Lethal Level Loader (Fixed)

[spare pier]

is this compatible with AC?

[vague crest]

I tried to force this version to be used instead of AC, it should work in theory, i have tested it fully yet

I'm still waiting for thunderstore to push my last update in r2

[prime mica]

should i enable this alongside the original lll?

[vague crest]

You can, it will override the original one

[prime mica]

oh nice

thanks

[wooden aspen]

using this spams dissonance spam in log and were unable to land ship

[glass heron]

I also already tried this mod, but only got a million errors

I wanted to post it, but at that time there was no thread yet

[wooden aspen]

it works singleplayer it seems but not multiplayer

[glass heron]

i try it with my modpack in single

[vague crest]

It seems that's an issue we already got in the past when playing with some friends, before i start my fork.

[astral agate]

"cause client to generate the wrong interior map." is this an actual issue with LLL?

i don't think this happens with LLL

[wooden aspen]

for some reason it doesn't happen with normal LLL but the falling through map bug is in LLL

really weird

[astral agate]

it only happens if you have LE with LLL. LE NOT LECore

correct me if i'm wrong

i'm not sure about the other issue where monitor desync happens tho. i think i've seen it happen before not sure

[vague crest]

Keep me updated, i'm interested

[vague crest]

For us the monitor issue/void issue was occuring only on LLL map, when the levelId was different between the host and the client, that what i fixed, by sorting planet by name so the id is the same for everyone when you have the same maps

[warm nest]

what does this fix

[glass heron]

I'm currently busy creating a large modpack, but recently I've slowed down a bit due to the release of Last epoch. I returned to work a couple of days ago, and today I saw your mod. I thought that it could serve as a solution to the LLL compatibility problem. But as a result, this led to very strange things: a lot of errors, crashes when trying to create a lobby, duplication of mod moons in the terminal. I thought that I installed your mod incorrectly (together with LLL), and then I tried to install it without LLL, which of course was a mistake. Now I’ll make a backup of the assembly, I’ll try to install a new version, if there are any errors I’ll post it here.
Sorry for Google translator

[steel vapor]

Will this also fix the desync of people seeing different interiors

[glass heron]

Now I’ll try again and share my experience, as well as a list of mods with which I conducted tests.

[vague crest]

Thanks for your feedback, send me your profile code when you are able to, i really would like to check on it

In fact, i changed almost nothing, it's why i'm curious about your results

[glass heron]

list of mods, sent as a text file so as not to spam the chat. In general, I’m very glad that someone took up LLL, they would also fix the sound bug associated with Advanced Company and Resonance. If I could, I would have done it myself, but unfortunately I don’t know how to modify it.

[vague crest]

Do you have a code so i can import it in one click

[glass heron]

I don’t quite understand what code you are talking about? Sorry for the stupid question

[vague crest]

Are you using R2Modman or ThunderStore Mod Manager ?

[glass heron]

first one

[vague crest]

Settings > Export profile as a code
Also there is no stupid question

[glass heron]

First problem: the weather is not displayed in the terminal, possibly due to a conflict with Weather-Tweaks or Terminal Api

I am using a standard LLL configuration

[hearty tusk]

Hello the mod is currently working on multiplayer? Thanks

[vague crest]

It may be not stable RN, i will push the 1.1.0 version when everything seems better

[hearty tusk]

Oh okay thanks!

[glass heron]

018e0a3f-f288-723b-59ed-6cc23a4467d5

[glass heron]

oh

it's for 1.10 LLL?

ok nvm, im actualy stupid...

[vague crest]

No no

The version doesn't matter on my side

i say it's unstable because of your report

[neon bough]

hmmm

[warm nest]

again, what does this fix?

[vague crest]

Please check the thunderstore page 🙂

[warm nest]

oh ok

does it break anything extra as a treat

[vague crest]

It may for now, i'm working on it

[glass heron]

I'm sorry, but I'll pause my tests for now. I'll play a little DMC 5 with a friend, but I'll definitely write later

[vague crest]

No problem, all good, i will make some tests with your modpack

[upper storm]

any chance u could also fix compatibility with permanent_moons 🥺

[glass heron]

There is currently no modpack available on Thunderstorm. But you can see remnants of my past works there

[vague crest]

The code is enough to import the profile on my side with every mods and config you currently have

[vague crest]

@glass heron For the weather part, Terminal API don't show the Weather and Weather-Tweaks either, LethalLevelLoader was, but since it was causing some problems i disabled it in the fork (until i fix that too), you can use terminal formatter instead : https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/TerminalFormatter/

For your mods, here are some things i actually noticed on my modpack :

• MoreScreams hasn't been updated since a while and can cause player to be unable to hear others after respawning
• Backrooms (Last updated 3 months ago) is "fun" but also cause a lot of desync issues as well
• Asteroid 18 have some issues with HDLethalCompany that make the map fully black when trying to enhance the graphic settings
• Advanced Company : i see some issues, maybe you should look into it
• FacilityMeltdown seems to have an issue too i see in logs

Also you have to make a decision on your AI mods, i see Diversity, PathfindingLagFix and StarlancerAIFix, i'm not sure that they are all compatible together

[upper storm]

they are all compatible

[vague crest]

Oh ok, Diversity seems to struggle a bit on his pack

[glass heron]

Thanks for the advice about the terminal.

1. MoreScreams is really outdated, and besides, it’s not that necessary, I’ll probably delete it.
2. Backrooms is also old, but brings quite a lot of fun to the game. There were no problems with it, just like with MoreScreams.
3. Asteroid-13 does become darker, but this does not affect the interior. There are other problems associated with this card that LLL causes when trying to load a modded interior (it would show an error, but there are no screenshots).
4. Advanced Company has a number of problems, especially with regard to the new sound api (I already wrote about this above).
5. Facility has been making me worry for a long time, maybe I should find a more stable version.
   Diversity also sometimes causes errors in the console, but they are not critical.

[glass heron]

By the way, when loading through the code, did you receive already changed configs, or standard ones?

[alpine fable]

if you dont mind me asking, wdym by new sound api?

[glass heron]

Now I’ll go test it with TerminalFormatter

[glass heron]

loaforcsSoundAPI v0.1.3 from loaforc
I'm talking about this:
https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues/130

[alpine fable]

ah that

[glass heron]

yep

[alpine fable]

yeah moreCompany and AdvancedCompany get a few errors with that one

[glass heron]

I know, but in the current state of SoundApi this does not cause anything critical, so I gave it up. Maybe it drops FPS a little, but no more

[alpine fable]

yeah it doesnt do anything really

[glass heron]

Terminal formatter really help. Thanks for the idea.

[vague crest]

You can type preview all and sort price

It will give you a very good ui

[glass heron]

So far I have not seen any errors related to LLL (Fixed). But this spam confuses me:

I don’t quite understand why this is happening, in general it doesn’t cause any problems, but it confuses me terribly

[glass heron]

thx again.

[solid stump]

Hey, if the weathers are not showing up in the terminal it's a LLL issue - i'm hooking up my mod to LLL's functions displaying weather and overwriting default terminal pages just to be sure.

and terminal formatter uses LLL as well, so it should resolve the issue 😅

[halcyon flicker]

For me and my friend we couldn't load in Maritopia when using this mod. Immiededly when he left the lobby the stage loaded in. Otherwise it's stuck on showing the seed for as long as someone else is in the lobby too. We didn't test other levels but changing back to the old LLL worked.
-I do not have the log because I didn't get any errors. I think the errors were on the client not the host side.
-We had the same exact configs and mods.

[vague crest]

I actually reproduced the error of infinite loading, i will investigate the issue

[upper storm]

@vague crest idk if u saw my msg sorry

[glass heron]

Thanks for the answer. But they already helped me solve the problem.

[solid stump]

no worries 😄

[still berry]

Are you doing any other fixes? Or just the duplicating of moons? I have a request for a bug fix😅

Also should I disable LLL or uninstall it while using the fixed version? Should really put what to do in the description or on the thunderstore page

[wooden aspen]

it disables LLL it seems

[still berry]

ty just saw that in the LLL chat

So does this just use the LLL config? because I'm not finding one for LLLFixed

[agile pasture]

It's the LLL config

[still berry]

ty

[paper cosmos]

so im trying to do custom scrap ive set everything except for what i want to 0 but still no custom scrap

[still berry]

Are you setting values for the custom scrap itself? The moon settings are overrides so if the custom scrap isn't in the list it won't show up

[paper cosmos]

Large axle:0,Metal sheet:0,Laser pointer:0,Bottles:0,Ring:0,Airhorn:0,Clown horn:0,Cash register:0,Gold bar:0,Toy cube:0,Toy robot:0,Magnifying glass:0,Tea kettle:0,Bell:0,Fancy lamp:0,Golden cup:0,Painting:0,Perfume bottle:0,Magic 7 ball:0,Gift:0,Comedy:0,Tragedy:0,Game Boy:30,Mario Glove:30,Marios Hat:30,Mario Painting:30,Marios Shoe:30,Marios Star:30,Poison Mushroom:30,Poltergust 3000:30,Train:0,Pinya:0,Retro PC:0,Computer Chip:0,Computer Fan:0,Gas Can:0,Metal Beam:0,CRT Monitor:0,Box Of Parts:0,Copper Wire Spool:0,Ball Bearing:0,Metal Disk:0,Small Motor:0,Stator:0,Air Compressor:0,Gear:0,Cog:0,Small Gear:0,Flathead Screw:0,Hex Screw:0,Panhead Screw:0,Floppy Disk:0,Big Wrench:0,Lost Employee Helmet:0,Lost Employee Tank:0,Aerial Dish:0,Old Missile:0,Diesel Generator:0,Oil Drum:0,Studio Camera:0,6 Pin Cable:0,Capacitor:0,Diode:0,Transistor:0,Magnet:0,Blue Tape:0,Tape Measure:0,Flip Phone:0,Control Panel:0,Car Battery:0,Piston:0,AC Unit:0,Alarm Clock:0,AA Battery:0,9V Battery:0,Polaroid Camera:0,Jet Engine:0,Lightbulb:0,Lighter:0,Neon Sign:0,Propane Tank:0,Traffic light:0,Vice:0,Arson Plush:0,Cookie Fumo:0,Toimari Plush:0,Hamis Plush:0,Dirty Arson Plush:0,Maxwell:0,Glizzy:0,Revolver:0,Gremlin Can:0,Toy Hammer:0,Gnarpy Plush:0,Harp:0,Army Helmet:0,Army Canteen:0,Gramophone:0,Old Radio:0,RockingHorse:0,TypeWriter:0,WheelRim:0,WireSpool:0,Pintoboy:0,Scavenger Plushie:0,Weezer Guitar:0,Cannabis Bag:0,Water Pipe:0,Cannabis Vape:0,Flip Lighter:0

custom scraps there everything except mario items have numbers,

trying to do a luigi's mansion themed map

[still berry]

I see that, is the normal scrap still spawning?

[paper cosmos]

yea

thats my issue

im still getting mario scrap but mostly regylar scrap

*regular

enemies i put in worked

just not scrap

[still berry]

Might be a problem with LLL then, @vague crest might be able to fix but that's all up to them

[glass heron]

You need a working LLL for this fix work

[still berry]

Yeah I got it figured out now, but thanks 🙂

[glass heron]

At the moment it is better not to use this fix if you play with friends with a lot of mods using LLL.
This can lead to endless loading, I think this problem will be fixed soon.

[vague crest]

Yeah, that's the only issue i noticed atm

[paper cosmos]

so dont use this for multiplayer?

i feel like random chance of inifinite load is better than falling through map

[glass heron]

If the problem is so critical, then of course it is better to use a fix. Otherwise, it's better to wait until the problem is fixed.

[glass heron]

What mods do you use?

[paper cosmos]

018e0bf0-3c30-9a20-c3bd-7a9ea478e100

scrap worked before swapping to fixed level loader

[vague crest]

I don't thinks there is "standard" actually for scrap loading, every seems to do what they want

[glass heron]

why you disabled LLL?

[neon bough]

so can’t use this in multiplayer rn?

[glass heron]

I don’t understand what the problem is, I downloaded your modpack. I launched it, everything works within normal limits (doesn’t crash), the loot is all in place, I don’t fall under the map.

But to be honest, the modpack is simply overloaded with mods with the same functionality.
Like: General Imp - IntroTweaks

[paper cosmos]

My only issue at the moment is custom scrap not spawning

I use general improvements and intro tweaks for different features, map problem only happened with og lethal level loader, disabled for fixed version until og is fixed

Fixed has addressed the issue of falling through map

[glass heron]

What kind of scrap are we talking about exactly? Any of the mods, or something specific that you personally added?
I just don't quite understand the problem.

[still berry]

You're supposed to have both fixed and normal LLL enabled

[vague crest]

I'm not sure about that tho

[still berry]

that might be why your custom settings arn't working. Fixed loads the configs through LLL

[still berry]

So should we not use this version for multiplayer because of the infinite loading? What causes it?

I also don't have all my moons on the terminal, think I'll just wait for batby's update and keep using LLL

[vague crest]

Some poeple report that it's working without issues, some are reporting this issue. Tbh, it's really hard to tell you right now, just test it, i thinks there are pros and cons about that until i figured out where the issue come from.

[vague crest]

Haven't heard of that, are you using any terminal formatter mod ?

custom moons catalogue or so

[still berry]

Yeah, ShowMoonPricesLLL. I'll try disabling it

[vague crest]

I suggest you to use TerminalFormatter instead

[paper cosmos]

so wait enable both? @vague crest

[vague crest]

I don't thinks so

[paper cosmos]

i didnt think so either

[shy tinsel]

This was the case for me, but using Terminal Formatter fixed it

[still berry]

If I disable LLL will it still input my settings from the LLL config?

[vague crest]

Yes, i didn't change this part of the code, the file path stay the same

[still berry]

Okay great thanks

[shy tinsel]

so should we disable LLL or no?

or is it not clear yet?

Also appreciate the work you did putting this together 👍🏻

[vague crest]

You can disable it, but i don't thinks having it enabled or not change anything since the modloader don't load 2 mods with the same name (which is the case in the metadata of the fixed mod) and mine have a more recent version anyway.

So it will load mine first and don't load the official one

[still berry]

@vague crest Did you change the config in any way? It keeps overwriting my LLL config whenever I start up a save

I keep fixing it from a backup, which is why I ask

[paper cosmos]

honestly i had best luck deleting og lll configs, letting fixed generate new ones and changed them all manually

[still berry]

Doing that now

[paper cosmos]

its a headache but ive been running smooth since

only issue im having is when i set specific scrap on a specific moon, it still spawns vanilla scrap

i.e ive got a luigis mansion map that i want only mario scrap to spawn so i changed everything to 0 except mario scrap, but im still getting default spawn rates

[still berry]

Infinite loading with multiple people when landing on Celest, gonna just get rid of the Fix for now

[vague crest]

Working on it, that will be the next update

[paper cosmos]

think this will be out today?

im gonna stream soon and im hoping not to run into to many issues

[vague crest]

Depending today for who actually x)

Today for me yes, it's 3am here

[paper cosmos]

currently 6pm pst here

holy your kicking ass at 3am we appreciate your service!!!

[crisp kite]

@vague crest What did you change with the Terminal

[vague crest]

Temporarily removed the hook, it was prevent the user to use the terminal (moons command wasn't working properly), i will set it back when i get it fixed too

[crisp kite]

What's wrong with it

[vague crest]

I will tell you, give me a sec

[vague crest]

Cannot reproduce the error i got last time, i though that was caused by my fix, i'm reverting that change

[spare pier]

?modder 2493248933

[gusty night]

what did you use to change everything to 0, this LLL?

Maybe if you still have the previous LLL config it might be overwriting it?

[paper cosmos]

cant land at all 😦 get stuck on seed loading

[paper cosmos]

already got rid of old configs

[gusty night]

did you manually disable old LLL too?

[paper cosmos]

yup

swapping back this is more broken than og sadly

[gusty night]

did you do those things at the same time?

because if you deleted config first, started up a game, and then later on disabled LLL, you might still have a LLL config present that might have gotten generated somehow

[paper cosmos]

i disabled, then deleted config, then installed new one, let that gen configs, then edited

[paper cosmos]

@vague crest any luck with landing fix?

im testing a temp fix right now, getting lll fixed to build configs then get old one to read them

[mental quarry]

The question is is it a bug with all versions of fixed or just the current release?

[paper cosmos]

new issue lll fixed isnt reading most of my modded moons

[still berry]

A couple people said to use terminal formatter, how do I get it to show prices like on the thunderstore page

[paper cosmos]

with fixed?

[still berry]

At all

[mental quarry]

It works fine for me

Check other mods you might have that touch the terminal

Could be a conflict

[paper cosmos]

still cant use fixed if i cant land sadly 😦

so back to square one people falling through the ground 😦

[mental quarry]

I'm sure it'll be fixed later

Refract is aware of it

[still berry]

For us the game was working on vanilla maps, modded maps for a quota or so. Using normal LLL

[still berry]

He said he was working on a fix up above

[mental quarry]

mhm

I was letting biggie know though

It'll be fixed later

[paper cosmos]

anyway to stop double configs in og lll

[mental quarry]

patience is a virtue

[mental quarry]

Did you try downgrading fixed

[still berry]

Not really. Vanilla moons don't dupe for me

[paper cosmos]

have not, what was the last stable version?

[mental quarry]

Idk I was just gonna say

[wooden aspen]

Well deleting ur config before starting the game everytime makes it work but thats kinda tedious

[mental quarry]

try downgrading a version number and see if it fixes the landing issue

[wooden aspen]

It fixes most desyncs like ur friends falling through the map

[paper cosmos]

will it only dupe on second start up

or will it dupe during my run?

like in theory as long as i run the same lobby until were done playing there should be no dupe?

[still berry]

It happened to my group tonight after a quota or 2

[paper cosmos]

then when it happens in theory i could reset delete configs and start back same lobby?

itlls suck but its a very temp fix if that works

[still berry]

That's what we did

[still berry]

I made a profile with just one modded moon and Terminal Formatter and it still doesn't show prices next to the moon :/

[mental quarry]

Idk

It works for me

🤷‍♀️

[limber blade]

when using this with a friend, the map we try landing on never loads, we just stuck on the map seed

[mental quarry]

Known issue

[wooden aspen]

It dupes when u leave the game and start a new one and when u start after deletingnur confif it will get fixed temporarily for one session

[wooden aspen]

Yes

[mental quarry]

Try reverting LLLFixed to a previous version or disabling it for now

[wooden aspen]

Yes

[still berry]

Does it show price and weather? Because I can only have one or the other

[mental quarry]

It does it all for me

Something in your list isn't working properly

Or is conflicting

[still berry]

Do I need to put "All" in my LLL config?

[mental quarry]

Idk

I never touch the config

[wooden aspen]

Also @paper cosmos EVERYONE has to do it which is kinda of a bummer since some of my friends are kinda lazy and leave all the work on me lol

[still berry]

This fixed my issue if anyone else has this issue. Noticed it said "Preview: All" in the screenshot on the thunderstore

[wooden aspen]

Issue of infinite load?

[still berry]

Sorry I was talking about TerminalFormatter, since ShowPriceLLL doesn't work with LLLFixed. Sadly no patch yet

[wooden aspen]

Ahhhh damn

[paper cosmos]

mine to so this isnt a fix 😦

[wooden aspen]

It is but very tedious lol

[still berry]

I made a backup of my config with no dupes so everyone just uses my thunderstore code and I replace the config manually

[paper cosmos]

got the terminal mod u mentioned and that fixed the moons that dont show up

so far previous version of lllfixed doesnt have landing issues solo, will be trying multiplayer soon

[still berry]

That was the advice given to me haha

[sage vault]

i only had infinite seed in multiplayer, solo had no issues

[paper cosmos]

when i change moon price via lll fixed they all disapear from terminal

[proper crypt]

should i replace LLL with the fixed ver?

[paper cosmos]

jourey is out on that one they both have different issues

[proper crypt]

and i am wondering if it allows the moons interactives (like wesley's moons with lights and whatnot) server sided instead of just client?

[paper cosmos]

normal causes desync and falling through map, fixed has infinite seed load

[proper crypt]

oh then yea

i assume it desyncs with latecompany to begin with or anything else like it?

or atleast that the cause of desyncs

[paper cosmos]

lll is the current issue batby knows about it but is waiting for "redacted" to remove lll code from "redacted" before an update

will an earlier version of lll fix the issue of desync by chance?

[vague crest]

Oh f i found

Just me being stupid i guess

[mental quarry]

You fixed the multiplayer bug?

🙂

[mental quarry]

We all make mistakes lol, it's the curse of being a mod dev

[vague crest]

I found where the issue come from, will fix and push the update

[mental quarry]

Ayyyy 😄

[paper cosmos]

ooooooooo for real?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!\

[crisp kite]

Mhm?

[vague crest]

For some reasons, the netcode-patch don't patch anything, so there is no rpc between server and client

[mental quarry]

☠️

[crisp kite]

..

Do you have the post build event

[vague crest]

I still don't understand why it's not patching tho

yea

[crisp kite]

ask lordfirespeed in dev-general

[vague crest]

Ok

[paper cosmos]

no luck yet?

[vague crest]

A bit busy at my work atm, will do this after

[paper cosmos]

take all the time u need was just curious

[warm nest]

has the infinite loading been fixed?

[paper cosmos]

refract is at work will fix l8r they said

[warm nest]

k

[glass heron]

Can anyone help me fix this?
[not related to LLL(FIX)]
This LLL error occurs when trying to load a mod's interior onto Wesleys planets

This is an infinite loading problem.
[not related to LLL(FIX)]

[agile pasture]

Which moon

[glass heron]

Polarus, Asteroid-13

I think it's Backrooms that conflicts

[agile pasture]

Asteroid 13, I got it and no problem, but ye, I removed backroom

[vague crest]

@glass heron @paper cosmos @mental quarry I'm currently pushing the update that fix the issue with the infinite landing v1.1.0

[wooden aspen]

Fire

[vague crest]

Forgot you lol

[wooden aspen]

😭

[glass heron]

Cool, I just finished fixing and improving the modpack, I'll try it out with my friends later.

Thanks again for the advice.

Maybe after your fix I can return Backrooms, idk

[wooden aspen]

@vague crest one question should i use this with or without LLL

[vague crest]

.

[reef dragon]

interesting

[vague crest]

It also overwrite the AC one, since i set a even higher version, AC have 1.999, i have 2.0 lol

But i don't know if that break AC but f AC

[agile pasture]

I think AC 1.1.3 and below are fine with LLL, if anyone wants AC

[alpine fable]

https://tenor.com/view/what-about-me-anime-what-about-me-kubo-kubo-what-about-me-kubo-san-what-about-me-what-about-me-kubo-san-gif-9068279163636222819

[vague crest]

❤️

[glass heron]

After your update, the cursor in the main menu starts behaving strangely
@vague crest

[vague crest]

Don't thinks that my fault 🤔

Don't have that issue

[wooden aspen]

neither do i

bro has the same cursor as me

wait?

is that lcs cursor

cuz thats literary my normal pc cursor

maybe i never noticed cuz of that

[glass heron]

I'll write after we play with friends. But all I did was update your mod

[vague crest]

Okok, thanks 🙂

[glass heron]

I'm just too old for small cursors. That's why I always use this one.

I'll test it with an older version of the mod and post a video, but a little later

[ebon geode]

Playing solo with the new update, got stuck in the infinite loading when trying to land on a modded moon (Triskellion). I'm not sure if this is LLLFixed or another mod but thought it would be worth mentioning just incase. I also have no interior mods

[vague crest]

It's consistent or just random ?

[opaque steeple]

You can run this with regular LLL now, right?

[mental quarry]

Yeah it disables normal LLL on startup

[ebon geode]

At first it seemed like it was only happening when the map was eclipsed, but it just happened again when it was clear so it seems like it's random. I havent tried with other moons yet tho

Can confirm it's random. It also happened on a vanilla moon as well (titan).

[neon bough]

@vague crest multiplayer still being worked on?

[vague crest]

It's supposed to be fixed

[neon bough]

Oh in 1.1.0?

[vague crest]

Ye

[neon bough]

Ah gotcha just didn’t see that in the change log but thank you

[agile pasture]

Anyone, is the new update fix working

[sonic dome]

it work

[agile pasture]

Nice, tnx m8

[glass heron]

Played with friends. There were no problems with LLL, no errors, and no problems with endless loading.

I'll check the cursor now (I forgot to ask my friends)

[neon bough]

No desync?

W

[glass heron]

everything worked great

[agile pasture]

It's time to cook some modpaks

[glass heron]

Yes, but there is still a lot to come. Fixing LLL alone is not enough.

[quasi herald]

I've had one issue where LC_Office layout generated on the client, and the host had the Dantors Mental Hospital with the 1.1.0 fixed version

[glass heron]

This was my personal problem. So great update, thanks for your effort. 👍

[quasi herald]

I've disabled LC_Office and the issue stopped occuring

[vague crest]

Send me the log

host + client

[quasi herald]

I have more interiors but it was the only one that glitched out.

I can't rn I'm gonna try grabbing it later

[mental quarry]

LC_Office is buggy though so that might not necesarrily be an issue on LLL's end

[glass heron]

Office itself is a very unstable mod.

[quasi herald]

Yeah I keep trying to enable every once in a while, as one of my friends really liked it, but it keeps causing issues

[mental quarry]

Piggy's mods in general seem to be in a perpetual buggy state unfortunately 😔

[glass heron]

I highly recommend not using Office. Only if you don't really like him, otherwise the trouble isn't worth it

[quasi herald]

But as I said other layouts didn't cause any issues yet

[mental quarry]

Yeah so it was probably a bug with Office then

and not LLL

[glass heron]

I like it too, but stability is more important.

It would be possible to go through all versions of Office, finding the most stable one, but this will take time

[pulsar cedar]

I've been playing with LLL (1.1.4) a lot recently and for some reason everyone is sync correctly but only one player (always the same one) fall oow randomly on some map when entering the interior... I'm trying to figure out how that player setup could be any different 🙂 I'll let you know if anything pop. The only obvious difference for now is that he's using a controller instead of Keyboard but I don't believe it has anything to do with the problem

for reference I played about 15-20 hours with about 12 different players on modded map and interiors and only that 1 player ever got the desync ^^

[vague crest]

LLL or LLLFixed ?

Can be confusing, this thread is for the fixed version

Specially for this bug

[pulsar cedar]

Tested on LLL but isn't the point of LLLFixed to figure out what cause the issue in the first place? From reading I understood that the problem was Maybe fix in LLLFixed but no one know the source for certain

[vague crest]

LLL is open source, so yeah we know the source 🙂

[pulsar cedar]

what caused the falling oow? I would love to let my user know to prevent them from ruinning their game experience

[shy tinsel]

This is my first time hearing specific interiors might be leading to desync, can anyone corroborate this? If so, what interiors are currently "stable?" Also I imagine @regal quarry would want to know if desyncs are able to be isolated to LC_Office.

[regal quarry]

dungeon generation issue is not a problem with my mod.
interior mods only registers dungeons, and the code for dungeon generation is entirely in LLL.

even the dungeon registration code uses the same code as Dantor's Mental hospital

[pulsar cedar]

I would love to test LLL fixed more to make sure it solve the desync 🙂 so far It seem great! But I'm pretty sure you branch out of 1.1.6.. and 1.1.6 have some bug with Lethal Quantities that I've been using to completely re balance the game :/ and since the issue is not 100% at all (more like 5% occurrence in my case) if we figured out the root of the Desync I could tell my 1 user to fix it locally if possible 🙂 and I'm sure I'm not the only one in this situation 😛

[quiet ferry]

What are the bugs with LQ ?

[pulsar cedar]

Some setting Stay vanilla. For Example you can test setting price on each map in the general config. Notice they don't match in game with the new price

That's 1.1.4 with LQ VS LLL Fixed with LQ

[leaden violet]

Do you used AdvancedCompany?

[pulsar cedar]

Tried deleting the config and re entering manually the price in new LQ config and same thing

[pulsar cedar]

Nope

[leaden violet]

Hmm

[pulsar cedar]

so I've been avoiding upgrading until it's fix

[leaden violet]

I haven’t used LQ, but if you can customize moon prices with it, try “changing” the price to the same number

[quiet ferry]

my prices do work with LLL1.1.6 and LQ pre WEBUI version

[pulsar cedar]

let me re test 1.1.6 quickly 🙂

same price as LLLfixed let me redo all config again too

[quiet ferry]

In your config for exemple infernis is at 600?

[pulsar cedar]

yup

[quiet ferry]

it's possible you have 2 infernis in the config

happened to me before

[pulsar cedar]

If that's the case deleting the config and re entering the prices manually should fix it 🙂

[quiet ferry]

yes

[pulsar cedar]

Deleted all config -> launched the game to make new file -> edited LLL to display All next to Moons and sort by Price -> set all planet price to 42 with Global LQ price

[quiet ferry]

wierd

so it doesn't work on moded moons

[pulsar cedar]

nope here's my LLL config that's the only thing I change

[quiet ferry]

I mean if you put 42 on every moon, infernis should be at 42 but it's at 0 no ?

my infernis was at 0 i'll try putting it a 42

works for me

some other mod conflicting maybe ?

[agile pasture]

what does that do, I kinda don't get it

[paper cosmos]

keeps away the desync

[ebon geode]

Does this mod also fix the weather desyncs?

[agile pasture]

So I leave it on true

[crisp kite]

That config option is somewhat hard to explain, apologies

basically each level asks for specific vanilla dungeons and for those dungeons, by default they skip the dungeon matching system LLL uses and goes straight into the possible dungeons that could be used

disabling this in theory gives you the option to not have dungeons like the facility, mansion have a chance on vanilla levels but that also opens the possibly of having no valid dungeon be possible to select for a moon

true is intended behaviour

[agile pasture]

Thank you brother, I'll leave it this way

[vague crest]

I didn't answered that question i wasn't here, the interior desync was caused by the fact that interiors and moons wasn't sorted when loaded, which means that poeple with the same moons list and interior list didn't always had the same id on every run and for every client (that was also partially causing a configuration duplication on every game load if the order was changing for some reason), i fixed that by sorting map before loading them into the game. (really small thing to fix), i also did some config handling modifications.

I still think that i need to do some more tweaks on the config handling, since poeple report that it reset configuration when loading, if i'm correct.

Also it's only partially fixing the desync, i thinks that there are more problems that may or may not come from LLL

[still berry]

Any chance you could fix the issue where Celestria gets all of Celest's settings (modded maps). I assume it's caused by how LLL parses map names in the config

[crisp kite]

In theory that should be the only thing that causes desync from what I know. Only other thing I can think of is if somehow the dungeon wasn't getting registered on one client but was on the host? But I might start passing in the dungeonflow in a less assumptive way than array index in the future.

[vague crest]

Also it would be great to add some safeguard in the future to double check that every connecting client have the same identical Level/DungeonFlow list as the host, and maybe sync them if applicable, a bit like when prefab are not the same on client and host

[crisp kite]

can't sync them

#1194412635932856440 has made great progress though

[vague crest]

It looks great actually, but i wonder if that's enough

[vague crest]

I would be curious to check the issue, can you send me your modlist code by pm (or here if you want)

[paper cosmos]

so it works fine if i dont change configs but i changed my moon prices all to random numbers just to test if it works and now the "moons" command wont work in the terminal

[pulsar cedar]

018e11d7-3be7-6e30-76b3-3bd669c556e0 here's my working profil 🙂 If you update all mod or change to LLLFixed you should encounter the issue

[paper cosmos]

best mod to change moon prices?
that works with lll, currently lll isnt letting me chnage moon prices

@vague crest also is it best to turn off og lll or just leave both on, or does it just not matter

[scarlet python]

the version string of fixed is higher so it will automatically override default LLL. no difference

[mental quarry]

Btw @vague crest is it possible you can fix the eject command not working with LLL? or did you already fix that in LLLFixed? I haven't tested if it works or not with your fixed version but I know it doesn't work with normal LLL installed

[ebon geode]

@vague crest are you able to fix the weather desync issues? Ik the WeatherTweaks mod fixes it but it would be nice if this mod also addresses that since it's been a bug that ppl have been experiencing for a while

[vague crest]

I suppose that it still not work, i didn't touched that

[vague crest]

Are you sure this is a LLL issue ?

I double checked to be sure but LLL don't touch to weather

[still berry]

I had weather desync in multiplayer whenever other players fell through the map. Haven't gotten to use the fix with others yet

[alpine fable]

Weirdly enough I think it is

[still berry]

Whenever there was an interior desync, there would be a weather desync most of the time too. At least in my experience

[alpine fable]

It's probably thr result of another desync yeah^

[vague crest]

From what i can see from zeekers code it can come from multiple things :

• Seed beeing differents between host/client
• Level list having a different size between host/client
• Level list not be in the same order host/client

Funny thing, i didn't know, surviving more than 2 days in a row will cause weather to be more intense and recurrent every 3 days.

I solved the third one tho, so it may help for sure

[still berry]

Was gonna say wasn't this the primary cause of the interior desync? The weather desync should be way less common now (as long as everyone is using the same thunderstore code)

[vague crest]

yup

[still berry]

I don't know if I've ever seen us having different seeds. Wouldn't that make the whole interior have differing layouts? Like everyone having facility but the rooms would be all different

[vague crest]

Yeah i don't thinks it's possible without noticing indeed

[still berry]

Hopefully weather desync is fixed then. I'll be sure to report anything here if my group runs across it

[vague crest]

And don't forget to get everyone's log, it help a lot actually

[still berry]

I'll be sure to try. Some of my buddies wives are a bit technologically challenged🫠 but I'll be sure to get most of them

[vague crest]

There is a magical button i discovered recently in r2 :

You just have to click this and paste in discord

[still berry]

Just found that XD I also didn't know it existed

Just searched the settings when you told me to get the logs LOL

[crisp kite]

I probably need to manually roll the weather again after loading custom content

[still berry]

Out of curiosity, how does this survival 3 days in a row mechanic work in multiplayer? This is the first I'm hearing about it. Does 1 player surviving 3 days in a row trigger it?

[crisp kite]

I think it might be rolling weather at an inconsistent point in the loading process

[crisp kite]

Iirc its 3 days 0 player deaths

[still berry]

I never had the issue without some other desync occurring but your idea is definitely a better overall fix for it

[vague crest]

I see your point and thinks it can help, but you are only loading once right ? So it will resolve only for the first day, but i thinks it can help yeah

[covert tiger]

Weather desync still happens for me but it only happens on the first day when I open up the lobby. Then it fixes itself permanently until I restart the lobby

[vague crest]

So it may help yeah

[sick knot]

does this fix the modded enemies unable to spawn on modded moons issue?

[still berry]

What issues are you having with them spawning? I've had modded enemies spawn on modded moons

A mod in particular?

[sick knot]

Anything using vanilla spawn logic just not spawning

[still berry]

You got an example? Also are you sure the spawn weights aren't set low and you just haven't seen one?

[sick knot]

no, im pretty sure the configs are just not populated with enemies from what i've gathered

or something like that

no examples cause its literally just not spawning on any moon

[still berry]

My group has played with office for about 6-8 hours and only have seen shrimp once. But the default weight is 5 so it makes a bit of sense

[sick knot]

on a vanilla moon?

#1193461151636398080 message

[still berry]

The LLL configs for moons are overrides. If you don't have the enable customizations set to true it'll just use whatever defaults the mod that has the enemy uses

[sick knot]

interesting

let me double check

so i have these turned off and i have not seen a single modded enemy spawn (except the ones that dont use the vanilla spawn system)

[still berry]

Might be a bug then

What exact modded enemy are you looking for?

I've seen shrimp from lcoffice, roomba from lethalthings, and rats from moreinteriors bunker all spawn on modded maps. It could be an issue with the mod that adds the enemy

[opaque steeple]

Only modded enemies that spawn on custom moons by default are ones with custom spawn logic like Peepers.

Walker from Diversity for example won't spawn on modded moons by default.

Same thing with modded scrap.

[soft bloom]

Is it possible to use this instead of the version in Advanced Company? The moons list not being consistent is causing a lot of moon desyncs.

[opaque steeple]

Yes.

[soft bloom]

Does just installing it override that one? Or do I need to configure it somehow?

[opaque steeple]

Just installing.

[soft bloom]

Okay, I'll try it out

Thanks

[sour prawn]

Well, despite having this mod installed i still got pretty much all the issues during my session last night .

• weather desync
• we had a problem where someone saw a different interior
• And idk if this is related but a moon used an interior that wasnt assigned to it via LLL (Bozorus)
• oh yeah and one of the moons wouldnt load in at all (Asteroid13)

I have the mod installed is there somn i missed along the way that's supposed to apply the fixes? at least the fix where the config doesnt duplicate things is fixed...

[mental quarry]

Weather Desync issue can be fixed with WeatherTweaks, and the fixed version of LLL fixes the weights not being applied properly with WeatherTweaks as well

[sour prawn]

well, that hopefully at least fixes that

[glass heron]

I played yesterday and didn't encounter any of these errors.

Do you have backrooms mod ?

[sour prawn]

well, nice for you ig-

and no i dont have it

i've been meaning to just rebuild my modpack from scratch so im just doin that rn

[glass heron]

I just encountered problems with loading Asteroid-13 and Polarus from Wesley. But deleting Backrooms fixed everything.

[sour prawn]

well, that'd probably fix that if i had the backrooms to begin with but

cause i was able to load into it fine 20 minutes ago so idk.

I think the one thing that did annoy me the most, and i dont even know if its even the fault of anything, is that i had used lll to set certain interiors and upon entering bozorus i got an interior i didnt set twice

spent a whole day for nothing basically

[glass heron]

It would be easier if you showed the logs

[sour prawn]

tho it worked for other moons so idk

[sour prawn]

i mean true but like. im just gonna focus in rebuilding my pack and if somn happens i'll pull em up then

[glass heron]

Spent a whole day for nothing? Basic...
Somehow, after a whole day of setting up configs, I simply forgot to save.

[sour prawn]

oh i did that too lmaooo

i thankfully had a document of all the interiors and chances open tho

rip for you tho dude

[glass heron]

I set Late_Upgades for 4 hours at night, and then forgot to save, just because I was sleepy

[sour prawn]

eepy mistakes

anyways speaking of eepy mistakes

found out why bozoros didnt use any interiors i assigned.

Turns out.

its not spelled bozorus

and somehow

[glass heron]

:DDD

[sour prawn]

i made that mistake 3 times

[wooden aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[glass heron]

why you don't use simulate LLL ?

[sour prawn]

SO TRUE

also idk what that is

[glass heron]

I have a whole table for testing chance spawn interiors in my moons:

“simulate Experimentation”
“simulate Assurance”
“simulate Vow”
“simulate Offense”
“simulate March”
“simulate Asteroid-13”
“simulate Atlantica”
“simulate Infernis”
“simulate Gratar”
“simulate Rend”
“simulate Acidir”
“simulate Dine”
“simulate Polarus”
“simulate Titan”
“simulate Etern”
“simulate Cosmocos"

You need to write in the terminal "simutate (moon name)"

[sour prawn]

ohhhhhh

[glass heron]

yep

[sour prawn]

yeah i saw this actually and completely forgot

[glass heron]

eepy mistakes

[sour prawn]

probably

probably would have been useful

last night when i was kn the verge of blowing myself up

cause you can only put up with so much after watching your friend sink into dirt and another friend think they're in a hospital while everyone else was in a castle

[glass heron]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-crying-anime-gif-9027702

[sour prawn]

good gif representing The Pain ™️

[glass heron]

Honestly, I've already read so many complaints about this..

But I’ve never encountered it myself... Maybe I’m a genius, or just lucky

[sour prawn]

yeaaa

the second one only really happens if someone disconnects mid match

the first one ig can be fixed with weather tweaks so ive heard

so they're pretty avoidable i think

the problem with asteroid 13 fucking up i have no idea where to even begin for that but

[glass heron]

Is it true. It's in the mod description

[sour prawn]

are you askin me is it true or did you mean it is true

[glass heron]

I know, I wrote about this myself yesterday. Now I saw another guy doing the same thing.

[glass heron]

I approve
sorry for miss understand

[sour prawn]

you're good

anyways new question. how do i get rid of the facility having a chance to spawn on moons, do i just have to do math to make all the percentages leave facility with no chance to spawn

cause i made a list specifically for the facility yet it applies itself to other moons outside of that list

same for the haunted mansion

for example i dont have titan on the facility's list so im just confused

[warm nest]

the facility is the base game interior, you can't remove it

[sour prawn]

shite

[paper cosmos]

You can however lower the chances of it spawning by upping your other interiors

In theory, will this mod take precedent over ac lll

[wooden aspen]

the creator seemed a bit unsure but he said it will

[paper cosmos]

Intriguing off to test

[gusty night]

Just use AC 1.3! I feel like it’s simpler

[mental quarry]

Stop recommending AC.

Keep seeing you talk about it in nearly every thread, a lot of people don't wanna talk about it or use it due to the recent drama

[gusty night]

I’m not recommending it, they were the ones talking about it

[covert tiger]

People can talk about whatever they want lol. There's more people than not who don't even know about the drama

[mental quarry]

This is true, but Batby really doesn't like talk of AC nor does the dev of this mod

I feel it's better to be respectful of their wishes

[gusty night]

They were talking about whether AC LLL would take precedence or not, I just said it’s best not to think about it at all
If anything I feel like I’m telling people NOT to use the latest version

[mental quarry]

Ahhhh okay okay I gotchu I gotchu I just misunderstood I apologize

[gusty night]

❤️thnx

[mental quarry]

The fixed version of LLL will disable AC's implementation though if paired with it, and fixes issues that the half baked AC implementation does not, but if you use AC I would use 1.1.1 and no later than that

1.1.3 was released during the drama and added some code that people were not too fond of, and 1.1.2 causes network lag

1.1.1 was the last real stable release before all the drama

[gusty night]

Actually (not that I want to talk about it more) but what code exactly are you talking about in 1.1.3…
Just because that’s what I’ve been using and I’ve been using it under the assumption that 1.1.3 just fixed the issues of the previous version and that’s it

[mental quarry]

The code that was added that would force quit the game if you paired it with WatermarkRemover

[quasi herald]

I've tried reproducing the bug today to get the logs, but it stopped happening. I'm gonna play with my group tonight with everything enabled and we're gonna see if it happens again. If it doesn't I think it's pretty safe to assume it was just a config mismatch or something

[vague crest]

You tried in multiplayer ?

[quasi herald]

Yeah I grabbed a friend of mine to test it out for 30 minutes and nothing happened

I'm gonna have a longer session later on today and we'll see if it happens again or if it was just a one off issue

[spare pier]

currently

whats the sit with AC?

is it compatible

[spare pier]

nvm

just saw this lol

major W

dont wannna use AC's crappy stolen version of LLL

[agile pasture]

1.1.3 is the latest kinda ok, if you don't want to risk

[stable socket]

do i need to uninstall the original while using this?

is this fix for general LLL? or because of that AC LLL?

[opaque steeple]

No.

[stable socket]

so i just disable the normal LLL?

or i can leave them together?

[covert tiger]

It doesn't make a difference

[stable socket]

i see

i can leave them both

[bitter topaz]

does this work with lethalexpansioncore?

[wooden aspen]

from my exprience yes

[bitter topaz]

ok thaaaanks, this looks like it (might) fix the issues ive had maybe?

[wooden aspen]

what type of issues?

[bitter topaz]

game wouldnt load moons and freeeze on the seed pop up

[wooden aspen]

also batby said it was a false guess that LE or LECore conflicts with LLL

[wooden aspen]

thats been fixed

wait with LLLFixed or normal LLL

[bitter topaz]

normal level loader

i just learned about this lol

[wooden aspen]

ive seen a dude say it was because of csync and mods not being pdated to v2.0

i got a similar issue fixed it by reading the log

[bitter topaz]

um normal lethal expansion does conflict tho?

[wooden aspen]

well normal LE is useless since LECore disables it

kinda just bloat

which is why i dont have it

[bitter topaz]

no i mean lethal expansion doesnt work at all

if you dont use lethal core*

so that it actually does stuff

modded moons wont appear on terminal.

[bitter topaz]

our config files should be synced, we use the codes.

[wooden aspen]

to support 2.0 of csync btw

[bitter topaz]

could you explain that in a way that it is understandable to someone who is new to lethal company modding but has random bits of knowledge

basically, i did not understand that lol

[prime mica]

can i ask a question?

should i enable both lll and lllfixed or just the lllfixed?

[wooden aspen]

so look 2.0 of csync changed a lot of stuff csync basically syncs the configs of mod (devs have to add support for it in their mods) and the 2.0 update will cause glitches if they dont update their code

[wooden aspen]

it wont matter LLLFixed disables LLL

[opaque steeple]

CSync is a mod. A library for mod developers to make configs sync from host.

[wooden aspen]

i just disable it less loading time for game

[prime mica]

aight thanks

[bitter topaz]

ooooo ok, so uh just update my mods and double check if things are synced

[wooden aspen]

i think most are updated and thats only one cause the other is an incompatability is there

[bitter topaz]

uh ok you lost me there. which mods lol, i understand what you meant but not which mods

[wooden aspen]

i mean a log will help

[bitter topaz]

ok

[wooden aspen]

for me itwas lethalquantities but they fixed that in v1.2.6

[bitter topaz]

welp im on a bus to school rn so i cant get that lul.

[wooden aspen]

ah kk lol

[bitter topaz]

just trying to find some potential fixes as soon as possible lol (also i have nothing better to do).

[mortal pendant]

i kinda forgot, can someone run me down through what this fixes and what this breaks plz

[opaque steeple]

Changelog has answers.

[mortal pendant]

......and what does it break?

[quiet ferry]

It breaks things ? 😮

[mortal pendant]

yeah iirc with language patches and stuff

and other stuff that i forgot about

[quiet ferry]

i would like to know too

[scarlet python]

haven't heard of this breaking anything

[fickle mirage]

A strange quirk I just ran into, with the USC Vortex moon. Typing USC does a simulate instead of routing for some reason

typing "route usc" causes an in-game command error. "vortex" and "route vortex" work. Here's my profile code if needed, but it's a massive pack, so maybe check the moon by itself first
018e1a7b-ae3c-aeb0-5f41-5fcce962dda2

[crisp kite]

This is prob just a basegame issue tbh

[opaque steeple]

Maybe try TerminalConflictFix?

[bitter topaz]

i dont even have csync looking on my mod list (makes since why i wasnt familiar with it lol)

[wooden aspen]

idk ig try sending a log

[bitter topaz]

of the glitch i was having? im pretty sure it only happens occasionally in multiplayer

[scarlet python]

WeatherTweaks will handle weather desyncs if you're looking for a solution now

[sage kayak]

is it posible to put moon prices yet ?

[spare pier]

btw does this break AC?

[sage bronze]

works fine for me

[leaden violet]

afaik it just runs this LLL instead of the AC fork— you should have no issues.

[astral agate]

does this actually work? i just tried it instead of LLL and all of my LLL moons don't appear and also Celestial_Tint wasn't working

which is weird because it works with normal LLL

or is there an issue currently when both LLL and LLLFixed are enabled together?

[mortal pendant]

LLLFixed disables LLL when loader

[still berry]

Use TerminalFormatter to fix the issue with the moons list, Celestial tint not working is likely a config issue with ship windows

[somber bridge]

I use LLLFixed and Celestial Tint works for me

[astral agate]

idk man maybe the game just didn't load well that time

[opaque steeple]

Use both LLL and LLLFixed at the same time.

[mortal pendant]

no dont, that's useless and will eat up more resources for nothing.

[opaque steeple]

It won't because LLLF disables LLL.

[mortal pendant]

it will because LLL still has to load.

[opaque steeple]

It's just easier to use both because LLL is a dpendency for everything anyway.

[mortal pendant]

even if LLL is disabled, it is still loaded in, which uses resources

even if not much

[opaque steeple]

[Warning: BepInEx] Skipping [LethalLevelLoader 1.1.0.6] because a newer version exists (LethalLevelLoader 2.0.0.1)

So no, using both is safe and won't use extra recourses.

[still monolith]

got this exception

[fickle mirage]

which map? Looks similar to the errors I saw with Luigis Mansion Moon, BigBoo's Haunt Moon, and Vulcan9. It's some conflict with LethalExpansionCore on those moons specifically

[still monolith]

Vanilla map, Titan

[fickle mirage]

Ah, no idea then

[still monolith]

Hm, I'm thinking this is because of SCP dungeon, but I cannot confirm, because no logs about what type of dungeon is currently generating

[mortal pendant]

can't go back to a save after quitting it while in-game

[feral thorn]

Does this mod fix interiors not being the same for players?

[still berry]

Yes

[agile pasture]

yes, here too, i think it's ok when you wait the autosave screen and then quit

[mortal pendant]

yes but the thing is i dont want the game to save wnv i do this.

else i wouldnt be doing this.

[sour prawn]

im having a new issue now where like, cause lll fixed doesnt let the config update i deleted the lll config so it'd make a new one

its not making a new one. i uninstalled lll fixed and tried, still didnt make one.

i installed a new moon if ya wondering why i needed to update the config

hold on i forgot to try one more thing rq

okay so fully uninstalling lll and then booting the game up did recreate the log but thats not exactly ideal...

dunno if this is just a me thing, probably is cause no one else is mentioned it but if it happens again i'll probably bring it up

[still berry]

Are you loading a save when you start your game? That's when LLL makes the config

[sour prawn]

ah

that's probably the issue considering the game kept crashing for a while for some reason (fixed it but)

good to know thank you

[sour prawn]

new issue got the same log they did but on fission

seems like quiting then going back to the save and going to the same moon fucks it up

[agile pasture]

yes , you have to always pick another moon and then pick again the same, if you just get in game and a moon is selected, and you just pull the lever, say bye to the save

[faint salmon]

well i reproduce that

and it stuck on random seed...

but quit the game and get in then change moons, things return normal.

[supple fulcrum]

Hey so I downloaded this to use, and deleted the old LLL config to let it regenerate, but it appears a new one isn't being created? Not sure why it wouldn't be

[shy tinsel]

I can safely say at least for my modpack that LLLFixed (paired with WeatherTweaks) has resolved all of the desync and takeoff/landing hang issues my friends and I have been having for the past month. Thank you for all your work on this @vague crest @crisp kite !!

[feral thorn]

I was playing with 5 of my friends and only one of us was having issues seeing the same map interior as the rest of us. I'm not sure how to resolve her issues for the next time we play.

[paper cosmos]

add lethal quantaties, use that for interior, monster and scrap spawn, turn lll configs, lll will load your moons, lq will help keep interior choice stable across the board

[paper cosmos]

above comment

[wooden aspen]

Lq is the goat

[agile pasture]

If I use the interior configs and put some maps in with 99999 chance the interior to spawn on them, is this going to fix this issue too

[astral agate]

with LLL

with LLLFixed

🤷‍♂️

[crisp kite]

found some stuff ill let sfdesat know about

[wooden aspen]

use them both at the same time

[astral agate]

that's what i did

[wooden aspen]

oh

[astral agate]

idk why but LLLFixed doesn't work well with me

[paper cosmos]

ive got og lll disabled works better for me

[astral agate]

aight i'll see

[paper cosmos]

and u deleted og lll double configs?

[astral agate]

there is double config?

[paper cosmos]

Click it and look at your list

Lll creates double configs that why fixed exists

bozoros is on my list twice thats caused by lll

which causes desync

all modded moons got doubled

(thats an old mod pack)

@astral agate

[astral agate]

So when i use LLLFixed i should delete and regenerate the config?@paper cosmos

[paper cosmos]

Yee

Then use lethal quantities to customize, easier than letting lllfixed do it

[hallow copper]

yeah im confused as to why some people are saying this is fixing desync, I was getting desync earlier with my friends using this

and I thought they had acknowledged and were working on it

it does fix the duplicating config issues though

[mortal pendant]

not every desync is caused by LLL

this fixes most desyncs caused by LLL

[paper cosmos]

I'm having 0 desync atm

018e2377-5d20-0afb-3b00-6d6c6ac815dd

[mortal pendant]

im having desyncs that dont even make sense

[paper cosmos]

Almost 200 mods and still running clean

Peep my pack it works with no desync

[mortal pendant]

like... what

[paper cosmos]

Wtf

Send me your code pm I'll check it out in the am

[mortal pendant]

200 mods: 25 mods, 30 libraries, 45 cosmetics, 95 suits, 5 animations fr fr

[mortal pendant]

i couldn't reproduce it with the exact same config right after

[hallow copper]

weird, I swear I wasn't getting desync issues before installing this mod

maybe there's a desync ghost haunting the modding community

[hallow copper]

what the fuck

[mortal pendant]

rare experimentation W

[hallow copper]

paid to go there lmfao

[mortal pendant]

(it didn't give me money it just rolled back)

[hallow copper]

damn

[solid stump]

that's wild

[mortal pendant]

mrov you already saw that you don't have to react again

[astral agate]

how to show the possible structures like this?

[fickle mirage]

"simulate MOONNAME"

[astral agate]

this did not fix it

[astral agate]

this fixed it

[fiery ravine]

Do I need to delete lll and replace it with the fixed mod or do I need both

[scarlet python]

doesn't matter

[fiery ravine]

So I can delete it

[scarlet python]

if you want. it makes no difference

[fiery ravine]

Alr

[paper cosmos]

Just make sure to delete lll configs and let fixed generate new ones

[fiery ravine]

This?

And I just press delete right?

@paper cosmos

[signal tide]

yes

[paper cosmos]

Yea

[steel vapor]

Has anyone found a solution / cause of Interior desync. where some people in a lobby get a seperate interior than the host?

[twilit ether]

I think the most common cause(that i've seen) is if clients don't have the same config settings for the interior mod as the host

[steel vapor]

we all have the same configs

[crisp kite]

that shouldn't be relevant whatsoever

[twilit ether]

oh sorry I didn't know

I've just seen a several instances of people speculating that was the cause

[steel vapor]

Is there any advice

[tribal hatch]

why dont the creator of this and batby work together?

[opaque steeple]

Because batby doesn't work currently.

[tribal hatch]

OHHHH

that makes sense

love you batby

[neon steeple]

Idk if this place for it, but do we know if using the tag "All"
When editing interior generation configs works? I remember seeing a post saying it didnt a while ago

[paper cosmos]

Run lll fixed with lethal quantities, and bobs your uncle, use lq to customize and lll fixed for actually doing the heavy lifting of spawning in maps and interiors,

Make sure to delete old lll configs

Haven't had a single issue since this and I'm running almost 200 mods

And for best results I advise disabling original lll

Og lll causes duped configs, which will give interior desync

[scarlet python]

you don't need to disable LLL if you're using LLLFixed

[vague crest]

Some poeple report that disabling LLL seems to resolve some issues, i thinks that it's better to disable it tbh

[opaque steeple]

But BepIn doesn't load it. It skips it because LLLF is a newer version.

[steel vapor]

i think that was my issue

thanks

[astral agate]

yes you need to replace it trust me

disable LLL if you're using LLLFixed

issues occur if both are enabled

[fiery ravine]

Alr

[grave yoke]

So I guess that the GI skip to online doesn't work anymore with this version?

[tough orchid]

Can you fix the all config for some interior mods not working to select all moons

[paper cosmos]

Damn really?

[grave yoke]

doesn't work for me just won't boot the game

[split osprey]

GI's skip to online is working fine for me with a bunch of content being loaded by LLLFixed. Not sure what's different.

[paper cosmos]

I'll try when I get home but worked for me last night

I miss introtweaks

[mortal pendant]

everything that skips selecting Online or LAN breaks LLL and LLLFixed.

[tawdry thistle]

the GI one works fine for me, it will stay at a black screen for a bit while it loads assets but it continues just fine

[solid stump]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/IntroTweaks/

0 issues for me and my whole group

[mortal pendant]

HEY i was looking for the link just now

how dare you send it before me

[west cypress]

I was just about to post that but mrov got to it before I did

[solid stump]

🥹

[mortal pendant]

lmfao

[solid stump]

oopsie 😄

[solid stump]

i must say: i've disabled the GI's skip when using that

and i honestly don't know (or care) if they work together

[lyric charm]

i heard someone mentioning skipping the stuff on game launch can negatively affect the loading of the game and that introtweaks did it destructively

but i had used owen’s mod in a modpack with 100+ mods but never encountered an issue with it

[mortal pendant]

it just depends on what mods you're using

[lyric charm]

so does it actually affect the game loading in any way?

[mortal pendant]

also there are two mods that skips it without breaking stuff

[solid stump]

i'm gonna be honest - i've had the same and suddenly IntroTweaks broke steam functionality for one person in my group

like... how?

[mortal pendant]

prevents all functions that activate on pressing the Online button to function

[solid stump]

IntroTweaks loaded in a way that broke LLL's loading process, so there were many issues

[mortal pendant]

i just realized i said it prevents fuctions from functioning

[lyric charm]

so ur version actually works better than owen’s?

i’ll give it a try later

[mortal pendant]

it should make it so that everything is able to load

[solid stump]

i use the confirmed working method from LC_FastStartup

it's the only difference

[paper cosmos]

This is what I did with the old intro tweaks

[leaden violet]

That one didn’t even work right for me so I stopped using it

[solid stump]

real talk: i've uploaded that so original IntroTweaks could stop causing me issues

i will not improve it, add new features or even fix anything - it's not mine, i don't care

it's for the "meantime" only - until a better (and consistent) solution will be present

[leaden violet]

For the record I was referring to LC_FastStartup, if those messages were directed at me

[mental quarry]

Maybe this is why it doesn't break a lot of functions of the game too compared to the og one

and why it works with Bongo's SoundAPI

[leaden violet]

Ohhh I misunderstood

[solid stump]

yes, i know 😅

[leaden violet]

I thought you meant you use LC fast Startup and not your introtweaks

Not that you intergrated LC fast startup in your introtweaks

[solid stump]

😅 didn't make myself clear enough

[leaden violet]

I was just meaning to make conversation lol

[solid stump]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalIntroTweaks/commit/c371b8980c312aad7cfb9667bb62afd8e83c0acc

this is the entire change

[leaden violet]

For me fast startup would never skip the splash screens/online screen for some ungodly reason

It’s been a while so maybe it’ll work now

[solid stump]

that's why i've uploaded this

frankensteined thing

[leaden violet]

Also I assume I shouldn’t use your MainMenuVersion mod when using the fork

Hopefully it’ll work for me! lol

[solid stump]

you can, it's gonna overwrite IntroTweaks fully

if you have a specific setup

and (hopefully) i'll add something to the mainmenuversion soon

[leaden violet]

I moreso mean is it needed since afaik you just took the functionality from introtweaks so it should effectively be the same thing

[solid stump]

it is

[leaden violet]

Gotcha

I’ll prob swap to IntroTweaks (assuming I have no issues with it) until there’s a reason to swap back— keeps the mod list smaller lol

[solid stump]

fair enough

[elder phoenix]

do you know is only skipping online/lan buttons break LLL, or skipping startup animation breaks it as well?

i mean there's two options in GI

and i'm using only first one

[solid stump]

i don't know how GI's option works tbh

i've disabled it right away (cause i had introtweaks for that)

to avoid any conflicts

[elder phoenix]

i really doubt that it can be the case of interior desyncs even with lllfixed, but who knows

i'm grasping at straws

[agile pasture]

some things get bugs if you enable that, but I don't remember what mod was that, so I just leave it on false, just to be sure 😄

[elder phoenix]

yeah, worth a try

[split osprey]

My group, using LLLFixed to load content and GI to skip both startup things, just finished a multi-hour session where we visited numerous modded moons with numerous modded interiors. Not a single desync, except for the always standard first day weather desync. 🤷‍♀️

[mental quarry]

First day weather never desyncs for me 🤔

But I use WeatherTweaks so maybe that's why

[agile pasture]

Don't kill me fot this question, but does the new update of AC, that has it's own LLL now, called advanced level loader, is ok on it's own and can play the LLL moons with it, or I better use LLL fixed
And does LLL fixed override AC LLL or not

[mental quarry]

Don't use AC's LLL fork

[leaden violet]

What is now AdvancedLevelLoader (ALL) was included in AdvancedCompany (AC) from versions 1.1.5 to 1.1.10, but is now uploaded as a separate mod.

Both LLLFixed and ALL deactivate LLL during boot. There’s no reason to have both LLLFixed and ALL at the same time as they don’t work together, and I wouldn’t recommend using them at the same time; however, LLLFixed is compatible with the now-outdated versions of AdvancedCompany that include its own version of LLL, and simply deactivates ACs LLL during boot.

AdvancedCompany is currently compatible with all three versions of LLL:

• LethalLevelLoader 1.1.6 by IAmBatby, AKA LLL

• https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/

• LethalLevelLoaderFixed 1.1.0 by Refract, AKA LLLFixed

• https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Refract/LethalLevelLoaderFixed/

• AdvancedLevelLoader 1.999.2 by PotatoePet (the creator of AdvancedCompany), AKA ALL

• https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/PotatoePet/AdvancedLevelLoader/

• LLL is the original version of the mod, however it is currently on an indefinite hiatus, and contains some bugs.

• LLLFixed is an officially supported fork of LLL, and aims to fix some big desync issues, as well as an issue with duplication within LLLs config file. It will likely be discontinued if/when LLL updates again, and its features are planned to be included in the next LLL update.

• ALL is a fork made as a complementary mod for AC, as LLL will no longer be compatible with it as of its next update. It fixes a few things present in LLL 1.1.6, such as an issue with the “switch” terminal command, as well as several bugs surrounding LECore. It is not officially supported by IAmBatby, and is planned to be supported by PotatoePet as long as LLL is incompatible with AC.

[crisp kite]

as long as LLL is incompatible with AC.
This isn't a thing that exists

[leaden violet]

As of the next LLL update, due to its change to a GPLv3 license, AdvancedCompany will not be able to continue using it in the same manner due to its current (modified) FSL-1.1-MIT license, as AC modifies LLL to make it compatible, and the GPLv3 license makes it legally unable to do so under those conditions.

• More information on AdvancedCompany’s FSL-1.1-MIT license can be found here in the following:

• https://fsl.software

• https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/PotatoePet/AdvancedCompany/wiki/1683-license/

• More information on LethalLevelLoader’s GPLv3 license can be found here: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html

[crisp kite]

Ohh thats why he split them

wow

lmao

[leaden violet]

AdvancedCompany has had the FSL-1.1-MIT license for multiple weeks now.

[crisp kite]

Yeah I'm aware

It's an absolutely stupid fucking license

[leaden violet]

Regardless of your opinion on licensing, my point still stands that yes, LLL will be incompatible with AC due to future versions switching to a GPLv3 license.

Please try to avoid spreading misinformation regarding this in the future.

[tawdry thistle]

im confused, that doesnt make it not compatible at run time, it just makes forking new versions incompatible right?

[mental quarry]

Alecks you really need to stop man.

[tawdry thistle]

cause i took incompatibility to mean you cant run both mods at run time

which i dont think matches the licensing convo

[leaden violet]

You can, they just won’t function properly.

[leaden violet]

?

What am I doing wrong? /genq

[mental quarry]

I'd already blocked you earlier cus I couldn't stand listening to you go on and on about Potatoe and now you're saying Batby is spreading misinformation, I think Batby would know more about their mod being compatible or not than you would 😆

[crisp kite]

No, AC stealing my work will no longer be legally viable while Potato still wants to use that psycho license

LLL isn't incompatible with anything

What Potato is doing is incompatible with the law

[crisp kite]

Such an absolutely gross comment.

[mental quarry]

I agree

Dude's starting to annoy me with the extent he talks about AC and Potatoe tbh

[leaden violet]

Some devices are designed to deny users access to install or run modified versions of the software inside them, although the manufacturer can do so. This is fundamentally incompatible with the aim of protecting users' freedom to change the software. The systematic pattern of such abuse occurs in the area of products for individuals to use, which is precisely where it is most unacceptable. Therefore, we have designed this version of the GPL to prohibit the practice for those products. If such problems arise substantially in other domains, we stand ready to extend this provision to those domains in future versions of the GPL, as needed to protect the freedom of users.

[tawdry thistle]

that still doesnt mean anything to at run time, that means modifying code of the thing and releasing it in your thing

[crisp kite]

sick quote, not sure why your posting it!

[tawdry thistle]

i think theres a misunderstaning of what compatibility means here

or at least the context in which its being used

[mental quarry]

Possibly

[leaden violet]

What does it mean to say that two licenses are “compatible”? (#WhatIsCompatible)
In order to combine two programs (or substantial parts of them) into a larger work, you need to have permission to use both programs in this way. If the two programs' licenses permit this, they are compatible. If there is no way to satisfy both licenses at once, they are incompatible.

For some licenses, the way in which the combination is made may affect whether they are compatible—for instance, they may allow linking two modules together, but not allow merging their code into one module.

If you just want to install two separate programs in the same system, it is not necessary that their licenses be compatible, because this does not combine them into a larger work.

AC modifies LLL

[tawdry thistle]

yeah you are using compatibility differently than others here

[crisp kite]

Absolutely, but after almost two weeks of the situation going on, they can either start posting informed information or stop posting at all.

[leaden violet]

That is from Batby’s license

[crisp kite]

the words arent wrong

you reading them is

[tawdry thistle]

i dont disagree at all

[crisp kite]

Nothing is stopping AC from modifying the real LLL

Nothing

Potato has known this for at least 11 days

[tawdry thistle]

yes but license compatibility is not what people in a modding scene think about when you say something is not compatible, they actually mean compatibilty at run time

[leaden violet]

I specified license compatibility several times

[tawdry thistle]

not in your first statements

[leaden violet]

I apologize for not being more clear

[crisp kite]

No actually you said "as long as LLL is incompatible with AC."

LLL is not incompatible with AC.

Potato's license on the shitty fork of my work is incompatible with LLL's license.

[leaden violet]

ALL is a fork made as a complementary mod for AC, as LLL will no longer be compatible with it as of its next update. It fixes a few things present in LLL 1.1.6, such as an issue with the “switch” terminal command, as well as several bugs surrounding LECore. It is not officially supported by IAmBatby, and is planned to be supported by PotatoePet as long as LLL is incompatible with AC.

[tawdry thistle]

i undertand what you are trying to convey but it does not read that way

[leaden violet]

Can I ask how? I’m genuinely confused here.

like legitimately asking

[crisp kite]

why are you bolding the things you got wrong LMAO

[tawdry thistle]

at no point in that statement does it explicity point to licensing

[leaden violet]

My language processing disorder can make things difficult

[tawdry thistle]

so it cant be inferred that is what you mean contextually

[tawdry thistle]

and that is fair, just trying show where the breakdown seems to be

[leaden violet]

ALL is MIT

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedLevelLoader/blob/main/LICENSE

AC and ALL have different licenses

[leaden violet]

I mean it’s the same end-result, is it not?

[tawdry thistle]

it is not, not to a user perspective who is just trying to see if it will work if they load it with each mod

[supple fulcrum]

As someone with no real horse in this race, who only knew a little bit about all this and started really reading up on this in the last day or two since someone mentioned not to use LLL and AC together, I was under the impression that the "incompatibility" issue was prompted by this comment #1186884307332108339 message from you back around when this started batby.

If that's no longer something you plan to do, I think it's worth letting Potatoe know that. I'm fairly certain they've said the whole reason the LLL fork exists is because they believe the new versions of LLL will be fundamentally unfunctional with AC in the future. If that's not something you actually want to happen, then I don't see any reason for the AC LLL fork to exist

[crisp kite]

If a speeding truck drove into a motorcycle and the crash killed both drivers, you wouldn't say "two fatalities were caused by the motorcycle colliding with the truck" even though in a literal sense it might be objectively true. the way things are phrased creations implications and the way your phrasing things with the lack of clarification is misleading.

[leaden violet]

Considering that he was just asking if they work I felt like going into the legality was unnecessary

[crisp kite]

That was never going to be enforced and Potato made an explicit comment mentioning this 11 days ago

[leaden violet]

…yes I would? What’s wrong with that sentence?? /gen

[crisp kite]

It's not the point.

LLL is incompatible with AC ❎
AC is incompatible with LLL ✅

[west cypress]

Wait Batby, when you say LLL is incompatible with AC is incorrect, do you mean LLL has always been compatible with AC after the drama but it's entirely on AC side to be compatible with LLL?

[leaden violet]

This is the same end result

[west cypress]

oh nvm you answered it

[leaden violet]

They already use AC

and asked which to use

If they didn’t I would have worded it differently

[crisp kite]

I am directly telling you, a person who explicitly asked for clarification on why your wording was misleading, that this is not true

[leaden violet]

I’m lost /gen

[alpine fable]

The difference is that there's a deliberate decision for the second one

Deliberate means intentional right?

[leaden violet]

LLL is the license that’s changing

[alpine fable]

Yeah it does*

I dont think this is about licenses

[crisp kite]

No it kinda is

[leaden violet]

It literally was, I’m the one who wrote it

[tawdry thistle]

meaning the initial question was not, but the answer that was provided was

[leaden violet]

it’s about both

[tawdry thistle]

thats the disconnect

[alpine fable]

Hmm alright, I only kinda read the last 4 messages anyway :p

[crisp kite]

@alpine fable Seems like AC split off my stolen work into its own mod because he's being a freak with his license on AC and using said license with his fork of LLL isn't legally allowed due to the license on LLL

[alpine fable]

Ah ic

Oooh wait I do actually see

[leaden violet]

AC, LLL, and ALL have different licenses, Batby

[crisp kite]

wow really

[alpine fable]

That's really interesting lmao

[west cypress]

Original question:
"Don't kill me fot this question, but does the new update of AC, that has it's own LLL now, called advanced level loader, is ok on it's own and can play the LLL moons with it, or I better use LLL fixed
And does LLL fixed override AC LLL or not" -stpdcnt

I actually don't think licenses needed to be in the answer for this..

[crisp kite]

i had no idea!

[tawdry thistle]

this is my pov as well

[crisp kite]

i dont care about licenses being mentioned or not mentioning

i care about "LLL being incompatible with AC"

[leaden violet]

Batby please stop with the sarcasm, I’ve established I have a disability that makes it difficult for me.

[crisp kite]

Yeah and I tried to give you direct, explicit feedback about that and you just didnt care

[leaden violet]

I made clear I was confused with the example you gave and you didn’t explain it

[alpine fable]

Alright alright, I'd rather not see this get heated

Did the original person get their answer?

[leaden violet]

^

[leaden violet]

They had it in my first message

[alpine fable]

Then that's that, conversation over, no need to keep talking about the million LLL's out there

[tawdry thistle]

ill be honest, that reply confused me about it contextually, but ill digress

[alpine fable]

I'll digress you, shoo shoo

[leaden violet]

My point exactly, I don’t get why this discussion is even happening :c

I’m really trying to understand

[alpine fable]

That's why it's ending and no more talk about it after i send this exact message :p

[supple fulcrum]

I think there's a misunderstanding here, but I may be wrong too.

I was under the impression that splitting the fork into a different mod today had nothing to do with licensing, and the licensing issue comes from AC (on it's own, fork not included) would not be able to funcion with LLL, as AC on its own would have to modify LLL at runtime to work, and due to their respective licenses, that could not be possible. And therefore the reason the fork happened was to ensure he could use whatever license he wanted with it

[alpine fable]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-one-piece-thinking-hmm-anime-gif-17275096

[supple fulcrum]

Apologies, I'll stop posting. I was scrolled up so didn't see the more recent messages, probably good to end it but this all is just a bit confusing and the whole thing seems like it's full of miscommunications

[alpine fable]

That's alright, if you get a response by batby, then that's that, please don't try to continue it from there, thanks

[leaden violet]

I also apologize again for the conflict my answer caused— I had purely honest intentions and just wanted to help the guy after they were basically told “No.” when they asked

I hate conflict, especially causing it, and I’ve been shaking this whole time ;-;

[sour prawn]

anyways, i have a question regarding the config

does messing with the factory and haunted mansion interior moon spawns even do anything

like considering they spawn on 90% of planets i assume messing with that doesnt change anything

i specifically mean setting them to a specific planet and adding chances for them to show up

[crisp kite]

mods modifying other mods at runtime cannot be limited by licenses in the context of lethal company modding, period

authors attempting to limit other authors from modifying their mods at runtime will not be enforced by the thunderstore, period

the current license on the real LLL (which is not the version Potato has forked) forces any fork of my work to use the same license.

Because of this, If Potato wants a different license on Advanced Company, his fork of my work must be on a separate repo

Releasing them on the Thunderstore separately makes the license used on the release uploaded to the thunderstore are consistently separate, like how the repos are (Although I have yet to get an official statement from Thunderstore staff on if that difference would actually be considered when enforcing rules due to license infringement)

While I won't shame any user who uses it. I think re-using my work like this, let alone rebranding it and having your ko-fi link attached to it is genuinely disgusting and unless it changes will likely result in the deprecation of LethalLevelLoader's development. There is no legitimate reason any of this needs to happen and the actions and opinions he has taken seem genuinely incompatible with what modding fundamentally is.

[vague crest]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

When i wake up to go to work and i see 100 unread messages in this channel

[paper cosmos]

so RIP LLL?

shame this is the way things went people shouldnt steal peoples work, good luck in future endeavors @crisp kite

[alpine fable]

more working less popcorn

[vague crest]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sad-lazy-at-work-gif-12952726

[tribal hatch]

any known incompatibilities?

[cosmic vessel]

how do I remove this part of the mod?

[opaque steeple]

I don't think you can.

[vague crest]

There no option for that ?

In the config file ?

[cosmic vessel]

this is all I see but I'm not too sure what to change it too

[opaque steeple]

That's for what's shown beside moon name.

[solid stump]

😢

[paper cosmos]

if u select all itll show all the acceptable values next to your moon

[cosmic vessel]

yeah but is there no way to remove it? whenever I'm on cams and type switch to switch to another player it ends up switching the filter on moons and breaks the view monitor cams

[solid stump]

I'm not gonna sure how much (or if) this will help: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/TerminalFormatter/

it moves filters to the top

[cosmic vessel]

I'll try it out

[tribal hatch]

is advanced company incompat with LLLFixed? just curious before i add it in

[vague crest]

I could add a settings to disable it, but i'm not sure of the impact, i don't know if custom moons will be show on the vanilla moons catalogue, so you will need to use another kind of terminal formatter (like the one linked above)

[solid stump]

So - right now - it's all for nothing?

[tribal hatch]

nvm i just read up on the news :D

[cosmic vessel]

don't think it helped but the terminal looks better 👍 I'll probably keep using it

[solid stump]

I'm gonna look deeper into your issue - perhaps there are some mods conflicting

could you send me your modpack code?

[steel vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/spill-spill-app-spill-the-tea-andre-3000-tea-be-cool-gif-15168959444406192086

[tribal hatch]

what is the consensus on AdvancedLevelLoader?

[steel vapor]

I have a question regarding LLLFixed, I’m running LLLFixed without LLL in my pack, because I figured that is what was causing my desync issues, BUT now that I don’t have the original LLL, I don’t get a config that generates, and I kinda want that because I like setting the default Sort Filter and Preview options in there so I don’t have to do it every time I open a new save

[steel vapor]

Unnecessary

Regardless of your opinion on the legality or morality or blah blah blah

Fact is

[tribal hatch]

was wanting to add it for the voice chat for spectators is showing icons that bounce which i really want to add to save screen clutter with names

[steel vapor]

Ac and ALLL are two different mods

You can use AC with LLLFixed