Rosie's Mods (RosiesMoons, CozyOffice)

[hybrid fern]

Just please avoid being toxic

[novel scroll]

I'm not saying they shouldn't, I was giving my feedback on why I didn't do the glitched text. I like more liminal anomalies, probably not whatever Sci-Fi thing Starlancer and Mae has in store, which is why I drifted toward Rosie's

I specifically said without rude intent

I can have opinions, lol

[pseudo thistle]

fair

[hybrid fern]

Starlancer's was the first one and feels like the most vanilla Anomaly moon, DemonMae's I dunno how to quite describe quite yet in words but I love it

Rosie's I love all of them

[novel scroll]

I'll be sure to look into both later, Purple's edit of Sniper's TemplateMoon rlly got me into the idea of anomalous moons 🙏

I'm glad to see that it's already an existing concept /w these moons, and what I've seen so far is peak

[plush saffron]

Anomalous moons?

[novel scroll]

Moons that don't follow the laws of the universe/nature

[hybrid fern]

Yeah I didn't notice that you added that on lol

[novel scroll]

Ah

[hybrid fern]

Yeah just wanted to make sure you weren't trying to be toxic ^^

[pseudo thistle]

Tbh, I agree with the glitchy text being overdone, it really was only supposed to be for penumbra but I ended up forgetting to do custom info for the others

thats why they are all the same

[novel scroll]

Unrelated critque for Idiosyn: The indoors would be much creepier if the special red eyes were visible through them. I've already noticed that some of the red eyes, the ones that I referred to as special in my previous sentence, that were visible no matter where you were outside

[pseudo thistle]

The red eyes should be visible indoors, maybe not as common as Id like though

[novel scroll]

Might've been Imperium/HDLethalCompany fucking with them

I'll check how they are without those two mods rq

[lethal bay]

lol! Glad to see templatemoon getting the love and attention it deserves /j

I guess it does provide an interesting place for players to also just mess with config stuff and test things out.

[novel scroll]

Purple's made his a living hell

(125 max spike traps)

(Primarily Mineshaft too)

[hybrid fern]

HDLethalCompany you shouldn't be using anymore anyways, and it has some compat issues with Rosie's moons

It's deprecated cus it was abandoned

[lethal bay]

I know! And the thing with spike traps is they, for some reason, always throw yellow warning text when they’re about to fall. Their logs must be packed with it!

[novel scroll]

Yeah, no wonder he got so much lag on it

He removed outdoor spore lizards to alleviate the lag a bit... but I doubt it's really gonna help, lmfao

It used to have 150 max spike traps until THIS happened: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3378393724

[lofty helm]

Wait, that wasn't intended?

[novel scroll]

Are they supposed to be white?

[fervent summit]

they're supposed to be red

[novel scroll]

Istg if AggressiveMaterialFix is causing this...

[fervent summit]

you shouldn't use aggressive material fix anyway

[novel scroll]

I want everything to use LC's shaders, so ya

[fervent summit]

you still shouldn't use it

[novel scroll]

Also Idk why it's Idiosyn-exclusive, but the Castle interior can't spawn here

[fervent summit]

it breaks so many things that its not worth it

[novel scroll]

As in I fall into the void upon entry into the facility

[fervent summit]

castle from scoopy's right

[novel scroll]

Yeah, and don't say it's because it's old; no other custom moon does this

[novel scroll]

Yeah, I figured it was

[fervent summit]

could be the specific offset from the teleport location

[novel scroll]

Hold on

It DOES load

It just immediately disappears upon entry though

[fervent summit]

cozy office used to have a problem where people could fall through the floor in main

[novel scroll]

I saw it for a split second

I wonder if it's CullFactory

[fervent summit]

shouldn't be

[novel scroll]

It might be, the interior is above the exterior rather than below it on Idiosyn

[ashen pawn]

Someone had a bug of similar nature using cullfactory and the liminal pools interior together

Then it got patched I'm pretty sure

[novel scroll]

Nope, it still does it, even with CullFactory disabled

I'm noticing that before disappearing, it turns blue

Like, no textures, just raw blue

What the fuck?

[ashen pawn]

😭

[novel scroll]

Rosie wtf did u do...

[ashen pawn]

Quite strange

[novel scroll]

I'll get footage of it rq

Then send log

[fervent summit]

thats after you turn off aggressive material fix right

[novel scroll]

No, happened before

and after

[fervent summit]

wait didnt you mention you use hdlc

[novel scroll]

I don't use that either anymore

[fervent summit]

ok

did you post your code earlier

[novel scroll]

In this thread? No

[fervent summit]

from what youve told me i cant think of anything causing the problem but scoopys

if you can send your code ill take a quick look

[novel scroll]

That'd be disappointing considering this interior is literally perfect for Idiosyn

[novel scroll]

@pseudo thistle (Apologies for the ping) 0193a44d-5b60-982d-0aa4-1861ad50f939

@fervent summit You too, I guess

[fervent summit]

Stack trace:
CentralConfig.ShareScrapValue.CalculateScrapValueMultiplier () (at <6b495b79c5974a098f3c16b457407a4c>:IL_00D1)
CentralConfig.EnactDungeonInjections.Postfix () (at <6b495b79c5974a098f3c16b457407a4c>:IL_06D0)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewFloor>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<RoundManager::GenerateNewFloor>?-864200070(RoundManager)
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLibPatches.Dungeon_GenerateNewFloor_Prefix (System.Action`1[T] orig, RoundManager self) (at ./General/OptionalPatches/LethalLibPatches.cs:26)
(wrapper dynamic-method) LethalLib.Modules.Dungeon.DMD<LethalLib.Modules.Dungeon::RoundManager_GenerateNewFloor>(On.RoundManager/orig_GenerateNewFloor,RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<RoundManager::GenerateNewFloor>?-2099430736(RoundManager)
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager.SetRandomExtendedDungeonFlowClientRpc (LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager+StringContainer[] dungeonFlowNames, System.Int32[] rarities) (at ./Patches/LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager.cs:138)
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager.__rpc_handler_2948417154 (Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour target, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams rpcParams) (at <7d065480070b4244997d1d3dd40e6646>:IL_00B8)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers.Handle (Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext& context, Unity.Netcode.RpcMetadata& metadata, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader& payload, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams& rpcParams) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_004E)
Rethrow as Exception: Unhandled RPC exception!
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ClientRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendClientRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ClientRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager:SetRandomExtendedDungeonFlowClientRpc(StringContainer[], Int32[]) (at ./Patches/LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager.cs:119)
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager:GetRandomExtendedDungeonFlowServerRpc() (at ./Patches/LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager.cs:77)
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager:__rpc_handler_12573863(NetworkBehaviour, FastBufferReader, __RpcParams)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ServerRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendServerRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ServerRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager:GetRandomExtendedDungeonFlowServerRpc() (at ./Patches/LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager.cs:47)
LethalLevelLoader.DungeonLoader:SelectDungeon() (at ./Loaders/DungeonLoader.cs:36)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches:InjectHostDungeonFlowSelection() (at ./General/Patches.cs:652)
RoundManager:DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager, Int32, Int32, Int32, Int32, Int32[])
RoundManager:__rpc_handler_3073943002(NetworkBehaviour, FastBufferReader, __RpcParams)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ClientRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendClientRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ClientRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
RoundManager:DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager, Int32, Int32, Int32, Int32, Int32[])
<LoadNewLevelWait>d__130:DMD<RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__130::MoveNext>(<LoadNewLevelWait>d__130)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)```
seeing this right after it selects castle

[novel scroll]

So it's WeatherReg doing it?...

I can't read logs, or at least not well

[hybrid fern]

CentralConfig is broken right now

I said this earlier

[novel scroll]

Broken /w WeatherReg you mean, or is this just in general?

[hybrid fern]

Lass is going to be merging a PR later from Mrov, this is honestly why I have a hard time recommending CC - it's a great mod but it's extremely invasive in how it touches things so if anything it references changes it breaks

[novel scroll]

.

[hybrid fern]

It's not WeatherRegistry's fault it's breaking and you shouldn't be blaming it. Mrov is a great dev and a great Coder

It's how Lass invasively looks for fields in WR that caused it

Luckily I sent Mrov the errors and he instantly pushed a pr

[novel scroll]

I'll take that as a yes, I'd rather be disabling WeatherReg over CentralConfig since it's the basis of my modpack
I'm not interested on your opinions of Lass and Mrov lol

[hybrid fern]

Or just downgrade it for now.

[novel scroll]

That too, I forgot

[hybrid fern]

I'm not giving you my opinions on them I would just rather not see you blame WeatherRegistry when CC should be less invasive, I still like CC but I wish it was less invasive so it wasn't so easily prone to breaking

Cus it becomes frustrating for other devs to help work out compat

[novel scroll]

I prioritize CentralConfig over WeatherReg, so

I was asking specifically about WeatherReg to see if I needed to disable/downgrade it, because it's the one after all that updated and broke CC

I'm not tryna make this a dick-measuring contest or whatever

[hybrid fern]

I get that but I feel like Mrov doesn't deserve to be blamed is all, the update he did actually shouldn't have broken CC at all because he made the change backwards compatible

[novel scroll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[novel scroll]

Yeah, downgrading WeatherRegistry did nothing

I...

Where the fuck am I?

I belive what's causing the issue is Rosie's custom invisible walls? I guess?

Yeah... look

[fervent summit]

me personally i wouldn't run cc in the first place but to each their own

[novel scroll]

I can't enter the blue section at all

So it's not the interior; it's the moon

[fervent summit]

i don't think so

[novel scroll]

WAIT, IT IS. I REMEMBER NOW; When I was checking out Idiosyn earlier via Imperium, parts of the vanilla factory were blocked off by the same blue box.

It is the moon's fault. Why are there even blue boxes to begin with?

[pseudo thistle]

nope

[novel scroll]

Fire is fine

[pseudo thistle]

oh is it in the sky still

[novel scroll]

Yeah. Did you mean to move the interior back down under the exterior, but forgot?

[novel scroll]

Another issue

Hygroderes are invisible outside on Soreal

[pseudo thistle]

probably shaders

hmph

[pseudo thistle]

yeah

[novel scroll]

Ah

[pseudo thistle]

ill fix it but I want to try and do some stuff to penumbra & untitled

[novel scroll]

Aight

[balmy blade]

it kinda reminds me of ||half life's resonance cascade|| lol

[novel scroll]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3380596863

Soreal's VHS effect applied to the Castellum Carnis interior makes it look even more surreal, and when you unplug its apparatus, everything going dull, including the music, is super creepy when you know what Castellum Carnis' apparatus is connected to

[heavy ruin]

I heard using that shade thingy is very taxing on a pc. Is that true?

I can't remember if someone told me what but they said like 99% of something was being used just to run it

[sand kite]

Is it a unique modelled App or just a recolored App?

[fervent summit]

If you mean Reshade then yes it's very taxing on GPU. Pushes my 1660 ti from 14% to 88% just running the vhs filter. However I think what they are referring to is the filter applied by Soreal itself, that isn't through reshade

[pseudo thistle]

Make sure you dont wake them o.o

[lethal bay]

aw fiddlesticks

[languid bridge]

... all i have is [[Richard]] jokes

[crisp mango]

flacid coilheads

[odd sapphire]

“Find out” LMAO

[odd sapphire]

I feel like they’re gonna ask me for my ID

You gotta be at least ||[REDACTED]|| to enter the facility on Sector-0.

[lavish bloom]

Any tips for gathering loot in Area 71? My friends and I are struggling to find loot there

[novel scroll]

When's the patch for the Anomaly Saga to be expected since Idiosyn is unplayable right now?

[pseudo thistle]

I can do that soon

Im cutting untitled though since I dont like it at this point in time

[languid bridge]

but... i like it <:(

[pseudo thistle]

we'll see where it goes haha

[novel scroll]

Imo Untilted feels like a better ||Pneumbra|| exterior-wise, though it could use more junk

Combining the two might yield interesting results, at least in my mind

[zealous lake]

I do like untitled as well \o/

[languid bridge]

nah, i think it's fine as a "things are floating" map. gives plenty of sense that something is unusual

[zealous lake]

my main issue with some of the anomaly moons are the level of aberration

[novel scroll]

Eh, it could've been executed better. It's all just ||resized scrap||

[zealous lake]

still very well designed though \o/

[languid bridge]

i meant Untitled

[novel scroll]

Oh, I don't think you got what I meant

||Penumbra|| would be better /w Untitled's exterior, though with a bit more junk from from the current ||Penumbra||

Kind of like an asteroid belt, but with earth and asset flips

[novel scroll]

Isn't that kinda what makes them unique though? That's what I love about them, they're wrong

[zealous lake]

no I like the aberration, I just wish it was configurable

a friend of mine was starting to get a headache from ||penunbra|| because of how intense it was

so a differing scale that we could access so that the aberration remains, but we can limit how strong for accessibility

[novel scroll]

Yeah, Idiosyn's interior is way too dark

If it were more like Asteroid-13's interior, it'd be much better

[wintry gorge]

Oh yeah chromatic aberration can hurt

[novel scroll]

So that's why my eyes were a bit strained on Soreal...

[agile river]

it is a bit intense

[lofty helm]

What? NO! Do you have a standalone version of Untitled that I can at least have?

[languid bridge]

https://i.gyazo.com/ae0a9c7c16dc15b894c1a4e05be794f7.jpg SCP interior on Idiosyn. one way wall. got stucked. couldnt interact with main.

[novel scroll]

Yeah

Interior is above the map instead of below it like how it is on every other moon

So it's clipping into the moon's invisible wall

Will be fixed next patch, or at least should

[sand kite]

Is there any particular reason why the interior is above and not below?

[novel scroll]

My only guesses are either aesthetic reasons, debugging, or a simple mistake, but we would have to hear that question answered from Rosie herself, so I won't go more into that

[tranquil echo]

Maybe dungeon root object was misplaced

[novel scroll]

Prob

[haughty forge]

considering it's an anomaly moon, probably intentional

[novel scroll]

Maybe, but Rosie will either have to can that idea, or get rid of/move the invisible wall above since it makes Idiosyn unplayable atm due to it

[haughty forge]

hey wait how tall is the scp interior?? the interiors seem decently high up

ah. the invisible wall is where the interior is.

[lavish bloom]

Does anyone know what the dungeon size factor for Sector-0 is?

[lofty helm]

We talking dungeon size factor or overall map size factor? I'm being told those are two separate things

[lavish bloom]

(Also how does the Minimum and Maximum Scrap value thing work? It says its only max 250 for offense)

[lavish bloom]

Just the dungeon. I hardcoded it to be 1.5 for that map but I wanna know what it is for when I change it back to normal

[lofty helm]

Well, I'm not sure anymore to be honest. I always change mine via LQ's map size mult (which people say never to do, but instead use the dungeon specific multipliers, but I've had no desync issues thus far). I think it's supposed to be closer to 2, but I don't know the exact.

[lofty helm]

And this is the range of value that the total amount of scrap should amount to, calculating it all up. This is assuming you get it all in one swoop, and does not count scrap that gets generated afterwards (such as bee hives, weapons from entites like the Nutcracker or Butlers, etc.)

At least I think so anyway. LQ only allows the customization of the scrap amount per moon, and not the value. I use LQ religiously, couldn't you tell? lol

I presume you're either using LLL or CC to alter the properties of Sect0, right?

[lavish bloom]

LLL is what I'm using... and if this is the case, it really doesn't seem right since one piece of scrap is usually like 30-40 on average, and Offense has a minimum scrap count of 14

[lofty helm]

Well, this is because, by default, all scrap on moons has values multiplied by 0.4x

And 250 is the MAX you said? So that would be an optimal day on Offense.

You usually won't get that much, and often times on the free moons, you get a lot of scrap that's closer to the 10-20 range.

[lavish bloom]

Usually I see the end screen say I could’ve got something around 700-800 on offense though?

Does that number scale as the game progresses, or is it always 250

[regal kernel]

Untitled seems broken

non host players fall through map'

[fervent summit]

untitled is gonna be removed for now

[regal kernel]

ah okay

[lusty heath]

ichor seems like ai pathfinding is broken outside

[novel scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186515716124459088/1315621870699020358/themanifestation.mp4?ex=675813d9&is=6756c259&hm=dd18b6a53c5f36ed680a1b483fe2a7cc707d3a4bfb422744aa2b3c3ea8000f39&

[wintry gorge]

Pet tulip snake

[lofty helm]

Skill issue

[pseudo thistle]

2

[lethal bay]

It doesn’t. They’re unused vanilla variables. It’s only the amount of scrap (and what the scrap is) that really matter toward value.

Might be why LQ doesn’t show it. LLL chose to show it in case it ever gets added, simply because it’s there, or another mod makes use of it I guess. Can’t really remember exactly why.

[pseudo thistle]

Oh, it literally is unused i didn’t know that

I thought it was just buggy

[lavish bloom]

Ah, that makes a lot more sense then, thank you

[wintry gorge]

Think there's a mod to enforce it though

[outer path]

@pseudo thistle Me and my friends are getting a game breaking error when playing with Sector0 Interior

The game gets stuck on the loading screen when you try to land the ship on a moon

[pseudo thistle]

You have duplicate interiors

Rosiesmoons includes the interiors

Remove the interior standalone

[haughty forge]

honestly you should put the note in the small manifest description

[outer path]

ah i see

sorry i just got back to lethal after several months

like 60 mod updates and didnt have time to look through all of them

maybe a massive warning in the boot-up log would help

[pseudo thistle]

Haha thats fair

[ebon timber]

i don't really understand why the interiors are bundled with RosiesMoons

[novel scroll]

It is weird, yeah

[pseudo thistle]

I suppose i could just remove that

[novel scroll]

Though, the moons are separated into their own sagas, so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ebon timber]

i would appreciate it

[lethal bay]

I do like the one download though. Could put interiors as a dependency I guess. That way they can't be duplicated but are "included"

[mental moat]

I like the one download too :]

[ebon timber]

i would really just prefer the moons to be in their own package and the interiors in their own package. i like to have a lot of moons but i like to keep it light on interiors and having them bundled/made as dependencies makes that very inconvenient for me

[haughty forge]

dependencies is a good compromise

[novel scroll]

Soft dependencies*

[mental moat]

I mean, Rosie's moons give everything that it's made.
Every saga gives only the moons, and with that you can download the interiors separately

[lethal bay]

Technically, I think you could still disable/delete the interiors after download if they're dependencies. A mod manager might give you a warning and try to get you delete the pack, but you can ignore it.

[odd sapphire]

The Sagas, "Rosie's Moons" and "Rosie's Interiors" might the best way to do it with the least confusion

[pseudo thistle]

Gordion saga includes area71 interior

[pseudo thistle]

Thats fair

I still havent gotten to uploading all the standalone moons

[mental moat]

I think.
If it's Rosie's Moons, it should have all the moons + the interiors.
If it's any of the sagas like, Gordion Saga, have the interior separate as a Dependency.

But I like the Rosie's Interiors (F my even number :,] )

[pseudo thistle]

And making a config to disable some on startup

[ebon timber]

yeah but if i delete then they're going to get redownloaded on every update. if i disable then that's just a bunch of dead weight in our pack that isn't doing anything. which isn't the worst thing ever but it's certainly less than ideal

[ebon timber]

i like this the most

[pseudo thistle]

Probably what ill do due to me making more interiors in the future

Like the ||experimentation|| interior and the ||hangar base|| interior

[haughty forge]

the huh

[pseudo thistle]

||I’m going to make a mock version of the fake interior from experimentation||

[mental moat]

interesting!

[pseudo thistle]

Maybe haha

Its in the backlog

I want to polish all the current moons first

[ebon timber]

i like that idea a lot. that was one of my favorite things from the alphas

[novel scroll]

Wouldn't that just be the factory /w an elevator?

[pseudo thistle]

Not really it looks a bit different

No elevator either for this case

[mental moat]

I've had a lot of fun with Tunere, I've made that as the Tutorial moon due to having 0 weight on outside enemies

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah tunere is pretty good as it is

[novel scroll]

I played the v4 ver of LC, and it wasn't all that different aside from like one empty tile
It's pretty much all just hallways leading to consistent dead ends

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah, I’m not going to make it look like the alphas

[novel scroll]

Hm

[pseudo thistle]

||Its going to look very similar to the left overs of the experimentation building||

[novel scroll]

I'm interested to how you'll go about that considering it'll be a homage to v4

[novel scroll]

Oh, that's what you meant

[pseudo thistle]

Yup

[novel scroll]

Shit's gonna look like something out of Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion, it'll be great 🙏 (That what v4 reminds me of)

[pseudo thistle]

Haha

[mental moat]

A small opinion for every Rosie's moon that I've played lately

• Tunere: Great
• Haul: A little too big for non cruiser players but good, also paper wall main entrance lol
• Soreal: Very good
• Affliction: Great

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah haul is supposed to be very big, but for an early moon with no cruiser available at the time its hard to navigate

Might make it a higher tier moon

[rustic wyvern]

I prefer the way Wes has it where the interiors and moons are seperate

[mental moat]

not a bad idea
and also, move this tree further away from the ship please, I have already softlocked on the ship screens several times because this tree is in the middle of the entire ship when landing

[pseudo thistle]

Np

Good to know now before i get back to working on it

[mental moat]

thanks, My last recommendation with this moon will be to add something behind the main entrance to simulate that there is something big inside, right now if you go around the house from the main entrance it will seem like it leads to nothing. Here's a screenshot made with Imperium to better show this case

[haughty forge]

i've never experienced that? i don't think there's randomly placed trees on haul either

[pseudo thistle]

True

[pseudo thistle]

I’ll look into it anyway

[mental moat]

Hmm, it happened to me several times, maybe I'm having an horrible bad luck

[pseudo thistle]

I don’t have randomly placed stuff

[turbid hamlet]

Bro entered the backrooms

[novel scroll]

Did a custom log to reveal Soreal and Idiosyn's presence. I'd thought I'd show it to u, Rosie, since it does involve those two moons of urs
U can find it on ||Artifice, in the bottom right warehouse, in its office, under the desk||: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/KidnapperProot/ConfinedContractLogs2/

Also because I don't wanna copy paste the entire damn thing into here and flood the thread 😭

(It's long)

[haughty forge]

i cheated to read it and its a really good log...

[balmy blade]

tell....

[little pewter]

🪵

[novel scroll]

Thank u 🙏

[novel scroll]

I uh don't mean to be annoying, but how's the progress on Idiosyn? It's... still unusable

[pseudo thistle]

trying to figure other stuff out, I suppose I can get the anomaly saga stuff out, but rosiesmoons update will be stalled until I can figure out this stuff

[novel scroll]

Alright, no rush

[lofty helm]

Oh, if you're going back to fixing moons, that sunken shed on Feign is one to look at. I can crouch to get in it, but I can't get back out of it. (Teleports from LGU and Emergency Dice somehow stopped working when I do this, but that's irrelevant)

Is that shed even supposed to be an area players can walk into?

[pseudo thistle]

Got it, the shed is supposed to be inaccessible

[lofty helm]

Here I thought you sneakily hid a log in there...

(Wish I knew at least what vanilla planets to check for logs)

[wintry gorge]

huh

[heavy ruin]

Looks like it comes down to chill guy to choose

https://tenor.com/view/x-men-apocalypse-xmen-james-mc-avoy-professor-x-serious-gif-5231247

Honestly dependencies

[hybrid fern]

Nah if it's tied it's Rosie's decision

lol

[heavy ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/jedi-council-star-wars-council-has-spoken-gif-17632756

[raven yarrow]

what is this 👀

found it, took long enough for someone else to do flesh

[pseudo thistle]

what bugs have there been so far except for idiosyn?

I found vending machines inside the walls of cozyoffice and I fixed that, but I feel as im forgetting something

[agile river]

ive seen a few tile gaps in cozy office, just in the upper office areas

[pseudo thistle]

yeah mostly thats just mesh compression

ill do some playtesting though

I hopefully will be able to get these out today

ah, I was going to do weights on other moons

[mental moat]

Tunere has a small bug related to the lightning detection inside the facility when stormy.
I mean, if you have a conductive item inside the facility, it makes the sound, and the particles, but it wont explode
I know someone pointed that it's more of an LLL issue, but idk why the issue is only happening on your moons on my side

[pseudo thistle]

no clue how to fix that

haha

[mental moat]

The rest would be some optimization in Sector-0, I don't know why my fps drops there

[pseudo thistle]

hmph

Ill have to ask sickboy

[vapid viper]

@pseudo thistleI've had an issue with your moons in junction with Wesley's Moons. Your moons are fine, and so are Wesley's unless both moon packs are installed.

I did a new profile with only the dependencies your moons and his moons require. When both packs are enabled, Experimentation starts flooded on a new save and any level generation seems wonky, like all scrap tending to be the same piece of scrap, enemies immediately being inside the main entrance, lack of possible routes from main (immediate dead ends on 2 of 3 directions often)

The second I disable Gordion Saga or Wesley Moons, the issue goes away. Doesn't matter which one I disable.

Do you know why this happens and is there a way around it?

[pseudo thistle]

not sure, but I know wesleys moons are a tiny bit outdated in this current moment, he is working on updating them, possibly remove one or the other until this time comes

[raven yarrow]

How do I see what updates are what

you moved it all to the modpack but they don't have their numbers

[mental moat]

uhm
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamTam/Sector0_Interior_old_version/

they don't need your permission to do this?

[novel scroll]

Can’t you just downgrade lol wtf

Actually so redundant

[lethal bay]

So you’ve got just Gordion Saga of Rosie’s stuff, right? Because it + the full RosiesMoons can be an issue.

Experimentation being flooded at start is “normal”. Vanilla’s first day weather is always the same. It’s “random” I think but based on the same seed. When you add moons that gets thrown off.

Single scrap days can be a vanilla thing. You sure you didn’t just get one of those event days?

Not sure about the other stuff.

[lethal bay]

At least they credit her and link back to this thread, so they’re not like super evil. Still, hope they got permission.

[hushed carbon]

@pseudo thistle ? https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamTam/Sector0_Interior_old_version/

[pseudo thistle]

yeah already talked about aleck about it

nothing to do with me, and I didnt get a headsup

[hushed carbon]

got it

seems just to be a reupload XD was kinda wishing it was a patched version haha

[pseudo thistle]

yeah, if I got a heads up + if someone wanted to take over that version id be fine with it

Im going to be working on something similar to that interior soon

[heavy ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/kel-mitchell-good-burger-eyes-gif-13896929

[hushed carbon]

not made by rosie and doesnt patch any of the issues the old one had

its just a reupload

[heavy ruin]

I'm crying rn 😭

Lol

[novel scroll]

It doesn't even make sense because you can downgrade the int to begin with

So???????????????????

Wtf

[hushed carbon]

yeah, if it was bugfixed id make sence

unless he wants to use both the new and old one

[novel scroll]

Unrelated hat throw, but I personally find v1 of Sector-0 to be the best one Imo

If y'all even remember it

[lofty helm]

Do the vending machines on the surface of Summit work?

Actually speaking of Summit, I found this just regular guy here in one of the offices adjacent to the main entrance building. He does nothing, cannot take damage or be killed, and does not have a radar node. He is literally just there.

[haughty forge]

oh god you found him

shut it down

[calm bough]

just so you know, the old sector 0 was in my top 3 modded interiors, but the new one in not even in my top 10. So if you could maybe bring back some of the stuff that were in the original.... that could be nice

[strong needle]

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-again-gta-gif-20483040

[pseudo thistle]

Accident, was using the player scale ref

[grand nexus]

i think area 71 is pretty decent

its like a more industrial version of the facility interior

[pseudo thistle]

New update is about to be uploaded, moon collection, and interiors because im busy lmao

the rest will come as soon as I can get it out

even standalones finally

might add like a 5% chance for haul to be snowy too since that sounds fun

And I worked out a changelog system so Ill do that too

overall lots of stuff lmao

[calm bough]

it's not that i dont like it, but it's because i loved old sector 0

[pseudo thistle]

Fair

That one is really broken atm sadly

Idk if i can recover it

[calm bough]

yeah i know that, there was a lot of issues but visuals and layouts were peak

[pseudo thistle]

Mhm

I do say i liked the red fog parkour holes

I may try and add it to this current one

[ashen pawn]

Is area71 like a different interior basically? Haven't looked into either one yet

[novel scroll]

How is v1 broken?

[hybrid fern]

V1 had a ton of bugs and stuff that never got fixed, I remember how broken it was

[novel scroll]

Weird, I don’t remember experiencing those

[hybrid fern]

It's hard to describe since I haven't played on it in a while

But I know I got shot by a wall turret hiding inside of something once

XD

[pseudo thistle]

Tons of missing references and weird tile clipping + the walls were double sided

[novel scroll]

Huh

Oh

I wonder if that’s why the Storehouse runs like total shit

[pseudo thistle]

Very unoptimized

[pseudo thistle]

Maybe

[hybrid fern]

Storehouse doesn't have any problems for me

[novel scroll]

Dopa, Purple, me, and Nova all have had issues with the Storehouse

[pseudo thistle]

I could introduce generik to the tool i use

[novel scroll]

What’s your GPU

If it’s higher than mine, then no shit you’re getting no lag

[hybrid fern]

I used to get lag in Storehouse but I don't anymore

It was caused by some mods I pulled I don't remember which

[calm bough]

things that i liked about the old one : industrial / labo layout separated by the drill (even if there was desyncs, still cool), all the parts that had enemies inside tubes, all random pathways that lead to other rooms (the one with the fake apparatus, the short "exterior" hallway, the rooms with old birds statue or the one with an employee ship). Even in the labo part we could find some experimentation rooms that served as loot rooms and a lot of other really cool things. Also all custom doors were insanely well made. When exploring the old sector 0 you really feel that it is a company forbidden dungeon.
However with the new area 71 it's more of a abandoned company building with big rooms and hallways. It's really not the same feeling when you explore it
So yeah maybe area 71 is not buggy like old sector 0 but i think old sector 0 is a much more fitting interior on the sector 0 custom moon

[novel scroll]

Yeah, I agree

The use of scrap mainly as decor was rlly creative

[calm bough]

anyway... that's just my opinion, if you dont know how to fix the original sector 0 or you dont want to, thats totally ok. Area 71 could get some upgrades in the future

[pseudo thistle]

Ofc

[novel scroll]

But Area 71 just feels like an empty warehouse atm, not a place you should be fearing

[pseudo thistle]

Tubes will be added

[calm bough]

yeah

[novel scroll]

Those huge hallways of Area 71 have potential though

[hybrid fern]

I too really loved V1 but I've loved all the versions of the Sector Interior

[novel scroll]

Combining v1 and elements of v3 would make it great again

[fresh venture]

Some stuff about the old interior was kinda weird
Like how the drill worked, since it didn’t sync with everyone, and there wasn’t really a clear way to even tell if it could do anything

[hybrid fern]

I know Rosie said V2 is gonna be coming back with some changes and a diff name

[novel scroll]

v1 is the best, v3 is good, v2… we don’t talk about that one

[pseudo thistle]

Bahaha

Ikr

The textures were wacky

[calm bough]

oh really? cool

[hybrid fern]

Hey no negativity here lol

[fresh venture]

I ended up finding out how to use it on a whim, and when i tried the interior with my friends, they didn’t even know that you could use it. They kinda just went around thinking the interior was small as hell

[novel scroll]

I loved v2’s aesthetic, but it’s mainly the gameplay that I disliked

It felt rlly wonky

[pseudo thistle]

Np

[hybrid fern]

What? I loved the gameplay

[pseudo thistle]

I take no offense

[hybrid fern]

The drills were sick

[calm bough]

v2 was my favorite ye

[novel scroll]

One of the main things iIrc was that the doors opened too slow

[pseudo thistle]

They were before i knew how to add networked objs to interiors

[pseudo thistle]

Fair

[novel scroll]

Weren’t they like big vault doors

[hybrid fern]

The doors were unused assets that Zeekerss originally used for the ship lol so the open speed was a Zeekerss' thing

[novel scroll]

Those are left over in the current version? I thought they were taken out of v4

[hybrid fern]

Rosie got access to them so they still exist in the game's files

[pseudo thistle]

the elevator seems to be missing but the vault doors are still there

[novel scroll]

Isn’t the vault door apart of the ship though? If so, where is it?

[pseudo thistle]

Disabled in the sample scene, just an obj

I had to make my own anim

[novel scroll]

Ah

[hushed carbon]

Still think v2 is the best minus the bugs it sadly had

[novel scroll]

What were its bugs?

[pseudo thistle]

sync issues

[novel scroll]

Ah

[pseudo thistle]

got the standalones uploaded, that was super tedious haha

[novel scroll]

Yipee, love ur moons

[lofty helm]

I too miss the OG Area71, and even parts of the second Area71, I feel like all three of them could combine into one awesome interior if blended just right, like having the clean, but populated tubes of entities and dormant Old Birds of the second iteration, the glowing red offices and elevators of the OG, and the open layouts of the current version. I feel like all three of them have something unique about them that when combined, could make for what I feel might be the true insides of the Company building.

[languid bridge]

current iteration is slated to be a combo of 1 & 2

Rosie just doin lots rn

[lofty helm]

Yeah, I know it's not completed

Also, Fs in the chat for Untitled. I swear, I haven't encountered anything out of the ordinary with that moon, minus the doors on all the cabins that just don't get unlocked.

Actually, I did find a pseudo-workaround: UsualScrap's crowbars pop those suckers open in a single hit... even the ones that you wouldn't think you could go inside (like the cabins floating in midair and the gigantic cabins in the distance, those too lol.

@pseudo thistle Would you consider uploading a standalone of Untitled for those of us that would still like it? If not, that's fine. I just can't remember if you got rid of it for thematic reasons, or if it was because of more technical issues.

[haughty forge]

surprised eve isn't deprecated

[hushed carbon]

I also loved the doors

and the lab sector

[haughty forge]

also sector-0 interior still has an icon from the very first version...

[odd sapphire]

Nah those tubes are in the second, too

[haughty forge]

the rest of the room isn't

[pseudo thistle]

haha

Ill fix that eventually

[vapid viper]

@lethal bay no crazy enemies were always spawned right away, rock formations out of wack, very short paths. I've tested it plenty, there's a distinct difference when it's in and flooded vs not.

I only had the Gordion pack installed, not her bundle.

[mental moat]

there's a small part of ||the giant|| passing through the wall on Haul

[pseudo thistle]

already fixed it haha

[mental moat]

and this?

[pseudo thistle]

yup

well, Ill have to test

[mental moat]

perfect then :]

[pseudo thistle]

but I think I did

Didnt realize how obnoxious it was haha

[marble rivet]

||The giant? Do you just mean the forest keeper, or is it something else||

[hybrid fern]

That's what I was talking about and how it made all other audio break

lol

[mental moat]

yes, the ||forest keeper||

[marble rivet]

oh ok

why black it

[mental moat]

spoiler?

[lavish bloom]

Is Cozy office part of one of the sagas, or is it meant to be a standalone thing?

[pseudo thistle]

oh wait, does the gordion saga still have the interior

oops

[lavish bloom]

did you accidentally delete the entire interior?

[pseudo thistle]

no, its supposed to be separate from the moon bundles

with dependancy

[lavish bloom]

Ah... I don't have the standalone and it's been working perfectly for me

[pseudo thistle]

yeah it should, but people voted for the interior to be a dependency rather than bundled into the saga

[lavish bloom]

Thats fair

[raven yarrow]

so confusing

now sector 0 and cozyoffice are seperated? gordion saga doesn't have sector 0?

no gordion saga still has area71

[pseudo thistle]

forgot to remove it

itll be a dependency

[raven yarrow]

alright so I should probably remove cozyoffice and just use rosies interiors to have both then yeah?

[lavish bloom]

Just making sure, for just the raven saga, I need the cozy office mod too?

[calm bough]

old sector 0 my beloved... where are uuuuuuuuuu?????

[pure oasis]

Something is very wrong with Haul after latest patch

The speaker at the main entrance is spamming deafening white noise, and there's so much of it that it's preventing normal sounds from playing, even inside the facility. No footsteps, turret noises, etc.

Console also getting spammed with an error

[pseudo thistle]

im fixing it

[lofty helm]

Do you have LCMaxSoundsFix?

Or does this happen regardless?

[hybrid fern]

Even with LCMaxSoundsFix it breaks

cus that speaker is just spamming such loud audio

[pseudo thistle]

yeah

[hybrid fern]

Cus I have LCMaxSoundsFix in my pack

[pseudo thistle]

Its fixed on my end, JLL configs are just being annoying with the new feature

[hybrid fern]

I mean the good thing is once you get the hang of it it'll get less annoying

:3

[pseudo thistle]

well, its not JLL's fault im just doing something wrong lol

[pure oasis]

thanks much!

[rustic wyvern]

I'm also trying to figure out some stuff haha but its a learning curve

[pseudo thistle]

fair

I just cant get the config to load right

as in the booleans

[rustic wyvern]

shoot me pics what you're trying to do

I might be able to help with it

[pseudo thistle]

ty

[wispy ether]

so the interiors are no longer included just asking since I use the gorgion pack

[pseudo thistle]

yeah, changelog says that

[wispy ether]

K I did check just wanted to make sure

[pseudo thistle]

youll need to download gordionsaga and the corresponding interior

[wispy ether]

checked

[languid bridge]

or the interior pack

.u.

[pseudo thistle]

true

[kindred lion]

I get these errors when I approach the door on the main entrance on Haul.

[pseudo thistle]

does it impact performance?

[kindred lion]

Sound vanishes around the entrance, otherwise it seem to be okay

[pseudo thistle]

hm

Ill look into it

[pure oasis]

this is the same error i was getting spammed combined with the speaker playing deafening noises that broke sound on the entire map

(it’s kind of a funny bug honestly, gave my friends and i a laughing fit)

[pseudo thistle]

speakers are gone though, thats the confusing part

[lethal bay]

They’re too powerful!

[haughty forge]

haul isn't free for some reason?

[sand kite]

Check configs and make sure you check the box to enable the configuration.

[languid bridge]

recent update made it a paid moon iirc

[haughty forge]

ah

[kindred lion]

Yeah there was no speakers there for me at all. But when I approached the door, I began getting the above errors spammed and all sound vanished. It stopped upon going inside.

[lucid frost]

where can i configure prices of some moons?

if there arent any config files

[pseudo thistle]

LLL configs

[lucid frost]

Lethal level loader 🙂

[pseudo thistle]

Sorry I’m sorta busy I’ll let you know later, or maybe someone else can help

[spark burrow]

Here's 2 ways you can configure prices for moons

1. Left is via Lethal Level Loader config

2. Right is via an alternative mod I use known as "LethalQuantities" that lets me edit specific parameters regarding moons (one being routing prices), lil bit of a learning curve to use it but is easier to look at and offers some features that LLL's config lacks (such as editing enemy spawn curves, max enemy counts, and trap count/curves)

For both you wanna boot up any save with the moon(s) you want so that the respective method for either of the two above gets populated with the moon/interior in your pack

I don't have experience with either CentralConfig nor LethalCompanyVariables, but both also let you edit route prices. I'd consult someone else more knowledgeable of those mods if you wanna explore those options

[balmy blade]

centralconfig doesnt need a webpage like LQ, and it works like LLL

its like the best of both worlds, but its up to preference

[spark burrow]

As in, a similar sorta parameter editing setup like LLL's config?

Cause I'll be honest editing enemy & scrap weights in LLL is kinda fugly with that long list, nitpicky of me to say that but I kinda just don't like it lols

[balmy blade]

yup

when you install it and head to configs, you can enable what you want to edit

like you want to only edit time and map size multiplier, you just set it to true

and when relaunching, its gonna be there for you to change

you can also change things like traps, level info and much more

[spark burrow]

I've been wanting to explore it sometime but been way too busy with other stuff + some Lethal burnout going on with me

I'm curious if editing the day/night/indoor spawncurves via CC might get the desired results I want from some moons like Volition

I'm having this weird case where indoor enemies on Volition like, seem to spawn way late in the day, making it too easy for folks at times, I notice stuff really only starts to spawn around 1pm or later even if I edit the spawn curve to be more like say, Titan's, but I can't determine if LQ's at fault or if I need to forward this to Distinct

[plush saffron]

What mod are u using to display the value of your items?

[balmy blade]

i think so?

[pseudo thistle]

just to let people know, Ill be working on fixing bugs and getting the moons/interiors stable but I will be busy working on another project too

[verbal sundial]

ok so i dissapeared for a month and now you have 12 moons?

a whole solar system?

[lofty helm]

Well, 11 now. She removed one pending a rework

[spark burrow]

Still for a decent while it was about 5ish moons

[pseudo thistle]

yeah, I also disappeared for a month lol

then came back with a ton of motivation

[lofty helm]

Is this new project the replacement or Untitled, or even the hangar interior you mentioned once before? Or is it even LC related in the first place?

[pseudo thistle]

not LC related

[lofty helm]

Ah, okay. I still never got an answer to my question regarding exactly why Untitled was removed (and if you'd upload a standalone of it, because I still like it)

[pseudo thistle]

1. I didnt like it and just felt like a very sloppy thrown together moon imo. 2. Probably not until I make it better

[lofty helm]

I kinda feel like it being sloppily thrown together was part of its charm, since everything was kinda floating and weirdly-sized. Though unless I'm missing something, there were no fire exits on it

That was my only gripe with it

[pseudo thistle]

fair

Ill see what I can do with it, but I want to rework the terrain and how the floating objs are set up

[lofty helm]

Was there a story log on Untitled at all? Cause I had been able to find a workaround to opening the locked doors on all the cabins and while it was still in the pack, I never found one. (Actually, I don't think I found any logs in the anomaly moons so far)

Oh, that also reminds me. Do your story logs happen to only appear based on the weather? On Feign, I checked the spot on a new save where the log on that moon would be when it was eclipsed, but it was not there, but I landed again on clear weather, and it was there.

I remember back in the old pack (before you had all the moons in the different sagas), you had the secret logs that would give clues to ||Penumbra||, so I thought maybe there was some kinda latent weather dependency on these other logs, whether intentional or not.

[pseudo thistle]

shouldnt be

[lofty helm]

Huh. When I get a chance, I'll test to see if Feign's log shows up when it's eclipsed. (I'm referring to the log that's tucked away to the right of the main entrance building, facing the side of the shed I mentioned I got stuck in, in the event Feign has more than one log)

[shell flax]

can i get a list of everything that works together and doesnt overlap

Please

if i download the sagas do i download rosies interiors

[crisp mango]

Just download moons and interiors?

[shell flax]

not the sagas?

[fervent summit]

Rosie's moons contain everything, sagas work together and with interiors, don't download standalones if you have sagas or Rosie's moons package, don't download sagas if you have Rosie's moons

[shell flax]

thank you

[stiff creek]

does area71 work with the mimics by chance?

[pseudo thistle]

no clue

[agile river]

nah theres only a few modded interiors that are set up to work with mimics

lc office and scarlet devil mansion are the only ones i think

[ashen pawn]

Gonna try and test scoopy's, cozyoffice, and generic with mimics

[ashen pawn]

After playing on march twice and searching the storehouse, it seems mimics just don't spawn in that interior lol. Dunno an easy way to look for them either since idk if they're an entity or what, but nothing shows on imperium spawns ands I cant seem to manually spawn one

[odd sapphire]

I know they spawn in Scarlet Devil Mansion

But I’m not 100% sure of any other modded interiors

[ashen pawn]

I checked the thread, looks like only the ones listed in config have support cause those dungeons had to be set up a certain way

Would be cool though, if there was a way to implement them like traditional entities somehow, or even traps

[cedar egret]

You have to make sure you have the interior name right

Then turn on max mimics

And the just go into an interior or use free cam to see if they spawn

(They don’t work on CozyOffice and Area71)

[hushed carbon]

almost every interior does not work with mimics

[ashen pawn]

This is a shame

At least they work in vanilla, I'm guessing all 3 vanilla ones anyway

[hushed carbon]

expecially ones with custom fire exits

tho lc office and scarlet mansion

have compat

[cedar egret]

Mineshaft doesn't work

[odd sapphire]

Grand Armory has its own equivalent

[atomic parcel]

Hi is anyone else just.... unable to land on Eden? It just gets stuck at random seed for me

[lofty helm]

Mimics only work on Factory, Mansion, LC_Office, and Scarlet Devil interiors. They will not spawn in any other interior not mentioned here, including the Mineshaft, no matter what you do, it is up to the developers of those interiors to alter their interiors to enable them to spawn within them.

[ashen pawn]

It does? If that's the regular fake doors, I've never been able to interact with them lol

[atomic parcel]

Okaaay I am no longer having this issue? Even though I changed nothing? No idea what that was about.

[odd sapphire]

It has Lurkers

[ashen pawn]

I'll have to look into it

[lofty helm]

@pseudo thistle So I found this in Area71. It's a glitched hallway from the third section of the interior crossing into the second interior. If you walk into it from either direction (i.e. either side of the hallway), you'll get yourself stuck between two one-way walls. Best part is, there was a turret in the section opposite of that wall that can see me but I could not see, so it could still kill me without me being able to do anything about it. Fun!

RETURN OF THE REVENGE OF THE WALL TURRET

[pseudo thistle]

yeah, Im going to be doing some testing here soon

[lavish bloom]

Hey does the teleporter just not work on Feign? Is that a bug or a feature?

(Also whats the dungeon map multiplier for feign?)

[pseudo thistle]

pretty sure its the same as titan, which is 2.2

ill look though

[pseudo thistle]

bug, huh

[lavish bloom]

What happened was the teleport animation played, but I was sort of brought back to the same spot, and invisible to everyone else with all my items on the ground. I didn’t move at first but when I did, they said I “fell from the sky”

[lofty helm]

That's not just me? I mentioned that when I informed Rosie that I managed to get myself stuck in the sunken shed, but it seems all forms of teleportation do not function on that moon for some reason.

[fallow comet]

So I just want to get some help on the cozyoffice, I literally can’t find it anywhere. Which moon does it spawn on are there any specific moons? Thank you very much.

[lethal bay]

Check the LethalLevelLoader config. It has the default values and you can change it.

[tidal haven]

Has anyone had any issues on Haul and Ichor specifically where teleporters don't work? Also, Ichor doesn't seem to have an outside navmesh/node system (forget which Lethal Company uses) - enemies that spawn are unable to move anywhere and just get stuck in place.

[pseudo thistle]

weird

and weird

[pseudo thistle]

Question 1: do you have General Improvements?
Question 2: How does the teleporters not work

Ichor is fixed though

[lavish bloom]

I don’t mind the teleporter not working on Feign, ||maybe something with Halden Electronics is messing it up||, but if that’ll be a feature I think the interior difficulty should be lowered since it’s the same as titan, but condensed

[pseudo thistle]

well, idk why its happening so thats the reason its an issue

[tidal haven]

Yes we have General Improvements, and the teleporter initially brings the person to the ship for everyone but the one being teleported, who doesn’t notice anything on their end. The moment they move after others see them arrive on the ship, they go back to their original location.
So far it’s only happened on Ichor and Haul, though we haven’t rigorously tested the others. Vanilla moons work fine.

[pseudo thistle]

Hm

[tidal haven]

To give a video example, it also occurs when the person is driving - they never left the car from their perspective.

https://youtu.be/FNeVz-wDy2k?feature=shared

[lethal bay]

I wouldn’t think there’s much a moon could do to mess that up. What a perplexing situation.

[tidal haven]

I can try to do more extensive testing soon, see if I can narrow it down at all. I’ll also post the mods we’re using when I can.

[pseudo thistle]

from Lunx I heard GI had some issues regarding compatibility idk with what though

[hybrid fern]

I highly doubt this is moon specific

Probably a mod issue

[tidal haven]

We've only ever experienced it on mods in the Rosie's Moons pack (specifically we have the Raven and Gordion Sagas)

Our modlist hasn't changed significantly since we added the moons either

[pseudo thistle]

why is it always my moons lol

Ill have to do some hierarchy testing with another moon dev

[tidal haven]

My friend and I are going to do more testing tomorrow to see if we can replicate the issue consistently, and to narrow down if it's just on Haul or Ichor or if it's on every moon.
(I only know those two for sure because they're the ones we had the teleporter for)

[lavish bloom]

Hey what does the lever on Haul do

[sullen garnet]

is this normal?

[hushed carbon]

Am I missing something, that just looks like penumbra

[languid bridge]

the ship is in orbit

[hushed carbon]

ohhhh, missed that lol, would be cool if there was some debris in orbit

[languid bridge]

but that will cause issues

unless it's a moon prreview prefab

[hushed carbon]

true

just a thought haha

[tidal haven]

@pseudo thistle I've made recordings of the moons with broken teleporting - which includes Ichor, Haul, and Feign. The video also includes Experimentation and Tunere, to show that the teleporter works on other moons (I tested every other moon in the pack + base game, all but those 3 worked).
Also noteworthy is that the area immediately outside the ship exit on Feign causes extreme lag whenever you're standing there, shown in the video (Feign is the last one shown)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3r4JHf5l4Q

[haughty forge]

why would the moon break teleporting?

[tidal haven]

I didn't show it in the video, but when the teleporter fails on those 3 moons, it does still cause your items to drop at your feet as if you were teleported.

[tidal haven]

I don't know, but those 3 moons specifically aren't working with the teleporter.

[haughty forge]

have you tried testing it with nothing but the moon mods?

[tidal haven]

I'll try a clean mod folder soon, but it'd be strange if there was an incompatibility with only those 3 moons and nothing else

like I said, I tested every other moon, so it's just those three

It isn't consistent on one pack either - Haul and Feign are together in the Raven Saga pack, but Ichor is in the Gordion Saga pack.

also yes, that's worth noting - I'm using the Saga packs, not the individual moon downloads.

[hushed carbon]

wait the sagas packs and not the whole bundle of rosies

[tidal haven]

Yes

Raven and Gordion Saga

[hushed carbon]

just for a quick test may wanna also try the whole rosie moons pack to test for consistancy

[tidal haven]

I'll test that quickly

Okay, can confirm - Rosie's Moon pack still doesn't work for the teleporter, but interestingly the lag bug on Feign isn't present.

So the area around the ship door causes extreme lag on Feign in the Raven Saga pack, but not the Rosie's Moons pack.

Teleporter works on the others, same as before

[tidal haven]

Does Tunere intentionally have an outdoor power of 0?

(LLL config for Tunere)

[balmy blade]

yeah

[heavy ruin]

I'm ngl, I just want to thank Rosie for the moons and interiors. They are awesome

[pseudo thistle]

It is

No collision on anything

[pseudo thistle]

Secret area

[tidal haven]

oh also, on Tunere, there's a potential softlock spot next to the main entrance door, in the fenced-off alley. The player can jump on the barrels to reach the ledge and drop down on the other side of the fence, where there's no way out.
(It's technically possible to get out by jumping against the wall until you get caught on the geometry, getting you high enough to jump back onto the ledge, but that's difficult to do and not obvious for players)

[pseudo thistle]

everyone tries to get over the fence lmao

[tidal haven]

its a very enticing fence

[pseudo thistle]

haha

[hybrid fern]

So since you haven't updated your interiors yet, I noticed if scraps spawn behind the large lamps in Cozy Office they're a bit hard to grab, another issue with Cozy Office is it doesn't work well with the new Duck Song enemy Xu added to CodeRebirth, the Grape always spawns in the basement so if you don't have easy access to get down there you're basically guaranteed to die. From what I understand it's supposed to spawn fairly close to the duck so idk if you need to fix it or if Xu does or what tbh lol

Those are the only 2 issues I know of though with it

Otherwise Cozy is fine

[pseudo thistle]

cozy office is very compact so its probably not xu's fault

[hybrid fern]

Yeah I didn't assume it was

[pseudo thistle]

not sure how to fix that other than redoing the entire interior haha

[hybrid fern]

Although it was funny to have the duck spawn when testing and see the grape spawn under me XD

Yeah I suggested for Xu to add an Interior blacklist config

that'd likely be the easiest

[pseudo thistle]

mhm

[hybrid fern]

Since there's so many variables

[pseudo thistle]

yeah, im going to be working on the sector interior a bit since I dislike some of the things in it

so that takes priority

[hybrid fern]

Yeah for Cozy the only thing I would do is remove the scrap spawns behind those lamps - everything else is fine

Sector definitely needs priority

It was funny having my doll spawn though and struggle to grab it cus the grab spot was so weird

LOL

I was like "I'mma get it"

XD

[pseudo thistle]

thats easy to fix

[hybrid fern]

Ye

[pseudo thistle]

esp because the prefab is sprinkled everywhere

[lethal bay]

Was there anything in the logs about the teleporting? The lag at the front of the ship might be audio reverb trigger related but don’t know about teleports.

Might seem like an odd question but do jetpacks work? I ask because a while back someone had this really weird bug where a bunch of odd stuff was broken and it was something with an audio reverb trigger the ship passes through right at the start of landing. Don’t remember what exactly but I could probably find it.

Here: #dev-moons message

[lavish bloom]

You could put a “No trespassing” sign by that fence, and if players still jump it, then it’s on them

[vast python]

||you cant deliver two handed items from main on penumbra||

@pseudo thistle

well technically you could use an extension ladder to walk up

but, still a problem i think

||also is it always meant to be eclipsed??||

[pseudo thistle]

yes

[pseudo thistle]

I can fix that

[languid bridge]

||outside elevator||

||attached to no scaffolding||

||just the box and buttons||

[pseudo thistle]

Wha

[languid bridge]

||for the Penumbra ladder issue||

[pseudo thistle]

Ahh

I can jusy fix the interact trigger

Super eqsy

[steep aurora]

Unsure if this is the place to ask, summit seems to have loading/lag issues whenever entering the little houses is that just a oersonal skill issue? is there something i can do about it? is it because im running the map on v69 instead of v68?

Nvm theyre gone now

Wtf??

Nevermind sorry

Hype that it works cuz this is probs the sickest lethal map Ive ever played

[lusty heath]

I just inversed through the floor on ichor

Also, love summit, but enemies get really bugged on the elevator

[daring torrent]

@pseudo thistle I believe you forgot to turn on read/write on the terrain mesh for Ichor

not doing that will result in the terrain not being able to have a navmesh written to it and will result in enemies standing still doing nothing

[pseudo thistle]

no it wasnt that

the navmesh data was missing

[daring torrent]

??

[pseudo thistle]

I have yet to actually do in depth testing and changes for the moons and interiors

[daring torrent]

isnt navmesh data auto generated when u land

[pseudo thistle]

not usually

[daring torrent]

like regardless if u bake a navmesh or not

[pseudo thistle]

I dont think so?

[daring torrent]

🤔

i added a bridge to march and enemies were able to path around it without me baking a new navmesh

[pseudo thistle]

hmph

well thats what usually breaks it for me

[daring torrent]

just in case, double check if this is ticked

[pseudo thistle]

ofc

[daring torrent]

in any case, if baking a navmesh fixes it for you, then that's good

just kinda odd cuz the game should be doing that on its own

batby told me that a bit ago

[pseudo thistle]

maybe modded moons are just strange lol

Ill look into it either way

Im just heavily confused on the teleporter issue

[alpine halo]

@daring torrent @pseudo thistle it will regen if you have random spawning outside objects

in general assume it will regen

[pseudo thistle]

ohh

yeah I dont have outside objects

[daring torrent]

ahh

well damn there u go lol

[alpine halo]

it needs a scene bake so it can sample positions

[pseudo thistle]

makes a lot of sense

[alpine halo]

ideally your moon would be considered broken in that regard given that assumption

[haughty forge]

after looking around on ichor for a while with freecam, unity crashed?

it was probably around when outside enemies would start spawning if that matters

also eden feels a bit too green by default, the fog should probably be closer to the color of the vanilla fog which is blueish i think

old bird at 8 am on summit....

on summit, there's a speaker in the elevator but this speaker doesn't actually go with the elevator

i don't think that guy is meant to be there

[haughty forge]

only found three pieces of scrap in a pretty sizable sector-0 interior, the door to the outside section was locked but no key spawned

[lusty heath]

Its odd because the navmesh was there prior at some point.. i think when you consolidated them all into 1 modpack it got lost somehow?

[pseudo thistle]

idk

[haughty forge]

ichor crashed unity again, i think it's an issue with the moon since it was an entirely different modpack

also this probably isn't related to the moon crash but there was a red solo cup on palettes that nobody could pick up so we stopped messing with it for 5 seconds and then it flew away into the ceiling?????

[pseudo thistle]

huh

[vast python]

thats a vanilla game client side desync

when someone picks up an item, sometimes the origin coordinate for it doesnt get altered on clients

if you try to pick it up, it tilts in unnatural ways

when the person who actually has the item drops it, it floats into the air on client screens

heres a video of it happening for rosie to see https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535322369581907988/1297542123062693918/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_5.mp4?ex=676a0505&is=6768b385&hm=e87caddbdd94b8b45851b7418a511263e94364baaac8364b031b1a78aa9fe8c5&

[haughty forge]

what are all the hints for sector-0?

[balmy blade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMWHcTqUcco

[thick steppe]

Is there a master list of the specific moon prices and difficulty and name?

Couldnt find them in the mods description

[agile river]

i get this error everytime a footstep sound is played in the main entrance building on Haul

[08:41:36.0726246] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
EnemyAICollisionDetect.INoiseListener.DetectNoise (UnityEngine.Vector3 noisePosition, System.Single noiseLoudness, System.Int32 timesNoisePlayedInOneSpot, System.Int32 noiseID) (at <b5c9757a4ecc4ee1b8a83c58c3df2def>:IL_0009)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::PlayAudibleNoise(RoundManager,UnityEngine.Vector3,single,single,int,bool,int)
GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.PlayFootstepLocal () (at <b5c9757a4ecc4ee1b8a83c58c3df2def>:IL_007C)
PlayerAnimationEvents.PlayFootstepLocal () (at <b5c9757a4ecc4ee1b8a83c58c3df2def>:IL_0000)

also uh.. this (loud warning)

[agile river]

when this happens it spams this error which ig has something to do with SaveItemRotations
[08:56:20.0110877] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
EnemyAICollisionDetect.INoiseListener.DetectNoise (UnityEngine.Vector3 noisePosition, System.Single noiseLoudness, System.Int32 timesNoisePlayedInOneSpot, System.Int32 noiseID) (at <b5c9757a4ecc4ee1b8a83c58c3df2def>:IL_0009)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::PlayAudibleNoise(RoundManager,UnityEngine.Vector3,single,single,int,bool,int)
EventWhenDroppedItem.PlayDropSFX () (at <b5c9757a4ecc4ee1b8a83c58c3df2def>:IL_018F)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GrabbableObject.DMDGrabbableObject::Update(GrabbableObject)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineGrabbableObject::Update?-851839408(GrabbableObject)
moe.sylvi.SaveItemRotations.Features.SaveRotations+Patches.GrabbableObject_Update (On.GrabbableObject+orig_Update orig, GrabbableObject self) (at ./Features/SaveRotations.cs:338)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookGrabbableObject::Update?-2075568012(GrabbableObject)

[hybrid fern]

Feign also spams ReverbTrigger errors

Rosie is on a bit of a break atm unfortunately so idk when this will get fixed

[agile river]

aw, i hope theyre doing okay

atleast it isnt game breaking, i found the thing with the bell quite funny lol

[hybrid fern]

She's doing fine, she just wanted a break from working on Lethal mods for a bit

She still has to fix the Sector-0 Interior for example

lol

[novel scroll]

What's the forecast of ||Soreal|| and ||Idiosyn||?

[novel scroll]

Another thing: Please fix tulip snakes on ||Soreal|| whenever you get the chance

When tulip snakes drop off from a player, my fps is quite literally shot down to 10 for about five seconds

Mind you my average fps is 120

So this is saying something

[haughty forge]

what are all the hints for sector-0? want to know what and where they are so i can push my friends towards them

[odd sapphire]

I think one’s on Titan?

[novel scroll]

Please... also make ||Idiosyn|| a little brighter, and also probably not change every of its light source's hue to blue

I can't see shit

[heavy ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-fire-elmo-anarchy-blues-gif-25903479

[novel scroll]

It's especially bad /w Zeekerss' vanilla interior fog, and Voxx' solar flare

I don't mind ||Idiosyn|| being dark on the inside, but I do mind it being this flawed

I'm still gonna try to complete an entire quota of ||Idiosyn|| tho

[lusty hull]

ah so sector 0 not having its interior isn't just me issue...

[pseudo thistle]

its broken in a different way

tile bounds issues

I can technically upload the fix

[hybrid fern]

Will it be updated soons? ;o

I think you had some stuff you wanted to do with it first right?

Outside of the fix

[pseudo thistle]

yeah

[hybrid fern]

Also hope to see Haul and Feign get fixed soon since those moons throw some errors

[pseudo thistle]

probably do it tonight since why not

[pseudo thistle]

what types?

[hybrid fern]

Feign throws AudioReverbTrigger errors

Someone recently made a bug report regarding Haul

Lemme find it

[lusty hull]

oh my god..the bell

[pseudo thistle]

yeah im just going to get rid of the giants since thats what is causing it

[hybrid fern]

They said that error was everytime a footstep sound was played

[hybrid fern]

It's pretty funny

XD

[lusty hull]

also is that the exterior or interior i can't tell

[hybrid fern]

Exterior

[alpine halo]

cool wip stylized rosie moons

[novel scroll]

0:10

[hybrid fern]

Might be an issue with that interior

But I could be wrong, I don't recall them lagging anyone like that on there though

[pseudo thistle]

idk tbh

[novel scroll]

Nah

Happens outside too

[hybrid fern]

If you're certain it's the moon @novel scroll you should probably post a log

[novel scroll]

I'll send a log when I reencounter the lag

This is footage from earlier today

I didn't even record it for this bug, just the ULTRAKILL reference in Castellum Carnis

[lofty helm]

That sounds like the distortions of a Super Nintendo game trying to figure out what's going on. (I got massive Contra III vibes, particularly the C weapon)

[last sandal]

is the interior mod spawning the enterior random on every moon or how ?

[jade atlas]

Check LethalLevelLoader in the config if you use Thunderstore.

[odd sapphire]

What Ultrakill reference? nvm I remember

[cedar osprey]

found a crack in cozy office just wanted to lyk

[vast python]

happens with vanilla interiors also

most noticable at mineshaft

[heavy ruin]

what vanilla interior has a crack in it?

and if mineshaft where exactly

[novel scroll]

I've only ever noticed it on Catalyst funnily enough

Catalyst's skybox is just so brightly purple

[vast python]

caves

the reason you dont really see cracks is zeekerss made the skybox just.. black at the bottom

[heavy ruin]

you mean the holes in the caves that are black on bottom?

The pits in other words

[vast python]

no

actually the best place you can see cracks is the manor interior

the foyer always has 2 on the ceiling

[haughty forge]

no, when you enter the interior the sky is made completely black. that's why

[vast python]

ah

[odd sapphire]

Mansion has ‘em too

[heavy ruin]

are they on the ceiling or floor?

Either way on a wall is diff from ceiling or floor since your looking forward most of the time

and a lil bit down

[odd sapphire]

Don’t remember

I think all of the above

[vast python]

@heavy ruin ok its the polygon shifting the game does

when youre standing closer to stuff, they gain more polygons, and lose polygons the further you are

heres some polygons missing from being further away that reveal the skybox

[novel scroll]

Hawalia

TulipDread

[vast python]

but im pretty sure the manors foyer is not this and zeekerss straight up forgot to model around those spots

[wintry gorge]

Nuuuu not the LOD holes!

[cedar osprey]

i can see main on both sides

[pseudo thistle]

im confused

[cedar osprey]

here give me a sec ill record

holy

lemme reupload

so glitchy

[pseudo thistle]

its fine for me

[cedar osprey]

oh

nvm

[ashen pawn]

I had the volume low so I thought the rats was you wheezing 😭

That actually happened to me too though. Dunno if it's intentional but it's not really a huge deal

[cedar osprey]

the round before i massacred the rats

[stiff creek]

do you think you can slightly move those docking things so that the cruiser don't get stuck

with the wider ship mod

[novel scroll]

Tbh, I beg of you just

Increase the brightness of Idiosyn just a bit

Gameplay-wise, eclipsed Idiosyn is horribly dark

[pseudo thistle]

I will

someone else wished the same iirc

[novel scroll]

Thank you, I rlly appreciate that

Idiosyn is rlly well-made aside from that

Oh yeah, semi-bug(?) report for Idiosyn and Soreal

Their dropships play their music as they're landing, not when landed

This is a common issue for almost every custom moon, but it can and has been fixed b4

[pseudo thistle]

weird

[vast python]

@pseudo thistle i know why this happens

its because the gameobject is enabled as its landing

[pseudo thistle]

ah

[vast python]

all of your moons have this issue i believe

[pseudo thistle]

makes sense

I can fix that

[vast python]

can we make a sticker that just says disable the gameobject

[wispy loom]

sorry i dont really know how this mod works but is it supposed to replace the company building or is it an entirely different moon

sorry for bothering

[hushed carbon]

prob best place to ask is #dev-moons

[agile river]

if youre asking about sector-0, its a seperate moon

[wispy loom]

alright thanks so much

[hushed carbon]

I missunderstood, I though you were trying to MAKE a mode like that lol

[wispy loom]

oh its ok lol

[ashen pawn]

Hey Rosie, is there any chance that we may see a bit more ceiling lighting in cozy office someday? I enjoy this interior a lot, but I've noticed that it can be quite dark most of the time. The basement tiles are fine as is imo, I just think more of this would give a neat vibe

[lofty helm]

Idiosyn being dark? Nah. Just install LGU and get yourself night vision goggles. EZ 😎

But in all seriousness, yeah, should definitely be brighter. Maybe not as bright as even vanilla moons since the watching eyes being at max brightness adds to the atmosphere, but shouldn't be near miserable with a pro flashlight

I also saw that the eyes actually act as a sort of an aura that follow the players, keeping their distance, both in and outside. Very clever

[lethal bay]

There is a pin in dev-moons on fixing it for reference if you’d like. The animation rips incorrectly for the dropship and yeah, as Purple said, it enables early. It just needs a keyframe somewhere in the middle where it’s not enabled.

[crude fox]

Does Tunere have any outside AI nodes?
I wanna put something outside via LQ

[verbal sundial]

could you maybe add screenshots to the moon pages in thunderstore? would help me discern what type of interior i want to correspond with them, also i just like having an idea of what a moon looks like beforehand so i can make sure i want to add it without needing to constantly open the game

[ashen charm]

Sorry, meow, but the Lethal Company Modding server doesn't support looking for groups anymore! Please use another Discord server such as the Unofficial Community to find games, thank mew!

[verbal sundial]

good try pawsy

[verbal sundial]

nvm i might be dumb, i was looking at the moons in thge anomaly thingy

[lusty heath]

by default i dont think tunere has outside power

[fervent summit]

this is true

there is no outside power on tunere

it does have ai nodes though, because spiders that spawned outside (from a session i played with brutal company) can still navigate

[haughty forge]

tunere has no outside enemies???? not even eyeless dogs???

[still panther]

Hey there folks ! first of all thank you Rosie for all the fun ! I really love the feeling of your moons, the details like the logs. I am esepecially in love with Sector-0 and its interior. Sadly I'm not able to go into it since a while. I managed to bind certain moons with your new Area-71 (I think it fits well on offense, assurance and experimentation), but when I change the config in levelloader, no moons go to the laboratories 😦
Did I need to go on a past version where there wasn't Area-71 ? I love having specific moons going through specific interiors and I really miss laboratories for Sect-0 and Thank you all a lot for any future answers 🙏

[unique socket]

did you tick "enable content configuration" in the lll config for that interior

that's uh

an important first step

[still panther]

yeah

[unique socket]

🤔

dunno then

[still panther]

I guess it's about the mess I've made there ?

[unique socket]

Mod names is for specifically adding weights for the entirety of a certain mod's moons

Manual level names seems fine but i don't see the moons you mentioned wanting to add it to in there

[still panther]

So maybe I just remove what I've put in Manual Mod Names List ?

[unique socket]

Yeah

With how manual level names is set the interior should spawn like crazy in sector-0, titan and tunere

[still panther]

This is the config for Sect-0 laboratories, not Area-71, which works for me

[unique socket]

??? area-71 is the sector-0 interior though?

[still panther]

Yeah I want the lab there

[unique socket]

ah

right

If you want extra confirmation once you're ingame that it's working you can try running lll's simulate command on the ship terminal with the moons you're trying to put the interior on

[still panther]

Yeah I'm referring to the sect-0 interior, the one with the vat tubes and old birds

[unique socket]

Should tell you every interior that can generate, and percentage chances they spawn

[unique socket]

old birds
since when does area-71 generate old birds

i'll admit i haven't been on that interior much at all

so i could be missing smth

[still panther]

No no, there is Old birds IN the sect-0 facility, they are just decoration (they do some of their noises tho)

[unique socket]

ohhh

i see

that does sound pretty cool

[still panther]

didn't undertood what you're saying tho

[unique socket]

oh uh

hang on

[unique socket]

You can run "simulate sector0" (or simulate whatever moon name) in the ship terminal and it'll basically tell you what interiors can spawn on the moon

• percentage chances

[still panther]

Oh @pseudo thistle also when you'll see this, the room in Cozy Office that have computers, glasses and simantled turrets never have any loot, a bit sad cause I love that room but if it's locked I won't want to go in it cause nothing to have

[still panther]

Dismantled turrets *

[unique socket]

to show it with another moon i play on sometimes

[still panther]

Ohhhh that's very nice ! I'm gonna try it right now !

I need to try Slaughterhouse, looked fun

[unique socket]

Yeah it's cool

This was off a lighter modpack I have with a friend, i've played with bigger packs that'll have longer lists for running simulate most likely

Picked it so I wouldn't take as long to load in

[still panther]

that's a cool trick to test mods for sure, thanks !

[unique socket]

There's other mods that'll cut out elements of startup, and i'm pre sure one exists for instantly loading into a save

[still panther]

You mean making the game load faster ?

[unique socket]

as in like

I think generalimprovements has the option to instantly load either online or lan, skipping that entirely

as well as skipping the lil "pc booting up" bit

The game will still take a bit to load those are just for getting ingame faster

But generalimprovements also does like a morbillion other things

[still panther]

Yeah I just looked up and my Sect-0 doesn't have the interior I'm looking for :<

[unique socket]

🤔 strange

what does it look like, what were you expecting

[still panther]

I'm expecting it to have "Sector-0 Interior" and that one only

It's just the way I written it in the config, it has to be it

[unique socket]

Oh

I guess it's because under the config the moon has its own internal weights for the vanilla interiors

I assume in case area-71 isn't installed

Which

The interior will and should be called area71 that's normal and expected

[still panther]

Again, they are two clear seperate interiors

I don't want 71 for sect-0 :p

[unique socket]

???? i'm getting confused

71 literally IS the sector 0 interior

Are you thinking about something else?

[still panther]

hang on

[unique socket]

From your mention of old birds

you MIGHT be thinking of grand armory from wesley's interiors

Which I know for a fact has those

(and they can wake up and become active depending on config)

[still panther]

Nope, different

[unique socket]

🤔

Do you have like. a photo or something?

[still panther]

This is Sector 0 interior

[unique socket]

Hmm

Maybe this was an older version of the interior

I wouldn't know I haven't seen how it used to look

I wouldn't be surprised if it changed

[still panther]

71 is either way enormous ceilling, like big warehouse, or little corridors