Biodiversity - Expanding upon LC's fauna and their relationship with their habitats.

[cobalt turret]

Hopefully that doesn't become a new normality in the RP scene..

[woven snow]

it is

[cobalt turret]

Well if it was generally crossing the border then it would actually contain something NSFW. However the joke only beholds the word NSFW which translates to 'Not safe for work', which is a safe term used for themes revolving around that sector. So Masa doesn't see how Masa actually crosses the border with that. Though Masa doesn't want to argue about this in particular, especially since Masa has seen much worse than Masa's joke here 😅

[cobalt turret]

That sucks. Creativity is the whole purpose behind making a story. Now the AI does it for you? Blegh.

[still cloud]

lets just agree to disagree 👍

[cobalt turret]

Fair enough by Masa.

[tight moat]

I think the "hey if we get enough emotes we make a NSFW update" is the line that walks it up to the edge, and anyone furthering it from there brings it over the edge into "ok dial it back we don't gotta continue this" territory

and the fact that the first line invites the follow-ups ends up being the issue

[woven snow]

cult of the lamb did it

why biod wont

[dull needle]

believe it or not, bioD doesnt own this server, they cant change the rules to make a stupid feature

[dawn flicker]

Also several concepts we have on our own dev server is not / not yet accepted. We do welcome ideas but theres a procedure for approval of them too.

For example one of my spider variant is also scrapped cuz it does not fit in the biod theme.

[sage mauve]

I hope it never gets approved. (?

[dawn flicker]

yeah imma post it in the mod-ideas tbh later when biod batch1 is out

[wanton axle]

hey anyone know a mod that lets you stay on a planet as long as you want without the ship leaving

[dawn flicker]

maybe someone would like to make it

[wanton axle]

currently the only one i have found makes it so time does not progress at all but i would like for it to be able to become night

[dawn flicker]

I'd recommend askin in #modding-general or #general-chat but afaik theres no mod like that currently

[tight moat]

I think one does exist

[wanton axle]

really whats it called

[tight moat]

idfk I just think I've seen one before

[wanton axle]

oh ok

[wanton axle]

alright

[fathom spire]

awww damn i thought we did

[dull needle]

sorry that upgrade is at 3999 reactions

[fathom spire]

GET TO WORK, FELLAS!!

also GOD DAMN 107???

WHEN

WHAT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1221642408970948620/1232094684315385856/ezgif-3-28f82d5ddd.gif

[fossil wraith]

@fathom spire

[fathom spire]

?

[dull needle]

that does sound pretty nice

what would it be for though

[fossil wraith]

sound for a cloudy day

song*

[fathom spire]

oh yeah forgot you did tunes, this is cute!

[dull needle]

those are really nice

i wish i could think of a place to put em tbh

[amber shore]

Hi. Hi there. Would it be okay if I suggested a bracken variant? Totally fine if you don't use it just wanted to put it out there lol

[dawn flicker]

Feel free to do so!

we are welcoming ideas!

[dull needle]

They hate ideas, this is a ploy to ban you

[dawn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/home-alone-home-alone-2-suck-brick-kid-gif-14088950014171296196

[fathom spire]

this is a good place to make suggestions yeah! go right ahead

[amber shore]

Okie!! Here goes lol

The Tangle

A bracken variant that resides in pits under those jumps you have to make. You can only see their eyes down there, and shining a light on them doesn't illuminate anything. If they see you above them they will lash out with a vine and try to pull you down to eat you. If you stay above the Tangle for too long (standing on the bar or making the jump, maybe around 3 seconds) it'll grab you and pull you down into the pit, consuming you and preventing your team from teleporting you back. However, if you drop a scrap into the pit, it'll be occupied with that and will leave you alone for the rest of the day.

Doesn't really have a lot of physical traits, as you never really see it, but I envision it as a ball of viney tendrils (sorta like a tangela from pokemon) but with bracken legs and arms wrapped in vines, and glowing white eyes.

Once again, just an idea I had literally like an hour ago lol, feel free to add it if you would like ^^

[ocean verge]

heres a funni thumper idea

give him L E G S

ok in all seriousness Im actually terrified of the idea of a thumper walking up to me with legs

[dawn flicker]

🤭

[fathom spire]

don't tell them chat

[dawn flicker]

🙊

[storm whale]

Has anyone made this a mod yet? If so, could we like pin it or something?

[dawn flicker]

Its in progress with 19 (!) people in the works :3

[dull needle]

you're not gonna get a mod to pin a released mod into mod ideas lol

[dawn flicker]

Also true

[fathom spire]

this is really interesting! I like it

[amber shore]

:00 thank you!!

[shut badger]

this is pretty catchy

[dusky vortex]

Please tell me this is a joke

[dull needle]

Don't start again pls

[dusky vortex]

My fault

It was auto scrolled up

Because new message notifs

[dull needle]

Kill discord

[woven snow]

It has a vibe that sounds like the one from the start of the game

like if it was introducing it all to you

[woven snow]

How's that music called?

[woven snow]

🧱

[tight moat]

This really doesn't feel like a bracken variant

If anything it's like, an earth leviathan variant

Big ol' pit-worm

[amber shore]

That would also be cool!!

[dawn flicker]

🤭

[still cloud]

i have an idea, there is luigi, you and luigi will catch the new ghost enemies

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

https://tenor.com/view/shut-the-hell-up-luigi-knee-surgery-smosh-running-gif-26097706

https://tenor.com/view/damn-rainy-spongebob-cafe-cup-of-coffee-gif-975216890429859696

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-oh-whose-dumb-idea-was-that-stupid-idea-whose-idea-was-that-gif-26054523

https://tenor.com/view/its-mine-lotr-golem-my-precious-sméagol-gif-14477595

https://tenor.com/view/guh-huh-luigi-mario-luigi's-mansion-gif-5485443247104785456

[fathom spire]

TRUEE

[still cloud]

soon

im making a luigi mansion interior

i already started

[fathom spire]

that's gonna be so insane

looking forward to it heheheh

[grizzled belfry]

oo nice

i need to make more ghosts then 😃

[still cloud]

oo bet, i would love more luigi mansion inspired ghost, like the harp is inspired by from thr boo

[grizzled belfry]

ye my ghosts are heavily inspired by luigis mansion, its jus the models are shit cuz I can't model and I can animate but it took me 2 days quite literally to do a shotgun reload animation sooo

[still cloud]

It looks really nice imo

[grizzled belfry]

well yea they are alr but they are missing loads of animations, a mouth, way better shader, more models in general

[still cloud]

I think the model is fine, the texturing could be slightly better than flat white

[grizzled belfry]

still tho like the enforcer for example is supposed to look mean but its just a slightly bigger normal ghost

like this guy

and then I cant model or animate that so hes a bigger ghost with a shotgun instead 💀

[dull needle]

We all learn at our own paces :3, I barely know much but I think my giants were decently animated at first

U just gotta force yourself to watch them tutorials lol

[grizzled belfry]

true

I aint doing modelling tho thats just like... would take me a decade to become decent

iz what it iz

[still cloud]

You could just use a model of that guy

[grizzled belfry]

there aren't any, the one i use is the closest i've found to a luigis mansion type ghost with animations

[ancient blaze]

How is this mod coming along?

[dull needle]

Badly

Lead concept maker monty

Has died in a car accident

We've been grieving for a while

Sometimes you can still hear his voice

[fathom spire]

oops sorry lemme delete that

oooo~ I'm dead ddd d

boycott giant specimeeeeeeeens ~~~

[dull needle]

He died with such uncompleted desires his soul has a burning rage for hate

His only wish was to do work for giant specimens and he couldn't fulfill it

[fathom spire]

exactly, I hate hate

[fathom spire]

sadly the modeller is very stinky and doesn't have the UVs as a separate file... Alas monty the great shall never work on giant specimens..

[dull needle]

I didnt even know youncould have UV's on separate files LOL

[fathom spire]

also either me or meatball will texture it through substance painter cuz the UVs are really stanky, sorry xu goat

[dull needle]

I dont think it actually matters how u texture it lol

Just no touching the mesh

Ain't trynna reanimate it

[fathom spire]

nah LMAO but one method I'm familiar with and the other I'm not

anyway

[fathom spire]

pretty good! figuring out some roadblocks when it comes to animating but overall pretty good!!

[sacred ferry]

i could help with that... ahahaaha.....

[grizzled belfry]

oo ye sure, ill accept any help lmao

not rn tho cuz im doing other mods but ye

[sacred ferry]

yeye lol

id be happy to do a like ghost model or two for the mod cus ive always been a fan of ur mod lol

[grizzled belfry]

ty 😀

[dull needle]

👀

[grizzled belfry]

definitely not biodiversity

😉

[dull needle]

Damn

One day you'll help a real quality mod

[grizzled belfry]

😢

[sacred ferry]

Not biotastic...

[dull needle]

:3

[dawn flicker]

you want to get bricked?

https://tenor.com/view/mr-vmb-dit-o-brick-shot-gif-18356367

[fathom spire]

oh Figo, you beautiful man who codes my mod

[grizzled belfry]

😳

[hushed basalt]

I love modelling

[dawn flicker]

and we love u :3

[hushed basalt]

[fathom spire]

BEAT ME TO IT

we love you very much misto-san!!!

[amber shore]

hhi. hello there. could I perchance bother you guys for how you got the nutcracker model 👀 ive been trying to find one but i cannot 😔

[sacred ferry]

@graceful fractal figured out how to like export models and rigs from the game and got a few of the enemy models including the nutcracker ripped

[dawn flicker]

Assetripper

I think thats the name of it ?

[sacred ferry]

i think

[dawn flicker]

But the entities are deformed / not scaled properly

[sacred ferry]

yea lol the like butler is like squished for some reason

[dawn flicker]

The wide putin meme comes in mind tbh

https://tenor.com/view/wide-vladimir-putin-russian-walking-gif-17506944

[fathom spire]

Ccode can give you it, I think he has it on hand!

[amber shore]

Yay thanks!!

Ccode if you ever check this chat could you possibly give the model to me 👀

[still cloud]

use nom boms asset ripper

[still cloud]

@grizzled belfry I just realized

Cool heads are basically boos

From Mario

[graceful fractal]

Here you go. Also has the rig and anims. textures are embedded

[amber shore]

Omigosh thank you so much!!

[graceful fractal]

np

[grizzled belfry]

whats a cool head?

[sacred ferry]

think they meant the coil heads lol

[tight moat]

Variant coilhead that only spawns on snowy moons

[dawn flicker]

also wears sunglasses for some unknown reason

[still cloud]

its a variant of the coil head for v50

One of the betas

[grizzled belfry]

oh

[fathom spire]

true my dad is zeekers

[sacred ferry]

v51 leak ?!?! 🤯

[still cloud]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1235068831186161747

[still cloud]

It was for v50 beta

[dawn flicker]

Lmao

[dawn flicker]

Wait there was something like that in beta???

Or youre just messing with me

[dull needle]

They're messing

[chilly galleon]

This thread gives me hope

[dawn flicker]

i want to see this closed... || and to see a new mod-release thread ||

[chilly galleon]

Like
If I'm getting this right
A person had a really cool idea with really cool art and people just showed up to make it
What the hell?

That's awesome

I envy

[dawn flicker]

yeah

we added to it, brainstormed together on some and modified / revamped them

[chilly galleon]

I wish I could just manifest modders by having banger ideas

[dawn flicker]

i mean if you have banger ideas you can do it!

[chilly galleon]

I do

[dawn flicker]

i also had a couple of my ideas made :3 latest one was #1223030163860750387 and i actually started to work on adding stuff to it and not just the idea :p

[chilly galleon]

But my mind is either a barren wasteland or I have a banger idea

[chilly galleon]

I have no other states

[dawn flicker]

yeah i feel ya

[chilly galleon]

I also only do 2D art and can somewhat do game design and not just shit random ideas so unfortunately I'm barely useful

[dawn flicker]

2D art is great!

if you have proper 2D art modellers can make stuff so much faster

[chilly galleon]

For that there has to be a modeler

[hushed basalt]

draw something so I can model it I'm bored

[chilly galleon]

HOLY SHIT

Does that just fucking happen here

[dawn flicker]

yeah Mist is actually a goat

VectorV if you have a mod idea tag me and Mist in the thread and lets continue the talk there

[mint dew]

wait… could one tame a light bug by using a laser pointer/flashlight?

Also i frickin love this

[dawn flicker]

well Monty is not online today and i dont know if i can really talk about light bug, so I'll just say light bug has a finalized concept BUT if coding wise there are some things that need to be changed we will revamp the idea.

[mint dew]

ah ok

Btw I’m too lazy to make concept art but hear me out:
THE HORNED HOUND:
A species of the Eyeless dog, this beast has several horns on its forehead to stab its prey. Whenever it hears something too suspicious, it lunges forward and attempts to stab it. Its horns can be broken off of it by hitting the hound enough times or by making it ram into a wall enough times. The horn drops as a relatively high-value item - but beware as the dog will become more annoyed than ever and will now lunge at every little thing.

[dawn flicker]

this is a very nice idea but it defo would need tweaks tbh it looks simple but it's a harder thing to model, animate and code 😅

i like the idea btw!

[mint dew]

thx, ye i realize that now, im just spitballing ideas (for example, what’s would happen if the hound gets one shot by like an Easter egg or smth? Does it drop the horn?)

[dawn flicker]

for sho! ideas are always welcome!

[fathom spire]

I KNOW RIGHT??? I'm living the fucking dream here lmao

[fathom spire]

you too can achieve biodiversity levels of luck !!! nevah give up!!!

[fathom spire]

with Mist yeah LMAOO

[fathom spire]

Esentially! they're already fully passive so basically with a laser pointer you'd just be able to lead em wherever you want

[fathom spire]

Hrmm.... I actually think I could incorporate the horn drop thingy into one of our backlog variants, It's even an eyeless dog so it could work out!

The one I'm talking about also has horns in its design, but they're closer to a carnotaurus

carnotaurus are fucking awesome 🚬

[dawn flicker]

so true

[sacred ferry]

make em chase the dot around like cats

[fathom spire]

LMAO that's basically what it'll be like

[tight moat]

Leading light bugs into eyeless dogs as distractions

[sacred ferry]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[still cloud]

yes

[dawn flicker]

🧢

[still cloud]

i can show you the game files if you need it lol

[dawn flicker]

I need pictures 👀

[fathom spire]

the main purpose is to lead them into landmines 🧡

[sacred ferry]

if theyre so drawn to light wouldnt they run over them by themselves since they blink red every few seconds

[fathom spire]

that was the initial intention yeah

but I ended up deciding to not do that cuz they'd just kill themselves all the time

[mint dew]

uhhh wait.

Are they attracted to..

ALL artificial light?…

Including landmine flashes and turret beams?…. Ruh roh XD

[mint dew]

[fathom spire]

THAT was what I originally intended though I later realized it would make them kill themselves half the time

and you'd never get to actually do anything with them other than find their corpses

which is too sad for this little guy LMAO

[mint dew]

Ye thats what i was thinking XD

However, this will make the apparatus a much more interesting scrap to take since not only is it a light source by itself, but it also removes all the other light sources in the facility

Can the bugs recognize that turning off lights is your doing? Can they tell if you mess with a fuse box or the app?

[fathom spire]

well that you'll have to find out when they come out heheh

[mint dew]

fair enough XD

[fathom spire]

if you're interested in them I wrote a bit about their evolutionary origin, should probably write about the other variant's origin and stuff but I do not feel like writing much today loool

[mint dew]

That’s fair

Wait custom bestiary entries??

Sick

[fathom spire]

oh yeah that's a given

though this one's more just a lore thing that'll eventually be added to the Biodiversity Encyclopedia

(pinned in the thread btw)

[mint dew]

btw i was thinking of a coil-head variant (mostly a situational hazard)
The Coil-Glove
(the text below is a very prototype bestiary entry)
Sigurd’s Danger Level: 10%
Coil-gloves, also known as spring-boxers, are a subspecies of the coil-heads and appear to be mannequins with no head and springs with gloves for arms. Just like coil-heads, these creatures are presumed to be artificially made biological weapons, but any attempt to dissect or study them has led to the specimens self-destructing.

The coil-gloves appear to be stationary when observed, but when no one is directly watching them, they sprint towards a target, punching them with the gloves and knocking them far away.

-=-=-=-

Essentially, these guys deal ~15 damage and are mostly there to make your life annoying - they punch you back quite a bit (sometimes even making you take fall damage) which can prove deadly near landmines, turrets, enemies, etc. The coil-gloves try to punch you into said obstacles whenever possible and are especially deadly in the main entrance room as they will punch you straight into the ceiling fan (which you instantly die from as of v50).

[mint dew]

ahhh that’s pretty cool actually

[tight moat]

Making me imagine a coilhead variant called the Spring Chicken

[chilly galleon]

Was the thought process behind this "what if reverse coilhead?"

[tight moat]

It's not a reverse coilhead lol

[chilly galleon]

Yes it is

Coil heads have no arms and head on a coil

Coil gloves have no head and arms with coil gloves

[tight moat]

Ok in that regard sure but mechanically it's the same

That feels pretty intuitive to me

Visually different at a glance

[sacred ferry]

this is actually hilarious we need to have this

although probably needs abit tweaking cus you can deal with it the exact same as you would a regular coil head (by just looking at it)

[tight moat]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/R9Fo52T7CTk/mqdefault.jpg

[sacred ferry]

FR

have you seen those like wipeout courses with the boxing gloves coming out of holes in the wall what if he was just covered in holes and the boxing gloves came out of those

[mint dew]

Spring goose carrying butler knife XD

[mint dew]

To some extent, but it was more toying around with the “spring” idea

I mean think about it - coil-heads just use springs in their designs, they don’t even use them functionally like

[mint dew]

true

Wait what if it punched entities towards you XD

that’s such a stupid idea but now i cant get the thought of a thumper lunging at me like a Roxy jumpscare out of my head

[chilly galleon]

Yes they do

When they stop it go boioioing

[mint dew]

Again, that’s more aesthetics

[chilly galleon]

Boioioioing

[mint dew]

Like, if coils used springs to lunge at you or smth then ok

But regular coil-heads currently have springs to be recognizable and not rip off weeping angels XD

[mint dew]

facts 🗣️ 🗣️

[fathom spire]

imagine this thing with starlancer escape

me when I abuse the glove head smack to get to the ship quicker

[chilly galleon]

Hello Mr. Biodiversity

My thread is not immediately receiving crazy amounts of attention so I'll do the only logical thing. Whine and cry in YOUR thread because I'm jealous

With best regards. VectorV

WAAAAAAH

[dawn flicker]

i swear i'll get to it i've been just busy with something 😅

[fathom spire]

hello it is I biological montgomery of biodiversity fame

[chilly galleon]

This isn't about you it is about the PUBLIC

[dawn flicker]

public comes where i go ||/jk||

[chilly galleon]

Nice to meet you, biological montgomery of biodiversity fame, I am Direction And Magnitude The Fifth

I will now proceed to whine and cry as I promised

WAHHHHHHHHHHH PEOPLE WON'T GO CRAZY OVER THE HARVESTER IMMEDIATELY WAHHHHH

[fathom spire]

where thread

https://tenor.com/view/malcolm-in-the-middle-hal-malcolm-in-the-middle-walter-white-son-you-know-theres-no-going-back-once-you-start-gif-24814440

[chilly galleon]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1235646530967306280

Havrester

[mint dew]

Some concept art for y’all to gnaw on

Ig

[fathom spire]

holy fucking shit LMAO

melee old bird 🔥

[chilly galleon]

Ultrakill ahh monster

[dawn flicker]

I LOVE THAT

[mint dew]

I’m imagining when you die to it, you get decapitated like with the ghost girl

[worldly robin]

Your body should get split in two

[mint dew]

that would be pretty sick actually

[tight moat]

Would that be an old woodpecker or an old beaver?

Because the base robot is just old bird, not a specific kind of bird

[pure ridge]

long-ways

[tight moat]

It would probably be easier to use the decapitation corpse since it already exists

[fathom spire]

I read this out of context and coming from you it was a terrifying threat

[worldly robin]

LOL

[graceful fractal]

This would be awesome

[snow peak]

it would be cool if there was different behavior too, for example what i am thinking is that the higher span of baboon halks the higher chance of a camouflaged eyeless dog, instead of attacking immediately they will hide with their camouflage and attack at the right moment (the representation shows what they would look like on vow or march, they will look different on rocky and icy moons)

"ho ho ho merry Christmas" ah color scheme

[mint dew]

That’s what i was thinking, yeah

[mint dew]

“Your body should get split in two… NOW!” lightning flash

[mint dew]

Wait a dog that camouflages itself is kinda awesome actually

[snow peak]

Thanks

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-coffee-gif-1855127371289494453

[mint dew]

good point actually, but this guy can fly like the regular old birds soooo idk

[tight moat]

right

hm

[snow peak]

Old pelican

😎

[snow peak]

When it attacks a forest keeper it should just beat the shit out of it with the saw

[mint dew]

deforestation go brrrrr

[drifting valve]

are you chill with getting added to the silly quotes :3

[worldly robin]

lmao

sure

[dawn flicker]

I love how its only Monty

[fathom spire]

I'm just that funny

[dull needle]

lol what are those quotes for

[dull needle]

ah

[snow peak]

made a variant for rocky moons (like experimentation, assurance, and offence)

[dull needle]

i like the teeth

[snow peak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

Having some fire garlic knots rn 🗣🔥🔥

[mint dew]

yo sickkkk

Alright people, i have an idea for a game mechanic, but there are several entities i can attribute it to

[mint dew]

Basically, an entity kidnaps you and drags you away like that one bracken mod.
Possible enemies:

The Businessman (butler variant)
A Butler, but with a suit, tie and briefcase. When a Businessman approaches, he does some kind of idle pose (not sure what it could be, maybe flipping through a checklist or just mopping the floor). However, when a player is left alone, the Businessman shoves the player into its briefcase and flees. The player can see a small sliver out of the briefcase, but other players will have no direct way to tell that you’re inside of it apart from hearing you.
The player’s voice will sound muffled just like when a Snare Flea latches onto you. The Businessman walks quickly, but slows down depending on how heavy you are (you DO retain all your items upon getting kidnapped, so with a couple shotgun shots you could blast the briefcase open or smth maybe idk).
The Businessman flees as far as it can from the capture scene before freeing you in order to kill you (with a knife or pistol, I’m not sure).

The Nettle (bracken variant)
The name “nettle” is a play of words - nettles are a plant, and this creature weaves a net out of vines to throw onto unsuspecting players and drag them away. Again, the speed at which a Nettle can drag you away depends on your weight since you do not drop your items upon getting caught - a couple knife swings and you’re free (but the Nettle will get angry and attack you). If you don’t escape or your fellow employees don’t free you, you are dragged to a faraway room and killed there.

Also maybe nutcracker variant:
The Cowboy
Lassos you to pull you closer to have a better chance of shooting you in the head with a revolver. The Cowboy uses a “”horse”” to get around, so be careful not to get trampled on (just like how a regular nutcracker can kick you, but not an instakill)

[hearty eagle]

Perfect for sfdeast's moon Celest lol

[snow peak]

you mind if i make concepts?

[mint dew]

go ahead (but share your ideas w/ me i wanna hear them)

these concepts are pretty broad - i didnt go into much detail about how the entities function other than how they kidnap you

I also imagined a bracken variant that uses thorned vines to stab you and ensnare you, might draw concept art for it but dont feel like it rn tbh

[sacred ferry]

i like the cowboy one but mostly just because i had a idea once of a nutcracker with a like dumb little mechanical horse it rides around on lol

[snow peak]

i thinking of a tired expression when they are with more than 2 player, and a lanky sort of build for the businessman with simularity to the nutcracker in a way

[clear flare]

sex

[snow peak]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-coffee-gif-1855127371289494453

[clear flare]

sex

[snow peak]

my drawing pad bugged out but this is the current concept i have

[mint dew]

yoooo that looks pretty sick

[snow peak]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-coffee-gif-1855127371289494453

[mint dew]

GUYS I JUST GOT AN IDEA

So i was looking at the tin soldier

And i realised that he had a Gatling gun

And that there’s a crank you gotta turn to power it

Crank??? Yunno what else uses a crank????

[rose pecan]

No way

[mint dew]

Ill give u a hint

It starts with a j

And ends with ester

[rose pecan]

Woah

[mint dew]

my take on the tin soldier (not 100% done yet and not labeled)

Features:

• welding mask as a face
• the Gatling gun (with a Jester colour pattern because it has a crank and i was feeling silly)
• a shield
• a body and hat made of tin cans and other rusty scrap metal

[amber shore]

Bro took my original welding mask idea 😔

[fossil wraith]

fucked up tin man from wizard of oz

[dawn flicker]

wow nice!

[snow peak]

finished

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-coffee-gif-1855127371289494453

[fossil wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26293399

[snow peak]

😔

[fathom spire]

holy damn that's a really interesting take

apocalypse looking fellow

I do have art of the tin turret enemy it's just not 100% finalized (it's about 99% finalized though lmao)

the approach is very different but yours is really really sick

[fathom spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798015824002547731/1236156680899919944/facebook_1714793087990_7192363508129979349.jpg?ex=6636fc1f&is=6635aa9f&hm=8d56e92e8c0488d137a6c58800bd72337512268bdef1944f645e76c8cb64cfec&

@tight moat

[tight moat]

yeah

do something about it

[fathom spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/451580047959261184/1116303047296024667/youtube-video-gif.gif

[drifting valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602207979105681451/1236185543730270249/image0.gif

[mint dew]

YOOOOO this looks sick!!! As you said the briefcase could be a lil bigger but apart from that damn this looks good

[mint dew]

thank u :)

[chilly galleon]

and why he jestor

[snow peak]

Idk

[snow peak]

fixed the suit case

[woven snow]

when cheese enemy

[mint dew]

niiiice

[mint dew]

now that im thinking about it, a thumper with this idea would be better

call it the ✨ bumper ✨

[mint dew]

OKAY i was thinking about this idea and i came up with something
What of the businessman actually doesn’t have any method of killing you directly and he tries to dispose of the player through… “other” means?

The Bussinessman doesn’t want the other players to think that one of their fellow employees has been kidnapped, so they have “priority ratings” for the different ways to kill you - depending on the rating, the businessman is more or less likely to do that method of executing you (which btw kinda makes them assassins XD)

The ways a Businessman can kill you include:

• Throwing you into the Mansion fireplace (high priority, but only if said room is far enough from the last place it saw the other players - you die of burning)
• Throwing you into the main entrance fan (low priority, seeing as main is a pretty high-traffic area)
• Throwing you onto a landmine (very low priority, hearing something go BOOM will probably arouse suspicion in the other players)
• Throwing you under a spike trap (medium priority)
• Throwing you into the pits on the facility layouts (low priority, they dislike completely getting rid of your corpse)
• maybe a few others i haven’t thought of

The Bussinessman will avoid throwing you in front of other entities because they prefer to do the business themselves for reasons one can only speculate about.

The Nettle on the other hand just drags you to a faraway room, kills you and hangs the net from the ceiling or smth

[fossil wraith]

monster that rapes ypu

[frigid hound]

wtf

[fossil wraith]

what

[fathom spire]

this is sick! I don't recall if one of the eyeless dog variants had camouflage but i'll see about adding it to one of em

[tall sapphire]

???

[fathom spire]

works well since they're mostly hunters

[fallow nest]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-horrors-beyond-our-comprehension-low-tier-god-mods-banned-gif-8530537273735940092

[tall thistle]

maybe the wax soldier would instead wield a sabre?

[ocean flame]

half life 1 alpha already did this

[tall thistle]

"she is such a bad bitch though!"

[fathom spire]

that'd just be jawtrap's fencer

while wax soldier is inspired by the fencer I'm not 1-1'ing him lmao

also wax soldier's weapon is already modelled

[tall thistle]

oh.

i did not know

he owns a musket for scrap defense just as the company intended

[chilly galleon]

what in the fuck is that

[snow peak]

Yippee

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-coffee-gif-1855127371289494453

[fossil wraith]

which one of them would play this

[worn python]

having read the concept, I thought at first that it might fit a Jester variant more, with its whole boxing glove gag, but I could see a Hammerhead Thumper or a Triceratops-like Thumper headbutting players maybe working as well

[ocean flame]

i had a silly idea

a creature that attaches itself to the roof and dangles its rope like tongue above a peice of scrap

whenever someone tries to pick up the scap the creature will wrap its tongue around the neck of the player and hang them until they die

you can bait them by throwing eggs at its tongue or dropping a large heavy object under it

once it has something it will no longer be a threat

[fossil wraith]

that's not silly

[snow peak]

Very silly

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-monkeys-grooves-moves-gif-16353493

[tight moat]

includes the bayonet

[fathom spire]

did some sick texture work today, congrats fellas for 120 reactions!!

seems like ogopogo might be the first fella to release 😉

[sacred ferry]

hooray !!

pogotastic

[fathom spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540804816524410911/1232106254386855987/speed.gif

[mint dew]

haha yes

[mint dew]

bait it by throwing a stun grenade real

btw it’s getting kinda difficult to track all the different entities, is there somewhere i can look where i can see a list (ik theres a list in pinned but i think it may be a lil outdated)

[fathom spire]

the biodiversity encyclopedia's a good place to start

atleast for all confirmed entities

we have a buttload of concepted entities on the dev-only server

but for obvious reasons i'm not just gonna show all of em lmao

[sacred ferry]

top secret

[drifting valve]

yes

the biodiversity server is more secret than the cia

[mint dew]

ye i imagined so XD

thx

[dawn flicker]

120 reacts 😳 i hope we will be able to really please peeps with biod once its out 🫣

[fossil wraith]

i don't think this mod will ever come out

its in a state of limbo

[dawn flicker]

Wdym? We are working hard on it lol

[fossil wraith]

oh

nvm then

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sochi-sochi-the-cat-post-this-cat-when-they-least-expect-it-gif-10012483772678340442

[dawn flicker]

We have 3 entities almost finished

(Talking about model/animation/coding)

[fossil wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-kanye-west-roblox-roblox-memes-roblox-meme-gif-1028997715501554265

[drifting valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602207979105681451/1236185543730270249/image0.gif

[fossil wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-baloongis-cat-nixly-weaky-repz-gif-25559792

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-meme-dancing-cat-white-cat-meme-gif-24092585

https://tenor.com/view/fisheye-camera-cat-gif-26720928

[cinder arrow]

Hold up, I just woke up and saw this

really?

[graceful fractal]

Yerp

[fathom spire]

we've literally been working on something every single day to get sometimes out lmao

[fathom spire]

year!!

[dawn flicker]

out of the 6 variants we are currently working on 3 are super close for beta :3

[cinder arrow]

OOOO

I’m super excited

[mint dew]

Yooooooo

[spiral rock]

Can’t wait to see this enter mod releases as wip

[dawn flicker]

Same! I think we will have a closed beta on our dev dc and after that we would have an open beta with the entities that would be done. Probably 3-4 depending how things are coming along

For the closed one Im imagining patching out major bugs that would accour with different mechs

[fossil wraith]

can i beta test

[drifting valve]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-boys-kisser-mega-kot-brick-gif-11900063593491011307

[fossil wraith]

kill him

[dawn flicker]

Once its open beta surely i think we will release it but not uploading it to TS until real release

@fathom spire am i right about that? 🫣

[fathom spire]

nah no one would want to manually download

as soon as we have a functioning version we'll do a small closed beta for early testing, and once we iron out some bugs we'll upload it to thunderstore under [BETA] Biodiversity - Batch 1

[dawn flicker]

i mean the beta tester tag is there for that reason 🤔

[fossil wraith]

smash r pass

[frigid hound]

How is this related

lol

[fossil wraith]

it's.... uhhh

/ummhmhmhmh

[amber shore]

Hi there are there any spots open for beta testing 👀

[fathom spire]

sup chickenlord13, cactuslord12 here

most of the beta testers i planned on my side are like, friends of mine who i'll be playing with for testing

but i mean yeah sure, i'll see

there's not gonna be much difference between the closed beta and the open beta

most likely like, a week inbetween them

[dawn flicker]

maybe we could ask Xu for an event? :3

[drifting valve]

prolly less

(given there are no major major issues :3)

[fathom spire]

yeah lmao

[dawn flicker]

well yeah that'll be the case hopefully 😄

[fathom spire]

i don't think we're important enough to have an event bud LMAO

[drifting valve]

we'd prolly be included in the next event though

[fathom spire]

if we ask for an event ourselves it could cause other mods to also ask for events which wouldn't be ideal for management I suppose

[fathom spire]

what like, the super lobby event?

[dawn flicker]

yeah thats true :/

[drifting valve]

yeah sometyhing like that

[fathom spire]

oo, that'd be neat

i mean if diversity was there

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540392678802587675/1236191629845463040/watermark.gif

[amber shore]

Yay! I would love to test this out with my friends because this mod looks crazy

[fathom spire]

thanks goat!!

[dawn flicker]

|| its even crazier ||

[drifting valve]

there is not a single sane memeber in the biodiversity dev discord

[dawn flicker]

:3

[dull needle]

sure I'll push for it

[dull needle]

For a singular mod? Ehhhh

[grave vector]

https://tenor.com/view/roddy-hogan-jcw-hulk-hogan-hulkamania-juggalo-gif-25522965

Except for me. THE HULKSTER

[fathom spire]

awww

thanks buddy :]

hopefully we've got a stable mod going by then lmao

[fathom spire]

yeah no LMAO

[fathom spire]

i've not yet doubted your sanity, so for no you're the only sane person here 🫴

[dawn flicker]

Plot twist: he’s the least sane one.. i mean have you seen his creations? 😂

[grave vector]

https://tenor.com/view/giygas-cat-melon-cat-psychotic-gif-25770926

[fathom spire]

WALUGIGI

[mint dew]

ok i have an idea
THE PHANTOM EXPRESS (ghost girl variant)
This train haunts a player just like the Ghost Girl, You can tell you've been haunted when you start hearing echoing train horns and rail thuds.

At one moment, the player hears a train horn quickly get louder and louder. A beam of light shoots out of a wall and rapidly glows larger as the train approaches. The player only has a few seconds to dodge out of the way before the express hurtles by, creating ghostly tracks beneath it and then going straight through a wall. The tracks fade quickly, and a player that is not haunted by the train will not see it or be affected by it. However, If a player gets hit by the train, they get decapitated (because it's a ghost enemy) and flung across the room.

Yunno how tulip snakes work like a wish.com jetpack? Well, the train would work as a wish.com inverse teleporter. There are ladders on the side of the train that you can cling onto as it rushes by, and when the train goes through the wall, you do so too.

You don't die, rather you take some minor damage as the train clips through the wall, and you don't get to see the entire layout of the facility because a thick black fog obscures your vision. If you let go of the train-ladders at this point, then yeah, you die and your corpse is unretrievable, lost forever (even the teleporter can't save it from whatever ethereal plane it got sent to).

You can hear distorted whistles and railroad crossing chimes and train noises. After a few seconds of this, the train clips back into a random location on the map. You can let go at this point and congrats! You've just appeared in a random location!

The train has a higher chance to appear when enemies are nearby, giving you a handy escape but also another obstacle to deal with.

(Also, like the girl, the train can spawn inside or outside. It can also make the ghost girl and bowler brain dissapear if the train runs them over - don't worry, they'll be back later in the round.)

[sly sail]

i dont know how the "passing through the walls" would work, but i kinda like the idea of the light beam and it coming through every room in a straight line from that beam

its a bit of a ghost girl+earth leviatan thing from what i understand

as i said, idk how "doable" the stair and passing through the walls is

also, dont know how the light beam would work outdoors

(forgot to mention it)

[tight moat]

I think it's a cool idea but the "grabbing a ladder as it passes by" mechanic sounds like it could be a lil janky if not done perfectly

[sly sail]

it could either get you to your doom(no more rooms on the rails) or just plain bug the game out i think

[mint dew]

spawn outside of map, make it ignore collision (or smth it's prolly much harder than that XD)

[mint dew]

yeee i thought so

[sly sail]

in not really a code person, but could ask inside the dev server

(just an idea guy and lore helper in there, but still can ask, this doesnt mean it will be approved unless monty says so)

[fathom spire]

i think the bootleg inverse mechanic would more often than not just leave people in the void

or leave em inside walls

[sly sail]

dungeons dont usually overlap that much

and if they do they dont do it perfectly for it to work

[fathom spire]

i think it'd be cool if instead of being an inside thing this was an outside only enemy, would provide some new methods of transportation while also achieving the inverse tp idea you had

also seeing a train headlight in rend's fog would be really really cool

[mint dew]

yeee
im thinking that right before the player hits the wall, they get teleported through it and then take the wall-clipping damage

[sly sail]

are we concepting this? i can try and prepare a thread if needed

its been a while since i've been active, i kinda like the idea

[fathom spire]

no i'm just spitballing

[sly sail]

k

[mint dew]

ye i was thinking it could go outside
outside-only is kind of a cool idea tho... problem is, there's so much open space outside to avoid the train that it's not a problem anymore, unlike you having to dash down a corridor on a facility layout to duck behind a corner

[fathom spire]

I say you could just make it slightly home in until 2 or so seconds before it strikes, then it just goes in a straight line

[mint dew]

i think this concept is basically horizontal earthworm when u think abt it XD

[fathom spire]

yeah lmao i said this in the dev server just now

[sly sail]

i think that it being an outside-only and the "inverse teleporter" idea work together

[sly sail]

it would have some portals, once you go throught the portal with the train it will tp you inside

[mint dew]

ye, it makes some sfx to warn you, shines the spotlight to warn you more desperately and then rushes by after a couple seconds

[sly sail]

then the grabbing onto it and inverse tp can work better than it yoinking you through walls

[mint dew]

mehhh if we're sticking to the "ghost girl variant" idea, portals seem kinda... too much
the train just disappearing would prolly be a lot more eerie

but from a technical standpoint, the game would tp you to some faraway out of bounds location right before u hot the wall (you're not actually gonna clip through it, only give the illusion of it doing so)
this would look wonky on the monitor but i reckon that can be fixed if the monitor just shuts off or displays static

[sly sail]

thing with being outside is that we need some way to make the "dissapearing" work without it just poofing out of existance

[mint dew]

thats what i was thinking

[sly sail]

maybe it could fade out

but not sure how much

[mint dew]

(then again poofing out of existence is exactly what teh girl does when it despawns)

[sly sail]

and how possible it is with 3d models

[sly sail]

yeah, but we are talking bout a long train

usually ghost girls poofes out of existance when behind a wall(out of LOS)

[mint dew]

ok hear me out then

particles.

https://tenor.com/view/dying-dies-die-death-dead-gif-26158389

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[sly sail]

not really sure how'd it work atm

and as i said we may or may not be taking the idea, is all on monty's hands

[mint dew]

yeaaaa i figured

[sly sail]

for instance, he took my nesting thumper idea, but not my flowery bracken one

[mint dew]

ye im just throwing out concepts bc ive got nowhere to put 'em XD

[sly sail]

maybe we could have it fade it and have some mist around? like, it having fog near

so you dont know where it starts and ends

[mint dew]

oo that's an idea

[sly sail]

and maybe other players would see the fog, but not the train

[mint dew]

wait i came up with a funny solution: the train just... noclips

like the backgrround found footage videos

leaves nothing behind except a distorted train horn echo or smth

[sly sail]

so yall are just there, and one gets snatched out

maybe it could not instakill you, but always grab someone

[tight moat]

it's a ghost train right

[sly sail]

like, it's its main job, to get people apart of eachother

[sly sail]

yeah

[tight moat]

it's just gonna go through shit

[mint dew]

ye

also this train isnt a perfect mod of tranportation as if a giant happens to be in your way while youre clinging onto it then uhhhhh guess what happens next-

[sly sail]

imagine train being able to transport enemies in its way inside with you

(maybe not every enemie, but some small ones like baboonhawks and tulipsnakes)

(and some future variants that may come)

[mint dew]

well for that to work, it'd just have to be a ghost train that doesn't specifically haunt one crew member ig

[sly sail]

i was thinking about fog not being a "haunted only" thing

so everyone has a % to be haunted at first if too close

only the haunted player will get snatched

but fog is global, not client

[tight moat]

I could see the ghost train not stalking anyone

Just that it picks a target, and only that target can experience it the next time it strikes

And it just determines a random target each time

It's not a predator, it's a train

[mint dew]

oooo random target could be cool

[tight moat]

Ghost girl is like, a person, so of course she targets someone

Train is indiscriminate, wild beast

[sly sail]

no brain, just rails

[grave vector]

Think if you didn't treat this as an entity and more so let the game handle it as a trap/obstacle it'd have no trouble going through walls and whatnot.

I think just a train that can run you over is a great idea, the ladder thing sounds insanely tricky and like it'd cause problems.
I could see it as something you could outlast for a period of time, dodging it each time it passes through where you are but it'd progressively get faster.

To make all that fair you'd have to give a player a decent warning before it passes through and it'd probably have to only ever cross perpendicular to the player. If it came from infront or behind it'd probably be real difficult to dodge and kill you most every time.

A good telegraph could be a set of rails shooting out in front of the player where it's about to come through.
It'd be tricky tweaking everything to be timed enough that it feels difficult to dodge but not unfair.

[pure ridge]

it sounds really cool though

[mellow ibex]

is someone working on it?

[fathom spire]

on biod?

yeah we've got about 19 people working on this

unless you mean this last concept, in which case no

[sturdy thistle]

good lord, this isnt even released yet (last time I checked) and this thread has well over double the emoji's on the thread than Lethal Resonance's. This mod will likely be massive

[fathom spire]

hopefully we won't disappoint! we're aiming for quality stuff

[fathom spire]

also the message amount is

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/980916146012319888/1149865415372193812/image0-32.gif

[dull needle]

I think the reactions are placebo cuz mod ideas' only popular thread but ye

[fathom spire]

probably

[drifting valve]

if we don't get 100 million downloads in the first day, Monty will literally explode

[sage mauve]

200 million*

100 million is not enough, it can be achieved in 2 hours or something like that.

[fathom spire]

I'll nail myself to a wooden wall in the middle of town square and place a pile of bricks in front of me for the public to throw

[mint dew]

ye
im thinking the train will give you a lot of warning signals: the ghostly tracks, the spotlight, the rapidly-approacing sfx- you'll for sure know it's coming

also i thought about it and realized that yeah, a ladder would be very tricky to implement. Instead, they could be 'fake' ladders - justs stuff that you can press 'E' to interact with. Once you do, you're repeatedly teleported to the location of the 'fake ladder', and since you're facing it, you can just press 'E' again to dismount

(btw i love the idea of it getting progressively faster as the day continues - maybe it'd be faster by an entire second or two by the time the day is over

i think the pitch at which the train's approaching sfx would play would be a hint as to how fast it is)

[fallen furnace]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/GR150QlFsJBl3ioUivDk5tGFtJHX5SI3RPJw5G9PoPg/https/media.tenor.com/pSWEyf6XFusAAAPo/kiss-boys.mp4

Embed fail 😔

[drifting valve]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-boys-kisser-mega-kot-brick-gif-11900063593491011307

[sturdy thistle]

Jesus?

[dawn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-jesus-walk-in-strut-entrance-gif-15562229

[sacred ferry]

monty died for our biodiversities....

[mint dew]

ok ppl im think of maaaybe tring to make sfx for the mod sometime (emphasis on MAYBE and SOMETIME)

but if i did do that, are there any entities in particular y'all need sfx for? are sfx needed at all or do you ppl alr have that covered?

[dull needle]

They're covered you can make sounds for me though

[mint dew]

aight

[dull needle]

feel free to dm me if youre serious

[mint dew]

perhaps i'll have free time during the weekend

[dull needle]

that's lovely, reach out anytime

[fathom spire]

we do have three sound guys but we haven't had any sfx work since spinmaster's poofed, s1ckboy's doing his own thing and lydion's been working on the red sheep

lyd was gonna hop on the aloe's sfx soon though, thankfully

anyway if you do have some experience you can drop by dms and we can chat a bit wink nudge

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1129971919555412019/1149511134408364164/1053938969403998288.gif

[dull needle]

Monty getting a 20th team member

https://tenor.com/view/ill-take-half-the-other-half-at-the-same-time-all-in-all-of-it-ill-take-it-all-gif-15215272

[fathom spire]

xu's server user count:

counting you you have 30 people, bitch

[dull needle]

The server just became a hangout server LOL

Only 3 to 4 actual people

Including me

Develop the mod

[fathom spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/943028846305873953/1201552947872530532/capybarathesmoker.gif

[dull needle]

Also you're included in that server count, are you part of my team now

[fathom spire]

i literally did concept art for you

if i wasn't included in that i'd feel insulted

[dull needle]

*doing

Okay fine

Like 5 to 6 people

Come make it 6 to 7 people @fallen furnace

I saw u typin

[fallen furnace]

I've been caught

Was about to say "just get more modders" and fell right into my own words

[dull needle]

Exactly, I offer good conditions

[fallen furnace]

I can join for when I eventually (maybe) get to work on stuff

[dull needle]

Join the cool people club

Lovely

[fallen furnace]

Would be nice to see stuff happening anyway

[dull needle]

We are doing stuff rn tooclmao

[sage mauve]

XD

[sage mauve]

Me this week with the maximum inspiration to rush the sounds of Aloe and have them in one day to rest for 3 weeks:

[fathom spire]

you better

https://tenor.com/view/sonicman06-dbz-z-broly-dbz-broly-broly-gif-23376307

[sage mauve]

Btw

I'd say it's going to be easy.

But I said that with Ogopogo and I was suffering in the process.

I will never trust that again.

[fathom spire]

LMAOO

well aloe's will not be much different from the bracken's

so you'll be good

[sacred ferry]

can i join

[snow peak]

i have an idea

[grave vector]

SUBSTANCE SPOTTED

someone is GAMING in the TEXTURE dimension

[snow peak]

Mud Leech - a leech that spawns outside when there is mud. they are 3 players long, one player's head in width, and drag you into the mud with the claws on their mouth

• they take 3 shovel hits to kill
• the more that grab you the faster you get dragged in
• a max of 5 can span, and idk the power level
• they can travel from 1 mud pit too another
• if you move too much next to a mud pit they will grab you
• they are a variant of the big ass sand worm

[dawn flicker]

Snare flea variant?

[dawn flicker]

I dig it

[fathom spire]

we got one that acts somewhat close to this one

great minds think alike 🔥

[dawn flicker]

But fools rarely differ

😘

/jk

[fathom spire]

death for you and your bloodline

[tight moat]

remember gang

if you think you're mentally linking up with someone, your wavelengths are in tune and you're on that grind

you're both either equally smart or equally dumb

[snow peak]

https://tenor.com/view/boosiefade-boosie-bruhwantedboosiefadebutgotthisinstead-gif-4018150076940301301

[dawn flicker]

Exactly! 😂

[fathom spire]

@dull needle

[dawn flicker]

You dont know what chaos you just summoned with that ping

[fathom spire]

||and so, xu xiaolan never replied||

[dawn flicker]

|| calm before the storm ||

[tawny herald]

storms bouta hit hard cus it’s brewing

[dawn flicker]

I might change from [DND] to dead once Xu arrives

[fossil wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sochi-sochi-the-cat-post-this-cat-when-they-least-expect-it-gif-10012483772678340442

[snow peak]

https://tenor.com/view/mengsedih-gif-23325538

[dull needle]

U gotta say pretty please

And pledge disallegience to monty ofc

[sacred ferry]

Xu Xiaolan! Oh pretty pretty please with a cherry on top!

[dull needle]

alright

[sacred ferry]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

[mint dew]

hmmm weather-specific enemies? i suppose we alr have bloat bug so mud leech isn't too far of a stretch

[fathom spire]

there's entities that are amplified by weather effects

won't say which though hehehe

[dull needle]

I bet you aloe benefits from eclipsed where the spawn rate increases

Scratch that, I bet all your entities do that

[fathom spire]

... You said it not me

[dull needle]

I just love leaking

[sage mauve]

Yeah, the ####### has a big buff when ######

[fathom spire]

Ngl I had just thought of that for the Aloe but she's an inside enemy so wouldn't make much sense

[fathom spire]

TRUEE

[dull needle]

I said it because all enemies buff spawnrates on eclipsed lol

And I also didn't wanna accidently guess one of em

[fathom spire]

me when i lack critical knowledge

🚬

[mint dew]

so i was playing content warning and was khem khem """heavily inspired"""

aka im gonna steal this idea but put a couple twists on it

so: a snare flea variant

that latches onto a player (without obscuring their vision)

and then latches onto another one

effectively binding them together.

this snare flea's body would be quite long (about one and a half players long) so the players have a little bit of freedom to move around

[topaz summit]

that is an incredibly funny idea

the snake monster in content warning is SO ANNOYING

[fathom spire]

the penis snake is so funny

i keep getting people conjoined on purpose, funniest shit i've ever seen

[fathom spire]

there's something similar to this in the concept pool for biod

it just doesn't revolve around conjoining players

[mint dew]

YE IKR I LOVE IT XD

[dull needle]

the problem with conjoining in lc

[mint dew]

its funny but also useful (good luck getting lost when you can't go more than a meter away)

[dull needle]

lc encourages people to split up

[sage mauve]

In Content Warning I let myself die when I was stuck with that bug and a snail and an ant started following him and he was like "HELP, HEEELP, HELP" And I was slower because my body was stuck by the monster. 😂

[dull needle]

and cw heavily encourages the other way around

[mint dew]

bobbit worm, ik

[mint dew]

hmmmmm i suppose u have a point

[fathom spire]

oh didn't know you knew

[mint dew]

i have my Methods™
(aka i remember reading it somehwre)

[fathom spire]

smart lmao

[mint dew]

o ye i saw it in pinned and then ctrl+f searched it up XD

sounds terrifying but not quite the the conjoining players idea

[mint dew]

yunno what, good point

how about an entity that does just that

u walk too close within a radius of the player and u start taking damage as if they're frickin radioactive

[dull needle]

lol

[fathom spire]

we switched up a ton abt it dw

[dull needle]

that'd be nice for an item

[mint dew]

good point

[fathom spire]

whoever holds the apparatus becomes radiocative and does 1hp per second to players near them

[mint dew]

i was thinking abt that but that deosnt make sense (why doesnt the player holding it die)

[fathom spire]

how to become horribly annoying with one simple trick

[dull needle]

im not a big fan of messing with vanilla items tbh

[fathom spire]

true

[fathom spire]

||it was a joke suggestion it's a horrible idea||

it would make transportation of the apparatus even more annoying

[dull needle]

its not too bad, just have to make it a different item that isnt apparatus

[mint dew]

what if: haunted wind chimes
they activate when u walk (u can crouch to prevent them from jingling, sprinting causes them to jingle louder)

the jingle damage any nearby players
or smth

[still cloud]

i mean taking the apperatus is pretty op

[dull needle]

people already spend 5 ingame hours transporting anvil from immerisve scrap

[still cloud]

cause it gives you light

[still cloud]

just drop it, then pick it up, rinse and repeat

[mint dew]

still slow af

[dull needle]

yeah, doing that for 5 ingame hours

[still cloud]

depends how far you got in the facility

how much is it wortha gain?

[mint dew]

waittttt i have an idea for the conjoining player thingy
mechanically it would be like double ghost girl and jester kinda but not really

SO it'd be called a constrictor centipede, it conjoins two players and slowly squeezes them to death

the players have to kill it or get tf out of the facility

or wait i have a goofier idea

tying itself to a player and some scrap
so u essentially technically have an extra inventory slot but you are much heavier due to the scrap and centipede

[sacred ferry]

not rlly? alot of the enemies mainly baboon hawks and the butler are much easier to deal with when youve got your team with you so i feel the opposite way like ur supposed to stay together

[dull needle]

baboon hawks get so much harder to dodge when you're fighting them with other people lol

and also the gameplay itself encourages splitting up

maybe not like casually playing, but you'll end up split up most of the time

[sacred ferry]

o ye

actually yea ur right to an extent with atleast gathering scrap but like when it comes to the monsters its more often than not advantageous to have a team lol

[fallen furnace]

Playstyle diff I guess, but splitting up is encouraged imo too

[dull needle]

yeah but at the same time..... thats every game with monsters 😭

[fallen furnace]

Way more than CW I hope we call all agree on

[dull needle]

i feel its super hard/no reason to make a game where the monster is easier solo

[sacred ferry]

yea true lol

i remember a like monster concept in here tho i liked that was like that

[dull needle]

yea

[fallen furnace]

Disagree that adjusting solo difficulty has no point in games, but yes that is hard

[dull needle]

anyway lord ham when u gonna model for Code:Rebirth too (totally not recruiting in the bioD channel)

[sacred ferry]

they were like a bunch of little guys and theyd like choose the first player they see and like follow and protect them by attacking anything near them including other players so whoever they picked had to like stay away from the group lol

[sacred ferry]

perhaps.....

[fallen furnace]

I got no link, false recruitment

[sacred ferry]

id be down if it was somethin like simple maybe :P

[dull needle]

you didnt wanna be recruited >:c

[fallen furnace]

Wha

[dull needle]

u wanna try making a small fun outside enemy?

[fallen furnace]

Evidence?
#1212451384021221457 message

[dull needle]

you said you'll join when u wanna start working on stuff baka

[fallen furnace]

[sacred ferry]

yea sure lol if u got a concept i can try sometime

[fallen furnace]

I meant I'll join but see if I contribute later lol

[dull needle]

bet, ill send you some concept art with it too

[sacred ferry]

oki :3

hooray !

[dull needle]

fine ill invite ya

[fathom spire]

quit begging in my thread lil sis 😭

dms exist

[dull needle]

dont call it begging, that's mean

[fathom spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540392678802587675/1236191629845463040/watermark.gif

[dull needle]

why u being a hater today

[fathom spire]

getting back all the hating you've done to me 😔

[dull needle]

so you're just gonna be an ass for another couple months?

[fathom spire]

no just today

as a little treat <3

[worn python]

Hiya, dumb question, but are monster idea suggestions allowed here? I did have an idea regarding two potential variants of Old Birds and Masked, but I am unsure if I can share them here

I apologise if you see that kind of question here a lot

[fathom spire]

ofc, all suggestions are appreciated!

[fathom spire]

you good, thanks for asking

[worn python]

oh awesome, I will need to write it down and try to refine it to the best of my abilities, but the concept so far is a mutualistic relationship one

[fathom spire]

oo yes yes, i like it

[worn python]

had to separate these entities into two messages.
Buemoch Astronaut```
Buemoch Astronauts are an aggressive offshoot of the Masked, created for unknown purposes. They appear in bulkier suits, reminiscent of NASA space suits, with a severely cracked visor. Protruding from where the head should be is a spear-like protrusion. They have a weak beam of light emitted from their chest, which reveals their location at night. Their movements are incredibly shaky, similar to a Silent Hill enemy.

Astronauts have 5 stages:

• Astronauts will roam the outside in a sluggish pace, searching for any players. It acts like a slower Masked.

• When spotting a player, it will slowly walking towards them. An internal timer will drain, which determines when they enter their next stage.

• Astronauts will break into a violent sprint towards their target. If the player is caught, they will be grabbed, and the Astronaut will lift them up, before stabbing their head with their spear and ripping it off the players' body.

• If an Astronaut successfully kills the player, or comes across the corpse of a player, it will obtain the head and hold it in its arms. It will then run towards the nearest Clockwork Satellite. If there are no Satellites, the Astronaut will throw the head away and return to Stage 1.

• If Astronauts see a Forest Keeper or Baboon Hawk approach them, they will try to run away from them.

• Astronauts despise being observed. If they are seen during Stage 3, they will instantly reset back to Stage 2. If seen during Stage 2, they are forced to stand still and their internal timer is reset.

• They only target players.

Differences:

• Astronauts are almost always outside if one players is outside. If all players are inside, then the Astronaut will enter the facility.
• Astronauts only sprint if they reach Stage 3, and they will never run out of stamina.
• Astronauts cannot convert players.
• Astronauts CAN be attacked by Forest Giants.
• Astronauts display better vision and have significantly higher health than Masked.```

Clockwork Satellites```
The Clockwork Satellite is an autonomous, transforming weapon of war. It appears as a large complex sphere (or alternatively, a cube,) roughly the same height as a Forest Giant, upon landing, but when it enters Stage 2, it will transform into a robotic being very similar in design to the Old Birds, with the lower half replaced with a tank base with treads, and the gun replaced with an alternate design resembling a grenade launcher. Satellites will violently land on the Moon, spawning very similarly to a Nighttime monster.

Satellites have 4 stages:

• Satellites will enter "Shuttle Mode," where upon landing, it will open a hatch, spawning a Buemoch Astronaut. A random internal timer will deplete, which determines when they enter Stage 2.

• Satellites will transform and enter "Battle Mode", now wandering around the map. It will search for any living entities except the Old Bird.

• When spotting a viable target, Satellites will play siren sounds and chase its target, keeping a distance away from them to prepare a Charge attack.

• If an Astronaut approaches a Satellite with the head of a dead player, It will grab the head to examine, and then stash it away.

• Satellites target players, Forest Keepers, Eyeless Dogs, Baboon Hawks and Tulip Snakes. They do not target Masked, unlike Old Birds.

Satellites have 3 attacks:

• Charge: Satellites will accelerate towards their target, intending to collide with them.

• If this hits a player, this attack deals 50 damage and knocks them back.

• If this hits an entity, this attack deals 12 damage.

• If this hits a wall, the Satellite will crash, dealing 10 damage (Players) or 1 damage (Entities)

• Barrage: Satellites will fire grenades at their target. Compared to the Old Bird, they fire at a slower rate.

• These function very similarly to the Old Birds' rockets in terms of damage and properties, and deal the same damage. Yes they set Forest Giants on fire.

• The grenades are generally more accurate, but bounce.

• Grab: Satellites will attempt a grab if the player is close.

• If successful, they will pick up the player and inject them with a syringe-like object, which comes out of the barrel of their gun. This deals significant damage over time likewise to the Hygrodere and WILL guarantee death. It will let go of the corpse, which has been completely melted from the inside.

Differences:

• Satellites heavily prioritise Forest Keepers over any entity, excluding players. Keepers threaten the Satellites' Astronauts.
• Satellites cannot fly up into the air.
• Satellites CAN crush players by accident, whereas Old Birds will try to crush players sometimes whilst flying.```

wall of text, sorry

[dull needle]

It's actually pretty sick that you got a super detailed concept

I'm pretty jealous of that talent :p

[fathom spire]

oh hell yeah

will be reading up on these

[chilly galleon]

Diobiversity

[worn python]

I have this slight problem where I have an idea and I write blocks of text on end, to the point where I almost annoy my friends with how much I write sometimes 😂

[fossil wraith]

rival company's failed attempt at autonamous workers

[dull needle]

Nah its great, tis a talent wasted on bio diversity

[worn python]

yes indeed it is a weird talent you are not recruiting me

[sage mauve]

Stop stealing future underpaid workers for Biodiversity.

[fallen furnace]

One of us

[tawny herald]

let’s declare war on xu

or did we already

idk

[fathom spire]

mad cuz bad

[fathom spire]

also i read this and i think its suuuper cool

i like the masked more than anything

super cool way to fight em

[worn python]

thank you, feel free to use the idea because I can't make mods to save my life

[fathom spire]

i'll make sure to credit you if we ever implement these dudes or introduce some enemy mechanics inspired by em :]

[pure ridge]

me fr. i got so many ideas and literally 0 mod-creation knowledge

[fathom spire]

me too ogs

me too 🫡

[dull needle]

Oh hush, u don't need more than 19+ people smh

[dull needle]

So much hate for no reason

[fathom spire]

we did but then i was FORCED by xu to work in the mines.... release me from the shackles of this wicked witch,,,

||tldr; no||

[dull needle]

Ayo I saw that edit

I preferred the first version 😭

[ocean flame]

what was it

[dull needle]

It was him being really nice and saying yall should be nice too and def help me out :3

[fathom spire]

LMAO

i like you too much to compete w you

you're also too competent

there, i said it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funny-cat-cat-eating-cat-eating-chips-gif-10455465908695706650

[dull needle]

wow

you have a wife, tone it down smh

but also im the opposite, its because of that that i will compete and ill make more content than biodiversity with a 19x smaller team

[fathom spire]

LIKE DOESN'T MEAN LOVE

i opposite of love you

silent hate (kidding)

[sage mauve]

There is no need to compete.

We must eliminate the competition.

And thus have 1000 people in Biodiversity.

Or something like Sonic in Nintendo games.

Xu's giants in Biodiversity. 😎

[dull needle]

i came first :p

[fathom spire]

so did sonic

[tight moat]

C'mon Monty

[ocean flame]

pause it right there buckaroo

[dull needle]

uhuh?

tis true, giant specimens inspired this thread :3

or smthn of that nature

its been a while but yeah

[sage mauve]

We just have to defeat Xu like Nintendo did with Atari.

[dull needle]

Nintendo are assholes

So like

Feel free to brand yourself the villain here

[sage mauve]

Then I just have to restart the universe.

[worn python]

mood honestly

[sacred ferry]

gmod workshop :(

[fathom spire]

c'mon tilted

tbh i forgot cmon had an apostrophe

[fathom spire]

more of a sega guy

sonic's freaking epic...

[sage mauve]

Why do you want to lose to Xu? 😭

We have to be the cruel villain of the story who makes demands.

It's more fun.

[dull needle]

Sonic scares me sometimes, only the weird horror comics go viral on tiktoks

[dull needle]

Because peace and serenity

Learn to be accepting lydion

[sage mauve]

No.

Never

If Monty surrenders to your power.

I'll just have to make another monster idea mod.

[dull needle]

https://tenor.com/view/thorfin-black-%26-white-gif-17789710231615574996

[sage mauve]

Biodiversityn't

Or something like that.

[worn python]

Hire me, I am totally a talented idea man and yes man.

[dull needle]

I'll give u one buck for every good idea

[worn python]

Damn. 0 money to my name so far.

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-spamton-kromer-meme-0kromer-gif-23175542

[dull needle]

Self inflicted?? 😭

[worn python]

I know my place

[sage mauve]

God?

[dull needle]

Don't say that

[dull needle]

It's okay I treat my people well

(I did pay pixel cuz he worked hard but never again anything at that scale, am too poor )

[worn python]

Besides, I simply like to make ideas at my own leisure, even if it means once per month haha

[fathom spire]

Sega never lost, they simply adapted 🚬

[sage mauve]

They lost the fans with Sonic 2006. [?]

[fathom spire]

true

atleast sonic cd was pretty cool

[mint dew]

murder of sonic the hedgehog lmao

[fathom spire]

THAT TOO

[ocean flame]

https://tenor.com/view/flolikenic-geminirlghts-blackvines-gif-5576273564315566855

[mint dew]

i suck at sfx (aka one of my first times trying it out) but i did make one for the ghost train idea i mentioned earlier somewhere

[fossil wraith]

include the minecraft cave sound train whistle in their as a secret

[mint dew]

HAHA YES

[worn python]

I must've missed this idea somehow but the idea of a ghost train sounds sick, mind if you could send the message link so I can read it?

[fallen furnace]

#1212451384021221457 message

[worn python]

thanks

[mint dew]

here

[mint dew]

damn beat me to it XD

[fallen furnace]

Oh sorry

[mint dew]

nah its fine

[worn python]

I definitely like the concept of a ghost train enemy that attacks via charging through walls, not entirely sure about the discount inverse teleporter part tbh.

In a way it sounds like it would be very difficult to understand from the eyes of a gamer seeing this enemy for the first time, finding out that they can grab on, only to let go at a bad time and get killed for it.

[mint dew]

ye that was a bit of a stretch, i can agree

[mint dew]

and the fact that it's a ghost means no bestiary.... hmmmm

[worn python]

I think maybe instead of being strictly a variant of the Ghost Girl, maybe it could borrow some elements from both the teleporter and the Earth Leviathan.

[mint dew]

ye its basically horizontal sandworm that can be outside and inside, that was the idea XD

[worn python]

So for example, it would manifest for all entities and players, but depending on what it hits, it could either kill it or teleport it elsewhere.

tbh I did not really think of it being a sideways worm. lol.

[fathom spire]

it's a charge-based ghost girl that goes away for a bit after an attack, essentially

[mint dew]

perhaps that if a player looks at a train, they could see a grab prompt? and letting go would be a leraning experience(tm)

kinda like the extension ladder - u dont realize that the beeping means thtat it's about to fold if you're using it for the first time, and only figure that out later

[tight moat]

that's the neat thing about LC entities

they don't need to be instantly approachable or understandable

[mint dew]

precisely

[tight moat]

as long as one or two deaths gives you an idea of how an entity operates, you're golden

[mint dew]

each new think u encounetr is a learning experience

like the nutcracker

you have NO CLUE that you can stand still so that it doesnt see you until after u read the bestiary or figure it out

[tight moat]

the nutcracker is an even more pertinent example because the only way you learn that they have motion based vision is by reading their monster log

[mint dew]

you have NO IDEA that dogs depend on hearing

[tight moat]

granted, ghost trains can't have monster logs

because you can't science a ghost

[mint dew]

ye that was the problem i encountered

[tight moat]

I don't think it's an issue for the train

it's a train

[mint dew]

lmao yeah
teh reason u cant scan paranormal stuff is bc scientists are like "magic tf?? hell nah i aint doing this"

i think the "train" part of train is pretty obvious

you hear loud train horn and see the train tracks, youre probbly gonna understand you gotta go

[fallow dock]

Dying from letting go like that would probably make people not try to grab it rather than continuing to hold on

[worn python]

to be fair, it is a giant fuck-off train

and my main gripe was with the grabbing the ladder aspect, which I'd think players new to this enemy would find it difficult to understand

[mint dew]

yeahhh ive been (unsuccessfully) dwelling on those points for a while

the no bestiary entry part is really pissing me off

[worn python]

could possibly replace the grabbing aspect instead with an entering aspect.

if you enter the train successfully, you will be warped to a random part of the interior as soon as the train vanishes

[mint dew]

i cant figure away around it that isnt "train leaves cryptic note hinting towards teh fact that u can grab it"

what if u dont let go instantly? like how u dont open doors instantly

[worn python]

is a bit of a lame solution :(
but I think it works and makes it very easy to understand for first time players

[mint dew]

that could be cool but how would one enter the train without getting eroded if in contact with it

[mint dew]

stupid idea actually, players will just be even more confused, nvm

[fallow dock]

Having a ghostly employee sometimes appearing on it held on might help nudge players

[mint dew]

thats... a cool idea actually

would be interesting if Masked could use the train and the train prioritzes spawning near players who have Masked in their line of sight or smth

[worn python]

not sure what you meant by that, do you mean like... how a player would enter the train without being hit by the train itself?

[mint dew]

well, yes

(i undertsand grabbing onto a ladder isnt exactly logical either but idk XD)

like, do players physically jump on the train or?

[worn python]

ah I see

I was thinking more of a prompt than actually entering the train

[mint dew]

ah i see

well that just circles back to the fact that players need to be close enough to even see the prompt

the prompt could change, ig
when train is rushing by: [Grab On]
when train is clipping: [Let Go And Die]
when train has reentered: [Let Go]

but the prompts are so small....

hold on a second

what if

you cant scan the train

but you CAN scan the entities inside of it?

what if there was some kinda entity like the Conductor or smth that u could scan

they wouldnt be ghosts

(after all, a player isn't a ghost and they'll be able to clip through, so why shouldn't these ppl be able to?)

[worn python]

that's true, yeah. kinda hard to really think around such concept with the limitations of Lethal Company in mind

[mint dew]

and the conductor would have the bestiary entry
(conductor is just a name, doesnt even have to be near the front of the train)

[mint dew]

we could have a pop-up prompt like the "HALT!" prompt when youre landing on a moon with 0 days remaining