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#Biodiversity - Expanding upon LC's fauna and their relationship with their habitats.
tight moat
Do nutcrackers have connected shoulders?
fathom spire
first of all- a bit late to be asking about design inconsistensies
2nd of all no
3rd of all it's done on purpose
lmao
to resemble a more humanoid form
- if you look at a tin soldier (what wax is based on) and a nutcracker toy they're very different stylistically
tight moat
Yeah I mean Soldier is a fundamentally different kind of toy
it was less of a "hey you fucked up" question and more just a random adhd thought
fathom spire
nono i get it LMAO
tbf i noticed it like, this morning
and i came up with an adecuate justification :v
fathom spire
ok i noticed these dont match but idc lmao
tight moat
Oh I see
fathom spire
these
god it's been a bit since ive seen the unmelted version
LMAO
he's so jolly
tight moat
so full of joy
lapis burrow
IDK IF I SHOULD BE PUTTING THESE HERE BUT IT FEELS RIGHT IDK . but ermmm I love this waxy lil guy .. take some small paint doodles I did of him 
cobalt turret
Its-- Its fanart of ideas from this forum so you'd be in the most correct area! dw xD
Love the arts! Wax really getting that deserved love 🥺
fathom spire
IDK IF I SHOULD BE PUTTING THESE HERE BUT IT FEELS RIGHT IDK . but ermmm I love ...
YOOOOOOOOO
LET'S GOOO MY BOYYY
you did him soo good i love it <3333333333
lapis burrow
HEHE YW !!!! 
fathom spire
you made him slightly himboish too hehehehehohohoho
(love how many cool shapes you put everywhere gaaaah)
lapis burrow
sorry I kinda hit him with that himbo beam of mine .. oops !! But ty !! He's very fun to draw :]c
alpine rain
just wait until i hit him with the secondary himbofication beam whenever i get around to 3d modelling him
torpid summit
REAL
sharp flare
Looks interesting
sage mauve
Hello, I have a question, do you already have a model made in Blender of any of those monsters?
Maybe if you have a model and the sounds there will be a greater chance that someone will want to help code the mod.
I can help with the sounds in a couple of weeks.
Perhaps the Loot Bug variants are the easiest to make in blender and code.
cobalt turret
Believe Monty is waiting for a model to use for publishment.
fathom spire
Hello, I have a question, do you already have a model made in Blender of any of ...
I have contacted someone to get a model done, they'll work on it on their own time
i'm also working on model sheets for other monsters in the process, so it's getting done
cobalt turret
fathom spire
Perhaps the Loot Bug variants are the easiest to make in blender and code.
sorta! i believe the bloat bug and honey feeder should be the easiest
the light bug's concept might need revising if it's not possible to make a system to draw it to facility-based lighting
cobalt turret
Its obviously the slimes, being blobs but in different colors
fathom spire
Murkydere?
s1ckboy came up with a concept for a black slime variant with a weakpoint, enviromental interactions, etc
it interacts with valves and hides within gas clouds, you can jump on its head to kill it (its head is a dimly lit yellow core)
but like a normal hydrodere contact damage hurts you, so you gotta be precise with the jump
cobalt turret
Is it supposed to be like, fiendish?
fathom spire
*Lock dagger*?
The heck did Masa miss 👁️_👁️
LMAO a lot i guess
fathom spire
Is it supposed to be like, fiendish?
like, hostile?
cobalt turret
Mischievous
fathom spire
yeah, more of a hazard than anything though
. here's the concept they came up with
could tweak some stuff in there but murky's not my main focus rn
lock dagger is another cursed item that's supposed to be a mask variant
it was originally a golden shotgun with infinite ammo but i thought that was too op
so we reduced it to a utility tool/weapon that's not that great in combat in the hands of players due to its reduced range, but great in the hands of an enemy
cobalt turret
Okay because the naming of the Slimes are a bit more complicated than <word>-dere. It would be cool if we could stick to theme in that regard, because Hygrodere is a greek translation that means 'To get wet' if Masa recalls correctly. Could be cool if we played onto that in a thematic way for the variants
fathom spire
the lock dagger's essentially just a lockpicker but faster
cobalt turret
it was originally a golden shotgun with infinite ammo but i thought that was too...
That definitely sounds OP. Though what were the downsides??
fathom spire
but everytime it's used it has a higher chance of turning you into a maniac (mania)
fathom spire
That definitely sounds OP. Though what were the downsides??
that it could turn on you and make you a maniac, who'd just have a shotgun and run around killing employees
cobalt turret
That sounds terrifying
fathom spire
it'd be a cursed item, so naturally it'd possess you
but yeah, too op
plus there's already a shotgun :P
so i came up with the lockpicking dagger mechanic. the more times you use it in a single round the higher the chance of it possessing you and turning you into a maniac
cobalt turret
Well, not exactly OP Masa would actually argue. Aslong as the chance to get possessed is high enough to not make it OP
Its a pretty cool take on a 'golden weapon of greed' that could've come from like, the golden planet maybe
fathom spire
the maniac (mania state employee) would be able to close doors and lock them back up to trap you, but very rarely
and only when it would be able to tell that you're cornered
though, it would probably be defenseless while it tried to lock the door with the dagger
fathom spire
Well, not exactly OP Masa would actually argue. Aslong as the chance to get poss...
yeah, it's cool
but it's just another shotgun :P also doesn't interact with the environment whatsoever, and it might be annoying to deal with a nutcracker 2.0 type deal ykno
like it's another one shot enemy that has a shotgun and runs around
cobalt turret
Well yeah, but this nutcracker is a nutcracker only you created xD lest they spawn naturally
Thoguh tbh? A murder key is a cool concept too. Heck, you could even play on the fact that maybe its the key to the golden city El Dorado or something
fathom spire
Well, not exactly OP Masa would actually argue. Aslong as the chance to get poss...
you could make the dagger golden
cobalt turret
To tie in with the Golden planet
fathom spire
it's still a greed mechanic, just not one that's tied to killing monsters
cobalt turret
you *could* make the dagger golden
To honor the whole 'weapon of greed' thing? Absolutely should make it golden yes
fathom spire
sick
but yeah lock dagger's currently a prioritized entity cuz it'd be easy as baaaalls to make the model for it
- it pretty much just has masked AI with like, some added bonuses like door locking and stuff
cobalt turret
Another thing that could be interesting is that maybe instead of it being a faster lockpicker, it actually just allows passage through ANY door without needing to unlock it by phasing through the door
fathom spire
like it just makes you intangible?
cobalt turret
Lock dagger better not look like a shank from the store. This thing gotta look ancient, a relic
cobalt turret
like it just makes you intangible?
Yeee. Adds to the supernatural factor of the cursed items
fathom spire
mmmaaaybe
i think it might be complicated to balance that for the possession phase though
it would make fighting it less interesting ig
cobalt turret
Which in turn, you could ALSO tie the supernatural factor with the paranormal factor of Lethal Company, with the girl.
Heck, maybe the girl turned into the dress girl because she was locked up in El Dorado
cobalt turret
it would make fighting it less interesting ig
How would it? The manic could still lock and close doors to make it your inconvenience
sage mauve
I have contacted someone to get a model done, they'll work on it on their own ti...
Uoh, I understand, so, I can help by searching for sounds and mixing sounds from the lootbug variants.
I would just need a list of sounds that I would like each variant to have. On the other hand, the steps can be recycled from lootbug, so it may be easier to search. XD
fathom spire
How would it? The manic could still lock and close doors to make it your inconve...
well yeah but now it has two abilities instead of one
and functionally they're the same thing
fathom spire
Uoh, I understand, so, I can help by searching for sounds and mixing sounds from...
some def should be recycled, but maybe slowed down? or like mixed differently
since light bug for example as softer legs, and honey feeder walks a lot slower
for the steps, btw
sage mauve
since light bug for example as softer legs, and honey feeder walks a lot slower
Yeah, I can do that too.
cobalt turret
Functionally, the manic is just doing what we can do, which is open and close doors, as well as lock and unlock doors. Heck maybe the lock dagger could be used to lock doors when you have it in your hand. To permanently lock up certain creatures or dead ends with a unopened vent
fathom spire
and functionally they're the same thing
only difference is the intangibility makes it so other people can't follow you through the doors you go through
sage mauve
I would only need a list of sounds for each one and I can search and mix them. Maybe I won't be able to do it this week or next week, but in April I will be able to do it.
fathom spire
Functionally, the manic is just doing what we can do, which is open and close do...
nah i think locking doors would make it a bit too good, you'd just be able to lock any enemy behind a door if you're being chased
cobalt turret
Yeah, that part felt like it could be interesting, because it plays on the whole ' greedy' aspect of only you getting the treasure, not your friends
fathom spire
like, the player being able to do so
i guess we could balance it by it having a heightend chance to possess you
cobalt turret
Aha but that's the catch! You can lock it, but not unlock it, because you phase through it. Adn by phasing through it, it means you have to tap into it
fathom spire
I would only need a list of sounds for each one and I can search and mix them. M...
sounds sick! I'll be thinkin of some sounds then :)
fathom spire
Aha but that's the catch! You can lock it, but not unlock it, because you phase ...
it's a lockpicker though lmao
what kinda lockpicker doesn't let you unlock a door
that's like, the whole point of a lockpicker
cobalt turret
Well okay, maybe you can still unlock doors in a normal lockpicker way? Masa thought it was more like a ancient sharp key ngl
fathom spire
functionally, it's an infinite key that you can use to attack enemies that can possess you sometimes
conceptually it's a dagger that you use as a key
idk if that makes sense
you could have it be able to lock doors i suppose, but again, need to balance it somehow lmao
cobalt turret
Yeah that makes sense, though Masa thinks it could be thematic with its theme of greed if it were to only benefit the wielder, not the team.
Still playing off of the whole greed and 'golden city' thing we were cooking up 😭
fathom spire
ye, i get that
i just don't think it makes sense for it to make you intangible
like, conceptually speaking it's very disjointed from the original purpose
cobalt turret
It makes all passages passable for the wielder
cobalt turret
*"Spirits call Dorado,
the golden king's passage.
Alexander exiled peasants
none given mercy to glance.
The key unlocking greed
of they who devour in expanse.
A piercing dagger
assailant of the crown.
Behind locked doors
None alive allowed.
Coated rich zealots
Midas collecting souls.
You puppets and dolls
wear Gordian Visage."*
Sorry, got sidetracked. Had to finish this 😩
cobalt turret
like, conceptually speaking it's very disjointed from the original purpose
Tbh, conceptually speaking it may fit a cursed, abnormal artifact that collects souls and possesses you by unlocking your very form to itself
:D
tawny herald
*"Spirits call Dorado,
the golden king's passage.
Alexander exiled peasants
non...
It would be cool if when the lockpicking mimic (forgot what it was called) spawns it starts reciting this and gives visuals on screen
maybe the suit or the mask on the mimic is also golden as it should relate to the golden planet like masa said
cobalt turret
Or when it possesses you :o Would be very spooky to hear that being recited before the maniac starts chasing someone. It'd ESPECIALLY be creepy if it dissected your voice into a AI voice to recite it in a weird and distorted tone reminiscent to yours
cobalt turret
maybe the suit or the mask on the mimic is also golden as it should relate to th...
Oh! That could work. Kinda like a midas touch type ordeal where it turns you into gold
tawny herald
i heard that someone was developing a mod that uses the crews voices gives it to an ai and then it starts saying things like "help me" and tuff like that
fathom spire
this is a bit much lmao but I'll keep it in mind
didn't even know we'd talked about golden planet related stuff before you brought it up masa
dawn flicker
i've always wanted to play terraria but never had mates for it 😢 I'm actually thinking about a menu mod for biodiversity down the line. This would give so much work tbh with each monster having a theme with different audios in one singular mod 😄 This will be a huge project once and I've still got some themes to got through first.
fathom spire
oh shiiit
tawny herald
I think it should be the weapon of the greed god who is kind of like a midas but a god and was punished for overusing it by being exiled out of the olympus of this world, and then the god decided to create the golden planet so their followers can live on this paradise
fathom spire
that'd be really sick
fathom spire
I think it should be the weapon of the greed god who is kind of like a midas but...
keep in mind it's used more as a tool than as a weapon though
atleast when you yourself use it
cuz it has a low range
it's better in the hands of an entiry, naturally
since any range extension on an entity naturally makes it more dangerous
i never really thought about making the enemy that ambitious lmao
that's the reason why it's prioritized
it's faily simple
though I'll keep stuff in mind
but uh, yeah, don't wanna complicate enemies
fathom spire
i've always wanted to play terraria but never had mates for it 😢 I'm actually t...
you could honestly make one for each category of variants if you want, making menu themes for aaalll of em might be a bit much hehe
atleast for you
like, for a single person i mean
tawny herald
that lore should be in the entry of it atleast
fathom spire
that lore should be in the entry of it atleast
probably yeah
dawn flicker
Once we have a model for one of them, I'll be starting on working a menu for that. Every menu theme will be here (but not all will be included in that bundle theme): #1220909278198497410 #selfpromo
fathom spire
though when i meant "cursed items" i also never really thought of it like "oo ye olde lore item of the gods" i moreso thought of them as fucked up relics you can find that are mysteriously haunted of somewhat sentient
dawn flicker
you could honestly make one for each category of variants if you want, making me...
yes thats the idea 😄
fathom spire
Once we have a model for one of them, I'll be starting on working a menu for tha...
following that thread frame 1 🙏
fathom spire
though when i meant "cursed items" i also never really thought of it like "oo ye...
again, keeping it in mind though
dawn flicker
monty did you sketch Mr.EGG ? xd
fathom spire
Oh I didn't have time dkshdma we're doing easter preparations extremely early rn and I got busy
i opened up an aggie before leaving home though so I can get on it alongside the design reference I'm making for the tin turret enemy
shouldn't be too hard
dawn flicker
its okay, i was just checking if maybe you had something to show 👀
fathom spire
Do you have any design guidelines I should follow for it?
fathom spire
as in, eyes, eyeless, some specific thing i should follow to make it more your vision (excluding the sketches you made, which I'll be taking into account too)
dawn flicker
I could write a bit about it tomorrow / tonight - I've actually got to go
fathom spire
all good!!
also thinking about making a separate discord to organize eachother
but I'll finish up what I've got on hand first before that
dawn flicker
who would be the main cover for it tho?
The backgrounds for biodiversity would switch randomly between each monster's theme. Switching between them is already possible but the audio for each menu screens wouldn't switch right now. Thats something that we have to figure out if we would be working with loaforc's soundAPI somehow or Darkbrewery could implement it in the Emblem mod
tawny herald
you could honestly make one for each category of variants if you want, making me...
if he really wants to make this he could try randomizing the themes for every category?
nvm
dawn flicker
The backgrounds for biodiversity would switch randomly between each monster's th...
Also they'll be animated later on 🤩
dawn flicker
Foxy, Peepers and FreddyKrueger is in [WIP] rn
fathom spire
Also they'll be animated later on 🤩
god that sounds sick
by the by- somehow i came across some of the letcom models on sketchfab
so
dawn flicker
god that sounds sick
well for the menu i'll also need pictures of the models in some pose with a transparent background. So i'll make you all work 😂
fathom spire
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/hoardingbug-af26f26e6aac44b796b235f717e82220 https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/earthworm-801920a750514a3c97e8bd554ffdb6ed
pretty cool stuff
fathom spire
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/hoardingbug-af26f26e6aac44b796b235f717e82220 htt...
also a few more like the coilhead, snare flea and jester
https://skfb.ly/oRRMw
https://skfb.ly/oQOuu
https://skfb.ly/oPBLV
might help with 3d modelling so woohooo
also also
this is for unity asset ripping
might help y'all if you're working on models @restive vortex @sacred ferry @alpine rain
alpine rain
Omg ive been looking for that tool for ages
tight moat
Need to pop that thing like a grape
cobalt turret
didn't even know we'd talked about golden planet related stuff before you brough...
Masa's brain not confusing others challengec(IMPOSSIBLE)
fathom spire
some boys
i need opinions on the gatling design tbh
looks a bit like a cannon, dont know if it looks that good
tight moat
I would reference some real guns
fathom spire
yeah i looked at a gatling lmao
maybe it's a bit too chunky
ok i might either have to streamline the fuck out of it or just uh
get someone else to design this gun
fuck why do i suck at prop-design LMAO
tight moat
fathom spire
ok that'll definitely help
could also cut myself some slack and do something like this
minus the big fucking donut sight
it even has a crank!!
ALSO HOLY SHIT
40 REACTIONS WOOOOO
to celebrate i will post this fucked up lung dragon
sly sail
to celebrate i will post this fucked up lung dragon
THAT'S THE LUNG DRAGON? THOUGHT IT WAS A SQUASHED RAT
IM SORRY
fathom spire
LMFAOOOOOOO
HAHAHSAH
i just hopped on fire alpaca with a screenshot of the earth leviathan and fucked around with the "Mesh Transform" option
HAHAHAH
fathom spire
https://twitter.com/SpiritCityLofi/status/1771257326260895874?t=L8o9tFnqwUaFCpTk...
such a litol boyeeeee
squash and cook him
fossil wraith
to celebrate i will post this fucked up lung dragon
i'm going to have a heart attack
have you thought of making enemies attack each other yet?
fathom spire
yeah! the lung dragon specifically goes after manticoils
and we have a vulture-like manticoil variant which would also be affected by this
fathom spire
my main focus was originally enemy interaction, so a few of the worms and hoarding bugs interact a ton with other stuff
fathom spire
kinda like diversity
does diversity make monsters attack eachother? never played with it
fossil wraith
it would be cool if enemies got fooled by masked and thought they were players
fossil wraith
does diversity make monsters attack eachother? never played with it
not yet
fathom spire
it would be cool if enemies got fooled by masked and thought they were players
yeah, ideally mask variants would be targetted by a few other enemies
fossil wraith
example: maybe coil-heads stop moving when looked at by masked
sly sail
it would be cool if enemies got fooled by masked and thought they were players
actually dogs do mistake masked for players, but only cause they are noisy
fathom spire
ye
the fun guy specifically is one of the most interaction-heavy monsters we have
it simultaneously hunts and is hunted by other entities from outside
sly sail
what if masked could point
i believe there are mods that let masked emote and stuff
fathom spire
yeh mirage does that
fossil wraith
i believe there are mods that let masked emote and stuff
there's toomanyemotes, but the emotes are way too goofy and don't fit
fossil wraith
yeh mirage does that
IT DOES?
fathom spire
well idk about pointing but emoting yeah
yeah lmao
big fan of mirage
qwbarch is a flames dev
fossil wraith
I'VE NEVER SEEN THEM EMOTE
fossil wraith
never ever EVER seem 'em do it
are you messing with me
like actually do
cuz i ahvent seen them doing it
fossil wraith
this is so bizarre
fathom spire
i have too many emotes installed and they'd often do it when stared at for a prolongued period of time
fossil wraith
fossil wraith
i have too many emotes installed and they'd often do it when stared at for a pro...
so, it's prolongued
i dont staree at em long enough i guess
i have masked ai revamp
fathom spire
ah then that's definitely the cause for that
fossil wraith
so i can't have both on
sudden condor
yeh mirage does that
Actually it's Too Many Emotes that does that
It's in the config
fathom spire
Actually it's Too Many Emotes that does that
ooooooh lmaoo
thought it was a mirage feature
dawn flicker
aight monty im back
fathom spire
sup s1ck
fathom spire
i made a little sketch of what i think the final look for eggboy could be
dawn flicker
Can you make a doc for murkydere (or zygodere or idk what name we will go with)
fathom spire
the arms kinda resemble these from the ghost type z move
fathom spire
Can you make a doc for murkydere (or zygodere or idk what name we will go with)
both names are sick, don't really know which one to go with
but also yeah! i sure can
dawn flicker
i'll write a little about its features now
fathom spire
i'll see about finished up the gatling gun design and then getting on it, shouldn't be too hard tbh
dawn flicker
design-wise
fathom spire
since you already outlined the mechanics
fathom spire
i'll write a little about its features now
sick sick
fossil wraith
Actually it's Too Many Emotes that does that
wait no i reject my thanks, i thought you were talking about more emotes
i don't have too many emotes
im probs not gonna install it cuz the emotes are goofy as hell and dont fit
dawn flicker
Murkydere features (design)
- Black slime (its like an ink slime)
- Moves with its hands pulling itself to its destination
- Droppy arms, kinda like it is melting
- Head sticks out a little bit, it has a yellowish glow to it
fathom spire
Murkydere features (design)
- Black slime (its like an ink slime)
- Moves with ...
ooo so it drags itself to its destination?
dawn flicker
yess
dawn flicker
ooo so it drags itself to its destination?
do you like the idea?
fathom spire
do you like the idea?
i do! it's actually a pretty neat way of differentiating it from a normal hydrodere
fossil wraith
oh yeah also uhh... does anyone here know how to use the model replacement? if so could you make a suit that is just the normal (orange) suit but with a 3d mask
fathom spire
oh yeah also uhh... does anyone here know how to use the model replacement? if s...
there's plenty of cosmetics packs or standalone cosmetics mods that add the mask prop to the employee model
fossil wraith
there's plenty of cosmetics packs or standalone cosmetics mods that add the mask...
i have some of 'em, but it would be cool to switch mid-game to be more convincing
fathom spire
i have some of 'em, but it would be cool to switch mid-game to be more convincin...
you could use Advanced Company's mid game cosmetics switching
fossil wraith
you could use Advanced Company's mid game cosmetics switching
a-advanced company??
fathom spire
yeah?
fossil wraith
🤢 🤮
fathom spire
fathom spire
i dont think anyone here knows about how to use model replacement
drifting valve
The backgrounds for biodiversity would switch randomly between each monster's th...
emblem can now integrate into soundapi and it will just work
dawn flicker
emblem can now integrate into soundapi and it will just work
eyo WHAAAAT
drifting valve
yeah i built a whole system to change out audiosruces for the lr team to bring their meltdown over
dawn flicker
dude you just gave me another sleepless night 😂
drifting valve
shouldn't be that bad
dawn flicker
We gotta inform Darkbrewery about it too 😄
drifting valve
if they wanna reach out i can help them implement it
dawn flicker
I'll be needing a little help about it with my themes bundle
dawn flicker
haha
fathom spire
some boys
ok i give up on the gun LMAO
im keeping it like this and then asking someone to redesign it later. i literally cannot get it to look right
like. i got this far and just gave up
tight moat
lol
fathom spire
is it atleast better than the old one tilted
at least give me that or i might just end it
tight moat
It does still look like a cannon I'm sorry
tight moat
He's so fruity
cobalt turret
TinTin be Lethal weaponing your brain
tawny herald
also a few more like the coilhead, snare flea and jester
https://skfb.ly/oRRMw
...
this is perfect
this means i can finally try to make one
tawny herald
once i figure out how to asset rip and all that i’m going to start on my own mod/mods
sacred ferry
bro help im just trying to install everything it requires and im already running into issues
idk how to even look up stuff to help cus ik itll probably explain it to me like i already know what im doing 😭
fossil wraith
Okay. $19 Fortnite card, who wants it? And yes, I'm giving it away. Remember; share, share share. And trolls... DON'T get blocked!
fathom spire
idk how to even look up stuff to help cus ik itll probably explain it to me like...
hmmm
you can try asking in #dev-general
sacred ferry
i found the development resources post abt it and asked there and they reccomended a diff asset ripper for unity games in general but im not sure how to use this either lol
i think ive found the model i want in the files but idk how to like get it out lol
gusty pendant
how is the progress?
worldly cipher
@fathom spire
If possible could you also add Themed Passive enemies in.
Currently in the Shattered Company modpack I have to use Locusts and Manticoils to get spawn weights for creatures low enough in the daytime. I would love to have other Fauna that matches thematically to cold,hot,oceanic,toxic,alien, and radioactive environments.
Penguins, crabs, scorpions, tiny toxic slimes, frogs, fireflies, birds, squirrels, raccoons, skunks, ... etc.
Things that just exist in the environment without being hostile, just goin about their business.
I will use it HEAVILY
sly sail
I will use it HEAVILY
we wont be coming up with non-variant creatures unfortunately
but we may be able to get some passive variants
i think we already got some
or more neutral than passive
in fact, we got a "passive-ish" bracken variant, but she's an indoor mosnter tho
sacred ferry
i think ive found the model i want in the files but idk how to like get it out l...
i figured it out but still stuck i now have like every model ingame except theyre all in like .asset form and i have no clue how to turn them into a usable format
and also i can not find the brackens model which is the literal one thing i wanted it must like not be named correctly or something idk
topaz summit
@fathom spire when you are finished making all the vanilla creatures variants (if you do), will you create variations of modded creatures like peepers and haunted harpists?
fathom spire
<@511729019721482240>
If possible could you also add Themed Passive enemies in.
...
those are easy enough to add, yeah
just gotta come up with variants of normal creatures lmao
cuz non-variants are a bit of a no-go
tawny herald
<@511729019721482240>
If possible could you also add Themed Passive enemies in.
...
in the far future maybe
far far far future
fathom spire
most outside creatures are biome specific, or are themed around a general environment
tawny herald
as biodiversity can also mean many different creatures/species
dawn flicker
Boys i need your help too - help me decide the design #1220939641910464542 message
fathom spire
<@511729019721482240> when you are finished making all the vanilla creatures var...
maaaybe in the far future, we don't even have a coder right now so that'll happen really far down the line
fathom spire
and also i can not find the brackens model which is the literal one thing i want...
did you try looking for flowerman instead?
sacred ferry
yea thas what ive been lookin for
hes named that in all the other files relating to him i just cant find the model 😭
fathom spire
Things that just exist in the environment without being hostile, just goin about...
sounds like an interesting concept, will think abt it for more ambiance related purposes
a lot of enemies already do just go about their business
mainly the 3 loot bug variants
2 of which are outside entities
fathom spire
hes named that in all the other files relating to him i just cant find the model...
that's... really weird
sacred ferry
a lot of enemies already *do* just go about their business
some monsters that just sorta exist for ambience like the locusts and maticoils would be neat
sacred ferry
that's... really weird
ikk
even if i do find the model idk how to even put it in a usable format too
actually i think zeekers just actually couldnt be bothered naming some of the models correctly
theres tons of them just named after shapes
fathom spire
lmao what the hell
sacred ferry
like the model for the egg beater is called "BezierCurve.008"
tight moat
LMAO
sacred ferry
im gonna just load all the models that are named stuff like that maybe lol
tight moat
ZEEKERSSSSSS
fathom spire
actually a sick idea
fathom spire
im gonna just load all the models that are named stuff like that maybe lol
this might help btw https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1189846772286242826
I don't know if it has any info in there that relates to the issue at hand but it's the only asset ripper related thing i found on dev tools
sacred ferry
i dont think it would cus the newest comment says to just use the other like asset ripper instead lol
im rn just loading every mesh into unity and glancin thru them to try and find bracken
fathom spire
what do you use to make models btw?
sacred ferry
i just use blender lol
im just using unity to like look thru the models and hopefuly figure out a way to convert them to a usable format but i dunno if there is
fathom spire
i just use blender lol
ah sick okok
fathom spire
im just using unity to like look thru the models and hopefuly figure out a way t...
there's most definitely a way to turn them into a usable format
lemme ask if there's a way to do that in dev general
sacred ferry
oki
sacred ferry
there's most definitely a way to turn them into a usable format
im sure theres gotta be i just dont think im like searching for it right or smthn
fossil wraith
or more neutral than passive
we need a WAAAAY more hesitant version of a Masked that has a 10% chance of spawning, it's just a normal masked but it hesitates more and will run away like a bracken if you get too close
and it likes to hide in the ship and crouch a lot
sly sail
lasso man variants when....
but what even is lasso man? red licorize?
fossil wraith
we need a WAAAAY more hesitant version of a Masked that has a 10% chance of spaw...
⬆️
sacred ferry
i figured it out heres the spore lizard model 💯
u actually gotta be kidding me ive found literally every single enemy model in the game except for the bracken which is the one i was looking for
fossil wraith
u actually gotta be kidding me ive found literally every single enemy model in t...
can i have the mask model
pls
sacred ferry
im makin a folder of all the useful models i can find imma send it here when its done
sacred ferry
sacred ferry
also i finally found the bracken model but i suspect each of his leaves on his backa are their own models and im not gonna go look for them so
fossil wraith
is masked being able to wear tragedy masks
fossil wraith
lemme copy paste it
fossil wraith
maybe theyd function a little different than regular maskeds
more aggresive?
less agressive cuz they're sad?
anywhays
read this pls: have a random (configurable) chance for Masked to spawn with/without their mask on. this comes with 2 other features: 1. Masked can wear Tragedy masks, (random for naturally spawned, fixed depending on if its the mask item that gets you.) and 2. if you get possessed by putting the mask on, the Masked it creates has a mask on, if you get turned by a Masked, whether or not you have a mask on depends on whether or not the mask that turned you had one on. (basically boils down to: random chance for masked to have masked on (configurable.) and masked can wear tragedy if you get possessed by a tragedy mask)
sacred ferry
idk id think more
bc with the tradgedy doesnt it get stuck to ur face faster than the comedy
fossil wraith
bc with the tradgedy doesnt it get stuck to ur face faster than the comedy
ye
also maybe have masked look at each other more
and their tracking when looking at players is less spot-on
cuz it kinda gives it away when my friend stops moving and looks at me without looking away
sacred ferry
oki heres a zip of all the models of the monsters from the game + some other stuff that might be helpful (masks, turret, shotgun etc)
tawny herald
life saver right here ⬆️
sacred ferry
:steamhappy :
wait appararently i exported them as like a version of fbx files that arent compatible with blender woops
ill make a new zip with like converted blender compatible ones lol
sacred ferry
not too much longer
i found this app thats supposed to convert fbx to a version usable with blender but i cant figure out how to actually open it and every tutorial about it already has it open at the beggining of the video 💀 so im just turnign them all into objs
sacred ferry
yeah but theres like multiple versions of fbxs??
tight moat
how did you find a cursed fbx
sacred ferry
like apparently i exported them as ascii fbx which arent usable with blender
idk bro 3d stuff confusing
fathom spire
also i finally found the bracken model but i suspect each of his leaves on his b...
oh it doesnt matter, aloe bracken doesn't have the same leaves
so you're good
fathom spire
oki heres a zip of all the models of the monsters from the game + some other stu...
this is sick, thanks ham 🙏
sacred ferry
ofc :3
tight moat
name reveal but yeah lol
Omg saint Paul like from the bible
fathom spire
wait appararently i exported them as like a version of fbx files that arent comp...
you want me to ask in dev general about this?
tight moat
where did you get the fbx?
sacred ferry
Omg saint Paul like from the bible
im pretty sure thats who im actually named after yeah lol
fathom spire
PUAL MCARTNEY OMG ISTHAT YOUU
sacred ferry
you want me to ask in dev general about this?
nah im just converting them to objs
sacred ferry
where did you *get* the fbx?
theres a like unity fbx converter i used
tight moat
PUAL MCARTNEY OMG ISTHAT YOUU
read with the same intonation as "omg niel ciciergaaa"
fathom spire
oh my god neil ciciregaaaa
fathom spire
read with the same intonation as "omg niel ciciergaaa"
LMAOOO
fathom spire
wait appararently i exported them as like a version of fbx files that arent comp...
maybe they're not compatible with the version of blender you have? i remember in devGen they said smth about a 2022 build or smth
sacred ferry
im usin blender on steam im sure i have the latest version
fathom spire
OH it was unity ok
yeah then i dont know
you could try asking about it in there, someone should know abt that
sacred ferry
nah its alright i already got all but like 3 models in the zip converted to an obj
ill upload a new one in abit
fossil wraith
https://tenor.com/view/neil-cicierega-lemon-demon-lemon-demon-o-clock-lol-gif-23...
sacred ferry
OK heres the zip for real this time
also forgot to mention alot of the scaling on the models are really weird and arent accurate to the actual game (open the ghost girl model for proof) but thats just how they are for some reason idk what zeekers was doin
im looking at the bracken model now this is rlly weird ive never noticed this but his arms are asymmetrical
like look at the shapes near his elbows
also god the topology dude
tight moat
it's so yummy
sacred ferry
dude.
tight moat
seems aight
fossil wraith
we need a WAAAAY more hesitant version of a Masked that has a 10% chance of spaw...
💡 oh! also.. maybe these masekd could wear the drama mask from the drama mask mod. ALSO PLEASE DON'T FORGET THIS!!
fathom spire
OK heres the zip for real this time
also forgot to mention alot of the scaling o...
@tawny herald @alpine rain ayo the base models dropped, feel free to modify them or use them as reference going forward for the entity models!! Remember that the prioritized ones are currently Honey Feeder, Aloe Bracken, Ogopogo, Lock Dagger and Wax Soldier!!
fossil wraith
dude.
i don't know that much about 3d models (sorry for just yoinking the mask and employee models from that lord ham guy) but that seems preeetty fucked up
sacred ferry
level three gyatt
alpine rain
are these rigged?
sacred ferry
are these rigged?
no sorry </3
fathom spire
level three gyatt
oh my GYATTT
fathom spire
oh. i can alrready rip them unrigged lol
oh LMAO shoulda asked you then gehehe
fossil wraith
the rig is the hard part that we need
yeah..yeahh..
fathom spire
though uh, idk if rigging would be too helpful since we're gonna be deforming the models eventually
sacred ferry
level three gyatt
also hres a like kinda just sculpt edit attempt of the aloe bracken lol (ass not included)
tawny herald
level three gyatt
we need thick bracken mod
alpine rain
the easiest way to make sure the models work properly is to use the same armature
sacred ferry
though uh, idk if rigging would be too helpful since we're gonna be deforming th...
yea i thought abt that and had the same thought were editing the models quite abit sometimes so
outer crow
we need thick bracken mod
i second this
fathom spire
these are mainly just for polygon count reference and for getting the entities that resemble vanilla monsters a lot done quicker
fossil wraith
we need thick bracken mod
ONG 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥
alpine rain
even if the armature shape changes, using the same bones means animations will still port across
fathom spire
the easiest way to make sure the models work properly is to use the same armatur...
ok I'll take your word for that
fossil wraith
we need thick EVERYTHING mod
fathom spire
even if the armature shape changes, using the same bones means animations will s...
ooooh makes sense
tight moat
we need thick ***EVERYTHING*** mod
🫡
fossil wraith
oh ye also check dis out https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1221609662760357899
if we talking about models
alpine rain
man if i knew how to model swap we'd have had thick bracken months ago
this games just such a nightmare to do literally anything with i dont wanna poke it with a 10ft stick
outer crow
man if i knew how to model swap we'd have had thick bracken months ago
how hard could it be
alpine rain
very.
fossil wraith
some guy replaced the bracken with the employee model
alpine rain
i know theres SOME people making asset swaps
and for fucks sake why wont ANY OF THEM make some GDDAMN DOCUMENTATION
tight moat
gestures at my femmployee project
alpine rain
this shit's treated like fuckin WITCHCRAFT
fathom spire
frr
fossil wraith
you guys seem pretty cool so uhh anyone know if this's possible..? https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1221597695983095909
alpine rain
nobody wants to share their methods because they wanna be the only one who can do it
fossil wraith
this shit's treated like fuckin WITCHCRAFT
alpine rain
stop advertising your threads in other peoples mod posts
fossil wraith
https://tenor.com/view/montypython-witch-burnthewitch-gif-5477103
bruh this reeks of 2007
fathom spire
nobody wants to share their methods because they wanna be the only one who can d...
that or they're lazy
which
yeah i dont blame em
dawn flicker
level three gyatt
silent smelt
Bruh I was trying to dm my friend that
sacred ferry
Alright buster.
fathom spire
also hres a like kinda just sculpt edit attempt of the aloe bracken lol (ass not...
try getting some bigger forearms going, not too big, just bigger than the og models
it's looking good!
sacred ferry
try getting some bigger forearms going, not too big, just bigger than the og mod...
this look better?
placeholder texture ig lol
fathom spire
oh that works that works!!
i like the head shape, a lot more bracken-y than the one i came up with
if you want you can try making the knees go less inward
are you working with the reference image btw?
tight moat
I recommend adding thigh gap if you want to have an easier time rigging and animating
alpine rain
not needed tbh
sacred ferry
are you working with the reference image btw?
yeye
sacred ferry
I recommend adding thigh gap if you want to have an easier time rigging and anim...
i can do that i think
fathom spire
I recommend adding thigh gap if you want to have an easier time rigging and anim...
a thigh gap would make it look a bit better yeah
sacred ferry
som edits + started on the aloes
fathom spire
for the legs you could try putting the reference png right behind the model and kinda tracing it from the waist down
fathom spire
som edits + started on the aloes
oo! looks a ton better yeah
still think the feet are a bit too inwards
and btw! thought giving some insight into how the aloe could be some would help
this is basically what i had thought they could look like from different perspectives
sort of like this if looked at from above (?)
dawn flicker
Things really start to take shape here
sacred ferry
this is basically what i had thought they could look like from different perspec...
ohh oki
i think i know how to do that with like curves i believe
fathom spire
Things really start to take shape here
ham's the goat fr!!
sacred ferry
ithink with the spines theyd be a like flat plane with a transparent texture since alot of stuff in the game uses that
sacred ferry
ham's the goat fr!!
teehee x3
fathom spire
ithink with the spines theyd be a like flat plane with a transparent texture sin...
yeah!! most def
tawny herald
starting on wax soldier!
sacred ferry
YAAAYY
tawny herald
can i get pics of it @fathom spire
fathom spire
OO
alright yeah sure
i can give you some pics
though he doesn't physically resemble the nutcracker much
wait. no actually
i remember @alpine rain was gon model wax soldier
are you gonna still model him trucks?
fathom spire
can i get pics of it <@511729019721482240>
if you want you can model the tin turret, that one resembles the nutcracker physically a lot more, so it won't be as hard as wax
fathom spire
sorta? ig he just he's very different in terms of proportions
fathom spire
oh! sorry to bother then, i hope it gets better ♥️ 🙏
i'm not asking if you're gonna do it now, moreso if you will eventually do it
just so we can organize who gets what entity
sacred ferry
oh oki that works then lol
tawny herald
this is going pretty well id say
doing honey feeder rn
i made horn deleted antenna things and now im extending legs
fathom spire
WOOO SICK
tawny herald
we getting developmenttttt
fathom spire
working on a discord server atm too
and lydion suggested working on some sound effects, so if spinmaster does follow through we'll have two sound dudes in there
sacred ferry
question rq i know this is a real small thing but which way of the leaves facing looks better ?
fathom spire
i'd say the 1st one's better
though feel free to be a bit sporadic in the placing of them
though, something important to know is how aloe veras grow
sacred ferry
actualy yea i could have all the aloes on her back sorta facing in towards the middle of her back ithink
fathom spire
they all sorta grow from one single point
so you cold choose 3 or 4 points they grow from and modelling from there
sacred ferry
oohh oki
fathom spire
they would roughly grow from these points
tawny herald
i think i got a pretty good model
i just need textures and im good
oh shi
i made the attacked form
when its aggresive
all i need to do is shorten legs but for now im getting off for the night
sacred ferry
completely and utterly unrelated do u think the aloe brackens petals would be able to work like whiskers like a kitty thatd be kindof silly
tawny herald
im finished with aggresive state for now
im just going to store in lethalmonster folder
fathom spire
oh this is PEAK
fathom spire
completely and utterly unrelated do u think the aloe brackens petals would be ab...
yeha!! definitely :)
they're kinda like catfish whiskers
fathom spire
many things being worked on today all of a sudden lol
fr fr
proud of the bio team 🫡
sly sail
this look better?
will always love the girlies(although flowery didnt seem to make it through, she wont be forgotten, if she ever comes back, she'll come back even stronger and better)
tawny herald
i was
fossil wraith
guys should i take it from him
tight moat
I just said NO
fathom spire
just finished sending out sfx guidelines, feeling jolly
work on the 3d models is also going smoothly :]
sacred ferry
da aloe (she is becoming real)
fathom spire
tight moat
Very flat head
fathom spire
you will not believe what the bracken's head looks like
sacred ferry
the bracken is so flat for some reason bro a pancake
actually i think its a little funny this brackens meant to be a female but is built much more "masculine" than the actual bracken lol
tight moat
fathom spire
https://images.app.goo.gl/yoqHBzYXZaGzAbsU7
GRAHAHA YEAAAAH
sacred ferry
https://images.app.goo.gl/yoqHBzYXZaGzAbsU7
so true
fathom spire
you will not believe what the bracken's head looks like
i noticed it was flat af two days ago when the super lobby event was going on
there was a bracken inside who's ai was just sorta fucked up
so it was just crouching in a corner not looking at anyone
tight moat
I mean maybe the idea is that it's like
outer crow
and as i went past it i looked at him and he looked like this
bracjkn ❤️
fathom spire
https://images.app.goo.gl/2X3ku1YpK4DqM89b6
he looks like the lorax...
tawny herald
i noticed it was flat af two days ago when the super lobby event was going on
i got kicked from that😔
fathom spire
yeah cuz you KEPT LEAVING EALRY
tawny herald
it was accident
fathom spire
twice yeah mhm
||i, very reluctantly, believe you||
||idc that much though LMAO||
tawny herald
Just a little sneak peek of the honey feeder for those who aren't in the server
fossil wraith
Just a little sneak peek of the honey feeder for those who aren't in the server
make it have a booty
tawny herald
maybe
tight moat
Cheeks please
sudden condor
Thicccc
empty condor
Just a little sneak peek of the honey feeder for those who aren't in the server
What server?
tawny herald
the biodiversity server
fathom spire
fr!!! these modelers be cranking shit out FAST and it's PEAK
idk who here's a lung dragon fan but i drew the life cycle of one a few weeks back and never posted it
subtle zephyr
Idea for the dogs
Angler canine: dog with a light dangling near the front of his head if scaned could be shown as scrap
Perhaps If very close to the front of this doggo he is able to somewhat see you, but has a little bit of a wind up before he lunges
Defective dog/cyclog/seer (throwing names): was born with eyes but has bad hearing, can see fast moving targets and hunts them
(If infront of one gotta take it slow, but if your behind one your good to run)
Model could be the dog with eyes or one eye in the middle
drifting valve
hey did you guys still need that programmer 👉 👈
fathom spire
[CODERS NEEDED] Biodiversity - Expanding upon LC's fauna and their relationship with their habitats.
plural
drifting valve
send dudes
i need more men
fathom spire
I LOVE MEN
dawn flicker
Coders rise up!
torpid summit
I LOVE MEN
so true!
fathom spire
fathom spire
i'd wait until we have em rigged tbh
so they're actually usable
if we can't get a succesful rig done then yeah we can do that
tawny herald
dang then i need to make the bug in a t pose
sly sail
Idea for the dogs
Angler canine: dog with a light dangling near the front of his...
i believe angler canine works similar to the mud lizard(both have that angler/scrap kind of thing)
fathom spire
was abt to say! works somewhat similar to it yeah
i do like the concept (atleast visually) of a cyclops dog
I'll keep it in mind :]
sly sail
i do like the concept (atleast visually) of a cyclops dog
could have a narrow fielt of vision, like thumper, and maybe charge the same way to regular dog
but it looses track of you easily
like, it would charge and have a pretty small object permanency
it would look for you for a sec or 2, but will foget about you until you are in a straight-ish line in from of it again
tight moat
Cyclops prairie dog
sly sail
it would be pretty dangerous inside ship
tight moat
Bait it out
sly sail
regular dogs can get to go away, but if you are inside an one of these enter you are just dead, they are easier to go past outside, but if you are cornered it might be a dead 80% of the times
sly sail
Bait it out
it sees in a pretty narrow Fov, its hard
its more of a dont stay in front of it thing
if it enters head first into the ship, you may not be able to get it out, as it would be deaf as suggestion said about angler dog
tight moat
Well you might be able to just scooch around it then
Especially if you can place a shelf down and jump onto it to avoid LOS
sly sail
Well you might be able to just scooch around it then
we still gotta think about how narrow of a Fov it would be
sly sail
Especially if you can place a shelf down and jump onto it to avoid LOS
would it really? idk if they do cut LOS
sly sail
if that's the case ship mom can just put the monitor in fron of them in a corner
sly sail
Keeps you from bumping into it at least
i think they pass though if the noise is behind them in case of vanilla blind dogs
tight moat
Yeh but not passively
tight moat
That's correct
sly sail
just like regular blind dogs with sounds
fathom spire
my only two ideas i had for dogs were a dog variant that resembles a venus fly trap in functionality
and a yeti dog that you can ride on but can barely control
sly sail
more pets
fathom spire
they will both maul you lmao
sly sail
got thumpie, got doggy
fathom spire
the yeti dog you could use to get to and fro quicker, but it'd be more dangerous
tight moat
I do think there needs to be an indoor blind enemy and perhaps that is an eyeless Chihuahua or something
fathom spire
you wouldn't trigger worms and would run past giants (would probably disable the death box from them too)
but it's veeery risky, since if you don't smash the dog's head against a wall or stun it before getting off it will just turn around when you get off and eat you
tight moat
Pft
fathom spire
also it would eat your friends if you were to run into them
fathom spire
I do think there needs to be an indoor blind enemy and perhaps that is an eyeles...
EYELESS CHIHUAHUA
fuck chihuahuas dude they're so fucking stupid
stupid looking*
that's true though i never really thought about adding a blind inside monster
tight moat
Piranha hunting pattern
When one spawns the game automatically spawns 3 more to accompany it
When one detects you they howl and draw the posse in
They only deal a bit of damage but you get SWARMED
tawny herald
maybe an eyeless pup or hound?
sacred ferry
yeah didnt we have an idea of like a baby eyeless dog that still has a little bit of sight and alerts other dogs about your presence or was that another thread in here i dont remember lol
fathom spire
i think that was something from here? or it might've been the subspecies mod idea I can't recall
also @tight moat forgot since you're not on the server but I added a docs for aloe and the brackens (gotta write up fun guy still) and modified the honey feeder's entry
tight moat
Did you want me to give a scrutinous review?
tight moat
Pass the link
fathom spire
it's pinned but gimme sec
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jg5fKxHNFHYYEEPH2Wad-ccYxaPko8CLUJL4RBTKvUc/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BMqXyUmaecEWLmO9RbfId1g-67BYRfSvZifW55JzeW4/edit?usp=sharing
there ya go
tight moat
unsheathing my small little knife
sacred ferry
so wait i never actually read the aloes doc thingy till now, why does she turn aggressive after healing you?
fathom spire
because she's clingy lmao
she doesn't let you go, rather you have to free yourself
by hold the interact button for a few seconds
i guess you could say she's very slightly yanderish??
sacred ferry
oh lol
fathom spire
it's just a way of making her still dangerous
but yeah she just doesn't want to let you go, so she gets mad when you leave and chases you
sacred ferry
thats a silly idea but i feel like being forcebly dragged as far as possible from the main entrance + dropping your items in the proccess would be enough danger in most circumstances
assuming where she decides to drag you uses the same ai as the bracken dragging your body after killing you
fathom spire
ye but then she just kinda stops being a threat
i do get where you're coming from though
might be a bit much
can easily work around it though i just gotta get rid of the aggroed phases for when you free yourself
tight moat
Aight I'm seated now, let's take a look-see
sacred ferry
might be a bit much
yeah i feel she should still be abit of a threat afterward but not like a full aggressive trying to kill you way lol
cus like if shes dragging you away making you have to force yourself away then she kills u cause of that at that point shes just a like bracken with more steps lol
fathom spire
well I never really thought about you being able to free yourself while she's dragging you, moreso when you're already seated with her
tight moat
Can you darken the spoiler text a bit more
fathom spire
actually that sounds fun
fathom spire
Can you darken the spoiler text a bit more
it's so people who don't want to be spoiled on the nitty gritty don't get catch glimpsed while scrolling through to the others
i can try to do that, but I'm not on my pc rn hehe
tight moat
Jus a lil darker
fathom spire
actually that sounds fun
depending on what others think I might remove the angry phase then, she could just try and re-drag you
sacred ferry
yeah maybe u can free urself by like spamming e when shes dragging you then shell back off but each time you reject it she looses some patience, making you need to spam e more to escape until at one point she just kills you lol
fathom spire
and then if she grabs you again you can struggle by spamming the interact key
fathom spire
yeah maybe u can free urself by like spamming e when shes dragging you then shel...
YEEEH
sacred ferry
yeyeyeyeyeyyeyeyeyey
fathom spire
same braincell
sacred ferry
fathom spire
been playing a lot of dragon ball z budokai tenkaichi 4 modded and I'm crazy for mashing mechanics rn lmao
my wrist hurts but it's hype B)
sacred ferry
honestly this is just brainrot but i was thinking of like a weapon in item asylum in roblox with a similar premise LOL
fathom spire
Jus a lil darker
hold on i can just do this
||Like the Bracken, she has a favorite spot she'll take players to after they’ve been kidnapped.
Roaming phase:
ggggs will walk around their favorite spot out of boredom, not interacting with much, just sort of patrolling the place and backing away when encountering players. She is completely passive in this state.
Stalking phase:
P1: After a player has taken some damage (below 90%) she will start her stalking phase, where she’ll go around looking for the player that’s been hurt and passively stalk them. If hit in this phase she’ll hit you back before running away until she’s out of sight. She will resume stalking behavior after this. If the hit she delivers connects with you and you end up below 50%, she’ll hide and then go straight into P2
P2: She’ll stalk you even more, trying to get closer to you and eventually grabbing you and taking you to her favorite spot to heal you. P2 only activates when an employee is below 40% or 50% health.
Healing phase:
Upon successfully stalking and kidnapping a player, the |||| will take them to her favorite spot, where she will sprout some petals on her face and body, then sit down and lay the player on her lap to then secrete a sort of healing fluid from her petals onto their injuries.
This process would heal an employee to full health.
You may force yourself out of this healing phase by holding E for a prolonged period of time or getting someone to interact with you as the gggg is running to its favorite spot or sitting down healing you.
If hit in this phase, she’ll run at the attacker and snap their neck, resuming the previous behavior (snatching the low health player then going on to heal them)
The gggg will continue to hold onto the healed player until they liberate themselves, are liberated by a player or are teleported out. This will trigger the Aggression phase.||
||Aggression phase:
Scenario 1: If the employee liberates themselves after getting fully healed she will begin chasing them at a speed slower than a normal aggroed Bracken, snapping the employees neck when making contact with them. She will then bring the body back to her favorite spot and stare at it for a few seconds, unmoving, then return to her aggressive behavior.
Scenario 2: If the employee liberates themselves but is not at full hp she will chase exactly the same as in Scenario 1, but then when making contact with the employee will drag them back to her favorite spot to continue healing them.
Scenario 3: If the employee is liberated by someone else she will chase the one who liberated the low health employee and snap their neck, resuming the healing phase for the low health employee.
Scenario 4: If the employee is liberated via teleporter she’ll simply become confused and resume her non-aggroed behavior.||
there ya go @tight moat
tight moat
Nowhere does the doc mention how she enters phase 2 without being smacked
tight moat
Aha
fathom spire
she never switches phases from being damaged, she just smacks you, hides and returns to stalking afterwards
might've made a typo somewhere lmao
tight moat
I see
Ok
Off the top
If you EVER hurt her she should forever consider you an enemy and not a baby
fathom spire
hmmm
i feel like getting her far away from you in exchange for a bit of your hp's more interesting than her going killing mode automatically
sly sail
she too kind to kill(on purpous)
fathom spire
like she'd just be a bracken with extra steps, like ham said, which makes her a bit uninteresting
fathom spire
yeah maybe u can free urself by like spamming e when shes dragging you then shel...
sounds good honestly
sacred ferry
yippee!!
sly sail
sounds good honestly
i dont think she'd kill you ever
she may loose patience, but i think it would just get to the point of blacking out your screen and not giving you any chance to escape
fathom spire
fact is if she's never gonna kill you then she needs to team up with other monsters to be an effective threat
which would be fine, but i feel like there should be some lethality to her
fathom spire
cuz otherwise people would see aloe and then be like "ah yes please heal me"
and then get healed and just escape
like there's a lack of risk to that reward i feel
especially since there's nothing that actually heals you in letcom
sacred ferry
yea lol
fathom spire
she may loose patience, but i think it would just get to the point of blacking o...
well but at that point you're just dead i feel
it's effectively the same
sly sail
maybe she could accidentally hold you too tight getting you to lose 60hp
fathom spire
lil question we talking bout aloe?
yeah we are lol
sly sail
like, just so you dont escape she holds you tighter each time
until you get hurt
maybe lose 40% hp
or 50%
(40% just in case she grabs you at 50% to have a possibility to survive but not everytime)
sacred ferry
o yea maybe but i still like the idea of her just losing her patience and killing you lol
sly sail
i feel like it would be more of an accident, as the warning slaps are 90% because she doesnt wanna kill you, just warn you to back off while she heals you allie
still cloud
you need to making a google site for orginization purposes
making goole sites are really easy to
just designing 0 coding
fathom spire
oh? I didn't know that was a thing
we have forums on our development discord server for organizing each concept
fossil wraith
||Like the Bracken, she has a favorite spot she'll take players to after they’ve...
make it do something when you hit it
fathom spire
tight moat
Bracken bracken bracken
So
Enter building
She gives not one shit
Injured?
Stalking you but never touches you
VERY injured?
Get got
You can break free from the mommy milky but then she will drag you BACK
If your friends intervene she will KILL them
sly sail
NOT "MOMMY MILKY" AS DESCRIPTION FOR HER
tight moat
If an enemy entity intervenes she will KILL them maybe
fathom spire
mommy milky ☠️
tight moat
NOT "MOMMY MILKY" AS DESCRIPTION FOR HER
she will sprout some petals on her face and body, then sit down and lay the player on her lap to then secrete a sort of healing fluid from her petals onto their injuries.
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.
fathom spire
GAAAAH FUCK IT'S WEIRD NOW
fathom spire
If an enemy entity intervenes she will KILL them maybe
eh I don't think she'd kill an enemy entity
you could just make it so you have negative aggro or something when being held by the aloe bracken
tight moat
I don't think that should be the case for all types personally
sly sail
unless a small probabilitie activates 1 anyways
tight moat
Like the nutcracker gang can alllll coexist
sly sail
it would be kinda chaotic to have tintin and vanilla at the same time tho
fathom spire
with other brackens it'd be the same, you have negative aggro when held by her
so they wouldn't really care
sly sail
like, 2 bitches shooting at you, what is this an FPS shooter?
fathom spire
would be cool if she were to share her spot with a normal bracken
tight moat
it would be kinda chaotic to have tintin and vanilla at the same time tho
It would be kinda chaotic
gestures at Lethal Company as a whole
fathom spire
so when you're being healed you have dead bodies all around you lmao
fathom spire
it would be kinda chaotic to have tintin and vanilla at the same time tho
tin's a bit oppressive yeah
sly sail
so when you're being healed you have dead bodies all around you lmao
"the voices"
fathom spire
i feel like wax and nut or wax and tin can coexist
tight moat
That's why tin has a higher power level
fathom spire
but i feel like tin and nut aren't fully doable in a way that isn't absurdly oppressive on getting around the place
fathom spire
thing is nut motion senses while tin just sees you even if you're not moving
but yeah that's a discussion for another day
did you have any other thoughts about aloe?
sly sail
i believe also indoor variant of outdoor vanilla and outdoor variant of indoor vanilla should also cohexist
as they dont really mess with each other
tight moat
thing is nut motion senses while tin just sees you even if you're not moving
Oh, why?
fathom spire
yeah maybe u can free urself by like spamming e when shes dragging you then shel...
this idea by ham got me thinking and I might go about it this way instead of aloe copying bracken behavior
sly sail
they can say, saw something, you saw something? you did?
fathom spire
Oh, why?
tin's just a walking turret, it functions exactly like a normal turret
it just has legs
tight moat
But it's controlled by an eyeball not a mechanical sensor, no?
sly sail
But it's controlled by an eyeball not a mechanical sensor, no?
2 actually
tight moat
Wait so tintin isn't even a nutcracker biologically then?
fathom spire
the original idea was for it to be a nutcracker with a turret strapped to its chest lmao
Stroheim style
sly sail
Wait so tintin isn't even a nutcracker biologically then?
it is, as it is 2 parasites on a toy
fathom spire
Wait so tintin isn't even a nutcracker biologically then?
no yeah it is
but someone suggested adding a 2nd one for the eye
and I'm still seeing what I do with that
tight moat
Ok so the "the gun has its own parasite" is the part that's up in the air then
sly sail
second eye would get to crank the turret
fathom spire
yeah, or moreso how the turret eye works
sly sail
if turret is killed then you have to crank it yourself
fathom spire
like, biologically
does it work exactly like the Nutcracker's? does it have enhanced sight which is why it's the one that controls the turret?
tbd
tight moat
Well what I'm saying is that if it's the same eye as a normal nutcracker then it'll be intuitive if it plays by the same rules
If it's a different eye but still an eye then that's bizarre
And unintuitive
Gotta work within player expectations and all that jazz
Telegraphing
fathom spire
tbf you can't really see the eye in gameplay, the telegraphing would just be a laser pointing to you like the turret
atleast design wise
sly sail
tbf you can't really see the eye in gameplay, the telegraphing would just be a l...
imagine it drops a laser pointer
like, second eye has it held and also holds the turret
tight moat
I mean that would be a neat reward if the gun reward gets scrapped
sly sail
if turret is killed it drops a lazer pointer and turret(you need to crank it)
tight moat
But it shouldn't drop a gun AND a high value scrap probably
Makes it way too valuable as an enemy potentially
Neither here nor there though, this is Aloe Hours
SO
Ms. Vera has what is essentially an obsession mechanic in the same way that the Ghost Girl does
Once she picks somebody as her obsession she will try to mother them like a weirdo