[Ported] Giant Specimens

[left granite]

the "tent" is my buddy spray painting the back of the terminal
the couch is from ShipHomeDecor

[calm widget]

Huh?

[sudden stratus]

I'm getting Driftwood Giant samples even without Lategame Upgrades installed

[calm widget]

Ye that's normal

Lgu hasn't updated to support the api that works with hunter so for now driftwood dying spawns it anyway

[sudden stratus]

could there be an option for that for now?

Since I don't really want them to drop JARS

[calm widget]

Next release would have a config options for it, u can ignore em for now

[sudden stratus]

Is the lightning not going to be toggleable?

[calm widget]

It's going to be too

[sudden stratus]

🎉

[broken geyser]

Only got to test this once cause I need to get to bed ASAP, but driftwood on transmission threw me through the floor of the map. Maybe a bug with the pack I have, or maybe with modded moons and how they throw players, I dunno. ned slep but might be worth looking into.

[calm widget]

I had this bug during early stages of testing, unfortunately there's no real fix to it but I've tried minimising it as much as possible

[low girder]

Don’t lie to them, it’s obviously a ✨feature✨ not a bug

[calm widget]

Lol

[calm widget]

bug not on my side btw

[dim roost]

@limpid whale

[calm widget]

i told 'er

[forest mulch]

how did you make that a contraction

[calm widget]

wut

[forest mulch]

her and 'er are the same characters

why did you do that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1221642408970948620/1232094684315385856/ezgif-3-28f82d5ddd.gif

[calm widget]

because im silly

:3

[limpid whale]

Yet we still dunno what mod it is

lol

[weak vine]

im so dumb but TY!

[copper lava]

You could maybe look at how old birds launch players with their rockets to see if you can make it similar to that if it isn't already?

[ebon thistle]

oh, true

you could make it just be knockback instead of like whatever's already going on

[high latch]

this mod looks really cool holy shit

sorry if I'm out of the loop lmao but what other giants do you think you guys are going to implement 👀

[oblique oasis]

you should add socratea exorrhiza, its an actual real life tree that walks

[calm widget]

I cant remember exactly why I ruled it out so I'll give it another look lol

[calm widget]

Next one is cactus giant then pink lady giant, but if you have ideas etc for it feel free to put em down and I'll definitely consider it

[calm widget]

you guys I'll probably do as I said in the image above (also I'm kidding there is like a decent few people here who help make this mod other than me lol, but its 90% me :3)

[wintry minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/xqcl-xqc-stare-gif-23886459

[calm widget]

Wut

[wintry minnow]

Ok this is gonna sound bad coming from me

But explain the pink giant lady

[calm widget]

Lol

[abstract relic]

Yeah that one was not on the fan art

[oblique oasis]

i think its a giant thats pink and a lady

[wintry minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-big-smoke-gif-26028132

Wild

[calm widget]

The idea for this one is by masa, I bullied them for ideas

[wintry minnow]

Im realizing that im fucked dawg

How I first balance the giants

Is off of look and habitat

So I looked at the driftwood and said

[calm widget]

Lol, also driftwood should be fixed soon as well in terms of multiplayer sync'ing

[wintry minnow]

Wouldn’t be on any alive planets, more like wastelands like offense and assurance

But I’m also gonna do the same thing with the cactus giant

And then for the redwood I only place it in places it can fit and look aesthetically pleasing plus a spot with at lease some giant spawns

So right now

Offense is literally a warzone on eclipsed

[calm widget]

Embrion>>

Auralis>>>>>

[wintry minnow]

Ok idk how to feel about embrion having any of the giants

I mean normal giants DO have a spawn chance there

So I can suspend my disbelief and put the other giants there

But idk

It’s gonna be a lot easier with me when I start working on the modded moons

[high latch]

uh oh does this mod not work very well multiplayer?

[calm widget]

Just this specific giant doesn't throw clients that aren't host

That's it though

Nothing that would decrease performance and whatnot

[high latch]

ahhh gotcha

how many giants are there right now?

[calm widget]

2

I'll be taking a break when driftwood is completely done to work on finishing #1225176368585638008 and finishing up some #1195454016021340322 bug fixes

Then ill start work on my new main mod, Code:Rebirth

[high latch]

cool!!

I'm excited to play with this mod, it looks very interesting

[calm widget]

:3 thanks

[copper lava]

Ooh what's this going to be about?

[calm widget]

It's just gonna be everything I can possibly fit into a mod, and not just me, I'm always actively looking for people to help add stuff to it xd, but yeah, scrap, enemies, weather, furniture, items, moons, interior

You interested?

[copper lava]

Sounds interesting, though I'm not sure I'd be able to commit at this point

Open to it though!

[calm widget]

At this point? wdym?

[copper lava]

Just started another mod and want to focus on that before I move on

Also busy with actual work

[calm widget]

Thats fair

[calm widget]

Also very fair

I'm always down for extra help though, so whenever you feel like the invitations always extended

I'd usually ask more people but I'm pretty shy about that and I'd feel like I'm being annoying lmao

[spring girder]

how exactly does driftwood work though? I've really only seen it attack other outside living beings and it never really bothered me

[calm widget]

Try aggro'ing it, as long as you're above half hp the encounter won't kill you but it'll be fun

[spring girder]

as in being too close or hitting it?

[copper lava]

Standing in front of it would work

[low girder]

One mod wasn’t enough? Sheeeshhhh

[calm widget]

yep

[heavy dirge]

@calm widget Apologies for the ping

[calm widget]

all good, whats up

[heavy dirge]

But I had someone talk about your code and he wanted to share some insight.

If that's ok

[calm widget]

that'd be lovely

[heavy dirge]

"You can ask him if they can move the initialization of the random seed into SpawnScrap instead with a null check."

[calm widget]

did they ask what its for?

say*

[heavy dirge]

"As putting it in static constructors can lead to it being executed before StartOfRound is fully initialized"

[heavy dirge]

Your Harmony Lib seems to conflict with anything that patches scrap spawning

"Its as simple as putting the following code in the start of the SpawnScrap method:"

if (StartOfRound.Instance == null)
  return; // log error?
if (random == null)
{
  seed = StartOfRound.Instance.randomMapSeed;
  random = new Random(seed + 85);
}

[calm widget]

hmm alright lol

[heavy dirge]

At least they provided the code to fix it

[calm widget]

yee, it wasnt something tough but tell them i said thanks

[heavy dirge]

Also sorry to just drop this suddenly

[calm widget]

nah its all good, bettering my code is something i'd love to do

they can provide as much feedback as they need

[heavy dirge]

Alr. Only reason I wanted to share was like. I saw errors and stuff

🫡

[weak vine]

Seem to got an issue with driftwoods being unable to grab friends

[calm widget]

yeah i have the fix ready im just porting to LLL first

[lilac dragon]

Out of curiosity what does LLL offer compared to LL

[calm widget]

less bugs for the first one lol

more configurability

an actually maintained API

nothing the player will notice

[weak vine]

Ah okie!

[lilac dragon]

Ah nice was just wondering as it was new if there were benefits

[subtle forge]

Xu Xiaolan, I'm sorry... I broke your mod 😦

The redwood giant has been stuck in one place the entire round 😅

[calm widget]

lmfao what'd u do

[calm widget]

is it running fast?

[subtle forge]

I used the whistle a few times and a redwood giant came and crushed me 😅

[calm widget]

lmfao

i think you're the first to die to whistle

[subtle forge]

Oooof xD

[subtle forge]

It is not running, just slowly moon walking or something xd

[calm widget]

i wonder how you broke it

anything in logs?

[subtle forge]

Gonna check after the session.

But I'm not the host, so there's probably nothing for me

[calm widget]

i think i know what caused it but im not actually sure xd

wouldnt be ur fault tho

[calm widget]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-gif-25634806

[ebon thistle]

TRUEE

[thin edge]

@calm widget

huh

which one is the real one

[copper lava]

delete both and you will find out 🙃

it's the one starting with "The" btw

just downloaded it to check for you

[thin edge]

thx I deleted both just as u said that 😭

[copper lava]

oh I really should've made that sarcasm more apparent sorry 😭

tbf it did work

[mortal moss]

maybe the redwood log should have say that they are attracted to high pitched noises, so people know what the whistle does

[weak vine]

thats what the fuckin whistle is for?

I was wondering what mod added it into the ship because I was super confused

actually could be insanely useful to get those big guys to eat some trees

Feed the friend

[vivid nexus]

A few nitpicks:

• Redwood Giant spawned via Imperium does not appear to be locking aggro onto me. I'm not sure if this is intended since I haven't yet seen any of their natural spawn behavior (I'm testing the mod prior to adding it to my pack)
• Redwood Giant can get too close to the ship and step over it, causing its legs to clip into the ship. Not sure if these do any damage but it doesn't look great and the giant probably shouldn't be able to do that anyway
• Spoiler moon ||~~Embrion should not have natural spawn weights for either variety of giant as the lore entry for the moon states that it is devoid of biological life, and that the surface is scorching hot. ~~ In researching this I found out that apparently Embrion can rarely spawn earth leviathans, eyeless dogs, and forest giants (which directly contradicts that lore but whatever), but if that's the case then a quality pass should be done to ensure that the giant specimens spawn rate on Embrion is appropriately low (approximately 2% or less chance, since vanilla is 2.61%)||
• Behavior of any enemy types (and items) added by this mod should be documented at least somewhere outside of the game, because without that knowledge you're bumbling around in the dark regarding the config settings. I'm assuming this is to keep the enemies at least somewhat of a surprise, but that surprise factor makes me not want to actually install the mod since my friends can be very particular about what's in the pack, and I have no idea what they actually do (doubly so if they don't function properly when spawned via Imperium). That's largely been the reason that I haven't even tried the mod until now despite having an eye on it since it released. Granted I haven't checked the in-game lore entries, so those probably shed some light on it, but point stands

As an aside, is there a way to view monster spawn percentages similar to how you can view interior spawn percentages with the LLL "simulate" command? It'd really help for setting up the spawn weighting as I have no idea what the weighting is compared against.

[abstract relic]

For monster spawns percentage, Lethal Quantities can show you that

[vivid nexus]

I'll give it a look, thank you

[mossy adder]

Why is redwood not able to devour the driftwood giant?

it seems like it was supposed to, since he tries to run into driftwood

but he just cant grab it

[abstract relic]

Maybe that broke recently, but the first time I saw a Driftwood he got eaten by a Redwood

[limpid whale]

It eats them just fine for me

You got a conflicting mod sir

[mossy adder]

dang

maybe enumutils

i know its a dependency, but maybe the version?

[ebon thistle]

redwood does not aggro

it's mostly a stage hazard

also i'm pretty sure redwood has an across the board spawn weight

[ebon thistle]

oh nvm then LMAO

[vivid nexus]

LethalQuantities is reporting that Driftwood and Redwood Giants have spawn weights set for the company moon Gordion. Is them spawning on that moon a concern?

[mossy adder]

Hey people, i know this is the channel for the driftwood giant, but is it normal for huge lightning to go all out when redwood spawns or eats another giant?

[ebon flower]

that's zeus being mad at you

(it's normal)

[mossy adder]

alr thanks

[ebon flower]

and this is the forum for the mod not just driftwood

[mossy adder]

makes sense, ty

oh my god there are 3 driftwoods being chased by the redwood

thats crazy

by the way, do driftwood giants not get eaten by the sandworm?

[lime lava]

NOTHING will spawn at company unless you have navmesh at company mod

[mossy adder]

wait what

arent driftwoods unkillable? (other than being devoured by the redwood)

[near portal]

They are killable also the Big Red can die

[mossy adder]

HE CAN?

i wonder what they look like when they die

[near portal]

He has a LOT of health but yes

[mossy adder]

as he should

bro's the size of a whole map

[lime lava]

ngl

where does forest giant bodys go

i mean like the people he devours

[mossy adder]

they turn into leaves when they die

oh

idk

[lime lava]

hes not that big

how do we just

[mossy adder]

they shouldnt even have a stomach for that actually

🤓

since in the terminal

it says they feed off photosynthesis

and the only reason he eats us is by curiosity 💀

[lime lava]

is he a woodchipper dawg

cause blood instantly goes out his mouth

[mossy adder]

lol

[lime lava]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-crush-crusher-skull-halloween-gif-26163235

[dim hull]

I'm pretty sure you just get pulped

Mashed into soup

[mossy adder]

there's gonna be a fourth giant?

like, forest keeper; redwood giant; driftwood giant; ??????

[near portal]

Yes i think if you can see the picture of the mod the Cactus one Is still missing

[mossy adder]

oh

thats cool

[scenic prism]

One could say its

GiantSpecimens Season 2™️

[mossy adder]

💀

[vivid nexus]

Redwood Giants can spawn on the stairs in Titan, not sure if that's intentional to have that be a valid spawn spot for them. Also not sure if they can path through it as it's just kinda chilling there right now

[tame adder]

thats funny though

big guy just climbing

[thorn sage]

if it's on the stairs is it even possible to walk past the giant without dying then 🤔

[calm widget]

Redwood are guardian angels, they don't aggro onto the player, they do smthn else.
They don't do any damage for people inside the ship.
For embrion, The config option is there for people to change what they like lol.
As for what they do, there are places that say it but I'll make sure to include more places lol

[calm widget]

Super rare bug that I've fixed in the new dev version iirc

[calm widget]

Enumutils doesn't do anything to performance etc, it's a library for me to add some custom stuff

[calm widget]

Nothing spawns on company unless u have a mod that does that lmao

[calm widget]

I'll try and make that a thing, forgot, thanks

[calm widget]

They can its just weird with titan stairs lol

[calm widget]

releasing v2.0.6 now

should fix most issues, let me know if theres any problems

ah i just realised i never tested samples etc

[limpid whale]

They worked properly for us

When playing with the 2.0.6 beta

[calm widget]

its been changed a bit after that i believe

yeah they dont spawn rn lol

[limpid whale]

rip

You can fix it

c;

[forest mulch]

no, I'm going to break it >:3

[calm widget]

break me

[forest mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/headpats-anime-cat-girl-beeg-pats-shake-pats-gif-7464612627661142514

[calm widget]

ill start working on some particles for when the giants die and when an old bird is eaten etc

i forgot to update dependencies too lol, so next update will have that updated, plus particles, plus deaths actually dropping the proper items

[strange ocean]

@calm widget I tested the relationship between giants and other outside monsters.

[calm widget]

this is what the driftwood can attack

[strange ocean]

Oh, when I was testing, I saw that the driftwoodgiant didn't take the initiative to attack the mouthdog

[calm widget]

forestgiant, driftwoodgiant, oldbird is what the redwood can eat, redwood only eats old bird when aggravated

[calm widget]

that is weird, it should be doing that

[strange ocean]

driftwoodgiant does indeed take the initiative to attack the baboonhawk but not dog

[calm widget]

ill give it a test and try to fix that, ty

[strange ocean]

ok

[tame adder]

i cant see driftwood or redwood giants as something that can spawn

[calm widget]

they've spawned just fine for me

did you have LLL installed?

i just uploaded a version that updated the dependencies since i forgot to on the last version, you need LLL not LL

[spring girder]

oh alright

[tame adder]

yes i do, i have no idea how the new LLL works

i have LLL and LL

but i cant seem to see them spawn at all, modded or vanilla

i tried default config and everything

[tame adder]

LLL seems to just be causing a bunch off issues entirely too

[calm widget]

Hmm

Can you send me the logs?

They were spawning just fine with me

[tame adder]

k ill try to get some solid logs real quick

using control company as an example with the bypass mode they just cannot spawn and it never happened until the update that attempts to fix driftwood giants being unable to throw clients (havent even been able to test if the fix worked because they just dont spawn)

[calm widget]

Um what

Your trying to spawn the Redwood through control company

?

[tame adder]

it hasnt been spawning through any thing

natural spawns or anything

its worked in the past

[calm widget]

You could just be unlucky

[tame adder]

control company is just one thing that i currently have installed and all moons they cannot spawn on

[calm widget]

Control company has an experimental tab

[tame adder]

ive used that

it didnt work

[calm widget]

dunno then, it's been spawning just fine for me

Control company is prolly broken for the same reason my dev tools is

LLL stuff

But natural spawns do still happen

[tame adder]

how did LLL even end up breaking this kind of stuff in the first place?

[calm widget]

It's registering the enemy as an inside enemy yet not at the same tike

Time

It works in the same way as it did before so natural outside spawns still happen

But your dev tools will think of it as an inside enemy

[tame adder]

tf

[calm widget]

Yeah.

[tame adder]

is there no potential fix or is it up to just waiting for the devs of LLL to sort it out?

[calm widget]

I'm having to use eclipsed embrion for testing

Just have to wait on batby for a fix

In fairness I didnt tell him it was broken while it was on experimental

Cuz I forgot

[tame adder]

huh

[tame adder]

been sitting on embrion eclipsed for ages and have only seen across regular forest keepers among the horde of old birds

4 ingame days i havent seen a single custom giant

are they trying to spawn inside or outside?

[calm widget]

They should be spawning outside... and it should be fairly immediate

Wait

Omg I forgot to mention

Sorry about thay

Regen your config

[tame adder]

first thing i did

[calm widget]

I had to change the config to suit LLL

Oh

Wut

Hmm

Okay uh

Can you start up the game

Enter a lobby

[tame adder]

ill send you this log

[calm widget]

Immediately exit

Then send a lot

Cuz im on phone and I only need initial logs

[tame adder]

aight

i launched the game with the same mods ive been using for the past week, loaded a fresh lobby then exited

[calm widget]

That's weird, it's skipping my config setup entirely

I'm not sure what mod is causing that, my mod has been loading just fine on my snd

End

[tame adder]

extremely confusing

it didnt start doing this until the mod started using LLL as a dependency

[calm widget]

Hmmm

Is it using the right version?

Like is everything updated and good?

[tame adder]

yea latest

[calm widget]

Can you try sending logs for a pure and fresh save with only my mod?

[tame adder]

ill do it later, for now im going to move onto something else

[abstract relic]

The symbol for spawn weights changed from @ to : ?

[calm widget]

That's intentional

It's an LLL thinf

Thing*

[abstract relic]

Alright, just wanted to know

[calm widget]

Ah I need to change Modded to Custom

[scenic pollen]

using ChatCommands. How do i spawn redwood and driftwood? do they have a specific name?

[calm widget]

RedWoodGiant maybe

[scenic pollen]

hahaha

yeaah no

[calm widget]

DriftWoodGiant too

Wdym yeaah no 😭 thats their internal name

[scenic pollen]

naah
probably something to do with chatcommands

haha i have no clue dude

i have tried everything

[calm widget]

I use devtools to spawn and test

[scenic pollen]

i believe it worked on a previous version too so i dunno

gotcha

[calm widget]

They're considered inside enemies rn

[scenic pollen]

will look into that then

[calm widget]

But still spawn outside

[scenic pollen]

alright alright

[calm widget]

Well the tools spawn em inside but naturally its outside

Just a weird thing with LLL

[scenic pollen]

aaah okay! thats good to know. alittle hard with giants inside haha

[dusk summit]

This will be a dumb question but (v50 spoilers) ||do these giant variants get torched by old birds like the og's?||

[calm widget]

Not torched but damaged and sometimes killed yes

[dusk summit]

Excellent......

[scenic pollen]

alright now i know why the first method didn't work. Lethal doesn't seem to load that mod for some reason. Probably my other millions of mods or maybe that diversity haven't updated for v50 or something 🫨

[abstract relic]

Seems like the giants aren't getting added to the spawn tables on my end

Mod is not working at all actually, they're not even in LethalDevMode

[scenic pollen]

aaah so it isn't just me??? well thats bad and also go for me lol

[abstract relic]

@calm widget Seems I'm not the only one having this issue

[calm widget]

.

[scenic pollen]

For me it didn't show at all on inside type. But as i wrote before it could be because i have like 200 mods

[amber parrot]

Well, it's okay that the Redwood wants to spawn inside.

[scenic pollen]

didn't look more into it, but will later tonight

[amber parrot]

Maybe he's cold being outside. (?

His face always freezes.

[scenic pollen]

here is my thundercode if intressted. V50
018f2049-9408-e980-b713-e4d9e4462054

[abstract relic]

I'll look in the inside section, tho that doesn't fix the problem that they don't get added to the spawn tables

[calm widget]

They do

They've spawned for me naturally

[abstract relic]

They are not in the inside section either

just looked

[calm widget]

That's weird

Show logs

I'm assuming u have the dependencies

[abstract relic]

And I do have the dependencies

[calm widget]

Well theres no errors

But its also not logging anything

So there's prob a mod incompatibility

[abstract relic]

Just tried on a fresh profile and theyre still not there

[calm widget]

What about plushies

[abstract relic]

Nope, not there either

[calm widget]

Hmm

It'd be real annoying if LLL killed my mod but it worked fine during my tests...

[mossy adder]

alr

[rustic quarry]

the version 1.2.2 of this mod is killing it for me dont know if it helps

[rustic quarry]

yea it does

[limpid whale]

1.2.2 has a few bugs atm, @peak lotus has suggested reverting to 1.2.1 until Batby pushes 1.2.3 later

[calm widget]

So it works on 1.2.1?

[rustic quarry]

problem is it still dont work with version 1.2.1

[calm widget]

Hmmmm

That's really annoying I don't think it does

[limpid whale]

It's cus the config isn't loading for some reason

Xu got that in my logs

[calm widget]

You'll have to revert to the version before I ported the mod to LLL

Not sure which one it is but changeless would tell ya

Changelogs*

[rustic quarry]

what version was it

[calm widget]

Prolly 2.0.5

[limpid whale]

2.0.5

[rustic quarry]

ok ty

i try it

[calm widget]

It'll mean there's gonna be desyncs for clients by the driftwood and less config options but I cant do anything about this rn

Weirdly the mod works just fine for me

[rustic quarry]

oh wait

i did that too

and it still dont worked

[abstract relic]

You think you'll fix it today or should I downgrade? Because I planned on playing tonight with friends

[calm widget]

I'll try finding a fix in a bit but idk

I was planning on sleeping lol

[limpid whale]

Xu is working on trying to fix it as we speak

[calm widget]

Ywah

In my comfortable bed

[rustic quarry]

dont rush it

[limpid whale]

Haha still you were in the LLL thread asking how to fix it

[calm widget]

I honestly have no clue why it wouldn't be loading lol, I'll check the Unity project and stuff like that again

[rustic quarry]

take your time finding the issiue

[calm widget]

Yea nothing I can do with his Australian timezone

[limpid whale]

I wanna guess it's something small you missed hopefully

Cus something is telling your config to not load

But the config generates

[calm widget]

Something is telling the mod to not load entirely for whatever reason

[limpid whale]

So theoretically if it generates

[calm widget]

Like the mod loads

[limpid whale]

It should load lol

[calm widget]

Just not on LLL's side

[limpid whale]

Weird

[wet flare]

any other mods u know of broken on 1.2.2

[limpid whale]

This mod isn't broken on 1.2.2

[wet flare]

oh then whats the prob?

[abstract relic]

it's just broken lol

no matter the version of LLL

[wet flare]

lol

[mossy adder]

people talking about 1.2.2 LLL not working... while im in 1.2.0 and didnt even know there were more versions

[abstract relic]

1.2.2 works fine for me

[mossy adder]

alr so should i update to 2.2?

[abstract relic]

It fixed the item changing IDs when rejoining

[mossy adder]

oh good

btw what is lethaldevmode?

is it like, lethalconfig?

[elder coral]

LLL on 1.2.2 prevents you from being able to go to company

[abstract relic]

No it's to spawn stuff like scrap and enemies

[abstract relic]

I don't have that issue

[mossy adder]

ah ok

[elder coral]

Me and one other guy did last night

Had to download the previous version

[abstract relic]

I played all of last night and it worked fine, weird

Also tested a bit today and still working

[elder coral]

My friends also couldn't go to company

[wet flare]

neither do i

[calm widget]

oh i know why

[wet flare]

so giants wont spawn currently? so i should turn this mod off for now?

[abstract relic]

Having it on or off is essentially the same thing right now

[wet flare]

ok, so it doesnt break anyrhing else, so i can keep it

[calm widget]

yeah itll be updated in thunderstore in appeoximately an hour

[wet flare]

thank u

[calm widget]

[FIRST LLL ENEMY] TheGiantSpecimens

:3

[mossy adder]

cool

uh

[calm widget]

yeah idk if its on thunderstore yet

but pretty sure i fixed it

[mossy adder]

so new update?

[calm widget]

sent it in like 30 minutes ago?

waiting on thunderstore

[mossy adder]

Oh

alr

[ebon thistle]

whaaa LLL enemy?

that's sick

gj Xu!

was it hard to make the transition?

[mossy adder]

excited to see what it is though

[calm widget]

i just had to add a lot, no real reason to switch rn for me other than being the first, and that im making tutorials lol

[ebon thistle]

LMAO

you're our favorite megalomaniac hope you know that

yeah I discussed transitioning to LLL w the biod coders and there was really like, no reason to do so currently

[calm widget]

im definitely not lying to you so you run into desync errors in LL

you should transition lol

[forest raft]

I don't know if I can suggests ideas here but could you make the redwood giant roar? Like you exit main and just here a bonechilling roar from something massive far in the distance

[copper lava]

this would be the right place for suggestions 🙂

[calm widget]

it does have a roar, when would you like it do the roar? currently it does it while spawning

[copper lava]

roar keybind hehe

[abstract relic]

It could maybe roar when spotting a giant

[calm widget]

too frequent, maybe a small chance hmm

[abstract relic]

or maybe just a small chance of raoring while it's walking

Like when it checks a node it would have a small chance of roaring

[calm widget]

possibly

[abstract relic]

Also, idk if you're aware but when squeezing a pushie, it only makes the sound for the client

[calm widget]

yeah i've just been forgetting to fix that lmao

[calm widget]

@ebon thistle just incase you didnt see :p

[abstract relic]

I still can't see them in LQ 🤔

[ebon thistle]

oh i didn't see that lmao

[abstract relic]

tho I can see them in LethalDevMode now

[ebon thistle]

hmm

i'll run it by bongo figo and ccode

[calm widget]

you could just do it yourself

its nothing on their side, mostly

[ebon thistle]

how would i go about transitioning it though? i know jack about code

or like. idk what i'd need to change or whatever

[copper lava]

if only there was a tutorial 👀

[ebon thistle]

i know right

sadly xu's just tooooo busy to make onee

oh wellllllll.....

||where's the tutorial||

[abstract relic]

It's my bad, I forgot to reset my LQ config. 🤦‍♂️

everything works fine

[calm widget]

its all through unity

[copper lava]

assuming this wasn't the case for drama but just making sure?

[copper lava]

therein lies the problem 😔

[calm widget]

thats the easy part smh

ill make a QUICK tutorial

[copper lava]

I despise loading it up because I'm not too familiar

oh lol no pressure I was just jesting

[calm widget]

nah cuz i was gonna make one anyway lol

[ebon thistle]

bold of you to assume I even have that shit installed or smth can't think of a response

i'll take a look but like

[calm widget]

you dont have unity installed?

[ebon thistle]

this is like asking a 3 year old to cook a steak

i'm gonna flip the pan and burn my face off

[calm widget]

no this is like asking a grown ass man to watch a youtube video

you're gonna open your computer and not watch skibidi

[ebon thistle]

does it have subway surfers at the bottom doe

[calm widget]

ill ask my superiors if they're okay with me having that

[ebon thistle]

don't refer to me as a grown ass man you're gonna make me cry

[calm widget]

arent u older than me

[ebon thistle]

exactly

[calm widget]

mao

lmao

[mortal moss]

this setting is a bit confusing, does having it on enable eating old birds? or does having it on disable?

[abstract relic]

I would assume True = Be able to eat them

[ebon thistle]

crystal hearte

[calm widget]

that... shouldnt be spawning normally

[calm widget]

if enabled, eat old birds

[calm widget]

what do you see when you scan it

[remote raven]

Driftwood heart

[calm widget]

huh

thats supposed to be the redwood heart 😂

and also not supposed to spawn

how lovely

[remote raven]

black magic

[calm widget]

yeah im really not sure where its getting the name Driftwood heart

[ebon thistle]

also are desyncs fixed in this version?

[calm widget]

ye

[ebon thistle]

sick!

[lilac dragon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lethalcompany/s/9LmGswVl0p

Somebody made some more ideas in style of the original post

First one is my fav

[abstract relic]

This is almost exactly the driftwood

Which isn't surprising considering that was also what I thought the Driftwood would do even before Xu revealed her idea

[calm widget]

HE WANTS TO MAKE A 130 FOOT GIANT1?

i actually really did the gorge garden

[calm widget]

@scenic prism you have competition

[calm widget]

for reference, the redwood is 70 FEET

starlight thumper is so nice looking lol

[lilac dragon]

true it is very simular iirc xu changed the original design a bit so I think thats why they overlap

[calm widget]

yeah i changed both the design and initial features

it wasnt even meant to be on all 4's

[zenith knoll]

what does first LLL enemy mean

[calm widget]

it means this is the first enemy to be ported to use LLL :3

[zenith knoll]

Oh shit nice!' congratulations!!!

[calm widget]

tyty

[zenith knoll]

Yee!

[mossy adder]

Also

when im grabbed by driftwood

im literally launched several meters up in the air, but i only take 30 fall damage

is this normal?

[calm widget]

yeah the damage is intentional, also you're supposed to be launched pretty high up, can you show how high you're being thrown?

several meters makes me think like you're being launched not that high

[mossy adder]

several meters, like 20?

30

25

smth like that

[calm widget]

buddy thats not several

[dim hull]

yeah if you took full fall damage it'd just be a death sentence

[calm widget]

but yeah

thats intentional

several means 2 😭

[mossy adder]

oh lol

but yea, im thrown very high up

[calm widget]

very good

[high latch]

Imo several means like. more than 5

[dim hull]

For example

20

Perhaps 30

[scenic prism]

Love the concepts, but Masa can't see what think of what trees they're based on. 🤔

Might have to deep dive after the RP event

[calm widget]

yep they are amazing

im enlisting monty to make me textures for a redwood variant on the starlight

LOL

[scenic prism]

Lmaooo

That person should get off stinky Reddit though and join here smh

You should react to them and lure them in so we can fight

we can share ideas c:

[calm widget]

i want toooo

they're like a really active LC redditor lmao

[scenic prism]

Convert them

Assimilate

Assimilate

[calm widget]

will do

[scenic prism]

✨

[dim roost]

more giants??? O.O

[weak vine]

hey since Giant Specimens is LLL enemy do I need to like.. manage its spawnrate via that now? or should current mods configs be just fine?

think ive just been getting unlucky with spawns in general suddenly🤔

[calm widget]

i changed how my config works so my config should override LLL's

[weak vine]

okie ^^ I'll likely just delete the config to regen it if I notice things aint working. (though for now I was probs unlucky)

[narrow sequoia]

Question: We were playing with ImmersiveScraps (the v50 LLL port) and TheGiantSpecimens installed
And discovered a conerningly large number of Redwood Hearts in facilities... On free moons no less.
Granted, I haven't done much scrap spawning configuring yet, but I assume Redwood Hearts should be something that drops out of Redwood Giants and not found in facilities?

Here's the log file if you need it. Might be pretty large though because this was from an active game

[copper lava]

Hearts spawning as scrap has been reported already but always useful to have more details 👍

[calm widget]

Yeah I think LLL is setting its own defaults do check the config if there is anything for that cuz im not setting anything myself, will fix next update tho

[narrow sequoia]

Got'cha. Thanks for the heads-up

[weak vine]

yeah no spawns in 6-9 days ima check my configs

im getting no spawns of either giant

I usually saw them either every one or two days, especially on march and adamance

[normal sierra]

Would it be possible to add a whitelist functionality in the configs for what entities the Redwood Giant or Driftwood Giant can target? I did see someone say that there should be an option to prevent Redwood Giants from targeting Old Birds, tho admittingly I haven't checked the mod recently to see if it was added 😅

[weak vine]

oh its in the configs, just saw it

[normal sierra]

oh neat

[calm widget]

:3

[normal sierra]

I only asked because I wanted to disable Old Birds being targeted by Redwoods, and Eyeless Dogs being targeted by Driftwoods (don't ask why, I am a freak)

[calm widget]

Hmm I can make a "whitelist" with defaults

[weak vine]

@calm widget does this look weird?

it looks weird to me

[normal sierra]

that would be awesome 👀

[full ruin]

is it the level

[weak vine]

i mean should thw @ symbol be there?

it shows : for examples, but not @

[calm widget]

Swap Modded to Custom

I keep forgetting to change that

[weak vine]

hmm

[calm widget]

Wait why is the @ symbol there

[weak vine]

Yeah thats what i thought

[full ruin]

it was there in the last config

before lll

i have it also

[calm widget]

Yesh but they regen'd their config

You gotta get rid of that :3

[weak vine]

not yet

[full ruin]

payforhim

[weak vine]

I guess I have the old config

[calm widget]

I swapped for a reason lol

Yeah

[weak vine]

which means shit broke

i'll delete it and regen then

[calm widget]

LLL wanted me to swap to : for standardising stuff

[copper lava]

colons are the default choice for a delimiter like that tbf

[weak vine]

so old config = brok bc LLL swap, aye no wonder it wasnt spawning anything

same thing happened for me when Weathertweaks updated and it didnt fix for me, the damn old config options

[calm widget]

Yeah soz

[weak vine]

nah its fine, its more on thunderstore or smth

[vivid nexus]

Even if the @ symbol isn’t standard it worked fine on v49 LLL for pretty much every config I adjusted weightings for. Was something switched recently to only allow :?

[weak vine]

at least I get Big FriendTM back

[weak vine]

LLL

[vivid nexus]

I’ll have to remember to switch those when I enable the mod

[copper lava]

I accidentally spawned a redwood while trying to target a normal giant in debug mode. never seen one of them in game myself so was a bit overwhelmed lol

[calm widget]

Lmao

[ebon thistle]

eh, i dont think giants should be tied to tree types, though it is a cute gimmick it might be a little limiting in some places

[scenic prism]

Masa does think that keeping a form of identity to the species is necessary however.

Besides, you can do so much with the different trees

Masa literally grabbed a Socotra tree and turned it into a dragon masked samurai giant that spews fire

[ebon thistle]

probably

[novel lance]

i agree, i think working with limits usually can create great things

like building around a central idea is cool

[scenic prism]

You get it <3

[scenic prism]

This is also why Masa was so adamant about naming different Hygroderes. Masa likes further proceeding on that theme, and not disregard it for the sake of doing something. They're variants, not a blank templateafter all. So Masa likes to keep the vanilla identity into it even in lore

[ebon thistle]

yeah i like doing that

[ebon thistle]

you will never convince me that name is good i'm sorry masa 💔

[scenic prism]

Skill issue for thinking scientific names were gonna be any shorter 💔

[ebon thistle]

i hate scientific names 💔

actually why did we ever make it end in "ere"

[scenic prism]

Complain to Zeekers then 💔

[ebon thistle]

not every dinosaur ends with "urus"

[scenic prism]

Dere means 'To-<blank>' Its the same template of 'You are <blank>'. Lest you wish to go out of your way to find a different term to play with that aspect...

Scientific names have ✨ meaning ✨

[calm widget]

Hygroderes is a cool name

[scenic prism]

Hygrodere is dope ye, bamboozled Masa when Masa saw it during a scan

Thought it was just gonna be errr errmm 'Slime'

[ebon thistle]

yeah it's cool

[novel lance]

i think its interesting yeah. not generic as naming it slime or sludge or goo or somn

[scenic prism]

(Internal code name is 'Blob' tho)

[novel lance]

a bit too out there for me personally but also not generic so

[copper lava]

blob

[ebon thistle]

thing is we had like, a whole arguement over a variant's name cuz making a cohesive scientific name that also sounds good is really hard

lmao

[novel lance]

blob gets a pass

[copper lava]

oh I actually just forgot about that, true

[novel lance]

blob is a funny word and you all know that

[calm widget]

Redwood was pink giant for a while

[scenic prism]

Dunno, Obscurumere sounds pretty peak to Masa smh

[ebon thistle]

yeah i'll find a different term

[ebon thistle]

we all have different tastes

[scenic prism]

Yeah you like MEN

[ebon thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1167636036281708615/1226255621699932220/ezgif-1-ed4a8cd86d.gif

yeah and?

[novel lance]

based

[scenic prism]

And Masa likes WOMEN ✨

[ebon thistle]

HAH

gay...

[scenic prism]

Yeah and? You gay TOO >:C

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-you-like-kissing-boys-don't-you-cat-lowpoly-3d-gif-9960745507421464646

[novel lance]

gay is such a funny word

[scenic prism]

.

Xu, Monty's bullying Masa...

🥺

[ebon thistle]

the public must CRAWL

[novel lance]

for why

i dont like the ground

[ebon thistle]

the funny sticker says so, jester

[scenic prism]

Masa say NAY

[lilac dragon]

lmao

icon changes when I enable / disable

[calm widget]

I think that's caches acting up

Def a thunderstore issue tho lmao

[lilac dragon]

yea its just funny'

[weak vine]

@calm widget yeah after deleting the config, the bois are back

including dickhead the shotputter

who thought he was have a good laugh by throwing me away from the entrance as I was about to go inside

;c

[calm widget]

Hehe

[plucky dome]

when did LLL become a dependency for this mod?

[viral tusk]

It adds the enemies using LLL instead of LethalLib now

[unborn dove]

6 hours ago

[calm widget]

Si

[plucky dome]

alright, we've had LLL disabled atm because we're getting the void error when trying to join on our friends lol

[copper lava]

Could downgrade if it's causing issues I guess

[plucky dome]

we're testing every mod one by one now to figure out where the problem is

(every mod that uses LLL)

it's not GiantSpecimens since that just got updated, but yeah this is gonna be tedious

[vivid nexus]

@calm widget So while updating my pack with interior weights (via LLL) and the enemy weights in this mod's config file, LethalQuantities is now showing that there's no spawn weights set for this mod's monsters, so they just aren't showing up in the list at all. Can I get you to sanity check my config to make sure something isn't broken here? Because otherwise I don't know why it'd be doing this

It was straight up working a few game restarts ago

[abstract relic]

The show up in the interior category

[vivid nexus]

huh? since when, since the LLL update?

[abstract relic]

yeah

[vivid nexus]

I'm like 100% positive it showed up under outside before, I have a screenshot 1s

[abstract relic]

yeah ik, its since the last update

[vivid nexus]

This was as of about 30m ago

On the latest GS update

They aren't showing inside either except for Redwood Giant replacing Centipedes in the list, which was reported here #1206494982521753620 message

Here's my config for reference

[calm widget]

I have genuinely no idea

Just take it as a temporary bug that'll be fixed soon

I'll see if I can get a fix working on my end, but it's 2am lol

[abstract relic]

Did you disable GS at some point?

[vivid nexus]

GS is enabled, only thing I've changed is interior weightings, and spawn weightings for a modded moon in LLL's options (the latter of which I disabled afterwards so they aren't even taking effect)

[vivid nexus]

That's fine, I'm just wondering what triggered this lol

I'm regenerating my config file again to see what happens

Yeah, they just aren't showing anymore now even after regenerating GS's config

I'll try regenerating LLL's config too after I copy my dungeon weighting changes in case I fucked something up

[calm widget]

I dont even know what the problem is anymore lol, the Redwood AND driftwood are copying the centipedes spawn weights and also act like interior enemies?

[mossy wasp]

So, is the mod not working rn? I haven't played with it since it switched to LLL

[vivid nexus]

So to clarify since there's separate issues in play here:

• Redwood Giant is replacing centipede spawn weights and exists with its own weights, to my understanding (issue #1)
  • Unsure if this impacts either Redwood Giant or Centipede spawns or is simply a naming error
• Weightings for monsters from this mod no longer show up in LethalQuantities after some unknown change I must've made, which is what I'm looking into here. Most likely an LLL config problem (issue #2)

[calm widget]

It works just spawn weights are weird rn

[vivid nexus]

Ultimately as long as it works it's fine, I just want to make sure they can spawn at all in my case lol, pretty sure this issue isn't with your mod

I just deleted LLL's config and I'll check now

[calm widget]

Can you try the following: make embrion spawn weights 0, go into embrion, see if any Redwood spawns, then make it 9999, embrion again, then see what happens

[trim flax]

centipede bug will be fixed in todays update

[calm widget]

Thank fuck

All I wanted was a confirmation it existed

And I didnt fuck up making the enemy

[vivid nexus]

Even with LLL's config cleared out LQ is not reporting spawn weights for this mod's monsters anymore

Not sure if that's actually the case or what but

[trim flax]

depends how LQ does it

[vivid nexus]

So I've got no clue what the hell happened

[calm widget]

LL to LLL guide almost done btw, its nothing much just a 10 minute process of what they need to do since its not crazy, especially since i can only cover the parts i know (enemy and items), I just gotta edit the video a bit cuz I stutter a lot lol. After that I'll talk with xilo and hamunii on how the wiki should be formatted and get a written guide up or atleast link the video in some way

[vivid nexus]

Do you still need me to test this?

[calm widget]

Nah should be fine, ty for finding this though

Helped greatly

[vivid nexus]

Anyway we'll be playing tonight with GS enabled and I'll let you know if the monsters end up spawning

[trim flax]

@calm widget is there any problem with just having custom enemies in all 3 spawn pools for the test enemies menu

[calm widget]

I wonder why you can't get it working on just the right menu, but nah there'd be no problem with that, probably the best option for most enemies as well since interior/exterior exclusives aren't a thing as time goes on

I've honestly wanted to do stuff like spawning butler outside etc for testing, I wouldn't mind it being all enemies not just custom but yeah up to u

[trim flax]

I can only do the right pool by checking if the relevant matching properties have any values and if you have a config that might make that untrue then it wont show up

[calm widget]

Why not check for the properties like IsOutsideEnemy, IsDaytimeEnemy?

[trim flax]

eh

i guess

[calm widget]

Lol, I do prefer having them show up on all 3 menus but that'd probably be the solution to specifically matching them to only one correct pool

[vivid nexus]

@calm widget it's ImmersiveScrap

not sure how but it prevents this mod's weighting from generating when it's enabled

maybe other mods too, didn't check

[trim flax]

isn't immersive scrap lethal expansion

[vivid nexus]

specifically Xu's ported version which is LLL

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/ImmersiveScrap/

[heavy dirge]

WHAt

wE JUST NEED FUMO COMPANYT

[vivid nexus]

anyway I'm positive ImmersiveScrap is at least partially the problem since it consistently happens whenever it's enabled and doesn't when its disabled

[calm widget]

@trim flax just my guess but could it be because I put the same author name?

[trim flax]

wym

[calm widget]

AssetBundleLoader.AddOnExtendedModLoadedListener(OnExtendedModRegistered, "XuXiaolan"); I use this line of code when doing configs in ImmersiveScrap and GiantSpecimens

I'm assuming it sees XuXiaolan and something overwrites the other, I have no actual clue though

[trim flax]

ah fuck

[calm widget]

tyty

[trim flax]

ok

fixed next

you doing that will be fine

[calm widget]

Perfect, ty

[trim flax]

your mods will need a tiny update btw

changed that function to have 2 optional strings so you can pass in author or mod name

[vivid nexus]

well that's two weird bugs I've helped to identify tonight lol

[trim flax]

wanted to do it as a different function but c# freaks out because its two functions with same name and same param types

even if the usecase is diff

[calm widget]

Yeah that's fine with me, I'll pass in the mod name

[trim flax]

author name is chill too

i forgot to add the func to the pre-existing dict index if it already exists

[calm widget]

Again, ty for the report, very helpful

[calm widget]

Ooh lmao

[trim flax]

yeee

just one of those things you miss until it comes up

[calm widget]

alright this should be the final TGS update for a while (until something goes horribly wrong with a bug lol)

oh and ig ill probably be adding the redwood variant if i get it soon

[calm widget]

Yeah... someone made a really cool concept for a variant

That's about... 1.8x taller

I'm just waiting on textures for it and I'll add it

Will behave the same way as redwood but it'll look sooo cool

Redwood Giant (StarGrasper Variant) or something along those lines

[prime night]

what does this mod actually look like ingame

[kind berry]

Epic-

Though idk where I would put that mf

But I'll probably wait for a good moon for it- (besides embrion)

Though I'm gonna limit where they spawn anyways

[keen horizon]

starscraper

[calm widget]

Yeah they might not fit in many places but they'll look cool af

[calm widget]

Uhh good question, I don't have much gameplay footage actually but there is a couple in pins unless I unpinned em

[kind berry]

Fr-

[viral tusk]

Will the spawning of the variant just be a small chance when a Redwood spawns?

[prime night]

do they spawn on modded moons since i have like 20 of them so i barely use the vanilla moons

[calm widget]

Functionally kind of? I'll let you set its own spawn weights etc as if its a separate enemy but I won't allow a redwood and a stargrasper to spawn together

[calm widget]

Yep they do, just regen the config since I made a fix for that today (also LLL is currently bugged with custom enemy weights so might need to wait till 1.2.3)

[prime night]

wdym regen config

[calm widget]

Delete the config generated by the mod if you've used it before the newest update

[prime night]

oh i should be fine then since this is my first time downloading it

[calm widget]

Yee

[subtle forge]

First LLL enemy?

[calm widget]

Yes

This is the only LLL enemy mod rn

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tfxkqTtPY-Acp65KgbEQ5QOYeUkJxUp6/view?usp=sharing I made this tutorial for LL to LLL but haven't edited it or really gone over how good it is

[subtle forge]

Interesting!

[lilac dragon]

HEHEHEHA

[calm widget]

Wut

[spring girder]

I always felt like the redwood should be much taller than it currently is, not sure about width though

[flint rune]

Dors this mod work with v50? Cause it wont work on mine

it shows up in the LethalConfig but not ingame

[abstract relic]

Yeah

[flint rune]

Hmm i wonder why i cant get it to work, i did all the dependencies

If i have duplicate files in Plugins folder does this cause errors?

[abstract relic]

What is your problem? They can't spawn naturally?

[flint rune]

No theyre not spawning. And the whistle item not in store

[abstract relic]

Try to recreate your config files (delete them)

[flint rune]

So thats why i think its not working, but it says that its loaded when i start the console

Ok ill try this

Delete the config folder?

[abstract relic]

No just the config of GiantSpecimens

[flint rune]

Oh. Ok ill try thxz

[flint rune]

I deleted my whole game and reinstalled. Now it works

[calm widget]

lovely

[ocean trench]

I feel like I'm missing something. LLL is managing enemies now, great, how do I know what the internal names are of your enemies so I can actually add them to the new spawn tables in LLL? your enemies no longer show up in spawn lists at all

[calm widget]

there's currently a bug with LLL and putting enemies in the wrong place that'll get fixed soon, I have a config that works unless you also have ImmersiveScrap installed (also something that'll get fixed), try messing with the config if you're messing with spawn weights

[ocean trench]

no as in I literally don't know what your enemies are called to add them to the spawn list. The spawn lists in this mod's .cfg are superfluous now given spawn weights are (supposed to be) managed in LLL now, right?

[calm widget]

they don't need to be managed in LLL directly

i've set up mine to be managed through my mod's config

[ocean trench]

oh

k

i was under the impression you'd integrate with LLL's new features given you're advertising as the first LLL enemy, lol

ok yeah issue was immersivescraps. good to know.,

thanks

[abstract relic]

LLL managing enemy is not new ?

Pretty sure you could do that before

[calm widget]

LLL managing enemies is 1.2 update lol

very new

[abstract relic]

I mean spawn weights

[calm widget]

it uses LLL's systems and LLL's config system as well, it just isnt DIRECTLY in LLL's own configs

[calm widget]

oh idk

[abstract relic]

These settings already existed before

[flint rune]

Hey i have a question. How come when i play with the GiantsSpecimen Mod i cant travel to the Company building?

Like i type it in the computer but nothing happens. It wont even press enter

Does this happen to anyone else?

[kind berry]

Downgrade to LLL version 1.2.1

[flint rune]

Ohh yea i just found that was causing it thx

So how do you get older version?

[calm widget]

uninstall the mod

try reinstalling

[flint rune]

Nvm i see, its under Versions

[calm widget]

yep

[flint rune]

Why would the LethalLevelLoader be updated to not work? Weird

I will get the old one tho, thx for hlthe help

[novel lance]

oversight most likely

[full ruin]

quick question, does the mod work rn if i use the mod's config to spawn enemies? havent seen a single spawn today

[calm widget]

not if you're also using immersive scrap

[full ruin]

not using it

Expode

[calm widget]

hmm it should be fine then...

[full ruin]

im gonna regenerate the config regardless

[calm widget]

good luck!

[full ruin]

playing on orion was a pain today without redwood 😢

[kind berry]

oof I have Immersive scraps and I want to use this mod but I don't want the items that drop on death appear in interiors

[calm widget]

itll hopefully be fixed soon

patience 🩷

[kind berry]

epic

[vivid nexus]

GiantSpecimens causing clients to load into a black screen

Narrowed it down to this mod, doesn't happen when it's disabled

[calm widget]

Well I doubt the errors by me

Could just be pure luck that it happens to have fixed itself after getting rid of my mod

[vivid nexus]

Not sure

[calm widget]

Latest update shouldn't be anything anything new

Too new*

[vivid nexus]

I'll have to take a look at the other mods that updated since then and see if I can figure anything out some other time, but I didn't add anything new

[tame adder]

im just patiently waiting for the next LLL so most of the issues i have with this mod hopefully fix and if not then i will just cope
surely the LLL fix will magically solve all my lethal mod issues right?? right???

[boreal lark]

ran into the same issue, 2.0.8 works fine but 2.0.9 causes clients to load into the black screen every time

[silver wedge]

@calm widget the API's public btw.

[calm widget]

Oooh update went live?

[limpid whale]

It did, WhiteSpike also fixed the issues with LLL

[calm widget]

Ah nice, I'll make the compatibility patch update tmrw (technically today ig)

[ebon thistle]

i am free tomorrow so i'll sketch out a design and get it done by the end of the day if possible ;P

[calm widget]

take ur time if need be, but that's purrfect

[ebon thistle]

oh then i'll make you wait TWOOO DAAYS

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-dbz-frieza-evil-laugh-laugh-gif-5152676

[calm widget]

Banned from my server

[calm widget]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDNuSw_fjYA&ab_channel=XuXiaolan
made it lol

[austere bronze]

Hey is there a mod or way to spawn those giants (or other ennemies) I really want to test them

[calm widget]

theres a config, so as long as you dont have immersive scrap installed you can set the spawn weights to like 9999 and they'll spawn

i'd recommend devtools but its a lil brokey with LLL rn

[austere bronze]

LLL ?

[left drum]

btw would the red giant kill those old birds

[calm widget]

Api that I use to put my enemies into the game

[calm widget]

Only of they attack first, and only if the config options allows it

[austere bronze]

Ahhh okayy

well thank you !

[left drum]

i wanted to see some fights lol

imagine giving them a sumo ring

[calm widget]

Old bird too smoll

[left drum]

but you have more giants besides the red one

[calm widget]

Old birds also happen to be unable to take damage

Otherwise you'd see a fight

LOL

[fallow dirge]

like the vanilla dev tools? how are they broken?

oh wait

I guess you showed me lol, it's the thing with them being listed in the wrong area?

[wet geode]

i can change that

[calm widget]

Yea

Makes testing custom enemies in controlled ways impossible for me

[fallow dirge]

when you register the enemy do you provide an indication of inside or outside to LLL?

I haven't gotten to look at that part of it just yet

[calm widget]

I have no clue how batby's doing it, how LL did it was looking at enemy Type and seeing what the enemy is registered as there and then injected it where it needs to be

Thing is my enemy still spawns outside

So it's put into the enemy outside list

Just not at the right timing maybe? Idk

I'm the only LLL enemy mod so it's not high priority for batby but enemies have a few problems lol

Like my enemies being listed as snare flea in some scenarios

[fallow dirge]

huh yeah that is very curious

one of these days I'll have to look at the code lol

[kind berry]

Are there any bugs with them still rn?

[calm widget]

Rn? No the enemies are completely functional

As far as I'm aware atleast

Only github issues I've gotten are from someone spawning 50 redwoods and making a noise complaint

And people asking me to make config options that already exist

[kind berry]

Lol

But yeah might wait until immersive scraps doesn't cause issues-

[slim blade]

SIR PLEASE

[calm widget]

Yeah it's not the fault of the mod, it's just an LLL thing that has an easy fix on my side but I don't wanna update any mods unnecessarily without adding to the mod

[calm widget]

?

[slim blade]

sir please

[calm widget]

??

[fathom gust]

Is the new giant out yet?

the uh, I think driftwood one I forgot

[copper lava]

Yeah driftwood is out

[calm widget]

Yeah driftwood is out and I'm releasing another one sometime in the next week

This next one won't have new mechanics, it'll be a variant since I thought it looked super cool

[limpid whale]

👀

A variant of which giant?

Forest Keeper?

[kind berry]

[calm widget]

Of the redwood

[limpid whale]

;o

[calm widget]

Someone cooked some really nice looking concept art

I'll make it its own enemy if it looks good enough

[normal sierra]

Would that be the pink giant thing that's been posted on Reddit somewhere?

[calm widget]

The Redwood/pink giant has already been released long long ago

I also released the mangrove/driftwood one

There was a new reddit post recently with new giant concepts

[limpid whale]

I just want them to spawn lol

[normal sierra]

Oh I meant like the pink/white one

[limpid whale]

They never spawn atm

[normal sierra]

I gotta find the post

[calm widget]

So next update will hopefully include Redwood [StarGrasper Variant]

[calm widget]

If that's the really fucking tall one then yes

[calm widget]

Yeah immersive scrap deletes my mods config cuz of a bug in LLL rn

[normal sierra]

Yea that one

[limpid whale]

That's why the Giants don't spawn?

[calm widget]

I think so yeah

[limpid whale]

I saw you say it was related to them both using the same author name