[Ported] Giant Specimens

[limpid whale]

LOL

[calm widget]

It's not fog

It's just march

[limpid whale]

March doesn't have fog like that for me with no weather

It never has

Huh

[calm widget]

Base game looks extremely foggy for me when I test nowadays so I get u

Maybe just never noticed it or a common mod clears it

[calm widget]

Nice, its looks pretty sick

[vocal flower]

The same thing is also on Experimentation for me. I'm conviced it's WeatherTweaks as I just tested it :3

[opal wing]

nah, its shouldnt be as Ive used weathertweaks and its never caused that

[calm widget]

yeah but "its just march" i didnt mean it was moon exclusive lol

the fog is normal like that for msot moons

atleast for me

[lilac dragon]

As in the weather ?

Looks like the video?

[calm widget]

yeah

its not weather, its just normal

[lilac dragon]

Idk my March is basically clear for me

[limpid whale]

Same

[calm widget]

I've been having problems recently with testing my mod on vanilla moons but them being super foggy, I'll recheck my mod list but im 90% sure its just vanilla being vanilla

[pliant vault]

yea vanilla can be crazy foggy 99% of the time if foggy

[scenic prism]

Eh, dunno. For Masa March still goes on for 13 more days..

Sorry not sorry

[mortal moss]

the redwood seems to slightly glow for some reason?

like here on gloom, it glows in the dark which makes it look not the best

[ebon thistle]

im pretty sure it's intentional

i like that you can see the textures more but uhh... it doesn't look the best honestly

the textures are great, but it sticks out like a sore thumb now

like it doesn't really fit in visually with the rest of the game

[ebon thistle]

i realize this is a stupid sentence cuz it's a giant fucking red monster but yknow what i mean

[ebon thistle]

part of what made the redwood giant so cool to me visually is that it was so, so big yet you sometimes never got a good look at its face or features because it was shrouded in darkness even during daytime

personally it glowing just uuh... makes it look really weird, i don't fucks with it too much

esp on darker moons it just looks really out of place

[kind berry]

yeah it does-

[ebon thistle]

i don't mean to be harsh with my criticisms i just think that it looked a lot better great before it had this glowing effect

[restive terrace]

yeah when I was making the menu screen I had to work around the glow xd

[ebon thistle]

i also personally don't like the red eyes but i can look past those, they aint that bad

[scenic prism]

The red eyes aint bad. Though the glow of the entire body could be darkened yeahhh

[ebon thistle]

nah yeah, the red's mostly up to preference

[scenic prism]

Well it IS a __red__wood giant so..

[ebon thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-meme-gif-25909810

[scenic prism]

Based on the big ass tree called the redwood tree

[restive terrace]

😮

[scenic prism]

Which is bigass btw

[calm widget]

i mean, i can turn down the glow lol

only reason it was ever added was to see some slight textures, ill turn it down a bit cuz with my mods it seemed pretty dark still but if yall can make it something big then yeah

[midnight verge]

maybe like 50% or 25% of what it currently is

its so cool to see from far away

just some massive ass silhouette

[calm widget]

i love this video, take some more videos, you've got a talent 🙏

[hardy yacht]

Is there any documentation or wiki where I can see what the Redwood Giant does so far? Or a message link works too 🙂

[restive terrace]

RedGiant peed

[calm widget]

Oh true i should make a wiki

[hardy yacht]

Yeah wikis are great 🙏

[calm widget]

also the problem with changing glowing etc for me is that I cant see the changes in the editor lol, but if you're still here

i got a question

do you want me to turn down the redness as well? or just the glow?

[midnight verge]

i think currently the bestiary is where u can get the most info on the giant

but people dont typically check it

[ebon thistle]

the redness is fine, the glow's the problem imo

maybe desaturate it veeery slightly

but not too much, it's alright as is

[calm widget]

RedWood Giant

Sigurd's danger level: 20%

Scientific name: Satyrid-Proceritas 

Don't be afraid of this giant, well maybe still a little, this overgrown Satyrid-proceritas is one of if not the most calmest of its species, mainly minding its own business. It has grown so much that it does not hunt humans, Instead, it rather hunts its own kind. Still, be very careful around them as they don't seem to care much about where they are stepping. - Sigurd

[hardy yacht]

Ohh true

[hardy yacht]

Appreciate it ‼️

[ebon thistle]

ah that's fair enough then, i can see how that could happen

[calm widget]

which one?

+I'm colourblind, red-green

so this isn't the job for me :p

[ebon thistle]

OH lmaoo

you mean for the colors?

i prefer the left honestly

[ebon thistle]

that makes a lot of sense honestly

[restive terrace]

Left and the eyes will stand out a bit more

[ebon thistle]

sorry if i ever came off as mean with criticisms it makes total sense why you'd struggle with it hehe

[pliant vault]

do like the darker red on the left

[midnight verge]

left looks better

oh yeah u mentioned the glowing red eyes? have u actually noticed it ingame because its really hard to see it at ground level.

[ebon thistle]

it'll probably be a lot easier to work on the driftwood giant and the deserty one going forward, so don't worry

[calm widget]

there are no red glowing eyes btw

removed those a while ago

[midnight verge]

oh

[ebon thistle]

are they white or still red?

[calm widget]

if there is any glow, its cuz the whole thing is glowing but much less than before

they're red

[ebon thistle]

ye i figured

[calm widget]

i cant change em to white without going into blender etc

[midnight verge]

he is a "red"wood giant

i think the eyes are fine red

not like u really see it any way since its sunken in and covered by shadow

[pliant vault]

only thing i gotta say about the red giant is when he eats a giant the blood just drops after he disappears, was thinking of it spray out a bit when he is getting munched on like how the giant eats a player

a very small nesh but ether way i love this giant and hyped to see what youll do with the other giants

[minor nymph]

left

[kind berry]

left is better-

[minor nymph]

idk how you're doing those textures but if you give them to me I might be able to give them some variance if you want

[calm widget]

Sure I can send ya them to do your magic if you'd like, I'll get em in a bit

[minor nymph]

okai

probably need the model too to make sure it doesn't go haywire

[calm widget]

Bet

In terms of particle shaders etc, I have found a solution, it might take a while because I have to delve into entirely new territory for me lol but things should end up looking much cooler.
Also there'll be an update either today or tommorow with the reduced glow+ darker red + whatever else I may have added, the updates are just gonna be small and the bare minimum cuz there's not much more to optimise.
Oh and also changes to navmesh

[near portal]

Left One Is Better

[midnight verge]

the council has unanimously decided left is better

[mortal moss]

left seems better

[mortal moss]

screenshake from the stomps seems to have really high range, friend was noticing it inside the facility on vow

[midnight verge]

i've heard the stomp sound from inside, but i dont recall screenshake

was it only ur friend experiencing it and not u?

[mortal moss]

didn't go inside, but i wasn't experiencing it inside the ship or while it was decently far

[midnight verge]

imma test this rn

metal facility on vow..

nothing

i can hear the footsteps

but no screen shake

even the dungeon generates pretty far below the surface.. far away from the giant

the only possibility i can think of is that screen shake has limited horizontal range, but large vertical range... and so when the giant was stomping directly above the dungeon interior. ur friend was affected by it.

also xu. about the footsteps copying the color of the ground. honestly i think its better to just generally have it gray dust colored.
i think it would look good in most cases and would be less issue with certain modded maps not giving properly color.

[mortal moss]

yeah prob

[calm widget]

Previous feedback was that people wanted to feel it inside the facility (obviously it's incredibly small and almost unnoticeable lol) so the range is just high enough that maybe you'll feel it but probably wont

[mortal moss]

friends seemed to notice it plenty

[calm widget]

Do you have the jester stomp mod enabled?

[calm widget]

@mortal moss ^

[mortal moss]

nope

[calm widget]

Any mod that could also cause screen shakes?

[mortal moss]

nope

[calm widget]

Hm

I can modify the logic of the range I use to become less reliant on vertical range

But it shouldn't be happening, the range itself isn't that high

You would feel it in the ship if you were in range too

The range has subsections, 5, 25 and 50, 50 is the only thing he coulda felt but again, super unnoticeable

[ebon thistle]

i agree

[calm widget]

Giving the proper colour is all about to feedback about what colour the ground is since its manual lmao, but I can add a config option for the footstep dust override lol

[mortal moss]

that might be good

[sudden lichen]

Me and my friends liked it, it didnt seem that bad whilst indoors

[calm widget]

Gotcha, ty

[midnight verge]

yeah, but u couldnt possibly account for everything. manual could only take u so far.
for example when i was testing on vow.. while a good chunk of the moon is green grass. part of the ground is dirt brown near the main entrance.
so the giant was stomping up green dust on brown dirt.

[calm widget]

I can make it all pure gray as a config, but I have a feeling it'll be worse

[midnight verge]

i think when u had it showing gray before it honestly looked fine

[calm widget]

TheGiantSpecimens

v 1.6.5 QoL update

• Working on navmesh stuff, should feel better walking around and not approach the ship really~.
• Made it glow less and gave it a darker shade of red.
• Added a config option for footstep dust colour (normal colours or white).

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/

One day ill remember to add a video or image of the enemy in the README

[forest mulch]

no you wont 😈

[calm widget]

trust me itll look better 😭

[midnight verge]

😭

trust bro trust

[scenic prism]

Mangrove Giant time? 👀

[calm widget]

Driftwood

Also it'll be a bit of time lol

It'll be harder at first for me to get the guy working

[mortal moss]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-implodes-dry-garfield-implodes-garfield-dying-gif-22701602

[calm widget]

Cuz I gotta duplicate a lot of stuff that was pre written for the pink giant

[scenic prism]

Ohhh, Driftwood. Fair enough!
Masa's sure everyone is very patient about the time it will take to make it.

Right guys?

🔫

[pliant vault]

Ngl with the color it has looks pretty spooky

[restive terrace]

Tenticle monstaaa 😳

[shell glade]

The dust really should just be a grey/beige puff.

Realistically it's sand, dust, and sediment that gets kicked up even if it's stepping on grass. A puff of green doesn't really make sense no matter the context.

Also yeah the red glow does show the textures but it is kind of weird and looks strange.

Also @calm widget I can do a rendered image of the giant if you'd like that as an image showing it off.

[calm widget]

I'll take that 🙏

[calm widget]

It's a config option for those who want, the reason it doesn't look as good as it should be rn is cuz the shaders arent what I want them to be rn, will be changed hopefully soon with the help of an expert

[empty bay]

Honestly if you just desaturate the colours it picks up that might do the trick

[minor nymph]

how do we feel about this, chet?

(just gauging how people feel about textures)

[faint needle]

mmmm good textures my beloved

very cool

[minor nymph]

wait how df do you do that

[minor nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-dance-army-gif-14905671

[minor nymph]

how are you doing this btw? I wanna get into doing character modelling

[chilly field]

relative link if the images are stored in the repo or just some markdown

[minor nymph]

[chilly field]

just look at anyone's readme.md and see how they do it imo that's the easiest way

[chilly field]

oh nvm relative links are bad for readme files

[calm widget]

In my readme I credited eve sculpts who has a really good tutorial but to sum it up I use a 2d reference image, literally called a reference in blender, aligned on the x axis and then I use a round cube with radius 1, cut off half of it and use the mirror modifier, another way to do the actual shape is by having 1 vertices and using a skin modifier

[minor nymph]

Oh so you're just like extendeding it?

[calm widget]

Yep a lot of extruding

[minor nymph]

"extendeding"

[calm widget]

Idk what that means if that's an actual term lmao

[minor nymph]

no just me being dumb

[calm widget]

nah, I already have a fix that works in a lot more customisable way, itll just take me a while to get the resources

[ebon thistle]

he looks so fucking scary already jfc

[ebon thistle]

it alright

[midnight verge]

lmao i was messing around with the redwood giants

spawned two of them

one was starting to eat a forest giant

and the other one came in and snatched it out of its hand 🤣

bro stole his lunch

also the stomp particles look pretty realistic in VR

[elder coral]

Redwood giant is amazing on Rend

He is so huge yet the blizzard makes it hard to see him but I think it adds the awesomeness

Just hearing large footsteps while sometimes getting a glimpse of it

[minor nymph]

:D

[midnight verge]

looks like an actual dust cloud. its weird but it looks better in VR than on flatscreen lol.

maybe because VR is rendering at higher res

[midnight verge]

all i got is paint.net so i did my best to edit it xd

[mortal moss]

honestly yeah beige looks a bit better

[midnight verge]

i think i agree with meat ball demon, a beige color would make it look better. it makes it look like dirt dust.

white looks like smoke

Hex #9F8574

[radiant oracle]

@calm widget Hi sexy. Does this mod implement changes seen to giant behaviour in other tweaks like anti ship camp, changes in forgetfulness and chase aggression, fog vision. Or is the redwood just a remodelled original giant? Is behaviour programming your thing like would you implement fabled laser pointer chasing?

[calm widget]

😭 thank you and to answer your questions.
A. It has its own mechanics, not even closely related to the normal forest giant in terms of behaviour.
B. It's not a player v enemy type of enemy, its both a support and a detriment depending on how you see it, but it indeed avoids the ship and its 70 feet tall so it kinda skips the fog.
C. In terms of stuff for laser pointer, I don't think you would notice a laser the size of a finger if you were 70 feet tall, or would u really even care to follow the laser pointer

[calm widget]

I can add a hexcode for you guys tbh to select a colour you'd like, wouldn't wanna flood the config so much that it's for every moon so I'll just include this colour only that u posted

[radiant oracle]

K so you don't intent to modify original giant at all, to fit this series of enemies. Like biggest giants would be enraged only but pro or industrial flashlight, medium by normal flash, small by laser and bracken by flip lighter.

The fog clipping is a bit of a deal breaker for me. I know LC is sort aggressive with fog and it can be pretty stanky.

[calm widget]

Wut

[calm widget]

Again, wut

I think you're making conclusions on what the enemy does lol

[midnight verge]

configurable hexcode? ill take it.

i think he's talking about how the stomp particles clipping through the fog

[calm widget]

Yeah, enter an invalid one though and I'll set it to white 💀 you already know that much though

[calm widget]

Oh that

Yeah I'm working on a fix

I think it's fine mostly, a bit more transparency through the fog would be nice, but I already have a solution that might take a bit of time

[empty bay]

[midnight verge]

actually funnily enough i think the vanilla game's jetpack smoke clips through the fog. not sure if another mod was causing it, but i dont really have any mods that would effect the jetpack smoke.. at least i think so.

[midnight verge]

i saw him typing earlier and i did not expect him to start his message off with that 💀

[radiant oracle]

To clarify I saw this and the giant being way more apparent than anything else looks just slightly nasty.

[calm widget]

Current latest version is pinned

[radiant oracle]

Now when you rush out of the door landing on Rend look down you can see how the fog is pretty simple, a big volumetric that seems quite differently when youre on the inside of it.

[calm widget]

Like 4th pin or smthn

[radiant oracle]

Will try it one day

[radiant oracle]

Maybe you already smashed it.
Could the giant be "above" the fog and therefore flatly not as shaded as everything else.

[lilac dragon]

#1208964227835109407 message

[empty bay]

Ig this is a thing now 🥲

[calm widget]

That was enough of a greeting to last me a lifetime, next person to do it gets Timed out 😆

[calm widget]

Wdym? You just said u didn't like how his particles overstepped the fog

[radiant oracle]

No it was the other guy mentioned particles. Maybe it's true. The giant itself looks like it's shaded as though it were closer. Hang on I have an idea but requires a drawing about trigonometry.

[calm widget]

Ah you're on the opposite side of the fog argument

[empty bay]

Hey could you program in atmospheric lensing and haze real quick, thanks

[calm widget]

Yeah just gimme a second :p

[empty bay]

Yeah just press the make it look good button

[midnight verge]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-button-red-button-gif-25263713

[dim roost]

kibby.

[radiant oracle]

Ok turns out my hand drawing software is garbage and won't let me draw small Things lemme find a new one

(android)

[lilac dragon]

Hi ||xu xiaolan||

[calm widget]

Damn hey there hotshot

[radiant oracle]

ok so could it be that the centre of the giant is considered higher than the fog therefore due to trigonometry the amount of distance of fog between the player and the giant is only the length of the orange line under the Blue line, while fade apply to other objects like the purple one is stronger because the yellow line is entirely inside the fog ceiling

[lilac dragon]

[radiant oracle]

||MS paint math giant|| next terrifying new enemy

[calm widget]

Okay I understand your extremely good drawing

What's your point? idk why that sounds aggressive, it's not meant to be

[radiant oracle]

The giant in the vid above looks too clear compared to adjacent same distance objects

[calm widget]

Too clear, in the vid you replied to?

[radiant oracle]

Ye

I'll check in game later

[calm widget]

Can you check the video in the 4th pin and tell me how that feels?

[radiant oracle]

K

[calm widget]

I did reduce the emission on him since that videi

[radiant oracle]

How even to see pins on Android...

[lilac dragon]

Tap the top

Settings

[empty bay]

It's under settings for some reason

[lilac dragon]

Then pins

Can we crush discords skull

[empty bay]

Mods, crush their skull

Oh wait

Ig me making that joke doesn't make much sense anymore lmao

[radiant oracle]

Good lord

So watch that and had to turn my brightness way up even on OLED heh. Yeah it looks about right but it's a different moon from the other video so I can't know what the fog situation is. Not sure what the big rainbow [redacted] is about.

[midnight verge]

yeah he's not too glowy anymore

[radiant oracle]

Try rend vow march for the foggy stank and if those good it's good

[minor nymph]

we have to take into account that in this example the beige is also meshing well with the background fog, it needs testing on other moons w/o fog too I think

But also about it not being green is 100% right

white on snow, brown on dirt and grey on everything else

(grey should just be the default fallback colour)

[calm widget]

I can leave grey as the default lol

[midnight verge]

we should give his feet eyeballs so he can see what kinda ground he's stepping on 😩

[empty bay]

Afaik there isn't a way to do this in the base game, so having an effect like this would require adding some sort of atmospheric absorption system, which seems like overkill

[minor nymph]

A seperate mod entirely

but definitely one that would be dope af

Tbh there's gotta be plugins for exactly that

[empty bay]

Probably yeah

[radiant oracle]

I know a cheat solution if the images correct. You just move the central point of the giant down so the trigonometry doesn't rob you.

[minor nymph]

i have no idea what i just read

[empty bay]

I don't think I understand.. The current way the fog works as far as I can tell, I could be wrong, it doesn't multiply the amount it obfuscates with the amount of fog between you and a target like it would irl

[minor nymph]

Honestly I've literally no idea how fog currently works

[radiant oracle]

I figured it was based on distance within the volume.

[empty bay]

In a more realistic system yeah

[midnight verge]

i mean the top of the giant does seem more visible in the fog if ur high enough

[minor nymph]

The fog does end after a certain point

[empty bay]

Are you using graphics mods, or is this your editing?

[radiant oracle]

Does the top Vs the bottom of the giant have variance in obfuscation?

When you're closer

[midnight verge]

just straight recording.. but got this perspective with the freecam mod

[empty bay]

Oh that's base game?

Or just no extra graphics I should say

It looks way better than I'd imagine

[midnight verge]

i think my gamma is slightly lower than default, but i dont think i have any other mods fudging the graphics

[empty bay]

Hmmm interesting

[midnight verge]

this is on rend

[radiant oracle]

Looks good, fog is no trouble in that image video. Although I'm being reductive when I say fog, could be "Dustclouds" or other haze stuff

[midnight verge]

when ur low ground the fog is too strong to make out anything tbh

[calm widget]

Ingame? Doesn't actually lol

It clamps your view range

That's it

[minor nymph]

lol

[calm widget]

Okay it might do a tiny bit more than that, but assuming enemies and players see things kinda alike, then it's literally only a clamp between 1f and 30f

[empty bay]

Yeah the fog weather is straight up a hard coded range, but generic fog seems to just make a big cloud that doesn't thicken with distance

[radiant oracle]

Right so you're conflating rendering with the value used for restricting enemy agro and I also don't know if those can be related. I think there will be multiple things that affect how visible something is. Rolling fog volumes with alphas, haze, fixed volume around the player which is clear in the dungeon at you can see darkness tappers in a sphere fashion on flat walls.

I haven't done graphics in years just be warned there's a lot of potential tricks a dev can use.

[empty bay]

I mean none of us here really understand exactly how Zeekers set up the graphics so it's all speculation at this point and we're really getting nowhere

[radiant oracle]

Talk to a talented moon dev if needed they'll the best insight.

Lizard eepy now

[calm widget]

Actually sf desat probably would know best wouldnt he

alright, out of pure laziness in not wanting to model in blender today because i've been working on the mod for like 8 hours already, I decided to just mess with textures I have

for reference, I have like 4 different versions of different textures for this enemy, so, variation can be quite big lol

I'm trying to see how the "3d" version will look ingame

nevermind

big no no

my model must've just been so badly made it cant do that LOL

[minor nymph]

that's the benefit of my version :^]

[calm widget]

yep, though i think the left leg got a bit choppy somehow

[minor nymph]

how did u even manage that

[calm widget]

i was just looking at the animations and the left leg's hip was just a bit malformed while walking lol, most of it was my fault tho from the initial animations etc

but for some reason i think your version just exacberated it a tiny bit more

dunno how i never noticed it before

[minor nymph]

curious lmao

[calm widget]

also dunno what subsurface scattering is, but it kinda made the model look nicer ingame

though imma retest with the body you provided + the textures again, gonna see if some stuff i have would work for that 3d-ish look

[minor nymph]

It's uhh

Light lighting stuff if I remember right

[calm widget]

it did make it look more hell-ish in unity

but unity looks dont matter too much

it looks like a dark red figure ingame

may or may not be worse, not too sure

[calm widget]

horribly description but uhh

yeah

[calm widget]

dont think im gonna change the texture much

trynna mess with it for a while, no real good changes

[midnight verge]

subsurface scattering is light passing through opaque material. think like how ur ears glow red when really bright light is shining behind them

[calm widget]

gotcha

[midnight verge]

hell even closing ur eyes and facing towards the sun. the sunlight will make ur eyelids red.
it’s a pretty good way to help skin look a bit more fleshy and not plastic.

[calm widget]

lol

after tinkering for an hour

the current model has... not really changed 😂

[midnight verge]

i’m bringing up a lot organic examples, but it also applies to non living material too

[calm widget]

yeye i get what u mean lol

[midnight verge]

u tinkering with red giant model rn?

[calm widget]

not the model, but the textures

the model is finalised otherwise i'd have to play with animations again

i actually dont wanna touch the giant anymore tho, its been polished neough and i kinda wanna do the rest

[empty bay]

Subsurface scattering is how light travels through mediums like skin. Like how when you shine a torch through your hand and it glows red

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Shoulda scrolled

[calm widget]

wow I never knew that

thanks debby!

[empty bay]

You're so welcome for this new and fresh information 🥲

[calm widget]

can always rely on you, ol' quick and reliable

[empty bay]

I'm the quickest and most reliable at something that's for sure

[calm widget]

I... what does that mean?

[scenic prism]

👀

[chilly field]

at giving usele... i mean random useful information?

[empty bay]

I couldn't tell you, but I did say it quickly

And THAT you can count on, reliably

[calm widget]

icic

makes sense

[empty bay]

Sense is my largest export

I'm sorry get back to gianting 😭

[calm widget]

lol

i completely forgot what i was doing actually

i've been staring at my screen for 10 minutes

😂

modelling, right

honestly i was probably thinking of ways to make the mod better

Recently been feeling like the enemy is meh

[scenic prism]

What, the Redwood Giant?

Or the new one?

[empty bay]

I would probably suggest keeping redhead as it is for now and move on to driftwood, only doing bugfixes for redwood, cause it's hard to say what sort of features the redwood might need to feel less meh until the ecosystem of giants is bigger, which would also serve to inspire more ideas

[midnight verge]

redwood giants crumples u into a ball and slamdunks u

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-for-the-company-lethal-company-memes-gif-14215347766483224419

[midnight verge]

yeh.. more types of interactions between the giants that would be interesting

[radiant oracle]

Giants always eat smaller giants and you can feed them beehive to appease then xD
(Plus my light attraction idea)

[dim roost]

nother day, nother sketch. Flatwood Forest Keeper, an item eater. concept not unfamiliar, but a few mechanics are weaved in

[empty bay]

Item eater.... Ooh..

[dim roost]

dont leave your findings lying around after 5

natural enemy is the Circuit Bee

[radiant oracle]

Looks like a perverted onion

[dim roost]

shape was inspired by the Flatwoods Monster cryptid

or the head of it at least

[ebon thistle]

i fucks with that

[ebon thistle]

you deserve a rest brother, get that shit

[calm widget]

redwood

[ebon thistle]

my thoughts exactly

if you're feeling like the enemy's lackluster currently it might just need to bounce off your other enemies better

[restive terrace]

Just work on the new one and if you get some ideas while working on it, you can always find time to add mechs to redwood

I’d say manticoils attacking it (0 dmg just making him annoyed and flap his arms around) would be a kinda neat implementation

[dim roost]

um... that would require behavior modification of existing entities, would it not?
may conflict with other mods if others start tinkering with the birds.

[restive terrace]

Yeah that would be a huge work for a little aesthetic. Tho it’d add a lot in the immersion tbh

Just let my mind wonder a bit

[dim roost]

the idea amuses me nonetheless.

[calm widget]

I know of a weird way to implement it lol

[dim roost]

do tell .3.

[restive terrace]

👀

[calm widget]

just add my own birds like those cute lil idle game animations lol

that appear and disappear

[restive terrace]

Oh lol right 😂

It would not conflict with other mods and would be easier to make too.

[mortal moss]

yeah seeing manticoils fly around the redwood would be really cool

[dim roost]

i say wait til at LEAST Driftwood is out and about. would be nice to have a behavior overhaul, but after some other behaviors even exist

[restive terrace]

Just make sure to save ideas in a txt or on trello or idk xd

Im saving every idea in both tbh for my mods / upcoming mods

[calm widget]

Bold of you to assume I save ideas

If I remember em, I rememeber em

Else meh

[restive terrace]

😂😂

[elder coral]

GiantSpecimens got an update?

[calm widget]

Basically daily lol

[gusty talon]

Honestly it not having a mouth or eyes is scary in its own right

[calm widget]

Color dustColor = Color.grey; // Default to grey if no color found
            string footstepColourValue = Plugin.config.configColourHexcode.Value;
            if (string.IsNullOrEmpty(footstepColourValue)) {
                footstepColour = null;
            } else if (Regex.IsMatch(footstepColourValue, "^#?[0-9a-fA-F]{6}$")) {
                footstepColour = footstepColourValue;
            } else {
                Plugin.Logger.LogWarning("Invalid hexcode: " + footstepColourValue + ". Using default colour.");
                footstepColour = null;
            }
            List<string> colorsForCurrentLevel = levelColorMapper.GetColorsForLevel(levelName);
            if (footstepColour == null && colorsForCurrentLevel.Count > 0) {
                footstepColour = colorsForCurrentLevel[0];
            }
            if (footstepColour != null) {
                dustColor = HexToColor(footstepColour);
            }
            MainModule mainLeft = DustParticlesLeft.main;
            MainModule mainRight = DustParticlesRight.main;
            mainLeft.startColor = new MinMaxGradient(dustColor);
            mainRight.startColor = new MinMaxGradient(dustColor);
            LogIfDebugBuild(dustColor.ToString());

new colour stuff

with configs

basically if you leave the colour config blank, you use my pre-made colour stuff

if you give it a valid hexcode, itll use that globally

the current default hexcode in the config is the grey one

ill push the update out later

im a bit tired

[thorn sage]

sheeeeeeesh ur downloads are going crazy

already 49k

[calm widget]

Yeah it's going pretty nicely, feels like it'll hit a top soon tho

[restive terrace]

It might, but if you add new entities to it, more people will download it

[restive terrace]

I mean look at my downloads.
Its only an audio pack and I’ve got @low girder as my competition lol. When you release a big patch for it, it’ll take time but they’ll eventually start downloading it. (Idk what happened at 1.2.8, nothing huge happened in previous patches either)

[trim flax]

youd be suprised

[restive terrace]

It’ll skyrocket once people actually get informed about the mod.

[low girder]

The higher the number goes the higher the number goes the higher the number goes(x inf)

You just gotta get the attention of the mod sheep (the people who don’t try mods unless they have a ton of downloads)

[restive terrace]

I think most people wont download mods unless they have 30-40k+ downloadcounts.

And i mightve said a low number count too

[calm widget]

Hmm fair

[forest mulch]

yeah its really hard to actually break into the top spots, then once you do you just kinda stay there

[thorn sage]

also more downloads/upvotes is better visibility, which brings in new users

[trim flax]

my ass stagnated so hard from not updating in a month haha

[forest mulch]

exactly, you grind to get there then youre burnt out to keep going

[restive terrace]

Part of the reason why I didnt reupload mine with a more fitting name.. started with only one soundeffect, now theres a few more 🙄

[rocky sparrow]

you could reupload it with a more fitting name, remove the dll from your old version, add a dependency to your new version, and deprecate the old version and that's it

[restive terrace]

Yeah I know but the download count wont come with it

[rocky sparrow]

it will from the dependency

[restive terrace]

Oh wait really?

[rocky sparrow]

Well, a large portion of downloads come from existing users updating their mod

I really noticed that when I updated JetpackFallFix, which was very much behind JetpackWarning in downloads, but now it just surpassed it by a thousand downloads

[restive terrace]

I think I’ll just let it stay like that, made a new icon(next patch) for it and kinda made a lore around it

[thorn sage]

making the old one depend on the new one is hella smart

[rocky sparrow]

:3

[limpid whale]

you changed your role, I was wondering why you were suddenly green 😅

Also nice new pfp btw

[thorn sage]

u mean my pfp? my role was always green 😛

[limpid whale]

It's the pfp change that threw me off then

used to you being red

😂

[thorn sage]

lmaoo tyty just wanted to get rid of the default pfp cuz i kept getting confused when others with the red pfp say something

[limpid whale]

Lmfao

[ebon thistle]

yo wtf qwbarch that pfp is FLAMES

[calm widget]

Bro went from the most generic default discord pfp, to the most generic anime fan pfp

I'm not hating but it's funny 😂

[lilac dragon]

That’s what I’ve done before

[valid oar]

OH NAH THATS SO FUNNY 😭

bro's abouta to pull up on the cancer patient

[minor nymph]

what does that-

what does that even mean...?

[midnight verge]

the goku cancer patient meme

[minor nymph]

i have literally zero context on this

lmao

[thorn sage]

goku drip kinda fire tho LOOL

[ebon thistle]

IT IIIS

UI DRIP IS FLAMES

[calm widget]

lol

im kinda bored

dunno what to do with my time rn

[silk zodiac]

you should

[limpid whale]

Aren't you working on porting ImmersiveScraps to LethalLib?

[calm widget]

stop posting that gif around, heres a public warning :p

[silk zodiac]

:(

[calm widget]

not rn, waiting on the files

[limpid whale]

Can't you just download the mod from the Thunderstore page?

;o

Or is there stuff you need that's not there?

[calm widget]

hmm not sure tbh, I'll try it rq but i'd probably be missing some stuff lol

[limpid whale]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Justice69/ImmersiveScraps/ doesn't hurt

🙂

[calm widget]

lol i already doubt i can touch it

its a .lem

ill need the files he has of the scraps etc

[limpid whale]

Gotcha gotcha

[calm widget]

i guess ill introduce myself to scrap in the meantime

ill just make a whistle that the pink giant would follow or something

[limpid whale]

Make a Redwood Giant scrap x)

[calm widget]

a lil late to the thought

oh unless you mean a plushie

[limpid whale]

Yeah

[calm widget]

yeah that wouldnt be a bad idea

ill take a gander

[pliant vault]

Plush would be interesting if considered, I could see it being a 2 handed plush

[thorn sage]

fr ui drip goes hard 🔥

[empty bay]

Bro got that Ultra Instinct RIZZ

[calm widget]

feel free if anyone would like to draw the icon for it :p

[minor nymph]

just do what i do

[mortal tree]

so a new giants in the works?

sweet

redwood giant is already great the next gotta be just as good

[calm widget]

yee working on the next moon

right now since im bored im making scrap

lol

[lime lava]

sharkpog

[calm widget]

my first attempt at adding scrap

hmmmm

[minor nymph]

Have you given the item properties to the prefab

[calm widget]

yeah, i think i know what i did wrong tho

this is the problematic code, imma just get rid of it tbh dont see the point of it

[minor nymph]

no that's correct

[calm widget]

hmm

ah wait

i see why

dum dum i loaded the wrong assets

[minor nymph]

What is physics prop?

[calm widget]

thats the item script?

[minor nymph]

That should be something else

[calm widget]

thats how it is in game files too

i basicalyly did a 1 to 1 to them lol

[minor nymph]

Let me check

I might be misremembering

Oh right

I don't use the base item script anymore lopl

[calm widget]

lol, thats fair

[minor nymph]

your stuff matches this?

[calm widget]

its definitely not from that

its the way im loading the asset

[minor nymph]

wut

[calm widget]

cuz its not finding the obj

[minor nymph]

You don't want the OBJ you want the item script

Item properties script

[calm widget]

thats the obj

lol

[minor nymph]

why is it called obj

[calm widget]

good question, not too sure

[minor nymph]

Try doing (LevelTypes)(-1)

instead of leveltypes.all

[calm widget]

will try but likely wont work

its just not loading the asset

[minor nymph]

Yeah, that's probably because you set something up wrong in the prefab

It just says that if anything is wrong with your prefab

More than likely I'd assume you didn't drag your item properties into your prefab lol

That or something else

[calm widget]

its there lol

[minor nymph]

Is your audio source set up properly?

[calm widget]

should be yeah

[minor nymph]

Have you got box colliders and everything?

[calm widget]

yep

[minor nymph]

The only things that are required are the empty as the base, the box collider for picking it up, if you have a scan node, that needs a box collider too, audio source, and the base script

Everything NEEDS to have the correct layer and tags also

if it doesn't it wont work

Everything else is optional

[calm widget]

it should be working now

i was trynna remember how to make it part of the asset bundle lol

lol

it works, just gotta mess with its positions

not too sure how tho tbh

value 0?

ah nvm thats cuz they're spawned in

yeah it works

ill update later

[minor nymph]

That depends on the height of the model in the prefab

the pivot point of the empty is the resting spot

[wise briar]

Why RedWood and not Redwood out of curiosity?

[calm widget]

Hmm, formatting? Always did RedWood, DriftWood

Etc

Just seemed to make sense

[minor nymph]

For external names it really should be Redwood

[calm widget]

Maybe

[minor nymph]

they're real things xu lol

[calm widget]

I'm aware, they're based off the real life tree lol

[minor nymph]

yes

which is a Redwood xd

[calm widget]

Yeah I know

[minor nymph]

[calm widget]

Just looks more pleasant to me as RedWood lol, I'm a formatting freak :p

[minor nymph]

in code, yes, in english, no

xd

[calm widget]

In this one case they're one word

But usually yeah

[elder coral]

Hey am I supposed to be able hear the redwood giant's footsteps inside the mansion?

My screen shook a bit as well every footstep

[midnight verge]

imo i think its cool u can hear it from the inside.. but it should be quite faint sounding

is it loud too?

[midnight verge]

screen shake is also not supposed to happen.. only if ur close to it

[ember mauve]

Tbh there should be a config for inside footstep volume or smth or just a way to disable it

[midnight verge]

the footstep sound range is just realllyyy high

faraway enough for the interior to pick up the noise.. which is underneath the moon map

not the first time someone's reported screen shaking inside

that's not supposed to happen.. i wonder how its happening

[ember mauve]

Ah I see

[elder coral]

No not that loud, its faint

[midnight verge]

also same reason why u can hear the item drop ship from inside too

@calm widget how does the code work to figure out when to apply stomp screen shake to nearby players?

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#1208964227835109407 message

now there's been two separate reports of getting screen shake inside the dungeon

[long marten]

I like the mod 👍

Its epic

Probably one of the cooler things ive seen made here

[coral veldt]

same

[midnight verge]

Xu is aiming for the top of the download list for monsters category 😎

like the mod on thunderstore 👍

[coral veldt]

i think i liked it like a week ago but i will go make sure :]

i hope more ppl find this mod

[calm widget]

I think it was the jester stomper mod causing problems

[midnight verge]

#1208964227835109407 message

[midnight verge]

do you have JesterStompShake?

[calm widget]

Oh true, dunno what other mods he had tho

[radiant oracle]

Haha y'all just set the shake affect radius too big but I love the implication that the redwood is just that big. Unfortunately it sounds really messy because in reality the dungeon is hovering somewhere few hundred metres below the surface target than being at the doors.

[midnight verge]

shake effect should only be effecting players near the redwood giant's feet

so we're not really sure how it's affecting the interior

[calm widget]

Yeah just to be clear the range isn't a few hundred meters lmao

It's 50 meters, which is a very small amount, would probably cover 2 vow bridges

[sudden lichen]

i mean, from like an immersion pov, the interiors are close to the outside ofc, so makes sense you could feel it with him stomping outside
From a technical pov, the interiors are just like, really far under the surface of the map but on the same map

[calm widget]

Which is why there's definitely a mod conflict, it can't be me that's causing these tremors

Plus no ones recorded a video yet! From what I'm hearing, it's not the smallest setting

[midnight verge]

the weird thing was Autumnis was unaffected, but his friend inside was

[radiant oracle]

Can't wait for you to figure this one out. Strange and interesting.

[midnight verge]

we dont know the conditions to replicate this bug 🤔

[sudden lichen]

wait

its not intentional??

[calm widget]

Inside shaking is intentional to some extent

But the range and shakeness that some people are describing is definitely not

[calm widget]

okay the stomping problem might've been on my end

should be fixed now, ill push an update later

[midnight verge]

🕺

[calm widget]

lil stuck to the wall

[midnight verge]

help me step-employee, im stuck

is that gonna be in the new update? giant scrap?

[calm widget]

lol some bug fixes plus that yeah

[midnight verge]

looks heavy

[pliant vault]

Looks like a action figure

[upbeat sigil]

I hope its optional or have config to disable it. I like just having vanilla scraps or close to vanilla scraps.

[restive terrace]

Kinda looks like a plushie scrap lol

Oh wait

WHAAAT

I need it!

[midnight verge]

the perfect body pillow

[calm widget]

lol i can make it configurable

[magic wyvern]

@calm widget
Question... when the Forest keeper is eaten. Is it considered an entity death?

Becauuuuuuuuuuuuse. If so I would be interested in adding the item you are about to add as a 100% drop chance high-value item that players can try to get in the Shattered Company modpack, you know after mister forest keeper gets nom nomed.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheFluff/GetLootForKills/

[calm widget]

i mean, if i make a forest giant plushie im sure i can make it drop it when eaten or smthn

for now though

v 1.6.6 QoL update

• Added a config option for footstep dust colour (normal colours or white).
• Fixed Stomping being global to everyone after one person comes to range (please test and tell me how it goes).
• Added a RedWood Giant plushie scrap, worth a decent bit.
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/

[SCRAP UPDATE] TheGiantSpecimens

[magic wyvern]

No, what I mean is I am currently using this mod to create my drop loot pool for SC. Forest Giants are unkillable by the player and cannot drop loot. However, if the way the Forest keeper dies is considered an entity death. I may be able to make this work. 😛

[elder coral]

No, and there wasn't even a jester anyways

[calm widget]

oh whoops, apparently i already posted half of this update

[midnight verge]

1.6.5 is current version tho

[calm widget]

shhh

[midnight verge]

🙊

[calm widget]

i dont remember uploading that version

lol

[midnight verge]

but anway i got excited for a moment but then remembered it will take a while for it to actually show up on the mod manager 😱

[elder coral]

The shake is very subtle

[midnight verge]

wanted to get to messing with the stomp dust color

[calm widget]

oh right

the hexcode picker

bleh, gimme like 10 minutes to add that rq

[midnight verge]

if u encounter it again, pls record + copy of ur console log 🙏 it helps a lot.

[calm widget]

shake should be fixed

nvm i already coded in hexcode picker

[elder coral]

I was recording when it was happening, but if it does happen again, I'll probably will be already recording as i always record

[calm widget]

like it never even happened

[midnight verge]

😎

[elder coral]

Can't wait to find the new scrap item

Oh! So the stomps hurt enemies right?

[midnight verge]

"Footsteps can damage baboon hawks and dogs now."

[calm widget]

ye

oh shit

i left some debugging tool on

LOL

[midnight verge]

🙈

[calm widget]

whoops :p

[midnight verge]

well that sucks

people are gonna wonder where all the hoarding bugs, spiders, and centipedes went

[elder coral]

Will they ever be able to damage mimics?

[midnight verge]

well that changelog note certainly makes it sound like it only affect those two monsters

xu?

[elder coral]

I can just imagine leading a mimic to a redwood and getting him crushed

[calm widget]

That's not the tool I left on lol

I reuploaded anyway

[calm widget]

I can add that later ye

[calm widget]

I just got it smh

[midnight verge]

heh

[midnight verge]

so it really does only affect just those two monsters? any reasons why or it just takes a bit of effort to incorporate more entities to be affected by it?

[calm widget]

I just didn't add any more really lol

[elder coral]

Om nom nom nom

[subtle forge]

Scrap Update? :3

You added scrap items? :o

[calm widget]

Ye

Added a plushie of the giant

Eventually I'll make a whistle to attract the giant

[chilly field]

also

i saw a redwood giant

really far in the distance

on rend

it looked so good

[mortal moss]

can the scrap be disabled?

[chilly field]

don't you dare disable the plushie

[subtle forge]

"Come to me my little guy" :3

[calm widget]

Ye

[calm widget]

Little guy huh

[abstract relic]

Can we make the giant doawn on LLL moons or is that still not possible?

[minor nymph]

Pretty sure this should just work on LLL, if xu has done the moon spawn options correctly

[calm widget]

I honestly can't remember if it was fixed, u can try adding something like "AuralisLevel@9999" in the config and checking if it worke

That's not up to me

LL was broken for a while

Lol

[minor nymph]

Oh I see

[calm widget]

Hamunii is working on fixing it, not sure if she's fixed it all yet or not

[limpid whale]

Did you ever hear from the dev of ImmersiveScraps yet?

[abstract relic]

Would it work by using LethalQuantities instead?

[calm widget]

Yeah I'll be porting the scrap bit by bit as time goes on

[calm widget]

Probably? Dunno tbh

[limpid whale]

I look forward to the big ones like the lamp, hat, and lantern tbh lol

There's other stuff too I think are really cool ^^ some stuff I can definitely see myself disabling though 😆

[clear valley]

SCRAP UPDATE !?

i thought this just gonna be creature only

[limpid whale]

Xu wanted to get into making Scraps cus they're porting ImmersiveScraps to LL, and I suggested they make a Redwood giant plushie scrap

🙂

[clear valley]

wasnt immersivescraps made by Justice69 ? are there are another immersivescrap outthere

or u mean they wanna help porting it

[calm widget]

They're no longer really involving themselves with lc modding so I offered to port + maintain it

Might add to it over time, integrate it, we'll see

[minor nymph]

integrate it?

don't integrate it with this mod lmao

[calm widget]

Integrate some scraps

Ik

[minor nymph]

oh right

[calm widget]

Like if there's a whistle

Model

[minor nymph]

yes yes

instead of people downloading the funny giant mod and getting 100 new scraps

[calm widget]

Lol yeah

They'll all be toggelable anyway

[clear valley]

whats ll again

[minor nymph]

I do like immerseive scraps

Lethal Lib

[clear valley]

ooooooooooooo

forgive me eva

ill go check the giant again

[clear valley]

glad there is no terminal guy today 😂

[midnight verge]

aztec death whistle

[ebon thistle]

couldn't you just make it attracted to the air horn?

not opposed to the idea i'm just wondering hehe

[minor nymph]

real for that

would be fairly simple to do too, I think

[ebon thistle]

i just really like giving dumb items already in the game more functionalities lmao

[ebon thistle]

probably! i don't know anything bout coding but it seems simple enough

[minor nymph]

Well it would be a case of detecting if a player has honked the horn and getting the location of that player, then telling the giant to go to the player's position

the hardest part would be telling if a player honked the horn xd

[calm widget]

I mean it's all very easy, I'm just more attracted to the idea of making it approach the location of the whistle lol

[minor nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[calm widget]

Lol

I can probably do both

[ebon thistle]

i do like having a whistle though lmao

[safe maple]

Does the Redwood Giant still slide when it picks up a forest giant or has that been fixed?

[calm widget]

mostly been fixed

[restive terrace]

oh boi here we go https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/s1ckboy/Giant_Theme/

static background but this is just the first version 😄

cant wait to switch it to the animated one

[midnight verge]

it happens sometimes, but not super often like before

[calm widget]

Oh nice

btw

i would switch from Asset Replacement to mod

[restive terrace]

true

i'll reupload it i guess

[calm widget]

cuz u cant find asset replacements in the mod section

nah not reupload

theres a button

lol

somewhere around here

[restive terrace]

oh lol right

i found it xd

[midnight verge]

xu, the current solution for the giant sliding issue is turning off the collision between redwood and forestkeeper when it gets picked up?

[calm widget]

i turn off all the colliders of the forest keeper yes

[midnight verge]

it’s already turned off before they even get picked up?

[calm widget]

ye

well maybe it does miss some components in the children

[midnight verge]

so it only disables upon collision

[restive terrace]

btw Xu I'd also like to make one about the driftwood giant too later, but thought I'd mention it 😛

[midnight verge]

so extremely briefly, collision is still happening before it gets disabled

[restive terrace]

they would be in the same mod and would switch from one to another

on start and on quiting from game to menu

[safe maple]

great

[midnight verge]

what about disabling collision between the two entities from the get go prior to collision and changing from collision to trigger collision… if they have trigger collision for 3d?

i remember dabbling a bit in 2d game development on unity and they had trigger collision which was a way of detecting collision without the physics collision part.

[calm widget]

sure, i dont mind

[calm widget]

hmm maybe

[midnight verge]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/CollidersOverview.html

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Collider.OnTriggerEnter.html

[midnight verge]

not sure if ur able to see lethal company's code.. but maybe u could look at the Girl's code for reference because i think she has no collision physics.. she's maybe utilizing trigger collision.

[calm widget]

oh i know about isTrigger

its just something ill have to think about

a lot of the colliders were made to not be on trigger because they're meant to simulate an actual body

[midnight verge]

haha the sound

might have to turn up the sound (for the video)*

but the stomp noise is faint.. and there's no screen shake

i think as it is, it's perfectly fine.. kinda adds to the tense atmosphere

[silk zodiac]

@calm widget make the plushes eyes glow to :D

[calm widget]

maybe lol

[midnight verge]

make it eat ur other scraps 😱

[silk zodiac]

then it gains the other scraps value 💀

[empty bay]

Loathsome Scrap Eater

[silk zodiac]

@calm widget if you wouldent mind me asking, how do i add my dll to a actual mod?

[minor nymph]

what does this mean

[silk zodiac]

how do i upload a mod

[minor nymph]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/create/

[silk zodiac]

i mean what do i do with the dll? i can upload a modpack but idk where to put the dll

like this?

[dim roost]

https://i.gyazo.com/45178b7d208e09f08ceadce0c59be913.png

so i found 33 of these handsome devils in just 3 quotas

[midnight verge]

bro about to start the rumbling

[sudden lichen]

yeah, the default weight is rly high, like 100 or something for them
i set them rly low for all moons except the ones they actually spawn on

[calm widget]

Oh you meant the scrap

The default weight should be like 50

What da heck

Can u show configs

[upbeat sigil]

It had 50000 on Rend as default value

[chilly field]

lmfao

[calm widget]

Ah yeah I forgot

You can change that

I forgot rend is like, the moon everyone goes to as well

[mortal moss]

personally i think the default weight should be 5

[calm widget]

5 is like, cash register lmao but again, weight is up to you

[mortal moss]

50 puts it EVERYWHERE though, especially on modded moons

[calm widget]

50 is like, lower than you think lol, it's like big bolt or less

For reference, a big bolt is 80 on experimentation

Metal sheets are 90

[mortal moss]

on etern, basically every other scrap was a redwood plush

[calm widget]

That shouldn't be right

[empty bay]

I haven't seen any scrap with weights above 30 tbh

[calm widget]

If this is anything to trust then... https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1209786339239923723

[empty bay]

Hm weird, idk what my LQ config default weights would be based on if that's accurate

Oh nvm I must be mistaken, the weights do seem to be accurate there

I don't see many modded scraps going that high in any case

Shouldn't be as common as people are describing tho

[calm widget]

Yeah I don't get why every other scrap would be the plushie

Doesn't make much sense

They can adjust in configs tho

[limpid whale]

I set it to be 15 for every moon, so the scrap feels like it spawns about on par with the scraps in Lethal Things

Cus yeah by default we found sooooo many

[minor nymph]

All of my stuff is like sub 30 weight

Some are sub 10 xd

[ebon thistle]

humungosaurioo

[calm widget]

lol

i'll be taking a break for this weekend, I'd just like sometime to pursue my hobby and concentrate on that for a bit, when im back ill fix the scrap config default values, ill try to make a whistle scrap that works in attracting the giant, and then ill continue porting immersivescrap scraps.
Depending on how the weekend goes it might take longer or less to do all these things tbh.

[calm widget]

oh and for anyone curious, my hobby's drawing :p

oh and also also, replacing the giant scrap model with a better one later

this one's by @sintengo, apparently he made me a plushie without ever opening my thread? cant ping him 😂

[subtle gale]

nah im here

[calm widget]

ahhhhh i added an n thats why

but yeah, absolutely adorable plushie design by him ^

[limpid whale]

I wanna see it

[calm widget]

this one's a tiny bit outdated so it looks even better, but its adorable

[limpid whale]

Super cute

When is the update being pushed?

[calm widget]

^^

[limpid whale]

Oki

[calm widget]

if im feeling especially bored, ill put the plushie and fix the config, but it would take me like an hour so probably monday or tuesday

[limpid whale]

Fair 🙂

[dreamy widget]

Just gonna throw a quick Message in here so i can follow along

[lime lava]

dancing

[sudden lichen]

So in ur config its fine

But in LLL

for vow

might just be LLL being funky about custom scrap again

i fixed with LQ in my pack

[calm widget]

what the heck lol

[ebon thistle]

HAHAHA OH MY GODD

SO CUT

E

[limpid whale]

If only LQ wasn't a pain to mess with

I can't wait a for a replacement to come out that works like AdvanedCompany's did, that's the only feature I really miss from it

[sudden lichen]

i honestly found it nice once i got used to it

alot of control

the presets n stuff are nice, just gotta learn how to use it

[lilac dragon]

thats why people dont like it a ton i think
too much control makes the process take aw hile if you dont need all that control

[sudden lichen]

true
it caused me pain at first

but once i got the hang of it i loved it

[calm widget]

i figured out the problem with the scrap

ill push an update soon, even though i'd like to take a break

:<

[limpid whale]

Well at least you can take a break after and rest easy knowing chaos isn't being wreaked anymore ^^

I helped Xu find the bug btw, cus I kept lowering the scrap weight and it kept spawning like crazy 😆

[ebon thistle]

you dont gotta brother, just take it easy!

[calm widget]

i've already done most of it lol

annoyingly im facing a bug im not sure where its coming from

cant interact with it or scan it

[midnight verge]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-bow-michael-scott-the-office-gif-18616386

[limpid whale]

Lmao why is it bowing at you?

It's like "Yes master"

😂

[subtle gale]

I remember this bug happening to me while trying to make a random scrap item, have no idea what causes it or how to fix it :(

[calm widget]

i can scan with it now, i had the wrong layer

still cant interact tho weirdly

oh i bet you i got thel ayer for the scrap wrong

is it a physics prop layer?

[limpid whale]

That sounds right tbh, it would also explain it sitting wrong lol

[calm widget]

dang

[subtle gale]

just checked that one scrap and i had it on the wrong layer

modding is awesome

[calm widget]

lmao

yep

guess i have to open some random ingame item and cross check the settings

[limpid whale]

btw for you sintego I'm adding your monster and scavenger plushies to my pack lol

to go with the new RedWood plushie

((My friends are gonna bitch about me adding more mods but it's okay 😅))

[subtle gale]

i can relate to that

[limpid whale]

I saw the Forest Giant plushie you were working on btw 🙂 Looking forward to that update 😄

[subtle gale]

thanks :]

[limpid whale]

Yw 💜

[abstract relic]

Yeah I also want to add them, they look so well made

the only problem is that I would need to add each one of them one by one on every moon in LethalQuantities 😭

[limpid whale]

It has a config option that tells it to spawn them on all moons

so you may not

[abstract relic]

even LLL moons?

[limpid whale]

Honestly I won't ever use Lethal Quantities for a reason

Lol

Does too much for what I need, and I cbf to mess with it

[abstract relic]

I don't even know if that would work or get overwritten by LQ

[limpid whale]

Who knows

[calm widget]

soon^TM

actually it might already be working for LLL moons

i cant remember tbh

someone would have to do AuralisLevel@20000 and tlel me what they see

[trim flax]

No promises but if wesley moon stuff continues to go smoothly i might look into scrap v. soon

[calm widget]

remind me why you're looking into scrap anyway

[limpid whale]

Probably so custom map and interior makers don't need an extra dependency

[calm widget]

def not that, that would be a pretty bad reason lol

[limpid whale]

Idk for sure

It's my very uneducated guess

[trim flax]

It’s possible I could make a tool to convert LE scrap to LL/LLL scrap and because LLL has more info and LL isn’t receiving any more content updates, as currently the only person primarily pushing content api stuff forward it makes a lot more sense for me to do that in my mod

[limpid whale]

I know LethalLib has some bugs like stuff showing in the store for scrap mods even when disabling it in their configs

[calm widget]

yeah but it feels like somethings gonna go wrong if everything is in one api tool is my problem

[limpid whale]

I can see your point with that Xu

[trim flax]

I think there’s absolutely some points for that in other circumstances but right now with how unstandardised the community is and the lack of “competition” for lack of better word, It does make sense to push everything forward the same way

[calm widget]

at the very least it should be a very low priority because the only current problem im aware of is LL and LLL loading times (which hamunii is fixing), i can understand if v50 breaks scrap and theres no way to update it

[calm widget]

i do get that, i've heard complaints of how unstandardised LC crap is

[trim flax]

theres a lot of fundemental problems in two different mods juggling order of execution in all that.

again, no promises because i havent jumped into it but its been in the back of my head for abit and the initial implementation might actually just use a super basic version of LLL scrap scriptableobject as a frontend and then send that to lethallib via code for now

so people can move to LLL at their own leisure and then i can swap out registering it to LL to my own stuff when thats ready

ill be talking to people like you for author/client feedback when i mess with it so we can ensure best feet forward

[calm widget]

that would be good

though currently im being wscrewed around by the scrap rn, i hate how unity is probably the reason this isnt working

[trim flax]

I think to reassure what your saying in particular, I have no intent on making a change that sets custom scrap implementation backwards if you know what i mean

[calm widget]

that should be fine then, I just think you have better things to be doing than worry about scrap as things currently stand

[trim flax]

the problem in particular isn't worrying about scrap, it's worrying about my stuff working well with LL and LE, and because both mods have no major development future going forward, there's a lot of value in getting authors to move from those two to my api sooner than later

especially for v50

if both were being actively developed that would be a different story

(and ofc ive talked to both authors about this)

the content matching for scrap and enemies will also be awesome to have in

[calm widget]

@subtle gale i believe my problem was that the scan node covered the grab hitbox

very.. stupid

[subtle gale]

glad you figured it out

[calm widget]

v 1.6.8 bug fixes

• Fixed scrap config rarity.
• Attached better model on the scrap.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/

will take a bit

[limpid whale]

💜

I hate that I can't use my emotes from my server in here 😦 wanted to post Lunxara love ;c

[calm widget]

should be able to if you have nitro

[midnight verge]

when we change the stomp dust color, do we need to include the #?

[chilly field]

doesnt seem so, xu

[limpid whale]

Nah it was disabled for the mod releases thread for some reason and idk why

I used to be able to

But it randomly got disabled at some point and now you can only use discord emotes or emotes from this server unless you have the modder role or something

Idk why perms got changed

[calm widget]

its been gone for a while, for good reason

[calm widget]

if its in the config, then yes

bepinex removed the #, but keep the # lol

[limpid whale]

Yeah it's a shame, guessing some people were using emotes they shouldn't have

[calm widget]

ill change it on monday/tuesday, but hexcode colours might not work

the default is currently grey, but it just might not work