Xenomorph

[cedar leaf]

aight i need an idea for loading text

[raw harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-aliens-movie-run-gif-5951664

[tawdry lark]

loading text... ?

where

[cedar leaf]

for the scp it looks like this #1220909278198497410 message

23s

says Securing SCPs... - i'm planning to add a loading image to the menu for the Alien theme

[tawdry lark]

oh

[cedar leaf]

dont know what to write

"Hatching the eggs..." or something like that xd

"Clearing the area.."

what do you think?

[tawdry lark]

that's a placeholder image right x)

[cedar leaf]

for a loadingscreen yeah

[raw harbor]

Arriving to LV426

Consulting Mother

Boarding Nostromo

Counting our lucky stars

Awaking crew

[tawdry lark]

How thing going over there ?

[drowsy mulch]

This is definitely the mod I am most excited about

[tawdry lark]

ya right

i have not made any notable progress since last time as i have been kinda occupied and kidnapped

and tired for some reason

think imma ask to lower the meds doses

[tawdry lark]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F57d6ymno1ntc1.jpeg

is me

[signal tendon]

There's no hurry. I've done most of the animations but I also sadly kinda got burnt out with Lethal so I took a break to not force myself and am just gonna wait for v50 to fully come out to see what mods I'll have to bin

[royal girder]

Once I saw a Xenomorph idea, I got really excited, idc how long I must wait, I just need one

[tawdry lark]

I will not let you down

[tawdry lark]

btw we should test if your animations works in the engine

like to be sure your not doing it for nothing

also i spent time working on another project, i am redoing a Dungeons string generator using google sheet

but i am doing it clean, with a form and all so it is easy to use

[royal girder]

From what i see it looks great, keep up the good work

[brave orchid]

#1229476065068449873 message don’t let this go to waste help me cook here

@here is this even still active?

Oops didn’t mean use @ here

[signal tendon]

The development is still ongoing although all of the coding lays in @tawdry lark's hands so you'd have to ask him if he's still interested in continuing the mod after the changes made to the AI logic post V50

[brave orchid]

Ok I hope my post can be of use to you guys

[heady bobcat]

If you guys need help, please do tell me, I'd be ready to work one this or take the relay if Fooxyn is having trouble. not rn rn, but i the summer I will be able to work A LOT 👌

(in exacly 1 month) but still can finish it if all animations, sounds and other stuff is ready

[brave orchid]

Use some of this if needed we should make this the best it can be

[brave orchid]

I think the model should be a drone not a warrior

[heady bobcat]

I think they already have their model tho

#1208886415027343360 message

[brave orchid]

Yea but that particular variant doesn’t make sense for this mod unless there’s more than one

[heady bobcat]

Hive mind would be fun 😈

[brave orchid]

And there’s have to a queen in order for a xeno to even aquire that design

In short the drone or big chap just fits better

Imma add some stuff from my post in here: We desperately need an alien mod it should come with a custom map (lv-426) where it is a garenteed spawn for it , but it can still spawn in other maps there are 2 facilities on lv-426 the derelict ship and the nostromo wreckage, just like the bracken it can be stealthy where it’ll kidnap players and impregnate them with the ovamorph egg which will allow more to spawn if you don’t save your friends in time although it’s not a garenteed thing it’ll do as it’ll also be extremely aggressive so you might get kidnapped or it may just kill you , with this mod there’ll be two new items: the motion tracker, and the flamethrower, the flamethrower can be used to keep it at a distance (almost forgot to mention impregnated players don’t die immediately allowing xenos to get both outside and inside and if you and an impregnated player escape together you’ll both die) if you hit a xenomorph with a shovel it will spray acid blood on you eventually (and somewhat quickly) killing you, xenos are fast and unpredictable, and may attempt to maul you, if you have the skinwalker mod xenos will not mimic players voices , if it grabs you it may bite through your face or it may kidnap you, there are many different ways it may kill you, it’s taller than the players too, and may stalk you, it can also climb.

Taken directly outta mine and transferred into here

Also the alien big chap is overall a scarier design

[tawdry lark]

ayo

i'm still working on it

tho would like to know what has changed with the v50

[vocal grove]

We desperately need the xenomorph in lethal company 🙏 🙏

[brave orchid]

Be sure to change the model to a drone a warrior doesn’t make sense

[tawdry lark]

i am doing the prog part

[brave orchid]

Ah

[tawdry lark]

for the rest you guys can argue

idk how easy it is to swap for an animator point of view

but for me this is very easy

for the behavior part however...

[signal tendon]

The AI hit detection, the spawning system. Just a lot

[signal tendon]

If you have a better model we could use, you can just post it here, although redoing all the animations really seems like a pain in the ass

[signal tendon]

That all sounds cool and all. But currently working on that single enemy alone is taking a lot of time, so I don't know if we are ever gonna reach the moment of just messing around with the mod and adding some stuff to make it more "lore-friendly". Let's remember, it's a mod for Lethal Company, not a full fledged Alien universum game.

[brave orchid]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/ps1low-poly-xenomorph-1979-alien-7ec8ecca16f44235ac6b8a1291b72d19 this perfect and if a friend of mine lets us borrow his model I’ll send another one

[tawdry lark]

it should come with a custom map (lv-426)
there are 2 facilities on lv-426 the derelict ship and the nostromo wreckage
I would love that too, but those are much more artist kinda mod where it is needed to make models, but i would gladly try to work on it if this part is done by someone else (but i finish the xeno first)

it can be stealthy where it’ll kidnap players and impregnate them with the ovamorph egg which will allow more to spawn if you don’t save your friends in time although it’s not a garenteed thing it’ll do as it’ll also be extremely aggressive so you might get kidnapped or it may just kill you
almost forgot to mention impregnated players don’t die immediately allowing xenos to get both outside and inside and if you and an impregnated player escape together you’ll both die
This would be great, but the game do not allow for too much. Raids on moons are kinda short, having a alien like reproductive cycle is hard to pull off in a nice way with the game mechanics. Getting kidnapped tho i was thinking of it.

_

there’ll be two new items: the motion tracker, and the flamethrower
We have to think how the flamethrower will function with the other entities, especially in the damage it does, cause enemies have very short amount of health that are not designed to work with tiny amount of damage (need to reconfirm that tho with the new knife, idk how it work yet). The motion tracker is doable but i am wondering about the utilitie of it when there is already a monitor with enemy marked. I thought of making the alien actually not marked on it, but maybe appearing intermittently when it moves ?

if you hit a xenomorph with a shovel it will spray acid blood on you eventually (and somewhat quickly) killing you
Yes, but lets not make it too punishing. It will spray acid blood that cause tiny amount of damage as long as you touch it. Will work with shotgun too, spraying the wall behind with lot of acid.

All i said is open to suggestion

[brave orchid]

Getting hit with acid blood from shotgun should depend on distance between you and the xeno from a distance you won’t get burned but up close you will (the xeno should not be killable)

[signal tendon]

That model is very low polly. As the title says in the name of the model "PS1 style", that's not what Lethal Company artistic direction is like

They are low-detailed, but at the same time smooth. I'd more compare them to xbox360

[brave orchid]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/xenomorph-6464eec7d3254e978a4b42c06def6660 https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/alien-model-35372eb8a97d4b01807a28c1bc80b434 https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/xenomorph-a11deceefccf4a02870fd14f4fd18e72

Here’s some

[tawdry lark]

for the art part i let u guys decide...
but for the behavior, as long as you can describe in details how it work within the game with it fitting in lethal company and not being a too OP of an enemy

[brave orchid]

Hopefully Mr troodon responds

[signal tendon]

And those are too detailed for Lethal's style.

[tawdry lark]

Mr Troodon ? :v

[brave orchid]

https://youtu.be/ynnU6kwMgE0?si=0XCXVYgDpus4mnAY here’s Mr troodons work

[tawdry lark]

nice stuff

[tawdry lark]

can you give more info on this ?

didn't tested yet on the v50

[signal tendon]

You'd have to ask someone else for details, but all mods adding creatures broke when it came to hit detection and spawning weight. Scopophobia causes no monsters to spawn for example

[tawdry lark]

i have seen this with another mod

imma ask to some of them

[brave orchid]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/stylized-xenomorph-9bafa0d2979c482e9c241b08836cf0c5 https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/xenomorph-xx121-f00637df1d8b41c8ba60bb51dba51352 https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/xenomorph-afb0d77809be48da86d25d96d26c6f67 https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/alien-xenomorph-adb650a3ac3c4733b26e37c4a97a856a

Here’s some more

[tawdry lark]

bro is motivated

[signal tendon]

Now I'm confused, coz I'm pretty sure none or one of them is a drone and the rest are just some extended universe things or fan-made

[brave orchid]

The one by faz is definitely a drone

[signal tendon]

Pretty sure drones had 6 fingers and a different carapace

[brave orchid]

Yes I’m some instances pretty sure faz’s one is based on isolation drones

I’m trying to get ahold of Mr troodon

[signal tendon]

Isolation drones had 6 fingers. You could see it in the killing animation. And I'm pretty sure one of the models you posted was an Isolation rip and had 6 fingers

Yeah, this one is the rip
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/xenomorph-a11deceefccf4a02870fd14f4fd18e72

[brave orchid]

Would it work ?

[signal tendon]

It would work, but it's a too detailed model as I said. I don't really see the sense in changing the model we already have in all honesty

[tawdry lark]

@heady bobcat do you know about the v50 ai changes shenanigans ?

[heady bobcat]

Usually, V50 main big thing that broke peoples AI is the Ihittable function which they added a parameter

At least, that is what broke all my monsters

The spawning system changed a bit, but it's not a big deal since API will fix the changes

[tawdry lark]

alright

[brave orchid]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/daily-vr-sketch-april-25th-alien-cf0d967c87f7488a9a1a5fd8c2cbdda5 this is as close to troodon’s model as I could find

[brave orchid]

Really as long as the xenomorph has the dome and not the bare skull it’s considered a drone

[tawdry lark]

bare skull ¿

[brave orchid]

Here

[brave orchid]

Warriors have exposed skulls instead of a dome

Also I thought up some special scrap that can be on lv-426

[tawdry lark]

oh oké, cau u remind me why we should use drones ?

[tawdry lark]

that would be with the moon/interior mod

[brave orchid]

Drones are simply make more sense as a warrior can’t exist without the queen

[tawdry lark]

who said there was no queen c:<

[brave orchid]

Oh?

[tawdry lark]

oh !

[brave orchid]

So the matriarch is in this?

[tawdry lark]

well, could be one day i guess, or just simply saying there is some kind of nest somewhere not reachable (just for lore accuracy sake)

but if mama has to be, she will be exterior only

(or in a dedicated interior that is big enough)

[brave orchid]

Dedicated interior would be cool

[tawdry lark]

but that is for later, lets focus on finishing the v1.0 of the xeno

[brave orchid]

Newborn xenos from players would have to start as drones though

Keep in mind warriors are an evolutionary stage triggered by the queen’s presence

Also I feel the drones are more iconic

[tawdry lark]

like i said earlier, newborn and all xeno life cycle thing wouln't fit right in a so short type of game mission that lethal company does

so either we don't, or we change it a bit for it to fit

[brave orchid]

https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/character/sci-fi-character/xenomorph-alien-lowpoly

Maybe this one

[tawdry lark]

as skinny as i

[old stump]

Low poly Is Better Is more vanilla like

[brave orchid]

I know I’m trying

[brave orchid]

Also it is low Polly

[old stump]

Yes i love It it's way Better than the others i have seen before

[brave orchid]

It may not be the final one though if Mr troodon decides to join

He’s coming

[brave orchid]

@lyric plover

Here’s the project

[tawdry lark]

oh lawd he comin

[brave orchid]

Am only now realizing this wouldn’t work because of it being the nostromo wreckage

[brave orchid]

instead of both dying when escaping with the host the chestburster timer will pause until you get to the next moon where it will then burst out and set up a hive somewhere whether it’s inside the facility or not, you won’t know until you our your friend gets kidnapped

[brave orchid]

Get ready the goat is coming

[lyric plover]

Okay there we go

So whats your approach with this?

[brave orchid]

My approach was this: We desperately need an alien mod it should come with a custom map (lv-426) where it is a garenteed spawn for it , but it can still spawn in other maps there are 2 facilities on lv-426 the derelict ship and the nostromo wreckage, just like the bracken it can be stealthy where it’ll kidnap players and impregnate them with the ovamorph egg which will allow more to spawn if you don’t save your friends in time although it’s not a garenteed thing it’ll do as it’ll also be extremely aggressive so you might get kidnapped or it may just kill you , with this mod there’ll be two new items: the motion tracker, and the flamethrower, the flamethrower can be used to keep it at a distance (almost forgot to mention impregnated players don’t die immediately allowing xenos to get both outside and inside and if you and an impregnated player escape together you’ll both die) if you hit a xenomorph with a shovel it will spray acid blood on you eventually (and somewhat quickly) killing you, xenos are fast and unpredictable, and may attempt to maul you, if you have the skinwalker mod xenos will not mimic players voices , if it grabs you it may bite through your face or it may kidnap you, there are many different ways it may kill you, it’s taller than the players too, and may stalk you, it can also climb.

[lyric plover]

Coding wise is something ya can do?

[brave orchid]

I don’t know how to code I come up with extra behavior ideas

They do the coding

[lyric plover]

Hmm, dont know if lv-426 would work with what the game is

maybe an overrun colony would work better

[brave orchid]

Ok

[lyric plover]

The issue is ya would need custom itsems to sell

lv-426 does not provide much visually for that

[brave orchid]

Dead face huggers

Open eggs android remains

[lyric plover]

Yeah but that only makes sense if there been stuff for them to impregnate

on lv-426 all ya have is the space jockey

It also may be too hard to navigate inside that ship

[brave orchid]

And the nostromo wreckage with ash’s remains one open egg , one dead face hugger , maybe a motion tracker, some keycards

Flamethrower fuel and a flamethrower

[lyric plover]

Yeah, ya need think more about the map

It would be pretty weird visually to just collect like 10 dead face huggers yet there is only one adult xeno

[brave orchid]

It should take place after the first film with the space jockey ship and the remains of the nostromo as the map

They die after impregnating players

[lyric plover]

Yeah not sure, sure visually it would look nice but wouldnt technically the nostromo work better as the interior map?

[brave orchid]

Exactly one face hugger In the nostromo along with ash’s remains, a flamethrower, a extra cat crate, flamethrower fuel,a motion tracker and other references to the first film like cain’s broken helmet

[lyric plover]

id add some more generic items aswell

[brave orchid]

In the space jockey ship there will be one open egg with a bunch of unopened eggs that you’ll have to be careful around

[lyric plover]

Hmmm, this would need an enviroment artist btw

[brave orchid]

True I’ll be looking for one of those too unless we already have one in here

[lyric plover]

Well tell me once ya have enough people to work on this and I can help

ya would need a good coder aswell

the xeno wouldnt work as just a copy of the bracken if you ask me

[cedar leaf]

Gonna upload the newer version of the menu soon i promise - just had a bit of work overloaf + IRL stuff

Btw im lurking around and watching this thread very closely 👀

[brave orchid]

I’m pretty sure @tawdry lark is the coder

[lyric plover]

Okay

I guess ya could oddly enough work on a bracken "clone" to do some of the base code

[brave orchid]

It also has vents

[lyric plover]

Yeah I still think a colony like seen in aliens would work better with the way the game is done

or well yeah a crashed ship

[tawdry lark]

ayo

[lyric plover]

like the space jockey ship would just be a maze

only like 2 rooms would look different enough

they would also be pretty complex assets to do

[tawdry lark]

i am no artist and such, but i still have opinions :
space ship/space station/space colony buildings kind of interior is what would fit nice i think, also its not like we have to be pinpoint acurate, its lethal company where you enter a cube building and end up in a manor... we can just make LV-426 or whatever planet or even a spaceship (as an exterior like we dock in it) and have the interior being somewhat weird

[lyric plover]

Well the enviroment assets would ofc need to be sylized/simplified

[tawdry lark]

ofc

as for the behaviors, again, this facehugger mechanic (if we ignore the difficulty of programming it) i am affraid would be too much for lethal company

and design wise, the feature of being a dead man walking (knowing you will die at some point) and can't do anything about it is an issue

[lyric plover]

Yeah also the ability to sell the eggs would be a bit weird on hindsight

would that just get the facility overrun?

[tawdry lark]

well, gods know what the company does with our scrap lol

[lyric plover]

Lfmao, imagine giving em an egg just softlocks your game

everyone at the company is dead and who know how those new xenos look like

Hmm

But yeah a facility/colony works better

[tawdry lark]

so yeah, for the facehuggers...
If ya really want it, we must find an idea to make it work within Lethal Company flow.
That mean it should work along the fact that expedition on moon are short (so the whole xeno cycle has to be adapted). That mean if we take the idea of someone getting facehugged, either the fatal outcome will happen very fast (but even then you have to think about the fact that one may get "infected" near the end of a mission) or be delayed over multiple days (moon raids), but then it need a solution to get rid of it.

[lyric plover]

I mean realistically given the gameplay I dont think one would encounter the eggs really

makes more sense if its either a facility/colony/ship one is only really exploring a very surface area

stuff like eggs would be much deeper into the place and given how short runs are I dont think players gonna get there anyways

for the map one can just have areas that suggest there is simply more to the map, you just cannot access it

[tawdry lark]

the eggs can be doable actually... that the facehug part that is giving to think about

[lyric plover]

Maybe have some open old eggs lying around

but given the difficulty with the hugger, if it aint doable I dont think normal closed eggs would be in the accessible map

[tawdry lark]

do we go the simple way like lets say you get face hugged, its like a snareflee but if you die a (weaker?) xeno will burst (chestburster is too much already)

[lyric plover]

Also, an infected player that gets to the ship would be more of a game over scenario

[tawdry lark]

yea that is the main issue

[lyric plover]

instead of being yeeted it cuts to the dude giving birth lol

And again, there is also the issue with selling eggs

as that would logically soft lock your game

I guess ya technically defeat the company on that scenario

But well at least is easy to not include the eggs and huggers

within the logic that I explained before, they simply would be a couple of levels bellow that you cannot enter

we have an ambience sounds that may suggest a nest, like a queen noises in the background

[tawdry lark]

yea, for people on edge about accuracy, just suggesting that a nest is present that explain why eggs or this xeno type or whatever

[lyric plover]

id say what makes more sense on the game context and gameplay is if past an hour a horde just comes to get ya ass

[tawdry lark]

wait wat

[lyric plover]

considering is just matter of time before the xenos colony realizes a ship landed

[tawdry lark]

holup sir you're going cwazy

[lyric plover]

lets say is 8 pm, ya hear the queen roar in the distance and more xeno drones start to show up to investigate

[tawdry lark]

eventually we could make a horde scenario when apparatus is taken (like having a compatibility with meltdown mod)

[lyric plover]

yeah that sounds nice

Hmm what you think about the ability for the xeno to go out/in the facility if needed?

mostly thinking about what other insentive other than time could there be for players to leave

on the harder maps well, the difficulty increases after a set time

ya the coder so ya probably have a better idea about how to handle this

hmm maybe the xeno could become more "agressive" past a certain time

[brave orchid]

Until the next moon you land on where it will then burst cause if you to deal with not only the naturally spawning monster but also the stowaway that we know as the xenomorph

[lyric plover]

Thats still pretty much a game over

The xeno would spawn outdoors on this scenario

[brave orchid]

The eggs you’ll sell don’t have face huggers in them and are already open (only able to be picked up after the face hugger leaves the egg)

[brave orchid]

Yes

[brave orchid]

That would be nice to increase the intensity of actually have to deal with and worry about the xenomorph

[lyric plover]

Gonna need more thought into the conept thats for sure

[drowsy mulch]

Any way to program hiding mechanics into the mod? Just like one used to hide in alien isolation in those cabinets for example

Hope we get those loud alien footsteps, those made the player so anxious haha

[tawdry lark]

that would mean the need for furniture to spawn in order to hide, would not go well i think

[tawdry lark]

those yes, the prog part is done

[tawdry lark]

atm i am still struggling with the audio detection part

as well as some unknown behavior

[brave orchid]

I got another idea! Xenos can bust down locked doors (bust as in break) (does not bust down unlocked door, it just open unlocked doors)

In the nostromo wreckage (not the space jockey ship) locked doors have custom keys called keycards

When the xeno kidnapps your friend, you can save them by hitting the xeno, but it’ll the aggro on you instead, when aggroed by this it will garenteed kill you , the animation that it kills you with is random as well as what your body will look like after words (not to worry though! your friends can save you with the flamethrower, as well if you have the flamethrower you can scare it away buying yourself time to escape)

Flamethrowers can also be used like flashlights too it lights up the area around you and when you fire it it’ll light up directly in front of you too

If there are two poeple together the xeno will either kill one first then kidnap the other or it will kill both

[vocal grove]

Any chance of the xenomorph going back into vents and popping out of another to ambush?

Idek if thats possible tbh but it would be dope

[tawdry lark]

do you mean during a chase ?

cuse else it is already using vent to navigate

[brave orchid]

I think that it should also roam the corridors too like patrolling and when it’s search ends with it not finding anything or hearing a loud sound elsewhere it uses the vents to quickly make its way to the next area or to where the sound was , as well as using the vents for ambush and stalking , like waiting for someone to walk past it then silently dropping down behind them to either 1.kill them eventually, or 2. Capture and take them back to its nest so it can multiply

So it’s not constantly in the vents

Or when it gets outside it’ll use the environment similar to the way large predatory cats stalk smaller prey before pouncing on them

Or it’ll straight up aggro on you chasing you down and killing you leaving you mutilated body out I the open

[tawdry lark]

that is what it does right now

[brave orchid]

Hopefully it’ll be super unpredictable

Making you feel like your dealing with the real thing

A lot like these

Also we should take inspiration from these for the map

Woah why is there “fan artist” next to my name? That’s not my art, this is:

[tawdry lark]

dayum

[brave orchid]

?

[tawdry lark]

u comited

[brave orchid]

Yeah the franchise was my childhood

[signal tendon]

I see a lot has happened in this thread and @brave orchid brought @lyric plover to the community! Welcome. I am doing the animations for the mod but my work is very basic and amateur since it's my first time touching Blender. If you @lyric plover would like to take over the animations for the mod, I'd be more than glad to give you the reins

We still need someone experienced in audio to get sounds for footsteps, vent vault, tail swipe

[lyric plover]

Well if the project does get to that point yeah Id like to do the animations

[tawdry lark]

vent sound needed are like crawling ones, vent opening is vanilla and there is like a vault too

[cedar leaf]

Give me a list with the sounds and i could get workin on them

[tawdry lark]

• footsteps
• concrete
• metal
• dirt
• vent
• crawling
• breathing
• xenomorph usual sounds

[feral kraken]

why does it kinda slay, like damn bro, why you posing like that?

[brave orchid]

Sounds for players being ripped apart, should include the iconic head bite

[brave orchid]

While waiting for Mr troodon I had to find other models just in case

[feral kraken]

zesty xenomorph

[feral kraken]

not complaining obviously, it's just kinda zesty and I love it

[tawdry lark]

he's fabulous

[cedar leaf]

It’d go outside too??

[tawdry lark]

it will at least have behavior if (by any mean) it end up outside. it' not on my plan for now to make it go outside, but in the case where lets say another mod make it spawn outside, then its better if all is working.
For the dirt sound, its more of a need even for some interior (like the bunker)

i think there was 3 surface that can be detected for footsteps

@cedar leaf oh dam there is many other actually

i'd need to make a function to log what tags are detected for ground type, there is so much tags that i am not sure if some are used for ground type or for other thing

[cedar leaf]

i'll sample some xeno sounds from prev games

and revamp them a lil so they are unique

AND they are LC like

and im bit out of loop btw

are we only makin ONE? or maybe several different xenos?

cuz i saw warrior xeno , regular xeno etc. here

but i was busy with irl stuff, menus, biodiversity

[tawdry lark]

i dunno x)

for now just one, should be a drone

[cedar leaf]

For audio it would be relatively easy to make more than one since theyd sound just a bit different

[cedar leaf]

hmm maybe this isnt metal

lemme cook a bit more

got quite a few samples

[tawdry lark]

indeed i was confused

the goal with the metal one is to be loud like in Alien: Isolation

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingDetails/comments/vd1pyz/in_alien_isolation_the_xenomorphs_footsteps_are/

[cedar leaf]

i have all 😄

[tawdry lark]

o:

[cedar leaf]

3.6 gb i think

but its every sfx

[tawdry lark]

oof

i'll try to finish my other project asap so i can stop switching working to one another

i already work slow af cuse my brain just won't do it if it's badly done

like for exemple on my google sheet project, i am taking into account hooman being idiots and so i am adding scripts to automaticaly fix broken stuff that shouldn't

i could just have not

[signal tendon]

Definitely one for now. If someone wants to dig into adding more "lore-friendly" elements to this mod later on, I'm not opposed to that. But we definitely shouldn't focus on that for now and just finish the Xeno as is.

[lyric plover]

Dont worry, I myself am working on a lot of other stuff, this aint really high in the to do list if Im honest

[drowsy mulch]

Would be cool to add the original sounds from alien isolation as well and add a config file line that lets players choose if they want revamped sound or original sound

[cedar leaf]

Wdym?

Oh i think i get what you mean

Well it will still be the og alien isolation

Just revamping it to fit the game more and add a uniqueness to it

Otherwise its just a ripoff

[drowsy mulch]

Adding both sound variants; original from AI and the revamped one, and players choose if they want original or not

In the scopophobia mod there is a custom sound for the scp to fit LC more, but the modder allowed to use the original scp sound

Something like that

But if its too much it not necessary, but just an idea for variety

[tawdry lark]

on the prog side, i assume this will be easy as long as i build a structure for it

[tawdry lark]

im back to the clinic, agagain

had another week off

i didn't worked at all while home

[raw harbor]

Bump

[humble rune]

I'm actually surprised there isn't a mod for this at all yet for Lethal Company, considering that the Xenomorph would fit the bracken really well.

I assume the reason is because of IP fears with 20th Fox?

[tawdry lark]

@humble rune its an ongoing project, but i am being kinda slow lately. as for the legal stuff i have no clue. Also it is not a reskin but a whole new mob

[tawdry lark]

@signal tendon any animations i could try to implement ?

[tawdry lark]

@heady bobcat do you know how to prog the stuff for a kill animation ?

[cedar leaf]

he doesnt yet

we've talked a lot about it cuz its something both of us want to get behind

[cedar leaf]

or well afaik he doesnt yet..

[heady bobcat]

Ive yet to do it, but the rolling giant guy made a guide on it! I don't know where to get it tho

[cedar leaf]

i totally forgot where he sent the github stuff and allat

[heady bobcat]

Me to 😭

[cedar leaf]

#1188342589011800095 message

HERE IT IS :3 @tawdry lark

[tawdry lark]

ow

imma check dis thx

this is for dead bodies if i get it right

what i need is the player to be grabbed by the enemy and killed in an animation (like forest giants or oldbirds)

but i dont understand how its done... the part that make it so the player is getting carried

[cedar leaf]

@sullen fox 👀

[sullen fox]

I do my stuff by messing with the players transform.positioj

I'm fairly certain old bird and forest giant so it differently so you'd have to read their coee

[tawdry lark]

ye thats what i tried to do, but man we're speaking about zeekee code

me brain hurts

[tawdry lark]

bump ♿

[cedar leaf]

Did you check Xu’s driftwood’s grabbing code?

[tawdry lark]

no ?

driftwood ¿

[cedar leaf]

yeah the new giant alongside Redwood

this guy

[tawdry lark]

oh from that mod that add species to giant ?

[cedar leaf]

ye

[tawdry lark]

what does it do differently ?

cuse my guess is its code derive from the forestgiant one and thus all the behavior

[cedar leaf]

it runs to a player grabs them and YEETS them across the map

[tawdry lark]

a

[cedar leaf]

it also has a some other mechs but thats what could be important to you

[tawdry lark]

imma try to look

whats the mod name ?

[cedar leaf]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/source/

[tawdry lark]

thx

mmh so it does not derive from the giant script

but he did a patch for the giant script directly

...if i am understanding it well which i might not

[cedar leaf]

ye thats for the redwood's behaviour with the forest keeper i think

what you're lookin at should be when redwood eats the OG giant

[tawdry lark]

wait wat xD ?

[cedar leaf]

yea haha

what you'd need should be here

[tawdry lark]

yeye no worries imma look around, was just surprised about that behavior

[sullen fox]

how so?

[tawdry lark]

didn't played this mod

[sullen fox]

its not that good

[cedar leaf]

its a fun lil mod

[tawdry lark]

well i didn't espected that he eat his family x)

[sullen fox]

i hear the creator's an idiot who cant code

[cedar leaf]

tho the whistle sometimes is too loud lmao

[sullen fox]

yeah

[sullen fox]

yeah i just dont use any of the scrap

matter of fact i dont really use this mod

[cedar leaf]

the idiot part is defo true

[sullen fox]

yeah

whoever they are need to just like

stop modding

[tawdry lark]

at least this idiot successfully did a grab

i am idiot deluxe

[sullen fox]

lol

anyway

if you're doing enemy grab enemy

then taking the position is fine

but you're gonna have to do a lot of messing around with stuff like coroutines and whatever behaviour the enemy was on

plus you'll need to disable the enemy's colliders

its pretty annoying

[tawdry lark]

what if i want to grab a player ?

[cedar leaf]

im idiot light™ ||you'd think that means "less of an idiot" but its quite the opposite||

[sullen fox]

depends on what you're doing

for me, i had the driftwood grab the player and throw them far away

so i needed to do kinematics magic

and i also needed to network the target Player

so clients could get thrown

[tawdry lark]

nah me is just like forest giant or oldbird : grab and kill in the animation (can be save before by frends)

[sullen fox]

ill give it a look at how they do it, but im pretty sure they do what i do and just lock the player fro, being able to be controlled

[cedar leaf]

yeah i think so too

[tawdry lark]

for the prototype ill do with a simple :

• player can only look around
• player body is following the animation of the enemy (parented to a gameobject on it, following position and rotation)

but the ideal in the end would be a full animation for the player as well

@sullen fox while i am at it, do you know what determine the hearing range of an enemy ?

[sullen fox]

nope, but ill take a look at mouth dog rq

should be some sort of listener they have

[tawdry lark]

im thinking its his enemy voice or enemy sfx audio range

like if u can hear it, so can he

[sullen fox]

dunno but i did just find smthn interesting

i guess it makes sense that the dog has a different search routine than the other monsters

anyway you're probably looking for this

yeah it has an interface attached to its class

with a method for position listening from, a loudness, a times played, and an ID for specific sounds

[tawdry lark]

ye i have this method, i used it a bit to try to identify noise [here](#1208886415027343360 message)

but nothing related to the distance

[sullen fox]

that's true

it'd be a lot easier if i had the code for the dog in front of me lol

but there's definitely a place where it uses a distance

try looking into noisePositionGuess and the noise approximation thing

[tawdry lark]

oh btw, for all the networking stuff, im a big noodle

[sullen fox]

Kinda same tbh, but I'd have have see your code lol

[tawdry lark]

well, there is no networking at all done

i have no clue

and not bothering with it for now

im thinking im gonna look at other people custom enemy code later when i will think the xeno is ready for it

or imma bully ask someone for help

[sullen fox]

Don't bully me, I'm nice and cute

[cedar leaf]

lies

[tawdry lark]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1261203066214375425/6RQHXzY1_400x400.jpg

[sullen fox]

:<

[tawdry lark]

@sullen fox i found out

[sullen fox]

Oh nice

What was it?

[tawdry lark]

well

zeekee did half the thing he should

sounds have range

but enemies (or anything that detect noise) do not have earing range

that mean an enemy hear a sound if the sound range manage to hit his hitbox (yea the same as for being slapped)

so in order to have a custom earing range i had to add a component just for it with the interface that the sound look for and the layer

so i hope this wont broke anything

[blazing flume]

This monster definitely needs a mod of a suitable interior, something like an abandoned laboratory or an abandoned spaceship

[tawdry lark]

there is the warehouse that fit kinda nice

but yeah we spoke about custom interior/moon

[cedar leaf]

Someone was workin on an alien interior

Tho idk hows the progress on that

[tight kestrel]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[blazing flume]

in black mesa drop fps, TeraSpace I don't know if it's a problem with the mod, but last time I just had the input on 2 white tiles, and the last mod is quite good, but here you need to under this particular monster

[signal tendon]

I see there was a lot of things happening here for some time. I haven't had that much time, considering my final exams started for the year. I'll send some of the animations I have when I'm back home with some more time, but they are pretty janky.

[tawdry lark]

no worries, just so i can test them

[tawdry lark]

dam, if only i had this mod sooner, so damn easier to test in game

no more wasting time coding my own debug and restarting 10 time just to verify if what i did work

[clever parrot]

when is thi releasing?

because

ITS PERFECT

pls anyone tell me

🥹

[tawdry lark]

@clever parrot when it will be actually perfect

[clever parrot]

but like, is there any persumed date?

[tawdry lark]

not at all

[clever parrot]

ok

[tawdry lark]

tho now u can know its gonna be faster to work on it

easier

[clever parrot]

oki🥹

my frend gonna love it

[tawdry lark]

maybe a prototype will be availlable earlier that will not include all the "cosmetic" part (animation and all)

juste for gameplay sake

and feedback ?

[clever parrot]

i showed him the model and asked him what he would do if he saw that in the hall

he said he would shit himself😂

[tawdry lark]

imma put the work harder !

[clever parrot]

ok goofdluck

good luck*

[tawdry lark]

one of the reason its slow is the lack of satisfaction when i manage to make something work

[clever parrot]

why u not satisfacted?

[tawdry lark]

like its way harder to so something in someone else thing than just doing it in Unity

[clever parrot]

oh

i totaly understand u

[tawdry lark]

so the frequency of moment when u accomplish stuff is way lower

[clever parrot]

ye i get it

[tawdry lark]

its good to see people hyped tho, nice for the motivation

[clever parrot]

np

iwish u luck

[tawdry lark]

atm i am (once again) working on the audio detection part and memory of events

and now that i have a mod that shows me every sound that can be detected and the ID of it will make it so much easier

[clever parrot]

ik tht thats a hard part

[tawdry lark]

like before i had a debug that printed the heared noise but that was very precarious

but now, i see them all easily, so more time working on actually building decision making about type of audio

[clever parrot]

heres a tip

u could use the eyeless dog hearing system

like

cant u like copy it and make the hering distance how u want?

[tawdry lark]

haha, its only like very recently that i found out what was making the audio hearing distance

[clever parrot]

its just a question idk why i put tip there

ok

[tawdry lark]

like here just above ^^

[clever parrot]

wait

[tawdry lark]

the way it was done dont allow to customise enemy hearing distance easily

[clever parrot]

so if dogs dont have hearing range

how can they not hear me from a distance if i run and scream loud af

[tawdry lark]

the noises have ranges

[clever parrot]

o

ohhh

that makes sense💀

[tawdry lark]

so thats kinda annoying if i want an enemy to hear you from afar

[clever parrot]

if u ask me

the alien shoulod actualy just hear u from anywhere

like in the games

in alien isolation fr example 1 small sound and ur teleported directly to heaven

[tawdry lark]

ye, but we need to make it balanced too, so like maybe some specific loud noise would be heard from very far like gunshots

[clever parrot]

also

will there be a config fr that and other things

[tawdry lark]

oh yeye config is planned

[clever parrot]

like fr example if the alien can do the vent mecanic

or how many secs it will retreat from the flash

[tawdry lark]

the vent mecanic is kinda the main selling point tho x)

[clever parrot]

o ok

the vent mecanic is very similar actualy to waht the diversity mod has done recently

[tawdry lark]

maybe ye, we will see how it behave and what shoul be adjustable for the users

[tawdry lark]

ayo wat

[clever parrot]

the new watcher enemy that diversity mod brings

it makes noise in vent and if u pass it kills and takes body

[tawdry lark]

i wanna see this

[clever parrot]

u didnt know?

[tawdry lark]

nah i dont use this one

[clever parrot]

sea4rch google

hes a photo

here

read

[tawdry lark]

damn, i thought making the xeno slam the player a bit too for fun x)

when impaling from vent

[clever parrot]

now before u say anytrhing else

dont remove that pls

plus

[tawdry lark]

remove what ?

[clever parrot]

impaling is more horific

removing vent mecanic

[tawdry lark]

oh no dont worry

[clever parrot]

i saw mods that removed things just because another mod did it first

[tawdry lark]

i'd have to discuss with them about this tho for compatibility reasons

[clever parrot]

ok

goodluck

[tawdry lark]

right know the xeno dont care if the vent is occupied x)

thanks

[clever parrot]

gotta go

i have school tmrw

bye

[tawdry lark]

monday D:

[clever parrot]

maybe we wil talk more tmrw

ye

also

cool sugestion

can u make it that xeno kill like everything in its way not just players

and monster will fight back too

[tawdry lark]

i thought about it maybe have some interaction with some mod, tho with no abuse as we dont want to make the xeno take all the place

[clever parrot]

ye

[tawdry lark]

but like maybe bullying some hoarding bug x)

[clever parrot]

maybe just like a very rare thing

true

[tawdry lark]

if we have a nest kinda thing

[clever parrot]

also

will there can be multiple xeno or 1?

[tawdry lark]

i am making it so multiple xeno is supported and actually have some behavior like hive mind or idk but they can work together

[clever parrot]

will they be killable?

and will they instakill

when outsid ethe vent obviously

[tawdry lark]

killable yes, who like invincible enemies :v

[clever parrot]

tru

[tawdry lark]

instakill ye but counterable

[clever parrot]

yipeee

[tawdry lark]

maybe there will be some annoyance variable to decide if the xeno will trigger an instakill on someone

[clever parrot]

ok

well thats all the questions

i am really looking forward to it

its unique but at the same time not at the same time

i like it

[tawdry lark]

ye it have to fit in lethal company environment

[clever parrot]

ik

i just got an idea fr enemy interaction with xeno

[tawdry lark]

brain overload :v

[clever parrot]

maybe monsters will quietly run away or a smol chance to engage and fight

run away when in a configurable radius

[tawdry lark]

beware that when thinking about already existing eneymy bahavior, it would imply that i have to modify their code too

[clever parrot]

oh

i didnt think of that

[tawdry lark]

i am already struggling to make use of zeekers variable and methods

[clever parrot]

then just make it scanable, ad a bestiary and say that it adapted to coexist with the existing monsters

[tawdry lark]

x)

[clever parrot]

ye

[tawdry lark]

since v50 there is more vanilla inteaction between enemies

like outside one especially

baboon attacking giant... oldbird attacking everything

[clever parrot]

ik

[tawdry lark]

so there is a possibility that the code allow for me to add simple interaction without too much hasle

[clever parrot]

if u manage it make it a config thing ( some people may not like it )

omg

i imagine it outside with the lethal escape mod X)

[tawdry lark]

i planned on making special behavior when outside since its a possibility even if i dont make it myself

[clever parrot]

ye

well goodluck

i gotta go

bye bye

[tawdry lark]

well i have to anyway, cuse else it gonna try to find vents in the grass x)

[clever parrot]

maybe we can talk tmrw

[tawdry lark]

yeye go sleep

good night

[clever parrot]

good night

[clever parrot]

How's it going?

Idk how hours going there so forgive me if it's like 3am fr u

[clever parrot]

How's it going

Idk the hour at u so ye

[sullen fox]

bro just wait he'll respond 😭

[clever parrot]

I'm jus curious

[ripe crescent]

Lol

[tawdry lark]

aaaaa

today i slept all morning and had to write a letter so i didn't worked on the mod

i am in France so right now for me its Monday 20 May 2024 - 17h36 which for you is <t:1716219403:F>

@clever parrot

i am hospitalised so i may have some activities

[clever parrot]

what do u mean ur hospitalized?!?!?!
what happened?!

[tawdry lark]

chill haha

i am since the 15 January

[clever parrot]

but like

why?

[tawdry lark]

bruh my message got blocked

cant say i may have autisme

[clever parrot]

ok

welp

[tawdry lark]

i already had a long going depression but it got really bad around last christmas/new year stuff, i have big difficulties being able to live alone, also we think i may have autisme... so yea that would had been nice to know long ago so i don't end up stuck in life as i am

[clever parrot]

good luck at hospital

[tawdry lark]

here did it

[clever parrot]

oh

im sorry fr u

hope u get better

and u know

escape depresion

get better man

[tawdry lark]

life is hard bro ;_;

[clever parrot]

i belive u

i can totaly belive u

well

i hope u get better

[tawdry lark]

ye thx

[clever parrot]

np

[stray mortar]

sorry about your other message getting eaten by autmod but you're literally the first person to use the term without it being an insult on this server so like.. congrats on the milestone 😸

[glacial kettle]

I've used the term before about myself too

[tawdry lark]

oh alright xD

[glacial kettle]

Autistic without the ic can be used insultingly, and the automod doesn't have much nuance

[stray mortar]

nah, the filtered word is "autist", I'm pretty sure autistic and autism don't get filtered, tho

[tawdry lark]

bad news guys, i have been moved to a duo room

idk how its going to be dealing with someone else

[sullen fox]

rip

[clever parrot]

whats a "duo room"

[tawdry lark]

idk how you say it in english

[clever parrot]

u gonna work with someone else?

[sullen fox]

they're now married, thats what a duo room is

(/j)

[clever parrot]

good fr him

[tawdry lark]

but basicaly, i had a solo room for my hospitalisation until now : the first 6 weeks my mutual was paying the solo room, then the second 6 week i did not have the right for them to pay it, but still got one cuse it was available, then now i did 3 week solo but no more luck, i have to make room

[tawdry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-what-insomnia-no-sleep-gif-13337078

[clever parrot]

its good if u ask me

u have someone to talk to

[tawdry lark]

its more about being able to work/play on my computer, and doing it kinda late

[clever parrot]

as long u dont make sound theres no problem

right?

[tawdry lark]

i dunno

[clever parrot]

just put on some headphones, zip ur mouth and done

[tawdry lark]

i'd need a mouse silencer

[clever parrot]

oh

so im not the only one who has a loud af mouse

itl be fineeee

[tawdry lark]

no but for real even if i dont speak, i cant guarantee i wont accidentaly make noise

[clever parrot]

well

i hope ul just get along well

[tawdry lark]

not looking promising

[clever parrot]

itl be finneeee

be positive bro

be positive

[signal tendon]

Work at whatever pace suits you. If you need to take a break, take a break. I'm gonna be back next weekend to post some animations that you could try implementing, although we are still missing a good chunk of sound design which is also a bummer

[tawdry lark]

for as long as the ai is not properly done, any placeholder is fine

[tawdry lark]

@cedar leaf hey, i saw that mod and ofc u saw it too, is this working great ?

[clever parrot]

i can answer ur question

yes its great

u can edit the title, background and everything

even the loading scvreen text

hope i helped u

[tawdry lark]

well that was to know if he was using it

he is going to make us a theme

[clever parrot]

great

[signal tendon]

They've already made us the theme when they asked me to provide the pngs of the alien

[cedar leaf]

yeah its already out

and yes im using Emblem for it

i'll be updating it hopefully soon

[cedar leaf]

i want to do the same for it as i did for my SCP theme, i just updated that one #1220909278198497410 message

[tawdry lark]

thats awesome

[blazing flume]

I think this interior will work well for this monster https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/HyperionStation/

[tawdry lark]

oh tolian making an interior

well actually he did teraspace but i never tested it, i thought it was too unstable for my modpack

plus why is spacestation a dependency for it

[signal tendon]

The interior and the moon for Space Station was created in collab with sfDesat, but they've gone on a hiatus.

[tawdry lark]

i just tested, as espected the "moon" is just a test thing and the interior is very unfinished : very repetitive, missing tiles, and i have doubt it would work great by the tiny nature of it

as for hyperion station, couln't make it load for client, and is looking not functionnal enough for now

[signal tendon]

Yeah sfDesat deprecated the moon. They wanted to implement Celstial Tint into it but (from what I remember) they said they burned out and took a major break

That's why the sfDesat modpack has been deprecated as well

[tawdry lark]

btw i'm stuck on something about the xeno

i am not sure how to do the memory kind of feature (in practice)

if you guys have suggestions...

[clever parrot]

search a tutorial?

[tawdry lark]

in practice i said

like how should it work, not how to program it

previously i imagined that it could remember "thing" that happened that is relevant

to help the xeno decide what to do

but i am not sure at what to track and how it change the behavior

[signal tendon]

You mean, you want to implement the machine learning from Alien Isolation? It would be really impressive but I don't know if it's worth the amount of work you'd have to do

[tawdry lark]

not necessary that complicated, especially for the v1.0, but still want to have at least memory for noise (what, where, who, when) and threats, mainly players (what did they do that angered them)

[signal tendon]

what could happen is that it slowly learns that flashbangs are not a threat if they are overused

but other than that, I was also wondering about a flamethrower, using the Old Bird's already established effect

But maybe adding more functionality to it so it could for example burn down the butler's bees and electric bees

so it would be useful besides scaring the alien away

coz I'm gonna be honest, the butler bees are probably one of the more unfun and annoying aspects of the game

[tawdry lark]

that last update has up and downs

butler bees are indeed annoying, tho you shouldn't kill a butler early or plan to do something about the bees like traping them in a room (i do that using ability to lock doors using key)

also the robow, while looking cool, they are annoying af cuse they are too much present

why so much even in low tier moons

[signal tendon]

in solo runs, it isn't really an option to plan out killing a butler unfortunately

[tawdry lark]

also idk if its only me, but shovel hit feel like they are not hitting some time, like i hit the butler many time and he no die

[signal tendon]

let me introduce you to MeleeFixes
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ButteryStancakes/MeleeFixes/

[tawdry lark]

o:

[signal tendon]

The author of the mod has a bunch of fixes for multiple bugs of the game, including sounds and the buggy behaviour of the jetpack

Turns out that there is no "overheat" mechanic to the backpack and it just has buggy colliders

That register as if you hit something even tho you didn't

[tawdry lark]

imma look at those

thx

[clever parrot]

but like, dou u know how to do the remember thing?

[tawdry lark]

well yea, but i need to first establish what i want it to do, then i may find how to program it optimally

[clever parrot]

i may have some sugestions if u want

1: the flashbang idea that subject1v3 said

2: so u know how the forest giant sometime stares at u? Thats because they have a suspicon meter fr every player, the higher the suspicion, the sooner it will chase.
Maybe u could implement that to the xeno

and itl be tied to everything: 1: how much noise u made.
2: if u tried atacking it
3: the xenos health etc

Hope i helped u 🙂

[tawdry lark]

i take ideas and will try to put something down

hard thing is atm that i have audio detection up, but dont know what to do with it lol

[clever parrot]

make it go to the sound?

obvious

[tawdry lark]

duh

[clever parrot]

ye

[tawdry lark]

not that easy

i mean

[clever parrot]

i believe u

[tawdry lark]

should not follow that rule like that

for instance

[clever parrot]

well

u the dev

[tawdry lark]

atm it use audio to continue chasing players when out of sight

but

it need checks to not just dumbly go the first sound it hears when line of sight is lost

[clever parrot]

if it uses it to do that, what happens if u get out of sight and stop makin soud?

[tawdry lark]

hehe, if agile enough you can break a chase like that

[clever parrot]

lol

bro wuld be like

"where did that mf go?"

[tawdry lark]

but like, its kinda hard cuse noise dont have a "source" (like who did it)

[clever parrot]

rly?

then how do dogs know who made the sound?

[tawdry lark]

so if i just told it to go to the footstep noise when no more see, if there is multiple people running around, bro is gonna go dumb

[tawdry lark]

you have the position

[clever parrot]

oh

jus use the position then

like

copy the dogs code

[tawdry lark]

well yeah, but i want it to only follow noise that should be the target he was chasing

so atm i check the distance of the noise from the last known position

[clever parrot]

hmmm

maybe got an idea

u could put on a system that gives every player an ID or smthin like that and every sound thats made by a player the xeno hears also gives him that ID wich tell him from wich player it is

so when i chases a player

it knows its iD

and when he will listen specifecaly fr that players sound ID

the game has already an ID system that the tulip snakes use

they use it to determine wich player to lunge at if both have the same aount of snakes on their head

as usualy they will lunge at the one with more snakes

the ID is like

the host has ID lvl 0

the next guy wich joines after the host has ID lvl 1

then the next one that joins has lvl 2 etc

what do u think?

[tawdry lark]

to have an additional information given along an audio, it would need to modify existing code, thing that i would like to not dip into

the closest solution that i have is to look for the closest player from the sound, most of the time it shouls work, only the rare time when multiple of them are close it may be wrong, but then that would not be an issue

[clever parrot]

that would actaly be better

the fact that it goes fr the closest sound even if more are close and make soud

because

like irl

the closer the sound source

the louder u hear it

duh

so

it makes sense

but anyway

again

u the dev

not me

im jus throwin random ideas around

[tawdry lark]

yeye

[clever parrot]

gtg

homework

adios

[tawdry lark]

oof

good luck

[clever parrot]

ik

thank

[tawdry lark]

lemme bump this real quick

im still on it

[ashen kettle]

Excited for this!

[tawdry lark]

i got stuck on stuff the last few days cuse imperium was lying to me

(im pretty sure)

[tawdry lark]

Hey guys, just wanted to say that today i did good progress

i mean, compared to other day its quite significant

[sullen fox]

Nice

[tawdry lark]

i tossed the scary patrol routine of zeekers and did my own one

and many tiny thing

but most importantly its super clean

(at least as far as i know)

now i would probably be much further if i just... did the stuff instead of spending 90% of the time i work on it thinking how to do it nicely

but i cant, me brain just wont allow it x_x

also i learned that if statement have an order of execution that matter

[clever parrot]

Great job!

[tawdry lark]

im starting to need animation (for test purpose)

ne need to be well made, just basic one to see if it work

[tawdry lark]

nest idea is being thinked about c:

[tawdry lark]

oh sry, no notif to see
ye it was spoken about, but not digged into yet

[tawdry lark]

well, i'd need to implement the network stuff which is... uuh... going to be a painfull ride

imma gonna ask for (big) help from people here for that, but before that i'll make at least the basic stuff

ye, the big question are how to add "decision making" to the lot

i mean how should they interfer

isn't that correct in english ? gogoling in progress...

no, like a batch of thing

[tawdry lark]

well, atm it just follow simple rule when patrolling, like the way it chooses nodes to check... but i'll need to enhance this by adding rule to check "sus" spot like place it heard noise or something

but lets not make it check every noise it heard too

so need to think about why this and not that

well its already done, noise are heard and can follow them

well it will hear any noise, but then i can toss the one we are never gonna be interested at using the noise ID that is made in lethal company. this way i can store the actual noise that matters (like player voice, footsteps, idiot with boombox...) in an array using a custom type of variable that define it for my need : noiseID, position, time, ...

now even just with voice and footstep, this list is growing fast

so how to decide when to forget it ?

i might try to add the source of it, like who did it especially

so this way i can just remove previous noise made by this person

mmmh

@neat apex keep being my plastic duck for a second, i'm cookin over there

i don't need a huge ass list of previously heard thing if i only care about the last one they did

now if i have some sort of anger meter indepent for each player (and entity ?), i could use it to decide what is to follow :v

didn't you said it was fat ? ._.

well yea being near the nest would increment the anger

pm me the dependency strings

yeye

tho the hearing would be any time as long as it hear you, but the increment might be different

like a tiny bit for far footstep, will not raise that fast and alien won't mind for a little moment

oh yea there is a range

there is 2 actually

when in vent it can hear much further

[tawdry lark]

tho i was thinking about that... do i do it like this, or make it so it can hear stuff happening near every vent ? or both o-°

i have to program ai for the perfect organism tho c:<

i think i might be blind

oh there, was looking on the thunderstore

how much Go ?

size of the profile

nono the size in Go ^^

oof

ye but its about my harddrive being already in the red and also me being on my 4G (i am hospitalised)

...imma try to free some space tho just to be back on blue color

WinDirStat, usefull to see what is eating the storage, often find some old shit

what about the fat one ?

https://tenor.com/view/poop-gingerbread-scared-to-death-gif-24286071

shit must take forever to start tho

ah

Epic Games...

it's not what u think

it's foocking Unreal Engine

imma uninstall a few unity version also

did you just... take a photo of your screen ? :v

verticaly also x_x

[signal tendon]

Can't wait for the new update to break more mods

[tawdry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-griffin-reaction-scared-shocked-gif-4172981

im not using zeekers methods that much so should be fine(ish)

[tawdry lark]

ye but barely in the blue

[tawdry lark]

nah imma sleep

[tawdry lark]

made a trello cuse i keep forgetting stuff

there is a "ideas" section, so if you guys have some, even if that was already said so i can finally have all that in an easy place

u dont, just (re)write the ideas here and imma add them there

imma take a moment maybe to scroll all the way up here and reread everything

1969 message x_x

[tawdry lark]

yeye sry, was in art-therapy

snake head has been attached to the body

[sullen fox]

why?

[tawdry lark]

v55 ? where the v51-54

[sullen fox]

zeekers skips sometimes

[tawdry lark]

a

snippet of ? the snake ?

if so its already been wrapped in wet tissue so too late, but i got photo of my previous work, a fox torso

(those are sculpture)

its gonna be hard to find time for this

[tawdry lark]

i didn't had time to properly get to work today

hell, i can't even go to the bathroom cuse my roommate clogged the toilet x_x

[tawdry lark]

currently working on the vent mechanic to check and set if it's occupied

cuse atm i may be foockin up some entity if they were waiting in a vent while the xeno showed up

[ripe crescent]

lmao

[clever parrot]

the xeno might be doing smthin sus in that vent with the monster 0_0

also, i saw u went with my ideea of the sounds ID

👍

[clever parrot]

got a sugestion:
when a xeno kills a player it will drag the body to its nest and hang it on the wall with the veiny black thingy.
the body will sit there until a baby xeno will burst out of the body's chest, teh baby xeno will then run into the nearest vent and in less than 2 in-game hours, itl grow into a full xeno and act like a normal xeno.
If the body chest burst thing is too hard to code u can make it so that it drags teh body into the vent, and then the baby xeno will get out and wonder around, doing no harm ( maybe he could like scream and then run away when he sees a player, wich the scream will make an adult xeno run to the place where the scream was ( also the baby xeno could be killable but itl be hard since hes fast but itl take only 1 shovel/knife etc hit to kill )), and when hees ready to grow itl run back into the nearest vent, stay there like 1 in-game hour ( configurable ) and then get out as a normal xeno and act from then on as a normal one

this could be a config that could be disabled if you dont want the xeno to reproduce

[tawdry lark]

we need more people to give their opinion about the xeno reproduction cycle thing

[clever parrot]

👍

also i saw u used my idea with the sound ID

does it work good?

[tawdry lark]

well sounds have an id, yet still have to perform some prog magic to associate it to a player/entity

sound work also is on standby waiting for me to fix the vent and cleanup code

[mossy hill]

Has there been any update on this 👀

[tawdry lark]

still on it no worries ! just been busy last few days and didn't worked as much

[tawdry lark]

@heady bobcat @sterile badge do you guys know someone (or maybe yourself) to indroduce me to networking stuff ?

[sterile badge]

Oh yeah networking is fairly simple. I watched this video https://youtu.be/3yuBOB3VrCk to understand the basics, which I would recommend taking a look at. And then, Unity's documentation for ClientRpc and ServerRpc is pretty good

[tawdry lark]

so thats what zeekee is using right ?

[sterile badge]

ye

[tawdry lark]

k

imma look at this, but still i am the kind that like to have someone along the start so if i need it i may ask

[sterile badge]

okay :3

[sullen fox]

just ask if u need help

the tutorial isnt there because i hate helping people :p

[tawdry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670

a tuto ? where ¿

[sullen fox]

#1238598452137562223 the enemy tutorial?

[tawdry lark]

oh thats fairly recent

i mean wasn't there when i started so never saw it

[tawdry lark]

@sullen fox also i might boop you to explain me how you handle special animation with player stuff like you did with ur giant that toss the player

grabing a player basicaly

[sullen fox]

That's fine

[tawdry lark]

also

looks like i should migrate over LLL ?

[sullen fox]

It'll be more maintained, there's no need to but I'd recommend it

[brave orchid]

God it keeps kicking me out of the thread

[tawdry lark]

nah it's just that when inactive for some days it disapear form the quicklick

also

i don't like networking

shit so much not working that client players just froze forever

[signal tendon]

I think trying to make a special animation for the kill including the player would be a pain, just like with Demogorgon situation

We should probably take The Fiend's approach and freeze the player while Xeno plays out the animation

[tawdry lark]

oh yeye thats what im trying to do

[brave orchid]

W

[clever parrot]

how is it goin?

[tawdry lark]

didn't worked at all the last week cuse i am home for... well one week before going back to the clinic

and also i am being kidnapped the evenings until we complete Chained Together x)

[clever parrot]

bruh

[tawdry lark]

but beside that, i am struggling with network

[clever parrot]

wut u mean "beeing kidnaped"

fr 1 sec i touth u are literally meaning it XD

[tawdry lark]

hehe no, just people need me to be free to play, and i cant really choose when cuse 2 of them are streaming

[clever parrot]

oh

ok

hope u get better ❤️

[tawdry lark]

i've been there since january lol, they told me that the average was 1-2 month

[clever parrot]

rly?

[tawdry lark]

ye

[clever parrot]

literally got no fuckin reaction 💀

[tawdry lark]

hehe

depression is underestimated as a sickness

plus my situation is very complicated

[clever parrot]

ik

ive heard from other ppl

and i think its very unfair for those in that situation

By that I mean that it's unfair for those like you

[tawdry lark]

life is hard for the kind ones :c

but progress is being made

im starting to get money to help me and i have been recently recognise as handicaped

but what i need most is people around me to understand me and my difficulties and adapt to it

[clever parrot]

i hope it will happen...

[clever parrot]

hows it goin?

[tawdry lark]

not well tbh

the rare time i have to work on it i dont make much progress

network still a pain in the ass

now also i got to update for v55

id really need someone to teach me the network stuff ;_;

like showing me by updating one of my already made features to be functionnal

[blazing flume]

Will this monster crawl on the ceiling or walls and suddenly attack by nudges to kill its target?

[clever parrot]

just ask someone around this server to teach u networkin and everything

[tawdry lark]

i have this idea on the side cuse while cool as it is, its hard to do to begin with, but then we have to remember that there is multiple interiors and that can get very buggy very fast

[clever parrot]

isint that easyer?

[clever parrot]

maybe u could ask xu xiaolan to teach u the networking stuff

after all, she already made an monster mod that is still beeing worked on

aka, the giant specimens

[tawdry lark]

@sullen fox do u think u could take me by the hand to demonstrate me how to do it properly on one of my feature ? or do you know someone that could do it ?

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-puss-in-boots-eyes-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-gif-27592566

[blazing flume]

What if we restrict monster spawning only in standard interiors or those that (possibly) will be created for this monster?