Tolian's Moons and Interiors

[dark crow]

i also get these errors now

[faint topaz]

Re-create the cfg lll

[zenith jay]

There was a typo in the level name before

PsychSanctlum

[dark crow]

i see

[signal sluice]

a lot ppl say lllf make a config but it don't

[tacit pelican]

I think there's a chance for modded interiors to generate on each other, which is why I always assign only one modded interior to a moon

It's either that or in the config you have both interiors set to always spawn

[dense goblet]

does argent work now

i saw it got updaTEW

[minor marsh]

I'll check that out, thanks for the info 👍

[faint topaz]

It should work now

[gaunt topaz]

and it's a beautiful site. thank you so very much, Tolian

[dark crow]

is TeraSpaceInterior playable?

[faint topaz]

@dark crow .

[faint topaz]

• Update
  - 0.1.6 >>> 0.1.7 Updated Azure
  • 0.1.0 >>> 0.1.4 Updated Spectralis
  • 0.1.9 >>> 0.2.0 Updated Nyx

• 0.1.0 >>> 0.1.2 Updated Echelon

[gaunt topaz]

tol doin WORK 😄

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.5 >>> 0.2.6 Updated Argent

[gaunt topaz]

DOIN WORK

[faint topaz]

• 0.1.6 >>> 0.1.7 Updated Crystallum
• now it should work.....

Now I think all the moons are stable now....

[restive dirge]

we shall see about that 😈

echolon still crashes me

[faint topaz]

time to fix bugs

[gaunt topaz]

@prisma laurel ^

[twilit jay]

anybugs/issues with Echoreach, just asking-

[zenith jay]

EchoReach is all good

[twilit jay]

Ah k

[zinc ermine]

tolian FYI
on Azure it seems like the skybox being bright below the surface exposes slightly misaligned geometry in some custom dungeons (especially with Cullfactory).
#1200144261333659729 message

[twilit jay]

Dang I have to either have consistent weather or no dust for echoreach but instead fog-

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it

[proper fable]

:O

[faint topaz]

?

[gaunt topaz]

sequel to Echo Reach 😮

[lone quail]

I want this change soooooooo bad!

[thorny kernel]

same, but please do let us interior config peeps know what changed xD

[vague ferry]

Jesus Christ TOLIAN YESSS

PLEASSE

[dark crow]

game is just crashing when trying to land on budapest

[faint topaz]

• 0.1.2 >>> 0.1.5 Updated Echelon

[bright sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/hangover-math-mathematics-equation-lol-gif-5822639

[gaunt topaz]

doesnt Psych Sanctum use Mental Hospital 100% if it's downloaded?

(assuming no configs have been tampered with)

[faint topaz]

If I'm not mistaken, Dantor set it to 9999

[gaunt topaz]

aaaah

[olive sierra]

Just a request to mention in the patchnotes that the weights were changed when they are so I can adjust my dungeon weightings accordingly

[minor marsh]

coming back to this, i realized that the interior (?) that was merged into the actual interior was the backrooms. idk how that works so i just turned the backrooms off for now and that fixed it for me 💀

[bright sentinel]

Time doesn't seem to pass on crystallum

It's stuck at 7:39am

and the dropship with items seemed to land behind the wooden houses on the right and we couldnt figure out how to get back there

[faint topaz]

• DungeonFlow changed
  • Celestria - 300/20
  • Maritopia - 300/20
  • EchoReach - 300/20
  • PsychSanctum - 20/300
  • Harloth - 300/20
  • Nyx 20/300
  • Zenit - 300/20
  • Spectralis - 20/300
  • Crystallum - 20/300
  • Azure - 300/20
  • Nimbus 300/20
  • Echelon 20/300
  • Argent - 300/20
  • Budapest - 20/300

[vague ferry]

YES

@lone quail

YES!

https://tenor.com/view/dance-party-lets-gif-25999992

[zinc ermine]

apparently that is an issue caused by warehouse interior (only when it spawns as interior tho)

We landed on Nyx first time and while searching for a fire exit we found several ways to go OOB

• Near the table and chairs you can crouch walk through the green fire place
• just before that roofed section you can jump over the rocks to the left
• opposite from the ship you can crouch walk through a narrowing in the rocks. I clipped through all the rocks, my friend got stuck there for good

Regarding fire exits no spoilers please ||even tho we didn't find one we still have a theory there are fire exits inside and they port you to one of the blue light locations||

[dark crow]

does this mean we have to redo all interiors weights in lethal quantites?

[lone quail]

Possibly.

Depending on how you did them.

[faint topaz]

if you want

[thorny kernel]

not gonna lie, idk when it was changed, but Maritopia feels really challenging for a free moon now
I liked its simplicity earlier but I mean, I guess it'll take some time to get used to the parkour needed

not a big deal but it did come as a surprise

[minor marsh]

i like the parkour aspect, really cool

[high sierra]

Agreed

It's now something more interesting than a straight path to the entrance

[dense goblet]

@faint topaz U should make an abandoned mall interior

would go so hard

[faint topaz]

I have 3 interiors in the pipeline

maybe someday I will

[gaunt topaz]

nah man, new moon with a huge mall as its facility

land in a fenced off parking lot; busted down cars, graffiti on the building's walls, a busted sign making the mall's name completely obscured

[faint topaz]

I'll keep that in mind

[dense goblet]

or a Black Mesa mod typa thing where it's a moon and interior made for each other

[faint topaz]

It would be nice if someone created an interior mod on this theme

[gaunt topaz]

@digital bluff

[karmic sedge]

I might do this, I just need to finish up my current interior, which is 50%ish done, and then work on the luigis mansion interior

[vestal pivot]

What's with Budapest and Harloth's ratings of MCXI and P respectively?

[zenith jay]

Budapest's rating is the same as the original map

[vestal pivot]

and P is... "perfect rank"?

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-tower-peppino-p-rank-gif-14670620860850630629

Is map size multiplier not in lethal lava land lethal level loader's config?

[glass abyss]

these seem to work with lllfixed (the one that is v50 compatible) 👀

[faint topaz]

no

[vestal pivot]

what are the multipliers for all the moons?

[faint topaz]

custom difficulty

[faint topaz]

I'll text you when my project uploads

[vestal pivot]

alright

i'm making a spreadsheet for moon data.

[quartz mortar]

looks good so far!

[vestal pivot]

Alright, here is an unrealistic bit of info for you to have, but I'll give it a shot. Outdoor map sizes? This would be used to calculate outdoor power density. It doesn't convert nicely from indoor sizes, but I'd assume... check the radius of a factory dungeon with a size multi of 1, find out how many units that is, then convert all map sizes in a similar manner?

[faint topaz]

nyx 100x100?

Maritopia 150x150

Celestria 1300x1300 ?

it's hard to size

[vestal pivot]

lol

I didn't expect much out of that.

[faint topaz]

Judging by terrain, the size will be large, but there's mostly nothing there

[vestal pivot]

The logic is, look at March, its night spawn power of 12, and its insanely large map, then look at Titan, its night spawn power of 7, and its tiny map.

Being outside on Titan is going to be more dangerous than being outside on March simply because power density is higher.

[faint topaz]

given the complexity and size....

at the top of the list are the complexity _size moons and at the bottom are the easy ones

indicative list

[dark crow]

No its because titan has different outside enemies. Wtf is power density

[vestal pivot]

power ÷ map size
literally take the pool of power and spread it evenly over the whole of a map to get the idea of "safety" per moon.

[silent osprey]

I feel that it's heavily influenced by quantity and density of ai nodes as well. Having a 1000x1000 moon doesn't matter much if the outer half doesn't have any AI nodes (perhaps due to mountains or the like on the edges)

[hasty spruce]

playing on azure and just wrriting things as i go

• light is blinding everywhere on the moon
• water triggerr is wayyyy too low

cant really get back up if you fall bc you hit an invisible wall

fell into a clippy spot here

you can walk onto the void

[vestal pivot]

I don't know if there is a way out of the water on Azure.

[faint topaz]

no

[vestal pivot]

In general, the permanent water pools on Lethal Company are functionally equivalent to bottomless pits in platformers. The only difference being, you do actually have a bit of time to be saved, either with a teleporter, or by sacrificing a ladder.

[faint topaz]

?

[glass abyss]

beautiful

[gaunt topaz]

friend, this gonna be cool

[twilit jay]

what's this?

[zinc ermine]

nice.

[naive lake]

Looks like Echelon

[twilit jay]

maybe a remake of psyhc asylum?

[naive lake]

Will there still be the horse statue?

I liked it

(And that's also the LRP image)

[gaunt topaz]

heck. i'll need to redo the icon XD
a small price to pay for beautiful moon environments

[faint topaz]

possibly

[gaunt topaz]

preserve the equine fixture

[faint topaz]

?

[gaunt topaz]

interior lookin spiffy

[quartz mortar]

are we positive that's even LC

😭

(it looks really good btw)

[digital bluff]

Looks great! Only gripe is that it does look a bit non-vanilla, but ive seen thats your style anyway so its not that much of a deviation. ||Sorta loosely reminds me of Dead Space||

Possibly make the textures a bit more low res to match vanilla's textures

Just some suggestions though

[faint topaz]

good idea

[gaunt topaz]

also a way to optimize it. less work to do out of the gate

[primal oracle]

This looks like its going to demolish my fps

[faint topaz]

theoretically it shouldn't

[west pivot]

is tera space specifically meant for sf desats satellite moon?

not made for like a tolian moon?

[zenith jay]

Correct, it's a collaboration between the two of them

[west pivot]

cool

[zenith jay]

The interior can go on other moons if you want

But it's in a very early state

[west pivot]

both of them are WIP right, so not stable yet?

yea thts what i was gonna ask lol

[zenith jay]

They are stable. But there may be unintentional behavior and or bugs

Updates are coming

[west pivot]

so like, enjoyable, and only minor bugs, or

[zenith jay]

I'd just give it a shot and see what you think. It's in a very early state

[west pivot]

ok

are both very early state or just tolians interior

[zenith jay]

Both at the moment, the "moon" is mainly just the interior. You'll see what I mean when you try it out

[west pivot]

nooooice

thanks

[west pivot]

how do these moons not have more downloads, theyre sick

[restive dirge]

Yea it looks great but it doesn’t look like LC

I know it’s a blender render but still

[silk minnow]

it's just what it looks like in-editor I'm pretty but got sheeesh it looks good

[silk minnow]

ah that's what it is

[restive dirge]

That’s my guess atleast

[faint topaz]

||?||

[high sierra]

Oh heeeeellll yeah
Not many industrial supercomplexes out there on offer

[faint topaz]

||?||

[glass abyss]

||please tell me it has a working train||

regardless looks insanely good wow

[faint topaz]

||possibly||

[gaunt topaz]

THESE. i need THESE.

[sweet pier]

Bruh, you made maps for 5 dlcs 😂

[west pivot]

yo is every one of your moons supposed to have basically the same kinda loot (being big bolt, metal sheet, the metal items) or is this a bug on my end?

[wanton mountain]

@faint topaz Hard crashed on your new moons budapest and crystallum. Installed LogNeuter, lesslogs and it seems to work! But here is the log after the crash if you want to look into it. Currently playing on v49

[west pivot]

sorry to ping u but do u know if all of tolians moons only have like big bolt, metal sheet, large axle small axle, stuff like that? or this is a bug for me

[gaunt topaz]

dont know. not reverting back to v49

[west pivot]

ok

its just seems strange to me

the enemies on each of his moons are different, but the types of scrap are all almost the same (the min/max scrap is different tho)

[karmic sedge]

looks intresting

in a good way

[faint topaz]

I'll look into it and fix it

[west pivot]

thanks

[zinc mesa]

||looks fire, reminds me of the railway in the opening of final fantasy 7 remake||

[faint topaz]

||?||

[warped elk]

||Is that TeraSpace or something completely different?||

[bright sentinel]

Wow the new dead space looks so coo--wait a minute... 👀

[restive dirge]

I mean it looks sick as hell but like I said earlier doesnt fit LC

what does it look like ingame outsiide of a blender render

[gaunt topaz]

aesthetic aint what id be lookin at in terms of that quality. id be lookin more at performance. it looks great, but it needs to be playable

keep cookin, tolian. lookin forward

[faint topaz]

Another

[midnight coral]

hopefully not, I don't like that interior, have to crouch all the time on top of everything looking the same and having no way to find your way back aside remembering your perfect trajectory

[tacit pelican]

The current release is very work in progress

[wanton mountain]

hardcrash on Budapest, dunno why. Currently playing on v49 tho

thunderstore code: 018f07ee-cc40-61a1-f159-6aef856b5bad

@faint topaz

[faint topaz]

According to tests Budapest is still working but not stable, I'm working on a patch for it

[wanton mountain]

oh alright! Can't wait
Can also give you another less obvious bug which i also assume is because it's a real early version. But on Crystallum the dropship lands behind or inside some houses and is really hard to get to

Crystallum also had a similair bug to budpest which is hardcrash on too. But that got resolved by this mods. Dunno if that can help in any way, but there you go

[faint topaz]

I got the dropship error notice

Crystallum used to crash the game, but after patches it stopped happening

I have now paused all updates until the LLL update is released

[wanton mountain]

Aah alright, then maybe i just so happens to install the mods at the same time. But good, then i know!

[wanton mountain]

Sounds like a smart idea! Really like your moons, they have some top quality visuals. Are you using blender?

[faint topaz]

yes

[wanton mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-b99-brooklyn-nine-nine-andy-samberg-detective-jake-peralta-gif-11062927

[west pivot]

LLL updated les go

[faint topaz]

nice

[ancient crane]

Will your moons work in v50 right off the bat?

I like them a lot

(so congratulations by the way)

[faint topaz]

yes (I think)

[misty pond]

what should i put in dantors mental hospitals config so that it shows up on psychsantum? is it just PsychSanctum or like, PsychSanctumLevel cause ive seen configs need stuff like DineLevel or TitanLevel. etc

[digital bluff]

Either or, configs are dynamic iirc so itll just try and look for a moon name thats similar to what you are entering

Id go with the former though

[misty pond]

Okie! ty

[faint topaz]

Soon I will transfer to the new LLL all the moons also with || this psychsanctum will receive its redesign ||

[high sierra]

Ooh something to look forward to. Thats a welcome change

[high sierra]

Agreed. It is pushing the envelope for aesthetic, certainly, but since it's a mod I think it's allowed to experiment with that. Think Football or MonsterPlushies!

What matters is the playability within... it does look loaded with assets

||I do find it refreshing to see a more spacious interior :)||

[west pivot]

will the moons loot be fixed?

i seemed to get only like big bolts and metal sheets and items of that sort on all your moons recently

[faint topaz]

Yes, I fixed the item chance and all the bugs that were listed above

[west pivot]

nice appreciate you

[floral ivy]

It works in v50?

[floral ivy]

tysm

[high sierra]

Woah that second picture looks out of this world

Clearly I didn't get the opportunity to reach whatever Moon this one is before my modpack died

[west pivot]

spectralis

i think nyx and zenith are the coolest looking ones withe spectralis as the runner up

unfortunately nyx doesnt run super well for me lol

[high sierra]

Oh yeah Zenith is so cool
Really like the whole crawling around ice caves thing to find the entrances

Might be my fave too

[faint topaz]

I'm already doing a redesign for nyx

[west pivot]

nice sounds great

[high sierra]

Sounds great! Never was a fan of how it's just a straight path to the main entrance

[west pivot]

it looks siiiiick tho

[high sierra]

Ain't denying that

[west pivot]

looks like a place youd go to in doom eternal

[high sierra]

Haha yeah
The sheer scale of the castle is massive when you decide to look up

[west pivot]

honestly these moons are so underrated bro

like they should all have wayyy more downloads

[faint topaz]

||Maybe I should redesign EchoReach/Celestria?||

[wanton mountain]

yes

[west pivot]

celestria yea i think thats prob a good idea

i think certain parts of echo look pretty cool, and the openness of it is unique, along with the huge sun there lol

but yea maybe echo too

[high sierra]

I feel like EchoReach being a vast desert is too integral of a part to change

[wanton mountain]

the visuals are amazing on all those moons, but i think they lack alittle in the gameplay department. Most moons have just one way to reach the destination. Would like to see some parkour elements or something else

[west pivot]

if your gonna redesign moons tho, i hope and suggest that an updsate that fixes the bugs comes out first? unless thats just not doable for you?

cuz its so hard to want to go to ur moons atm with the loot

[twilit jay]

yea I like echo as it is-

[faint topaz]

yes

[west pivot]

cool

[west pivot]

well i mean have u seen maritopia lol

also echo has kinda a cool way to get to main but yea i see what u mean

[wanton mountain]

it's my favorite moon of all time

love that moon

[faint topaz]

I'll take all your ideas into account when redesigning the moon

[west pivot]

maybe some of the moons with the most loot should have like more obstacles outside and stuff, but id say what your easier/lower tier and loot moons have got is balanced

[wanton mountain]

you da man!
I think azure would be easy to fix. Just fix the water and make some planks sticking out abit from the balcony from each fire exit

[west pivot]

oh yeah thatd be cool

[wanton mountain]

Maybe one fire exit balcony could have a ramp that the player can just slide down and not run back up on

[west pivot]

also lol im sure u know this but some moons sound like u walk on cardboard

[faint topaz]

It would be nice if I could get a lead on the moons

where it's happening

[wanton mountain]

another solution that would be probably hard to implement is to make some kinda of liane/vine that the player could swing from.

But that seems like alot of work lol

[faint topaz]

sounds interesting

I'll think about it

[west pivot]

ill prob play on your moons later today and will tell u which

[wanton mountain]

could probably resure that mechanic on other moons such as Nyx and Crystallum. Just change the visuals to a chain or a rope

[west pivot]

i think nimbus and crystallum did have cardboard sound but i have a bad memory

[wanton mountain]

OOH just came up with another idea for the fireexit. Sorry that i'm just spewing out ideas and spaming. But like in the movie Indiana Jones have a ball fall down and roll after the player.
Like, the player goes out the fire exit. Then a sound cue comes and the player get notified that something is happening. Then they get to see the ball releasing just a few meters above them and now they have to run the opposite direction.

Altho i dunno how hard that will be for syncing with everyone in the lobby. Like Asteroid-13 lights is just client based and that is alittle annyoing

but that is maybe more of a LethalExpansion thing, i dunno

[faint topaz]

ahah

I like that

[wanton mountain]

hahah you can take alot from those movies. Dart trap walls for example

[west pivot]

that would be pretty sick

[wanton mountain]

platform parkour pilers that break (when stepped on?)

[west pivot]

but then the firexit would have to be in like a cave or something cuz then it would really be like indiana jones boulder scene

https://youtu.be/c6XHLe94SJA?si=8J3l2OiEAI1sRayJ

such a cool scene bro

[wanton mountain]

classic

[west pivot]

soundtracks for those movies are so good too

[viral hawk]

I'm in love with Maritopia, awesome mods

[gaunt topaz]

so one thing i noticed about the all in one pack. both loading to the main menu and loading to the lobby for the first time each lags the game significantly. only reason why i know it's this pack is while i'm looking at the log window while i wait, every few seconds one of the Tolian moons will load into place

when it comes to LLL, i know Rosie moons, sfDesat moons, and Starlancer moons don't do that individual insertion

[faint topaz]

14* moons in one package

[glass abyss]

can we do 16

[gaunt topaz]

i know. i still wanna see if anything can be done. i'll need to wait for Wes' moon pack to update to see if it does the same. dude's got 13

[faint topaz]

coming soon

[glass abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[gaunt topaz]

hope it didnt sound like i was attacking btw. just tryin to give feedback on performance

[faint topaz]

Thanks for the information. I'll fix it if I figure out what's wrong

[prisma laurel]

Btw @faint topaz I still crash when trying to land on Crystallum when looking at the door lol

That planet hates my existence

XD

[prisma laurel]

;o

[wanton mountain]

had the same issue, for some reason these two mods solved it. Or atleast one of them but i dunno which and too lazy to find out

v49 tho

and you could just buy stuff before the level started. If you bought something under the mission it hardcrashed again

altho the lootship noclips inside a mountain so it's not accessible

[faint topaz]

I'm still waiting

[wanton mountain]

lol

cya on v51

[zinc ermine]

I think all of these desynced interactions/map events are supposed to be resolved with moving to the new LLL

fyi since you guys were talking about updates and such. I think currently there are no outside spawns on some moons. Echoreach and Azure come to mind. I could be wrong though. Spawn curve says they should have spawned by 8-9pm but the only thing we saw was peepers (which have their own spawning logic afaik).

[wanton mountain]

nice!

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.0 >>> 0.2.1 Updated Crystallum

It should work now

[prisma laurel]

🥺 I hope so

[faint topaz]

it would be nice if you tested it😉

[prisma laurel]

@faint topaz 🥹

Finally

[faint topaz]

nice

• 0.3.4 >>> 0.5.0 Updated PsychSanctum

[twilit jay]

oh damn

looks nice

[prisma laurel]

Spectralis getting updated too?

;o

[faint topaz]

yes

but only light fixes and rebalancing

[undone haven]

big day

[proper fable]

argent keeps crashing

[gaunt topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/notalich-mister-krabs-spongebob-oh-gif-26134991

[west pivot]

wait tolian moons didnt get updated

[faint topaz]

after all the moons have been updated, I'll update it

[west pivot]

ok

do these crystal and psych updates include the loot rates

[faint topaz]

yep

[west pivot]

cool, guess ill uninstall the pack and get the individual ones for now

[faint topaz]

There may still be problems with the loot, but I've fixed most of it

[proper fable]

did you fix argent

[faint topaz]

as I recall argent was fixed in the last version

[proper fable]

when I load in it crashes and I see something with masked ai revamp mod in console

[faint topaz]

interesting

[faint topaz]

What if you disable the mod?

[proper fable]

I can test one sec

[west pivot]

but it wont be trash right lol, like not just metal sheet and big bolt and low value stuff

[faint topaz]

I'll be improving the loot types, but in the meantime I need to test how the new variation will work

[west pivot]

wait so is the type of loot for all your moons still the same atm? or is it better loot

[faint topaz]

Yeah, I meant the type of loot

[west pivot]

ok

so theyll be updated not currently gotcha

[faint topaz]

I'm testing some things right now, but the update will be today

[west pivot]

good to hear, no rush

[viral hawk]

Hi, are the puffers and slimes on Harloth considered custom enemies?

[twilit jay]

wait what's the difference between them?

[faint topaz]

no and in the new update I removed them

[twilit jay]

OH

[faint topaz]

reduced their stats so that more of them would spawn

[twilit jay]

ah okay

[faint topaz]

There's no need for that now

[viral hawk]

New update, when?

[faint topaz]

about 20-30 minutes after I check some things out

[prisma laurel]

I can see why Spectralis is super dark right now

Lol

[faint topaz]

xd

I've set up post procesing too rigidly

[viral hawk]

I know spectralis is a simple and small moon but I genuinely like it a lot

[prisma laurel]

I mean I said it before and I'll continue to say it

Spectralis and Crystallum are the most beautiful moons Tolian has released

[viral hawk]

Indeed

I pair it with Scoopys' castle dungeon

It goes hard

[prisma laurel]

The lighting fixes are definitely needed for Spectralis rn though

You land and the lighting gets like

10x darker

XD

[viral hawk]

Adds to the mood i guess!!

I've been testing all of Tolian's moons and I'd say my top 3 is definitely Spectralis, Maritopia and Harloth

[prisma laurel]

Crystallum though

So gorgeous

[viral hawk]

Fuck, I knew I forgot to play on a moon

I need to play on Crystallum

[viral hawk]

Thanks!!

[twilit jay]

okay so far I'm experiencing this issue with the mental asylum interior on psychsanctum-

gonna test if it happens with other interiors or that mental asylum interior is just broken rn-

yeah I think it might the moon, psychsanctum-

I'm entering when it's foggy btw-

so idk if it's cause of that or it's a bug in general

[faint topaz]

interesting

I'll look into it and fix it

[twilit jay]

okay-

I thought it was the mental interior but it's just the moon

[viral hawk]

I can't see the updates on thunderstore?

I see them on the website but not in the app

[faint topaz]

wait

[viral hawk]

My bad

[viral hawk]

You removed the puffers and slimes from Harloth's surface?

[faint topaz]

no

[twilit jay]

They replaced them with the actual versions instead of copies of them.

So it uses starlanceraifix to spawn them outside

[viral hawk]

I'm stupid, I forgot to specify those versions

but thanks

That's cool, I love seeing them outside

I was worried Tolian was removing them

[abstract inlet]

the giant invisible roof on budapest renders stormy inert

lightning keeps striking the invisible ceiling

[faint topaz]

Got it, I'll fix it soon

[abstract inlet]

much appreciated king

[viral hawk]

Does Harloth only support one fire exit?

[faint topaz]

Harloth has one main entrance and two fire entrances

[viral hawk]

Thanks

[viral hawk]

I left the facility through a fire exit and ended outside of the map

[gaunt topaz]

alrighty, tested Crystallum with Lunx. when we left the facility, the flashlights no longer worked. when the ship left without me, i crashed.

id have a log, but i accidentally hit the start button before i could think...

[faint topaz]

it would be nice to get the logs

[gaunt topaz]

best i got i guess?

[viral hawk]

What monsters can spawn outside on Harloth?

Apart from slime and puffer

[west pivot]

lll configs tell u i think

if u go to harloth in LLL config

[faint topaz]

A giant on Crystallum? That's new XD

[faint topaz]

just the two of them

Maybe I'll add someone else, but I have no idea who

[viral hawk]

Earth leviathans?

[faint topaz]

That's not bad, I'll think about it

[viral hawk]

I'd say Eyeless dogs maybe but that would go against the vibe of the map, no?

[faint topaz]

• 0.1.8 >>> 0.1.9 Updated Azure
  - 0.5.3 >>> 0.6.0 Updated Maritopia
  • 0.4.0 >>> 0.5.0 Updated EchoReach
    • 0.1.5 >>> 0.1.9 Updated Spectralis
  • 0.1.6 >>> 0.1.7 Updated Echelon
    • 0.2.3 >>> 0.2.5 Updated Zenit
  • 0.2.7 >>> 0.2.8 Updated Argent
  • 0.2.1 >>> 0.2.2 Updated Nyx
  • 0.1.8 >>> 0.2.1 Updated Crystallum
  • 1.2.1 >>> 1.2.2 Updated Budapest
    • 0.1.1 >>> 0.1.2 Updated Nimbus
  • 0.2.2 >>> 0.2.3 Updated Harloth
  • 0.5.9 >>> 0.7.0 Updated Celestria
  • 0.3.4 >>> 0.5.0 Updated PsychSanctum https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/Tolian_Moons/

[west pivot]

Niiiice

good job bro

[faint topaz]

yep

[west pivot]

ill be shocked if my friends dont enjoy these when we play them, they look so cool

again these should all have like 500K+ dls imo

[west pivot]

loot too? sry just want to 100% make sure

[faint topaz]

yep

[west pivot]

les goooo

[faint topaz]

although I think there's still work to be done to make it perfect

[west pivot]

np

as long as all the moons dont have the same junk lol

[lone quail]

@faint topaz Needs to go to sleep! This will not be uploaded until tomorrow. It is taking forever and I am peer presuring him into going to bed as he feels like crap! GO TO SLEEP TOLIAN!

We will enjoy this tomorrow GO TO SLEEP!

[west pivot]

sheesh

you dont gotta do it now

its not late for me but i assume you a dif timezone

[naive lake]

Fences don't have collisions on Psych

[west pivot]

looking at new moon loot, i think Budapest best moon to go to for solo

[naive lake]

Does Budapest work yet?

[west pivot]

i went there solo and it seemed to work

[mint bough]

@faint topaz when exiting the interior of Spectralis, everything outside goes pitch black

[viral hawk]

Was about to send something about this too lol

It's on every moon that got updated

I reverted back to their previous versions and everything's fine

[viral hawk]

This is a guess; I only tested on Spectralis and Echo Reach

[mint bough]

Nyx also had the same problem

I tested Echelon and it was fine

[viral hawk]

I tested Harloth, seems to be fine

About to test Maritopia

[gaunt topaz]

Crystallum has the same issue. flashlight didnt even work. items went invisible, too XD

[mint bough]

I've had that exact problem happen to me on Maritopia when I was testing it earlier

[viral hawk]

Yeah

[viral hawk]

Are you using CullFactory?

[mint bough]

mhm

[viral hawk]

It's because of CullFactory

Try and disable it

I Had the same issue earlier

[mint bough]

I'll try it now

[viral hawk]

👍

[mint bough]

disabling cullfactory did fix it

huh

I'll revert to the previous versions as well then until Tolian gets around to looking into it

[prisma laurel]

@calm bluff are you able to fix this? I noticed I had similar issues on Sector-0 where some items on the ship got culled and started turning invisible til I picked them up

[calm bluff]

the items sound like they're unrelated to this, but I would appreciate a video fo an instance where that happened, and any other information you can provide relating to that

there's a few reasons why that could happen, but it's likely to be some issue with custom items that I'll have to work around

[prisma laurel]

They were vanilla items which makes it stranger, on Crystallum tools turned invisible like flashlights and shovels and stuff

[calm bluff]

let's move discussion of this over to #1200144261333659729

[calm bluff]

I'll try to test the issue out, it may be that something is teleporting the player outside of the normal vanilla functions

[prisma laurel]

Probably

[calm bluff]

was the previous version of Tolian's moons working on v50 or does that mean you also had to downgrade to v49?

[faint topaz]

I may have missed something when migrating the project to v50

[calm bluff]

it seems odd for this to break if you're using vanilla EntranceTeleports

trying to see if I can reproduce it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a combination of mods that's needed

[prisma laurel]

018f1427-4851-37de-55bc-42042c4da4d9 My pack if you need it

[calm bluff]

thanks, I'll try that if I can't repro the items issue

[calm bluff]

@faint topaz looks like EntranceTeleport "EntranceTeleportA" on the inside points to the AudioReverbPreset.audioPresets index 1, "HangarAmbience" AudioReverbTrigger which contains a switchToAudio instance in the second index of its audioChanges array that has a null audio field

that's what's causing the sun to disappear after leaving the interior, as well as causing CullFactory to be unaware that the player has left the interior

that null deref is causing the teleportation code to never finish

[faint topaz]

Oh, really, I forgot about that😅

I'll try it when I have time

[calm bluff]

I should be able to make a patch for CullFactory that works around this by checking the player position differently, but it won't solve the sun disappearing

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it

[calm bluff]

Sounds good! It brought to light a flaw in my code though, I can modify this so it's a little more reliable in situations like this anyway

[cunning shore]

erm does any1 encounter this problem in Azure?

[midnight coral]

hi we tried to launch the azure moon

got stuck on an invisible plane as the ship was landing

probably that this is the upper plane that delimit the map and the ship is spawning above it or something

[faint topaz]

I'm already in the process of solving all problems

[novel kiln]

same problem here lol was just about to report it

[faint topaz]

For now, you can go back to the previous version or wait😅

[novel kiln]

i can wait im just testing mods rn

do configs generate for the moons pack mod

or naww

[faint topaz]

the moon configs that are in lethallevelloader.cfg?

[west pivot]

yea theyre in LLLs config

[twilit jay]

oh neat the custom moons are listed in the vanilla interior spawns now in the new LLL update-

[novel kiln]

ok ty ty i thought they had their own config file

[twilit jay]

How's the progress updating/fixing the moons with bugs?

[twilit jay]

nice

[gaunt topaz]

beautiful moon, that Spectralis

[twilit jay]

not much of a SUPER MAJOR bug-

But just a weird visual bug with the terrain on Echelon-

Mainly I guess just allowing you to see the void

[faint topaz]

I've fixed it in the new version that's coming out soon😉

[twilit jay]

nice-

Also moon of course works well with school interior lamo

[west pivot]

today? no rush just curious, azure is like the best free moon for solo imo so i kinda wanted to play it

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.1 >>> 0.2.2 Updated Crystallum

• 0.1.9 >>> 0.2.0 Updated Spectralis

[mint bough]

[faint topaz]

• 0.1.9 >>> 0.2.0 Updated Azure

• 0.2.8 >>> 0.2.9 Updated Argent

• 0.1.2 >>> 0.1.3 Updated Nimbus

[hasty spruce]

Oh lord Azure looks so much better now

[faint topaz]

• 1.2.2 >>> 1.2.3 Updated Budapest

[west pivot]

is the whole pack updating today?

[west pivot]

i only played on it once so far, how so?

[faint topaz]

after all the moons have been updated, I'll update the package

[west pivot]

noooice (i meant all the moons)

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.3 >>> 0.2.4 Updated Harloth
  • 0.7.0 >>> 0.7.1 Updated Celestria

[gaunt topaz]

so there is a small bug with Crystallum, but in my opinion, it aint really necessary to fix. we have Rosie's Moons installed. when you leave the ship area then return, ambience will start playing; a faint version of the Sector-0 music. chef's kiss bug right there, Tolian. thank you 🫂

[gaunt topaz]

stone be throwing

https://tenor.com/view/stone-casting-throw-stones-gif-17442163

(shit happens)

[faint topaz]

xd

not bad

time to remove the stones

[mint bough]

https://tenor.com/view/catch-stone-rock-sado-gif-25520434

[faint topaz]

• 0.1.9 >>> 0.2.0 Updated Azure
  - 0.6.0 >>> 0.6.1 Updated Maritopia
  • 0.5.0 >>> 0.5.5 Updated EchoReach
    • 0.1.9 >>> 0.2.0 Updated Spectralis
  • 0.1.7 >>> 0.1.8 Updated Echelon
    • 0.2.5 >>> 0.3.0 Updated Zenit
  • 0.2.8 >>> 0.2.9 Updated Argent
  • 0.2.2 >>> 0.2.3 Updated Nyx
  • 0.2.1 >>> 0.2.2 Updated Crystallum
  • 1.2.2 >>> 1.2.3 Updated Budapest
    • 0.1.0 >>> 0.1.4 Updated Nimbus
  • 0.2.3 >>> 0.2.4 Updated Harloth
  • 0.7.0 >>> 0.7.1 Updated Celestria
  • 0.5.0 >>> 0.5.1 Updated PsychSanctum

[twilit jay]

[west pivot]

sheeeeeeeesh

bro speedrunning updates

[vestal pivot]

i'm on the roof of azure

[faint topaz]

the problem has been fixed in the new version

[vestal pivot]

I just downloaded it D:

i'll restart r2modman and try again

[vestal pivot]

Would you need to update the Tolian_Moons package?

[faint topaz]

If you are using the tolian_moons you need to wait as I downloaded it recently

[vestal pivot]

alright then

[west pivot]

cool thank u bruv

[twilit jay]

some reason maritopia isn't killing me or making me drown when I fall off into the water-

[west pivot]

were loot rates changed more in these new updates?

[twilit jay]

yea they're varied now

and not the same anymore

[gaunt topaz]

righto, on Harloth, we went thru a fire exit and fell into the void. we ended up back at the ship, but still

[ruby gate]

and I DIED 💔

[wooden aurora]

can load into all the maps except for Argent and Budapest. they crash my game upon pulling the landing lever. and there's nothing in the console explaining as to why

[faint topaz]

That's very interesting

I'll take a look and fix it

[faint topaz]

Does the crash occur on the newest versions as well?

[prisma laurel]

It was pretty funny, my friend did find a stair case that led to nothing that I would guess is where the Fire Exit was supposed to be

[wooden aurora]

yeah, updated about an hour before I posted that

[faint topaz]

It would be nice to get a log

[faint topaz]

The transition to v50 has hurt the moons quite a bit

Time to fix the bugs

[wooden aurora]

just spams that until the game closes

[faint topaz]

@wooden aurora Can you send me that log?

It should be located in the BeplnEx folder

[night urchin]

psychsanctum's fences don't have collision

[wanton mountain]

climbing up the door when leaving main on nyx
pretty good lookout tho

probably spawns inside the door when leaving resulting in the climb, just a guess

v50

[wanton mountain]

Maritopia main entrance share the same door with a fire exist?

[dark crow]

which is the top 3 tolian moons?

[wanton mountain]

when in main entrance>
Inside it said i came in thru fire exit>
Ran around found main>
Came out the same spot as the fire exit/main
When in again and it seem like i entered thru fire exit

[glass abyss]

me when

(using the tolian moonpack)

[faint topaz]

interesting

[wanton mountain]

both doors are maybe at the same spot?

[faint topaz]

yes

I'll fix that problem soon

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.4 >>> 0.2.5 Updated Harloth

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.3 >>> 0.2.4 Updated Nyx

[undone haven]

so if I want to stay on top of updates should I install them individually instead of using the pack?

[faint topaz]

• 0.6.1 >>> 0.6.2 Updated Maritopia
• 0.5.1 >>> 0.5.2 Updated PsychSanctum

[faint topaz]

I refresh the package the same way I refresh the moons, but only after about 45 minutes

[prisma laurel]

Crystallum update coming too? 🥺

[faint topaz]

I'm testing a new version right now

[prisma laurel]

Yay 😄

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.2 >>> 0.2.3 Updated Crystallum
• 1.2.3 >>> 1.2.4 Updated Budapest
• 0.6.1 >>> 0.6.2 Updated Maritopia
• 0.5.1 >>> 0.5.2 Updated PsychSanctum
• 0.2.3 >>> 0.2.4 Updated Nyx
• 0.2.4 >>> 0.2.5 Updated Harloth

[prisma laurel]

Yay for Crystallum update

No more rock causing game crash

Lol

[faint topaz]

Yeah, I removed that rock

[west pivot]

the rock of death

[mint bough]

@faint topaz very minor thing, but the stone path leading up to the entrance of the building on Psychsanctum has grass footstep sounds

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it

[floral wing]

Is there any plans to make clearer directs to the entrances I get lost quite often on some of the maps

[faint topaz]

for Celestria

[floral wing]

I got lost on the one with the long stone pathways it’s hard to remember the name because there’s so many moons

[faint topaz]

I'll figure something out, but I need to make it fit the atmosphere

[floral wing]

Spectralis

Thanks!

[high sierra]

Strange architecture on Nyx
Also, how is the player supposed to bring 2-handed items on the ship? The ship is too high!
And finally, for some reason my supply pod didn't arrive when I landed on Nyx. I didn't miss the delivery because I would be notified if I did.

[olive shuttle]

a ramp or lift upgrade for the ship would be cool

woops wrong thread

[faint topaz]

interesting

I'll fix it

[west pivot]

can somebody tell me where the fire exit is on budapest

[west pivot]

relative to the ship tho?

[west pivot]

right then

[west pivot]

thank u

[west pivot]

wait that first one is reachable lol?

looks like you cant even get to that one

[faint topaz]

only with a ladder

[west pivot]

oooh

[faint topaz]

• 0.1.3 >>> 0.1.5 Updated Nimbus

[prisma laurel]

@queen knoll

[ancient crane]

so... @faint topaz is there a enemy called Lost in one of your moons?

[proper fable]

@faint topaz did you remove the custom risk level for your moons

like harloth

[sleek crater]

dude

unless they enable it

its disabled

[proper fable]

Ik but they had it enabled before so I'm confused why all of my moons suddenly disabled it at the same time

[sleek crater]

when is before

[proper fable]

before the v50 lll update

[sleek crater]

sick

this feature didnt exist

until the v50 lll update

next time please spend a little more time on what your asking so you don't have to ask me 15 questions then go and ask two other devs in other channels more questions

i know you mean well but

[proper fable]

sorry, I was getting ready to upload my modpack and all the rarity's changed so I have to redo all the configs for scrap/enemy spawning. So I was just making sure it was not a lll issue.

[thorny kernel]

entering nimbus facility immediately kills me lmao

cracked

[viral hawk]

I've had that with EchoReach in multiplayer, all 4 of us entered the facility within 5 seconds and I'm the only one that died from fall damage apparently

[high sierra]

Dungeon desync maybe?

[glass abyss]

Config or dungeon desync yeah

[high sierra]

I remember School Interior always had me and my friends existing in different planes of existence

Not sure how much of that is user mistake, dependency issue or interior issue

[glass abyss]

You should report that with logs either way

[faint topaz]

I guess not

[small sparrow]

based pfp

soad my beloved

[faint topaz]

solved in the latest version

[faint topaz]

I'll leave the P level

[faint topaz]

• 1.7.2 >>> 1.7.3 Updated Tolian_Moons
  • All moons have been updated and the desynchronization problem has been fixed

[proper fable]

Alright I was just using that as an example, my favorite rating was the SS but you can choose what ever you want since it’s your moons. 👍

[viral hawk]

Ooh!! Nice!!

[ancient crane]

🫱 🫲

[small sparrow]

I have every system album on vinyl too, and hypnotize was actually the last one I got

[glass abyss]

got stuck in seed on nyx

also seeing white dots everywhere on nyx

and the rock near the ship is shifting

also exiting the main door on nyx puts you face forward

[glass abyss]

like this

[faint topaz]

Got it, I'll fix it

[glass abyss]

i also think theres a dog stuck in that far left corner

[west pivot]

howd u walk around in nyx if u got stuck on seed

[glass abyss]

its inconsistent and i still dont know why it happens

last time remnants errored out so i just got rid of it

[west pivot]

ok

[west pivot]

also dont know if u know this, but when u say lgu causes issues, does that mean upgrades wont work even on solo?

[glass abyss]

i think lgu is broken clientside

[west pivot]

so solo should work?

[glass abyss]

i guess yeah

[west pivot]

cool

[glass abyss]

got bees inside on echelon

[faint topaz]

They don't even have an inside spawn point

rather oddly

[faint topaz]

look in the LLL cfg

[glass abyss]

lets see

yeah i might be insane, idk why they appeared there

[manic cobalt]

Do you have Starlancers enemy escape or something similar?

[glass abyss]

yesssssss

but i thought bees would be off by default?

[manic cobalt]

Oh, well maybe just check the config, you could have bees on by accident

[glass abyss]

ok yeah, they are on by default with a weight of 5

[west pivot]

just to clarify: budapest only has 1 fire exit?

[faint topaz]

2

[west pivot]

ive only found the one u can get to with ladder

is the one i havent found near main?

[faint topaz]

to the left of the main

[west pivot]

found it

[glass abyss]

Forget all i said bout the bees, it was lethal missions

also i saw a flying tree on echelon

[glass abyss]

send help

tulip snakes have failed me

[undone haven]

just crashed after pulling the lever for budapest 😭

[upper nebula]

Every time on Crystallum, whenever an enemy is near the main entrance they get stuck pathfinding towards the door. You can lead them away but as soon as they lose agro they go back to the door. We do have Starlancer's enemy escape opn, but this isn't the intended use so not sure which is the issue

@obtuse basin in case this is a you issue, I will post logs once we've ended the run

@faint topaz

[faint topaz]

I'll fix that

[obtuse basin]

Yee sfDesat ran into a similar issue with Aquatis. Tolian's got a handle on it tho, but if my help is needed lemme know

[faint topaz]

I take it this is caused by StarlancerEnemyEscape?

[obtuse basin]

In a sense. You just need more AI nodes near your entrance and it should resolve the issue

[shut gorge]

I can't route to the company building and I only have tolian moons on. Is this normal?

[zenith jay]

I've been seeing reports of not being able to do that with LLL 1.2.2. I'm not sure it's caused by Tolian moons

[cosmic sluice]

I JUST got this exact problem too, right now. I can't press enter when I write company, but other commands work

[shut gorge]

yea same

logs just spits a bunch of red text

[cosmic sluice]

where are these logs?

[shut gorge]

the bepinex window when you launch the game

i forgot to copy them

[twilit jay]

It's easy to fix by downgrading level loader

[glass abyss]

i was playing tolian+ lll 1.2.2 all day, its something else defo

[twilit jay]

I have no custom moons and I had that issue

[primal oracle]

Yeah downgrading LLL to v1.2.1 fixed that for me

Batby mustve broken something in the new patch

[twilit jay]

Yeah he fixed scrap being swapped when entering the save

And a safe fix to allow old saves to old.

So I assume it might be how he did it, being that issue

[primal oracle]

I had the same issue with trying to buy a rocket launcher but thats not a vanilla item

Same thing, doesnt do anything when pressing enter

[proper fable]

W

[solemn sorrel]

havent tried this moons out yet but i got a selection of 4 and imma try em out with friends tonight so

I think Azure, Crystallum, and Zenit look cool af

dunno about harloth but the name is cool so

[viral hawk]

this looks INSANE

[naive lake]

I'm getting some Doom 2016 vibes from this

[west pivot]

spectralis and nyx are really cool too if u like those 4

[proper fable]

what moon is that

[naive lake]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/CaltPrime/

[proper fable]

when did that come out

[naive lake]

11 minutes ago lol

[proper fable]

lol

[prisma laurel]

Test it for bugs and see how it's Optimization is

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.5 >>> 0.2.8 Updated Nyx
• CaltPrime relesed

[naive lake]

I didn't try it, I assume performance is very bad?

[prisma laurel]

Idk

I said test it

[faint topaz]

No, it definitely doesn't crash on startup

[naive lake]

mb I just thought she said that because she tried it and performance were bad

[prisma laurel]

It's good to start testing these moons on release so Tolian can be made aware of issues quicker

[west pivot]

will there be an addition of this moon to the moon pack today

[faint topaz]

yes

[west pivot]

les gooo

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.4 >>> 0.2.6 Updated Crystallum

[prisma laurel]

@faint topaz CaltPrime released in a really good state from my testing good job, however I have to ask why are there like 3 or 4 unused doors?

[faint topaz]

I guess there's no point in using a lot of doors

I'm thinking of blocking off some doors with something

[prisma laurel]

Yeah I could see that being really cool, good job on the release though it feels like a passion project and more Industrial Moons are always good

[plush silo]

Does Maritopia not have water anymore?

[glass abyss]

it has a water texture

unless i was playing an outdated version

[plush silo]

It doesn't seem to ahve any water

Just a flat death area below

[glass abyss]

yeah

not even a death area btw

[digital bluff]

@faint topaz Do you optimize your audio for your moons?

[solemn sorrel]

#1193461151636398080 message

me and crew having a desync on harloth, i had facility they had mansions, mansion isnt even set for harloth so

someone said to drop this here too so i am

k so

all your moons are desync'd currently or somn

for me at least

'll send more logs

#1193461151636398080 message

018f22fb-0d18-729e-2ef9-430d5ce2e739

my profile code if needed

[pastel plinth]

dropship items on nyx fall through under floor and cant be grabbed

[gaunt topaz]

https://i.gyazo.com/3690d5efbd887879299006feafde68b8.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/e1cbcb0f8fba631f202e13432abd5845.png

^speedrun strats that lead nowhere on Calt Prime.
basically, no collider in the fences, meaning you can go out of bounds

[ruby gate]

and looks like Masked go into the floor when exiting main

[faint topaz]

Are you using the latest versions of moons?

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it soon

[solemn sorrel]

yes

only thing that wasnt the latest version was LLL to avoid the company issue that was happening, thats the only lead i have on the issue

[faint topaz]

interesting

[prisma laurel]

Besides these 2 issues though it's impressive how stable and optimized the moon is tbh

[wind otter]

@faint topaz What is the correct order of the moons? I wanna attempt an Ironman for your moons.

[faint topaz]

in terms of difficulty?

[wind otter]

I suppose, difficulty and cost. Just like how with a vanilla ironman you start at exp and end on titan.

[faint topaz]

Maritopia(D) >
Nyx(C) >
Azure(C) >

Crystallum(B)(150) >>
Echelon(B)(180) >>
EchoReach(B)(200) >>

Spectralis(A)(400) >>>
PsychSanctum(A)(410) >>>
Nimbus(A)(500) >>>
Zenit(A)(520)
Argent(A)(540) >>> the moon may be having crashing problems right now(I'll make a patch for it soon)

Celestria(S)(650) >>>>
Budapest(S)(800) >>>>
Harloth(S+)(910) >>>>
CaltPrime(SS)(1000) >>>>

[faint topaz]

@sleek crater It's pretty weird, I wonder what caused the desynchronization this time(mod conflict?)

[wind otter]

Awesome thanks ❤️ Ill be running some trial stuff today :3 looks like a good challenge especially around the end 😄

So you suggest avoiding Argent atm?

[faint topaz]

for the time being

[wind otter]

Alright 🙂

[faint topaz]

If it weighs a lot, yeah

[high sierra]

Ahahahahha I just had that happen to me
They jumpscared me when I walked across the beam from the ship
Then three of them grabbed me and I accidentally flew on top of an out of bounds skyscraper and then they fell down into the pit so I got stuck xD

And that's how I discovered there's no water trigger on this map too

[faint topaz]

• 0.6.9 >>> 0.7.0 Updated Maritopia
• 0.5.3 >>> 0.5.4 Updated PsychSanctum
• 0.2.0 >>> 0.2.1 Updated CaltPrime

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.8 >>> 0.3.0 Updated Nyx
• 0.3.0 >>> 0.3.2 Updated Argent

[wind otter]

@faint topaz Would be cool if the PsychSanctum had a mental hospital interior 👀 love the vibe of that moon, but getting into a mansion interior feels so wrong 🤣

[faint topaz]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Dantor/Dantors_Mental_Hospital/

[wind otter]

Ooooh!! Can i make it a 100% chance on PsychSanctum in the config? That’d be amazing for community play

[faint topaz]

Yes, There are many other still interiors that you can find here

[wind otter]

Awesome, ill look into that! :3

[gaunt topaz]

love me some Calt Prime

[faint topaz]

looks great

[high sierra]

It's probably annoying constantly rolling out updates for every little thing, but...
Floating tree on Echelon to the left of the path from ship to main entrance

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it soon

[high sierra]

Got a chance to play on CaltPrime but I got myself stuck inside of this silo thing between Ship and Main
Tried using it as a ledge but fell down a hole in the corner, now I cannot get out

||really cool moon though! Love the idea behind multi-level entrances||

[glass abyss]

so uh

no water on harloth

[faint topaz]

Got it. I'll fix it

[glass abyss]

ive also been told that your moons have desyncs in lll thread

#1193461151636398080 message

[solemn sorrel]

good to know i aint the only one having issues

[glass abyss]

also i dont think i can get 2 handed items on the ship on harloth

[faint topaz]

I wonder if the desynchronisation is because of Harloth?

[glass abyss]

going twice on harloth, same guy has desync

he has factory

[solemn sorrel]

got it also on crystallum

i probably assume the same happens for the other moons

maybe, idk

[glass abyss]

ill tell y'all if i route to a non tolian moon and if that happens again

[faint topaz]

probably because I switched to the new LLL

hmm

[solemn sorrel]

probably wont cause i went through aquatis and bozoros no issue

[high sierra]

You sure not the School Interior's peoblem?

[solemn sorrel]

tho if it does thats a big issue

[solemn sorrel]

dont even have that installed

honestly it just might be cause i had to downgrade the version to fix the company issue

[faint topaz]

I'd wait for the new version of LLL

[solemn sorrel]

so i'll test whenever batsy fixes that

yeah

will come back whenever the update comes out 🫡

oh yeah also i do wanna say harloth and crystallum are like amazing looking

ive seen somewhat azure and thats cool

[glass abyss]

yeah i cant for the life of me get 2 handed items on harloth

[solemn sorrel]

havent seen zenit yet

[glass abyss]

not without a ladder that is

bls fix

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it

[glass abyss]

azure desynced another client (not the same guy)

[faint topaz]

try disabling Harloth

[primal oracle]

I was told it was because youre including the facilities on your moon

[faint topaz]

#1208849588539101294 message

[primal oracle]

I see

[faint topaz]

I removed the facilities

[dark crow]

https://streamable.com/ay33kp new dropship fits new moon so well

[high sierra]

Yeahhhhhhh! This mod is already getting around

[faint topaz]

I may have found the problem

[solemn sorrel]

the desync issue or a dif issue

[faint topaz]

desync

although I've only found desynchronisation with the new moon

although I'm not sure that's gonna solve the situation

• 0.2.1 >>> 0.2.3 Updated CaltPrime

[floral wing]

whens the new interior your working on is it any time soon?

[faint topaz]

after the release of one very important moon

[digital bluff]

Alright, just checking, I usually bring all my audio down to 1 and it seems like it doesnt affect quality too much, I had assumed Spectralis mightve been so large file wise due to the audio

[prisma laurel]

@faint topaz for some reason the interiors are still desyncing on the moons, specifically when someone late joins but idk why it's only happening with your moons only

[glass abyss]

its not only his

orion also has this issue

yeah late join might be the case although im using lobby fixes, thanks for the heads up

[prisma laurel]

I wonder why this doesn't happen with Starlancer or Rosie's moons though

[glass abyss]

yes

exact same thought

also didnt happen on secret labs

[prisma laurel]

@digital bluff @obtuse basin you both got any ideas?

[digital bluff]

No clue 😅

[faint topaz]

@flat nexus

[glass abyss]

and i can confirm those two were late joining

yikes

[prisma laurel]

@sleek crater maybe you might know why this issue is specific to Tolian and sfDesat's moons

[obtuse basin]

not a clue, unfortunately

[solemn sorrel]

i would like to add that the people i was playing with when it desyncd were there from the start

[faint topaz]

• 0.2.6 >>> 0.3.1 Updated Harloth

[prisma laurel]

Btw if you want some interesting info

The people who late joined before we landed saw the wrong moon on the monitor

My friend who got Mansion desynced on Harloth said the moon they saw on the monitor was Spectralis before we landed

[faint topaz]

So far I have no idea how to fix the desynchronisation🥲

[prisma laurel]

Yeah hopefully Batby has an idea

[gaunt topaz]

im tellin ya, Tolian. we'd be happy to test them prerelease for ya. Lun specializes in this XD

[prisma laurel]

Yeah but this isn't really an issue caused by CaltPrime as far as I'm aware he fixed the issue of it including Facility on accident

Why are late joiners seeing Harloth as Spectralis?

[gaunt topaz]

oh i meant his moons in general. sure not EVERYTHING can be found, but it'd at least get em up and runnin nice enough for multiplayer :>

[ruby gate]

It wasn't just Harloth

[faint topaz]

I'm wondering too why this is happening

[ruby gate]

It was saying Spectralis when I rejoined and we went to Calt

[prisma laurel]

So I think the bug

is with Spectralis somehow

[faint topaz]

can check this by disabling Spectralis

[prisma laurel]

@glass abyss can you do me a favor

Is your group also seeing Spectralis when desynced?

[glass abyss]

no idea

[prisma laurel]

Can you test?

Because if that's the case that's huge

[glass abyss]

cant rn, will try next time we're up for lc

[solemn sorrel]

i wanna input that i didnt have spectralis installed when my groups desync happened

[glass abyss]

what about orion? when i desynced there i had all tolian moons disabled

[prisma laurel]

Ahhhh

So something weird is happening for sure

[faint topaz]

probably the same thing

[solemn sorrel]

i believe we went from the company building to harloth, which is saw facility they had mansion despite mansion not being set to show up there in LLL's config

then we went to cyrtallum, same issue, we all fell through the floor

[glass abyss]

im pretty sure every time a desync happened it was with a vanilla interior

[solemn sorrel]

well they did i didnt

[prisma laurel]

They probably saw another of Desat's moons for some reason

[glass abyss]

but cant confirm cause i dont have the footage

[solemn sorrel]

wdym?

[prisma laurel]

When the Orion issue happened

[solemn sorrel]

you @'d the wrong person i think

[prisma laurel]

On your end before you landed

They probably saw another of Tolian's moons

It's strange this even happens because Starlancer and Rosie's moons are fine

[solemn sorrel]

im confused are you talking to me still or blade

[prisma laurel]

So there is something they're setting up correctly that Tolian and Desat aren't

both of you tbh

[solemn sorrel]

we didnt have orion installed and idk what they saw

but i think one of the planets they said it was stormy despite it not being for me

[glass abyss]

weather desyncs???????????????? better call mrov

[solemn sorrel]

it was only when the other desyncs started to happen

wearher tweaks worked fine up till we went to harloth so i dont think its somn mrov has to worry about maybe

[west pivot]

maybe test downgrading the planets that the bugs happened on?

That could point out what updates cause the issue

[glass abyss]

well one thing was for sure consistent, on all the three planets it was the same two players who were desynced

[west pivot]

and the devs could check what they did that broke something

[prisma laurel]

This is more so

an issue for Batby to help diagnose

[solemn sorrel]

i dont think thatmd be the best idea considering supposedly the previous update for the moons was supposed to fix this exact issue

[prisma laurel]

Downgrading would be worse cus then the Facility Dungeon is gonna be included inside the moons

Which also causes desyncs

[solemn sorrel]

so that'd probably break it further lmao, what they said

[west pivot]

well then downgrade more? lol idk

[solemn sorrel]

anyways uhhh while im here can someone drescribe zenit to me thanks

ik its icy and stuff

mountainy

is that p much it or is there more

[west pivot]

icy planet with ice cave-like tunnels you go through to get to entrances

super cool

[solemn sorrel]

cave, alright

probably gonna drop whatever interiors i put on gloom in there then

[west pivot]

well, it starts as an open area, but then theres this crossroad of tunnels you can go through to get inside

[west pivot]

what other moons?

[tepid moth]

This moon based on images gives me drydock vibe from titanfall 2

[prisma laurel]

So in our pack we had Spectralis, Harloth, and CaltPrime

The players desynced saw Spectralis on the monitor

[solemn sorrel]

hope basty noticed tolian's @, i'd really wanna be able to play his moons with my group without issues

[prisma laurel]

@sleek crater I apologize to ping you again but maybe you can help Tolian fix this issue? It seems like sfDesat's moons are also experiencing the same issue but Starlancer and Rosie's moons don't experience this desyncing issue at all

[sleek crater]

I saw the first ping 👍

[prisma laurel]

Okay ^^ I understand you're busy working on the LLL update too so I understand if you can't get to it right away, it is a strange issue though

[high sierra]

Ooh it does
I guess it makes sense since they're both used for the same kind of purpose

[calm bluff]

most important thing is always to see if you can reproduce it consistently, I don't know if Batby or anyone else is necessarily going to have an easy solution ready to throw out there

if an issue is able to be reproduced 100%, that usually makes it trivial to fix

if you encounter it, I would recommend noting the seed down and seeing if it happens again when overriding it to the same one

[prisma laurel]

We did reproduce it consistently

It happened only if someone late joined

[calm bluff]

and only happened to that player?

[prisma laurel]

They would see Spectralis when routing to Harloth or CaltPrime

Yeah

[calm bluff]

wait, I thought it was an interior desync we were talking about, is Spectralis an interior?

[prisma laurel]

It's a moon

[calm bluff]

interior

[prisma laurel]

For some reason before landing if late joined they would see Spectralis, which then would cause them to get the Mansion layout on Harloth or CaltPrime

Cus Spectralis has a high Mansion spawn rate

[calm bluff]

hmm

[prisma laurel]

This only would happen with Harloth and CaltPrime too

[calm bluff]

very odd if the moon shows up correctly and not the interior then

[solemn sorrel]

my issue was that my crew was in a mansion while i was in a facility on harloth/crystallum

[prisma laurel]

Rosie's moons don't experience this nor do Starlancer's

[solemn sorrel]

no other vanilla/modded moon was having issues just tolians

for me at least

[prisma laurel]

Next time you play

You should note what moon they see on the monitor before you land

[solemn sorrel]

wont be for a bit

ae usually play once a week at most

[prisma laurel]

Obviously in my pack I think Spectralis was causing issues

and idk why

[calm bluff]

and this would only happen if the routing was already locked in before the player joined?

[prisma laurel]

Cus idk why they would see that moon specifically, I wonder if it's somehow including assets it shouldn't which desyncs stuff

[prisma laurel]

No

We played on some of Rosie's moons for a while actually

I routed to Harloth

and they saw Spectralis on the monitor

This issue only happened with Tolian's moons for some reason for late joiners Spectralis wanted to take priority it seems

[solemn sorrel]

ik this is between you two but i figure i should add on cause it might help so sorry if im injecting a bit too much here-

none of my friends had disconnected or joined late we all joined before starting

[prisma laurel]

But when landing they would see the proper moon but get the interior desynced

[calm bluff]

I was about to ask about this, I'm wondering if this is really related to late joining

[prisma laurel]

Well in your case you were having issues on Crystallum

[solemn sorrel]

and harloth

[prisma laurel]

Crystallum has had a lot of issues unfortunately

[solemn sorrel]

that was when the issues started

[zenith jay]

My group played with my pack last night and we went to Orion for one quota and then CaltPrime for another and no one had any desync. No one joined mid game tho

[prisma laurel]

So in your pack I would place my bets on Crystallum causing issues

[solemn sorrel]

i dont think it does if it still happened regardless of how all of us were there since the start

[calm bluff]

I wonder if it could be related to something that happened earlier

[solemn sorrel]

imma take a gamble and say i dont think that really would make sense

how would crystallum effect harloth if we didnt even go to crystallum until after

[calm bluff]

@prisma laurel you said it happens consistently, but how many times has this happened in separate lobbies?

[prisma laurel]

🤷‍♀️

[digital bluff]

Yeah, moons are pretty isolated from other issues

[prisma laurel]

We had this happen multiple times on stream earlier

[calm bluff]

multiple times in what sequence of events?