Tolian's Moons and Interiors

[lone quail]

But I refuse to support AC so I do not add it to my testing, and won't.

https://tenor.com/view/beer-german-celebrate-party-gif-11307779000836839042

[plain kraken]

what is AC?

[ancient crane]

advanced company

[faint topaz]

interesting

Better already

[cyan shadow]

no no like 4 out of 6 failed and fell

before it was 2 out of 5

[plain kraken]

there's even more underneath, with duplicate custom interiors, hopefully this is why we've been having desync

[faint topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[faint topaz]

ah okey

[faint topaz]

in theory, this could be the cause of desynchronization

[cyan shadow]

here left is mine, as a host, right is one of the players with a desync in maritopia

[faint topaz]

check this @cyan shadow @digital delta

[cyan shadow]

jsut to add, they also have a 4 and 5 custom dungeons matching mine

trying that now

[sleek crater]

its not

its curious because this problem seemed to go from non reported to highly reported weeks after my last update

but i do understand the problem and ideally would love to fix it

[cyan shadow]

I dont get it, now mine has duplicate entries :/

[cyan shadow]

we have not tested it yet, but I have not reloaded or done anything jnust closed the game and reopened it . now my list is like this

im going to reload my own new code 018e0698-4ddb-5391-a5fe-fed96883caec to see if its fixed

[faint topaz]

That's right

[faint topaz]

Here, this issue is often discussed.....

[faint topaz]

Try reaching out to the channel - https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1169069074572116041 - perhaps they can find the cause there

[cyan shadow]

we will remove the exploration mod and maritopia, the sync issues is too much

thanks anyway though lol

[green anchor]

@faint topaz Actually we tried again and for some reasons, without any mods modifications, LLL decided to create new entries in the config, simply because he wanted too, so some maps got fixed but some don't

Currently forking LLL to make the corrections on my side to play with my friends, until the next update comes out

[faint topaz]

ah

[flat nexus]

Maybe it’s a problem with the explorations modpack? Most of the people experiencing desync use the modpack or am I wrong?

[green anchor]

I don't thinks it's caused by custom moons, for me it's just because LLL don't sort bundles when he gather them, so it cause unexpected behavior, even microsoft tell that the order is not guaranted :
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.io.directory.getfiles?view=net-5.0
So using semi random order to set level IDs will eventually cause trouble, especially when you start to have 40/50 differents moons

[sleek crater]

Yeah

I'll probably sort custom content alphabetically after i register it in the future

Just the bundle files won't be enough

[pseudo oyster]

i would really appreciate if you made that public so that me and my friends can use it as well, we've been getting this issue quite a bit in the past few days

[faint topaz]

Initially, the error was always on Maritopia , and after many tests and checks, we concluded that System was broken. Then, I extracted a working System from the map EchoReach and placed it on Maritopia. After numerous tests, the desynchronization disappeared, and duplication as well

[green anchor]

So maybe SCP Labs, Atlas Abyss or Egypt have something wrong on there side too ?

Wondering

[faint topaz]

I think so too.

[sleek crater]

no

[green anchor]

contradictory answers lol

[sleek crater]

i'd hope mine has a little more weight

[faint topaz]

yes

It's just a speculation because even without Maritopia, these maps are duplicated, so I assumed that

[green anchor]

I will keep you updated, it's not really complicated to fix, i will probably do some work on the config handling as well, are you opening to MR or you don't care @sleek crater ? If you need some time to publish your new version, i can just publish a temporary fix for that

If you are okay with that ofc

[sleek crater]

can't promise specific changes will make it in but its chill

getfiles isnt the problem though

the related levels and dungeon lists need to be consistently sorted

[green anchor]

I can add some ugly getset that sort everytime the collection is modified/getted, excluding vanilla maps ofc

[sleek crater]

just need to do it after its all modified

[green anchor]

Oh yeah i see where

Will do that, waiting for your update 🙂
And amazing work ! Don't hesitate if you need anything.

[faint topaz]

Then let's wait for the update

[sleek crater]

I wouldn't

[faint topaz]

It's entirely possible that the issue is with the modpack

It needs to be checked

[cyan shadow]

had the same desync without the modpack, using the secret labs map, with the scp interior, 1 of 4 was in the void/falling and died

same code, same LLL cfg

but a new playerr, he downloaded the code as a new player , first time playing with us today

[faint topaz]

thanks for the info

[faint topaz]

@flat nexus

[cyan shadow]

018e06e3-209d-adb6-2185-b0affdd5330e using this code

that is his cfg, I am confused , he used the code and he is the only one with a different cfg. I assume custom level with same numebr cause the bug

[pseudo oyster]

yes that seems to be the issue, something is causing players to randomly get duplicate configs which in turn causes desync

[digital delta]

Apologies for the harsh consclusion Batby 😂

[digital delta]

Jeez man with these dupes

[plain kraken]

yeah idk

[undone haven]

[green anchor]

Didn't tested yet but i did some modifications on LLL on a fork, i still need to test it and clean a bit the logs, but i fixed the random order of the maps for the LLL part (LEcore still loading in his own order, i don't want to touch to that) and fixed the problem with the duplicate config by deleting OrpheanEntries in the config file of BepInEx
https://github.com/KatsuKumi/LethalLevelLoaderFixed/commit/c07885871f11220e976ae7d00d4ee229b0fc8a6f
Nothing too fancy really, but it seems to be enough

[sleek crater]

I get it's in good faith but the icon is a little shitty. Will look into implementing the other changes in any future versions of LLL.
And yeah you can't reorganize LE moons. the mod breaks if you change their levelID's.

As mentioned previously, I don't think sorting the assetbundle files actually does anything here. Correct me if I'm wrong

Also you'll likely want to sort them by their Object names after they are sanitised, rather than NumberlessPlanetNames. The latter are prone to change in translations

[obtuse basin]

Finally got around to playing with your moons @faint topaz, Maritopia is really cool!
The interior is very foggy though, which I've had happen on my moons as well, it's to do with the global volume fog settings

[digital delta]

It’s okay Batby. As for now, if he’s confident enough that the changes he made will have an impact with desync issues, let him push and release the version first and we’ll do some test cases for modded moons that corresponds to modded interiors, and we’ll update from our side if those changes will be rectified ir not.

As for test cases, first we will try to disable everything except LLL (and the dependencies), modded moons and modded interiors.

[sleek crater]

I don't mean this to be rude in any way, but you don't need to speak for them

[digital delta]

Sorry if I sounded like I was trying to speak for them or anything I was just trying to help.

[faint topaz]

Thanks, I'll fix it in the future.

[green anchor]

I'm just sharing because some poeple are asking, yeah, sorting bundle don't do anything, since StartCoroutine just mess up with the order anyway.
Also made the logo edit in like 3.4 seconds speedrun because it was 5 am lol, it's not like i'm taking it seriously, i can make it even uglier 👍
Just chill, it's just a temp fix until you are getting yours done, i don't want to overthink about it if it works.

[prisma laurel]

@green anchor Thanks for uploading the Fork to Thunderstore to get these bugs fixed until Batby feels better

[dark night]

i love maritopia so much aswell

[faint topaz]

Update
0.4.5 >>> 0.4.6 Updated Maritopia
0.1.7 >>> 0.2.0 Updated PsychSanctum

[gaunt topaz]

psychsanctum no longer gets stuck on seed screen (as of 0.1.7). nice and quiet map 🙂

[elder crypt]

yes its really beautiful its honestly a better solace and compets with the new celest update

[flat nexus]

It looks very nice. btw you can add an override for bloom and set it to something like 0.001 and the threshold to 10. The sun will get a bit of a bloom effect.

[faint topaz]

I'll think about it, thanks😉

[lunar seal]

is it possible for beehives to spawn on any of your moons or even just psych moon?

[arctic pagoda]

I had an issue in Maritopia where I had fallen off the edge of the structures and there was no water at the bottom and I didn't die from the fall damage, I think because of perks. I had to run off the edge of the map. Not sure how to reproduce because within my same modpack there was water another time I fell.

[faint topaz]

I'll make a kill-trigger

[faint topaz]

Yeah, I'm thinking of adding it to PsychSanctum

[green anchor]

Do you use LGU ?

[arctic pagoda]

LGU?

[green anchor]

LateGameUpgrade

[arctic pagoda]

Nope, Advanced Company

[green anchor]

Okok, just asking because for some reasons, when wearing a night vision google from LGU, you sometimes survive from fall damage, that's wierd but i noticed that in my last session. But it's okay if you don't have it

[arctic pagoda]

I have maxed out the perk for reducing fall damage which I assume is how I survived

[lunar seal]

do you have any idea of that LLLFixed mod?

as in if its good to use etc

[faint topaz]

I haven't personally tested

[faint topaz]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1214224631108608070

[faint topaz]

Celestria / Maritopia / EchoReach / PsychSanctum / Harloth[WIP] / [Tolian Moons]

[proper fable]

Harloth is out

[flat nexus]

Harloth sneakpeak?

[faint topaz]

???

[distant tulip]

Anyscreen shots of the moons?

[faint topaz]

there are screenshots on every page of the moon

at the thunderstore

[uncut field]

when the harloth real

[quartz mortar]

This looks amazing

[faint topaz]

Update
0.5.0 >>> 0.5.1 Updated Celestria
0.2.0 >>> 0.2.1 Updated PsychSanctum

[arctic pagoda]

idk why but the lighting in the interior of Maritopia is super bright

Similar light in Triskelion for example

EchoReach also

[dark night]

prolly cuz bloom and fog

[faint topaz]

interesting

[uncut field]

harloth is the moon of very good

[uncut field]

||in an older build during an eclipse harloth turns orange, im not sure if this has followed over to the current version||

[timber axle]

Question; Having issues still where the interior layout is different for the players. Example someone may step in and fall through a floor, another will enter a fire exit and get teleported to main entry. things like that.

I saw here someone show how they had been able to see what moons were loaded, and how there were extra moons.

nvm found it

[faint topaz]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Refract/LethalLevelLoaderFixed/try try using this

[faint topaz]

Update
0.4.6 >>> 0.4.7 Updated Maritopia
0.5.1 >>> 0.5.2 Updated Celestria
0.3.0 >>> 0.3.1 Updated EchoReach

[proper fable]

can you make it compatible with celest tint

[proper fable]

https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/wiki/[For-Modders]-How-to-add-support-to-your-moon

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1198736199297286196

[faint topaz]

Yeah, I'll think about it

[proper fable]

it lets you see the planet you are orbiting

but you can change the color for your moon

[faint topaz]

I'll do it in the future

[proper fable]

k

[faint topaz]

@flat nexus any ideas?

[proper fable]

he said modders can do it on there own they just add the pre fab or something into the moon it says it in https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/wiki/[For-Modders]-How-to-add-support-to-your-moon

"To add one of these custom orbiting presets, just add a prefab to your selectableLevel (can be copied) and name it Moon[number]. The mod only reads the name."

but idk

[flat nexus]

Yeah so it currently uses the planetPrefab slot to look at what is assigned and then change it accordingly. I'm gonna change this so maybe wait for me to change it. I want to move to LevelTags, use the tags to assign what planet is seen from orbit

You can see in the wiki that I made in a short time how i assign the prefabs https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/wiki/[For-Modders]-How-to-add-support-to-your-moon

[flat nexus]

Yes so if you have a prefab in there named Moon1 it will be assigned the planet Wasteland in orbit. But I want to move to the tags you can assign in the ExtendedLevel

[twilit jay]

is the spawning on Echoreach fixed?

(peepers where bugged-)

[flat nexus]

Yes those level tags. I'm gonna make a lot more presets, and make them for Leveltags

[faint topaz]

cool

that would be a very useful thing

[flat nexus]

Yeah I think i have made the first mod to use them lol

[faint topaz]

I understand it will fix all the problems between Celest and Celestria?

[flat nexus]

i doubt it lol, that has to come via an update for LLL

[faint topaz]

what about LLLFix?

[flat nexus]

I don't think it is fixed there either.

but i haven't tested it

[faint topaz]

Well, then we wait for the LLL update

[flat nexus]

its been three weeks since last update

damn

[faint topaz]

?!??

[quartz mortar]

I can already smell the acidic air

[sleek crater]

As a mod dependent on LLL, yes, buttt in LLL you can use leveltags to match dungeons to levels dynamically

[uncut field]

it released https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/Harloth/

[faint topaz]

Celestria / Maritopia / EchoReach / PsychSanctum / Harloth / [Tolian Moons]

[quartz mortar]

Woooo!

[gaunt topaz]

heckin poggers

[hasty spruce]

Oooooh

Def trying this later

Also iirc (I did the testing last night but didn’t write it down) there’s two different audio issues on PsychSanctum

Without the audio patch, the audio for PsychSanctum is all muffled, even when you’re just orbiting it.

With the audio patch, the muffle issue is fixed, however you can hear the outside ambience inside.

Also the lights are really weird— if I had to guess it has something to do with the internal fog

[faint topaz]

I'm already working on it😉

[hasty spruce]

Sweet! Happy to hear it.

Oh! Almost forgot

The dropship also drops items at like eye level

[faint topaz]

ah, I'll fix that

[hasty spruce]

Outside of those three issues though, I couldn’t find anything else

[gaunt topaz]

what if...

[hasty spruce]

Definitely the closest to being a high quality moon of the four

Not that they aren’t high quality— I just couldn’t think of the right word

[gaunt topaz]

what if PsychSanctum had the capability of multiple ghost girls spawning? something to demonstrate true insanity among a crew?

tho, ghost girl latches to most paranoid...

[hasty spruce]

I have a few big gripes with Maritopia, but it’s because it’s so close to being a totally amazing moon

With a bit of work it could easily be one of my favourites

Because the atmosphere is captured so well

The actual important area on Maritopia is very small. There’s quite a bit you can explore, but there isn’t anything of note to actually find, and some of the areas leave you stuck without a ladder/jetpack (including a death/softlock spot on the starting platform— when I first played I immediately jumped in to explore lol). Some surrounding buildings (which you need a jetpack to get to) have modeled insides with several floors and different designs, while some buildings you cant even stand on.

And the third building (that’s close to the main two) is kinda buggy

For the record I still enjoyed the moon, just trying to give some constructive criticism on it bc I feel it has so much potential

[zenith jay]

Sadly LLLFixed does not fix this problem, I've been trying to figure out a work around but I'm pretty sure it's caused by how LLL parses the config

[hasty spruce]

Also the lack of outside enemies kind of hurt it

Not that it isn’t dangerous already

Not really sure what you could even add to it tbh

Only things that would fit considering gameplay and lore are like

Baboon Hawks

Thumpers bc they’re sharks

And maybe Snare Fleas

maybe dogs? But the logic of them being there doesn’t really work

And they wouldn’t really have much impact unless you either moved the entrance, made a fire exit somewhere, or gave other reasons to explore

The idea of a thumper chasing you across the support beam is cool though

Oh! Speaking of which— I would recommend making it act as one solid piece instead of being able to fall between the grates

[zenith jay]

What about making the support beam on maritopia a very sturdy version of the vow bridge, so it breaks after so much weight has been across it. Make it high, so it takes a bunch of trips to crumble, and some sort of tell that the durability is decreasing

Make it work similar to the experimentation shutter

[faint topaz]

In version 0.5.0 as I said I will redesign Maritopia

[zenith jay]

Just an idea instead of putting monsters

[zenith jay]

Excited to see what you cook

[gaunt topaz]

just played Harloth. the aesthetic is 😙 👌
absolutely beautiful. only thing i can think of from my first time there is for optimization. frames do be a bit tanking there. still, it's great

aaaaand... as soon as i say that, i died upon leaving the planet

Coroner mod says i "Died Somehow"

[zenith jay]

I was just gonna post this

Whenever I leave Harloth I also die

The console says its running kill player function😂

Moon looks awesome tho!

[hasty spruce]

Ah, I didn't know you announced that!

I'm looking forward to it

The moon has so much potential!

[hasty spruce]

Trying out Harloth

and holy cow my frames

the boards on this don't have collision

[vague ferry]

does anyone know the facility and Haunted mansion weights on Celestria?

[hasty spruce]

uh i think i wrote them down last night

lemme check

[vague ferry]

actually now that Im reading

does it even matter. Celest is gonna eat any configs i set for Celestria

Well I do still need the numbers

[hasty spruce]

Celestria Defaults: Facility 100
Maritopia Defaults: Facility 100, Haunted Mansion 1
EchoReach Defaults: Facility 90, Haunted Mansion 5

[stoic iron]

It's kinda funny that the only two moons that depend on ViewExtension are Celest and Celestria, which happen to be incompatible with each other.

[edgy anvil]

Wait they're incompatible? How so?

[stoic iron]

If they're both installed, then Celestria uses Celest's LLL config values. It has something to do with how LLL matches moon names. The only real way to fix this is if LLL gets fixed in an update, or if one of these moons is renamed so there isn't a perfect substring overlap, like renaming Celest to Celeste. But Celest has been around for longer than Celestria, so if that kind of renaming were in the cards then I imagine it would have already happened.

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it

[zenith jay]

The dying on leaving the moon caused by a bug with Harloth?

[faint topaz]

Tell me in more detail

[zenith jay]

Whenever you leave the moon you just drop dead

The console says running kill player function

It's the only moon that does it for me

[faint topaz]

Yeah, I'll fix that

[zenith jay]

Moon is beautiful, really loving the green 💚

[cinder fjord]

Just wanted to say, EchoReach is such a good moon, me and my friend were having a blast playing on it last night, mixing it with Facility Meltdown gave it such a great atmosphere while we were leaving!

What triggers the radar dishes wave/forcefield effect? Does that happen when you take the apparatus out or was that just a coincidence with our runs?

[zenith jay]

Do you have any plans for the geysers on Harloth? The first thing I did when I saw them was stand on it to see if it hurt me😂

[faint topaz]

yes

[zenith jay]

Sick! This is definitely the shaping up to be one of my favorites

[vague ferry]

First thing I did when I saw green presumably poisonous gas was to immediately huff the green gas to see if it was indeed poisonous.

[zenith jay]

SAME 😂

[vague ferry]

same energy

[hasty spruce]

Saaame

[faint topaz]

Update
0.1.1 >>> 0.1.4 Updated Harloth
0.2.1 >>> 0.2.5 Updated PsychSanctum

[tacit pelican]

just played harloth awesome moon!

perfect that slimes spawn there

I think it just needs like one or two more things on the ground so it dosent feel to empty, maybe trying out a random boudler mechanic similar to vanilla moons?

[faint topaz]

In a future update, I'll add😉

[vague ferry]

Fuck

Anyway

Do only slime spawn on the surface

If so that feels a bit too safe

[faint topaz]

Update
0.5.2 >>> 0.5.3 Updated Celestria
Added LevelTag for compatibility with the Celestial Tint (sfDesat)

[faint topaz]

I'm thinking of adding someone else, but who?

[vague ferry]

Puffers

[faint topaz]

Maybe in the next update I'll add

[vague ferry]

Yea since I have rolling giants that spawn on the outside at a weight of 25, on most vanilla moons they are semi rare but on that moon it’s just rolling giant hell

Maybe add earth worms as well

[zenith jay]

Thoughts on doing some sort of custom enemy? Nothing else really fits the aesthetic of the map besides the slime (inside enemies) imo

I also kinda like the idea of the moon itself being the hazard. Maybe add more things along the lines of the geysers, lots of environmental hazards that get worse the later in the day it gets. Really sell the idea that it's a toxic wasteland

[faint topaz]

Yeah, I like it

Maybe that's how I'll try to maximize the danger of the moon

[zenith jay]

With hazards?

If so it would definitely make it stand out from the rest. I don't know of a single moon like that

Definitely try to scale it with time in some way, wouldn't be too fun to die quickly outside as soon as you land. Especially if it's from something like the air😂

[vague ferry]

That would be a very neat idea

[zenith jay]

The question is, what else besides geysers?

[vague ferry]

Moons that are difficult not because of 12 trillion racist enemies, but actual hazardous conditions

[zenith jay]

When a player dies outside could you turn them into a slime? Like replace the body with it. Like the player melted

[vague ferry]

I wonder if there is a way for Tolian to make the gas apply the hallucination distortion effect that TZP does to a player

[zenith jay]

That could be sick for large clouds of gas or something

The whole outside could get a little nauseating 🤢

[vague ferry]

That’s the point

[faint topaz]

what do you think of the meteor shower idea?

ahah

[gaunt topaz]

oh lord

[zenith jay]

The one that @flat nexus was talking about?

[faint topaz]

I don't know, but it sounds fun

[zenith jay]

Explain the one you're thinking of?

[faint topaz]

while I gather ideas on how to make it more complicated

[flat nexus]

I was talking about seeing meteors in space, but it would be really cool if you had them on the surface and you could also see them smash into the planet from orbit

[faint topaz]

good idea

[zenith jay]

Oh I remember now, it was the screenshot @sleek crater posted. Meteor shower was a weather on the terminal

What was the meteor shower idea you had?

[vague ferry]

@faint topaz what do u think about this idea

[zenith jay]

This is what I'm talking about https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193461151636398080/1213748972271833088/image.png?ex=65f69ad1&is=65e425d1&hm=ced3c87dc999e5e03f4a44a14e14aeef8359b5b2c268bc532883c9d8eeccfc10&

[faint topaz]

sounds interesting

[zenith jay]

The planet is so toxic and corrosive it literally melts the player into slime, makes sense to me

[faint topaz]

Well, it could be done with the weather (rain toxic)

[zenith jay]

Acid rain seems like a better pick

Actual weather

But that would be sick

[faint topaz]

It's not hard to make it, but turning it into slime is a challenge....

[zenith jay]

Or could use it with some other environmental hazard that kills you

[zenith jay]

Doesn't have to be fully animated. Just despawn the body and spawn a slime where it was. Animation can be done at a future point if you want

[faint topaz]

I'll think about it

[zenith jay]

With acid rain you could just make the player's camera start slowly sinking when they die. Giving the illusion of melting. If messing with the camera is possible

[edgy anvil]

I wonder if that could be done with Lethal Toolbox once it releases, it seems like it'll have a good number of triggers and functions, so I wouldn't be shocked if one of them is "player dies" and "spawn enemy"

[faint topaz]

Yeah, I'm waiting Lethal Toolbox

[zenith jay]

None of these suggestions are like me asking them to be put in, just ideas. Kinda spit balling here😅

I do really like the idea of the moon itself being the threat tho. It's very different from other moons

[faint topaz]

I like it too

[zenith jay]

I also think it fits the atmosphere

No pun intended

[vague ferry]

Well just a spitball idea here

Since it is a gas planet, most gases, specifically speaking methane, is flammable, maybe at random gas clouds can explode on the surface

[faint topaz]

good idea

[zenith jay]

To build off that, maybe more than one type of geyser. Each one having different gasses with different properties: explosive, hallucinogenic, damaging, ect

[flat nexus]

that is very cool actually i know there is a drunken effect in the game files

[zenith jay]

Each time you go through the map you'd have to take a different route due to the geysers being randomized and wanting to avoid certain gasses

[zenith jay]

Is it actually drunken or is it just the TZP effect?

[zenith jay]

That looks sick as hell!

[faint topaz]

wow

[zenith jay]

Is that for weather or just an effect outside?

Either way, beautiful

[vague ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-in-flames-umineko-writing-in-flames-flames-gif-20892510

[flat nexus]

no i thought if tolian wanted to add a meteor shower. I could include the option as a Tag in Celestial Tint

[vague ferry]

We’re about to make the deadliest most unfair planet known to god

[zenith jay]

It would be perfect for that meteor shower weather that @sleek crater posted a teaser of

[flat nexus]

Here is the filter more obvious

[zenith jay]

Yeah I think that's the tzp effect

[flat nexus]

yeah probably now that i see it, but its easy to customize. (tolian just search for drunk, its a volume)

[zenith jay]

tho tzp could be one of the gasses on the surface, run through it and you get a speed boost and extra stamina

1 good thing out of many bad ones lol

[faint topaz]

Looks cool

[vague ferry]

Are you having it be a filter when on the planet or an effect on being on the surface

[zenith jay]

I really don't think it should be 24/7 on the surface. would be a large turn off for a lot of people

[flat nexus]

you can make it a local volume, so maybe a cave gasses you up or near a pipe

[zenith jay]

This is what I was thinking

Would pair perfectly with the geysers around the map

leaking pipes is a good idea too

[vague ferry]

Yea

[faint topaz]

Yeah, that's definitely worth adding

[zenith jay]

Are the geyser positions random? Like the pumpkins on vanilla maps

[faint topaz]

tests tests tests

We have to test it

[flat nexus]

that is a very good idea, just make one of the geysers a prefab

[zenith jay]

I am a huge fan of rogue likes, and with that comes variability. It being different everytime you land and possibly forcing you to a fire exit would be peak imo

being forced to take an unusual route to main would even be amazing. Most of the time you play you always take the shortest path to whatever entrance you go to. A map that changes that behavior would be awesome

routing through a map isn't even really a thing in this game atm

once you know a map you know it

[zenith jay]

Possible idea along the same vein as the geysers. You could add duct vents around the map venting gasses that could be controlled open or closed with the ship. If you want to add ship functionality to the map

[lunar seal]

Hi @faint topaz I know its minor, but on Harloth you get the audioreverb when landing and departing moon

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it in the future

[lunar seal]

Also is it possible we can get a map design of your moons like where the fire exits are or would that be to spoily? I just like to know where things are to navigate to and do further testing XD

[faint topaz]

I'll make you a map

[faint topaz]

It'll be a temporary map for now😅

[lunar seal]

awesome ty!, whenever you have time if can for the other moons, i closed the post awhile ago where u showed other images but cant find the thread, prob was deleted

[faint topaz]

Celestria

Maritopia doesn't need a map

I'll do EchoReach and PsychSanctum later

[lunar seal]

mari doesnt have fire exit right? i tried walking around on stairs but couldnt find anything

so wasnt sure

[faint topaz]

There's a fire exit, but I'll make a map when the redesign is done in version 0.5

[lunar seal]

AudioReverb

• Harloth
• EchoReach

What i found so far

[faint topaz]

Thanks, I'll try to straighten it out in the future

[hasty spruce]

Wait there’s a fire exit on Maritopia??

[elder crypt]

Yes

[elder crypt]

Its beind the main entrance you find like another building that has a broken part to the side which has stairs which you go down till you see the fire exit

[hasty spruce]

I must’ve just totally missed the fire exit

[dark night]

how dare you redesign my perfect moon

i'd place fire exits everywhere because of how much i like it

[faint topaz]

I want to enlarge the play area

[dark night]

i want lower floors to have a use

[lunar seal]

is r2mm just like sometimes slow with lethal company?

i use it for Round and Valheim and I never get small slowness sometimes when trying click a button etc just not sure if me XD

[dark night]

mod managers hate lethal company and r2mm has still some stutter but it's clearly better than before

[lunar seal]

yea stutter is word im looking for

[dark night]

but yeah it's normal

[lunar seal]

only noticed with this game so i just wasnt sure if i messed something up lol since never seen it before

but good to know

[dark night]

try using version 3.1.46 and you're gonna hate it

[lunar seal]

damn you cant use nitro emojis in threads =[

sad

[lunar seal]

I was trying figure out where the hell entrance was based on the ship icon and the way you had it was right when you exit, but its actually in front of the ship

i was like where the fk is this entrance XD

[stoic iron]

r2modman randomly uses spikes of CPU that slow my whole system down, including Lethal Company if it's running, so I don't let it stay running. You can close r2modman after you launch the game, but the better option if you only ever play one profile is to go to Settings → Debugging → Set launch parameters and the copy the "Modded" launch string and paste it into Steam's launch properties for Lethal Company so you can skip opening r2modman entirely. Be careful though because if you ever launch from r2modman without removing that string from the Steam launch properties then it will fuse both launch strings together and you're gonna have a bad time.

[lunar seal]

oh thanks for that, i always close r2mm whenever i launch the game so i think ill just continue doing that

just not sure why only lethal company does this, hope it gets optimized XD

[stoic iron]

I don't think it's a Lethal Company problem. It's an r2modman problem. I downloaded r2modman from the package/ebkr/r2modman/ URL on Thunderstore, which has nothing to do with Lethal Company, and it does the CPU spikes even if Lethal Company isn't running.

[lunar seal]

interesting, i never get the stutter when i use it for valheim or rounds as i mentioned, its only lethal company i notice it for

maybe bc of the 22k mods on thunderstore compared to 4k ish for valheim lol

[stoic iron]

r2modman runs with normal priority, as does Lethal Company. An interesting possibility is that Rounds (whatever that is) and Valheim set their process priority to high, in which case they can ignore whatever tantruming r2modman is doing in the background.

[faint topaz]

Celestria / Maritopia / EchoReach / PsychSanctum / Harloth / TeraSpace[WIP] [Tolian Moons]

[zenith jay]

TeraSpace? 👀

[hasty spruce]

Good lord Tolian, you’re pumping these out like nobody’s business

[faint topaz]

interior mod

[zenith jay]

Ah the interior for space station? Excited to see what you've been cooking 😄

[hasty spruce]

Ohhhhhhhhhh

Sweet

[faint topaz]

Update
0.3.1 >>> 0.3.2 Updated EchoReach

[edgy anvil]

yoooo tolian interiors?

[vague ferry]

Does anyone know the weights of Harloth?

@faint topaz could u help me rq

[vague ferry]

facility 50?

mansion 5

[faint topaz]

yes

[vague ferry]

oh thank you

sorry for bothering u dawg

[faint topaz]

np

[vague ferry]

It is done.

[faint topaz]

cool

[proper fable]

What is that

[vague ferry]

My moon balance configs

For my modpack Im making

[proper fable]

Could you send me your configs for that I really need new ones

[vague ferry]

Be a pleasure

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1prrFkH3J4WONrRQv2MfWdP3K2rT6cYqe3fLDjqQ3kg4/edit#gid=1992628571

configs are generated at the bottom

[proper fable]

I don’t see it

[vague ferry]

These?

[proper fable]

Wait nvm I see it

[vague ferry]

👍

[faint topaz]

TeraSpace[WIP]

[dark night]

interior????

if not an interior i'm having trouble finding where you'd land

[edgy anvil]

Yup it's an interior, space station themed

[dark night]

nicee

among us map interior 👀

[elder crypt]

is it supposed to be terra (earth in latin)?

[faint topaz]

If it was Terra, yes

[faint topaz]

yes

[dark night]

dayum

now unix storage system interior sneakpeak dropped

[faint topaz]

what do you mean?

[dark night]

teraspace is the name of a unix storage system

i too want 100tb storage to store more mods

[faint topaz]

sounds great

ahah

[tacit pelican]

#1206278214205575208 message
I got a few "toxic" enemies from this LC creature concept series.

[faint topaz]

Should I move the DropShip closer?

On the moon Celestria

[zenith jay]

Maybe a little?

[vague ferry]

oh so when I land and its foggy I dont have to wander around like a lost ant to find it?

id love that

[faint topaz]

• v 1.4.0 Update
  • 0.4.7 >>> 0.4.8 Updated Maritopia
  • 0.3.2 >>> 0.3.4 Updated EchoReach
  • 0.1.4 >>> 0.1.6 Updated Harloth
  • 0.2.5 >>> 0.2.6 Updated PsychSanctum
  • 0.5.3 >>> 0.5.4 Updated Celestria

[lunar seal]

For EchoReach is the atmoshphere supposed to be in the facility?

[faint topaz]

Can I get a screenshot?

[lunar seal]

give me a sec to go back lol

[faint topaz]

What version of EchoReach do you have?

[lunar seal]

latest

[faint topaz]

That's interesting

[gaunt topaz]

given how it's an old building, i can see outside dust getting in and clouding up the place

[zenith jay]

It honestly doesn't look terrible, I kinda like it ngl

[lunar seal]

oh im just asking is all

[zenith jay]

Would look better if the facility had rust everywhere imo

[zenith jay]

I'm pretty sure it's a bug. He fixed it a patch or so ago

Might be back

[lunar seal]

believe i saw something similar on new one as well

not as clear inside

harloth *

[faint topaz]

The effect was bigger in the previous version. Now I've reduced it, so yes

[gaunt topaz]

i say keep it where it's at. perfectly captures the atmosphere for the inside

[faint topaz]

???

[hasty spruce]

Woah that’s cool

[gaunt topaz]

temple? 😮

[quartz mortar]

Dude never stops cooking

[cinder fjord]

rust and actual dust/sand piles around imo

[zenith jay]

YES, dust/sand piles is a good call

[cinder fjord]

especially if you can get sand particles falling from the ceiling 👀

[faint topaz]

snowy moon???

[quartz mortar]

That looks sick

[dark night]

holy

[faint topaz]

What's the problem?

[quartz mortar]

I need this

[dark night]

the problem is we dont have the moon

[quartz mortar]

^^^

[dark night]

cuz it looks 🔥

[vague ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/wes-fall-to-knees-scream-gif-27602552

[dark night]

so 🔥 that it's melting the snow

[vague ferry]

I cant cope

Im gonna have like 200 moons

[dark night]

lmfao

[faint topaz]

||on Friday||

[vague ferry]

and Im gonna have to interior configure and balance them ALLLL

[dark night]

you already got 150 from wesley's

[vague ferry]

AAAAAAAAAA

https://tenor.com/view/staring-black-man-staring-black-men-staring-black-men-men-staring-gif-25096788

Tolian,

Please

Once you release those moons

Make a mod with all of them bundled in there

[faint topaz]

okay

[dark night]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/Tolian_Moons/

[vague ferry]

wait really

thank y-

NO

[faint topaz]

would you like to see the lava moon?

[dark night]

i would like to see everything as moon

[vague ferry]

I meant bundled like Wesley's

[dark night]

a

[vague ferry]

People are gonna call me insane when they see my modpack

[dark night]

nah u good

[vague ferry]

but I have to reasonably explain to them half of it are Cosmetics / Suits, and Moons, and then some small mods that make it look massive

[dark night]

i barely have any moons and cosmetics

[vague ferry]

Im making an all around pack

Giving everyone a little meal at the table

[dark night]

im making more serious pack

no troll mods

[vague ferry]

I got no troll mods

[dark night]

tho heavy troll potential cuz configs

[vague ferry]

Everything serves a purpose

Including the drip

[dark night]

yes

IsThisTheWayICame is essential

oh i forgot to remove 2 mods

inpututils update??

[vague ferry]

evil

evil

[dark night]

i don't use it for tp on mimics tho

only low chance to get tp'd on another real fire exit

(it should be, if not then uhh ez)

[vague ferry]

lmao

[elder crypt]

I have 25 more than you and i ony have like 5 cosmetic and 4 suits mods 😭

[vague ferry]

are you ok?

is the company not lethal enough for you yet

[elder crypt]

I mean i did add like 11 new creatures

26 new moons

Blinking and other features and like 60 or 70 new scrap

[faint topaz]

Tolian's Moons

[flat wadi]

wth are u cooking rn 👀

[faint topaz]

The release of two new moons
Nyx - https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/Nyx/
Zenit - https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/Zenit/

[flat wadi]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[zenith jay]

Finally a moon that is perfect for Scoopy's dungeon interior

[ancient crane]

which one is it

cant get on rn

[zenith jay]

Nyx

Gonna test out Zenit when it loads on the thunderstore client, not sure of what interiors to use on that moon

@faint topaz Got any pictures of the entrances for Zenit to get an idea of what interiors go with it? It sounds like its cave based, would go good with the mineshaft interior if it was out

The one picture of Nyx is more than enough to get the vibe

[faint topaz]

bunker

[zenith jay]

Excited to check them out once thunderstore updates 😛

[elder crypt]

DAWG CHILL

[elder crypt]

I HAVE TOO MANY MOONS AND YOUR MOONS ARE TOO GOOD TO PASS 😭

[zenith jay]

They're finally up! 😄

[faint topaz]

I'd upload you a screenshot, but the Discord servers are a little laggy right now

[zenith jay]

I'm just booting into the game now with both mods installed. Gonna roam around and check them out

The new moons don't use Celestial Tint options btw. they're the default

might have found a lighting issue

Picture of main for anyone else who wants it

[zenith jay]

So I assume all the purple color going on in my game is not intentional?

[faint topaz]

It's probably just the reflection is a little broken

I'll see what it could be

[zenith jay]

There's also half of a rock to the right if you walk straight from the ship doors

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it in the next patch

[zenith jay]

Nyx looks fucking awesome!

You do run into something when the ship takes off lol

Are these light sources suppose to be visible? I also saw one in the large cave on Zenit

[faint topaz]

yes

[zenith jay]

They just look a little odd as a orb floating there lol

I'm surprised there's no entrance in the dinning room. It's so beautiful, but there's no reason to regularly come over here

Or is that planned? I couldn't find a 2nd entrance anywhere

Or am I blind?

[faint topaz]

I'm still figuring out where to put it

[zenith jay]

That dining room is stunning but I honestly don't know where in the room is a good spot

How cruel are the people that once inhabited the castle? Could put a oubliette in the room somewhere as an entrance

or just a trapdoor, but I think a oubliette fits the aesthetic more

[faint topaz]

I will think about it

[zenith jay]

I just don't know where a door on the wall would fit well. maybe redesign the wall to the right of the fireplace a little so it fits better?

I don't see floor entrances used on a lot of maps

Aquatis is the only one I can think of off the top of my head

[vague ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/mort-crying-scared-gif-21887116

I dont wanna open my spreadsheet anymore doc

[zenith jay]

You and me both brother, I just redesigned mine for all the upcoming interiors and added an easy way to paste into the config

[faint topaz]

It's not over yet

[faint topaz]

ahah

[vague ferry]

can I get that bundle

[zenith jay]

How's the spacestation coming along? You gonna try to make more interiors?

[faint topaz]

I'm working on an icon and a description right now

[vague ferry]

thank u king

https://tenor.com/view/dog-staring-stare-looking-staring-gif-24010129

now i just gotta

play the moons

open the spreadsheet

and use the cranium

[faint topaz]

of course

[zenith jay]

defaults for weights on nyx are 20 and 20, and on zenit are 40 for facility and 20 for mansion

[vague ferry]

OH THANK YOU

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-hazbin-hotel-sir-pentious-gif-3836736942992980284

[zenith jay]

I just did that lol

[vague ferry]

what are the prices for the moons

[zenith jay]

Taking any requests? I got a good one that would work great with Zenit and the Outpost 31 map

[zenith jay]

they are on the thunderstore page, zenit is 520 I think? and Nyx is 0

[vague ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/down-bad-man-gif-24757717

FREE

MOON?

I have like

36 moons

[faint topaz]

multiple solar systems

[vague ferry]

Between you

Wesley

Knight

and Desat

Im gonna literally have an entire universe expansion

[faint topaz]

sounds like fun

[vague ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[brazen pine]

"sick" in english is slang for cool

sometimes

[faint topaz]

That was funny

[brazen pine]

:P

[flat wadi]

this floor kinda weird sometimes u need to jump over it

its right in front of nyx main entrance

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it soon

[vague ferry]

Yknow...

This may not be that bad

Tolian I thank you

I have a really strong feeling I know what interior this moon is going to have

help im stuck in a wall

[faint topaz]

joker's trap

[vague ferry]

HELP ME BATMAN

ahem

I know us jetpack wizards are a small minority

But it would be nice if we were not eaten alive

[arctic pagoda]

It was mentioned that Lethal Quantities lets you set the price to be different depending on the moon you are on. I was thinking about setting up actual moon systems where traveling between moons in the same system is free, but changing between systems costs money

[faint topaz]

Oh, that sounds cool

[vague ferry]

I dont think Im supposed to see this or be here

[flat wadi]

also a small portion of the ship got hit when landing/going back to orbit and i got kicked out from the ship 😂
also nyx

[zenith jay]

Would love if there was a mod that just did this, let you set custom groupings for solar systems

[vague ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma-stare-stare-gif-27260036

nothing has collision

[faint topaz]

the map was obviously not designed for jetpacks

ahah

[vague ferry]

Lmao

I know I am the minority

Who wields the power of the jetpack

The world was clearly not made for my kind

I can see you @faint topaz

[faint topaz]

Well, I created the celestria moon

there's a place to fly to

xd

[vague ferry]

omg

i just tried to LEAVE

I GOT SNARED

[zenith jay]

Yeah you get smacked inside the ship😂

[faint topaz]

I'll make a hotfix

[vague ferry]

The jetpack committee will hear of this

[arctic pagoda]

Would be cool, maybe I'll make that 😛

[vague ferry]

The what is this?
'

[flat wadi]

the glare on zenit might be too much sometimes
like half your screen would just be the sunlight 😭

i know your not supposed to look at the sun but damn, realism

[vague ferry]

I think the glare is MOVING for me

[faint topaz]

my ward

[vague ferry]

ah how cute

[flat wadi]

ward

[arctic pagoda]

I wonder how hard this would be actually, I haven't taken a look at how moon prices are handled. Maybe I'll have to see how Lethal Quantities does it. I wonder if this would be a good first mod for me lol. Would be cool to have a default system setup with a support for a bunch of modded moons.

[faint topaz]

Update
0.1.0 >>> 0.1.1 Nyx

[zenith jay]

If you make it hmu, pricing like that sounds perfect once you get so many moons

[arctic pagoda]

Lethal Quantities is MIT so I should be good using that code as a reference, with credit of course 🙂

Might not be soon though because I'm out of town for the next week essentially.

[lunar seal]

@faint topaz Im getting some major lag starting ship and when back in orbit when departing from Zenit moon

it last like 5s or something

was eclipsed on moon, ill try going down again and up see if still happens

happens on the "Loading World" part

[faint topaz]

I'll optimize the moon in the future

[wintry sapphire]

@faint topaz https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/21b2s8pWUdBADW/d1337LYy5v9c?invite=cr-MSxZeHcsMjE3NTIwOTU1LA https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/21b5nTK0lohqcD/d13373OxHXXd?invite=cr-MSw3alEsMjE3NTIwOTU1LA

[faint topaz]

Oh, thanks. I'll fix that

[wintry sapphire]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/21b8ZJp0y7XoB1/d1337hzJ3Bzi?invite=cr-MSx1dUEsMjE3NTIwOTU1LA

you can also see part of the outside of the map 9 seconds in behind the upside down arch thing

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/21baYUJDdR0owp/d1337z57lyXC?invite=cr-MSx2TXosMjE3NTIwOTU1LA

(you can just jump off the second the ship door opens to get out the map

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/21beertusl5Dqh/d1337oMBet24?invite=cr-MSxqcGcsMjE3NTIwOTU1LA

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/21bgbnUecpZDwR/d1337OMlt8yc?invite=cr-MSxxckssMjE3NTIwOTU1LA

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/21bm2OUFSPc3JL/d1337kdv308k?invite=cr-MSxwS24sMjE3NTIwOTU1LA

honestly at this point you get the gist

the problem's mainly with the wall collision/empty spaces that lead outside the map

i'd suggest that the map should actually be a bit bigger

[faint topaz]

thanks for the bug report I will fix it soon

[wintry sapphire]

that'll probably fix some stuff like people getting out the map, the generally just limited space on the moon, and lack of fire exits

[faint topaz]

I'll think about it

[sleek crater]

mans dropped sens fortress lookin'

[deft obsidian]

I know basically nothing about lethal company moon modding aside from that its a terrain + prefabs for placed objects

How hard would it be to have the collision be created from a simplified version of the models for the prefabs?

like in an automated way with a tool, so models would generally get set collision

[sleek crater]

those exist

but are usually paid

its like, not a lethal company exclusive thing ofc

[deft obsidian]

right, makes sense. ty

[hasty spruce]

I take it you aren't supposed to be able to get here?

[worn rain]

Was wondering if this will have a all in one mod like Wesley moons and Rosie’s moons being all compact

[gaunt topaz]

it sure would save on download count.

[vague ferry]

he's workin on it

[pseudo oyster]

some thoughts about zenit:

• wayyyyyyy too much post-processing. most of the time i can barely see in front of me because of how bright it is. the motion blur is also disorienting, even moreso because i play in VR
• the map is bigger than it needs to be. i think it would be cool if it started in the middle of a ravine, sort of like atlas abyss and the whole map was navigating through caves. i do like that aspect of the current map, but it's very empty as is

[lunar seal]

@faint topaz or anyone familiar with LLL, if I want interiors etc be on any moon or modded, what exactly do i put in this section, idk prefabs for vanilla moons or just use w.e name is etc as some of the names confuse me
Dungeon Injection Settings - Manual Level Names List = Titan:300,vowLevel:40,220. Assurance: 41, Egypt

[sleek crater]

Whatevers on the terminal is fine

[lunar seal]

or is it this one Dungeon Injection Settings - Manual Mod Names List = Lethal Company:300, MoreMoonsMod: 100 trying understand the config its just a bit confusing to me lol

[tacit pelican]

@faint topaz do you plan on turning the mod pack into a single mod with all of the moons? Some of the other big moon modders such as wesley and Rosie have already done this

[tacit pelican]

also do you plan to add compatibility with sfdesats mod celestial tint?

[faint topaz]

Yeah, I'm making a new icon for the modpack right now

[faint topaz]

I'll fix it in the future😉

Update
0.1.1 >>> 0.1.3 Updated Nyx

[faint topaz]

There's only one moon(Celestria) holding the celestia tint right now

but I'm going to add compatibility to all of them

[faint topaz]

Update
0.3.4 >>> 0.3.6 Updated EchoReach
0.2.5 >>> 0.3.0 Updated PsychSanctum

[gaunt topaz]

one tiny bit of feedback if you dont mind.

with the recent clipping discoveries, i feel a few of these moons need just a little more time in the oven. do you have any beta testers for these?

clipping aside, these maps look no short of stunning. dont stop makin new rocks to explore ^^

hope that's at least constructive of me to put in.

[faint topaz]

Thank you for your feedback, with each patch I try to fix the problems of each moon and add what they are missing😉

[gaunt topaz]

your call, my dude. they end up less clippy with time anyway ^^

[faint topaz]

Update
0.4.8 >>> 0.4.9 Updated Maritopia

[half sinew]

I have to say your moons are very pretty, their visual styles are quite impressive looking and I quite like the feel of your more moon-like moons (echo-reach, celestria, zenit) as I think they fit the game pretty well thematically

amazing work man

[faint topaz]

thanks

[faint topaz]

Update
0.5.6 >>> 0.5.7 Updated Celestria
0.3.6 >>> 0.3.7 Updated EchoReach

[faint topaz]

Update modpack

All moons are now included in a single package
TolianMoons - https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/Tolian_Moons/

[wanton elbow]

Let's gooo

[gaunt topaz]

you beautiful son of a bitch. you ascend to the ranks of Wes and Rosie in single package glory. thank you 😭

Starlancer, GM, and EM are also there, but they started as single packages

[hasty spruce]

Hey so the icon for zenit says zenith

[faint topaz]

Yeah, I know, I'll fix it in the next patch🤭

[zealous kettle]

hello idk if you know this aldy but I think someone stole your moon(nyx) or I just misinterpret it
not sure if im allowed to send link here here's the name: mantif v1.0.0

[deft obsidian]

You should be allowed to post the link

You can also post it in #thunderstore-moderation

[edgy anvil]

Wanted to let you know that it was NOT stolen, it seems they just copied the ReadMe file for Nyx, and they forgot to replace the screenshot of Nyx with one of their own. I've been to the moon it's a completely unique one and is quite fun

I wish the developer had a page in this server so I could report that haha cause yeah I was confused at first too

[faint topaz]

Thank you for the information

[faint topaz]

Update
0.1.0 >>> 0.1.2 Updated Zenit

[dark night]

you can see behind the door on nyx

i think lights are too bright on maritopia cuz of fog

also the ground sounds like plastic on nyx

this rock right outside the ship has brocken collisions

and uhhh

i escaped

[faint topaz]

thanks for the bug report I will fix it soon

[dark night]

currently trying the latest moons cuz i never did

just escaped zenit too

[zenith jay]

I've been meaning to ask, whats the light jellyfish looking thing on Zenit? Going to be a monster of some sort? Or is is some weird lighting error?

[pseudo oyster]

idk i like this personally

gives a different vibe from other moons

[faint topaz]

my ward

[zenith jay]

Yes

[faint topaz]

Update
0.1.3 >>> 0.1.4 Updated Nux
0.1.2 >>> 0.1.5 Updated Zenit
0.1.6 >>> 0.1.8 Updated Harloth

[elder crypt]

tolian i love celestria me and my friend always have the weirdest expriences its almost like u added hallucinations or something. one time he said he saw me walk into a hallway then he follow that version of me and it was gone then i come from behind him. second rn i was walking up the mountain going back to ship so we can leave and he told me he sees a second version of me but i couldn't see the other version and i was looking around and he kept saying there was another me and i said ill jump but he said both of them didn't jump so he ran as fast as he can to the ship and i followed him and i was about to pull the lever when i heard a 3rd dudes footsteps and i saw it was a mimic of me and i pulled the lever and we left celestria

[proper fable]

Do you know how to get that text when you land because it won’t appear for me

[dark night]

that's supposed to be vanilla

i only have tolian moons, debug mods, performance mods and fps counter on this pack

[proper fable]

But when you use his mods it shows it

[faint topaz]

information about the moon?

[proper fable]

When you land and step out of the ship

For some reason it won’t appear for me in my modpack

[faint topaz]

that's interesting🧐

[proper fable]

On none of my moons

[faint topaz]

I'm glad you like it

[elder crypt]

elads disables it pretty sure

[faint topaz]

can I see

[elder crypt]

if u use elads that why

[faint topaz]

extended level

[proper fable]

Can you enable it on elads

[zenith jay]

That would explain why I don't see those :/ that kinda sucks

[elder crypt]

idk i personally dont use it i just heard that

[warped cobalt]

quick question about tolian's moons, is there a seperated configs for them?

[edgy anvil]

Went to celestria for the first time in a while - the exterior ambience seems to be much louder inside than it is outside somehow. I thought I remembered that being gone last time I went here though so it's strange

I will say I had the mod individually instead of the pack this time

[faint topaz]

Oh, yeah, I've been notified of that error

I'll fix it soon

[edgy anvil]

Is it something that only recently popped up or does it just not always happen, I just thought it was weird that last time I played it didn't

I figured you probably knew

[faint topaz]

You can create a config

there are modpacks where all configurations are prescribed

There's no config in my package😔

[warped cobalt]

zamn 😔 examples?

would be great if this is written in description as well

[faint topaz]

I must have done something wrong. I'm sorry

[edgy anvil]

No worries, I was just uncertain is all, it's not like it was a major issue

[lone quail]

It is a bug with elads.
Elad does not play LethalCompany lately and does not update the mod.
It will not be fixed anytime soon sadly.

https://github.com/EladNLG/EladsHUD/issues/2

However, to get a more vanilla like feeling and get back the text you can use these 3 mods.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/letmusicring/ShyHUD/
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ButteryStancakes/AccurateStaminaDisplay/
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/matsuura/HealthMetrics/

Looking now it there is one that shows the charge and time in the same way.

[dark night]

healthmetrics is included in GeneralImprovements

[faint topaz]

???

[gaunt topaz]

👀👀👀👀👀👀

[digital delta]

Damn bro the details..

[gaunt topaz]

this interior... we need a Xenomorph mod.

[tame sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/enojado-angry-alien-kill-me-killer-gif-17851069

Alien vibes

[deft obsidian]

What happens if an individual moon (say Celestria) were installed alongside the full Tolian Moons mod?

For example, say a core modpack depended on a few moons, while another modpack depended on both that core + Tolian Moons. This extra modpack would both install the core few moons and the full Tolian one. would this cause issues?

[faint topaz]

I'll check it out today

[tacit pelican]

Interior?!

Also do you plan to give nyx a fire exit? I noticed there's a super cool dining hall hidden on one side of the castle thing, that would be a great spot.

[tacit pelican]

I just saw sfdesats post damn this will be the most detailed interior yet!

[faint topaz]

need to widen the area a bit, firexit will be pretty close to the ship

[mint bough]

Yesterday while my friend and I were on EchoReach, I noticed that Peepers from https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1203593748421017620 tend to get stuck and stay completely still next to the ship unless you get close enough and then they go toward you

there's only one in the screenshot, but before we approached them there were like 4 just sitting there

[silent osprey]

Hey Tolian, I heard you have volumes on some of your moons that essentially have post processing effects, is that accurate?

[faint topaz]

Interesting, but I'll update NavMesh

[faint topaz]

yes

You can try the Zenit moon

[silent osprey]

Are they just placed in the level? I've gotten placed volumes working, but I've had issues with volumes that are components on prefabs for some reason, so I thought I'd ask you for any insight.

Also I totally plan to play through your moons, they look so good but I just haven't had time to actually play the game lately 😔

[faint topaz]

Depends on what you need

[silent osprey]

Essentially I have prefabs of models that I wish to place a volume on so that in a small radius around them (by having the volumes set to local and using a radius of about 10) they give off a visual effect. This works fine if I place the volume separately, but when I add a volume to the prefab as a component, it does not seem to function regardless of how much I increase the effect radius. I'd prefer using the prefab component method because I have dozens of these models to add volumes to, but if there's no fix I'll just place them manually in the world.

[faint topaz]

only like this

[silent osprey]

Gotcha so you used objects instead of components. I'll just do it manually then as painful as it is. Thanks for the help anyways, and again, great looking maps

[faint topaz]

thx

[silent osprey]

Mess with the priority? I'll try that and see if it works

[faint topaz]

must be greater than the global priority

[silent osprey]

I've gotten them working and in a good state, just trying to get some shortcuts essentially. Maybe the prefabs are messing with priority though so that could fix it. Thanks

[faint topaz]

@deft obsidian Yes, it will work. The main thing is to register them in LLL cfg in advance

[faint topaz]

Update
- 0.5.5 >>> 0.5.6 Updated Celestria

[final socket]

vaguely remember seeing that disabling the Tolian Moons pack mod helped someone with the moonnameScene build error, just figured i'd add to that counter and say disabling the pack mod completely fixed that issue for me, even w/ the sfDesat moons doing the same thing, not sure if it helps but i figure might help point to where the prob might be, feel free to ignore if a fix is already in the works lol

[lavish timber]

Hello, @final socket, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[faint topaz]

What version of modpack was it on?

[final socket]

current, most recent update
just updated it to test the issue was still there, then on a debug profile i disabled it and i could re-land on the moons i previously had issues with

[faint topaz]

I will try to correct the error soon

[final socket]

🫡 preciate it! love your moons, keep up the great work!

[faint topaz]

thanks

[vague ferry]

@faint topaz

Whats uh

whats going on here?

[faint topaz]

Hygrodere

[vague ferry]

is the power level supposed to be 20?

[faint topaz]

I'm solving that problem in the next patch 😂

[faint topaz]

In theory, instead of 20, it should be 1-2

[vague ferry]

ok for now ill manually fix it\

[vague ferry]

also whats the differences between normal puffers and slimes and harloth puffers and slimes

[gaunt topaz]

tried Mantif today (since developer fixed the loadup crash). honestly, not bad. however, the alarm outside needs its radius reduced, and i saw a fire exit very much out of line with the bridge it opens out to

also a V-Type Engine spawned outside, but i just see that as a freebie

[mint bough]

@faint topaz Maritopia's interior lights are super bright and foggy looking, it can be really hard to see through sometimes

[faint topaz]

Nothing. It's done to keep the game from crashing

[elder crypt]

@faint topaz https://www.buymeacoffee.com/toliann

i mean to look at ur coffee page btw @faint topaz

[dark night]

nice coffee amount

[faint topaz]

Thank you for your support😉

[distant grotto]

When I installed your moon pack it broke EGypt, and sfdeast's moons from loading in. LLL would not register aquatis,celest, Orion, and mantif into it's config. And for EGypt I kept getting the moonnamescene error, I deleted the tolian moon pack, and the sfdeast moon pack. Don't know if I should also delete the wesley moon pack? But Deleting those 2 didn't fix the issue. LLL still doesnt register any new moons I add (Mantif, and sfdeast moons) and EGypt is the only moon that won't load that I know of right now. It could be other new moons I added (epstein island, Mantif, or Old ruins serhan) but it was your moon pack that caused It I believe.

[faint topaz]

The problem is not related to my modpack but with the LLL registrar. Try downloading LethalLevelFixed

1. Start the game first with LLL.
2. Exit the game, disable LLL, and enable LLLFIXED.
3. After that, the problem should disappear.

[ancient crane]

epstein island?

[distant grotto]

Dw about it

🤫

[distant grotto]

Also thanks, ill try it when I get on pc

[faint topaz]

• Update
  • 0.3.0 >>> 0.3.1 Updated PsychSanctum
  • 0.1.8 >>> 0.1.9 Updated Harloth
  • 0.1.5 >>> 0.1.6 Updated Zenit

[faint topaz]

????

[gaunt topaz]

b

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Budapest 2: The Budapestening

dont get me wrong, im still looking forward. more moony goodness

[wanton elbow]

Thats so cool

[wanton elbow]

One question i love all your Moons but can you change the tree model on psych sanctum?

[wanton elbow]

Thats fire

[faint topaz]

@final socket

[wanton elbow]

When are you gonna update It?

[final socket]

preciate the ping, but have had LLL fix for a while
disabling the pack mod works still just the same atm!
might try a debug profile where i try that out fresh and see if it makes a difference later tonight tho

[faint topaz]

I need time for tests and stuff

[wanton elbow]

Ok no problem

[hasty spruce]

YO THIS MF USING THE EPSTEIN MOON

[distant grotto]

not anymore it BROKE

no more experiencing it for myself

😭

[hasty spruce]

YO THIS MF AIN’T USING THE EPSTEIN MOON

[gaunt topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/spacecore-space-portal-core-gif-5586787

[civic elm]

so ive barely started to try this mod, but im confused.. lethellevelloader doesnt seem to want to generate a config when i use tolian moons 😦

using LLLFixed btw

with og LLL disabled

[faint topaz]

@civic elm

try this

[civic elm]

ahhh thanks 🙇‍♂️

[faint topaz]

try deleting the configuration and repeating the procedure

[faint topaz]

Start with LLL first

to generate a config

then go into the lobby and exit

[civic elm]

understood 🫡

[faint topaz]

and run with LLL disabled and LLLfixed enabled

[civic elm]

dont worry i understood this instruction from earlier. but thank you for being so helpful.

ill do my part too in the future if i see anyone else having similar problems on here 👍

aww yeahh 😎

my group are gonna check out ur maps for the first time tonight

[faint topaz]

TeraSpace Interior (Early Version)

Description: This version of TeraSpace Interior is in its early stages, and you may encounter unexpected bugs and glitches.

• However, I'm open to hearing all ideas for improvements to make the interior better. Let me know your suggestions!

Tolian's Moons and Interiors

[civic elm]

can i just refer to the levels by their name or do i gotta slap on Level at the end like "NyxLevel"?

when configuring interiors for them

oh wait.. actually prob not huh

i seen dantors refer to PsychSanctum as is without Level at the end

[faint topaz]

the moons are only called that in the console

[faint topaz]

yes

[civic elm]

zenit or zenith?

i see mentions of both

[faint topaz]

Zenit, Nyx, Maritopia, Celestria, EchoReach, PsychSanctum, Harloth

[civic elm]

thank you

[wanton elbow]

Tested it's really cool but i think its too small you can't run ahah

[hasty spruce]

first time trying to load the interior i got stuck on the seed (i shoudl've saved my log >.<)

second time worked

but i can't get past the second room

the game acts as if there's a wall and pushes me back

and apparrently if i stand and jump there i clip out a little

happened again

issue is probably with the tile

[warped elk]

I wonder if it’s registering a physical door there and so it’s blocking you from going through it (but obv there’s no interaction to “open” the door)

[high tinsel]

can this be used on Experimentation?

[hasty spruce]

i don't think so

i think it's just

too small

so you can walk through it but cant do a full step as it pushes you back

[hasty spruce]

it can be used on anything

[warped elk]

Ahh yeah that could also be the case. Are you able to crouch through it?

Or jump through it?

[high tinsel]

i got this on exper

[hasty spruce]

GOT THROGUH

yeah it looks like its prob a weird height thing

[hasty spruce]

just restart the game

and send the log

that happened to me on spacestation my first trry

[high tinsel]

this was my second attempt lol

[hasty spruce]

oh wait

that wasn't the right tile lmfao

so i guess a few have the issue

[warped elk]

Lovely day for a space atroll, innit?

If it’s coming specifically in the circular doorways when you’re trying to go in-between sections, then it could be that the frame is too small to let the player model pass through

[hasty spruce]

little guy doing alrrright?

[warped elk]

Or is it happening in the middle of the tile?

[hasty spruce]

that's what i meant to say yeah

[high tinsel]

yeh idk i tried 3 times and same errors

[hasty spruce]

so yeah i'd send your log

[hasty spruce]

Dang looking at the screenshots on my iPad and they look so much worse than they did in-game on my pc lol

Likely just a “looks better in motion” thing

[civic elm]

we havent managed to explore all ur moons yet, but my friends were absolutely loving it. 👌

[tiny island]

Too bad they don't take paypal

[digital delta]

Yep, confirmed can't even load at all (stuck on random seed) and got this exception on experimentation. (I set up the interior to teraSpace on that moon)

[faint topaz]

@high tinsel @hasty spruce @digital delta Sometimes it generates sometimes it doesn't I will try to fix this problem but I don't know why this is happening yet

[digital delta]

I can send you the logs if it helps

[faint topaz]

try using the moon from sfDesat SpaceStation

[digital delta]

Yeah I tried that before with v0.2 but still the same issue persists.

I’ll send you the logs for that

I tried using the only essential mods to load spacestation and teraspace interior and it works for the second boot, not the first one tho.

[digital delta]

I'm gonna see what mod conflicts with my modpack

[faint topaz]

Probably because you're using a custom enemy

[digital delta]

Oh?

[faint topaz]

but I have yet to find out

[digital delta]

Aside from incompatibility, its quite difficult to navigate between tiles, some of them are able to succeed just by walking, some of them able to pass through it when we are sprinting, and some of them can't proceed to the next one nonetheless (just like in the video)

[faint topaz]

1️⃣ should I enlarge the interior or 2️⃣ leave it as it is?

[digital delta]

Another note when I'm testing this with sfDesat's spacestation moon, the interior clashes with the base of the moon itself, preventing the players to proceed to the tiles inside the base due to the barrier that has been set by sfDesat.

[faint topaz]

@flat nexus

[flat nexus]

I think it is generating in a circle. because the entryroom is near the entrance. I did have to move the Dungeonroot a fair bit away. I cant show it right now

[faint topaz]

I'll add restraints so this doesn't happen

[sleek crater]

in the longterm the outside dungeon stuff that map does will probably have to be faked tbh

[digital delta]

Based on my previous modpack, I did add locker, Diversity's walker, LC Office's shrimp, shy guy, and siren head. I'll start testing one by one of the modded enemies and see where it goes.

[faint topaz]

thanks

[flat nexus]

why is this if i may ask?

[sleek crater]

stuff like multi dungeons might need me to take away your ability to choose where the dungeon spawns

[flat nexus]

hmm ok

[sleek crater]

longer than sooner

[ancient crane]

I never knew "Tolian Moons" wasnt a "modpack" anymore

I had the moons individually and the Tolian Moons and my game was completely broken and I didnt know why 😭

[faint topaz]

now all the moons are in one package

[ancient crane]

yea

I can see that

[digital delta]

cool concept, but gonna be a problematic experience lmao

[digital delta]

Okay, so I have tested using all 5 modded enemies as mentioned, and this is what I have gathered here:

1. Spacestation failed to load upon first boot using Locker and LC Office, but succeeded on the second one.
2. Tested using each modded enemies individually and it passed.
3. When testing using combined modded enemies, Locker, ShyGuy and SirenHead are able to load.
4. When combining using LC Office and Diversity, it somehow fails to load (stuck on random seed). I tried enabling individually for LC Office and Diversity again after occurring the issue and resulting to stuck on random seed as well for both of them. Im confused.

This is the logs for enabling Locker, ShyGuy, SirenHead and Diversity.

[digital delta]

5. Okay, so I tried booting again using LC office and the 3 modded enemies (Locker, shyguy, and sirenhead) and it seems to be working. Same goes for Diversity and the 3 modded enemies. But for some reason, combining Diversity and LC Office resulting to not load the map and get stuck on random seed.

[ancient crane]

well lc office has a patch for diversity because of halt

[ancient crane]

maybe something to do with that

[digital delta]

Oh?

Didn't notice the patch tho

[ancient crane]

yeah because if you use diversity’s darkness thing

when halt attacks you its way too dark

so office makes it brighter I think

[digital delta]

Ouh it's this one. They set up for the config specifically to increase the brightness right.

[faint topaz]

interesting

I'll see what I can do about that

[twilit jay]

question, does maritopia have nodes/graphs for enemies outside?

[faint topaz]

yes

[twilit jay]

k

I'm using lethal quanties finally and it's a god blessing for importing custom loot into LLL based moons-

[faint topaz]

I've added the ability to set a value to enemies on the outside