loaforcsSoundAPI

[cinder jolt]

Getting to a point now where this is useable. Meant basically to be LCSoundTool and CustomSounds in one with way more customisation. Now this is absolutely not a replacement (atleast for most people), with the state it's in already just getting a simple sound replacement is harder but it's been built in such a way that soundpack creators can soon tweak many more values than you ever could with LCSoundTool/CustomSounds.

Current features:

• Sounds are not bound by filename but instead through json files. This means:
• Binding multiple custom sounds to a single sound (better variations)
• internal custom file structure can be completely different to that of the games, and it will just resolve
• and because it's in .json format it can be easily expanded upon
• Certain sounds can be loaded on startup (say main menu sounds) and the rest can be loaded on a background thread while the game continues to boot.
• Cut https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1197391708816679002 from about 4 seconds of load time to 0.25 seconds
• This feature is still a little bit buggy, if you have a mod that skips a part of the start up process it could cause some issues.

A simple tutorial is available on the github wiki.
Thunderstore link: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/loaforc/loaforcsSoundAPI/
ofc this is still in development but i hope opening it up to more people will help accelerate the development, got some cool features planned just gotta get around to implemeting them

[lament drift]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

This feature is still a little bit buggy, if you have a mod that skips a part of the start up process it could cause some issues.

[manic heron]

https://tenor.com/view/seen-it-marty-back-to-the-future-ive-seen-this-one-gif-5960361

[cinder jolt]

well if we do manage to make a global audio list i could make a script that automatically does it :3

[fiery arrow]

Do we have volume control yet?

[cinder jolt]

not yet, trying to figure out the best way to do that

cause with stuff like the fear sound effects the game actually has all of the sounds playing at once and dynamically mixes the volume

[fiery arrow]

Good point

Also how do I upload the sound wiki I made to github? Never really used it before

[cinder jolt]

do you have a new page button here?

[fiery arrow]

nopee

[cinder jolt]

oh go into the code tab, then you can click fork, then you should see that button under the wiki

[fiery arrow]

Id have to request an edit right?

[cinder jolt]

yeah

[fiery arrow]

Wiki? Or somewhere else

[cinder jolt]

yeah under the wiki, if theres an option to do that

otherwise youll need to create a pull request i think

[fiery arrow]

Made a pull request, i think

[chilly mango]

@sleek fjord May be interesting for you? especially for loading time purposes?

[cinder jolt]

i made this tool for them lol

[sleek fjord]

Wha…

[fiery arrow]

cough cough

[fiery arrow]

Plan on putting this into the other server too?

[merry sedge]

Despite the bugs, this is still amazing

[fiery arrow]

Cant get anything to work, is this right?

[chilly mango]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[merry sedge]

I'm Pretty sure when you do more than 1 match, you have to select it like

"matches": [
"SelectAudio:ButtonPress1",,
"Audio:ButtonPress2"
],

in this part

[fiery arrow]

Maybe, but I cant get the rest to work either

[merry sedge]

The folder that you have the ogg files is named Misc, right?

[fiery arrow]

yup

[merry sedge]

Except Menu1 that it's in Music Folder, correct?

[fiery arrow]

yup

Weight is in right? How does that work?

[merry sedge]

{
"matches": [
"VoiceAudio:Roar",
"ForestGiant:Roar",
"CloseWideSFX:Roar"
],
"sounds": [
{
"sound": "eyeless_dog/Roar_01.ogg",
"weight": 18
},
{
"sound": "eyeless_dog/Roar_02.ogg",
"weight": 19
},
{
"sound": "eyeless_dog/Roar_03.ogg",
"weight": 20
},
{
"sound": "eyeless_dog/Roar_04.ogg",
"weight": 21
},
{
"sound": "eyeless_dog/Roar_05.ogg",
"weight": 22
}
]
},

Weight is the chance of the sound appearing

I'm not completely sure if it's 0-100.
But if you want all the music be heard, you can set the same weight to everyone

[sleek fjord]

No longer needs to math to 100

In fact the weights can be the same even

[sleek fjord]

All those peeps reuploading LR boutta get real confused 🕊️🕊️

[merry sedge]

Well, they can still reupload, it's not so hard to change sounds

I "Kinda" get this now

[ancient axle]

it previously did? 😅

[merry sedge]

That's why I'm not completely sure :]

[sleek fjord]

Yessir

[dark crypt]

Apologies if this is a dumb question, but how do you get the names of the GameObjects to use under "matches"?

Are they just found in the steam folder?

[merry sedge]

No

These ones?

[dark crypt]

Yeah

[merry sedge]

download the mod and enable debug in the console

It'll give you all the sounds and its matches

[dark crypt]

Ohh I see, awesome

[merry sedge]

when the sound play

[dark crypt]

Oh so it gives you the GameObject name of sounds as they're played ingame?

[merry sedge]

yep

[dark crypt]

Ahh cool I understand

[cinder jolt]

yeah ig it'll quash those for you, or they'll all use old versions

also most things are case sensitive

[sleek fjord]

It’s not the end of the world or anything, it’ll just be funny

[merry sedge]

yep

[cinder jolt]

@merry sedge did you get around to testing the blob earlier?

[merry sedge]

Not yet

[merry sedge]

Note

• If you have no knowledge of making and/or editing. json files, I recommend that you keep using LCSoundTools and CustomSounds.

[dark crypt]

Are there known issues with default audios not playing or sounding different? (Ship landing and taking off noises were gone completely, and MouthDog noises were lower pitched than they should be). I can make an issue on GitHub if this isn't already a known problem

[cinder jolt]

have you tried with the latest version, there was an issue that affected some sounds like ship ambience that i fixed

[dark crypt]

Ah no I have not, that must have come online while I was testing. I'll try it again later

The ship landing and taking off sounds at the very least are still gone, I'll make a GitHub issue tomorrow

[simple ether]

Okay guess I should be in here not the LR channel

How do you run console commands to spawn stuff in? am I dumb? trying to spawn some scrap to get the sfx string names

[cinder jolt]

you can use the lethaldevmode mod

[simple ether]

ohhhhhh mmk

[simple ether]

Aight now I'm getting spammed debug logs

[cinder jolt]

yeah it is pretty spammy atm

i'd recommend triggering the sound then just closing the game and looking through the log

[simple ether]

kk, what about if I want multiple sounds, and only one to play at random, will this work?

[cinder jolt]

it'll be like

"sounds": [
  {
    "sound": "turret/seeplayer01.ogg" // <- make sure to not forget the file extension
  }, // <this command isimportant
  {  "sound": "turret/seeplayer02.ogg"
  }
]

[simple ether]

mmk, nice

imagine you've still got lots of docs coming

[cinder jolt]

yeah got one up now about the coming config system and multimatching

gotta do one for multiple sounds + the weight system

[simple ether]

yaaa that's the one I was looking for

and the top line stuff like this

[cinder jolt]

i haven't fully tested that yet

basically that just changes how it will pick the random sounds, so determinstic uses more memory but will mostly* be synced

[simple ether]

oic

this look right?

[cinder jolt]

yeah that looks all good

[simple ether]

noice!

[cinder jolt]

keep in mind that it doesn't use the weights from the filename

[simple ether]

ya I harvested them from an old mod, guess I should just rename them all for cleanliness

There's a bunch of beserk sounds too but I don't have the matches for them, seems pretty tricky to get the dubug on that

Do you happen to have the matches from LM beserk turrets?

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt I’ve got the wiki list converted to github, waiting on a master audio list from you to get all the audiosources in

[fiery arrow]

Also, do you think its possible to play a sound depending on what played before it? For example, changing the "hit ground" sound of a stun grenade after the pin is pulled

[cinder jolt]

yeah i'll probably have to build up better tooling soonish

[cinder jolt]

depends on if i actually go through with this wild idea that i have

[fiery arrow]

like, the api on general or some specific feature?

[cinder jolt]

a specific feature

im thinkin it might be out of scope though, its like bordering

[sullen ore]

I may as well post this

Only with this Mod enabled gave me a error

Btw just to let y'all know this error does nothing to my gameplay or any lag or fps drops or repeats

It doesn't do any of that I'm just posting it here cause yk it's an error lol

[radiant marsh]

That's one of the missing sounds, I THINK

Yeah RockCrumble is one of the missing sounds

[sullen ore]

I see so LETHALRESONANCE issue

[radiant marsh]

Ow wait they missing ROckCrumble5

[sullen ore]

Cause I'm just using whatever LETHALRESONANCE is using

Plus less mods is fine with me

[radiant marsh]

Yeah I am switching now if Bongo said all good to go, just some missing sounds that's all atm

[sullen ore]

I'm back to 49 mods in my modpack

Same as the version number

[fiery arrow]

LR is in thee middle of moving API's yeah, so go back to 4.0.8 if you want it to work

[radiant marsh]

Only few sounds missing, not end of the world :3

well.. "few" :3 if it means no more CS or LCs then I am game :3

[sullen ore]

Nah I'd stay since it isn't really a big issue though I will might miss my perfect non-error Modpack for now

[radiant marsh]

Also reading now on api tutorial for adding sounds to it already so I can chuck some stuff in it 😛

[sullen ore]

It's actually really easy and straightforward

Just extra steps

[radiant marsh]

Looks like it yeah haha

[sullen ore]

Not too big

[radiant marsh]

I mean it was lazy anyway just to copy and paste into folders and expect things to work ^^

my only question for @cinder jolt is it says MP3 is experimental, so would just sticking to .wav be best?

[sullen ore]

Might not work like that but sure if it covers 90% you have to do then alright

[radiant marsh]

no I was talking about LCSounds etc

[sullen ore]

Oh

[radiant marsh]

Lol xD

[sullen ore]

Anyways this mod is interesting

I always like things going advanced

Just like my Modpack basically an Advanced Version of others normal HideNSeek mod

:)

[sleek dew]

The main thing is that there are no problems with other sounds that do not use LCSound

[fiery arrow]

They're custom made

[sleek dew]

So there won't be any problems, I just wanted to make sure

[cinder jolt]

yeah loaforcsSoundAPI is fairly new (came out on thunderstore yesterday) so LethalResonance is the main mod that uses it rn

[fiery arrow]

I want to convert mine I just need all the gameobject and audiosources (pls)

[sleek dew]

I don’t really like it when everything is collected in one pile

[cinder jolt]

good luck ;3

[sleek dew]

I just have a couple of custom sounds - which should be played randomly, like in LCSound

[cinder jolt]

note that also doesn't include the parent's names which would be important for making customsounds for each different enemy

[sleek dew]

For example:
Menu1
Menu1-1
Menu1-2
Menu1-3
And so on

[fiery arrow]

This'll do for now
https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-handshake-handshake-meme-meme-gif-6733294716339523020

[cinder jolt]

you'll most likely just need to wait and see if any mods do come out and add meme sounds through my api

[sleek dew]

It works?

[cinder jolt]

yeah i hope to get better tooling done soonish

[cinder jolt]

it works but under a different system

[sleek dew]

In what system? In your?

[cinder jolt]

yeah you need to define it in a .json file under a pretty strict format

[sleek dew]

I wanted to make sure of this that random playback works here as well as in LCSound

[sleek dew]

I'm ready to manually record everything there, all 150 sounds

The main thing is that everything works 😭

[cinder jolt]

id recommend starting with reading through the simple tutorial and just understanding the basics

[sleek dew]

But will it be easier to add sounds in the future?

Like for example in LCSound

Or is it so irrelevant that it is better to write everything in JSON so that the program works according to the algorithm

[cinder jolt]

with my api its a lot easier to manage big soundpacks vs ones that do like 1 or 2 replacements

[sleek dew]

Yes I understood that

Okay, I'll try to figure it out

Thanks for the great job!

Another stupid question

Is this a client mod?

[cinder jolt]

yeah its completly clientsided

[fiery arrow]

I apparently have a good chunk of those for you in my log

[sleek dew]

Is it possible, for example, for the music in the menu to be permanently replaced by one file? @fiery arrow @cinder jolt

And was not included in random performance, as for example in RESONANCE

I need to call it Menu1 so that there is a complete replacement, right?

And if I want random ones, then add “_1”

And so on

[fiery arrow]

"Load_on_Startup" means it loads menu.json and ONLY menu.json when the game first starts, loading everything else in the background afterwards. Means you dont have to wait at the start for 10 seconds for it to load everything

[sleek dew]

It's clear

[fiery arrow]

Not sure why LR has _01 at the end of so many files, something to do with sorting I think

[sleek dew]

But I had another question...

[sleek dew]

Well, I just want to completely replace the standard LC music so that it doesn’t play

So should I name the file Menu1? Without any _01

[fiery arrow]

The name doesn't matter, you need to go to menu.json and manually change it to play your file (whatever it's name is)

[sleek dew]

I did not get anything

I'm sorry

I need a more detailed answer, it's hard to understand through a translator

[fiery arrow]

CustomSounds needs files to have a specific name, SoundAPI does not

[sleek dew]

It's very strange and difficult

[fiery arrow]

With SoundAPI you can name your file whatever you want, you just need to make a "replacer" file that connects to it

[sleek dew]

This I know

I have read the documentation completely

[fiery arrow]

\LethalResonance\replacers\menu.json

You must change this line to your own sound file, including the path to it and it's name

[cinder jolt]

its for the random variations

[sleek dew]

And then the standard music of the LC menu will not play, but the one I specified will play, right?

[fiery arrow]

You can remove the line to make it play the default music, or add your own by changing the line

[cinder jolt]

or use the new config system

[fiery arrow]

Or that

[sleek dew]

I'm trying to figure it out...

But I don't understand anything

I'll figure it out and test my guesses along the way.

Maybe I asked the question wrong, I don’t understand...

[sleek dew]

1

What is "weight"?

[fiery arrow]

percentage chance to play, same as CustomSounds but with a different name

[radiant marsh]

@cinder jolt It don't matter what you name the folders right?

As long as what ever you're pointing to matches?

[cinder jolt]

yeah

you can also have a folder structure as deep as you want

[radiant marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/splash-puddle-shock-shocked-deeper-gif-6779150623423967131

[sleek dew]

If the file is not there, but it is in JSON, will it just ignore that and continue to work?

[radiant marsh]

@cinder jolt sorry for other question but can I include two paths and sounds in same json or would I still need to make seperate jsons to replace sound? as I see commas already used

ignore missed "

xD

[cinder jolt]

I'm not sure what you mean.. I'd recommend looking at how resonance is set up ATM while all the docs are still being created

also recommend using vs code

[sleek dew]

And my question?

[fiery arrow]

DressGirlModel:VoiceSFX:Laugh1
DressGirl:Laugh1
VoiceSFX:Laugh1
ComedyMask:Laugh1

Zeekers why

[sleek dew]

If there is no file in the folder, but there is one in JSON

Will there be any problems? He'll just ignore

[radiant marsh]

@cinder jolt I meant am I allowed to do this?

[cinder jolt]

yeah but not in that way it's set-up in resonance for sound variations

[sleek dew]

:с

help me

[cinder jolt]

and the advanced features page on the wiki has a section named multimatching

[radiant marsh]

ow heck yeah it does I didn't even look right right of page mb xD

[cinder jolt]

there's a lot coming in bear with me 😭

[sleek dew]

sorry 😭

[cinder jolt]

what folder? it's required that you have a sound pack json file

[sleek dew]

Again

I want to delete the ogg file in the folder

But it remains registered in JSON

Will there be any problems?

Will he just ignore it?

I know @radiant marsh

I've got it all figured out

I'm interested in other questions

[cinder jolt]

yeah it'll log an error to the log but it should continue on still

probably still shouldn't purposefully have missing audio files

[sleek dew]

That's what I wanted to know, thanks 😘

[sleek dew]

But this is scary

I want to break laws!

[radiant marsh]

Why would you want to point audio/directory to an empty entry? @sleek dew

[sleek dew]

I take the ready-made version with resonance

and I'm correcting a few things

I want to replace a couple of sounds and delete the existing ones

I have my own custom pack

And I don’t like some sounds in resonance and I replace them from other projects

or I delete it completely

[radiant marsh]

Yeah but if you remove the entry for that sound, you wont have the error in the console because it's not searching for a "missing" file then.

[sleek dew]

But Bongo said - it’s better to clear this sound into JSON so that everything is fine

[radiant marsh]

Yeah this is what I am saying, make sure in json it's cleared too. ^^

[cinder jolt]

just wondering are you guys getting the "multiple audio sources unsupported" warning

can't remember if I fixed that in the live version

[sleek dew]

If I write Menu1, is it okay? @cinder jolt

Without numbering

I wish it would just replace the default song in LC forever

And didn't lose it

bracken xd
Forgot to replace it with menu

[radiant marsh]

@cinder jolt Only see error for missing audio from LR atm

[cinder jolt]

yeah it usually happens when you load into the ship

[radiant marsh]

ow okay let meretry

[cinder jolt]

are you trying to replace the main menu music with a random one each time?

[sleek dew]

Yes, I like several different...

I just don’t know how it will work - if the player leaves the game and goes back to the menu

[radiant marsh]

@cinder jolt No this error doesn't show that I can see

[fiery arrow]

Does BellChimeAmbience just not have any gameobject/audiosource?

[sleek dew]

Will there be random music?

[cinder jolt]

yeah that should work then

[cinder jolt]

huh what issues are you running into

it might not have a parent game object but it should have something for the audio source name

[radiant marsh]

@cinder jolt More question haha, have we got a list to be able to replace? I saw your list earlier but it has no Intro/Quota/deliveryship

[lament drift]

audiosource gameobject right

[fiery arrow]

the log doesnt even report it playing :P

[cinder jolt]

the format is <parent name>:<source object name>:<clip name>

[fiery arrow]

No reference at all to the sound, yet it works ingame

[cinder jolt]

yeah I think I sent one earlier on in this thread

[lament drift]

yeee but its the gameobjet the audiosource is on rifht

Just checking that ur not checking the actual component name

[radiant marsh]

Yeah I saw this but I don't see any referrence for those in there 😛

[cinder jolt]

yeah obv

[radiant marsh]

OW

Ignore me

I see it

[cinder jolt]

haha all good, just note that not every sound is in there ATM and there is a couple wrong ones from when I scraped a bunch from the files

[sleek dew]

@cinder jolt Did I do the right thing?

Pointing the way to the jester's factory song

[cinder jolt]

yeah that should work

[sleek dew]

hmm, it doesn't stand out in blue, it makes me scared 😭 @cinder jolt

[cinder jolt]

https://tryitands.ee

it should still work

[sleek dew]

Well then, okay, I’ll ignore this moment, then I’ll check everything in the game

[radiant marsh]

@cinder jolt Okay I am being dumb I can't find target for introspeech D: and delivery rocket

[sleek dew]

Can I allow spaces in the folder path?

Or do you need to write spaces separated by "_"

[fiery arrow]

Working on a reference sheet for that, but its gonna take a while since im reformatting the entire thing

[sleek dew]

The hardest part is I don't know where the path is for the vanilla items...

I wanted to replace the phone sound

Also for a shotgun, the sounds of shots

And land mines

[radiant marsh]

Ah this explains it then >.< Yeah was looking for ages for Icecream and introspeech >.<

[radiant marsh]

In the list Bongo provides ;P

GunShootSFX:ShotgunBlast
GunShootSFX:ShotgunBlast2

[sleek dew]

Where is this list?

[radiant marsh]

Here.

[sleek dew]

Exactly, thank you >.<

[radiant marsh]

You're welcome

[fiery arrow]

Q:
would you people want the reference sheet to be alphabetical in order of gameobject/audiosource, or alphabetical in order of sound name?

So for example

• DressGirl:

  • Breath1
  • Breathing
  • SkipWalk

• FGiantModelContainer

  • FarWideSFX:DistantRumble1
  • VoiceSFX:StunGiant
  • CloseWideSFX:Roar

or

• DressGirl:

  • Breath1
  • Breathing

• FGiantModelContainer

  • CloseWideSFX:Roar

• FGiantModelContainer

  • FarWideSFX:DistantRumble1

• DressGirl:

  • SkipWalk

• FGiantModelContainer

  • VoiceSFX:StunGiant

[sleek dew]

I succeeded

I updated 150 sounds :3

Now all that's left to do is check...

[dark crypt]

First one for sure

[fiery arrow]

The advantage of me doing the latter is finding the sound names would be easier

it won't look as cluttered in the end

[radiant marsh]

First one 100%

Also if LR is replacing a sound, I can not also replace the song on top? I would need to edit LR?

[fiery arrow]

[radiant marsh]

No wonder why my audio replacement wasn't working. LR already replacing the sound >.<

Is there a specific way to overrule LR replacement without editing LR? I assume when Mods get downloaded they'll overwrite anything that's present or no?

[fiery arrow]

Wait for them to add config control

And yes they do overwrite when updated

[radiant marsh]

So technically I can't do my own sound whilst LR is installed >.<

[fiery arrow]

for now no, when LR gets configs for control you will be able to just make your own mod

[radiant marsh]

Well least my confusion can end now, I was like why it no worky... and check debug it shows it's being replaced and totally forgot that LR has replacements already for it. I was like disable just in case and my sounds worked haha xD

I'll waity for config for now then 😄

Because LR ❤️

[sleek dew]

Nothing works for me xD

Sounds just aren't captured

[sleek dew]

Does it work for you?

help me please

I don't understand what I did wrong

[radiant marsh]

Yes sound replacement worked for me, just couldn't replace the sounds because they were already replaced by LR.

[sleek dew]

I don't use LR

I took the basic settings from them

But I don’t use all the sounds, I used other custom ones

[radiant marsh]

Copypasta is worst habbit ever fyi 😛

[sleek dew]

I know, but I don't like some sounds, I cut them out and put in others

I don't want to reinvent another wheel

It's easier for me to make a motorcycle out of a bicycle

This is progress - improving something

[radiant marsh]

I read tutorial, I did what it said, it worked for me.

[sleek dew]

I always mention this, if I took the idea from anyone, thank you and so on

[radiant marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

give it a good boning

[fiery arrow]

oh great, so theres DoublewingedBird and Bone.001

fucks sake zeek, which one do i use????

[sleek dew]

@cinder jolt help me(

[radiant marsh]

I remember why I stopped using VS xD

[sleek dew]

I don't know what I did wrong

[radiant marsh]

Why you telling me to put a commas there you goofball xD

[sleek dew]

He just doesn't make sounds

@radiant marsh send your version please

I want to see the source text

[radiant marsh]

Huh?

[sleek dew]

I really think I'm wrong somewhere

[radiant marsh]

I'm not adding custom sounds yet, I can't use LR + My own custom sounds. They're gonna do a config so you can disable sounds on LR so you can add your own on top.

Mine literally looked like similar to what's on the tutorial.

Just with added entries/references

Or similar to LR either way 😛

Look at LR's for an example.

[sleek dew]

It's clear I'm being ignored

[radiant marsh]

Use tutorial for explaination and use LR for an example.

[sleek dew]

I did it completely according to the LR template and loaforcsSoundAPI

And nothing works

I realized what the problem is

I'll go check...

everything is working

It’s just that when I checked manually, I didn’t pull out the main folder

Sorry for disturbing :с

[radiant marsh]

Haha it's all good xD

[sleek dew]

no, nothing works again

menu music does not play

@cinder jolt

I don't understand anything

He doesn't see music from the menu at all

ogg audio format...

But how much bitrate do you need?

[fiery arrow]

up to you

[sleek dew]

good advice

more information please

[fiery arrow]

there's no requirement or limit

[sleek dew]

yes, the problem was in ogg

I converted it above 128bit

he didn't perceive it

Why some files simply didn't work

I checked, everything works

[fiery arrow]

Not sure then, maybe it got corrupted when you converted

[sleek dew]

Oh...

But the sound works

Yes, it looks like the problem was in the conversion

Corrected

But now there's another problem

Sometimes some sounds disappear in the game xD

I didn't hear the ship land

Ah, it’s most likely LR that cut out the sound

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Some sounds seem to have a similar thing to "(clone)", you should add a check for that too

[radiant marsh]

@sleek dew use Audacity.

[sleek dew]

Can he convert 150 sounds at once?

[sleek dew]

@cinder jolt I found the problem

There is no landing sound

I ran one loaforcsSoundAPI, check for error

And it was confirmed

and the sounds of monsters with LR don't work... I don't understand anything anymore

It's like some sounds aren't loading or the JSON is being ignored

[merry sedge]

There's a lot of BareFootstep

btw, found

[fiery arrow]

Something is seriously wrong with my game

[merry sedge]

WA-

[fiery arrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmwuTdl5ta0

[sleek dew]

I took the values ​​from LR

They should have everything right

But there was no sound

My question is, will in the future, for example, 2 sounds be synchronized together and played?

For example, music playing Jester and opening it? So that other random people don’t interrupt them, that everything goes according to the algorithm

[sleek dew]

I do not know how to explain it

[sleek fjord]

Something that also crossed my mind is that I’ll probably have other sound packs/mods send me their replacer files necessary for their pack/sound mod to be configurably compatible and add it to LR

[fiery arrow]

Or you wait for a "If (folder namee) is in plugins, disable this replacer" feature

[sleek fjord]

@cinder jolt this sounds real nice

[cinder jolt]

yeah that could be doable

[sleek fjord]

Especially to make LR a foundation sound pack since it’s so big. That way if there are any sound replacers not from LR they will automatically override LR

[fiery arrow]

There was a way to choose different sounds for doors on different maps right? How did that work again?

[cinder jolt]

its either the gameobject name or the parents gameobject name

[fiery arrow]

both maps use the same ones :P

[cinder jolt]

do they? that's a lil cooked

ill be adding in a condition though that lets you check what interior type it is, so you could have two replacers: one for facility and one for mansion

[fiery arrow]

man thats nice

[dark crypt]

Could we get a pin in here?

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Got my reference sheet fully converted, gotta go for now but help me figure out how to fork it onto your github later

[simple ether]

@cinder jolt can you put the github here instead of the thunderstore link?

[cinder jolt]

yeah it'll be fixed in the next update

[cinder jolt]

I'll be home in a bit

[cinder jolt]

also have you already made this adjustment in your list? this would be a somewhat breaking change to remove these but it probably should be done

I was also thinking about allowing custom "mappings" so that we could abstract that away for more creators

[merry sedge]

Pain

[merry sedge]

How would be this?

[cinder jolt]

it'd probably be a different json file that maps for example #Coilhead:Footstep to ["Springman:step1","Springman:step2",etc]

[merry sedge]

Interesting!
(I don't get it, but dw)

[sleek dew]

What has changed in loaforcsSoundAPI v0.1.1?

[cinder jolt]

oh lol the changelog isn't being displayed on thunderstore

v0.1.1

• Fixed an issue where the ship thrusters were silent
• More processing done on matching strings: Flame (3):ThrusterCloseAudio (1):ShipThrusterClose to Flame:ThrusterCloseAudio:ShipThrusterClose

[sleek dew]

The bug with the missing engine sound remains...

[cinder jolt]

it should be fixed

[sleek dew]

Well, I started it with a clean version

via r2modman

Only one LR

And nothing

Disabled LR

There is also no engine sound

I'm checking again, maybe I made a mistake somewhere

Although no, everything is there

The sound is just very quiet...

Yes, everything is great

It was just a quiet sound, I'm sorry please

I'm a deaf grandfather 😂

My sounds that I set up don't work xD

He just ignores them, now I don't understand anything at all

Why is everything stable for LR, but not for me...
Although I worked from JSON, I tried to ensure that the algorithm for my custom sounds worked approximately the same way

I don't understand anything

@cinder jolt What does this mean?

[cinder jolt]

what is the debug log right above it

that json file is invalid

[cinder jolt]

no like in the log what is the message right above

[simple ether]

ya looks like syntax error, throw your json in a validator

[sleek dew]

Where?

[cinder jolt]

well menu.json has a problem

copy and paste it into https://jsonlint.com/

it should tell you better where the problem is

[sleek dew]

damn

I missed the comma...

or vice versa

I wanted to put a random music value in the menu

...

I thought this was the right way

How can I make the music more random then? Or is this now not possible in v0.1.1?

[cinder jolt]

you forgot a comma after the "sound": "menu/Menu1.ogg" etc

also by default the weight is 1 you don't need to explicitly define it as one

[sleek dew]

that is, can I remove ""weight": 1"?

[cinder jolt]

yeah

the weights are for if you want a sound more common and another sound rarer

[sleek dew]

What if LR is set to 1 on monsters?

Is this the norm?

[cinder jolt]

no that's probably from my original script, or the lr team misunderstanding

[sleek dew]

I think I figured it out

[sleek dew]

Thanks for the great site, I’ll work with it now

I still don't understand why LR did this? @cinder jolt

If the default value is 1, why assign it every time...

[cinder jolt]

like i said probably from my conversion script or from the lr team not understanding thats the default

[sleek dew]

So this error can be ignored?

[cinder jolt]

no it can't, i just mean that weight 1 is a mistake being put there, it's not bad but you don't need to

[sleek dew]

I just took a couple of sounds and added my custom ones, I thought about setting the same settings as LR

To avoid problems and out of sync

Cool, menus and other sounds work, but there’s a problem with monsters...

crap

I'm an idiot

For some reason I threw it into other folders

What caused the confusion

[simple ether]

Feel like there should be a few tiers to determine the layering of sound replacements:
1: OG Vanilla
2: Full Sound replacement packs (LR)
3: Partial sound replacement packs (Everything but LR)
4: Mods that bring their own sounds (enemies/levels)
5: Meme/joke/small replacers
6: Modpacks and user preference replacements

Perhaps it would be worth considering adding higher level priority system like this in the API to help modders work together

[sleek dew]

By the way, I have a suggestion

Add some value so that, for example, a couple of different sounds work simultaneously

For example, winding a box and screaming

There are many interesting sounds

But in LCSound and here they work only by probability

[cinder jolt]

i won't be adding this because you can just layer them in a free program like audacity

[sleek dew]

If only it were possible to synchronize them one by one

[sleek dew]

That's not what I meant

I'm on a different plane

[cinder jolt]

ehh i feel like it would just get misused, maybe i let people in the global config for soundapi choose the order that they load in

[cinder jolt]

what did you mean then? because to me it sounded like you wanted multiple sounds to play together on one object, which is impossible because of the way unity works (without severe workarounds that add unnesscary complexity)

[sleek dew]

I'll try to explain

Something like that

[fiery arrow]

I placed all the room names into their separate category and removed the numbers/duplicates

[sleek dew]

Attach some value to them so that it ignores others

[cinder jolt]

oh yeah this has been suggested and i feel like its just on the edge for the tool but there might be a way at somepoint

[sleek dew]

Is this really difficult to implement?

It’s just always interesting to develop from the outside

[cinder jolt]

yes in a way that is performant and doesn't use too much extra memory

[sleek dew]

Oh, okay then

You need to call ChatGPT and ask it how to do it correctly

[cinder jolt]

chatgpt is basically useless when stuff gets more complex then a simple tutorial unfortunately

[sleek fjord]

is the weight 1 gonna be an issue

[sleek fjord]

this is already what I was thinking

[cinder jolt]

no its just not needed

[sleek fjord]

oh cool

[cinder jolt]

and i think also adds to startup time a little bit cause it needs to decode that as well

but it would be fairly small

[sleek fjord]

so about Darkbrewery's idea about levels to soundpacks so if they are present they automatically override LR. Thoughts?

I feel like that would bring the best user experience and I feel like only 2 levels of override are even required

[cinder jolt]

.

if i let sound pack creators choose their "priority" then why would i not just set it to the highest priority?

[fiery arrow]

Ill just move here
What about:

If you do not know what GameObject/AudioSource to use, you can use a * to bind all of them. This may cause overlap with some sounds (e.g. BitePlayer, Step1-6,PressButton1-2), but is generally an easier method.

[cinder jolt]

and coding in a special exception for lr is not a good idea

[cinder jolt]

If you don't know find out. If you know and know that there is a legitamte reason, then use *

*:<sound name> is basically the root of all the customsound issues because it would replace just on clip name

[sleek fjord]

yeah fair, Guess we'll wait and see

[cinder jolt]

even though lcsoundtool/customsounds are really fucked under the hood

[fiery arrow]

You can use a * to bind a sound to all GameObjects/AudioSources. This may cause overlap with some sounds (e.g. BitePlayer, Step1-6,PressButton1-2), but is generally an easier method.

?

[cinder jolt]

yeah that works

[fiery arrow]

Some sounds may not have a GO/AS, and a * should be used in these cases

[sleek fjord]

also its just nice to have 1 dependency for replacing sounds plus the icon looks better

[cinder jolt]

some sounds may not have a parent; every sound will have a audio source name, it's impossible for it to not have one

[fiery arrow]

Oh nah, ive been using GameObject/AudioSource/SoundName in the document (Mainly because CS uses those terms and they are functionally the same between the two)

[cinder jolt]

oh yeah okay

[lament drift]

unwanted two cents

[cinder jolt]

its just that <parent>:<source>:<clip>, <parent> can and is on numeours sounds empty

[cinder jolt]

oh god

[lament drift]

audiosource and soundname are very different things, atleast from how i read those

[cinder jolt]

wdym?

[lament drift]

/GameObject/AudioSource is interchangable because components don't really have unique names

but soundname implies audioclip.name imo

[cinder jolt]

well idk how else youd describe the gameobject that holds the audiosource without it being a length desciprition

cause at least you have parent name for the parent

[fiery arrow]

The list structure goes as follows:

• [Entity Name]
  • [GameObject Name]
    • [AudioSource Name]:[Sound Name]
      • [Explanation]

This is what I have

[lament drift]

also

out of curiousity

can i pitch a psycho idea

[cinder jolt]

this entier fucking api is a psycho idea

no clue how i managed to build it so quickly

so sure

[lament drift]

you could get the classname and/or functionname that calls the audiosource.play function via looping over like reflection and cache it

if you wanted more ideas on how to specify

[cinder jolt]

wdym by cache it?

also i'm going to fucking explode with playOnAwake because unity fucking sucks

[lament drift]

like a dict or list or smth

idk

[cinder jolt]

well yeah what would be the advantage?

and i'm fairly certain you can get the stack trace that called a function well ig that is sorta reflection

[lament drift]

eg. instead of using more arbitrary things like the audiosource gameobject name or the parent object

you could specify if for example EnemyAI class called it

which would then like naturally support custom enemies

GetType.ToString would also include the assembly name which would let you know if a mod played the sound

etc.

[cinder jolt]

that is a devious idea

i could kinda see how i can implement it without doing that dict stuff

because i engineered the matching system just the right level

[lament drift]

yup

[cinder jolt]

EnemyAI>Rawr this does make a lot of sense

[lament drift]

if you got like the entire like stacktracechain thing it would give you so many options

hm

@ancient axle gonna have a stroke when he reads this suggestion

[cinder jolt]

i think theyd have a stroke reading any of my code bro 😭

cause genuniely why does c# not have a ConfigEntry<?> equivelent

[sleek fjord]

ah yes wtf does all of this mean

hopefully good things

[lament drift]

you know when you get a error and it gives you like the full list of all the things called leading up to that error

[sleek fjord]

yep

[cinder jolt]

the this

[lament drift]

you scrape that at bulk at the start of the game and use that as the matching data

[sleek fjord]

holy jesus

[lament drift]

rather than gameobject name

[cinder jolt]

im just not sure that'd have too many advantages really, considering *:Rawr would do about the same (obv not the exact same but)

[sleek fjord]

how does it even get this big

[cinder jolt]

networking

[ancient axle]

https://GitHub.com/buuz135/darkmodeeverywhere does exactly the same thing 😭 beware that you may cause performance issues by generating stack traces at such a volume

[lament drift]

async reflection time

just let LLL get better and use the time while i unpack assetbundles lmao

[ancient axle]

If c# has a stack walker then use that

[cinder jolt]

well i already load and parse most of the json files off the main thread

[lament drift]

i think theres a lot more usecases in general but you'd name people to use it before knowing them all yknow

[cinder jolt]

yeah the case for modded things is a fair point but yeah ill see if anyone actually needs that functionality before i go crazy with it

[fiery arrow]

fkin 🌈 lol

[cinder jolt]

i love those [!IMPORTANT] though, shame thunderstore doesn't support it

just looks goofy

[fiery arrow]

I think thunderstore uses > as a marker for a quote/comment

[cinder jolt]

yeah it should thats the way markdown works; i meant more github's [!IMPORTANT] isn't actually a part of markdown even though they look really nice

well now that i think of it ig it is supported by obsidian so ig its just not apart of basic markdown

[fiery arrow]

gotta love having no fucking documentation for all these funky thunderstore things

[sleek fjord]

you could add the LR files as documentation examples no?

[cinder jolt]

i could

will i? probably not, much easier when i can just show off the thing that the documentation is talking about

[sleek fjord]

only suggested because seeing it made me understand once it was put together

[cinder jolt]

and if people are still like "im completly lost" then ill point em to lr

[sleek fjord]

fair

[cinder jolt]

yeah also planning to maybe make a massive sound pack with all the meme sounds that way people could start moving off of customsunds/lcsoundtool even more

then also have that as a resource for people to learn

[fiery arrow]

And this looks like shit of course

[sleek fjord]

you're making a meme pack? how unexpected

[cinder jolt]

well i feel like very few mods are gonna be made with my tool, but the mods that are made are giant replacement ones like you guys

[sleek fjord]

well Idk about that, you're prob right but its not anywhere near as hard as it was for us for new sound mods

they could literally name their sound files to what ours are and delete the rest, change the manigfest readme and changelogs and call it a day

[cinder jolt]

also if i use the tool myself then i know how i can make it even better :3

[sleek fjord]

true

[cinder jolt]

it's one of the main ways i balance meltdown

[sleek fjord]

fr wish we had to do this you know, BEFORE it was over 400 sounds

[cinder jolt]

well its all done now

[chilly mango]

Am I understanding something wrong? Description says LR load time gets reduced from ~4s to ~0.25s.
But when starting the game it still says in console it took ~ 3.600ms to load

[cinder jolt]

its 0.25 on startup

it gets split into two loading steps:

start-up: completly blocks the game from loading

[sleek fjord]

Thats why when you click it that it opens so fast without hanging

[cinder jolt]

and post-startup: rest of sounds get loaded off the main thread and the game can continue loading

[chilly mango]

Oh I see so it's the time that takes from clicking "start modded" to the console opening more or less?

[fiery arrow]

yup

well no

[sleek fjord]

console opening? or game

game right

[chilly mango]

console

[cinder jolt]

from reading sound_pack.json to the main sounds being loaded (in lr's case the main menu sounds)

[fiery arrow]

console opens immediately, then it waits for mods to load, then the game starts properly

[cinder jolt]

so from the console opening to the game opening, lr adds 0.25 seconds

[chilly mango]

wait but I do have a ~3.600ms delay (feels like it and says so) when launching the game

I might be a dummy for not understanding

[cinder jolt]

no, that's all in the background

[sleek fjord]

if you have a slow enough HDD would it still be loading the majority of the pack without preventing you from getting to main menu?

[cinder jolt]

no lol i still havent prevented that crash yet

just hoping people with slower hdds load the main menu slower lol

[fiery arrow]

Anyway, now I have to figure out how to actually make a pull request

[cinder jolt]

the contribute button i think

[fiery arrow]

I can contribute to the files but not the wiki

[cinder jolt]

can you try now? i just disabled restricting it to only contributors, so an option may have opened up on the proper wiki?

[fiery arrow]

yup

what would a good name be?

[cinder jolt]

maybe something like "Master Audio List"

[fiery arrow]

Master Audio Documentation?

[cinder jolt]

yeah doesn't overly matter it can be changed later

[fiery arrow]

forgot to change trivia entries https://tenor.com/view/table-hit-yakuza-hitting-table-walk-out-gif-15307369

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-gif-26495714

[fiery arrow]

and now to start converting my own mod 🫠

[cinder jolt]

good luck!

[fiery arrow]

how do I set multiple matches? lol

[fiery arrow]

{
"replacements": [
{
"matches": "PlayerSettingsObject:Button1",

        "sounds": [
            {
                "sound": "Misc/Button1.ogg"
            }
        ]
    },
    {
        "matches": "MenuManager:Button2",
        "sounds": [
            {
                "sound": "Misc/Button2.ogg"
            }
        ]
    },
    {
        "matches": "MenuManager:Button3",
        "sounds": [
            {
                "sound": "Misc/Button3.ogg"
            }
        ]
    },
    {
        "matches": "MenuManager:Button4",
        "sounds": [
            {
                "sound": "Misc/Button4.ogg"
            }
        ]
    },
    {
        "matches": ["SelectAudio:ButtonPress1","SelectAudio:ButtonPress2"]
        "sounds": [
            {
                "sound": "Misc/ButtonPress2.ogg"
            }
        ]
    }
]

}

Is this not right? help @cinder jolt

[sleek fjord]

Is there a reason you’re struggling to follow LR’s files?

You can just rename your sounds with a _01 at the end and most everything should just work

With the exception of certain weighted stuff if you have a different amount of variety for certain sounds. Then again your sound pack is bigger so I guess that’ll only take you so far

[fiery arrow]

im confused

[fiery arrow]

why _01?

[sleek fjord]

Who knows, that’s what the jsons point to though in LR

(Moroxide knows)

[radiant marsh]

@cinder jolt

This worked for me before now it doesn't I am confused D:

[merry sedge]

that's not necesary

It just needs to be the same the name of the file with the Json

[sleek dew]

I have difficulties and suffering as usual

Some sounds are not picked up at all

[merry sedge]

check the error logs

[radiant marsh]

My sounds and jsons are getting registered in debugging but not playing the sound

[merry sedge]

usually they show the Issue

[radiant marsh]

No error

😛

[sleek dew]

Yes, me too

[radiant marsh]

It worked before 😛

[sleek dew]

Jester, Coil-Head

[radiant marsh]

Noticed too now longer getting debug message of it loading the sound pack for me either but changed nothing from when it worked before

Also not related but seen this

[sleek dew]

Does it support wav, mp3, ogg?

But what's the best way to use ogg?

[radiant marsh]

use WAV or OGG

I am 100% sure this is right? But noticed the soundpack itself is nolonger getting picked up

[sleek dew]

He doesn't like some format...
Although 99% of files use ogg and only one wav...

[sleek dew]

https://jsonlint.com/
Check

If everything is clean, then the problem is somewhere else...

[radiant marsh]

I'm using VS?

[sleek dew]

I don't know

I don't understand this

The sound of eating mixed with the sound of a blind dog xD

This has happened before in LCSound

But I still don’t understand the reason for the desynchronization

But the Coil-Head sounds worked correctly ^^

[sleek dew]

Maybe...

[sleek dew]

what did you add there?...

[radiant marsh]

That's not my stuff 😛

I FIXED MY SOUNDS!

xD

[sleek dew]

How?

[radiant marsh]

I knew my issue was soundpack not loading, but remembered I added extra folder before this where red circle is

AFTER Sorry

[sleek dew]

Oh

[radiant marsh]

So I did Extras/SoundPack but I should've just had it in the folder before

If you don't see your folder load up, that's why it's not working. I knew this was issue but couldn't figure out why it wasn't loading until I realised it didn't like the extra folder before location

[fiery arrow]

You need to add extra specification for the giant/dog roar sound for it to work

[radiant marsh]

Like gameobjects and stuff?

[fiery arrow]

yeah

[sleek dew]

Replacing a separate track for it does not work...

[sleek dew]

How is this in general?

[radiant marsh]

This explains why I couldn't get shotgun to replace properly then my bad 😛

[sleek dew]

Settings taken from LR

But I decided not to play the sounds of the giant

Could this be causing the problem?

[fiery arrow]

Check the github page of the mod, I added the reference sheet there earlier today

[radiant marsh]

@sleek dew https://github.com/LoafOrc/loaforcsSoundAPI/wiki/Master-Audio-List

[radiant marsh]

The (unknown!!) threw me off a little, I referred to debug to get the target name 😛

but this was only with deliveryship that I noticed

[merry sedge]

Is this Resonance, right?

[fiery arrow]

Theres a handful there, i couldnt get any entrie in the logs for them

[radiant marsh]

It's all good, thankful for the debug ❤️

Wasn't much of a problem :3

[sleek dew]

Yes

I decided to check some points with you and myself

I just removed the Giant sounds and got this problem

[radiant marsh]

But yeah all working for me now, thank you - awesome stuff ! ❤️

usererror at its finest :3

[sleek dew]

And it’s not a fact that others will have the same thing, but maybe everything is fine and I’m unlucky...

@merry sedge Is this true? "CloseWideSFX:Roar"

Was it because of him that the sound was out of sync in that video?

[merry sedge]

hmm

I'm not sure, I used the same as Bongo made

[sleek dew]

I'll go check it again

I went to be eaten by a giant ^^

The sound is also triggered as before, along with the growling of the dog..

I'm having deja vu

I encountered this on LCSound

[merry sedge]

Yes

that's also an Issue in LCSoundTools

[sleek dew]

Then I'll just turn off the growling sound and that's it.

But there was a similar bug before, when Scream1 from Jester was transmitted to the growl of a dog xD

It was very scary and strange

Why is he scaring me with red again, what doesn’t he like???

Perhaps the ogg format has a slightly higher bitrate and is now swearing...

Or is it custom music in the menu, of which there are 6 pieces...

[fiery arrow]

CloseWideSFX = Giant
VoiceAudio = Dog

[merry sedge]

If you don't match with the CloseWideSFX, it will not longer use that sound on the giant, right?

[simple pumice]

This feature is still a little bit buggy, if you have a mod that skips a part of the start up process it could cause some issues.
can i disable introtweaks skip start-up boot animation but keep the auto launch online to fix this?

[fiery arrow]

Looks like I forgot to add VoiceAudio to the dog listing, will add tha tsoon

[fiery arrow]

yup, separate the two and it should work

[sleek dew]

I only disabled Logo, but there is no CPU loading animation

[merry sedge]

I recommend using the ONLINE Skip of GeneralImprovements

[simple pumice]

okie

[simple pumice]

may i ask what known issue will cause if we don't

[merry sedge]

inminent crash

[simple pumice]

damn

[merry sedge]

yep

Boom

[sleek dew]

DevelopmentStartup
For example this

It immediately flies out

[simple pumice]

im surprised you guys were able to get ur own API @merry sedge

[merry sedge]

It's a goal

[simple pumice]

i guess from all the headache from soundtools, it was only a matter of time

[sleek dew]

Agree

Soon there will be many receivers for various popular mods

And then ZiKers was like, “Ahpahpah, wait, I rewrote all the code with my team, now your mods won’t work. Good luck with the rewrite!”

V50!!!

[simple pumice]

that impending doom is vastly approaching as we get close to march

[merry sedge]

yep

and we will try to fix it

[fiery arrow]

or not because bongo locked the wiki

[merry sedge]

try :,]

[simple pumice]

i will wait patiently lol, i been taking a hiatus waiting for yall to cook

🙏

[sleek dew]

That's it, my console is clean, all problems are fixed, I'm happy

Thanks for the great sound core @cinder jolt 👍

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Is this just a thunderstore thing or are these not meant to show up?

[sleek dew]

This is all supposed to be

They scattered in each folder the individual sounds of all

Which is right

[fiery arrow]

bit annoying considering there are two separate configs to disable/enable stuff now

[radiant marsh]

sound_pack is just the json 😛

lethalresonance is the generated cfg

[fiery arrow]

my point exactly, they control the same things

[sleek fjord]

There is not from a user end

[sleek fjord]

So those matching jsons tell the sound api their default state and which replacer is which. The actual config is in a new config generated by soundapi

The one it generates for us is called soundpack.LethalResonance.cfg

[simple ether]

I have a portal turret sound replacer made up with the new api, noticed you were using the model replacements

[fiery arrow]

Not really since they do the same thing, but you will be seeing it mentioned every now and then

[sleek fjord]

They don’t do the same thing?

There isn’t even an option to disable them in the sound pack jsons

Only in the generated soundapi config

[simple ether]

@radiant marsh

[fiery arrow]

technically no

[sleek fjord]

That says “default” they technically do different things

[radiant marsh]

I appreciate it! I didn't want to disable a whole category on turrets_mines in LR so I left out portal sounds 😛

[sleek fjord]

see but if you make a turrets replacer.json you can specify files used in lr AND files used in your mod then use the config thats generated to make it all work and be distributable @simple ether @radiant marsh

[radiant marsh]

Oh really? 😮 I tried replacing sounds that were already replaces and wouldn't replace or would jump between the replaces sounds but that was when the APi first dropped 😛

[sleek fjord]

config was added only last update to LR

[cinder jolt]

why does it have to be such a bomberclat, no those aren't supposed to show up

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt What does this error mean?

[cinder jolt]

I remember running into this issue, what does your inside json look like

you've probably setup a matcher wrong if it's failing on the parsing step

[fiery arrow]

Would *:MetalDoorShut1 be a valid matcher?

[cinder jolt]

yeah sound be

should

[fiery arrow]

ah, found a missing gameobject

[fiery arrow]

I've got copyrighted music in my mod, but some of that music has copyright free alternatives
Ideally I want a replacer with all the music so the end-user can turn it off at will, but I would want a second replacer with the non-copyright music to turn on when the other is turned off
Can you make a condition for that?

[cinder jolt]

yeah planning to offer "and", "or" and "not" later

it'll be in a few hours though

[merry sedge]

{
"condition": {
        "type": "config",
        "config": "EnabledSounds:scanner_pixel"
    },
    "randomness": {
        "type": "determinstic"
    },
    "replacements": [
        {
            "matches": "UIAudio:Scan",
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "scanner_pixel/Scan.ogg"
                }
            ]
        }
    ]
}

by chance did I do something wrong?
the scanner does not change

[fiery arrow]

There meant to be a comma after the } ?

Yes, yes there is, nvm that

Check the console? it should say what the problem is

[merry sedge]

nope, the console says that everything is perfect

[fiery arrow]

dunno then

[merry sedge]

and, in case

UIAudio:Scan

That's the scan root

[fiery arrow]

The full one would be Audios:UIAudio:Scan but yeah

Try *:Scan

[merry sedge]

Nope :,]

@cinder jolt I think Scan replacement has an Issue

[fiery arrow]

The game seems to always play the rare one. Do I not understand the weight system or is this something similar to the toy robot where it picks one and always plays it?

    "replacements": [
        {
            "matches": "Sandworm:BurrowingRumbleLoud1",
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Leviathan/SandwormPreEmerge.ogg"
                }
            ]
        },
        {
            "matches": "Sandworm:EmergeFromGround1",
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Leviathan/SandwormEmerge.ogg"
                }
            ]
        },
        {
            "matches": "Sandworm:SandWormRoar",
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "Misc/Silence.ogg"
                }
            ]
        },
        {
            "matches": "Sandworm:SandWormRoar",
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "Misc/Silence.ogg"
                }
            ]
        },
        {
            "matches": [
                "Sandworm:BurrowingRumble1",
                "Sandworm:BurrowingRumble2",
                "Sandworm:BurrowingRumble3"
            ],
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Leviathan/SandwormFollowing.ogg"
                }
            ]
        }
    ]
}```

Earth leviathan sounds don't seem to work either, log has no errors

[radiant marsh]

@cinder jolt Can we get an entry/reference from christmas jingle for levels still using LEC? LEC still using the damn christmas song haha xD

[cinder jolt]

I haven't fully tested the weight system so something could be wrong

also @fiery arrow will ask you to edit a small file and put that through as a pull request, I think that makes the wiki editable to you without me needed to open it up to everyone

[simple ether]

What's new in the update? Immediatly went for the changelog but alas, it's not there

[sleek dew]

And what's new? @cinder jolt

[cinder jolt]

oh i keep forgetting to fix that

v0.1.2

• Fixed an issue where if two sound replacers replaced a sound and the one that loaded first was disabled due to a config, the second enabled one couldn't play

it was a silly problem

[simple ether]

ahhhh cool cool

[merry sedge]

The Scan incident

[sleek dew]

@cinder jolt I can't set the mine sound to trigger before the explosion

It's not on the list, I don't know how to write it down

Perhaps this mod covers it

[sleek dew]

But he worked with LCSound before

And they worked simultaneously, creating noise

The meaning of "matches" is "Trigger", does it exist?

[cinder jolt]

yes it should be trigger

[sleek dew]

Strange

Sound doesn't work

[cinder jolt]

MineDetonate plays when the mine blwos up

[sleek dew]

Well, that's what vanilla sounds like

What first beeps and then explodes

Right?

Or when it beeps - a separate track

And the explosion is different

[sleek dew]

Most likely this is the value I need if it really is a separate track

MineTrigger in LCSound, it’s not easy to call it that

[cinder jolt]

well then it's probably MineTrigger

[sleek dew]

Hm

Yes, everything works @cinder jolt

It's just not mentioned here "MineTrigger"

For some reason, despite everything being random, the same music plays in my menu when I start the launch

[cinder jolt]

there is most likely a problem with the weight system, it hasn't been fully tested so youll just need to wait for an api update to fix that

[sleek dew]

Menu1_06 this one

[sleek dew]

Okay, I'll wait :3

[cinder jolt]

are you using randomness: determinstic?

[sleek dew]

yes...

[cinder jolt]

no dont do that, derterminstic plays the exact same sequence of sounds

[sleek dew]

I took it from LR, but didn’t know the meaning

[cinder jolt]

it gets seeded from the filename

[sleek dew]

Damn, I didn't know that

What value should I use for the menu?

[cinder jolt]

nothing delete it

[sleek dew]

Should I delete this?

Or just the guy himself

"type": "deterministic"

[cinder jolt]

the whole randomness setting

[sleek dew]

It worked, now when you first start it plays different music

[fiery arrow]

If I push a file and make another push to remove it do I still keep that permission?

[cinder jolt]

maybe idk really this is my first time actually trying to use the GitHub wiki feature

[fiery arrow]

made a request to add a text file

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Is a weight of 1 greater than a weight of 30?

[sleek dew]

0_0

I'm already starting to get confused...

I need more documentation...

1=100%

[fiery arrow]

Either the giant is broken or 1 is greater than 30

[sleek dew]

0.3=30%

?

[fiery arrow]

my understanding was 100=100% 1=1%
but now Im not sure

well technically thats not correct either, all weights combined = 100%, then it splits them depending on how relatively large they are.
So a weight of 5 and 1 would be 83.333% and 16.666% respectively

[dark crypt]

The chance of one weighted option being chosen, if it's working correctly, should be one weight divided by all weights added together

So if it's weight 1, weight 58, weight 23, the chance of the weight 1 being chosen would be 1 in 82

But also, if you're using deterministic randomness, it will seem not random as you're probably using the same "seed", wherever the sound api retrieves a seed from

[fiery arrow]

Then the giant is broken, because I have this set up and it almost always chooses the ones with a very low weight

                "CloseWideSFX:GiantStomp1",
                "CloseWideSFX:GiantStomp2",
                "CloseWideSFX:GiantStomp3",
                "CloseWideSFX:GiantStomp4",
                "CloseWideSFX:GiantStomp5"
            ],
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStomp1.ogg",
                    "weight": 80
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStomp2.ogg",
                    "weight": 80
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStomp3.ogg",
                    "weight": 80
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStomp4.ogg",
                    "weight": 80
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStomp5.ogg",
                    "weight": 80
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStompLine1.ogg",
                    "weight": 1
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStompLine2.ogg",
                    "weight": 1
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStompLine3.ogg",
                    "weight": 1
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStompLine4.ogg",
                    "weight": 1
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStompLine5.ogg",
                    "weight": 1
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Entities/Living/Giant/GiantStompLine6.ogg",
                    "weight": 1
                }

jumping is fucked up too... Is it cumulative? the hell?

This almost exclusively plays var2, only occasionally doing one of the other two

Yeah I keep finding sounds where the weights arent accurate at all, somethings gone wrong with the system

[sleek dew]

@fiery arrow Do you have this enabled?

I had something like this on my menu

[fiery arrow]

Does the weight not apply if you dont have deterministic?

[sleek dew]

I don't know

🥺

[fiery arrow]

looks like a no

[radiant marsh]

I found I had to use deterministic for my shotgun sounds 😛

But for like audio like a menu swap etc it was fine without anything

[merry sedge]

but...

[proper dragon]

Okay disregard @cinder jolt , discovered it was QualityCompany

Gonna post a bug report on their github

[stoic lily]

Hi, assuming everyone has the same sound file/sound mod, are the replaced sounds synced over multiplayer or is there no networking yet?

[fiery arrow]

The mod itself needs to have sync enabled in the files, otherwise yes

[stoic lily]

oooh, how do we enable the sync in the files?

[fiery arrow]

This line right here
LR should already have these set up properly

[stoic lily]

ah ok, I already have that set up, didn't know that also syncs too! thanks! 👍

[fiery arrow]

On another note, hot damn that download counter

[lament drift]

goated

[dark crypt]

When using a replacer for the Meltdown music, do I need to turn the volume of the music in the config down? I can still hear a faint ghost of the original meltdown music even with a replacer, unless of course replacing modded sounds isn't quite yet fully supported?

Or if I don't use "*:MeltdownHandler:music", should I instead just use "MeltdownHandler:music"?

Or do both do the same thing

[fiery arrow]

Modded sounds probably aren't fully supported yet

Also, you'd only need "MeltdownHandler:music", the third section is just extra specification and isn't necessary (usually)

[dark crypt]

Alright cool, thanks. I figured it might just not work perfectly yet, I imagine my script will work fine once support is added, assuming nothing drastic changes

[fiery arrow]

aaalmost there

[cinder jolt]

you shouldn't disable the original music

I think you're just imagining the faint original

I know it works I have a test pack at home so I'll be able to share that in a bit

[cinder jolt]

wdym by this?

[dark crypt]

The audacity, I'm really not imagining it. I'll record it tomorrow afternoon if I remember. Could it be something to do with allowing it to play outside?

[cinder jolt]

I have a clip where I successfully replaced it one sec

[proper dragon]

I thought that Mirage and the SoundAPI had a conflict cus the Spore Lizard wasn't playing LR's sound earlier, but it was QualityCompany's networking shit causing chaos

However I still can't fully say a conflict isn't possibly, I will say that I had a bug yesterday where a coil head for me was using my friend's voice but for them it was using mine lol but that could have been caused by QualityCompany too

I removed it entirely

[dark crypt]

Maybe using *:MeltdownHandler:music instead of just MeltdownHandler:music did something idk

[cinder jolt]

yeah maybe, I only used MeltdownHandler:music try that?

[dark crypt]

I will tomorrow and let you know

[cinder jolt]

I also really love how discord mobile still just sometimes make this thread disappear from my following list

[cinder jolt]

👍

[sleek fjord]

WAIT CAN I DEPRECIATE MELTDOWN AND THROW IT INTO LR NOW? IS THAT READY???

[cinder jolt]

no there is no changing at runtime

[sleek fjord]

Wait what does that mean? It will never be possible?

[cinder jolt]

no there is no changing at runtime at runtime yet*

[radiant marsh]

I read this then saw Bongo say no :<

So PizzaTowerEscape still 😛

[jolly garnet]

This API currently crashes my game:

  ERROR: SymGetSymFromAddr64, GetLastError: 'Попытка обращения к неверному адресу.' (Address: 00007FFAC7DFD48A)
0x00007FFAC7DFD48A (UnityPlayer) (function-name not available)
0x0000029159BBAF91 (Mono JIT Code) (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.Networking.DownloadHandlerAudioClip:get_audioClip (UnityEngine.Networking.DownloadHandlerAudioClip)
0x0000029159BBACC3 (Mono JIT Code) UnityEngine.Networking.DownloadHandlerAudioClip:GetContent (UnityEngine.Networking.UnityWebRequest)
0x0000029159BB4B2B (Mono JIT Code) [./API/AudioFormatProvider.cs:30] loaforcsSoundAPI.API.AudioFormatProvider:LoadFromUWR (string,UnityEngine.AudioType) 
0x0000029159BB4913 (Mono JIT Code) [./Providers/Formats/OggAudioFormat.cs:13] loaforcsSoundAPI.Providers.Formats.OggAudioFormat:LoadAudioClip (string) 
0x0000029159BB3638 (Mono JIT Code) [./SoundLoader.cs:32] loaforcsSoundAPI.SoundLoader:GetAudioClip (string,string,string,UnityEngine.AudioClip&) 
0x0000029159BB3303 (Mono JIT Code) [./Data/SoundReplaceGroup.cs:77] loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplaceGroup:CreateSoundReplacement (loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack,System.Collections.Generic.List`1<loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplacement>,Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JObject) 
0x0000029159BB1C83 (Mono JIT Code) [./Data/SoundReplaceGroup.cs:29] loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplaceGroup:.ctor (loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack,Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JObject) 
0x0000029159BB160B (Mono JIT Code) [./Data/SoundPack.cs:116] loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack:HandleReplacers (string[]) 
0x0000029159BC292B (Mono JIT Code) [./Data/SoundPack.cs:107] loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack:LoadNonStartupGroups () 
0x0000029159BC2593 (Mono JIT Code) [./SoundPlugin.cs:95] loaforcsSoundAPI.SoundPlugin:LoadNonStartupReplacements () 

I find the reason of why it is crashing. It's due to loading AudioClips on non main thread

[cinder jolt]

you've probably installed the game on a slow disk, disable multithreading in the config until a proper fix is made

[jolly garnet]

ok 👍

[sleek dew]

@cinder jolt Is it better not to run with IntroTweaks?

Because lately I've been catching errors and restarts

In 2 cases out of 5 it did not start for me

[chilly mango]

It's generally recommended not to use intro skipping mods as they might prevent other mods from loading properly iirc. Although if you really need one, this mod seems to be working fine: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/flerouwu/LC_FastStartup/

IntroTweaks got deprecated too so you'd want to get rid of it anyways

[sleek dew]

I have already started to get rid of it, I think they will return to the standard, without a pass

Or Fast Start

[sleek dew]

Problem still exists

Every once in a while the error comes out even with it

[merry sedge]

I recommend GeneralImprovement Online Skip

It works for me

[chilly mango]

good to know, gonna give that one a try too

[sleek dew]

I've already given up everything

Because I have problems starting

Which didn't exist before

[merry sedge]

really?

that's strange

[sleek dew]

Yes, very strange

I didn't even change anything

And suddenly problems appeared

Out of 5 launches - 2 with errors

As soon as I remove any mod for skipping screensavers, there are no problems

I could give my assembly code and test it for someone

But no one cares about that

Perhaps the problem could be something else

Or maybe because of this

But that is another story

[dark crypt]

Gonna try again with the *: removed

[merry sedge]

IndustrialFan:LargeFanRoom is not replaced

[dark crypt]

Just double checked that the actual audio file itself didn't have the faint soundtrack and it doesn't, this still happens even with just MeltdownHandler:music

At 14 seconds in the clip it's quite obvious

[radiant marsh]

Do we still sticking to PizzaTowerEscape scripts for now? 😛

[radiant marsh]

This only issue if you on a HDD from 10 years ago or a CPU from 20 years ago xD