Wesley's Moons/Interiors/Weathers/Variants/General/Mrov

[restive marlin]

anyway hope I was of help :D

[near coyote]

btw this screenshot sucked ass to get because a nutcracker was inside the wall (due to the modded monster "mysterious harbinger" teleporting it to there)

if i died to it i wouldve been pissed off

[round dome]

you'd say "i found a painting with squog on it" and nobody would believe you

[floral remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/no-one-will-ever-believe-you-family-guy-gif-2242922561872133836

[near coyote]

well not that necessarily

more so because i couldnt clearly see what i was looking at

i knew it was a rare painting because the shape was unfamiliar to me

[cobalt sage]

squogifying

[polar pendant]

Who up squogifying their squog?

[desert jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/pussy-cat-cute-kitty-kitten-cat-gif-16800925

[glad canyon]

Anyone/group actively playing Wesley’s moons? I’d like to join to play more of it

[floral remnant]

you can ask in the other server, I think more people may respond there

Looking for group

pawsy!!! respond, you bastard

[main cypress]

I guess that vanity link isn't whitelisted

We're using an old link in the whitelist or something

[floral remnant]

yeah that was odd

LOL

sorry you had to take that timeout off

[main cypress]

Pawsy only responds to looking for group in a few places to avoid spamming the server up

[floral remnant]

ahhh that makes sense

anyway uuuh

Pawsy:

Sorry, meow, but the Lethal Company Modding server doesn't support looking for groups anymore! Please use another Discord server such as the Unofficial Community to find games, thank mew! (link to the server lmao)

[buoyant spindle]

Meow meow!

[floral remnant]

NOW YOU SHOW UP

[buoyant spindle]

Meow!

[floral remnant]

did I kill pawsy by brick reacting that message omfg

[main cypress]

I typo'd the server, lul

[floral remnant]

LMAO

[main cypress]

Nah, I used an override to make her talk in this thread real quick and I hecked up the server link

[unborn oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/hypnosis-cat-gif-2861474131333067562

[cinder spear]

We got 1758 off a single day on Etern in a squad https://youtu.be/aHxBX4fCePA?si=ZwoH2x6VSJO1UKKL&t=6796

https://tenor.com/view/etern-lethal-company-nutcracker-my-beloved-wesleys-moons-gif-1071096407854607851

[near coyote]

rare statue?

[crimson cypress]

fleanits flag

[ivory steppe]

Anyone know what causes the ship to fly under the map on Trite? I've got it through Wesleys Moons, not the standalone version if that helps

[near coyote]

what

[ivory steppe]

I can try and figure out the cause if it's not a known incompatibility, but it'll take a while with my current modpack

I can send a video if it helps since the issue is 100% reproducible

[desert jetty]

Would be funny, send pls

[ivory steppe]

It actually isn't 100% reproducible because I had this happen first time I tried to clip it

[desert jetty]

WTF XD

How does that even happen

Haven't played trite in a while but from last i played that didn't happen so is most likely a compatibility issue with another mod

[round dome]

what in the world this issue, it looks like trite's props are on a different scale???

also the ship on trite is completely surrounded by fully flat terrain from what i remember so in the first clip the terrain is offset somehow too?

[near coyote]

@granite lily so
in addition to the occasional glitched rubber rooms generation, where only main entrance area spawns, and all loot spawns at the check in counter

i just got a glitched atlantean citadel

it had nothing generate except where main generates, and the large central hallway

however, one branching path did generate, but thats because the beholders eye is guaranteed to generate i suppose

[tight plank]

Isn't it because you messed with these settings in Cental Config?

It doesn't sound like something for Wesley to fix

Custom interiors get unstable the more you go beyond their random size multipliers

If Wesley can even fix it, anyway

[forest coral]

Not Wesley's job to fix it

Not any mod dev's job to fix jank with Central Config

[tight plank]

Mfs will take any oppertunity to needlessly shit on Central Config 🥀

I can gurantee you the same thing will happen in LQ

[forest coral]

Cus Central Config is a bad mod at it's core, I've seen all the stuff batby and mrov have had to say about it. I've seen the way it breaks easily just from some mods updating cus it hooks into things so invasively I'll be surprised if it survives the V70 update with all the changes coming with that update lol

[tight plank]

This is a bad take

Yes, it overrides things, but it doesn't break anything

The only thing it's broken so far is old bird nests when you increase the spawn curve of a moon

and even then, it's a niche bug(?) that Lass herself can't reproduce, and it's probably on Zeekerss or a simple mod incompatibility anyway

Did Cental Config have major bugs in the past? Yes, but they've been long fixed by now, so there's no reason to just drag Central Config down just because other people told you to when you haven't even tinkered with it yourself/yourself nowadays

It is literally the backbone of my modpack; it's what makes Confined Contract possible without needing to overcomplicate it (Like LQ), and it runs without issue, aside from those old bird nests I mentioned (Which I've already adapted to)

[forest coral]

The only reason it's as functional as it is now is cus Robyn basically looked at the Github repo a while back and helped rewrite most of the mod to modern standards, she described a lot of the way it was coded as ancient which leads me to believe the mod was done through ChatGPT or something originally and it's a miracle it ever worked

[near coyote]

im pretty sure this would just increase the chance of it happening

its one thing to lower the overall size, but only main entrance generating is a whole other thing

and can probably happen outside of that

[cobalt sage]

i stopped using CC when it actually started causing Black Mesa to fail to generate

it was specifically turning off loadstone's async dungen for Black Mesa only which broke the interior and forced it to generate facility instead

[forest coral]

I've never had this happen

If you resized it I would just leave it alone

[cobalt sage]

i also don't get how CC is any less complicated than LQ is

like don't they both have basically the same feature set

[near coyote]

me trying to tolerate the default size of grand armory

[near coyote]

thats not why i use it

[forest coral]

Grand Armory you can downscale

[near coyote]

im just too lazy to transfer all of my content configurations to it

[forest coral]

but I wouldn't touch anything in CC

[near coyote]

it already took a long time just doing LLL > CC

[forest coral]

Why convert?

[cobalt sage]

that's not a problem, it's just a point that narpy made

[forest coral]

LLL's config is fine to tweak

[cobalt sage]

like i don't see how LQ is any more complicated than CC

[forest coral]

and you're gonna run into far less issues

[near coyote]

LLL cant add some scrap items into spawn weight strings

[tight plank]

Nor entities

[near coyote]

it can basically only alter vanilla

[forest coral]

Why do you need to mess with this stuff?

[tight plank]

Because I like rebalancing moons and interiors to my liking

[near coyote]

for variety in spawns

[forest coral]

I like the way moon devs intend their moon balancing tbh

I don't need to f with or alter it and I've never felt the need

[tight plank]

Most of the time, I do not like a moon's balancing

I will change it to a way I find it to be, "better"

[cobalt sage]

there's nothing wrong with changing moon balancing

[near coyote]

its mostly due to like
haunted harpist's ghost plushie for example has a global spawn weight setting

[forest coral]

Oh I know

[near coyote]

CC overrides that

which is nice

(or LQ)

[cobalt sage]

if you're gonna make a modpack with very specific ideas in place for how to do it, go ahead

i just keep a priority list

try it in LLL first, if LLL can't do it then go to LQ to do it

like dungeon sizes

[near coyote]

i went to CC because i hadnt heard of LQ beforehand

[forest coral]

I hated LQ's UI tbh and trying to understand it

[near coyote]

and now im just too lazy to swap to LQ lmao

[forest coral]

I just don't care enough about that level of configurability

lol

[cobalt sage]

which is fine

[near coyote]

its fun to make more outlandish gimmicks i think

[forest coral]

Once I realized it was more trouble than it was reasonably worth I stopped caring

[cobalt sage]

but for those of us that have specific vision of what we wanna do, the configurability is better

i just used LQ cus my past experience with CC was bad

and i got used to the UI pretty quickly

[tight plank]

Another is that I don't like using a websites for my edits

I like remaining in the mod manager

[forest coral]

Yeah I get that I wanted to migrate my niche needs to LQ but it either couldn't do what I wanted or it felt overly complicated

[cobalt sage]

fair

[near coyote]

something i want to preface is im not attempting to take away from the original experience of moons i configure

[cobalt sage]

i'm not entirely opposed to it cus my mod manager gets slow when the config is too large

[near coyote]

i enjoy all of them in their default states, otherwise i wouldnt have the interest

[forest coral]

As someone who prefers json and set up reserved json slots I don't. Json's are generally more optimized and are less bad on boot times as well

cfg's suck

[tight plank]

The completely opposite for me

[cobalt sage]

jsons fucking suck for readability though

[tight plank]

It's hard for me to enjoy the default stats of a custom moon long-term

[cobalt sage]

and their errors are hard to use for debugging

[tight plank]

and as someone who has trouble reading, I agree

[forest coral]

Both of those points are fair, but for large mod packs the option to use json's for a handful of mods to trim down boot times could be nice

[tight plank]

Anyways I'm having trouble spelling because I have food in one hand lol

Sorry for the typos

[cobalt sage]

Ultimately boot times aren't that important to me

I'd rather the game runs at a stable fps

Which I still haven't been able to achieve

[forest coral]

I prefer both

[cobalt sage]

I'd probably go after boot times when I get fps stable

[forest coral]

I still dunno why TME for example introduces some hitches that don't exist without it

They don't even exist with BadAssCompany and that mod is like 2x more unoptimized

[cobalt sage]

I haven't noticed it with TME

[forest coral]

I have just when testing cus I removed it temporarily

[cobalt sage]

If anything it's enemy spawns that cause hitching

For me

[forest coral]

I also have my own issues with TME though like nearly all the emotes being copyrighted

[cobalt sage]

That's a fact of life for any emote mod

It's only really BetterEmotes that doesn't

[forest coral]

Yeah but I would prefer when you turn off copyrighted audio they play some sort of alternative audio

rather than pure silence

[forest coral]

It's more so cus most of the emotes are ripped from Fortnite and I have my own opinions about that too

Like while it's cool and all I worry it could be a problem

[cobalt sage]

how so

[forest coral]

I mean couldn't it be problematic legally?

Idk

[cobalt sage]

unless epic games goes out of their way to tell thunderstore about it i don't see it being a problem

which i doubt they will

[forest coral]

Yeah true

[cobalt sage]

they have bigger fish to fry

[near coyote]

the default dance would stay if anything

because its not actually epic games' creation

this is the source of the movements https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wMYs4m39dE

[tight plank]

https://www.tumblr.com/kekiiro/783003028952350720/whoa-whats-that

[torn sun]

does the seed do anything?

[tight plank]

Discovered fanart of Wesley's Moons on Tumblr

Even tho it wasn't tagged as such

I know for a fact the scrap item they're holding is from Asteroid-13 at least

[open violet]

maybe for just the "popular" emote mods, but a good few don't use copyrighted songs https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Nunchuk/All_Emotes_API_Emote_Packs/

I'd say it's about 50/50 in that list

[cobalt sage]

true

but i guess most people would be wanting popular emotes

which is why TME and badasscompany are the top 2

[open violet]

it's a shame, I feel like some of the better packs don't get any attention

creative critters emotes is really good

[granite lily]

I'm gonna do some work for lethal again
We'll see what happens

[desert jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-revitalization-revive-stand-up-gif-14886306883306762784

[willow shell]

I mean you haven’t been gone

Also love the repo mods

[gaunt rain]

Nope.

[near coyote]

actually now that i think about it

i dont believe LQ has settings to alter the min and max additive size

i might be wrong

[forest coral]

Hehe I feel like I'm partially to thank for this with all the fun we had for Whovian's birthday, excited to see what you put out

[near coyote]

slenderman

[ivory steppe]

How does Atlantica's flooding work with modded interiors? Does it always leave enough air to be survivable or do I need to test every interior to see if they're vertical enough?

[floral remnant]

oh yeah it is, wesley got fanart from the bike guy that's crazy

[floral remnant]

Nah it was thanks to me actually I kidnapped wesley and tied him up above a vat of acid and throw pin pricks at his eyes till he caved

[lapis cargo]

thanks monty

you're a national treasure

[red lion]

If I remember correctly, at the very least for Slaughterhouse which seems way less vertical than Atlantean Citadel, the flood stops at the level of the walkways in the big open rooms, and those seem a lot, lot less tall than the points at which the flooding stops in the citadel, so I'd say maybe? To an extent at least.

However if you're using an interior that's all horizootal and with only very few downloads I don't think the flooding would account for it, and you'd drown for sure.

[floral remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/milei-theofalso-minion-gif-1523388334133521382

[round dome]

it's made for the atlantean citadel, that interior has special rooms made just for that gimmick

[red lion]

Now I'm imagining Digital Hex on Atlantica...

It sounds like a death trap.

I wonder what it would look like with Liminal Pools though.

[warm wedge]

I am wondering, are you meant to restart (get a new save) or eject and keep the previous discovered moons when playing journey mode? I always made a new save, but i wasn't even aware you'd keep the discovered moons until now.

[desert jetty]

You are better off testing every interior

I think it has smth to do with the main entrance

I know for a fact that sewer interior from scoopys is nono

[unborn oasis]

From my testing, it seems Atlantica sets like, 3 points or so, that being the base level, the mid level, and then the peak the water sits at
For Atlantean Citadel, the first is the floor, second is a bit more up, 3rd is the top of the spiral stair rooms
It varies between interiors
Like in the Office or Art Gallery, it floods from base all the way up to the 2nd floor, with 3 floor being fine
Whereas in a much much shorter interior like Pool Rooms, it only floods to the top of the stairs, which is maybe at best 3 stories tall of spiral staircases, but usually 2

I think Tower, Office, Grand Armory, Art Gallery and Pool Rooms work with the flooding mechanic due to how they have some kind of consistent verticality you can take advantage of
Whereas flat interiors like Gray Apartments would be hell

I also like to include Slaughterhouse and the Flesh interior there since they have a cool visual effect outside and the water turns red inside too, but those interiors are much harder to find high-ground in

[desert jetty]

I once got the mineshaft there xD

It doesn't flood the main entrance, but everything else

[unborn oasis]

Christ

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-spin-fan-rope-gif-25248314

[gaunt rain]

using Oxygen mod on atlantica feels like cheating sometimes lol

[unborn oasis]

It definitely can yeah, depends how you balance it though
You can disable the mechanic on there specifically or make it drain faster etc.

[gaunt rain]

I left it on default
after one session of flooding and staying underwater, I barely got back to the ship on low oxygen

[ivory steppe]

Oh ok thanks that helps a lot actually

I'll probably do some testing, I imagine Generic Interiors backrooms is an instant game over as is

Since the entrance is presumably higher than the rest of the map, and can't be returned to

[willow shell]

Right? I love drowning

[willow shell]

Yes with the flooding it works on other interiors tho it always floods to a similar area on the interiors. Due to grand armory being so grand it is rarely a threat but you got to watch your footing as it is a long way down

[unborn oasis]

YEP, i wouldnt be surprised if it floods up to "main", that being the one-way entrance area you cant get back into

[desert jetty]

it doesn't always flood the main entrance but idk if that's hardcoded or what

mineshaft doesn't flood on the main entrance, but on sewer it does

actually sewer is almost an instant dead bc the water floods extremely fast there

[red lion]

Sewers has the main entrance be very high-up, that must be why the flood is so extreme.

[round dome]

it depends on where the root of the main entrance tile is. wherever that root is becomes the floor level of the flood. mineshaft for example has its root at the elevator's bottom

[near coyote]

interesting

[granite lily]

lmao

[crimson cypress]

hmm

[granite lily]

that's a rare one

[acoustic torrent]

Does anyone know where I could find the loot tables for the moons?

I want to make custom events for Brutal Company and want the spawn chances to match

[young sail]

maybe not big at all, well the smallest
but redesign Etern
now it's the whole point of the nutcracker

[rustic saddle]

had this happen on a Cubatres run

was not pleased

[rustic saddle]

by that i mean this

[teal aspen]

um quick question is wesleys maps on repo supposed to be broken? extraction points ain't opening

[quartz copper]

https://tenor.com/view/wombat-goint-to-debate-wombot-gif-7900749342002288354

Repo repo repo

[severe sierra]

If you're playing beta modded, don't

All custom maps are broken on beta rn

[desert jetty]

And if you are playing repo you could ask in the repo server

[teal aspen]

oooh

[granite lily]

Totally unrelated to a random discussion I am having

[cobalt sage]

the bracken has stumps, because he is a plant, duh

[young sail]

Wesley.

[granite lily]

hi

[young sail]

IT'S NOT HOOVES...

I'll eat you up

[granite lily]

Looks the way

[strange saffron]

Goat pseudohooves

[young sail]

NO

AAAAA

[strange saffron]

They are not hooves in the end

Just look alike

[young sail]

explain it to him uewhfiqhwef

[strange saffron]

Impossible

[fickle sand]

considering how silent he is it cant be hooves

would have to be hooves with a supressor

[granite lily]

fair enough

[lapis cargo]

they're definitely hooves

[floral remnant]

they're hooves

[lapis cargo]

They sound like hooves too when walking around

Shaped like hooves

[floral remnant]

that's what I was saying!!!

they look like hooves, sound like hooves and are used like hooves!!

[jagged sentinel]

its true

[tight plank]

I interpret them as elongated feet personally

[lapis cargo]

Nice way of saying hooves

[fickle sand]

maybe he had normal feet when he was born but some evil human chopped them off wich made him so angry to begin with and now hes basically walking on his bone that has some skin grown over it

[lapis cargo]

Aren't hooves bone with some skin sometimes grown on em?

[fickle sand]

hooves are much softer than bone tho

[cobalt sage]

they are the tips of the toe and are usually made of keratin

[fickle sand]

so i doubt it

[cobalt sage]

so not bone

[floral remnant]

they're just big thick nails

[cobalt sage]

ye

keratin is also the primary material of nails, and hair

[restive marlin]

i don't headcanon it as hooves but i can see why that can be interpreted that way

idk what it'd be tbh

[quartz copper]

Muuves

[crimson cypress]

xuuves

[near coyote]

theyre called zeeks because zeekerss modelled them

[quartz copper]

who up zeeking their zeek rn?

[near coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552415597221117954/1372927911132270723/speed.gif

why does this gif not work anymore

i hate you

[restive marlin]

probs it expired

discord doesn't store this stuff forever anymore

[near coyote]

discord sucks!!!!

[polar pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/mcqueen-gif-25874245

[floral remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-pirate-gif-give-this-man-a-give-this-man-a-true-give-this-matey-a-aye-gif-7627211564739902400

[young sail]

My curiosity went so far that I asked a doctor friend and a veteran, and they both said that it is not a hooves. He does not have what you would call a hoof, specifically a "nail" (there is no exact name for it idk)
If he were walking on metal, the sound would definitely be different, but this way it's invited and sounds like wood. Bracken are relatives of the Giant (according to Sigurd), they are both made of something woody, like Bracken's legs.
well those aren't hooves and if Zeeckers just didn't give it texture or shape i don't care if it doesn't then it isn't hooves.

these are simply deformed legs, especially since the hoof has the different anatomy and location
||-# oh god i'm so stuffy||

Also, Bracken is supposed to be quiet, and if he had hooves, he would sound much louder, which would break all logic

[floral remnant]

nuh uh

[young sail]

Yeah huh

[static sierra]

I have an issue with the insane asylum interior where i cant find loot anywhere like loot is very scarce

[polar bobcat]

this mod is mid and wesley stinks!!!!!!

[forest coral]

https://tenor.com/view/dummy-corner-judge-gavel-gif-15893581744758165231

[bitter crest]

releasing my hound

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191532897384017940/1373474356843515954/twitter_1918359726812803317.gif

[vivid sinew]

Hmm

[quartz copper]

adding a mobile turret or like some kind of cleaning drone would make this mod peak

[tight plank]

True!

[floral remnant]

so true

https://s1.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-160ad5419e6436.gif

IT WORKS IN THE PREVIEW FUCK

there you go

[tight plank]

What the fuck...

[mild steppe]

https://s1.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-160ad5419e6436.gif

squished Kuriimanjuu my beloved

[crimson cypress]

”omg its webley”

kid named ley:

wesley why did you web him

thats so evil

[granite lily]

[gaunt rain]

"those who are the most silent, farts the loudest"

[near coyote]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/856559902082990100/1118644332497481758/image0-16.gif

[near coyote]

@granite lily it is a bug that you cant close doors that a ghoul was occupying?

also RAINY LECARO IS A THING AND I HATE IT

[willow shell]

That’s your problem with Lecaro?

[near coyote]

i dont hate lecaro cause it can be rainy bru

its my favorite wesley moon

[willow shell]

Well I’m not saying you hate it but out of all the things that are on the map rainy is the worst thing?

I kinda wish there was more time to understand where the rocks were coming out of in mineshaft

[near coyote]

i just havent found lecaros gimmicks that bad

[willow shell]

I have been killed by a rock that was violently shoved into to me at Mach 10 speed when I hear a rumble in the ground that I can’t really tell where it is coming from

For about a couple seconds

Otherwise I like the loot and the nutcrackers

[granite lily]

nope

[granite lily]

When your screen quickly shakes while walking around in there, you are directly below it

[willow shell]

Ok I will double check next time I am on Lecaro

Thanks for the tip

[granite lily]

np

[near coyote]

i dont think ive ever noticed that

i just kind of always hear it

[keen burrow]

@granite lily

Is there no way to just unlock all the moons on the terminal w/o the progression

I tried to use the progression disable in the config but it didn't unlock any moons

unless this is the wrong thing

[granite lily]

You need to start a fresh save

[keen burrow]

Okay I'll try that!

Okay it worked tysm!

[desert jetty]

idk i just start running whenever i hear rumbling

[near coyote]

id also like to mention there are no sounds in the game that sound similar

you must be running some other mod that produces a similar noise

not even wesleys interiors do, except for the rubber rooms fake fire exit sections, but youre not gonna care about stalagmites at that area

[forest coral]

LMAO

[lapis cargo]

lemme guess, lethal company?

2.6 hours, sounds about right for wesley but cool

[polar pendant]

No audio because for some reason it sounded like shit, but just imagine the turret noise right after exiting

[near coyote]

whats funny is both of these were fake

you can tell by how much the fire exit is wedged into the wall

if its inside the wall more than these two then its a real one

[polar pendant]

I didn’t stand a chance 😔

[granite lily]

nope, one was real

There can only be one fake fire exit

[near coyote]

oh yeah one is wedged into the wall more lol

the frame i checked the text area was obstructing it a bit

and i just assumed it was also fake

but interesting

generally it appears like this though

[gaunt rain]

I love democracy

[floral remnant]

democracy is for bums and idiots who rely on other people's opinion for validation

[gaunt rain]

well said comrade

[rigid rover]

rediscovered a clip where slenderman and ducksong got into wesley's elevator lol

[harsh patrol]

is there a way to have moon specific scrap from wesleys spawn on all moons?

or any mods moon specific scrap to appear anywhere for that matter

[cobalt sage]

reassign its spawn weight in lethal quantities

adding it to global should be fine

[harsh patrol]

does this setting auto apply to everything? or do you have to do it per scrap item/moon?

[cobalt sage]

first off i don't know how to do it in the cfg version, i do it on the web editor
second, in the web editor if you do it in the global tab, it will apply to every moon whose parent is set to global

[harsh patrol]

sorry for the questions, but in the web editor if i just have scrap toggled in global does it enable all scrap everywhere or do I have to add them 1 by 1? I see the enable and add all buttons as well but theres no feedback when pressed so im unsure if they do anything

[cobalt sage]

I'd you check the rarity box and give it a value it will spawn everywhere (unless a specific moon already has it checked with a different value) you don't have to assign it in every moon.

[harsh patrol]

so i should go through and do it for all scrap items individually?

[harsh patrol]

Also cant find an explanation for what the S and H buttons mean

[drowsy moon]

Is it possible to complete Wesley's campaign all in one game? Or is the idea that you slowly work through it across multiple saves?

[desert jetty]

I think you have to finish wesley's campaing in one game, you can reload the save and continue from there but you can't do it in multiple saves

[drowsy moon]

Is there a way to make the moons reset between games then? I still have them unlocked from the previous save

[desert jetty]

Every time you make a new file they reset

[cobalt sage]

No, do it just in global

[harsh patrol]

im not saying do it in every different moon but there is no way to just set a number and enable every scrap item without adding rarity values manually from what i saw

[cobalt sage]

no you have to set the rarity manually for each scrap

because they don't come with preset global rarities

[near coyote]

its possible

i kinda want to go for it

[quartz copper]

permadeath campaign

1 run

[floral remnant]

I tried doing that on eclipsed only Wesley's moons

got all the apparatus moons unlocked and then stopped

most of em were kind of easy??? surprisingly enough

[near coyote]

the only eclipsed moons i know are really bad are asteroid-13 and utril

classic eclipsed spawn cycle of 5 on asteroid-13

utrils is 4

at least im pretty sure its 4

utril is not required though so

[floral remnant]

yeah and as you only need to go to once at the start of the round

[near coyote]

technically you can get really lucky and unlock cosmocos on asteroid-13

but that doesnt really help much since theres no way to unlock calist early

and youd get both cosmocos and calist unlocked from polarus

getting filitrios from motra is a good skip since you wouldnt need to go to oldred and trite

so best run would probably be just getting filitrios early from motra, then doing demetrica, then follow geofferys story and unlock cosmocos and calist

actually itd probably be better to do geofferys stuff first cause doing filitrios solo is ass without equipment

[floral remnant]

mhm!

i got heavy burnout from Wesley's moons honestly

I'll probably come back to it after a month or two, maybe?

but when i do I'd love to try to do it again

[steady hound]

Yeah me too 😔 Love the moons and the story but only ever explored the first few as we kept using different friends' saves. Should probably try what you've done and explore solo

[floral remnant]

oh nah I didn't explore solo

I was just always the host

that way we all saved our unlock progress

[near coyote]

solo with progression is demanding of a lot

technically you can play without wesleys interiors and have a fair bit of an easier time

but thats lame!!! 😡

[steady hound]

The interiors are a vital part of the experience 🙂‍↕️

[floral remnant]

yeah that's what we did

for eclipsed wesmoons I mean

really had no energy to deal with a gimmick (eclipsed) on top of gimmicks (modded interiors) on top of gimmicks (moon-specific interior mechanics)

esp since it was back when I got like 3 quotas back to back on only rubber rooms due to terrible rng one sesh

[near coyote]

i swear im the only person who can actually loot rubber rooms

i have issues with the loot circles, no doubt

but i genuinely feel like its the easiest interior to loot

[floral remnant]

it's not that it's not lootable

it just has. a lot of gimmicks

[near coyote]

it has the g h o u l doors

https://youtu.be/luB9PeSVCCA?si=lzK1RhUpBLeY8gic

[floral remnant]

also the cloud rooms, the rubberrooms dimension and the changing corridoors

I like all of those, it just gets tiring when I get it all the damn time LOL

[near coyote]

i just never go through the moving hallways

[floral remnant]

not the fault of anyone really it's just bad rng

[near coyote]

bad move generally

[floral remnant]

aren't they literally exactly the same as every other hallway until they move

[near coyote]

no, there is a way to tell if its one that will move or not, aside from the obvious brick wall that the non-passable side has

the colors of the walls are different, and they lack props/lights

[floral remnant]

good to know!

[near coyote]

pretty sure it also only spawns at main entrance

but dont quote me on that

[floral remnant]

yeah it spawns at main entrance, but it's not guaranteed

[crimson cypress]

cloud rooms?

[floral remnant]

those hallways that have clouds at the end where you're teleported to another hallway and then to another part of the interior

[crimson cypress]

oh yeah they caused issues with my friends before

someone once got like

softlocked

[floral remnant]

yeah you can get trapped in one of those where both tps send you to that same hallway

[forest coral]

If the cloud is black don't ever walk into it

[floral remnant]

Bbot uploaded a video on it, you can do some cool tricks to prevent that

[floral remnant]

https://youtu.be/_w8jw4pg628?t=633

here's the vid

it's timestamped when he makes a quick rundown of how those work

[floral remnant]

are they even different colors?

they always looked like dark red clouds

[forest coral]

Yeah if you use a Flashlight the one that sends you to the void is extremely dark and doesn't get lit up by the flashlight

[crimson cypress]

nah it wasnt

he genuinely just got tp bugged

he couldnt tp out

but i could

[forest coral]

Ah weird

[floral remnant]

nobody uses flashlights in my group

[near coyote]

you can actually walk into those

they dont kill you

you just go into a x3 or so looping hallway

and sent back

so its just a time waster

[forest coral]

I got stuck in a hallway once that led me to a dead end and we could never get back out

Going through one of those

[near coyote]

maybe old version bug idk

[forest coral]

so now I avoid them like the plague

[near coyote]

never happened when i tried

but theres no reason to go through them anyways

they just waste time as i said

[granite lily]

There is one really easy way to tell
The moving hallway is the only big hallway that has a corner

[granite lily]

You can always navigate through it without getting stuck
You just gotta know how

[near coyote]

@granite lily by the way

im not sure if this was a bug or not

but i opened a ghoul door from the side instead of in front

didnt realize it was a ghoul door and couldnt close it

but it didnt kill me

so can you not die if you opened it from the side and stay at the side?

[granite lily]

oh
should probably fix that

[near coyote]

i mean
eh

theyre not that hard to deal with anyways

[floral remnant]

ywah I sent a video on how to do that

[near coyote]

wesley has commented on the video

[floral remnant]

I know, lmao

I watched the thing in full and read the comments

I even commented on it

made a fucking typo though ofc LMAO

[near coyote]

grea work

[granite lily]

grea work

[restive marlin]

grea work

[severe sierra]

grea work

[crimson cypress]

grea work

[polar pendant]

grea work

[cobalt sage]

grea work

[desert jetty]

grea work

[fickle sand]

[forest coral]

grea work

[forest coral]

What mod even shows this?

That is definitely not Vanilla lol

[tight plank]

CentralConfig

You can change the descriptions of moons

[forest coral]

I thought there was some seperate mod that added the primary interior entry

[tight plank]

Not Terminal descriptions, though

Only the... monitor description? Do most people just call it the central monitor the Monitor?

[tight plank]

Nuh

[drowsy moon]

https://youtu.be/3xXiFq304o0 Came back to LC after not playing for a year. Loving all the new stuff in Wesley's mods. Can't wait to explore more.

[red lion]

What's this about a clouds room 👀 ? Never encountered that before I think.

[near coyote]

going off what narpy said, i made hyx's primary interior toy store with centralconfig also

idk why theres just something about the main assimilated moon the overseer resides at having a toy store before it happened being disturbing

[near coyote]

just now learned the haunted apparatus thing is harder during eclipsed

well "harder", it wasnt really that much different

but still cool

[floral remnant]

you know the foggy padded rooms?

[granite lily]

Lmao

[worn junco]

@near coyote nice banner man

also also can anyone confirm the cursed tape on galetry does absolutely nothing but explode if you insert it ?

[near coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-jaw-drop-shook-blob-face-speechless-gif-1985891391803468575

[red lion]

Oooooh!
Always called the fog "static" instead of clouds.

I thought people were talking about clouds drawings on the walls, like how there's a monster Pikachu one.

[near coyote]

why the fuck do nutcrackers have to do this shit

i hate this game

[bitter crest]

hows your knees?

[crimson cypress]

~2000 hours

[near coyote]

almost 2800 buddy

get it right

[pure imp]

they instantly start moving in the direction their feet are facing if they're smacked before they've spotted you, so this IS avoidable.
I feel your pain tho... I've had this happen to me too many times before I figured this out

[near coyote]

no i know why it happens

its just fucking irritating

[pure imp]

valid af

upsets me they can't be ran over

[crimson cypress]

Nutcrackers least buggy enemy

[pure imp]

hoping for a mod out there that fixes every killable enemy to be vulnerable to the cruiser

[near coyote]

i like how eterns bullshit spawn curve isnt the thing thats been killing me whenever i actually get to etern and is instead just pure bullshit that fate brings upon me
you can literally hear me trying to scroll upwards to swap to the shovel, and see i was able to scroll down but not up, LITERALLY FOR NO REASON

this session is cursed

[gaunt rain]

and I thought I'm the insane one having 1200 hours since december 2023

[lapis cargo]

i have over 1000 hours of pure testing and mod making

and maybe a couple hundred playing

[near coyote]

lol holy shit

solo motra run

[vapid crow]

||I tried to call the number on the "Missing Person Paper" on the Filitrios tape, but the last few numbers are so distorted I can't read them, also is there an easter egg for calling the number or am I just wasting my time||

[crimson cypress]

||its wesleys real phone number trust (no idea)||

[vapid crow]

||Should I say what I think the number is, I don't want to leak someones actual phone number||

||I found a "secret" in one of the tapes called "Protocal 5", does that mean anything||

[desert jetty]

||very weird for wesley to put his REAL phone number on the modpack, so i dont think its a problem if you send it||

[vapid crow]

||So far, the number is 353-536-145 ??? One of the last numbers is a 2||

[quartz copper]

||beanie is stinky ||

[granite lily]

||It's not a real number||

[willow shell]

The field kick of the year

[vapid crow]

oh

that is dissapointing

[near coyote]

this shit be like the real freddy fazbears pizzeria phone number

(real no fake)

[willow shell]

Lies it is the secret lawn care service number for alcatras adavance lawn care service

[vapid crow]

||Boo||

[near coyote]

ALCaTRAS:
Advanced
Lawn
Care
and
Trading
Rich
Agriculture
Spaces

[near coyote]

ok loud

but like
what
the actual FUCK is happening to me

wesley

did you make the pencil not able to kill anything

https://tenor.com/view/half-sword-gif-164259582336575534

[desert jetty]

Purple this is your punishment for all the people you've made suffer with your modpacks

😈

[granite lily]

I don't remember when
But I checked
And yes
Yes I did

[near coyote]

i will never support you after this decision

the pencil is peak

and you ruined it

💔

[granite lily]

I believe the reason was because it's a rather common item and it's easily bought in the shop

[near coyote]

well idk
you can buy two better weapons on day one
and get stun batons from both motra and asteroid-13, which are even better better weapons

[granite lily]

I'll just add
"The painful pencil"

[forest coral]

Ah so the pencil can only harm players lmao that is genius

[polar pendant]

Lmao an unsharpened pencil that does no damage and a sharpened one that does damage would be kind of funny

Or it’s sharpened but there’s a chance the tip breaks off and then it does no damage

[gaunt rain]

So apparently, I can john wick some derpy creature such as lunxara
Brilliant wesley!

[forest coral]

Oh yeah just for calling me derpy

https://tenor.com/view/dummy-corner-judge-gavel-gif-15893581744758165231

[gaunt rain]

Hihihihihihi

[gaunt rain]

Well you kinda do look like necoarc

[forest coral]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-sakura-anime-spray-gif-22585378

[gaunt rain]

Wrong server bozo

[forest coral]

Doesn't mean it's not a threat to ban you from my server

[gaunt rain]

[rustic saddle]

https://imgur.com/gj8caYR

Cu-buh-tres

[cinder spear]

[cinder spear]

wezzlee can u pwease make the oldred radio message quieter. filter the audio with a compressor / limiter so its not as obnoxiously ear-destroying. I know magoroku is a loud guy but the message doesnt need to be that loud

[lapis cargo]

wesley magnify the sound for tomato bird exclusively

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-scarab-assyst-gif-9837798423909404507

[restive marlin]

tomato bird?

[rigid rover]

yeah mu, don't you know about Tomato Bird?

[restive marlin]

what the fuck

[crimson cypress]

flirb

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pet-steal-food-tomato-gif-8252697

[near coyote]

@granite lily

[granite lily]

lmao okay

[gaunt rain]

LMAO
I would've run forward because the range could be fine

[crimson cypress]

the pole of quantum tunneling bullets:

[bitter crest]

wesley's moons journeys update came out 4 months ago

[crimson cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-staring-cat-gif-20275090

its only been 4 months?

[floral remnant]

i was bout to say

[jagged sentinel]

kinda feels like its been longer lol

https://tenor.com/view/care-garn-garn47-47-funny-gif-3665055643533589689

[cobalt sage]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid4-mgs4-solid-snake-old-snake-becoming-old-gif-24179307

[young sail]

Eclipse Asteroid traumatized

[balmy jewel]

Hey does anyone know if special hazards like ||lone listener|| and ||oldreds bombs|| will ever be converted to normal hazards instead of prefabs so they can be configured and used on other moons too?

I don't know if you guys still care about spoilers it's been forever since I've talked here

[near coyote]

well for one oldreds bombs were never a spoiler

oldred is one of the og moons and people knew about those

and im not wesley but probably not

he also doesnt seem to want to make a separate scrap mod

[floral remnant]

mostly cuz they're a shit ton of acraps

I feel like wes should consider making lone listeners AT LEAST a separate mod

[near coyote]

i need to record the rare screaming voiceline

cause its funny

[round dome]

spoilers aren't hidden anymore anyways

[balmy jewel]

I was just being safe

[stray steppe]

I hate the|| "Fun" button on Oldred||

[gaunt rain]

why?
it's fun 🥲

[vapid crow]

It burns my retinas

I'd rather drown in the oil

[pure imp]

10/10 banana hiding spot

[rigid rover]

the what now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316522381870891119/1375866219822841977/fadding-cat.gif

[stray steppe]

Behind the main building

DONT DO IT OF YOU'RE SENSITIVE

[rigid rover]

wait a minute

does it do what i think it does

:D

[tight plank]

Epileptic*

I think that's what you mean, anyway

[stray steppe]

That's the word I was looking for

Thanks

[tight plank]

Yw

[near coyote]

@granite lily uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[granite lily]

huwhuhwuh

lmao

[rigid rover]

oh uh so there's a very weird bug on Celest with the Skybox in the Poltergeist mode

It seems the projection is misplaced

[tight plank]

Wtf

This shit looks like a photoshopped image

It's so surreal

[near coyote]

junic

[granite lily]

It follows the player
Guess the poltergeist cam is something else

[rigid rover]

odd

[red lion]

The skybox following the player is a cool trick, I had no idea it was that.

I assume it was more cost-effective to do so than to have the skybox genuinely surround the huge empty space.

[fickle sand]

I don't remember having that problem in my pack tho

[floral remnant]

yeah this's been here forever

[floral remnant]

it puts the player camera off in some weird place oob above two white planes

I think...

[round dome]

that's where players are stored normally when they don't exist i think

[floral remnant]

oooo

[near coyote]

junic (again)

[rigid rover]

Empra's Golden Jimothy, fine-tuned and of the highest quality, fit for the emperor's demands.

(just a funny idea)

[near coyote]

loud

[willow shell]

Bro I feel hurt by that and I’m not even playing

That nutcracker got them special purchased extendo legs off the nutcracker market

[granite lily]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/jeR5KcSzeZTk1y6o_?invite=cr-MSwyc2QsMjI5OTY0ODMz
Good times

wait

wrong clip

epic

ehem

[near coyote]

your laugh makes me smile

its so contagious

[gaunt rain]

I always saw his laugh sounding like a dying pig on the slaughter 💀 (no offense LOL)
but yeah I agree

[restive marlin]

holy shit so many masked LMAO

[lapis cargo]

someone get wesley an inhaler

bro decreases global oxygen levels by the minute

[willow shell]

avg eclipsed day on asteriod-13

[restive marlin]

also yeah

he could do the most ridiculous thing and get me killed because of it and i wouldn't be able to be mad at him for more than like a second

[willow shell]

That why I use cruiser in the late game if I go there for some reason

[restive marlin]

it's impossible to not find something funny when he's laughing LMOA

[gaunt rain]

good one LMAO

[bitter crest]

so thats why ive felt short of breath that day

https://c.tenor.com/VqpVJ4RcBrAAAAAC/bryan-cranston-malcolm-in-the-middle.gif

[worn junco]

hilarious

[near coyote]

@granite lily https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1339708340468711424/1376752255167889618/2025-05-26_21-35-07_-_Trim.mp4?ex=683677f4&is=68352674&hm=53795a2996e1a8e53e7fd5ebaf055b03f367db73ed7fd8bcbf897d70c2196edb&

[granite lily]

LMAO

[willow shell]

“I am blasting off again” said the guy in the insane asylum

[jagged sentinel]

love the instant save scum lol

[near coyote]

didnt save scum, i completely restarted

trying to kill the overseer solo without save scums the past 4 days

[jagged sentinel]

oh xd

still that was so fast lmao

[near coyote]

i reacted to the landmine beep, not the lifesupport offline text

[forest coral]

LMFAO when was this? XD

[rustic saddle]

this is the most average eclipsed asteroid-13 experience

[rigid rover]

Does the ||fun button on Oldred|| still work with making everything ||rainbow||? for me it doesn't seem to do that.

[desert jetty]

For me it does!

[rigid rover]

That's odd. All it does for me is show the ||disco ball||

[floral remnant]

its more noticeable inside

[rigid rover]

is it?

all i see is the usual oldred.

bland skies, all that

[floral remnant]

hm then it might just be broke for you

are you on standalone oldred or full pack oldred

[near coyote]

you need to add granny

[rigid rover]

oldred moment

[rigid rover]

full pack

[balmy jewel]

What all does disabling journey mode do? (I can't look at config rn)

[desert jetty]

Mostly disables the progression

[gaunt rain]

Why is this thing so big?

[forest coral]

It's just dropped floating so it looks larger

[tight plank]

Pluh

[gaunt rain]

Pluh

[quartz hedge]

Wesley

man

Wesley

do you have like

a commission page for interiors?

[near coyote]

what is bro cooking

[granite lily]

I don't have one

[desert jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[near coyote]

@granite lily i dont think the dropship properly lets items come out on motra

ok no it does but i dont think the first item you buy does

[desert jetty]

It works fine for me

Big dropship but the items drop fine

[rigid rover]

Does there happen to be a place where I can find out what weathers are allowed on certain wesley moons?

[floral remnant]

the ts wiki maybe?

[lapis cargo]

tb wanted a script like this a while ago so i made it

[near coyote]

new sell strat

anyways

i made it to calist

died to royal app parkour because im fucking bad lmao

[willow shell]

what am I looking at

[willow shell]

oh same

[near coyote]

you bring the cruiser into the museum

and then sell faster

its peak

[crimson cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cattitude-catitude-cat-attitude-gif-21688236

[willow shell]

I dont know about that

[desert jetty]

oooor you could go to gordion

[near coyote]

nuh uh i had to input thingies into the thingie

[desert jetty]

gordion and then galetry!

still faster than galetry

[near coyote]

oh boy i love getting a desmond's note 3 SID

its so peak

[crimson cypress]

i can confirm, no apparatus to be seen here

[willow shell]

NOOOOOO MORE APPYS ARE NEEDED

LIKE THE CRYSTAL APPY

[young sail]

Hyx aand Atlantica redraw

[cinder spear]

A couple times now I've had players get the classic inventory glitch while picking up notes on oldred.

[cobalt sage]

The one where you can't move your hotbar at all right

[cinder spear]

yup. cant interact or swap items

[cobalt sage]

do you have testaccount fixes

[cinder spear]

nah i have high quota fixes

[cobalt sage]

testaccount fixes has a bind to do a manual inventory fix, its default on ,

[polar pendant]

Not to advertise my own mod, but I've been made aware that Wesley has a Heavy Flashlight and Spotlight item. I think the heavy uses the same light as the pro (or very similar), but if you've ever used the spotlight, you might have noticed that if you pocket it while it's on, then the light seems to revert to that of the pro flashlight. That's unfortunately a limit to the vanilla game, but I made a mod for one of my flashlight-like items that gets around this. https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Sniper1_1/FlashlightToolLoader/ This mod allows all modded flashlights to project the expected light from the player when the flashlight is on and pocketed. Again, not really trying to advertise, but thought some people here might find that useful.

[crimson cypress]

cool

[near coyote]

OBS wasnt recording my mic but basically i was like
"WHAT- WHY?!?!"
"GO!! JUMP!!"
"DUDE WHAT THE FUCK?!?!!?!"

[lament reef]

Volume warning lol

[near coyote]

this has my audio

[lament reef]

POV: You hear the bloodcurdling screams of rage from purple but you're focused on making fat scores in arcade mode so you don't register it

[near coyote]

also asteroid-13 run

[polar pendant]

I feel like I shouldn’t be laughing but I kind of can’t help it. That’s really unfortunate.

Also, how’d Alex’s voice get recorded and not your own? He seems to be in an entirely different game so it can’t even be the ingame proximity chat.

Oh, over Discord or something?

[near coyote]

i had OBS recording my entire desktop audio

[cobalt sage]

Don't you love when recorders just forget your mic source exists

[rustic saddle]

Wesley do you fancy telling us the Old Bird’s spawn probabilities in Grand Armoury

Or activation I should say

[near coyote]

my solution

[round dome]

booooriiiing

[crimson cypress]

I’ve never had the birds wake up

im lucky ig

[floral remnant]

no this is based

[floral remnant]

i had em wake up like every day of on three separate quotas it was messed up : (

[crimson cypress]

the flean counters the machine

they fear me so they stay schleep

[rigid rover]

@granite lily
On the final day.

[near coyote]

i mean

why did you go towards it

[rigid rover]

I was trying to see where it was so that I could know if I was being targeted

[near coyote]

it doesnt target

they slam down at specific areas always

dependant on where they pop out from

[granite lily]

They turn towards players

[near coyote]

buh????

never noticed them do that

[granite lily]

It is a thing they do

[willow shell]

Yea they try slapping you out of the air

also they often slap my cruiser 😦

[near coyote]

what the fuck is bro cooking

[willow shell]

Cooking up a catastrophe thats what

[eternal onyx]

I have a question how do you get to Lecaro's inteirior? I've been stuck trying to figure that out. The only place I can go is the mine cart track and where it is broken you explode. There is nowhere else to go unless I'm super stupid

[pure imp]

The rocks right in front of the ship can be smashed with a shovel, there should be a free one on the ground in that spot too

[eternal onyx]

Thanks. I wish the mod page had a spoiler or some section. I'm also stuck on Gloom and don't know what to do with the dynamite. I like the campaign idea but the execution is more frustrating than fun (granted i play solo so a lot is more stressful)

Am I supposed to pick up the dynamite because I'm unable to

[pure imp]

heading from the ship, if you go down the slope and head left you'll find a shack with a little detonator in front of it that can be interacted with. It'll open up some fire exits while making main inaccessible (that last part may have been changed, I don't remember)

[dawn sluice]

where ||new map support||

https://tenor.com/view/manul-pallas-cat-fence-outside-gif-26972563

[copper sparrow]

the new terminal camera doesnt recognize wesley's moons terrain 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[copper sparrow]

never

[dawn sluice]

haha funny thing aboutttt that

they are images

[copper sparrow]

wesley retired 5 years ago

[dawn sluice]

wesley has to hand make those images

for every

single

one of his moons

[copper sparrow]

i thought that was generated by itself

lol

[dawn sluice]

no lmao

dude has 30 something moons i feel so bad for him

😭

[dawn sluice]

iirc this is adamance?

i forget

[copper sparrow]

zeekers reworking the only thing that didnt need a rework 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[copper sparrow]

dont know

didnt cosmocos have like a big ass human watcher

before all the progression history stuff

[dawn sluice]

what

[copper sparrow]

yeah

it had a big watcher

that watched like a part of the map

when it came out

[dawn sluice]

ion remember 💔

oh fuck

wait

[copper sparrow]

ur not og

[dawn sluice]

hows cosmocos gonna work

if the terrain is

images

[copper sparrow]

thats a good question lol

god bless wesley

[dawn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-crushed-meme-lady-gaga-spongebob-gif-13980278704109625417

doing this to zeekers tomorrow

[copper sparrow]

i hate the rubber rooms

[cobalt sage]

i have a feeling something will come out to auto generate these images

[near coyote]

some advice

[copper sparrow]

shut the door

lol

[near coyote]

if you go up to a door and it doesnt immediately have the interact prompt, then it is a ghoul door

[copper sparrow]

yeah that was my first time in the rubber rooms

so fun

so scary

[near coyote]

also afaik they have a cap of two

ive never seen more than two

but may be wrong about that

[copper sparrow]

yeah also had some friends play it and I told them about the ghoul doors and how they appeared

then this guy told me

''oh so its this one!''

one E press and hes cold to the touch

[dawn sluice]

I fucking hope so

[fickle sand]

it looked like zeekers didnt allign this map lines properly on dine for example

looked fine on other moons tho, ive only noticed it cuz of the map from imperium lol

i would prefer it if there would be a minimap mod that just brings the imperium map visuals into the terminal map and just removes those stupid lines again lol

[crimson cypress]

100%

all the map changes were cool except for that abysmal line diagram

diagrams like those exist irl but they use colors to show height variation

And these ones dont

meaning the lines are actually pretty useless because you cant tell if someone is going down or up super well unless you memorized the contours of the map

[forest coral]

I kinda liked the more simplistic radar design we had previously tbh

the new one is nice but idk

it doesn't have the same vibe

[pallid ferry]

on paper, the new one sounds significantly better for performance

[forest coral]

performance in the new update is way better

Also Solar Flare works with the new radar map it's really cool too

[pallid ferry]

but yeah the only change id opt for with the new one is lighter/darker shades of green to emphasise altitude, cause yeah what "F"leanie said.

[abstract heron]

i remember i made a cool debug terrain tool for DOSCOMPANY and im curious if some of this could be used to generate an equivilent solution for the lines

wouldn't be 1:1 but

[pallid ferry]

Ooh, that's cool.
Do you think this is something you'd have built into LLL, as means of generating map images during runtime, during scene loading or something? Or would moon makers have to manually set stuff up themselves.

[abstract heron]

nothing i solve related to v70 will be in lll

if it releases itll be in another mod

but yes this would all be at runtime, same with the screenshots in #1193461151636398080

[pallid ferry]

aye cap'n

[polar pendant]

after all, what's one(two?) more dependencies?

[red lion]

I am really hoping some old, v60-ish maps are still going to work in v70.

Don't want to lose Plains.

[polar pendant]

I’m guessing they would work, but the monitor’s map view is still kind of up in the air for all modded maps I believe

[crimson cypress]

oh god someone needs to save us from this hell of manual maps

if you dont release any tools for v70 it would be nice if someone picked it up to make a runtime outdoor map generator

people with lots of moons probably dont want to have to manually export their meshes to blender and spend all the time to cut out the scanlines and screenshot it

[abstract heron]

forsure

(this is exactly the kind of reason why a project like this should have a dedicated programmer)

[crimson cypress]

i suppose we just need to wait then

ig modded moons wont have outdoor visuals for the map for a bit

and then someone might make a mod to add some form of runtime for it

and then we will be back to normal

(I hope)

[polar pendant]

Lunxara shared this #modding-general message which claims to revert the map back to v69’s appearance. We could use that in the meantime.

Honestly, I’d like to see the new system (with some way of doing the lines at runtime, even from Zeekerss because this is something that seems like it could be a pain for future vanilla map development) but make the old top-down camera view a ship upgrade. Let’s utilize that system a bit more!

[north flax]

Is wesleys moons broken for v70?

[bitter crest]

this is so BUNS

ZEEKERS WHATS WRONG WITH YOU

[young sail]

Why not, it's good
he added simplifications, there should be complications too. This map is more complicated, but now, it looks really realistic. there won't be a super cool map on such old monitors

[rich quartz]

oh dude this update is tortuous

torturous 😭

[abstract heron]

its not good

almost no modders are gonna actually implement it

[rich quartz]

look obvs a dev should be able to do whatever they want to their game buuuuut i kinda feel like this change specifically takes a crap on a lot of the mods that were keeping the community alive for months

[abstract heron]

i dont think mods we're keeping the community alive tbh

communities been pretty dead

i dont think its bad cuz it fucks over modders but imo its just a bad way to do that effect

[polar pendant]

It’s not really the aesthetic people dislike (well, maybe some), but there’s like no feasible way for modders to do this to their moons because it’s essentially manually done. Imo Zeekerss is going to have to do his manual method any time he makes a new map/changes the layout of one. Feels bad for even vanilla tbh. Got to be some shader wizardry to draw the lines and stuff where neighboring vertices have elevation differences of something.

[polar pendant]

Wesley alone has almost 30 moons and 4 interiors. Manually doing all that is going to be a version of Hell

[rich quartz]

i mean i obviously can’t speak for anyone else but me and my friendgroup but i know we wouldn’t have even touched the game in the past year if not for mods, and i do know a lot of people who basically only play with some level of mods… and honestly my issue with it isn’t just “this update screws modders” it’s “this update screws modders for almost no gain”

[strange saffron]

and I'm going to force him to do it

[abstract heron]

based on download numbers community is comparatively pretty dead

[strange saffron]

but I wont have fun either, still need to do it for all of mine lol (released ones +12 unreleased)

[polar pendant]

RIP Wesley 🪦

[polar pendant]

And you apparently

[rich quartz]

i mean it’s not like vanilla lethal company has stayed popular while mod downloads have gone down
lethal company in general has just gotten less popular
i can only speak from anecdotal experience but i genuinely haven’t seen a single person i know play vanilla in months

[polar pendant]

I’ve only got just under 10 moons and 1 interior. I do not feel I can do this. The interior maybe. Outside, I fear I’ll have to let someone find a workaround, use a mod that reverts the radar, or just accept a blank radar screen

[rich quartz]

mod that reverts the radar save us

[polar pendant]

At least this is already a thing. Haven’t tested it, but it exists. A part of me wants to consider making a mod that keeps the new but adds the old as a ship upgrade but I really can’t even consider taking on that until I get my current stuff working again. I don’t even know where to begin with that kind of mod.

[rich quartz]

this update is def a bit frustrating cuz like

ok like many people i’ve been on the repo wave lately but i’ve been kinda nostalgic for my modded lethal company

and it’s just like… great to know i won’t be able to play modded on the future updates probably, at least not with the same modset and shit

[abstract heron]

why not

[rich quartz]

….because map creators are saying they might not want to make their maps compatible with the changes?

anything added by the new update is likely less valuable to me than any map that doesn’t get updated

[abstract heron]

an automated solution will be made

dw

[balmy jewel]

I could see something happening where mods stay on v69 if workarounds aren't found, where other games modding communities stay on certain versions and even keep making new mods for older versions

[abstract heron]

no chance

its not that crazy

[balmy jewel]

I just meant if it was

But if automated solutions are possible it shouldn't be that bad

[strange saffron]

Oh?

I wasnt aware thats neat!

[abstract heron]

i mean

not specifically

just like

it can be done

so it should be done

[balmy jewel]

It's more like something that will have to happen for modding to continue as it is

[strange saffron]

I was trying to not spoil myself before playing it this time

[abstract heron]

worstcase can just revert the changes its not a big deal

[balmy jewel]

Fair enough

[desert jetty]

So it's not a big deal?? Is it just the map that broke??

[lapis cargo]

the terminal just isnt showing the outlines in terrain for custom maps yeah

[strange saffron]

Babty can you explain how it is actual done? Like I know it is done with blender but I wonder how its actually added in

[abstract heron]

its a sprite

[lapis cargo]

it's just a plane texture above the map afaik

[strange saffron]

Ah so technically we could just paint our own as well lol

[strange saffron]

I actually like it. I have some ideas what I could do with a sprite like that

[polar pendant]

I will say I think I like the look. Idk if better or worse than the old, but I think I like the look. I do not like what it currently means for modded moons/interiors is all

[chilly ledge]

also, company on radar have some red noise, so it's using some shader for that

need to look into

[bitter crest]

i think it should have a different color depending on how elevated is the terrain

[polar pendant]

Yeah, atm I don’t believe there’s a way to know if the elevation change is an increase or decrease which is kind of unhelpful

[dusty night]

So how hard is it for mods to be updated to 70?

[cobalt sage]

Some just need to be recompiled

[gaunt tangle]

the fact every moon needs its own "radarification" hurts.

[cobalt sage]

Others had entire functions changed so they need a patch

[dusty night]

is the new radar better tho?

[cobalt sage]

No

I'd say it's worse on purpose

[dusty night]

whuh?? I havent dived in yet but everything i read sounded great

[gaunt tangle]

not for moon makers

[near coyote]

the contour imo is whatever

im not really a fan of it

the facecam is basically useless

only really tells you if someone is dead or masked

which funnily enough, i dont like

the being dead part is whatever, the player visual on the radar actually changes its shade if the person is dead

but straight up seeing if someone is masked ruins one of the things about masked imo

for newer players

and then theres the radar straight up being disfunctional if the interior is mineshaft

which i dont like at all

[dusty night]

as if i needed any more reason to hate that interior

[gaunt tangle]

all he needed to do was add funni monster and interior tiles...

[dusty night]

hey, cmon now, that kind of attitude I dont like. What if people said that about your creative work?

[near coyote]

i think mineshaft is overhated, i also believe zeekerss has altered loot circle stuff for the industrial area

ive been seeing more loot in it in v70

[cobalt sage]

I'll hope that mineshaft starts working with it when he overhaul it

[near coyote]

maybe its placebo but it seems too consistent

but the radar not working for mineshaft is a bad change imo

at first i thought it was happening cause i had ghost girl

now that would be cool