Wesley's Moons/Interiors/Weathers/Variants/General/Mrov

[willow shell]

||If you are good with the cruiser you can break the bee hives on the map to get more bee hives to throw on top of the cruiser||

[grave garnet]

someone just tell me where ||junic|| is

it was the best moon i need it back

[willow shell]

Ok

||you can find a log outside by main entrance on asteroid 13 it has red flares by it grab the log and use it at the power station on asteroid to log it or go back to gal to log it.||

😦

[grave garnet]

wait wrong thumbs

i’m sorry 😭

[willow shell]

Nah you good

[strange saffron]

GGs!

|| fire - water - fire - water ||

|| they also have their own loggable item icon||

|| 🌋🗺️||

No, you have to look around on moons

[tired monolith]

Wait when you die your moon tapes get reset? I thought it was supposed to save them?

[forest coral]

they do get saved

[tired monolith]

I had Asteroid-13 and Infernis, but after my run ended the routes were locked again

[lapis cargo]

run ended as in fired/deleted save?

[tired monolith]

Yeah

[lapis cargo]

then yeah it reset them

[tired monolith]

I thought they were supposed to save between runs

[forest coral]

Yeah if you delete the save they get deleted

you have to keep the save if you wipe

[tired monolith]

We haven't even backed out, we just got fired and the routes reset

[forest coral]

Are you using LCBetterSaves without LCBetterSavesFix?

[lapis cargo]

maybe, but always reset with my gorup

[forest coral]

Cus that would cause this

[forest coral]

Some issue with Glitch's pack cus it's never done that for me

[abstract heron]

if you wipe and still have them that's a bug with lcmoddatalib from the glance i gave the code

it should reset afaik

[lapis cargo]

thats what i was leaning towards just logically too yeah

[forest coral]

No you're supposed to keep them cus of JLL I believe, Wesley said it's intended to not lose them

[tired monolith]

That was probably it then, thanks

[forest coral]

The only time you should lose them is if you delete the save

[abstract heron]

if dying isn't meant to reset it but making a new save is meant to reset it that's a very notable inconsistency with the rest of the game

[lapis cargo]

from an earlier conversation i guess there's a bit of a bug somewhere, i guess with how difficult the journies are they should probably be saving inbetween runs

[forest coral]

Ah I see

[tired monolith]

I appreciate that being the case, it means you can replay them with different people

[abstract heron]

If wesley wants them to save outside of the context of the run he needs something LLL doesn't provide rn

the built in lock and hidden saving is tied to save which imo is very consistent with the game

failing quota hard resets the save outside of a few select things and im pretty sure even those are inconsistent in a way that implies it may be bugged/unintentional

afaik failing quota should be equivilent to making a new save

[lapis cargo]

yeah that makes sense, JLL would need its own save file that stores this and tells LLL what to unlock/keep locked when you enter a save (which is honestly what i thought was happening lol)

[abstract heron]

nah i added saving for lll isRouteLocked and isRouteHidden a few updates ago

[forest coral]

Well they've always stayed unlocked and unhidden for me if we unlocked them before a team wipe

[abstract heron]

lcmoddatalib has a way to save to the global save but that has to be like, used for that to work

[forest coral]

and Wesley told me that was intended so idk lol

[lapis cargo]

icic

[forest coral]

I also saw a few people say they got their moons to stop getting reset when they added LCBetterSavesFix cus they were using LCBetterSaves without it so not sure

[abstract heron]

based on what im reading it seems like LCModDataLib may have a bug that happens to partially align with Wesley's intended mechanic

[forest coral]

Yeah it's very possible

But since he considers it intended it's a bug that should stay I guess lmao

[strange saffron]

Im pretty sure thats the case / Wesley just went with “eh its probably better to have this bug cuz of the amount of content”.
Im just guessing we havent really talked about this part :/ anyway, have you been playing it?

[abstract heron]

Not yet unfortunately, keen to play it with my friends once we're all free

[strange saffron]

Hope you all get the chance soon! And uh.. try to not spoil yourself too much

[lapis cargo]

so what do i do after i kill all 200 collectable s1ckboy plushies? is that what unlocks the final moon?

[tight plank]

If I'm understanding this correctly, I hope this is kept

I really don't wanna be punted down all the way back at the beginning

[strange saffron]

It unlocks my wrath

[abstract heron]

it wouldn't be too hard to intentionally support saving it to general savedata

[lapis cargo]

good

[strange saffron]

Oh Im sure it would be managable but Jacob and Wesley would probably have to talk about this

[tight plank]

Question: How do hoarding bugs work on ||Acidir||?

Despite not being in any of the moon's outdoor rosters, they still consistently spawn outside

[lapis cargo]

i dont think i noticed any when playing there, but probably JLL enemy spawners in specific places

[tight plank]

I see

[quiet lantern]

||oh yeah seems like if you unlock oldred it comes with fission and junic comes with gratar||

[strange saffron]

||spoilertag||

[quiet lantern]

my bad

[lapis cargo]

so thats why that happened with us

[strange saffron]

All good ^^

[lapis cargo]

straight to lynching

this s1ckboy 😔, violent

[strange saffron]

Only if its you

[lapis cargo]

d3adboy

[strange saffron]

[velvet drum]

failing quota should not mean a full save file wipe. Things like story logs and creature data should be kept across multiple runs. i consider route unlocks in the same vein as those where they should persist between runs on the same file. While i agree things like cruiser persistance is clearly a bug. keeping that terminal data is imo clearly intentional.

[lapis cargo]

im getting confused on the meaning of should here, are yall speaking opinion or what actually happens/you expect to be happening ingame?

[velvet drum]

Also i want to state this clearly again because there still seems to be confusion about this stuff.

JLL does not interact with the save file in any way. It does not save or read any data to your file. it's just tools for mod creators.

LLL handles saving level hidden and locked states.

And the combined moon pack contains a small dll responsible for saving if you have unlocked the ending or not. and that's basically it.

[forest coral]

Yeah that was my own fault, but thank you for clarifying that JLL doesn't touch save stuff. I wasn't sure if it did or not since the bulk of Wesley's Journeys is using JLL

[abstract heron]

I believe story logs, cruiser purchase and bestiary logs being saved is a thing that currently happens in the game. From memory though i've read reports that leaving and rejoining post-game over can reset those but due to the mix of these things being saved being more or less easter eggs and stuff like late company getting into the mix imo it's not 100% definitive on how much of it is intent, considering these are very select exceptions.

Putting aside that though Jacob, I think it's worth mentioning that we can say with certainty that anything mechanically unlockable in the base game is 100% reset on game over, correct? If Wesley's Mod wants to be the exception in this regard by all means but I just want to clarify this to ensure the saving LLL provides is inline with the base game and that this would be an exception and not an inherit flaw in LLL

[velvet drum]

wdym by mechanically unlockable?

[abstract heron]

eg. the fact that items and unlockables completely reset

the playable progression throughout the save is wiped when you game over

[velvet drum]

okay so like material possessions?

because like i said terminal data like logs is kept

[abstract heron]

While I can see the comparison between the fact route unlocks/knowledge could be more in the info pool with logs I think the fact that it's more mechanically progression tied and that the feature is up to author interpretation makes it closer to items and unlockables in this regard

by default anyway

In this specific usecase I honestly think the fact saves partially save stuff on wipe vs. starting a new lobby feels like a half measure when you could instead either tie it to the save in all contexts or tie it to the general save data instead

[velvet drum]

i mean i get what you're saying but from a gameplay view i think it is better to group them with that persistent data

i think it's better to be save specific as it currently is because if you ever wanted to replay the experience instead of opening a new file you'd have to hard reset all data

[abstract heron]

I agree but I think it feels inconsistent that it does retain on wipe. I'd guess a majority of players wouldn't even know there's a difference between letting the run fail vs. quickly making a new lobby

at the very least i feel more confident that LLL's current setup for saving it feels alright

[velvet drum]

i think what seperates the stuff that gets reset from the stuff that doesn't also has to do with how you obtain it. creature data and logs you obtain from scanning the creatures you find and exploring and finding the logs on moons. things like upgrades, furniture, and items, are all obtained from looting the facility and/or purchasing with the credits from selling that loot. moon unlocks fit more in that first category imo

like you don't purchase unlocking and unhiding a moon. you explore and do something to unlock and unhide it

[abstract heron]

Unless someone unlocks a moon via purchasing something

it's extremely up for interpretation

[velvet drum]

yeah but I'd be somewhat confused about the reasoning someone would have to do that given route prices are still a thing

[abstract heron]

I meant that less specifically and more that it could just as easily be tied to more tangible access rather than just knowledge

[velvet drum]

yeah that's fair

[abstract heron]

I suppose in a perfect would locked would be better to save + wipe where as hidden could maybe be not on wipe

[lapis cargo]

it'd be nice if the vanilla hidden moons unhid when you "unlocked" em too, cuz that's kinda similar to how we're unlocking the wesley moon stuff in some sense

[abstract heron]

I think that would be more correct but felt like overstepping a tiny bit too much

like on stargazer it does

[tight plank]

Oh wait a minute

Got softlocked on ||Acidir||

U literally cannot go up these stairs on it
You simply slide down

FUCK

I FORGOT TO SPOILER IMAG whatever

[velvet drum]

if you ever were to go down the road of changing how you handle saving locked hidden data you should definitely make it an option so the moon creator could choose to let it persist or reset on game over that way the creator ultimately can still decide

[oak tree]

Any good modpack to wesleys moons ?

[lapis cargo]

any that have coderebirth

[round dome]

just wesley's moons and wesley's interiors is all you need

[forest coral]

You need to blacklist the moon in CullFactory if you're using it

That's what causes this

Prominence also had issues like this

[round dome]

...no that'd just change rendering? cullfactory doesn't touch generation. generation is the thing making the stairs unclimbable, and cannot be changed.

[forest coral]

Ah I thought it was CullFactory tbh

[velvet elk]

Same. Is it because of the tilt inside on this moon?

[restive marlin]

Pretty sure yeah, slopes getting made steeper by the tilt will make it harder/impossible to climb them

[velvet elk]

Rip to people that get the mansion then lol. Those stairs could be the only way to the exit for some.

[lusty trail]

||Im completely stuck on Demetrica currently, been trying to find those tapes, logs and radios but they are nowhere to be seen. Any tips on what to look for and where?||

[tropic gorge]

||There’s certain moons are are considered “story enders” that either lead to other moons with their own story, or are simply dead ends.||
||Demetrica is considered one of those Story Enders||

[lusty trail]

||Ooooh I see, makes sense. Where should I go from here?||

[lapis cargo]

||Isn't demetrica the one with the apparatus? you'll need to find the other apparatus's from there||

[lusty trail]

||Hmmm, the bloody apparatus maybe? Now that I think about it, that would make sense.||

[tropic gorge]

||Find another story to progress onto||
||There’s a couple stories in the series, but one thing they all have in common is that their “story ender” moons all have an external apparatus on them||

||which will be important later down the line||

[lusty trail]

Thanks, this clears up my confusion quite a bit lol.

[strange saffron]

@tropic gorge how did you like your adventure? Did you like the end? Without spoiling stuff tho

[tropic gorge]

hell

it was good

but it was hell

[crude cairn]

man i like this interior, its refreshing to see

[tropic gorge]

Some stuff was definitely confusing to find, with parts of it i would’ve never even found unless i was given the hint or i got lucky and accidentally found myself

[glossy wren]

such an Indiana Jones moment, I loved it

[tropic gorge]

And if it weren’t for the discord i basically would’ve never completed it

[daring mesa]

why doesnt the shop rocket work on custom moons

[flat wadi]

does facility meltdown work with these moons/interiors?

[strange saffron]

Ehm probably?

[flat wadi]

"probably"

[pliant trench]

i don’t really know how mod support works for facility meltdown but i’m pretty sure it does work

[granite lily]

Yes

[lapis cargo]

||the apparatus room in atlantean clipped through another chest tile which caused the player to get stuck inside the wall if they got close to it||

[granite lily]

noted

[scarlet hawk]

All I read was ||Apparatus|| and ||Atlantean||

I know what I'm gonna do today

[flat wadi]

tbh i mainly wanted to know if these moons and interiors would give you enough time to get out within 2 minutes because ive heard of them having special effects/special effects when taking the apparatus out

[polar pendant]

It should be working on Wesley’s now I’d imagine. When the cruiser was added it changed the dropship so until moon makers updated their project to use the new dropship, there’d be issues. CompanyCruiserFix can be used to fix it though (even though it’s deprecated)

[rich quartz]

ended up on art gallery interior my first few times last night, such a good interior

antaleassean citadel i have not experienced enough to form much of an opinion

also dude ||TRITE 😭||

[broken thunder]

Where my ||motra|| fans at

|| I don't understand the obsession of mortar defense in wesley's moons when they barely do their job of hitting me||

|| still a very cool mechanic tho, its like a meteor shower but not as overwhelming as vanilla or code rbeirth||

[runic root]

||i really wanted to like alcatras but motra feels so much better lol||

[magic citrus]

Is there any guide to this mod because I don't understand how it works

[waxen lion]

Look at the pinned message

[broken thunder]

|| I like the motra more because of things like the tree and the fact that the mortars try to hit you all the way over to the fire exit||

|| but lowkey I love how theres fire exits with the pure purpose of being safe from indoor enemies, but not letting you return to the ship. Makes jetpacks more useful and dropping them at fire exits||

[magic citrus]

Thanks. One more question. Do you know why my games freeze when I minimize lethal with this mod? I have pretty good pc (120 fps in lethal) so idk why it is happening

[runic root]

||gratar smoke spot my beloved||

[waxen lion]

No idea, that's not happening to me. Sorry

[broken thunder]

||ah just chillin here with my cube, WAIT IS THAT A CANNONBALL||

[magic citrus]

And is it worth to play only with this mod or should add some other things like I ussualy do when I play?

[waxen lion]

I personally added this mod on top of my vanilla enhanced modpack

• MrovWeathers and weather tweaks to make my wesley pack and my vanilla one a bit more different from eachother

[strange saffron]

@tropic gorge || have you found the oldred special?||

[tropic gorge]

Arg i return
But yeah 10/10 for quality, lot of effort, lot of time put into it, very very good
6/10 for progression, gets confusing, kinda feels all over the place, but the main stories that are required to finish the journey are essentially a straight shot, which is good ||(if you don’t count the half hour i spent tryna figure out how to get the tape for Hyx, or the more than half hour i spent trying to beat Empra without getting ganked by 50 coilheads and a jester the millisecond i find the bomb or apparatus)||

And yes sick

Courtesy of Generic

I have

||Very groovy||

[quartz copper]

No

No

I have insider knowledge

||Wesleydale is final moon||

[polar bobcat]

Big spoiler ahead ||

                                                                                                     || quite the big spoiler huh

[cerulean aurora]

oh no, I got spoiled :[

Don't watch it if you don't want to be spoiled

[strange saffron]

Omg that is so cool wat da hek

[carmine pulsar]

Hey i think Collateral is misspelled in the LLL config for ||Art Gallery||

Its written as Colladeral

[strange saffron]

@granite lily you absolute tool

[granite lily]

Lmaoo whoops

[quartz copper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1023257725821534324/29B137A0-B2CA-4BD3-A92E-542BCC35BEED.gif

Fix it

[rich quartz]

our save file broke during us remaking the lobby and we have negative money rn so we can’t afford the 0 dollar moons 😭

[strange saffron]

wat

Thats insane lmao

[novel cargo]

keep a mod that lets u change ur money lol

[rich quartz]

stuck on trite forever

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-mad-foam-in-the-mouth-triggered-spongebob-gif-10015714

[flat wadi]

honestly this is always my biggest worry with using facility meltdown on modded moons/interiors so i would really like to know if it would end up giving you enough time to escape

[lapis cargo]

I havent seen ||art gallery||, but u have time with all other interiors

[rich quartz]

ok art gallery question

||do the mysterious paintings do anything????||

[strange saffron]

|| Maybe ||

[tropic gorge]

||⬛ ⬛ ⬛ ⬛ ⬛ Perchance. ⬛ ⬛ ⬛ ||

[rich quartz]

hmmmaaaaaamahmm

ok i will figure it out one day

i really do love art gallery it’s super cool it mignt be my new favorite interior

idk i’ve always really liked the original 2 wesley interiors so it’s a hard call

[olive harness]

I found and charted all but 1, and don't know where I found 1. FissionC my group somehow got early on before we were tracking it well enough, and we have no idea how, presumably some log. And Gloom yet eludes our search. But I have the rest in a graph.

Why did I even spoiler that?

[runic root]

||afaict fission-c comes from the oldred log on motra||

still hunting for gloom as well. soon...

[olive harness]

I will look into that. And yeah Gloom was one of my favorites (if not favorite) of the bunch before.

[runic root]

||i suspect gloom is on acidir but i cant route there enough to check, lecaro took too much of my groups time+solo doesnt give me much wiggle room to test.|| ||i do know glooms tape is on cosmocos||

[gaunt tangle]

||can find a Gloom videotape on Junic||

[runic root]

me when i spoiler text

any hints on ||utril and cubatres?||

[olive harness]

||map chain||

[runic root]

||yea but utril tho? feel like im fumbling for it and ik cuba is Found on utril...||

[olive harness]

||Thalasso I assume is the end of your current map quest, it took my group embaressingly long to find the next map to Utril from there, but it's not even that well hidden||

[runic root]

||found thal last night on lecaro so bless you for this lol||

[digital fjord]

yo, i need help, when i and my friend land on any of wesley's moons(except galetry) for the 1st time everything is okay, but when we are landing 2nd time at the same run the map isn't loading and my game dropping my frames per second to frames per month lol (also, after restart 1st run goes, but second one does not)

in solo everything works fine

[olive harness]

It's still possible on Junic to clip through flowers when leaving and get hurt.

[runic root]

its a feature

[tropic gorge]

||You can literally find Utril on ANY MOON IN EXISTENCE its that common||

[runic root]

havent found it. luck diff

[rich quartz]

i’ve only found one moon thru just pure luck loot so far

[tropic gorge]

||I cannot pass by a single damn block without seeing at least 10 tapes of it ||

[rich quartz]

well actually i’ve also found the tape for a moon i had but

[olive harness]

||I did just find a copy on Cosmocos, while trying to find Gloom||

[rich quartz]

||does cosmocos have a higher general tape chance||

[tropic gorge]

||literally Just go to cosmocos there’s so many utril tapes there you’d think the two would be related||

[olive harness]

||I've got Hyve, but I've heard claims of a bee hive, and maybe not just a tape on Motra? We haven't been able to find one so some clarification on that might be good?||

[rigid rover]

so, how many moons are there minus galetry?

[edgy sentinel]

What interior is that

[runic root]

||atlantean citadel||

[edgy sentinel]

Oh

[runic root]

sleeper hit interior, its really grown on me

[olive harness]

||26? in this pack, though I think we had 14 before? + Galetry||

[round dome]

when is The Last Known Position of Cosmocos getting reimplemented...

[olive harness]

I think it's been replaced, but I haven't touched that since release.

[rigid rover]

the "last known position" in question:

https://tenor.com/view/space-stars-galaxy-gif-16344067

[broken thunder]

|| so I defeated what presumably was the company's relative (since we stillhave to work for the company afterwards) or maybe it was all a lie? Since we went to the rubber rooms. And we did all of this, to become smol? Worth it!||

^^massive spoiler btw

[edgy sentinel]

How is that a spoiler

The image

[broken thunder]

||it spoils the "reward" you get for completing the mod's story||

[round dome]

i think that's a bug

[broken thunder]

hey no that's my reward shut up

[round dome]

i don't think you're meant to shrink in size upon the completion of wesley's moons

[broken thunder]

I totally think you are

a prize for my efforts#

|| but dang, that cutscene was epic (sadly I got spoiled by the possibility of a cutscene due to the dependancy, but it still was epic nontheless. HOLY MOLY||

[bitter crest]

||it was such an amazing send off lmfao||

[edgy sentinel]

||What moon was the cutscene on||

[broken thunder]

||empra, find out how to trigger it yourself||

[keen narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[round dome]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[bitter crest]

shut up

[keen narwhal]

nuh uh

[bitter crest]

https://tenor.com/view/elmiser-that-friend-that-friend-who-doesn't-like-anything-that-friend-gif-10083791447464456843

[nocturne agate]

Does anyone know a good mod that allows you to choose what interior you load into? I want to try and load into the Armory Interior for an art project

[lost rivet]

found this might help

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/NotezyTeam/SelectableInteriors/

[round dome]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[polar bobcat]

speaking of that mod ive I tried it
might be stupid but I couldnt get it to work

so if you do lmk

[bitter crest]

oh my fucking GOD

fuck this

[round dome]

wait you deleted it

it embedded correctly i sent gif to be funny

[olive harness]

Ok difficulty names are out of control: ||???, S+++++, B++, I see you, B..||.

[livid tangle]

WHO SEES ME

AND WHY IS TIO FROM ROBLOX POGGY A DIFFICULTY (his skin is called ???)

No im not embarassed to unironically play it its good game and lore

[olive harness]

I am going to just ignore that

[livid tangle]

anyway, uh, whats next p rank difficulty

[olive harness]

I don't know, but it's a madhouse out there. I got other mods giving me: o.o, REDACTED, ?

[livid tangle]

Honestly im surprised that the hazard levels arent hardcoded

[nocturne agate]

This didnt do anything... I was typing in the terminal and no command was being read

[rigid rover]

Right away, sir!

[dawn sluice]

except for ||hyve||

[dawn sluice]

me hi hello hi i like it its my favorite moon hello

[dawn sluice]

what the fuck man

[olive harness]

I think there are a lot of side moons currently, and even one chain that as far as I can tell kind of goes no where.

[dawn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/stickydacat-gif-26502121

[strange saffron]

Pin this! Pin this immediately!

[carmine pulsar]

New generic moon confirmed?

[hollow moon]

I'm also getting this unfortunately

[twin sonnet]

Glad I'm not alone there

[rigid rover]

when i was playing in the art gallery interior I encountered a funny bug

since i had diversity on, when the Watcher was visible in the vent, if the wall was flat you could see his arm on the other side just chillin

[tawdry vortex]

might be worth reporting at #1185408109414449202 too in case the dev wants to look for a fix

[rigid rover]

true, true

[tawdry vortex]

any bugs with the walker?

i like that one the most

[rigid rover]

no but he scared the soul outta me recently

ironically in the rubber rooms

[strange saffron]

GGs to @forest coral @restive marlin and @granite lily to finishing

And @round dome

[polar bobcat]

https://imgur.com/3SvtVR8

[round dome]

i finished it before the mod was even out

[polar bobcat]

ok liberal

[strange saffron]

That doesnt count

[bitter crest]

holy shit mangoman

[tight plank]

GYATT??????????

[strange saffron]

@livid cradle too! I hope I ping the right person

[tight plank]

This inventory assortment is fucking cursed

A lot of entities have this problem on Acidir btw

Idk specifically what entity, but this error message is here on Acidir almost every time

[polar pendant]

Could be funky navmesh or AI node. There is https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/JacobG5/LostEnemyFix/ that can kill enemies that get stuck like this to avoid spam

[severe sierra]

LostEnemyFix my beloved

[tight plank]

Oh wait

The entities spamming the error in console are stuck?

So it won't subtract from a moon's danger when they're auto-killed?

[severe sierra]

The issue can vary but generally yes, if the enemy is stuck somewhere with no navmesh to navigate they will just get stuck and spam the error

[polar pendant]

Well, they’re not on a navmesh which is the invisible blanket over everything they walk on, so they’re essentially stuck. If they’re killed, I imagine the danger stuff is handled properly (killing one frees up room for another to spawn) but idk

[tight plank]

I'll see how it goes

I see there's an, "Attempt Relocation", option in its config

So that's nice at least

[tropic gorge]

(final final moon spoiler)
@granite lily ||there's a lotta errors getting spammed after the ending cutscene is finished||

[tight plank]

Is this vanilla-compatible?

[strange saffron]

Yes

[tight plank]

Cool

Will def be using this in my vanilla-compatible modpack if it turns out to do its job well

[unkempt nimbus]

||So me and my gf have really been enjoying the lore; but for the main 3 logs, are there 1-4? I noticed Cunningham I only had 1.3.4 but not a 2, likewise Geoffery was missing the first. Do I need to dig deeper on the final moons?||

[strange saffron]

|| I think you are missing early moons - I’d go back to the first three but Im not entirely sure||

[olive harness]

Anyone know where I can verify how I've unlocked FissionC?

[rich quartz]

i'm also missing 2 actually LOL

[unkempt nimbus]

I’ve scanned almost everywhere I just don’t think there is any more tbh

[tropic gorge]

you’re missing ||acidir||

[olive harness]

Yeah some moons like that are skippable.

[unkempt nimbus]

||Right as you said that I totally remembered I HAD number 2, forgot I have the scrap insurance lgu and it wiped that log when we died!||

||So that just leaves Geofferys then! If there is a number 1?||

[olive harness]

||1,2,3,4,final though maybe not in that order||

[tropic gorge]

great questionn
one i do not have an answer to
sadly i couldn’t find it either

[unkempt nimbus]

Welp, i'll give it another shot and keep ya posted. I feel like maybe it's inside? possibly?

[tropic gorge]

could be, i dont think there’d be any space for it outside

[abstract heron]

fowarding here incase people are interested

[tropic gorge]

hm

if it’s specifically talking about this, def not #1

[rigid rover]

||I FOUND COSMOCOS ||

[tropic gorge]

that would 101% be absolute hell to deal with

[olive harness]

I think I've finished a graph of how to get to each moon. Not that it's all inclusive, as some of the loot exists in odd places.

[rich quartz]

||ok, so my crew has gotten to demetrica, and cosmocos.... but not sure how to find the last apparatus moon we need, not really sure about that path, geoffreys seemed like a dead end into polarus again.... do we need to get lucky and get alcatras? just would love a little hint or guidance||

[olive harness]

And a few points need verification, that I couldn't get repeated.

[olive harness]

||Alcatras seems to be a deadend||

[rich quartz]

||OH do i need to find atlantica???||

[granite lily]

Rn I'd say #2, #3 is definitely not it, #1 would make journeys unbeatable I'm pretty sure lol

[rich quartz]

||we're spitballing in vc and that FEELS like the next step idk where that is tho,,, infernis or 13 or something||

[tropic gorge]

hint: ||cunningham isn’t the only one who’s left a log on Polarus||

[olive harness]

||Best I can tell Atlantica is another route entirely, and unrelated to the apparatus hunt.|| No you need ||Polarus -> Calist log||

[abstract heron]

Is this response in the context of your mod specifically or how you think it should be as a default LLL wise

[rich quartz]

||mmm ok thank you o7||

[tropic gorge]

but yeah i'd honestly say #2's the best middle road
#1, if you have a lot of progress on smth and you fuck up, you're back to the start. Journeys is a good example of that, and how ass that would be if it worked like that
#3, while it sounds kinda nice, it would prevent anyone from starting all over if they want to.
#2 lets people save their progress while also allowing them to restart by simply deleting the save file (granted they don't muscle memory delete it on accident)

[granite lily]

That was mainly in the context of my mod yeah
How I think it should be default for LLL
uh
#2 still makes sense to me
But you could argue that #1 makes sense game wise

[tropic gorge]

#1 makes game sense, but #2 makes good sense

god i said that so wrong

[abstract heron]

Fair fairs

At least to me #2 kinda feels like the wrong execution to the right idea

Which is somewhat more of a basegame issue than me or you

[polar pendant]

I thought through them some in dev-moons and I think 2. Terminal stuff like bestiary saves, and I’ve felt that after quota failure it’s a new crew but they can still use what those before them learned. Moon routes feel like they’d kind of be the same as bestiary entries

[tropic gorge]

yeah true

tho idk a better alternative

besides either a terminal command, button, or config thing like how Vacuity does their progress

[tight plank]

Definitely #3

[abstract heron]

That's kind of why I feel like hide and lock are someone seperate beasts to deal with in this sense though.

route being hidden is knowledge based but I think in a lot of cases route being locked is more progression based and/or could be tied to acts done ingame

[polar pendant]

Could be. I’m not really sure tbh. I think I’d still stick with 2 but I can see your point

[polar pendant]

Doesn’t this just stop any chance of replay? Like you couldn’t chose to wipe the save and go through this Journeys update again with a friend (unless they hosted maybe?)

[abstract heron]

like i'm imagining some sort of moon protected by a shield that you disable by sending out some message in a secret interior or moon location which physicially allows you to travel there. that kind of progression feels more suitable to be wiped

[velvet drum]

imo it's less about it being knowledge based and more about how you obtain it. the things that you loose from getting fired, items, upgrades, and furniture are obtained through collecting loot from the facility or purchasing it from the loot you collected and sold. the stuff you keep is obtained through searching moons and discovering it. lore logs are hidden around moon surfaces. I don't imagine anyone making it so you purchase a moon unlock when you already can set it to pay to route there

[abstract heron]

I'll be curious to see how that basegame drill stuff is handled

[polar pendant]

I do know I’m not skilled enough to get all these moons unlocked before failing a quota , which is why I think 1 makes sense but I don’t think I’d like it. Not even just for Wesley’s stuff. Like, I feel I and my group are rarely “locked in” enough

[gaunt tangle]

gratz to @forest coral and their crew for finishing Journeys

[polar pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/おめでとう-嬉しい-クラッカー-お祝い-可愛い-gif-15780951

[rich quartz]

omg ||calist is CRAZY||

[gaunt tangle]

||CRAZY? I was crazy once.||

[round dome]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/jAGGjYMtJ2z0Fu_8A @polar bobcat

[polar bobcat]

science

[gaunt tangle]

the vomit got them

[keen narwhal]

science

[rigid rover]

Question: Are the ||forgotten logs|| supposed to be insertable or are they just random lore?

[floral remnant]

I vouch for 2, 2 is best I literally see no issue w it imo

but uhm im also tupid so idk :3

[eager hound]

i think its cool

||the only thing that is ass is the tape video to unlock the moon||

[stray steppe]

||I for the life of me, can't unlock some moons||

[gaunt tangle]

so since it's back for LLL, here's the icon i did a while back for
Ether

[rich quartz]

omg i've been stuck on fucking ||calist|| for ages we're too late on our run its too hard and ppl keep dying 😭

[eager hound]

what version was before the journeys update?

[granite lily]

If they're not insertable now, they will be in the next patch

[granite lily]

4.0.29

[stray steppe]

||||Which piece of scrap do I need to obtain to get to the final moon?|And On which moon?|||

[rigid rover]

Anybody know how I'm supposed to find the secret on ||Thalasso? || I've been stuck for hours.

[tropic gorge]

||what secret||

[rigid rover]

||is there no weird godly voice map on Thalasso?||

[tropic gorge]

||i'm sorry for your time||

||but god kinda||

||left the chat||

[rigid rover]

well in that case, is there a way off of ||junic|| i can get a hint to?

[tropic gorge]

||follow the flares||

[rigid rover]

alr cool ty!!

[bitter crest]

|| hi guys||

[rigid rover]

lol hi

[north helm]

||what moon do i need to explore in search of unlocking thalasso? is it past the apparatus hunt? moon sounds cool and i wanna check it out but don't really fancy wandering around the 19-ish moons i've already unlocked for it so a direction would be nice ||

[tropic gorge]

||Search the maze of Lecaro||

[north helm]

alrighty then figured i missed something there. thanks.

[rigid rover]

||He's hard to understand, but the map guy on Atlantica also tells you how to get there easily||

[vivid vigil]

There is

[round dome]

||thalasso isn't actually real, it's a collective gaslight, hope this helps||

[patent drift]

Done some early testing of this update and so far it's blown me away. 👏

Might be a tall ask but what kind of interiors fit each moon? When I set up a modpack for my friends to play on I usually limit a moon to have 1-2 interior types max, but I haven't found all available moons just yet.

[valid pawn]

||wait lasso?||

||thalasso > thalasso man > the lasso man||

[vernal cargo]

what could this config possibly be

[lapis cargo]

its the oreo moon clearly

[willow shell]

You looking for the talking map in your head?

[polar bobcat]

🖕

[willow shell]

How did you get more loot bugs then bees

On the bee map

Unbeelievable

[polar bobcat]

terribeel*

[willow shell]

Ha

Ok I’m going to jump off the bridge on gratar

[round dome]

wesley's interiors already has pre-configured weights for wesley's moons.

[willow shell]

Live footage of me

[granite lily]

LMAOOO
Gonna fix that

[polar bobcat]

please its so real to have my entire ships loot raided by hoarding bug slmfao

and having random rouge swarms cuz they grab hives

[naive plume]

ive been tabbed out of this mod for a while what is the journey thing abt?

u can spoiler it to me and stuff

[willow shell]

New moons, new interiors, new ways to suddenly become an explosive right next to your friends

[naive plume]

I just took it for a test run to see what they added and I am genuinely shocked how this was like even made

Idea is actually crazy

[rough wraith]

whats the counter to loot bugs? at the moment we just have someone with a shovel sitting on the door

[polar bobcat]

gun

[rough wraith]

i wish

[willow shell]

A little extreme

[polar bobcat]

thats what these fuckeers got

the america treatment

[willow shell]

Amen

America 🇺🇸

If you want the right way to kill a loot bug

Run to a big room and try running in a circle

And trying to hit them

They build up speed but are bad when turning

Or be me where I go to the factory stair case and sit in my camping spot were I set up a bonfire for how many enemies I’m going to massacre

[stray steppe]

||What is the final moon's name? I think I have it, but I want to make sure||

[rigid rover]

"The Maneater in ||Cosmocos's|| Mines"

[willow shell]

God gave him extra lives

[round dome]

he's very fat

[granite lily]

For now you can probably just drop all your items on a cabinet or something where they can't reach it

[stray steppe]

||How do I beat Empra?||

[polar bobcat]

bros clipping through the floor

[round dome]

||play on it enough and you should figure it out||

[stray steppe]

I guess thats fair

[granite lily]

which moon

[polar bobcat]

acidir

[granite lily]

great

[lapis cargo]

D. All of the above

[stray steppe]

||I figured it out, but now my screen is all black||

[stray steppe]

Warning, MASSIVE spoilers ahead

||I just beat the mod and...
It is almost perfect, there is so much love and passion behind this creative team, I could not imagine how much coding hell the developers put into this, especially that ENDING, what a way to finish this mod! (Also, is the big black tentacle cyclops a peeper?) And the lore and voice acting is magnificent! So many talented people! There are a few duds in the mix though, especially moons like Alcatraz and Utril just feeling a little boring, and that some moons are really hard to get, and that this mod doesn't feel "Vanilla", but other than those nitpicks, this mod is great!||

I still want to know ||if the big black tentacle cyclops is an oversized peeper||

[valid pawn]

||I think its fine for it not really feeling vanilla because it feels like one of those mods that entirely make a new game within another game's engine||

[round dome]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/jAGO37Gs7HSBwntwh

[granite lily]

||It is not||

[stray steppe]

😦

[stray steppe]

||Looks like it though||

[olive harness]

||Alcatraz maybe, though you can turn off the mortars. Utril you can drop the upper island by smashing the supports out. Which blocks the main entrance. Both unique mechanics, but I get it, not the most interesting things. The real plain ones I've noticed are Hyve, FissionC (slightly raising waste pool), and Demetrica (aside from the one awesome trap). Though maybe I'm missing something about those.||

[polar bobcat]

i hvaent used polt in so long

[stray steppe]

||I like Hyve because it is inoffensive, in the sense that it just exists, and I like Demetrica solely because of the build-up and realization||

[granite lily]

Released a patch
Should fix a couple things
Also balanced a bunch of moons better hopefully
Lemme know if something's wacky

yup
I'm awake
For sure

I'm leaving it

[lapis cargo]

you spelled wesley wrong

[jovial beacon]

if I just want to explore and enjoy the scenery of the || new planets || do I still have to wait till they aren't story locked? 🥺

[granite lily]

happens every time

[polar bobcat]

Do they cry

[polar bobcat]

Yeah unfortunately
But I would say you should give it a chance as I was also pretty apprehensive at first but I’m enjoying it

[stray locust]

the new rubber rooms is genuinely extremely creative and super cool....
but it has driven me to go out of my way and make a mod that ||disables all the jumpscares||

[jovial beacon]

I would but I don't realistically have time after work so maybe one day

[vapid crow]

||Jumpscares?||

[stray locust]

||Yes there's several jumpscares||

||Very rare, usually 1/100 chance||

[vapid crow]

||well, if its that rare,
why remove them
also what are the jumpscares and when do they occur?||

[stray locust]

||The worry about their existence ruins the experience for me, and they aren't fun when they do happen. Also, even though each one is 1/100 that is rolled every time you are near any door in the entire facility along with a handful of other random places and there's so many that they actually happen pretty often. like 3 times per moon day in my experience.||
||Each different type of door has a jumpscare, the cell doors can have the "Morgue Mangler" appear in the window, the mansion doors can have a "Shadowman" appear in the center of the room they lead to, the morgue doors can have the Morgue Mangler appear inside them, said morgue doors also randomly start slamming loudly, the rat holes on the floor can sometimes have a giant rat crash through really quick and it makes a loud sound. And the lights break every so often and make a loud noise.||

[rough wraith]

||can you share the mod?||

[granite lily]

||LMAO I FORGOT I CALLED IT THE MORGUE MANGLER||

[vapid crow]

||ok, Wesley, what the hell||

Thats overkill

[stray locust]

I'll be putting it on thunderstore eventually

[rough wraith]

tyty

[granite lily]

I could make this a config instead

[granite lily]

It's peak

[stray locust]

That would be the ideal solution! I didn't really expect to happen though so I took it upon myself to do it myself

[forest coral]

||I've played in the interior enough times that none of it is an issue imo, I think some people are just more sensitive to it but nothing was ever too loud for us||

[vapid crow]

Three's a crowd

[stray locust]

if you'd be willing i'd appreciate it

Though do note, for me personally at least, I would want to be able to disable basically every randomizedevent and horrorevent

minus the small rats. they can stay

[vapid crow]

||What do the jumpscares look like||

[stray locust]

||run around the interior for a bit if you want to know, i'm not gonna record vids or anything rn ;-;||

[vapid crow]

k

Also when can we stop censoring every word in the dictionary

[granite lily]

Idk
Whenever I feel it's been out long enough

[vapid crow]

||If you click this, you're stupid||

[severe sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-sour-cat-cat-meme-cat-gif-4305398913986271634

[vapid crow]

||hehe||

[novel cargo]

||😭||

[stray locust]

I mean. I love that for you that you can enjoy it as is. And honestly it's cool how much effort was put into it but for our group it ends up being a small thing that completely ruins the experience

[valid pawn]

||the new rubber rooms is my favorite, I really love how it goes bloody on eclipses||

||it also has a more vanilla feel than the other insane asylum interior||

[mighty heath]

Spoiler for most of the moon list

I’m this far in the game, I was wondering if any of yall know how many more moons are left and how do u get some of them? I don’t care about spoilers all that much. I have ||Demetrica|| as well but it’s at the bottom

[willow shell]

You got a decent ways to go still

There is a lot

[mighty heath]

I’m at a stuck point ngl, I been checking most of the previous moons, idk where to go next is all

[willow shell]

||Atlantica has a moon you can find||

[mighty heath]

||Which moon do u need to unlock Atlantica because I don’t got that yet 😓||

[willow shell]

Well I found a tape for it

[round dome]

||try checking around galetry, cosmocos, demetrica and calist||

[mighty heath]

Gotchu, thank u both of yall.

[dry kiln]

||Has anyone else experienced an issue where Cunningham's travel log on Atlantica doesn't get scanned in the log translator when you try to use it? On a similar note, did anyone else notice that Polarus is unlocked by two separate logs?||

[gaunt tangle]

||if you're the host, logging works just fine. with clients, it's a coin toss.||

[slim arch]

Hey, im having trouble seeing galetry when i load into any new saves, I have wesleys and all the dependencies installed

Even loading a previous save I don't have access to it, nor asteroid-13

[dry kiln]

||Yes, I'm host. In fact, I'm the only player doing it solo.||

[scarlet hawk]

I like how Wesley brought back the ||Lasso Man|| in one of the latest interiors in a creative way.

[slim arch]

Looks like the issue is related to the latest version of the mod? Downgrading to 5.0.11 fixed it

[strange saffron]

|| 🌋🗺️||

[tight plank]

Can there be a config option to disable ||Acidir||'s ||tilted interior||

It fucks with ai nodes waaaaay too much

Most entities do not function properly in it from what I've experienced thus far

[forest coral]

Might just be an issue with the Interior you have set to spawn on it

It's worked fine for me

[tight plank]

Manor

[scarlet hawk]

What I find hilarious is that the AI nodes in Grand Armory are so scuffed that I saw a Sentinel flying around from floor to floor rapidly until settling at the bottom where I killed it.

[tight plank]

Lockers are so fucked on Acidir lmao

[scarlet hawk]

Wheeee!

[forest coral]

People use The Sentinel still?

[tight plank]

That's not a bug btw I think

Entities can path to different floors on the elevator tile without the elevator

[scarlet hawk]

Yeah I know but it's still scuffed

[tight plank]

Ah

[tight plank]

Not surprised

It's kind of like Scoopy's where it's good the state it's in, but could be better

[forest coral]

It was always an enemy mod I've heard bad things about since the start so I am lol

I was kinda excited for it til I heard about all the issues and stuff with it and was recommended to not use it lol

I like enemy mods that feel vanilla

[scarlet hawk]

People only say it's broken because the modder intended for it to interact with boomboxes, but it never worked.

[lapis cargo]

the enemy's okay from a user standpoint, the creator was not

[scarlet hawk]

It still functions fine to me without the boombox implementation

[forest coral]

Yeah I heard some nasty things about the Creator too

from Pepsiman

[scarlet hawk]

What kinda things?

[tight plank]

Weren't they just an ass?

[forest coral]

Xu's likely got some examples, it was before my system went through a lot of changes so I've largely forgotten cus of my DID

[lapis cargo]

pretty ass-y ass

they had a god complex and whatnot

[forest coral]

Oh god yeah

[scarlet hawk]

Yikes, sounds like the Zelda 64 modding scene

[forest coral]

You bringing that up now I remember

[tight plank]

"Uh-huh, let's see that code then"

[scarlet hawk]

Why can't modders be chill and work together like Wesley and Generic?

[lapis cargo]

out of every duo

[tight plank]

Tbf mod consumers can be asses too, so

[lapis cargo]

you coulda picked, as role models

they're apparently self aware too

[scarlet hawk]

I picked those two because they're funny

[lapis cargo]

@dawn sluice i didnt know u told jokes

[scarlet hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-gif-22066197

[dawn sluice]

im a huge dick

like A tier asshole

i just hide my evilness behind cat gifs

[scarlet hawk]

I hope you have big enough pants to keep it in then

[dawn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-pallas-cat-pallas-cat-manulin-gif-13038820471662595194

[tight plank]

im huge dick

[lapis cargo]

no he has a boyfriend

[tight plank]

https://tenor.com/view/content-warning-content-warning-horror-video-gif-13675161060661844323

[strange saffron]

A+

[dawn sluice]

thanks stinkboy

[strange saffron]

Any time Gengen

[velvet drum]

A++

[round dome]

B+

[quasi gulch]

I don't understand what to do. Mod says to start with Galetry, but I can't do anything there. I don't have items to insert to any of the things there

[velvet drum]

There's a tape sitting right next to the tape player

[dawn sluice]

^

[quasi gulch]

On the same table? Because there was nothing for me there

[velvet drum]

iirc it's just laying on the ground next to the table

[quasi gulch]

is this incompatible with LethalQuantities as I'm modding every single moon dungeon flow to get rid of mineshaft & countless other fixes for my friend group?

[quasi gulch]

Gonna go check now, thanks :D

[velvet drum]

there are two other tapes you can search for that can give you 2 other starting locations. from there you can find things on those moons to progress further

[quasi gulch]

Ok I found the tape, I was apparently blind before :D

I'm just afraid I have some mod incompatibilities and this won't work

[lapis cargo]

you're forgetting about another tape on the other side of motra

[velvet drum]

well that's not a tape to a moon, that's a tape containing all my secrets

you shouldn't look at those they're secret

[quasi gulch]

None of the new interiors work for me by default, because LethalQuantities overrides all the moons. Argh

[lapis cargo]

I'd get rid of your own balance while you play the journey

I get the fun of doing your own balancing and stuff, but this is designed around specific, uh balancing I guess, I'd keep mods like quota rollover etc if you had em though, makes it more fun and relaxing for my group

[quasi gulch]

I'd like to keep these 2 as separate mod packs, but now I can't use any of wesley's moons for my pack :(

[velvet drum]

I'd recomend playing theough it once normally, then you'll know the moons and can configure them to work with your pack if you want

[quasi gulch]

I think we'll have to do that with my group. I think this is compatible with MoreCompany, LateCompany, LethalResonance, Mirage etc? We have a lot of stuff on our pack

I can't unlock the routing to any of wesley's moons now though with LethalQuantities so I can't unlock them for my own modpack

and I can't enable the routing thru lethallevelloader because it then messes up with LethalQuantities settings

[jovial beacon]

p sure even if you enable routing through lll you wont be able to route to them

[round dome]

you can use the standalone releases

[jovial beacon]

my only issue with this journey is that sadly alongside work and university studies, my group only has time to play one quota at best, sometimes not even a full quota
so going through the journey is not a viable option, but im sure its a banger

[quasi gulch]

This would get rid of the "campaign" part of it yes? That's nice, I'll have to do that. I've spent like +100 hours tuning my own modpack and I'd just like keep using these maps and keep the campaign as a separate pack

Because using my pack + the campaign would just mess the balance anyway :D

[velvet drum]

i mean it's a moon pack. it's not going to have a lot of incompatabilities if any. it's not going to be much less compatible than any other moon depending on JLL. Only thing special is we're using a lesser used feature that's existed in LLL for a long time

[velvet drum]

doing this will give you the old moons without progression yes. Only thing is none of the new moons offer standalone versions yet. so you won't get the casual doubling of your moon count

[quasi gulch]

That's ok :D We can live without the new maps for now. I guess they'll eventually get released as standalone though? Because if yes, then I'll definitely add them to my pack as all of the wesley's maps have been amazing

[velvet drum]

i mean eventually yeah but i do recomend trying out journeys at some point because it's a pretty cool playthrough that we've been working on for a long time.

[strange saffron]

Its essentially a new gamemode

[quasi gulch]

We'll probably try the journey thing tonight with my group :D I have to fix my own modpack though while I wait for people to come home from work. We usually play with like 6-10 people and I've balanced the map pool accordingly so I have to keep it as a separate thing

[strange saffron]

You can read my pinned comment for starters and I’d recommend keeping the modpack on a smol scale for better immersion ^^ Good luck on your adventure!

[quasi gulch]

Thanks :) I was thinking using LethalResonance & MoreCompany only for the campaign so I guess that could be considered minimal yes? :D

[velvet drum]

i wonder if we'll ever see anyone try to speedrun the Journeys campaign since there is a definitive ending... 🤔

[lapis cargo]

You st1nk

I read it and that was my conclusion

[restive marlin]

that'd be fun to watch tbh

[lapis cargo]

||my group spending 2 hours on cubatres trying to find the next map||

[velvet drum]

pfff lmao

[lapis cargo]

I mean it makes sense it all lead up to THAT, but there was so many hints of something more all around that same moon 😭

[dawn sluice]

||this is a really big spoiler text and i have nothing to add to the conversation but i want to feel included so im writing something huge anyway,. hi jorb||

[lapis cargo]

I went through every weather cuz there'd be boxes that'd mention ||praising the light at darkness|| or smthn

[velvet drum]

im ranking you up from A++ to S tier

[dawn sluice]

thanks

[lapis cargo]

Captain Commander Cunningham shoulda just been rating the moon's as smash or pass instead of these arbitrary letters 🙄

[velvet drum]

smash or pass wesley moons edition

[dawn sluice]

how the fuck would you even

[velvet drum]

i have a really funny answer to that i just don't know that i could say it in this server without getting in trouble lmao

so i won't lol

[dawn sluice]

dms bbg

[quasi gulch]

Anyways thanks dudes for the help <3

[lapis cargo]

On behalf of the passed jac0b, you're welcome

[dawn sluice]

i did absolutely nothing

[velvet drum]

hey we're back. Hyve S tier

[dawn sluice]

remember me < 3

[dawn sluice]

this is true we settled on this and everyone who argues is wrong

[lapis cargo]

I think I know what happened in dms

And I agree, smash

[velvet drum]

i can't wait for wesley to wake up and read this lmao

[round dome]

the bees, they'll kill you

[dawn sluice]

What if the bees decided to be nice for a day huh?

[round dome]

they won't

[dawn sluice]

...are you a bee

[lapis cargo]

I have a really really stupid idea that I'm gonna spend my afternoon making

I just don't know if my video editing skills are up to the task

[velvet drum]

oh god im scared

what are you going to do?

[round dome]

no i'm just an expert, i spent half an hour perfecting the bee spawns on one of my moons

[lapis cargo]

I think it'll be funnier to see it afterwards in a few hours, and I'm surprised no one's done it yet

[dawn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[velvet drum]

first scrap tape mod about to drop?

[lapis cargo]

Oh I'll definitely be adapting it into a tape

[velvet drum]

i want to make bloopers from wesleys update into scrap tapes mod. i have a lot of funny bits collected. ||like the person who recorded the filitrios voiceover for me didn't know how to pronounce filitrios so they just said every pronunciation||

[dry kiln]

I'd love to offer my voice for future voice acting opportunities

Just putting that out there

[dawn sluice]

||https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/jyJI5Ffp7RQB_gj0m?invite=cr-MSxoVHgsMjI5ODA1OTQwLA|| posting this clip here cus its funny as fuck

[tight plank]

The joke writes itself
(If you've read ||Acidir's notes||, then you should get this)

[lapis cargo]

I'm told I have a high pitch, when there's a singing moon I'll be there 🥺

[tight plank]

Shit looks like Purple's Penumbra 💔

[velvet drum]

this reminds me ||my original plan for oldred's tape was going to be a song about oil but the idea got shot down really early 😔||

[dawn sluice]

wanna hear something funny

i offered to make more music for wesley and the only thing he told me was about an "oil song"

[velvet drum]

ik wesley told you about it already if that's what you're going to say

[restive marlin]

||how the hell did it go from that to a literal saw tape||

[velvet drum]

LMAO

[dawn sluice]

and when i asked him what that meant he just said "ask jacob" to which i IMMEDIATELY stopped

ion know what kind of horrible shit yall were planning but i was not gonna be a part of it 😭

[restive marlin]

💀

[velvet drum]

wesley was also against it too. it was just my idea

[dawn sluice]

could you elaborate a little bit more as to what it was gonna be

[lapis cargo]

I would sing any song about oil given to me,

[round dome]

you should do that with haste, i wanna see

[round dome]

||fun fact, the recording spot of that is a physical location on oldred. inaccessible without teleporting though.||

[restive marlin]

||oh damn, fun stuff||

[velvet drum]

||it would've been like a work song. i imagine the workers for the oil rigs there would probably be chanting it on the job sort of thing. it was going to be kind of funny. like the main bit would've been basically chanting the world oil repeating to a melody.||

[restive marlin]

that does sound pretty funny

[velvet drum]

in fairness a lot of the random bs i made up did make it into the final release so im not complaining

[tropic gorge]

something’s wacky..

mud doesn’t exist on ||Empra|| when it’s rainy

and by that i mean it does exist and you just can’t see it

[round dome]

already known

[tropic gorge]

okay goooooooooooddd

[velvet drum]

generic what would it take to make the oil song a reality lmao

[dawn sluice]

That’s a bit complicated because from what you’re saying it doesn’t sound anything like typical music and more like… not a shanty but Yknow what I mean

And I have two problems

I haven’t done anything close to that at all
I can’t do vocal shit

https://tenor.com/view/fall-kirby-drop-falling-deep-gif-17081698

[velvet drum]

nah you'd just need to make like a beat. i can write some lines and both do vocals myself and probably find some old pals willing to do it too. random jacob lore but i used to be the bass section leader when i was in choir.

like i would make it pretty basic on purpose since it would be a work song

[round dome]

oldred video and it's just deep rock galactic footage

[lapis cargo]

I am a worker and I'm digging for oil, filthy filthy oil, filthy oil

All I can think of is the dwarf song

[velvet drum]

LMAO

diggy diggy hole?

[lapis cargo]

Yah

[restive marlin]

oil and petroleum!!!

[velvet drum]

i love this comment because it genuinely never crossed my mind until you said it how jarring that is

[lapis cargo]

For no reason whatsoever, are all the tape recordings stored in a specific bundle? All in different bundles?

[velvet drum]

they're just stored the same as the assets for the item they're put on ig

[lapis cargo]

Hmm makes sense, I gotta find a way to extract all the cunningham videos for no reason

[velvet drum]

pfff

i mean you may be able to just ask wesley

[lapis cargo]

||Still waiting on him to send me the mortar model so I can make it a 300k and a 600k credit ship upgrade ||

But I'll ask again just incase it makes my life easier

[velvet drum]

i literally talked about maybe doing that on stream today lmao

[lapis cargo]

[round dome]

||i think they're just a bunch of cylinders||

[lapis cargo]

It'd be the easiest thing to do too

[lapis cargo]

Yeah but I'm sure he can bundle it up into a prefab/probably already has

I'd ve very concerned if he hasnt

[velvet drum]

wesley is a rightful cause for concern

[lapis cargo]

Atleast he's a hard worker

Even woke up at 6am to me calling him to ||send me my free shotgun promised from the flirtation video tape or whatever it's called||

[velvet drum]

FLIRTATION LMAO

[lapis cargo]

I wonder how many more tapes mention calling a number, because i will be calling wesley for all of them

[lapis cargo]

It's so hard to spell 😭

[velvet drum]

i love how you called wesley for that when that tape was entirely made by me lmao

[lapis cargo]

I told him each time we redo the tapes with a phone number, I'm calling him

[dawn sluice]

Filitrios???? 😭 😭 😭 😭

[lapis cargo]

Yeah that

[dawn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[velvet drum]

the oil song generic

[lapis cargo]

Wesley's made his pixel icons for each moon right?

They're not on the thunderstore page though

[velvet drum]

i honestly don't know about every moon but i imagine he probably has a lot of them made as he created the moons. (i may be wrong tho) the reason why they wouldn't be on the mod page is because those are links to the standalones and the standalones for the new ones aren't out yet.

[lapis cargo]

ah true

[velvet drum]

i was actually planning on dropping some more stuff around the same time wesley dropped his update but got busy with things unrelated to lethal company at the same time. i might work on stuff next week when i get back home.

[lapis cargo]

i completely forgot this type of thing would exist with custom story logs, this makes my life easier but damn are there so many logs

[velvet drum]

oh yeah the LORE

[lapis cargo]

im curious, who wrote the lore? or was it just a collective bunch of yall

[velvet drum]

the lore would've been entirely wesley's brain child. maybe a little bit of the pickachu man but mostly just wesley

[lapis cargo]

damn, that's pretty good

what

[lapis cargo]

@ashen shard imma need you to enable this config for tonight

[velvet drum]

oh god the nightmares are returning to me

[lapis cargo]

|| what the fuck is cactus number 3 😭 || @ashen shard this too

[tropic gorge]

ooookayy uh

so quick question

[lapis cargo]

quick answer

[tropic gorge]

thank you

[lapis cargo]

yw

[tropic gorge]

also i seem to be in a lil bit of a pickle

and i don't exactly know how to get outta it

[velvet drum]

||it enables or disables cactus #3. i told wesley to make some things configurable and originally he was just goingtohave this be the only config in the release until he made banana mode lmao||

[lapis cargo]

||we're going to etern tonight so i honestly dont know what cactus number 3 is 😭||

[velvet drum]

||it's the third cactus||

[lapis cargo]

ohhh, ic

[velvet drum]

yeah

||if you don't have the cactuses memorized it may be hard to spot but luckily it is in front of the ship||

[lapis cargo]

Oh thx

[velvet drum]

there'll be a quiz on this later

[lapis cargo]

oh shit, alright

also exporting wesley's tapes from the bundle crashed my pc, so we're off to a good start

good thing the video tapes are separated from the audioclips ;D

[velvet drum]

wdym the audio clips are seperated?

[lapis cargo]

as in the ones that go like ||"i rate infernis a B+, captain commander cunforgetyourfuckingname signing out"|| are separate from the moon videoclips we see in the tapes

[velvet drum]

ah yeah lmao

[quartz copper]

||cactus, cactus giant confirmed ||

[lapis cargo]

||yeah jacob is taking over giant specimens||

[velvet drum]

||yeah and xu is taking over jll. we just decided to swapsies||

[lapis cargo]

||you're telling me i get to be vague as hell AND not get harassed over balancing???||

xumisctools making a comeback

that fat redwood giant ass is gonna be on everyone's modpacks soon

[velvet drum]

XXL or something

[lapis cargo]

Xu's Xuing Library would've indeed been a better name

[velvet drum]

maybe you could also bake a moon directly into the api mod im sure everyone would love that

[restive marlin]

is that something someone did once

out of random curiosity

[tawdry vortex]

lethalextension iirc

[tropic gorge]

The 5 thousand zort moons invading unity projects across the world

And one tool’s just named “Gal”

[restive marlin]

isn't that just scoopy's interiors/whatever now?

[tawdry vortex]

i forgot the name but i think some moon mod dependency had its own moon

[restive marlin]

Wait don't fuckin tell me it was lethalexpansion

[tawdry vortex]

ooh that

i think thats the name

[restive marlin]

No wonder lecore was made

even if now it's just as broken

[velvet drum]

i just want to clerify i was not around at this point in time but I've been told many things about it. ig lethal expansion included like 2 moons in the api mod

[restive marlin]

That sounds like a goddamn mess wtf 💀

[tawdry vortex]

i wasnt around then either for al ong time so im probably misremembering

[restive marlin]

I wasn't either but bundling moons with your moon api sounds like the most cursed shit

[velvet drum]

the one i was told about more was waterridge which iirc someone ported to LLL

[lapis cargo]

it contained 2 moons and a pile of scrap, all free assets in unity (nothing wrong with that, i just happened to find them by accident looking around lol)

[restive marlin]

Jesus christ

[velvet drum]

it had scrap too? lmao

[lapis cargo]

yah

[velvet drum]

nobody told me that part pfff

[lapis cargo]

everyone wondered where the 500 value christmas star came from

[restive marlin]

I know le used to be used for scrap too but I didn't realise it was using its own features baked into itself that thoroughly

[lapis cargo]

honestly i kinda liked it

[velvet drum]

LMAO

[restive marlin]

LMAO WHAT

I need to see that

[lapis cargo]

lemme check asset store

[velvet drum]

did anyone port the scrap over?

[lapis cargo]

doubt it

first result

everything in this screenshot except the present

[velvet drum]

LMAO

[restive marlin]

Jesus christ lmfao

[tropic gorge]

It had Wateridge and Christmas Village yeah

[restive marlin]

And christmas village has also been ported by now iirc

[lapis cargo]

if only the porter was 1 mesage above you skitts

[restive marlin]

... oh

HAHAHAHAHAHA I DIDN'T EVEN REALISE 💀

[tropic gorge]

And two messages below

fuck i timed it wrong

[lapis cargo]

lol

[restive marlin]

lmfao it's fine

[velvet drum]

I think i should bake all of my biodiversity butler ideas into JLL and watch the world burn

[restive marlin]

Oh god the #help-and-troubleshooting spam of "What mod's making my butlers do X thing?" would be ridiculous

[lapis cargo]

cosmocos is embedded into jll confirmed

[tawdry vortex]

too great for #1188298686560739389: weather api that, when the game host has an odd number for a steamid, has a 10% chance per moon to let the butler summon ten to fifty butler bees

[tropic gorge]

Ohh my stars anything but COSMOCOSS

[velvet drum]

"what mod added the paintler, and the fishler, and the lockler, and the fondler into my game pls help"

[lapis cargo]

the fondler? i wanna know more

[velvet drum]

of course you're interested in that one lmao

[quartz copper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bucket-water-group-of-h-gif-11906376959711696235

[quartz copper]

Go on...

[tawdry vortex]

fondler gotta be a juggler with 2 balls

[velvet drum]

oh rodrigo you know how good my butler ideas are

[quartz copper]

Especially the beekeeper one

[velvet drum]

you can vouch for me

[lapis cargo]

you guys exchanging ideas behiund my back 😔

[restive marlin]

beetler

[lapis cargo]

im gonna kill wesley, what the hell did he name the tape audio files 😭

[quartz copper]

Trying to find items in the dev menu after the wesley udpdate :

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-to-do-list-long-list-gif-5580267

[lapis cargo]

i immediately got rid of the mod from my dev pack after seeing the item list...

couldnt find my own mod

[velvet drum]

i just counted and i have apparently submitted 20 butler variant ideas to the biodiversity team

[lapis cargo]

did you also come up with butch?

[velvet drum]

i don't think anybody came up with butch. he just showed up one day and we didn't make him leave

wesley didn't even put him there he just appeared one day

[lapis cargo]

i noticed he started humming recently, i coulda sworn he didnt do that at the start

giving him a voice is not a good idea

[velvet drum]

oh no he's always hummed

[lapis cargo]

some butlers dont deserve a voice

[quartz copper]

Wow butlercist

[lapis cargo]

turns out the tapes WERE video clips, no wonder i couldnt find em

[velvet drum]

Cunningham's moon tier list when?

[lapis cargo]

thats literally what im fucking doing

[restive marlin]

No fucking way

[lapis cargo]

i'm just splicing the videos 😭

and then recording myself putting htem on a tierlist

[velvet drum]

pff okay lmao

[restive marlin]

that sounds hilarious

[velvet drum]

im just waiting until we can watch the entire shrek movie in galetry /j

[lapis cargo]

Gonna make s1ckboy put it in for 500kb

@velvet drum I'm told the toy shotgun isn't allowed for children under 13, why is that

[velvet drum]

something something boring safety laws. shotgun shells are a choking hazard for young kids etc etc

if they let them sell shotguns to younger kids they would

[lapis cargo]

Those shells do look like delicacies

[velvet drum]

||i remember asking wesley to help record that with me and i opened with "are you familiar with buckshot roulette"||

i didn't give him the script so his first time finding out what i did was the finished thing 💀

[lapis cargo]

Lmao

[velvet drum]

so when are you adding zort to lethal company?

[lapis cargo]

I added the instruments, I'm planning on adding the aminuking next

I never saw your episode 1 so idk if you guys ever saw the aminuking

[velvet drum]

i wasn't sure if anyone was actually interested in me editing that so i think i just have the footage

[lapis cargo]

The entirety of zort in the full form is the perfect form

But yeah it was the purple guy you picked up the made you get chased by like a hundred smaller pink guys

[restive marlin]

zortagene interior when

[lapis cargo]

They'd just keep shouting "amaniku" to you

[restive marlin]

I think I saw those while playing with luni a lil while ago

they were cute

in a weird way

[lapis cargo]

They recently made an amazing teaser for episode 3, which I can't post because this server banned twitter links randomly lol

[restive marlin]

shitty timing for that huh

[velvet drum]

i mean i think the ban is valid after recent events

[restive marlin]

Yeah

Just that I don't know if londer software would've put the teaser on yt and/or bluesky too

[lapis cargo]

Its valid it just doesn't make sense

[lapis cargo]

It was a 10 second video clip of them going on Microsoft paint with the words "zort season 3" over epic music

[lapis cargo]

For this server to do it anyway*

[restive marlin]

ah yeah fair enough

[velvet drum]

i can't wait for the next zort stream lmao

[lapis cargo]

I'm very excitedly waiting for the next episode too

rq is ||hyx|| the same as ||asteroid14? i heard about a rename a bit ago||

[velvet drum]

i literally didn't know what it was until moments before being gifted the game and it was a fever dream of a day

[restive marlin]

Yeah that's gonna be fun to play when it drops, the previous episodes were a blast to play through

[velvet drum]

||asteroid 14 was renamed Hyve||

[lapis cargo]

icic okie

[restive marlin]

I'd never heard of it before suddenly xu changed her server nick/the cr thread name and then the game was everywhere

[lapis cargo]

i liked the description "regular show but as a game"

oh yeah and i REALLY wanna port the legs enemy from the second episode

[restive marlin]

and I was like "tf is a zort"

[lapis cargo]

but it'll take me some time to have the time to figure out the shader effect and visual effects for that

[restive marlin]

Then I grabbed it to play with lunxara and yeah i get it now

[velvet drum]

yeah. that thought just hit me while we were rock banding out and thinking that weirdly made it make more sense to me

[lapis cargo]

@ashen shard died twice in the second episode and gave up because he sucks

[restive marlin]

lmfao

[lapis cargo]

it was surprisingly easy to port the instruments over, thankfully audiosource have a time component i can just edit to put it in specific sections of an audioclip so the instruments just auto sync with eachother

the only sad part about it, i found out how the player prefab is made in zort, and damn is it somehow worse than lethal

every item is pre-placed in the player's inventory in zort, it's just gameobjects being enabled and disabled to swap items out 😔

[restive marlin]

What the fuck 💀

[velvet drum]

tbh this makes sense

also was zort made in unity?

[lapis cargo]

yuh unity game

[restive marlin]

Pretty sure yeah

[velvet drum]

huh interesting

everything about that day is a bit fuzzy to me im still recovering /j

[lapis cargo]

zort coder is so real

oh yeah, you guys need to play the hardest difficulty at some point, episode 1 gets really hard 💀

[velvet drum]

do you just have to play the game at each difficulty to unlock the next or is there something else?

[lapis cargo]

i think you gotta beat first difficulty and it unlocks the second, play second once and then it unlocks like the next 3 or 4

dont gotta finish the 2nd difficulty because my group never did lol

[velvet drum]

im going to be honest I'd be down but i don't think wesley and nikki want to touch it again until something new drops after last time

we zorted them out

[lapis cargo]

[granite lily]

I wouldn't mind

[velvet drum]

oh hi wesley

[lapis cargo]

mornin wesley

i realised i shoulda spoilered that

step 2 complete

end me

[velvet drum]

lmao

[granite lily]

👀
You need em?

[velvet drum]

i think the extraction episode has concluded sadly

[granite lily]

Back to sleep then

[lapis cargo]

yeah i already extracted em, i was looking in the wrong place in the bundles 😔

[velvet drum]

out of curiosity what do you use for bundle extraction?

[strange saffron]

||Musema my beloved||

[lapis cargo]

AssetStudio

works like a charm

[lapis cargo]

|| it was part of the moons package so it better be a moon 😭 ||

[velvet drum]

you say asset studio but im pretty sure there's 2 or 3 with asset stusio in the name lmao

[strange saffron]

||Cun?||

[lapis cargo]

specifically assetstudiomod, one of the forks which is currently maintained i think? lol

[lapis cargo]

|| that's um cunningham shortened, i thought it was a moon and then i realised it was just an audioclip of her humming||

which is like, why is that a thing and why is it 40 secods long

[velvet drum]

i think i have like 3 different programs installed on my computer that do things with unity bundles lmao maybe 4?
and there's honestly 0 reason for it

[lapis cargo]

only bundle related thing i have is just my Editor stuff for making bundles better to build

unless each moon is separated on a different unity project, you HAVE to do something so you're not constantly rebuilding all bundles instead of changed ones, and it sucks unity by default forces you to build em all

[velvet drum]

i honestly don't mind doing that

i only have 1 project for my lethal company stuff and i have a lot of bundles for all my unreleased stuff that i have to build whenever i need to test something but i don't mind because i don't have to build it too often and it doesn't take a ridiculous amount of time

[lapis cargo]

coderebirth has 40+ bundles i believe, if i kept rebuilding all of em constantly i'd be months behind 😭, thankfully the editor tool wasnt too hard to make, its code is just ugly as hell at worst

[velvet drum]

wait what

why so many bundles?

[lapis cargo]

each feature is a separate bundle

if there's something someone turns off in the config, i just dont load the bundle

[velvet drum]

fair enough ig

[lapis cargo]

it gives me the excuse and freedom to put all my work into coderebirth and not splitting it up into like a million mods

either that or jst enduring endless complaints from people about it lol

it does also make the bundle building process a lot easier since i only gotta build relataively small and/or changed bundles

[velvet drum]

i guess i also didn't realize there was that much individual things in your mod (i don't play with it)

[lapis cargo]

sinner

its okay i dont play with JLL either

dont really like the scrap or enemies it offers

isnt immersive enough

[velvet drum]

no not my butler variants

[lapis cargo]

i disabled all of them except for the fondler

also listening to cunningham's tapes again, i have a bad feeling about what happened

[velvet drum]

they went out to a fancy dinner and got a nice ride home

[lapis cargo]

i love hot'ing nice rides home

[velvet drum]

shut lmao

[lapis cargo]

it only took me 3 hours on this slow laptop, but i did it

its unfortunate there's only ||5 tapes for a tierlist||

||Captain Commander Cunningham's moon tierlist, it's really short, probably because she's not a big wesley fan||

[granite lily]

Lmaoo

[bitter crest]

HOW DID YOU RIP THAT

[lapis cargo]

im magic

[bitter crest]

im in desperate fucking need to get these videos

[lapis cargo]

why?

[bitter crest]

tell me how you did it

[lapis cargo]

i only did it this way because i knew wesley wouldnt mind me trolling like this lol, you'll need to get permission from wesley

[bitter crest]

ooookay i thought you were getting it from the mod's files

ill still take some time to edit them into the video

[lapis cargo]

sure let's go with that

[round dome]

||captain commander cunningham desperately scrolling up the tierlist to put etern at the top as fast as possible||

[lapis cargo]

[broken thunder]

Infernis deserves more than B+

Never let her rate again

[granite lily]

Lmao

[gaunt tangle]

B+ because scrap nerf

[floral remnant]

nah you're a sweet lad

[gaunt tangle]

he's 2 Manuls operating a computer

[granite lily]

[gaunt tangle]

guilty as charged

[polar bobcat]

Gratar nerf

[gaunt tangle]

that one hurt more tbh. the amount of hazards that spawn there is ba-ba-bananas

[lapis cargo]

Thought Rodriguez changed both his name AND pfp this time

[granite lily]

LMAO

[restive marlin]

man imagine

[gaunt tangle]

boi is dedicated to the craft of shitposting

[restive marlin]

He's never changed pfp before though, I'm surprised he hasn't tried doing that at all yet

[polar bobcat]

Size and scrap decreased so you will still find things at similar rates I’d imagine

Just less overall