Wesley's Moons/Interiors/Weathers/Variants/General/Mrov

[waxen lion]

I don't want to use all the moons in your modpack, so I'll stick to putting them in the configs myself.
As for why I asked for monster weight, it is because of modded enemies (like the Walker from Diversity) as they all have the same weight across all planets.

[granite lily]

Idk if you've played it yet but the Bunker interior fits quite well with interior of Cosmocos

[void basin]

good to know

[round dome]

hmmm what if i give cosmocos every interior

[void basin]

I haven't had the time or people available to hop into Cosmocos yet, but I'm really looking forward to it

[round dome]

also @granite lily yet another bug report for cosmocos ||the cutscene when you land has an interaction prompt||

[teal rune]

@granite lily i have a question
Is it possible to make a pushable bridge on gratar to play its animation for everyone in the lobby? 'Cause rn it works for each player individually and it makes the player levitate for others

[granite lily]

By the time you get there, there will already be a cosmocos 2 and a cosmocos prequel and a cosmocos remake, maybe even a cosmocos miniseries on company+

[round dome]

also, i would love for the music from each moon to be available to listen to somewhere. don't wanna go to infernis just to listen to the tunes

[granite lily]

If I could I would have by now lol

[teal rune]

Damn :/

[frank seal]

networking is weird

honestly always looks kinda funny seeing ppl walk on air tho

[native valve]

Did you ever get help from swishh?

[granite lily]

I didn't

[worn panther]

Are there four more circles on your mod icon page because you're WIP on four new moons? 👀

[waxen panther]

HUGEEE

Moon’s moons

[agile oak]

What’s the vision!

[agile oak]

The tiny moon is going to bonk against the big planet in a couple years :P

[waxen panther]

Truee

[marsh panther]

I still haven't finished the damn puzzle

i have been a tiny bit spoiled in this chat about what cosmocos is "like" - ish

and it sounds like an idea I talked about in here 😅

if it's like what I said, that's cool a f

[pale karma]

@granite lily what's up with the 4 missing spaces here?

new mewns!?1?!/!/1/!1!/!?!/w?DW@"W

[lethal hatch]

it must be for || cosmocos 2 , cosmocos prequel and cosmocos remake, the last one we don't know yet||

[pale karma]

||harloth-||

[lethal hatch]

Oh yeah your planet !

[pale karma]

imagine if they actually added it-

[lethal hatch]

Why not, don't loose hope ! 😉 (Tolian seemed interested)

[pale karma]

i doubt they would actually go though with it

[charred adder]

Honestly if Wesley did make another planet, I feel like an urban one would be a good fit

Something that actually feels like humans (or aliens) lived there.

[round dome]

bug report for polarus, dogs seem to get stuck in place.
also, has polarus been optimized at all? it's gone from minute long loading times with two people to second long loading times been three people

[high stone]

Oh shit, I've been like

Really, really wanting a map that's an abandoned military camp almost

Two to four small INDIVIDUAL facilities (no fire exits) on a single map. Other theme could be an abandoned town/city where you need to explore skyscrapers and stairwell tiles are very common.

[atomic fiber]

closest thing to that right now would probably be Outpost 31

[hasty kite]

YES

[hasty kite]

YES

[gaunt tangle]

hopin for a lightning themed moon

[cinder flame]

I'm making a new map now - if I make it, I might take your idea😉

[round dome]

took two of my friends to the last known position of cosmocos, they both suggested adding subway surfers

[granite lily]

Bruh lmao

[valid yoke]

i like every moon in this pack

[gaunt tangle]

Last Known Position of Cosmocos, but you can play DOOM on it

[granite lily]

Space invaders

[atomic fiber]

That just made me get a song stuck in my head

[agile oak]

In the aiiiir

😈

[atomic fiber]

Idk what you’re quoting, but it sure is not what I was thinking

[agile oak]

LOL

lmfao never mind then kek

[agile oak]

||(What we’re you thinking tho :P)||

[atomic fiber]

Space Invaders by MDK

[granite lily]

Has anyone else grabbed a bunch of modded moons and added a moon randomiser
It's an interesting way to play lol

[frank seal]

RouteRandom + the most moons you can find

would be funny with all the modded interiors also

[gaunt tangle]

well, after trying to get Orion today, only to learn my ISP is blocking ExpansionAssets (dependency), downloading more moons is far from my mind

[frank seal]

but idk how setting up interiors to be equally random would work, put them all at 300 weight?

[gaunt tangle]

but the thought of super randomizing moons has crossed my mind

and if you included Dafis moons... oh god...

[round dome]

does etern have more daytime enemies show up later in the day? i feel like i am reading an animation curve really wrong

[round dome]

why does etern have daytime enemies show up later in the day

i'm being gaslit by an animation curve

[granite lily]

Lmao

[hollow moon]

Yeah, I mean aren't planets basically just the Sun's moons already?

[waxen panther]

huhhh

uhh

please stop it's too early

[gaunt tangle]

there gonna be a config file at some point by chance? giants on Etern have had it good for too long

[round dome]

config file for an LE moon aint possible unfortunately

[gaunt tangle]

damn.

[valid yoke]

i personally just~~ nuke the giants into dust and dirt~~ run away

[gaunt tangle]

... huh?

[frank seal]

use fairgiants + forestgiantsmotionsense

good giants rework mods

fairgiants make them way less prone to camp the ship or main, also makes their pathing random
forestgiantmotionsense makes so that they cannot see you unless you move (just like nutcrackers)

[gaunt tangle]

sounds fair to me

[round dome]

not exactly like nutcrackers, you can still move your camera

[frank seal]

can you not move your camera with nutcrackers?

[gaunt tangle]

even better

[frank seal]

i thought you could

[gaunt tangle]

correct

you cant even point. it's picked up as movement

[frank seal]

a

[gaunt tangle]

basically, hands up, controls down

[high stone]

Almost but not actually but kinds. The term you're looking for is (natural) satellite

[waxen panther]

Thank you that was too much on my brain

[round dome]

ah i see why etern seems to always be active. it has a spawn amount range of 25

[gaunt tangle]

lifesaver. LIFESAVER!

[fringe saddle]

on a moon with a large open exterior like Orion, these two mods really make giants a lot more forgiving

or in Wesley's moon's case, a moon like Etern

and atlantis as well because I noticed they spawn there too

[frank seal]

yeah atlantis has a very low chance to spawn geant for some reason

really unforgiving for such an easy moon

kinda sad that it has barely any scrap tho

[waxen panther]

Man the giant spawning on Aquatis ruined our run 💀💀 I like that they have a really small chance of spawning tho

Everyone’s calling it Atlantis too lol

[oak tree]

are you in the right thread

aquatis is not part of wesley's moons

[waxen panther]

wait maybe not

oh

[agile oak]

Not right thread lol but do you ever experience lag spikes on it?

[oak tree]

Atlantica is though

[waxen panther]

Atlantis neither

Yeah

We’re talking about Aquatis

Aren’t we??

Wait

Atlantis isn’t even a moon

[agile oak]

Last I tried aquatis it had some bad navmesh issues

[agile oak]

Atlantica is :P

[waxen panther]

But I’m pretty sure they’re talking about Aquatis and not Atlantica here

Unless Atlantica can spawn giants too??

[granite lily]

Next moon: Atlantis, it's the Atlantica map but completely flooded all the time

[oak tree]

oh goody

[frank seal]

oop yes seeing atlantis made mix the two up

[waxen panther]

Oh hahaha no worries

[crystal bane]

How do i manually install these planets?

i managed to sorta make them work but i keep getting terrain errors at launch so i'm pretty sure i did something wrong even tho they're playable

oh and reason i don't use the mod manager is out of habit since a friend of mine who introduced me to lethal told me to do manual installs

[round dome]

nutcrackers can clip through the floor of the ship on etern

what's the internal name of asteroid 13?

[gaunt tangle]

which dungeon are you applying to it?

[granite lily]

Asteroid

[agile oak]

hey @granite lily :P the robot arm in gratar seems super cool, is there a use for it?

[granite lily]

uh

you can sell it :D

[agile oak]

:P gotcha! I felt like with the extra sound and stuff that i might be missing something

all good though

just wesley being extra

😎

[granite lily]

I'm just gonna throw this teaser out here

[twilit kite]

time for my friend's potatoes to explode

[valid yoke]

new moon!

[cinder flame]

cool

[forest ruin]

OMG OMG OMG ROOFED TREES?

Is this real??? :OOOO

[simple mulch]

Damn this looks amazing, this is super cool but will you ever go back and give etern some more love? The moon needs some tweaks in my opinion.

[granite lily]

Etern is perfect in my eyes

[simple mulch]

I think it's landscape has to many weird spike like landforms, they feel unnatural to me

[valid yoke]

ambient's is the best

[tropic gorge]

The least chaotic Etern “experience” (its perfect guys trust)

[valid yoke]

etern is my fav because the ambientence

[tropic gorge]

For as long as i live i will never like etern

My experience is similar to one who’s been in a war

[valid yoke]

i have brought lethallaser and lethalthings rocket launcher as preperation

[granite lily]

Etern is chaos is its purest form

That's why I love it

[valid yoke]

i must nuke etern into a glass planet

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169801857049309357/1211564795602411530/giphy.gif

me rn in etern its experiment but

[granite lily]

run

[valid yoke]

maybe modified the giant spawns a bit

[granite lily]

I love those moments where I've been collecting stuff, go outside and the entire royal army of nutcrackers is just waiting there lmao

[frank seal]

oh

for me it's not nutcrackers

i'm just getting

5 mimics on there

[valid yoke]

i did spawn some in they all walked in army formation lol

[granite lily]

Oh yeah can't forget about the surprise mimic party at the ship when you get back lol

[oak tree]

Hi, so i have a problem where on the Cosmocos map theres basically this hole with water inside if you walk forward after exiting the ship

And for one of my friends theres basically a wall, for the other one theres no hole and can walk above the water like jesus and for me i just fall inside

[granite lily]

Try following your guiding lights

[oak tree]

But what about the difference with the map for everyone?

is it supposed to be like that?

[granite lily]

It's a "feature"

[frank seal]

the map is random for everyone, if you follow the lights they'll lead you where you need to go

[oak tree]

If its actually a feature and not a bug then i respect that

lmao

[frank seal]

i'd never believe i live in a world where forcing a desync as a feature

but i do

[oak tree]

WAIT ITS ACTUALLY A FEATURE?

Damn thats smart af i like it

[gaunt tangle]

my DKC senses are tingling 👀👀👀

[blissful light]

Daaamn that's gorgeous. What are you getting, like 7 fps? 🤭

[granite lily]

lol
Not much different from the usual

[blissful light]

How's the performance on your moons compared to vanilla?

[granite lily]

no idea

[blissful light]

Wuh

Bc you don't play vanilla?

[granite lily]

I haven't touched a vanilla moon in.. weeks

[blissful light]

Lmao understood

[valid yoke]

experiment is my fav vanilla moon

[blissful light]

I want to make my moons even prettier, but I don't want more complaints about performance 😵‍💫

[granite lily]

It's part of the experience

[frank seal]

i don't mind how your moons look but just why is auralis SO ABSURDLY HUGE

[tropic gorge]

They’re all pretty similar in terms of performance

All besides Polarus

For some reason that moon takes a lot of time/effort to load, and either makes the program not respond while doing so, or straight up crash

Half my friends crashed while attempting to land there

[teal rune]

I hope zeekres releases some good optimization to boost performance in v50
Also @granite lily, are you planning to port your moons to lethalLevelLoader or staying with LethalSDK?

[tropic gorge]

He’s planning on switching to LLL

[thorny narwhal]

yeah same

[teal rune]

👍

[granite lily]

Polarus is special, idk
Might take another look when I get home

[tropic gorge]

Yeah idk why it’s specifically that moon that does that

It not really that different from all the others in terms of special things

Although i guess there ARE a lot more moving parts in that moon compared to others

With all the moving ice blocks, the elevator, the earth leviathans, and the ice walls (which i haven’t really seen myself, but i have been told they exist)

The only planet that probably comes close to the amount of moving parts on Polarus is Atlantica

[granite lily]

I think Cosmocos has the most moving elements out of all my moons lol
But that's not where the load times come from

[soft zephyr]

it because polarus is large lmao

[valid yoke]

i have not visited cosmocos yet

[proper rapids]

Nah theres way bigger maps with close to zero loading times

[soft zephyr]

last time i checked. polarus is large

[proper rapids]

Its big but I wouldnt say large but still thats not the cause of the loading times

[granite lily]

I mean, Gratar is technically bigger

[soft zephyr]

i guess its due to how much of polarus you are able to see lmao

[blissful light]

It used to be bigger, if you can believe it

[frank seal]

i

am going to jump off the ice platforms that lead to the fire

[lapis cargo]

Did u get rid of the water fire exit btw

I remember loving that fire exit but after a while I only found one on the right side of the map

[blissful light]

If you find fire on Auralis, lemme know. It's cold 🥶

[blissful light]

Nope, there's 2 fire exits

[lapis cargo]

Guess I'm just unlucky lol

[blissful light]

The ice floe exit that you're talking about and one up in the hills

[thin anchor]

Just found this thread... we had so much desync a few days ago where the trees would be on different spots for everyone

Anyone experienced this before?

[lapis cargo]

What moon btw?

[thin anchor]

I think it was Cosmocos

Or... I have to check. The one where you land and will blow up if you stand in the middle of the ship

[atomic fiber]

I think cosmocos is supposed to be like that

[thin anchor]

We also had desync in the doors that you open via terminal so not sure, maybe it was a AC bug

[atomic fiber]

Well AC is gone now

[thin anchor]

No

it's back

Such a weird story

[atomic fiber]

Oh shit you’re right

I just checked releases

[worldly meteor]

Before landing on Polarus, I have these messages that have come up, I think the lag comes from there
I also have this on Acidir, but with a lot fewer messages, so the lag is much lighter
I hope this can help

[granite lily]

I figured out what caused the massive load time
Patch is on its way

[proper rapids]

what was it

[granite lily]

The trees and the rocks that are randomly placed on terrain

[blissful light]

Too detailed?

[granite lily]

Too many calculations I'm guessing

[blissful light]

rip

[granite lily]

Patch is out, Polarus is playable now lol

[tropic gorge]

i love polarus

[blissful light]

Polarus is wack

I've never played your moons, waiting for the port to LLL

idek what Polarus looks like

[granite lily]

imagine ice.. uh snow and.. worms
yeah that's about it

[blissful light]

Ohhh

I see

Icy

[tropic gorge]

dw i gotchu

accurate polarus representation

[blissful light]

did

did you make that

did you just have that on hand

[tropic gorge]

its very accurate

accurate representation of polarus

[blissful light]

now make one for Auralis

[tropic gorge]

represented

accurately

[granite lily]

Did you take a screenshot

[tropic gorge]

well shucks

you caught me

[tropic gorge]

i'd be crazy not to

[blissful light]

It's extra funny bc hawks have almost no chance of spawning lmao

[tropic gorge]

they are

a defining feature

of auralis it would not be the same without them

[blissful light]

Not sure about that, but they're staying. I can't get rid of them, they just keep coming back

[frank seal]

sound like me getting baboon hawks literally every single time i go to gorgonzola even tho they're at 3

[solemn portal]

I like the giant

[solemn portal]

although the worm is better

[blissful light]

poggers worm

[cinder flame]

awesome

[naive plume]

El dorado?

looks something like that imo

[gaunt tangle]

hmm, now i wanna see an ancient ruins tileset to go with that. castle is close, but it's more medieval than "ancient civilization"

[tropic gorge]

what's Polarus's number again?

like the one that goes before the moon's name?

[round dome]

what enemy will be outside on this moon?

[granite lily]

yes

[gaunt tangle]

it's gonna be a minefield of bees. interior will be filled with forest giants.

[granite lily]

🤔

[gaunt tangle]

although... any idea if Snare Fleas are on a timer and will try and zip to a ceiling regardless if there is one?

because if not, having them roam around would be quite a nuisance

combine that with a few bushes and you'll end up with plenty of surprises

[granite lily]

They might zip up into the trees lol

[gaunt tangle]

hmm

[round dome]

wrote custom fauna thing for etern because it copy pastes from another moon
FAUNA: An extreme ecosystem. Nothing good can come from this place.

also good lord i feel like etern needs to be toned down. 2 giants, 2 nutcrackers and 3 mimics all outside at 4 pm

the ship had 4 mimics inside it at 6 pm

plus two wandering

if it's possible i think the nutcrackers should aggro to the mimics

just look at this jesus christ

[granite lily]

Lol

[round dome]

THEY LIVED

MY FRIEND LIVED

HOLY SHIT

THEY HAD TO KITE A HIDING MIMIC OUT OF THE SHIP WITH 5 OTHERS CHASING

[granite lily]

I love how its never the same
One day it's 4 giants another day it's 8 baboon hawks for some reason other days it's just nutcrackers

Except for mimics, they're always present

[round dome]

again, please god turn it down

[granite lily]

lmao

[valid yoke]

with masked enemy overhaul and ai revamp there gonna be a pain

[granite lily]

no

I mean they are quite easy to avoid if you know where to go

[proper rapids]

Personally I like Etern for its chaos 😄 You never know how the day will end, each visit surprises you with a turbulent trip

[valid yoke]

5 giants on etern 200 manually spawned nutcrackers alot of shotguns and death

[granite lily]

I love going outside and seeing 18 nutcrackers patrolling around

[valid yoke]

etern is good for shotguns

[gaunt tangle]

actually... i can see that being possible, should they not need a limit for how far they are from a ceiling, and so long as there is one above them unimpeded

of course, i aint the one doin the work so im just talkin without a source

[thorny narwhal]

bro chill no more moons its gonna destroy my modpack 😭

[granite lily]

no

more moons

[cinder flame]

You can never have too much of a good thing😉

[cinder flame]

When will the whole galaxy come out?

[granite lily]

When the big bang update is ready

[brisk drift]

Good morning, I wanted to thank Wesley for the great work on his moons, currently, they are the only moons I like in mods (and Egypt, but that's from someone else).

On the other hand, can I donate money in some way for your work?

And lastly, I wanted to report a Polarus issue, but I don't know if it's the right chat to do so. XD

[granite lily]

What's the issue?

[granite lily]

I don't have anything for donations lol

[brisk drift]

Well, I can only say that I love the moons that I played, thank you very much.

[brisk drift]

I can't explore Polarus, the map won't load.

I have a 5 minute video waiting for Polarus to load, but I had to shorten the time and lower the quality.

There is nothing interesting, it is simply to accompany my explanation.

(I play it on a Steam Deck).

[granite lily]

Could be a few things causing that, I'd say restart the game and try again
And make sure the mod is up to date

[brisk drift]

Okay, thank you very much, I'll see if another try works. xD

Every time there is a Polarus update I am very keen to try the map, but I never got around to it. unu

[round dome]

i think the most likely outside inside enemy for this place is snare fleas. to quote the bestiary: "The snare flea thrives in dark, warm areas." "It cannot survive low temperatures and generally avoids open air and sunlight"
this jungle seems like it would be very warm and moist, and with the darkness it seems like it might be a perfect habitat for them.
there is technical issues to be concerned about though. i think they can only hide on decently low ceilings

also i think stormy on acidir should be replaced with rainy

[waxen panther]

Wesley bought by Fortnite?

[granite lily]

They would fit the environment well yeah
||I totally didn't forget about snare fleas||

[granite lily]

Rainy weather should be able to appear on Acidir

[round dome]

oh

i don't think stormy should appear on acidir though, the canopy would probably prevent the lightning in some way or another

[granite lily]

I'll think about disabling it

[soft zephyr]

having coil heads spawn 24/7 outside is quite tedious to deal with for asteroid

[round dome]

does cosmocos have custom music? i'm thinking about making small little tunes for each moon (other than infernis, know that has music already)

[lyric fossil]

I second this, coil heads outside are super cool but might need to be toned down a bit? right now they are a pain in the ass lol, everyone in my group prefers vanilla planets, since the update, because asteroid became such a hassle, relative to the scrap worth on it.

[waxen panther]

maybe limiting it to one coilhead that spawns after midday might work? I haven’t had issues tho

[granite lily]

There should only be one outside, at the start of the day at least
They're only supposed to spawn more near the end of the day

[round dome]

@granite lily gwuh

[granite lily]

It does not and I don't know if @dense tangle is still planning on doing music for the other moons
Considering the rarity of spare time

[dense tangle]

errrr

I dont wanna rule it out, but when i said i'd do that there were only 3 moons 😛

[granite lily]

The arsenal of moons has expanded since then lol

[thorny narwhal]

bro cant chill when making moons im guessing there is 4 more coming ye?

cuz i see 4 thigns on the icon that are empty

[round dome]

i only plan on making small little tracks for when you land (and maybe some for when you leave) which is probably alot more plausible than a full track per moon

[waxen panther]

👀

[granite lily]

I just like the way it looks

[round dome]

like this example maybe polarus tune i quickly rushed together. making small tunes is alot easier than making full tracks, especially if you're not particularly a musician. made for ||when the worm first appears upon landing||

[dense tangle]

something to consider is that there isnt a way to replace the little vanilla music bits

that play depending on the time of day

[round dome]

shrimply make it louder than those

[dense tangle]

at least, not with the tools that wesley has currently

tbh its something that still bugs me about infernis, you can hear the music under it. but there's not a whole lot that can be done about it

[granite lily]

Things like little intro tunes I can do
(I'm at work, can't listen to it rn)

[blissful light]

Yea I noticed that too, big bummer

[dense tangle]

Yeah, I know that Kay plans to for Egypt though cos he had me make replacements for all of them

So I'm assuming that LLL supports it. Or at least is going to

[blissful light]

Not sure if it'll support it internally, but I'm sure a script could be made to override the music when on specific levels

[lapis cargo]

wonder if bongo's sound api would work to replace lol

[soft zephyr]

btw @granite lily are you able to make the map interactives serverside? or does the loader you use not allow that ‍​​‌‍

[naive plume]

It would be cool if smtn like polarus was server side

But idk if lethal company has stuff like that

[waxen panther]

I think he said that it would be server sided if he could

[soft zephyr]

talk to the mod maker of the loader

[gaunt tangle]

he plans to ||eventually|| move to LLL

[round dome]

can the hoarding bugs on atlantica enter the ship?

[granite lily]

Idk
Haven't seen them do that yet

[round dome]

it seems that the webs from spiders on infernis can get people permanently slowed

[balmy elm]

Only map I've seen either bugs or baboons enter the ship in any way is GenericMoons Vertigo, someone showed a clip of that happening

Unsure of what's causing that, but I did notice the ship DOES hang pretty low on that map (to the point the underside framework does clip into the ground), been awhile since I've played on the map myself so unsure if it still happens

[blissful light]

with the vanilla OffMeshLinks, I think lootbugs can only get on the ship if they're flying

[round dome]

alrighty

[round dome]

it seems that worms on the surface can clip into the facility on polarus

[agile oak]

Actually I believe that’s intended :P

Worms spawn inside

[round dome]

no, i mean the model of the worm on the surface is clipping down. not the worm is attacking inside.

[granite lily]

oh lol

I'll fix that when I get home

[gaunt tangle]

ive never seen a worm spawn inside Polarus' facility yet. if it wasnt for the possibility of running into a Coil-Head, i'd run around inside until it happened

[granite lily]

The spawn chance is really low

[frank seal]

just place a navmesh where the ship should be for the hoarding bugs:)

[granite lily]

I know I can be cruel when it comes to my moons but.. I don't want to get robbed while I'm having a fun time dying to other things lol

[frank seal]

yet all i want is

[marsh panther]

The hell is this

[frank seal]

shrimp from #1196943144009351258

[marsh panther]

shrimp???

[frank seal]

here's what it does ||eat scrap like the goofy being that it is||

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1196943144009351258/1212192006227623997/mad_shrimp_disease.gif

[valid yoke]

cosmocos is unknown hazard level??

[granite lily]

Wait.. ||it eats scrap??||

[round dome]

yeah, hungry boy

[granite lily]

That explains so much

[round dome]

it has perhaps been improved upon

[granite lily]

I completely forgot to check it out yesterday

[round dome]

it is fine

[granite lily]

Throw me a dm, that way I won't forget lol

[round dome]

alrighty

[brisk drift]

Yesterday I forgot to send video, but I tried again by restarting my Steam Deck and making sure I have the most current version, but it doesn't work.

I uninstalled some mods on another try, but that didn't work either.

Asteroid-13, Infernis, Atlantica, Acidir and Gratar work perfectly for me.

I think my favorite moon is Gratar and secondly Asteroid-13 especially because of the Coil-Heads that are outside.

[granite lily]

Does anyone else have this issue?

[waxen panther]

I know Polarus takes way longer that your other moons to load, especially in multiplayer, but I’ve never had issues in solo

[granite lily]

I put out a fix for that recently

[waxen panther]

Oh how recently?

I tried it in mp in the last week

[granite lily]

Like.. 2 days ago I think

[waxen panther]

ohhh good

[brisk drift]

Yeah, I saw the update and that's why I tried again, before the last update I was getting solo and multiplayer.

[waxen panther]

Can I ask what caused it?

[granite lily]

The randomly placed trees/rocks on terrain

[waxen panther]

I didn’t expect that

[granite lily]

I had an idea but I only actually looked into it 2 days ago

[granite lily]

Does this also happen with only Polarus installed?

[brisk drift]

Yeah.

I can try it a fourth time, in case I was simply doing something wrong.

I really just install the most updated version, change the price to 0 to check that it works, load the mod and try it, I don't modify anything else, btw.

[granite lily]

I would not be surprised if I broke something again

[brisk drift]

I mean, if it works for people. XD

There may be some incompatibility with the Steam Deck.

[waxen panther]

I can try it rn if you want

Give me like 5 minutes

[blissful light]

One of my absolute favorite LC vids

[frank seal]

same

[frank seal]

2nd is this

[waxen panther]

@brisk drift @granite lily

[granite lily]

Ah

[waxen panther]

That is extremely fast god damn

[brisk drift]

Okay, I have no idea what's going on then. XDD

[granite lily]

I told you I fixed it lol

[waxen panther]

Me neither

Yea you weren’t kidding Jesus

[brisk drift]

I'm going to ask my girlfriend if she can load Polarus on her computer when she gets home.

Right now I'm trying to load Polarus, but it doesn't work.

[waxen panther]

Try it maybe outside your modpack?

[brisk drift]

I'm going to disable all mods.

[waxen panther]

Yeah

Some random mod is messing it up

Well have you checked the logs

[brisk drift]

I didn't understand the question, sorry. XD

[waxen panther]

Do you think you can send me your modpack’s code?

[brisk drift]

I would have to see how it is done on steam deck and be able to send it through discord.

Okay, it doesn't work either if I disable all the mods except the ones that make Polarus work.

I'll figure out how to send the code.

[waxen panther]

huh

also are you using like thunderstore

or you're manually modding your game

[brisk drift]

I am using r2modman.

I guess it's Thunderstore.

018df574-844f-775f-d669-1f8a2e643981

Well, I thought it was going to be more complicated. XD

[waxen panther]

lol thank you, I was making a small tutorial but you figured it out

guh

[brisk drift]

It sounds like bad news.

[waxen panther]

alright at least it does work if you disable everything else

(except the dependancies)

[brisk drift]

Well...

It's something. XD

Although I think I'd rather have Wesley's other maps than just one option. (?)

[waxen panther]

okay I added back LLL and its dependancies and it broke, lemme try something real quick

It works

your LLL config somehow broke Polarus??

I just enabled back every mod, deleted your LethalLevelLoader config and the default one works just fine

@brisk drift

[brisk drift]

Just alter the prices. O.O.

[waxen panther]

that's all you did?!

well this is weird

I added MoreMoneyStart to be able to directly go to Polarus without changing the config

but I thought you would've changed more than just the prices huh

[stray spear]

U can alter prices if u still have access to advanced company

Probably other mods u can use but it was the one I was using

[waxen panther]

he didn't have AC in his modpack, so I didn't propose it to him, but that's a solution

[brisk drift]

Okay, when my steam deck loads I'm going to delete LLL and reinstall it + the mod you told me and I'll pray it works. XD

If it works, I'll try changing the prices again and see if it works.

[waxen panther]

oh don't delete LLL, just its config

[stray spear]

Its rly simple to use for me cuz its in the game itself

[brisk drift]

That would be to delete the folder, load the game and then return to rd2modman?

[stray spear]

Was rly easy to configure but someone prob already made a better mod

[waxen panther]

press the delete button for LethalLevelLoader's config (Not BepInEx i just don't have LLL's config lol)

and it'll generate a default one when you start a new game

[waxen panther]

@brisk drift is it working?

[brisk drift]

I haven't tried it yet, I'm still charging the Steam Deck.

[brisk drift]

Although it would be a good idea to have Advance Company, the problem is that with 28 mods (I have more for host mods) my girlfriend's laptop in Lethal Company already has fps drops. XD

And a friend directly crashed the game and crossed the floor until he died.

[soft zephyr]

btw its bqck

from what i know of

[stray spear]

Oh is it?

[soft zephyr]

been back

maybe 2-3 days

just LLL wont add support for AC

so AC is manually doing it themselves

[stray spear]

I will be looking into this

[vivid vortex]

is it intended behavior for the surface of Cosmocos to not sync between players? extremely cool moon but feels very odd to have a different layout between players

[valid yoke]

wesly said it was intended and to follow the "guiding lights" whatever that is

[brisk drift]

@waxen panther Okay, I think I just figured out what the problem is.

[waxen panther]

really??

[brisk drift]

Polarus starts up quickly as Wesley says when I don't change the price.

However, if I change the price of Polarus, the map no longer works.

I have the price modified for all the windows and they all work correctly. However, the moment I change the price of Polarus, the map stops working.

I mean, I only test it when I set the price to 0 (actually the price I want to set is 140).

[gaunt tangle]

cheaper fuel make ship go VROOM to Polarus

[vivid vortex]

is that supposed to be the plants that glow? bc they dont always seem to spawn and rarely seem to actually lead to a door lol

[valid yoke]

i havn't been to cosmocos yet

[vivid vortex]

its very worth a play even if the intentional map desync kind of sucks (sorry wesley, gorgeous map otherwise)

[granite lily]

||It is "intentional", if I could fix the desync I would lol||

[vivid vortex]

oh oof

well, the desync isnt ideal but i think it says a lot to how good it is that it doesn't make it any less good :)

[worldly meteor]

There is a lag when landing on Acidir, the logs indicate the same type of error as Polarus before your fix. I think it is the same problem but less impactful
Would it be possible to take a look?

[granite lily]

It's the same issue but I'm gonna focus on some other.. stuff for now

[worldly meteor]

Alright, thanks for your feedback 🙂

[frank seal]

was it like, you saw it did this in testing and thought "oh well that kinda goes fire" and kept it

[granite lily]

It was more like, "well that's going to confuse a lot of people but it is what it is"

[gaunt tangle]

honestly, even if accidental "intentional", it inadvertently adds to the implied lore that ||Cosmocos can mess with people's minds, resulting in both mental and physical isolation||

[waxen panther]

Wait Cosmocos isn’t always the same??

Man I gotta play that moon more

It’s just so expensive

[thorny narwhal]

and not just

[fossil spear]

So I need this to make Infernis work properly, without needing Starlancer?

[valid yoke]

eclipsed theme is scary

the noise

[void basin]

Yeah, StarlancerMoons is a separate thing that you don't need

[fossil spear]

What other moons would you rec from these?

[gaunt tangle]

wait... can Eclipsed Cosmocos ||spawn more than one outdoor Bracken?||

[granite lily]

||There can always be more than one outside Bracken||

[gaunt tangle]

||... thanks for the tip ||

[thin anchor]

I wonder... Is there a changelog somewhere?

[gaunt tangle]

on each individual moon's page at the very bottom

[round dome]

the issue of weather effects vanishing upon entering/leaving seems to still remain

[past olive]

Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but has anyone been having consistent crashes on Cosmocos, particularly when re-entering the ship after landing? I tried a bit of local debugging and found that using the freecam mod pretty much always instantly caused a crash, and I've seen people frequently crash when either teleported into the ship, or walking in manually. We also use the OpenBodyCams mod which loads up a head-mounted camera that only renders when you're inside the ship, so I suspect that there might be an incompatibility with mods that spawn more cameras at runtime? I also have a friend who mentioned that ||the moon did something weird to his camera at one point, iirc it massively increased his FOV?||, and while I have no idea if that was actually the moon or simply another mod, that would feed into the hypothesis a bit.

When I get the chance I'd like to do some extra testing with OpenBodyCams to see if that's indeed what's causing the crashes, but since entering the ship isn't a consistent crash I'm not sure what I can do beyond enter and leave it a whole bunch of times with it both on and off to see if there's a difference

[frank seal]

iirc just set that to true in openbodycams' config

[past olive]

Ah, has that been discussed before then? If the crash is related to the active person on cam being inside then I suppose that does make sense, given that's typically what happens when someone gets teleported

I'll give that a go, ty 🙏

[frank seal]

if it's not my memory playing tricks again then it has been (i have a very poor memory so i very much may have dreamt it)

cuz i can barely remember someone talking about this once

[past olive]

yeahhh, it's a bit difficult (impossible?) to search through specific discord threads so I wasn't able to find anything that way, and sifting through the entirety of the mod-releases was a bit too much, so ty for bringing it up either way!

and dw I can barely remember what I had for breakfast usually

[frank seal]

yeah discord is weird when it comes to threads

especially on mobile i spent like 10 minutes looking for where the pins were located

[past olive]

shoutouts to discord changing their UI every other week ✊

there's probably a thread search function hidden somewhere but I sure can't find it

[granite lily]

I can't even remember the names of all my moons half the time lol

[past olive]

That one I've finally overcome after a while... besides acidir and gratar which I consistently get wrong

[frank seal]

i mix up gratar and atlantica

[granite lily]

Whenever I try to recall them, there's always one I'm missing
And it's always a different one too

[frank seal]

tbf i probably couldn't even get half of your moons' names

[granite lily]

Next update is certainly not going to help lol

[frank seal]

looking forward to the new moon

[past olive]

👀

[granite lily]

New moon
Definitely singular

Sometimes I forget about what information I have and haven't put out there

[past olive]

I remember seeing a teaser screenshot while randomly browsing but that's about it

but the fun is in getting surprised mid-play anyways 👀 like when I booted up the game and cosmocos was just there all of a sudden

[granite lily]

I guess lol

[frank seal]

;-;

[granite lily]

Well get ready for this singular new moon that've definitely spend all my spare time on
It'll take a minute still before the update though
I guess a teaser could be ||"Four glanced over deadly jungles"||

[past olive]

oh boy

your planets are a big hit with the groups I make packs for so that'll be a good day

[frank seal]

i was gonna use a japanese expression but i forgot nobody would know what it means

[granite lily]

A little bit of confusion never hurt anyone

[past olive]

pokemon crying rn

[tropic gorge]

Imma be honest

I aint ever find the entrance to the building at cosmocos

It’s just way too confusing and dark to find it

I tried following the lights

Both on the ground and the trees

It aint really help

[past olive]

first time we went there it was foggy and we didn't even know about that mechanic, then the day after it was stormy

my main group is still not a big fan of cosmocos after that incident, but I will make them warm up over time...

[tropic gorge]

My group hasn’t been to the moon yet, and i dont really wanna introduce them to it until i find an actual way to get to the building

[past olive]

with the ||lights|| (not sure if that needs to be spoilertagged still) I noticed that sometimes they're pretty far apart and you really have to scan your screen for the next one, or they're obscured by foliage

yeah I'd be more inclined to bring my group there if entry was more foolproof, doesn't feel right to give everyone a briefing on how to find the entrance cause I wanna let em explore organically

but then also you pay a lot to travel there, and until people get more used to the map you just won't bring back that much loot (we got more on our average assurance run than cosmocos on our first try), so the first time experience doesn't really incentivize returning ✊ 😔

[tropic gorge]

Yeahh

[past olive]

I really like the planet, so I'm trying to think of ways I can help them along

[tropic gorge]

I’m thinking of probably getting like

A glowstick mod

Just so it’d be easier

[past olive]

I know you can use a ||jetpack to fly above the trees/fog and just spot the entrance|| but half my group has never used one successfully lmao

[tropic gorge]

Yeah if one of my friends ever use one

They’re not coming back down without at minimum 34 broken bones

[past olive]

that's essentially what the ||light flowers|| are though, right? not sure if that'd really do much besides cover gaps

mine are just not coming down lmao

becomes more of a human-assisted firework

[frank seal]

personally i recommend #1205643578764693524's glowsticks

[tropic gorge]

I mean yeah, but it’s more for either marking where to go if they DO find the main, or where to go when they’re backtracking

Since sometimes i end up going in a loop without knowing how to get out

[granite lily]

Has anyone considered grabbing mspaint or a piece of paper to map out Cosmocos?

That could be an interesting approach I feel

[past olive]

my understanding was that it was ||at least pseudo-procedural|| and on that assumption I haven't

[tropic gorge]

That doesn’t feel viable, it’s not like there’s a definitive pathway like othrr moons

[past olive]

and fair, I didn't consider losing track of which way is which. to me the breadcrumb trail is already there so adding another one in the form of glowsticks wouldn't do much. though I guess you could leave a glowstick on one end of a ||light flower|| and have that indicate it's the direction to the entrance

I might mess with this value in LLL (assuming it works) just to give my groups a bit more incentive to explore

they're cowards, they lose interest in going back if it's past 5PM lmao

[tropic gorge]

Like say i took a jetpack, flew up above, took a screenshot and mapped it out. Sure, that might work for when i’m there, it wouldn’t work the next time i arrive, meaning i’d have to do that process again for the new layout. Same goes for the next time i arrive, and the next, and the next.

And you’d end up doing that for god knows how many layout combinations

[past olive]

add a parkour section with ||watchers|| that leads to a closer fire escape, ez

[tropic gorge]

it’s like trying to map out the layout of an interior every time you arrive at a moon

It’s simply just not viable

[granite lily]

It can definitely help
If you do decide to try mapping it out, you'll be able to figure out which route is open for you at the time simply by looking at which direction the plants lead you from the ship
Maybe not always directly from your map but from the experience you gained while making it

[past olive]

||How many branches are there in the generated paths? are the paths sorta seeded as a whole, or can you have, for example, 1 starting points, which then has 2 variations, then those 2 variations each have 2 variations halfway through, etc etc. (if that's something you don't mind people knowing, ofc)||

if they're uniquely memorable then it'd also just build up some muscle memory after a while, if the pattern is recognizable enough

[granite lily]

||There are 3 main branches which have sub branches, with each branch leading to a unique looking area. They shouldn't be very difficult to remember||

||There's like 10 combinations in total of which not all are completely unique||

[past olive]

ahh I see, yeah that should definitely help then! I haven't been there enough yet to ||really recognize the unique looking areas, but knowing that was an active decision means it's probably just a case of getting used to it over time. Cause recognizable landmarks are probably what I would've suggested||

||to me, with my limited visits to Cosmocos, I got the impression that there's big blue flowers close to the ship, then small blue flowers when you go towards the facility, and the green hanging bulbs once you get really close. And also the red hue of the fire escapes when you get really close. So far that pattern has felt consistent regardless of the path I've taken, though.||

that's also a grand total of 5 days spent going to cosmocos, so I haven't really had the opportunity to get to know it thoroughly. and my friends play a lot less than I do, so for them that might not really be something that'll come intuitively with what's currently in place. Ultimately if a large portion of my group doesn't want to go to "the moon where we can't find the entrance" then I just have to concede to that 😩

[granite lily]

||It's only the small blue flowers that lead you anywhere, everything else is just purely decoration, also not all paths lead to the main entrance, some will lead you to a bunch of fire exits||

Eventually I think I'll just throw the map I made for development with all the possible paths out here

[past olive]

||ah, for the big flowers/green flowers/red lights I meant that those mark the "sections" in my head, moreso than being the guiding trail||

[granite lily]

Ah ok

[past olive]

and that would probably help for my group at least, ||one of them was following me when I told them I knew where the entrance was, and then I apparently just walked through a wall for them and they just kinda accepted their death to the brackens lmao||

[granite lily]

lmao

[past olive]

speaking of which, ||how many brackens are supposed to be spawning outside? in LLL I see the max outside power set to 6 which i think means 2 brackens max? but during one of my late visits i saw like... 10? We play with LethalEscape and throughout the day they'd just been funneling outside and going past the power count, I think||

[granite lily]

||yeah I'm not entirely sure if the spawning of inside enemies outside even counts up towards the outside power level, from my experiments it doesn't so... there can be many||

[past olive]

||ah that makes sense actually. I mean given that both the moon and the facility are in the same map on a global sense, maybe brackens outside count towards inside enemy power purely because they're classified as inside enemies||

||Not that there's really a big difference between 1 or 10 anyways, due to their AI they eventually end up huddling together anyways, at which point 10 brackens is just 1 bracken with 30 hp||

[granite lily]

||Yeah exactly, you might find a parade of brackens every now and then||

[past olive]

average visit to any moon when playing with brutal company

[frank seal]

reminds me of my debug save with savage company

since it's for debug purposes i have 50k money so it buffs out the point system on savage company and i keep getting absurd events

[past olive]

||I recall you mentioning that the per-person randomization of some of the moon's objects is a "feature", so now I'm kinda curious on what impact that has on brackens in terms of desyncing. Gonna keep an eye on if any friends get abducted through walls tonight lol||

oh that one's money based? that's rough lmao

[frank seal]

there's tons of different factors and i believe money to be one of them

or maybe it's deadline idrk

[past olive]

I've stopped using brutal company-esque mods for the most part, I wish their punishing events were a bit more creative than "there are now 7200 turrets inside of the facility" 🙃

ah ok

[granite lily]

||I'm not sure actually, I'm guessing they either fly up the walls or run straight through them||

[frank seal]

savagecompany's base config can spawn up to 100 mines at worst

and like 50 outside i think

wait what.... (brutal company minus)

[past olive]

I'm always the host, not my problem 😎 but that's funny, as long as they don't get desynced it's mostly w/e anyways

[granite lily]

hmm, that might be interesting for a moon

[past olive]

now I wanna see one get snatched with the snatchingbracken mod on and see it drag someone through the wall

[frank seal]

no wesley no please no

[past olive]

balance it out, shrink it down to be just a lil guy so it fits inside the facility

in the patch notes I saw you added ||earth leviathans|| to the polarus interior, but I've never seen one yet

[granite lily]

:D

[granite lily]

They are quite rare though I did bump up their spawn rate yesterday
They have like a spawn rate of 6..? (could be 9, not entirely sure)

[past olive]

according to my LLL config they have an inside spawn weight of 2 🤔 but I'm not always sure if these numbers are an accurate reflection of what the final result will be

[granite lily]

I mean it's still random

[frank seal]

huh??? .-.

[past olive]

right, yeah maybe LLL configs are just a simplified way of representing random values. I'm basing all this off of the defaults that it provides for the overrides, which are disabled

it also says Infernis ||Doesn't have dogs in the daytime pool, and yet I consistently see dogs as soon as we land, even non-eclipsed|| so it's probably just not fully accurate

[granite lily]

Well

It's lying

[past olive]

yeah I figured LOL, makes a bit more sense now

the real enemy on infernis is the item drop pod

[granite lily]

Lol what

[past olive]

||go down, buy items at 8am thinking nothing of it, then a dog runs across the map to give everyone a kiss while they huddle to get their shovels and flashlights||

[granite lily]

lmao

It's fine

[past olive]

I suppose the inaccuracies might also just be because your moons aren't LLL based. I don't really understand the underlying systems to that degree

yeah I mean it's all w/e to me I think it's hilarious

especially when my groups tend to leave before 6pm, gotta get that chaos in somehow

[granite lily]

Well if you want chaos before 6pm, go to Etern
The chaos starts around 8:30am

[frank seal]

the only thing i don't like about etern

is the collisions on one single rock

for the jump between hills when you directly go left from the ship

[past olive]

etern has been one of my go-to's for solos, usually I hear thudding before the ship lands lmao

much like my friends are wary of cosmocos they love going to etern, all because at one point we had like 7 nutcrackers chilling outside the ship (before navmeshes were fully functional I think) and I let myself get filled with lead to make them all kill each other

...then they just started shooting each other for fun because they didn't understand that shotgun ammo is a commodity lmao

[granite lily]

I do kinda miss the nutcracker nuke waiting outside
But the late day chaos is worth it

[past olive]

usually too many giants out and about to really get a chance to go after them

the combination of not being able to move, and a giant coming towards you, definitely makes the surface terrifying

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419863569421697027/1208516024346083368/vlc-record-2024-02-17-21h49m24s-2024-02-17_20-21-12.mp4-.mp4?ex=65eccbc1&is=65da56c1&hm=a1396124035a0aa07096ae13bf1c2f810f2995cc6424dc41ef60d1fd69825ac8&

I was a hero that day 🫡

[frank seal]

holy

[stray spear]

I feel like the nutcrackers on Etern make the moon too easy to get scrap on

[fossil spear]

I haven't installed but I've seen so much talk.. what's wrong with Cosmocos?

[stray spear]

u should make it so instead they can spawn later in the day so u have to deal with chaos outside and try to get the shotgun

[frank seal]

nothing, it's just that people are lost, spoilers on how the moon works: ||the way to the entrance always changes, you have to follow small blue "flowers?"/"shrooms?" to find it, but they're usually hidden behind trees or foliage and sometimes far away from eachother|| so people have trouble finding the entrance

[fossil spear]

Is that the only one or is Acidir the same?

[frank seal]

its the only one like this

[craggy halo]

Does multiplayer work on Cosmoscos yet? nvm I think it does

[frank seal]

it has always worked???

[craggy halo]

Definitely not lol, but I just read a post saying it worked so disregard my question 👍

I will say the moon still does freeze a lot for me on the "Random seed" prompt

[atomic fiber]

Wesley himself said it was always playable with Multiplayer

[craggy halo]

I could've sworn I saw everyone in this thread talk about how it wasn't playable when it first came out...

[atomic fiber]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I never had these moons until Cosmocos has just released so idrk

[raw vortex]

What's the internal name for Asteroid-13 for use with custom interior mods? Just Asteroid-13?

[gaunt tangle]

depends which interior mod. if it's uppercase format, "Asteroid". if it's lowercase format, "asteroid". if it's level format (ex. TitanLevel), it's just "Asteroid" again.

[tawdry vortex]

gratar got stuck on the random seed bit twice in a row, hope this log helps..

we were 2, btw, multiplayer

just tested alone, didnt happen..

[round dome]

i've warmed up to etern this is so fun

[raw vortex]

So I was playing Cosmocos with some friends and we had an issue where sometimes when dying, the game would crash. I unfortunately don’t have a crash log for this (I’ll try to reproduce this later and upload one if I can), but I’m wondering if this is a known issue.

Also wondering if the water that floods the facility in Atlantica has some kind of rhyme or reason to when it disappears? Sometimes it just disappears completely (which admittedly I prefer, the map looks great but the faux water effect makes it extremely difficult to explore when using custom interiors that have verticality like the castle since you basically can’t see in front of you at all even with a flashlight)

I’m not sure if it’s possible but some kind of config or even an in-game mechanic to drain the water would be nice.

[grand coral]

Are there any known moons that don't work when the config's changed? other than Polarus I know that one

[brisk drift]

I found no problems in Asteroid, Atlantica, Infernis and Gratar. I have Acidir with the price changed, but I didn't check if it works.

[grand coral]

It could just be Polarus then
Thank you!

[calm bone]

So is cosmocos randomised for every player? Me and some friends played it for the first time and they said there was a giant wall in the way and that i walked through it

To me theres nothing there

[granite lily]

It is yeah

[glacial adder]

Quick question, is there normally a bracken that spawns on cosmocos or is this entirely something else?

[frank seal]

yes, ||brackens do spawn outside on cosmocos||

[glacial adder]

😟

[calm bone]

is it intentional?

[frank seal]

yup

[granite lily]

lmao

[granite lily]

I'd prefer if it wasn't desynced but it's kinda cool this way

[waxen panther]

It makes it all the more weird and mysterious, I like it

[weary panther]

Hia! I'm the maker of https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1205643578764693524, just like @frank seal said, my mod literally has this if you're interested xd

Glowsticks that come in stacks of 3, specifically used to mark a path!

[frank seal]

wow you really went and fished that msg out

[weary panther]

I do random searches sometimes cx

discord makes it easy to keep track of what's being said about the mod cx

[native valve]

The Wesley multiverse

The wesleyverse

[frank seal]

im waiting for the wesleyverse to come out

[gaunt tangle]

||accidentally lore friendly. i say it's a good thing||

[pale karma]

wesley: into the Wesleyverse

[valid yoke]

:0

[tropic gorge]

Wow yeah you really did go out your way to find that

Fun

Quick question tho, is there like any config to change the amt of glowsticks there are in a stack?

I feel like 3 per inventory slot would be a bit under what would be a bit sparse for attempting to navigate through a path of the size of an entire moon

Also (and this one isn’t really a big deal) are there more than one color of glowstick, just in case my other group members get confused on whether the glowstick path they’re going down was made by them or someone rlse

[weary panther]

The glowsticks visually are in a stack of 3 that reduces when dropped, so it's not really an option atm. They're generally intended to be used while a group/team explores a section making them use multiple stacks (or as you said having them be more scarce). They're relativity cheap, so more intended to be used in abundance on high profit moons later on in the game as a safety investment c:

[weary panther]

This is planned but currently not a feature

[stray spear]

worthy sacrifice

wow

cant spell today

[raw vortex]

Crashed randomly on Cosmocos. Here's my log, not sure if it contains anything useful.

Not the first time I've crashed on Cosmocos specifically. I've generally had it happen when someone dies.

[patent iris]

I must have missed something, but I don't seem to be able to get it to hide Cosmocos for direct navigation and require the scavenger hunt -- it shows up immediately. Our play group was hoping to have to do the puzzle side first, is there a way to enable that?

[granite lily]

You can try an older version of the bundle (I think 2.0.11 was the last version before it was added)
That or you can install "Last Known Position of Cosmocos" with the current version of the bundle but Cosmocos will be available still

[rain sonnet]

Is there a config for these moons?

Im tryna get rid of outside mobs

the coilhead to be specific

[oak tree]

no

and why

[uneven cave]

It's worth noting that a similar thing happens on Budapest, and I had this crash reported on Cosmocos and Budapest both since OpenBodyCams exacerbates the problem by rendering the world twice. Both moons crashed with the same native stack trace relating to shadow rendering

top two frames of the stack trace I got from the dump with WinDbg:

0000000b`a66ba270 00007ffb`7df6b561     : 000001d6`61f94420 000001d6`61f80850 000001d5`5f5ead30 0000000b`a66dbc80 : UnityPlayer!SendShadowCullingCallbacks+0x295
0000000b`a66ba690 00007ffb`7df70e12     : 000001d5`b000c2b0 000001d5`b000c2b0 0000000b`a66de420 00000000`00000001 : UnityPlayer!PrepareDrawShadowsCommandStep1+0x261
0000000b`a66ba970 000001d9`5d90a48a     : 0000000b`a66dbd00 00000000`00000001 000001d5`50d08290 00000000`00000001 : UnityPlayer!ScriptableRenderContext::ExecuteScriptableRenderLoop+0x242

not sure if any of this information may be useful in narrowing down the cause, but I can hope so

I'm sure it won't be the last time I'll hear about this type of crash lol

[tepid fulcrum]

Is there some sort of configuration where I can alter the enemy spawns on the wesley moons? I do like the coil heads on asteroid-13 specifically, but with the others I'd rather have it with the normal few coming out at nighttime, instead of certain enemies at any time of day

[topaz star]

Yeah I'm getting this too. Seems to be only on cosmocos where I'm getting the issue.

[uneven cave]

do you use Budapest as well? I'm curious if the issue is still happening there

[topaz star]

actually, I don't use Budepest at all. First time got to cosmocos today lol. @uneven cave

[uneven cave]

gotcha, no worries, I was just curious

[tawdry vortex]

playing these on myown testing them before presenting them to my friends, these and auralis are seriously my favourites

and the interiors also changing with the moons makes me really happy

its one thing to say its as good as vanilla and its another to say its better..

this is better

[untold lodge]

Forwarded this thread post to see if you can verify this error being caused by the mod or not.
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1213956360891277402

[pale karma]

i decided to make another fanmade wesley moon icon for fun

if it were an actual moon it would be called Elines

[patent iris]

thanks to pool room interior, we were able to give a hoarding bug a life preserver on Atlantica's exterior before we left so that he could safely float around

[round dome]

so kind

[rain sonnet]

Because it one shots me on asteroid when i spawn on the moon

You either make it alive to the ship

or once you enter the building and you decide to leave it one shots you while going outside

Makes no sense to put it outside not gonna lie

Because you cant leave the moon

[granite lily]

I don't know what mods you are using but I can leave asteroid just fine

[lyric fossil]

@rain sonnet You need to approach it a little differently, than other moons. Staying in groups has been vital for me on Asteroid, it helps you a lot with the outside enemies 👍🏼

[tawdry vortex]

yeah i find that these moons all have different playstyles

had to juke a giant in infernis using different vertical levels to escape or hide from it

i died because i had 50 tons of scrap on me and could barely run but it was very fun

wondering why i couldnt enter atlantis and seeing the water rising below me because i spent 5 mins killing loot bugs outside was super cool

[fossil spear]

Had an issue jumping through Polarus' moving ice blocks where me and a friend just went through and down into the sea that doesn't really drown. Is there any way to fix it or make the ice blocks just not move?

[granite lily]

wot

[tawdry vortex]

hmmm is it normal for the interior water on that one moon to not drown you?

its kinda just there

[granite lily]

yeah
it should lower when you go below

[tawdry vortex]

hm?

i meant if the water is supposed to do something or if its just decorative

[granite lily]

It is decorative

[tawdry vortex]

will there be plans to make it do something?

woul b cool i thought i was gonna drown for a moment lol

[granite lily]

nope

[tawdry vortex]

aw

[tropic gorge]

I believe they meant that they and their friend tried to parkour on the ice blocks that are floating over the water, and ended up falling through into the water, though they didn’t drown, since the water doesn’t go that low

That’s happened to me before, minus the clipping through the ice blocks

I used the advanced company’s flippers to swim through the water, and when i got low enough in the water, i ended up exiting out of it, falling to the bottom of the pit that was supposed to drown me

But since the water didn’t go that low, i ended up stuck at the bottom of the pit

[granite lily]

ah
I was more confused about the clipping through the ice thing lol

[granite lily]

You can walk around the lake I suppose

[tropic gorge]

Btw yeah you should probably make the water as deep as the pit

If you didn’t already

Just so if someone ends up falling to the bottom and doesn’t die from the height, they’ll die from the water

[tawdry vortex]

i find that gratar's scrap is very numerous, usually two handed items, but theyre all kinda cheap

i always spend all day going back and forth evading eyeless dogs to bring stuff back and by the end of it its 200 something at most

am i missing something or just bad luck

might jsut be bad luck, since i almost exclusively find engines axles and big bolts..

[granite lily]

afaik this could be an issue with configs of.. one of the mods, can't remember which but it somehow prevents the custom scrap from spawning

[tawdry vortex]

oh its not that

i did see custom scrap af ew times, like logs and springs

but it seems very rare on gratar...

might be my luck, so ill just bump the rates up a bit on my end

[granite lily]

springs?

[tawdry vortex]

coil*

from asteroid

[granite lily]

That's not part of the scrap pool on Gratar

[tawdry vortex]

oh i know

im just mentioning, ive found custom scrap before

just seemed very uncommon on gratar

[fossil spear]

These at one point were kinda off sync I think, and we fell through and remained alive underwater

She jumped on different ones and fell after me

[granite lily]

Well something is wrong
Vanilla loot has the lowest spawn rate there

[tawdry vortex]

i noticed in the lll config

i set them lower

[frank seal]

personally found gratar to have the most custom scrap out of all of wesley's moons .-.

[tawdry vortex]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

my luck then

or some mod problems

[round dome]

try setting the LLL config to remove the vanilla scrap, and see if anything generates

[tawdry vortex]

ill do that if it keeps happenin

[tawdry vortex]

welllll

may just be LLL

hm

i did enable custom config to add a few modded robotic enemies to the enemy pool and make them appear more since its on theme..

maybe the custom config just messes it up, ill turn it off

[frank seal]

lemme see rq

[tawdry vortex]

think just the act of activating the LLL thingy for "Enable Content Configuration = true" messes it up but im going to test that first

ooh yep it fixed it

sucks.. does lethal expansion have a config thing or is there anything else i can use

[frank seal]

you can try #1213985212686532638 but i'm not sure if it works

[tawdry vortex]

alright ty

[frank seal]

also i just got gratar on flooded??

[tawdry vortex]

i have too once but it doesnt seem to do much

[frank seal]

yeah just double water layer

tho it's kinda op with meteomultiplier

[hot otter]

what mod shows that scrap display?

[frank seal]

#1213797469192855553

[hot otter]

much thanks

[gaunt tangle]

so question about the giants that spawn on Infernis. are they technically different entities from vanilla giants in order to make them function on the moon? i ask because FairGiants and the motion sense mod dont seem to affect them

[raw vortex]

This doesn’t really work on some custom interiors, specifically Castle from MoreInteriors

[balmy elm]

Castle is via Scoopy's no?

Unless MoreInteriors added a 2nd interior that I'm not aware of

[thorny narwhal]

Yes

[jovial beacon]

yea lll defaults scrap and enemy spawnpool to vanilla
and it most likely wont be fixed because people keep telling the dev that it does work for them when both log files and config shows it clearly doesn't

but im just salty tbh

[tawdry vortex]

:(

enemies did work, btw

saw like 4 boombas outside as i specified

but if i turn in configuration itll override scrap...

[twin flower]

hey guys, i literally just joined the server so sorry if i'm uninitiated, but ive been making a modpack the past few weeks and I'm making cosmocos as the ultra-hard last moon (cause its such an awesome moon, I'm a huge fan), and i'm testing with a friend and we noticed that which parts of the map are open and where the blue lights path leads is different between us most of the time, i was reading a lil through the thread and saw someone suggest to do desyncs on purpose a while ago, so is that what's going on here or is this something else

i also like stripped down the modpack into just advanced company, chat commands and cosmocos (and the dependencies) and it still was happening so I'm guessing it's not a mod compatibility thing

(I'm actually so nervous to be messaging in here i feel like im in front a high council right now or sumn, like i dont know the rules or norms around here or if this is like a common thing thats happened)

[oak tree]

yep this is a high council

you shall be banished for asking questions

[twin flower]

damnit, ...well i gave it my best shot

lol

[oak tree]

the desync isnt something wesley wanted

but I think he doesnt know how to sync it to all players (I think, you should wait for an explanation from Wesley himself tho)

[oak tree]

well atleast for his other moons

I think he likes the desync on cosmocos

[twin flower]

ahhh okay

i guess that makes sense

i know as soon as i show it to my friend with incredibly high standards he's gonna throw a fit but if it's intentional I guess I can just tell him that (or if it's not i could just tell him it is lol)

[fair zenith]

i feel like at least with cosmocos' desyncs it could be fixed by tying the map gen to the seed?

[twin flower]

that's a great idea actually

[fair zenith]

not sure how other desyncs with player input could be fixed, though things like asteroid 13's lights could take something from the power box inside, i dunno

not directly connected but just copying the code sorta thing

[twin flower]

yeah I haven't worked in Unity before so I could be talking outta my ass but yeah I feel like tying it to the seed could be like a free sync

[abstract heron]

desync will be solved by moving to LLL

[twin flower]

is that something wesley's planning on doing

[abstract heron]

I believe so

[twin flower]

what's like the lore behind the switch from expansion to LLL, cause I feel like over the last few weeks ive seen more and more things move over to LLL

[abstract heron]

Nothing malicious. LE came first and when I started making stuff I was under the impression the LE dev wasn't looking to work with anyone at that time to I started making LLL

the time i could put into LLL increased at the same time the time Holo could put into LE decreased

[twin flower]

oh my lord you're the one who makes LLL lmao I had no idea, I'm so sorry sir/ma'am
that makes sense though, thank you

[marsh panther]

a part of me wishes the devs had [name] (Mod) near their name -u-'

the most popular mod you've created, shove it near yer name

Some don't share the same name from github/thunderstore to discord, 'n some don't even put their mod out as a thread

so it could be "[Discord name], [Author Name] - [Mod Name]"

abbreviated if the mod name is ludicrously long

[blissful light]

:3c

[marsh panther]

:3c

[tired monolith]

People keep mentioning some sort of puzzle involving Cosmocos, are you supposed to unlock it or something? It's definitely just unlocked by default

There's the whole Last Known Location thing, but trying to route to that just does nothing

[agile oak]

the initial release of cosmocos involved a puzzle that requires all of wesleys other moons to unlock it

(unlocking the moon was broken in multiplayer though so he just released it by itself)

wesley has a pattern of not syncing things between clients :P (will get fixed in LLL port)

[abstract heron]

he kinda cant

[agile oak]

oh pfft

my bad 😢

[abstract heron]

LE loads moons by prefab injection which has literally different rules for networking which require explicit code

where as LLL loads moons as scene files which just are network spawned out of the box

[marsh panther]

I still won't go there (if I can even get my pack together again...) until we do the easter egg

could I ask of Wesley or someone to create like... one of those gameplay walkthroughs of whoever already gone through it all? Thinking of like spoiler-free walkthrough where there's 2-3 hints per section to nudge. Like.. (as far as I can think of a hint, since we only have what seems to be 45...50% progress?) Example:
Etern: ||Contains 1 Letter||
Obtained: ||Outside||
Additional Info: ||There are no exterior logs||
Spoiler: ||The third letter is a Capital R||

Something like that. From top to bottom - nudging from "If" to "Where" to "How" to "What". Not detailing if any of those even have a response or not o, o

We're going to still attempt to figure the rest... but like - some of them we're stuck on. As if the solution isn't possible to obtain there or we're not looking/reading/hearing right somewhere.

I tried to make an example out of what I think is the most obvious step

[tired monolith]

The only REALLY bad desync issue I found was the Asteroid 13 lights just not working for clients

But Asteroid 13 is a map you only go to once and then never again anyways

[valid yoke]

wait what?

[tired monolith]

It's so unnecessarily difficult for a free map that I don't see why you'd ever go to it after going once, getting a good laugh out of it and then leaving

[granite lily]

||Asteroid-13 | 2 | inside||
||Atlantica | 1 | outside||
||Infernis | 0 | outside||
||Gratar | 1 | inside||
||Acidir | 1 | outside||
||Polarus | 1 | outside||
||Etern | 1 | outside||
Will something like this help?

[tired monolith]

And I just kinda assumed that was the point of it

[granite lily]

The point of that moon is that it's a truly spooky moon from which you can get some really good loot early on
But it's like a risk and reward thing since the moon itself is quite difficult
To most at least

[tired monolith]

Maybe it's just me, but coilheads aren't as much of a terrifying enemy as they are that enemy that when you see one it's more of a "Ah goddamn it, not again"

Like a coilhead production moon is a necessary evil, I get it, someone had to be the one to do it

But coilheads aren't scary, they're just an annoying major inconvenience

[agile oak]

The ambience on asteroid is though :P

[tired monolith]

Oh absolutely, until you turn the lights on and the dread of having to play the entire moon backpedaling sets in

[marsh panther]

coilheads are literally the worst interior enemy

and I've added numerous more to the game -w -

their threat is slightly counterable now with mods I got to lock the door, but it still requires a dead-end section of the map you are willing to cut off with a key. Assuming you can get there safely.

[marsh panther]

Sort of- but the moons to be visible prior to unspoiling it... with each section separated. I'll take that and edit it- but yes, ty for the help ^-^

Here we go .3. ... ty for the info @granite lily

= MOON | # | LOCATION
Asteroid-13 | || 2 || | ||inside ||
Atlantica | || 1 || | ||outside||
Infernis | || 0 || | ||outside||
Gratar | || 1 || | ||inside ||
Acidir | || 1 || | ||outside||
Polarus | || 1 || | ||outside||
Etern | || 1 || | ||outside||

Ensured to make it impossible to tell # or location based off spoiler size, whilst also showing the moon... wait

why the hell did I thought there were more than 7 for this easter egg... 😓 ... -w-'

anyways- that'll help immensely.

ALSO WHAT..... REALLY?.... .... ||THERE IS ONE OUTSIDE ON ATLANTICA?!?!||

||WE WERE ON THAT MOON FOR LIKE TWO QUOTAS SCAVENGING EVERY DARN NOOK AND CURVE OF THAT MAP~... WHAT~?.... omg...||

[granite lily]

|| yes ||

[marsh panther]

... (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[granite lily]

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

[marsh panther]

||We literally.... jumped around with epic jumps, had super extension ladders, jetpacks, we got on top of all the god damn ledges 'n buildings we could physically walk to... what...||

||are we blind? ._.||

[granite lily]

Have you found any of the little lore notes inside?

[marsh panther]

like.... 2 - none of em really hint at anything.

[granite lily]

Look for note 3

That one might help

[marsh panther]

😮‍💨 ... Okey . ,.

At least we have a goal instead of ||wasting time running around the darn outside for ages|| -w-' ...

hopefully only me sees this conversation out of em all -u-

I like le discovery.

Ty for the help! o, o

[granite lily]

np lol

[tawdry vortex]

tip: they have a short attention span

if you backpedal enough without breaking line of sight and instead go too far from it while staring itll get bored and walk off anywhere else

interior this doesn't work very well unless you lock it with a door and run before it opens it (they have a delay)

but you can lose them

outside with a big exterior like asteroid13 you can do that fairly easy

inconveniencing, but possible

that said its normal to have favorites lol

not all moons are for everyone

[tired monolith]

If you're including modded ones that are meant to fit with vanilla you can't say that when Mimics exist

[marsh panther]

I don't count them as a lethal interior entity, since they can't kill you without irritating them.

They cannot kill you ever unless provoked. ;p

It's like calling a spore lizard a harmful entity when they are good bois

[tired monolith]

Fair

They're still an infinitely worse feature than Coilheads could ever be

[tawdry vortex]

i like mimics, i just tuned the settings so that its very 50/50

either no mimics and rarely one, or a lot of doors and you need a shovel if you want to find out whichbones real

so its almost always obvious that theres mimics because you walk into a room and theres like 7 exits

no shovel? gamble time or find the entrance again

[frank seal]

wait... there are ||0 notes outside on infernis? or have i not understood||

do we win smth if we find all?

i wanna do the thing i'm best at, be a no-lifer and find everything before i have to go (which is in like 2h30 from now)

[granite lily]

Well there is something on Infernis ||but not a direct piece of the puzzle, more of a start||

[frank seal]

ah

[granite lily]

The prize was Cosmocos for a bit but ||I've put something else there now.. something.. secret||

[frank seal]

||i just found polarus's one so fast lol||

[fleet wave]

Can anyone help me fix this?
[not related to LLL(FIX)]
This LLL error occurs when trying to load a mod's interior onto Wesleys planets

This error was only seen on the moons: Asteroid-13 and Polarus

Of course, I could just remove the ability to spawn mod interiors on these moons, but that's too easy

[frank seal]

||im kinda wondering on atlantica if it has to do with the|| ||pack of snails right by an octopus||

[granite lily]

lol
it does not

[frank seal]

sad

[fleet wave]

Atlantica works perfectly with any interior.

[frank seal]

i got asteroid, atlantica and acidir left

[fleet wave]

I think this may be due to Backrooms, they may cause some compatibility issues

[frank seal]

oh welp acidir's was a fast find

[fleet wave]

I like all planets from Wesley, I use the full moon pack

[frank seal]

i was talking abt this

[willow plank]

maybe you like to hear this, the vanilla people from zeekerss server like your moons alot

[granite lily]

:D

[karmic gulch]

hey wesley, when did the contents of the code change to the new items?

[granite lily]

While back

[mild steppe]

Should I download the whole pack?

Or just choose the two I feel that fit more within the confines of vanilla?

Cause I'm making a more immersive/realistic modpack and I want to balance it with a new moon or two-

With custom scrap located on these moons-

[round dome]

what moons are you thinking of

[mild steppe]

so far my mind is on astroid 13

and gratar

and also polarus

[round dome]

gratar is pretty good in terms of realism yeah

[mild steppe]

ah okay

[polar bobcat]

Download what you like

Idk why your asking us

As it’s all subjective

[mild steppe]

fair point

[polar bobcat]

I like them all if you where asking for peoples opinions on the moons

Other than like the 850 desert moon I forgot the name of

[round dome]

etern?

[polar bobcat]

Yea

I think

[round dome]

etern's really fun when it's not being a lil unfair

[gaunt tangle]

Etern is excellent for getting a ton of loot||, and even better at having an outdoor Nutcracker snipe you from several yards away with a close range firearm, thus forcing you to lose your loot in solo||

[tawdry vortex]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hexi/HexiBetterShotgun/v/0.1.0/

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[polar bobcat]

I just don’t like the map layout tbh

[gaunt tangle]

oh i aint changin ammunition. im just annoyed by their potshots. still, wouldnt be a proper nutboy without their challenging mechanics

[tawdry vortex]

oh no this is uh

should fix the long range issue

Shotguns should be far more consistent up close, and usually less lethal at range due to having spread.

tldr

shotgun behave like most other game's

[gaunt tangle]

hmm, but then i cant snipe Manticoils for loot (mob drop mod)