Wesley's Moons/Interiors/Weathers/Variants/General/Mrov

[latent nexus]

which also sent me to the backrooms a lot i just forgot what mod had the poison 🗿

[willow plank]

just follow the lights turn it on, follow the sandpath not that hard..

#1204432295025578014 message map

[high stone]

what is a tree biscuit

[agile oak]

This is a vanilla game thing, extra apparatus rooms sometimes spawn without an apparatus.

People call em fake aparatus rooms

That’s an issue with one of your other mods, not these. Possible suspects for that could be

1. helmet camera mod (the mods generate everything in your ship a second time, unless configured)
2. Unoptimised scrap, or bad scrap mods

[frank seal]

a xmas biscuit in the form of a tree

[high stone]

Ohhhhh

Coulda just said br*tish people not knowing the correct words

[fleet wave]

how fix this ?

[frank seal]

just ignore

it doesnt break anything

[pale karma]

Wait the body cam mod can fuck up my hand when I bring custom scrap from other mods to the ship?

[frank seal]

if not setup properly and on certain modded moons yes

[simple mulch]

@granite lily Now that all moons in the logo are made what will you be making next?

[granite lily]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[simple mulch]

In my experience polaris is very resource intensive it has to load for around 2 minutes before landing

[simple mulch]

Do you have plans for a redesign of your first moon?

The desert one

Overall it's a great moon, but the unnatural pointy hills that cover the landscape could use a rework in my opinion

[hardy pebble]

He's going to rebrand his Company into a hardware store and start selling scrap by the pound

[acoustic plank]

How does one route to the last known position of Cosmocos. I tried to but could not get it to register. Or is that part of the puzzle?

[latent nexus]

YO cosmoscos is out https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Magic_Wesley/Cosmocos/

i KNEW it was gonna be purple

[waxen panther]

It’s a very cool moon

I love the interior

[latent nexus]

it has custom interiors?

[waxen panther]

Not exactly

Play it

You must

[latent nexus]

ill update my computer then play it

how much credits it cost

[hardy pebble]

1000

Could be wrong

[latent nexus]

damn

i guess it makes sense

i check it out i got a solo save thats going well

[void basin]

Me omw to Wesley's Moons

[frank seal]

crazy

"interior designer" wesley you should make interiors now i guess

[upbeat stone]

It's all foreshadowing, since the moon exteriors have been created, now he's moving on to mod/design the interiors

[simple mulch]

The ARG begins!

[bleak pawn]

anyone know for Cosmocos if ||the outdoor bracken is capped, like if i kill it will another spawn or stop, and if more than one can spawn at a time?||

[round dome]

||i believe it only spawns once||

[bleak pawn]

oo ok ty

[gaunt tangle]

well, if you enjoyed makin em, i wouldnt mind even more moons. especially ones with individual lore nuggets

[waxen panther]

But is the Cosmocos cinematic universe over?

[frank seal]

so

i can finally talk about asteroid

i just went and did this (full map)

my issue is

• the lack of visibility of the path once at the button
• the main entrance not being the first point of attention

[chilly drift]

Is cosmocos included in the wesley moon pack or do i need to add it seperately

[frank seal]

it is

[hasty scaffold]

lc office makes this mod not load properly right

[chilly drift]

lc_office had issues yesterday where picking up items from that mod would softlock your game

[hasty scaffold]

ah

are there any specific mods that make it so moons just dont load

i havent been able to play multiplayer on this

[round dome]

what moon are you trying to go to? i've heard polarus has been having issues and cosmocos doesn't support multiplayer yet

[hasty scaffold]

asteroid 13

this was a week or two ago though and we havent tested since then, would probably be worth to retry

[round dome]

yeah

[granite lily]

It should

[gaunt tangle]

it is. played with friend. watched streamer play it (even when it was manual installation)

[round dome]

oh

huh

[marble monolith]

is the last known position of cosmocos moon still included in the moon pack now? or do you need to download that separately if you still want to do the puzzle

[round dome]

gotta download it seperately

[marble monolith]

🫡

would it be better to just switch to the individual mods and not include the real cosmocos until we're done for the sake of the experience? or is it needed in some way

i can't tell if you can just route straight to it if you haven't solved the puzzle now or not

[granite lily]

You can do that

[round dome]

yeah that seems good

[round dome]

you can

[marble monolith]

i see, i'll do that then 🫡 thanks!

[marsh panther]

@granite lily are we supposed to be able to land somewhere at the last known position?

or is it supposed to be indefinite generation . ,.

[round dome]

you're supposed to land

[marble monolith]

i'm having the same thing, it just sits on the random seed text

[marsh panther]

^

[marble monolith]

but the audio still plays normally so i wasn't sure if it was intentional

[marsh panther]

I'm stuck on here

[round dome]

odd

likely a mod compatibility

[marsh panther]

doesn't work with LLL? .- .

LEC?

[granite lily]

It should work with LLL

[marsh panther]

does it brick if a custom interior tries to go on it? . ,.

cause I don't know the internal moon name to prevent the custom interiors from affecting it if it's a landable explorable place

and i hope to god it isn't literally lastknownpositionofcosmocos =w=

[atomic fiber]

Are you using the bundle or the separate puzzle mod

[marsh panther]

separate

I don't have the bundle.

[atomic fiber]

Oh then yea I have no clue lol

[granite lily]

It's not even in the bundle anymore

[marsh panther]

I even have the cosmocos map but it's disabled, I wanna do this whole thing first

whatever it is

[atomic fiber]

Yea if he was using the bundle I was gonna say it’s just “Cosmocos” now lol

[marsh panther]

I'm sure after a session or two I'mma give up, and some vid will explain it all

but I'll give it a go

hopefully whatever it is doesn't require that landing to succeed - because I don't think we can land there without infinite generation

[granite lily]

Oh.. yeah, map is just broken
I'll fix it real quick

[marsh panther]

🤣 ... 👌

Do we need to land there for the journey of figuring stuff out to begin, or do all we need is the audio we heard?

cause we did hear all the audio, and I'm presuming the first planet we should land on from it

[granite lily]

Might take Thunderstore a minute but I've fixed it

[granite lily]

I mean the audio is the only important part yeah

[soft zephyr]

i am positive if you leave and rejoin the game while on a custom moon, it can do that

since it says "Foggy" and you are able to reselect it in the terminal

[frank seal]

i'm too lazy to use words so imma use paintdotnet (first is retracing of the map, second is how i'd imagine it with some explanations)

imo the button is too much of a 'getting lost' hazard to new players and chore to players who know the map

[soft zephyr]

its not bad getting to the button

you mainly only need if (if you know the map) to see enemies. but it can turn itself off cna't it?

[frank seal]

makes newer players get lost and i personally wouldnt use it

[soft zephyr]

the only reason i would do the button is to see outside enemies

[frank seal]

my friends also agree we'd rather hear where the enemies are than spend 2 stamina bars of waiting to get to the button and enable lights

[soft zephyr]

it would be way better if they were server sided

[frank seal]

if what would be?

[soft zephyr]

the lights

they are client sided for some reason, same with the elevator in that one moon

[unkempt fjord]

These maps rock

[frank seal]

didn't even know they were client sided

[frank seal]

literally

[soft zephyr]

yea, its annoying

[waxen panther]

I found the giant coilhead while looking for Cosmocos clues lmao

It scared the shit out of me

[frank seal]

lol

i found it while first looking around

[waxen panther]

I didn’t think there would actually be anything in the craters

[soft zephyr]

to me, it was to be expected. craters are caused by crashes of other rock.

[waxen panther]

True

@granite lily how long did it usually take you between starting to design a moon and posting it?

Most of the designs are pretty simple yet well thought out and fleshed out, so I would assume around a week?

[granite lily]

Didn't really keep track
I think it took me like 1.5/2 weeks to release Asteroid, Gratar, Polarus and Atlantica
No idea how much time I spend on each individually

[frank seal]

btw, do you use blender for making the maps?

[waxen panther]

You’re a pretty fast worker honestly damn

[waxen panther]

I’m pretty sure he’s using Unity for at least 90% of the job

Unless he makes his own 3d models

[agile oak]

um am i missing any moons?

[cinder flame]

Probably not

[agile oak]

imma make yours a colored set :)

[cinder flame]

thx

[agile oak]

um :P idk if i need to be thanked for that cause im just crediting you lol

you made em so thank you

[frank seal]

haven't tested them myself but i've noted down DMFMaps to try

[agile oak]

thats more than one moon right?

[frank seal]

its a moonpack yup

[agile oak]

okie :P

https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVNqf-4FA=/

i'll be updating this from now on hopefully!

I'm trying to see what people's favorite maps are

[frank seal]

no viewing as guest :c

a?

[agile oak]

PFFT

my bad

fixed hehe

i wrote an entire section on how to make your own copy of the template shareable

and then didnt do my own right

🤡

i just added budapest and Secret Labs

[tepid halo]

is there any point of having the last known location of cosmocos moon if cosmocos is now out ?

[limpid sandal]

what does cosmocos last position do? is that what makes it a puzzle or is it just like that by default

[tepid halo]

thats what im sayin

is there any point in having it installed because its not an actual moon

[gaunt tangle]

only reason it would have to even exist is if it's updated to not waste a day when visiting

[agile oak]

yes it is?

wait is it not?

[gaunt tangle]

it's a spot in space with a drifting AI bound to a monitor

[soft zephyr]

its just a message and its techincally a moon

[soft zephyr]

yea

[gaunt tangle]

no mass to land on

[atomic fiber]

Are giants supposed to spawn on Atlantica in clear weather

[karmic gulch]

i dont think weather conditions influence mob spawbs

[atomic fiber]

Giants don't normally spawn in the daytime though, do they?

[balmy elm]

No, at least via vanilla terms outdoor enemies typically have spawn curves that spawns them later in the day (somewhere around 1 - 5pm is usually when the first outdoor enemy will start to show up)

I'm unsure of what Atlantica's outdoor spawn curve looks like, but in the past I've seen in Infernis a giant already on the map beside the ship which is so just, ew lol (unsure if that's been changed via the more recent updates)

[atomic fiber]

Ah ok. Cuz I landed on Atlantica for the first time and there was a giant just camping the path to get over to the main entrance

[agile oak]

WOAHH!!!

I landed at polarus and a worm immediately jumped over the entire map.... that looked so cool :P

[balmy elm]

How was the loading on the map? I recall last time I was trying it there were reports of it being endless or just taking an absurdly long time compared to other maps

[agile oak]

Yep, it’s still pretty long.

But the map itself is incredibly cool pun not intended

The scrap is also neat

[blissful grail]

will cosmocos be in the wesleys moons pack

or should I just add it by itself

[latent nexus]

yeah i was about to ask that same question

[granite lily]

It's already in there

[agile oak]

There are so many fire exits in acidir and the mansion is so dark that while I was playing I thought the fire exit I was using was desynced

When in reality I was just leaving through another fire exit

It made me feel really lost which was super cool :P

[granite lily]

It's madness setting in lol

[gaunt tangle]

so i finally found the Crescent of Curses. ||was not expecting a black croissant with a few eyeballs here and there||

[latent nexus]

yeah its bad when you leave all your scrap outside that fire aswell

[limpid sandal]

is the outisde of cosmocos desynced for anyone else?

my friends can walk through this cliff in the way for me thats towards the facility

[charred adder]

should I have LethalSDK installed fo your moons?

[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script (LethalSDK.Editor.TerrainChecker) on this Behaviour is missing!

I get this yellow warning for your moons since I don't have it installed atm

[gaunt tangle]

judging from what ive seen, the pathing is different almost every time you visit, thus resulting in different geography. i can imagine this would be an issue if someone in the group is using something nobody else has

[limpid sandal]

also is there any way to make it required to find cosmocos before being able to go to it?

[latent nexus]

im pretty sure the last known location does that

[atomic fiber]

this is just because LEC is outdated. It doesn't cause any problems though so you can just ignore that

[charred adder]

Ah thank you

[atomic fiber]

Np. Went through a mini rabbit hole this morning over the same exact thing lmao

[limpid sandal]

I was able to go it without going to any of the other moons

wait let me see if I actually have it installed lol

wait

yeah I do

weird

oh do I have to uninstall the actual moon?

I thought it was a dependency

[latent nexus]

if you have wesleys moons pack it comes with the non mystery version

if you downgrade it should have it though instead

[limpid sandal]

I think Im getting desyncs with client and host on these moons

Im seeing fog and nobody else does

on infernis

[latent nexus]

oh yeah thats from LLL or more company

syncing configs has seemed to semi fix this for me

[limpid sandal]

we should have the same configs they copied my mod code

[latent nexus]

yeah i also have done this and i still get issues

ive been trying advanced company to stop the desyncing of credits but these issues arent very reversable without removing LLL which is a source mod for a lot

im trying to be a little more respectful because batby is quick to respond with something

[limpid sandal]

ah

btw for finding cosmocos are the clues around the map or as scrap in the facility?

[latent nexus]

as scrap

putting clues around the map wouldve been too easy for wesley

you can dm people who have already found it for some non spolier hints and they might help you

i havent been able to do the puzzle myself due to time contraints

[round dome]

it's both

[latent nexus]

oh yeah there is writing on some maps like etern

[limpid sandal]

is the one in infernis a scrap?

[latent nexus]

infernis has notes which ive heard are part of the puzzl

if you get stuck you could probably scroll up to the converstations of the people figuring it out a few days ago

[limpid sandal]

true

I think I found that note before it was a thing

but not lately

[latent nexus]

notes are quite rare and even more rare looking for a specific one

[floral remnant]

is there a known problem with atlantica loading times?

i dont have LLL nor any custom interiors

[balmy elm]

The Wesley moon that I recall has some chunky load times is Polarus

[floral remnant]

it's stuck on this

[atomic fiber]

In my experience, if it’s taking forever to load a moon in multiplayer, it’s usually because a client has poor connection or high ping

[latent nexus]

this can get stuck regardless of ping it is a common bug that happens with a lot of mods

[hasty kite]

@granite lily is asteroid supposed to be free?

[granite lily]

Yeah

[latent nexus]

free because nobody payin to go to that hell of a planet

[simple mulch]

Eehhh it's not that hard

[latent nexus]

i just played it got a bunch of scrap than got detroyed by a coil outside bruh before 2 pm which isnt super unfair but still not for first option for free moons. im not tryna be negative but you get what i mean

[willow plank]

in my setting asteroid has 100% coilhead spawns only

:)))))

[simple mulch]

Yeah a moon like that Is a nightmare on single player

[atomic fiber]

Ah ok. Usually the only times I’ve experienced it is whenever I play with friends with slower connections

[latent nexus]

yeah

i only played it because friend said to do it

not a moon you can stay on for a while

[upbeat stone]

My experience with Asteroid-13 was being ganged by 4 coilheads inside the facility while playing solo. Had 3 on my line of sight, and while I was trying to back up to a wall, the fourth one just came and said hello from behind me. It ended as well as how you'd expect. 😵‍💫

[latent nexus]

yeah that usually happens during the later hours inside

[granite lily]

That's default outside lol

[latent nexus]

makes me kinda miss the eyeless dogs

[latent nexus]

will modded enemies like the shy guy still spawn outside bc they do inside

[granite lily]

Yeah

[latent nexus]

yeah i realized the modded enemies still spawn inside which have caused me to die to coils a lot or die to them because i dont realize their coming

[willow plank]

i mean inside

unless its 100% inside too

and i mean nothing else spawns then coilheads

[granite lily]

It's like 98% for inside

[willow plank]

oh

well that changes alot haha

[simple mulch]

Wait coils heads spawn outside on asteroid? 🤯 I've been there twice and it's only been dogs

[waxen panther]

💀 wait what

[simple mulch]

Was this a recent update?

[waxen panther]

That’s scary

[granite lily]

yeah

[waxen panther]

He probably added that with starlancer’s ai

[simple mulch]

True

[atomic fiber]

Yea it’s scary landing on a pitch black moon and out of nowhere you hear little footsteps sprinting in your direction

[waxen panther]

My friends got to play on Polarus for the first time yesterday and they all jumped at the intro sandworm lmao

It’s insane

[atomic fiber]

I’ve only been able to explore Asteroid 13 and Atlantica

Still have yet to play my modpack with my friends since I spent several days fixing it

[waxen panther]

Yeah being in charge of the modpack is hard sometimes

[atomic fiber]

Tell me about it 😂

[waxen panther]

I’ve spent way more time fixing it than playing it

[atomic fiber]

Like you think everything is working completely fine no issues and then you check logs and just see red errors everywhere

[tropic gorge]

Not to mention that sometimes everything works completely fine in singleplayer

So you think it’s finally good

And then when you give it to your friends to play

Everything gets fucked up

[waxen panther]

TRUE

[tropic gorge]

Then they blame you for that bc you were supposed to be testing it to make sure that doesn’t happen, even though it’s not your fault that you couldn’t test multiplayer without someone else to actually test it with

[waxen panther]

I thought everything was fine yesterday and we ended up in the backrooms every time we died for some reason

[tropic gorge]

That last part might specifically be from my friend group

[latent nexus]

yeah the coil scared the shit outta me the first time i went there expecting normal outside enemies

[atomic fiber]

LMAO yes

It’s always desync as well 😭

[waxen panther]

Yeahhh I still haven’t figured out why my weather is desynced

[atomic fiber]

I’ve heard WeatherTweaks unintentionally fixes that

[waxen panther]

Oh wow

I only have weathermultiplier, I’ll try it out!

[atomic fiber]

I had that issue before as well, but someone told me it was a glitch with Diversity but idk 🤷‍♂️

[waxen panther]

Is it multiplier?

Whatever

Diversity?? That’s weird as hell

[atomic fiber]

Yea I was confused by that as well since it doesn’t touch weather at all

[waxen panther]

Exactly

[atomic fiber]

But I removed it and don’t think I’ve had a weather desync since

So either complete coincidence and it was another mod I removed that day or maybe diversity actually did fuck it up

[waxen panther]

This sucks because I really like diversity

[atomic fiber]

Try weathertweaks

[blissful light]

✨ :3c ✨

I have enabled war crimes in Lethal Company

[latent nexus]

Yeah the coils on asteroid are definitely illegal

[forest ruin]

Still feel like itd be terrifying if the lights at Asteroid-13 shut off permanently at 6PM to simulate night time

:D

[gaunt tangle]

^ i enjoy this idea

[latent nexus]

the cosmoscos 1.0.2 update didnt update on the pack mod

[granite lily]

I've updated it now

[atomic fiber]

||what do the watchers on cosmocos do?||

[waxen panther]

||they hurt||

[atomic fiber]

||oh. i was using noclip and god mode trying to find the apparatus to test the facility meltdown music so that explains why nothing happened lmao||

[tropic gorge]

pinya

[pale karma]

anyone know the layout of cosmocos?

[latent nexus]

nope still trying to get enough to go there but lethal is hard :(((

[atomic fiber]

||main entrance is basically directly in front of the back of the ship (where you exit the ship out of), but sort of to the right I think||

[gaunt tangle]

actually

[gaunt tangle]

||pathing changes almost every time. unless you have (and know how to use) a jetpack, only either the main or emergency exits will be accessible on foot||

||never seen both accessible on foot at once||

[atomic fiber]

||i thought no moons were randomly generated||

[night meadow]

Is this Wesley mod perfected? Like are there not really much glitches?

Just thinking about getting this

[latent nexus]

all the moons are different and unforgetable it is definetely worth trying

[night meadow]

Ok

[latent nexus]

especially since now wesleys put all the moons into one mod instead of 8

[crude cairn]

and theres me jst installing one by one

[latent nexus]

good if your a asteroid hater

[waxen panther]

It pretty much is. That said, Polarus takes a whiiile to load in Multiplayer

[night meadow]

Ok

Thanks

[waxen panther]

I’ve also heard that some loot tends to disappear on Atlantica if you leave it outside

[night meadow]

wow

[waxen panther]

But I think that’s intended… you’ll understand

[night meadow]

Yea cus it freezes

Right?

[waxen panther]

||some land disappears and other appears||

It’s hard to explain

[night meadow]

Ok

[waxen panther]

But the terrain changes

[night meadow]

Wow

[waxen panther]

It’s a very impressive mod, I really recommend it

[night meadow]

Ok

Thanks

[balmy elm]

I'm quite surprised, Coils feel pretty fair to deal with outside on Asteroid-13

I was expecting some BS of the Coils getting on the ship if they get too close but no

[latent nexus]

if you pay attention on the way back youll be fine but if not your dead also coils cant jump or climb ladders to get on

[balmy elm]

Ye I was testing cause I was thinking of potentially adding Asteroid-13 to my group pack, I think it fits the bill but gonna discuss this with the rest of my group . > .

[latent nexus]

you could add the moon mod which adds all of them without all 8 being cluttered but then you wouldnt get to choose

[blissful light]

what in the SCP is this nonsense

[waxen panther]

Spoilers hahaha

I think?

[atomic fiber]

[Redacted]

[agile oak]

God these moons are so cool

I want to do the puzzle with my friends though :( is it still broken?

Also cosmocos as a moon sounds so cool from what I’ve heard (I’m trying not to go there before I complete the puzzle)

[atomic fiber]

It’s.. interesting to say the least

[agile oak]

(do u know if the puzzle is broken)

[atomic fiber]

Never did it so I have no clue

[native valve]

the puzzle isn't broken it's just absurdly hard LOL

it took me 4 and a half hours

[chilly drift]

[REDACTED]

[frank seal]

||[REDACTED]||

[granite lily]

||[REDACTED]||

[pale karma]

||[IM DOING A FUNNY]||

[blissful light]

||CONTAINMENT BREACHED||

[silent bridge]

Guys what's the difference?

[chilly drift]

first is the actual moon, second is part of the lore and not a lootable moon

[silent bridge]

Does having both provide a prfound experience overall or can I ignore it entirely

[chilly drift]

Its not needed and won't impact normal play

the last known position thing was part of the easter egg that was part of the moonpack prior to cosmocos being released on thunderstore

[silent bridge]

oh i see

[granite lily]

In other words, it was part of a puzzle which would unlock Cosmocos

[waxen panther]

Does the last known position of Cosmocos actually contain the moon?

[gaunt tangle]

nope

[wicked sand]

which is in the modpack?

[wicked sand]

also: does this puzzle exist in-game?

[green gale]

Am I the only one with a huge performance issue when going on cosmocos?

[blissful light]

Released my tutorial!
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1210653206225363018

[wicked sand]

I just looked up the where is cosmocos thing

is it possible for the moon to require unlocking to access per run

with a new puzzle or something

because I would absolutely love to be able to have a goal to work towards like thay

and knowing the context behind its release I don't want to just download and play cosmocos normally

because a puzzle to get there sounds way more fun

all that'd need to change really is that ||you enter the code into the terminal to unlock the moon rather than to download it||

[atomic fiber]

left one is in the bundle

[wicked sand]

okay

do you just get it straight away?

[atomic fiber]

yes but it's 1000 credits to travel

[wicked sand]

damn

I'd love a puzzle ingame tbh

[atomic fiber]

the one on the right is not in the bundle and was the puzzle for it

[wicked sand]

maybe something to do with ||putting an apparatus somewhere to activate things||

[atomic fiber]

i never did the puzzle so idk how it works

[forest ruin]

Wont say no to a puzzle for unlock, that sounds great!

[atomic fiber]

Does anyone know if the moons are set to override any custom dropship music?

[forest ruin]

Dont think its the moons, but rather the christmas dropship

Got the funny Sea Shanty dropship music and it seems to only be playing on dropships that aren't christmas themed

Its annoying

[atomic fiber]

Ok thought so. I use the COD zombies firesale dropship music and I bought something on one of the moons, but it played the christmas music

[forest ruin]

The only mod Masa could find that could change the christmas dropship also just, didnt work at all

Yeah no thats a Zeekers issue, and a lack of christmas dropship replacing on the modder's part. But that's most likely because the modders are waiting for LC to get rid of the Halloween & Christmas event items lol

[atomic fiber]

very sad

Oh well. It's a minor issue anyways. Doesn't bother me that much

[forest ruin]

Yeah its not game breaking thankfully. For a while it did make Masa second guess if the sound mods were working in general though, and bothered Lethal Resonance with it too ;w;

It doesnt break the game, but it definitely breaks the mind 😵‍💫

[gaunt tangle]

so... anyone else crash midway through Cosmocos on like 50% of their visits?

[silent bridge]

Infernis + FacilityMeltdown + Utsuho Model (she's a nuclear bird) = Perfection

[forest ruin]

Meltdown better be playing Solar Sect ✨

[gaunt tangle]

meltdown works so nicely on Infernis and Gratar (in the evening atm). it really says, "yea, you aint coming back here"

[forest ruin]

Very true

[round dome]

bunker spiders blend into the bushes on infernis, i stepped on one

may not have webs, but they have camoflauge

[lethal hatch]

Sad that they don't do webs tho

[round dome]

truly adaptive creatures

polarus got stuck in infinite loading

[latent nexus]

common bug that isnt moon specific wit LLL

[thorn plume]

Im new to the cosmocos update but is it required to install the cosmocos moonpack to do the puzzle and go to the new moon?

[lapis cargo]

puzzle is optional i believe, you can just download the moon now

[thorn plume]

I wanna do the puzzle tho

have been following a little bit on the lore

[agile oak]

Is it doable with friends?

[thorn plume]

but are you saying if I dont download the moon, I would be able to get there by doing the puzzle?

[lapis cargo]

i think so, there were just problems with multiplayer plus a decent amount of luck needed sometimes thats why it got released

[thorn plume]

:/ gotcha, thats quite a bummer but really hope they can fix it as it is such a cool idea

[willow plank]

if you wanna do it solo you can start by watching the YT video and then going on the "moon" last known location of cosmocos, thats kinda where you continue your journey

its in pinned messages

[silent bridge]

Yes it does (I made a mod to make that possible)

[forest ruin]

Oh you made that mod? :0 Masa uses it!

[granite lily]

There were no issues with multiplayer, there were issues with installing from the ||hidden code||
Everything should function fine

[lapis cargo]

Ahh okay

I heard someone mentioning sync problems

Also Reminder that #mod-showcase exists and that you should post in it

[marsh panther]

@granite lily ||How many tapes are there to listen to outside on the moons?||

I don't want spoilers, but I'm a tad desperate to figure out if we're just blind or unfortunate

[agile oak]

this is amazing and awesome :P so, does this mean after we finish the puzzle we should manually install cosmocos?

Oh also! If we have certain moon mods already installed, does the WesleysMoons mod create/load extra copies of the same moon?

[granite lily]

I mean.. yeah but that's kind of a Wesley classic at this point

[lapis cargo]

Lol

[granite lily]

Is it just me or does the craziest stuff always happen on Etern
Like out of all my modded lc sessions, there has never been a dull day there

[frozen sluice]

no fr it is genuinely my favorite moon bc some crazy shit always happens

[marsh panther]

[atomic fiber]

Use the bundle. Ez fix

[marsh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/well-now-im-not-doing-it-well-now-im-not-gonna-dont-want-to-dont-wanna-not-going-to-gif-1832627252901708353

[atomic fiber]

Lmfao

[marsh panther]

Lmao's brother!

[charred hornet]

So

cosmocos is just in the game now?

[atomic fiber]

If you use the bundle

[marsh panther]

Yus, but is disabled on my end. I will not use it until I fully go through the clues

wesley no respond to me I thinks tho

[charred hornet]

also wow updates are scary, if a name changes then I have to spend like 10 minutes readjusting config string

[marsh panther]

I had to look through like 5000 lines of config just today -u-

LGU's like 1,800 of it...

darn LGU length

[charred hornet]

hm, is asteroid 13 mean to have 0 enemies?

This is lowest to highest enemy power counts inside

unless LLL is just triping

[marsh panther]

oh - inside yes, power count is low I thinks

[granite lily]

Low power
All coilheads lol

[marsh panther]

but it's the enemies it chooses from that makes that lethal

[karmic gulch]

||tapes like cunningham's logs?||

[marsh panther]

||Whoever is the one speaking on logs||

||Specifically - the outside ones||

[karmic gulch]

||from my experience there are 4 in total on the outside of moons||

[marsh panther]

||SO I'M NOT GOIN' NUTS||

[karmic gulch]

[marsh panther]

Omfg... DUUUUDE.... 🙃

[charred hornet]

they have a max spawn count of 3 and only use 1 power...

[marsh panther]

honestly 2 is already enough

I don't get how it isn't a unanimous consensus how coil heads are literally the worst interior enemy in the game

No other enemy is worse.

[charred hornet]

because they aren't?

They rarely kill me even if I am barely facing them

[atomic fiber]

They leave you susceptible to brackens

[granite lily]

I love them lol
Might be my favourite enemy

[karmic gulch]

kill the bracken

[marsh panther]

They have taken down me and my team more than any groups of enemies combined. Their lethality doesn't just extend to their killing capabilities - but the way they force your perspective to get ye killed

[atomic fiber]

Bracken sneak up behind tho

[karmic gulch]

kill it anyway

[marsh panther]

Literally happened to me last session

[atomic fiber]

Yea you’re right. I should’ve used my telepathic powers :(

[karmic gulch]

litreally looking at the bracken for too long will make him aggro 🙏

[marsh panther]

Coilheads are the only enemy that can kill you within half a second, with a warning of half a second. Inside, a bracken's warning lasts seconds - a masked cannot insta-grab until they look and notice yer existence, etc etc

Jester can't even harm ye for 20 seconds even after he's trying to kill you

[karmic gulch]

slimes can kill you within half a second 🎉

[atomic fiber]

Yea

[marsh panther]

They're slow as hecc

can never catch ye by surprise

well- unless they come out of a vent you're literally running past

[karmic gulch]

wait til they camp the main and fire exit 🙏

[marsh panther]

but even then, that has happened more than once to me - and neither times they killed me because they don't instakill - they nip 3 times

[karmic gulch]

or they spawn outside cause thats a thing for aqautis

[marsh panther]

i thought that was polarus

[karmic gulch]

it was one of them

[marsh panther]

which also- weird map to choose that on... arguably the biggest map of em all lol

well.. I guess asteroid is sorta bigger

but a lot of dead space (get it?)

I think the worst part about the worst interior enemy in the game is the damn power count they have

A 3 power enemy - Bracken. Just stare for half a second, congrats - he's gone for 20+ seconds running off to the farthest corner he can find.

1 power smol boi - Coilhead. Will tear down your team faster than a jester at mach 2

[karmic gulch]

i love the bracken

[marsh panther]

who the hell- is that diversity in there? 🤣

Actually diversity wouldn't cause "neck snap" as the death message- what the hell happened here?

I actually have a gif for that

[marsh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[karmic gulch]

its just one of two death messages for bracken with coroner mod

[marsh panther]

yeh but with coroner it just states you die inexplicably or you're missing with diversity

the bracken never actually shows up as the "death"

unless ye took that part of diversity out o- o

I'd gamble at least 2 of those deaths, if that's just normal bracken - was caused by like 2-3 people looking at it for a second (*at the same time)

maybe 1 trying to smack it to death

[simple nimbus]

ok so if i have all of the moons seperatly am i still able to go through the cosmocos puzzle.

[rose bramble]

we casnt load into gratar

says this

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LethalLevelLoader.LevelManager.LogDayHistory () (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_007C)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.DungeonGeneratorGenerate_Prefix (DunGen.DungeonGenerator __instance) (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_0016)
(wrapper dynamic-method) DunGen.DungeonGenerator.DMDDunGen.DungeonGenerator::Generate(DunGen.DungeonGenerator)
DunGen.RuntimeDungeon.Generate () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_002C)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.InjectHostDungeonSizeSelection (RoundManager roundManager) (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_001D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::GenerateNewFloor(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineRoundManager::GenerateNewFloor?-1626330256(RoundManager)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.Dungeon_GenerateNewFloor_Prefix (On.RoundManager+orig_GenerateNewFloor orig, RoundManager self) (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_000C)
(wrapper dynamic-method) LethalLib.Modules.Dungeon.DMDLethalLib.Modules.Dungeon::RoundManager_GenerateNewFloor(On.RoundManager/orig_GenerateNewFloor,RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookRoundManager::GenerateNewFloor?-2121082268(RoundManager)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.InjectHostDungeonFlowSelection () (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_0039)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc(RoundManager,int,int)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115.MoveNext () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0076)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

stuck on loading seed

poolrooms btw

[lapis cargo]

add ``` before and after the error

[latent nexus]

its not really because of pool rooms or gratar its just another LLL bug

[atomic fiber]

I’ll never understand how people are getting the craziest errors. I just add random mods and everything pretty much works

[surreal void]

can outside enemies cross the lake on polarus?

[silent bridge]

Glad to know someone in this server uses it!

[strange tapir]

agreed, its my fav moon to go to xD

[round dome]

are any moons other than infernis planned to get any custom music? love infernis' custom music, so i'd love to see other tracks like it on other places

also this is absolutely horrible why would you ever fix the spiders on infernis

[blissful light]

Oh nooooo, the spiders have been fixed 🤭✨

[round dome]

this wasn't worth it for the fix of the radar

actually nevermind, double down, put invisible walls at the ship so spiders can crawl onto it more easily

[granite lily]

Wait they can actually climb onto the ship

[round dome]

also, the earthquake particles on infernis should be moved down. they seem to often overshoot the facility's base floor but are definitely tall enough to cover multiple floors if they were just moved down

this applies to other things done using the same method ||specifically, something on cosmocos. they don't overshoot the facility, but they don't appear on any floors other than the one you enter on||

@granite lily

[granite lily]

They should cover the entire facility

[round dome]

well they don't, so that's why i recommended moving it

[willow plank]

they only climb kinda below and get stuck, and do nothing

[blissful light]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-dicaprio-leonardo-django-right-gif-18131224

I actually love that idea

[silent bridge]

Anyone got tips for Cosmocos navigation and ||Bracken avoidance||?

I know it's a true endgame moon and it's amazing how it actually fits

[balmy elm]

Bracken outside? Sounds like my pew pew's getting some use

[round dome]

do you mean the surface?

@granite lily bug report for cosmocos. ||the watchers have their hitbox shown.||

[fast moon]

Do the glowing shrooms not show up for you? It seems to lead us over

[round dome]

those seem to be scattered everywhere

[fast moon]

Ah sorry then. Always lead me to either a fire exit or main entrance

But we also had multiplayer desync previously so it could have been coincidence it always led me

To be quite honest I originally thought it was intentional for the map to be different between people. Awesome concept.

[silent bridge]

yeah the outside of the moon

it took us like 6 minutes to find the main entrance and another 6 minutes to find the ship (2 out of 4 of us died in the process because ||lmao brackens outside and then the other guy fell off||)

i do admit it's fun exploring it tho

[round dome]

nevermind im stupid

[round dome]

||follow the little groups of blue mushroom things. best i can recommend for bracken is to look behind you every now and then.||

[granite lily]

I'll roll out a patch for the ||watchers|| hitbox later today

[modest willow]

Mass lag on Cosmocos

Also what are the watchers?

[gaunt tangle]

just a personal take... but Etern Giant spawns are too frequent for me. i love killin Nutcrackers, but if there's always 2 Giants on average, it's hell to even leave the ship. i do know it's for challenge, however.

[marsh panther]

2? Lucky. Last darn session I had literally 4 roaming the darn map

I had a pile of shotguns from killed nutcrackers in the little oasis/pond between the ship and main entrance

could not loot it cause they had a damn picnic

Which, to be fair - fine. Let the tree bois have their picnic... but they didn't need to sit around for so long.

[lethal hatch]

Wesley just noticed that earth leviathan don't work on your moons (tried Etern and Atlantica) is this normal ?

[lone oxide]

We currently are having issues with the latest Infernis version, we are stuck on "Waiting for crew" we tried rolling back LLL but it's still happening

Anyone else?

[granite lily]

They only work on some of my moons

[lethal hatch]

It works for me just tried

[lethal hatch]

Oh how come ?

[lone oxide]

Well I guess it's a mod combinaison problem then

I'll try different mod combinaisons later and report here if i found it

[lethal hatch]

Yes, probably

[agile oak]

Is Infernis supposed to be more difficult than gratar or less?

Not that it really matters much, just wondering because of the strange readme on gratar and Infernis (gratar says the difficulty is supposed to be between march and rend, while Infernis says it’s between offense and rend)

[granite lily]

The higher the price, the more difficult it is I suppose
Though difficulty in lc is (sometimes) very much subjective

[agile oak]

Ok awesome

Anyone think this seems cool?

[void basin]

I think triskelion is too cheap for how difficult / valuable it is

[blissful light]

Yeah and if anything Auralis should be 1k+
If you're able to run it well, you can get mad profit on Auralis

but also it's your setup, so do what'chu want

[hasty kite]

is there a config to change price for auralis or just through third party mods

[blissful light]

Should be able to do it directly through LLL

Unless I'm mistaken and haven't updated it since that functionality dropped

[pale karma]

@granite lily what's the pixel size you use for your moon icons? i want to try to make custom one for fun

[blissful light]

pixel moon icon tutorial when

[granite lily]

It's a 25x25 image scaled up to 256x256

[pale karma]

k, thx

[pale karma]

do you just have like a template you used? i can't seem to get the shape right

[granite lily]

I just kinda eyeballed it
I'd say keep trying until you're happy with it

[latent nexus]

get 25 bit sphere color it then upscale it

[pale karma]

would you say this looks right?

i couldn't get it scaled up to 256 but i got it to 250

[lethal hatch]

close enough

[pale karma]

so I finished and i'd say it looks passable

[lethal hatch]

Damn you are making a lava one ? i'm hyped

[pale karma]

ok now that i look at it, it's just a dollar store infernis

[lethal hatch]

You can try different values of red on each lava thing

[naive plume]

You should probably make it so you can kill those eye things

[pale karma]

how is this?

[balmy elm]

More volcanic maps would be coolio, iirc there's only 2 to my knowledge

Infernis and I believe Vulcan, or whatever its name is

[void basin]

Vulcan is right

[balmy elm]

How is that one? I never bothered to try it out

[latent nexus]

Its pretty good its more late game since it cost 650 but a lot more fun than infernis than my opinion not that infernis is objectively bad

[lethal hatch]

Vulcan works for you ? it wasn't working when i tried it 😮

( tried it witout LLL)

[lapis cargo]

Try a 3d to 2d sprite, make a 3d object for the moon and take a side profile of it

Could look better

Could also just not

[pale karma]

im not actually making a moon, i just did that for fun

: P

for some reason doing this : P (without the space) make this emoji 😛

also here's the final ver

[balmy elm]

Radioactive moon with huge green hazardous sludge waste would be coolios too . > .

[pale karma]

if i were to give it a name i would call if Harloth because it kinda sounds cool

93-Harloth

there's no moons with the number 93, right?

[balmy elm]

Not to my knowledge

[granite lily]

I always worry about this exact thing when I slap a number on a moon lol

[pale karma]

Orbiting: 93 Harloth

Population: Dissolved

Conditions: Leftover industrial smog compounding with high energy radiation heat.

Fauna: All cancer-prone biology are found on disclosed extinction list.

did this cuz why not

[granite lily]

You've got a concept, now you just need to make it real

[pale karma]

if only i could, i have no idea how to make a good looking moon, the most i think i can do is a platform with all of the esentials

[steep helm]

this was prob 3 mins inside

[blissful light]

shrimply resharkable

[gaunt tangle]

apologies if this has been answered before, but lookin at included files in the moon pack... what's Porcerin?

[lethal hatch]

Wasn't it Acidir ?

[gaunt tangle]

ah, appears to be

[balmy elm]

Porcelain is Acidir iirc yes

[gaunt tangle]

i thought it was always just called "Acidir" since release, unless a rename happened mid development and changing the file name would be too much work for what was already done

[balmy elm]

I think its internal name was different for as long as I can remember

[granite lily]

Acidir turned out way different from what I initially imagined so there were a few name changes during development

[naive plume]

Acidir kinda sticks out from the rest of the maps

Idk what specifically but just the other ones are a lot more cool to me at least

[void basin]

thats funny

cause Acidir sticks out in the other way to me as being one of the very best maps

[gaunt tangle]

hm... anyone else havin trouble goin into main on Acidir? like the hitbox is very hard to grab?

[tropic gorge]

yeah

[naive plume]

idk Im personally not a fan of it

same with etern

idk it just feels like they are both missing something

but idk what it is

[agile oak]

have you seen its fire exits?

[naive plume]

ik but its just meh for me

[agile oak]

there are like 6 fire exits

[naive plume]

I don't like when the gimmick is kinda just big map

[agile oak]

idk i thought it was a meh map for a while too but then I exited through a fire exit and found myself in literally idkwhere

[naive plume]

idk but etern feels like its missing smtn

[agile oak]

i guess thats true, yeah. Do you have any favorite maps rn?

I'm looking for cool new ones!

[naive plume]

not really into other modded moons

[agile oak]

oh wait so you dont use modded moons?

[naive plume]

I do only just the wesley ones

the rest just dont work for playing the game unless ur trying to mess around with friends for like an hour

Polarus is probably the best map ive played

the main problem I have with the moons is that they are very laggy sometimes

[agile oak]

yeah i love polarus a LOT, im gonna add it in once its load time issues are fixed :P

[naive plume]

Idk if optimization is possible

yea loading that map literally took like 2 minutes

[abstract heron]

its very possible

most moons shouldn't be taking any time to load

in the longterm anyway

[agile oak]

if you have all the moons up to date, the only moons with really big issues should be polarus and cosmocos (ik the two are struggling right now)

Also atlantica has a gameplay issue but thats different

[naive plume]

Cosmocos is also laggy

Atlantica pissed me off so bad earlier

The whole map fell apart LOL

[void basin]

Try Vulcan, Spring Factory, and Bozoros, they're all ones you probably haven't heard of

[naive plume]

i didnt know it did that

[agile oak]

yeah and your scrap stays up in the air :P

[naive plume]

Polarus is the closest map ive played to something that could be in the game

[void basin]

Have you tried Generic Moons?

[naive plume]

Whats that

[void basin]

Or Expert Moons?

[void basin]

Fantastic mod with 4 moons that feel right out of the original game

[naive plume]

Interesting

[void basin]

There's definitely cooler moons, but none that replicate the style as closely as GenericMoons does

[agile oak]

but actually though, if youre experiencing any lag outside of cosmocos and polarus, check your mod list because the rest should be absolutely fine

[naive plume]

Ye i dont think my crew was

Besides those 2

I also think the inside of cosmocos needs a revamp

[agile oak]

oioi spoilers for me

[naive plume]

what

[agile oak]

im waiting to complete the puzzle before heading to coscmocos

[void basin]

Cosmicos is a fancy new moon with an optional puzzle

So try to avoid saying anything about it

Without spoiler tags

[naive plume]

I know nothing about a puzzle mb

I didnt know ill just spoiler next time

[atomic fiber]

Did you know that Cosmocos makes your voice higher pitched and has rainbow and lollipops instead of trees and bushes?

[agile oak]

bill cypher not knowing about a puzzle 😔

[naive plume]

Crap

[agile oak]

whimsical cosmocos!? no wayy

[atomic fiber]

It’s true!!

Man I’m still sad that whimsical weather doesn’t work in my modpack

Would’ve been so funny

[agile oak]

whats it not work with?

[atomic fiber]

Idk. I just know that something in my modpack is causing it to glitch out

Whenever I tried to land on a moon that had the weather effect, once it loaded the seed my entire screen would just turn purple and I couldn’t see anything

[agile oak]

oh thats a different weather

purplevision

[atomic fiber]

No like

I couldn’t see anything

[agile oak]

sounds like foggypurple

the hit new weather type

[atomic fiber]

I was able to walk around and interact with stuff, but my screen was just stuck on a singular shade of purple

[agile oak]

i dont think i have yeah, are those ones you prefer using?

[agile oak]

AIAIAI (Vulcan :( )

[void basin]

I'm guessing this is a Lethal Expansion issue, not LECore

so in theory itll work

[void basin]

I haven't tried them but I've heard good things

I'm assuming you're familiar with EQM, and you're probably familiar with EEM given how often you look around

but if not you could check through those

There's also ECM with every moon I know of if you really want to find everything that's out there

[agile oak]

What moons do you have in your main pack?

[void basin]

EQM: Icebound, Hydro, Aquatis, Asteroid 13, Egypt, Atlantica, Vertigo, Infernis, Atlas Abyss, Celest, Triskelion, Gratar, Acidir, Polarus, Secret Labs, Auralis, Orion, Etern, Devastation, Kast, Ganimedes

EEM: Conviction, Castle Grounds, Nostromo, USC Vortex, Wateridge, Kamino, Callisto, Ducky, Ether, Outpost 31, Assal, Wasteland, Celestria, Maritopia, EchoReach

[atomic fiber]

Jesus Christ

How many mods besides moons do you have?

[void basin]

None, those are my two modpacks

I personally use TMLC

[atomic fiber]

Oh right I’ve seen you in that server several times

[void basin]

gotcha lol

The first, EQM, is designed to have high quality moons that fit into the base game really well and can be inserted into any modpack without issues

[naive plume]

Thats so many maps wth

[void basin]

This second one has several moons that are good but were cut from the main pack for whatever reason

[atomic fiber]

I’m avoiding adding any more moons to my pack since I already boosted load times by an extra minute by adding Wesley’s 💀

[void basin]

yeah lol, there's a reason its split into two parts

[naive plume]

I dont think u should have over 8 moons

[void basin]

That's fair. My game takes like 10 minutes to open with the big modpack I use + these moons

[atomic fiber]

I have like 15 I think 💀

[naive plume]

I like to have like double vanilla moons

[atomic fiber]

Maybe 14

[naive plume]

Bruh I remember me and my friend took like an hour to figure how to get 102 wateridge it was so funny when we got it on accident

[void basin]

It's real hard to do that for me lol. In the early days of moon modding that was about how many good ones there were, but I'd confidently play a vanilla-like game with all of the EQM ones and the majority of the EEM ones now

[atomic fiber]

Wateridge is the castle right

[void basin]

Wesley's Moons alone is already 8 more moons than normal

Yeah

[atomic fiber]

I’m not a huge fan of that one

[naive plume]

Yea its the one in the ocean

Looking back it was so bad

[void basin]

It's popular because it was the first, but in terms of an actual map its pretty bad

[naive plume]

Like really bad and really laggy

[void basin]

no door texture, no thought for map design at all, random fire that kills you, textures not aligning to terrain at all

[atomic fiber]

I’ve never had lag with it. It just bothers me that it’s a thin floating platform with a castle on it in the middle of the ocean

[naive plume]

Spiders spawning outside for no reason

[void basin]

spiders outside can work well in the right environment

(Infernis)

[naive plume]

Infernis spiders are wack

[void basin]

but on a castle it doesn't make much sense

[naive plume]

I dont trust them

[atomic fiber]

Yea I died to that fire cuz I was curious what it did 💀

[naive plume]

Loot bugs on atlantica is peak

[void basin]

like as a concept or in terms of AI? cause there was a pretty recent fix to indoor enemy AI when outdoors

[naive plume]

Really?

Thank the lords

[void basin]

Yeah

[naive plume]

Yea thats what that is

[void basin]

it also makes coilheads work outside :)

[naive plume]

Asteroid 13

Classic

[void basin]

and jesters

which I haven't seen utilized yet but really want to

[naive plume]

Jester outside for next wesley map

Its time.

[void basin]

rare Cosmocos spawn or something

[naive plume]

Perhaps

[void basin]

I haven't been there

[naive plume]

I wont leak

[void basin]

But yeah if I were you I would play with a bunch of moons a couple times, then remove the ones you dont like after

[naive plume]

Cause I accidentally did earlier 💀

[void basin]

You can make it less overwhelming by sorting / filtering by price

[naive plume]

I used advanced company

And change the prices to my liking

And change the loot spawns and stuff

[void basin]

interesting

[naive plume]

So it just plays better with the rest of the game

[void basin]

USC Vortex, despite being otherwise really cool and well-made, has absolutely broken interior sizes and scrap values

[naive plume]

Cause the moons all together dont really work

[void basin]

how so?

[naive plume]

Idk just all the wesley moons together just dont work for me

With default settings

[void basin]

fair enough

[naive plume]

Cause all the maps arent even really tweaked the best when it comes to loot

(etern)

Get way too much loot on etern for basically nothing

[void basin]

I've heard etern is pretty hard so there's a chance you got lucky

but I'll keep that in mind

[naive plume]

Unless the cartel of masks want to worsen ur day

[void basin]

Have you tried many custom interiors?

[naive plume]

I dont like the custom interiors

I think they all suck tbh

[void basin]

thats an interesting take

I'm not the biggest fan of the dungeon / sewer

but I really love the rest

[naive plume]

They should expand off the interiors they already have

Add more rooms and stuff

Thats what I think

[void basin]

that actually is a good idea for a mod

[agile oak]

Which ones?

[naive plume]

Fear is though if someone did it might come off weird

Cause I feel like only zeekers could pull it off

[atomic fiber]

All of Wesley’s, Outpost 31, Bozoros, Egypt, Atlas Abyss, Ganimedes, and Secret Labs

[naive plume]

Egypt is lowkey kinda an overrated map

[oak tree]

overrated?

I barely see anyone talk about it

[naive plume]

Yea its just meh

[atomic fiber]

Yea

[naive plume]

Idk I don’t like egypt, feels just uninteresting to play

[oak tree]

thats fine

[atomic fiber]

I really just have it because it uses LLL

[oak tree]

doesnt mean its overrated

[naive plume]

Well its my opinion

I just think its overrated

[agile oak]

you think you’re gonna cut down that list anymore? Or you like it as is?

[oak tree]

How??

the map being bad and being overrated are totally different things

[naive plume]

Just playing egypt doesn’t feel satisfying really

[atomic fiber]

I don’t plan on removing any no

[agile oak]

Oh i see u don’t like Egypt :D

[naive plume]

Its not bad

But just like its kinda dull almost from when I played

[void basin]

Good list, I'd be interested in seeing your configs for any interiors you have

[oak tree]

Ok but how is it overrated

I dont see people constantly praising it

[agile oak]

Another maps you like besides polarus?

Not complaining, gathering intel rather

[atomic fiber]

All of my interiors are set to 60 weight and default generation for all moons 😅

[naive plume]

Infernis

[agile oak]

Actually though polarus is incredible

[naive plume]

Its not necessarily unique but I like the scrap items a lot and the fire exits balanced out

Its makes for a good gameplay loop on infernis

[agile oak]

Infernis and Polarus then

[atomic fiber]

At one point I did want to try to make certain interiors specific to certain moons, but it was just too much effort especially considering most interiors wouldn’t really fit anywhere specifically

[agile oak]

Opposite ends of a spectrum

[void basin]

Here's some configs if you need them, it's almost exactly lined up with your mod list. Only missing outpost 31 which is on the 2nd sheet and Bozoros which I haven't set up

[naive plume]

Infernis and polarus are basically opposites

[agile oak]

What interiors do you use/are your favorites/fit in certain maps really well :P

[naive plume]

Polarus is really gimmicky

Infernis is just kinda core gp only

[agile oak]

I love gimmicks

[void basin]

I love both btw

[agile oak]

And flavor

[void basin]

core gameplay is really good when it's good

and gimmicks are always cool to see

[naive plume]

Atlantica is also good

Mostly because its fun to kill bugs

[atomic fiber]

I use MoreInteriors, LC_Office, MentalHospital, Poolrooms, Scoopy’s Variety (both dungeon and sewer), and SCP Facility

[void basin]

no Scarlet Devil Mansion?

[atomic fiber]

Oohh I’ll have to check that out tomorrow

[agile oak]

Do any of these fit well into certain maps?

[void basin]

I set mine up like this

[atomic fiber]

I’m not a huge fan of the design. It feels kinda empty to me

[void basin]

That's fair

[oak tree]

I think I like secret labs than most people

[naive plume]

Main problem with moons and interiors

[oak tree]

and I dont know anything about scp

[naive plume]

If they either feel to much or too little

Its hard to like be inbetween

[void basin]

have you tried Office?

does a great job of that IMO

and it's based on Upturned, a game by zeekerss

[naive plume]

Its kinda chill

Shrimp is a goat so

[void basin]

I like Office a lot, maybe the most of any interior mod

[atomic fiber]

Imo, more interiors fits with Offense or March. LC_Office I could see fitting with any of the 3 late game vanilla moons. MentalHospital.. I’d say Vow. Scoopy’s I feel like the sewer one could fit with experimentation. That’s all I can really think of

[void basin]

its only problem is i feel like they're constantly playing bug fix whack-a-mole

[oak tree]

Yeah I like office alot more after the recent update

[naive plume]

From what ive seen its prob the best

[atomic fiber]

This is excluding modded moons

[oak tree]

I have sewers with vow, hospital on march

since vow has a dam

[void basin]

I like Office for Vow because coming out of a lower fire exit makes a ton of sense with you always going down

[atomic fiber]

Oh that’s true

Idk to me Vow seems like the location for a mental hospital

A giant building out in the middle of nowhere

March has more of a bunker exterior look to it

[naive plume]

Offense is that one military base one

[void basin]

March has a good exterior that fits bunker, and Offense has the red rock that bunker implies with its interior

[void basin]

thats a great point

[naive plume]

Dine should just be removed from the game

Period

Worst map

[void basin]

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/guide-for-reading
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/user-curated-lists

SCP is the greatest text-based horror fiction I've probably ever read

[naive plume]

True dat

[lone oxide]

I've set Experimental to be only facility because the complex is in a big metal warehouse, Assurance as Castle & SCP since the entry of Assurance and building is made of stone, Vow is castle, facility & SCP because the entry building is concrete & metal-ish, Offense is Facility & Castle because the stone and desert fits well the castle, March is Castle & SCP because the entry kinda looks like a bunker, Dine is Mansion & SCP cause the building is concrete-ish, Rend is Mansion
And modded moons Aquatis as Facility & Castle, Infernis as Castle & SCP, Orion is Mansion & Castle, Celeste is Facility & SCP

Since you guys talked about this haha, I actually tried to set interiors fitting to the outside the more i could

I also made it for Sewers but we ended up being fed up by the way it was designed and removed it, but Sewers were supposed to be in Vow, March, Aquatis & Celeste

[void basin]

wait

not Bunker for Celest?

the entrances are literally bunker entrances

[lone oxide]

We didn't have bunker yet, but we will soontm

[void basin]

ah gotcha

cause i mean

[lone oxide]

But i try to keep it lightweight in terms of mods and complexity cause one of us is playing on potato computer 💀

[void basin]

ah gotcha

Add CullFactory and HDLethalCompany if you haven't

[lone oxide]

Already got that yeah

Also this is what I made to see the interior exteriors and all

It can be of use maybe

Ah this is the one with pins

[atomic fiber]

Dude when I was like 10 I was convinced SCP was real because of how descriptive and extensive the lore is

[lone oxide]

Same but more into my 15's lmao

SCP lore and all is incredible

[atomic fiber]

I will love SCP til the day I die

[lone oxide]

To the point that IT IS credible lmao

[atomic fiber]

Man I haven’t played SCP SL in a while. I should get into that

[agile oak]

What about including?

[atomic fiber]

(I’m only gonna do the LLL moons for my sanity) Outpost by default is set to only MoreInteriors if you have it installed. Bozoros… I have no clue. It really should just have its own custom interior. Secret Labs obviously the scp facility. Egypt would probably be the dungeon from scoopy’s. Atlas Abyss could work well with MoreInteriors since it’s like underground or smth. Ganimedes I’d say the vanilla facility

Oh wait I forgot 2 moons

Um

[oak tree]

atlas would also work with the castle dungeon

from scoopy’s

[atomic fiber]

THATS WHAT IT WAS. That was my original idea a while back and I couldn’t think of it this time for some reason

Triskelion Id say the vanilla interior makes most sense. Auralis I think LC_Office or MentalHospital

[lone oxide]

Yeah for me Atlas is 100% Castle that's the best interior for this moon

That's the most logical I mean

[agile oak]

Atlas is pretty but I’ve always felt it’s a little boring

Although it looks incredible, definitely the best looking moon I’ve seen

[high stone]

The square, very unnatural shapes of the sludge makes me think humans moved it around in aqueducts and canals, pooling it through damns, to keep it from flooding areas and harming whomever decided to live there

Speaking of it, SCP be like "this thing is unkillable and has existed before time itself and its only weakess is ||redacted because fuck you and forget good story writing|| and this thing hates humanity and will kill everything in sight but also civilization was able to exist with multiple of these fuckwads in the world." And then there's like 17 of these with slight differences

[pale karma]

we be gaming with this theory

[agile oak]

Dissolved * :)

Sounds like a super cool concept

[high stone]

Yeah, then you could do an industrial area that has heavy, wide bridges big enough to support trucks as the way to move over a massive flow of chunky radioactive liquid (which may chemistry speaking not exist, so maybe it's instead the highest level of acidity or base on the pH scale up to u). The reason the factory is so close to the sludge is the flow is used to generate power. Maybe this is the one map where pulling the apparatus doesn't kill the lights for lore. Light levels would be low from constant cloudy weather, but the sludge would cause a glow that's bright enough to illuminate the nearby streets

I would recommend rewording Conditions to "Leftover industrial smog compounding with high energy radiation heat."
And fauna to "All cancer-prone biology are found on disclosed extinction list."

[pale karma]

k

[high stone]

Up tp u

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bleak pawn]

does anyone know for Cosmocos if ||the exterior layout is supposed to be different for everyone in the crew? like some paths were blocked for 2 members of my group but open for others? some of my friends were walking through a wall that wasn't existing on their end||

[crude cairn]

#1204432295025578014 message

[granite lily]

It's.. "intended"

[bleak pawn]

o ok thats cool i just wasnt sure if it was a bug or not

[crude cairn]

a feature i would say

😂

[vernal ingot]

oh that's cool then

[naive plume]

|| test ||

Cosmocos spoilers: || you should make it so you can kill the eye balls in the facility, sometimes they get completely in the way and you can’t really do anything about it ||

[vernal ingot]

Cosmocos spoiler: ||my doorway on SCP interior got blocked by a huge purple tentacle, sorry if it's already a known thing. it was quite frustrating to not be able to enter a part of the dungeon||

[lapis cargo]

Cosmocos spoiler: ||is it true they're made out of pure love, kindness and a lot of dead bodies?||

[atomic fiber]

Cosmocos spoiler: ||I ate dino nuggets last night for my midnight snack||

[granite lily]

Cosmocos spoiler: ||Cosmocos spoiler||

[native valve]

Cosmocos spoiler: ||it takes place in a big pit||

[plush verge]

Cosmocos spoiler: ||Cosmocos is missing ||
i didnt forgor the format like 3 times to spoiler

[acoustic plank]

@granite lily
Acidir

• Nobody told me that the main entrance was completely inaccessable

hahahahahahaha

🤣

So how did you find out?

Also can I actualy navigate to "Last Known Position of Cosmocos" I keep getting terminal errors.
Is this intended?

[crude cairn]

everyone already went to cosmocos and forgot to do door maintenance 😂

[gaunt tangle]

it wasnt COMPLETELY inaccessible... but when you're on an Eclipsed variant and a Giant wants your nuggets, finding the tiny sweet spot do be nerve wracking

[granite lily]

I took a break from moon making and decided to actually play the game lmao

[crude cairn]

actually a good time

[gaunt tangle]

unheard of

[crude cairn]

i just hopes its not becoming u finding all the bugs that is hidden 😂 even tho thats a good thing too

[gaunt tangle]

wait... when you say "moon making"... does that actually mean making, or just fixes?
overanalyzing

[crude cairn]

||cosmocos2||

[naive plume]

Im gonna try to give acidir another try today

ill see if I like it more cause I haven't played it in like a month lmao

[gaunt tangle]

Acidir is a good time, and Eclipsed and Rainy aint too bad on it.

[naive plume]

how many fire exits are on acidir?

[gaunt tangle]

like 6 or something

[naive plume]

noted

[void basin]

make sure you update Wesley's Moons / Acidir to latest when you do, there was a bug in the last version making the entrance inaccessible

[gaunt tangle]

it's big, but i LOVE the scrap you can find there

ALMOST inaccessible

[naive plume]

yea I always update my mods

[gaunt tangle]

there was a sweet spot

[naive plume]

ive spent like the past 3 days messing around with a modpack for me and my friends

oh acidir price of the moon was nerfed since last I played

it used to be like 1000 I think right?

[granite lily]

It used to be 650 a while back

[naive plume]

I swear it was like 1k at one point but I could be tripping

map seems a lot better than the last time I played it though

[granite lily]

I plead the fifth

[waxen lion]

I don't know if it is an issue on my end but for some reason Cosmocos always crashes when everybody dies or when the ship leaves.

[cinder flame]

you're gonna move your moons to LLL?

[granite lily]

Eventually

[gaunt tangle]

... now you got my head stormin with ideas.

[granite lily]

I completely forgot to add the Cosmocos icon to the modpack icon

[lapis cargo]

Eventually it's just gonna be a mess lmao

[blissful light]

The modpack icon as it keeps growing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUjrySBwi5Q

[granite lily]

Lmao

I've fixed the icon

[naive plume]

just played etern and realized its peak

[strange tapir]

definitelly

[naive plume]

I didnt see the vision but now I do

[waxen lion]

Very nice sheet, I'll be using it for my modpack ! Are you also using some kind of spreadsheet for monster weight on each planet or using default?

[void basin]

I haven't changed the monster weights at all, they're all default. I've found most moon authors are pretty good at configuring them.
If you're publishing a modpack, feel free to copy and use the spreadsheet however you want! If you're just making it for personal use it might be more convenient to just use the modpack they were made for