Wesley's Moons/Interiors/Weathers/Variants/General/Mrov

[agile oak]

Atlas Abyss in my opinion feels very one-path oriented

uhm if that makes sense

[gloomy grove]

It definitely is

But I don't think that's a bad thing specifically because the one path and scenery is so good looking

[agile oak]

My first time loading into the moon though I LOVED the white mask pictures/decors

[gloomy grove]

and because the enemies are confined there's always interesting gameplay, like "Okay there's a dog, how do I get around it, FUCK, there's a Masked coming down the bridge, gotta hurry or I'm screwed"

I also loved landing on the planet when Eclipsed and buying items

Lemme tell ya

Getting those items is like pulling an eyeless dog's tooth

[native valve]

the masked don't even become the problem anymore the dogs just wipe em out for ya

[runic root]

i shouldnt enjoy filling these out as much as i do but Zamn its fun

[gloomy grove]

Mostly! I also like Orion having a good balanced feel for a 750 map, feeling slightly harder than Titan but without the landmine/turret spam, and the fact that every enemy outside can coincide at once while the map gives you plenty of cover/terrain obstacles to avoid said enemies

[agile oak]

Yay :DDD

[gloomy grove]

It's also one of the only moons that actually uses sandworms, since most people hate them, and I actually kinda like sandworms, except when they trigger at 0.33 seconds, but otherwise they're honestly a relatively fair enemy (fun fact: at 0 weight, you walk slightly faster than them)

[agile oak]

interesting

man i guess i gotta try them again then

i should be using cool interiors too

[gloomy grove]

That said, sandworms can be frustrating when you're trying to get scrap back late at night, but that feels fair on a 750 cost map, there needs to be difficulty to it

[agile oak]

youve played it solo and with others?

[gloomy grove]

Yeee

As far as post-Titan moons goes:
Orion has basically every threat, making it different how you get back every time
Auralis has so many giants that bobbing and weaving through the forest is a MUST if you want to make it back
Devastation I haven't played too much so I honestly can't give feedback on it too thoroughly, it feels like an easier Kast
and Kast feels like the type of moon where you go in and everything is fine, and then suddenly everything hits 100 at the same time and you need to leave

[agile oak]

and what interior do you use for it?

[gloomy grove]

I use several, one sec, lemme check

See Orion

Mainly default Mansion, with equal odds of Bunker or Scarlet Mansion occasionally

[agile oak]

I would use scarlet mansion, but im always afraid of the longer loading times it has

[gloomy grove]

Admittedly I'm a sucker for default mansion so that helps

Not enough moons use mansion

I'm planning on changing Pizzeria to a Mansion-default moon once LLL configs are working for me

[native valve]

i can't wait for when the interior tutorials kick into full gear and this chart looks like someones heart rate after taking adderall

[gloomy grove]

lmaooo

[native valve]

the game, played as intended

i personally look forward to it since the dungeon is where you spend the most time anyways

[gloomy grove]

I agree, but that's also a big factor for good moons for me

Is whether or not they still affect gameplay

Any moon that feels too easy to get loot back is an automatic Meh for me

I like playing on and seeing the cool moons

[native valve]

pretty sure they fixed this recently (if not fixed then improved)

[gloomy grove]

It's definitely not entirely fixed

But was improved, can attest

[vague hawk]

I don't see starlancer moons there :<

[native valve]

i like how they did the one themed scrap

[gloomy grove]

They're on there, near the bottom

[native valve]

those who have played will know

[native valve]

it is scary asf people need to see it for themselves

[vague hawk]

I am so blind xD

[gloomy grove]

Also, ignore any chances for Office atm on this

Office is disabled as an interior until the size/loot problems are solved

Just have it installed for Shrimp atm

[native valve]

yeahhhhhh shrimp

trust me i will make pizzeria interior (eventually)

[gloomy grove]

har har harhar haaar

[native valve]

pizzeria interior definitely makes more sense than a moon tho

ever since i made that moon all my friends keep begging me to make it

how about i actually start talking about the thread post in question.
another thing that could be cool is if someone went through and made dungeons for some of the wesley moons

what would they be?

some like volcanic mines for infernis could be cool

some ice caves for polarus maybe

[gloomy grove]

I'm hesitant on cave/mine/etc interiors because they just feel... odd? LIke they don't feel like a place you're gonna find manmade scrap, unless they make it very clear in the design that they're company-made mines or something

Bunker is a good example of how caves can be done right, as it has chunks of cave on the inside but it still mostly feels like an occupied bunker

[native valve]

that kinda what i was meaning

by mines i mean like having plenty of man made stuff around that gives an obvious impression that people used to work here

[gloomy grove]

Yeah, it could work

I like the Bunker interior for Infernis personally

[native valve]

the mines themselves being like the equivalent of the hallways rooms in facility

[gloomy grove]

Infernis is nice in that it works with quite a few interiors though

[native valve]

imagine like a factory for gratar

different from facility

it's like a mixture between facility, soulless office workspaces, and big ass machinery

[gloomy grove]

Honestly I'd like to see some interior reskins for moons, where textures and whatnot look different but the core gameplay is the same

[native valve]

that would be interesting

[vague hawk]

Honestly surprised yet there's no texture replacement pack done 😛 missed opportunity if someone knows how to patch it in.

[native valve]

problem is it would probably change it for every facility

could use some scripts to change it randomly but i have a feeling it might break some stuff

[vague hawk]

ow 100% would break stuff, especially mod wise 😛

[native valve]

you could just make a different version of the facility as a custom interior but at that point might as well just make a custom interior lol

[rose bramble]

Atlantica is really cool, but honestly i want it to be darker

im more amazed how cool it looks lot

and just doesent feel horror like

[vague hawk]

I mean a more run down facility might be cool, like cracks and holes - foliage growing along everything ^^ more variation etc in tilesets

[native valve]

yuh

[void basin]

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

CullFactory

[gloomy grove]

As useful as CullFactory is, not what they were referring to ^^;

[void basin]

A proper "Factory" interior with assembly lines and stuff would be awesome

ah

[gloomy grove]

They were referring to the time it takes to land the ship, aka "load" the interior

[void basin]

[gloomy grove]

😛

[void basin]

Yeah that makes sense

[rose bramble]

what are the interiors weights for asteriod 13?

[rose bramble]

for some reason mansion keeps spawning

I just want bunker and mental hospital to have a 50/50 chance to spawn

[native valve]

mental hospital?

[gaunt tangle]

mental hospital is a dungeon mod that needs some serious optimization

last i checked, at least

[gaunt tangle]

i think your best bet would be to set the bunker and hospital both to 9999. they'll be equal to each other and pretty much negate the other natural spawns

[rose bramble]

I did that, and mansion kept spawning

[rose bramble]

remove the LC office mod

[rose bramble]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1205741904881516595

[gaunt tangle]

🤷‍♂️

[native valve]

Oh wow this some phasmophobia type shit

Looks cool

[thorny narwhal]

damn ive just now noticed i havn't tried half of them lol

[void basin]

You gotta try GenericMoons

They're really good

also Acidir

my personal favorite of Wesley's moons

[thorny narwhal]

i like asteroid the most

just gotta tweak it a lil with the spawns

[void basin]

an asteroid spawns update is coming at some point that will have some very good tweaks :)

[thorny narwhal]

im gonna make coilheads spawn outside

[void basin]

||wesley's gonna do that too||

[void basin]

make sure to add StarlancerAIFix if you're not already

otherwise they'll be broken

[thorny narwhal]

||yo??? thats fire||

[thorny narwhal]

i did

[void basin]

nice

[blissful light]

Yesss good, spread the holy word ✨

[thorny narwhal]

the reason i dont play alot prob because im really selective and i try to stick with the lore and give each moon a theme and interior

[void basin]

Fair enough

GenericMoons are very close to vanilla style

[void basin]

you could always just

[thorny narwhal]

ill check em out

[thorny narwhal]

so many colors

[waxen panther]

I honestly forced it upon them and god they’re loving it (THANKFULLY)

[crude pumice]

What I do is make a mod list and give them the code, lot more fun when they don't expect what's coming 💀

[waxen panther]

Yeah I do the exact same

It’s so funny to hear their reactions

[crude pumice]

I wish I got the clip where one of them discovered the shy guy on Asteroid-13

[waxen panther]

omg I’ve had shy guy ever since it came out and they still haven’t seen a single one

I’ve seen like 7 in solo

[crude pumice]

Lucky as hell

I always get shyguy when it's foggy

Bro just appears out of no where

[waxen panther]

what’s his spawn chance for you?

[crude pumice]

Uhhh not sure

Last session I saw him twice

Out of like 14 moons

I kept his configuration default soo

[waxen panther]

15 then 🤯

Mine is at 12 and we just can’t find him

I think my friends have heard him cry before, but they’ve never found him

And no they still have no idea he’s in the mod list

[crude pumice]

Tell them you can kill him with a shovel

[waxen panther]

Lmao I don’t even have to tell them, they play so aggressively that they’ll try it anyway

[crude pumice]

Definitely a fuck it we ball moment

[gaunt tangle]

I don't always get the Shy Guy

But when i do, I didn't hear him, and I looked at him.

yea im just baggin loot on Gratar left and right (inf shotgun on singleplayer for backup), then i'll go in a fire exit, 180, and there he is crying. followed by the sighted sting, and me saying, "REALLY??? Really!?"

now one could say "just dont 180" to which i say id rather not get [redacted] by something else

[crude pumice]

Honestly so real

But he only activates if you look directly at his face

So if you look at his back, or see him in on the side of your screen you're fine

[civic elm]

I'm sorry for posting in here but I've asked so many people and no ones been able to give me a response; I'm having an issue where when I enter the doors of the dungeon and then leave, it teleports me out of the map- would you know why this could be happening?

Like i dont understand because its showing correctly in the preview and everything

[patent iris]

holy moly 511Davida has a scrap quantity range of 56 to 77 scrap

[round dome]

had the average gratar experience.
a boomba that i was just on the edge of, three inventories of things to carry back to the ship because my friend died to the boomba, a shy guy being perfectly positioned for getting the things out of the facility to be hell, a baboon hawk jumping out of the bushes and putting me to 20 health before i jumped down a ledge, an eyeless dog jumping out of the bushes and fighting the hawk, and me recovering almost all of the items, all while it was almost midnight

also, do the announcements on gratar actually mean anything

[patent iris]

I could've sworn we noticed new turrets spawning but I can't say for sure

[agile oak]

Oh seriously? When did you check? I loaded into this interior and it worked extremely well, not a single generation issue and fps was amazing

ALSO ALSO, the default dungeon size for mental hospital is shmicking EIGHT!!! That’s 4 times as big as Titans dungeon size, the fact that there weren’t any lag spikes seriously surprised me

I remember the first time I loaded in with it was on experimentation -I spent the entire day trying to find scrap, and only found a dust pan and the fire exit

[agile oak]

what moon is that?

[gloomy grove]

Probably a CPU issue for people instead of a GPU issue if the dungeon is size 8

Which is asinine

[agile oak]

Oh so it causes issues but only for the bad cpu computers?

I run LC on a laptop of all things

[gloomy grove]

I haven't actually playtested/checked

It's just a theory

I'm not using hospital interior until it has a decent dedicated map

[dark leaf]

this is happening to me with or without LEcore maps, could you share your modlist I want to check what mods we have in common. It's prob one of them that causes the enemy desync outside.
or did you solve it?

[obsidian heron]

is there a way to disable the christmas dropships?

[civic elm]

this is my kame house moon but i deprecated it because i cant find a solution to the doors-

[civic elm]

update your sdk

[lyric fossil]

presumably all unique scrap on your moons turned into these ?-cubes. any idea what's the issue? 🤔

[gloomy grove]

Not an issue I've had, AdvancedCompany adds those for when things break, are you using LLL?

[lyric fossil]

I am using LLL, yes

[gloomy grove]

Do you have any of LLL's config settings changed? If so, currently LLL + LECore has some issues with the config in my experience

[lyric fossil]

yup I have some stuff changed in the config

[gloomy grove]

I wasn't able to land on Pizzeria at all, and another moon had ??? (the cube item) at 180 weight for some reason

[lyric fossil]

with default it could work better?

[gloomy grove]

Try deleting your config and see, yeah

[lyric fossil]

cool thanks, will do! 👍🏼

[gloomy grove]

Make a backup so you can change stuff in AdvancedCompany and other config files if needed

I do all my changes in AdvancedCompany and modded interior config files

Works mostly fine

Other than a weird bug with my current pack where the first moon always has weather desync, but only the first one

Haven't figured that out yet

[lyric fossil]

ahhh

it's probably

that I adjusted scrap amount in LLL

config

[gloomy grove]

Yup

Try adjusting with AdvancedCompany instead, that seems to be more stable when using both

It's a bit of a process but yknow

[lyric fossil]

doesnt that only work for vanilla moons?

[gloomy grove]

Nope

[lyric fossil]

I dont have modded moons showing up in their ui menu

[gloomy grove]

For modded moons to show up, enter and leave a game, then edit

The moons aren't registered until a game is loaded

[lyric fossil]

brilliant haha thanks

[gloomy grove]

Same with modded anything else

^^

[lyric fossil]

🙌🏼

[gloomy grove]

All I ask in return for my assistance is that you install my cosmetic mod 😛 Jkjk

[lyric fossil]

(I have it already installed)

[gloomy grove]

(Oh sweet well thanks)

[lyric fossil]

gotcha! 👍🏼

[tired raft]

Try to disable Debug mods.
It may cause issues on custom moons

[waxen panther]

I did not know that, good to know!

[keen elm]

what are moons besides wesley moons

*good moons

[keen elm]

y you no like atlantica

[soft zephyr]

the amount of dogs....

and with the SCP 096... he is out there alot

[keen elm]

i never saw dogs there

but i have other factors that influence spawnrates so idk

[soft zephyr]

at night there was like 10 dogs lmao

[granite lily]

Dog island

[crude cairn]

atlanticat
is having a war with dogs

[gloomy grove]

Mainly the interior flooding, cool but doesn't mesh well with modded interiors. Combine that with Atlantica looking a little too Atlantis for me, it just feels a little too out there for me ^^

[agile oak]

Uh should I just make all the moons in the default version text?

Instead of having the Wesley moons as images

[gloomy grove]

I think so, looks cleaner imo

[forest ruin]

Wahoo

[waxen panther]

I’m surprised there’s only 4 main moon makers for such a popular game

[rose bramble]

I cant use a custom interior on asterioid, mansion just keeps spawning instead, it worked before not anymore

plz helpo

[agile oak]

Oh no, there are a lot of moon makers but they typically only work on one moon :P the fact that those 4 had enough ideas and confidence to make more than 1 is amazing

[tropic gorge]

https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVNrim9QE=/?share_link_id=633928335609

i'm trying my own attempt at a LC modded moons tier list

so far made icons for all of Wesley's and sfdesfat's moons

i'll add more as time goes on probably

also i don't really know how this works so

if you're not able to like copy it

then tell me

[oak tree]

i think its live

[tropic gorge]

uhhh

yeah i have

no idea what that means in the context of this website

[oak tree]

like uh

if you move a moon, I'd see it on my screen

[tropic gorge]

oh yeah

[oak tree]

after messing with buttons I figured out how to duplicate it

[tropic gorge]

alr cool

wait a sec bc i'm about to add the starlancer moons

[soft zephyr]

018db5b1-bc6b-4932-921d-cc6223fb6414 apparantly items are despawning on this modpack somehow

its a very small modpack and still has the despawning issue

[tropic gorge]

alr done

[oak tree]

wahoo

[tropic gorge]

12 moons able to be rated

i'm prob gonna do more tomorrow

rn i think it's a good time to sleep

[agile oak]

Miro!? Yeas ik it’s weird

[native valve]

sick

next that would be easy would be the generic moons probably

[proper rapids]

I'm on my phone right now so I can only link you to that message. But it has my modlist. #1201846882197061664 message
Did not solve it, I assume it is a moon problem and not any other mods interfering

[gloomy grove]

I've officially begun work on my first moon, though it's not gonna be nearly as polished as other moon makers, mostly for practice rn

[lapis cargo]

i cant wait then

[gloomy grove]

Haha. I plan to develop it for LethalLevelLoader. Get excited for ||130 Gorgonzola||

||The Company's last desperate attempt at finding a moon that can satiate the creature's hunger||

[lapis cargo]

funn

[waxen panther]

Samee, I started a week or so ago

I’ve learned so much already

[valid yoke]

how dangerous do you plan it to be

[dark leaf]

I solved mine, it came from Herobrines dependant mod that adds a nav mesh to the company building. Somehow messed up all the nav meshes and made the enemies show up in different places to the host and clients.

oh it got updated maybe it works now.
anyway, sorry guys for conversing on other mods than the topic

[dark leaf]

Btw huge fan of Infernis and Gratar love those maps to death.
I'd love some other ones too if there was some sync between the players, specially in Asteroid. It feels a bit silly to have such a huge feature to be local. I don't know anything about networking than it's not fun and creates even more problems, but I'd rather have the Asteroid lights linked to the facility power. That way taking the Apparatus makes it even more interesting. Or just turning on the breaker box. 🫣
Also Infernis music is really loud when going indoors at the start of the map, my friend keeps mentioning it 😆😅

[rose bramble]

just had a really weird bug, where all the water on atlantica disseapered on poolrooms

[willow plank]

did you went inside the interior and then under the water

[vapid wasp]

took a thumper corpse across the gratar bridge gap recently. very scary but very rewarding!

[gloomy grove]

Unsure atm. Probably around Offense/March tier, as it's gonna have high likelihood of sandworms, and ||a new enemy if I can make it work||.

[agile oak]

||What new enemy!!||

[gloomy grove]

Heheh. Don't get too excited, it'll be functionally very similar to existing ones

[cinder flame]

It sounds cool

[gloomy grove]

Just need a themed ||enemy|| to slap on the surface

[forest ruin]

||Major atleast has the funny lil rascals that could fit for ambient||

[cinder flame]

what difficulty will it be?

[forest ruin]

Just realized but Masa thinks we actually reached 10 custom enemies in total now (that are released)

[gloomy grove]

||I'm definitely planning on adding them to the interior if Major will allow it||

[agile oak]

Offense/march tier

[forest ruin]

||Hecc please yes, especially if Major makes the RATS MAN||

[gloomy grove]

So B, B+, A? Somewhere in that field. Needs playtesting.

Right now all I have is a flat plane in Unity so I generally have no idea when this will become a reality

[agile oak]

Peepers, Shy guy, demogorgon… what else?

[forest ruin]

Got 0 moon making experience, though should Masa be competent enough in making a moon at some point, Masa's got a bunch of moon ideas already atleast

[gloomy grove]

But is in progress

[cinder flame]

Will the map be big?

[agile oak]

Like?

[gloomy grove]

Probably not tbh, at least not for my first one

Gonna stick to vanilla-esque sizes

[agile oak]

What’s it gonna be named?

[gloomy grove]

||If anyone wants to see what I plan to use for the new enemy, DM me||

[gloomy grove]

||130 Gorgonzola||

[cinder flame]

Do you already have a history/description of the planet?

[forest ruin]

Roofed Forest Moon, which likely might eventually become a 3 moon series of spider themed moons, A third Vow/March themed Forest Moon to heal Masa's OCD, three Hygrodere/Slime moons that respectively have a solid, liquid & gas theme. maybe another volcanic moon that might be based on Crisis City

[cinder flame]

The first two ideas sound good, but the last one is so-so

[forest ruin]

We need more lava thouuugh 😩

[cinder flame]

hm

[forest ruin]

The simple idea definitely is the third vanilla forest moon though, so will most likely start with that. Because for others Masa has a more thorough, unique idea in mind.

[cinder flame]

Perhaps I've come up with an idea for my new moon

[forest ruin]

Oh?

[cinder flame]

Perhaps I'll make a lava moon

[agile oak]

What if Flooded but Lava Flooded

😈

[forest ruin]

OH GODS

evilll

[gloomy grove]

||130 Gorgonzola is a recently discovered far-off planet with a surface made of a substance similar to what people refer to as 'cheese'. While not recommended for human consumption, this cheese has proven incredible for satiating [Redacted]. The Company wants you to collect as much 'cheese' as possible. But be careful, as this 'cheese' may not be all it seems.||

[forest ruin]

The moon DEFINITELY will have to be built around the different flood levels. That does sound cool thooo..

A moon that changes its geography and its paths as time goes on

[cinder flame]

Ahaha, I like it

[forest ruin]

||We love the cheese moon||

[agile oak]

Oh so it’s literally just Earth’s moon

[forest ruin]

its cheese

[agile oak]

YAS!

[forest ruin]

Talking about cheese makes Masa want to grab a slice of cheese brb

[agile oak]

Also this is proof that the company monster is just an oversized rat

[gloomy grove]

But yeah, I found a 3D model on Sketchfab and thought ||I have to have this as an enemy||

[forest ruin]

Holy shit just realized the horror of a giant emerging from underneath the lava while aggro'd on you

WAIT TOLIAN NO--

💀

We doomed

'Flooding' the place into lava could be doable though. Very vertical, mountainous moon, lava layer at death pit, and the entire moon slowly sinking down into the lava to mimic the lava 'rising' 🤔

..But moving that much terrain might be laggy ASF

[gloomy grove]

||I'm thinking the new enemy, mechanically, will be an outdoor cross between a Forest Keeper and a Jester||

||Takes longer than a Forest Keeper to chase you if it's staring at you, but if it does fully aggro... You aren't getting away||

[forest ruin]

||EVIL||

[gloomy grove]

Yee ik :3

[forest ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/flint-lockwood-officer-earl-running-cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs-gif-26130263

[forest ruin]

That somehow feels more evil than one of Masa's mod ideas to expand the one phobia that always gets filtered

😭

[gloomy grove]

I feel like it'll be pretty balanced once I add cover and whatnot

You effectively have to let it have line of sight for like 15s

But if you do... ||Goodbye moonmen||

[forest ruin]

Become cheddar

Love how we are just using Wesley's forum as a headquarters at this point LMAO

Sorry Wesley 🥺

[gloomy grove]

[forest ruin]

Cheese collab when tho

[lapis cargo]

i got a bit scared when i heard "forest keeper" and thought you might be having the same idea as me

safe to say its a lil different

[gloomy grove]

Hahaha

[forest ruin]

Its all about those Forest keepers but when will we have Forest givers 😔

[lapis cargo]

how would you like a Forest eater?

[gloomy grove]

Trust me, ||even if our enemies ended up identical mechanically, there is no way your enemy looks like mine||

[lapis cargo]

thats fair, i took reference for mine so im just waiting on the artist to accept my friend request so i can thank him for the reference lol

[gloomy grove]

||The cheese is alive||

[agile oak]

badass company has this as an emote and its so good

[agile oak]

do you have a concept for the enemy lore or look?

[agile oak]

oh

:D

[gloomy grove]

DM me and I can show you the Sketchfab model I'm using

Just not posting it here, gotta keep it unique for some people 👀

[magic zinc]

Stuck on "waiting for players" or "seed" when loading into a moon

is this a LLL-LE incompatibility?

[tropic gorge]

what moon exactly??

[magic zinc]

Asteroid-13

it worked once, then we got stuck when trying to head back

restarted the lobby, and it was the same thing

decided to remove LLL and try again, now it seems to be working

I just really like using LLL's functionality

[blissful light]

Do you have LECore?

[magic zinc]

Indeed I do

as it's a dependency for Wesley's

[blissful light]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-mike-wazaowski-thats-it-im-out-of-ideas-out-of-ideas-ran-out-of-ideas-gif-22826867

[magic zinc]

also... it just happened again

without LLL

so LLL actually was not the problem

[blissful light]

hm

[magic zinc]

and it always seems to happen when heading back for seconds

really odd

[blissful light]

Got an error log?

[magic zinc]

okay so, after about a minute of standing in the ship with "waiting for players" displayed, one of our players crashed, and the round immediately started

[magic zinc]

I'm not sure actually

it wasn't spamming the log

I'll try to see next time

[blissful light]

That kind of error wouldn't necessarily spam the log, it'd probably be one big red exception if it logged something.
But it sounds like that player is either running a different modpack or has one of the config files set up differently

[magic zinc]

stuck on random seed again

log is not spamming any errors

[blissful light]

That error there is 99% the culprit (I don't like saying 100%, but it probably is)

Do you have configs modifying scrap count/value?

[magic zinc]

yeah something seems to be going on

although I do not know of any mods doing that

lethalUti is supposed to slightly increase scrap value on planets with active weather, but this one is clear

[blissful light]

Hm. Well that log is fine, it's just logging GI's activity.
Yeah you'll just have to try different mod setups until you can find the culprit. Anything modifying scrap should be the first thing you test removing

[magic zinc]

by modifying scrap, do we also mean mods adding scrap, like LethalThings?

[blissful light]

It's possible I guess

If multiple things are injecting extra scrap to a planet I suppose there could be a bad interaction causing a cascading effect

But try just the amount/value modifying ones first

[magic zinc]

turning off both LU and LT

🙏

Oh naur

same error

[blissful light]

is this all the same moon?

[magic zinc]

it is

[blissful light]

Hm. Just gonna have to wait for wesley then, I'm not sure where to proceed (other than like I said earlier just keep disabling mods until it works again lol)

[agile oak]

Are you using something that changes scrap amount in moons?

I’m not totally sure but this might be something about the scrap minimum amount being over the maximum

[magic zinc]

Yeah, I was playing with some friends who are rarely on, so we just decided to drop the game for the night.

Thanks for the help though.

[magic zinc]

If I am, then I am (not so blissfully) unaware of it

I'll check my AC settings

[magic zinc]

These are the defaults of the mod, but then we were trying to land on a clear moon, so they weren't even active.

[high stone]

honestly 150% for storm is too much (off topic I know)

Rain is usually easier than fog. Putting flooded on 130 is crazy because flooding effects nothing if you're even okay at the game lok

lol

mod authors be overtuning they shit

[agile oak]

nah it can do some stuff

flooded dine is unplayable without jetpack

[high stone]

Who plays Dine

[agile oak]

they can definitely affect your gameplay especially around dogs

[high stone]

like it's just
literally unoptimal ngl

[agile oak]

actually ive heard that a lot, are some of our current moons imbalanced?

Maybe a mod that fixes them/buffs those moons could be cool

[marsh panther]

I deny the flooding bit.

[forest ruin]

Masa uses Dine for Mansion maps ngl, so Rend can shine as the snowy bunker map

[marsh panther]

Flooding on march cuts off 2 fire exits. On vow it ruins the only one. Flooding forces your team to spend about 35% less time on the planet to safely extract loot

[agile oak]

doesnt rend not have turrets though?

[forest ruin]

Could've sworn Rend had turrets..

[marsh panther]

It's iether rend or dine that lacks one of em

[high stone]

Rend has turrets.

[marsh panther]

but it's landmines afaik

[high stone]

Yeah Dine lacks mines iirc

but that's also negligible if you're good at the game

[agile oak]

ah maybe, idk to be honest i just know some map doesnt have turrets apparently

[high stone]

Titan shouldn't have turrets tbh 💀

Just let the monsters be the threat because goddamn does titan need Help

[blissful light]

According to the ripped assets, Rend lacks turrets and has mines, Dine has both

[high stone]

no shot omg?

rend really is the goat

[forest ruin]

Titan has all the interiors & enemies/hazards at the same spawnrate for Masa, being the Pandora's box p much

[blissful light]

Apparently Offense has the most turrets, Dine has the most mines

[high stone]

whats Masa?

[blissful light]

@forest ruin is Masa

[forest ruin]

Trueee

[forest ruin]

Guess its time to switch around Rend & Dine then--

Thought Dine would be a good moon for mansions tbh because the name felt fitting

[high stone]

sorry, the sentence made it sound like masa is a map name

High level players only go Rend

like no joke

Not because Rend is good, but because Dine and Titan are just unbalanced. Not enough loot for the size, too much risk for essentially the same reward

Hoping v50 improves the T3 moons

[forest ruin]

All Masa's hoping for is that we get a darn third forest moon in v50

Three Arid & Snow moons, only two Forest moons. HGHHHH

[floral remnant]

it literally isnt lmao, just use an extension ladder

[marsh panther]

Quick question

How would I figure the exact name for moons to be inputted into things like custom interior generators?

Could I look in some file to see the name

[high stone]

oh they were taking in the third person i get it now

[oak tree]

I dont think you need the exact names

[rose bramble]

yea

[gaunt tangle]

it's meant to do that. my guess is to align with scavengers being unable to breathe underwater

go far enough below the water and it will lower til gone

[magic zinc]

That I can understand, but I don't care much for being a "high level player". I'm a "high value male", I optimize the game for fun with friends, not imaginary clout.

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-roblox-tiago-tiaguitos-t7agox-gif-23664222

[magic zinc]

However these weather modifiers really are too much. On LU I had stormy at 1.35x scrap amount and 1x value.

I just never really checked the default AC settings yet

[eternal coyote]

Hey @granite lily I really love all of your moons but Polarus still just crashes my game after a minute or so of loading even if it and its dependencies are the only mods. Have you figured out the "RuntimeNavMeshBuilder: Source mesh does not allow read access" error that gets spammed? I'm not positive but I think it's as simple as a checkbox in Unity

[high stone]

Bro people can find fun in hi-scores. I'm not saying the way you play isn't fun, but it feels as though you might.

[magic zinc]

I was joking

[high stone]

Sorry its 1-30 Am. my ability to get baited is really high

[magic zinc]

Ah no worries dude

I just woke up after a solid 9 hours of sleep, so I had the technical advantage :D

[gloomy grove]

Ngl I didn't find the initial response funny but this was funny as fuck. Bro woke up with the Well Rested buff

[waxen panther]

Zaphyr is on fire this morning

[heady cypress]

Indeed

He walked pass my Modpack and it got burnt In an instant

[magic zinc]

you win some you lose some

But I'm on fire today indeed

[magic zinc]

also I'm not sure if this was related to me, but I don't understand a single word I'm sorry

[magic zinc]

Is there any chance for wesley's to work without LE?

[marsh panther]

LEC

None of them should be asking for LE as a dependency anymore

[magic zinc]

Oh I meant LEC by LE

[marsh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-gif-18219884

[magic zinc]

Someone said that the problem I'm having might have to do more with LEC than anything else

[marsh panther]

LEC shouldn't cause issues with LLL 'n whatnot

[magic zinc]

I just wanna make the moons work :(

[marsh panther]

what is the problem .-.?

[magic zinc]

I get this error in the log once

when pulling the lever

and we get stuck on the loading screen

sometimes waiting for players

[marsh panther]

Could I ask which moon

[magic zinc]

sometimes infinite seed

[marsh panther]

if it's a specific moon

[magic zinc]

Asteroid 13

Haven't tried any other ones yet

[marsh panther]

h m m

[magic zinc]

we gave up

[marsh panther]

🤷‍♂️

[magic zinc]

welp

it's what it's

[marsh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/but-nevermind-meme-gif-7428456

could ye shove the dependency list

not that I'd probably be able to figure it out- but someone else who stumbles on here will... ... maybe

[magic zinc]

here it is

[marsh panther]

um..

[magic zinc]

since this, we removed
LLL
LethalUtil
Mirage (for other unrelated issue)
LethalThings

and that didn't fix it

[marsh panther]

if you were to disable things for testing, would disable-

I'd disable (you don't need to uninstall to test mods) GeneralImprovements, LethalAPI, and LethalConfig (In that order of which ones to disable first)

although, in that list it shows the very things you said you "removed" o- o

although what's the LLL in there for in that list?...

what is mirage...

oooh

[magic zinc]

thanks I'll try these

[marsh panther]

disable one, load, test, repeat

[magic zinc]

"although, in that list it shows the very things you said you "removed" o- o"
yea cause dependency strings don't care about disabled mods

[marsh panther]

if it says it has dependencies - disable all of them

[magic zinc]

they still show up

[marsh panther]

ah

[marsh panther]

Well you said removed >,>

[magic zinc]

that's why i listed them

[marsh panther]

<.<

[magic zinc]

afaik, there is little difference in functionality between the two, so I often don't care which one I say

I'll try to be more exact about it though sry

[magic zinc]

I like LLL for it's functionality, and also like it a lot more than LEC

eventually I'll only use LLL moons

[marsh panther]

LEC helps bridge that gap of moons that don't use LLL

[magic zinc]

advanced skinwalker mod basically

[marsh panther]

yeh, looked it up . ,.

[magic zinc]

but I've heard that LEC and LLL is often incompatible

[marsh panther]

impressive there's people tryin' their own take on a specific mod o- o

[magic zinc]

there are some versions that work together, but I just don't understand enough of the whole thing

[marsh panther]

LE and LLL is bad - but prior to the big LLL patch I could safely state LEC and LLL basically worked together

the big LLL patch sorta... still is somethin'... .,.' ... can't really confidently state current LLL works flawlessly with LEC but.. it should ... .,.

[magic zinc]

I see

[marsh panther]

at least in my pack they work hand in hand

[magic zinc]

can I get a code for your pack btw?

pretty please

[marsh panther]

I'm currently editing mine 😅

[magic zinc]

ah okie

its not urgent

[heady cypress]

LE went from being good to be very buggy somehow

LLL another W

[marsh panther]

Yeh, I just can't confidently state current LLL works flawlessly with LEC .n.

I'm having the most irritable issue with a specific moon right now, and it is an LE moon trying to load with LLL via. LEC so

for all I know it could be somethin' on LLL's side, or it could be a bloody audio mod for all I know... I can never confidently state what mod should conflict with another -w-'

[magic zinc]

I haven't really heard much about moon mod dev's takes on LLL, but I'm curious.

And I mean LEC moon devs obviously

what's the chance that those moons would be ported over eventually?

[marsh panther]

LLL is a beaut. What it does to the moon list in terminal is great

[magic zinc]

is that hard to do?

[marsh panther]

The only thing stopping the port are the moon devs themselves

Granted it isn't as simple as copy and paste

[magic zinc]

yes, thats why I'm asking

[marsh panther]

I wonder if there's a tutorial made for devs to get an easier understanding of moving over o -o

if there isn't, @abstract heron should put that on a to-do list ;p ... (as if their plate isn't stacked enough already 😋 )

One of these days, we'll ask AI to be like "I want this plugin to shift into fully utilizing LLL instead of LE"

then it does its best - spits out errors at you and you just manually fix a few terms or something. -u -

[keen ivy]

can someone send the link of this mod

[magic zinc]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Magic_Wesley/Wesleys_Moons/

[grizzled pewter]

i had that error too but i managed to fix it by simply restarting the game 💀

i found out that changing scrap amount/value and even spawn weights using AC caused that error and you get stuck after pulling the lever on Etern

[round dome]

idea for cosmocos
perhaps it could be hidden from the moon list, but the other moons could have hints for its existence? ||i think atlantica already has a ""map"" of it||

[magic zinc]

when restarting the game it usually worked for one single round, and then we got stuck again

decided to just play alien swarm for the rest of the night lol

[magic zinc]

if this really is it, then that's quite sad

[willow plank]

then, thats normal

[wicked sand]

is there a fix for asteroid 13 lights not syncing for every player

[grizzled pewter]

k just did some testing with only AC and Etern installed, i found a couple reasons why it happened, but kept testing until i boiled it down to "i dont know" 🫠

even without changing any spawn weights or anything, i still got the error. i did notice though, when Etern was not showing up on the Moons tab it loaded, after it showed up, i got stuck

so yeah no idea what causes it 🫠

[magic zinc]

yea..

for me it was asteroid 13 though

[rose bramble]

why

[willow plank]

he made it that way, not sure why

everytime you are on atlantica, and you go under the interior water, it just vanishes

[rose bramble]

im pretty sure thats a bug

highly doubt that he intended for that

[willow plank]

it was mostly made, since most people have a harder time seeing under water, and who knows maybe you could drown

[rose bramble]

😦

if it was configuriable that would be nice

[willow plank]

what i hope is, that he could give us something like "immunity" to drowning only from the inside, since it would be a bioshock feeling pure!

[rose bramble]

oo that would be nice, so you only walk slowly and stuff

but, you still have infinite time

[willow plank]

and its like space, where you can float jump lmao yeah!

[grizzled pewter]

@magic zinc I think i found an actual solution now, giving a value other than 0 actually you dont really need to have it be something other than 0, it can be 0 but you do need to check the box, doesnt matter if the value is 0, the box needs to be checked for ALL vanilla scraps

[marsh panther]

interesting...

All scrap had 0 rarity?

[grizzled pewter]

not all of them, some had 2 or 6 so i didnt changed it, but checking every scrap that had a value of 0 fixed it, even if the value stayed at 0

[marsh panther]

If you were to create a new preset, so it's not the 3 default ones - do the rarity values shift (in the freshly made preset)?

[grizzled pewter]

just tested it with all ImmersiveScraps scraps at 0, it still loaded

it only happens with vanilla scraps for some reason

[marsh panther]

some custom moons outright disable all vanilla scraps

[gaunt tangle]

watch Cosmocos have a chance to spawn a Jester outside 🙂

[vague hawk]

Ah yes, someone learning how to do stuff :3

[latent nexus]

why do loot bugs go next to ship and start doing a summoning ritual on acidir?

also masked can just come outside and camp the main entrance killing anyone who leaves through this might be because of maskedenemyrework

[blissful light]

Who on earth would do something like that? ✨

[blissful light]

I can't say for certain, but I'm pretty sure this won't be the case next time Wesley updates

[latent nexus]

okay its not that big of a deal anyways since it was pretty funny the first time

[gaunt tangle]

not on earth. we're in space

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[grizzled pewter]

yeah i just wanted to find a solution before bed 😭

[magic zinc]

OHHH I'll try this!

[magic zinc]

Did you do this to all of wesley's moons?

[vague hawk]

Any modded moon 😛

[magic zinc]

so just tick all items in AC

got it

[grizzled pewter]

tested it for a bit, it always loads after changing checking the box of all vanilla scraps values

i’m yet to play with friends so i can’t promise it won’t get suck after going in and out several times tho, i only landed and then left

[magic zinc]

I'm checking all loot table boxes

[grizzled pewter]

it just needs to be vanilla scraps from what i could gather, but i think that should work too lol

[grizzled pewter]

no, just etern and asteroid

[magic zinc]

They are not displayed separately, so ticking only vanilla items is probably even more difficult for me

[grizzled pewter]

yeah i wanted to specifically test vanilla ones so i disabled any scrap mod, but it should be ok

yup just checked modded scraps and it still loaded

[magic zinc]

Btw, even before ticking the boxes in AC

I couldn't recreate it solo host

But I did get a really long loading time once

[grizzled pewter]

weird, i always got it, only the second time though

did checking the boxes work (?

[magic zinc]

just finished

and I got stuck!

which is funny, bc it worked before ticking them

this is probably gonna be bc I reenabled LLL, thinking I was fine

welp, I'll figure it out eventually

[grizzled pewter]

i forgot i didn’t have LLL

installed it and got stuck

💀

[magic zinc]

Eventually this is gonna work.

is my mantra going forward

[high stone]

I usually get stuck when I'm playing something like infernis or gratar, die unfairly while playing solo, quit to menu, and reload save

sometimes that "corrupts" the save file and does that Infinite Load at Seed thing

Only way to fix it is close and reopen game

[latent nexus]

happens for atlantis too

[forest ruin]

Man, two new moons so far which doesnt load and has no forum on this server. 😔

Gonna take the time to appreciate Wesley's presence within the community. 🙏

[frozen sluice]

anyone know if these moons are gonna port to LLL?

[high stone]

idek what happened to the egypt map forum

[void basin]

I think once the LLL document update comes out it'll be considered

[cerulean ermine]

Hope so because interiors are LLL now

[latent nexus]

Yes the problem is LLL is the one of the buggiest mods in the world

[proper rapids]

I dont think so, actually LLL is saving us from an overwhelming amount of game breaking mods

[latent nexus]

ig but it still has caused a lot of issues at least theyve been updating it recently

[proper rapids]

Considering you joined recently you don't know the pain that LethalExpansion has caused back in the days xD When LLL was first anounced everyone was hyped since there finally was a way to move away from lethalexpansion

Luckily theres lethalexpansioncore atm which fixes a lot of these bugs already, but LLL is gonna be the future imo since it has a very active (and out of these 3 mods the only) active dev

[latent nexus]

well i know that some of the versions between 1.7 and 1.16 were not working well

[proper rapids]

they were still working yet buggy, yeah. But it still has a very active dev which is why things got fixed pretty quickly

Have not seen an update from the LEcore dude in a while

which could have prevented a couple of bugs in those LLL versions if I'm not mistaken

[latent nexus]

maybe, i had both and still has issues and tested LLL by it self and had the same issues

[proper rapids]

gotta report these issues then to inform the dev

[marsh panther]

LEC really does need to update ., .

Surely there's something to fix/patch since 3 weeks

[latent nexus]

on the github most of my issues have already been reported by another person

[proper rapids]

just out of curiosity: what issues are we talking about?

[latent nexus]

falling through the map and people seeing different interiors were the main ones that were reoccuring

it seems config syncing fixed this most of the time

[proper rapids]

oh yeah considering you play with a modpack I'd always recommend to share the code when playing with friends. Never played public lobbies so I can't tell about that

[abstract heron]

It’s not great to spread stuff like this homie

While LLL absolutely has some problems right now a lot of the bugs are caused by other mods, not LLL

[latent nexus]

it just caused issues in the past

[abstract heron]

Depends on the issue

[waxen panther]

[abstract heron]

You likely had issues while using LLL, that doesn’t always mean it’s because of LLL

[latent nexus]

when i thoroughly checked disableing mods its was LLL most of the time

[abstract heron]

I disagree 😛

[latent nexus]

alr bro

[abstract heron]

I’m down to hear the specific ones though in #1193461151636398080

[marsh panther]

Different interiors (or exteriors) is due to LE being awful with LLL

[abstract heron]

Nah

that was a basegame issue (really a lack of a feature) that LLL fixes in 1.1.0

Basegame every client selected what dungeon to load, with the assumption that every client had the same odds. LLL changes it so only the host picks

[marsh panther]

I must be not understanding the situation then, because LE combined with LLL caused (I dare say) guaranteed interior generation issues . _.

I haven't tested LE nowadays with LLL, cause LEC exists

[latent nexus]

ive tried it without expansion as well and have the issues of desync and moons being free

[marsh panther]

without expansion, but with core, yes?

[latent nexus]

yes i been using core

[abstract heron]

Moons being free is a reported issue in LethalExpansion and Core

[hollow moon]

I'm moving towards ditching LE/LECore completely tbh

[marsh panther]

and you're positive LE didn't sneak its way back in? It will be downloaded every time a map using LE as a dependency gets updated (hence why it's best to keep it downloaded and disabled) o- o

[abstract heron]

Core had the issue too

[marsh panther]

of being "Free"?

[latent nexus]

no i tested it with LLL by it self and modded moons that didnt use expansion were free

[abstract heron]

Yeah

[latent nexus]

this is fixed now

[abstract heron]

Yes I’m aware

[hollow moon]

Has some nice moons, but I'd prefer having interiors over moons tbh.

[marsh panther]

odd.. I know there was a time there was a free moon (noted with SCP moon) - but that was patched o -o

well- I guess technically not LLL or LE/LEC patched.. the map dev themselves made it a fix

[abstract heron]

The moons being free bug is 100% on LE/LEC end

[marsh panther]

currently there's an issue with LE moons displaying 0 in the list, but they'll show the correct cost when trying to go there

Just a minor inconvenience when sorting by price

[hollow moon]

TerminalFormatter mod fixes this actually

[marsh panther]

terminalwhatnow- wait really?

[proper rapids]

they wouldnt even show the price if it wasnt for LLL (I know LE has that feature too but LE comes with tons of other gamebreaking bugs)

[latent nexus]

it was it is not anymore this was an issue during 1.1.0 to around 1.1.3

[marsh panther]

This mod existed 4 days ago... ._ .

[hollow moon]

Yeah, it keeps LLL functions but overhauls the list display. Doesnt show hazard levels though it seems

[marsh panther]

Hazard levels are always a lie anyways

I don't think a single moon dev made their haz level correct.

[hollow moon]

I dont think the vanilla ones even make any sense lmao

[marsh panther]

(not that there's really a "Graph" or examples to go off of what S should be, or A, or B)

[latent nexus]

idk ive seen maps like polaris be hard as titan

[marsh panther]

Yeah 😅 ... but like.... Gratar?... A? ... Ok - dogs 'n such come out at like 5-6 PM

Oh what's that, Polarus?... A?... Where you have to bloody parkour to get to half of the damn entrances else you die, there are worms that can follow ye during the parkour, and long lengthy elevators?.... Yeh - A

[latent nexus]

yeah outside enemies dont come out that much and the terrain isnt very forgiving i still like it though

most moons dont try to outclass titans difficulty

[marsh panther]

Infernis A is the most ridiculous tbh.

Giants, Dogs, Spiders, Bees, Lava pitfalls

[latent nexus]

im ngl i removed infernis bc of how confusing it was

[marsh panther]

most of which appear at like 3

It's a beaut of a map-.... except when it's foggy

[latent nexus]

yes

[marsh panther]

Honestly foggy on that needs... a touch up

[latent nexus]

foggy is the worst on that map

especially with the lava pits

[marsh panther]

nightvision is a pain in the ass outside 😓

I think it has to do with how bright the damn lava is all around

even if you're not looking at it - it seems to shine up high above the damn pits

[latent nexus]

none of the outside enemies like the hoard bugs on acid or the spider on infernis seem to work

they kinda just go to the side of the ship and scream

[marsh panther]

You can fix that + etern with the starlancer mod

[latent nexus]

really?

ill have to try that

[marsh panther]

StarlancerAIFix

rejoice... and also hate the fact you made nutcrackers function on etern

[latent nexus]

spiders outside and hoard bugs outisde would be sick

idk i feel like not enough moons have nutcrackers

do they come outside on etern?

[marsh panther]

they spawn outside

[latent nexus]

bet

i never tried it because i thought i looked kinda planned

bland

[marsh panther]

it's a fine-ish map

[latent nexus]

is it also rank a or s

[marsh panther]

has forest keeper gimmicks to abuse

[waxen panther]

I’ve tried etern a whole bunch and yeah it is pretty basic but it does the job

[marsh panther]

Etern is "S"

[latent nexus]

hm that would be a nice change then

[upbeat stone]

I agree with this. The outside enemies are way too hard on Infernis for it to be hazard level A.
Had multiple occasions where I had a forest keeper or eyeless dog spawn near the ship before it is even 12 pm there. The earliest I noticed an Eyeless Dog spawning on Infernis exterior was at around 9.30 am during one of my runs.

That was not on eclipsed btw, just a regular clear weather.

[marsh panther]

literally < 3 hours ago I was in a session with a friend. I made a solid modpack, and we're pretty kitted (AC perks pretty upgraded, rocket boots, a tactical helmet, etc). I got an early-vote happening at like <4 PM. Turns out, he was going up from the fire exit ramp - and was snatched by a forest keeper who was spawning in on the left side of the ship

This was regular weather too. X3

I swear forest keepers snatching you from spawn should be god damn illegal

The one getting killed is me: https://streamable.com/v8w4xq - This has happened to me more than once. It's bloody ridiculous how they're allowed to do that >:x

I don't know what's more shocking, a dog spawning underneath and killing - or a forest keeper.

[granite lily]

LOL

[latent nexus]

that is actually halarious

[marsh panther]

we literally were stealthing to the ship from the damn forest keeper clearly visible to the front of the ship

and when I got snagged from another spawning - I could not fucking comprehend HOW I didn't notice the one grabbing me. Until this perspective came out to show it just spawned

I was like "I did not hear a SINGLE footstep anywhere else"

[latent nexus]

acid for some reason doesnt work well with the outside enemies sometimes

atleast in my experience

mainly the masked spawn camping main and tree giants gettin stuck

[marsh panther]

i mean- they run underwater

i don't think acidir had outside AI as its focus 😅

[latent nexus]

yeah the far apart platforms have killed me a couple times in that river

[upbeat stone]

Yeah the outdoor enemy spawning in this game needs some rework IMO, they shouldn't be able to materialize out of thin air and just nab a player like that.

[latent nexus]

they were disguised as the trees

[upbeat stone]

Unlike the indoor enemies which to my understanding always spawns from clear designated spots - the vents

Maybe make outdoor enemies spawn at a certain minimum distance away from players or create a sort of cooldown period where it can't immediately attack after it spawns.

[latent nexus]

ive only seen an enemy actually coming out of the vent once they have never spawned on me

or like super close to me

okay i found out why

the masked camp

exiting main on acid is in the ground but you get upwarped but masked dont so they kinda stay there and stay in the exact spot where someone would exit

[granite lily]

I've had a coilhead leave a vent in front of me
That was a jumpscare and half

[latent nexus]

they can still go back in

yeah i was holding heavy scrap and then a thumper started coming out

[waxen panther]

Hey @granite lily I was wondering what your plan was after Cosmocos is done 👀

Keep updating this mod or move on to something new?

[latent nexus]

wdym i been playing cosmocos for weeks?

[stoic quiver]

Where is it?

Where is cosmocos?

[latent nexus]

where it always has been

[stoic quiver]

Where is that?

[marsh panther]

I've had a god damn shy guy crawl out of a vent when I was staring at a coil head - near it.

Not only is it a scare and a half, it's a scare and a half and a ticking timer

[latent nexus]

in space

[stoic quiver]

Where in space?

[latent nexus]

on cosmocos

[stoic quiver]

but

Where

is

[granite lily]

Cosmocos

https://youtu.be/s4BCuHPC2Ag

[marsh panther]

That god damn voice.... He sounds so eerily familiar to a friend of mine... it's honestly scary

If I didn't see the title or channel, I would've immediately assumed for some weird ass reason he was told to voice something in a video . _.

[latent nexus]

ngl that coil made me jump

[waxen panther]

Wait has it been out all along??

[granite lily]

It will release today

[latent nexus]

oh i thought that last image was on cosmocos but thats just etern with props

wait fr

[waxen panther]

WHATTT

yippeeeeee

[latent nexus]

will it be more expensive than etern

[waxen panther]

that’s insane news

Will it be.. hidden?

Will you require to complete steps on other moons to access it

[latent nexus]

yeah

like you have to piece together a code from the scrap notes and type it in

[waxen panther]

Insane

Oh wow that’s insane

[latent nexus]

even if its not complex it still gonna be sick

[waxen panther]

And it kinda sucks because I’ve been planning to do that with my moons, shit.

It’s okay tho I’ll find another idea lol

[latent nexus]

i cant even think what its going to be

what if its like a 1% change after quota 3 that like your ship falls into a black hole and its cosmoscos

[marsh panther]

An moon generator

[waxen panther]

[marsh panther]

99% to be the moon you're supposed to land to, 1% chance it lands you in cosmoscos

You can never route to it - only hope you dodge it

[waxen panther]

[marsh panther]

The ship equivalent of going to the backrooms

[void basin]

This is genuinely awesome and gave me chills

[round dome]

first clip takes place on asteroid 13, second on aquatis, third on etern, gratar announcement plays, fourth clip on acidir, fifth on gratar, another gratar announcement plays, sixth clip on polarus, seventh on infernis

probably doesn't mean anything but eh

[upbeat stone]

That's awesome! Will it also be released as a separate mod or only on the compilation mod?

[latent nexus]

its spells out aaeggpi 😮

[upbeat stone]

While on the topic of the modded moons, I would like to share some of my personal thoughts on some of them that I've played on.
As a disclaimer, I most often play the game solo, so usually my strat is just quick looting and bailing early.

Infernis - Mostly what I've said above, the outdoors seem way too hostile from my experience and spawns way too early, for a moon with enough environmental hazards already (the lava pits). I do love the aesthetics and look of the moon though, and the volcano eruption by the end of the day is just an excellent touch.

Atlantica - Currently my favourite out of the moons I've played, love the way that part of the environment actually sinks over time and the aquatic themed scraps found here.
There's a bit of an issue though with the sinking main entrance area, I found if I left some scraps by the entrance door outside and it gets late in the day, the scraps will remain at the same y position and not "sink" along with the platform. This makes the scrap "float" upwards while the main entrance exterior moves downward in the afternoon time.

Polarus - This moon loads so slow for me, often takes minutes just to land here. As such, I haven't experienced this moon as thoroughly as I'd want to. I really hope future updates to this moon can shorten the load time.

Gratar - I'd say this is my second favourite moon out of the four. I guess I like it because the outdoor is much more friendlier here. The trek back to the ship is also very easy once I got used to it here. I'm perfectly fine with this being more of an intermediate level difficulty moon (despite the supposed hazard level), it's much more solo friendly that way to me.

Overall I love the moons designed here, they add so much above the vanilla game IMO. The vanilla paid moons (Rend, Dine, Titan) I'm honestly not too big a fan of, mostly due to the exterior being in a constant blizzard, which severely hinders vision.

I like these modded moons since they offer new exteriors to explore, without the hindrance of that constant blizzard.

[coral stone]

@granite lily, broken elevator

[round dome]

i think you were just lagging so bad that you clipped through it

[coral stone]

Basically yeah

[waxen panther]

are the 10 fps on your end or it's just the video

oh

[round dome]

i don't think wesley can do anything about that

[coral stone]

Damn, it's a pity, I'm practically losing this moon because of this, there's not even a bypass without an elevator up

[waxen panther]

:(( pain

[granite lily]

You can walk up but it's a bit long

[waxen panther]

I had to remove this moon too because of the very long loading time in multiplayer

[coral stone]

Wait, is there a bypass? I tried to find, but I didn't find anything tbh

[coral stone]

It used to be the same for me, but it seems to have gotten better after the updates

[waxen panther]

ooooooo insane I'll try it again

[round dome]

alternatively you could go in and find a fire exit which is in the ridges behind the ship

[coral stone]

Hmmm, if there are such ways, then it's my bad, it turns out

I will definitely check it later

I will be glad if this moon turns out to be playable for me without using an elevator

[blissful light]

boioioioioing

If you have any interior enemies spawning outside, don't forget to set my fix as a dependency 🤭

[coral stone]

Ooohhhh, my bad. Thanks!

[granite lily]

I have :)

[round dome]

one of my worst scares was a hoarding bug coming out of a vent with a "Yippie!" noise

[lapis cargo]

You think you can make an interior so I can fit my 70ft enemy into it?

[lapis cargo]

The cute boi deserves some love

[blissful light]

JUST PUT HIM OUTSIDE THEN

HE'S NOT COLD, HE LOOKS LIKE THE FIRES OF HELL RUN THROUGH HIS VEINS

DON'T BRING HIM INSIDE

🗣️

[lapis cargo]

He would actually be perfect in auralis

[gaunt tangle]

... glad i aint the only one playing with concepts for enhanced enemies

[forest ruin]

Imagine these fellas in Gratar

[gaunt tangle]

tho my "work" is currently just doodles

[forest ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-attack-on-titan-surprise-gif-16487979

[willow plank]

could make him crouch 👀

[lapis cargo]

Yeah he'd only be a bit uncomfortabl

[willow plank]

my second guess would be, hes in those facility holes trying to grab someone

[gaunt tangle]

with this being the only moon mod i currently have downloaded, ive had ideas about how the moons are connected, leading into "bosses" in a sort of "campaign"

thing is, LC aint something a campaign can be slapped on to improve it. nonetheless, the thoughts are there

as such, a list to keep my thoughts on as i draw out some designs

3 are currently drawn

[gaunt tangle]

from left to right, Hydro Giant, Queen of the Hoard, and The Thing Beneath the Ice.

not perfect drawings, but they get the concept across

[thorny narwhal]

why did bro say cosmocos like that i laughed lol

[dawn sierra]

🤓

[thorny narwhal]

why is bro going around finding my messages and nerd emojing them bro lol

[granite lily]

The update is out

Good luck

[hollow moon]

There is no way bro just released Cosmocos within one/all of the other moons right?

[void basin]

is it like this on the site for you?

[granite lily]

It's fine for me

[void basin]

hmmmm

btw I am extremely hyped for this

[crude pumice]

i'm seeing the samee

[hollow moon]

I have it too. Not the first time I'm seeing it on a mod either. Thunderstore is just weird sometimes ig.

[crude pumice]

images seem bugged

[dawn sierra]

🤓

[native valve]

cosmocos time yeahhhh

[dense tangle]

\o/

[edgy sentinel]

wait did it or not I am confused

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Magic_Wesley/Cosmocos_Last_Known_Position/

[hollow moon]

Oh I see

[void basin]

spoiler tag?

[hollow moon]

I thought he hid all the cosmocos stuff within the other moons or something lol

but it's its own download

[edgy sentinel]

it wont let me download

I think he did

[void basin]

oh cool

[hollow moon]

Usually takes a while for the mod managers to register them

[void basin]

probably best to just use Wesleys Moons either way

[granite lily]

Going to do a quick patch for Acidir in a moment, might fix some lag

[edgy sentinel]

Where is cosmocos

[granite lily]

I love how I find out about some neat things after I release the update

[granite lily]

Where is Cosmocos?

[edgy sentinel]

can you fix the read errors

[granite lily]

I did for Polarus

Well, as far as I could

[edgy sentinel]

also is cosmocos a new moon or is it in one of the moons.

[granite lily]

It's a new moon

[cobalt zealot]

on the topic of Acidir, this could be present on all moons idk, when its Rainy you can't see the quicksand spots

[soft zephyr]

do you need map of cosmocos to get there or is it just alot of money

[void basin]

I think figuring out how to get there is the focus of the update

[edgy sentinel]

cant go to the moon

[edgy sentinel]

bruhhh

[edgy sentinel]

I think we have to unlock something

[rose bramble]

epic

should i download the mod
where is cosmocos?

[edgy sentinel]

you got to find it

I downloaded it

[rose bramble]

bet

[edgy sentinel]

I think its at infernis

@granite lily just tell us 😭

[soft zephyr]

the map is found in the aqua moon

[granite lily]

Try route name: lastknownpositionofcosmocos

[edgy sentinel]

fr

[granite lily]

And uh.. again
Good luck

[cobalt zealot]

X.X

[edgy sentinel]

it worked

bro wtf

uhhh

[edgy sentinel]

is it just a ||recording or is there a moon too||

[granite lily]

Well.. of course
Just not there

[pale karma]

so i checked out the LastKnownPositionofCosmocos moon

and there's some sort of code i need to put to get there

but where do i go from here?

[granite lily]

||It is the start of the puzzle||

[edgy sentinel]

bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[pale karma]

@granite lily sorry for asking this but where do i go from here? i checked out the LastKnownPositionofCosmocos moon and was told some info, so now what?

[edgy sentinel]

find Cosmocos

I FOUND IT

[void basin]

no spoilers 🙏

[pale karma]

yeah no shit sherlock

but like whats the next clue to find it

[void basin]

I haven't gotten to play yet but I think theres clues on most moons

[round dome]

add clown grafitti to asteroid 13, ss13 reference :trolley:

[edgy sentinel]

I found log 1

[granite lily]

I love how you said this
Cause I just realised that I did this for all of my moons except for my moon bundle '-'

[vague hawk]

@granite lily I am jsut praying you removed christmas dropship music xD I am updating now xD

[edgy sentinel]

I cant find log 2

0.0

[granite lily]

That'll happen when LECore updates

[edgy sentinel]

where is the second log

:(

[golden stream]

@granite lily Heylo sir, i'd would suggest that u write changelog for the moonpack also (and better if it can appear in the changelog tab on thunderstore)

[blissful light]

Lmaooo happy to help 🤭

[vague hawk]

Ow bro my bad haha I thought for some reason LEC changed it already >.< Did you get the interacts synced up?

[granite lily]

Unfortunately not

[granite lily]

it is where you'll find it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vague hawk]

:< Hopefully next time :3

[vague hawk]

Hunt, Combine, Craft, Explore!

[edgy sentinel]

what

[vague hawk]

@granite lily Dunno if my browser being funny but some images seem to be not there too in readme

[golden stream]

we gettin updates but we dunno what, i need it to maintain modpacks s:

[blissful light]

Is your moon bundle a modpack or a full moon collection?

[vague hawk]

All the mooooooooooooooons @blissful light

[granite lily]

It's a collection, I've added it now thought

[blissful light]

Ah kk, was gonna say it wouldn't have borked anything if it was just a modpack

[charred hornet]

oopsies
Now I have to delete my config and copy paste it all because it all shifted

I wonder if string makes the silly long name not actually do anything

at least i hope so since I don't want to type that whole thing out in config 10+ times

[pale karma]

does the big red button tie into this?

[edgy sentinel]

is the modpack updated

[granite lily]

Yes

[polar bobcat]

why was dogs removed from asteriod

[granite lily]

They've been replaced

[vague hawk]

@granite lily Performance is massively better on Acidir BUT is there still meant to be a ton of meshes with no read access still?

[edgy sentinel]

where is the moon bro

I cant find it

[granite lily]

It's out there

[edgy sentinel]

I looked on ||Gratar everwhere and I could not find the log||

[brittle plover]

Visiting lastknownpositionofcosmocos for the first time earlier reset my employee rank from boss +50% to intern 0... that was already a couple patches ago though so don't know if that's still a thing

(it's worth it though these maps are excellent)

[edgy sentinel]

did you find it

[brittle plover]

oh not yet I want to look for it with my full group later

[gloomy oak]

Hey, great moons! me and my crew loves them! but we have noticed a bug and would like to know if its a Mod conflict or an issue that you are working on fixing.

So on every moon any creature that is meant to spawn inside the facility but you set to spawn outside always makes a beeline straight to a point the right side of the ship and becomes passive.

[granite lily]

Update the modpack.. collection?, my stupid ass forgot to add a dependency (also fixed a thing or two)

[soft zephyr]

oh yea i once had scp-096 spawn outside lmao

ended a run

most likely from another mod that makes the game harder when you take the apparatus

[pale karma]

info i have found, the ai in gratar seems to be made by a scientist made only to find the cordinates

of whatever it's called

[edgy sentinel]

where was it in gratar

[pale karma]

acidir

there's a little table with some computers and the log i found this info on

they had also said that they had left etern due to bad conditions (i think)

something along those lines

[edgy sentinel]

I got the last 2 letters

I could not find anything else tho

[pale karma]

there seems to be multiple burnt fire escape buildings so...

[edgy sentinel]

?

[pale karma]

on an unrelated note i found this in one of the big craters

[edgy sentinel]

how many letters do you have so far

[pale karma]

uhh