Weather Registry / Weather Tweaks / mrov

[viral tree]

[thorny salmon]

thats actually a pretty cool weather, why no one has made it in lethal yet

[rare sun]

What would that even be

[gray kayak]

rainy to cloudy to rainy

[robust dirge]

33% Rain Chance

[thorny salmon]

i found an issue about progressing weathers, the transitioning messages seams to show the incorect next weather, but i have the patch from SBT i think thats the problem

[rare sun]

:0

Always something up with progressive weathers 😔

[patent briar]

This is REALLY bad... Must be some issue that arose with the last Weather Tweaks update

[viral tree]

just blacklist Company

[patent briar]

I did

[rare sun]

https://tenor.com/view/oso-lunaistabby-luna-tabby-cat-gif-15027269540619359771

[viral tree]

filtering option is "True"
read the description to Filtering option

False is blacklist
True is whitelist

Since it's true, the weather's gotta be only on the company, rend, embrion & titan

[patent briar]

Wth, I never intended to change it to a whitelist

Welp, thanks

[thorny salmon]

the default value is... true tho, which shouldnt be the case

[patent briar]

Good, I am at least not crazy yet X3

I can not remember ever touching that value as well

[thorny salmon]

ah i think i know what happened

you enabled special weather configs in WeatherTweaks

which unlocks all configs for weathertweaks weathers

and thus, all values are set with weird defaults

thats why i made overrided the weather configs in my toolkit mod, to prevent this kind of thing to happen

if you enable special weather configs in weathertweaks you will have to configure everything from their default weird values, which is mid and annoying to do

i would suggested just using my toolkit instead, and create your combos in, it's so much easier

[patent briar]

I just fixed it rn

[patent briar]

I do plan to do so, good to know that I won't have to bother with this then ^-^'

[thorny salmon]

yeah its easy to fix for you, but imagine a random someone that dont understand whats going on, this specific config might make them think that the mod is broken

that is another mrov random stuff

[patent briar]

Well, I had to have this pointed out myself so yeah is bad enough ^-^'

Only reason I did not use your weather toolkit as of now is because it WILL be a time sink for me most likely as I have to go through all the new (awesome) posibilities and such

-# I do look forward to it, but it will take its while X3

[thorny salmon]

yeah, well, if you want to configure everything i guess that will take time lmao

but if you just want to play without thinking, there is none to configure

[patent briar]

I am primarily working on a modpack sooooo, yeah, I tend to want to put my hands on everything X3

[thorny salmon]

yeah ok understandable

[slow maple]

just letting you know I got this error

[drowsy willow]

fucking tweaks 😭 😭

I'll get that sorted out

[viral tree]

Who disables the weathers?

Mischevious All@9999 on clear

[drowsy willow]

what's your modpack code?

[thorny salmon]

Me

[rare sun]

WHAT

MONTY

😭

I see you didnt like it...

[slow maple]

ahh sorry I just left the house

it's my public one, though the one on TS is still on v72

Im currently updating it

I'll send the code when I get back home

[slow maple]

I'm disabling all combined weathers dw

I only use weather tweaks for the uncertain weather mechanics

and also I'll be making pack exclusive combos later on which is why I have CWTK

[thorny salmon]

There is a config I made to remove every predefined weathers, you should use it

[slow maple]

lmao fuck

I went through and disabled them one by one

thanks for letting me know

[thorny salmon]

Lmao

F I guess

And btw idk why the weathers are not being disabled with the WT config but mine will absolutely work with no problem since it will skip the registering directly

[slow maple]

hmm ok I'll try

[rare sun]

Its not a combined weather :0

[slow maple]

you get what I mean

[drowsy willow]

i have 2 possible options why it doesn't work, the fixes depend on the stuff that monty uses/has set up

the code is so fucking messy i hope it's gonna be easy to locate

oh motherfucker it's the non-weight algorithms

of course

[drowsy willow]

the code is so bad

[slow maple]

oooh yeah I do use those

[drowsy willow]

nice

i need to figure out what's happening 🥲

[dry hedge]

WeatherRegistry Vanilla weather selection algorithm still doesnt have clear weather on all moons on the first day of the savefile

[scenic zephyr]

Im using Registry from Weather selection algorithm and its working

[drowsy willow]

oh it's not really supposed to have all clear

[dry hedge]

Is there any way to config weatherregistry match vanilla behavior?

[scenic zephyr]

i didn't see "all"

[drowsy willow]

vanilla doesn't do that tho

the all clear

[dry hedge]

v70+ all moons are clear on first day

[drowsy willow]

are you serious

oh no

i'll take a look later

[scenic zephyr]

probably because the first seed is always 0 and GI and butteryfixes have random seed on the first day

[dry hedge]

having the option to make first day weather always clear on all moons as a toggle as pictured below is what i'd suggest

[drowsy willow]

yeah, that would make the most sense

[robust dirge]

do you have buttery fixes with this on?

since the weather algorithm it's the same, having the first day generate with a random seed would make moons having weathers the first day

[dry hedge]

I only installed WeatherRegistry

I remember having the issue when playing w wesley's moons and weathers so i double checked with just that mod on

[drowsy willow]

honestly i have no idea what's going on

the algorithm in vanilla didn't change

[dry hedge]

It could be that the seed that vanilla uses for first day weather just happens to have clear weather for every moon. In any case, I think it would not be a bad idea to have an option for all clear on first day with WeatherRegistry

No more waiting for clear on a moon you wanna play

[drowsy willow]

i've checked

and that specific seed that vanilla uses for those calculations (35) literally picks 0 moons to apply the weather to

that is crazy

[rare sun]

Crazy

First day vanilla can spawn with weathers, but not many

[drowsy willow]

i'm gonna check if it's something more serious in my code cause that error should never happen

[dry hedge]

Also, why does the terminal display (None) after moons with clear weather? I don't think it needs to display anything there like how vanilla does it.

[drowsy willow]

Could you send me a picture?

[drowsy willow]

oh what the hell

i think i got both of those fixed

could you check if it fixes your issues, @dry hedge ?

[dry hedge]

sure just a moment

[drowsy willow]

oh no

logs? 🥺

[drowsy willow]

what the fuck have i done

oh no

[dry hedge]

Installed AutoHookGenPatcher and it works now

[drowsy willow]

oh

🤭

[dry hedge]

I see no config option for first day clear yet

[drowsy willow]

because i've matched my algorithm settings to the game's

so it should just work when selecting vanilla

[dry hedge]

ah i see

i guess that'll mean there will be weathers if i install more moons or new weathers?

[drowsy willow]

i've quickly checked with a few standalones and that was not the case

although you can test if that is true

[dry hedge]

installed wesleys moons and theres some weather

[drowsy willow]

hmmmmmmmmmm

aight

i'm gonna add the checkbox on top of the algorithm selection

give me a second

this should work

[dry hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-18089782898853427957

lmfao I do think it should say something here though

i think in vanilla it says clear

[drowsy willow]

oh i see what i did mb

[dry hedge]

[drowsy willow]

fixed

[azure dirge]

mrov you're fired

but now we have no weather guy

mrov you're hired again

[drowsy willow]

lol

that was fast

[drowsy willow]

WeatherRegistry 0.7.5

• updated for v73
• fixed the selection algorithms using wrong seed (thanks, @dry hedge!)
• fixed clear weather showing up in the vanilla terminal

[stark scaffold]

The mod was not updated to v73? 😱

[slow maple]

https://tenor.com/view/hachiware-chiikawa-happy-stimpy-flapping-arms-gif-82452333563293721

good shit robert

[idle light]

hi mrov can we get the beanielib update

[drowsy willow]

download mrovlib

[idle light]

will do bestie

[drowsy willow]

and mrovlib2

[robust dirge]

the sequel

[idle light]

now with more mrov

[gray kayak]

if mrovlib2 is so good where's mrovlib3

[drowsy willow]

morrov

[idle light]

and 20% more alcohol

[robust dirge]

twomrovs

[daring pivot]

BeanieLib sex update 🔥

[abstract pivot]

it was so good they made a trilogy

[drowsy willow]

coming soon

he he

hey rodrigo

[idle light]

jorking to a minors work

[gray kayak]

lowk trying to think of a "how can I relate this to half life 3 not existing"

[idle light]

somehow i have heard of that before

[slow maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104986389130530859/1435121201079910522/IMG_5224.gif

he's a minor!!!!!

not allowed

[robust dirge]

where itolib sex update huh

[drowsy willow]

more like when

[daring pivot]

[slow maple]

MQLCTP coito update

[abstract pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-carry-carrying-away-bunny-bunny-walk-chill-bunny-gif-718057308746791294

[idle light]

#freebeanie

[daring pivot]

#$4.99beanie

[idle light]

can the summer sale happen

i wanna get my beanie half off

[drowsy willow]

ayo

what is going on

[daring pivot]

[robust dirge]

10% mrov lib update

[idle light]

sawblade

[drowsy willow]

i've seen enough

[idle light]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-pallas-cat-grusha-side-eye-gif-14309337178391638133

[idle light]

collect my registry's

[gray kayak]

survive my weathers

[drowsy willow]

i am not making more registries

[idle light]

just 1 more

[drowsy willow]

please don't make me 😭

[idle light]

justt oneeeee more

[slow maple]

event registry

[daring pivot]

"Just 1 more" -> "Lifelong Registry addiction"

[slow maple]

bugeyed

[drowsy willow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523282321303142400/978016531181088768/image0-32.gif

[abstract pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/one-more-time-gif-24625270

[robust dirge]

mrov registry, registers how many times mrov loads into a map

[drowsy willow]

no you did not

the gambling argument

[idle light]

one more registry

just one more

and youll hit the

uh

diamond

one more registry

make it do everything this time

and then leave the community and leave it unmaintained

🙏

i want to watch the world burn

[drowsy willow]

what do you want from me

[idle light]

eternal friendship

[daring pivot]

Will the weathers be split into individual downloads?

[idle light]

yeah i want my cloudy and my blackout seperate

@drowsy willow chop chop weatherboy

[drowsy willow]

no

[robust dirge]

we should actually bundle everything in a single mod

[wanton atlas]

every single mod?

[drowsy willow]

true

[robust dirge]

yes

[wanton atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/all-of-them-piccolo-dragon-ball-z-dragon-ball-anime-gif-17874023

[slow maple]

keslericnie moons

[robust dirge]

Expanded Universe

[idle light]

please

[drowsy willow]

how much youre offering

[idle light]

1 dollar

[robust dirge]

87 new moons with progression

i had to do the math

[slow maple]

LMAO

type of shit uhmm uhm that-one-guy-who-ran-a-pack-with-every-moon-mod-installed would run

[robust dirge]

it could be us

[idle light]

lets do it bestie

actually no i lied when can we wonderman

[thorny salmon]

what about the weathersync issue?

[idle light]

you just missed him he left to get tea or something idk i wasnt paying attention

we need to keep his chains tighter next time

he got free way too easily

[thorny salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-phone-drop-micdrop-ded-dead-gif-4568216

[slow maple]

pack died to v73

[idle light]

fucking shit

[slow maple]

i need some of its main mods back before I resume work on it

[drowsy willow]

oh my lord i forgorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

give me a sec

[slow maple]

I have the networked no fall damage done

[idle light]

which ones

[slow maple]

daily quota's one of em

[idle light]

is

is that it

oh

[slow maple]

i don't remember the rest off the top of my head

[nocturne lily]

doesnt it still work

[thorny salmon]

😔

[drowsy willow]

what was the issue chief

[thorny salmon]

was this not the massive rework you were working on?

[abstract pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-cat-annoyed-manul-sleeping-manul-waking-up-gif-5026220671257338549

Smh mrov

[drowsy willow]

oh the rework is gonna take me a while

🙁

i need to actually plan stuff

and that's boring and bullshit

[thorny salmon]

ah ok

[drowsy willow]

so i'm waiting for the moment of clarity to plan things lol

[thorny salmon]

then idk what you did, but last time you said you fixed it but it was part of the rework so idk whats going on

[idle light]

what kind of clarity...

[slow maple]

was told it wasn't updated for v73 in the thread

[idle light]

gulps nervously

teeth chatters

[nocturne lily]

yeah it wasnt updated but as far as i know (played 1 day of a quota in solo) it works

[drowsy willow]

when meds wear off

[drowsy willow]

oh was it

shit

fuck

ummmmmmmmmmmm

[thorny salmon]

lmao

[drowsy willow]

let me take a look in the dms

[slow maple]

might check it out then

I just haven't really been working on wonderman cuz I sorta hit a wall with my intended progression system for that pack

I could resume it soon tho, sounds like it'd be fun

[thorny salmon]

take a look here #1362461184468455424 message

then here https://discord.com/channels/@me/1304554317944197243/1430890937034342483 you said it wasn't fixed yet in the reworked version

[idle light]

unknown 💔

i cant stalk the conversation

[thorny salmon]

it's illegal for you to go there 🕵️

[idle light]

let me inn...

[drowsy willow]

🤭 🤭

[idle light]

i will trade you green weather if you let me in...

[thorny salmon]

Just go make other colors 🥸

[idle light]

but i dont wannaaaaa

[thorny salmon]

damn

[drowsy willow]

make a rainbow weather

that selects colors randomly

and then we will let you out

[idle light]

EASTERMAN

OH NO

[thorny salmon]

true

[viral tree]

Transgender weather - your gender and voice switch places for a whole day

And we will let you out... I guess

[drowsy willow]

😳

[slow maple]

out of the closet

https://tenor.com/view/knee-slap-spongebob-patrick-gif-5914700

[drowsy willow]

oh did i not fix it yet

fuck

i don't really recall anything about it 😭

i'll get it done asap

[viral tree]

of your mom

[ancient depot]

This is uh a pretty bad joke I'm ngl

[viral tree]

I saw that coming from you I'm not gonna lie

But it was too late

[drowsy willow]

kiszona weather

[viral tree]

[abstract pivot]

Kiszona weather sounds fire

[slow maple]

that doesnt evben make sense

youre stupid

[viral tree]

Duh nuh

[slow maple]

stupid!!

[viral tree]

Your mom

[thorny salmon]

💀 well, its ok dw, but please i really need that fixed so dont forget it next time (maybe you want me to make a github issue so you dont forget?)

[viral tree]

Using mom jokes until it stops being funny (I'm still giggling)

[thorny salmon]

wtf

[viral tree]

-#

Okay I stopped
Its time to go back to being nice

@ancient depot you smell good

[drowsy willow]

to go back you'd have to be good in the first place

[viral tree]

beGood

[drowsy willow]

what the fuck

[abstract pivot]

Okay mrov, you DONT smell good, happy?

[viral tree]

Exactly

You smell bad mrov

But beanie smells the worst

[drowsy willow]

come and smell me

[viral tree]

Bet

[dry hedge]

[viral tree]

Done
If you want full smell review, please share your toes

[drowsy willow]

you are not licking the cheese off of my toes

nasty

[viral tree]

This one's gonna be scheduled as well
To yesterday

[viral tree]

Aww hell nah I was about to review the smell
Not to discover a new chemical substance or cheese variant

[idle light]

what

[hollow yoke]

@drowsy willow hi so registry selection system cant select vanilla weathers after updating

this weather has 8 weight and is on multiple other moons not in this screenshot

the only vanilla "weather" it can be is none

oh

wait

i think this is not your fault

and gale had a stroke

[robust dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sniff-gif-26264120

[hollow yoke]

trolling!!!!

[drowsy willow]

😳

what the hell 😆

[drowsy willow]

let me know when you find out more 🥺

[hollow yoke]

ok so basically

i had this happen before

i updated a mod

i believe it was colorfulenemyvariety

and then a moment later

the update disappeared from my gale client

and caused this

this exact same thing

[drowsy willow]

mmmmmmmm

alright

[abstract pivot]

Howd you get blood moon if WR was gone though

[hollow yoke]

great question

[drowsy willow]

that's a good question lol

[abstract pivot]

It's rhetorical guys 😭

Try testing again ig maybe config with gale got fucked

[hollow yoke]

well the thing is

before the bug

after the bug

[drowsy willow]

huh

[hollow yoke]

was lucky i took a screenshot that had my gale client on it

[drowsy willow]

reboot and check again? 🥺

[hollow yoke]

doesnt fix

my theory is maybe the fetch mods button causes this

some how

i dont usually use it

[drowsy willow]

crazy

[stone gull]

I think the new update killed the bepinex chainloader

Like srsly its broken. All i know is that the mods that are having problems with it are LethalLevelLoader, WeatherRegistries, mrovlib, Dawnlib, and autoscroll

And weather registries was updated the latest, and the modpack worked before this

The modpack is Definitive Rebalance if u wanna check the logs and whatnot.

Also im not upset or anything. I genuinely respect all the work u mod devs put into your work. Im just letting u know that a bug hass occurred. If u want to take ur time and fix it ltr, i can not stop u.

@drowsy willow if u can get around to it at some point, id be very grateful. But again, no pressure nor obligation.

[drowsy willow]

Hey, downgrade the latest update of LethalLevelLoaderUpdated for now, I'll have this fixed tomorrow

[obsidian schooner]

afaik the mod that kinda broke the chainloader was LLLU with their dependencies

[stone gull]

Ah, so how do i fix that issue?

[ancient depot]

Downgrade LLLU to 1.5.1

[stone gull]

Fuuuuuuck

[obsidian schooner]

this

[stone gull]

Will it be possible that i can wait for it to be fixed in an update? Or is it impossible?

[obsidian schooner]

until LLLU gets updated or WR gets updated.
It's not that it's Broken it's more sort of an incompat with how the chainloader run with both mods

[ancient depot]

I think mrov needs to update his lib from what I saw

[obsidian schooner]

Mrov just confirmed that it will be fixed tomorrow

[stone gull]

Ok, thx

Bc my issue is that it broke my modpack. I spent like 30 hrs on that mf in the configs and +10hrs testing all the mods.

[obsidian schooner]

It broke my modpack too

just downgrading the LLLU fixed it

[stone gull]

I feel your pain

Yea, thx for the info. Bc a streamer friend of mine was gonna try out the modpack at some point

I was quite worried

[vernal totem]

If I may suggest, you could probably change "none" to "mild" on the weather display. I know it probably wasn't the intention, but it doesn't particularly make sense for there to be absolutely no weather on a moon. The terminal always says "it is currently mild weather on this moon" when selecting a moon with "no weather" anyway.

[dry hedge]

that was already fixed in the last update #1203871322841808906 message

[vernal totem]

you might be confusing the ship screen with the terminal? I literally just played lc using the mod and the ship screen read "weather: none"

[dry hedge]

oh you mean this. i agree it should say mild instead

[slow maple]

does the radar screen usually display a weather if there is no defined weather in vanilla?

[dry hedge]

it does not

[slow maple]

ye it probably should just not show the weather when you roll none

either that or change it to mild, yeah

[dry hedge]

well since this mod changes the weather to be displayed at the top, to me it makes sense to always have it there and display the weather even if its mild. I can see having the weather display be removed on clear weather be confusing for people

[slow maple]

true true

[drowsy willow]

i'll save that for later to change

[thorny salmon]

mrov 🥸

save this also pls #1203871322841808906 message

[drowsy willow]

i've saved both, thanks

[drowsy willow]

i've updated mrovlib to fix that issue

[ancient depot]

pacoito also updated LLLU lmao, the double update

but yeah this should avoid future issues on both ends ig

[blissful abyss]

hopefully this works for my modpack xD

it was perfectly fine yesterfay

updated things today and now the chainloader is fucked XD

this what ive been getting 🙁

[Debug  :   BepInEx] Skipping loading C:\Users\lloyd\AppData\Roaming\r2modmanPlus-local\LethalCompany\profiles\Acalians Company\BepInEx\plugins\qwbarch-OpusDotNet\opus.dll because it's not a valid .NET assembly. Full error: Format of the executable (.exe) or library (.dll) is invalid.
[Info   :   BepInEx] 151 plugins to load
[Warning:   BepInEx] Skipping [LethalLevelLoader 1.4.11] because a newer version exists (LethalLevelLoader 1.5.3)
[Fatal  :   BepInEx] Error occurred starting the game
[Fatal  :   BepInEx] System.Exception: Cyclic Dependency:
 - com.github.teamxiaolan.dawnlib
 - imabatby.lethallevelloader
 - MrovLib
 - mrov.WeatherRegistry
 - CodeRebirth
  at BepInEx.Utility.TopologicalSort[TNode] (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] nodes, System.Func`2[T,TResult] dependencySelector) [0x0009e] in <cebe69d7792f4abca78b685257766c60>:0 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader.DMD<BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start>()
[Message:   BepInEx] Chainloader startup complete```

[stone gull]

Alr thx

[abstract pivot]

The update for mrovlib and LLLU will fix this

[drowsy willow]

yeah, that's what the fix is for 😅

[violet gate]

o.o
[19:19:33.4558362] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object Stack trace: WeatherTweaks.Compatibility.LLL.Init () (at ./Compatibility/LethalLevelLoader.cs:14) WeatherTweaks.Plugin.Awake () (at ./Plugin.cs:57) UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type) BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start() DMD<>?-1243694212:Trampoline<BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start>?1780967648() AsyncLoggers.Patches.ChainloaderPatch:DetourStart(Action) (at ./Preloader/src/Patches/ChainloaderPatch.cs:42) DMD<>?1362849908:Hook<BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start>?-634340388() UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()

latest versions.

[obsidian schooner]

latest version

makes terminal unusable

[obsidian schooner]

sorry :,]

[daring pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[drowsy willow]

fun!

so the issue wasn't me!

@obsidian schooner @violet gate does it happen on mrovlib 0.3.6?

[obsidian schooner]

testing rn

[obsidian schooner]

not happening on mrovlib 0.3.6

[drowsy willow]

i will kill someone

[blissful abyss]

wait.. so does 0.3.7 fix the soft dependency issue but introduce a NullReferenceException ?

[drowsy willow]

honestly i don't really know why

and i'm not finding out today

downgrade mrovlib and it's gonna work 🥲

[blissful abyss]

hahaha i dont even know what the NullReferenceException even does

[drowsy willow]

it means it's trying to reference a value, which is unexpectedly null

[blissful abyss]

oh no i know that, i mean what the effect of the error is going to be in game

[drowsy willow]

that's the fun part

it can do anything

[abstract pivot]

Isn't it expectantly null?

[blissful abyss]

isnt that just Lethal Company anyway? XD

[abstract pivot]

Yeah this seems like a normal problem to me, mrovlib doesn't immediately create LLL compat class (which is right), and WT expects that it does

You load up that class when main menu loads

Oh boy WT needs some cleaning on the soft dependency side of things

But

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/blob/main/WeatherTweaks/Compatibility/LethalLevelLoader.cs#L14

As long as you get rid of this if condition you're fine @drowsy willow

I dont think there's any point to it

You already checked if the chain loader contained LLL

So no point in making WT check it since WT already checked it and soft depends on LLL

This is a bit of a dirty fix since WT still needs to fix its soft dependencies but it should make things work fine

[drowsy willow]

the entirety of WT is dirty fixes

one more surely won't hurt

[drowsy willow]

that patch runs before MrovLib registers the compatibilities, but after checking if LLL is in there lmao

i hate it so much

WeatherTweaks 1.1.7

• fixed an error with soft-compatibility with LLL

[ancient depot]

@drowsy willow @sage thorn I think the WR update broke the rotating light and made it holy

[kind crane]

seems just fine on my end

[drowsy willow]

lol

[ancient depot]

It thought the moon was Blackout for some reason is why

[drowsy willow]

lmao

[lapis fractal]

question: does None@100; Rainy@60; Stormy@40; Flooded@30; Foggy@50; Eclipsed@20; these type of values that are default in weatherregistry, are these values ripped from the game or just something you made? I'm just curious

[slow maple]

something he made I think, if I recall correctly basegame has equal chances for every weather

[drowsy willow]

Those are values carried from the beginning of Tweaks, around early 2024

We've tested them with a few people to see what feels right

aaand they're still there

so yeah, that's something that comes from me, not the game

[drowsy willow]

it's a bit more complicated than that, but yes

[slow maple]

aurr sorry sorry

[drowsy willow]

no need to be 🥺

[obtuse galleon]

Hey so I got back to Lethal mods after like 2 years and I've wondered how the multiplication for the weather works. I just jumped into a new safe and all weather events show x1 multiplicator. Do I need WeatherTweaks besides WeatherRegistry to make it work? Or is the multiplier only a thing in multiplayer

[rare sun]

the multiplier doesnt come as default

at least for vanilla weathers

you gotta add them yourself in the config

[obtuse galleon]

aight, i see, thank you ^^

[rare sun]

modded weathers come with what the dev intended to have, but vanilla ones are left for the user to choose hehe

[obtuse galleon]

Makes sense 😄 How would you rate the difficulties for the weathers Earthquake, Forsaken, Hallowed and Hurricane? or do you have a preset for balanced multipliers?

[haughty ingot]

Deadly, DEATH, Terrifying, NoCowsSadge

[rare sun]

idk if those come with multipliers by default or not

also i know hurricane is kinda buggy with weather registry? idk if it got fixed

forsaken definitely the hardest i would say

hurricane is pretty easy

hallowed is like rainy

and earthquake i havent tried

[obtuse galleon]

alright, thank you ^^

[lapis fractal]

I have a question about this if you don't mind 🙏 If this is same as vanilla, wouldn't that mean no matter what value I put None as, it will use the vanilla algorithm to determine which moons have weather, and the moons that don't get chosen default to none/clear? Does none/clear have any usage with this hybrid option?

[drowsy willow]

yeah, the clear weather won't use weights in that scenario

[lapis fractal]

What about if I moon has certain weathers that don't appear on a moon's pool and that one option that reduces the chances of all weathers so none has the same chance as if all weathers could spawn on that moon?

the Scale down clear weather option.

[drowsy willow]

oh that's a good question

i'm pretty sure the hybrid algorithm overrides that behavior

because that is a part of WeatherTweaks and it's separate weather-picking

[lapis fractal]

ahhh okokay. Thank you for your quick answers! Finally came back to Lethal and found a bunch of new weather mods so I'm trying to balance it out on my modpack.

Hybrid option is awesome

[drowsy willow]

when in doubt, enable debug logging and the weather selection will be more descriptive in the logs 😇

[lapis fractal]

I'd say it's kinda wierd to tell someone about it, but because of that combine weather mod, the one where you can essentially combine anything, I finally made a Weather: 7 weather. Blue + Blood Moon + (Possible eclipse) envisions the perfect glitch weather

It's so cool

[drowsy willow]

not the 7

😳

[lapis fractal]

Ik, I always imagined it as a blue eclipsed. but blue darkens the blood moon so much, it's like a hole in the sky, looks sick

I love nodding to glitches, removed stuff, and enemies in the files. (Though probably stupid) I have lasso moon with a ridiculously low spawn chance on everymoon. You'll never see him, but your dead if you do lolll

I hate ranting about LC, I sound nerdy ;-;

[drowsy willow]

hey, we're all nerdy here

don't worry about it 😅

[thorny salmon]

yeah... i actually asked generic why it was like that and they said they had no idea 🗿

[lapis fractal]

Haha, yeah blue weather really does Blueify everything to the extreme XD. Tried Orange and Blue together to see what happens but it didn't do anything unique. If it did I think it would've just been brown lol

[thorny salmon]

One must have overriden the visual of the other, thats expected when mixing some weathers togethers

[lapis fractal]

ahh okok. I have a question about the registry again lol. So if I recall, vanilla algorithm uses like 1-8 and a value between 0 - 1 or something to choose how many moons have a weather or not. But if it goes above 8, all moons have weathers. Does this 0-8 moon amount scale dependent on the moon amount in a modpack?

[drowsy willow]

vanilla uses level seed to determine if a moon will have weather, and (if true) it will determine which weather it will have

[lapis fractal]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/lethalcompanyzeekerss/images/5/50/Moons_weather_curve.png/revision/latest?cb=20240116110206
Then what is this chart? I'm just trying to figure it all out

[drowsy willow]

oh yeah, that

it's picking value between (0,1) and multiplying the result by the amount of moons installed

[azure dirge]

morv when are you making a moon so i can make a sprite of it please thx

[lapis fractal]

So this is the how the hybrid does it? It picks a value between 0 and 1 and multiplies the result by the amount of moons? Does it use the extra multiplication if there are 2 or more players + every 3rd day?

[drowsy willow]

you'll know first

[drowsy willow]

Hybrid uses that vanilla function to pick amount of moons that will have weather, and then uses weights to pick them

and yes, it used those conditions as well (same as vanilla)

[thorny salmon]

morv

[rare sun]

morv

[viral tree]

morv

[drowsy willow]

more morv

[coral ocean]

morv

[jaunty imp]

morv

[slow maple]

mrov

[abstract pivot]

Execute Dr minecraft

[rare sun]

Finally

[leaden flume]

close task manager

[slow maple]

https://tenor.com/view/why-did-jake-do-that-jake-the-dog-adventure-time-im-gonna-eat-it-before-you-even-get-there-jake-scream-gif-6819569238576401044

[slow maple]

"dr Minecraft you have to stop. You smoke too tough. Your swag too different. Your bitch is too bad. they'll kill you" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

[whole laurel]

does the blue weather just

make everything blue

[viral tree]

Yes

[whole laurel]

THATS IT???

😭

[viral tree]

Your family, your house, your PC, even your balls (if you have two) becomes blue

[leaden flume]

blue

[viral tree]

[whole laurel]

why do people use it if it just.

makes everything blue.

Wh y.

[viral tree]

Fun

Blue

[leaden flume]

because its blue

[whole laurel]

Tell me when green drops.

[leaden flume]

https://tenor.com/view/its-blue-dgd-demigod-duel-gif-4564448670163571237

[whole laurel]

also i heard theres an orange and evil blue weather what do those do

[leaden flume]

i was actually planning to do that lol

[viral tree]

To me too

[viral tree]

Do it... tierlist guy

[leaden flume]

if ONLY someone teached me how!

[whole laurel]

can tyou just

[viral tree]

Oh

[whole laurel]

do the same thing you did for blue. except

make it green.

[leaden flume]

pretty much

The curse of Greevil calls..

It comes.

Greevil.

https://tenor.com/view/mario-im-turning-evil-green-greevil-sonic-gif-17416907119725086932

[whole laurel]

can you make it so this image sometimes appears during blue weather

[leaden flume]

every time you drop your scrap this happens

(get it)

[viral tree]

It kinda reminded me of that one mod that flashes a God in heaven image when you're on verge of dying

[leaden flume]

((the drop button is binded to the G key))

[viral tree]

And bell tolls

[whole laurel]

G

[viral tree]

G

[rare sun]

And if i have one?

[viral tree]

Then your ball

[rare sun]

And if i dont have

[viral tree]

Then your vacuityna

I be go sleeping

[leaden flume]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-epic-cool-cool-skeleton-keyboard-gif-9406471634714037785

[rare sun]

Ye you better

Saying too much

[robust dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192948703309344859/1402460480039026728/bluedropped1.gif

[vernal totem]

this implies that if you have only one it will not become blue

[rare sun]

That subject was answered in the message above

[vernal totem]

oh mb twin

[rare sun]

Is this the moment we make up

https://tenor.com/view/hello-street-cat-gif-12254734576384811007

[drowsy willow]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-steve-carrell-what-the-hell-is-happening-confused-gif-16458249

[rare sun]

Idk man i swear this server made me gay

[drowsy willow]

what the hell 😆

[rare sun]

I would have never said that before this

[rare sun]

-# of course its a joke xD

[robust dirge]

weak

[drowsy willow]

SLEEP

[robust dirge]

I'm in bed

[drowsy willow]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-phone-gif-5747280

[robust dirge]

gnight

[rare sun]

Gnight mr 🫃 boy

[vocal dune]

i disabled Gravit freeze and solar heathwave but they still show

[drowsy willow]

modpack code? 🥺

[vocal dune]

alrighty

019ab0f0-1624-6306-a65a-cdd08d6dd582

[viral tree]

set their weight to 0
problem solved
go back to bed morv

[patent briar]

Still bad if the disabling of weathers does not work ^-^'

Have an example of my own now as well
-# (The filter was initially empty, I now put in the Company and I will set the default weight to 0)

[drowsy willow]

which weather algorithm are you using?

[patent briar]

Registry

I put all moons in the blacklist for all disabled weathers and also set their weights to 0. Would be very surprised if this occurs again because at this point it just can't be possible X3

[drowsy willow]

I don't know why it's happening lol

but I want to have it fixed

[vocal dune]

But by the way, for EOTW weather, how can i make it work ? if i remember correctly, it was because of some weather blacklist/whitelist, that make it never appear sort of ?

[drowsy willow]

what's your modpack code?

[patent briar]

General question though, should disabled weathers not appear at all in Imperium? I could always choose any of the weathers, even if disabled, using it

[patent briar]

Just a sec

[drowsy willow]

that's the thing - right now the disabling only prevents it from being picked

which doesn't even work consistently

sooo I need to redo it

[patent briar]

019ab100-225e-482d-b144-bc00f15f5c79
Only change in here since the error is now that all the disabled conditions also have a weight of 0 and a blacklist featuring all moons

[drowsy willow]

iirc it's because not every moon can have all possible weathers happening

you'd have to ask Ziggy how to (force) enable it (and if it's even possible) since I don't remember 🥲

[vocal dune]

oki doki

[patent briar]

@drowsy willow One thing worth noting though is that I can not remember seeing this problem before I installed Combined Weathers Toolkit. Before that, from all I remember, it seemed to be fixed when I fixed the blacklist configs

[abstract pivot]

shouldnt it be if its disabled it doesnt load? that's kind of why i had it in dawnlib and told you about it lol

[drowsy willow]

well, that's planned

but it requires a big change in loading behavior

soooo it's gonna be added soonish

[kind crane]

wait wtf is Gravit

[vocal dune]

Gravitational Freeze

[kind crane]

nono I mean what mod

I dont remember that weather

[vocal dune]

Its from #1432472876237455572

[kind crane]

shoulda figured lol

[hazy anvil]

ok so i have a weird problem with this mod, the first time i create a lobby it all works fine, but if i try to make the lobby again it gets stuck on loading the random seed forever and doesnt load the moon, i was disabling mods until i found the problem and it was this mod that was giving me the problem. I dont know why it could be happening at all.

[abstract pivot]

Send a log

And a modpack code

[hazy anvil]

ok the code is: 019ab273-3b9c-211b-720a-fd8225050bef

and i dont know how to see the logs xd

is it this:

[drowsy willow]

is that the log when your error happened?

[south lance]

Got a question or two! How does the weighting work between Level weights and WeatherToWeather weights? Does one take priority over the other?
Example scenario: The WeatherToWeather weights under Flooding has the weight for Stormy set to 100 if the weather was just Flooding. The Level weights for Stormy sets Experimentation at a set weight of 50. The player just left Experimentation, which had Flooding as the weather. Will the next dice roll put Stormy at a weight of 100 or 50?
Second question: how does the weighting system work on first day? Just the default weights? Default with Level weights taking priority? Something else?

[patent briar]

I assume w2w takes over moon weights as it also has priority over default weights

[drowsy willow]

Level overrides w2w

[drowsy willow]

for the second question: on the first day weather-to-weather weights are ignored, so it's gonna try to use:

1. level weights
2. defaults

[south lance]

Thank you!

[drowsy willow]

no worries 😇

if you want to check which weights are used in your modpack, change the logging type of Registry to debug

[rare sun]

WHAT ARE YOU DOING MORV

Combined + progressive weathers omg

[daring pivot]

[azure dirge]

this image brings me immense joy

[drowsy willow]

my plan was to add one feature

i don't even know if i'm halfway done

[drowsy willow]

isn't that already doable?

[rare sun]

not really

i mean maybe but from what ziggy told me

the weathers would just restart, instead of get added

so something like black fog > black fog + blackout would make black fog repeat the animation, instead of going along with how it was before

[drowsy willow]

oh yeah

that is the case

[rare sun]

so yeah

he told me he was gonna try to find a way around that but you know with all the busy stuff idk

time will tell

[alpine tiger]

@drowsy willow
Additional Context, The weather effect itself is a local volumetric fog That increases in intensity controlled by the Animator, before shutting itself off after 5 and a half minutes of real time. If you need more information on the setup let me know

[idle light]

[daring pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[gleaming idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098986494418505829/1223372892193165312/image0-19.gif

[rare sun]

Morv so cute

We gotta burn him at the stake

[drowsy willow]

what is going on

[drowsy willow]

did you ever wonder what happens when you remove windows boot manager?

the answer is PAIN

[daring pivot]

💀

[viral tree]

30% of windows made in AI

I love AI

Pawsy does too!

Meow

[viral pollen]

🐱 Meow!

[viral tree]

😊

[haughty ingot]

No bulli

Also fk microsoft for that

[viral tree]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-break-throw-dumbbell-pokemon-gif-13797403777110080420

[haughty ingot]

Dont make me pull out the might HD Trite

[ancient depot]

Do it, do it, do it

[daring pivot]

Trite Remastered

[azure dirge]

Trite needs no update

||it's perfect as is||

[haughty ingot]

||Best||

[dreamy garden]

Why is this happening

[Error : Unity Log] FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'MMHOOK_Assembly-CSharp, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies.
Stack trace:
System.Reflection.MonoMethodInfo.GetMethodInfo (System.IntPtr handle) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0000)
System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.GetPseudoCustomAttributes () (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0002)
System.MonoCustomAttrs.GetPseudoCustomAttributes (System.Reflection.ICustomAttributeProvider obj, System.Type attributeType) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_000C)
System.MonoCustomAttrs.GetCustomAttributesBase (System.Reflection.ICustomAttributeProvider obj, System.Type attributeType, System.Boolean inheritedOnly) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0021)
System.MonoCustomAttrs.GetCustomAttributes (System.Reflection.ICustomAttributeProvider obj, System.Type attributeType, System.Boolean inherit) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0037)
System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.GetCustomAttributes (System.Type attributeType, System.Boolean inherit) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0000)
WeatherRegistry.Patches.NetcodePatcher.PatchNetcodeMethods () (at ./Patches/NetcodePatcher.cs:26)
WeatherRegistry.Plugin.Awake () (at ./Plugin.cs:46)
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start()
DMD<>?-1928376498:TrampolineBepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start?-973320256()
AsyncLoggers.Patches.ChainloaderPatch:DetourStart(Action) (at ./Preloader/src/Patches/ChainloaderPatch.cs:42)
DMD<>?-1673555414:HookBepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start?94922868()
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputSystem:.cctor()

[drowsy willow]

oh shit I forgot the dependency

install https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Evaisa/HookGenPatcher/

it's gonna be fixed in next version, sorry for that 🥲

[ancient depot]

Prolly better to use AutoHookGenPatcher nowadays

I use that and keep the og one turned off

lol

[drowsy willow]

I don't need those dependencies

[ancient depot]

It's still more up to date and also is Multithreaded though so the game boots faster, the only reason I turn off the og one even though it's unnecessary is cus there's no point to have both enabled lol

But yeah it's fine to rely on either, it's just nowadays most newer mods that rely on it rely on AutoHookGen anyways

[queen shadow]

yo, any weather tweakers in the area?

its me again lol

[rare sun]

Hiiii yoshii

Long time no see!

Hope you've been doing great!

[drowsy willow]

hey Yoshi!!!

how's it going?

[gleaming idol]

Never load up save, start game, jump off and die, quit to menu, load save and then start game at 3am

[drowsy willow]

sorry, i can't reproduce it on my profile (WR, DawnLib and all their dependencies)

could you send me your profile code and explain in more detail what exactly is going on?

how are you starting the game at 3am

[rare sun]

Niche 🥀

[drowsy willow]

is that an option? 😳

[rare sun]

I mean

Maybe probably idk

Mr hat

Is thst an option

[daring pivot]

It can be done every day at a specific hour

Unless you move to a different time zone

[drowsy willow]

do you mean real time or game time

okay

fuck you

[daring pivot]

In which case you could do multiple

[drowsy willow]

🤭

[daring pivot]

[daring pivot]

(The 3AM thing's probably just a joke though lmao)

"Never do X at 3AM"

[drowsy willow]

true

that's when the devil bites

or something

[rare sun]

Thats when i bite 😈

[drowsy willow]

the devilish cheese

[gleaming idol]

sorry the 3am part was a joke to those 2017 youtube videos - the game started normally, but the process is what i did. I quit the game before the ship fully landed and i was dead still. however, the described process would cause this softlock on every save until i rebooted

Ill see if i can repeat it a 2nd time time and send code when i wake up (i go back to zzz)

[rare sun]

Gn mr hat!!

Have an amazing sleep!!

[gleaming idol]

i lied i think im just gonna accept the 3 hour sleep lol, ill go do what i said now

[gleaming idol]

019b1f70-59e3-0eee-7344-b3d520e84824

I can do consistently with this exact setup

[rare sun]

Awww

Go to sleep now!!

While you still can

[gleaming idol]

it almot 9am its time to rise and grind. I have a grauling task of doing 40 item hand rotations today

[rare sun]

Go to sleep!!

Hehehe

Its better that you sleep enough

[gleaming idol]

https://tenor.com/view/saiki-nendo-anime-shock-funny-gif-861440329934386347

[drowsy willow]

i am so out of touch holy

😆

[steep sinew]

weather seems to be fully broken for me as well, game seems to consider weather on every moon clear when terminal says otherwise, and nearly never can land on a moon or the company, i seem to see one of these two errors usually

log

pack code: 019b32b9-f81a-d3fb-0dd8-6cc4da6c9df2

[drowsy willow]

what are your steps to reproduce those issues?

[steep sinew]

open game -> go to any moon

it seems to load the moon but doors dont open and i get that error

[drowsy willow]

oh no

[drowsy willow]

oh what the hell

i can't route anywhere

oh i see

how

[azure dirge]

what's the incompatibility?

(assuming)

[drowsy willow]

it's just me breaking something in mrovlib

let me check that

[azure dirge]

feck

[drowsy willow]

l m a o

[azure dirge]

i see

(i dont see)

[drowsy willow]

oh that's not it fuck

[azure dirge]

((im blind))

[steep sinew]

yeah i was super confused

especially since this pack doesnt really have any questionable mods i dont think

[drowsy willow]

i have 3 suspects

time to check

[rare sun]

can i be a suspect

[drowsy willow]

selene's choice in lord's year 2025

that is a choice

and what was preventing you from routing anywhere

[rare sun]

wow

[drowsy willow]

there was also an error from Surfaced (which isn't maintained anymore? i don't really know)

and that error from mrovlib which i cannot recreate locally lol

[steep sinew]

i see, whoops lol

[drowsy willow]

i think i'm gonna need some feedback on that idea

what do yall think about it

[harsh flicker]

After reading, i doubt its related, but in any case i fixed a "Stuck on random seed" issue with LunarConfig relating to the interior size changes
#1390479837025538048 message
Unsure if the interior failing to load would then cause WR to throw errors instead or something

[drowsy willow]

it was that

[harsh flicker]

Seems alright for testing and such, would obvs need to be a config for normal play though

being able to force a weather for testing without needing Imperium is nice since Imperium isnt the most reliable

[drowsy willow]

my idea was to enable this only for the host, with debugging mode enabled

and just typing "rainy" isn't gonna auto-complete that 😅

[harsh flicker]

makes sense

Does Forecast work with Weather-To-Weather weights yet?

[drowsy willow]

i'm working on that 😇

[harsh flicker]

Ayy nice nice

[drowsy willow]

i see two ways i could go with displaying it:

1. display all possible weights that could be used (so default, w2w and level) next to each other
2. display weights that are being used right now and their "type" (so for example Rainy: 50 (w-2-w) or Flooded: 300 (level))

[viral tree]

yes finally weather change mod 🥺

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1149022038263078922/1325308183605936159/bounce.gif

[harsh flicker]

i would say the weights that are being used right now
like
If i use Forecast in game, its because i wanna know what my odds on are on following weathers for this moon (So that would be a mix of Weather-to-weather, and level weights which override them)
So not including the level weights defeats the point of it to me

[drowsy willow]

okay, so would you rather see all options (and obviously the highest weight will be used) or just the one that's gonna be picked?

in terms of single weahter's weight

[harsh flicker]

All the weights makes the most sense
I wouldnt want to like, literally know whats gonna occur next, the surprise of a low-weight weather showing up is cool, especially if its profitable, such as how some people configure Meteor Shower / Blood Moon etc.

[patent briar]

Option two is better as I'd prefer to just clearly see the numbers that are in the pool right now instead of all numbers, including those that could be but are not in the pool

[patent briar]

As a debug feature this is very welcome ^-^

[steep sinew]

thats what i thought but it just happened again after removing it

[drowsy willow]

try removing surfaced - it was throwing errors as well

[steep sinew]

kk will try

nope still happens

[drowsy willow]

hmm

i'll try as well

hmm i am not getting that errors

[steep sinew]

[drowsy willow]

019b37b1-2f48-b9fa-cd47-5d99c81beff8

i've disabled Surfaced and Selene's

i can normally route, land and play

[steep sinew]

hm interesting i have both disabled but still getting the same thing

maybe it was diversity? i had it enabled

[drowsy willow]

the code you've sent had it disabled already

so maybe?

[steep sinew]

yeah i enabled it since then thinking it was selenes

okay

it happend again

BUT i noticed it happened when i went to the main menu, then went back in and tried to land again

[drowsy willow]

oh okay

trying rn

[steep sinew]

yeah i loaded in -> landed at moon fine -> exited to main menu -> loaded in again -> landed at moon with error

[drowsy willow]

okay i managed to reproduce it

[drowsy willow]

found the issue

okay i have no idea how it came to be, i'll report it in LethalThings thread for them to figure it out

i'll patch it on my end not to cause errors

fixed

[steep sinew]

oh wow weird

i dont even have that item enabled either

[abstract pivot]

this is probably why

[steep sinew]

oh interesting

[steep sinew]

regardless, thank you!

[drowsy willow]

no worries

[drowsy willow]

that's the thing - after lobby reload it appears twice

and I have no idea why

and I don't really care tbh

my node matcher can't find the nodes for a different id, so it failed

[drowsy willow]

somthing like this?

[harsh flicker]

Yeah, that seems perfect!
Only confusing part is that it says weight for next "days" instead of "day"

[drowsy willow]

OH

lol didn't notice

[harsh flicker]

I do also still think the terminal text for weathers changing colour to match their monitor text color would be fire, especially for cases like this where they are all listed together, as well as on the moon page

[drowsy willow]

i will try that right now

[harsh flicker]

🔥

[drowsy willow]

my table formatter broke lmao

[harsh flicker]

YOOO

i love it personally

[rare sun]

Evil

[azure dirge]

new weather dropped! "NEW MODDED"

[viral tree]

Wtf is a drizzle

[drowsy willow]

don't worry

[jaunty imp]

make new modded weather real it'd be so peam

[ancient depot]

What does peam even mean? I’ve heard of preem cus of Cyberpunk but never peam except from you off and on randomly lol

[robust dirge]

NEW MODDED WEATHER: deletes everything that's not modded

[jaunty imp]

peak but mispelled

for funni

means the same thing

[ancient depot]

Lol

You’re so brain rotted Mu

[jaunty imp]

when have i ever not been

[jade field]

what's the new weather in the bottom right?

it's kinda cut off

[rare sun]

Maximum bainrot omg

[drowsy willow]

microsoft

[rare sun]

mrovsoft

[drowsy willow]

i would never

[drowsy willow]

will do

[primal oriole]

When I am using the mod's scrap amount and value multipliers do they stack when multiple weathers are added on the same moon?

[rare sun]

i honestly have the same question

i think they add up

but not really sure

[thorny salmon]

When talking about combined weathers, the scrap multipliers are either :

• defined by the dev
• or, take a default value that is created based on the multipliers of the weathers in that combined effect

The default value is something like
Weather1 multi + weather2 multi / number of total weathers (here, 2)
Or something very similar to that I think

The only easy way to change the default value to a custom one is to modify the Config entry for that specific combo

Or using Combined weather toolkit, json weather creator

[rare sun]

And what about progressive?

[rare sun]

Wait so a combined weather can give you less than a single weather? Omg

[thorny salmon]

Oh yeah you are right, then this must be
W1 + W2 and thats it

The division it's for the weight mb

Actually I'm not even sure lol, I'll let Mrov clarify

[drowsy willow]

they are not

I had that option when they were first introduced, but it was insane how much scrap there was

it's calculated based on weights of all the partial weathers

although I'm interested in feedback on how to improve those calculations

[drowsy willow]

that might be the case in how I calculate this

[rare sun]

Omg

Crazy

Couldnt it be like Wa + Wb - 1?

So for example 1.3 + 1.5 - 1 = 1.8?

And leave the (Wa + Wb) / n for progressive weathers

[drowsy willow]

that would make more sense lol

[rare sun]

:3

0.5 + 0.5 - 1 = 0 :3

But tbh it does make kinda sense

If you are going into a weather that gives less scrap multiplier it would make sense that the more the worst

But

0 would be uhm idk

Maybe if multiplier = 0 change to 0.1? Idk

There pob is a better equation for this but i forgor

Maybe Wa + Wb - (n-1)

That wouldnt fix the 0 thingy, but it would be better for when there is more than 2 combined weathers

[floral creek]

hello i'm searching to fix an issue in my modpack, i posted a message in #modding-general hours ago(#modding-general message) and was starting to think it could be weather registry being part of the problem(before DHU made me think otherwise), and while i already got help on this issue the problem is still here.
So here is a log( of the last time i got the issue i'm talking about) and the most recent version of my modpack(v73) : 019b4d34-08c1-8245-c601-a5451fb7d759

[rare sun]

could it be a weird config

have you messed with weather registry configs/have you tried reinstalling it?

[floral creek]

it could be, i did change some of the weather weight and scrap value/amount multiplier

i did not tried to reinstall weather registry since i don't understand what the log is showing me :x

and the issue doesn't happen often so i was thinking about understanding as much as i can before doing something that could fix the problem without me understanding it

[rare sun]

understandable

i dont really know what it could be since i also dont know how to read logs like an expert

and your code is like perfect so idk

[floral creek]

i just tried what you said(reinstalling weather registry) i also deleted the config and got the problem again(that was quite fast this time x) )

[drowsy willow]

hmm

does it happen without registry present?

[floral creek]

i'll try

oh, it did happen again without registry

[rare sun]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-moo-cat-moo-gif-8734802779884778845

[daring pivot]

Just wonderin, does it happen when generating StarlancerWarehouse specifically?

That interior had a couple issues related to entrances iirc

Doubt it though since it's somethin with a hazard or somethin probably

[floral creek]

the last time it was the pool rooms when it happened

[daring pivot]

Hmm

[floral creek]

(if it can help)

it doesn't seem to be a specific interior or moon

[daring pivot]

It's the same log

[floral creek]

oh :x

[daring pivot]

[floral creek]

my bad x)

[drowsy willow]

how does this look?

[manic cobalt]

nitpicking af but you could just do Chance as the header, % is redundant

w2w could also be transition or if too long shift but it's probably fine

[drowsy willow]

oh yeah that makes more sense 😅

[drowsy willow]

i'll see what i can cook up 🤭

[severe pelican]

I've never questioned myself on this before but is it pronounced
em • row • v
or
em • rah • v ?
🤔

Maybe there's not even an "e" sound there at all

[drowsy willow]

em•ro•v

that's what most people go with 😅

although the original pronunciation is mro•v

(in polish)

[severe pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmmmmm-hmmmmmm-hmmmm-hm-hmm-gif-2339932555530048784

I see...

I've been saying em-rah-v in my head this whole time ngl

This is good to know

[queen ingot]

morv

[haughty ingot]

Morv

Get that right

[drowsy willow]

sti•nk•boy

[drowsy willow]

star this peeps

[harsh flicker]

So, i am noticing Weather Multipliers arent working with the Apparatus atm, this is with FacilityMeltdownExperimental (since normal Meltdown doesnt work for v73)
Is this a known issue? Prior to v73 with the normal FacilityMeltdown, it correctly applied weather bonuses on top of whatever value you set for it in the Meltdown config (The config MeltdownExperimental uses is the exact same as the normal one)
And i recall before its something that had to be done on WeatherReg's end...?
Is WeatherReg maybe only checking for the normal meltdown mod in the profile instead of the Experimental one before trying to change the value?

(I set the weather multiplier to 10x to test)

My profile also uses LunarConfig+DawnLib, if that would affect it at all (i doubt though, the mod description states it cant modify the value of scraps like the Apparatus or Beehives)

Lmk if you need the profile code, but you should be able to replicate it with just WeatherReg + MeltdownExperimental (+DawnLib + LunarConfig if needed)

[harsh flicker]

After checking, the dll for Experimental is the same name as the normal, but ofc the manifest uses a different name
Unsure if that would affect the WeatherReg compat patch or not

[drowsy willow]

if meltdown is present, Registry completely skips changing apparatus value

and if the experimental version uses a different guid then i don't really know

[harsh flicker]

wait what
But prior to v73, it did
It would take the value from Meltdown and apply the multiplier to it

So does that mean its now working as intended then...?

[drowsy willow]

this little patch was added in v0.3.13

😳

[drowsy willow]

i don't know tbh

[harsh flicker]

Ohhhh
If so, could we get a toggle in the config for that so that we can apply weather multipliers to Ap with Meltdown?

Still strange though, since that change was committed a while ago, and we kept WeatherReg up to date right before v73

[drowsy willow]

i sincerely have no idea what's happening

meltdown wasn't updated, registry as well

[harsh flicker]

ah, but Meltdown has its own patch for WeatherReg
One that might not be in Experimental properly

[drowsy willow]

oh

i don't know

did you get logs from weatherregistry about detecting meltdown installed?

[harsh flicker]

i need to put info logging back on, lemme check