Weather Registry / Weather Tweaks / mrov

[hollow yoke]

thats just tuesday for me

[drowsy willow]

what do you mean back 😭

[hollow yoke]

we are so back guys

[rare sun]

For me its not only eclipsed, ive seen it be other weathers when it said another thing

[stark scaffold]

@drowsy willow
I just wanted to report that sometimes in the terminal the weather would say for example rainy and when we would land it would be clear. This happened multiple times so I don’t know if it’s known.

[queen ingot]

so ive had none of those issues last saturday when playing for like 6 hours but im enjoying the mrov-broke-everything-again chatting

its kinda entertaining

[drowsy willow]

this is fun

me wanting to work on new features but breaking everything else:

[queen ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/izuna-blue-archive-kitsune-pat-pat-pat-gif-6215431539701709524

[ember island]

i think that one already got replaced
i will send one if it happens again

[drowsy willow]

thanks 🙏

did you manage to replicate it? could you send me your modpack code? 🥺

[rare sun]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-kitten-kitty-hi-hii-hey-gif-21229532

ive been testing a lot of things and i havent seen it happen again

but i can send you the code anyways, see if you can find smth

[drowsy willow]

🙏

[rare sun]

019644e0-c991-e3ef-ec5a-c78d25b9487a :3

[coral ocean]

Hey uhm

is there a way to turn off mid weather switching?

like a config option?

[drowsy willow]

you can disable those weathers in WeatherRegistry config

[coral ocean]

perfect

thank you mrov

I just wanted to know for Legend Weathers

[rare sun]

mrov! do you plan on adding more weather + weather variants?

[abstract pivot]

nope, he's done

[hollow yoke]

add granny

[rare sun]

He died????

[abstract pivot]

or retired, probably dead though ig

[queen ingot]

I bet he's leaving weather mods behind and is gonna make his own modmanager

[young dirge]

Morvderstore

[drowsy willow]

oh dear

please no 😂

[broken gull]

mrodmranager

[queen ingot]

morvmanager

[ember island]

managed to reproduce it

Steps to reproduce:
Go to a moon with for example the weather condition eclipsed > None
Leave while it is still eclipsed (?)
Land again (dont know if it makes a difference whether you stay on the same moon)

[viral tree]

holy shit it's back

[thorny salmon]

Absolutely, the Majora Moon weather is kinda not compatible with progressive weathers system

[coral ocean]

Oh good

[keen stream]

If a weather to weather weight is specified 0, does that overwrite moon and base weight for that weather? or are weights additive?

[robust dirge]

I don't know if it's possible, but I had an idea of different severity of vanilla weathers, like Light Thunderstorm / Normal Thunderstorm / Heavy Thunderstorm or Partial Eclipse / Eclipsed / Full Eclipse... etc

It can help to ease in people to how certain weathers work and more variety of the same weathers

[hollow yoke]

the eclipsed idea specifically would have to rework the eclipsed spawn cycles

because the first 3 moons in vanilla have the cycle as one monster

a partial wouldnt change anything

and thats like

hardcoded into the moon itself, what the spawn cycle is

[robust dirge]

if they're treated as their own weather maybe you can blacklist certain moons or something

or even buff eclipse a tiny bit to make room for a partial one? idk

[hollow yoke]

this is my main point tbh

idk if weather can really alter that

[rare sun]

Ye we were talking about that like a week ago

Would be cool to have variations on the weathers, so it incentives going there more

[hollow yoke]

while i would like some incentive to go to weathered moons besides "i paid for this and dont want to waste profit potential"

i dont think making lesser versions is the answer

like if partial eclipsed does like
half of the regular eclipsed spawn cycle

thats a stark difference from the moons that have it set to 4

eclipsed offense and partial eclipsed offense would not be the same in any sense

youre just getting used to the partial eclipse, not the main eclipse

im also not really a fan of multipliers for scrap value

but thats more so just cause people set it way too high

[rare sun]

True, but ignore eclipse, think about foggy instead, making the visibility higher or lower as a variation

Thst could be cool

[hollow yoke]

thats already a thing in the vanilla game

foggy has a random density

[rare sun]

We were talking bout that the other day and nobody could remember if that really was a thing

Are you sure??

[hollow yoke]

yes

[robust dirge]

I don't think it does

there was a mod that did that, I'm pretty sure

[hollow yoke]

give me a moment

[rare sun]

Ive never seen it with different densities either

[hollow yoke]

here is two different times i landed on experimentation with foggy weather, using vanilla post processing shaders also

you can see on the right image, the telephone pole and water tank catwalk are slightly harder to see

the outlines of both are more visible on the left image

i am standing in the exact same area on both, which is right here

the camera angle is not the same

but it doesnt matter

foggy does have random density

[rare sun]

Whaaaat

But that is minimum i could barely see the difference

[hollow yoke]

there are cases its a lot more clear

[rare sun]

I meant it more like a very noticeable variation

Like you being able to see the entire ship

[hollow yoke]

i dont know the exact density range

but i have had multiple foggy weathers i could see like

at least 5 feet in front of me or so

[rare sun]

Mmm weird

[hollow yoke]

not too obstructed either

[slow maple]

i been saying this

they hated jesus cuz he spoke the truth

[slow maple]

that has happened in the past yes

worst of all is it doesn't even seem to be properly synced?? cuz I've gotten really easy foggy vows while a friend couldn't see two feet in front of himself

[drowsy willow]

it's true

the density is random between the min-max points specified by the moon creator

[drowsy willow]

weights are applied in the following order:

1. level weight
2. weather-to-weather weight
3. default weight

so it would overwrite the default one, but not the level one

[whole laurel]

is higher or lower weather weight more likely

i personally wanna disable cloudy because its just kinda not affecting much

[hollow yoke]

well this is an obvious answer question

but if you want specifics

to get the exact chance of something, you want to follow the formula of
the weight of something you want the chance for
divided by the total number of spawn weight in the entire string

heres the assurance spawn weight string of scrap in my mod pack
Bottles:90,Cash register:3,Chemical jug:40,Control pad:28,Fancy lamp:11,Garbage lid:32,Gift:20,Large axle:70,Painting:8,Soccer ball:18,Toilet paper:18,V-type engine:82,Vase:1,Cement Bag:18,Traffic cone:32,Fan:82,Tuba:8,Briefcase:8

here is the calculated chance of a vase spawning

the first 0 is always going to be a 0 and means nothing

the chance is the next 4 numbers, first two being non decimal

so a vase has a 0.16% chance to spawn on assurance in my mod pack

[tired laurel]

yo

not sure where to send this but

if anybody mentions something about blackout weathers crashing, heres another possible cause to recommend: turn this off in insanityremastered

worth mentioning im also using sciencebird tweaks and that touches the blackout

but this ^ seems to fix a random crash that i assume happens when an insanityremastered event would turn the lights off for a player

this isnt meant to be a report, just something for ppl to find if they search this and can troubleshoot the issue

[rare sun]

is weather + rainy still broken?

[drowsy willow]

😳

what was broken before?

[rare sun]

No puddles

I tried them yesterday and they still are not spawning

[drowsy willow]

oh yeah

fuck me

will fix

[drowsy willow]

i think i got it fixed

hopefully

@rare sun could you check if this build fixes your issue? 😇
https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/actions/runs/14813595303/artifacts/3055999181

[rare sun]

Oh sorry im not home today, ill be able to try it tomorrow :cc ty anyways!

[hollow yoke]

@drowsy willow

woops

included more than needed at the top

im so silly

[drowsy willow]

registry deliberately ignores imperium weather changes

because it's saving picked weathers, not weathers at lobby end

i can change that, it's just not working like that rn

[abstract pivot]

i wouldnt change that, i dont really get the point

[nocturne lily]

it makes sense in the context of using weather probe

but i don't know why you would probe the moon and then save

you would probably be saving and then probing and landing

[drowsy willow]

probe makes sense, that's true

imperium changes - in my opinion - doesn't

[nocturne lily]

as for imperium, there isn't a reason to save its changes

since imperium is just for debugging

and it can be changed again when the save is loaded anyway

[drowsy willow]

it's not costing money

i'll consider that

[hollow yoke]

the idea is to use imperium to remove a weather and then disable imperium to test without a cheat tool

at least if anyone would want to do that

[nocturne lily]

why not use probe + inf money in that scenario

[hollow yoke]

fair enough

[rare sun]

it works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🥳

[drowsy willow]

great 😇

[rare sun]

so now we wait for an update?

[drowsy willow]

i'll try to see if i need anything else to update/fix today

if not, i'll push it today

[rare sun]

yippee!!!!, another thing... was the 50/50 weather fixed?, i dont really remember

[drowsy willow]

what was the 50-50 issue?

OH I REMEMBER

[rare sun]

only first weather was getting picked

[drowsy willow]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/commit/52a54a4e77baa2742757acc48b6b8ad62432950d

[rare sun]

[drowsy willow]

it is fixed

[rare sun]

yeyy

ty mrov!!

https://tenor.com/view/cat-petting-cat-scp-scp-containment-breach-gif-9727177371314582459

[abstract pivot]

you're welcome

[rare sun]

you too Xu, your mod is awesome, i love the tornado hehe tho its a bit buggy for me

[valid ridge]

The weather weight works like the enemy weight?

[drowsy willow]

yes - all weathers' weights are added into a total and one is randomly picked from that

[brisk ether]

uh

little issue lol

currently none on this moon

[nocturne lily]

That's how weather normally works

[sage thorn]

I believe it's supposed to say "mild weather" when it's none/clear

[brisk ether]

^

[azure dirge]

there is no Zeranos, nor was there ever. None.

[drowsy willow]

😳

[thorny salmon]

speeking of zeranos... i got a random question, since i think there is infinite time on this moon, does the time passes naturally ?

[slow maple]

like if it has a full day cycle?

[thorny salmon]

Not really, it's more of if the internal time clock is active
For example it could be active but without a day cycle i assume ?

[slow maple]

uhh guh,,, idkwhat that means im tupid

[nocturne lily]

It reverts to v4 time cycle that runs in real time

It runs perpetually but drains the day count every time it passes over 24:00

So if you stay there too long you will get fired unless you have rollover

[thorny salmon]

oo ok

so Majora should work

nice

[brisk ether]

https://tenor.com/view/wreckitralph-fixitfelix-gif-19395989

[rare sun]

mrov i have a problem with blackout , when using Lethal Sponge upon entering and exiting an interior the ship's lights reset to their default values, idk if there is a config in LS to change that or if its a compat issue, i already asked on LS thread but im asking here cuz idk what's causing it

[drowsy willow]

i don't know yet, but i'll try to fix that

[young dirge]

who up weathering their registry/Tweaks

https://tenor.com/view/aguhiyori-agu-seal-agu-cute-seal-seal-clap-gif-7994364550587801526

[rare sun]

Ty! you've been so nice

[young dirge]

Morv pushed my grandma down the stairs

and stole candy from a baby

[drowsy willow]

you bet

[young dirge]

thanks i got the inheritance early

[rare sun]

See? What a nice guy he is

[drowsy willow]

spend it on a nice wine

you deserve it

[valid ridge]

Appearly some moons arent loading because of this

[drowsy willow]

for example which moons?

[valid ridge]

Baykal and 3Bilge that i saw

[drowsy willow]

alrighty

@valid ridge could you send me your modpack code? i'll try to investigate

[ember island]

i also have baykal and weather tweaks/registry but that never happened to me

must be something else that conflicts with either of the mods ig

[valid ridge]

i was testing Moons and already deleted i am seeing if the error happens again to send the code

But literally i just downloaded the mods the rest was my normal modpack that works fine

[drowsy willow]

okie

[sly plume]

Does anyone know how scrap multipliers work for combined weathers?

Like do they add together

[drowsy willow]

they're calculated based on the individual weathers' settings

buuuuut they might be calculated badly by default

you can enable those settings in WeatherTweaks config:

and then after a lobby load you'll get the same settings as normal weathers do

[sly plume]

Ohhhhh, I see it! Nice

Thanks!

[young dirge]

Who up weathering their tweaks/registry rn?

[abstract pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-oh-my-god-omg-wow-omg-excited-omg-yes-gif-12840506791085774533

[sage thorn]

Not sure what the status of this issue is since I've seen it reported before, but in case it's slipped under the radar: as of the latest version of WeatherTweaks there definitely seems to still be some problems with transition weathers persisting into the next day when leaving a moon, especially leaving before the transition occurs (I've mostly seen it happen with eclipses, but it can happen with rainy weather as well).

[slow maple]

same, it's only been visual though

[sage thorn]

for eclipses at least it seems to still trigger the extra eclipse spawns, at least in some cases

[dry hedge]

some visual stuff is also not correct. This is eclipsed + rainy weather but it only looks rainy.

[drowsy willow]

i'll investigate, sorry for that

i have a few changes done in my local builds, but i'm having a real trouble finding the time (and motivation) to finish my todos 😭

[thorny salmon]

i reported too many issues, the boy is tired of me

[drowsy willow]

i fixed all of them

almost 🥺

[rare sun]

Mrov the goat fr fr

Talking about issues, playing in a session with friends the other day we found out that blackout's light was only brighter for me(the host hehe), and not for them

[drowsy willow]

😟

[rare sun]

Was very funny cuz i had to gide them with my voice

We were playing on kast so 2 of them fell

And the other died from a dog xD

[sage thorn]

were you using true blackout from ScienceBird tweaks? if so, that's probably my fault. if not, then I think I fixed that issue with my blackout changes a while ago. though iirc mrov and I handle floodlight stuff totally differently so may not be related

[rare sun]

Dont have sciencetweaks sorryyy

Your mod is very cool but was too overwhelming for me, more bc i was finishing up my modpack so i just wanted to be done with it

I will probably use it later on, but tn i wasn't using it

Wait

[sage thorn]

no problem lol, I'm glad in this case because I don't need to debug anything

[rare sun]

Was it sciencebird tweaks

Forgot the name

[rare sun]

Yeah hehe, also when i tried your mod the floodlight were in their default state instead of the brighter light they get on blackout

And i know it has a config option but was a bit confused by it

[sage thorn]

the floodlight should work normally with blackout by default. depending how long ago that was it might've been due to an issue I fixed in an update a few weeks ago

[sage thorn]

idc if you use it or not, but just so you know: I have the configs set up so gameplay changes and other potentially unwanted stuff is all off by default, so you should just be able to install it and worry about all the scary config only if you want to. without changing the config it's basically a very light QOL and bug fix mod you'll barely notice

[rare sun]

That could probably be it

[rare sun]

Yess!! I know what it has, is just that i would love to tinker with the options bc they look very cool, but at that time i just wanted to be done with the modpack so didn't have time

But i really wanna use it

Especially with all the blackout improvements it has

And the gorgeous rotating floodlights

I really love that

Also i wanted to ask for a feature of sorts, if it was possible to have an option so the shiplights only rotate on blackout

[sage thorn]

That's probably an easy config, I can get around to it next time I'm working on the floodlight

[rare sun]

tysm!

[rancid saffron]

can somebody explain to me what dustcloud weather actually does lol.

[nocturne lily]

nothing

its just visual

[rancid saffron]

ohhh but i do have the mod to make it usable so it actually does not do anything at all?

[nocturne lily]

normally it does nothing at all. it is the dust storm effect on experimentation if you've noticed. if you have sciencebird tweaks you can change it a little, such as giving it a wind blowing sound or making it thicker, so it could be like a weaker foggy weather if you have that mod

[rancid saffron]

ohhhh I see excellent thank you for this information very helpful!

yes i have noticed the dusty effects on experientaion before but on vanilla mainly so now that makes sense it actually enhances that effect.

[vague fossil]

Is there a way to remove it telling you when the weather changes in Weather Tweaks?

[drowsy willow]

not yet

[sage thorn]

if you ever get around to adding config for that, being able to change the broadcast text would be cool too, I have something like that in my tweaks mod already

[drowsy willow]

the broadcast text?

ooooooh, the "changing weather to" text? 😅

what would be the use-case for changing that?

[sage thorn]

just personal preference really, this is what I change it to in my mod

[rare sun]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[drowsy willow]

will do

[coral ocean]

is this broken?

[ancient depot]

Nope

morv's mods all work

[coral ocean]

Oh shit

perfecto!

[ancient depot]

most mods work, just this stupid soft masking addition has been a problematic child

[coral ocean]

should mean most if not all weather mods should work maybe probably I don't fuckin know AAAAH-

[coral ocean]

What even is it though??

[ancient depot]

Some dependency for the new compass, but Xu said the compass works fine without it so idk what it's use case is

[coral ocean]

Somebody'll probably make a fix for that surely

[ancient depot]

Xu is working on that

lol

[coral ocean]

Is it doing anything directly to mods?

[coral ocean]

Xu is the fucking goat I swear

[ancient depot]

well when you use JLL or EnemySkinRegistry right now like I said that's why softmasking spams and things break

the load order for softmasking changes and it goes null and just dies

It's more volatile than it should be as an addition to the game

lol

[coral ocean]

Ah

Well this is unfortunete

Thats like the majority of the moons and interiors and shit

:(

[ancient depot]

Patience

[coral ocean]

AND I WANT MY SILLY COILHEAD

[coral ocean]

oh

it is

a virtue

Wait Lunxara

you know what we have now

don't you?

[ancient depot]

What?

[coral ocean]

a certain word

that came with v70

very special word

[ancient depot]

🤔

[coral ocean]

What you'd call the new guy

[ancient depot]

It's name is quite goofy lol

[daring pivot]

Still can't believe they named him Henry

[abstract pivot]

i cant believe zeekerss made an entity after popular mod creator pacoito

[coral ocean]

It starts with a B

can anyone guess this certain avian word?

||A B-B-BIRD BIRD BIRD, BIRD BIRDS THE WORD-||

[ancient depot]

lol

[daring pivot]

look inside

[ancient depot]

pacoito's name is Henry?

[daring pivot]

This is news to me

[abstract pivot]

i was thinking of repo

[ancient depot]

lmao

[coral ocean]

REPO enemy mod for Lethal when /j

[nocturne lily]

Fuck this stupid ass clown

Bros a hater fr

[daring pivot]

MICHAEL ¿¿¿ 💀

[hollow yoke]

MICHAEL IS HERE @frail reef

wtf

@tight wagon

(sorry random other person i pinged by accident)

[daring pivot]

Wiki history is unhinged 💀 💀

[hollow yoke]

just for context, this is a reference to a copyright infringing horror game some random company made for the halloween franchise without permission

stan knows what im talking about because a youtuber played it that both of us watch and "MICHAEL IS HERE" was funny

[frail reef]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[rare sun]

XD

[brisk ether]

The weather still says its none

Make that shit vanilla

[harsh flicker]

The weather still says its none
Keep that shit as it is to annoy Flamsey

[drowsy willow]

what do you mean by that?

[hollow yoke]

make it vanilla flavored none

[brisk ether]

Bro why

[sage thorn]

they're referring to this

[hollow yoke]

oh i see

[drowsy willow]

fuck

this

😭

will

[abstract pivot]

maske it say "it is currently skibidi on this moon"

[drowsy willow]

no

[hollow yoke]

it is currently impossible to survive on this moon

[nocturne lily]

which moon

[hollow yoke]

whichever is impossible to survive

[brisk ether]

This will what mrov

This will none?

[dry hedge]

Etern (jk its Cubatres)

[hollow yoke]

have you people never heard of jetpacks or the company cruiser

[dry hedge]

no what are those!

[drowsy willow]

this will be done

[brisk ether]

coolio

lol

[drowsy willow]

i think i've done it

[viral tree]

B- but you did nothing

[drowsy willow]

😒

[thorny salmon]

dw bobo there is like 1000+ issues in wr, mrov is fixing them all as we speak

[viral tree]

[drowsy willow]

it is painful

[queen ingot]

I believe in Mr morv

[brisk ether]

Can he fix my parent's marriage too

[viral tree]

Can he fix my broken heart?

[drowsy willow]

i am afraid no

[brisk ether]

maybe just say mild

[drowsy willow]

"it's honestly pretty mid on this moon"

[queen ingot]

Keep it none to trigger people

[drowsy willow]

make it random to be a dick

[abstract pivot]

"the landsite is clear" idk

[hollow cargo]

currently nothing to say on this moon

[abstract pivot]

fuck this moon

[hollow cargo]

that would be eclipse+stormy+flooded 🤣

[nocturne lily]

Why does it do that anyway

Does it only say mild for planets with breathable atmosphere or something

[drowsy willow]

for planets where there's no weather

that's the vanilla behaviour

[drowsy willow]

wait

why is the color different

the screen is more green

[ancient depot]

I thought WR was changing the color of the screen

[drowsy willow]

let me check for sure 💀

[daring pivot]

Putting the [g]reen in screen

[drowsy willow]

what the fuck?

WHAT

[ancient depot]

Yeah WR makes it more green, I think the reason is because Zeekerss made it darker in V70

[drowsy willow]

fucking kill me

how is it possible

[ancient depot]

and your green looks more reminiscent of v69 and before green

[drowsy willow]

okay, but

the thing is

i am not touching the background

only the text

[ancient depot]

Lmao

Weird

Maybe check the v70 diff?

[drowsy willow]

ITS NOT REGISTRY

thank FUCK for that

i'll find the culprit

[hollow yoke]

its radaredits

im pretty sure at least

personally im not really bothered by it

[hollow yoke]

wtf

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-falling-down-stairs-gif-5462499368330342031

[drowsy willow]

it's lethal sponge

[ancient depot]

Oh, it's probably this setting

[drowsy willow]

let me confirm that

it is indeed that

holy fuck i got jumpscared by the GREEN

after my month of testing i thought i fucked something super badly 😭

[ancient depot]

Lol an understandable worry

[drowsy willow]

my track record makes me cautious of stuff like this lmao

i am 🤏 this close to doing everything i wanted

[sage thorn]

I feel like I saw the Blackout text as more purple on v70 but without lethal sponge, so maybe still v70 contributing to it?

[drowsy willow]

i don't remember having this issue on earlier versions, and i didn't update any settings since then

so maybe?

[abstract pivot]

me waiting on being able to give my weathers colour through the editor

[drowsy willow]

😓

[abstract pivot]

i dont actually know why it doesnt work lol

[drowsy willow]

i think i know

and i hate it

it's because i do all my initialization stuff in a constructor

and doing that in editor never calls it 🙃

[abstract pivot]

[drowsy willow]

i will fix it

but it's not my top priority 🥺

[abstract pivot]

eh its fine, i dont care for the colour myself

i will point people to you though if they ask

[drowsy willow]

fair enough

i do have to do editor-friendly stuff soonish

i said a year ago

😦

[abstract pivot]

you're not missing much editor support, it is just the constructor lol

[drowsy willow]

which makes it not work in the editor

pain

[abstract pivot]

mhm, i managed to circumvent most of it and still have it be happy (not in a super good way) but colour didnt stick around

[drowsy willow]

that is interesting

i'll get in touch with you when i do work on it

[nocturne lily]

just got this error

landed on a custom moon (Aquar) with weather of Stormy > Rainy

didn't seem to have any effect on anything though

[ancient depot]

BetterLightning is broken in v70

you need to remove it

[nocturne lily]

ngl

[ancient depot]

It just needs a recomp cus a method got changed

[nocturne lily]

i didn't notice the better lightning error at the top

there were other betterlightning errors in the log that i did report

[ancient depot]

I was playing earlier and lightning would only strike next to the ship, and it spammed MissingMethodExceptions every lightning strike

[nocturne lily]

but i just saw WR on this one

[ancient depot]

lol

Yeah I got to play with TestAccount today and it was great to finally have him back

[nocturne lily]

first matter of business is with doorbreach right

[ancient depot]

Doorbreach works fine

I haven't had any problems at least

[nocturne lily]

i thought he said he was fixing it today

[ancient depot]

https://github.com/Test-Account666/LethalCompany-BetterLightning/issues/1 But he did ask me to add the issue to github so he wouldn't forget and I did

He fixed TestAccountCore

[nocturne lily]

i know that

there was an error on lobby exit with doorbreach i think

[ancient depot]

Oh I don't remember seeing that

[nocturne lily]

i only saw it after QC broke the exit function but it was doorbreach errors

[ancient depot]

Weird, I haven't had any issues with DoorBreach

[nocturne lily]

its probably a harmless error

[harsh flicker]

There was also an error with the config, the blacklist thing hasn't ever worked
It just defaults to "All" because the flags arent being used/set properly
So shovels will always be able to open locked doors regardless of the settings

I've been waiting on that one to get fixed

[abstract pivot]

just letting you know it magically works now

though at some point u still gotta switch for unity' convenience

[thorny salmon]

Uhhh soooo why is the color different? I don't have Lethal Sponge

[drowsy willow]

what do you mean

😳

[thorny salmon]

hum, i also have the different colors without lethal sponge, lmao?

[drowsy willow]

no

please

😭

[thorny salmon]

I thought it was vanilla 💀

[ancient depot]

If you have GI make sure you don't have the setting to turn off post processing on

[thorny salmon]

ill check

this? both are false

[ancient depot]

Weird

I mean the monitor is fine for me

lol

maybe Orbits if you use that?

[thorny salmon]

i dont even know what this is lol

[drowsy willow]

disable mods one-by-one until it's fixed 😔

[thorny salmon]

💀

[ancient depot]

It fine for me

[thorny salmon]

ok one moment

just to be sure

we are talking about this yeah?

dust clouds color is supposed to be green no?

[queen ingot]

I though they are talking about the green background which has a odd black square in it

[drowsy willow]

yes - because the background is more green, the colors are more green as well

which i could account for on my side if there was a single cause

[drowsy willow]

its supposed to be light-brownish

[thorny salmon]

ok, ill check in my pack

well

idk, its still the wrong color

[thorny salmon]

i dont have that green of a color as with Lethal sponge, so i got this one (should be the correct color)
But even with this one weathers colors are wrong

[rare sun]

mrov!! do the weather+weather thingy works with modded weather?

like can i get majora+heatwave+eclipse?

[hollow yoke]

what deranged person would do heatwave + eclipsed

[rare sun]

me

https://tenor.com/view/rise-hand-rise-hand-rise-up-cat-me-too-gif-24649542

it would be so funny, imagine rainy+flooded+stormy+foggy+eclipsed+cloudy+dustclouds+blackout+heatwave+solar flare+snowfall+blizzard+toxic smog+majora moon+tornado+meteor shower

[thorny salmon]

🗿

Can weather registery even handle that??

[drowsy willow]

it can, but the combos have to be predefined

so it technically can, not actually right now

[drowsy willow]

could you send me a screenshot of how it looks for you?

[thorny salmon]

not very green, but weather color is wrong

[drowsy willow]

what the fuck 😭

[thorny salmon]

Just to inform you (sadly), I tested with the beta WR you sent me, but also with the actual released version but its the same

[rare sun]

Ye Zigzag was asking bc he wants to have majora moon with other weathers like eclipsed haha

[drowsy willow]

oh, if you create the weathers - yes

you can make them

[rare sun]

oh really???!!

that's awesome

maybe Zigzag can cook smth up

[hollow cargo]

don't know if planet videos need to be updated or what but when is off, there is black square on the monitor

[ancient depot]

It's due to how the radar was changed, load the game fully vanilla and route to adamance and you'll see the same thing

[hollow cargo]

i see I'll just enable the videos again so it will not weird to look at

[ancient depot]

Yeah this has made me wanna readd orbits too

lol

[hollow cargo]

im thinking the same 🤣

[thorny salmon]

Ohohh how??

[drowsy willow]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/blob/main/WeatherTweaks/Init.cs

[drowsy willow]

that's because the monitor slightly changed the color and it looks really bad when there's no planet video displayed

[thorny salmon]

oh thats easy as that?? very niiiice, ill add compatibility soonish

[drowsy willow]

🤭

[drowsy willow]

WeatherRegistry 0.6.0

• added Forecast command (thanks: @queen shadow , @abstract pivot !)
• added IsGameStarted check for apparatus patches (fixes this issue) (thanks, ajsglist!)
• moved EntranceTeleportPatch.isPlayerInside field to Settings.IsPlayerInside (this is a breaking change)
• changed Plugin.GUID to PluginInfo.PLUGIN_GUID (this is a breaking change)
• fixed not switching weather effects correctly when using Imperium teleportation (thanks, @thorny salmon !)
• fixed issues with vanilla weathers not enabling correctly in certain situations (thanks, @thorny salmon !)
• fixed Registry not displaying mild weather info in the terminal (thanks, @sage thorn !)
• fixed effect overrides not having correct names
• adjusted weather colors to be displayed properly in v70

[queen shadow]

oh shit

surprise ping

OH SHIT FORECAST COMMAND?

AYO

[drowsy willow]

heart attack update

[queen shadow]

I know i havent been here for like quite some time - been on a break from LC because it got stagnant in our group and i still havent been able to update my own mods - but this is awesome stuff

hows stuff been going morbius

[drowsy willow]

oh dear

a lot happened

[queen shadow]

🦌

oh?

[rare sun]

Yippeee!!!!

[drowsy willow]

and this is the first time since March i've got time and energy to work on LC 😅

[rare sun]

Mrov the goat!!

[drowsy willow]

this update took me about a month of slow work

[jade field]

Seems like everyone took a break in March (me included)

[rare sun]

Did the rainy weather got fixed??

[rare sun]

Ye

[drowsy willow]

what happened to rainy 💀

oh no

[queen shadow]

Mhm, cool to see that big Z is back at it again though

[jade field]

Yee

[drowsy willow]

a lot of things happened at the same time, it was really hard to find the momentum again

[jade field]

I wonder if zeekerss is planning on doing another update for lethal or going right back to the new game that I keep forgetting the full name of

[proud zenith]

probably alternating if I had to guess, but rn pretty sure his main focus is trying to patch up V70

[queen shadow]

Didnt a lot of folks also shift to REPO too because of LC getting stagnant?

I never played it - no hate against those devs, they seem like cool people, but it just didnt really interest me. The memes are funny though.

[drowsy willow]

the issue with REPO (at least from my perspective) is the lack of variety compared to lethal

[queen ingot]

the only good thing about repo is the text to speech imo

[drowsy willow]

i got bored to fuck after 10 games

but the TTS and physics mechanic are supreme

[queen ingot]

i rarely ever play it cuz i also think its boring

[queen shadow]

Yeah thats the impression i got, that it just gets stale quickly

A friend of mine gifted it to me but ive never launched it. Just not interested in playing it compared to lethal.

🤷‍♂️

[drowsy willow]

the main discovery for me was that the games are not fun in themselves, but my friends are lol

[rare sun]

We were talking bout a while back hehe, weather + rainy wasn't working

Idk if that got fixed

[queen ingot]

also the mods or the game are jank, even if we use the lobby expansion mod in repo the game just starts softlocking when playing with 6 people or more, even without the mod 6 players just softlocks us constantly wich doesnt happen in lethal cuz idk either the mods or the game are just better lol

[drowsy willow]

i think it's fixed now - tweaks update is also uploading

[queen shadow]

Yeah i think thats a key part of its fun - having good friends with it and actually engaging with eachother inside the game.

[rare sun]

Yippee!!!

[drowsy willow]

repo's netcode is completely different

[jade field]

From what I’ve heard, repo is very fun but gets quite stale after a while. But lethal on the other hand is overall less fun (but has TONS of moments that makes it incredibly fun) and doesn’t get nearly as stale as repo

[rare sun]

For me i feel Lethal has more replayability than repo, and can be enjoyed even when playing alone

[queen shadow]

I think it having surface areas is a big reason

isnt repo only like 3 levels in vanilla, with the car being like basically rammed into it?

[drowsy willow]

lethal has a map+interior+weather combos that make a lot of combinations

repo has levels

[rare sun]

Lethal has more content too! Not talking bout the mods but vanilla itself feels it has more content

[drowsy willow]

😔

[rare sun]

Enemies either outside and inside

[queen ingot]

lethal has better monsters

[queen shadow]

I think its also that Lethal kinda set the stage, so even if repo adds similar amounts of stuff, it just feels like "a different lethal"

[rare sun]

True

[drowsy willow]

lethal was the first in the "genre"

[queen shadow]

Its the same reason most phasmo clones didnt work out.

[rare sun]

It really confuses me that the devs always say they werent inspired by lethal

[queen shadow]

They all just tried to be the same thing with like a few differences, but you could still tell its very much like it.

[rare sun]

Like

[drowsy willow]

of course it's gonna be a point of comparison

[rare sun]

Aint no way

[queen ingot]

this chit-chat reminded me that i wanted to test melanies tts mod for lethal

[drowsy willow]

it is possible for two people to have the same idea independently

[rare sun]

Yes! But still weird

[jade field]

This is so real

[drowsy willow]

and using the same genre is not necessarily an inspiration

[queen shadow]

Absolutely - in an alternate timeline where repo released before lethal and became the established title, people would be making the same comparisons.

[drowsy willow]

and - honestly - playing both i don't see many similarities

there is:

• random maps
• random loot
• random monsters

and that's it

[queen shadow]

And roguelike progression

[jade field]

Doesn’t repo have a quota?

[drowsy willow]

interaction with the game world is different (inventory vs physics), controlling the game is different (terminal vs button to start)

[abstract pivot]

he's working on getting the game out of early access

also if mrov's breaking changes break coderebirth then uh i cant do much about it, i cant update for a while

but i dont think i tab into his plugininfo stuff anyway

[drowsy willow]

it 99.9999% shouldn't

unless you were accessing those two thingies 😳

[abstract pivot]

i doubts it

[drowsy willow]

we're in the clear then

[queen shadow]

Not in the same way as lethal - it has its quota as part of what you need to progress to the next level - as opposed to doing multiple levels to meet a quota spanning multiple days

[rare sun]

Ok well yeah sorry :c, i didn't thought ab it that way

[jade field]

Ah, that makes sense

[drowsy willow]

no worries - those aren't the obvious things to everyone

😅

[rare sun]

It changes enough things to be unique!

[drowsy willow]

i just don't think of those two as being the same

[rare sun]

Still lethal is better >:3

[drowsy willow]

since the interaction player-world is completely different

[rare sun]

I honestly even with your explanation i can't see them too different from each other

[drowsy willow]

(and my major was UI/UX so i'm biased in seeing this 😅 )

[queen shadow]

Honestly though, I think another big thing overall with Phasmo/Lethal/REPO/etc. is the shift towards the "two weeks of short fun / content creator clips mindset" philosophy that seems to be the focus of many games these days.

The games are designed inherently for short sessions, with systems that encourage the style of content where you get short funny moments. Which is how you get people uploading content, which then goes viral and gets you attention. Its how all of those games i mentioned blew up.

[drowsy willow]

the general gameplay loop is the same

but the amount of player control/randomness involved is orders of magnitude different

[drowsy willow]

that's also true

[rare sun]

Bc comparing something like REPO to Lethal makes much more sense than Lethal to Phasmo for example

[drowsy willow]

thing is - lethal wasn't made to be like that

but the clones feel like it

[drowsy willow]

oh, absolutely

[rare sun]

REPO goes so hard in the funny aspect of it

[queen shadow]

Lethal was a genuine passion project that ended up getting hit with the short content virality syndrome

[jade field]

Phasmo imo doesn’t make for good clip farming, lethal is accidentally a clip farmer, and repo was made to be a clip farm (from what I’ve seen)

[queen shadow]

Look at all the late 2020 / early-mid 2021 scare compilations of it

Those were extremely popular

[jade field]

Ye

[queen shadow]

But yeah

[drowsy willow]

that's the general trend tho, right? the tiktokfication of everything

[queen shadow]

Yeah and it sucks

[drowsy willow]

the attention span declining

ragebaiting everything and everyone just to get those 0.05$ of extra ad money

[abstract pivot]

lethal is still really popular and assuming it isnt is just purely wrong

[queen shadow]

As someone who doesnt have any form of short content in my life, i hate how the trend is shifting to it

[drowsy willow]

meanwhile it's doing real harm to real people

shit sucks

[queen shadow]

It managed/manages to stay alive as a result of Zeekerss doing plenty of updates and content initially to keep even those folks playing

And the modders ofc

Modders are prolly the key reason that lethal is still popular

[abstract pivot]

i disagree

[rare sun]

I disagree a bit

[queen shadow]

Theres also a large general community that keeps it alive aswell

[rare sun]

Modders take a huge part

[queen shadow]

But mods greatly contribute to said community existing in the first place

[rare sun]

But not the main reason

[queen shadow]

If theres one thing im glad about, its that zeekerss has a good idea of what folks want as updates

looks at phasmo devs' complete and utter inability to do that

[drowsy willow]

phasmophobia, oh dear

[queen shadow]

Seriously i could write a novel about the awful way they're going about updates and their priorities for them

And now they're working on a movie for it

[drowsy willow]

i never got what's so interesting in it

[queen shadow]

when they have still not released the fabled "horror 2.0" update that was supposed to be released like, 3.5 years ago

[rare sun]

I like phasmo but yeah, the lack of updates is ough

[queen shadow]

Its not even the cadence thats the issue

its that they're updating the wrong stuff

Nobody wants map redesigns that get rid of the old maps, even if the old maps are dated

People want new unique maps so the variety doesnt get stale, new horror aspects so its not the same 4 types of events, and actual engaging gameplay

[rare sun]

They uploaded a video like a week ago where they show how they move the horror 2.0 update to "concept phase" 😭

[drowsy willow]

lmaooooooooooooo

[queen shadow]

Its sad, genuinely

[drowsy willow]

i got into phasmo thinking it was a horror game

imagine my disappointment

[queen shadow]

It was scary for a while but it wore off

Especially early on when you didnt know how stuff worked

[rare sun]

Mmm mainly the first to use voice chat in a unique way, and doing a fun and scary coop horror game, there aren't many good coop horror games and even less in that time

[queen shadow]

It definitely pioneered good proximity VC

[rare sun]

It isn't for you????

:0

I CAN'T play alone that game

[queen shadow]

Phasmo is a puzzle game with horror aspects

[rare sun]

I get extremely scared

[queen shadow]

thats the best way i can put it

[drowsy willow]

when i started playing it in 2022-2023 all of the stuff it used were already outdated lmao

soooooo

😦

[drowsy willow]

YES holy fuck

exactly

[queen shadow]

But seriously the devs' priorities are actually messed up.

[rare sun]

Oh well yeah if you played it a year ago for the first time then yeah

[drowsy willow]

priority no.1 : send us your money pretty please

[queen shadow]

and when they do listen and implement something that people asked for, its a bad implementation.

[drowsy willow]

i played it for a year before the levelling update

[queen shadow]

Case in point, the lighthouse map.

[drowsy willow]

like the colored badges and whatever there was

don't remember exactly

[queen shadow]

That people asked for ever since they teased it in like early '21 - and its one of the worst maps to play

because its so vertical, and it takes forever to travel in it

I love having to go to the top of the lighthouse and spend 3 minutes walking down the circular stairs and to the van to grab equipment, only for the ghost to have moved by the time i get back.

And also lost half my sanity

And now they're reworking the farmhouses and putting way too mcuh detail into them that people wont notice

instead of adding smth like small procedural apartment blocks

[drowsy willow]

😔

sounds like pain

[queen shadow]

It is

Its also a grindfest to get to the cool equipment

ever since the level change you mentioned

[drowsy willow]

fuck yes

i remember why i gave up

and when me and my friends found a sneaky way to run custom matches with crazy xp multipliers

they capped that shit instantly

lmaooooooooooo

[thorny salmon]

🙌

[rare sun]

Not even Insym likes the lighthouse

You know its a bad map when your n°1 says its trash xD

[drowsy willow]

lol

[queen shadow]

speaking of him (insym), i swear he spends more time with CJ (lead artist iirc) than CJ spends actually working on the game

Dont get me wrong, insym is a cool guy - i watch him occasionally, and he got me into phasmo in the first place - but i think even he knows the fundamental development skill issue thats plagueing phasmo. I wonder if he ever brought it up privately, I would hope so.

[rare sun]

i think he has somewhat brought that up publicly xd

tho im not sure

but he is very clear on the things he doesn't like ab the game

[rare sun]

yeaaaaah i always thought that

hahaha

[queen shadow]

But on another note

and something i noticed quite early on, being someone that played since late 2020

they became corporate

[rare sun]

😮

[queen shadow]

I remember the good old days of prison beta branch

[rare sun]

you are not the first one to think that haha

[rare sun]

yessssss!!!!!

when did phasmo came out?

[queen shadow]

and them being fairly transparent about development targets n stuff

[rare sun]

i forgor

[queen shadow]

september '20

iirc

i started in december '20

[rare sun]

i also started like the week after release i think

good old days

yes! i bought it this day

[queen shadow]

But yeah like, they lost all of that

No more public testing, everything behind closed doors, apparently some moderately toxic stuff going on internally with preferential treatment of some creators, etc.

[drowsy willow]

😔

[rare sun]

hey mrov, did you vote on Zigzag's poll???

[drowsy willow]

i did

😇

[rare sun]

[dusky mesa]

@drowsy willow Is your new update gonna require other weather mods to update for it? or should it all still work?

[drowsy willow]

it should all work

as far as i know nothing broke

[dusky mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-famous-last-words-gif-4408622650430723477

[drowsy willow]

💀

[slow maple]

ilysm mrovy thanks for the good food

[drowsy willow]

everything for you, monty

[thorny salmon]

na dw i tested my weather with it and it was still working

[stark scaffold]

@drowsy willow

[03:48:49.1944972] [Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
MrovLib.ContentType.BuyableItem.get_PercentOff () (at ./ContentType/BuyableItem.cs:9)
MrovLib.ContentType.BuyableItem.get_Discount () (at ./ContentType/BuyableItem.cs:12)
TerminalFormatter.Nodes.Store.GetNodeText (TerminalNode node, Terminal terminal) (at ./Nodes/Store.cs:65)
TerminalFormatter.TerminalPatches.LoadNewTerminalFormatterNode (Terminal __instance, TerminalNode node) (at ./TerminalPatches/ReplaceText.cs:59)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::LoadNewNode(Terminal,TerminalNode)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::OnSubmit(Terminal)
UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0049) TMPro.TMP_InputField.SendOnEndEdit () (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_000E) TMPro.TMP_InputField.ReleaseSelection () (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_001B) TMPro.TMP_InputField.DeactivateInputField (System.Boolean clearSelection) (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_00B0) TMPro.TMP_InputField.OnUpdateSelected (UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_007C) UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute (UnityEngine.EventSystems.IUpdateSelectedHandler handler, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:IL_0000) UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute[T] (UnityEngine.GameObject target, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData, UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents+EventFunction1[T1] functor) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:IL_0067)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.EventSystem:Update()

typing store does not work

it just wont enter and does that

[rare sun]

Why in WR tho instead of terminal formatter thread hehe

[stark scaffold]

because it mentions mrovlib and I could not find his thread for that

[jade field]

it's not possible to give a vanilla moon a weather it wasn't supposed to have right?
so for example, I shouldn't be able to give March rainy weather since it doesn't have that weather type in vanilla

[rare sun]

Haha it happens sometimes

#1213797469192855553

Here it is!

[queen ingot]

im happy that this one still works through v72

[viral tree]

ahh yes I love flying to [████████] when weather is [████████]

[drowsy willow]

what's your modpack code?

[drowsy willow]

oh my i completely forgot about this mod 😅

happy it works 😇

[queen ingot]

I like it because I use it together with a terminal command t route to random moons but I wanna keep that a optional thing, the terminal command doesn't hide the routed moon on that monitor sadly

[drowsy willow]

yet

god i wanted to do the random-routing mod for ages

someday

[hollow cargo]

I recommend zigzag's randommoonfx mod 😊

[queen ingot]

ExtraTerminalCommands has the command but it just doesn't hide it everywhere

[hollow cargo]

you just have to pull the lever to randomize the moon

[queen ingot]

yes but this is forced every day

i want it to be optional

[hollow cargo]

oww yea

i dont remember if darmuh's random command do the same

[queen ingot]

uuhh ive tried that one like a year ago i cant remember

[drowsy willow]

i might do that next month (probably)

my to-do list is neverending

[hollow cargo]

another "mrov fix this mod" (if ever something happen) lol

🤣

[drowsy willow]

🤭

i am honestly surprised (and slightly worried) that there weren't any reported issues in latest update

it's surreal

as far as my updates go lmao

[hollow cargo]

ye it announces the moon too

[drowsy willow]

😔

[queen ingot]

Morv gotten the upgrade to professional modder

[light furnace]

Whats this mod? Is it a random route mod or..?

[drowsy willow]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/HideCurrentPlanetInfo/

[light furnace]

sickk appreciate it dude! 🤘

[stone gull]

Hey @drowsy willow weather registry force shows the apparatus's value

It does, yet it doesnt have an option to turn the feature off

[drowsy willow]

when scanning (the tooltip), when calculating "total value" with other mods or something else?

i am not changing anything with the apparatus other than spawning value

[stone gull]

Well, i tested it, and it shows the apparatus value when scanned. U can try it out yourself. In vanilla, the value is supposed to appear as ???.

Im assuming that u overiding its base value is messing with it.

[stone gull]

@drowsy willow any way u can maybe fix this? Idk if u can or not.

[drowsy willow]

i do not know if it's really happening - let me test it

i'll see why it happens

[queen ingot]

rich guys apparatice

[queen ingot]

ah yes

[drowsy willow]

oh shit, that's right

i can't publish artifacts, my bad

[queen ingot]

i had the issue too on saturday i just never checked wich mod was causing it

if i can have a working download i can test too

[drowsy willow]

how about this one ?

[queen ingot]

works

[drowsy willow]

amazing

[queen ingot]

works

[drowsy willow]

that's great

i'll try to release that today, tomorrow tops

my nuget and github tokens expired

and i hate re-doing this

[stone gull]

So how did it go?

[stone gull]

Oh. W

Thx for fixing it

[lapis fractal]

I totally forgot to get the log mbmb

but I found this when playing today

Galetry had a weird weather name

[queen shadow]

all my homies love None (WeatherRegistry.Weather)

truly one of the "she weather on my registry till i none mrov" moments of all time

[drowsy willow]

lol

can you send me your modpack code?

[viral tree]

I think I had that too one day

[rare sun]

Same

[queen ingot]

i think its been like that for ages

[rare sun]

Since the beggining of times

[queen ingot]

i think we should blame wesley for making it janky like that

[lapis fractal]

I'm not even joking, I deleted the whole modpack on accident last night. I'm actually super sorry 😭

[hollow yoke]

you dont have it archived anywhere

or at least an old version to rebuild off of

[rare sun]

He nuked it

[stone gull]

Hey, can u fix the termimal formatter bug that makes the cruiser price appear as 0 in the store?

[drowsy willow]

hey, i saw your message

[stone gull]

K. Sry

I wasnt sure if u were active in terminal formatter thread or not

[nimble ruin]

Tested new forecast command on Experimentation and it showed me all of the weathers with their chances but some of the weathers shouldn't be on that moon. Like, Snowfall has Filtering option to true and in the Level list there is no Experimentation but I see it in Forecast experimentation list with 50 (6,05%) chance

[drowsy willow]

i think i know why, but that's interesting

[drowsy willow]

fixed in mrovlib v0.3.1

[stone gull]

W

When u posting the update?

[drowsy willow]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalMrovLib/actions/runs/15591664256

[stone gull]

On thunderstore i mean

[rare sun]

Already posted

[stone gull]

W

[stone gull]

Hey, wb the weather registries apparatus bug fix? When u posting that?

[rare sun]

Weather registry update??? :0

[drowsy willow]

already did 🤭

WeatherRegistry 0.6.1

• fixed an issue with apparatus showing up its correct value

[ember island]

are progressing weathers fixed?

[viral tree]

Are they broken?

[ember island]

they were broken for me the last time i used them

which was 2 months ago

i think the problem occurred when leaving while the first weather was still present, which would then cause said weather to occur everyday

[drowsy willow]

I'm not entirely sure

I think I remember fixing this, but I don't really know

Let me know if you stumble on any issues

[ember island]

i can test it rn

[drowsy willow]

I would be very grateful if you could 🥺

[viral tree]

Morv fixed so many shit he doesn't remember anymore what was brokie

[drowsy willow]

unfortunately

after my 4th rewrite of Tweaks I don't even bother to remember what's where

[viral tree]

Oof

I'm sorry

But if it works, it works and better to not bother unless it breaks lol

[ember island]

bad news

i will retest without imperium

maybe that breaks it idk

[drowsy willow]

I'm not sure I see the problem correctly 😥

the weather didn't repeat into the next day, right?

[ember island]

it was eclipsed the next day

the music played and there is no way there is an insta giant on verdance

[drowsy willow]

oh wait was it?

😳

fuck, I'll test that

What's your modpack code?

[ember island]

uh i have progressing weather disabled rn but i can send you my testpack where i set eclipsed>none to 100

[drowsy willow]

okie

[ember island]

oh and btw i just tested it does not happen when you wait long enough

so you have to leave the moon while it is eclipsed if it turns none it wont be eclipsed the next day

[drowsy willow]

alright, I might know what's broken

I'll try to check that asap

[ember island]

0197644f-5a8b-0dd8-c425-be9a9580d078 this is the code

do note while testing that the ambience does not always change (sky will seem normal)

the music ambience always plays

[drowsy willow]

I'll check what's happening behind the scenes

[stone gull]

W

[queen shadow]

I guess its worth pointing out from testing i did months ago, imperium can have weird side effects if you manually set weather, and it may not show up correctly within imperium's moon-weather list

But basically all of the actual imperium-side issues can be avoided by just not using its weather change feature

[ember island]

i retested without it on a new save and it still happens

but yeah imperium can break a lot

[queen shadow]

It is a debug/inspection tool after all, not something meant to be used in active play

So it behaving weirdly with a lot of mods is to be expected, especially if those mods also change vanilla behaviours that imperium may depend on or use.

[ember island]

i dont think anyone uses it for non debugging

[queen shadow]

I occasionally saw people using it as a "game master/admin" utility toolkit

[ember island]

it can create additional issues when trying to bug fix

[ember island]

there are better mods for that

[queen shadow]

Which still surprised me given it also broke (unsure if it still does) several vanilla behaviours

[ember island]

imperium is really convenient to use

[ember island]

1.0.0 might have fixed a lot

[rare sun]

It also happens with weather probe

[queen shadow]

Thats the main argument ive seen that favours its use

it has so much functionality and a fairly solid system for keeping control to one player

[rare sun]

mrov!!!!! the goat i have a request, there is this mod called CurseOfEmbrion, cool mod hehe, it adds a text in the moon description at the start of a level saying smth about the moon is cursed i cant remember, the thing is that when using weather registry this message cannot be seen, i asked the dev if it could look at it and see if its fixable but idk if he will ever do it, and also idk what mod would be the real culprit, so if you could check that out i would highly appreciate it 😁 , its just a very minuscule thing but sometimes is hard to know if the curse is active or not since that's the only way to know (that and well... using your eyes to see if there are old birds hehe)

[drowsy willow]

I'll see

[rare sun]

Ty!

[bright viper]

Hey mrov could you add a functionality to the registry where it uses the vanilla algorythm to pick which moons get a weather and then uses the weights to pick which weather actually appears? 🥺
Currently if I enable the vanilla algorithm I can't get the combined weathers from tweaks 😔

[drowsy willow]

that's because Tweaks overrides Registry's algorithm

🥲

but I'll think of a way to make that happen

[queen shadow]

mrov try not to be a GOATed modder by being super involved with his playerbase challenge: literally impossible

[viral pollen]

Meow meow!

[queen shadow]

why does the bot read the emoji name- im not even gonna ask

[drowsy willow]

lmao wtf

[proud zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-angry-black-sad-gif-13761237589791439872

[viral tree]

[drowsy willow]

🤭 🤭 🤭

he he he

[hollow yoke]

fire

[ancient depot]

@drowsy willow

Your Cloudy Weather breaks Calist

lmfao

[viral tree]

jojo part 6-ahh skybox

[stone gull]

Hey @drowsy willow

I cant turn off toxoc smog or cloudy weather

I tried settimg their weights to 0 or -1 and they still kept popping up often

[rare sun]

I had that happened once too with tornado i think, idk if the tornado was the culprit but it was weird

[nocturne lily]

try doing something like this

[stone gull]

Thx i will

[leaden flume]

https://tenor.com/view/jolyne-jojo-jojos-bizarre-adventures-jjba-anime-gif-17473898

[drowsy willow]

wtf lol

[abstract pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-made-in-heaven-pucci-stone-ocean-enrico-pucci-gif-27190891

[drowsy willow]

is that Wesley's?

[queen ingot]

well its wesleys moon

i generally think it has like a random speed it spins at tho

[worldly sleet]

intentional, any weather that causes the stormy skybox does this to calist

[tight dock]

I KNEW THE MODING COMMUNITY WAS BIG

BUT NOT THIS BIG

23k messages..

[drowsy willow]

I've just been here for a long time 😅

[queen ingot]

grandpa morv

[abstract pivot]

yeah mrov has so many messages lol

[drowsy willow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eye-twitch-cat-eye-twitch-cat-camera-gif-26361958

[abstract pivot]

damn addict

[ancient depot]

Lol

[drowsy willow]

oh shit

[unique turret]

erm, what the xugma

[drowsy willow]

😳

dear lord

[viral tree]

final boss of j*bless /j

[proud zenith]

damn i know they say "the world revolving" but this is nuts

[scenic zephyr]

is mrovweather blackout just for snowy moons? or can i change the configs without problems?

[drowsy willow]

it should work on every moon 😅

[scenic zephyr]

sorry, it was appearing on snowy moons, but right now it appeared in experimentation.

[dry hedge]

WeatherTweaks FirstDaySpecial is still similar to pre v70 first day weathers. I'd like to see it changes to match v70 where everything's clear, or have a new option for it.

Also right now the first day weathers seem to be random only when FirstDayRandomSeed is disabled lol

[rancid reef]

simulatio

[drowsy willow]

did v70 really change that 💀

[slow maple]

v70 makes you start off clear on everything?

[dry hedge]

correct

[dry hedge]

it sure did 👍

[drowsy willow]

oh no

[slow maple]

I think that's a good change actually, atleast for first time players

[drowsy willow]

I'll see what has changed

[scenic zephyr]

Is there a way to weather registry screen no overrides malfunctions navigation screen?

[drowsy willow]

you can disable Registry's patch completely as a quick fix

I'll investigate what's happening there

[scenic zephyr]

Always happened even before v70

[drowsy willow]

I know

I've had a semi-hack in Tweaks at some point

but it was working only for host

[light furnace]

my fav weather

[drowsy willow]

HOW

WHAT