Weather Registry / Weather Tweaks / mrov

[storm pagoda]

Debug/Message/Info/Trace all exist for dumping information that the end user might not need

[jade needle]

damn we bouta hit 10,000 messages herep

[storm pagoda]

Legitimately, tho, I did a search for warnings from weather registry and I got 352 hits in my log and I felt like maybe 1 or 2 of them was appropriate. Please use Debug, Info or Trace for spam that isn't actually an issue, this makes it harder to figure out what may be a problem for users in help and support because I see WeatherTweaks spitting out warnings so often I just start ignoring all its logs

[storm pagoda]

I beg of you, mrov, https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherRegistry/pull/7

[drowsy willow]

holy shit I've been noticed

but in a bad kind 😭

I'll get it done as soon as I can 🫡

[latent sleet]

I also wanted to ask about this 👀

[drowsy willow]

will fix

[latent sleet]

Ye, no problem, but I assume I need to fix this in my mod as well, cause I was using your template. What's the correct way?

[drowsy willow]

I'll send you the snippet later 🫡

[ebon compass]

Not sure how this is happening, but I'm getting mixed weathers on the nonbeta version of WeatherTweaks

I don't believe it was mentioned in a patch anywhere??? right? It breaks and won't properly load every time I try a double weather moon

[drowsy willow]

😳

there's no way

unless i've uploaded the wrong dll

quick check

[drowsy willow]

i've checked, that's not the case

@ebon compass make sure you don't have both beta and non-beta installed at the same time

i have no idea what else could cause that 😔

[exotic wharf]

Hey I'm getting weather desync between employees with this mod enabled, which I mainly added to prevent that. Is there a possible incompatibility I'm missing? I have logs and modlists from host and clients.

[abstract pivot]

Is it just first day weather desynced?

[exotic wharf]

Possibly, I didn't test that far, but that's mostly because I couldn't get the ship to land either

[abstract pivot]

Ah did u have surfaced downloaded

[exotic wharf]

Nope

This is what I've got

I also have this from the non-host's side when I try to pull the lever

[ebon compass]

Was registry and tweaks, not beta & nonbeta

It stopped after disabling the uncertain/unknown weathers

Desolation ^^^

[ancient depot]

I've never had any problems, but I use Registry and BetaTweaks together, if you use StableTweaks there will be issues cus StableTweaks still also messes with weights

@drowsy willow never fixed it so I recommend removing normal WeatherTweaks and just migrating to BetaWeatherTweaksBeta

[ebon compass]

beta works but stable doesn't? x.x

[ancient depot]

Yeah because Registry and Stable both mess with weights atm, Mrov still needs to update the stable version to not do that

So you'll run into bugs

[ebon compass]

okie

is beta consistent enough to run in a serious pack? It has the lesser fog so I've been wanting to use it since forver but never been fully sure.

[ancient depot]

Yeah it is, the main weather I recommend disabling is None>Stormy I also disabled None>Foggy and Foggy>None personally cus they were too common

None>Stormy just has rapid lightning when Stormy weather kicks in

it's

bad

XD

[ebon compass]

👍

will do

[ancient depot]

Thank god AsyncLoggersFilter dropped, time for me to disable warning logging for WeatherRegistry

[storm pagoda]

waaah

[ancient depot]

Matty was goated for releasing this

LOL

I do hope Mrov fixes that soon though sheeesh

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mattymatty/AsyncLoggers_Filter/ Definitely recommend it, it's essential for adjusting the logging of mods that just flood the logs lol, I disabled SkinnedRendererPatch from debug logging for example cus it just flooded so much

[storm pagoda]

I might add a resource for when to use each log level

[ancient depot]

Yeah that will probably help ^^

[drowsy willow]

oh, THAT 😳

will fix as soon as i can

[drowsy willow]

also PLEASE stop spreading misinformation cause you don't know what you're talking about

Tweaks completely overrides everything Registry does, so it's not "both use the weights"

i have no idea why it was erroring for them, i'll check when i come back to it

[drowsy willow]

If you could send me your modpack code, I'll check what's happening later

[ebon compass]

Already uninstalled it for the beta, but I'll try to recrate it. Shouldn't be too hard I think.

[drowsy willow]

that is concerning

are you using a mod to change possible weathers?

because that only happens when the weather is not defined for a given moon

[ebon compass]

I don't believe so

The mods altering weather are OopsAllFlooded, CodeRebirth, Registry, Arcadia, L-Elements, and Beta/Weather Tweaks

to be fair, if I'm encountering this glitch and literally nobody else has it's probably niche enough to ignore until someone else manages to reproduce it if I can't.

nvm, got it

Desolation again

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[abstract pivot]

OopsAllFlooded does what?

[drowsy willow]

flood inside dungeon

[drowsy willow]

i'll try to test it later this week

[ebon compass]

Flooded applies underwater layer to interiors during flooded weathers with a 5% chance occuring during rainy/stormy weather as well.

It's for people who like suffering ^.^

[drowsy willow]

okay, just so i'm sure what's the issue

when you try to land on uncertain weather it crashes?

[ebon compass]

Every time I tried landing on combined weather planets it wouldn't properly load and I'd get stuck in the ship

but more so than that, I don't think combined weathers should exist in base weather tweaks, right?

[drowsy willow]

combined as in Rainy+Stormy or Rainy/Stormy ?

[drowsy willow]

they don't, yeah

[drowsy willow]

oooooh, alrighty - that's uncertain weather: it's gonna be either one of them

[ebon compass]

x.x I am chronically stupid

[drowsy willow]

Eclipsed OR MeteorShower

[ebon compass]

okay, that makes more sense

[drowsy willow]

hey, it's not your fault

no worries

the thing is: this is purely visual on terminal and ship screen

so i have no idea why it would crash 🤔

[ebon compass]

I always thought uncertain meant X weather had a chance to not be that weather and the terminal was lying

[drowsy willow]

there are 3 types in Tweaks: https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/wiki/UncertainWeathers

i didn't include "wrong weather" type for obvious reasons

but it's easily doable in the future hehe

[exotic wharf]

LGU and CC, but I’m not using CC’s weather settings

[exotic wharf]

Ummmm

Would this be a problem

And this, pretty much anything that affects the seed?

[drowsy willow]

could be

[exotic wharf]

Turning off all other seed-changing configs seems to have fixed it

[drowsy willow]

alrighty 🫡

[exotic wharf]

nvm it did not

nvm nvm its working

I got it to work with the non-beta version

[exotic wharf]

Can confirm that with my current modpack that only normal WT fixed the desync

[drowsy willow]

did the new update break anything with my mod? 😅

[wicked latch]

#help-and-troubleshooting message

Ah, you read it.

[drowsy willow]

i have no idea why

my guess is something else is not working correctly (like Csync throwing a bazillion errors)

[steady marten]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-2580734514060418365

Boo.

[faint sinew]

Mi6kscare

[drowsy willow]

he's back 😳

[limpid vortex]

so should i disable WeatherRegistry for now ?

[lofty silo]

why?

[ancient depot]

Why? WeatherRegistry works just fine

If you use CodeRebirth disable it's weathers in CodeRebirth's config

[limpid vortex]

i was reading this #help-and-troubleshooting message

[ancient depot]

Yeah there's something wrong with their pack, WR is fine

[limpid vortex]

alright thanks

[shadow bough]

hmm

[worldly sleet]

is there any way to completely disable patching the sun animator? i'm seeing the reddish sun on rend instead of the regular blue sun, and everything is alot brighter

[ancient depot]

The sun animator is only patched when paired with WeatherTweaks

At least it should be

If it's still patching it and you're not using WeatherTweaksBeta

[worldly sleet]

i'm using regular weathertweaks

[ancient depot]

Under SunAnimator blacklist

try

All;Company;

It will fill the list with all moons

[ancient depot]

Regular WeatherTweaks has compat issues currently with WeatherRegistry

[worldly sleet]

why does it have compat issues with what it requires???

[ancient depot]

You're better off just not using WeatherTweaks if you don't want the stuff from WeatherTweaksBeta

[ancient depot]

Mrov forgot to remove the weight stuff from it

Lol

before his break

[worldly sleet]

i'll just use weathertweaksbeta and disable things

[ancient depot]

So the weight stuff from StableTweaks and Registry conflict

Yeah you can do that

I feel like WeatherTweaks isn't as essential as it used to be though

You can really go without it nowadays

[worldly sleet]

oh huh, weathertweaks is what's making heatwave not appear

guess i'm not using it

[ancient depot]

Btw if you use ArtificeBlizzard, add Artifice as a blacklist for the sun animator

so the weathers from LethalElements work, I removed Heatwave from Artifice

[drowsy willow]

the what 😳

[ancient depot]

Heatwave effect from the Heatwave weather in LethalElements

[drowsy willow]

also: could you send me your modpack code? I'll try to get back to it when I'm back

[bright viper]

uhhh is this known?

it happens always on game startup

I genuinely don't know if it's weather tweaks, lgu or lethal performance

[wicked latch]

Nice.

Ah.

Because I moved Probe from LGU.

@drowsy willow No hard feelings, lol.

[drowsy willow]

oh no

[drowsy willow]

is it removed or in a different class? 🥺

[wicked latch]

Moved to another mod.

[drowsy willow]

you sneaky sausage

can you send me a link? 🙏

[wicked latch]

Uhh.

There

[drowsy willow]

thank you

[abstract pivot]

You're welcome

[bleak quarry]

not

[kind crane]

I would use that mod if aerona didnt exist

[ancient depot]

Aerona causes performance issues according to PepsiMan and it's not been updated so

I'll stick to ArtificeBlizzard lol

[kind crane]

Causes like on other moons or on itself becsuse It ran fine enough when I tired it

Like it wasnt great but not worse than other moons

[ancient depot]

He said it made his whole game hitch in general

So I'm refusing to touch it

[kind crane]

Ill look into that thank you

Im ok with a somewhat laggy moon but effects the whole game

[drowsy willow]

WeatherTweaksBeta 0.22.0

• removed foggy patch
• removed LGU's probe integration

I'll address those issues properly when I have the time to do so

[drowsy willow]

this should be fixed now

[latent sleet]

Does this mean fog will have the vanilla size all the time now?

[drowsy willow]

yes, weathertweaks no longer modifies the fog whatsoever

[ancient depot]

Wooo no more derpy fog

I'm still waiting for compat with JLL

😦

[drowsy willow]

i'm still working on finishing college

[ancient depot]

Ye Ik

You'll have time on the first

:3

We miss you bud

[drowsy willow]

🥺

[kind crane]

Should I ditch the probe then

Also good luck in collage

Im going back soon too

[dim hawk]

i think progressing weathers doesn't work 💔

[ebon compass]

What was exactly wrong with the fog if you don't mind me asking? The primary reason I used Weather Tweaks was for its foggy patch.

I know Solar Flare, maybe??? seemed a bit foggy when it shouldn't have been? But that's about the extent I found odd

[drowsy willow]

Something is heavily messed up when you're on a moon that does its own foggy patches

Also I've fucked up the patch removal on defined moons (the config entries)

and I'm planning to rework it soon-ish

[ebon compass]

got it 👍

[drowsy willow]

what's your modpack code?

[dim hawk]

oh lemme open thunderstore real quick

019176f1-4d27-fbe9-d38c-587d5da96cd2

there might not be config because i redownloaded it cus' i had to remove it for playtrough with friends today

but before when i tested i turned off in config every multi weather option but i didn't touched weather progression

[drowsy willow]

I'll check what's going on when I have a moment, thanks 😅

[dim hawk]

sure ty!

[drowsy willow]

they don't show up on the first day, ever (if that's your issue) 🥺

[dim hawk]

no no it's just i went on moon that said (NONE > STORMY) and stayed there till auto pilot take off but storm never came

and earlier i went on none > foggy but still no results

[drowsy willow]

hmm

do you have a log from that session (by any chance)?

because the weather change has a % chance to happen

[dim hawk]

i don't think so sorry

[dim hawk]

ooooh

i didn't know

[drowsy willow]

I'm not trying to push this into "oh, it's bad RNG" because something might genuinely be broken

[dim hawk]

no no it could've be bad rng since i only tried it twice

[drowsy willow]

but yeah, the mid-day switch is a random roll

[dim hawk]

I'll try again on my next playtrough with friends

[drowsy willow]

alrighty, if it happens again let me know (and send your log) 😅😇

[kind crane]

upon further testing yes my performanc improved upon its removal

thank you for the heads up

[exotic wharf]

Is there a problem with setting the weights by moons rn? I gave experimentation 500 for none and flooded and it seems to have completely ignored that:

[drowsy willow]

have you set it in WeatherTweaks or WeatherRegistry?

cause those logs are from Tweaks

[exotic wharf]

WR, but shouldn't it be using my weights from WR?

I just use WT for syncing

[drowsy willow]

WR syncs weathers itself

and becuase i've been ~~lazy ~~ busy the weight stuff is all over the place

beta uses Registry settings, but normal Tweaks uses its own

the mess is so bad that i'll spend some time cleaning it 😅

i'm sincerely sorry for the confusion

[exotic wharf]

No its all good, just maybe add this one to the readme

[drowsy willow]

oh it's not there

my bad

[exotic wharf]

👍 BetaWT seems to be working with WR correctly

[drowsy willow]

😇

[thorny parrot]

A suggestion I had for BetaWT, maybe a configuration for when the secondary weather will occur? Like specific times, I've only waited it out once to see what happened so it may be random already but I don't know for certain.
As well as an option to disable the weather notification popup so you don't know whats happening until you come outside

Just my two cents

[drowsy willow]

honestly, it's a cool idea

As well as an option to disable the weather notification popup so you don't know whats happening until you come outside

i've said like 50 years ago i'm gonna do it and consistently forgot to do it 😳

but i will

[thorny parrot]

Sure sureeee

Another idea I had for stormy weather, an option for cooldowns between ambient lightning strikes (ones that aren't targeting your 3 keys you are holding)

[drowsy willow]

as for the progressing weathers: my idea was for them to be predefined: which weathers will turn into which, when, what's the chance and everything else

[hallow mesa]

@drowsy willow hey I found an issue with WeatherRegistry where it conflicts with Lethal Quantities in terms of scrap value multipliers.
If LQ has a scrap value multiplier of something custom that isn't 0.4, simply having WeatherRegistry enabled will override that and force it back down to the vanilla 0.4 value

[drowsy willow]

which works, but lacks the unpredictability and being interesting after some time

[hallow mesa]

even if the scrap value multiplier for a specific weather is literally just 1.0 (such as for None weather) it doesn't matter, it still somehow overwrites Lethal Quantities scrap value multiplier and forces it back to the vanilla 0.4 value

[thorny parrot]

Progressive weathers are the

Weather1>Weather2

Right?

[drowsy willow]

well, it's intentional

not like i specifically made it to override LQ, but i've made Registry to only use its own multipliers

which is something i'm planning to include compatibilities for

sorry for that

[drowsy willow]

yeah

[hallow mesa]

well ideally, you'd want WeatherRegistry to only be making its scrap value changes last, so that any other scrap value changes being done first through something like LQ are considered first and then WR multiplier is slapped on top of that number

[drowsy willow]

well, yes and no

i'm running my patch as the last one, but - because my intention was to integrate things that MeteoMultiplier did - there was an issue when you had the two installed at the same time

[thorny parrot]

Level Weights is chances for each specific moon

Whereas weather weights are for progressive weathers?
Confused on what Weather Weights do when there is a default weight already, or is it chances on it turning into something else upon a new day

[drowsy willow]

the values would skyrocket pretty fast

so i've made a decision to replace the values, not to multiply them

[drowsy willow]

weather weights are used when the weather on the previous day was the defined one

so if you put Foggy@200 in Rainy config: Rainy weather will have 200 weight if the previous weather was Foggy

it has no connection to progressing ones

[thorny parrot]

So if you just got off an eclipsed planet for example
this is what the next weathers could be?

[drowsy willow]

which weathers could be is defined by a moon creator

[thorny parrot]

Until I change them

[drowsy willow]

and - because i've made the configs wrong way around - you're defining the weather weight based on the previous weather

[drowsy willow]

i mean

🤷

i've tried fighting this, but it's pointless 😅

[thorny parrot]

Right so when you get off of a moon with eclipsed, assuming all the weathers are on the table and possible it 100% has to be one of the defined ones?

)For example.

Previous Weather: Foggy

Foggy Weather weights: Eclipsed@10, Rainy@10

There is a 50/50 between those two weathers and no others are possible?

[drowsy willow]

no

[thorny parrot]

Change is inevitable, DustStorms WILL happen on rend

[drowsy willow]

setting the weights does not modify possible weathers

i've made my own system the wrong way around

and now i suffer the consequences

in your example: if you want to set Eclipsed and Rainy weights to 10 ***after *** Foggy happens, you have to put Foggy@10; in Eclipsed and Rainy configs

that's how bad i made this

[exotic wharf]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

[drowsy willow]

the fucking cherry on top: i thought about my own config system wrong with the provided defaults

and - i suspect - that's why they are so shit

i'm so so sorry 😦

[thorny parrot]

Okay so

)For example.

Previous Weather: SolarFlare

Rainy: SolarFlare@10

Eclipsed: SolarFlare@10

That makes rainy and eclipsed have a 50/50 after Solarflare?

[drowsy willow]

That makes Rainy and Eclipsed use 10 weight after Solarflare

but if the moon can have a different weather, it's gonna use other provided weights (as per https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1203871322841808906/1268132320855068752/image.png?ex=66c850c2&is=66c6ff42&hm=32736d5d4046785de970fe66225a417be2d35638b0354bad88004a22be3d849e&)

so if a moon can have Rainy, Eclipsed and Solarflare the weights would be:

• Rainy: 10
• Eclipsed: 10
• Solarflare: default weight (100)

of course: more weathers = more weights in the pool

[thorny parrot]

So you mean to modify all weathers how I want them, I have to go to EVERY weather and modify their weights or else defaults will take over unspecified weights?

[drowsy willow]

🥺

that was the idea behind it: every weather has a base weight which you can augment based on previous weathers or specific levels

[thorny parrot]

)E.g
Assume all unspecified has weight of 100

Moon: Vow
Possible Weathers: Rainy, Stormy
Previous Weather: Rainy

Stormy: Rainy@300

There is a 1:3 odds for it to become stormy instead of stay rainy? as the default 100 from stormy is technically there?

[drowsy willow]

yes

[thorny parrot]

God help my soul

and if I chanmge the default weight of stormy to 300 its a 50/50?

[drowsy willow]

i think that the way you want to have it could be achieved by setting every default to 0 and only using weather-weather weights

cause the weathers with 0 won't be used

but if the whole pool will be 0 it's gonna throw up

[drowsy willow]

yes

[exotic wharf]

Can confirm

Liquidation momen

[drowsy willow]

if there's only one possible weather and the sum is 0, it's gonna pick that one

if there's more, no.

[drowsy willow]

oopsie 😳

[thorny parrot]

okay so make all defaults 0 and then modify all weather-->weather (especially none-->weather)

simplify it?

or can I make none have a default of 100 and base everything off of that to get around the pool=0 sickness

like

Default none 100

stormy: none@100

none: stormy@100

[drowsy willow]

i think so? i'm not exactly sure 😅

when the weathers are picked the picking process is printed in the logs

the weights and where they come from

so you'll be able to debug what's going on

[thorny parrot]

You think I know what console means??? I have tested and fiddled with so many settings and menus and If I see another one I may just atomize it

Thanks, I'll meddle with it

[exotic wharf]

| Gordion | []
If I could just-
| Gordion | ["Rainy"]

So wait what does happen if I use CC to modify the possible weathers while using WR?

[drowsy willow]

i have absolutely no idea

[exotic wharf]

👀

brb

[drowsy willow]

what i mean is: from WR's viewpoint it's not possible

i have honestly no idea

i mean - it's not possible yet

but i don't have the time to work on it 😭

[exotic wharf]

I'm guessing it probably won't explode, but it might break something else

[thorny parrot]

Does WT override its base mods config?

[drowsy willow]

normal weathertweaks yes, beta no

[thorny parrot]

whoops, meant WeatherRegistry

[exotic wharf]

How do the combined mechanics work when it comes to scrap multipliers? Also what is madness?

[exotic wharf]

I think I heard someone say that WR just takes in the custom weather mod's configs as defaults, so yes?

[thorny parrot]

@mrov

If you get a moment, could you let me know if this looks alright?

Every Default is 10 Except for none which is 100

`None: Meteor Shower@100;@Eclipsed@100;Flooded@100;Heatwave@100;Stormy@100

Cloudy: Rainy@100;Stormy@100;Foggy@100;Eclipsed@100;Flooded@100;Solar Flare@50

Rainy: - Stormy@150;Cloudy@100;Foggy@100;Eclipsed@100

Foggy: - Cloudy@200;Rainy@150;Stormy@100;Eclipsed@50;Solar Flare@50

Solar Flare: - None@150;Heatwave@100;Cloudy@50;Foggy@50

Stormy: - Rainy@100;Cloudy@100;None@50;Foggy@50;Flooded@50

Heatwave: - Solar Flare@200;Cloudy@100;Eclipsed@100;Meteor Shower@150;None@1

Flooded: - Cloudy@200;Rainy@200;Stormy@250;Eclipsed@100;Flooded@50;None@1

Eclipsed: - Cloudy@50;Rainy@50;Foggy@50;Solar Flare@300;Stormy@150;Heatwave@200;None@1

Meteor Shower: - Heatwave@300;Eclipsed@300;Solar Flare@300;Cloudy@50;Rainy@50;Foggy@50;None@1`

[drowsy willow]

Yes, everything a mod sets as default is the config default, but WR config always takes precedence

[drowsy willow]

Looks alright

[thorny parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-metal-gear-rising-sam-dlc-brazil-gif-25972178

[lofty silo]

Howdy! I did a lil search and I dont think it was confirmed so I'll double check; with the current update to BWT, does whitespikes weather probe not work with it?

[gray kayak]

It should I think

It just doesn't change the main monitor's text visually

Don't take my word

[lofty silo]

Taking it as gospel my friend

[sullen patio]

any way to fix the random weather being spoiled by general improvements?

[worldly sleet]

you'd probably just have to remove the weather monitor or ask the dev of general improvements to add compatiblity

[sullen patio]

i mean there's compatibility in the beta version of weather tweaks but i was wondering if there was an option to turn it on i was missing in the current version

but im just gonna add the beta of weathertweaks to my pack as long as it plays nice with the other mods

[drowsy willow]

yes, it doesn't

[bleak quarry]

can anyone give me help with the last 3 options for configging weather, im confused

[exotic wharf]

Filter blocks the weather from appearing on entered moons, level weights are the chances of that weather being picked on that moon, and the weather weights are the chances of the weather being picked after that weather was the previous one

[unique wraith]

Actually the weather to weather weights are weird. Using Flooded as an example, Flooded would have a 160 weight AFTER None. Mrov messed up his config and didn't know it for a bit😂

[exotic wharf]

I thought that was what I said

[bleak quarry]

oh ok so if i did Experimentation@50; only on flooded config, only flooded would appear for exp and no other moons?

[unique wraith]

I thought you were saying None would have a weight of 160 after flooded, which is how most assume it would work

[exotic wharf]

Assuming the rest of the defaults are 0, ye

[unique wraith]

No it would have a weight of 50 on experimentation

[bleak quarry]

alr i get it now, ty for help guys :)

[unique wraith]

If you have more questions just ask here. Plenty of people will help out

[kind crane]

seems that combo weathers are not displaying on the moons screen'

this also could be a terminal formatter issue

[vocal dune]

how ya got all those screens ?

[kind crane]

Anyone else no see combo/uncertain weathers not show up on the moons screen?

they exist but arent displayed

[drowsy willow]

oh no

[drowsy willow]

what's your modpack code? i'll try to debug this when i get the chance

[kind crane]

lemme test if it happens on a fresh profile

if it does than its on my end

[kind crane]

ok looks like its on my end. on a test profile with little on it nothing happens

ill test for conflicts tommorow then report back

[drowsy willow]

alrighty, thanks for taking the time 🫡 🥺

[pine thunder]

Any idea why WeatherRegistry would be completely ignoring custom weather weights for USC Vortex? Been trying to customize Eclipsed and Solar Flare and it just won't, I've tried USC Vortex@9999;, USCVortex@9999;, USC@9999;, and it's just always None despite having Solar Flare and Eclipsed at 9999

Also tried 069 USC Vortex@9999;

[haughty ingot]

Underscore?

[haughty ingot]

USC_Vortex might do the trick (?)

[pine thunder]

I can try

It shows up in WeatherRegistry's Planet List as USC Vortex so

[pine thunder]

Yeah no dice

[drowsy willow]

That's interesting, I'll check what's happening

fuck, i've disabled those logs 😥

[ancient depot]

WeatherRegistry is fighting the system

😂

[drowsy willow]

alright, i've set Eclipsed to have level weight: USCVortex@10000; and it's working correctly:

oh wait a moment

it's 100% Registry's fault, but why?

oh no

oh no

[drowsy willow]

nevermind, it's not my issue

@pine thunder

WeatherRegistry 0.1.22

• changed how override weathers are logged

[pine thunder]

Am confuse

[drowsy willow]

you have a weather override enabled

on your level

[pine thunder]

??? But I don't, I can double check but it rolls Eclipsed pretty regularly in vanilla

Okay wtf, yeah, you're right, that doesn't make any sense cuz it worked fine without WeatherRegistry when I was testing in development x_x Whatever, I'll post a hotfix

[drowsy willow]

that's interesting, maybe i'm doing something differently than vanilla? 🤔

[wicked latch]

I do remember weathers changing whenever I booted the save.

[drowsy willow]

i know about that 😧

me

vs vanilla

it's the same

if(overrideWeather){
weather = overrideWeatherType;
}

[pine thunder]

Sounds like vanilla is just buggy as usual ig

Aggravating

Either way fixed, ty

[drowsy willow]

no worries 😅

[hallow mesa]

btw @drowsy willow I think the values I've settled on feel pretty vanilla, though also blended with common sense weather progression (rainy is likely to turn to stormy/flooded), did you still want those numbers for new config defaults?

[thick acorn]

i would like those numbers personally

[drowsy willow]

yes please 🙏

[hallow mesa]

Eclipsed:
default weight - 15
WtW weights - None@20;Rainy@20;Stormy@30;Flooded@20;Foggy@20;Eclipsed@10;Windy@10;Meteor Shower@10

Flooded:
default weight - 60
WtW weights - None@20;Rainy@70;Stormy@90;Flooded@10;Foggy@30;Eclipsed@20;Windy@50;Meteor Shower@20

Foggy:
default weight - 80
WtW weights - None@60;Rainy@50;Stormy@30;Flooded@30;Foggy@10;Eclipsed@15;Windy@20;Meteor Shower@15

Meteor Shower:
default weight - 10
WtW weights -
None@8;Rainy@8;Stormy@8;Flooded@8;Foggy@8;Eclipsed@8;Windy@8;Meteor Shower@5

None:
default weight - 250
WtW weights - None@160;Rainy@100;Stormy@120;Flooded@120;Foggy@100;Eclipsed@200;Windy@160;Meteor Shower@200

Rainy:
default weight - 80
WtW weights - None@70;Rainy@20;Stormy@40;Flooded@40;Foggy@30;Eclipsed@20;Windy@40;Meteor Shower@20

Stormy:
default weight - 50
WtW weights - None@40;Rainy@80;Stormy@10;Flooded@60;Foggy@30;Eclipsed@20;Windy@60;Meteor Shower@15

Windy:
default weight - 30
WtW weights - None@40;Rainy@60;Stormy@80;Flooded@40;Foggy@30;Eclipsed@10;Windy@20;Meteor Shower@10

I can't prove it though, but I swear there's something fucky-wucky going on with the math somehow because I get 2 of the same weather more often than it feels like the math should allow, including Eclipsed, and 2 eclipsed in a row according to this math should be stupid-rare, yet I've come across it like 6 times in a row in the past 10 play sessions

[unique wraith]

I cannot wait for you to switch the config back to how we all thought it worked😂😂

[drowsy willow]

i'm sure i fucked up something easy in my code

i'll definitely get a closer look what's going on

[obsidian schooner]

what's wtw?

[bleak quarry]

weather to weather

[obsidian schooner]

thx!

[worldly sleet]

this feels like a bit of an excessive amount of weather

[latent sleet]

Did you increase the weights of the clear weather? I believe by default everything has 100 weight so it gets diluted with additional effects

[worldly sleet]

i haven't configured registry at all, i will probably go do that

[hallow mesa]

@drowsy willow I just got really weird behavior where resetting the lobby 4 times in a row picked Rainy weather, and only went to None on the 5th reset, but the default weights result in that being astonishingly unlikely to happen, and my overall fps for some reason dragged way down in the process, even while in orbit and not landed on any moon it was laggy as hell and I had to restart the whole game to clear it up.
Not sure if WeatherRegistry would be responsible for that second part, but I am now virtually positive there's some sort of hidden snake in the garden of WeatherRegistry math

[drowsy willow]

hmm, that's really interesting

could you check what's getting picked in your logs?

enable debug logs in BepInEx.cfg

and debugging logs in Registry:

it should print you something like this

[sly zephyr]

hey here, i know i can find some answer above, but i can still ask for it. I asked about people opinion on weather difficulty ranking and bonus point for settings [here](#modding-general message) in #modding-general

[kind crane]

I FOUND IT

I found the conflict

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/explodingMods/LethalMoonUnlocks/

blocks weather tweaks beta's weather effects from being listed on the moons screen

[hallow mesa]

not for me it doesn't, check what tags in that mod's conflict are allowed to be displayed next to a moon

[kind crane]

Strange cause when I turn it off it fixes it, keep in mind im only talking combo weather etc. Regular weathers are fine

[hallow mesa]

combo weather?

what are you talking about? there can only be one weather at a time

[kind crane]

Betaweathertweaks ads combo weather, uncertain weather and proggressive weathers

Thats my issue

With unlocks they areny displayed on the moon menu

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/BetaWeatherTweaksBeta/

[wraith gorge]

Idk why but Acidir moon from wesley's moons is always eclipsed with WR installed

[faint sinew]

Yeah
I uh
Left the weather override enabled.. on eclipsed

[wispy swallow]

so that's why I never land on acidir...

[azure dirge]

Eclipsed Acidir is what trained me to tolerate Eclipsed betterer

[drowsy willow]

oopsie 🥺

[drowsy willow]

that's really interesting, thanks for the find!

[kind crane]

small update, it doesnt happen when its just those 2 but on my main pack if I disable that mod it fixes it

so maybe a 3 way conflict or some shit

[obsidian schooner]

those are a PAIN

[drowsy willow]

god damn

[obsidian schooner]

something together is breaking BetterEXP's mod on my modpack, because I've tried every branch of my modpack (~50 each) and none of them have broken it on their own

[drowsy willow]

3-way conflicts are SO PAINFUL

[abstract pivot]

Threesome conflicts??? Holy

[drowsy willow]

😏

when all 4 relations break simultaneously

[abstract pivot]

Devious

[queen crystal]

I feel like I just walked in on something I shouldn't have....

[drowsy willow]

🤭

[obsidian schooner]

hey, guess what's tomorrow

[azure dirge]

Saturday?

[obsidian schooner]

1/09 :]

[ancient depot]

Tomorrow is 8/31 for me

[obsidian schooner]

oh, ye

[drowsy willow]

thanks, forgot to update my ETA

🤭

[obsidian schooner]

no issues :]

[ancient depot]

You're not returning on the 1st? 😦

[drowsy willow]

well

stuff happened

[abstract pivot]

He got too freaky with his wife and now have to raise the child

[drowsy willow]

and turns out it's more time consuming than i've expected 😅

[abstract pivot]

He'll be done when the child's 18

[drowsy willow]

so, umm

i have to finish my bachelor's and then i'll have all the time in the world 🥺

[ancient depot]

That is oddly specific but is Mrov even married?

lol

[drowsy willow]

lmao

[abstract pivot]

Ye

Mrov is like 25, he's been married for 3 years lol

[drowsy willow]

i earn the minimum wage, child support is 0 for me

ballin'

[abstract pivot]

You'd need to be divorced for that one buddy

[ancient depot]

We're gonna be 26 this year and we're not married, age doesn't mean anything XD

[abstract pivot]

DAYM

[drowsy willow]

the marriage was annulled, so we're gucci

[abstract pivot]

Cough

Sorry

[abstract pivot]

Lucky

[ancient depot]

Yeah I say that cus that's how old the body will be lol, our alter ages all differ

[drowsy willow]

i am not married

never was

and help me god never will 🤭

[abstract pivot]

Isn't there that baddie on twitter always talking about you

[drowsy willow]

can you not do that

[hallow mesa]

@drowsy willow Just got Rainy 3 times in a row, which is weird math, here's the log I actually remembered to get this time in case it looks weird to you

[drowsy willow]

[02:12:07.4743551] [Message:WeatherRegistry] 46 Infernis
[02:12:07.4743551] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] previousDayWeather: None
[02:12:07.4743551] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Possible weathers: None; Foggy; Eclipsed; Rainy; Meteor Shower
[02:12:07.4743551] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] None has weather>weather weight 160
[02:12:07.4743551] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Foggy has weather>weather weight 60
[02:12:07.4743551] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Eclipsed has weather>weather weight 20
[02:12:07.4743551] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Rainy has weather>weather weight 70
[02:12:07.4743551] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Meteor Shower has weather>weather weight 8
[02:12:07.4743551] [Warning:   MrovLib] Picked Rainy (WeatherRegistry.Weather) with a roll of 179 out of 318
[02:12:07.4743551] [Message:WeatherRegistry] Selected weather: Rainy
[02:12:07.4743551] [Message:WeatherRegistry] Chance for that was 70 / 318 (22.01258%)

[02:24:23.1365354] [Message:WeatherRegistry] 46 Infernis
[02:24:23.1365354] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] previousDayWeather: Rainy
[02:24:23.1365354] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Possible weathers: None; Foggy; Eclipsed; Rainy; Meteor Shower
[02:24:23.1365354] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] None has weather>weather weight 100
[02:24:23.1365354] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Foggy has weather>weather weight 50
[02:24:23.1365354] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Eclipsed has weather>weather weight 20
[02:24:23.1365354] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Rainy has weather>weather weight 20
[02:24:23.1365354] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Meteor Shower has weather>weather weight 8
[02:24:23.1365354] [Warning:   MrovLib] Picked Rainy (WeatherRegistry.Weather) with a roll of 173 out of 198
[02:24:23.1365354] [Message:WeatherRegistry] Selected weather: Rainy
[02:24:23.1365354] [Message:WeatherRegistry] Chance for that was 20 / 198 (10.10101%)

[02:24:50.6509230] [Message:WeatherRegistry] 46 Infernis
[02:24:50.6509230] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] previousDayWeather: Rainy
[02:24:50.6509230] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Possible weathers: None; Foggy; Eclipsed; Rainy; Meteor Shower
[02:24:50.6509230] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] None has default weight 250
[02:24:50.6509230] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Foggy has default weight 80
[02:24:50.6509230] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Eclipsed has default weight 15
[02:24:50.6509230] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Rainy has default weight 80
[02:24:50.6509230] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Meteor Shower has default weight 10
[02:24:50.6509230] [Warning:   MrovLib] Picked Rainy (WeatherRegistry.Weather) with a roll of 331 out of 435
[02:24:50.6509230] [Message:WeatherRegistry] Selected weather: Rainy
[02:24:50.6509230] [Message:WeatherRegistry] Chance for that was 80 / 435 (18.3908%)

[02:37:41.4408885] [Message:WeatherRegistry] 46 Infernis
[02:37:41.4408885] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] previousDayWeather: Rainy
[02:37:41.4408885] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Possible weathers: None; Foggy; Eclipsed; Rainy; Meteor Shower
[02:37:41.4408885] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] None has weather>weather weight 100
[02:37:41.4408885] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Foggy has weather>weather weight 50
[02:37:41.4408885] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Eclipsed has weather>weather weight 20
[02:37:41.4408885] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Rainy has weather>weather weight 20
[02:37:41.4408885] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Meteor Shower has weather>weather weight 8
[02:37:41.4408885] [Warning:   MrovLib] Picked Eclipsed (WeatherRegistry.Weather) with a roll of 162 out of 198
[02:37:41.4408885] [Message:WeatherRegistry] Selected weather: Eclipsed
[02:37:41.4408885] [Message:WeatherRegistry] Chance for that was 20 / 198 (10.10101%)

this does look like a bad RNG

[ancient depot]

Gone till done just sounds so weird everytime I look at it XD

[drowsy willow]

oh wait, i see it

Rainy is the previous weather in both cases

why is it using defaults that one time?

oooh, it's after lobby load

[frigid trench]

I'm not sure how this happens. I'm reading the currentWeather from SelectableLevel when LLL loads the moons node (and fires the event I'm subscribed to), but I could mask the issue on my side by getting the weather name directly from you.
You have a public CurrentWeathers dict in your Variables class but the class is internal. Can't access it.
Nvm just found that dict doesn't give me the uncertain weathers.

I have a version working in the profile @kind crane sent me using some dodgy reflection and a simple postfix to your GetPlanetCurrentWeather to grab the proper names. If you don't wanna touch any of that I can release it like that but I'm not 100% sure if that solves it for every use case. Are there people using WR without any WT where it would still change the display name..?

[drowsy willow]

honestly i don't know either

i haven't worked on that in almost a month, so i'm not entirely sure what could be the issue

when i'm back to it I'll surely get in touch with you to fix the underlying issues

[drowsy willow]

6️⃣

[drowsy willow]

WeatherRegistry 0.1.23

• fixed an issue with 6 weather on Experimentation (thanks: @latent sleet , @dreamy oracle !)

[abstract pivot]

yw

[drowsy willow]

bepinex's nuget died, i'll push the update when it's back 😳

[drowsy willow]

update is live

[slow maple]

rip 6 😔

[bleak quarry]

6

[dreamy oracle]

six

very hated number in the weather community

[ancient depot]

@drowsy willow How did you break the new weather event with your WeatherRegistry update?

lol

[dreamy oracle]

It's not actually a weather, it's just that zeekerss probably intended it to be a weather first, and never got rid of the added weather "6" on experimentation which doesn't have a proper enum value like the other weather's

[ancient depot]

@drowsy willow The 6 weather got fixed

In the new V64 update

[bleak quarry]

man i miss 6

was a good weather

[kind crane]

7 was better

too bad it 8 9

was excited for that one

[bleak quarry]

crazy

[quartz willow]

Do some moons have a hard no-allow list for certain weathers? Only level it’s filtering by default is gordion but does that mean Titan could get flooded now?

[quartz willow]

I’d really like to get March where it’s often raining like the description says

[thick acorn]

every moon has a list of selectable random weathers. WeatherRegistry can't add them, only remove them

[quartz willow]

I’ll leave that alone then

[thick acorn]

this is easily doable

[quartz willow]

I wish I could do weight’s on a moon by moon basis but Ik that would be a pain to code and no one would use it

[thick acorn]

that's already a feature

but you just can't use it to add weathers to a moon

since march already rains what you're asking is possible

[quartz willow]

It does?

I thought March couldn’t ge the rainy weather conditions

Condition* singular

[thick acorn]

i'm fairly certain it does, unless im mistaken

oh i guess i was confusing it with stormy

[quartz willow]

By weights on a moon by moon basis I mean configure the weather to weather weights separately for each moon

That’s doable? Really?

I didn’t see a config file for each moon separately

[thick acorn]

i dont think weather to weather per moon exists, it's just weather to weather or per moon

[quartz willow]

I thought so

Making weather patterns for individual moons would add to immersion greatly but I don’t think it’s a highly requested feature

[drowsy willow]

it's something i'm planning, but it's not a priority right now 😅

[ebon compass]

This should mean those moons DON'T get that weather, right?

[gray kayak]

yes

[ebon compass]

.> I'm getting weathers on moons they shouldn't be on then... like ALOT

to the point I feel like I did something wrong

[drowsy willow]

hmm

that should work

what's your modpack code?

[ebon compass]

I'm going to rewrite it for a whitelist, this is my code (0191ce4b-bb9f-d875-7d9c-b79f5f51aa80) but it's a 200 pack so dunno who can run it and who can't

[drowsy willow]

importing, will check

hmm

everything is parsed correctly

and the weather is not on any moons that are defined:

interesting

[ebon compass]

I've gotten heatwaves on polarus, triskelion, and dine off the top of my head

Although there are other weather issues, but they're just the ones I can remember most clearly

[drowsy willow]

it's supposed to be false 😅

[ebon compass]

-.-

I didn't touch it, aaaaaaaagh. Okay let's see if I find anything else odd

[gray kayak]

yeah because the default is true

[drowsy willow]

🥲

[ebon compass]

^^ I feel like I saw other weathers in places they shouldn't be, but I might've just been delusional.

Lethal Quantities, Skin Registry, Weather Registry, and LLL are breaking me

[drowsy willow]

🥺

[ebon compass]

self inflicted, you're fine

I'm trying to basically remake the entire game from scrap tables and weathers to enemy spawns and combat. To do that I basically need to configure virtually every variable under the sun and it's taken months. I'm grateful for the opportunity.

My sanity on the other hand has a few words

I'm properly delusional 👍 I just glanced over heatwave being default true x.x for some reason

The fact I rechecked that 6 times and still didn't see it is concerning

[drowsy willow]

😧

yeah, no wonder 😭

[drowsy willow]

don't worry, i haven't made it clear enough

option that only maps true and false instead of replacing them is bound to cause issues like this 😅

[ebon compass]

I think it's fine honestly, atleast for me. I could recognize what it meant, but the amount of times I'm glancing over minute issues like this is growing increasingly common.

[paper lake]

I've been testing some mods and added this one in. Everything working fine. But I noticed something on a stormy moon. I wanted to test the lightning zapping loot effect, but it never happened

I have some modded scrap and vanilla scrap on the ground, and vanilla scrap in my hand

Does this mod affect the chances of lightning striking scrap? It was striking randomly around the map, but never me or my loot

[ancient depot]

No

It's a vanilla bug right now in V64

[paper lake]

gotcha, thanks for letting me know. I imagine this is a bug across all scrap/moons, then?

[ancient depot]

The new update for ButteryFixes patches it

[royal gyro]

just landed on march and had both the terminal and GI say it was clear but when landed it was rainy, not sure if its related to weather tweaks but its the only thing I could think of rn, looked through the logs and I can't find any errors either 😭

anyone else having this or maybe its just a one off

[thick acorn]

do you have this mod?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ButteryStancakes/Chameleon/

[bleak quarry]

@royal gyro ^

[royal gyro]

ohhhhhh

didn't even notice that in the changelog LOL

oops 😭

[bleak quarry]

XD

[signal cedar]

hey, love this mod, I can finally customize what weather should be in a moon.
I have a question though, is the company building is able to have a weather? I tried using the mod to add the weather but the company building is always clear

it's not really about your mod, it's the company building itself

[quartz willow]

Woah what is this

[drowsy willow]

If you specifically define modded weather to be on Gordion, it can be added

In case of vanilla weathers, no

[signal cedar]

okay good to know, thanks

Latom

[worldly sleet]

i wonder what an eclipsed gordion would imply

[signal cedar]

That means it's gonna have a lot of monsters, that's the concept I want to go to but don't know if enemy can spawn and weather can occur

[worldly sleet]

no enemies can spawn on gordion, it doesn't have any spawns and doesn't even have a navmesh

[signal cedar]

Right, that's why it's just a concept. That means I can't do any goofy shit in company building😭

Good to know tho

[thick acorn]

there's a mod to add a navmesh to the company and you can add enemies in LLL, but it doesn't have time so no spawns

[stable echo]

I think this is the only weather mod I have installed, is there a reason that the console doesn't show the weather even though the moon has weather?

Ah, changing this to false fixed it, not sure what the issue was

[thick acorn]

preview weather, or preview all

[gritty blade]

Mmh isn't fog suposed to be less dense on the Beta branch, we've had some seriously hardcore fog where we couldn't even see at our feet, not sure if it's intended?

Also noticed that weather transitions from Fog, like Foggy > None, Foggy > Rain etc, were giving us some really dense fog

[kind crane]

that was removed afaik

[gritty blade]

thx for letting me know if it is the case

[mystic oxide]

Is there a reason of why modded weather are always more frequent than vanilla?

Here I had all modded weathers with a weight of 70 and still got no vanilla weathers

I actually rarely get more than one vanilla weather at the same time

[worldly sleet]

weather registry sets the default weights of all modded weathers to like 100

[mystic oxide]

Yeah and I put them at 70

in Registry

[worldly sleet]

that's still a decent bit

[mystic oxide]

I'll try at 50 ig

[drowsy willow]

yeah, it's temporarily removed until i can fix the bugs

[drowsy willow]

hmm

check the logs for which weathers were picked

[mystic oxide]

this?

[drowsy willow]

it should be something like this

[mystic oxide]

I love it when Discord doesn't want to send me to the replied message

[drowsy willow]

#1203871322841808906 message

[mystic oxide]

Is that supposed to appear when loading into a save?

[00:50:29.6620908] [Warning:WeatherRegistry] Weather selection is disabled.

Is this normal?

[drowsy willow]

you should have this enabled

[drowsy willow]

oh wait

are you using weathertweaks?

[mystic oxide]

Yes

[drowsy willow]

🤔

[mystic oxide]

Not the beta one tho

[drowsy willow]

oh

[mystic oxide]

Should I be using the beta one instead?

[drowsy willow]

i honestly can't remember right now

but i think that the normal Tweaks uses its own weights instead of Registry ones

[mystic oxide]

I'll try the beta one

[mystic oxide]

Well I have a good news and a bad news

good news is, the weather selection is working correctly with the beta one

the bad news is

7

[lofty silo]

the sequel to 6..... its finally real

[mystic oxide]

OH GOD

[lofty silo]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-statler-waldorf-score-gif-9767857388509302982

[drowsy willow]

😳

oh no

[mystic oxide]

It even made config entries for them

I think I figured it out

[drowsy willow]

oh my fucking god

[mystic oxide]

Using the lobby clear command from LobbyControl causes this

[drowsy willow]

ooooooooooooh

alright

thanks for figuring that out, i'll try to have it fixed

[azure dirge]

that 9 tho

[mystic oxide]

I don't know what happened but a new weather just appeared in my game?

"Cloudy"

Never seen that before and it just got added to the config too

[azure dirge]

part of beta registry iirc

[mystic oxide]

Aah ok

Does it only change the sky?

[azure dirge]

and does scrap multiplication stuff

[drowsy willow]

yes

[quartz willow]

Person who made meteor shower must feel under the weather after v64

[azure dirge]

not really

if anything, it's a bonus

[gritty blade]

What does Solar flare weather do? I know it's not a part of Weather tweaks but another mod, i'm just curious abt the effect

[mystic oxide]

makes everything using electricity have a malfunction

(walkie,radar,metal doors, teleporter etc..)

battery drains quicker too

[gritty blade]

Very interesting, how often does it occur during the day?

[mystic oxide]

It's during the whole day

[gritty blade]

Ah right I see, alr thanks for the informations then

[lean veldt]

Hi! I am using WeatherRegisty, I like the two new weathers. But I feel like odds of moons having a weather effect on them have been increased. Is there a way of making it so that I have vanilla odds of getting a weather effect on a moon but to still have solar flare and heatwave still in the mix?

[quartz willow]

How do I get this config panel?

[bleak quarry]

Its google sheets

[signal cedar]

google sheets, inspired by NotSoLethalCompany. it's really handy to do mod config

[quartz willow]

Looks like it’s how you give the moons their own weather weight tables

[signal cedar]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hiyO8r6nWU11XYIQBTdj31V7WQa19vxWGGEXCPtsPto/edit?usp=sharing if you want to take a look, it's not finished yet

[quartz willow]

Love what you modders have done for the game

[merry ermine]

so true

[hard tree]

6 is unmanagable. The enjoyment from playing on it is comparable to smearing your 6s with 6 and letting your 6 lick it off. Due to the 6 nerf the most profitable moon is 7 where the main and fire exit are seperated by a yoctometer so playing with 6 people is pointless. The second most profitable moon is Rend with about 6 nutcrackers spawning per day. Killing nutcrackers in a Mineshaft is like throwing a 90 side coin where 6 sides are tails and hoping it lands on 6s because of the assets in the interior. You cant loot the cavern system unless you have a 6 year experience of 6 exploring. You need to have photographic memory like a Detroit Become 6 android to remember how to return from that 6. Thanks for the cruiser tho at least I can easily bring back the 6 items I was able to find. Deleting 5 foxes good tho. Thats 6.

[haughty ingot]

missing Seichi

[signal cedar]

I've already tried that long time ago and have an issue so I'm not including that for now, but definitely adding Seichi to my modpack in the future

The moon looks amazing

[haughty ingot]

what would be the issue? 😮

[signal cedar]

I don't remember 🫠

[haughty ingot]

Well, if you figure it out, let me know and I'll fix it :p

[signal cedar]

Probably already being fixed tho, I just forgot to add it back

Might add it later tonight

[haughty ingot]

Maybe so, I recommend using Toystore and Scarlet Devil Mansion (SDM also has something special going for it on Seichi)

[signal cedar]

Just realized I'm talking to the man himself 😳

[stable echo]

Sorry for getting back to you late, but I just tried "preview weather" in the terminal and got "[There was no action supplied with the word.]"

[pulsar monolith]

Is there a way to disable the scrap value config? Or will it not mess with lethal quantities

[thick acorn]

set everything to 1

[pulsar monolith]

When I do that it seems to set them to vanilla settings, 0.4 for value and 1 amount

[drowsy willow]

registry overrides every other mod, i'll fix that in next release - sorry!

[ancient depot]

Truly a mrov moment of all time

[pulsar monolith]

That would be awesome, thank you

[drowsy willow]

WeatherRegistry 0.1.24

• changed how scrap multipliers are applied: they are not replacing other mod values' anymore

so right now setting both of them to 1 won't replace what you've got set up in other mods

[abstract pivot]

King type shi

[pulsar monolith]

Yoooooooooo

I wasn’t expecting it that fast! Thank you!

Question: if I set it to something other than one, will it adjust the value set by LQ? Or will it override like before?

[prime meadow]

Is this why I'm getting super low values on scrap items now?

[abstract pivot]

You should probably rollback

I think mrov done did an oopsie

[prime meadow]

I'll check if re-installing the new version fixes things, it might have something to do with the configs staying the same from the previous version brb

how did it become worse--
Experimentation

Here are some other moons for reference
I don't have any other mods that affect scrap value, to my knowledge, so Meteo is right now the only culprit on my mind

Huh.

Nevermind.

It's not Meteo...

I disabled it and still had messed up scrap spawns

Sorry

But man that's weird, there's literally no other mod that should be affecting scrap value!

[abstract pivot]

Yeah it's probably WR's new update

[prime meadow]

Seems you were right
Disabling Weather Registry brought scrap values back to reasonable levels

Hope it gets fixed soon :<

[drowsy willow]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[wicked latch]

Nice.

Math isn't mathing anymore?

[drowsy willow]

WeatherRegistry 0.1.25

• reverted 0.1.24 changes

i'm not touching shit till i can focus on the solution

sorry for that y'all

[drowsy willow]

it never did

😅

[wicked latch]

[pulsar monolith]

Ok thank you for trying

If it’s easier, would a config setting to disable it impacting the scrap all together be possible? Like to just shut that whole part of the mod off?

[drowsy willow]

i'll add something like that

[harsh flicker]

So this version is effectively the same as 0.1.24 right? since that version also messes with the scrap values?

[drowsy willow]

0.1.25 is the same as 0.1.23

pretend the scrap changes did not happen

[harsh flicker]

ahhhh i see

[pulsar monolith]

Thank you!

[robust timber]

what particular mod is dust clouds from?

[mystic oxide]

It's an unused vanilla weather

The only moons I've seen that uses it are Atlas Abyss and one of Tolian's

[azure dirge]

Sierra

(Harvest Moons)

[robust timber]

ah

is it just foggy but different? like what does it actually do?

[azure dirge]

a lighter fog with particles

[azure dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[ancient depot]

You really need to not push updates unless you have the time to test them ^^ it's a shame you're always so busy now but yeah

Don't pressure yourself

[red stone]

Quality over quantity I think

[azure dirge]

so a question for you, @faint sinew . any idea why custom apparatuses would disappear when you reload a save with one that's supposed to be on the ship?

[abstract pivot]

Would be because that apparatus' network object is not setup right usually

[azure dirge]

i just realized i posted in the wrong thread. fuck

sorry, mrov >n<

[faint sinew]

Yeah
I keep forgetting to fix it lmao

[rare glade]

do you have an example of how they should be setup?

I thought mine was based off the actual vanilla one

[abstract pivot]

Show screenshot

Of the network object

[abstract pivot]

Ping

[rare glade]

lmao will in a sec

restoring a backup rn

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-killed-that-shit-nufo-i-killed-it-i-slayed-i-did-great-gif-25538938

PSA: make regular backups folks, Unity has killed projects for less

[abstract pivot]

Jfc

[abstract pivot]

Follow these settings

[rare glade]

backup has been restored, lemme check now >:)

[abstract pivot]

Oh yeah, real convenient timing

It waited for me to do all the woek

That unity

[rare glade]

with a project this big baby it's like moving a moutain >:)

my poor HDD

[abstract pivot]

Lol

Coderebirth bigger

[abstract pivot]

(/s I think)

[rare glade]

Here is mine

[abstract pivot]

Shiii those are ur settings already?

[rare glade]

yeah haha

[abstract pivot]

Hmmmm

Layers?

And tag

[abstract pivot]

Hmm

Usually the reason something going into vector3.zero when you reload a save

Is because of the active scene synchronisation thing

*the auto object parent I mean

Are u maybe spawning it wrong?

[rare glade]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-mad-whatever-done-steve-carell-gif-7281251

I just spawn it via sync spawn object

like from the vanilla tile but with my object instead haha

[abstract pivot]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

What does vanilla apparatus look like

I cant decomp the game rn so idk how the spawn synced object function looks like

You can send screenshots if you'd like tho

[rare glade]

I can find it in a sec

[abstract pivot]

Then u better hurry

Im sleepy

[rare glade]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-car-gif-22098603

there is a spawn sync object component that spawns the apparatus

which I just copied for my interior too and I made my own copies

but it sounds like this happens to all custom apparatus

[abstract pivot]

Here's what I need u to do

Open up a new mod profile

Devtools and ur interior

Spawn your apparatus

Pick it back up

Make sure the game saves

Leave the game, reload the save, and it SHOULD stay there

[rare glade]

I will try to do this when I can T.T

Currently finalizing the Tripmines and bugfix the new tiles

[slow maple]

does foggy patch even work anymore LMAO

genuine question, cuz from my experience it might only work on the host?

[ancient depot]

No he removed it

You can use the BetterFog mod if you want

It had too many problems

[slow maple]

why is it even in the mod page anymore then 😭

[ancient depot]

and Mrov was too busy to work on it

[slow maple]

will try

[ancient depot]

He prolly forgot to update it

[ancient depot]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ironthumb/BetterFog/

[gritty blade]

Do you know if there's a way to setup different fog presets for specific moons? Asking you cause I know you play a lot with mods

like having a more yellow-ish fog on assurance/offense, and other colors for other moons

[slow maple]

seems like you can, yeah

[gritty blade]

I tried figuring it out but can't manage to, also I can't manage to have a customized fog density, not sure why maybe we've got another mod touching fog

[slow maple]

maybe

density is the bottom slider on the escape menu

weirdly enough, density's value is inverted, so a lower value will result in more density

[gritty blade]

I was more looking at the config files and modifying values for individual moons, which seems to change nothing to me

Cause there are moons where fog is almost like too thin you can see clearly which is not what i'd want but, yeah

[slow maple]

we can talk about it here #1280288943857733632

but it seems like it's a multiplier that's added on top of your preset

[gritty blade]

I'll be alright stopping here though, i'll have to see with my friends if they'd rather keep the fog that way or make it less dense

[slow maple]

yeah I do not have the energy to configure fog thaaat much, it's annoying to play with uper dense fog but it's also annoying to have to adjust so many things, esp since I don't know what the vanilla fog values are for reference

[gritty blade]

that's what I figured yeah

[harsh flicker]

Should i be running WeatherTweaks with WeatherRegistry? I see that WeatherRegistry makes Meteo redundant, but what about between these 2 mods? Like will the weather weighting on Registry overwrite the one in Tweaks?

[mystic oxide]

Weather Registry only overrides weather tweaks beta for the moment

[harsh flicker]

Alright, so in that case since i still have WeatherTweaks (Not beta) there no point specifying the weights for the weathers in Registry?

[mystic oxide]

Weather Registry's weights system wont work yeah

[mystic oxide]

Idk how something changed but looks like WT Beta also disable Registry's weather selection now

[ancient depot]

I stopped using WeatherTweaks a while ago

It also causes some issues with VoxxWeathers that Autumnis Discovered

It's a shame I miss WeatherTweaks but until mrov returns to update it I just can't use it

[mystic oxide]

The only reason I had it in my pack was because it fixed weather desyncs

Does that still happen without WT?

[ancient depot]

Nope

I think Registry also fixes that

[mystic oxide]

What do you set your None weather weight to?
I tried 260 and im getting max 3 none if any at all

[ancient depot]

I left all the default weather weights alone and it works fine for me, custom weathers like from VoxxWeathers and CodeRebirth I would lower the weights to around 50 though

Otherwise they're a bit too common

[harsh flicker]

Wait so WeatherRegistry lets you set the spawn rates for weather AND it fixes the weather desync?
So then what use does WeatherTweaks have?

[vestal socket]

i thought it was the default weather of expermientation?

[mystic oxide]

The dustcloud fog object is always there yeah, but not added by a weather in that case (if I understood correctly)

[vestal socket]

its smth thats hard coded into the game if the weather on experminentation is clear from what i understand so ig

[vestal socket]

dust clouds r just weird lol

[thick acorn]

the dust cloud effect is always present on experimentation, activated by reverbtriggers

[robust timber]

does this mod currently break meter showers? i haven't see any config options to adjust the spawn weights and i tried using another mod to tweak it and even at 100% chance i was unable to get them to spawn

[abstract pivot]

Weather tweaks is a child that mrov wishes to deprecate everyday lol

[gray kayak]

made 50% for all moons to have no weather till I was finally satisfied 😭

[harsh flicker]

I see, so i dont need it in the pack then? I can remove meteo+tweaks and just have registry?

[abstract pivot]

I forgor what tweaks does but ye I thinks

Think so*

[robust timber]

bump

not seeing any options to configure it

and i dont think its lethalelements thats conflicting with it

[worldly sleet]

meteor showers aren't a weather, they're a random event

[robust timber]

yeah but i cant get them to spawn when i have the event chance set to 100% while weatherregistry is enabled
i landed on vow just now and nothing happened

nevermind, they seem delayed

are they supposed to happen at random times throughout the day or is the intended behavior that the weather ping should happen as you land?

[worldly sleet]

they choose a random time of day to start after they roll the chance to see if they happen at all

[robust timber]

ah

[harsh flicker]

Just to make sure i am understanding how weather is set on each moon correctly in Registry:
-First, the weights of all weather is 0
-Then weights for that moon specifically is added
-Then weights are added based on what the last weather was
-Then finally the base weight is just added

So then, if i am thinking correctly, i could for example set the base weight of stormy to 0, and then set the weight for rainy-->stormy pretty high, and give no other weights to turn to stormy, and then it creates a situation where it will never be stormy immediately on a moon, but rather it needs to be Rainy first to cycle into it?

[abstract pivot]

I think so ye

[drowsy willow]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherRegistry/blob/120b2935fd3331a650c769e345630eaf934722d8/WeatherRegistry/Definitions/WeatherType.cs#L201-L223

nothing gets added, it's one or the other

[abstract pivot]

oh wait what

are you planning on making it additive?

and how does it know which one to choose?

[gray kayak]

default is only used if there's no level or weather-weather weight in config (I assume)

[harsh flicker]

So.... effectively level-based weight is kinda pointless, since its just gonna be overwritten by the weather-to-weather weights most of the time

[drowsy willow]

no, the exact opposite

it goes top-to-bottom

if it has level weight, it uses it

if there's both level and weather weight present, level one is picked

[drowsy willow]

no

[abstract pivot]

Would u consider it

[drowsy willow]

i'm gonna say this

i'm planning on reworking my current else-if system so a custom algorithm could be inserted

[abstract pivot]

When are u gonna git gud

[drowsy willow]

probably in 20 years

[harsh flicker]

AH, so if level weight is present then it overides the weather to weather weight?
That does sound a bit better ig
Means you can have a consistent weight for something on a moon

[drowsy willow]

yes, exactly 😅

if (1) is present, nothing else is considered

if (2) and (3) is present, only (2) is considered

if there's no (1) or (2), the default (3) is picked

[abstract pivot]

By not present, u mean 0?

[drowsy willow]

0 means it has value, so it's present

by "not present" i mean undefined

oh shit, i've said it

[abstract pivot]

So how do u get undefined

From a config value

I forgor how ur configs look like tbh so I could be yapping

But I thought each weather had a category

And the most u can do is set weight to 0

[drowsy willow]

level and weather-weather weights have to be explicitly defined

so if you want to not define them

you just don't

[abstract pivot]

Okie

[drowsy willow]

i know you're waiting on a bunch of features from Registry

i remember

[abstract pivot]

Am I?

I probably forgor

[drowsy willow]

are you? 🥺

[abstract pivot]

I just want you to make a config that calculates its own weights depending on the number of custom weather's for vanilla style stuff

[abstract pivot]

Oh yeah those

[drowsy willow]

and like fucking 10 more entries on my list

[abstract pivot]

Lol

[abstract pivot]

But yeah we've talked about this one and I think u liked my solution

[drowsy willow]

oh shit

that one i don't remember 😅

i'll go back through the messages tho

to be brutally honest, i haven't worked on LC mods for 2 months

so i don't remember shit

[abstract pivot]

That's fine

For a tldr

It was just overriding the users values and doing ur own math

And increasing the value of none

On all moons

Depending on the number of weathers

[drowsy willow]

oh, similar to what weathertweaks does

[abstract pivot]

So that it follows vanilla style of how much none pops up

[drowsy willow]

but in a good way?

[abstract pivot]

Lol idk I don't look at mods like that

[drowsy willow]

weathertweaks could scale down Clear weather popping up proportionally to the amount of possible weathers

so the weights you've put in were for a "all-weathers-possible" scenario

[abstract pivot]

Oh yeah so the exact opposite

[drowsy willow]

and on moons where only some weathers could be present value of None was dialed down to keep it proportional

and hard, i guess?

[abstract pivot]

Sus

[drowsy willow]

😏 🤭

[abstract pivot]

Anyway I'm trying to think of the implementation for that rn

Cuz I forgot

That each moon sets its own weathers

[drowsy willow]

I'VE MISSED THAT SHIT SO MUCH ahahhahaha

[abstract pivot]

Lol

It has been a while

[drowsy willow]

if you want to see the tweaky-tweaky-tweaks and how it does its magic: https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/blob/cb7ca12fac8ea933952955eb40f3584f27396b26/WeatherTweaks/Variables.cs#L73-L95

for the implementation

this is /old/ tweaks, so it's not using Registry weights

and it's stupid, dumb and stinky

[abstract pivot]

Lol

I'm aware

And I won't really look at it

Don't wanna get plagued with bad ideas

[drowsy willow]

thanks 😆

[abstract pivot]

[stark scaffold]

Just curious, are you still gone or are you back?

[abstract pivot]

Hes not done

So hes still gone

[sacred maple]

Does WeatherReg not effect the Apparatus? I'm trying to set up FacilityMeltdown and the base price I have for it is 300, and no matter what the weather is it's 300. Other scrap appears to be increased like normal, it's always just Keys and the Apparatus that are never increased and stay at 3 and 300.

FacilityMeltdown's config claims to have integration with WeatherReg's value increase, and I have it set to True, so I have no idea why it's not doing anything

Note that with FacilityMeltdown's value change off, WeatherReg still doesn't seem to effect it

[sacred maple]

Can confirm - in a separate r2modman profile with only WeatherReg and DevTools in it, 2 scrap items (Toilet Paper and Egg Beater) were higher value than their vanilla max due to the weather, but the Apparatus was still the vanilla 80. Is there not any way to have the Apparatus value be increased, or is this a bug?

[drowsy willow]

not yet

[sacred maple]

Ah okay, thank you!

I wonder why FacilityMeltdown claims it has integration then

[drowsy willow]

for the current weather multipliers

[harsh flicker]

It did before i am sure, i suppose its not been added to Reg yet

[drowsy willow]

hey, it's me again

what are the current issues with Registry/Tweaks?

[queen crystal]

Have you fixed that one issue with weathers changing on save reload yet?

[drowsy willow]

i haven't touched anything for 2 months now

and i've just finished my uni stuff

so we're back babyyyyyyyyyyyy

[queen crystal]

oh nice!

congrats!