Ship Windows

[white plume]

i delete all my old saves

then make a new one

saves time on bug testing

we had a lot of desync from the host's loading an old save before. i only realised we were playing on an old save when i saw an item that i was sure I disabled

[fringe wave]

I know lots of you using this mod also use LethalPipeRemoval, just be aware that if you disable the main speaker using that mod, the ship doors won't close

[dusty sorrel]

You'll want to always start a new save if you're installing or removing mods or you may have issues like this

[clear prairie]

Yeah

I just thought it was funny lmfao

Corrupted dart board with borked darts

[dusty sorrel]

The reason is the shutter switch is added to the unlockables list so its position is saved like other furniture

[clear prairie]

Yeah it makes sense 🙂

[vestal eagle]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1Z0QlIWJc2u7Ec/d1337HM12uYB?invite=cr-MSxzV1gsMTkxNzQ4NTczLA
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1Z0P8nc-t19PuR/d1337B02k4av?invite=cr-MSw0WTYsMTkxNzQ4NTczLA

(All on a new save btw) Either it's some conflict with another mod that I have no idea what it's doing or..

[dusty sorrel]

The lever?

[vestal eagle]

I get stuck in space when I lift off with this mod.

[thorny apex]

If you ever do pursue the space station idea, it would look great with this WIP mod #1198736199297286196 message

[dusty sorrel]

Could you send me a code with your mod pack? I'll have to troubleshoot to see what could be happening

[vestal eagle]

018e0a78-11bd-4cb0-413e-19a9cb946e95

(Ship windows is already disabled)

[dusty sorrel]

Thanks I'll have a look later

[solemn finch]

Oh boy

I love space

I cant see nothing but space

[dusty sorrel]

Are you saying that as in it's bugged?

[solemn finch]

Sometimes when i launch a save after changing configs I get stuck at this screen

I dont believe its your mods doing the more I think about it

Because it is weird

[broken spoke]

I never had that

[minor relic]

This now has a unity package out:
#1212150109375037511 message

[thorny apex]

Yeah saw it. Looking forward to see what people do with it

[unreal iris]

Looking forward to being able to purchase these as upgrades in the store! 👀

[clear prairie]

I like just having them available tbh

Game has plenty of ship upgrades that mods give in the store XD

[wheat quest]

yeah i know whats wrong

same thing hapened with a friend the other day

if you have SpaceOutside set to 0 (Let other mods handle it) without any mod that actually handles it (i only know SpaceSunShine), you wont be able to leave the moon or respawn

same thing happend with a friend and unless he left, we couldn't leave the moon, be fired and he didnt event respawn. i forgot to report the bug yesterday 💀

[dusty sorrel]

Oh I think I know why that happens...

give me a min

@vestal eagle @wheat quest It is fixed as of 1.3.6, sorry for the issues

[vestal eagle]

I'll test it out whenever it hits R2modman

[wheat quest]

same

[wheat quest]

@dusty sorrel yeah it works now, tested everything
landing and going to orbit several times, dying and even getting fired, it no longer gets stuck🙂

[onyx shoal]

By chance could let's say looking thru a window at 096's face still activate him? Or is it basically just a see thru wall?

[cerulean thunder]

as someone who hasn't tested the mods yet, the mod description and config don't make it clear why hideoutsideprops would be enabled by default

(I thought that was the point of the mod, making the planet and moon more visible when you normally only see it on the screen on the front of the ship

[dusty sorrel]

It's essentially a wall. I kept the ship's original collision mesh just to avoid any potential issues, but I could probably swap that out now and have enemies be able to see players through it

[dusty sorrel]

In retrospect, I will probably swap that to be false by default. It was arbitrary since they looked quite jarring compared to the skybox, since there was no light, but now there are mods that change that

[cerulean thunder]

what mod would that be? i'm curious. you could list them in the description with "mods X work well and enhance the view outside the ship in space"

[dusty sorrel]

There is one called SpaceSunShine for outside light, but someone mentioned it hasn't been updated in a while and might be broken (?)

I haven't used it though

[latent echo]

i figured it out

[quasi elk]

That looks wicked!

[dusty sorrel]

Sick

[granite arrow]

woah, will that be a thing moons can use?

[latent echo]

yes, any custom moon could use this. I just need to figure out a way to patch it into the vanilla moons.

[cerulean thunder]

what relevant mods are you using

[latent echo]

ShipWindow, LLL and my own. But I made this by changing the planet prefab (The thing you see in space)

[cerulean thunder]

looks cool, is that supposed to be Jupiter

[latent echo]

its a texture from mars

[cerulean thunder]

a cool setting would also be that the ship orbits the moon "upside down"

with the planet/moon "above" you

randomized

[maiden forum]

beautiful work man

[loud cape]

can we download ur mod?

[umbral wraith]

@dusty sorrel is shipwindows all clients or just myself

[severe minnow]

Are you adding that to your mod

[dusty sorrel]

Everyone will need it installed

[umbral wraith]

man :(

is it possible to make a client side one?

[severe minnow]

Is the door window released

[dusty sorrel]

1.0.5 will work with vanilla iirc.

[dusty sorrel]

Not yet, haven't had a chance to get into it yet

[severe minnow]

How dose he have it

:o

[umbral wraith]

was this replying to me?

[dusty sorrel]

Yeah

[umbral wraith]

neet

[dusty sorrel]

It's a lot older, but anything after that is networked etc etc

[dusty sorrel]

Er, I'm not seeing what you're seeing

[severe minnow]

His video

He has the window door

[broken spoke]

Its clearly there. Clear as glass lol

Its clearly there. Clear as glass lol

Did it send twice?

Or am i tripping

How tf

[ocean dragon]

yep we're putting you in the loony bin

(it did send twice)

[cerulean thunder]

after landing on a stormy planet i thought the shutter switch was the lightswitch

[granite arrow]

cast into darkness

[cerulean thunder]

i got the same bug someone mentioned where oyu can't land anymore after installing spacesunshine and messing with its and shipwindows's configs

[dusty sorrel]

Just to make sure you're on the latest version right?

[cerulean thunder]

OpenDoorsInSpace v1.0.2 by TitaniumTurbine

oh wait wrong mod

ShipWindows v1.3.6 by veri

[latent echo]

not yet

[cerulean thunder]

i wanted to share this even if it's not immediatly relevant to your mod
if you crouch on that ledge you would have to remove for a bigger window you can stay outside the ship if you stay put

[cerulean thunder]

it would be cool if you added an option to walk outside the ship while in orbit

[serene plank]

That's already a seperate mod

[broken spoke]

i think it was called spaceshipdoor

[undone jay]

This looks phenomenal

[elder locust]

There’s like 3 of them iirc which some offers death when you open it

Forgot what the safe one was called

[plucky estuary]

Any chance you could make another mod removing annoying bits inside the ship like that pipe vent thing by the terminal and those air tanks on the ground?

[broken spoke]

Lethalpiperemoval already does that

Just dont remove the ship speaker that breaks the door

[plucky estuary]

Oh? thanks Ill look that up

[broken spoke]

Is what i heard

[plucky estuary]

that mod isnt coming up in search results. Do you have a link by chance?

[broken spoke]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hamster/LethalPipeRemoval/

[plucky estuary]

thanks

[quartz mortar]

Holy crap that looks incredible! is there a thread for the progress on this mod? I abosolutely adore the look of the planet underneath like that

[minor relic]

#1212150109375037511 message

It's only a development tool, not an actual mod, as it stands currently

It's meant to be used by other moons / mods so there's always the possibility that it gets added to this one

I do really hope they make a simple mod to do that while in orbit for compatibility with things like opening the ship door in space

[thorny apex]

Technically it's up as a mod as well. They used the tool to make the "Spacestation" moon, which is WIP

[cerulean thunder]

T'is indeed, great mod!

[white plume]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/Spacestation/

this?

[thorny apex]

In reference to my statement yes

[gray lagoon]

yooo that is sick!

[timid onyx]

Is there a way to go to the spaceship station every time when you leave a moon, and to just open the ship doors, and relax there, leave some scrap for later quotas?

[dusty sorrel]

A while ago I was experimenting with a docked space station "lobby", but never really worked on it much beyond modelling a test room and loading it ingame

I'm going to revisit it eventually after I feel good about the state of windows

i.e. after I redo networking and make them buyable ship upgrades

[timid onyx]

is it normal to loose the grid or I don't know how to call it, the black lines,
it looks smooth when you look from the outside

[dusty sorrel]

Yeah, unfortunately when you look through multiple windows, the furthest one won't be rendered. From what I can tell, it's a limitation with refractive materials

I'd have to enable ray tracing to have multiple refraction

If anyone reading this has any ideas or workarounds to this, I'd be thankful

[timid onyx]

I don't mind being like that, just lets save the fps 😄

[quaint hamlet]

#artwork message
thoughts on adjusting the windows some to have some sort of frame/detailing? this mock-up really sold it for me

[dusty sorrel]

That looks really nice. I do want to make another pass on the windows and add some details for sure

[frail marsh]

curtains or door windows would be nice, ship set up is amazing cause of these windows

[onyx shoal]

Peter: there is someone is outside on the wing of the plane!
Peter after looking away for one sec:

[dusty sorrel]

I will be working on upgrades this weekend. My plan is to have each window separately purchasable, in any order. Later, I will add some decorations like curtains as well. Either way I'm going to add some frames and other details by default to make them a little more like windows and less like holes in the wall.

[timid onyx]

Can you add a little code to move the terminal from the window, it's not necessary, just asking if possible 😁

[fading agate]

been meaning to ask, but would you be able to add the old shutter texture as a config option? the current one's a little too simplistic for my liking

[dusty sorrel]

I can do that sure

[quasi elk]

LethalPipeRemoval has this

[vestal eagle]

So I heard a mod called Celestial Tint released and Ship Windows does something with it. (Not in a conflicting way) Will there be a way for the windows to shut when moving to a different planet? (Like selecting a planet) and then the windows shut and re-open once the planet is finished loading. (Instead of just going black) Also if I wrote this in some wrong type of way I just woke up.

[solemn finch]

thats literally in the configs

thats on by DEFAULT in the configs

[vestal eagle]

Guess it didn't work for me. Let me try again.

[vestal eagle]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1ZBJG74OKthLBS/d13379fKIZCs?invite=cr-MSxCVnMsMTkxNzQ4NTczLA

[silver heron]

he means when you're on the console

not implemented at the moment

that should be added imo if not HYPERSPACE

[dusty sorrel]

The wording is a bit off on that config setting, sorry. It means that when you load onto a moon and start landing, the shutter will close to hide that loading period

I've reworded it for the next update

[solemn finch]

ah

[dusty sorrel]

I believe sfDesat is experimenting with actual transitions so it won't go black like it does now

It should be better soon

[timid onyx]

some moons are still black, but it looks very nice, big future in his mod

[thorny apex]

Moons like E Gypt or Atlas Abyss with custom space props will do that till the level tag update

[dusty sorrel]

Made some pretty good progress tonight. Ripped out most of the networking and got unlockables working. Just need to write a clean way to spawn the windows in/replace the ship mesh when they're bought.

[unreal iris]

hype!

[regal oracle]

Weird request but any chance we could get a config option that closes the shutters while the ship is on the planet
I love the visual celestial tint and this mod have in the atmosphere however I enjoy not being able to see whats outside while in the ship
yes I could use the floor window but it doesnt really have the same effect imo

[serene plank]

You can just flick the switch to close them?

[regal oracle]

🤦‍♂️

right

im dumb

[solemn finch]

lmao

[coral jolt]

I'm guessing this mod won't ever work on client-side is it?

[fringe wave]

god damn this combo of mods is beautiful

[forest kayak]

Cool mod. I had to scroll 5 minutes to find the link 👍

[broken spoke]

Or u could've searched it up on thunderstore lol

[forest kayak]

nah too lazy to open thunderstore

[coral jolt]

ooohh!! what's the mod for the outer ones?

[dusty sorrel]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/Celestial_Tint/ for the planet/moon, make sure you configure ship windows to let other mods handle the outside space

[dusty sorrel]

It will in the next update unless I run into issues

[silver heron]

is there any way to keep ship windows version of space

[dusty sorrel]

Atm I don't think so

[silver heron]

bruh

[coral jolt]

Thank youuu!!

[dusty sorrel]

Well, everything works, I just don't know how stable it is yet. I'd hate to upload something and have it be super broken. Going to do some more testing before I publish :)

jk, it's broken

[maiden forum]

rip

[severe minnow]

Can you add a option to change the stars with celestial tint

[dusty sorrel]

Potentially, but probably not right now. Want to get this update done before I do something like that

[cloud finch]

does sfdesat have a discord thread?

[solemn finch]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1198736199297286196

[cloud finch]

thank you, i couldnt find it anywhere

[native zinc]

hello

does celestial tint do this or ship windows? #1198736199297286196 message

[gray lagoon]

pretty sure celestial tint is doing that

[native zinc]

no way to prevent it?

[gray lagoon]

the config is included in celestial tint so ig you have to restore your config after every update

[dusty sorrel]

The next update of ship windows will have some changes to make that no longer necessary. I still need to do some more testing on it before I can upload, though. Will be in the next day or so

If anyone wants to test the next update themselves, you can download the mod here https://github.com/jverif/lc-shipwindow/tree/2.0.0/out. ZIP the contents of the "out" folder and import it locally through your mod manager

Just note you may run into weird issues, potentially

[turbid cape]

So there's this issue where when I have SpaceOutside set to 2 the stars barely show up for me. When I have the ship light in front of me they become a little more visible but not by much

The weird thing though is that I sent this pack with the same exact configs and everything to someone else yet the sky looked a lot more normal to them

[dusty sorrel]

It could potentially be monitor settings, but that 2nd option is an older one that I replaced with #1 because it was too dark like that

I only left it in in case people didn't want the fairly bright red space skybox

[turbid cape]

Yeah I was looking for something more subtle if possible. If it's a monitor setting problem then I think I might know the issue. I'll have to try it on my second one to see if that's it

Hmm seems like it's about the same

[silver heron]

Floor windows keep disappearing?

[dusty sorrel]

What do you mean?

[silver heron]

I turned them on earlier but upon starting the game just now they are gone

[dusty sorrel]

That would mean something is messing with your config

Not sure what else could be going on

[native zinc]

I think celestial tint keeps changing ship windows’ config. I think after each update if i’m not mistaken.

[silver heron]

ah

[clear prairie]

I recommend not using Celestial Tint for now, it caused quite a few issues for me

As good as the mod is

[regal oracle]

What issues

[clear prairie]

Unable to back out of my own lobby for one a few times, it also caused a few issues with Weather but those have been fixed but some report the current version with it fixed doesn't work and they had to revert to 1.1.1 to make it functional again

[regal oracle]

I have never had issues shrug

[clear prairie]

Yeah who knows

It probably just has compat issues with some things

It could have been QualityCompany doing it before tbh that mod causes so many problems, it even broke GhostCodes partially til I got rid of it

I finally made an issue report on their github about the Networking feature causing problems

https://github.com/remiX-/QualityCompany/issues/20

They bundled too many different things together into it I feel like, the only stuff I like from it is the Hotbar stuff

[solemn finch]

I haven’t had many issues with celestial tint

The only issue I’ve had is relating to Celest but I don’t think that’s caused by Celestial tint

[clear prairie]

Yeah Celestial Tint seems to be fine

just tested the latest version on my current pack, in fact it seems it even increased performance a little over using the default Skybox from Ship Windows 😆

[high apex]

latest version of celestial tint was causing heavy fps drops for me with my modpack, so I'm just using 1.1.1 until Desat comes back from their break to look into it

[clear prairie]

You likely have a conflict somewhere

[high apex]

that's the unfortunate part, dunno what could be messing with it

ima experiment with it a bit and see if turning off a couple of mods works

[dusty sorrel]

The FPS issue may be from the custom shader used for the planets in the newer version

But surely it wouldn't cause that bad of a drop or stuttering

I don't get drops personally, but I do have an rtx 3070

[high apex]

You can notice it in this clip

[dusty sorrel]

Pretty large stutter there

[high apex]

mhm

[dusty sorrel]

I'm curious, do you have an AMD or Nvidia GPU?

[high apex]

nvidia

[dusty sorrel]

hmm

[high apex]

specifically rtx 3050 ti

laptop gpu tho

[clear prairie]

I get no stutters using Celestial Tint so it's some other mod doing it

[high apex]

It could definitely be a mod conflict. I have 129 mods in my modpack lol

[clear prairie]

Try adding AsyncLoggers, it could just be the game logging doing it

[high apex]

already have it lol

[clear prairie]

Yeah you probably just have some unoptimized mods then

[high apex]

mhm, most likely

[clear prairie]

I can list a few right off the bat that I know are

QualityCompany, HotbarPlus, and Mimics by x753

If you use any of those

[high apex]

i have hotbarsplus and mimics

[clear prairie]

Yeah those I found are unoptimized

[high apex]

got rid of qualitycompany earlier because I saw the convo you were having

[clear prairie]

Hotbarplus adds input delay for some reason

I swapped it for ItemQuickSwitch and ScrollInverter by Notatall

[high apex]

kay, I'll try those

[clear prairie]

Idk what else is in your pack to see if you may have any other unoptimized mods, some cosmetics are super unotpimized

Absas and Inacraft are really bad at that

[high apex]

here's what I have in terms of cosmetics

[clear prairie]

I don't really see anything that stands out

So should be good

[regal oracle]

I see SmoreCosmetics

[high apex]

yessir 😎

[high apex]

I love these so much lmao

the one thing that sucks about removing hotbarplus is that you change the hud to fully fade out when you're not using it

makes it feel like the screen is less cluttered

[regal oracle]

On the topic of stuttering my game tends to crawl to a halt whenever we pull the lever
I know it’s loading stuff but it is like extreme stuttering or lagging especially if somebody takes a while
Not sure if this is just a side effect of having like 70 mods or custom interiors but it is kinda annoying

[regal oracle]

@solemn finch has so many of these images

[clear prairie]

For me I only have that with Titan 😆

[regal oracle]

I stole em

[clear prairie]

Titan is evil

[regal oracle]

For me with Titan the setting seed takes a while but literally zero lag

It’s weird

[high apex]

bro IS Kevin Hart at this point

[clear prairie]

I know having Office installed caused my pc to run hotter and increases item desyncs for some people, even when the interior or monsters never spawned

[high apex]

I have so many modded moons and interiors that I'm so used to that stutter at this point lol

[clear prairie]

I really want Office to become stable tbh 😦

[regal oracle]

I have Wesley + starlancer and most interior mods

[clear prairie]

Wesley's might do it, cus of LECore stuff

[regal oracle]

I didn’t even know it had issues

[clear prairie]

I wish Wesley would swap to LLL

[regal oracle]

Would be alot of work I’d imagine

[clear prairie]

What's your opinion on Starlancer's moons btw?

I want more vanilla style moons and interiors, Office is vanilla styled which is why I like it so much 😆

[high apex]

I love having a wide variety because one thing that eventually bored me with the vanilla game is the repetition of the same interiors and moons

[regal oracle]

I have literally like every intro er most are made so well

[regal oracle]

Goood

Solace is very nice can’t wait for the foliage update tho

[high apex]

I second this, Solace and Triskelion are very cool moons

haven't been to Auralis yet

[solemn finch]

Ay when you can, can we talk in dms

[regal oracle]

Trisk is a nice change in gameplay / environment

Auralis is cool but just too bright imo

[rigid spindle]

office is such a cool interior

[regal oracle]

Real

[rigid spindle]

but i agree with lunxara that its unstable

[clear prairie]

The enemies are really buggy too

[solemn finch]

I like the idea of office, it just need a bit more variety to its tiles

And then finally stabilizing the elevator

Then shrimp and halt AI fixed

[regal oracle]

In what way tho I genuinely haven’t had issues

[solemn finch]

I have yet to experience halt

[regal oracle]

Granted I haven’t rolled office that much

[high apex]

me as well

honestly get paranoid of walking down long hallways now that Halt is a thing

[regal oracle]

I have Halt disabled

[clear prairie]

Halt doesn't really fit into the game from what I've seen tbh

[rigid spindle]

its prob more stable now, but im just gonna wait for some more patches before i try it again

[solemn finch]

Mainly the bugs now relate to shrimp

[rigid spindle]

shrimp + toomanyemotes = 1 fps, my past experience

[solemn finch]

Wait really

That’s a weird combo

[rigid spindle]

im sure its fixed now

[clear prairie]

I mean luckily the enemies can be disabled

[quasi elk]

Doesn’t the native inverter also invert terminal scrolling

[clear prairie]

No no, I was talking about the mod that inverts hotbar scrolling

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/NotAtAll/ScrollInverter/

It only touches the hotbar

[quasi elk]

Oh I know

I was just saying like I’m pretty sure the in game one inverts terminal scrolling which is why people still use scrollinverter

[clear prairie]

Yeah the native one is annoying

[quasi elk]

Hopefully a lot of these small QoL mods won’t be needed when v50 comes around

[high apex]

do you know of any mods that increase the base inventory size, Lunx? I had mine set to 5 to balance things out in my modpack

[clear prairie]

I just use reservedwalkieslot and reservedflashlightslot with it

[solemn finch]

One of flip mods

[quasi elk]

Reservedslots obviously

Uhh

[solemn finch]

He has one that lets you edit the hotbar size

[quasi elk]

AC does but that’s a ton of other stuff so very unnecessary unless you already happen to use it

[solemn finch]

Forget the name of it but I recommend all of Flips stuff,

[quasi elk]

But yeah there’s def a couple of options

[solemn finch]

HotbarPlus

[high apex]

definitely not using AC again oof

[solemn finch]

That’s the name

[quasi elk]

Yep it’s HotBarPlus

[clear prairie]

I was just recommending not to use that cus it caused input delay 😆

[quasi elk]

So reservedslots or hotbarplus

[solemn finch]

It does?

[clear prairie]

Yeah

Idk why

[quasi elk]

Even with the other settings disabled/set to default?

[clear prairie]

but if you disable it mouse input is smoother

[solemn finch]

I remember it having a good bit of config settings

Maybe you can fix it there

If not

[quasi elk]

I know moreblood isn’t perfect either

[solemn finch]

Flip is on this discord, could always ask him to see if he could fix it

[clear prairie]

I'm just gonna wait for the update where flip makes it vanilla compatible

[quasi elk]

Doubled footprints for me lol

[clear prairie]

That might fix it

He is planning to do that

[quasi elk]

So it looked like tire tracks almost

[rigid spindle]

i didnt realize that

[solemn finch]

I configured my moreblood to be more reasonable

[quasi elk]

Eh I just removed it

[solemn finch]

I forget what vanilla blood looks like

[high apex]

@clear prairie have you ever used these settings from GI? It wasn't really compatible with hotbarplus, but now that I got rid of it I might turn them on unless they cause some sort of desync

[regal oracle]

On office having issues was it just performance or

Right I forget this is ship window thread lol

We have been talking about a bunch of other random mods

[clear prairie]

😆

[clear prairie]

Even when you set them to true, the input delay is still a problem it's just an optimization issue on Hotbarplus' end currently

it's a trade off you have to deal with

[high apex]

yeah I'll leave it disabled then

the stuttering is still happening unfortunately

[quasi elk]

That’s a very ominous message out of context

[solemn finch]

haha

i was gonna make a joke about this

I will never forget what your blood looks like

[quasi elk]

that just made me think of the idea of someone bleeding just straight up vanilla extract

[rigid spindle]

yummy

[elder locust]

https://tenor.com/view/yummers-the-boys-homelander-gif-26204488

[clear prairie]

I can't look at him without thinking of his role as Homelander lmao

[frail marsh]

little cool secret to the window mod, if u use the scaleable tv mod outside the ship to see the tv outside the windows u can get a better picture quality its not all mudded down, guess youd need better decor placement mod too so u can place things anywhere

[silver heron]

what's that storage mod?

[elder locust]

Fr

[frail marsh]

what are you talking about

[regal oracle]

if I had to guess

[frail marsh]

lol

thats the bunk beds i just throw the cores on them

i have bunkbed revive so i have to have the bunkbeds in my layout

i got a wall dedicated to my adventures and funny moments on the tv as well

[rigid spindle]

thats from the lethalsnaps mod right?

how do u put the pictures on the wall?

[frail marsh]

got a dope pic of Ai in my game i cant remember which one he is

[dusty sorrel]

[rigid spindle]

that is a dope ass pic

[frail marsh]

ill let you know once i get this moon pack to finish downloading, its one of the camera mods idk which one but once you take the photo you can hang them up and they stay through out the game and other people see them all synced that werent even there which is cool

[silver heron]

looks like shy guy

[rigid spindle]

oh no

[frail marsh]

yeah thats the guy

[silver heron]

you just hold a picture and click on the wall

[frail marsh]

was hard to get a photo without him going after me

yup

im gonna get one of the bracken one of these days

[rigid spindle]

neat i took a selfie

[frail marsh]

turn ur flash light n flash off the camera

[rigid spindle]

wish it captured the sky from the ship windows mod

[frail marsh]

you can put your photos inside the cupboard door which is cool

[dusty sorrel]

I think things are stable now, so I'm uploading version 2.0.0 of the mod:
Changes:

• Windows are now listed as Ship Upgrades by default. You can use the terminal to purchase any of the three windows from the store at a configurable price. Can be disabled completely if you'd rather just have them by default, or you can choose which ones to have automatically unlocked at the start.
• Vanilla compatibility mode. Use the "VanillaMode" config option to keep network compatibility so you can join vanilla lobbies. This disables the shutter switch & unlockables.
• Detects Celestial Tint and disables any conflicting features so the config does not have to be changed in the presence of both mods.

Important: If you have any of the windows disabled in the config, you will have to enable them to allow them to be added to the store as an upgrade.

Currently planned features:

• Add window trim and decorations
• Replace shutter mesh
• Open and close sounds.

Let me know if you run into any issues. I did as much testing as I can on my own, but I could have missed some random edge cases.

[fading agate]

YIPEE

question, since they're unlockable now does that mean that enemies could actually detect that they're being looked at if watched through a window?

[dusty sorrel]

No, I actually still need to look at that

It might not be that hard to add, but I am a little worried that changing the collision mesh could have some bad side effects

BUT, maybe not

[fading agate]

ye, it seems like it could get finnicky

still sick though!

[dusty sorrel]

I will lose my mind if you download it and it breaks completely

:)

[fading agate]

[elder locust]

So no door windows as a future plan

[fading agate]

i will try it right now

ok so i spawn with 1 window (i moved the terminal out the way)

ok i bought the upgrade, sick

[tribal chasm]

Why does this break LethalPosters now?

it used to work fine

[vestal eagle]

Wait a sec your right

[dusty sorrel]

Before, the posters were replaced immediately, then LethalPosters would do it's replacement

[vestal eagle]

I'm very stupid!

[dusty sorrel]

When you buy the window, Ship Windows will replace them with what it packs in the bundle

so LethalPosters gets overridden

[ocean dragon]

which poster replacement is that

[dusty sorrel]

There is a config setting to not do that

[tribal chasm]

Yeah but it also replaces them even when the windows are enabled by default

[dusty sorrel]

but the 2nd window will be covered by a poster if you turn it off

[white plume]

what if i have the windows unlocked by default?

[vestal eagle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Cades/BestiaryPosterTips/

[ocean dragon]

yay

[white plume]

does this work with other poster mods?

[tribal chasm]

How did you fix?

[fading agate]

there's no floor window upgrade btw, probaby intented

[dusty sorrel]

You may have to enable it

[vestal eagle]

Just start the ship

[vestal eagle]

If it works with mine it prob will work for all the other poster mods

[tribal chasm]

Do you know any other mods that changes the other posters and be lore friendly like this?

[vestal eagle]

Nah this is the only poster mod I've ever used.

[white plume]

i was using vintage posters which uses lethalposters. does that bestiary work together with it?

[vestal eagle]

Seems to work for me! Might test it a few more times though

[white plume]

nice

[vestal eagle]

Alright. So it might sometimes work but sometimes not. It's picking random images from either the bestiary posters or the vintage posters. So 50/50 on this.

[white plume]

oh dang

in a sense it's a "Tips" note

so it should be fine i guess

[vestal eagle]

👍

[dusty sorrel]

I'll see if I can make it work with lethal posters better

Actually, if it only changes the texture I should have no issue fixing that. I'll check tomorrow

[onyx shoal]

same tho i have mine as 1 also my 2nd window is mission as well

[fleet sigil]

Isn't there a mod that lets you open the ship doors while in orbit? Does anyone remember the name? [Answered]

[true schooner]

SpaceshipDoor ?

[fleet sigil]

That's probably the one, thank you

[turbid cape]

Your second window is missing? As long as you have the correct configuration it should show up fine

[onyx shoal]

idk, its on like window 1 but its not there

[turbid cape]

I'd double check just in case. I know window 1 hides right behind the terminal with the second and third one being more obvious

[fading agate]

ahh didnt knot it was a config

oki!

[onyx shoal]

the one behind the terminal is there, 2nd one isnt, and i have the floor one disabled

also space it pitch black ;-;

[onyx shoal]

some how fixed window not showing up, but still pitch black in space

[fleet sigil]

I feel like since I installed SpaceShipDoor my items inside the ship keep spawning under the ship whenever I exit and reload the save.. has that ever happened to you too?

[dark dome]

Hey Veri, is it possible to add another window without glass on the roof like a trapdoor?

It could act as another entry point with the shutters and make it easier getting around dogs/giants or when jetpacking scrap back to the ship.

[dusty sorrel]

If changing the collision mesh of the ship doesn't break everything then I could look at an option like that, but it is sort of out of scope for what this mod is.

[manic dagger]

Love this mod Big W thought i would tell you 😉 have a nice day

[keen bay]

This is my problem. Black in space, but works on planets

[dusty sorrel]

What mods do you use?

[keen bay]

An ungodly amount. But it used to work before the update and now it doesn't. Any mod types I should look out for that may conflict?

[dusty sorrel]

Not sure beyond what I've listed in the readme. Do you use Celestial Tint?

The only thing I can think of that would cause that is the compatibility checker thinking that's installed when it's not, which would make the stars not visible, deferring to celestial tint

[onyx shoal]

Don't think I use that one, tho it was working good last time I played, so something updated and broke something idk

[white plume]

did you set the configuration to have the space? or set to the moon's?

i think i put "0" on that configuration or something

it kinda reset the configuration after updating

mine did. so i had to set up the configuration again after updating

[onyx shoal]

just tried 0 on that sadly no change

[gray lagoon]

I haven't completely followed up on this convo but I had the same issue. Downgrading to 1.1.1 fixed it. Couldn't find any incompatible mod/moon.
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[high apex]

Yeah, I downgraded to 1.1.1 as well and it fixed it. Hopefully desat will look into it soon

[clear prairie]

In my case I had no issues but a friend who joined the lobby lagged really bad, so we removed Celestial Tint and it fixed it

Seems like stuff is going on when you're joined as a client

[latent echo]

the plot thickens

[clear prairie]

Yeah, does it touch rpc's or anything at all?

[latent echo]

no it should be client side

[clear prairie]

Odd

Something strange is definitely happening then on a per hardware basis it seems like after the performance update then ig, I just wonder what

[latent echo]

yeah, its probably the shaders not being set up for more types of hardware

[clear prairie]

Cus for me it performs better than the default Ship Windows skybox

Probably

[latent echo]

I'll see what i can do. What are your specs out of curiosity?

[clear prairie]

12900k, 32gb of ram and a RTX 3060

[latent echo]

ah thats pretty similar to mine

ok i'll try some things

[clear prairie]

👍

[left surge]

Hello!
We with my friends love your mod!
Could you implement an option with the window that is symmetrical to window 2?
We love windows from both sides, but the first one is hidden behind the terminal. It would be nice to have relocated variant

[rigid spindle]

i usually just move the terminal to the right of the window.

[hoary wren]

seems like latest version has bug that cause terminal and some other cosmetic items like jack-o-lantern to become desynced for non-host player when they join

only if i move terminal or pumpkin, it's position is synced with non-host players again

not happening on previous version without paid windows

[timid oyster]

I was wondering why this was happening, I couldn't figure out what was causing it.

[dusty sorrel]

I was doing some testing earlier and came across some issues around that too. I'll see what's up

[dusty sorrel]

I think I have that fixed. I'm checking out another issue right now where the windows just don't spawn when you load in

This one is a conflict however

[mint hound]

hey, i recently updated the mod and for some reason, no matter what skybox i pick, it seems outside is just black, no stars or anything any more? I even uninstalled and reinstalled, and still have the issue

it was working the other fine but now its just nothin

[onyx shoal]

^

[dusty sorrel]

Can you share a code to what mods you are using please?

[mint hound]

018e3ad5-94e5-ecf1-6f9d-d330ff497a14

[dusty sorrel]

Thanks, I will have a look

[mint hound]

i was in the process of redoing all my configs and stuff, so it might be a bit messy, lol

hence how i found the bug through updating and such

[dusty sorrel]

I just uploaded a version that should hopefully fix that. Can you test when you get a chance?

Whenever it hits thunderstore

[hoary wren]

sure, but probably in ~14-15 hours or so, as it's 6 hours here and we usually play around 20-21

[dusty sorrel]

Ok, apparently Celest brings its own copy of Celestial Tint (NightSky.dll) that bepinex loads, making my mod pick it up thinking Celestial Tint itself is installed

[mint hound]

huh, weird cause I’ve had celest and ship windows installed together before

[dusty sorrel]

There was a workaround with config options before to let Celestial Tint handle space

I recently updated it to detect if the plugin was loaded and disable space if it was

[mint hound]

ahhh okay

I’ll disable celest when I get the chance then

tyty

[dusty sorrel]

Np, I'll let sfDesat know about this, maybe we can fix without having to go back to hacks

@timid oyster tagging as well since you mentioned having that furniture issue too. When you get a chance please try the latest update and let me know if it still happens

[timid oyster]

Yep that fixed the furniture being desynced for clients.

[turbid cape]

Ok so I definitely wasn't the only one experiencing issues then

[dusty sorrel]

Awesome thanks for confirming

[left surge]

We don't like this position of the terminal, because there is no much space here

[dark steppe]

You can disable that window and replace it with the left side window in config

[left surge]

I already have this on, thank you.
I would like to have an option in the config for the alternative Window 1 position to make it symmetrical to the Window 2 without the need to move the terminal

We love to have windows on the both sides but we don't like the need to move the terminal 🙂

[dusty sorrel]

You mean to move the right window so that it's on the angled bit of the wall instead?

similar to the left

(if looking into the ship)

[left surge]

Yep!
To be able to move it to the right of the terminal

[dark steppe]

How about we make the entire ship a window, inovation at its finest

[left surge]

I think it would be nice to have this option

[dusty sorrel]

Yeah that's doable. I'm planning on going back to the windows with some details soon, so I can see about that then

[left surge]

Good!

[fast garnet]

ok so making sure, delete Celest?

That'll fix black skybox?

[dusty sorrel]

I've fixed the issue on my end, no need to disable Celest now as of 2.0.2

[fast garnet]

awesome, tyty

[opal sparrow]

@dusty sorrel do the ships windows block you from seeing particles outside through them?

[dark plume]

I thought window shutter was supposed to close when changing moons or landing, according to option description. But it doesn't seem to be the case?

[clear prairie]

They close for me when landing on a moon and leaving

[dark plume]

Yeah, I see. Just not for changing orbit.

[clear prairie]

Yeah

[dark plume]

Should close on changing orbit too IMO.

[dark plume]

Re-read the tooltip, and it only mentions landing. My bad.

[dusty sorrel]

I do recall bees being invisible on hives through windows. I may have to disable refraction after all

It looks nice, but it's so limited unless you want to turn on recursive rendering / raytracing

[silver heron]

Config toggle? I kinda like the way things look through windows unless the other option isn’t too bad

[wide talon]

i agree with this. it looks very strange currently

[minor relic]

Close or have a warp speed visual

Maybe as a config

[dark plume]

Close is much easier to do to say the least.

[minor relic]

For sure

[wide talon]

only issue with closing while changing orbit would probably be the lighting

[dusty sorrel]

Space transitions are planned for Celestial Tint, provided it isn't too much of a pain to implement, but I can have the shutters close in the meantime probably

[clear prairie]

Yeah it could be a toggleable option

[rigid spindle]

i really like the skybox from ship windows

outer space looks so pretty

[opal sparrow]

i think you're masking some important layers

though the layer my particles are in currently is buggy so prolly more important to fix the bees

[dark plume]

Would've been great.

[dusty sorrel]

It's not so much particles, but VFX graphs that don't get rendered

The bees are a VFX graph instead of a particle system

particles seem to render fine:

(left vfx, right particle system)

[latent echo]

thats probably best. i cant make any big updates for a bit.

[latent echo]

i think the trails on particle systems also dont get rendered

[dusty sorrel]

Well that's no good

[late ether]

I love this mod and share it with everyone I meet but half of them don't know how to configure vanillamode on, can I suggest having it on by default so people don't start having errors when trying to use it off the bat?

[dark plume]

They can't open config editor and change one thing to true?

[dusty sorrel]

Unfortunately vanilla mode disables windows as ship upgrades, which is something I'd rather keep as the default since that's now a core feature of the mod

[bright coral]

Hi, just a heads-up if anyone noticed "hiccups"

• I've been tinkering with the Ship Windows+Tube Remover+Celestial Tint.

-->Do remember to Disable planet rotation on ship windows!
I believe it's still trying to pan some nullreferenced materials even if the skybox is set to 0... even when you're not in orbit!

I'm no longer having such issues now - smooth as oil ^^

the fact that Celestial Tint by default overwrites Ship Windows' settings is a bit annoying tbh

Hey @dusty sorrel , I bet it's not high in the priorities but, is there any chance you could make the skybox rotation configurable (as in maybe Euler speed, degrees per seconds in XYZ?), and in synch with the approximated directional light (when Ship Windows is handling it?). Could be just me but I'd love some extra rotation, the Crew is a bit too comfortable 😛

(plus, a directional lightsource spinning outside give its best with all the carvings)

probably the biggest fps offender right now are the 3 volumetric fog spotlights with shadowcasting inside the ship - we probably could live without the volumetrics, especially if you crank up its quality 😛 (yup, I know it's part of the base game, maybe it could be another thing LethalPipeRemoval could disable/replace? That mod can basically dismantle the whole ship now 😄 )

[dusty sorrel]

Are you confident disabling that setting gave you that much performance? The actual routine is fairly light, and has a few checks to make sure it's not causing any errors

[dusty sorrel]

This was required because having Celestial Tint installed without changing the required ship windows settings would result in a black skybox

[dusty sorrel]

That should be no problem, I'll add it to my list

[bright coral]

no, I'm not confident at all to be fair - I assumed the hiccups were because of some periodic (1-2 secs) event happening and -worked for me- as soon as I disabled that it worked just fine. Looking at the code tho, maybe it was something else? 😅

[late ether]

I respect that. Love your mod! Drastically improves the atmosphere on the ship!!

[gray lagoon]

Disabling rotation does nothing for my stutters (big stutter, more like short freeze every 5 seconds). In fact rotation was already disabled for me.
I can only get rid of these stutters be reverting to Celestial Tint v1.1.1

[dusty sorrel]

Been taking a break from things for a little bit. Looking to pick back up on this very soon

[fading agate]

take as many breaks as you need goat!!

gotta get that rest in

[sick rampart]

hello! i was just wondering if there's a way to increase the performance when using the mod, it drops my fps by like 10 which isn't a big deal but some of my friends don't have the strongest of pcss! and also wanting to know how the shutters work cos i can't seem to use them 😭 (figured this one out nvm :'3)

[bright coral]

I suppose one of the main reasons it's impacting the FPS is it's, well, because Unity's no longer just rendering the ship when in orbit.
That should be obvious but I have no info on how the game creator is handling occlusion.

Maybe it's because the shader of the glass is refractive (and the game is using the Unity HD rendering pipeline), so it has to render everything in multiple passes? (if so, having an option to have a simple barebone transparent material for all windows would be great)

I believe you should try to turn off any additional lights (those below the ship) to minimize the number of active volumetric lights. You -could- try to turn off volumetric fog entirely but it completely alters the look of the game and has quite some gameplay consequences since you're being able to see -way- farther.
There are several mods that allow you to do so but they're passing completely over my mind at the moment and can't check. Try searching for "graphic" or "postprocessing" in the mods directory.

[dusty sorrel]

I'll be working on the material and adding a setting that disables refraction since it has issues. That should probably help with performance

and given that recursive rendering put my unity into a recursive crash loop, that probably won't be an option :p

[elder thunder]

Would be neat if the windows cracked each time you have a team wipe before deadline hits

[sour musk]

You might like the malfunctions mod which can be configured to have ship and equipment malfunctions whenever your whole team doesn't survive.

[clear prairie]

@dusty sorrel is that update coming soon that disables the refraction?

[dusty sorrel]

It's a smaller change so I can do that when I get home or tomorrow

[clear prairie]

Okay ^^

[bright coral]

oh my. Sounds cool but please make it an option, I'm OCD to have my ship creaks free, tidy and all. I even removed the crack on the helmet 😛

as soon as I recover from the BG3 modding burnout - the DOF (tilt-shift) effect is going to be the first thing it makes my hands itch.

Besides, there are rumours v50 is going to hit Steam in a week or so, so I should probably just wait for an improved Options menu (good lord - everything's gonna break T_T)

[dusty sorrel]

2.0.3

• Add support for custom poster materials when Left window is active.
• Disable refractive glass by default. It can be enabled in the config still.
• Moved 4K skybox to a separate mod / addon to reduce main bundle size. (https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/veri/ShipWindows_4K_Skybox/)

[severe minnow]

dose it work with celestrial tint

[solemn finch]

🤫

[solemn finch]

Nah

[dusty sorrel]

The skybox doesn't no. I haven't messd with that yet

[solemn finch]

(should probably update that recommended mods)

[dusty sorrel]

yeah true

[pure bay]

any idea if some of the ship part visibility will be fixed in orbit? like the thrusters and some piping don't seem to render in space. and some exterior bits (only visible if you go outside via ship doors mod)

[dusty sorrel]

Yeah, I haven't looked at it much yet, but it's definitely still something I'll see about doing

I know they're controlled by animations instead of manually via script, so timing might be a little tricky unless I just spawn copies of everything

[granite arrow]

it's all a lie

[split topaz]

in order to have this work with celestial_tint, I should have the config set to 0 right?

[minor relic]

yes

[dusty sorrel]

I've made it so Celestial Tint is detected, so you shouldn't have to manually change the setting for things to work

If you were having issues though, please let me know

[earnest steppe]

Can you make it so the shutter switch disappears when you disable shuttering

[dusty sorrel]

Yeah, I'll do that in the next update this week

[unique vault]

Speaking of CelestialTint, Desat directed me here bcs I proposed smth that only you could implement

Tint has that issue where swapping moons causes them to blink for a second before the animation starts playing

I suggested for shutters to close in a similar manner that they do when loading into a moon

when switching between moons

cuz as of now there's no obvious fix to this

could this be implemented?

[dark plume]

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[unique vault]

[fading agate]

getting "host does not support ship window 1 prefab" or something along those lines

any idea whats up?

[dusty sorrel]

the huh now? Can you send the log or a screenshot of console?

Make sure your config files match too just in case

[fading agate]

literally no idea lmao

might be mismatching configs

we ended up disabling the mod fo the time being

[frail marsh]

my ship lost the shutter button idk why made new saves n it still isnt here n cant find in the config where u remove the shutter button

[dusty sorrel]

Are you getting any errors in console from ship windows when you start a game?

I need to rewrite how the switch is handled anyway... It's a bit of a hack, and I'm not surprised if there are issues

[frail marsh]

no errors i have probably the cleanest log files in my pack, only error is the mimic code keeps getting thrown when we arent on planet yet it cant find where to place our voices but thats it really

idk, i had a setting where the ship windows closed automatically when landing and the button wouldnt let me open or close them so i turned that setting off and now the buttons gone all together

[frail marsh]

where is this window i finally got the shutter button to show but it doesnt actually do anything but i lost the window in the process @dusty sorrel

[fluid granite]

Concept idea: buyable tints 👀

[dusty sorrel]

Enemies can't see through the windows because I'm still using the vanilla ship's collision mesh

Knew I was forgetting to write something down lol

[bright coral]

That's hilarious 😄
He's cheating a bit tho, even if I get that's how the AI has been coded.

Does this mean that in next version we won't ever see the bracken even when on the ship? 😛

[long garnet]

this is the silliest game of peakaboo ive ever seen

[unique vault]

I thought that was either the point of the mod or just a convention not worth tackling

[sour musk]

aw he looks happy to be back in the forest

[wild sage]

Sooooo many windows but no pins! What has this company come too...... smh.. 🤷‍♂️

[slender musk]

tbf i think thats a good thing?
Giants are already annoying enough when they see you through the front

if we pretend the window is tinted then its fine

[wide talon]

purchasable tint is the way to go

[fair musk]

Why does the stuff under the ship disappear in orbit?

And the two lamps are just floating there xd

[dusty sorrel]

The game hides that stuff since normally you can't see under the ship in orbit. I still haven't looked into how I can make them visible permanently without nuking the animation or using some hack that could break if anything around it changes

[lethal saddle]

that or use the shutters

also an option to move the shutters switch would def be nice

[dusty sorrel]

It is actually a piece of furniture that you can move

[lethal saddle]

oh neat, guess i just wasn't hitting B in the right spot x3

[dusty sorrel]

If you end up not being able to let me know, idk how, but there's always a chance I could have broken it

[lethal saddle]

also looking at the door design, would the inner bit of the door be changeable to glass at all?

[earnest steppe]

@dusty sorrel

[opal sparrow]

the forbidden disc

[dusty sorrel]

I think someone else reported that a while ago too. I'm not sure what it is tbh

It's probably related to how Lethal Expansion adds a terrain below the ship that becomes visible with the floor window, that I patched to be way out of view

[latent echo]

no this is something else its in vanilla. I think its where the playermodels get put when unused, but for some reason zeekers put a big white plane under them

you can fly there using unity explorer

[lethal saddle]

yea, the player pips appear on a seperately rendered area under the map

can easily access one in vanilla, the one in 71-Gordion is just straight to the right of Jeb

will need a Jetpack to reach though

[glad cape]

or just use a dev mod thingy

[earnest steppe]

???

[elder thunder]

Tofu

[knotty grove]

@winged flower 's arch nemesis

[dusty sorrel]

What the

[winged flower]

It's spreading

[lethal saddle]

the cübe

[unique vault]

its growing

[toxic turtle]

28 fps, damn

[earnest steppe]

You guys know what caused the cube? It spawns while landed too

[bright coral]

probably the typical "spawn room" box present in many games, generally sporting the default textures of the engine

[earnest steppe]

Haven't seen that since early GTA V

[latent echo]

@dusty sorrel I managed to disable the floating white platform in the distance, but i think it should be included in your mod. It is also visible without Celestial Tint. Here is the code. (ignore ReplaceCurrentPlanetPrefabs)

[dusty sorrel]

Nice, thank you. I was planning on seeing where those were today actually

[latent echo]

dope

[dusty sorrel]

already updated

[latent echo]

oh nice lol

[dusty sorrel]

As far as I can tell, Ship Windows works in v50, so I've added the v50 tag to this post. Let me know if something breaks

[bright coral]

Everything seems to be working so far - Yipeee! ^^

My only gripe is that in v50 CelestestialTint stopped working as well as everything relying on LethalLevelLoader (quite a lot of stuff) ^^

[formal horizon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[fringe flicker]

Hello,
I need help to install CelestialTint
I have put the windowship mod, and the problem is that no matter what i do it stays foggy outside (like in the picture i sent, where i put 2 in the config file to have the black sky with stars)
The log files says that it couldn't find the skybox bundle ? It also does that when i remove the CelestialTint files, and I don't know what to do
Any help? 🙏

[rose vine]

Hello, @fringe flicker, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[fringe flicker]

ah

[dusty sorrel]

If you're on v50 there's likely still some issues with mods not being updated.

That log message btw is just looking for the optional 4k skybox, which is only meant to be used when you don't have celestial tint, so you can ignore it

[fringe flicker]

Oh..
I'll stay with that ugly fog until it gets updated? aw man
Well i'll be waiting then

Thank you

[dusty sorrel]

iirc I think lethal level loader was having issues? Not sure where things are, I haven't played in a bit

[fringe flicker]

but why isn't the black sky working then? Is the windowship itself having issues or am i doing things wrong

[empty moth]

I can't join online games with the shipwindows mod installed

these are all my active mods

[tribal chasm]

Are you trying to join vanilla lobbies?

[empty moth]

.... o

ill try that

[tribal chasm]

huh?

I was asking you a question

[empty moth]

ill try the vanilla setting

[tribal chasm]

Yeah there's a setting to join people that don't have the mod

[empty moth]

thank you

still unable to join,

let me disable all other mods

@tribal chasm doesnt work with vanilla mode with these mods

[tribal chasm]

disable LLL

not compatible with v50 yet

[empty moth]

oooooh. sad

thank you

problem fixed. i hope you have a good day. thank you a lot for your help

[tribal chasm]

np, have a good day too

[unique vault]

windows disappear sometimes

it happened only twice in the last month but it does happen

they disappear in orbit but upon landing they show back up

or its the opposite

[dusty sorrel]

That's weird. Honestly my handling of the unlockables is such a hack that I'm not surpised there are some rare edge cases

Do you have any mods like persistent unlockables or anything like that?

[raw granite]

what is the mode to have the rear camera of the ship on the left pls ?

[slender musk]

GeneralImprovements

[raw granite]

ty

[odd zealot]

toggle shutter doesnt do anything

why?

[dusty sorrel]

Any errors in console?

I'm aware the shutter spawns at first if you have no windows unlocked. That was a workaround to another issue I was having

Need to rewrite some things but low motivation

[bright coral]

Hi there!
I was wondering - since maybe there's a chance they got moved by ShipWindows - if there are any triggers/colliders that define the area where the scraps can be considered "dropped inside/marked to move along with the ship" ?

It's probably an issue of the base game but sometimes I get the feeling something gets dragged into orbit and it shouldn't have - and viceversa

Maybe it could be an idea for another mod but highlighting such volume at least temporarily and be able to automatically drag in nearby scraps that got clipped outside/below the ship could be useful?

[dusty sorrel]

There is a trigger specifically for "inside" that controls when you would get teleported back inside the ship. I'm not sure if the same trigger is used for other things though

I haven't messed with it, but mods that let you leave the ship in space will

[quaint tide]

idk if anyones said anything about this but is there a way to move the switch for the shutters above the light switch by default

cause rn imo its not really a good placement (i dont have window 1 on only 2/3 and i use that space for the storage)

if theres not thats my suggestion now

[formal horizon]

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[quaint tide]

why?

[drifting folio]

It wouldn't neccesarily have to be a part of this mod, but a mod that adds purchaseable flood lights would work well with this mod

[latent echo]

@dusty sorrel in the next celestial tint update i'm gonna rename the dll to CelestialTint instead of NightSkyPlugin

You can probably remove all the checks for NightSkyPlugin and only check for CelestialTint.dll

[dusty sorrel]

@latent echo I haven't been home to check yet, but did you only change the DLL name or did you also change the mod GUID?

[latent echo]

both

[dusty sorrel]

Alright just making sure. I'll have to change the dependency string on my side to match

[latent echo]

ok thank you!

[ocean dragon]

I’ve noticed that on the latest public LLL release, ShipWindows seems to not load at all, neither does the 4K Skybox. Is this an issue with LLL or SW?

[thorn shore]

Never had any issue with ship windows with the current LLL.

[dusty sorrel]

You seeing any errors in console?

I haven't changed anything except a super minor thing since v50 came out

[ocean dragon]

Just did some testing. Turns out it’s not an issue with LLL after all, and there’s no console errors at all regarding Ship Windows. It seems to be an issue with @trim skiff StarlancerWarehouse for whatever reason. When I remove StarlancerWarehouse the windows and skybox load in just fine, but as soon as it add the warehouse back into my modpack, the windows don’t load. That was the only change I made that either makes or breaks the pack depending on if it’s installed or not.

[trim skiff]

Something is apparently cursed with my Warehouse

I don't even do anything fancy with it ; w ;

[ocean dragon]

I’m thoroughly confused because I don’t understand why a moon interior would be interfering with the ship lol

[trim skiff]

same

it keeps me awake at night

[ocean dragon]

If there’s anything I can do to help troubleshoot and identify the issue lemme know. But I’m not seeing any errors or anything. The windows just don’t load with the warehouse installed. As soon as I remove that one package, they load like they should.

[trim skiff]

If I think of anything I will, but for now, this is my fight

[dusty sorrel]

Celestial Tint detection is restored in 2.0.6

[bright coral]

I'm getting the same exact issue - as soon as enable LLL and any interior, or even Celestial Tint, it bugs out and ShipWindows stops working (and other mods as well).
I'm still trying to avoid LLL for now until this reported issue gets fixed - even if I know I'm missing out T_T
(I miss the extra interiors in particular, T_T).

[toxic turtle]

hmm, i have these mods and its working just fine

[bright coral]

definitely not a Ship Windows issue, that's probably a side effect of having LLL with some other mod. and by some I mean one of ~160 others 😛 (besides, disabling LLL and dependants makes all runs smoothly. Well, start smoothly, I'm investigating some other issues these days)

[clear prairie]

I haven't had this issue at all

Are you using an incompatible mod like Lategame Upgrades or Lethal Things?

[ocean dragon]

I have LethalThings in my pack. Is it incompatible with LLL or SW?

[clear prairie]

It's incompatible with LLL

[ocean dragon]

Lemme test really quick and see if removing LT fixes the issue

[clear prairie]

@opal sparrow should be posting an update sometime in the next week or so

[tribal chasm]

I think you should stop telling people that as I literally tested it and it works fine

[clear prairie]

Batby has stated it's incompatible.

I think you should stop spreading misinformation just cus it works for you

[ocean dragon]

Removed LT, windows still don’t load. If I remove the one and only interior mod that I have, the windows load just fine.

[clear prairie]

That's strange

[tribal chasm]

I mean I don't have a special version of LT so why would mine be different

[clear prairie]

I mean maybe Batby added checks for it to work

Idk

[tribal chasm]

Also, didn't mean to sound rude btw, sorry if it sounded like that

[clear prairie]

I just trust that it can cause issues if it's been officially reported as incompatible

XD

[clear prairie]

What interior mod are you having issues with?

my list I have if it matters and I've had no problems

I had no issues with Starlancer's Warehouse either besides the missing apparatus and clock being broken

[ocean dragon]

StarlancerWarehouse. The only issue is that with it installed, the windows and skybox don’t load. Once I remove it they work just fine.

[clear prairie]

I mean it might be related to the same issue that breaks the clock tbh

With Celestial Tint disabled does the default Skybox load?

[ocean dragon]

I don’t have celestial tint in my pack. The skybox just doesn’t load at all. It’s pitch black.

[clear prairie]

Did you also reproduce this with ShipWindows 2.0.5?

[ocean dragon]

Yes

[clear prairie]

Ohhhh wait I have a theory as to why

In my pack I have ShipWindows set to make it vanilla which disables it's networking feature

try this

See if it fixes it

[ocean dragon]

I just tried my pack again, removing StarlancerWarehouse and adding CozyOffice and the windows load like they should. I’ll try again with the warehouse installed and windows on vanilla mode.

No luck.

[clear prairie]

Weird

[ocean dragon]

It seems like it’s specifically something to do with StarlancerWarehouse

[clear prairie]

It's weird I didn't have this issue last night though so I wanna guess something is causing an incompatibility

Let Starlancer cook and try and fix it though

[ocean dragon]

Yeah there’s not much else I can do at this point 🤷🏻‍♂️

[dusty sorrel]

Earlier I launched with LLL and Ship Windows and it seemed to work fine

Not sure what could be going on tbh

[trim skiff]

With Zaggy's help the clock issue is resolved, but there's an infinitesimally small chance that it could've affected anything to do with Ship Windows

[ocean dragon]

I don’t think it’s an issue with LLL tbh. I think it’s an issue with StarlancerWarehouse because I can load other interiors just fine and have the windows work properly.

[wise bridge]

When I tried to change the Tips poster with LethalPosters, it didn't change and remained the default, but other posters changed fine. Removing Ship Windows helped with the Tips Poster problem. Also DontMovePosters option set to true fixed issue.

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[latent echo]

idk if it fixed it

[formal horizon]

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[toxic turtle]

lastest updatet isnt on r2 yet

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[odd zealot]

still shutter toggle doesnt do anything, one session it worked, and then again stopped. what gives?

only when landing/getting off they shut, but toggle doesnt do anything

[toxic turtle]

is it possible to add a hole in the roof you can climb out from?

[molten apex]

@dusty sorrel Is there anyway you can make it so that the skybox effects from this mod override the skybox from celestial tint? This one is very pretty and animate

[desert mason]

agreed

celestial tint 's skybox is plain

@latent echo

[molten apex]

I love space 🤩

[rigid spindle]

ship windows creates a sky with a skybox,
but celestial tint creates a sky with shaders i think

so u need to override the shaders. i’ve requested sf desat a long time ago for that pretty space sky, but i think he just got busy and forgot

can’t blame him.. he’s got quite a few projects

[livid ledge]

Did they get rid of two of the windows, i cant tell if they were removed or i did smth wrong

[drifting folio]

Which two windows? The left window and the floor window need to be bought from the store

[livid ledge]

Oh?

The first time i played with the mod in a while they were both unlocjed

I assumed that was the norm until i made a new save

[drifting folio]

likely just modding shenanigans

If you look in the terminal's store both windows should be in the same section as ship horn, signal transmiter etc.

[gaunt tiger]

Its in the config to be able to have the windows automatically unlocked

[livid ledge]

Ic

[livid ledge]

Well that sucks, probably never gonna see em again because my team sucks 🙃

[livid ledge]

Ill probably enable it

[drifting folio]

The left window is 60 credits by default, IIRC, so you could buy it immediately if you wanted to. The floor window doesn't actually do much in terms of gameplay, so I usually skip buying it unless we have a surplus of cash. I totally understand if you'd prefer to have them on by default, though.

[livid ledge]

Yeah mainly because i like having true darkness from diversity on making a lot of my money go to flash lights

[drifting folio]

fair enough

[livid ledge]

Also did i mention my team sucks

[gaunt tiger]

do they suck so much that it takes the fun out of the game or what 😭

I have a modded vanilla style moon that costs 2500 and with the randomized groups I played with I've at least been able to get there on quota 3 or 4

[drifting folio]

I can't speak for him but it could be that they are playing with mods to increase difficulty (they already mentioned they are using diversity, for example)

[gaunt tiger]

great point

I don't use diversity's default true darknes value, it's borderline unplayable like that imo

I use it at like 0.6 and it's playable without a light but still really encourages having one

[toxic turtle]

for some reason the windows are not showing up anymore, no errors or anything

[craggy salmon]

this happens to me sometimes

[craggy salmon]

after restarting the lobby they come back for me

[dusty sorrel]

I'm stepping away from LC for the foreseeable future, so I've added the GPL 3 license to the repo if anyone would be interested in forking to continue the mod. I won't be doing any updates for a while

Needs a little work as evident by the issues posted

[clear prairie]

😦 Gonna miss you veri

@latent echo @sullen solar @opal sparrow maybe one of you might be interested in taking up on updating the project? I'm having a hard time thinking of others that might be

[opal sparrow]

soz this is a bit of a big project, i dont plan on taking it up

[fading agate]

we'll miss you veri!

thanks for everything <3

[rigid spindle]

thank you for your work, veri! 🙇‍♂️

[clear prairie]

Yeah you're all good, you're just one of the people I know that usually is interested in taking up stuff like this

c;

[sullen solar]

I'll have a look. Maybe I can pick it up 🙂

[sullen solar]

Welp... Thank you very much for creating such an awesome mod :3

[toxic turtle]

just to give an update on this it was PipeRemoval mod that caused ShipWindows not to work.

[clear prairie]

It makes it not work if you hide the posters, but that's probably cus the posters have some bugs atm

Cus it just unrenders then so it shouldn't be breaking the windows tbh

[dusty sorrel]

@sullen solar Here are the assets if you do want to mess with it

[rigid spindle]

TestAccount trying NOT to pick up more mod projects challenge (impossible)

bro is unstoppable

[sullen solar]

Wait... The shutter switch has 4 scripts attached to it? 😅

[sullen solar]

Oh, I didn't realise that there's so much needed for the shutter switch it to work xd

[dusty sorrel]

It's basically a copy of the light switch

[sullen solar]

Yeee

[dusty sorrel]

There's probably a better way of doing it tbh

[sullen solar]

I took the hard way of reconstructing it though 😅

[dusty sorrel]

Since when you build the asset bundle it pulls some of the deps like the "hand" icon from the ripped assets

So it looks a little different

I also kind of forgot you could load up a mod DLL in unity to use its components... So you'll see some backwards code that adds those on load

[sullen solar]

Oh no 😅

[dusty sorrel]

Just the actual windows and window spawners I think

[sullen solar]

I only did some reformatting so far...

I think it's time to actually read the code xd

[dusty sorrel]

[sullen solar]

Love that comparison xd

[dusty sorrel]

hehe

Let me know if you find something that doesn't make sense or anything, I'll try to remember why I did it that way

One thing that is sort of in a "band-aid" state is the shutter switch. I ended up just forcing it to spawn immediately where it's probably better to have it added to the unlockables initially and then only unlocked when you buy a window for the first time so it appears and disappears when the ship is reset

That whole bit could probably be made way less manual with LethalLib instead of what I did tho lol

[sullen solar]

Yeee, I'll have a look if I can come up with something better

I kinda want to prevent adding a new dependency 🤔

[opal sparrow]

god forbid people add LL to their modpack, along with LL, that they already had, because i dont believe they wouldnt have it to begin with

[sullen solar]

Huh? 😅

[opal sparrow]

most people would already have lethal lib is what im saying lol

[sullen solar]

Yeah, but it would look like an unecessary addidition, since the mod worked without it just fine so far 😅

[opal sparrow]

refusing to use API's because it used to work just fine before would likely cause bugs in te long run lol, but you're free to do it how ya want

[sullen solar]

Yeee, guess you're right 😅

But there are no bugs, if I call them features

[sullen solar]

Ummm... Should I be worried about the file size difference in your assetbundle vs mine? 😅

(Mine is the smaller one)

[dusty sorrel]

Is your unity project one from nom's patcher?

Only thing I can think of is some vanilla assets not being included

Which really they shouldn't be, but they came in as deps from the shutter switch

[sullen solar]

Ummmm... Oops? 😅

[dusty sorrel]

uh hmmmm

That might be it since the ship model still uses the vanilla texture which would have been packed in the bundle

[sullen solar]

Oh... That probably explains it 😅

[dusty sorrel]

Hmm

Not sure tbh, maybe since my unity project came from an ancient rip and is structured differently?

[sullen solar]

That's what it should say, right?

[dusty sorrel]

I can check when I get home later

[sullen solar]

That seems to be correct.

How's the floodlight material called though 😅

[dusty sorrel]

I think I yoinked that from one of the spotlights on top of the ship

[sullen solar]

So... I broke it quite a bit 😅

For some reason, the Mesh Renderer for the WindowSwitch object is disabled on spawn...

But it's literally enabled in the prefab 🤔

[clear prairie]

Lol seeing the buggy side of Ship Windows is interesting XD

[winged flower]

love the new features

[sullen solar]

Yes :3

[clear prairie]

Ikr

[sullen solar]

I just don't understand what I'm missing...

File size is still ~1.3MiB off

Great, now the whole shutter switch is invisible 😒

Veri, is it a problem that I deleted the old directory?

Okay... Right window = bottom window, got it

Actually...

Right window = Right window + hole in the middle of your ship

Left window = Left window + hole in the middle of your ship + hole on the right side of your ship

Floor window = Floor window + your whole ship is a hole

Great 🙂

(Sorry for abusing this channel for notes)

[dusty sorrel]

uhhh, not sure how that could happen

I never replaced the collision mesh for the ship, only the mesh renderer

so being able to jump through windows?

Actually, check the ShipInsideWith prefabs to see what the collision mesh points to

[sullen solar]

Some progress \o/

[dusty sorrel]

here's everything in the asset bundle

if you wanted to compare

[sullen solar]

I think I got the collisions to work now

Just need to fix that weird lighting 🤔

[sullen solar]

New shutter switch model

[clear prairie]

Looks a bit industrial for shutters but I like it

[sullen solar]

But definitely better than a light switch 😅

[clear prairie]

True, idk how I feel about the red color though

[sullen solar]

If you can find a better model, you can send it to me 😅

I sadly cannot blender :/

[clear prairie]

I never said the model was bad, just that the red color kind of stands out for the ship lol, is the color not able to be changed?

[sullen solar]

I mean... The cupboard is red too 🤔

[clear prairie]

Fair

I usually play with vanilla mode anyways lol, just so it's 1 less mod that's using networking

[sullen solar]

Not sure where the issue with that is, but sure xd

[clear prairie]

Probably nothing tbh lol I just set it up ages ago cus it used to cause corrupted DartBoards to spawn if LethalThings was used with it

[fading agate]

could be a bit simplified but peak honestly

maybe making the color the same as the other or a bit more grey could make it a bit better

[fading agate]

fair enough lmao

[rigid spindle]

i imagine a button would be used to open and close metal shutters

[sullen solar]

@dusty sorrel, I just released it on thunderstore:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/ShipWindows/

[clear prairie]

@latent echo you may also wanna push an update for Celestial Tint that updates the dependency to the new one

[chilly lake]

opsie

AYO

concept.

[sullen solar]

What the hell are you doing? xD

[dusty sorrel]

Dang that was pretty fast, I'll update the original tonight

[chilly lake]

having fun breaking the game

xd

[sullen solar]

Okay 😅

[chilly lake]

what the hell is this

i thought i was getting crazy

[sullen solar]

A new feature 🙂

[sullen solar]

Okay, jokes aside... This should be fixed in the latest version 😅

[chilly lake]

😅

cool switch btw

[sullen solar]

Thanks

[sullen solar]

Ooops

[compact dust]

I have a problem with your version of the mod @sullen solarwhen I start a new game on 1.1.0 you start bugging through the windows that don't yet exist. In 1.0.1 you can actually fall through them.

1.0.0 also fall through the "window"

[sullen solar]

Should be fixed in 1.1.1, thanks for the info

For some reason, the wrong mesh was used for the collider...

[fading agate]

so is the new upload on TS gonna be the new permanent one or are y'all still updatin the new one?

[opal sparrow]

new perm one

[fading agate]

cool

[sullen solar]

🤔

[rigid spindle]

what’s the mod for that loading screen? 😮

the pixel art one

[sullen solar]

TheCruelCompany

Love how there's no reaction to the test itself xd

[rigid spindle]

NO WAY BRO GOT SHIPWINDOWS WORKING!!! and a new shutter switch???
horizontal light switch!?

[sullen solar]

Ummm, ignore the horizontal light switch, please 😅

[sullen solar]

Gonna add that as optional sounds xd

[fading agate]

good ol wesley voiceline