Mirage

[ionic shoal]

XD, always the way

[deft cape]

haven't worked on it for the past couple months cuz of burnout

about to start working on it again though but i'm not really sure when it'll be done still

[amber grove]

Oh no worries, burnout is totally real

[obtuse burrow]

Using thunderstore mod manger, the mod doesn't appear in the edit config list?

[vestal pecan]

did you at least launch the pack once

[obtuse burrow]

oh yeah, that would be why

[deft cape]

Hello everyone,

I have unfortunate news regarding the v2 update. While @vast cobalt and I have gotten 99% of the work done and are incredibly close to releasing a beta test, the last 1% where we have to fix bugs and whatnot will likely take too much time for us to complete. The v2 update is officially coming to a halt.

I plan on going back to school to do my undergrad in computer science, which is where I'm putting all my time into. I've put a lot of thought on whether or not I should complete v2, and while I'd expect we can launch a beta test in a week or so, fixing all the bugs that come from the beta test would probably take a couple months at the very least. That's a couple months where I can spend time studying instead.

I'm sorry for anyone I've disappointed, especially after the promises I've made on delivering this update. It's quite sad to think about all the work oeis and I are throwing away by discontinuing this update, but I have to prioritize my studies over completing this promise.

Thank you to everyone who have been supportive with the development of Mirage. It's been a pleasure to been in this community, and I hope you all understand.

Does this mean there will be no updates henceforth?
I plan on doing one final update (not v2 of course). The next update will still use SileroVAD (originally for v2) which helps voice activity not pick up keyboard sounds. I will also be doing optimizations to reduce the # of allocated objects for garbage collection purposes, as well as rehauling the config a tiny bit (like generating monsters at runtime to future proof the mod, in order to not need to update the mod every time the game updates).
After this update, I will only be updating the mod if a critical issue/bug comes up.

[light jacinth]

thank you for the mod. it’s made for a lot of great moments and memories with friends. 🫡

[solemn ridge]

I mean it's not going anywhere at least and funny moments will always continue to happen lol

[light jacinth]

just wanted to express appreciation for barch’s work
all these mods are made on their own time with no reward or incentive
hope people will recognize that

[solemn ridge]

Ye fair, it just came off like you were saying the mod was dying which isn't the case XD

[deft cape]

nah it came off as a supportive message to me for sure, all good 😂

i appreciate the kind words

[solemn ridge]

Prolly my Autism XD

[deft cape]

u good 😂

[deft cape]

@lofty sorrel do u mind pinning this 🥺 jeb dead

[deft cape]

tyty

[solemn ridge]

jeb has been dead for a few days unfortunately

[lofty sorrel]

Damon is away so Jeb is abandoned till he gets back

[solemn ridge]

Rip

How dare Damon forget to feed Jeb before his break

lol

🤭

[lofty sorrel]

Good luck with University, it ruined me!

[light jacinth]

i hope people will maturely handle this news though.
like i heard about chaos getting threats just for being on hiatus.

[solemn ridge]

Did you finally finish it?

[deft cape]

thanks, i hope i survive it lmaoo

[lofty sorrel]

Uni? I've been done w Uni since last September

[deft cape]

wtf people are crazy... never knew chaos was getting threats like that

[solemn ridge]

Ah well you went MIA for so long idk what you've been busy with, btw didn't you say you'd return for Deep Rock Galactic?

[deft cape]

projects like this are passion projects, so ppl who act like that makes no sense

[solemn ridge]

Cus I made a role for that I got it yesterday

[lofty sorrel]

I did, though I have your server muted tbh. Just been feeling LC burnout

[light jacinth]

yeahh.. some people feel way too entitled

[solemn ridge]

Yeah thart's fair, I just wanted to let you know since I don't know if I can dm you or not

XD

Got it as a Birthday gift

[lofty sorrel]

Course you can DM

I've been feeling DRG recently

[solemn ridge]

I'm excited to play LC tomorrow though, return of Diversity and so many moons updating makes me excited, some of my alters have also been feeling some burn out lol

[solemn ridge]

Yeah idk who was threatening him but that is some bs

Chaos is a good dude he just gets really busy iRL

[lofty sorrel]

Usually younger folks with a hyperfixation. Frustration is one thing, taking it out on the creator is another. I imagine Mirage fans won't be upset, at least not here, can't speak to other Internet areas (Looking at you Reddit)

[deft cape]

the people in this discord have been very respectful (at least like 99.99% of the time)

[light jacinth]

i mean v2 talk was mostly just on this thread right?

[deft cape]

yeah and the only people who mentioned it are cool, so it's probably gonna be taken fine

was just sad that i'd end up disappointing everyone tbh

but

[solemn ridge]

Yeah and sometimes it was brought up on my streams so there will be mentions of it in some of our vods

[deft cape]

i gotta do what i gotta do for my career

[deft cape]

they're already sentient

[solemn ridge]

I don't think you disappointed anyone

[lofty sorrel]

Mirage as it is does what people expect and does it well, so it should all be good

[solemn ridge]

Exactly

[deft cape]

hopefully the next update doesn't break too much lmaoo

which i forgot to mention, will probably take like 2 weeks

[solemn ridge]

I mean it's mostly an optimization update and adding some stuff to prevent keyboard sounds

Currently I use DissonanceVoiceSettings to get rid of that

[light jacinth]

yeah my keyboard gets picked up a lot so this would be great

[deft cape]

well ima be rewriting a bunch of stuff

but

it's not gonna take too much time for this

just gotta make sure i dont screw it up is all

and end up creating more problems

realistically shouldn't be a problem

[lofty sorrel]

Pray to the programming gods

[wicked sorrel]

is the existing work for v2 on the github? if so, someone may eventually ask you if they can pick it up in your stead

[quasi narwhal]

We love bugs!!!1!

[ionic shoal]

qwbarch, what audio object (or audio source?), does mirage play the audio on for the masked.

something im working on requires to tell what object is being used so i can know if its being used, if thats possible.. probably not explaining well.

[deft cape]

oh right ill do that as well, ill think about what i should do to expose an interface for you

[deft cape]

it is, but it's rather complicated and a lot of it is undocumented

[ionic shoal]

oh sorry, i wasnt meaning like that! but glad you remembered!

i was meaning, with mirage, i see various objects added to the masked.

is a specific one playing their audio? so i can monitor a bool on it?

I was working on a nameplate solution for the masked, and also working on a solution for nameplate tweaks's nameplate as well which has a speaker appear when players talk.

but.. i was thinking of how to trigger it, i guess i could do that by using the same thing for playing audio through the walkies once you added it.. but i figured if i knew the ingame audio source for the masked, then i could just be like "that audio source is making noise, so show the voice is active in their nameplate".

is it just (found this in EnemyAI) "public AudioSource creatureVoice;" used? or you setup your own? is what im asking i guess.

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal so for mirage it's a custom component that i made, i don't remember what it was though so i'd have to get back to you on that later

but regardless i'm assuming you still need me to have an exposed interface for you to do the walkie talkie thing, so if that's still need i'll get to it as well in the next update

[ionic shoal]

no rush, and yeah, i figure its a custom addition, just didnt look into it too deeply.. i just noticed that enemy AI has its own "creaturevoice".. so wondered if that was used. np

[onyx summit]

Hold up are you guys making a way for mimics to use walkies?!?!

[deft cape]

virus is doing something like that yeah, for #1240985198485573743

[amber grove]

Wait. Does the filtering only affect mimic clips? Or does it apply to standard chatting amongst your friends too?

If it only affects mimics that sounds like it’d be pretty easy to figure out who’s real and not real

[deft cape]

only for the clips

but i mean

it's just to get it to use more clips of you actually talking

instead of 90% of them being empty

cuz if ur on voice activity it works terribly rn

[amber grove]

Oh wait I may have misunderstood this

So it isnt doing any kind of noise filtering/processing on the clips itself, like removing background noise

It’s using it to find speech and then clipping those segments

Is that correct? So to word it better, it’s not doing any post-processing, right?

[deft cape]

yeah no post-processing

basically just to make voice activity work better

push to talk will remain the same

[ionic shoal]

masked in my mod should already be able to use walkies... BUT...

only coded in for skinwalkers/wendigos atm (as waiting on qwbarch to give me access to the clips)
and masked are kinda busted when it comes to picking up walkies 😛 so i need to fix that.

[quaint leaf]

Masked walked right through the closed ship door

[hollow violet]

On March?

[quaint leaf]

Yeah, I think so

[hollow violet]

Iirc, thats a vanilla bug. Masked don’t spawn there naturally.

[analog viper]

Yeah that's a known vanilla issue

[quaint leaf]

Is there any mod that fixes it?

[gaunt grotto]

not yet

[hollow violet]

It should be fixed at some point. But I think everyone experiencing it at least once has a lot of funny factor going for it.

[analog viper]

Well it's a bug that comes from vanilla but technically only exists because mods add mimics where they should never be aka March

Still funny tho

[ionic shoal]

imho, its baffling how masked walk through, but other entities dont, you would think it would be all or none if it was a "door" issue xD

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal what did u specifically need for the walkie talkie thing again?

a method to grab a float[] containing the audio data, and a method for playing it?

[ionic shoal]

erm, all i know is skinwalkers provides and audio clip. i dont even know if that works tbh xD

[deft cape]

so a getPlayerVoiceClip() that returns AudioClip would work fine?
and a Mimic.PlayVoiceClip(AudioClip audioClip) is fine as well?

@ionic shoal pinging just in case u miss the msg

[ionic shoal]

afaik, as i said, never actually tested the skin walkers implementation, i just assume it works, so if its the same, should be all good.

[deft cape]

well lmk what exactly you'd prefer then cuz idk how it works exactly either 😛

if you have a specific way you want me to expose the interface then lmk

cuz otherwise i don't really know what you'd need

[ionic shoal]

ill have a look at it in a bit, tbh, kinda drifted away from it a while, so need to get masked to pick up the walkie talkie and see if skin walkers works, lol

[deft cape]

gotcha lmk

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal btw do you think it'd be something you'd look into something soon? just wondering cuz i'd prefer doing any interfacing stuff u need for the next update i'm gonna push out

since after that i'm gonna be focusing on school

[oblique galleon]

School schmool

Just be better and take the exam today

Which exam? The good exam

[deft cape]

[buoyant jacinth]

Wish I had such option lol

I'd rather show C1 or C2 certificate for English rather than "YOU GOTTA GO ON LESSONS AND DO HOMEWORK EVEN THO IT'S LITERALLY A1"

[ionic shoal]

I was trying to look at it all weekend, but I came across a bug that needed fixing, which led to me finding another bug that needed fixing urgently which I'm now struggling to fix..I'll put that on hold as frankly, it's taking forever and look at masked using walkies.

[ionic shoal]

ok, so.. this simplified code plays skinwalkers audio, through walkie talkies, whether they are on/off.. (incase you wanted to test) so i can confirm the skinwalkers implementation works, so if you can get the output of your function to be the audio clip mirage is playing, then it should work.

thanks

public List<WalkieTalkie> allWalkieTalkies = new List<WalkieTalkie>();

foreach (WalkieTalkie allWalkieTalky in allWalkieTalkies) { allWalkieTalky.target.PlayOneShot(SkinwalkerModPersistent.Instance.GetSample()); }

[tepid condor]

When a 3rd voice comes on the walks bc you also have abandoned company on

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[wild sonnet]

@deft cape has anything been done that you wanted to do in version 2.0.0?

[deft cape]

well 99% of the work is already done, but the last 1% would be a bunch of bugfixes and whatnot that i don't want to work on anymore

[deft cape]

ah sounds good, the interface that i expose to you will definitely have to look a bit different so i'll go work on that and then let you know how to use it

[ionic shoal]

sounds good, and i figured it would due to the syncing

[light jacinth]

yeah it wouldn’t be easy for someone else to pick up ur project right? considering u programmed it in a functional language that’s not commonly used and all iirc?

what was that language again

[viral obsidian]

F#

Technically not functional but is basically considered functional anyway

[deft cape]

it's about as functional as javascript 😂

it's a multiparadigm language

it's more-so not easy to pick up because the codebase for the ML stuff isn't documented too well

[viral obsidian]

from what I've seen, it encourages it way more

[deft cape]

well it definitely does but i wouldn't really consider it functional either

[deft cape]

also a lot of edgecases and bugs where i only know about because i ran into them myself, and didn't even end up fixing everything

i just have no motivation to work on it anymore so yeah

[viral obsidian]

understandable

[light jacinth]

real

a decade ago i was supposed to release this minecraft plug-in and made big promises

and i never finished and released it

[deft cape]

so relatable 😂

[viral obsidian]

I went through a similar phase with my mod and I'm only mainintaining it because I don't want a shoddy mod out there with my name when I know I can fix it

no pressure ofc, if you can't then don't

[wild sonnet]

good luck, we believe in you

[deft cape]

part of me wanted to finish it cuz of all the work oeis and i put into v2, although after thinking about it some more, we'd rather work on other things since working on mirage doesn't really do anything for us

so since there aren't really any incentives to work on it i'd rather focus on my studies

[light jacinth]

no man it’s joever 😔

[deft cape]

yea i've dropped it

check the pinned message regarding it

or click here actually: #1200695291972685926 message

[wild sonnet]

It's a pity, I understand you, studying is more important than the project

[deft cape]

man i even ordered a custom icon from chaos' graphic designer friend for v2 LOL

gonna just use it on the next update just to not waste it

[wild sonnet]

this is cool

Why did you release the same mod with the addition of experimental?

I just went to look at mods and saw your experimental mod. It's gone now.

[deft cape]

just ignore experimental

[spring laurel]

On another note, have you though about letting someone else wrap up V2? From the sounds of it it doesn't need much more work

[finite lichen]

This mod is just pure comedy gold. The mimicking part is really scary when it records you giggle or laugh and the mimics just either laugh,
giggle or scream like idiots chasing you (literally sounds that would be suitable for a chainsaw psycho).
And then there's me and my fellas either quoting either the most dumb stuff from movies and stuff, or straight up some unhinged things,
mimics chasing us asking if we have any books written by black people, why we want to invade cuba, or where we hid the meth.

[finite lichen]

What interior is that?

[clever knot]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AudioKnight/StarlancerWarehouse/

[finite lichen]

Thanks

[buoyant jacinth]

What's that

[tepid condor]

Find very old versions of tools from the store
Usually low power left in them making it seem like others came before you did

[buoyant jacinth]

Fair

You just said about 3rd voice

I hoped it will be random fun one

[tepid condor]

If this mirage makes it so mask can pick up walkys and use them, they could use abandoned walkys and use them too

That's what I was referring to lol

[buoyant jacinth]

Ah

I think some mod did it already...

Haunted girl can speak into it for sure

[timber notch]

Dang, disappointed to see that V2 will never come to fruition— my bf and I were even talking about it the other day. I totally get why though; life takes priority!

Have you thought about releasing what you do have, just so the majority of that work isn’t for naught? You could post it, and be clear that it has several bugs yet won’t be receiving any active support/fixes. You could even name it a synonym for Mirage (Phantasm?) so reports/discussion don’t get wires crossed.

[deft cape]

sadly a lot of the issues has to do with hardware. things work on my side, but as soon as the parameters slightly don't fit for someone's hardware, the mod can cause the game to crash really easily

without fixing these bugs it's just really not a good idea to release it at all

[timber notch]

Ahhhh

The best kind of issues to have

Ones you can’t replicate yourself

[deft cape]

yeah and in this case hardware actually matters since it depends on what gpu the player has

[timber notch]

Yeah

[deft cape]

it is what it is, spent a lot of time working on it, but i also don't want to work on it anymore since i'd rather focus on school

so i don't even mind having all that time wasted

[timber notch]

I imagine you learned a lot from it

[deft cape]

still doing one final update with most of the v2 code gone and just keeping the code optimizations and whatnot

[solemn ridge]

I've been being your bug tester

[deft cape]

not really actually, the stuff i worked on in this mod are things i already knew how to do 😭

[deft cape]

❤️

[timber notch]

Oooooof

[solemn ridge]

Oni spawning on Pinnacle go brrrr

XD

[deft cape]

i still gotta test that later

just havent gotten to it yet

[solemn ridge]

Haha

[solemn ridge]

The upcoming update is worth it at least outside of the bugs I've been helping find

It removes all the F# Garbage Collection the current release has so it's quite a bit more optimized

[tawdry bough]

Did ya ever settle on a new default spawn chance? I think I remember you asking if anyone had something good yea?

[deft cape]

yeah i have it set to 2%

[timber notch]

Oh for sure. I can just (unfortunately) relate to putting a lot of time and effort into a project, with most of the work completed, only for it to never see the light of day due to outside reasons.

[solemn ridge]

2%?

I said I used 25% lol

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I get ya

[deft cape]

i hardcoded it to 25% for experimental so u could play with it

but i hvae it set to 2% in the config

[solemn ridge]

Oh lol

Got ya

[deft cape]

honestly it's a thought ive had for quite some time as i started to get burnt out on the project

since i stopped enjoying working on it

a lot of the times i was just wondering what i was working on it for

decided calling it quits is just better for my mental health

• i get so much free time to study now

what made me keep working on it for as long as i had was cuz i wanted a working product that ppl could enjoy but

yeah not worth my mental health trying to finish the last 1% of the project 😂

[timber notch]

Yeah for sure

Hopefully you can find some way to make some use out of it someday, whether it be private play sessions or even a little video about it like was done with Wendigo’s Voice Cloning.

[deft cape]

the only clip i had was when it was in the earlier stages, except i already deleted it 😔

never had private play sessions since it was just oeis and i testing

just getting it to the point where it was stable on our pcs

[solemn ridge]

My main concern with V2 the whole time was how it was gonna work on certain hardware lol

Cus you mentioned hardware limitations a lot

[deft cape]

the goal was basically to have the host do all the gpu crunching if any client isn't able to do it themselves

but when i was testing gpus with certain configs it could just crash

i guess i did learn something at the end: if i end up making another project that uses cuda, i should figure out any of the hardware stuff first

so i don't end up getting all the features done but get stuck by nonsense like that

[solemn ridge]

Yeah ^^

[ionic shoal]

so, just a little update,

got masked actually picking up walkies, we know the audio works (via skinwalkers at least), going to have to put some limits on it (2+ walkies exist (may eventually generate a second walkie if only one exists), 2+ players in the game exist) but i think they make sense, otherwise, once your end is ready, hopefully should work fine out of the box.

[deft cape]

sounds good, ill let you know when i have something that you can use

[slow carbon]

...is this the place where I could ask about some issues caused by the Mirage mod? or is there a more appropriate channel/website

[thick plank]

Here is the correct place

Or in #help-and-troubleshooting

[slow carbon]

Oh, thanks for telling me

I managed to solve it right about now

I'm... still not entirely sure how

but it does work

[thick plank]

Nice

[deft cape]

definitely better to ask about mod problems in the mod channel directly

@ionic shoal i just realized, walky talkies can only be heard by one person anyways, so if i just expose a method that lets you grab an AudioClip of the given player (automatically networked for you), that should be good enough and youj ust play the audioclip the same way you normally do right?

[ionic shoal]

the same clip as which mirage is currently playing? as it should be the same clip right? ;o and yeah, the only time "more than one person can hear" per walkie, is with "everyone can hear walkies" mod or w/e

[deft cape]

oh it's supposed to be the same clip? i was assuming i could just give you a random clip from the player it's mimicking

could definitely do that though if that's what you want

[ionic shoal]

well, i was just assuming it would be the same clip because mirage is all synced.

[deft cape]

well it's synced in the sense that everyone hears the same voice when it's playing a voice

[ionic shoal]

also, the clip is played out loud by the masked at the same time, so figured it would be xD

[deft cape]

i was just assuming the walkie tallkie would work differently

since it seems like your mod wants to control the timings of when to play voices

[ionic shoal]

my thought was.. masked is speaking it out loud...

all the walkie talkie bit does, is play it over the walkies.

[deft cape]

ah well we could certainly go that route

[ionic shoal]

well i thought timings are required, but i feel like, it just stops playing when the recording ends.. but if i could also get the timing of how often the masked play a clip, that might be good, then i can set the walkie to play that often too.

i d k, probably a lot on my end that needs reworking regarding it, first time ive truly looked at it, but my thoughts were.. if what your exposing = a null clip, then it doesnt play.. if its not null, then it would play.. but i have no clue if that would work.

even if not all messages are sent via the walkie though, i think thats actually good, as no one speaks constantly on a walkie talkie non-stop... so 1 message thats live + walkie, next 3 are just live, then live+walkie, its just as good as all going through the walkie, but thats all for me to work out when i have a solid thing to work with..

ngl, never used skin walkers before trying to get this working.. and not liking it xD

[deft cape]

even if not all messages are sent via the walkie though, i think thats actually good, as no one speaks constantly on a walkie talkie non-stop... so 1 message thats live + walkie, next 3 are just live, then live+walkie, its just as good as all going through the walkie, but thats all for me to work out when i have a solid thing to work with..
that's the thing, if it played in the usual interval that's set by mirage, it'd be way too obvious

it's better to control the timings on your end IMO

and for that what i'd expose is

a function AudioClip getVoiceClip(int playerId), where it just grabs a random voice clip from that specific player (which is sent over the network and handled by mirage so you won't have to worry about that), and then you can do the PlayOneShot(voiceclip) call (i think that's what you previously showed at least)

at least that's the simplest way i can think of to let you use that functionality

and give you full control of when voices are played

[ionic shoal]

yeah thats fine, thats what i meant, i just figured that the clip wont be random. the voice would be played out loud anyway, so i figured the same clip could be passed on to something exposed for me to use.

whether i use all of them or not would of course be controlled by my mod, just figure that the clip should be the same one people hear in person... otherwise the same masked could be saying XYZ to person A, who also has a walkie.. and then the walkie plays something different, that isnt heard in person, even though the masked is also standing there in person. so yeah, i just figured it would be the same clip on walkie and in person.

my mod would just control WHEN the exposed clip is played through the walkie. (ie, not all of them)

[deft cape]

in that case it sounds like it makes more sense to do the getVoiceClip way where it just gives you a random voice clip

since it gives you full control

[ionic shoal]

so.. masked with a walkie...

person A is in front of them, they say "im a goober" to them
person B is miles away.. can only hear by walkie and hears at the same time "im a ninny"
person C is in front of them, but also has a walkie, and hears both phrases at once ("im a goober" in person, and "im a ninny" over the walkie, from the same masked?

the way the skin walkers one works.. i think.. is that.. sure the clip chosen, is random for each person listening, but, both over walkie, and in person, its the same clip heard.

[deft cape]

if a masked is near you and speaks into the walkie at the same time, that's already a dead giveaway anyways

i mean if you want that specifically then i can do that as well

i just thought what i mentioned makes the most sense

[eternal bridge]

idea

make masked go super saiyan

[ionic shoal]

depends what they say, but, if they speak over the walkie.. it isnt nessecerily a giveaway imho, i just feel it makes sense as if they are speaking 2 different phrases at once, then its a dead give away.. but if the same thing is heard over the walkie, like in person, then its more realistic.. as you dont catch one person saying 2 different phrases in the same second via two methods.

[deft cape]

the best i can do for that is to keep the last used voice clip in memory, but it'd never play at the same time

since i stream it over the network and play it as soon as even a single frame of audio is received

at least if a full audio clip is required before sending it over

i could add an event type of thing where after the full audioclip is received, i'll run that event where you can subscribe to it

actually unless you're able to do something like

setting a new AudioClip to the walkie talkie's AudioSource and then using Play() instead of PlayOneShot()

then it could potentially be in sync

since that's how i play the audio clip without it fully being ready yet

so i guess something for this would be like:

OnVoicePlayed(audioClip => {
  walkieTalkie.AudioSource.audioClip = audioClip;
  walkieTalkie.AudioSource.Play();
});

(pseudocode cuz idk what it'd look like in c#)

[ionic shoal]

so i guess you would mean like

if(Plugin.mirageIntegrated)
{
     allWalkieTalky.target.audioClip = mirageAudioClip;
     allWalkieTalky.target.Play();
}

id have to look into the rest, but i think its doable. i think tbh, ill be in a better place to comment once i have something to test with, but for now i need to sleep so will come back to this conversation tomorrow 🙂

[ionic shoal]

i think tbh actually, it would be basically the same as your psuedo code in C#, if im thinking rightly. ;o

[deft cape]

well the OnVoicePlayed method is a callback that you register once so that every time audio is played, you can play it on ur side as well

[buoyant jacinth]

How would i make mimics also use emotes from mods like badasscompany?

[deft cape]

emote mods handle that

mirage doesn't do anything for that at all

so any mod that auto performs emotes, it's all handled by them

[buoyant jacinth]

Curious

[analog viper]

If you want mimics to emote the only one I know for sure works is toomanyemotes

[buoyant jacinth]

Yeah fair

It's just that ppl started spamming badasscompany emotes to show they're not mimics

[deft cape]

prob best to ask the author to integrate that

[tall egret]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/EnemyInteractions/

enemies can emote already. I made this mod to show it off mainly so it's not "reactive" like TME hadnles it (aka: mimics emote when they see you. what I made just plays them on random timers)

but ya know, if someone wanted to make a mod to make enemies (mainly masked from your use case) emote reactively, most of the work is done, you just need to program the logic for how and when enemies will emote

[buoyant jacinth]

Sounds like fun but unsure if I'll have enough time to properly do it xd

[buoyant jacinth]

And this one seems to work only on when they kill you xd

[tall egret]

it's both when they kill you and on a random timer, check the config

[buoyant jacinth]

Ah, thanks, will have a look some time soon xd

[finite lichen]

Diversity does that. But that doesn't involve her picking it up directly, only when you have it on you and it's turned on

[buoyant jacinth]

Actually - I did not encounter her in the past several days, not a single time she was on me xd

And i do have diversity xd

[buoyant jacinth]

I wonder if you can make random emotes only for mimic for example but emote on corpse for everyone xd

Also they kinda uhh... Not really using emotes for long enough i'd say for some reason

[deft cape]

LOL i thought the other dude was a masked as well

just remembered i forgot to look at the clip so i went back to find it

[spring laurel]

Yeah even I wasnt sure lmao

[deft cape]

so funny how they were just chilling next to each other for awhile

[spring laurel]

It looked even more convincing from their perspective because the masked was gently nodding to the beat

[quaint leaf]

What does the experimental version change?

[solemn ridge]

WIP build of the upcoming update barch mentioned when he said he would have to be abandoning V2, I would recommend staying on the stable build

I've been helping barch test it on my recent streams lol, gonna be testing it again later today if you wanna see progress lol

Yesterday the recording stuff didn't work at all XD

[quaint leaf]

Awwww, no more v2?

[solemn ridge]

Check his statement

It was pinned

[quaint leaf]

Ah, I see

Glad it's not permanently cancelled

[solemn ridge]

V2 is cancelled, what's coming now is an update for V1 that brings all the optimization stuff

[quaint leaf]

Still happy it's getting updates

[tepid condor]

Sad, was hoping to tell a mask "balls itch" just for him to say "scratch em"

[ionic shoal]

cool, well, as i said, ill have to look at implementing that when ive got an example to work with, i get what you mean though. 🙂

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal so there's a bit of a problem. since AudioClips are mutable, i can't just share the same reference to you or we'd run into issues. if i were to create a new audioclip for each registered event listener, i'd have to keep track of that state and it'd start to get annoying.
in this case it might be better if i just send you the raw audio samples and you create the audioclip on your side. if this is something you're open to exploring then i can fill you in on what to do to use it (creating the audioclip on your end and whatnot)

[slate tusk]

Hi all, what do I do if I have mimics spawning with 100 probability?
I have MoreCompany. I tried disabling it, but the problem persisted

I play with 3 frends and everytime we find 4-6 mimics, we don't change configs.
Also, mimics always go through the fences and reach for the base, thus it's impossible to fly off the platnet

[ionic shoal]

so basically, id be re-doing what your doing to play the audio for the masked? that would be fine as long as its not performance heavy, my mod is already a bit on the heavy side xD

I was having a think on this... audio source's have an id.. is it possible for me to, when the audio source for your mod makes a noise.. i detect that.. and play that noise over the walkie? not sure that would work.. just.... thoughts of a person with no clue 🙂

[ionic shoal]

more company does not modify entity spawn rates.

the better question is "what mod do you have that sets the spawn rate as 100 probability?"

[deft cape]

mirage has custom spawns

[deft cape]

you can disable custom spawns if you want

or just lower it

[ionic shoal]

i know, but the default is not 100%.

[deft cape]

the default is set to basically always spawn every round

[ionic shoal]

also dont you limit to 2 masked?

[deft cape]

yeah

but a lot of ppl dont like that

gonna be changing the defaults later

[ionic shoal]

thats fair.

[slate tusk]

i dont customize spawn

[deft cape]

I was having a think on this... audio source's have an id.. is it possible for me to, when the audio source for your mod makes a noise.. i detect that.. and play that noise over the walkie?
i'm not sure since i'm not that familiar with unity sadly

[deft cape]

i'm just saying it's set to a custom spawn on mirage by default, you'd have to disable it if you don't want it

[ionic shoal]

do you have a mod list code you can send me from thunderstore/whatever mod manager you use so i can look at your configs?

[ionic shoal]

maybe ill try it with some other audio sound in game, and see if i can get it to play over audio 🙂

[deft cape]

sounds good, should i hold off on doing any interfacing stuff for now then

[slate tusk]

I can ship in a few hours

[ionic shoal]

i was going to jump off and do other things for the rest of the evening (agent pathing is killing my brain)

but, i will try do the audio check now.. and let you know as that should be simple once i find a sound.. maybe even my own voice, as that will be representative.

[deft cape]

sounds good

[ionic shoal]

well, ill have a look if im around when you send it, otherwise hopefully someone else can, or i can tomorrow.

[oblique galleon]

if you're talking about the ID in the base game's interface thing, thats not the audioclip ID, that's just the item ID

[ionic shoal]

i know, as i said, im just wondering if i can detect that source is being used, and then somehow re-play that into the walkies.

[deft cape]

so for this i just wanted to show some pseudocode of what it might look like:

var audioClip = null;
OnVoiceMimic += (isFirstFrame, samples, sampleIndex) => {
    // only reset the audioclip if it's a new voice clip (indicated by isFirstFrame)
    if (isFirstFrame) {
        walkieTalkie.AudioSource.Stop();
        audioClip = AudioClip.Create(); // assume params are filled
        walkieTalkie.AudioSource.AudioClip = audioClip;
    }
    // since this callback is invoked each time a new frame is received, this will set the audioclip's audio data
    // as soon as new audio data is received
    audioClip.SetData(samples, sampleIndex, samples.Length);
    // doesn't need to be this exact condition, just have to play the audiosource if it hasn't started yet
    if (!walkieTalkie.AudioSource.IsPlaying()) {
        walkieTalkie.AudioSource.Play();
    }
};

basically on your end you'd create a new audioclip every time a new "first frame" is received, and set the frame data as soon as another frame comes in

and just play the audio source if it hasn't started yet

if this is an option you're open to taking then id rather just get started on it now cuz

looking to get the mirage update out soon so i can just focus on studies

[ionic shoal]

that all makes sense, that should be easy to implement.

i will just when i actually implement my end, work out how to limit which clips get played so not everything goes through the walkie.

[deft cape]

awesome, that should be simple enough on my part as well since i wouldn't have to do the state tracking myself so i should have something by the end of the day

[ionic shoal]

cool!

[deft cape]

yeee sounds good

[ionic shoal]

loooking at what i was looking at just now, i think it goes along similar lines of what i was just looking at tbh.

[deft cape]

ah nice

i might as well just start workign on that now then

[ionic shoal]

quick question, once this has been called once, will it bypass the conditions that lead to it reaching that point?

for example.. "if they are holding a walkie" OnVoiceMimic is called.. the clip starts playing, the condition then changes to false because the masked dropped the walkie for example, am i better to put this condition in the callback, or am i ok to put it outside the callback (which is where the conditions currently are)

[deft cape]

you'd have to do any conditions within the callback itself

since you should only be registering to the event once

[ionic shoal]

ok, thats what i figured.

[deft cape]

or do it outside cuz

you can always for example

do conditional checks inside an Update() method

and stop the audiosource there

the main thing for the event listener should be to create the audioclip and set the frame data every time it's received

[ionic shoal]

that might be simpler as thats how the structure is now.

[deft cape]

yeah

can probably stick to that then

[ionic shoal]

yeah, was just trying to implement it in the same way as im doing for skinwalkers/wendigos, but i was realising i cant do it outside the callback in the same way. either way, as i said, ill work out something once your end is done 🙂 thanks

[deft cape]

yep for sure

out of curiosity, does anyone here even use the SpawnOnPlayerDeath feature? i haven't added that to the latest update yet, and if it's not something ppl really even use, i might just leave it out

[ionic shoal]

yes

[analog viper]

I do use the spawn on player death option. It's led to some really hilarious moments in my sessions with friends.

[proper path]

I love that setting. I have it set so it is rarer, but it happens. if nothing else it makes things more dangerous

[deft cape]

ah sounds good i'll add it back then

will probably just make it into a separate mod since a lot of ppl dont like it

[ionic shoal]

people could just, not use if they dont like it xD

[eternal bridge]

spawn on player death is really cool when you think about it

like

say your friend goes in alone to get something or do something and dies, comes back with the item or just comes back and they aren't them

[deft cape]

thats a reason why i like it personally

[deft cape]

yeah you'd think, but i've had people get mad at me for it existing in the mod 💀

tons of people requesting to have it separated into a different mod in the past

[ionic shoal]

well if its default off, i dont get why they would complain xD thats just weird. xD

[deft cape]

it's on actually, although i toned it down quite a bit

but yeah i'd get complaints about custom spawns and whatnot as well

although for that idc, i'm keeping it on as a default

[analog viper]

Rather than making it separate you could just set it to off by defaul in the settings.

*default

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal so i added the stuff that should let you use what we discussed, you'll want to download MirageExperimental v0.0.24 for now to reference it, at least until an official version is released

i might have some syntax wrong since i asked chatgpt to translate some of the f# stuff to c#, but this should be more or less how to use it:```csharp
// Firstly, each EnemyAI will have an AudioStream component attached to it. This is used for handling networked audio.
var audioStream = enemyAI.GetComponent<AudioStream>();

// In order to know when a new audio clip is created and streamed over, we will be subscribing to "AudioStreamEvent"s.
public void OnAudioStreamHandler(AudioStreamEvent audioEvent)
{
switch (audioEvent)
{
case AudioStartEvent startEvent:
walkieTalkie.AudioSource.Stop();
walkieTalkie.AudioSource.clip = AudioClip.Create("<use any name you want here>", startEvent.lengthSamples, startEvent.channels, startEvent.frequency);
break;
case AudioReceivedEvent receivedEvent:
audioClip.SetData(receivedEvent.samples, sampleIndex);
if (!walkieTalkie.AudioSource.IsPlaying())
{
walkieTalkie.AudioSource.Play();
}
break;
}
}

// Subscribe to the event.
audioStream.OnAudioStream += OnAudioStreamHandler;

[deft cape]

yeah i was considering that but i just want it on by default if someone installed the mod, so might as well just separate it

was considering moving the spawn control code as well but

seems to make enough sense to keep it in the mod itself

just don't wanna clutter the mod with too many configs

[ionic shoal]

will look at it tomorrow, thanks

[deft cape]

actually just noticed this: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Synaxin/Zombies/

has anyone here tried it?

if it replaces the SpawnOnPlayerDeath functionality then i dont need to add it back in

[sturdy python]

I think it's relatively the same just with a configurable timer before revival (and some other features such as proximity revivals it looks like)

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1281615514325487669

[deft cape]

nice doesnt seem like i need to port that feature over to the new version then

[solemn ridge]

Noice, ||so you don't need to make the seperate mod after all|| :3

[deft cape]

yepp less work for me :D

[torpid pecan]

I'd be curious to know that this mod works correctly with mirage so the spawned mimic does match the cosmetics and voice of the player it steals from
Otherwise i'd rather keep the older version of mirage if the feature is removed

[deft cape]

ah good point

[copper valve]

What's the experimental version about?

[deft cape]

mostly some code optimizations, config changes, and that SileroVAD is being used to only keep audio of when the player is talking (previously it records too many empty audio clips of random noises)

so for SileroVAD this makes voice activity work a lot nicer

while i think experimental should be stable enough, if you'd rather stick to something stable you should wait until the update is pushed to the main mirage package

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I've been doing a lot of heavy beta testing stick to stable til update is pushed live

:3

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal tmrw after u have the chance to go over the mirage stuff, could you give me a confirmation if what i have is likely good enough to go?

cuz if you give me the green light i'd like to just release it as the stable mirage update
edit: also how stable would you say LethalIntelligenceExperimental is? i'd like to add it as a recommended mod, but if it's too unstable then i'm probably going to hold off on it

[deft cape]

#1281615514325487669 covers the things you mentioned so it's perfectly fine as a replacement. doesn't have insta spawning yet (if that's something you like), but the author mentioned they could add it so that'd be nice

[ionic shoal]

I'll.let you know when I look later.

LI is stable in the sense that it works. There are some.broken features which I still need to fix (broken since before I started) but they don't break the mod.

The only game breaking thing right now is breaker boxes, I really need to find a way to get a masked to recognise that they can't reach the breaker that is buried deep within a wall because of the auto generation.

[ionic shoal]

There is another mod too btw, I think it's called mask the dead, it turns dead bodies into a masked if they are near a mask.

[solemn ridge]

That mod used to cause quite a few issues unfortunately

I don't recommend it, it's also not been updated in quite some time

[sturdy python]

Zombies also has that I think lol

[solemn ridge]

Yeah Mask The Dead is way older, and had a slew of issues

[solemn ridge]

This is different, that makes it so when you kill masked they become ragdoll bodies

So when you kill them they're not stiff lmao

[ionic shoal]

Interesting because I use it and have seen no issues, what's the issues exactly?

[solemn ridge]

It used to cause some fun shenanigans of player bodies teleporting inside as a masked enemy if they were on the ship, and the mask would vanish from the ship confirming it was the mod doing it

Maybe it got fixed idk

[slate tusk]

Hello! I have now removed the mirage. If that's what it takes,I can send tree of plugins directory
This pulugins I see:

1. BetterEmotes
2. CSync
3. HDLethalCompany
4. InteractiveTerminalAPI
5. LethalCompanyInputUtils
6. LethalLib
7. LethalNetworkAPI
8. MMHOOK
9. MoreCompanyCosmetics
10. MoreShipUpgrades (Lategame Upgrades)
11. odin serializer
12. shipLoot
13. alwaysHearWalkie
14. BetterStamina
15. BrutalCompanyMinus
16. CoilHeadStare
17. freeLookMonitor
18. HealthMetrics
19. helmetCamera
20. JigglePhysicsPlugin
21. LethalRegeneration
22. LetMeLookDown
23. maskedAIRevamp
24. mimics
25. moreCompany
26. moresuits
27. NicholaScott.BepInEx.RuntimeNetcodeRPCValidator (???)
28. noSellLimit
29. OpenMonitors
30. ReservedFlashlightSlot
31. ReservedItemSlotCore
32. ReservedKeySlot
33. ReservedWalkieSlot
34. TerminalApi
35. VoiceHUD

[ionic shoal]

sorry, i think you misunderstand my request, do you use a mod manager? or you install manually?

I wanted the mod manager profile code for your mod list, so I can download it, which will give me your config settings for each mod. if you do not use a mod manager then it will be a bit harder to provide them.

let me know

also, i would use my mod (LethalIntelligence) instead of 23) maskedAIRevamp, maskedAIRevamp is out of date, my mod is the same, but more features, and more up to date.

[slate tusk]

yes, i install manually all modes. I have now installed mirage and uninstalled maskedAIRevamp. I'm testing this option

[ionic shoal]

if you dont use a mod manager, can you go to this folder and zip up all the files and send me them ?
BepInEx\config

[ionic shoal]

masked AI revamp doesnt modify spawns, i just know its really out of date.

[ionic shoal]

havent seen this yet btw, but ill keep a look out for that as thats bad.. lol

[slate tusk]

After deleting maskedAIRevamp one day was without mimics until the flight, and another day he spavnits, in the evening I will check with more people

[slate tusk]

It's just a coincidence. Spent 3 more nights and mimic came 3 times. This is almost impossible at 15% spawn rate.

[ionic shoal]

BrutalCompanyMinus (this mod also seems to duplicate settings)
Inside MaskedPlayerEnemy Weight = 10
Inside MaskedPlayerEnemy Spawn Cap = 3
Outside MaskedPlayerEnemy Weight = 5
Outside MaskedPlayerEnemy Spawn Cap = 3

Mirage
EnableOverrideSpawnChance = true
OverrideSpawnChance = 15
UseCustomSpawnCurve = true
MaxMasked = 2
SpawnOnPlayerDeath = 10
SpawnOnlyWhenPlayerAlone = true

so both mirage and brutal company minus configure spawn settings. if you want vanilla spawns... remove brutal company minus (if you dont need it for other things as i dont know what it does) and set "enableoverridespawnchance" as "false" in mirage.

beyond that.. lowering the percent in mirage, and the spawn weight in brutal company minus.. no clue which is winning the battle to spawn a masked... or if they both just give their own chance to spawn a masked.. but either way, that will reduce the masked that spawn. just requires testing on your end.

also.. in mirage, "spawnonplayerdeath" will inflate the amount of masked you see, you may have no masked spawn, but if a player dies.. then a masked can spawn.. leading to the opinion "always have masked appearing", when its just because you died.

I personally only use vanilla spawns.. but i have 10% spawn on player death and when the player is alone in mirage, sometimes masked never spawn, sometimes we have 4/5 of them (2 masked spawns + 3 player deaths = 5 masked if we are unlucky)

[ionic shoal]

ok, had a spare 15 minutes, this is where ive gotten to so far. having some issues though.

        public void OnAudioStreamHandler(AudioStreamEvent audioEvent)
        {
            AudioClip audioClip = null;
            List<WalkieTalkie> allWalkieTalkies = GlobalItemList.Instance.allWalkieTalkies;
            audioStream = maskedEnemy.GetComponent<AudioStream>();
            foreach (WalkieTalkie walkieTalkie in allWalkieTalkies)
            {
                switch (audioEvent)
                {
                    case AudioStartEvent startEvent:
                        walkieTalkie.target.Stop();
                        walkieTalkie.target.clip = AudioClip.Create("maskedClip", startEvent.lengthSamples,    startEvent.channels, startEvent.frequency, true);
                        break;
                    case AudioReceivedEvent receivedEvent:
                        audioClip.SetData(receivedEvent.samples, receivedEvent.sampleIndex);
                        if (!walkieTalkie.target.isPlaying)
                        {
                            walkieTalkie.target.Play();
                        }
                        break;
                }
            }
        }

case AudioStartEvent startEvent:
and
case AudioReceivedEvent receivedEvent:

are both throwing errors like this.

also does the "name" of the clip need to be unique per clip? if so ill change that.

also, i feel like audio stream needs to be assigned outside of the handler, as thats used to detect if something is received?

[ionic shoal]

..thought i had a fix for the switch case issue, but maybe not 😄

[slate tusk]

Thanks for the comment!
I apologize, but I forgot to say that I downloaded BrutalCompanyMinus after I deleted Mirage. I posted the mods that I have now. To test mirage today, I disabled/uninstalled BrutalCompanyMinus

[ionic shoal]

then just turn off the settings i suggested in mirage to make it so its vanilla spawn.. or turn down the mirage spawn weight to 2% (which i beleive is the soon to be new defaullt)

[torpid pecan]

Wdym by insta spawning? Does it take time for bodies to become masked or something?

[umbral maple]

Insta spawning as in the masked spawning immediately after the player dies. Currently it will only spawn after a configurable delay with my mod, though trying to add the spawn on player death today

[torpid pecan]

Whats the minimum delay?

Like surely a delay of 0 or 1 is effectively instant?

[umbral maple]

The way my code handles it each tick is 2s, and I think minimum is 2 ticks + wake time (which can be 0)
Might be able to do it in just 1 tick, but never tested it

[torpid pecan]

I'll try later when i am back from work

[deft cape]

oof i guess thats where chatgpt got it wrong since thats how i got that snippet.

what does the error look like?

[deft cape]

audioclip doesnt need to be unique

[deft cape]

not entirely sure what you mean by this, can you dumb it down for me 😅

[deft cape]

nvm i see what u mean, yeah ur right on that. if that was part ofmy snippet then i just overlooked it haha

[ionic shoal]

i think i need to dumb it down for myself, you were already declaring it outside of the handler.. im just dumb and forgot because i was moving stuff around so much lmao

[ionic shoal]

that was the erorr, getting mixed up between your replies about what you need and what you dont 😄

basically, it cant convert from stream to start/receive event

also, i assume i need to use fsharpcore... as OnAudioStream is part of that?

[deft cape]

hmm i thought i was making it into a c# event

i'm gonna have to take another look at it then

[ionic shoal]

i basically have it setup like this right now
so the code in "enableMirageAudio()" i was planning to add to when the masked spawn, so as soon as a masked spawns, the event is added, and the audiostream is gotten.

but OnAudioStream comes from FSharpCore. (hence that error), i was hoping there was an alternative xD

and the other errors i outlined

[deft cape]

yeah nah you don't need FSharpCore if i set this up right

so i'll have to take another look at it

[ionic shoal]

thats what i figured, which is why i held off on installing it to try it 🙂

[deft cape]

wait whats the error if you hover over AudioStartEvent and AudioReceivedEvent?

[deft cape]

huh i thought c# was able to handle pattern matching like this

another case of chatgpt lying to me 😭

or maybe pattern maching is a newer feature

[ionic shoal]

haha, well i did wonder if it related to these..

but i guess not.

[deft cape]

nah the type itself sohuld still be AudioReceivedEvent and whatnot

[ionic shoal]

and yeah, chatgpt lies out if its ass.. when chess streamers tried to play chess vs chatgpt, it was making illegal moves on turn 1. lol

[deft cape]

💀 💀

does doing it as if statements instead work?```csharp
if (audioEvent is AudioStartEvent startEvent)
{
walkieTalkie.target.Stop();
walkieTalkie.target.clip = AudioClip.Create("maskedClip", startEvent.lengthSamples, startEvent.channels, startEvent.frequency, true);
}
else if (audioEvent is AudioReceivedEvent receivedEvent)
{
audioClip.SetData(receivedEvent.samples, receivedEvent.sampleIndex);
if (!walkieTalkie.target.isPlaying)
{
walkieTalkie.target.Play();
}
}

whoops sorry for the indentation lmao

[deft cape]

if this works then ill keep the event types as is, otherwise i'll have to change that as well

[ionic shoal]

ill have a look, but i think not, one sec

nope, same error

[deft cape]

hmmmm

@ionic shoal do you mind dropping everything in a github branch?

i'll go play around with the pattern matching stuff and try to figure it out till i can get it to compile

actually wait im an idiot, the reason the compiler is complaining is cuz of the fsharp stuff so ofc it can't pattern match properly

in the middle of trying to make it compatible with csharp events

so once that's fixed it should just work anyways

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal how hard would it be for you to soft depend on FSharpCore? looks like if i want to avoid managing my own list of event handlers, i'd still need a reference to FSharpCore in the generated code

if it's too annoying to do then i'll just manage my own list of event handlers instead

[ionic shoal]

i think its just adding it as a nuget package

nevermind.. its not that simple apparantly. 🙂

now i installed fsharp core.. and i get this error.

and nothing has changed regarding the patterns.

give me a sec and ill create a branch for you.

https://github.com/VirusTLNR/LethalIntelligence/tree/mirageIntegration

LINES 4757 TO 4797
https://github.com/VirusTLNR/LethalIntelligence/blob/401fc465b5879f7ebfc878a13c889d417d135e1b/Patches/MaskedPatches.cs#L4757

i forgot to re-add the using statements for your mod, so it might be 1/2 lines diff in a sec, but ive surrounded it in a region. (lines changed a lot as i accidently commited some other lines where i was fiddling trying to get it to work, link is correct now.)

[deft cape]

all good i'll take a look, thanks

[sudden cipher]

I have a question
I installed Mirage and MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork and I dont have monsters in building, only outside theres any way to fix if?

I installed it manually

[deft cape]

are those the only mods installed? i'd recommend seeing if #1231104141594595368 supports the latest version, since if it doesn't, that could be preventing spawns

mirage by itself works

[sudden cipher]

Can mod "Rolling Giant" prevent spawning?

And sorry if typing a lot, can I just delete Masked Enemy Overhaul Fork?

[deft cape]

yes, mirage covers most of MEOF features already

also no worries, feel free to ask anything

[deft cape]

the issue with preventing spawning is typically with outdated mods that are no longer compatible with the latest version of LC. whether MEOF works or not, you'd have to look around to confirm (if you're looking to continue using it that is)

for rolling giant you'll want to ask the mod author

[sudden cipher]

Oh okay

Thanks for answering

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal i fixed the errors for the mirage integration stuff (didn't do a build to confirm since i'm missing the other compatibility dlls to be able to run a build)

sent a pr: https://github.com/VirusTLNR/LethalIntelligence/pull/7

also was able to remove the FSharpCore reference from mirage so i removed it from your csproj

[ionic shoal]

fair, i normally just dl them and put them in the folder, probably should automate it someday.

oh nice

[deft cape]

yeah that'd be more convenient for any contributors for sure

[ionic shoal]

yeah, tbh, im guessing it can be done within github, but doing actions and automatic stuff on github, im not at all familiar with, neither my previous job or current one touch github, and most of my coding for personal reasons has been before i used github, so learning curve 😉

can confirm btw, the fix does compile, so, now i can finally look at testing ingame and fixing my end.. woo

[deft cape]

wooohoo lets go

honestly i think i'm just gonna push the latest update to stable mirage soon if there's no bugs with luxnara's playtest today

if our integration requires any change i can always push a new update later

[ionic shoal]

i should know if its going to work within the next 30 mins, curious question, because i never play solo, does mirage work if your solo? (ie, the voices are played from the masked?) just wondering if need a second client like i did when i was testing skinwalkers.

[deft cape]

mirage works in solo yeah

@ionic shoal i overlooked this earlier, but you should remove the isStream flag here:

walkieTalkie.target.clip = AudioClip.Create("maskedClip", startEvent.lengthSamples, startEvent.channels, startEvent.frequency, true);

should actually be this:

walkieTalkie.target.clip = AudioClip.Create("maskedClip", startEvent.lengthSamples, startEvent.channels, startEvent.frequency);
```i don't quite remember why this is needed, but i just specifically remember running into errors when that was set to true when i was writing mirage

[ionic shoal]

good 🙂

erm, i had to add that in.. it errored without

[deft cape]

oh interesting... if it works it works i guess 😂

[ionic shoal]

should it be false? or true?

[deft cape]

in mirage i don't have the parameter set, and i'm pretty sure it's false by default

although lemme go double check

[ionic shoal]

no default in c# xD

if there was a default, i wouldent need it

[deft cape]

oh wait i'm an idiot

i just have it set to false

💀

[ionic shoal]

lmfao

[deft cape]

for some reason i thought c# had default params

[ionic shoal]

it does.

but that doesnt

[deft cape]

ah

[ionic shoal]

private void function(int required, int optional=0)
{
//stuff
}

thats the diference between optional/required in c#, i d k if its same in f#

how long ago did you update exp to .28?

[deft cape]

yeee that's the case for most languages that supports it

[deft cape]

thats the version mentioned in the PR right? it was like right as i made that PR

when i uploaded to TS at laest

[ionic shoal]

wasnt aware, my coding knowledge is c#, vb, java? >.> lol

[deft cape]

well for f# at least it's different, it's actually really cumbersome to do it in that language, but that's because default parameters are unidiomatic in functional programming

[ionic shoal]

ah ive got 10 mins or so to wait then

[deft cape]

oh right it's not available on the mod managers yet 😔

[ionic shoal]

yeah, i can just manual install i guess

[deft cape]

thats always an option ya

[ionic shoal]

btw, regarding experimental, it comes with core exp... but also core-exp is installed seperate?

oh nothing in the coreexperimental folder.

[deft cape]

core should come with stuff

like silerovad

so you'd need that + the dependencies shown on core

[ionic shoal]

one sec.

[deft cape]

honestly might be easier to just wait 10 mins

so u can press install and left the mod manager do everythign

[ionic shoal]

this was installed via gale.

but thats v.27, disabled it cause im manual installing in another folder

[deft cape]

it's prob cuz it went into the core folder

if i remember right thats how i had it setup at least

[ionic shoal]

shrug just thought id mention it, but there is nothing in the core folder.

[deft cape]

wha.. idk how it'd even run then

[ionic shoal]

well core, is in the main folder. xD

[deft cape]

at least for r2modman i remember the core folder automatically extracting to BepInEx/core

then again if you already have MirageCoreExperimental previously

you don't need to deal with that

[ionic shoal]

oh i see, maybe gale ballsed it up.

[deft cape]

if it works it works

yea no clue

[ionic shoal]

oh now i see

there is stuf in bepinex/core.

[deft cape]

yee thats what i'd expect

[ionic shoal]

yeah sorry, i just meant the plugins/coreexperimental folder was empty, i just figured the dll was meant to be in there xD

[deft cape]

all good 😂

[ionic shoal]

WELL... good news is.. im hearing "something". but, i think yeah i need to wait for the mod to update on thunderstore.. because its not correct and im getting an error xD

(its referencing fsharp core, so im guessing i need to update experimental core or something)

[deft cape]

ah that's possible

lmk how the test goes after

[ionic shoal]

i will for sure

[thin sonnet]

Just out of curiosity, what are you guys supposed to be doing?
Are you planning to merge Mirage with Lethal Intelligence?

[ionic shoal]

no, just playing mirage audio sometimes via the walkie talkies when they speak, so the same masked, will be talking in person, and then also use the walkie.

[thin sonnet]

I see, thanks!

[buoyant jacinth]

Actually, why F#

[ionic shoal]

ok, so i can hear the start of my voice now... but there is an error..

i think its saying AudioClip is null, this is line 4791.

audioClip.SetData(receivedEvent.samples, receivedEvent.sampleIndex);

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object Stack trace: LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp.OnAudioStreamHandler (System.Object _, Mirage.Unity.AudioStream+AudioStreamEventArgs eventArgs) (at ./Patches/MaskedPatches.cs:4791) Microsoft.FSharp.Control.FSharpEvent2[TDelegate,TArgs].Trigger (System.Object sender, TArgs args) (at D:/a/_work/1/s/src/FSharp.Core/event.fs:141)
Mirage.Unity.AudioStream+AudioStream.onFrameDecompressed (System.Single[] samples, System.Int32 sampleIndex) (at ./Mirage/Unity/AudioStream.fs:52)
[email protected] (System.Single[] samples, System.Int32 sampleIndex) (at <bf36058f76727b058db4928726dbcc54>:IL_0000)
Mirage.Domain.Audio.Receiver.onReceiveFrame (Mirage.Domain.Audio.Receiver+AudioReceiver receiver, Mirage.Domain.Audio.Frame+FrameData frameData) (at ./Mirage/Domain/Audio/Receiver.fs:66)
[email protected] (Mirage.Domain.Audio.Frame+FrameData frameData) (at ./Mirage/Unity/AudioStream.fs:67)
[email protected] (Microsoft.FSharp.Core.FSharpOption1[T] frameData) (at ./Mirage/Domain/Audio/Sender.fs:62) Microsoft.FSharp.Control.AsyncPrimitives.CallThenInvokeNoHijackCheck[a,b] (Microsoft.FSharp.Control.AsyncActivation1[T] ctxt, b result1, Microsoft.FSharp.Core.FSharpFunc2[T,TResult] userCode) (at D:/a/_work/1/s/src/FSharp.Core/async.fs:528) Microsoft.FSharp.Control.Trampoline.Execute (Microsoft.FSharp.Core.FSharpFunc2[T,TResult] firstAction) (at D:/a/_work/1/s/src/FSharp.Core/async.fs:112)
--- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown ---
<StartupCode$FSharp-Core>[email protected] (System.Runtime.ExceptionServices.ExceptionDispatchInfo edi) (at D:/a/_work/1/s/src/FSharp.Core/async.fs:1798)
[e-mail] (System.Runtime.ExceptionServices.ExceptionDispatchInfo x) (at <12b89e0ba184665de418f7f4c173580f>:IL_0000)
Microsoft.FSharp.Control.Trampoline.Execute (Microsoft.FSharp.Core.FSharpFunc2[T,TResult] firstAction) (at D:/a/_work/1/s/src/FSharp.Core/async.fs:138) <StartupCode$FSharp-Core>[email protected] (System.Object o) (at D:/a/_work/1/s/src/FSharp.Core/async.fs:181) UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext+WorkRequest.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0002) UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.Exec () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_005D) UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.ExecuteTasks () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0014)

may know why, so give me a sec, trying something.

well, error isnt occuring anymore, but also not getting anything sounding like a voice through the walkie.

i think the audio i heard before, was the normal audio, and nothing is coming through the walkie.

[deft cape]

could you double check if the samples array is non null? like maybe just print the length or something

[ionic shoal]

sure

[deft cape]

whats the exact line of code for MaskedPatches.cs:4791?

[deft cape]

initially it was to try a new language, and i ended up sticking to it out of personal preference (for mirage that is)

[ionic shoal]

audioClip.SetData(receivedEvent.samples, receivedEvent.sampleIndex);

i changed it to like this... basically sent the audioclip.create into the audioclip variable, then assigned the variable to the clip on the walkietalkie, that prevented the null ref

switch (audioEvent)
{
    case AudioStreamEvent.AudioStartEvent:
        var startEvent = (audioEvent as AudioStreamEvent.AudioStartEvent).Item;
        walkieTalkie.target.Stop();
        audioClip = AudioClip.Create("maskedClip", startEvent.lengthSamples, startEvent.channels, startEvent.frequency, false);
        walkieTalkie.target.clip = audioClip;
        break;
    case AudioStreamEvent.AudioReceivedEvent:
        var receivedEvent = (audioEvent as AudioStreamEvent.AudioReceivedEvent).Item;
        Plugin.mls.LogError("Samples=" + receivedEvent.samples.Length.ToString());
        audioClip.SetData(receivedEvent.samples, receivedEvent.sampleIndex);
        if (!walkieTalkie.target.isPlaying)
        {
            walkieTalkie.target.Play();
        }
        break;
}

[deft cape]

ah so it's not the samples being null for sure

[buoyant jacinth]

FP enjoyer i see

C over C++ as well?

[ionic shoal]

nah, but ill still check that anyway.

[deft cape]

i've never had a need for systems languages 99% of the time so it just depends on what im working with

for silerovad i used C just because i forgot a lot of the c++ syntax

[ionic shoal]

samples was 2304.

[deft cape]

im not sure if this is an issue of when im calling AudioStartEvent vs AudioReceivedEvent then

but i did log the calls out

and i remember AudioStartEvent always being called at the start

so it odesn't really make sense for the clip to be null in this case

if audioClip itself is null that is

[ionic shoal]

well, as i said, its not null now.

[deft cape]

oh im blind

[ionic shoal]

but no audio comes through the walkies xD

[deft cape]

weird...

does PlayOneShot() work differently from Play()?

[ionic shoal]

not a clue.

wait

maybe it is working...

O.o

i hear some audio trhough the walkie suddenly.. but its sketchy.

and very quiet

[deft cape]

possible that i might be doing something wrong on my end

i'll take a look later

probably wont be able to touch it for another 3 hours or so

[ionic shoal]

well the audio does seem to be playing

let me try to record, so you can see what i mean

[deft cape]

sounds good

[ionic shoal]

no worries, ill be off to bed within 2 anyway.

[deft cape]

actually do you think you could write down how i can reproduce your test on my end?

when i work on it later ill just run some tests as well

[ionic shoal]

well with the code i have right now (which ill upload to the branch), i just hold a walkie.. and start talking to the masked.

[deft cape]

i don't need to drop a walkie talkie for the masked?

[ionic shoal]

nah

we were talking about blocking the audio from playing, when it shouldent play... so that can come later

[deft cape]

ah sounds good easy enough to test then

[ionic shoal]

yes, thats why i didnt put in the conditions yet 🙂

the one thing i can confirm is working, is, if you turn your walkie off mid-clip.. the audio cuts (as it should)

[deft cape]

if audio sounds janky it probably is something on my end

so hopefully ill be able to figure it out and it should be simple from there

[ionic shoal]

well, if the audio could be the same as if it was a player speaking into a walkie and receiving the audio, then that would be good. i think 99% of the "not good" is just that its quiet, there is only minor jankyness, but that might also be due to the sudden squeak of my chair, we shall see when i can get this to record.

ok, maybe im going doolally... before it seemed like some audio was coming through the walkies, but now im hearing nothing

the one time they did seem to speak through the walkies, my game audio wasnt captured, so i cant even show how it sounded.

OK, it maybe the clip is only playing on one walkie..

[deft cape]

oof all good

[ionic shoal]

seems to be playing on all of them.. recorded an extended clip, i had all 4 walkies on, turned them off, dropped them, etc etc etc.. my microphone is not recorded by the clip, all the audio is from the game.

also, i feel like when im near the masked, the clip doesnt ever play through the walkie. not sure if thats intended, or just happens or if im just imagining it.. just thought id mention it.

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal do u mind sending me ur compat dlls btw, just so it's easier for me to build and run/test

[deft cape]

definitely not intended, although that kind of functionality shouldnt be happening from mirage anyways, since i'm only sending you audio data

[ionic shoal]

oh i never meant that your causing it, i just said let me know if you think its happening, i assume it shouldent be happening, and it maybe just potluck, but with the walkie audio so low, cant hear that over the live audio xD

sent you a zip of the compatibility dlls folder btw

[buoyant jacinth]

Mirage was the reason i found out my mic is shit in Lethal Company

Any ideas why could it make weird ah noises xd

[timber notch]

I think the only notable one that Mirage doesn’t have is the option to have Masks fade in as a Masked gets close to you

Which admittedly I would love in Mirage. I’m a big fan of not being able to tell if someone is a Masked or not, but it kinda makes things not make much sense

[deft cape]

yeah thats when it'd make sense to keep MEOF with mirage

[buoyant jacinth]

It's shit only in lethal actually

Not a single other game nor app has this issue

Only in lethal it makes super weird noises that i can not record

[timber notch]

Have you tried a voice settings mod?

[buoyant jacinth]

Which is..?

[timber notch]

I just meant in general

[timber notch]

Try this

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/lukeprime/DissonanceVoiceSettings/

Oh

[buoyant jacinth]

Still not helping as it's too terrible for some reason

[timber notch]

Weird

Are you sure lethal is using the right mic?

[buoyant jacinth]

There isn't a lot of options lol

[timber notch]

Have you tried the default settings in the voice mod?

[buoyant jacinth]

I mean yeah

It starts with those xd

Before i go for further changes

[timber notch]

Hmm

[solemn ridge]

For DissonanceVoiceSettings try these settings

[timber notch]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1966720/discussions/0/4032473196480160418/

[buoyant jacinth]

That's about what i have tho xd

If you join vc in discord or anywhere else - it's gonna be normal btw

It is genuinely ONLY in lethal company

And i have not a single clue why

Oh well

This looks like possible reason

[buoyant jacinth]

That solved it thanks

I wonder if there will be mod to fix for that as well... As I'd like not to switch it all the time of I need the higher bitrate

Or voicemeter it goes with shit ton of outputs

[deft cape]

interesting that a mic that's too good makes it bad in this game 💀

@ionic shoal small PR, this shouldnt change anything but i realized the audioClip variable wasnt needed so i just removed, it and pairing it with MirageExprimental v0.0.30, walkie talkies are able to play a voice

https://github.com/VirusTLNR/LethalIntelligence/pull/8

like you mentioned, the interaction you noticed where if you stand near a masked, the walkie talkie won't make any sound is present

you're probably going to have to dig around and see what zeekers did for that if you want to change that behaviour

during my tests rn the walkie talkie and the masked enemy are talking at the exact same time. i imagine there are situations where it won't completely match up but this is probably as close as it gets anyways

walkie talkie does sound a bit quiet, so that'll be something for you to play around with if it doesn't sound 1:1 with how it normally does

(i don't normally use walkie talkies so i quite honestly dont remember how loud it's actually supposed to be)

[buoyant jacinth]

It sounded disgusting yeah xd

That's not the only place where i've seen too high quality of sound ruining everything

I remember minecraft bedrock just literally crashing windows if you use too high quality sound settings for your audio xd

[deft cape]

what mic are u even using

is it some really highend one

[buoyant jacinth]

Nop

[buoyant jacinth]

That was about sound, not mic

Speakers

[deft cape]

high quality sound settings making your pc crash takes skill

[buoyant jacinth]

Yeah xd

[deft cape]

@ionic shoal btw tmrw once u have the time to look over the changes + use the new MirageExprimental build, lmk if mirage is good to go so i can just push an update to the stable package

i'm assuming there might be some stuff you have to deal with the walkie talkies (like volume?), but that stuff is unrelated to the interface i exposed in mirage so if what i have is good then i'll push my update out

[ionic shoal]

Sounds good, will do! Thanks. And yeah I figured it is a volume issue, I'll look into that when I test

[ionic shoal]

ok, i think i know why it maybe so quiet, it maybe due to how walkies have changed, they now factor in distance on their volume, ill try to test with a friend later, as testing solo when its a 2 way conversation is hard. 😄

i think i have them at a good volume, but ill have to test distances with a friend, my only concern is raising the volume for the masked, will also raise the volume for players.

[deft cape]

that would make sense, since when i flew off too far i couldnt hear anything from the walkie anymore

btw would u say the mirage interop stuff is good enough and it'd be safe for me to push my update?

[ionic shoal]

Yes, unless changing the volume affected normal walkie volume, but I guess then I would need to add a new audio device attached to the walkie for the masked to use or something..?

[deft cape]

ill hold off a bit then since im not even sure how that would work

[ionic shoal]

Well I plan to test with my friend soon, so I'll know regarding that shortly

[deft cape]

sounds good lmk!

[ionic shoal]

so tested with my friend, and it seems that changing the volume for the masked, doesnt affect players shrug no clue why 🙂 but thats good! so all good to go ahead, will try to implement it all fully this weekend including the actual walkie part, I assume if any other issues, we can chat about that if and when it happens.

[deft cape]

yeah for sure, if any other issues arise ill take a look

glad to see the volume stuff works though, so ill go ahead and push my update soon

thanks for the confirmation 😄

[ionic shoal]

im surprised it does, as i would have thought the "target" of the other walkies, would be where the vanilla walkie audio goes to. lol

but yeah, i put the volume to 0, and suddenly masked werent talking through walkies, but, my friend and i would.

btw, talking about your update, you are removing the volume level config from your mod? i didnt see it in experimental

[deft cape]

yeah that's what i as assuming as well, but if it works it works 😂

[deft cape]

it's in the LethalSettings mod settings

basically needed a way to not have personal preferences synced

which meant no configs

and LethalSettings is the only option i could find to allow me to do preferences and save it to my own format that i want to use

[ionic shoal]

oh, ill have a look then, i personally share personal preferences for masked volume so its the same for everyone (ie, same level as players xD)

[deft cape]

the reason i made it not synced is just cuz some ppl prefer not listening to their voice while some do

your case is definitely not ideal with the settings but

i stilll feel like this is the way to go

out of curiosity though, what volume setting do you have it set to?

is the default (1.0) too loud or something

[ionic shoal]

yes, i think i normally have it on 0.9, but i was planning to put it lower.

I am playing later, so i can let you know in a few hours.

[deft cape]

icic

just wondering if i should maybe lower the default or keep it at 1.0 🤔

[ionic shoal]

well, whatever my setting is, still feels a bit shouty when they are not nearby, so was thinking 0.8, but ive used 0.9 (if thats what i use) for a long time, when i saw setting was gone i was like "eh" haha

[deft cape]

icic

think i'll just leave it at 1.0 for now unless more ppl suggest to change it

whoops i just realized cuz of lunxara that i have log spam in the latest experimental build

it'll be gone when i push to stable

[ionic shoal]

forgot about that, figured you wanted it tbh xD

[deft cape]

nah i meant to remove it for experimental

just left it in there by accident

only had it there cuz i was confirming if it was working or not

Mirage v1.9.1 is released:

Note: This will be the last update, unless any major gamebreaking bugs requires my attention. For anyone expecting the v2 (voice recognition + machine learning) update, please read the README on why this update has been dropped.

• Config has been reworked and requires you to redo your config. You will need to delete Mirage.cfg (backup the file in case you need it), and then use the newly generated Mirage.General.cfg and Mirage.Enemies.cfg configuration files.
• Enemy configs are now generated at runtime, no longer requiring a manual update for Mirage every time Zeekers adds new enemies.
• Optimized the codebase for better performance.
• Now uses SileroVAD for better voice activity detection, resulting in better recordings when using voice activity.
• SpawnOnPlayerDeath as a feature has been removed. Use the Zombies mod as a replacement.
• Added compatibility with LethalIntelligence.
• Thanks to Lunxara, JacuJ, BBAPepsiMan, and JokerMan for extensively testing the update. I was only able to fix a lot of the subtle bugs they found because of their extensive testing.
• Updated icon, created by IntegrityFate.

[timber notch]

Congrats on the releasing the update! 🎉

While I know it wasn’t the update you were wanting to release, your countless hours of hard work don’t go unappreciated.

[autumn glen]

loving the new icon barch <3

[deft cape]

thanks! i'm just glad im finally released of my shackles so i can focus on studies now 😂

[deft cape]

fate did suuuuuuch a good job on it

looks so sexy

[autumn glen]

on god!!!

[timber notch]

Yeah the new icon looks freaking awesome

[deft cape]

frfr

[timber notch]

Yeah, I bet!

[thin sonnet]

Hello!
I have a question, why the use of Lethal Settings?

having mods with more support and updates like LethalConfig?

[cursive scroll]

Is there a way I can delete all the records for voice lines for all the clients? (For the new voice recording thing)

[clever knot]

Game crashes every time I load into a save since the new update
Disabling these three fixed it

I'll try to find which one is the culprit

Update: It's LethalSettings

[deft cape]

not sure why it'd crash 🤔
idk if i missed something

disabling lethalsettings should actually be causing it to crash

[deft cape]

LethalConfig doesn't do what I want, that's for modifying configs (which you can already do in your mod manager), whereas LethalSettings lets me define settings and use my own arbitrary format that i want to use

the main reason for it is to not need to have a config that gets synced

since those are personal preferences that i'm using lethalsettings for

[thin sonnet]

I see, the sad thing is that LethalSettings has not been maintained for 7 months and there may be compatibility issues with other mods.

[deft cape]

not being maintained doesn't mean there'll be compatibility issues

it's stable

it's also pretty independent in functionality so it shouldn't really affect much

[thick venture]

can confirm here too

lethalsettings causes the same issue for my modpack

[thin sonnet]

I'll be testing this on my modpack

[thick venture]

only thing I can see related to a crash is this in the logs

[22:19:23.9999557] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Mirage.Hook.MaskedPlayerEnemy.isMaskedEnemy@62 (SpawnableEnemyWithRarity enemy) (at ./Mirage/Hook/MaskedPlayerEnemy.fs:63)
[email protected] (SpawnableEnemyWithRarity delegateArg0) (at <40fbb89c0daf11f1039b787aa180cf14>:IL_0000)
System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].RemoveAll (System.Predicate`1[T] match) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_001A)
[email protected] (On.TimeOfDay+orig_Start orig, TimeOfDay self) (at ./Mirage/Hook/MaskedPlayerEnemy.fs:67)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<TimeOfDay::Start>?-47960308(TimeOfDay)

[clever knot]

When opening the game

Everytime I click on a LethalSettings option:

[deft cape]

i guess it's not as stable as i thought

but there's still no good alternative

the alternative is just making ppl use notepad to edit the settings 💀

since i don't want personal preferences synced by mod managers

[thin sonnet]

:,]

[hollow violet]

ooc, why not? Is this to make mirage something that can be used between users who have different set ups for their copy of Mirage?

[thick venture]

tested again

its not lethalsettings

its mirage period LMAO

I'm assuming it works without lethalsettings because that might prevent mirage from loading

[deft cape]

it's cuz some settings are literally just personal preferences (e.g. the volume you want to hear monsters mimicking your voice, whether you want to record while dead, etc)

[deft cape]

it'll crash without lethalsettings since mirage depends on it

[thick venture]

I was actually gonna ask where all the older config settings went because I couldn't find a config file to edit

were a lot of the older settings removed with the new update?

[deft cape]

depends on which ones you're talking about

for the ones that had a comment saying it's not synced

those are moved to lethalsettings

[thin sonnet]

yup, crashed :,]

[thick venture]

yeah I saw that like the voice and spectating voices settings were moved

can't find a lot of the older settings though

specifically the mob toggles

[deft cape]

mob toggles are in the config

[thick venture]

where's the config file located/named?

[deft cape]

Mirage.General.cfg and Mirage.Enemies.cfg

[thick venture]

ah alr there they are

they didn't generate before or either I didn't notice them oops LMAO

[deft cape]

oh right i forgot to mention on the readme actually

that ur supposed to load into the game once (not just the menu, but like actually into the game)

cuz the monsters are grabbed at runtime now

[thick venture]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

alright nvm that explains it LMAO

[deft cape]

yeee

[thick venture]

yeah I was loading into the menu

[deft cape]

is it not crashing for u anymore

how are u setting the LethalSettings menu

[thick venture]

I'm able to get to the menu without crashing

[thin sonnet]

me too

[thick venture]

but loading into a save causes it to crash

even now with the config generated

[thin sonnet]

Is when I load a game when it crash

[deft cape]

the problem is idk an alternative to LethalSettings

for what i want

[thick venture]

I don't think the issue is lethalsettings though

I can run the game fine without mirage but with lethal settings and it works

[deft cape]

on a clean profile it works for me

[thick venture]

hm

[deft cape]

so i def didn't miss any dependencies or anything

[thick venture]

just tried to create a new save instead and it still crashed

[deft cape]

who here has a small modpack that's crashing with mirage rn

[thick venture]

so it works on a clean install from TS

[thin sonnet]

not me :,]

[thick venture]

I'll start disabling mods until it doesn't crash, see if I can find anything

[thin sonnet]

300 mods is not small

[deft cape]

that sounds kinda painful

[thick venture]

it is painful

not really a better way though LMAO

too many mods

[deft cape]

just play on an older version for now

ill see if there's alternatives

[thin sonnet]

will do

[hollow violet]

got some bad news on my end

[deft cape]

worst case scenario i add a config back and just have it sync even though i dont want that to happen

yea others have been reporting about it

[thin sonnet]

but that's on clean profile

[deft cape]

crazy how it's been running really stable for lunxara's modpack but then everyone else crashes on start 😭

oh

the fuck

ok this is why i even dropped v2

[regal sandal]

Was there a big update?

[deft cape]

cuz of hardware issues, and this update isnt even supposed to be big

[deft cape]

not really, i originally had a whole v2 update but i removed most of the functionality

so at the end it's mostly an optimization update and config changes and whatnot

[regal sandal]

What was removed

[deft cape]

can u send me a log

[thick venture]

hmmm

[deft cape]

only having mirage installed and crashing is REALLY concerning

[hollow violet]

gotchu

[deft cape]

wait @thick venture can u try running mirage by itself as well

[thick venture]

yeah sure

[deft cape]

im wondering if this a hardware problem for whatever dependencies i used

tbh if it doesn't work

i think im reverting mirage back to the previous version

i dont have time to work on this anymore

[thick venture]

understandable

I'll give this a try

[deft cape]

oof the logs stopped

so nothing useful in there :(

@thin sonnet do u mind trying to run mirage by itself as well

just wanna confirm if it's hardware

also fuck it moroxide can u drop ur modpack

ill run it to see if it crashes for me or not

[thin sonnet]

019235a4-61c3-221b-bff9-a8baddb65cd9

update mirage

[thick venture]

crashed on clean install with mirage

[deft cape]

so it is a hardware problem...

[deft cape]

fuck

[thick venture]

yeah not sure if the log is gonna help though

[thin sonnet]

crashed on clean profile

[deft cape]

brooooooooooooooo

i think it might be SileroVAD then

kms

i'll try and remove that

and see if it fixes the crashing issue

[thick venture]

does SileroVAD have any requirements for hardware

[deft cape]

it shouldnt

but it's the only native thing

that could potentially crash the game

yea these logs dont have any info sadly

usually when this happens

it's cuz it's crashing from native code

in my case it might have to do with the C code i wrote for silero vad

honestly i think

i'm just gonna revert

i'll leave it as an experimental build for ppl who wanna see if they can use this update

and revert back to the previous 1.8.x update

just dont wanna deal with silerovad cuz it's a huge pain in the ass to debug

[thick venture]

shit alright

[deft cape]

even this update's getting dropped, gg 😭

[thick venture]

wonder if its a minimum specs requirement or just something about different CPU/GPUs

[thick venture]

rip 😭

[deft cape]

nah silerovad is super lightweight

i think it has to do more with my C code than anything

so disappointing that i gotta drop even this version though lmao

[thick venture]

could you send the github link to the C code in the repo, not too experienced with it but I wanna take a look now

[deft cape]

https://github.com/qwbarch/mirage/blob/main/package/silero-vad/lib/silero-vad.c

[thin sonnet]

do you have plans on revert this version?

[deft cape]

AFAIK previously when i had crashes with this, it's from things like the sample rate not being 16khz (which shouldn't be a problem since i resample it using naudio before passing it over to the C code)

so maybe the pcm data doesn't fit the expected length

[deft cape]

probably will just upload the previous 1.8.X version of mirage and call it a day

cuz it doesn't seem worth it for me to debug this

[thin sonnet]

you can't revert that way :,]

the versioning on ts doesn't let you roll back

[thick venture]

whats sucks is that its not even staying alive enough to log whats happening

[deft cape]

nah i'll just reupload it as 1.10 i mean

[thick venture]

that'd make it a lot easier to at least understand the issue

[deft cape]

yea thats the main problem

if i could get proper error logs then i'd at least try and fix it

but without any leads i'm just wasting time that i already dont really have

[thick venture]

understandable

wish there was a way to force it to at least output what it has

[thin sonnet]

nope :,] , it has to be at least greater than the current version

[deft cape]

ugh so disappointing that it ended this way but it is what it is

[solemn ridge]

I think something is just wrong with the stable build

[deft cape]

curent version is 1.9.1 so it's higher

[thick venture]

?

[solemn ridge]

Cus Experimental works fine you should double check you didn't miss something

I've had none of the crashing problems not once

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge try running stable

[thin sonnet]

oh, I see, idk why i thought it was v2.0

[deft cape]

cuz im pretty sure it's hardware

[solemn ridge]

Will do cus I think it's an issue with the stable update

[deft cape]

oh nah that was the originally planned update

idk if you saw but i dropped that update completely

due to time constraints and whatnot

[deft cape]

i hope ur right but i dont think thats the case

still downloading moroxide's modpack so gonna test with that

@thin sonnet @thick venture @hollow violet whats ur mics like? do yall know the sample rate / channel output on it?

[thick venture]

uhhh I could probably find out

gimmie a min

[solemn ridge]

Actually @deft cape

Did you tell everyone to remove Barchlib?

I wonder if it's a duplication issue

[thick venture]

couldn't be

[thin sonnet]

this?

[thick venture]

it happens on clean installs

[solemn ridge]

Anyways testing update

[deft cape]

yea is it possible to check the samplerate and channels on it?

[thick venture]

not sure if this is it but its what windows is telling me

[deft cape]

can u try and set it to 1 channel

[thick venture]

yeah sure

nvm

doesn't have the option

[deft cape]

fuckkkk

[deft cape]

i think 2 channels might be a problem i forgot to account for

[solemn ridge]

One sec

[thick venture]

only got sample rate settings

[solemn ridge]

Lemme check what mine is set to

[deft cape]

but idk if it actually is that or not so i dont wanna fix that if it ends up not being it

[thick venture]

fair yeah

[deft cape]

sounds good

[hollow violet]

going to echo that I have CD/DVD quality options in mine as well (no FM), and mine is set to DVD Atm

[clever knot]

Here's mine

[deft cape]

but i guess if everyone crashing

ah

[deft cape]

nvm then

[thin sonnet]

?

[solemn ridge]

Not that

[deft cape]

ok nvm yea

definitely not a channels issue then

[thick venture]

hmm

[deft cape]

lunxara has the exact mic settings as lilo

so it can't be a mic problem anymore

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape It's an issue with Stable

[deft cape]

im not even sure if it's silerovad then

oh what

[thick venture]

oh wait

[deft cape]

ur crashing too?

[solemn ridge]

I crashed loading a lobby

[deft cape]

OK

MAYBE ITS FINE

[solemn ridge]

it's the Stable update

[thick venture]

is experimental on github?

[deft cape]

BUT WHY DID I NOT CRASH WTF

[thick venture]

😭

[deft cape]

oh wait

[hollow violet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211559510788018196/1278940147769016360/imalive.gif

[deft cape]

i think it might be a MirageCore issue actually

[solemn ridge]

I bet it's the core

[deft cape]

i think i was using MirageCoreExperimental

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

[deft cape]

..........................

[solemn ridge]

Cus CoreExperimental is fine

[thick venture]

no way

lunxara

[deft cape]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/qwbarch/MirageCoreExperimental/

[thick venture]

oo[

[deft cape]

try running on this real quick

[thick venture]

nvm

yeah sure

[solemn ridge]

Testing

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge u mightve been right this whole time

i almost gave up right there

was legit tilted asf LMAOO

[solemn ridge]

I knew it couldn't have been Mirage

Lol