Mirage

[solemn ridge]

LOl

They all kind of suck

Ngl

[solemn ridge]

I however am probably gonna get the filter for OBS only to lower the gpu usage that Broadcast uses

That might fix the mic chopping issue

might also help with laughter we'll see

[buoyant jacinth]

Get a separate card for recording

[solemn ridge]

Nah lol

[buoyant jacinth]

Unironically - looking into intel arc for av1 recording might be curious

[solemn ridge]

I removed the Nvidia Broadcast app, I never even knew it had an issue with increasing gpu usage tbh I just got rid of it cus it was causing too many audio issues

[buoyant jacinth]

Tbf it should not really put that much of a strain as encoder/decoder modules are kinda separate so it's fun

Maybe some power restraint for whatever reason?

[dark brook]

friend had an a770 for streaming (no separate pc tho) and had a ton of crashes, especially with their vtubing software open

[livid rose]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/873694206361755679.png?size=160&name=AS+SOON+AS+ITS+READY+O'CLOCK

[solemn ridge]

Nah it's a known issue with the app

The App unfortunately is abandoned

and hasn't been updated in a long time so

It explains a lot

[buoyant jacinth]

Well... Tbf in past they had lots of troubles with driver support so yeah. I am more curious about how well is it nowadays

Besides it was about just normal streaming, i think, for which arc should not really have a lot of issues

[solemn ridge]

It mostly happened when launching games audio would become choppy for a bit

The Broadcast app is just poorly designed

[buoyant jacinth]

Actually in Phasmophobia i had audio being choppy due to my cpu being shit, i think, kinda fun how somewhere it's gpu and in other places it's cpu

[solemn ridge]

Phasmophobia also just recently got sorta optimized but even still it's most recent update is having performance issues I know Insym went on a rant recently about it

[buoyant jacinth]

Idk, i've been cramping settings to max, 3060 seems to handle it fine(1080p 120fps). I would assume you got better gpu

[shrewd moon]

anyone know what is the problem ? everytime I install mirage the game don't start and crash handler load

[deft cape]

ur probably missing dependencies, i recommend just getting r2modman

[shrewd moon]

Iam already using r2modman

[shrewd moon]

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
299792458-MoreMoneyStart-2.1.0
AinaVT-LethalConfig-1.4.2
Bobbie-MetalRecharging-1.0.0
KoderTeh-Boombox_Controller-1.2.4
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.7.7
Midge-PushCompany-1.2.0
FlipMods-TooManyEmotes-2.1.25
Shadow3layer-Infinite_Running-1.0.0
x753-More_Suits-1.4.3
Verity-TooManySuits-1.1.0
NomnomAB-RollingGiant-2.6.0
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.16.1
Evaisa-LethalThings-0.10.6
x753-Mimics-2.6.3
quackandcheese-ToggleMute-1.3.1
Gemumoddo-LethalEmotesAPI-1.13.1
Gemumoddo-BadAssCompany-1.1.11
FlipMods-ReservedItemSlotCore-2.0.31
FlipMods-ReservedFlashlightSlot-2.0.6
FlipMods-ReservedWalkieSlot-2.0.5
5Bit-VoiceHUD-1.0.4
Bobbie-UniTask-2.5.0
Bobbie-NAudio-2.2.2
qwbarch-BarchLib-1.0.2
qwbarch-Mirage-1.8.1

[eternal bridge]

mad respect for not having a mod that turns the players into goofy ahh characters

[graceful latch]

i think i have 2 of those mods but i never even use them lmao

[buoyant jacinth]

Mmm... ThiccccCompany...

[eternal bridge]

Agrnt

Agent

[deft cape]

i dont see anything wrong, the logs dont show any errors either so i honestly have no clue why it'd be stuck

sorry wasn't able to help

[chilly raven]

Id probably just lower the mods in the pack until it works

[deft cape]

well that's a first

hesa found out mirage doesn't let you join a lobby

and the solution was to use a vpn

and now it works

but mirage just uses steam's network 🤔

[shrewd moon]

[amber grove]

I don't think you can use Mimics and Mirage at the same time

plus Mirage has that functionality already in it right, just disabled on default

[rain mountain]

you're thinking of skinwalkers

mimics is a different mod

[amber grove]

oh this is the ||door ||mod isn't it

[amber grove]

then my advice is remove any dated mods that haven't been updated in a long time, and if you need that functionality, look for other mods that are more recent that can do so. For example, moremoneystart can I think be replaced with a config option in GeneralImprovements

anything that isn't necessary to gameplay should be removed one by one til you find the conflict

I noticed that KarmaForBeingAnnoying in your modlist never had the loaded line, just loading, so maybe that's the cause

[shrewd moon]

I tried to enter with only mirage mod and I wasn't able to enter the game so when I used VPN it fixed

[amber grove]

if a vpn fixed it, maybe you're having some weird networking issue

potentially with a late lobby join mod or a large lobby mod

[solemn ridge]

https://www.twitch.tv/lunxara/clip/ZanyArborealRedpandaBlargNaut-NeCvwqMvKMadMqCw Matty: "Ahhhh" The bees in his voice: "I tried to get inside"

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AwkwardSuccessfulPistachioBloodTrail-0cZyJCvn2iqKVC9K @deft cape

XD

[deft cape]

LMAOO wtf the "js said i'm down" was such a good followup clip

[solemn ridge]

XD

[shrewd moon]

sadly it's my country issue

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SpikyFamousSmoothieTwitchRPG--D4x9RdQhPPXQOxO @deft cape @green knot 😭

[green knot]

Oh pitch work on this mod too xD

[solemn ridge]

LMFAO

Yes

[deft cape]

lmao what mod is that

[solemn ridge]

RandomEnemiesSize by Wexop XD

[spring laurel]

Oh god, what does super large sound like

[light jacinth]

darth vader? :0

[solemn ridge]

@spring laurel lol https://clips.twitch.tv/SmoothLuckySashimiBleedPurple-rSnkcdxTwLnn2V-8

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/GoodAnimatedMooseHassaanChop-J8EIC8TzB01mqasU @deft cape Lmfao

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape XD https://clips.twitch.tv/TemperedAgileMooseLeeroyJenkins-7cRW957i0fGulKlx

[deft cape]

LOOOOOOOL THATS SO PERFECT

[solemn ridge]

Ikr XD

[eternal bridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190731323615232012/1266033546708127869/caption.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190731323615232012/1266044345849483334/caption.gif

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-maxwell-cat-cute-burrito-gif-3284633900842531282

[chilly raven]

Ever see if the AI getting set to outside by mirage was the cause of that bug?

[deft cape]

ah i forgot about it

i'll look at it tomorrow

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistBlazingDogeCoolStoryBob-s0RL83T119x4biFX @deft cape @spring laurel

LOL

I love how the normal tulip snake sounds aren't touched

But the voice mimicing

😭

[livid rose]

Man this mod combiend with GI's changes to masked enemies made it real fuckin confusing. I hadnt known they could also get the equipment of people so i saw one with a flash light and assumed it was my friend cuz they responded to em whenever I spoke and then ended u prealizing it was a mimic when they said a weird line and got chased int oa dead end room lmaoo

[chilly raven]

GI's changes?

[livid rose]

checks Oh GI and Mirage make the same changes im just a lil dummy, tho GI makes it so they dont spin so much on the radar which caught my friend off guard

[deft cape]

oh yeah maybe i should disable radar spinning as well

didn't know GI allows masked to carry equipment now though, that's nice

[livid rose]

Im p sure its cuz GI has the F for flash light button so it puts the flash light on your shoulder and the masked will keep that which is neat and caught me entirely off guard as i hadnt known aha

[chilly raven]

Yeah model attachment mods will do that. Like how reserved item mods will add items to a masked mimicking a player

[amber grove]

Oh, i thought the reservedflashlightslot did the shoulder thing

[livid rose]

It might be that one and i spaced out ob the mods that do little thingd lioe that aha

[weak lance]

hey this is a super random feature request

but im curious

how easily could you implement only haunted players being allowed to hear ghost girl when her player voice is enabled

would be sorta cool

i guess it kinda defeats the point of voice synching but it is sorta weird hearing player voices from the ghost girl who basically doesn't exist on your client

[weak lance]

might also be nice if it could be disabled when ghost girl is invisible to you as the haunted player

[rain mountain]

i thought that was already a thing

[weak lance]

maybe im just confused

but i'm pretty sure i've noticed player voices coming from nowhere when im not being haunted

having only masked, ghost girl, and dogs enabled

[weak lance]

(actual insanity)

[rain mountain]

dress girl should be muted when she's invisible, not sure about only being heard by the haunted player though

[deft cape]

this is already a thing, if it's not working properly then i guess it's bugged :/

[deft cape]

are you using a mod manager or are you manually editing configs

[rain mountain]

that looks like gale's ui to me

[sterile orchid]

its gales

[wicked wedge]

it seems it crashed whilst a masked was attempting to mimic a player who was scaled with little company, the player in question also had a modelreplacementapi suit on at the same time

all mods mentioned are on their latest versions

incase its needed here's the full log as well as the full modlist

im not sure which mod mentioned is causing the issue, but i figured to post it here since its an issue with masked it seems

[deft cape]

not sure why the config would have issues parsing if ur using a mod manager

in any case i'd report that to gale instead, that's not a mirage issue

@wicked wedge these are the last errors in the logs, i'd recommend looking into those mods instead

[08:24:08.2299119] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LittleCompany.components.ItemScaling.ResetItemProperties () (at <674e5d878e1f43afbf2fa43e3c0dbe43>:IL_0006)
LittleCompany.components.ItemScaling.OnDestroy () (at <674e5d878e1f43afbf2fa43e3c0dbe43>:IL_0006)
UnityEngine.Object:DestroyImmediate(Object)
ReservedItemSlotCore.Patches.MaskedEnemyPatcher:AddReservedItemsToMaskedEnemy(MaskedPlayerEnemy)
ReservedItemSlotCore.Patches.MaskedEnemyPatcher:Update(MaskedPlayerEnemy)
MaskedPlayerEnemy:DMD<MaskedPlayerEnemy::Update>(MaskedPlayerEnemy)

[08:24:08.2299119] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LittleCompany.components.ItemScaling.ResetItemProperties () (at <674e5d878e1f43afbf2fa43e3c0dbe43>:IL_0006)
LittleCompany.components.ItemScaling.OnDestroy () (at <674e5d878e1f43afbf2fa43e3c0dbe43>:IL_0006)
UnityEngine.Object:DestroyImmediate(Object)
ReservedItemSlotCore.Patches.MaskedEnemyPatcher:AddReservedItemsToMaskedEnemy(MaskedPlayerEnemy)
ReservedItemSlotCore.Patches.MaskedEnemyPatcher:Update(MaskedPlayerEnemy)
MaskedPlayerEnemy:DMD<MaskedPlayerEnemy::Update>(MaskedPlayerEnemy)

[rain mountain]

mirage has been throwing lots of errors like this lately

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

[solemn ridge]

I tried letting @deft cape know but he's not been replying

[pliant olive]

do I need all 3 dependencies? because everytime I try to place the one and then the other, it tells me to replace the current files of the first one I had

[dark brook]

i think you just accept if you're installing manually

[dark brook]

just replace it and it'll work

if you're doing everything correct

cause its replacing the same files every package has

[pliant olive]

so I start from the top then down right?

[dark brook]

wont matter

[deft cape]

when'd this start happening? sounds more like another mod is breaking mirage

[deft cape]

mb i didnt notice, is it the exact same error for u

if it just started happening it's def another mod screwing with something they shouldn't be

[rain mountain]

i noticed it a few sessions ago, if that's the case i'll do the standard trouble shooting stuff

[deft cape]

kk lmk how it goes

[rain mountain]

@deft cape i have narrowed it down to a specific mod: StarlancerMoons

[gritty gorge]

Huh?? For mirage??

[spare comet]

could someone tell me why the config isnt generating?

[quartz grove]

maybe its just tired

Mirage configs does a lot of work keeping the configs together

they need a nap

[lilac saffron]

guys I got accepted into my dream uni lessgoo

[lilac saffron]

Thank u thank u

[spare comet]

huh

so what should I do

[deft cape]

@twilit monolith any ideas?

[deft cape]

thats for v2, if u dont know what it's about, you can read up on it here: #1200695291972685926 message

[deft cape]

DUB grats bro 🥺

[deft cape]

could you send your logs? if it's failing to generate the config, something might be erroring on startup

[spare comet]

nvm it works now

[deft cape]

ah nice

[spare comet]

Ive got the game dir wrong

[lilac saffron]

Thanks a ton feels great

I got into computer science to be specific

[deft cape]

also just an update on v2: sorry for the constant delays, i'm just really burnt out so i keep end up getting side tracked. currently taking a break from mirage for a bit again just to play the new path of exile league for a bit, and then i'll resume work on mirage afterwards, which is hopefully going to be the beta test soonafter

[deft cape]

lc modder wen

[quartz grove]

let mirage rest

it needs its sleepies

its worked so hard

its needs a choccy milk too

[gritty gorge]

thats wild, makes sense it needs a gpu

[lilac saffron]

gon be good practice :>

[twilit monolith]

Uhhhh, no

What is your code trying to do there?

[deft cape]

the specific line that's erroring is just looping through each SpawnableEnemyWithRarity that exists in each level, and then checks if enemy.enemyType.enemyPrefab.GetComponent<MaskedPlayerEnemy>() is null.
the problem here seems to be that enemy (the SpawnableEnemyWithRarity) is null, or what it references is null

and if the SpawnableEnemyWithRarity itself is null, there's a null being added to the level.Enemies list

forgot to mention, @rain mountain if u want a quick fix for that you can just set EnableOverrideSpawnChance to false, and use something else to modify the spawn rates

[twilit monolith]

Hm. My understanding is that LLL should swap out my blank reference for the appropriate vanilla asset, so I'm not sure why that's happening, but I'll be updating my moons to a more compatible SelectableLevel format, since it interferes a bit with LethalCompanyVariables
@rain mountain do you use LCV by any chance?

[rain mountain]

nah i don't

[twilit monolith]

Well, still may be related anyhow

Might wait for v60 since that's looming over us. Just got back from a vacation and started on building a new deck for my house, and I'm quite tuckered out 🤭

[deft cape]

v60 is coming soon already? that was fast

[solemn ridge]

It's a much smaller update and stuff that was already being worked on from what I understand, some mechanic changes for a few enemies, new scraps and new tile variety for the vanilla interiors

[weak lance]

it's going to include new creatures

as many as 3

new scraps and new tiles are confirmed with "new interiors" as a maybe

[solemn ridge]

I've heard mechanic reworks for 3 creatures lol

[solemn ridge]

He said most likely New Interiors will come later if I remember

[weak lance]

idk where you heard "mechanic reworks" because he hasn't said anything about that in the official channels

[solemn ridge]

Someone said that's what was on the Patreon before

[weak lance]

new interiors have been a can kicked down the road for a while now, and i'm a bit skeptical he'd have time for them with how quickly v60's turnaround was

but it is still on the table nonetheless

[solemn ridge]

Idk how your moons would be causing this, the issue started very recently

[kind gust]

There's at least 3 creature mechanics I'm trying to work out
That doesn't mean mechanics that are already in the game, it means mechanics he wants to implement through new creatures. He just didn't know exactly what those creature will be yet

[solemn ridge]

Ah fair

Well I hope the Vain Shrouds get some changes

Badly

They suck horribly atm

[kind gust]

🙏

[twilit monolith]

Here's hoping that v60 magically quashes all of our errors 🤭

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/WrongObliviousCatFloof-ml4HPX6M0KUv1vG- @deft cape lol

[spring laurel]

Seems the mirage lines play earlier for you, it was even more comedically timed for me

[wary garnet]

is there a possibility to make masked turn into a player ragdoll upon death? It would be great to troll friends with, because they'd think they just killed a real person

[deft cape]

lmfao

[deft cape]

yeah it's cuz of networking, it'll play immediately on the host while the clients play it after they receive the audio data

[deft cape]

you're better off asking in #1188298686560739389, i'm too burnt out to add any new features sadly

[lilac saffron]

will v2 fix this issue? it's a bit annoying asking my friends did you hear that? and they say no

[wary garnet]

aw well that's ok. Don't overwork yourself!

[deft cape]

timing is definitely closer. it won't be exact, but it should be close enough that it's not noticable

[lilac saffron]

great

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CourteousSavageKoupreyHotPokket-k2McGXAKAO5VO8Rb @deft cape XD

[deft cape]

LMFAOOO

the coilhead even laughed at you right after you laughed

[solemn ridge]

XD

[solemn ridge]

That was Mac laughing after not the Coilhead lmfao

[deft cape]

oh i thought it was the coilhead again 🤣

[spring patio]

[20:39:27.8098033] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
[email protected] (SpawnableEnemyWithRarity enemy) (at /Mirage/Patch/RegisterPrefab.fs:75)
Mirage.Patch.RegisterPrefab+modify natural spawns for masked [email protected] (SpawnableEnemyWithRarity delegateArg0) (at <b856c24b535e00050667e0cdf092dac6>:IL_0000)
System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].RemoveAll (System.Predicate`1[T] match) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_004C)
Mirage.Patch.RegisterPrefab+modify natural spawns for masked [email protected] (Microsoft.FSharp.Core.Unit unitVar0) (at /Mirage/Patch/RegisterPrefab.fs:78)
Mirage.Patch.RegisterPrefab+modify natural spawns for masked [email protected] (Microsoft.FSharp.Core.FSharpFunc`2[T,TResult] guard, Microsoft.FSharp.Core.FSharpFunc`2[T,TResult] body) (at /Mirage/Patch/RegisterPrefab.fs:IL_0009)
... repeats last line a dozen times.
Mirage.Patch.RegisterPrefab+modify natural spawns for masked [email protected] (System.IDisposable enum) (at <b856c24b535e00050667e0cdf092dac6>:IL_0038)
Microsoft.FSharp.Core.Operators.Using[T,TResult] (T resource, Microsoft.FSharp.Core.FSharpFunc`2[T,TResult] action) (at D:/a/_work/1/s/src/FSharp.Core/prim-types.fs:5214)
Mirage.Patch.RegisterPrefab+modify natural spawns for masked [email protected] (MaskedPlayerEnemy _arg2) (at /Mirage/Patch/RegisterPrefab.fs:77)
FSharpPlus.Control.Bind.op_GreaterGreaterEquals[T,E,U] (Microsoft.FSharp.Core.FSharpResult`2[T,TError] source, Microsoft.FSharp.Core.FSharpFunc`2[T,TResult] k) (at <e68e201c5389fd652badc99bd11d87ee>:IL_0000)
Mirage.Patch.RegisterPrefab+RegisterPrefab.modify natural spawns for masked enemies () (at /Mirage/Patch/RegisterPrefab.fs:56)
(wrapper dynamic-method) TimeOfDay.DMD<TimeOfDay::Start>(TimeOfDay)

As far as I can tell everything works still. Just reporting incase you gather something from this I'm not.

[rain mountain]

do you have StarlancerMoons?

[spring patio]

Yes I do

[rain mountain]

that would be why. not sure when it'll be resolved

i thiiiink it's breaking the override masked spawns setting? @twilit monolith any chance you can take a look at this now that you're able to work on modding again?

[twilit monolith]

Did this occur on one of my moons?

[spring patio]

I believe it was just when loading into the ship, not having landed.

[twilit monolith]

Ah right, I forgot the circumstances of that error. After v60 drops, I'll update my mods and that error should go away

[spring patio]

Best I can tell it's harmless, which is why I'm only reporting it now after I've cleaned up a bunch of other errors. Maybe it causes issues on Starlancer moons, but I hadn't caught on to that.

[twilit monolith]

Yeah I think it's just a brief thing where Mirage says "Hey, I can't see your things. SHOW THEM TO ME" and my moons just blindly walk past it

[fervent trail]

cant find config file? ive been told its mom.llama smt but its not here

[pine creek]

Aiming for compatibility with this mod and trying find out what happens with the masked model, as i'm unable to change the meshRenderer materials while having this mod on. Only after a few seconds after disabling the "MimicPlayer" component. Could someone give me a quick hint in the right direction, please? Been looking through the source code, without success so far :)

[viral obsidian]

I thought the model isn't touched by mirage. Could be wrong tho

[amber grove]

I know there's a bug going on with the masked models going invisible, seems to be a game bug though, not a mod bug

[warm rivet]

Is this mod able to be used with "Maskedoverhaulfork" or nah

[round swan]

quite a bit of feature overlap but it does anyways. "Dont Touch MaskedPlayerEnemy.mimickingPlayer" should just be enabled in the MEOF config.

[deft cape]

have you run the game once after downloading the mod? the config is generated at runtime

[deft cape]

as far as im aware, the only thing i touch in the model is disabling the masked texture, but that shouldn't be causing issues: https://github.com/qwbarch/mirage/blob/43baec0884a39e0ebec8b9718f9836f6f2b30ea1/package/mirage/src/Mirage/Patch/SpawnMaskedEnemy.fs#L122-L128

could you show some logs of the error?

[pine creek]

There aren't any errors. I go through any meshRenderer in the MaskedPlayerEnemy gameobject and through the 3 LOD SkinnedMeshRenderer and replace the materials. Without Mirage it works, while with it only does a few seconds after spawning the masked. Will continue looking for something that could cause this behaviour later today :)

[deft cape]

@pine creek could you try enabling masked textures in the mirage config and see if that fixes it

[fervent trail]

Yea I did but still can't find it 🥴

[pine creek]

"EnableMask" in the config?

[pine creek]

found out that waiting for a frame till changing materials works just fine 👌🏻 will take that^^

[dawn cloud]

anyone know if its possible to add nametags to the mask?

[deft cape]

are you using r2modman?

[deft cape]

doesn't GI do this?

[dawn cloud]

I dont use Gl

I will try tho thx

[tropic dome]

Set to true to never delete recordings (ignores the option set by DeleteRecordingsPerRound).

Would this mean after like, 15 hours of play I'd have an insane amount of recordings?

Tho after game closes they get deleted right?

Or would they stay anyway?

[amber grove]

GI you can either add nametags or just remove all player names

Also recommended to disable masked spinning on the radar

[fervent trail]

Uh no, I'm using thunderstore

[deft cape]

if you set it to true they'll stay, so you'll eventually have a ton of recordings

if you leave it at false then it'll get deleted when you close the game

[deft cape]

hm not sure then sorry 😅

[tropic dome]

So in theory I could prune the unconvincing recordings and only keep ones that could trick my friends?

[deft cape]

well as soon as you talk it's gonna fill up again, so there's not much of a point on doing that

better to just wait for v2 if you want something better

if you want to read up on it: #1200695291972685926 message

[tropic dome]

Oooo very cool

[safe sundial]

would you know what is causing mimiced voices to be distorted?

like the sound of the voices from mobs sounds different than the original voice

[lilac saffron]

do u have randomsizes mod?

it has an option to change sound pitch and it affects mirage too

i found out about that the hard way lmao

[safe sundial]

Ohh gotcha ^^ that's great to know, thank you

[lilac saffron]

you're welcome

[open flume]

Chat me and my friends played the other night but one of my friends couldn't get this mod to launch. I couldn't figure it out and we just played without it. When the console pops up when launching the game it would give an error and skip Mirage. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem

For some extra context the musical ghost mod also didn't load

When I get on tonight I'll try removing ghost mod too

[wary garnet]

I have a TON of mods, and never ecnounctered any issues with mirage, I mean on bootup it throws some errors at me, but other than that it works fine

[thin sonnet]

Disable Multithreading on LoaforcSoundAPI if you have LethalResonance.
It reduces A LOT the crashes on the bootup

[alpine owl]

Hello! My friends is gettings these error messages in cmd

[runic sable]

I am getting this alongside this

[deft cape]

mb i completely forgot to look at this channel recently

[deft cape]

do you use a modmanager? or custom install? if you're doing a custom install i recommend using r2modman instead

usually startup issues is because people are missing dependencies while manually installing

[deft cape]

already mentioned in your other thread, but this is likely a mod conflict, this error doesn't happen when running mirage on its own

the last time i've seen that happen was when #1253705079605956640 had a bug, but it was promptly fixed (perhaps you're on an older version of this mod?)

[deft cape]

are you on windows 10? looks like your'e missing a codec that's likely from an unsupported os

[open flume]

Thank you for your response. We all rely on Thunderstore mod manager for our mods. I think that is different from R2Modman so i will ask him to try that instead

And by musical ghost mod i meant haunted harpist lol

Either way i probably won't look at it tonight but I'll get back to my computer soon

[deft cape]

nah thunderstore mod manager is the same, so it's a bit odd that this would happen

could you drop a log just in case

whenever you're able to of course, no rush

[open flume]

Yeah I'll ask him

[open flume]

Oh he just reminded me that the log crashes after only a few seconds

it would be difficult to get a log

The important detail is that even after he re-installed the mod and enabled it but mirage doesn't load in the log like it does on my computer

[deft cape]

i'd try to run mirage by itself first just to isolate the issue and see if mirage itself is an issue for him

[open flume]

okay

[deft cape]

lmk how it goes, ping me if you need help since i might miss the messages here

[open flume]

I would be doing all this in an instant but I don't have his computer lol

[deft cape]

yeah no worries

[open flume]

He tried running Mirage only and got this error

To me that would suggest it can't find the file

[deft cape]

that's bizzare

i've never seen that exception b4 once in my life

very curious why only he's run into this though

or maybe just nobody else that's had this issue has reported it

[open flume]

crazy rare bug lol, he's the only one of my usual group with this issue

and I think it worked for him in V50

if that helps

[deft cape]

hmm

it feels like an assembly is failing to load for whatever reason if it's erroring at this point

but i'm not entirely sure either

no idea if this will work, but could you ask him to maybe try installing mirage with gale mod manager instead?

and just make sure barchlib is also installed (idk if that modman will also automatically install dependencies)

[open flume]

this gale mod manager is sus lol

does the yml thing mean anything to you

we tried gale mod manager

it didn't change anything

This is where the mod is located

I apologize about the profile name

Interestingly haunted harpist loads

not sure if that's related to anything

buy the error is still the same

@deft cape

[deft cape]

galemodman is 100% safe

@open flume could you ask him to install only mirage with it though

and not import your current profile

just to isolate the issue again

mirage + barchlib

[open flume]

and bepin'?

this is a new test profile

only Barchlib and Mirage

We might be out of luck tonight

yeesh

@deft cape

[deft cape]

damn...

dont think there's much i can do about that tbh

sorry couldn't help much

[open flume]

wait if bepin was not installed why does it show bepinex

[deft cape]

bepinex is definitely installed

[open flume]

He didn't get it from the mod browser, Is it just there by default or is there something else?

[deft cape]

most likely

he could try and manually add it toh is mod list but im pretty sure bepinex is already there

otherwise like you said, there'd be no logs about bepinex

[open flume]

Okay well thank you trying. You're mod is a fine addition to this game and I do love it

have some great clips from the "masked"

[deft cape]

glad you like it 😄

[open flume]

Might have to try masked enemy overhaul fork while he has this issue in the meantime

[deft cape]

yeah lmk if you ever have any questions again in the future (and just ping me so i dont miss it by accident)

[void forge]

The masked appears as invisible sometimes, I believe its a known bug from here?

[thick plank]

When I asked several people said it was a vanilla bug

[void forge]

Weird, i've been playing for too long and its my first time encountering it

[wispy fable]

Does mirage use ai?

[tepid lava]

nope

[wispy fable]

okay thx

[tepid lava]

i heard it will use speech recognition in the future however

[wispy fable]

yeah wasnt sure if it already did that

[tepid lava]

nah rn its just random

[wispy fable]

alr

the voice is stored locally though right?

or are the audio files uploaded somewhere

[tepid lava]

local

[wispy fable]

okay

[tepid lava]

stored here (at least for me)

[wispy fable]

okay

yeah wanted to switch to mirage from the other popular skinwalker voice mod but wasnt sure about the stuff regarding privacy

but if its local thats alr

[tepid lava]

other people should still hear the same thing at the same time

not sure how exactly it works

[wispy fable]

hmm

[wicked wedge]

from my understanding it saves clips of only your own mic (only when lethal company decides its active like push to talk or the voice activity threshold) and retransmits them through the voice chat functions, but places the audio source onto the entity that is speaking in your voice

and unlike other popular skinwalker mods, because its saving YOUR voice to YOUR computer and then sending it out like its a voice chat function, it says the same thing on everyone's clients at the same time and it sounds like its coming from a player.

if i'm wrong abt anything please correct me cuz this is just what i've gathered from my experience playing and reading stuff in this channel.

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/3fs-cool-ok-thumbs-up-gif-17645381669787861534

[light jacinth]

pretty much

oh yeah the recordings also get cleared out when you exit the game (by default, but u could change the configuration for this)

[wispy fable]

okay

thanks!

great mod, the fact that every player can hear the voice is really awesome

[edgy axle]

set MuteLocalPlayerVoice to true for greater deception

[wispy fable]

yep :P

i will definitely do that

[scenic ridge]

how do i config the mod? installed manually btw (NVM found it lmao)

[rain mountain]

getting this error on v61
[20:48:11.0470340] [Error :qwbarch.Mirage] RegisterPrefab#``modify natural spawns for masked enemies`` was called while Prefab has not been initialized yet.

[solemn ridge]

https://github.com/notnotnotswipez/MoreCompany/pull/80/files @deft cape you need to update Mirage after the new MoreCompany update to masked enemies can copy cosmetics properly

as of right now they no longer copy head cosmetics

[deft cape]

i don't even copy cosmetics myself

that was all morecompany itself to begin with

[deft cape]

hmm ill look into this later tonight

[solemn ridge]

Ah well check the changes and see what you need to implement

[deft cape]

nothing really for me to implement though

i don't even have anything implemented

that's gonna be something i'd have to discuss with 1a3 to see what the issue is

@flint heron would you happen to know why it'd no longer copy head cosmetics when used with mirage? to begin with, mirage doesn't copy cosmetics itself, it just lets morecompany handle it

in mirage i just select the mimickingplayer and that's about it

[flint heron]

umm not sure tbf, I didn't really change much so it should still work fine

[deft cape]

checked just in case, mirage sets the mimicking player during MaskedPlayerEnemy.Start as a prefix patch

ah weird

my guess is that it has to do with patch timings though

maybe the new patches applies after mine

[flint heron]

well morecompany does it in SetEnemyOutside

so it shouldnt conflict

[deft cape]

hm weird

[flint heron]

tbf i dont actually remember if i tested masked enemy

cuz ik i tested the dead bodies

I'll give it a try in a few mins and see if it works with just morecompany

[deft cape]

ah sounds good

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I think it's a bug with MoreCompany, cus even after I died to one my head cosmetics vanished

If not MoreCompany I suspect GeneralImprovements if it has a patch for it

[flint heron]

actually nvm i see what you mean

that's intentional

since it didnt make sense for head cosmetics to show as masks look weird when overlapped over the masked's mask

hmm i guess i could have it enabled by default then if SetMaskType gets triggered it hides it

[rain mountain]

i think just a simple option for this behavior makes the most sense. it doesn't matter for me personally since i used Mirage but i imagine there are people who would like to display the cosmetics regardless of how it interacts with the masks. that's how i would want it personally if i wasn't using Mirage

[umbral galleon]

Question, how does that rate work ? It's a multiplicator of base rate, a new rate or something else ?
We got 2 mask on almost each moons with friends, so we try to understand how rate work.

(Also, a lot of mask were doing weird things, like walking slowly toward a corner and stay here. It's the normal mask AI, something from this mod or from another?)

Also the " Maximum number of natural spawns a masked enemy should have." is set to 2, but we managed to get 4 different mask one time (3 Natural and me who was "eaten") We suspect it's another mods who do a "More player = More spawn" thing but we aren't sure

[spare comet]

does mirage work with v60?

[thick plank]

First of all, the default of 15 is really high. I have it set to 2 in my pack and still see a Masked every other moon I go to. This value is, from what I understand, a straight up %. If it’s set to 15 then about 15% of the enemies that spawn will be Masked

I think the grouping and waiting is vanilla, I don’t think Mirage messes with AI at all

[thick plank]

Spawning above the cap idk

[thick plank]

I think they’re working on some issues with the new version of MoreCompany right now

[spare comet]

oh whats wrong with it

[thick plank]

Not copying cosmetics correctly right now

[deft cape]

normally when you use spawn control mods, it's spawn weights, but for mirage it calculates the weight based off the percentage you give it

so it's the % chance a masked spawns, each time the game attempts to spawn an enemy

which is why 15% is actually quite high

the issue with having it set to max 2 masked but you having more than that is because another mod is overwriting the value

so in this case you'd have to find out what other mod you have that modifies that value and then adjust it there

[deft cape]

@spare comet seems like it's fine, other than that you'd probably have to disable custom spawns cuz of the error that nickham showed here

i'll look into that later tonight most likely

[deft cape]

nah that's just a morecompany thing

[spare comet]

whats the time for you rn?

[deft cape]

4:34pm, so probably will look into custom spawns in a good 6 hours or so

[flint heron]

just to make sure I'm not missing something it's specifically head cosmetics that aren't working right?

[spare comet]

okay thx

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge

[solemn ridge]

Yes

[flint heron]

kk cool

[solemn ridge]

Everything that can be on the head

Hats, goggles, masks

Etc

[flint heron]

yeye

[onyx summit]

So is it not recommended to use mirage right now?

[solemn ridge]

Mirage is fine it's more so waiting on MoreCompany to update

[hollow violet]

I didnt have any personal issues with it yesterday, i think the only issue looking up is the custom spawn config (which can be disabled looks like)

[onyx summit]

Cool. I took it out for awhile for rotation purposes. Now that they are use to silent mimics again I'm wanting to add it back in.

[solemn ridge]

MoreCompany update just went live that includes the fix

[onyx summit]

Look in your DMs at what I sent yesterday as my response to this 🙂

[solemn ridge]

I did lol

[onyx summit]

You're truelly my hero! lol

I will leave you a gift next time i'm in seichi tonight

[thick plank]

Hell yeah right when I needed it

[subtle ridge]

whoever made this mod is a genius

thats all i have to say

[swift violet]

the V2 will

tho

[wispy fable]

Okay

[onyx summit]

So the result of the Mirage Surprise return. The first talking Mimic baited a player and as they grabbed her he said I've got something to show ya! 😆 🤣 😂 Such a perfect return.

Then later a Mimic sneezed and the player said bless you to them.....we were all dead 😆

[eternal bridge]

MASKED, MASKED

[wind crown]

Suggestion: Set a gigabyte limit for IgnoreRecordingsDeletion so that it deletes according to the space

And also please add a chance for a mob to be a skinwalker

[tepid condor]

Ngl feels like it does use ai bc how often it randomly picks the best lines lol

[wind crown]

are the changes you make in lethalconfig ingame for mirage realtime or do you have to restart the game?

[wicked wedge]

is there any way to prevent mirage from just storing like keyboard clicks or computer fan sounds and playing those back?

my friends dont hear them thru my mic but the mimics tend to repeat them

[wind crown]

whats the chance for a skinwalker to change the pitch of the playback? would be nice to be able to configure this

[lilac saffron]

if u have randomsizes mod then the pitch change from that mod also affects mirage, found that out the hard way

[spring tangle]

Does anyone know the path where the voice clips are saved to?

[latent depot]

Does anyone know how big the voice clip files are? Kinda cautious about letting it save indefinitely bc of space concerns

[tawdry bough]

pretty sure its lethal company steam folder.

[wind crown]

oooh

[wind crown]

seems to be "*:\games\steamapps\common\Lethal Company\Mirage"

Aren't collected audio files automatically deleted when you join a new lobby?

I have deleterecordingsperround set to false

and

ignorerecordingsdeletion also false

[latent depot]

No yeah I mean that I'm pondering toggling ignorerecordingsdeletion because that'd be fun as fuck, but worried about the size

but since its seconds worth of voice clips realistically theyre probs small

[wind crown]

yea i thought the same way

[wind crown]

that was a genuine question im wondering about. i asked this channel

[wind crown]

well when i take a look at my folder with the audio files it collected they vary between 1.4 MB and 4KB so it varies a lot. theyre also very different lengths so thats why

[latent depot]

Cool that gives me a pretty good notion, ty!

[latent depot]

Oh ok to answer your question I'm pretty sure with your settings they'll be deleted when you close the game

not when you join a new lobby

[wind crown]

yea thats the thing. theyre still in there and the game has been closed since yesterday evening :D

[latent depot]

huh

[wind crown]

idk

[latent depot]

maybe its best to ping @deft cape for this

[wind crown]

the folder contains 171MB

661 files

im wondering how it works when you enable it so that it never deletes files... do newly joined clients just automatically download the audio files from the others so that it syncs properly between the clients?

@deft cape

[wind crown]

I think this belongs in here:

[rain mountain]

im not exactly sure which side chooses the audio files to play but i think they're uploaded only when needed so no syncing on join

[sturdy python]

I think it sends the file for others to read when it is going to get used and doesn’t get saved for other player’s or something like that

[rain mountain]

yeah pretty much

[deft cape]

doing something rn so i'll get to your questions later

[tepid condor]

should disable spawn overhall fix there being like 7 mimics spawning in? we have it as default 2 but vow has so many for some reason

[deft cape]

having more than 2 means another mod is overwriting the max spawns, but yes, disabling custom spawns will make it go back to vanilla spawn rates (none in a lot of maps)

[deft cape]

that's correct yeah

oh i just scrolled up and it looks like everything has already been answered 😂

[tepid condor]

is there any known mods that do that atm?

[dawn cloud]

Any new progress on v2

[tepid condor]

i looked into my mods and the only thing i saw that could do somthing was diversity and the more emotes

[solemn ridge]

He's taking a break currently due to some burnout

[dawn cloud]

Oh ok

[wind crown]

wasnt there once someone who worked on keyboard sounds not getting picked up by mirage?

[tight ivy]

does anyone else have the problem where the masked have laggy repeating voices sometimes?

[rain mountain]

this is coming in v2

[light jacinth]

oh no mo keyboard sounds being picked up in v2 fr? 😮

[raven condor]

hi, just wondering if the mod works with v62?

[quartz grove]

I'd assume it does

[tepid condor]

ye

[shut sapphire]

question there are no enemies except masked how to fix this

maybe I need to change config?

[lethal rune]

hello everyone, I have a question about the mirage mod, how to make a mimic (friend) appear after the death of a friend? and also so that these facial expressions appear on their own?

[thick plank]

Do you mean

only masked are spawning, no other enemies are spawning
Or
only masked are mimic’ing players voices

[thick plank]

The mod config has an option for a percentage chance to replace a player who dies with a mask, copying their voice, suit, and cosmetics. You could set this to 100%. It has a related settings for if it only applies if they’re alone.

[deft cape]

could u post logs to see what the issue might be coming from?

[deft cape]

you're probably looking for SpawnOnPlayerDeath (could be named something slightly different, dont really remember)

not sure what you mean by facial expressions, but if you're talking about cosmetics, that's handled by the mods that applies the cosmetics themselves

[deft cape]

yep there's better voice activity detection so it doesn't record as much garbage as it does right now

still a bit burnt out from coding rn though so im still taking a break for now, no clue when i'll be working on mirage again

[solemn ridge]

I use DisssonanceVoiceSettings so keyboard sounds and stuff never get picked up by mimics anymore

I just need that fix for the volumes being too loud

[solemn ridge]

I think it was Matty that looked at your code and found out why they don't follow the adjusted volume sliders btw

It's an oversight

[deft cape]

o

@fiery hazel can u elaborate a bit 🥺

[deft cape]

that's only for the local player

all other player's volumes are set by the volume mixer or w/e it's called

i'll have to go dig for it rn

[solemn ridge]

Yeah cus he said there's no setting to lower other players from his look at the code

[deft cape]

https://github.com/qwbarch/mirage/blob/43baec0884a39e0ebec8b9718f9836f6f2b30ea1/package/mirage/src/Mirage/Unity/MimicVoice.fs#L144

AFAIK this should follow the volumes set by the sliders

[solemn ridge]

I wouldn't be surprised if maybe the volume mixer calling stuff just stopped working at some point, in which case you could add a config option probably to adjust the volumes when you add support for the new enemy

[bold ruin]

Is this host-sided or normal client sided

Because if its client sided

[deft cape]

both

everyone needs it

[bold ruin]

IM SCHITZO

[deft cape]

can't sync voices without everyone having it otherwise

[bold ruin]

As in if i host with the mod and others join and dont do they still hear voices at all?

Aka is everyone having it only for syncing

[deft cape]

nope nothing, only you as the host would hear the voices

[bold ruin]

Im schitzo now

[deft cape]

cuz voice clips are sent over network

in order to do the syncing

[bold ruin]

How to become schitzo in lethal: this mod being the only one having it

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge but yea AFAIK this makes it work with the sliders and was fine last i tested, unless i just completely remember wrong...

[solemn ridge]

@flint heron Maybe you can provide some insight as to why this doesn't work properly for Mirage

[deft cape]

😂 😂

[solemn ridge]

Idk when you last tested it though

Lol

It could just be code that changed

XD

[bold ruin]

I shall become a schizophrenic

[solemn ridge]

Cus I can always tell out mimics now cus they're so much louder

Hehe

[bold ruin]

Are there any enemy mimic voices mods that are host sided where only one needs the mod and all hear it

[deft cape]

like probably 7 months ago

idk maybe zeekers changed what controls the sliders?

[solemn ridge]

Well I mean are you planning to push out an update that adds support for the new enemy soon? Since you're prioritizing V2 stuff a workaround would just be a config option to adjust the global volume of all mimic voices

[deft cape]

oh right i forgot there's new enemies

[solemn ridge]

Ye

[deft cape]

i'll try and get to it in the next couple days

[solemn ridge]

[deft cape]

if i forget just ping me again

[solemn ridge]

Will do lol

[bold ruin]

Pitch up all the voices and then send them out

[deft cape]

ill try and look into the sliders when i add the new enemies, since that's a pretty big deal

but i honestly have no clue where to start looking at

if the audio mixer group is no longer the thing

[solemn ridge]

Yeah maybe 1A3 can help you

It's gotta be something simple to fix

[deft cape]

hopefully 🙏

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestBitterVultureFailFish-hSc7SDC3sT3V1jNc Btw @deft cape Lmao

[deft cape]

lmao the drive-by clip

[flint heron]

You'd just set the audio source volume to match the volume of the actual player's voice audio source

[deft cape]

is that just how zeekers does it now, or was i always just doing it wrong with the audio mixer?

[flint heron]

That's how morecompany does it

Since you can't create audio mixer groups on runtime

So the extra players re-use an existing audio mixer group

[deft cape]

thanks, sounds like it'll be an easy fix then

[deft cape]

unfortunate that's the case since that'd definitely be cleaner

[thick plank]

Oh this mod looks sick for stopping hearing my friend’s keyboards clacking. Does it still work fine I see it’s pretty old?

[solemn ridge]

It does yeah

[flint heron]

yeah and it'd mean that pitch would work correctly

[sour vault]

has anyone every had an issue with the mimics not attacking players while using this mod? i tried it for the first time yesterday and the mimics would just stand still when they spawned in.

[bold ruin]

I think thats normal unless its for an entire minute or smthn, something with a stopandstare phase

[sour vault]

ok! pretty sure it was over a minute. got stuck staring at a coil head and the mimic popped out of the vent in front of me 😂

[thick plank]

Yeah I’ve had that happen several times for a weirdly extended period of time. I don’t think this mod affects Masked AI at all tho so might be a vanilla bug?

[warped sierra]

excuse me for asking something dull but does mirage still working right now with v62? (i'm not good at english tho)

[tepid lava]

it does from what i know

[warped sierra]

oh sound good and could i change english to my language in config?

[tepid lava]

If you talk in a certain language it will use said language, because it just records you and ur friends voices

[warped sierra]

i see

i thought like

i need to say exactly "is anyone here" to make mimic said "i'm here"

[tepid lava]

Iirc thats going to be a thing in v2

[warped sierra]

oh i see

like they're smarter?

[tepid lava]

^

and this is what is planned

[warped sierra]

i need to use google translater to translate it XD

anyway that's all i need to know, tysm

[warped sierra]

excuse me, how could i find tutorial about installing this mod?

[bold ruin]

For the new ai stuff, so if you are convincing you can make a masked a helper until it remembers that its supposed to kill you

[bold ruin]

Get thunderstore

[tepid lava]

or r2modman, or even better Gale

[rain mountain]

mindboggling that there are still people that use TMM

[bold ruin]

Rlly? It runs on overwolf which is curseforge

[tepid lava]

TMM and r2modman are extremely slow for me

i'd always recommend gale

id only recommend r2modman for compatibility with games that dont use bepinex

and never TMM

[bold ruin]

Me and my friends use tmm, and some does mithzan

[rain mountain]

overwolf's software is garbage and i strongly advise you to switch to either of the open source alternatives available

[bold ruin]

It is? I havent had a problem w it

[tepid lava]

i find TMM extremely bloated for what it does

[rain mountain]

it's bloated, slow, invasive and full of ads

[tepid lava]

you never really realise how fast other managers are till you try it yourself

[bold ruin]

Speed isnt a big problem for me

[bold ruin]

Well the ads are always in the same 1 spot

And i dont actually notice them lol

[tepid lava]

i'd say at least give it a shot, there's no downside to trying, but thats fair enough

[merry copper]

Hey, I'm just wondering if this mod works on v62? Thanks

[tepid lava]

yup

[merry copper]

Yay :D

[tight grove]

Does Mirage work on other languages? or is it only English?

[tepid lava]

#1200695291972685926 message

[thick plank]

There’s no voice processing at all it just replays exactly what you said

[lethal rune]

hello everyone again, my friend and I had a problem, the MaskedEnemyOverhaul and MaskedEnemyOverhaulfork and Skinwalkers mod does not work for us, why?

it doesn't even work on the old version

[thick plank]

Remove those and just use Mirage

[lethal rune]

I did so, but we didn't have any minics after death, someone drop the mod settings so that there would always be a mimic after death and that mimics would appear on the map

[thick plank]

Yeah you can find the settings to do that in the config

[lethal rune]

where?

[thick plank]

Like where is the config? In r2modman click config editor then click Mirage

[lethal rune]

And what's next?

can you tell me how to set up the mod correctly?

[thick plank]

Once you have the config open just read through the settings and you’ll see the ones you want

There’s a setting to make it spawn masks when people die

It’s a % chance, you can set it to 100 if you want

[runic sable]

mirage still doesn't work on my end, but If I'm host it works...?

[formal juniper]

bro i feel like it doesnt work

@deft cape

i feel like only my voice is being recorded

its working but most of the time its me

[thick plank]

Luck

Mod definitely works

[deft cape]

@runic sable @formal juniper does everyone in your groups have the mod installed

[formal juniper]

Yes and I noticed they do hear it but it’s almost always my voice I don’t think we have heard another voice except for mine

[deft cape]

@formal juniper can you ask one of your friends for their logs, just so i can debug a bit

there should be an option on r2modman (assuming you're using that) to copy the logs

[deft cape]

are you trying to make them spawn after death all the time? you have to set that to 100% yourself

[formal juniper]

im using thunderstore..

[deft cape]

tmm is the same as r2

so u can grab the logs the same way

[formal juniper]

okay but they are currently asleep so ill send it in a few hours

[deft cape]

yeah no rush

[fading sapphire]

Hey i'm really sorry for Necroing this but i've just got this recently quite a few times after coming back to Lethal, did you manage to find a solution or narrow it down to Mirage?

Reading more into it LCMaxSoundsFix seems to be the culprit, snuck into my pack via Starlancer Moons, sorry for the ping Lun, nice seeing you all again though!

[tawdry bough]

this was too good hahahaha

[polar skiff]

Mirage is working with v60-62 right?

[ionic shoal]

did you actually test and find LCMaxSoundsFix is the cuprit? or is that just what someone said somewhere? 😮 i also get this issue.

[fading sapphire]

I read more into that conversation I referenced and I guess all roads pointed to it, no actual testing has been done though

[ionic shoal]

ah ok, i just also use it cause of starlancer moons/etc and get that issue :3

[twilit monolith]

I really hope it's not, unless there's some other alternative available lol

[thick plank]

I haven’t hit the issue a single time in the past few weeks using Mirage and LCMaxSoundsFix

15-20h of gameplay with 8 people

[rigid frost]

@deft cape is it possible to make masked enemies drop their mask upon death?

[bold ruin]

Yes

Theres actually already a mod that does this

Cant get its link rn tho

[rigid frost]

oh is it TakeThatMaskOff?

[bold ruin]

probably i forget

[smoky berry]

guysss

is there a possibility

or maybe WILL be a possibility later

to change a pitch for some mobs

like, lets say flowerman will have a +6 pitch which will sound deeper

there is that thing in skinwalkers mod, but iirc its not configurable

[ionic shoal]

yes

[ionic shoal]

happened one time last night to my group, happens once in a while most weeks, just never had any clue why.

[alpine sigil]

does local volume option work?

also, idk if mirage can control it but, itd be sickl in the maskeds could hold items occasionally

[nova harbor]

What interior mod is this?

[tawdry bough]

lc_office

[nova harbor]

Thanks

[deft cape]

i believe #1240985198485573743 does this, i could be wrong though

[deft cape]

yes, but it only affects enemies that are mimicking only your voice

i still need to fix volume sliders for MoreCompany players (it currently only works on vanilla)

i'll try and get to fixing/changing the v1 things that were mentioned over the past few weeks

sometime this week hopefully

[alpine sigil]

sweet man, this mod rocks btw!

[deft cape]

thanks glad you like it 😄

[thin sonnet]

Hello qwbarch, I hope everything is ok

[gusty remnant]

Yes but rn the modder wants to fix his network variables
This means that seeing a masked holding item is pretty rare atm

[deft cape]

yoo what's up moroxide, i'm doing alright. just a bit burnt out still so haven't been touching mirage but i'll try and work on v1 soon either way

[wispy fable]

Does the configuration option sync for modded enemies cloning voices?

As in, is it enough if I change it in my config as the host or do my friends need to change their mirage config as well?

[onyx summit]

Any idea what causes mimics to sometimes be invisible with just their gear showing?

[thick plank]

I brought that up and someone said it was a vanilla bug

But in vanilla you can’t see them at all so you don’t notice

Happens once in a while to me

[onyx summit]

Also @deft cape this mod is great! You have no idea the hell mimics have put is through. Their voice lines have been way too accurate for their situation. Had one at main as I parked the cruiser tell me "Fiend is still alive in main." So I get out and respond with I'm here to take care of it 🙃 .......nope no I wasn't cause there was no Fiend at main just a super smart mimic.

Had another one singing her elevator music WHILE HITTING THE BUTTON to ride the elevator WITH ME ON TOP OF IT. Like how? How did the Mimic know to sing in there?

Another Mimic shows up to another player and says "I thought you were gonna wait for me" he trys to respond back to him but yeah you know what happened.

[deft cape]

all settings are synced from the host to all clients, except for a couple options that are noted in their descriptions

[deft cape]

lmaoo glad to hear your experience with it 😄

[rigid frost]

it seems like players who are converted to masked then teleported to the ship, then killing the masked doesn't sync with other clients

[solemn ridge]

We still gonna be getting that update soon that fixes voices being too loud and adds support for the Maneater?

I'm tired of mimics blaring my ears

[wispy fable]

Thanks!

[onyx summit]

That sounds odd. We never had that happen.

[rigid frost]

It happens consistently for us (me and my friends), and effects you even if you're host or client

I do play with a big mod pack so it could be an incompatibility

[onyx summit]

Can you provide a better detailed explanation on what is happening?

[rigid frost]

naturally spawned enemy concerts a player into masked -> masked player then gets tp'ed to ship by another player -> player kills masked but spectating clients still see masked as alive and trying to kill player (player remains unharmed)

the masked ai still works correctly, it's just its death isn't syncing

[onyx summit]

Definitely a conflict somewhere.

[deft cape]

a bit busy with irl stuff rn 😅
i'm gonna try to get to it this week sometime though, hopefully in a day or two

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge will probably be able to get to it tomorrow actually

[solemn ridge]

Hoorah!!!!

I'll be so happy if it releases before stream

lol

[deft cape]

if i have time tonight ill just try and release the fix just for that first

and then release the other stuff i had planned

which i dont quite remember, gonna have to scroll up to see lmaoo

[solemn ridge]

Yeah the fix for voices being too loud is gonna be fantastic

Can't wait to be fooled by mimics again

XD

[deft cape]

yeahh mb for taking so long lmao

[solemn ridge]

Lol it's all good

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge oof i have a bit of a problem, my account's git lfs (storage) is full, so github won't let me even download the v1 code

gonna have to contact github and wait for them to fix that b4 i can even work on it

[solemn ridge]

Rippp

[light jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[fossil crag]

Hi!! I sent this issue in #help-and-troubleshooting :
Hey! We're having an issue with one of our players and Mirage where they were having audio processing issues (their mic would spit out a loud buzzing, I can send a video of it). Is there any way to fix that? They had the same issue with Skinwalkers and we were really hoping to be able to use one of these mods. I'm so sorry for both the other mods in the video and the loud noises in the clip but these are the three noises we've been hearing pretty consistantly. We tried push to talk but as soon as they press push to talk, it'll make the noise again (show in the last example)

[deft cape]

that sounds like a problem with regular voice chat, which would be a problem with dissonance rather than skinwalkers/mirage.
i'm afraid i don't know a solution for that, sorry 😅

[fossil crag]

thats okay!! pointing us in a different direction is still an answer!! thank you!

So even if we were only using in game chat, it would still be discord?

Because this only has ever happened when we've had either mirage or skinwalkers in a pack, we have a day-to-day pack we've used and this sound issue doesn't come up at all. Could it be any sort of update issue they need to do? We just really want to be able to play with these mods

[deft cape]

i honestly have no clue why this would only happen when skinwalkers/mirage is installed, since neither mod touches voice chat, other than recording the audio taken from the voice chat system that the game uses (dissonance)

does your friend happen to maybe use a very non-standard microphone setup? like it recording as dual-channel audio or something? (if they don't know what that is then the answer is most likely no)

[fossil crag]

I was just asking and they said they don't know (but it's a corsair wireless headset which i would assume is standard)

[wintry spoke]

A bit of data for y'all! Someone posted a clip with this same issue in Zeekerss' official server.

#750645985411203182 message

(At least, I'm pretty sure it's the same issue. There's a resemblance!)

[fossil crag]

I am not in Zeekerss' server, was there any solution posed there? Or is this a case of collecting data and waiting/trial and error

[wintry spoke]

Nope, no solution there, just a request for help.

[fossil crag]

Ah okay!

We rebooted the file without mirage in our pack and haven't been able to recreate the noise

[wintry spoke]

Here's a link to their video. The caption was:

why does my mic do this? it only happens in lethal company. it starts glitching at 17 seconds

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/989345916462964746/1281866695228784661/Lethal_Company_2024.09.07_-_00.37.18.1012.DVR.mp4?ex=66de9864&is=66dd46e4&hm=ea75e3c37b4eb80fbf2385e75e3196f847ccc6970be44369fbe6b092fe2b6ec7&

[deft cape]

oh that sounds more like what i've noticed before, but that happens with no mods installed for me

mostly during frame drops, at least for me

[granite musk]

the only audio bug i ever had was people drowning, died, and the they keep the drowning audio lol

[spring laurel]

My guess is the voice transmission is losing packets, and the result is it repeating the last received bit of sound it got

How much it happens is mostly internet speed dependant, but the game loading can also cause it

Could try DissonanceLagFix or DissonanceVoiceSettings and its config options to see if anything helps

[solemn ridge]

Mirage already includes DissonanceLagFix so VoiceSettings will probably help

[reef meteor]

Hello, recently i've been playing with some friends using Mirage, and whenever we get close to the ship we get this error on the console infinitely, making the game super laggy after a bit

the error only triggers whenever there's someone in the ship, getting out of the ship makes the error stop

[reef meteor]

the error only happens with morecompany installed

[flint heron]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AudioKnight/StarlancerAIFix/ has a fix for that i believe

[reef meteor]

That fixed the issue, thank you!

[onyx summit]

What is Mirage experimental? Is that like a beta test for new features?

[gaunt grotto]

I believe part of it at least is fixing voices being so loud

[minor apex]

could you give the option to turn off the compatibility level pls. i would like to give players with lobby compatibility the ability to join without mirage if they dont want too

if friends use compatibility checker as a dependency but don't wanna hear voices lobby compatibility checker wont let them in im trying to have a pack that anybody can join

[deft cape]

lobby compatibility is already a soft dependency, just leave it uninstalled

although just saying, using mirage for only some members while others don't have it installed doesn't make too much sense

people without it installed won't ever have their voices played for anyone else

in that case you're better off installing skinwalkers, it's better for such scenarios like yours, and public parties

[minor apex]

i like testing my modpack with random players to speed up testing to make a stable fun host pack with optional mods but some get locked out and thats that

[deft cape]

yeah pretty much what nutdaddy (ayo? 🤨) said, although Lunxara and JacuJ tested it for me and said it works, so i'll be pushing that to the actual package later tonight

[deft cape]

well the only solution in that case is to just dont use lobby compatibility, since the point of having it installed is to check for missing dependencies

[minor apex]

ok

yea i have 130+ mods going and mirage was the only thing locking the join button for players

[deft cape]

yeah cuz on lobby compatibility mirage is marked as being required by all (since if not everyone has it, it just doesn't work as expected)

without lobby compatibility installed ppl will be able to join the lobby

and ofc functionality won't be there but im assuming ur fine with that

[minor apex]

yea

just cuts random joins in half on me sry for bothering u

[deft cape]

Mirage released v1.8.2:

• Fixed a volume bug when playing with MoreCompany.

Thanks to 1a3 for the fix, as well as Lunxara and JacuJ for testing it!

[deft cape]

sorry i missed this message before since i wasn't paying attention to this discord during that time.
both suggestions you mentioned are planned for v2 (although i could potentially forget lmao)

also for anyone wondering, if i have time tomorrow i'll be adding the enemies from the new update (if there's any)

[granite musk]

theres one after v60

[weary quiver]

Hi, not sure if this is a mirage issue but I got the zombie apocalypse from MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork going and im having 2 issues with how the masked are behaving. Im using MoreEnemies to crank up the spawnrate and one probem is that a lot of them seem to gather at the main entrance and constantly go in and out instead of exploring (see pic). The other issues is that when killing masked their corpses seem to still block shotgun shells like an invisible wall. This is a proplem for when their in a large group like in the pic. You have to lead them a considerable distance away from the corpse to deal damage again.
Just wondering if anyone else dealt with a problem like this or if anyone knows a mod that could at least fix the pathfinding.

[solemn ridge]

Zombie Apocalypse mode is known to have issues so it's probably just the fact you're using that causing it

You should probably not blame other mods when you're using a buggy setting

[weary quiver]

Not blaming, just trying to find a solution

[solemn ridge]

Turning off Zombie Apocalypse is the easiest solution, if you want a certain amount of masked enemies to spawn Mirage can handle that there's not much reason to pair the 2 mods together

With the spawn curve setting in Mirage you'll generally have masked enemies all spawn together

[weary quiver]

Alright, ill give it a try. Thanks

[weary quiver]

Problem still seems to persist even if i have zombie mode off

[granite musk]

well when u have zombie mode off u technically doesnt need maskedoverhaul at all 😂

[timber notch]

I’m pretty sure the only thing missing is the fading masks option

[ionic shoal]

I've seen masked tped to ship bug out and the body freeze on the teleporter dead.

I figured this was a bug between vanilla and "take that mask off", didn't bother reporting it cause frankly the masked was dead.

[ionic shoal]

Vanilla masked have a habit of gathering at the same place, sometimes a corner sometimes the main entrance.

I don't have a "vanilla perspnality" in my mod, but with the way things are working atm if you wanted vanilla like behaviour, you could install my mod (Lethal intelligence) and disable all personalities except "aggressive", that's the closest to vanilla that's not vanilla AFAIK..

The only reason I'm suggesting this is, unless my mod is somehow broken by other mods, the masked won't congregate anywhere, won't do all the same thing, etc.

I used to use maskedairevamp (which Lethal intelligence is a progression from) and mirage, we used to have 10 masked at the ship (I think before mirage had a mask limiting setting)

We never used apocalypse mode or any other spawn increase mods, we just used default settings in mirage at the time, the only difference from now and then is now I believe mirage limits to 2 masked. (Which can be changed im sure)

[weary quiver]

Seems to fix the issue, but they dont seem to attack me. Like their too focused on their paths. They just run by and stare lol. Very cool mod tho, ill be sure to keep my eye on it.

Also for context im trying to get a zombie like game going. Only masked enemies, nothing else. So i do still need to use masked enemy overhaul otherwise other things will spawn.

[young kestrel]

how does mirage send audio from other clients? I looked in my Mirage folder and I can only hear myself

[light jacinth]

u locally store ur own recordings.. no one else’s

basically u stream ur own recordings to others via the host when needed

so it’s correct that you only hear yourself

[young kestrel]

So if I was to manually delete all the recordings in that folder, it wouldn't cause an issue?

Or at least delete the ones with keyboards, lip smacking etc

[modern trail]

yall gotta fix this 😭 why they doing eachother

[onyx summit]

Bruh what did you do to your Mirage mimics!? Why are they so SMART! One Mimic chased a player up a ladder and said "I'm going up". I had another look like it was helping me grab loot and say to me "I'll take this back" someone hit my Mimic with a shovel and he responded with "oh Shovel" one killed someone and then said "I'm sorry"

They have even been saying people's names to the correct person and baiting them.

Shall we send you all of our therapy bills? 😆

[tepid condor]

Yea I agree they are somehow very good at randomly picking quotes to use

[minor apex]

they arent smart u guys are just rly lucky

they never take context so they are random and thats just a good dice roll

[ionic shoal]

i modified their vision, it maybe that it still needs tweaking, but depending on personality, they also have a set time before they notice you, something that I will change in the future to be a different method of determining if they "aggro" towards you, but SOME personalities are not meant to pay attention to you, they are meant to pretend like its normal seeing you, rather than beelining to maul your face, thats why i suggested aggressive, as they should just be like "player RAWR player" xD

[ionic shoal]

the cache of clips are auto deleted, or at least there is a setting to delete clips automatically (start of a new game, start of a new day, and possibly even "once used", i forget the setting.)

[young kestrel]

I've turned on ignore deletion

But I was wondering that if I was to manually delete clips, would that cause any issues?

[minor apex]

the only thing i can rly do is replace it with a modified ver that don't ask for anything to join with

then i can have people join without issue as an option

so basically we gotta remake the mod to not restrict joining over lobby compatibility so players dont get grey join button@deft cape

yea?

basically all we can do is remake the mod to not do that compatibility check thing right?

[minor apex]

not selling or sending a modified version just my friends learning from it and remaking it to learn some stuff

[deft cape]

uh i mean

lobby compatibility is optional for mirage

at least for now

so without it there's no enforcing all clients to have it installed

so im not really sure what the problem is

[deft cape]

that's fine

[deft cape]

AYO 🤨

LMAOO

[minor apex]

i was told that you put the compatibility level in the mod urself and we would need to disable it to let players join us with compatibility checker

letting random players join in it would help speed up testing by allot

more testers tells you whats wrong fast

just want an option to use it in a pack that wont lock anybody out for unknown reason

[deft cape]

yes but why not just not install lobby compat

it's a soft dependency for a reason

i dont want to have to maintain two version of the mod

u wont get locked out if u dont install lobby compat

[wispy parcel]

I have the spawn on death set to 0, but it still spawns on death 100% of the time.

Also, I have natural spawn rate set to 10%, but every moon one would spawn around 3pm.

Anyone ran into this before?

Tried doing a bit of searching but it's a bit weird when there's sub threads.

This is whilst duoing with a friend with the same mods and configs.

[wispy parcel]

I recently had one shout "Hahaha, YOU'RE BLACK!" before killing me 😂 straight up racial profiling 😂

That's why I really wanna sort out the spawning on death, because the comedic timing is brilliant, but I just want it to be a single entity like the braken.

[onyx summit]

Had a situation yesterday where two people went to try and dispatch the mimics at main and upon arrival the Mimic of one's boyfriend looks to them and says "I found them!" Then one of the mimics jump her. She was traumatized 😆

[deft cape]

are you sure it's from spawn on death? i've had other people think it was that, but when i look at their clips, it's 100% not

since spawn on death spawns it instantly right where the masked enemy died

natural spawn at 10% is really high and basically guarantees a spawn

it's not a spawn chance for the round, it's the spawn chance every time the game attempts to spawn a monster (at least from what i remember)

[wispy parcel]

When the masked mimic killed me, I still instantly turned into a masked mimic even though I have SoD at 0% and max masked mimics at 1.

Oh damn, why is it defaulted to 15% if 10 is high?? Yeah, I was thinking it was maybe a per spawn chance rather than per moon chance.

[deft cape]

i had it set to spawn every round basically

which reminds me

i wanted to turn the default down

probably gonna have it at 4% on the next update

[deft cape]

not sure why that'd happen though, unless something broke in the latest update

i feel like more likely you're just having natural spawns

max # of masked enemies gets overwritten by a lot of mods

idk which mods but ive noticed a lot of ppl still have more than the cap

never had that issue personally but i dont use that many mods so

[minor apex]

i dont wanna add that mod as it reduces my random player joins by alot

[deft cape]

i thought you have it

if you don't have it then it's not supposed to lock

[minor apex]

dont need it

[deft cape]

mirage doesn't have any blocking mechanisms

[minor apex]

it dose still on other clienst with compatibility checkser

[deft cape]

even if i removed the lobby compatiblity attribute nothing is gonna change

yeah then tell them to uninstall it

cuz that's lobby compatibility working as intended

[minor apex]

"random joins"

[deft cape]

well then ur out of luck

cuz that's an intended feature

[minor apex]

hard to tell people to turn it off when they have no idea the lobby compatibility dose this

[deft cape]

i still recommend just using skinwalkers

it works better when not everyone has the mod installed

[minor apex]

basicaly this mod is only for friends there is barely any shot at meeting anybody new with it

[deft cape]

i mean public lobbies is fine as long as they read why they can't join the lobby

aka if a mod isn't installed, they install it

[minor apex]

they can join me just fine without compatibility checker adding it creates a lock

[deft cape]

mirage doesn't work great if not everyone installs the mod, which is why lobby compatibility is there for ensuring everyone has it

look im not going to change the lobby compatibility flag

it's working as intended

[minor apex]

i only want it to spice up the game if a friend joins my lobby of random players

i can have 20 people in but one gets extra fun

[deft cape]

the problem is if i changed the flag just for you, then people who actually are using lobby compatibility as how it's intended wouldn't know they're missing mirage

so i'm gonna leave it as is

and i don't wanna maintain two versions of the mod

[minor apex]

ohh

[deft cape]

not to mention thunderstore releases doesn't support anything like that anyways

like the people who are joining and can't join because they're missing mirage

that's the point of lobby compatibility

[minor apex]

why dose it use lobby compatability anyways?

[deft cape]

you're supposed to see what mods are missing

and install them

it doesn't

it's a soft dependency

meaning it adds support for it

but if you don't use it that's fine as well

different story for v2 bcuz i need some of the features later on

but as of right now it's a soft dependency

[minor apex]

but i dont even have it it just says no to people withg the push mod

[deft cape]

well u said the random ppl joining have it

so that's a them problem

[minor apex]

any mod that has it as a dependancey the users are getting locked out of my lobby over mirage i have 130+ mods that wont do this crap also i can host in vanilla

ill see what we can do

basically this mod wont let me test things properly with my host pack unless i modify it

most my mods are making fun for players in just more company

optional mods that could sync would be nice

[deft cape]

mod working as intended

[minor apex]

lobby compatibility = verry slow to get random players

[deft cape]

they should be installing mirage if lobby compatibility says it's needed

if anything this sounds like you should be asking the lobby compatibility devs to ignore the checks if a client wants to ignore it

[minor apex]

somebody in troubleshooting said you set the compatability level

[deft cape]

yes

working as intended

[minor apex]

do you care if we modify it a bit not gonna release it

we make lots of custom stuff so players can join with just more company but now we have to break compatibility crap

[deft cape]

as long as it's not hosted on a mod platform like thunderstore then no

[minor apex]

alrighty

is it fine if i pass you a version of the mod once the weed server messes with it?

[deft cape]

u dont need to

[minor apex]

oke

[deft cape]

as long as it's not on thunderstore or whatever

you can do whatever u want with the source code

[minor apex]

epic

[gaunt atlas]

maybe you could use a patch instead of just reuploading the mod

[deft cape]

dont think u can do that since it's an attribute or whatever that shit's called

[gaunt atlas]

aw

[minor apex]

only mod ever uploaded from weed server is fortnitemod its the only totally custom one

[gaunt atlas]

btw weed can you send me an invite to your server?

[minor apex]

ye

[gaunt atlas]

in dms

[deft cape]

if it's your own servers it's fine to host there

doesnt really matter to me

[minor apex]

thank you

[minor apex]

ill let you know if we make something cool with it

[oblique galleon]

@deft cape pls make driftwood yeet host only

[minor apex]

whats that

[oblique galleon]

Greatest mod on earth

[minor apex]

oooh

i wanna see

oh i dont play with modded mosters 😦

[oblique galleon]

missing out

[minor apex]

rarely play with mods like that as i like meeting random players

i dont add extra stuff we just mess with the stuff thats in the game already

[deft cape]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[wispy parcel]

I don't have any other mods that touch spawn rates nor the masked entities.
Most of the mods I'm using are either superficial, qol additions, or the standard recommended fixes & async. What's the cap?

So, if I have SoD on 0, the masked entities shouldn't be able to "infect" on kill like in vanilla, right?

[mild solstice]

heya, with the latest version of mirage (1.8.2) im getting
[Error : BepInEx] Error loading [qwbarch.Mirage 1.8.2] : Could not load file or assembly 'FSharp.Core, Version=8.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its dependencies.
in the logs and it wont load into the ship spamming the console with

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager.NetworkUpdate (Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateStage updateStage) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:0)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop.RunNetworkUpdateStage (Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateStage updateStage) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:0)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop+NetworkPreUpdate+<>c.<CreateLoopSystem>b__0_0 () (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:0)

any ideas?

loads up normally without errors when i remove it

[deft cape]

you're missing BarchLib

i recommend just using a mod manager to avoid missing dependencies like that

[mild solstice]

its in there

along with the other 2 dependencies

[deft cape]

i just mean im pretty sure you're misunderstanding the spawn on player death mechanic and it's most likely not the reason you're seeing masked enemies

most likely you're just seeing natural spawns and another mod overwrote the max number of masked enemies so you're seeing more natural spawns

[deft cape]

just use r2modman

it'll solve everything

[mild solstice]

i mean thats what i use

i see the issue though

it fucked up and only made the folder for barchlib, downloaded nothing inside of them

[gaunt grotto]

Give me a code and I'll take a look

[deft cape]

maybe your antivirus deleted them?

[mild solstice]

nah, checked

[gaunt grotto]

-1 computer to the botnet

[deft cape]

😂

[mild solstice]

ill just download it manually and put the core files there, thanks for the help!

yep, works like a charm now. time to get bamboozled.

[finite lichen]

I have been ambushed by a mimic, only for him to perform a fortnite dance
(TooManyEmotes compat. love it) while using my voice to say "I know it looks bad, but it's gonna be way worse." and proceed to step on a goddamn mine.

Love the randomness

[wispy parcel]

I'm guessing you've forgotten, but I've already described in detail that it was not a natural spawn, and I do not have any other mods that touch spawn rates or that entity.
The 2nd masked entity was spawned from my dead body instantly after being killed by the first naturally spawned entity, and no corpse remained.

As I mentioned in my previous message, can the masked entities "infect" after killing like in vanilla, even if the SoD is at 0?

[deft cape]

infecting behaviour is untouched

so it still works the exact same as vanilla

spawnonplayerdeath is a mechanic for other types of deaths

[gaunt grotto]

I'm trying to help, if you would post a code

[wispy parcel]

Sorry, I missed your message. Currently afk and busy, so I'll get it to you later.
Thank you.

[wispy parcel]

Ah so it's a spawn on "other" deaths, not on "all" deaths.
That'll be why I was misled, as I assumed on "death" by itself meant all death in general, including the infecting.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm guessing English is your second language? As I'd mentioned a few times it was due to the masked mimic killing me 😅

Is there a mod or option to turn off the infecting mechanic? I've searched but couldn't find anything.

Thanks again.

[gaunt atlas]

does this option work with clients who don't have the mod?

[deft cape]

the reason why i assumed you were misunderstood is quite literally because the mechanic doesn't work like that

yes the name could be renamed to something different

but that's why i was saying it's not because of spawnonplayerdeath

turning off the infecting mechanic is possible but you'd have to ask someone to make it if it doesn't already exist

[deft cape]

everyone's supposed to have the mod, so things aren't going to work as expected if not everyone has it

i don't remember the internals of this mod much since it's been so long since i've been working on it so i can't give a direct answer to that

[wispy parcel]

I understand that now, however, at the time you simply stated the fact without specifying why, which led to confusion and our back and forth on the matter, especially since the wording of the config option doesn't specify either.
It reminded me of talking with my wife 😭 😅 sorry.

At least I know what's happening now, thank you.

How long would it take to create or edit the string to turn off infecting?

[haughty sierra]

masked enemy appear very rarely, how to make them appear more often?

[wispy parcel]

Increase spawn % in the config file.

[thick plank]

I’ve had it at 2% playing regularly for several months and my group of 8 agrees it’s a sweet spot. On easy moons we see a Masked every few runs, on hard moons we see one or more around half the time.

That’s just for reference tho, I could see 4% being a good default since when people first install the mod you want to make sure they see Masked fairly often.

We like it lower because if you see them every round they’re less likely to trick you

[deft cape]

hm that does sound pretty nice, i'll consider setting 2% as the default

i originally wanted it to spawn every round but i see why thats a bad default for most ppl

[haughty sierra]

i set OverrideSpawnChance to 100 but they dont spawn

[wispy parcel]

Check if you've got mods that affect spawn rates.
Turn off the spawn curve if you want a flat spawn rate.
Check if max # natural spawns isn't set to 0.

[wispy parcel]

I set it to 4.2%.
In Japanese 4 = shi, and 2 = ni.
42 = shini = death, dying, dead, etc.
😅

[finite lichen]

Got flashbacks of a certain character hurling a barrage of knives upon reading the word.

[haughty sierra]

i delete all mods and i have only mirage, but it still not work

[wispy parcel]

Bit of a silly one, but you've got bepinex installed, yeah ?

And you're clicking on "start modded"?

[haughty sierra]

yea, but i dont use r2modman

[wispy parcel]

I'd recommend you do. Zero issues with the platform so far.

[haughty sierra]

thanks

[tepid lava]

(or #1246088342458863618 )

[haughty sierra]

I tried using r2modman but still they don't spawn

[wispy parcel]

Bit weird, works for me, as long as you have bepinex.
Maybe post your config settings related to the masked entity for the mod dev to help you out when they're on.

[haughty sierra]

i test it with friends and it work nicely, thank you

[amber grove]

how's the progress on the AI stuff?

[ionic shoal]

When masked kill you, you have 100% chance to turn into a masked.

It's When other enemies kill you the setting goes into effect I thought.

[wispy parcel]

We've concluded this already. Check the recent messages.
Wording was misleading.

[ionic shoal]

Yeah sorry didnt realise when I replied,

[wispy parcel]

Thanks though. You would've saved me a lot of confusion if you'd messaged earlier 😅