Mirage

[deft cape]

would be fun to go to something that chaotic

but at least come out of it with something

not just pennies

[dark brook]

you can come out of there with 3 bodies if you're lucky

but honestly the terrain and outside power makes it nigh unplayable

it would require a complete makeover

but honestly looking at the map itself I don't think it's really worth it...

although the ||taking our the apparatus wakes up every old bird|| gimmick is an underutilized concept

[viral obsidian]

I've only been embrion once and it was eclipsed

didn't even get to step out of the ship 😭

[clever knot]

Embrion is so easy with a jetpack tho

[sturdy python]

do it matter tho the scrap is so bad there 😭

[lofty sorrel]

@deft cape My mute myself settings don't seem to be working.. Lunxara has self volume on 0 and I always make sure to set it to 1 for myself, but I have never heard myself ingame

[deft cape]

hmm ill go investigate it tonight

@lofty sorrel wait does lunxarax's pack have that config option that mutes the local player voic for all players enabled

cuz theres one option thats synced

[deft cape]

oof....

just to confirm, others can hear enemies mimicking you right

idk what couldve broke this

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah they can, just me that can't

[deft cape]

hmmm

[soft hollow]

hey uh

ghost girl

is using my voice audio

while i have her mimicking off

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape

[deft cape]

the fuck i guess i broke something 😔

[solemn ridge]

I remember someone else mentioning they had this with bees once too

But it was a while ago

It was when I reported the Locker and Knight talking for me despite having modded enemies disabled

I think sometimes it's skipping the config value

that's all I can guess

[deft cape]

idk why bees would have that happen since it's unrelated to what i mentioned about custom enemies extending enemies

for dress girl it's likely i just messed up somewhere during the latest update is all

cuz dress girl specifically has different logic

since only the haunted player hears voices

[soft hollow]

barch its broke

[solemn ridge]

Btw I got a question

[soft hollow]

12

[solemn ridge]

has ShyHud ever caused your exp bar to bug out? I had my Exp bar bugging out on stream earlier

and I think it was NilsHud

[soft hollow]

like

where / how

[solemn ridge]

One sec

Lemme find it

[solemn ridge]

Basically the xp gets static and fails to increase or reduce and the sound keeps playing

When we removed NilsHud and ShyHud it stopped doing it

ShyHud doesn't touch the exp bar so doubtful it's that

But idk

[soft hollow]

yea no i dont get that

[solemn ridge]

Yeah was prob NilsHud

lol

Which is a shame cus it looked cool tbh

[soft hollow]

im using both tho

[solemn ridge]

How much exp do you have though?

[soft hollow]

under max thats for sure

but

I am using betterexp

[solemn ridge]

For me it was bugging out at around 7600 exp

XD

[soft hollow]

do you have boss?

[solemn ridge]

Ye

[soft hollow]

i believe exp really just bugs out after boss

[solemn ridge]

Yeah Matty was confused why it was being buggy

Btw why does that little red icon show up with ShyHud?

That little red icon

it animates too

Oh wait it probs was NilsHud, cus it's had a similar bug before

LOL

[soft hollow]

im chillin

[solemn ridge]

For me it was kind of random when it showed up

XD

[soft hollow]

weird

[solemn ridge]

Ikr

[autumn glen]

getting this a loooot rn

im the only one dead and my body's not like, zombified

so idk why it's trying to do that

it's been spamming it since i posted it here it will not stop

[deft cape]

shouldnt be from mirage

cuz i dont use roundmanager

@autumn glen

[autumn glen]

huh

no idea what could be trying to play clips then

018ef474-9425-0c89-37a2-0c3d711ba3b6

this is my modpack

[deft cape]

idk what even references RoundManager.PlayRandomClip tbh

@upbeat compass is there any chance this might come from soundapi? since it does "override" every sound, might as well ask

[upbeat compass]

no probably not

seems to be complaining about some function on round manager

which i dont touch at all

[deft cape]

ah

@autumn glen all i can say is it looks like a mod that isn't updated for v50, since there's a MissingMethodException

[autumn glen]

yeah liminal pools isn't updated yet

but some friends wanted to try it so i used that one dodgy LLLfix

it hasn't spammed it since that time though so i think it's good

just thought it was a mirage thing since it said "playrandomclip"

[deft cape]

oh yeah that's a fair guess

i just knew immediately it wasn't mirage cuz of the roundmanager reference 😂

[slim basin]

not sure if its your mod, but when masked is mimicing bee suit it doesnt have the antennas

[dark brook]

chop chop barch, zeekeers made a new feature

[autumn glen]

huh wuh what happened

update?

guh??

[dark brook]

oh no I was just referencing the be suit

e

lost an e there

https://tenor.com/view/bee-movie-gif-21791471

[autumn glen]

ok thank god i can go back to sleep

[deft cape]

mirage doesnt have any logic for copying the suit other than setting the suit id, so it's likely that issue is just the base game

assuming the bee suit is vanilla

[dark brook]

its a v50 addition yes

[deft cape]

very likely something that zeekers needs to fix himself

[eternal bridge]

yeah masked don't have the bee stinger or antenneas, and they also don't have the bunny ears or tail

[lofty sorrel]

Vanilla issue

[deft cape]

@lofty sorrel idk if i mentioned it but for the local player volume thing, ill just add a menu slider (vis lethal whatever it's called) during v2

as for the issue where u cant hear urself, i still need to look into it tonight

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah Lunxara set the volume default to 1 and now I can hear myself fine

[deft cape]

maybe i did sync it by accident 🤨

[upbeat compass]

thats why i split the config so i dont accidently mix them ever

[deft cape]

ya i need to organize it better for v2 lmao

[dense nimbus]

completely unrelated to mod but the bee suit has a stinger?

[eternal bridge]

yes

[clever knot]

where?

Bunny doesn't have a tail either

[eternal bridge]

weird

i remember them having them

[blazing jungle]

I know this is somewhat old but I wanna double down on this, I know realistic proximity chat is hard to do but I would love if a mod could somehow fix this problem. I wanna struggle to hear my friends through a wall or floor until they reach an open doorway, but again I know that might be very difficult

[deft cape]

that's something for zeekers to change tbh

in order for it to be 1:1 i'm just using the exact same thing zeekers uses for the audio filters

like i legit just cloned it so i dont have to do anything manual for it to be 1:1

[viral obsidian]

Think they acknowledged it's a vanilla issue, though I don't think it'd be appropriate for this mod to fix that. A separate mod would be more suitable for this

[clever knot]

Why would Zeekers need to fix it himself if Maskeds are not supposed that have any other suits than the default one?

[deft cape]

@clever knot i was referring to this message about proximity chat

cuz in order for it to be 1:1 i just cloned the exact thing zeekers uses

[clever knot]

I was not replying to that message

[deft cape]

oh wait

[viral obsidian]

I think you said that in reference to the bee suit too lol

[deft cape]

im dumb lmfao

🤣

well i was assuming

that suit is a vanilla suit

and the vanilla game does support suits actually, when they kill another player

mirage doesn't do anything special to support suits, it's built into the game

[viral obsidian]

time to test it in vanilla 🙃

[clever knot]

Yeah but wouldn't that be up to you to add support for these suits' props for maskeds?

Since zeekers would never do that

[deft cape]

no cuz the base game already does that

when a masked enemy kills another player they copy the suit

if those suit props dont exist in the vanilla game then it probably comes from another mod

which means that cosmetic mod would have to fix it

[clever knot]

they do exists

The bee suits have antennas

that's vanilla

[deft cape]

then that's a zeekers issue to fix

cuz masked enemies already do copy suits in vanilla

[clever knot]

Oh I get it now

[deft cape]

yeah mirage doesn't do anything special for copying suits, that's all vanilla

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge @lofty sorrel yeah uh... i accidentally synced LocalPlayerVolume 💀

[deft cape]

Mirage v1.5.0 is released:

• Fixed LocalPlayerVolume being accidentally synced. Each player can now control the volume of their mimicked voices, as originally intended.
• Fixed a bug that caused the ghost girl to mimic voices even with EnableGhostGirl set to false.
• Fixed a bug that caused the ghost girl to mimic voices at the wrong timings.
• Recordings now also delete on game startup (previously only deleted when closing the game), while IgnoreRecordingsDeletion is set to false.
• Changed the way masked enemies disable the arms-out animation to hopefully get rid of the rare issue of it having its arms-out when it's not supposed to.

[thick sedge]

just updated to 1.5.0 and everyone but the host is hearing the loot notification (the popup when you drop loot on the ship) on rapid fire.

[deft cape]

did you update any other mods? i don't see how mirage would affect that

[thick sedge]

sounds like the players are leaning toward desync / just random chance, just a coindidence - if we get it again we'll downgrade and see if that makes a difference

[deft cape]

i highly doubt it's mirage tbh, it doesn't touch loot notification sfx at all

and nothing in v1.5.0 has any major changes, they're just small bug fixes

[thick sedge]

We're guessing it's just a weird interaction - we use CollectYourDead which automatically loots the body when it gets TP'd, and Mirage turned the person being TP'd into a masked right when they hit the button - which then appears to have caused the loot sfx to loop. I don't even want to try and reproduce that for such a niche issue 😓

Just speculation though. Sorry for bothering.

[deft cape]

all good, let me know if it ever happens again

[white ocean]

Can this mod be used as an alternative to skinwalkers/masked enemies overhaul ?

[lofty sorrel]

Yea

[white ocean]

Goated modders

[blazing pilot]

👏🏻 but yeah audio engines are no joke. Zeekers would have to really care about this even more likely hire someone to implement an expert solution that functions with his custom interior generation, and make it very efficient.

[eternal bridge]

there are plans for masked to hold items of the player they possesed; can they pick up items without possesing? and can these items be used

[stone bison]

hey i

hey i'm currently playing on v49 because i have tons of mods. Was wondering if i update mirage to the latest version, will it work or break it? if so, should i stay on 1.3.2?

[stone bison]

nvm it breaks the mask mob

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah backwards compatibility from v50 to v49 is virtually impossible for enemy based mods

[stone bison]

aah good to know! then i know what to update and not to update. Got confused when i could update just some to the latest version

[deft cape]

i thought it's compatible with v49 since i dont do any references to the v50 monster classes, but i guess i thought wrong lmao

[deft cape]

i had plans for making masked enemies to hold items (from the player it spawns from), but probably wont be doing it anytime soon since im focusing on v2 instead

[stone bison]

what is v2? heard it was kinda like MaskedAiRevamp?

[lofty sorrel]

Not really no

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[stone bison]

tell me about it you fiends

[eternal bridge]

its a secret

should we bury him here?

[stone bison]

nooo, i wanna be in the secret boiiclub too :(((((((((

[eternal bridge]

ok fine

stand still for about 5 seconds

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-tragedy-mask-gif-4457765997708716369

[stone bison]

huh?

aaah

i just got the joke

[eternal bridge]

ok you are now one of the Kool Kids ™️

[stone bison]

yaaay

forever and eeever

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sr-pelo-gif-26313128

wait no

it doesn't have the flashbang flick

[stone bison]

me+u<3

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/coryxkenshin-looking-slowley-fnaf-gif-4020479549081122621

[stone bison]

ya like?=

[eternal bridge]

no

[stone bison]

😦

well then, this is awkward

[stone bison]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-me-carson-kressley-rupauls-drag-race-all-stars-its-me-youre-pertaining-to-me-gif-9367812036254282434

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/slungus-item-asylum-roblox-bunny-rabbit-gif-16001533015564169407

[deft cape]

#1200695291972685926 message

AI changes will have to come in a "v3" or something since the current features already takes too much time

[eternal bridge]

cah you give jus some

insight as to hos development is going

[stone bison]

god damn you are ambitious! Props to you man

[deft cape]

quite honestly havent worked on it for the past 2 weeks, just didnt feel like mentioning it earlier (wanted to finish some stuff for my content warning port of mirage)

im beginning a rewrite of the lc version of the mod today, and once i get some better groundwork built up, oeis and i will be hooking up our code together (he's more or less done the logic for the machine learning stuff)

[deft cape]

thanks to oeis as well, v2 isnt possible without him 😄

[eternal bridge]

can i beta test

[deft cape]

when there's a working version we'll see

[eternal bridge]

bet

[carmine lichen]

tbh, i would want to see features from v3 sooner, at the cost of getting v2 later...

but you do you

[deft cape]

im not working on v3 rn period

thats not what i want to work on

[carmine lichen]

i know... can't wait for it tho

[eternal bridge]

what are your plans for the next update , if any?

[deft cape]

u mean a non major update?

[eternal bridge]

kinda

new features in general

not very minor but not too major

[deft cape]

i only have a small update in mind for today, which gets rid of the audio spatializer log spam

other than that

it's listed in the pin

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-derp-propeller-hat-gif-11563543

[deft cape]

so nothing minor other than the log spam removal planned

cuz im just gonna focus on the big stuff

[eternal bridge]

the first time i used this mod it creeped my and my friends the FUCK OUT

like i heard myself and my friends thought it was me

[deft cape]

LOL

yeah the goal with v2 would be to make those interactions less random

[eternal bridge]

yeah i imagine like it's the "you gotta shoot the fake one" scenario

and the mimic is convincing someone that it's real

[stone bison]

send it a captcha message

jk. but that sounds alittle too futuristic hhahah

[toxic wharf]

@deft cape hello, i'm seeking informations, can your mod make masked spawn on other moons (ex : experimentation) ?

[deft cape]

by default it spawns on all moons yes, you can disable custom spawning if you want the vanilla spawns instead

[toxic wharf]

is it this config ?

[deft cape]

yep

[toxic wharf]

ok nice

[deft cape]

also probably want to set SpawnOnPlayerDeath to 0

[toxic wharf]

i'll see with the boys, thanks !

[atomic flicker]

any idea of why when I add mirage, all the custom moons are erased from the terminal? 😅😭

018efd52-7044-fe6a-2400-be726b456f29

[eternal bridge]

prolly like 10-25*

:)

one of my goons died to a landmine and i was none the wiser

[deft cape]

highly unlikely that comes from mirage

i'll check your pack rq just in case

[deft cape]

only mentioned setting it to 0 since they probably wanted vanilla spawns

[deft cape]

yeah this is not from mirage

also noticed you're using LLL, which doesn't work in v50

that's most likely your issue

batby is working on an update

Mirage v1.5.1 is released:

• Audio spatializer warning logs are now hidden.
  • This is a vanilla bug that occured more often with Mirage, due to cloning audio sources used by the vanilla game.
  • This log does not provide any value when debugging issues, so I opted to hide them instead.
  • Thanks to IAmBatby and mattymatty for their help/implementation.

[eternal bridge]

is something like masked ragdolling or dropping actual bodies considered?

[deft cape]

nope i personally dont see the point

[eternal bridge]

aarrgrghasdhfhasd

[atomic flicker]

its the only mod so far that breaks my entire game lol

[deft cape]

it's literally not mirage

try removing mirage and you'll see

i confirmed that for myself with your code

and also you have LLL installed, that just won't work in v50

(i'm assuming you're on v50 because of your profile name on r2)

[eternal bridge]

i dont think he likes mirage

[deft cape]

nah they just misunderstand that LLL is the issue on v50

probably just updated the game im assuming

[dark brook]

mirage took my kids and dog away

[deft cape]

irl feature creep

[torpid arch]

weathertweaks fault

[deft cape]

weathertweaks + mirage bugging out as usual

[torpid arch]

weathertweaks, mirage and lethalthings soundapi

[deft cape]

quote: #1208370988715221052 message

[torpid arch]

HOW COULD I FORGET 😆

[deft cape]

we will never break out of this 😢

[upbeat compass]

it was one time okay

[deft cape]

i just realized i didn't commit any of the stuff i previously started when i begun my rewrite

kinda sad that i gotta redo those parts gg

[atomic flicker]

i spent all day troubleshooting, I know what breaks when I add or subtract it lol

[solemn ridge]

Btw Have you considered adding an Extensive Logging bool toggle? So all the debug messages from SoundAPI can be enabled or disabled? XD

[upbeat compass]

im eventually going to have it go into a different file

[solemn ridge]

;o

[deft cape]

you're on v50 though right? cuz LLL is known to be broken, you could ask anyone else and they can confirm

[atomic flicker]

ive taken it in and out as needed for other things 🤔

[deft cape]

i dont understand how LLL even works for you when it's confirmed broken on v50 😭

[atomic flicker]

018efd81-582f-90e6-ee44-790d7bd511e2

this list everything works until i add mirage - we used it a lot in 49 lmao

I love mirage, I want it to work without sacrificing everything else

[deft cape]

wait so ur on v49 not v50?

[atomic flicker]

i said we used it a lot on 49 lol

i can't use it now on 50llo

[deft cape]

yea and what i was saying is that LLL doesnt work in v50

regardless of whether or not mirage is installed

[atomic flicker]

the fix for v50 works 🤔

but still some mods want the base one and dont work without it even with the v50 one

[deft cape]

which fix? i only saw the original LLL in the profile hence why i saif that was the culprit

[clever knot]

You have both enabled, try disabling the base one

[atomic flicker]

when I do that a bunch of other things dont want to work 😢

[deft cape]

i mustve missed it cuz i didnt see that installed when i tested the profile

thats my bad

[atomic flicker]

and its weird as soon as I add mirage, even if I disable it the entire set is broken lol

[deft cape]

i thought u were on LLL the whole time

[clever knot]

LLLFixed should make everything that depends on LLL work

[atomic flicker]

I have both lol

[clever knot]

Disable the base one

and you also have this

which is not compatible with v50

[deft cape]

ill take a look again in 10 mins since im not on my pc rn

[clever knot]

and this

[deft cape]

thanks marino 🙏

[atomic flicker]

but those are needed for other things to work 😢

[clever knot]

Yeah but they don't work in v50

[atomic flicker]

but they do 😅 Im using them actively lol

with this set

just no mirage

[clever knot]

that should not be possible, both LE and LECore are not compatible with v50

[spring laurel]

most things that "need" lethal expansion use the same features that core has

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape Why did it do this to my voice? XD https://clips.twitch.tv/SucculentGrossPeppermintRlyTho-QSv6uV_mKJJqFdLg

The high pitch

LOL

[atomic flicker]

i'm creating a new copy of the profile 🤔 and you say to take out the things that require LLL and LE/LEC and then mirage wont prevent me from going to a level lol

or seeing a custom moon

[clever knot]

You can keep things that requires LLL

just disable base LLL

and keep LLLFixedV50 enabled

[atomic flicker]

i disable the things and add mirage - send good cojnnectivity lol

[deft cape]

pretty sure u need the preview version of lethal expansion if you want it to work

cuz your profile has LE/LEC and im pretty sure those are v49 only

[deft cape]

lmao i have no clue how that happened 😭

[solemn ridge]

Haha Skinwalkers also sometimes does it where it makes voices slightly higher or lower pitched

It's kind of funny tbh

XD

[deft cape]

oh if skinwalkers does it as well it's probably just cuz of dissonance

since both mods records audio taken from it

[solemn ridge]

Prob

LMFAO

[deft cape]

someone fed your mimic some helium 😭

[solemn ridge]

LOL

Ikr

[atomic flicker]

lol son of a bitch i think it worked

[deft cape]

the preview version of LE?

[atomic flicker]

well legally i didnt hear anything, but everything ran

[deft cape]

legally 😭

[atomic flicker]

I turned off LLL and LEC and unisntalled the other lethal core thing

[deft cape]

whats the other LEC? or are you talking about the preview version

cuz im not aware of there being an LEC "fixed"

[clever knot]

He probably mean LE and LEC

[deft cape]

ah

[atomic flicker]

oh eah that

[solemn ridge]

Btw XD

https://clips.twitch.tv/WittyResilientClamFUNgineer-Q20eBqSB7laxve7E

[atomic flicker]

i can see in the command lines when amonster spawns its "mocking player 0" so I feel like its working even if I dont hear it

[solemn ridge]

They're learning to use my voice lines way too appropriately

LOL

[deft cape]

not being able to hear it doesn't sound right

[solemn ridge]

The "Fuck you hahaha" after I start laughing at it

LOL

[deft cape]

can you double check your lethal company folder? there should be a folder called Mirage in there

and see if you have any audio clips

[atomic flicker]

would be uninstalling it destroy the 30000 files i had in there before lol

[deft cape]

LOOL

the timing

[solemn ridge]

XD ikr

[deft cape]

nope

did you have IgnoreRecordingsDeletion set to true? cuz it should've been deleting it by default

[atomic flicker]

then there should be plenty of clips of my gay ass voice

and no, I had it turned off lol

[deft cape]

it should delete it by default then

cuz it deletes whenever you close the game (and another mod doesnt cause the game to crash)

[atomic flicker]

i have whatveer the auto delete is turned off lol

[deft cape]

ah

ok thats weird then cuz u should be able to hear your voice then

can u send me your new profile code

[atomic flicker]

018eff04-32d2-7e7f-9e14-f49e7e6e8faf

[fathom dust]

Is there a thread or contact for the dev of MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork? It is currently decimating my logs folder

[deft cape]

#1231104141594595368

[fathom dust]

Cool, thank you

[deft cape]

@atomic flicker can confirm im able to hear my voice with your profile code, no clue why it's not working for you 😭

[atomic flicker]

I think its probably fine, I think it may have cleared out the files

[deft cape]

ah

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SpineyFuriousAxeWholeWheat-ch0IFpKLGZgNNaVF @deft cape

It's funny cus it was talking to itself, it saw me then instantly

"Yes I'm real"

XD

[deft cape]

oof dont have headphones on me rn, ill watch later tonight

[deft cape]

"we can do it"

ur mimic was prepared to box u

[solemn ridge]

XD

[broken mango]

I keep seeing this mod-

What is the battery power mod?

[eternal bridge]

wait, can dogs hear mimics?

[errant sundial]

pretty sure i’ve seen dogs eat mimics

[lofty sorrel]

Dogs won't aim to kill Masked, but if they attack something else and accidentally hit a Masked, it will hurt the Masked

I'm pretty sure mimicked voices don't trigger dogs tho

[eternal bridge]

they should

[solemn ridge]

Battery power mod?

[broken mango]

Yeah on the UI-

[solemn ridge]

?

... It's vanilla? Unless you mean the hotbar in which case it's part of hotbarplus

[broken mango]

OH okay

[dark brook]

@deft cape

what did you do

clients are saying that it looked fine but what the hell hahahaha

[solemn ridge]

🤔 I don't think this is a Mirage bug

XD

[twin abyss]

multiple emote mods? corporate restructure? somethin' is goin' wonky but I do not think Mirage causes this one bit

[dark brook]

i just remember barch saying something something hands out fix

and this happened

[twin abyss]

hands out fix is for the masked

[dark brook]

its a masked

[sturdy python]

That is SpectateEnemies lol

[solemn ridge]

Well I never had this happen yesterday when playing

[twin abyss]

Ok that is odd... I didn't even think that to be a masked cause it didn't go after anyone nor anyone is reactin' to it . ,.

[solemn ridge]

You got any other mods that touch masked enemies? The new hands out fix is the same as MEO's to resolve the rare issue where it didn't work

[twin abyss]

could only you see the masked there and nobody else saw it?

[dark brook]

no, the only mod that got updated is mirage

[dark brook]

everyone saw it with working anims

except me

[solemn ridge]

I'm gonna guess vanilla bug

Or a bug caused by a mod that touches the player animator

[twin abyss]

you're 100% certain it worked prior to this update of mirage, n then this update caused it? . ,.

[solemn ridge]

Kev

It's not a Mirage bug.

[twin abyss]

they're stating the only mod that got updated is mirage

[dark brook]

its the only thing that changed yup

[solemn ridge]

The hands out fix is literally the same as what MEOF uses

[dark brook]

first time seeing this

[solemn ridge]

It's not that

[solemn ridge]

Whoever it was mimicing

Likely died or something

[twin abyss]

well it was mimicking the person who was spectating it

[solemn ridge]

I've seen masked enemies do weird shit if the person they're mimicing dies

[dark brook]

it my masked

[solemn ridge]

It was probably spawned before you died then

and it bugged

[dark brook]

no

it spawned off me

[solemn ridge]

Oh

[dark brook]

yeah idk puzzling shit

esp that i could only see this anim on host

[solemn ridge]

I wonder if you were in a weird animation when you turned

XD

[twin abyss]

I think I've witnessed something like that before, but very rarely. ... but not to a masked - but other people. WIth hands stuck in a specific way like they're holding a jetpack..

honestly just shrug it off for now. If only dead people witness it weird, it's fine I guess o -o

but there are like- some config options at the bottom of Mirage 'n MEOF(MEOW)

that may warrant some attention if it's important

granted- never touched v50 with Mirage yet. This is all off v49 knowledge

also, how are you fairing with v50 'n your pack @solemn ridge ?... fine with just the base moons? . ,.

[solemn ridge]

I've been playing v50 with Mirage and haven't ran into anything like this

XD

[solemn ridge]

Artiface is chaos so it keeps me pretty happy tbh

[dark brook]

https://tenor.com/view/netflix-and-chill-cat-kitten-cute-relaxing-gif-16654308

[twin abyss]

artiface?

oh

[solemn ridge]

Stop running an outdated version of the game

c;

[twin abyss]

I AM NOT -w -

I just haven't touched it when v50 dropped - w-

i touched beta

[solemn ridge]

lol

[twin abyss]

but I haven't seen their names or typed em enough for muscle memory

I know Embrion and... ...

hecc

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

just embrion I guess

it's on the tip of my tongue

but yeh, the 3 new moons is enuf for now for ye? . ,.

[lofty prairie]

hello everyone, just a quick question since i didnt find anything here in the chats. What version of Mirage should I use if I want to play it on v49?

[eternal bridge]

liquidaton, artifice, adamance?

[deft cape]

in theory the latest version should be fine, but if you want to be safe, use v1.3.2

[deft cape]

yeah the only thing i changed was to make it identical to MEO to try to get rid of the rare occassion of the arms out animation still happening

so like lunxara mentioned it's unlikely it's from mirage

[eternal bridge]

you know, i kinda like that that's a possibility

little defects

like that

[deft cape]

dont think ill include something like that tbh

u could always see if coppertiel is willing to add that to MEOF

[eternal bridge]

ah yes

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PluckyCuteLyrebirdPicoMause-FBkTKqnnOgO-sFUs @deft cape lol

[deft cape]

lmfao had to do a double take to see if someone was next to you asking that as well

[solemn ridge]

Lmao nah I turned back around cus of it saying "Oh my god that was weird as fuck" XD

I didn't even remember saying that, it's funny when it takes 2 random lines and just pieces them together like that

XD

[deft cape]

Mirage v1.5.2 is released:

• Voice clips are no longer created when ToggleMute is toggled.

@solemn ridge

[torpid arch]

that was a thing? 😳

[deft cape]

yeah luni told me it was still recording her voice clips when togglemute was toggled

i never even thought about that interaction lmao

[lament mica]

needed this thanks

[deft cape]

i didnt even know that was a problem until lunxara pointed it out lmao

[deft cape]

who ghost pinged me 😔

[deft cape]

get the visions out of my head 😔

[deft cape]

omg i hate u, deleting ur message so i look insane now LOOOOL

[soft hollow]

...

[deft cape]

i swear im not crazy

[hollow violet]

mod inspired by actual events

[light jacinth]

damn how did no one notice for so long lol xD

[deft cape]

yea im surprised it wasnt reported earlier tbh, maybe there's not that many mirage + toggle mute users

[deft cape]

🤣

[trail cargo]

Honestly I imagine just nobody noticed it

toggle mute is super commonly used

[clever knot]

What's the point of a mute button besides for dogs?

[trail cargo]

It's useful for if you have a noisy keyboard or other background stuff going on

this game has no noise suppression

[clever knot]

Oh I use a mod that adds noise suppression for that

[trail cargo]

there's a mod for it but it doesn't work very well from my experience

other people can still clearly hear my keyboard

same for other players in my group

it works for fans and stuff like that tho

[clever knot]

There are multiple, I use DissonanceVoiceSettings and it works fine

definitely help to reduce the keyboard sounds

[trail cargo]

hm, I use the one just called Noise Suppression

[deft cape]

i just use push to talk personally so ive never noticed it

[fathom dust]

PTT supremacy

[soft hollow]

Ptt cowards

[ionic shoal]

i use it, never noticed tbh

now call me crazy qwbarch.. because this might be way too much to do to be possible for a mod in lethal company.. but..

what if, the audio clips could be split up into letters (or voice patterns, i d k, im no audio expert)... and then when a player speaks and the masked "hears" it.. the words are fed into ChatGPT... who then responds to your mod with a valid reply, which is then turned into the player its mimicking's voice for the person to hear.

i feel like.. this is either going to be way too hard.. OR its just impossible... but this idea came to me when i was updating my modpack for the masked (which includes your mod btw)

i also assume, thats no quick reply, and would probably take a few seconds, which is why it probably wouldent work up close..

but for those "hey, billy, you alive?" moments through a wall.. "yeah im alive, glad to hear you are too buddy" as a reply.. may come delayed but still sound valid to a panicking player, meanwhile billy is actually long dead..., but, uh yeah.. of course, the person hearing the reply, may realise its not their friend, because everyone speaks differently.. i just thought, it would be nice if the masked could say words we havent said before.. to make them more "real" in the sense of pretending to be you.

[torpid arch]

i also assume, thats no quick reply, and would probably take a few seconds, which is why it probably wouldent work up close..
yeah, parsing words from audio, feeding them to another AI, getting the response back and passing it through another AI to reply might take 10 seconds at least, this is (i assume) out of reach 😭

[ionic shoal]

rip, well.. at least it was a nice idea xD

i assume the parsing of the letters/sounds could be done per player in the background, just might be cpu/memory intensive, but would only require being disabled until it has all the sounds it needs.

but at least if that part was possible, then, a selection of phrases that havent been said but which are "plausible" in game, perhaps based off of situation (like, if billy died "dont worry, im alive" on billy's mimic) is possibly more possible?

i guess it all relies on how easily audio could be parsed like that.

[torpid arch]

it would be very GPU intensive

a selection of phrases that havent been said but which are "plausible" in game, perhaps based off of situation (like, if billy died "dont worry, im alive" on billy's mimic) is possibly more possible?

maybe? 🤷

probably not tho

because the generative AI needs a big batch of data to train on and it takes time&resources to do so

[ionic shoal]

when i said cpu,i meant "it will require a good pc to do that" xD didnt mean the cpu vs the gpu.

yeah, i figured, still, if an idea isnt told, it cant be shot down :3

[torpid arch]

exactly 😄

probably @deft cape will think of some way that some of that could be done 😛

[ionic shoal]

plug in brain to mod there we go.

[lofty sorrel]

Getting AI to regurgitate someone's voice back to them is not only an extremely slow operation to do currently, it also introduces a lot of privacy concerns and legality, on top of just not really being authentic. It stops being a "mimic" when it stops using your own words against your friends. This, instead, is just something speaking to you that sounds almost like your friend but speaks like a robot (we need to keep in mind that ChatGPT models written language, not spoken, and so wouldn't be suited for something like this in a natural way.) There are ways to make a concept like this work in, say, film or scripted game, but with AI voices they sound unnatural in the worst possible ways

[tame hemlock]

Not sure anyone would be fine with a mod to upload their voice to an ai lol

[ionic shoal]

oh im aware about ai voices xD

[ionic shoal]

you misunderstood.

i was suggesting the mod would split the audio up and store it on your pc, and then send TEXT to chatgpt, which then would reply with text.. and use that to play the correct audio to the player, but the "ai voice" thing is a big point.. xD

basically the same as now.. just.. storing letters, instead of just the whole clips.

but its more the recognition of the letters themselves, which, is too hard.

[tame hemlock]

That.. yeah that would take a long ass time to process lol

[lofty sorrel]

So you want it to stitch together letters to make words..?

[tame hemlock]

also, would come with so many errors

[ionic shoal]

aye, figured it was.. but as i say, worth a shout, but i never intended to send voices out of peoples pcs XD

[tame hemlock]

especially with how fast people talk in some situations

[ionic shoal]

basically, yeah, split your words down, send a text, receive a text, regurgitate said text using your own voice.

[lofty sorrel]

I don't think you quite understand how bad that would sound

[tame hemlock]

The English language is way too complex for something like that

[ionic shoal]

oh i do, but i was imagining a world where.. not just letters would be taken, but for example.. the different versions of each letter, but yes, i have way too complex thoughts, i should really get a lobotomy.

[ionic shoal]

yeah, im just no audio expert, i see mods for recognising audio, and mods speaking audio, so i asked the question 🙂

[lofty sorrel]

But also, what Qwbarch is doing with v2 is sort of similar to what you're suggesting anyway. Except it uses the text response to select an available voice clip rather than try to make its own voice clip

[ionic shoal]

ah thats cool, thats kind of along what i was thinking anyway, my motivation was more from that, im using the "no repeat" option, and sometimes the masked are silent, or say the most silly things... so i suddenly had the thought about using AI to pick the reply, or generate the reply.

[lofty sorrel]

#1200695291972685926 message

You're basically describing the plan

[ionic shoal]

ah didnt see the plan 😉 a lot of text in here and many threads 😄

[tame hemlock]

2.0 sounds.. impressive but also feel like it'd kill the funny moments that could happen with them using voice clips at random

[lofty sorrel]

It's in the pins

[lofty sorrel]

It's planned to be opt in anyway so you can keep that

[tame hemlock]

yeah, that's nice atleast

[lofty sorrel]

Barch is very much developing the mod from the perspective of trying to actually fool people rather than comedy, the randomness will probably always be more funny but not as immersive

[tame hemlock]

Do people play LC for immersive gameplay? lol

[lofty sorrel]

I think so, whole reason Lethal Resonance is so popular

[ionic shoal]

yeah, i dont tend to use pins :/ i only just started using them in private chats, so never imagine to check them in public channels xD sorry

the opt in bit, is interesting.

so if host sets to opt in, but others change their setting on their client to opt out.. they will still play random clips?

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah

Like how you can mute yourself in the config

[ionic shoal]

yeah, i like the opt in/out, just feel the setting will only ever get changed by hosts xD

[lofty sorrel]

I'm hoping for a better way to change those settings from ingame, cause most players won't touch the config for sure

[ionic shoal]

on that note.. i play to have fun.. if the game is funny... i prefer it over immersion (like the yippee sound on the loot bug)

BUT.... when a masked spouts random text i said once, 50 times.. we all know its a masked.. hence why i set "no repeat"
but if it also says something completely out of context... like "well bob, im going to go to the ship for 5 mins, brb" when your already in the ship...

sure.. the words are dumb.. for the context.. but you instantly know its a masked.. so the more funny moments where the masked actually fool you into thinking they are a player.. are lost.

my most funny interaction with a masked was before i used voice mimicking mods.

i went to go to the main entrance, my friend was like "the entrance is up here" (new moon for me)
so i go up there, and i see a figure standing there... i walk up to them speaking to them.. and they turn around and kill me.

it turns out my friend went inside after saying "the entrance is up here" and at the exact same moment, a masked left.. and stood there... and it was dark, so i was totally caught off guard and killed.. and it was hilarious.

so Immersive is not the opposite of funny imho.

[soft hollow]

Its the contrast of the two that help LC work

[ionic shoal]

indeed 🙂

i was just saying that immersive can be funny too, if done right.

[soft hollow]

The funny moments is what helps lower your guard of things before something evil hits and its the robbery of the humor is what can make it eerie

[ionic shoal]

i agree

[broken mango]

yeah mostly I have an immersive modpack too but rn I'm waiting for mods that add more to it to be updated or released-

Like biodiversity and the new verison of LLL as I always add the yippee lootbug sounds along with resonance

which often reminds me how sometimes people add too much or many things and make unplayable or just too much-

[ionic shoal]

that i can certainly agree with, when i started adding mods, it was like 30, and i was like "these people nuts? play with 100 mods", now i play with 100mods, and its mostly dependencies for other mods, but others have 300-500 mods and im like "eh? o.o too much!" lol

[broken mango]

yea rn I have 35 mods as mostly I have mods that are QL-

And only two or three mods that add custom scrap as mostly I wanna vanilla plus feel-

And me always updating and fixing stuff-

[ionic shoal]

i am exactly the same, but i made a set of modpacks, so i can just re-download my selections

so i can just easily install QOL and Vanilla+, and have a very vanilla experience with new players 🙂 probably is around 40 mods still though haha.

[deft cape]

i'll probably run any config stuff with the community first for feedback when i get there

[deft cape]

Mirage v1.5.3 is released:

• Fixed a bug that caused player dead bodies to disappear.

[soft hollow]

hm

nice

When is the romance the masked update tho..

[deft cape]

~~nothing is stopping you from doing that rn 😳 ~~

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/bhocolat-gif-24343951

[deft cape]

https://tenor.com/view/lenny-eyebrow-flirt-smile-gif-5516050

[soft hollow]

nice

[past pulsar]

so many mimics couldnt eat players, they just followed them around and stood right in them.
usually only spawned mimics could turn someome and then turned one just ran around players

[deft cape]

yikes i think i broke something last update sorry

[deft cape]

revert to the previous version for now

[past pulsar]

but we had so much fun anyways

my mimic said in my voice "slaughter them all"

shit was so funny

[deft cape]

😂

glad u still enjoyed it

[past pulsar]

i dont even remember saying that

but it was perfect for mimic

my mimic stood behind one other, and after other mimic killed someone, mine said slaughter them all

like it was scripted)

[deft cape]

u might like [v2](#1200695291972685926 message) when it eventually comes out

the goal is to make coincidences less of a coincidence

[past pulsar]

thats cool

waiting for it

[deft cape]

:D

will try to fix that new issue asap

[timber notch]

barch I’d like you to know that I tried Mirage’s Content Warning port last night and it only caused me to scream in fear several times

[timber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-lets-goo-lest-gooooooooooooooooo-gif-19416648

[timber notch]

@deft cape

Don’t watch this one there’s major audio desync— only keeping it bc some platforms can’t view webm’s

Wow there is a comical audio desync in that

but why tho

[deft cape]

audio is slightly delayed right? is that only for the recording 🤔

[timber notch]

Yeah the webm version should be fine

[deft cape]

i was braced for that creature to scream but it never did it once 😂

[timber notch]

I don’t think it came through on the recording

Because iirc it did in game

[deft cape]

ohh

[dark brook]

hm

i found a tape in cw with that one mod that has users upload their own into the game

[timber notch]

btw my friend had some performance issues playing on his steam deck that he doesn’t have on vanilla (or at least not nearly as bad)— do you think that could be partially caused by mirage?

[dark brook]

and there was one where the dude was definitely hearing the mobs mimic his voice, but there was nothing on recording

[deft cape]

quite possibly, i did fix an issue that caused stutters but i guess theres still some bugs remaining

i dont plan on working on the CW port unless theres major issues though

just focusing on the LC one again

[timber notch]

It was my first time modding the game so idk if there’s other mods that are known to cause performance issues

Oh he finally got lethal last night

[deft cape]

i guess the recordings just dont pick it up sadly

[timber notch]

I can’t wait to have him try mirage

[deft cape]

ayyy

[timber notch]

I’ve been at him for months

[deft cape]

content warning was the gateway huh 😂

[timber notch]

Yep

His first encounter with a coilhead was hilarious

(He knows little to nothing about lethal)

[deft cape]

lmao it's gonna be so funny when he encounters an exact clone of a player for the first time

i still remember the first time i met a masked enemy (without voice mimicking) i was bamboozled

even though it has a mask on

[deft cape]

just an FYI y'all, pushed v1.5.4 which just reverts back to v1.5.2 for now because of a bug that was introduced in the previous update

[broken mango]

what was it?

[eternal bridge]

mirage friendly masked update

[sly reef]

I wont lie, it's very good, but there is sometimes these extremely LOUD static noises it takes audio clips of

that and it tends to take A LOT of audio clips

[broken mango]

I know there's a mod that fixes that for mics but idk what

[deft cape]

this static noises seems to be a dissonance issue

ive noticed people's voices sounding really staticy at times, and mirage records it the exact way dissonance provides the audio

[deft cape]

brought back the duplicate masked enemy issue by accident 😭

[deft cape]

if you want to have less voice clips at a time you could try using the option that deletes recordings per round

switching to push to talk also helps, but i doubt that's something players in general would want to do

[deft cape]

yknow ur kinda right there, the bug was that some of the masked enemies wont kill u 😂

[deft cape]

Mirage v1.6.0 is released:

• Fixed a bug that caused player dead bodies to disappear.

This update is pretty much what v1.5.3 was supposed to be, without the bug that causes duplicate masked enemies to spawn.

[torpid arch]

yippee

[twin abyss]

oh my god that'd explain so much about how I was hearing coughing in my sessions a few weeks back .o.

I mute every time I am about to sneeze or cough or somethin'

n was like "Why are these enemies coughing?" ., .

always thinking maybe I forgot to mute sometimes

[azure forge]

Not sure if its due to Mirage or LethalEscape or something else, but we keep having masked getting stuck on entrances. They can still kill you if you get to close but they just walk in place stuck. Any new masked created from kills are fine though.

at one point we had a group of 5 masked stuck on the main entrance all talking to each other... was pretty funny

[trail cargo]

I noticed this in v49 on a custom moon, not noticed it on any vanilla moons

[deft cape]

is this since the last mirage update? what version are u on?

[deft cape]

yupp mb i wasnt even aware of it at all LOL

[deft cape]

hmm maybe it's got to do with certain custom moon's setups

[azure forge]

We are on v50 and has been happening over the last few days, not sure exactly when it started. We are only on vanila moons we dont have any modded moons. Might have been related to lethal escape if no one else is reporting it, switched to starlancer escape to test stuff out later tonight with my group.

[deft cape]

if it's from a few days ago that confirms it's not something i broke recently at least

@prisma pebble post here instead btw, i prefer not to work through dms

[deft cape]

is anyone else having this problem? @prisma pebble is seeing these errors.
i booted up their profile code 018f16d9-47e0-7bcb-86e8-fce33ba10d1e but wasn't able to replicate the error

spawned a masked enemy and it's running around just normal

im just trying to determine if this is an issue from the latest mirage update or if it's from another mod

[deft cape]

btw y'all, thoughts on having masked only spawn after half the day has gone by? (only if custom spawns is enabled on mirage)

[dark brook]

im honestly fine with how it is rn

nothing beats a 9 am masked on exp

[broken mango]

that I would love-

like maybe a true or false option

[viral obsidian]

I mean if it's gonna be configurable, it might as well let us pick an hour

[deft cape]

at most ill probably make it a true/false thing since i dont wanna make the config even more complicated

[deft cape]

ill just make it configurable but ill probably make it spawn after half the day by default

[clever knot]

Right now they spawns right when the day starts?

[deft cape]

i think so, it's whatever the defaults are

but some ppl have complained about it waiting at the entrance when they get there

[trail cargo]

I think it'd be good for it to at least have some degree of delay

enemies generally aren't spawned the second you start (eclipsed notwithstanding)

[deft cape]

oh true idk how ppl are getting spawns as soon as they walk in then

[trail cargo]

whatever this mod does to spawning seems to allow masks to instant-spawn

I'm also not sure they respect moon power level. I've had 4 or 5 of them chasing me at once even on intermediate moons

[deft cape]

it's the default though, i haven't changed the animation curves yet

but that just confirms i really should change it

[deft cape]

huh that shouldnt be possible

i capped natural spawns to 2

[trail cargo]

yeah, I have footage on custom moons of 5 or 6 of them being active, alongside other monsters being present

my group's kinda private so I shouldn't share it, but

[deft cape]

probably another mod overwrote the max spawns then

cuz i know for sure max spawns is set to 2

do u have any spawn control mods

[trail cargo]

nope

[deft cape]

hmm weird

[dry anchor]

for this stuff, if the host edits the config then it applies to all players, right?

like if host has all enemies set to true but someone else only has masked set to true they would hear all enemies since the host has it set?

[tame hemlock]

probably not

[dry anchor]

i feel like that would be kinda weird since it's synced to server, sorry for the ping @deft cape can you confirm?

[deft cape]

yeah they're all synced from the host

there's only like 2 settings that aren't synced AFAIK, which is explained in those specific descriptions

everything else (like the ones you showed) are all synced from the host

[dry anchor]

awesome, tysm

[fathom dust]

This is getting spammed EXTREMELY quickly on host only. I originally thought it was Masked Enemy Overhaul Fork, but the dev said it wasn't them. This is the only other mod I have that messes with Masks that I know of, so I'm asking if you know anything

[deft cape]

while it's unlikely it's from mirage (i don't mess with enemy ais), i still want to confirm it myself just in case

do you have a profile code?

also how often/when does this happen? if you could describe how to reproduce the error that'd be great

@fathom dust

[fathom dust]

018f189a-da56-6ada-555a-e765b2635ad9 Profile code, I sadly do not have consistent reproduction instructions as it wasn't happening for the first few rounds, but once it started it didn't stop

[deft cape]

now that i think about it, wasn't this an error that we used to see a long time ago that magically disappeared? @lofty sorrel

[deft cape]

ah all good, not sure i'll be able to figure it out then sadly, and while i highly doubt it's from mirage, there's still a possibility that it is coming from it

i'll test it a small bit but if i can't figure anything out, i'll just have to wait for more reports if anyone else has the issue

[fathom dust]

All good

[deft cape]

@fathom dust i dont remember if StarlancerAIFix fixes this exact error, but try installing that and see if it helps

i just know it fixes one of the vanilla error spam that happens with masked enemies

[fathom dust]

Sure, I’ll throw it in the pack next time we play

Not sure if this is vanilla but my log file grows like a MB every five seconds when it happens due to just how fast it spams, and it like halves my FPS

[deft cape]

i somewhat recognize this error as something that happened in the past, and it was more or less gone

which im assuming is because starlanceraifix gets rid of it, but i could be wrong

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

Looking at it

That's the vanilla bug that used to spam logs for me on v49

[fathom dust]

Anyway I’ll give it a try and report back if I see it again

[solemn ridge]

and Starlancer added a fix for it to AIFix

[deft cape]

niceeee audioknight is the goat for fixing that error 🙏

im glad it's not because of the new mirage update then

was kinda worried i introduced yet another bug

[fathom dust]

For sure, they’ve had some great contributions

[solemn ridge]

I recommend all of Starlancer's mods

[fathom dust]

Nah this was happening over the course of like the last four updates, and this was the only mod that messed with masked other than Overhaul Fork which is why I posted it here. Granted I had Starlancer AI Fix as a dependency for something else in the v49 version of my pack so I may have unintentionally been dodging a bullet this whole time

[deft cape]

hopefully it is that then 🙏

[fathom dust]

The outside bracken on australis or whatever it’s called led to one of the best clips I’ve ever seen, I was in the ship and my friend was running loot back, and I saw in the screen something following close behind him. I teleport him since it looked like he’s about to die (I thought it was a giant or something), and from his POV he turns around, sees a bracken RIGHT behind him (like three feet away) and goes like HOLY SHIT

the reaction after the teleport finished lmao, I saved his fucking life

I’ll have to see if I can get him to send me that clip later

Excuse the typos I’m on mobile

to be clear he had no idea why I was teleporting him and looked back to see why I was teleporting him out of nowhere

[deft cape]

lmaoo perfect timing save

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah it's what spams when the Masked can't pathfind for whatever reason

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AgitatedInquisitiveDoveTinyFace-3Ja5-A1Le-C25ndo

https://clips.twitch.tv/ChillyBrainyTermitePupper-FaYa_KcDR_1kw1p2

@deft cape

LOL

[solemn ridge]

The other mimic at the end there saying "Get them heated" too

They both flexed

XD

[deft cape]

mrov sent that to me earlier, actually so perfect 😂

u keep getting some good mirage clips lately LOL

[torpid arch]

LOL

what a fucking flex

[solemn ridge]

Lmao the moment Debby got was borderline hilarious XD the mimic of me peeking out the corner saying Hey then when she ran away scared it said "Sorry" 😭

[deft cape]

yeaaaa that "sorry" was just chef's kiss

i didn't even notice it the first time but it just makes it even better 😂

[solemn ridge]

It was like it felt bad for scaring her XD

[deft cape]

masked enemy empathy update

[fathom dust]

I had like three voicelines back to back that were just perfect, lemme upload them now

the following videos detail my single-round saga of unlocking the apparatus room door and leaving with my hard-earned spoils

[safe sundial]

So me and my pal are using mirage and we figured that fx his voice i cant hear and when i can hear my own voice he cant. Like its not syncded

@deft cape

[lofty sorrel]

Do you mean you can't hear his voice at all? Or only when it's being mimicked by an enemy?

[safe sundial]

I cant hear his mimicked voice and he cant himself. But i can hear my own mimic voices.

[lofty sorrel]

Did this happen last time you played the game?

If so, could you post the log here? And if you could also post your Mirage config file that would be useful as well

[safe sundial]

Like i can only hear my own mimick voice but my buddy cant hear either mine or his

[daring bloom]

Is there any difference between Mirage and MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork + Skinwalker?

[carmine lichen]

Skinwalker deletes the voice recording when you close the game,
with this you have a setting that let's you use audio from previous sessions.

Also skinwalker isn't synced between players

so when you hear a voice, others usually hear silence

with this every player will hear the same thing

[daring bloom]

o nice alright, thanks for the info

[viral obsidian]

V2 of mirage will be way cooler when it comes out though

Since it will make sounds based on context

[carmine lichen]

and there are probably more differences, but i remember those two

[viral obsidian]

Among other behavioural changes

[carmine lichen]

also yeah v2 will have an AI that decides what to say in response

still picking from your clips, but not at random

[daring bloom]

That sounds awesome

[carmine lichen]

On the other hand, MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork has a Zombie apocalipse mode.
And this doesn't do that

but if you want that mode you can use that mod with Mirage

I was also about to suggest just implementing that mode here, so that we can deprecate MEOf

[viral obsidian]

imo mods should stick with a core focus and that doesn't seem to fit here
Barch could disagree though so worth putting it out there, yeah

Probably not happening soon though, given their prior commitments and wanting to do v2

[carmine lichen]

Maybe you could join forces with Coppertiel and focus on this. Simmilairly how Lethal Resonanace merged two simmilar mods

[daring bloom]

MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork also has dancing so that makes it even more convincing

[carmine lichen]

how compatible is that? I'm about to do that in my modpack. Is it like on the verge of conflicting between the two mods?

If there was a small mod, that was a plugin meant to be used with Mirage, for implementing the zombie apocalypse mode.
Would that be a better soltution than just using MEOf with this?

[viral obsidian]

The apocalypse mode would be less of a plugin to the mod, rather a separate mod itself (if the question was directed to me).
But yeah it should still be compatible if done correctly

[tame hemlock]

*Will have a toggle though

[deft cape]

LOL masked protecting its nest

[deft cape]

could you ask your friend to send their logs?

and yours as well actually

this is my first time hearing this being an issue

so im not sure what could be the problem yet

[deft cape]

nah my goal isn't to overtake MEOF, the reason mirage has a bunch of its features is because it makes sense as a baseline for boice mimicking with maskrf enemies.
the zombie apocalypse feature is for-fun and is better left to MEOF, so like necrowing mentioned, i dont plan on implementing that into mirage

[fathom dust]

was a bracken there actually which is even more terrifying

just telling me to chill and stay back so it can snap my neck

[deft cape]

you mean mirage + meof? theres a config you need to enable in MEOF to make it compatible with mirage, but other than that, it works fine together

[deft cape]

lmfaoo

[deft cape]

@safe sundial but yeah send me logs when you can. it sounds like for whatever reason the audio isn't being networked at all, since you're only able to hear yourselves

[safe sundial]

What do you mean?

Like the command prompt?

And i checked and it does log out voices but i cant hear him and he cant hear me or himself

[deft cape]

oh i thought he could hear only himself

if he can't hear anybody... does he even have the mod installed?

[safe sundial]

Yeah

And it saves the mp3 too

Too the folder Mirage

[deft cape]

weird this is the first time ive ever heard of this being an issue

can you and your friend go to your profile on r2modman, go to settings, and then search up "log" and press that button

and then just paste it here

@safe sundial

[eternal bridge]

i killed my friend he came back and he was screming at me to repent my sins

[safe sundial]

r2modman?

Wdym?

[deft cape]

are you using thunderstore mod manager?

[safe sundial]

Yeah

[deft cape]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-game-of-thrones-sinner-guilty-go-t-gif-7454528

[deft cape]

you can probably do something similar there to grab the logs

i don't use it so idk the exact thing but

i need the logs to be able to help any further

[safe sundial]

Here this is mine

[deft cape]

perfect, can you ask your friend for his as well

[safe sundial]

I cant right now.

But can i dm you it when i get it?

[deft cape]

wait

dont need it actually

i see errors on your log

are you on v49 or v50?

[safe sundial]

50

50 is the right one yeah?

[deft cape]

yeah

one of the mods you have seems to be touching things it shouldn't

[safe sundial]

Which one?

[deft cape]

im not sure yet

trying to see

can you send your profile code

[safe sundial]

Whats that?

[deft cape]

this for example (on r2modman)

[safe sundial]

018f1bfe-80cb-0339-5cc4-333a78876f75

[deft cape]

hmm thats weird none of the mods i see in your list should have issues

since your modpack is so tiny i can probably figure this out

so i'll let you know (and give you a new profile code) when i've found it

[safe sundial]

So mabey i know why it dosent work.

Could that be the reason?

[viral obsidian]

You didn't mention a reason, so can't exactly answer? But Barch mentioned it's likely a conflict with another mod so a solution (or at least diagnosis) should be here soonish

[deft cape]

yeah so the issue just seems to be that they're not on v50 while the mods are updated for v50

for example

[Error  : Unity Log] MissingMethodException: Method not found: void .EnemyAI.SetEnemyOutside(bool)

this is a v50 only method AFAIK

modpack works completely fine for me as well which just confirms it

[soft hollow]

Barch

im dying

[deft cape]

whats going on my g

[soft hollow]

the mods

they wont stop upadating

the bugs keep multiplying

the the moons and interiors are on their way back for v50

IM NEVER GONNA RELEASE

[deft cape]

bro never getting that v50 pack at this rate 😔

is it time to remake the pack

[soft hollow]

I did

twice

Its like

ready to play test

but there is still more that i need to add

[graceful latch]

I'm feeling the same with my pack for my friend group

never gonna be able to play it with them since I still need to wait for v50 compat with most moons and random mods

[fathom dust]

Has anyone experienced the Masked being invisible sometimes (besides MoreCompany cosmetics)? I’ve had it happen sometimes on v49 and had it happen on v50 yesterday. Probably not caused by this mod but I’m asking here since there’s a higher likelihood someone ran into it here while messing with masked

[deft cape]

i think it was an issue in the past

like masked enemies being invisible while MC cosmetics being visible

which i think had to do with MC itself, @flint heron do u happen to know anything about that? i could be remembering wrong

i remember there being a discussion about this in #1206494982521753620 in the past

[eternal bridge]

i know about this

it's a bug with the ship door; when you're in the ship and the door is closed enemy models stop rendering

its something to do with the game not realizing that the door is open and it should start rendering enemies again

[deft cape]

@fathom dust is this related to your issue? or it's something different

[fathom dust]

No, I caught a clip of it happening, let me upload it

ignore the stupid bullshit happening otherwise lol

Everyone was seeing it like that with the actual mimic being invisible, including the alive person

Notably this was not with all mimics, there was another mimic he ran into later in the same round that had their body visible

It's possible the other person that was alive was in the ship at that time (not sure where they were) but yeah

[eternal bridge]

i have a mod suggestion for your modpack

add masked ai revamp but disable the behaviors so it's just the radar animation

[flint heron]

not sure, I just experienced an issue whilst using MEOF where the masked enemy was completely invisible including cosmetics though

(I don't have mirage though so it won't be a mirage issue)

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-meme-deepfried-oh-nah-bruh-gif-23469570

[fathom dust]

I am also using MEOF although tbh I can probably justify disabling it because the nametag feature is currently broken I think, and Mirage has all of the other functionality I'd need from it

I'll look into doing that in the meantime

[deft cape]

i dont think it's an MEOF problem

[eternal bridge]

hey qwbarch

do your voicelines get copied when you're dead?

[deft cape]

it's likely just an issue with maskrd enemies in general then so meof/mirage has this issue

[deft cape]

it stops recording u if ur dead

[eternal bridge]

you should add a secrte lil toggle for that

[deft cape]

thanks for confirming

[eternal bridge]

oh actually

yeah

thats a idea

[deft cape]

out of curiosity though is there a reason u haven't switched to mirage

[eternal bridge]

the first person who dies gets their lines recorded so you can mess with your friends from beyond the grave

[deft cape]

curious if theres a feature thats making u not want to switch

[deft cape]

sure i could add that

[flint heron]

I play public lobbies and not everyone has mirage so MEOF makes more sense

[eternal bridge]

yeah it would be fun to just say "yoo guys im still alive i dont know how"

[deft cape]

ah thats def a huge con to mirage for sure

[regal sandal]

cant you have both

[deft cape]

mirage wont work properly if not everyone has it

[flint heron]

i use skinwalker + MEOF

cuz skinwalker works without everyone having it

[regal sandal]

why not mirage and MEOF

oh

[fathom dust]

Yeah the only reason I use MEOF is for the nametag feature (which is currently broken), if Mirage added that I'd have no reason to keep MEOF

[deft cape]

i do plan on adding nametags bit thats for way later after v2

[regal sandal]

what about removing the mask

[fathom dust]

Pretty sure Mirage has this too but I might be wrong

[eternal bridge]

the only reason i got it is so masked blow up on landmines (it's more realistic and also funny asf)

[deft cape]

mirage already does that

[regal sandal]

fr?

I'm removing MEO then

[deft cape]

read the feature list again (or config)

you'll see theres quite a bit of overlap in features

[regal sandal]

what dose MEO have that Mirage doesn't

[deft cape]

nametags, mask fade animation, zombie apocalypse mode, masked triggers mines (MEOF only)

[regal sandal]

whats mask fade animation

[deft cape]

FYI if ur gonna use MEO, use MEOF instead

go on MEO's page and read up on it

[regal sandal]

k

[regal sandal]

dose mirage support cosmetics and player skins

[deft cape]

that works out of the box

mirage doesnt do anything in particular to make it work

cosmetics mods do it themselves

[regal sandal]

oh

[deft cape]

haven't made a progress update in awhile so i figured i'd just mention it right now.
progress has been a bit slow because of a combination of previously trying to fix bugs for the content warning port of mirage, bug fixes for the lethal company version of mirage, as well just overall not spending enough time on v2 itself.

back on the v2 grind now, and as previously mentioned, i'll be rewriting the entire thing to have a better baseline to work off of, and then i'll be integrating oeis' work on the machine learning stuff after my rewrite is complete.

as for now, i've implemented SileroVAD for voice activity, and it's working really well with negligble performance cost (my fps looks the same as without it).
progress will be somewhat slow since i'm putting extra effort on making the rewrite more performant

and of course if you're new to mirage and haven't seen what's coming for v2, you can read up on the planned upcoming features [here](#1200695291972685926 message)

[wind crown]

will this setting just eventually nuke your device-storage real quick? so never means it never deletes it and eventually your free space is gone?

[dawn cloud]

was literally just about to ask how is profress lol

[cursive pebble]

Hello, I have a question. I'm sorry if this question has already been sorted out, my english is bad and it's hard to find information.

I can't hear my voice from the monsters. I played with my friends, we had the same settings for this mod, they heard themselves, but my voice never sounded.

Maybe who knows what the reason is?

[wind crown]

checked this setting? maybe its set to true for you. but by default should be false

[cursive pebble]

Yes, its "false"

[wind crown]

it was worth a try ig :D idk either then. sry

[cursive pebble]

Everything is fine. My friends and I don't understand what the problem is either 😄

[lofty sorrel]

Not quick, the files aren't that big

[wind crown]

ok. whats the files location? where are those audio files stored?

[lofty sorrel]

Same plsce as save files, AppData/LocalLow

[deft cape]

could you send your logs? i just want to double check something

[deft cape]

like debby said it's still pretty slow. if you're concerned about storage space you should leave it to autodelete when closing the game

[azure forge]

Question if I want masked to spawn outside do I need to use MEOF with Mirage? I see that Mirage has the spawn chance so I think the only thing I am looking for is the outside spawn to go with it.

[deft cape]

mirage already does that so no need for MEOF

[azure forge]

Awesome thanks!

[cursive pebble]

How do I do this?
Do I need to play again to record something, or have the logs already been recorded?

Sorry, I'm not good at this.

[lofty sorrel]

Have you played again since you last had the issue?

[cursive pebble]

No, we were testing and playing with friends when I had the same problem. (The last time was yesterday)

Only if I forgot that I went to test the settings again.

I also tried playing alone with just this mod (and the supporting mods). And I heard some kind of unnatural rustling for the game, but not my own voice. Or was I so unlucky with it?

I do not know if it is possible to play with this mod alone (to be the only player in the round).

[ionic shoal]

do you mean an irritating noise? i just got an irritating noise... was hoping i was imagining it

[cursive pebble]

It's hard to explain because it was only once. But yes, it was strange, like a sigh with noises.

[ionic shoal]

yeah, i was just updating my mods and changing some settings, jumped into a moon, and im not wearing a headset, a masked was around,... and i started hearing a weird "squeak" like noise, but as i wasnt wearing my headset, i was like "eh?" and continued testing, i figured as i was on a moon id never played before (PsychSanctum) that it maybe just audio from the moon, also i installed some more mods (which i was testing), so could be related to one of them, but then i saw your comment and was like "interesting" o.o

[cursive pebble]

By the way, I also tested this alone with a masked xD

[ionic shoal]

well my initial thoughts were..

ive just changed the "delete recordings after every round setting" to off after having it on forever.
I have my mic muted (mute toggle, not actually muted)

so i wondered if it had recorded "nothing" and the "squeak" was it trying to play "nothing".

but yeah, i d k, wasnt even going to mention it til i saw your comment lol

[cursive pebble]

Have you heard your voice with this mod?

[deft cape]

squeak thing is probably just mirage recording dissonance when it gave it bad audio

sometimes happens when dissonance bugs out

[cursive pebble]

So something is being recorded but not the voice?

I'll probably go into the game again later to test, maybe my voice will be recorded after all

[deft cape]

well it'd only be if it's trying to record your voice to begin with

sometimes player voices can sound bugged when playing the game itself

when that happens, mirage records the same thing and will also sound bugged

[ocean terrace]

I would love if you could add hiding name tags. My friend group use a hide name tag mod on top of this but for some reason that mod also hides interaction Prompts

[clever knot]

GeneralImprovements has that feature if you want

[deft cape]

kinda does make sense to add as a default feature so i might look into it in the future

[clever knot]

MEOF has a feature that does the inverse, adding name tags to maskeds, idk if you'd be interested in adding something like that too

[deft cape]

one day ill probably add it

but removing the name tag is just easier so that'll be the default

[clever knot]

yeah for sure

[deft cape]

plus i just personally prefer having name tags off since ive always played like that

[ocean terrace]

Thank you for the recommendation. This mod seems to do a lot so I will look at it more later

[solemn ridge]

MEOF removed that feature cus it got broken with V50

[deft cape]

i mentioned about changing the masked enemy's spawn curve before, gonna just not do that actually

lunxara tested my changed spawn curve and it's just them barely spawn

easier if i just dont touch it so fuck it LOL

[sturdy python]

no they spawn

I've died and they're spawning, they're just spawning too late and at a time where we're just kinda wrapping things up inside

[deft cape]

wait

nvm

[sturdy python]

yeah

[deft cape]

i thought u were someone else for a sec

lmao

[sturdy python]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-deployed-alien-cat-gif-10264569409756179931

[deft cape]

hmm

[deft cape]

whats ur thoughts on stable version though? too early?

[sturdy python]

In my personal opinion

How do I word this

uhh

Yeah I think them spawning early kinda hurts the fact of trying to being a fake player