Mirage

[light jacinth]

oops

that's definitely a huge one

[deft cape]

yeah just want ppl to know about it, since it wasn't working supported for quite some time

[light jacinth]

at this point, people should just call em doppelgangers lol

[deft cape]

y'know i was actually thinking of calling mirage that instead at one point

but i just wanted a shorter name

cuz typing doppelgangers is just so damn long

[light jacinth]

cant wait to bump into my friend's thicc doppelganger. it was pretty obvious before it wasnt him, but now the MRApi thicc suit will show. 🔥

true

i wish we could just say mimic

but the fire exit mimic exists

[deft cape]

yeahhhh

mimic is the best name for it imo

it's short and simple

and everyone already calls it that tbh

[deft cape]

LMAOO

even better, get ur VR headset on and just look down

[light jacinth]

lmao it wont show

[deft cape]

oh :(

[light jacinth]

actually that was the issue i brought up with MRApi dev

[deft cape]

😭

[light jacinth]

ur thicc suit was rendering over the camera and obscuring vision

[deft cape]

i guess it's time for another report

o

nvm that sounds like something not easily fixable since it's not changing the camera location

[light jacinth]

in LCVR, ur only supposed to see ur arms

[deft cape]

U MEAN I CANT LOOK DOWN AT MY BAZINGAS? sadge

[light jacinth]

u could look at ur friend's bazingas instead

[deft cape]

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-gif-21821822

[light jacinth]

i still have to look into one issue that pervades either flatscreen and LCVR.. and that's my cosmetics popping up on other players when i emote, looking through mirror, or look through polaroid camera.

[deft cape]

i remember bunya saying they might make a separate m od where it changes the camera location rather than being a cosmetic-only mod, so that could potentially fix it covering the camera

[deft cape]

the MC cosmetics im assuming?

[light jacinth]

yeah

#1187188516644474911 message

[deft cape]

might be a @flint heron thing, pretty sure he's the one maintaining MC right now

[light jacinth]

fr? the original author isnt working on it anymore?

[solemn ridge]

The original Author just pushes the changes live

Kind of like how Eba pushes the updates for LL and LT live on TS but no longer works on them

[light jacinth]

i dont see an update for MC tho.. not since February

[deft cape]

yeah 1a3 has been pushing a ton of updates, author of MC just hasn't pushed it on TS yet

[light jacinth]

and with that version i didnt have any cosmetics issues until later last month

[deft cape]

think they said they're waiting for v50 to push it

[light jacinth]

so thats why i dont think its MC

[deft cape]

ah

ah i just read what bunya was talking about in your linked message

so it is MRAPI then

now that i think about it, i saw all those messages in the past, just had no idea what u guys were talking about since i skimmed through them lmao

[light jacinth]

i did suspect, but i wasnt sure if it really was the case. me and my friend in that image arent wearing MRApi suits. we do have the mod, just not wearing it.

[deft cape]

@glossy aspen does MRAPI touch a player's cosmetics if a custom model isnt being used?

if not then it might actually just be something for 1a3 to look into

[glossy aspen]

Yes, what is the issue?

[deft cape]

this @glossy aspen although sashimi already reported this and you responded there: #1187188516644474911 message

was just curious cuz if there's 0 chance it's from MRAPI then 1a3 would probably have to look into it, but in this case i'm guessing it's an MRAPI issue?

[glossy aspen]

That's 100% a cullingmask/layer issue.

Unfortunately there is no standard for culling masks or layers.

Thanks for the report though. I will look into it and probably have something released with the other bug fixes next update.

[polar skiff]

Does mirage work on v50?

[lofty sorrel]

Last we checked it does yes

[mighty citrus]

is all setting depends on the host cfg file or everyone need to change?

[lofty sorrel]

Some settings are independant to each player, like when to delet recordings or muting yourself, but everything else will sync to the host automatically

[soft hollow]

Omg

@twin abyss can I like

Ask for your help for my readmes

[twin abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-yoshi-cas-van-de-pol-how-to-train-your-dragon-gif-3895550527008532813

Sure ., .

[soft hollow]

You sound enthralled, you don’t have to

[twin abyss]

Just shove me a DM of yer entire readme and I'll gib edits 'n stuffs. Probably not anytime soon cause I haven't eaten in like 16 hours

and I stupidly wasted more time on Blender like I could make something

-u- Gotta love stubbornness

[soft hollow]

Throw enough hours into anything and you’ll have to have made something

[twin abyss]

I don't believe in that myself - cause I've thrown nearly a day and have failed. -w -

[soft hollow]

Its just a matter of how much pain you can withstand before then

[twin abyss]

Too little

https://tenor.com/view/cat-catcry-gif-19131995

[soft hollow]

Lmao

I feel the same way editing anything in Davinci resolve

Inside of my brain feels like the gmod item prop collision sound effect

[twin abyss]

after failing hard enough - it's the HL2 death sound

in my head

most of the time - combine-sounding

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-ragdoll-video-game-video-game-gif-20573521

[torpid arch]

dear god no

[soft hollow]

Haha

[soft hollow]

Get those hours up

[torpid arch]

can I not

lol

[eternal bridge]

hazards outside

[deft cape]

oh all good the repeating voice thing should be fixed now

[slim basin]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Rise/RemoveMasked/

i guess this is fake?

[blazing pilot]

Oh a clone of a clone of a clone of a mod about clones?

There's a specific thread for that mod. See here: https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1184403394660663326

[eternal bridge]

the mask man talk

he is sayign words to me

[glossy aspen]

Those nametags should be fixed now, as well as the weird cosmetic issue.

I don't know why I've received half of my bug reports in the Mirage channel, but the feedback is appreciated.

[light jacinth]

damn i thought qwbarch was the mrapi dev

[lofty sorrel]

Wha why

[deft cape]

lmaoo thanks bunya 🫡

[deft cape]

ended up just deciding to port mirage over to content warning despite (content warning game spoilers) ||there already being a voice mimicking monster in the game||
i'll resume work on v2 after my port is finished, mostly just copy pasting mirage and then removing the game specific functions with cw's instead so it shouldn't take toooooo long

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape Mirage is not deleting the files on game exit, I've closed the game plenty of times without errors or crashes

and it never deletes them

Your mod brokey bls fix

[deft cape]

send logs i wanna confirm something

one of ur mods is definitely screwing up onapplicationquit

[solemn ridge]

I'm telling you quite literally the logs say nothing

The only thing I can guess it would be is Async Loggers

Cus it touches how the game quits

[deft cape]

can u try mirage 1.2.0

[solemn ridge]

@fiery hazel Is it possible Async Loggers prevents Mirage from deleting voice files on exit?

[deft cape]

since im assuming that one was fine

i highly doubt it

plus i run asybcloggers and it deletes fine for me

[solemn ridge]

Weird

[fiery hazel]

unless async logers is crashing the game, absolutely nope

[solemn ridge]

Do you have it set to Await though? I changed it to be set to Await

[solemn ridge]

Tf

[fiery hazel]

also i heard you use the onApplicationQuitting qbarch

i use the quitting event instead that should happend as the last thing

[deft cape]

idk what u mean by setting it to await, what's "it"?

[deft cape]

oh yeah ill go read up on the quitting event then

[deft cape]

either way @solemn ridge try and see if an older version works

cuz if not that means another mod is definitely screwing it up

[fiery hazel]

i was originally using wantsToQuit but then people pointed out that quitting was more fitting

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape it makes logs finish writing before exit

Maybe the difference is that you use Instant

Idk

[fiery hazel]

oh if you have the onApplicationQuitting in the Plugin class then it will not run as BepInEx removes the object after the Awake call ( unless in the BepInEx config is set to hide )
only event that is ensured to run is the Awake, not even the start

[solemn ridge]

I have that setting set to false

[fiery hazel]

yeah and @solemn ridge has it set to false as it is the suggested value

[solemn ridge]

That might be why the files don't delete for me then

[deft cape]

logs arent even related so it's def not that

[fiery hazel]

so @deft cape you cannot rely on any events other than the Awake

event in the meaning of the Unity methods inside a component

[deft cape]

yeah it's registered in awake if thats what u mean

oh wait

jk ill read again in a bit

making food rn

[fiery hazel]

i do not know how to read your f# code 😅

[solemn ridge]

Yeah barch is built different unfortunately

lol

Idk why he uses F# tbh

[fiery hazel]

dnspy time i guess

nvm you are already using quitting

also love that you simply ignore any errors while deleting 🤔

[solemn ridge]

Would explain why the logs say nothing

[fiery hazel]

even DnSpy is mad about F# but at least it is somewhat readable 😅

@solemn ridge can you try Async_Experimental, current async does have an exception while closing if the Db is disabled

[solemn ridge]

Sure

[solemn ridge]

Was there a reason why you deprecated LobbyControl Experimental again btw? You never pushed the changes for Async Loggers to the stable branch lol

Idk if those were needed or not tbf

[fiery hazel]

LobbyControl Experimental is now in line with main so i deprecated it

[solemn ridge]

Ah

[fiery hazel]

while AsyncLoggers_Experimental is going to always stay deperecated so i do not get false reports from people dowloading it in stead of the main one

as i recently passed 6k downloads on last version 😄

[deft cape]

it's because i don't want people to think there's an issue if it fails to delete because of perms

[deft cape]

i'll put a version with it logged in experimental later

[deft cape]

cuz it's just easier and less typing imo

[fiery hazel]

compiled code is so much worse tho, i'd not be surprised if that could cause some performance issues 🤔

but the mod does not have any perf issues atm so all fine

just feels like looking at obfuscated code 😂

[solemn ridge]

Okay well interesting

[deft cape]

it's certainly worse than pure c# since there's more indirection

but in practice it's not really an issue unless i'm writing cpu bound code

[solemn ridge]

With AsyncLoggers_Experimental

it deleted all but one of the files

Tf

[deft cape]

and all of this mod is io bound, except for i suppose stuff in v2 i suppose, but those parts are in python, which are delegated to C by the libraries anyways

wha- so async loggers did affect it somehow? im so confused

[solemn ridge]

Why is the 1 file still remaining though?

XD

[deft cape]

cuz it hates u 😭

[fiery hazel]

Async registers itself in the quitting before it, so if the callback crashes it prevents subsequent callbacks from beeing executed

[blazing pilot]

It's probably partially written the the io stream didn't close gracefully

[deft cape]

yea but lunxara said shes' not getting any errors on quit right, so thats why im confused

[fiery hazel]

idk, i know Diffoz reported me there was a crash on quit qith DB disabled ( an NRE ) so i fixed it

[solemn ridge]

I did sometimes crash on exit before with the db logging disabled

But the interesting thing was it would always be LGU that threw an error

XD

[deft cape]

pretty sure the issue is still not with mirage based on what im hearing

[fiery hazel]

it was not a hard crash, just an exception thrown and logged to Player.log

[solemn ridge]

For me I got a hard crash earlier and this is what was logged

It was when I quit from main menu

[fiery hazel]

yeah no the quitting is litterally alt-f4 or closing the game entirely

[solemn ridge]

So what would the solution for all of the files from mirage to get deleted be? Have it run it's code first?

[fiery hazel]

me fixing async 😂 which i did in Experimental and will push soon to main
( or keep db enabled )

[solemn ridge]

Haha

It's still weird that the 1 file remained but yeah

It at least deleted them

I may just keep the experimental build in the pack if it's not gonna cause issues

Seems to be the safer solution tbh

[fiery hazel]

nah it's exeprimental because i added a new API upon request and i'm waiting for the requester to test it. anything else is bugfixes so it's 100% sable

[deft cape]

@eternal bridge have u got the chance to run the latest version? just curious if u still run into the issue of the same voice clips being played multiple times in a row

[fallen crow]

Hi. Is there any plan to disable the feature that forces Masked to be spawned, and overrides the spawn weights set in LLL/LQ? I would really prefer to use this mod over Skinwalkers.

[fallen crow]

Or... do i read it right that MirageExperimental already solves this issue?

[dark talon]

just EnableOverrideSpawnChance = false. Mirage stable branch

and SpawnOnPlayerDeath = 0 if that's what you want

[fallen crow]

I just read on the thunderstore app site that this is not aviable, I'll check it leter when i have time, thank you very much :D

[dark talon]

that setting was just introduced in 1.3.0. should be working.

[deft cape]

xCore is correct, this is indeed how to turn off custom spawns

[gilded lion]

does Mirage work with v50?

[clever knot]

ye

[gilded lion]

awesome! Thanks

[soft hollow]

@deft cape

save me

[deft cape]

on the davinci grind 💪

[soft hollow]

when i die and go to hell

My little corner of hell will consit of one computer

with a single stick if 2gb ram

a gtx 1660 super

and a 2 core cpu

[deft cape]

now the real question is, are u editing vids or are u doing image stuff with davinci 🤔

[soft hollow]

installed on the computer is davinci resolve

and I have to edit 500tb of 4k footage

and then i get to go free

[soft hollow]

both

[deft cape]

what the hell that's the most storage i've ever heard of someone having

im jealous

[soft hollow]

its all a harddrive

[slim basin]

When lethal phones synergy done?

[eternal bridge]

is it planned for masked to talk over walkies? (either just in general, when they're near a walkie? or, if it's planned, when they're holding one?)

[clever knot]

Well for that maskeds would first need to be able to grab stuff

[broken mango]

Yea yea

[autumn glen]

https://tenor.com/view/not-a-big-fan-of-gif-6347111278764649331

[nova star]

Is there a way to set how many recordings to have as a maximum?

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/3fs-confused-gif-16909577773645274186

[deft cape]

not planned for now

[deft cape]

probably not anytime soon, if it foes get added it'd have to be after v2

[deft cape]

thats planned for v2

edit: oops i want to clarify, the max mb of storage will be configurable, not the # of recordings

[soft hollow]

30 on 30

[eternal bridge]

ideas: carry items: If not a flashlight, maybe holding a random item that would naturally spawn on the current moon. Seeing a Masked hauling around an Axle, then drop it whenever they hold out their hands to pursue me would be a little dreadful in the moment (maybe slap some modified hoarding bug code? just for dropping/picking up items with something added so that they can turn items off/on... maybe make them click flashlights on/off?)

maybe a random (also configurable) chance for Masked to jump when they see you/jump across gaps/actually climb ladders?

masked will occasionally emote upon seeing a player (dance, point, crouch, etc) and if you have modded emotes (more emotes, not toomanyemotes) they will do those as well
masked can enter/exit fire exits and will get killed by mimic fire exits

[deft cape]

at most i'll probably just look into making masked enemies hold the items the player was previously holding

if it wont take too long to implement at least

need to finish my CW port b4 i look at it, and no promise that i'll implement it anytime soon either if it looks like it'd take too long

for emotes: masked can already use emotes, it's a feature from the emote mods itself (not sure if all of them have it, but ik it exists)

for the fire exits and whatever changes that requires AI changes, i prob wont be doing that since i want to avoid changing the AI until im ready to start overhauling it as a whole

also IMO having it die to mimic doors doesnt sound like too good of an idea since that'll just often result in less masked enemies around

similar to someone else's feature request where they wanted dogs to attack an enemy that mimics a voice

if that happens, the main difference is when you go outdoors, the enemies that can talk will probably just be gone

since the dogs killed them before you've even seen them

[twin abyss]

TooManyEmotes - best emote mod ;p

[deft cape]

oh yeahh that's what it's called

[eternal bridge]

bruh

its just silly af

like the emotes are just like standard(t) unity mocap thingies

only reason i got it is so i can make the masked stop and stare for a really long time

[twin abyss]

tis large amount of emotes in TME

I got a lot of favs in it

[lofty sorrel]

I really would like it to have more simple emotes tbh

[soft hollow]

@solemn ridge @deft cape ive heard a lot of chatter about symbiosis, what kind of problems is it casuing yall?

just cleaning up my modpack and got reminded i forgot to ask about this earlier

[deft cape]

its stench of death feature revives corpses / masked enemies after a minute of them being dead

technically not an "issue", but ppl thought mirage was bugged when it was another mod reviving masked enemies

[soft hollow]

ive never heard of such a thing

[deft cape]

just go to the symbiosis page and then search up stench of death and you'll see 😉

[soft hollow]

i know what it is

it just has never revived a masked

[deft cape]

yea i meant search up stench of death on the mod page

[soft hollow]

I

[deft cape]

wait it only says flies actually

[deft cape]

idek anymore

but bodies disappearing and becoming masked enemies sure isnt from mirage 😭

cuz i didnt code that in

[soft hollow]

well it doesnt happen for me or Shatter's modpack

and his beefy boy has 230+ mods

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge u have some other wack mod that's bringing back the dead

[soft hollow]

surprised that tank of a modpack runs (with my help)

[deft cape]

👀

might try out shatters modpack without the cosmetics and suits

[soft hollow]

we did a test run today of pre release

went good

im lying

the modpack worked

the people did not

they are morons

i have video evidence

[deft cape]

🤨

what was even the problem

[soft hollow]

boils down to

L employee's

3 braincells amogst 5 people

but modpack works great

[brazen steeple]

maybe its this one?

[deft cape]

nah she doesnt have that installed

honestly no clue what's reviving stuff in her modpack

[deft cape]

sounds like me when im playing

i just run around like a headless chicken

[broken mango]

Fr fr-

I might try to host another v50 game

Making me wonder if people would get fooled by the masked-

Though people are too busy or playing CW

[viral obsidian]

Content warning is kinda adjacent but yeah less people rn

[drowsy venture]

it doesn't seem to work on peepers..?

[eternal bridge]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1226541592421073007

[solemn ridge]

No

[solemn ridge]

I don't use that mod

[swift violet]

Hey, you said that V2 would be quite GPU intensive due to machine learning, will this be true for all players or just the host? Secondly, will an RTX3070 do the trick? ty

[viral obsidian]

I would assume the 3070 would be just fine lol

[lofty sorrel]

What do you want me to do w this

[eternal bridge]

you said simple emotes i gave yu simple emotes

[lofty sorrel]

His plan is to have lower spec clients offload work to higher spec clients. So if you have the best PC out of your group, you'll be doing the most computations

[eternal bridge]

idk maybe make it more see-able (boost da popularity)

[lofty sorrel]

Giving me an idea you have for emotes isn't the same as giving me the emotes 😭, but also there isn't really anything I can do to increase visibility. If someone wants to make it, they'll make it

[eternal bridge]

yeah i already made one of those posts

but someone deleted it

idk why

[lofty sorrel]

We'll very rarely manually delete any threads. At most lock them. Either you got sniped by automod for something, or you got done in by Discord

[lofty sorrel]

It did last I tried it

[lofty sorrel]

It does that??? I thought it just made them stinky

[deft cape]

nah i misread the description oops

either way that feature doesnt come from mirage, cuz bodies that are already on the ground cant magically disappear and spawn a masked enemy

that itself is a coded in feature of another mod for sure

[deft cape]

not sure if it'd be considered gpu "intensive", but a 3070 is way more than enough.

like debby mentioned, work will be offloaded to people with better specs (and only on cuda, which a 3070 supports), so you should be able to support a bunch of other clients by yourself. at least, thats the eventual goal

@swift violet

[tall egret]

It didn't get deleted #1223268514178142270 message

[half trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VGRxcEBnd4&feature=youtu.be

@deft cape

I tag you because I am sure you would like to see the video. I was playing with my friends and as you see in the video, I encountered one of them here but.. it wasnt my friend.

The mirage mod tricked me so hard because it used specifically two lines that was perfect on the context of the situation hahaha

So basically I am saying: great mod! Also the volume is perfect, my friends and I cant notice if its the monsters talking or not.

[deft cape]

LOOOL that context makes it even funnier

i wish i could understand it first hand 😂

what interior is that btw, dantor's hospital?

[deft cape]

oh wait jk misunderstood u, thought u were saying that in game for some reason

but yea recent updates i tried making the voices sound the exact same as the players so it's waaaaaay harder to tell the difference now

(for the voice at least, looking at the masked enemy's behaviour is a different story ofc)

[half trail]

Basically I see him turn back and say: ttmax? (we call him that)

Then he starts laughing and says "haha it would be crazy" like saying "it would be crazy if I was a zombie haha"

So I laugh saying I believe him, turn back to him... but the biggest thing was that one of the mechanical things almost hit me and the zombie says "oish" as if he saw that I was about to get hit

At that moment I was 100% sure it wasnt a zombie

Buuut.. it was

[half trail]

Its very good right now!

[deft cape]

LMFAOO

i love when coincidences like that line up

[half trail]

We all laughed pretty hard when I showed them the clip haha

[deft cape]

😂 😂 😂

[half trail]

Yes, its dantors hospital

[deft cape]

btw idk if you've seen the v2 stuff but if you haven't, take a look at #1200695291972685926 message

it'll be an upgrade from random voice clips

[half trail]

Yeah saw something about AI right? I actually had a question about it

Would it only work on english speaking people? Or could the AI know what lines to use also for other languages?

[deft cape]

it works on other languages, but not all, so you'll need to check if your language is supported: #1200695291972685926 message

just be aware that it has to show up on both of those lists (just read what my msg mentions there)

[half trail]

Nice, it supports spanish

great haha

[deft cape]

it shows up on both of those links though right

just making sure

[half trail]

Yes

[deft cape]

ah nice 🙏

[half trail]

Excited for v2 already haha

[deft cape]

:D

[uncut atlas]

does this work with maskedenemyoverhaul?

[lofty sorrel]

Yes, but there aren't many features in MEO that Mirage doesn't cover anyway, what are you using MEO for?

[uncut atlas]

I turn off nameplates

[lofty sorrel]

Turn off or turn on? Masked don't have nameplates by default

[uncut atlas]

Oh I have them off but I also remove the mask from the enemies

[lofty sorrel]

Mirage does that

[uncut atlas]

Okay cool, so basically no reason to have it lol

(maskedenemy I mean)

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah there's a couple small things but largely yeah

[uncut atlas]

Awesome, thanks @lofty sorrel 😄

[lofty sorrel]

Experimental nameplates and experimental zombie apocalypse mode are the only two things exclusive to MEO

The dev stopped modding a little while ago so probably won't be updated

[uncut atlas]

Oh one more question debby, does PlayerBracken work with mirage? Playerbracken does say skinwalkers is a dependency tho.

[lofty sorrel]

It, ideally, shouldn't have it as a dependency, it will work. The mod works with or without skinwalkers, idk why they decided to make it a dependency

[uncut atlas]

oh cool, thanks for the help 🙂

[muted current]

hey i am curious, how does this mod work?
does it just like save the sound-clips of the crew members somewhere in the mod files and shares it with everyone in the server or it just does it in a different technique?

[deft cape]

no idea what this is 😂

[deft cape]

i might do a writeup somewhere one day since quite a few people have asked about how it works

but the short answer is that each player records that player's audio to disk

and then each time it's required to be played, it gets streamed over to the other clients

[eternal bridge]

its 3fs good utuber watch him

[dark brook]

having some very weird stuff rn

i have a masked of player A that is playing clips of player B but they sound like they're coming from behind him

nvm the masked player B was somewhere up or down a floor

but masked of player A is just silent despite player A saying a loooot of stuff

[dark brook]

and now im seeing a mimic with its hands anim

if you can spot anything funky here

[solemn ridge]

Are you using MEOF or RemoveMasked?

[dark brook]

neither?

just mirage

[solemn ridge]

They never put their arms out for me, did you accidentally disable the patch for it?

[dark brook]

no

happened once in a long ass session full of masked

[dark brook]

there were actually two in one group of 4 masked

[deft cape]

only thing i see in these logs is errors with RedLocustBees which is unrelated

honestly not sure why this might be happening

don't think i can fix it either since i've never run into it a single time

anytime a voice and masked enemy's suit isn't matching though, is likely from another mod switching who it's mimicking after mirage already has it set

the thing with the hands animation happening, honestly not sure

[dark brook]

that one in the end was a bad call for me, there were actually two masked and one was doing the correct voice

but the other was silent

and rewatching the footage I think the handed masked were also unusually agile

[deft cape]

for the silent one, the player was still connected in the game right

just double checking

[dark brook]

smh zeekeers can't go one update without breaking anything

[dark brook]

yeah

[deft cape]

thats probably unrelated to zeekers 😂

[dark brook]

and we got the thingabob on

[deft cape]

hmmm

[dark brook]

the one that keeps recordings

but that was legit a one day issue

[deft cape]

theres not a single exception that comes from MaskedPlayerEnemy in that log

honestly no clue 😭

[dark brook]

honestly I think we can pin a lot of stuff related to masked on zeek

given how the masked checks if he has killed the person already when deciding whether it can kill it lol

[deft cape]

yea that's a really weird decision to make

but

the current issue sounds unrelated at least

[deft cape]

so the silent one always has the hands out animation?

but no mask texture im assuming? based on that screenshot

[dark brook]

no, the two masked with hands were present on the other day

and I think both of them were the converted masked

yk this all feels really off but can't really pin it down

[deft cape]

yeahh

if more ppl report about the same issue then i'll try investigating some more

cuz rn im honestly just even more confused after reading that 😂

on what the issue might come from

[dark brook]

yeah some random ass mega agile masked that for some reason use the hand animations

wild

[deft cape]

lmfao

like the hand animations thing is what's confusing me

it should always be applied if it's in ur config

so for some to not have it

[dark brook]

oh maybe it's masked ai rework thing mod but I have its features disabled

[deft cape]

is making me sooooooo confused

[dark brook]

hm

[deft cape]

whats ur settings on it? pretty sure @solemn ridge uses it without any issues (think she only has like 1 option enabled tho)

[dark brook]

yeah it only has one option I'm pretty sure

the one that only leaves the radar tweak active

[solemn ridge]

The only thing I have set to true in MaskedAIRevamp is Skinwalkers Compat

everything else is false

[dark brook]

that's something I should totally double check

[deft cape]

skinwalkers compat is for the walkie talkie thing

doesn't do anything for mirage

no clue sorry

[dark brook]

alr thanks for lifting the burden of having to check that

[eternal bridge]

yep it happens to me sometimes

if there's too many at once (you spawn a whole lot at the same time) one will have it's arms out

[deft cape]

is this when u were testing with e.g. dancetools/devtools?

[eternal bridge]

yeah

[deft cape]

interesting ive never had that happen to me

at least when id spawn around 20-30 masked enemies

ill see if i can try replicating it later

[dark brook]

oh I had 4 I think

weird

[eternal bridge]

its kinda neat in my opinions

its a nice little like

defect

actually..

speaking of defects https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1226911369362800660

[dark brook]

number 2 I think is implemented

[eternal bridge]

hmm

i dont think it is.. idk i might not've been paying attention

[dark brook]

I know that cause I reported it thinking it was a bug once

[deft cape]

oh u mean for mirage? technically that is a bug, i just never really got around to fixing it

[eternal bridge]

its a nice bug

turn it into a feature

[deft cape]

alright it's a feature

boom, done

[eternal bridge]

also

if you could pls

do stuff from chance for mask

or idk

u dont have to it just would

be so awesome

it would be so cool

https://tenor.com/view/it-would-be-so-awesome-it-would-be-so-cool-koopa-troopa-sm64-super-mario64-gif-25673976

[deft cape]

im open to ideas for masked enemies in the future but

focus is on v2 for now

that's already gonna take a ton of time

by itself

[eternal bridge]

aight but

dont forget https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1226911369362800660 or https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1221614014954606645

[deft cape]

you'll have to remind me after v2 is out

loooong time until i have time to work on anything else 😛

[v50] Mirage

[twilit monolith]

smh barch out here downgrading from v50 to v2 in the future 😔

[deft cape]

we going back to the beta in the future 💯

[dawn cloud]

v50 is referring to the version of lethal company, he put that there to help people know its compatible. V2 is the version of the mod. The joke was to show how it looked like mirage was going from v50 to v2, because it just says v50 in the title

they call me the explainer

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape I got this earlier after someone was grabbed and turned into a masked enemy, so there is something happening where the arms out patch isn't working sometimes

[deft cape]

ill look into it after v2 is out

disabling arms out is a really small patch that im surprised thats even happening tbh

[solemn ridge]

Btw @deft cape @twilit monolith https://clips.twitch.tv/TriumphantWimpyAirGuitarOneHand-CZhUcFg8ITA_ijJm lmfao

[deft cape]

LMFAO IT'S JUST CAMPING

NO COUNTERPLAY 😭

[twilit monolith]

I hope my updates fixed that xD

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I love that I put a mask on cus Lyra Chaos Stream got redeemed then my mimic just camped the entrance

She really took after me

XD

They're learning

I love how the other 2 walked off too, while I just stayed there waiting XD

[mighty citrus]

I used skinwalkermod before and now I have switched to mirage. It feels better. However, after I installed mirage mod, the masked‘s dead body has a collision volume. Is it because of mirage?

[lofty sorrel]

Are you playing v50?

[mighty citrus]

yes

[lofty sorrel]

It's a v50 bug, not Mirage

[mighty citrus]

Ok thanks 😮

[hoary gazelle]

@deft cape Content warning spoiler ||i saw that you said there was a voice mimicking monstern in the game, does it work the same as mirage or more like skinwalkers?||

[eternal bridge]

pin it

[deft cape]

||turns out it's only part of the game files and hasn't been released yet, the person who confirmed it for me probably just manually spawned it.

there were quite a few people asking for a skinwalkers type of mod so i decided to port mirage over and should be finished today actually, just figuring out some bugs in the meantime||

[deft cape]

make a feature request on my github issues, i dont want to clog up the pins

[fiery hazel]

mirage is spreading

bleeding into other games like the mimics it works with

[deft cape]

😳

[fiery hazel]

maybe i should say infecting

😂.

[deft cape]

||now if only CW has "masked enemies" as well 😭||

[soft hollow]

man

wtf

@spring laurel i dont know whether to feel loved or not you kept my joke changelogs

[deft cape]

did u mean to post that in #1225622177970257961 LOL

[soft hollow]

wait a second

Ur so right

@spring laurel

why doesnt your bitch ass have your own thread

[spring laurel]

I do though

[soft hollow]

I didnt source check

[torpid arch]

@oblique galleon i found the hooligan

[soft hollow]

huh

I plead the 5th

[torpid arch]

LMAOOO

is that the "i don't have to answer anything because i can and constitution" stuff?

[spring laurel]

Guilty persons way out

[deft cape]

the answer to everything

i say it even tho im not american

[smoky berry]

guys, how do I change settings of the mod? I can't find a config file in the config directory.

[fiery hazel]

you need to run the game once with the mod and then you'll find all config files

[smoky berry]

I've run it once

maybe I am blind

[fiery hazel]

then you probably installed it wrong 🤔

use Thunderstore or R2Modman it's easier than manually

[smoky berry]

I mean

I already have a bunch of mods installed

[fiery hazel]

let me see, for the manual way

[smoky berry]

if I will installed r2modman for example

will I have to reinstall all of them

?

[fiery hazel]

you can have manual mods but they will not show up in R2

do you have BarchLib too?

as an installed mod

[smoky berry]

as a mod?

its like

it should be in the core folder

[fiery hazel]

you need this mods for Mirage to even load

[smoky berry]

okay I tried installing it with r2

lemme try

[fiery hazel]

no if you are installing things manually you also need to grab the dependecies as separate mods

[smoky berry]

I did

can r2

run on non-steam

version?

I have a steam lethal company

but my friend doesnt

so I have to use pirated one too

SAJ

[clever knot]

How does pirated multiplayer even works?

[fiery hazel]

ehhh i do not think i'm even allowed to answer that question as we do not support piracy... and game is basically free

[smoky berry]

uhh

[flint heron]

read rule 8 #rules

[smoky berry]

through the spacewar on steam

[fiery hazel]

just buy him a key. on key selling sites goes as cheap as 2$

i'm not going to link said site tho for the same reasons as above

[smoky berry]

I didn't find that sadly

but thanks ig

[dark brook]

my friends told me that they just killed a mimic of a person that left the game last round

https://tenor.com/view/conductor-we-have-a-problem-cat-cute-funny-gif-17168115721186324165

and it was silent

if that tells you anything

[dark brook]

IT HAPPENED AGAIN

SAME GUY

[lofty sorrel]

It being silent makes sense, but spawning at all doesn't

[dark brook]

mfw when i wipe the whole dungeon with dont touch me but it spawns a mimic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054469893094912040/1219795235488661644/RDT_20240317_2206286612888269186543251.gif

[dark brook]

it happened once more

[stable urchin]

Ye we had 2 spawn of people who left in previous rounds

[eternal bridge]

they just joined back

[deft cape]

i think i know the issue

probably only happens with NoRepeat

[oblique galleon]

probaboy

[deft cape]

im on my phone 😭 😭

boomer typing skills on this thing

[oblique galleon]

lol

[lofty sorrel]

Demiboy alternative title

[stable urchin]

I DO use NoRepeat so that lines up for me.

[dark brook]

whats norepeat

[deft cape]

ImitateMode in the config

could you check what urs is set to as well? i just wanna confirm

if everyone's is on norepeat then the bug probably comes from that

[dark brook]

What's the default setting? Cooking rn will check in a bit

[deft cape]

wait nvm it's not from ImitateMode

i just got confused cuz it's a bit similar but

ImitateMode only affects what voice lines it picks

by default when it picks which player to mimic, it acts kinda like NoRepeat

pretty sure i know what the bug is

i'll fix it sometime this week since it's not too high prio

[stable urchin]

All good! Yeah it's not exactly game breaking or nothin. TYSM for looking into it!

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape Bug report

Modded enemies are using voices when the setting is set to false.

I've had a Locker and a Knight use voices

[stable urchin]

I've had locusts and such do it when set to false too but never thought much of it

[deft cape]

ohh what

how the fuck

did this only start happening today?

or since the latest update

cuz it's been awhile since the update was pushed so im surprised it only started now

[deft cape]

wait i know why this happens actually

ah shit ill explain in a sec im doing something rn

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I also heard Debby's voice in the wall of the ship once when she was dead cus I think something was using her voice but it wasn't attached to the enemy using it

[viral obsidian]

She's in your walls

[deft cape]

so basically for mirage it checks the enemy based on the c# clasd type rather than the name of the game object

and since knights for example also use the coilhead class (at least im pretty sure), mirage thinks it's a coilhead

[deft cape]

not sure why a locust would play voices though, it worked fine for me last i tested it

[deft cape]

so for this it's only really a problem for enemies that extend from existing enemies

tbh dont really plan on fixing this till v2

[dark brook]

might be something to do with butlers?

[deft cape]

doubt it

modded enemies can count as being enabled just because they share the same class as vanilla enemies

butlers should have their own class

so it shouldn't be mixing together

[dark brook]

oh I just thought that cause their bees have a bug in v50 rn that like uses some wrong thing or something that makes them open doors as fast as butlers and be able to die to traps

well alr

[weary prawn]

Hi. I have a bug that when a skinwalker appears on the map after the ship has landed, our voices can be heard around ship from one place but there is no skinwalker. Is this a known bug or do I have to reinstall everything? V49 newest mod version

[viral obsidian]

I believe that got reported earlier today

Check a bit higher on this threaf

[deft cape]

oh maybe then idk, if it is then i guess it's a v50 only bug

[deft cape]

really? i dont remember a report like that 🤔

[deft cape]

maybe i remember wrong but im not aware of this issue, my guess is there's some sort of mod conflict since this shouldnt happen with mirage on its own

[viral obsidian]

I thought this was the same issue as: #1200695291972685926 message

[solemn ridge]

This wouldn't explain why a Locker was talking

XD

[deft cape]

oh that

damn i skimmed through the message and dont even remember reading that lmao

idk what the bug is with that

i dont remember that being an issue in the past though

[solemn ridge]

I don't either cus it never happened again

But it was funny

[deft cape]

it could be extending a vanilla class too

you'd have to check the code to make sure

skibidi toilet for example extends from jester

[flint heron]

the butler bees have the enemy type of butler, locusts are unrelated to that issue

[broken mango]

is modded enemy choice support yet btw?

just curious as to disable what speaks

[deft cape]

not till v2 (or at least if i release the rewrite before v2)

other than fixing the current issue of newly spawned enemies picking a player that already dc'd, i probably won't be touching v1 much

[broken mango]

ah k

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape so you may wanna check if Mirage still works with V50

EnemyAI got changed

[deft cape]

i checked it long time ago

it's compatible

[solemn ridge]

With the new update that came out a few hours ago?

[deft cape]

wait u mean a change from the latest beta that wasn't there previously?

oh

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

[deft cape]

interesting

ill check tmrw

thanks for the heads up

[solemn ridge]

a QOL change came out in the latest beta that's broken a lot of enemy mods lol

[deft cape]

i dont think anything should break since mirage doesnt modify enemy ais but

i might as well check just in case

[solemn ridge]

Ye

[toxic pier]

mirage still seems to work on my end w the new version

no arms out or mask and they still speak

[deft cape]

ah nice good to know, thanks for the confirmation

[torpid arch]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalCompanyDecompiled/pull/1/commits/67d8b4967631c810ccb73df12ed5252e202f8449#diff-eb5774ad3c008099b60e74b431e3cef681ca42ecddc89dc175f2dce3c46f2be6

today's beta

[viral obsidian]

Not supposed to be publishing full decomped code are you? Link doesn't work for me anyway so it may be restricted

Someone posted this diff in dev general though if you can't see it in the link above #dev-general message

[vast canyon]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalCompanyDecompiled/pull/1/files/1ec131d80540980126cc5f04c5d2a943b8f66ed8..67d8b4967631c810ccb73df12ed5252e202f8449#diff-5afe5584ec06ae23c372336e7c5f6a5df9276230dd9bb32aeba77423fc9f4c81R1353
Isn't that make masked enemy to be broken when it outside?

Like it will target the wrong navmesh points

MaskedEnemy

public override void SetEnemyOutside(bool outside = false)
    {
        base.SetEnemyOutside(false);
        this.mainEntrancePosition = RoundManager.FindMainEntrancePosition(true, this.isOutside);
        if (this.searchForPlayers.inProgress)
        {
            base.StopSearch(this.searchForPlayers, true);
        }
    }

EnemyAI

public virtual void SetEnemyOutside(bool outside = false)
    {
        this.isOutside = outside;
        if (outside)
        {
            this.allAINodes = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("OutsideAINode");
            return;
        }
        this.allAINodes = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("AINode");
    }

[torpid arch]

oh, it overrides that function

that could be the reason

[vast canyon]

Looks like it is

Just stuck and doesn't move

and with fix it now wanders outside

|| huh, is it masked can do that? ||

[soft hollow]

@deft cape

Sire

Would you be free later today to play some lethal company

[flint heron]

why does he do base.SetEnemyOutside(false) 🤣

[vast canyon]

idk 😆

[flint heron]

it seems to still work weirdly

i spawned masked's inside using the debug menu and they show as isOutside false but they can still run around n stuff fine whilst outside

[vast canyon]

also looks like he fixed masked collider when it's dead

[vast canyon]

for me it was only able to run if he saw me (so targets to the player), but in default wander state it just stuck

[flint heron]

even though they have the AI nodes of inside... wtf

ah

ah yeah i see what you mean the movement is very buggy

[dense nimbus]

been awhile since i used this mod so correct me if this is a thing now, but in the config u can choose what monsters can mimic voices including modded ones but you cant select which ones specifically and can only have them all on or all off, are there any like plans to be able to be able to pick more specifically which ones?

[lilac saffron]

In v2

[dense nimbus]

oh okie

[broken mango]

wait what's wrong with the Masked AI?

[deft cape]

tyty, looks like i'm safe from the changes, i only read isOutside rather than setting it

[deft cape]

yeah it's restricted to ppl mrov invited to the repo so it's all good

[deft cape]

naw sorry, also dont really feel like playing for a bit 😅

[soft hollow]

its alright og

[eternal bridge]

"yooo!!! dude look what i found"

[tall oar]

Where can I suggest or talk about Mirage for Content Warning?

[deft cape]

there's a content warning modding discord, but feel free to ask me here as well

[deft cape]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-stone-mask-gif-21543742

[tall oar]

Alright thanks. So far the mod is funny and spooky but in CW, it only seems to play lines of the host player and not everyone.

[deft cape]

ah still? i thought i fixed that

fuck....

that's likely not gonna be fixed then, until changes in mycelium networking is made

cuz it has to do with the networking rn

[tall oar]

ok thanks. hope they fix it

[dark brook]

oh? I thought that was a 1st April bit?

actually insane

[deft cape]

u mean the content warning game? i've heard they always release a new game every april 1st

but they still support the game if it does well, which content warning is one

[dark brook]

no I thought you were joking about mirage in cw

[deft cape]

ohhhh nah LOL

well at first i wasnt even gonna do it

but there were quite a few ppl asking for a voice mimicking mod so i might as well just port it

[tall oar]

We aren't sure what changed but it started picking random players when I hosted the lobby in CW

[deft cape]

so it started working?

im pretty sure the issue does lie with the networking library for now

[tall oar]

yah but they say it sounds glitchy to them. eh hopefully the issues get worked out over time

[deft cape]

could you ask them what they mean by it sounding glitchy? like is it choppy?

[tall oar]

they say yes, choppy sounds like the issue

[deft cape]

huh thats interesting, it was fine when i tested it

i'll try and investigate it after the networking library's issue is fixed

[lofty sorrel]

v50 out, let the games begin

[broken mango]

IT IS OUT

[hoary gazelle]

Jojo

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape found a bug with Mirage I think, when someone resurrected as a mimic a dead dog got back up for a second

[round swan]

Looks like there's a vanilla bug where masked that spawn inside the facility and go outside can't actually harm players

for a moment I thought it was MEOF, but testing with just dance tools installed, it still happens

[solemn ridge]

So he reintroduced the v47 bug lol nice

Report it to Zeekerss if you can

[eternal bridge]

]

[muted current]

hey, if i gave my custom voice clips into the mirage folder would it play them normally?

[hoary gazelle]

Personally that doesnt seem like it would work but youd probably get a better answer from qbarch himself when he cam answer

Because im pretty sure it wipes the folder after each round

So if it did work it would only be for one round

But im not an expert, im talking out my pisshole 😼😼

[muted current]

welp, it didn't wipe out the files from the folder so i dunno, something didn't works?
because there still are the sound files from like a week ago

[fathom dust]

Hey there, in the FAQ on the modpage it says that I probably don't want to use MaskedEnemyOverhaul(Fork). Does Mirage by itself add a fake nametag over the player and change the suit according to the player they're mimicking? Those are the only reasons I'd want to use MEOF.

[broken mango]

There's no name tag but the suit matches who they're mimicing

[fathom dust]

Gotcha, thanks

[deft cape]

yuhhhh part 1 jojo 😳

[deft cape]

dayumm about time

[deft cape]

is this related to the vanilla bug that coppertiel mentioned? i'll take a look at this sometime when i can

[deft cape]

as long as it's a .wav it should work, but keep in mind that if the audio is longer than the specified delays, it'll stop your previous audio when it fetches for a new voice clip.
if you want to simply just make everyone hear custom sounds for masked enemies, i'd recommend using bongo's soundapi instead, since it's more efficient to just play the voice clip locally instead of streaming it over a network

as for the rounds thing, that's a setting (which is now disabled by default), and just deletes the audio when you close the game

if it's never deleted then it's likely whoever made the modpack used the setting that makes it never delete it

[deft cape]

i only mention people probably dont need MEO/MEOF because there's a lot of ppl who dont seem to know mirage already picks player's suits, supports cosmetics, supports spawns, etc. for MEO/MEOF only features like the name tags, you'd definitely still want MEOF

[fathom dust]

Got it, thank you.

[muted current]

thanks!

[broken mango]

saw a mask but he didn't mimic anyone or say anything-

but it might be due to a player leaving

[eternal bridge]

he was just shy bruh

[deft cape]

that is one demonic grandma

[deft cape]

if the player left then that's 100% why it's not mimicking it

[broken mango]

yea

lol

[soft hollow]

assuming everything works on v50 Mr. @deft cape

[deft cape]

it did last i tested a v50 beta but

lunxara reported something that might be an issue with mirage

i'll have to see later

[solemn ridge]

It is, I've had the issue with the dead dog doing a random attack happen consistently everytime someone revives as a mimic lol

[deft cape]

not sure if that's a mirage bug then

cuz it sounds like zeekers did something to dog's code

[sturdy python]

Did add the thing where they shiver at loud booms or w/e

[solemn ridge]

Why's it only happen when someone revives though?

[dusky marten]

how do you delete the saved voice logs

[deft cape]

if it is then zeekers added it, i havent done anything with dogs

[deft cape]

who knows

[deft cape]

there's a folder called Mirage in your lethal company directory if you have it set to never delete

otherwise it auto deletes when u close the game

[vast canyon]

Zeekerss didn't fixed masked enemy

waiting v51 soon xd

[sturdy python]

Yeah he added "Dogs now cower on the floor when they hear a loud blast" (via 1a3's thing)

[solemn ridge]

Btw @twilit monolith this seems like a perfect thing to have fixed in AIFix for situations where Zeekerss breaks it

[twilit monolith]

Ah, I'm guessing it doesn't fix itself with SLAI already?

[steel glade]

i suppose this mod won't allow for mimics to emote on sight right?

[nova star]

I believe that's TooManyEmotes that does that

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape When is support for the tulip snake to use voices coming?

Same with Old Birds XD

[dawn cloud]

Ayo Sus

[solemn ridge]

Lol

[steel glade]

is this setting in what mod?

[dark brook]

toomanyemotes

[eternal bridge]

only reason i have this mod is to make the masked stop and stare for like 26 seconds

[steel glade]

guys do you know if r2modman will automatically update mods?

[clever knot]

you'll need to press update on the yellow pop up that will appear

[eternal bridge]

sorry

[steel glade]

? what's the issue with asking questions?

[eternal bridge]

no its just r2modman

[steel glade]

i mean i mostly do it manualy, and i hate overwolf

so i considered it as an option, that's why i was asking

[deft cape]

oh is that a new enemy in v50

whats all the new v50 enemy names? ill add them soon

[eternal bridge]

butler tulip snake old bird and spike trap

butler and old bird already mimic voices it seems

[spring laurel]

Spike trap lmao

[deft cape]

yeah r2 makes it simple, and has no ads so r2modman is great imo

[solemn ridge]

RadMech which is Old Bird, Butler, and Tulip Snake

[deft cape]

spike trap with voices 🤔

[eternal bridge]

i call them johns

[hoary gazelle]

Silly

[eternal bridge]

april fools update: hazards mimic voices

[deft cape]

😂

[hoary gazelle]

13 days late pal

Wait till next year

[spring laurel]

On second thought this would be pretty good too, make it work exclusively on the "||only activate when directly under||" traps

[deft cape]

if i add support for it, it'd still be the typical "activate on a random interval" feature for now

[eternal bridge]

standing under spike trap "what's that creaking noise" "yoooo wassup" dies

[deft cape]

dont really want to spend too much time on v1 rn

[hoary gazelle]

Bro be smoking and steaming v2

[dark brook]

internal ones? FlowerSnake RadMech and i would guess butler? also butler drops mask hornets......

[hoary gazelle]

Full with seasoning and garnish

[viral obsidian]

Why does everyone forget the butlerbees 😔

[eternal bridge]

because they freakin' SUCK!!

[viral obsidian]

I cannot confirm nor deny since I haven't seen them yet

[carmine garden]

Yall need to see this. The mod worked a little too well 🤣

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/27dU04z-2drdVr/d1337hfbKLGr?invite=cr-MSxMM1QsMTYxMjM4NTExLA

[granite musk]

is mirage doing good so far on v50

[broken mango]

Is there issues with using the mod symbiosis with Mirage?

[hoary gazelle]

No

[misty night]

Hello ! I've a problem with Mirage, i don't know why but everything's working but it's like if voices were not registered and played by ennemies (all included)
The console tells: [Warning: Unity Log] Audio source failed to initialize audio spatializer. An audio spatializer is specified in the audio project settings, but the associated plugin was not found or initialized properly. Please make sure that the selected spatializer is compatible with the target.

Do someone know this bug?

[deft cape]

you can ignore that, that warning is there in the vanilla game

it just happens more often with mirage installed because i clone the player voice audio sources in order for it to sound the same

and all of them has that warning cuz im pretty sure it's just not setup properly for the game itself

[glossy topaz]

I have a small question, and IDK, but is this mod compatible with the VRM mod?

[deft cape]

you mean whether or not masked enemies will use the vrm cosmetics?

cosmetics supporting masked enemies is up to themselves for adding support, so vrm supports it by itself, it'll work with mirage as well

[glossy topaz]

No the LethalVRM model mod.

[deft cape]

well if you're talking about whether voices will still be mimicked then yes

[stable urchin]

It works with Lethal VRM but a LVRM specific side effect we noticed is that if the person with the VRM model gets a Masked mimic made of them, even if they have a great computer, they might lag badly. If multiple spawn, it can be literally unplayable. Haven't tried since v50 but one of my friends with a god tier gaming PC had his game essentially freeze because like 3-4 masks of him spawned in Secret Labs. Lol

I haven't seen if it's updated since v50 but at the time it happened, the mod hadn't been updated in literal months and we removed it. It might also be because some of us didn't have it installed because the models were larger than default and immersion breaking but just something to keep in mind that it MAAAY get laggy

[misty night]

Thanks for your answers, i've tried it again and it worked ! 😄

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdCrispyBeanHoneyBadger-Z6WESRcnwxC6Rc7e @deft cape

[maiden peak]

the v50 compatibility tracker says mirage "breaks enemy spawning both inside and out" and isn't compatible

can anyone confirm? if that's not an issue i'll update it

[lofty sorrel]

Not an issue with Mirage

Never was, idk why that's there

[sturdy python]

Probably someone with a diff mod breaking mob spawns mistaking it for Mirage

[deft cape]

lmfao

[deft cape]

yea like the others mentioned, it's not an issue from mirage. 100% they had another mod that caused it and mistaked it for mirage

[maiden tusk]

was definitely lethallib before it was updated

[solemn ridge]

Nah there's some enemy mods that do it

Like Scopophobia

[maiden tusk]

interesting, didn't know that

[carmine lichen]

It's still the same issue related to LethalLib. Dependents of LL, like Scopophobia, need to update for the fix inside of LethalLib to work correctly

[upbeat compass]

what? lethallib has updated, mods depending on it don't need to

[carmine lichen]

That's correct. Except if a mod used to use the powerLevel through LL. That was changed from an int into a float.

In which case not updating, and still trying to use that field as if it was an int kills LL, and causes the same issue.

The issues in 'some enemy mods' are a remnant from the fixed issue in LL

[maiden peak]

Ty for the responses, I've updated the sheet

[glossy topaz]

I have had this happened to me multiple tiimes but they are completely invisible, but I haven't tried mirage with friends and using VRM.

[gusty oasis]

Sorry to bother u, but does LEC patch completely work? If it causes bugs, what are they?

[deft cape]

LEC is lethal expansion right? better to ask the author that

[gusty oasis]

lol my b I misread the author on this: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/qwcan/LethalExpansionCorePatch/

Thought it was ur name

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah qwcan is quite similar to qwcant qwbarch

[deft cape]

lmao that name does almost look the same

[hoary gazelle]

The QW clan

[torpid arch]

i'll name myself qwbeach

for funsies

[dark brook]

#official-announcements message

[deft cape]

💀

[deft cape]

is this for the "invisible pillar hitbox" thing

[sturdy python]

their outside AI broke when exiting

[lofty sorrel]

That was fixed on release afaik

[sturdy python]

would stand still until it aggro'd on someone since it was trying to go to interior nodes instead of outdoor ones

[deft cape]

ah icic

ill push an update tonight to add a config for the new enemies

[torpid arch]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[deft cape]

hi qwbeach 😳

[torpid arch]

that's better

[sturdy python]

what the

[torpid pecan]

qwnation

[deft cape]

hmm im taking a look at this rn and im not too sure why that's happening actually

if a player left the previous round, unless the player still exists in the game's list of players, it shouldn't be possible to fetch it

there was a different issue of potentially going out of bounds when a player dcs and i try to fetch a player, which should be fixed now

but that's not the reason a disconnected player would get copied so idk, that part will still be unfixed for now

[deft cape]

what the heck is this v50 log spam lmao

gonna push an update soon

[deft cape]

Mirage v1.4.0 is released:

• Added a config entry for the new enemies (butler, butler bees, flower snake, old bird).
• Removed debug logs that I previously left in by accident in v1.3.2.
• Fixed a bug that caused modded enemies that extends from a vanilla enemy type to share its config entry.
• Fixed a bug that potentially caused an out-of-bounds error if a player dc'd when an enemy tries to mimic a player.

@solemn ridge try seeing if this update fixes the issue with the mansion statue thingies mimicking voices with coilheads enabled

[solemn ridge]

Just don't pull a mrov with this update and have everything go brrrrr

XD

[shut cobalt]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[deft cape]

@torpid arch getting hit with the strays even over here 🤣

dw new mirage feature will make time go extra fast

[deft cape]

idk what the butler and flower snake are even like yet, haven't watched any vids on it yet just cuz i want a more authentic 1st experience on v50

i know what the butler does just from what others have said, didnt even know the flower snake exists till now when i was looking at the decompiled code lmao

[sturdy python]

tulip snake was like beta 4 addition lol

[deft cape]

ah interesting i thought everything was already released on the first beta

im just waiting for LLL to update b4 i even try v50

[sturdy python]

yeah spike traps and tulip snakes were added after

[deft cape]

speaking of which, i didnt add voice support for spike traps since they're not counted as an enemy (at least im pretty sure it doesnt extend from EnemyAI)

[sturdy python]

they're a hazard like mines and turrets

[deft cape]

not that it'd make much sense anyways, having spikes talk would just give it away

ah

[solemn ridge]

You can't deny how funny it was that he broke it the way he did

XD

[deft cape]

that clock sure was ticking fast lmfao

[lofty sorrel]

I doubt you know seeing as you haven't played the update yet, but without big spoilers, the Old Birds are dormant for the first half of the day and then they wake up, would there be a way to make it so they only mimic while they're awake?

[viral obsidian]

Do you know if they mimic while dormant? Since they activate when if there is a dormant placeholder when they're actually spawned with the spawning logic

[dark brook]

they do have a scan node...

[sturdy python]

They’re probably too loud to even hear the mimicked voice when activated

[viral obsidian]

True, which is why I'm asking. Not too sure myself but would be interested to know

[dark brook]

ill tell you in a couple mins

dormant and silent so far

cool

what the fuck

ah its whoopie cushion

[viral obsidian]

Lmao

[dark brook]

yeah im pretty sure they are silent when dormant

im gonna double check but it seems like it

[viral obsidian]

Good to know 👍

[dark brook]

lol artifice spawned a dog thats just stuck

yeah 99% sure they're silent

yup one woke up and started mimicking me eating chips

[soft hollow]

Barch

Holy fuckin hell

Perfect god damn swap

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/27CK9MKl4V_ojk

Literally perfect transformation

[lofty sorrel]

Drop everything on the floor

[autumn glen]

mirage clips are the funniest shit ever

[soft hollow]

The coverup of my death was perfect

I dropped the egg

Exploded

Died

Mask on the floor hooked onto my body

And got up

In less than a second

[lofty sorrel]

Btw @deft cape is there any way to have mute local settings and recording deletion settings be persistent like through the LocalLow folder or something? I prefer to always hear myself and ignore deletions but sometimes I update a profile and forget to change my settings and end up getting the files deleted anyway :(

[deft cape]

oh right i forgot about that. actually do know about old birds since i played with lunxara on v50 beta once, and ended up running into only old birds

grats on becoming mod btw, no more trial mod 😳

[deft cape]

this can happen if the voice clip is too long. was it bugged?

[deft cape]

i was actually thinking about that. all settings that are personal preference should ideally not be synced. (which although it's not synced, ppl sync it via profile codes).
not sure how to approach this for now though, since i still need it to be accessible.
maybe i could use one of those config gui mods to make an in game setting to save in the profile folder like u mentioned could be a solution

[deft cape]

ah nice so it works without me having to explicitly do it eh

[deft cape]

LMAOO u guys play with spawn on player death eh

oh wait jk u said it hooked onto u or something

[lofty sorrel]

There's LethalSettings

Idk what others there are

I hate the ui for it tho

The ui for InputUtils is great but I don't think it has functionality outside of keybinds

[deft cape]

oh whats wrong with it? that looks like one of the good ones to me

[lofty sorrel]

Eh just ugly to me, I'm sure it works fine

[gaunt talon]

is it possible to only make certain mobs mimic voice?

[broken mango]

yes it's in the config-

I know you would be able to control what specfic modded enemy can mimic in the future but for now I leave it disabled-

[gaunt talon]

ah okay i cant find the config

[broken mango]

did you start the game and let it make one?

[gaunt talon]

oh nvm its there now xp

[dark brook]

ok I forgor to answer

I didnt notice anything, but I was solo testing and the majority of clips were me eating chips

[deft cape]

ah probably a non issue then, that error will likely not be a thing in v2 anyways

[dark brook]

bet

also the whole old bird thing is pretty cool lol

[deft cape]

i remember ppl saying the map doesnt reward much sadly

like it's a troll map or something

[dark brook]

which one? embrion?

yeah embrion just sucks no matter how you look at it

[deft cape]

thtas the only place old birds spawn right

[dark brook]

nonono

they have a couple of moons

off the top of my head I can name at least 2

adamance and artifice

They're really cool as long as you don't engage them, they kill literally everything

And if you're running #1208964227835109407 (and if you aren't then idk what you're doing) then redwood will also hunt old birds

[ocean terrace]

I had an old bird spawn on titan last night

[dark brook]

Moon Base Spawn Chance Max Spawn*
5-Embrion 86.96% 20
68-Artifice 45.00% 4
7-Dine 6.88% 2
8-Titan 5.69% 2
21-Offense 2.37% 2
41-Experimentation 2.22% 2
20-Adamance 2.11% 4

[ocean terrace]

Embrion is the map you take your friends to if you want them to scream in terror

[deft cape]

OHHHHHHH

[deft cape]

lmao im def gonna do that once

[dark brook]

Embrion is the helldivers automaton front experience

With no actual loot

[ocean terrace]

Yeah 150 credits just to die

[deft cape]

gives ppl some clips at least 🤣

[dark brook]

it has 11-15 scrap

It's a lore piece

And that's pretty much it..

[clever knot]

Someone should make a mod that buffs it

so it's actually viable to go there

I'd go there more often

[deft cape]

yea i wish it'd be at least viable