Mirage

[solemn ridge]

It's so rare for AC to actually conflict with something

So I used to get his responses but in this situation he couldn't have blew things more out of proportion

[dark brook]

i only agreed cause it was when it actually broke compat with lecore after his update

yeah true

[solemn ridge]

Same but it just tilts me

[lofty sorrel]

I get it, I just repeat to myself "separate the art from the artist separate the art from the artist separate the art from the artist"

And it doesn't work but

I tried lmao

[lofty sorrel]

Looking through TakeThatMaskOff sourcecode, something here

            {
                DeadBodyInfo deadBody = __instance.mimickingPlayer.deadBody;
                ((Component)deadBody).gameObject.SetActive(true);
                ((Component)__instance).gameObject.SetActive(false);
                deadBody.SetBodyPartsKinematic(false);
                deadBody.SetRagdollPositionSafely(((Component)__instance).transform.position, false);
                deadBody.deactivated = false;
                ((Component)((Component)deadBody).transform.Find("spine.001/spine.002/spine.003/spine.004/HeadMask")).gameObject.SetActive(false);
            }```

is not firing for the player that is killed, but is firing for everybody else. So either some of the if conditions are different depending on which player is firing them (I thought the MaskedPlayerEnemy instance would be run serverside?), or the player that is killed is somehow unable to call some of the resulting functions

[solemn ridge]

That would make sense for masked enemies having a dead body randomly resurrect somewhere else

Huh

[deft cape]

ill take another look when i get home later

[remote iris]

my friend calls you mr mirage

[lofty sorrel]

Honestly, great super hero(villain?) name

[timber notch]

Yeah really though

I wonder if it already is one

I’m getting stuff from a youtuber and then a bunch of tires lmao

Okay so

There’s a Mirage in both DC and Marvel

Wait three total

The only male one is this guy

[lofty sorrel]

There's also

https://tenor.com/view/fist-bump-nice-one-good-job-way-to-go-boom-gif-15173551

[timber notch]

Sonic the Hedgehog?

[timber notch]

The first Mirage was a man named Mike (also referred to as "Kerry Austin") and appeared in Detective Comics #511 (February 1982). He uses a gem that causes people to see elaborate illusions. He commits crimes while his victims are occupied fighting against these illusions. This crime wave brings him to the attention of Batman. Batman faces Mirage several times before coming up with a strategy to beat him. During the encounter, Mirage's gem is destroyed. Batman is able to defeat him and send him to jail.

Mirage was revealed to have been a graduate of the Academy of Crime.

While in jail, Mirage manages to create contact lenses from fragments of his jewel. He proceeds to create the illusion of himself in jail and escapes to the circus he once worked for. Starting another crime wave, Batman is once again alerted to his actions. This time, Batman easily beats him and sends him back to prison. Mirage also fought Manhunter once using his illusions so successfully, he nearly killed the bounty hunter.

Following the Infinite Crisis, Mirage is freed from prison again. He is killed in 52 #25 (2006) by Bruno Mannheim. Mannheim bashes Mirage's head into the "Crime Bible" and sends his body to the kitchen to be prepared for Mannheim to eat, revealing Mannheim is a cannibal.

Okay for a second I thought Manhunter meant Martian Manhunter

And I was like dang in one paragraph bro went from nearly killing Martian Manhunter to getting his head bashed by a “crime bible” and eaten

[lofty sorrel]

I just want to know what's written in the Crime Bible

[timber notch]

Right?!

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/c/cb/Crime_Bible.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20130708095343

It's similar to the regular Christian Bible in form and function, but differs immensely in content and aim in mass-manipulation. It features Cain as its central character, known as "The First", as in the first person to have committed

The Crime Bible is a religious text used as the central reading for the Religion of Crime, also known as the "Dark Faith".

The book deals with the exploits of Cain and his works of evil in the world, in association with Lilith. The copy of the Bible seen most often in the DCU allegedly has a cover of stone, made from the physical rock used to kill Abel.

Okay this is actually a pretty neat concept

[lofty sorrel]

Ain't much more I can speak on my thoughts about this without getting into needlessly controversial topics, so I'm just gonna say DC is wild

[timber notch]

tbf comics are pretty wild in general

[timber notch]

btw I dm’d you if you want to continue the discussion there lol

[deft cape]

i know him as nerd emoji LOOL

[remote iris]

lol

[amber swallow]

🤓

[remote iris]

BRO CHILL

[lament mica]

🤓

[amber swallow]

you dare copy me

[solemn ridge]

🤓

((For the memes lmao I never use this emoji XD))

[amber swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sad-cry-gif-24016801

[solemn ridge]

I will say I've never had an issue with enemies despawning but I added EnemyFix to my mod pack since you suggest having it as a failsafe just incase it ever does happen

[deft cape]

yeah it was a mod conflict so not everyone had it

still no clue which mod caused it though

but the conflict wouldnt come from mirage anymore anyways

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

Still good to have it though lol, cus you never know when a mod might cause havoc

[deft cape]

yep thats why i put it on my recommend mods list now

just better to have it

[vast tapir]

I'm sorry if its not this mod, but I'm having issues with masked getting stuck in their vomiting animation permanently

Just trying to narrow down the issue to which mod

[lofty sorrel]

DO you have MaskedEnemyOverhaul or MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork?

[vast tapir]

fork

[lofty sorrel]

Did you tick the compatibility mode in the config for MEOF?

[remote iris]

like this?

https://youtu.be/w43cYyZE9gw?t=117

it has to be one of the ones in the description idk

[remote iris]

WAIT

[vast tapir]

Yeah pretty much

[vast tapir]

I'll tick it on, I had just assumed that handled something else in Mirage

[timber notch]

Oh lord

[vast tapir]

Masked also run underneath the ship and don't seem to have the pathfinding to reach the interior

[lofty sorrel]

On what moons?

[vast tapir]

So far Egypt

[solemn ridge]

StarlancerAIFix should help with custom moons

[lofty sorrel]

If they're struggling to pathfind inside into the ship on vanilla moons it might be an issue to bring up here, but pathfinding onto ships on modded moons is probably a them issue

[timber notch]

^

[vast tapir]

I'll test with the setting ticked on, and hopefully better masked spawn on some vanilla moons

[timber notch]

Yeah Mirage shouldn’t have an impact on Masked pathfinding

[vast tapir]

I had assumed so but just felt like mentioning since I always seem to find the masked enemy bugs haha

[timber notch]

Oh yeah it’s always a good idea to check

[vast tapir]

Vomiting issue persists but can only confirm that happens on Egypt as thats the only map I can reliably find masked, but I can't see the map being the cause of the animation lock?

I'll send this issue to troubleshoot to not spam this channel

[lofty sorrel]

Do you know how to find a log?

[deft cape]

mirage doesnt affect pathfinding

that bug is a mod conflict for sure but idk which mod it is

@vast tapir could you post your logs just so i can take a look later

[twilit monolith]

So how goes the bugfixing?

[lofty sorrel]

As far as I can tell Mirage has no major bugs atm

[twilit monolith]

The solution is usually Off Mesh Links for stuff like this

[twilit monolith]

Oh nice! Last time I checked in there was some weirdness going on, but I've been busy and haven't been paying attention lately 🤭

[lofty sorrel]

There was the major bug of Masked spawning with no AI which was solved accidentally while solving a bug that caused Masked to not deactivate properly, and then there was a bug that would register the Masked as another version of the player to the radar/tp if it spawned naturally and that was fixed

[twilit monolith]

Noice

I love accidentally solving a bug

[lofty sorrel]

And thank god, cause it was the bug nobody could recreate in isolation, it only seemed to occur in social games

I have a feeling it only occurred after a few rounds, cause that seemed to br the consensus on when it happened to groups, but it's gone now anyways

Only issues being discussed rn are either incompatibilities or related only in speculation

And a couple minor things like weird voice stuff maybe, I don't really care for those tho cause they're theoretically very easy to replicate

[deft cape]

wait theres some voice bugs?

[deft cape]

yep more or less stable rn like debbie mentioned thankfully 😅

[lofty sorrel]

Not bugs just weirdness, I'm also not saying this as fact I just don't remember when voice related issues are brought up cause they just pass right through my brain, there could well be nothing wrong

[twilit monolith]

let's gooooo :3

[warm hearth]

I'm getting an error about not being able to load the FSharpPlus file/assembly when trying to use this mod. Has anyone come across this?

[lofty sorrel]

Either more detail or a log is needed for that I'd think

[twilit monolith]

I knew F# would rear its head at some point

[warm hearth]

[Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [qwbarch.Mirage 1.0.16]
[Error  : Unity Log] Couldn't extract exception string from exception of type FileNotFoundException (another exception of class 'FileNotFoundException' was thrown while processing the stack trace)
[Error  : Unity Log] 
Stack trace:

[Error  : Unity Log] FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'FSharpPlus, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies.
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start()
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputSystem:.cctor()

I think thats everything

[lofty sorrel]

What other mods do you have, what happens ingame, do you have Mirage's dependencies, have you changed the files at all

[warm hearth]

Ahh i see the manifest.json with the dependecies there. I haven't actually used one vefore, I usually just manually put the dll in the plugins folder. I'm guessing the client automatically does it and I need to do find those and add them manually if i'm doing this manually, is that right?

[lofty sorrel]

Oh yeah if you're installing manually you'd need to install the dependencies manually as well

[warm hearth]

Makes sense, thanks for the help guys!!!

[deft cape]

ah yeah if theres more reports about it ill look into it

[solemn ridge]

So I think it's definitely possible of all the mods I had, Better Lobbies was the most likely to cause the issue of being unable to back out of lobbies it has 11 lines of code regarding GameNetworkManager Disconnect

Eeesh

Almost any other mod that touches it including yours has 1 entry

Lol

I'm not saying Better Lobbies on it's own would do it ofc, but maybe it causes conflicts at times with other things

[deft cape]

thats weird, i use betterlobbies and have never had an issue with it

[solemn ridge]

Weird

Could be another mod going weird then

[deft cape]

probably

[solemn ridge]

Idk what though

[deft cape]

also fyi mirage doesnt have a patch for gamenetworkmanager disconnect, or whatever that is

[solemn ridge]

Ah

[deft cape]

more likely case is theres something that conflicts with betterlobbies like you mentioned

[solemn ridge]

This is so annoying tbh

Probs

[deft cape]

lethal modding in a nutshell

[solemn ridge]

Since it patches so much about that feature

[deft cape]

anything causes everything else to shit the bed

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I got rid of AccurateStaminaDisplay cus it touches Gamenetworkmanager and went back to EladsHud

Why does a hud edit need to touch that

Elads doesn't....

Lol

[deft cape]

@trim anchor u got any ideas on what could be conflicting with betterlobbies in lunxara's case?

[errant cypress]

There is another one?

[solemn ridge]

I mean my mod list is pretty big I've been slowly going through and nuking shit

[deft cape]

that is pretty interesting that a hud mod would touch that 🤔

[solemn ridge]

ToggleMute touches it too

[deft cape]

i think they were talking about MEO vs MaskedAIRevamp

[solemn ridge]

Tf

[errant cypress]

ah

[deft cape]

i get infinite errors with toggle mute

any time i run any modpack with it

[solemn ridge]

It recently got patched for that

but I'll remove it

Got an alternative you know that works?

[deft cape]

nope sorry 😭

[solemn ridge]

@torpid arch think you could make a replacement for ToggleMute?

[deft cape]

maybe that's something AC could add since it's kinda core

[solemn ridge]

Nah I trust in mrov

His mods are so good

I don't think it's a feature that needs integrated into another mod

Here lemme just list my current pack

Let me know if any mods have gave issues

[torpid arch]

you're torturing me 🥹

but to be frank

togglemute has never worked for me (somehow)

i'll see what i can do

[solemn ridge]

Thank you 🙏

[timber notch]

I use AccurateStaminaDisplay so much the game feels weird without it

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I get that, idk why it needs to touch GameNetworkManager though when EladsHud doesn't

Odd decision

[timber notch]

What effect would that have

Outside of the fact it’s just turning something it shouldn’t

[solemn ridge]

Well it could potentially conflict with something else that touches it

and there are mods that need to touch it that are more important than a simple stamina bar tweak

[deft cape]

unless it errors it might not actually be that

[solemn ridge]

Yeah no I get that lol

Just saying it's always a risk of possibility

XD

[deft cape]

thats fair

[solemn ridge]

I had ShipLootPlus before btw but I went ahead and removed it, I use the monitor from GI more and more and I feel like I don't need it anymore

Just figure if I'm gonna fix this may as well also take out mods I feel I don't need

It's why I did away with MoreCompany too

my group rarely uses the cosmetics from MC compared to the cosmetic mods I have

[deft cape]

doesnt AC disable MC anyways? at least i think u use AC

[solemn ridge]

It does yeah

[deft cape]

ah yeah might as well remove it then

[solemn ridge]

I almost wondered if it is possible that

the recent update for ToggleMute was responsible tbh

I kept going back to that

[deft cape]

oh wait for what bug

[solemn ridge]

Being unable to back out of the lobby

lol

[deft cape]

is that consistently happening? if it's easy to reproduce you could try seeing what mod is erroring when you back out to the menu

[solemn ridge]

It only happens when I have someone else in the lobby

[deft cape]

or leave file logs on when you play so you can go back to that to debug

[solemn ridge]

Which makes it annoying to figure out

[trim anchor]

Yo got ya mod code?

[deft cape]

your best bet might be to just leave the file logger on so you can check the logs after your streaming session is over

[solemn ridge]

018ddf7a-76b0-bc88-fb9e-ca8fc4f351c3

[trim anchor]

thanks

[granite musk]

back out as in quit to main menu ?

[solemn ridge]

Yeah it does this lol https://clips.twitch.tv/AttractiveOriginalMouseKlappa-DIyoCC1VRqgHXicM

It just won't back out

XD

But never happens when I'm solo

😦

been happening since yesterday

coincidentally after ToggleMute had an update

Which made me think maybe ToggleMute

Oh well our god mrov is gonna make a replacement

Lol

@torpid arch ty 😄

[granite musk]

have u tried downgrading the version before tho ?

[torpid arch]

i did not say that 🥲

[solemn ridge]

I just removed it, I don't really need it tbh

[torpid arch]

it's planned, but it's gonna take some time 😦

[solemn ridge]

cus if I downgrade it it has an issue with throwing errors while using AC

which makes performance worse

[torpid arch]

weathertweaks rework is time-consuming

[solemn ridge]

So at that rate it's

have it break game or throw errors

lol

Lose/Lose situation

[solemn ridge]

rework? ;o the mod is already so good you're going all out XD

[granite musk]

i blame zeekers
jk love u zeek

[torpid arch]

i'm adding more mechanics and making them extendable by other mods

[torpid arch]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1210299617573601390

[granite musk]

but if u dont need togglemute why u asking mrov for replacement

[solemn ridge]

I mean I like having it obviously

But if it's gonna cause a bunch of issues I can do without for now

It's just nice to be able to tap that mute button when dogs and stuff are around

[deft cape]

this sounds great, kinda changes the pace mid way through a round

[torpid arch]

it's gonna be a nightmare to pull off nicely

[deft cape]

i was gonna say irl mute ur mic for that but then ur a streamer

[torpid arch]

but yeah, i'll do everything to make it work

[deft cape]

yeah sounds hard to overhaul something like that

[torpid arch]

for example flooded weather has it's water height based on time of day

so when it changes mid-day, it's all flooded in a second

not the ideal situation

[deft cape]

yikes sounds like u have to rewrite a bunch of vanilla things to make it work well

[torpid arch]

it is what it is

i just want to make the best version of this mod possible

we'll see how it goes

[deft cape]

yeee gl with the rework 🙏

[torpid arch]

only thing stopping me is working full-time 😅

[remote iris]

same

[amber swallow]

🤓

[bright junco]

would it be in a separate mod? like calling this one legacy maybe

[torpid arch]

I'm adding all the game hooks into the base, but mechanics utilizing that will be a separate mod

[bright junco]

alright, its just i run a pack and id like to keep the current one and if theres a big rework update with a few bugs n incompatibilities the first instinct of everyone playing is to hit the update all button and i dont wanna be telling them to downgrade haha
about 120 mods so it's very normal that theres bugs at first, and I'd be fine with that but my friends wouldn't lol

currently waiting on a diversity hotfix for example since the major update has some bugs

its a very niche me problem probably lol..

[torpid arch]

understandable

big yellow thingy telling "update now" is too hard to resist

I'll let you know about any changes

[bright junco]

ty..

be cool if thunderstore let you upload things as betas so theyre not immediately flagged as need to update unless manual

ik minecrafts curseforge (tho generally bad) has that, stable beta alpha releases

[torpid arch]

yeah, I know

[lilac saffron]

Quick question barch, is language gonna be a hard obstacle with the voice recognition?

[lofty sorrel]

With what I know about the tools available, it shouldn't be a huge obstacle. Tools exist to recognise most spoken languages, so for his code to work all he'd need to do is translate that language into a form he can use, probably English

Ofc I'm not him so I could be wrong, but I don't imagine it would be a big obstacle

Would probably just come after the bulk of it is already done

[bright junco]

hm?

voice recognition where

[lilac saffron]

Check pinned message

[bright junco]

ooh nice

[deft cape]

yep debby is right

ill eventually have a list of what languages will be supported

(although obviously im only testing english)

[dark brook]

so i was recommended getting the most lethal company and i see that it has both take that mask off and mirage

aren't they conflicting?

[deft cape]

i mentioned about it in TMLC but someone there said they dont have issues with it together

[remote iris]

barch i am shaking bro

so ive played a game for 6 hours and 4 HOURS were on one boss

and you cant pause 😭

[deft cape]

this some multiplayer game? i thought you were talking about elden ring for a sec

[dark brook]

lc modding is legit gonna make me go insane

you make a pack thoroughly test it, play with people, try to run in the next time just to learn that it completely breaks when you have more than 5 people in lobby

[remote iris]

yes but i fought the boss alone cuz my friends got 1 shot

the one that took 4 hours

[deft cape]

thats some dedication

what game is it tho

[deft cape]

what broke? 😭

[remote iris]

its on roblox its called rogue nightmare also i played on hard

its a rouge like game

rouge like, dungeon crawl

[dark brook]

not mirage for sure, but its something that i cant for the life of me pin down lmao

[solemn ridge]

@trim anchor did you ever manage to reproduce being unable to back out with my mod pack? lol

[deft cape]

4 hours to solo on a roblox mod, that is some dedication fr

[deft cape]

oh yeah ik was just wondering out of curiosity

[bold oak]

I tried playing with Mirage yesterday for the first time, but my game crashed while launching. I was using the MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork as well (since I had the original version of that mod already)

[deft cape]

do you have the dependencies

[bold oak]

Weird thing is that the game loaded properly when they were disabled

Uhm, not sure. Usually they download automatically w/ any mods

What are the dependencies specifically?

[dark brook]

#1207651549313241088 message

i found a thread with sbd else having the same issue but no progress so far, and i like never get 5+ player lobbies so that was a huge shock to me

[remote iris]

roblox mod?? lol

[deft cape]

the only time it crashes is if someone manually installs without dependencies

but since you use a mod manager it should be fine

can u post ur logs

[deft cape]

oh im dumb i thought it's somr sort of mod

[bold oak]

Sure. Where do I find those?

[remote iris]

roblox has no mods lol its a platform/engine for games

[deft cape]

damn im not on my pc rn so i cant really give u the folder location rn

[bold oak]

RIP

Is it in the LethalCompany folder?

I can look for it

[dark brook]

you can copy the log from r2modman

[deft cape]

r2modman has a folder with each profile

[dark brook]

from debugging

i think

[bold oak]

I'm using Thunderstore

[lofty sorrel]

BepInEx folder in the profile you ran, there's a file called LogOutput.log

[dark brook]

same thing really

[bold oak]

Oh, sweet then

Taking a peek rn

[deft cape]

post it here as well, im curious what the cause could be

[bold oak]

I'll use this, right?

[deft cape]

oh yeah that looks right

[bold oak]

And when do I use it specifically? Never done this before

Just after the game crashes or

[dark brook]

yeah

[bold oak]

Alright, bet

[dark brook]

before launching the game again so it doesnt generate a new log

[solemn ridge]

Yay I love when I update mods and can't load my save anymore without getting a black screen and have no idea what is happening lol

[dark brook]

me when

every time

[deft cape]

we need some version control for modpacks

[solemn ridge]

New save works fine

[deft cape]

thunderstore git when

[solemn ridge]

So sounds like save corruption

[dark brook]

i have like 150 hours played and probably 70 of that was spent debugging stuff

[bold oak]

MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork is completely standalone from MaskedEnemyOverhaul, right?

[deft cape]

this is why im just gonna use other modpacks instead of maintaining one to play with friends

[dark brook]

yes

[deft cape]

make sure you have that compatibility config enabled

it's mentioned in the mirage readme

[dark brook]

yeah i was doing the maintaining thingy, but last week played with a streamer

we got my fully functional tested working pack

[bold oak]

Yep yep. Just enabled it

[dark brook]

played like a quota with 5 people, then others joined and the game just died

[deft cape]

oh wtf 😭

[dark brook]

the disadvantages of running a curated modpack is that you're not getting the cool updates asap.... then again i could probably just... update the mods myself

[deft cape]

except the updates could break the game ofc

[bold oak]

Ayo, it just loaded XD

[deft cape]

huh....

[amber swallow]

🤓

[deft cape]

well i guess the logs arent needed anymore lmao

[remote iris]

bro chill 😭

[bold oak]

I wonder if this was the issue

[deft cape]

oh yeah forgotabout this msg lmao but TIL

[bold oak]

'cause it was set to false

[dark brook]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/710505734282018889/1210490960342032414/2024-02-23_103741061.gif

[deft cape]

nope it's not, that config is to fix something else

[bold oak]

Hmmm

[remote iris]

and TIL i learned what TIL stands for

[deft cape]

if you dont have it on (or ur using MEO instead of MEOF), you end up having voices that dont match the suit

[deft cape]

lmao

[bold oak]

Ahhh

Well, only difference from last time is that I updated two mods today, but no way that's the issue

[dark brook]

maybe in 10 years when zeekeers finishes the game we will have a smooth modding experience

[bold oak]

Lol

[deft cape]

thats if he decided to work on mod support 😭

[deft cape]

yeah no clue but typically failing to load is missing dependencies

but either way that shouldnt have happened for u

since u use a mod manager

[bold oak]

Ye

If it happens again, I'll def grab the logs

[deft cape]

yep sounds good

[bold oak]

For now, tho.... Anyone wanna run a lobby w/ me and test this baby? I can send my profile code

[deft cape]

wish i could join

[lofty sorrel]

I'm so close to creating the perfect modpack

This poor fella

Symbiosis is a great mod, even if it is prone to error messages

Give bugs the means to accidentally kill themselves

[deft cape]

exactly what i like to see for these roaches

[pulsar lotus]

There is a mod where they can grab mines and turrets, sometimes they bring mines to their nest and then put items on the mines and... boom

[lofty sorrel]

While it sounds funny I don't think I would enjoy it after a couple games

[solemn ridge]

Wait Symbiosis throws errors?

[reef falcon]

Hai, where does the mod store the audio files?

[lofty sorrel]

Just whenever bugs try to use an item added by another mod that's unusable

[lofty sorrel]

They're in the LethalCompany steam folder

[solemn ridge]

Ah so setting use item to false would fix it then

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah the errors don't actually affect anything though. It's mostly just items that require them to have been used by a player, like AC helmets for example. It throws an error but nothing breaks

[solemn ridge]

I'd love to see a hoarding bug trying to use the cursed bunny hood or the curses shoes

XD

[deft cape]

damn that might be a problem i'll run into when i make masked enemies use items as well

[lofty sorrel]

Probably yeah

Just depends what your ideal solution would be tho, like either let them hold unusable items but just not use them, or give them more player attributes that allow them to use more items

[pulsar lotus]

Yeah the mine thing is kinda not fun after a while but the turret one is really cool !

[lofty sorrel]

I like to use FairAI as well, so it would probably end in a bloodbath every time ;(

[pulsar lotus]

oh yeah haha

[deft cape]

no clue how it works under the hood yet since i haven't even looked

i'll see eventually when i get to that part

[lament mica]

It's not too bad it touches it to sync the stamina boost with the meter colors when using tzp. Has it broken mod comp. For you?

[solemn ridge]

Ahhhhh that is fair

Nah I don't think it was the cause of it

But I was going through mods just trying to make my list more stable

I prefer EladsHud anyways, I only replaced it cus someone mentioned there were ui issues with BadassCompany when using it which just is false

[lament mica]

Make sense I prefer a stable mod list as well it's just harder on Lethal

[remote iris]

BARCH WE GOT A ONE DAY CALL LES GO

[deft cape]

what does that mean in this context

[remote iris]

a call that is still running after it got started one day ago

[amber swallow]

🤓

[remote iris]

bro has no chill

[torpid arch]

lmaooooooooo

[deft cape]

yall on that call marathon again

[remote iris]

yes

[amber swallow]

u wanna join?

[deft cape]

im good im trying to focus rn 😭

[amber swallow]

ok

[dark brook]

@deft cape btw, have you looked at scaledpenalties not working with mirage's disable penalty setting?

[deft cape]

it doesn't work for you? as long as you have penalties enabled in mirage, it should just be vanilla behaviour

speaking of which i forgot to set that to true as the default in the last update

[livid cape]

My friends and I are having an issue with voices being recorded. It records like 1-2 voice per round and then just spams those 1-2 voices the entire round.

[deft cape]

@livid cape set DeleteRecordingsPerRound to false if you want it to use voices from previous rounds

[livid cape]

we don't want to, but if that'll make it save more than 2 recordings per round then that's better than nothing

im not exaggerating when I say 1-2 voices per round either. in all 19 games we played last night, a max of 2 recordings was ever made per round

[twin abyss]

Yeh, this is my personal take on teh best settings @livid cape :

Helps when you got that one friend that rarely says one thing per entire day -u-

I kid you not, I heard him say "Yes" like 15 times within 2 days from enemies

cause he had 1 of like 3 lines

[livid cape]

thats basically what I have, but I allow to hear own voice

but I won't know the change until I play again

[twin abyss]

👌 Hope it goes well

[lofty sorrel]

Sounds like it could potentially be bugged, but also could be bad luck, or anything really

If it happens consistently between sessions (game restarts) then that is probably something to worry about

[deft cape]

it's completely RNG for the voicelines picked

but i'll probably add a config option for the next update where it'll only play sounds that it hasn't before, until the "pool" of audio clips it can pick from is fully used, which then the same audio clips can be played again

[dark brook]

but if I have them enabled, isn't it just gonna count the mimics as bodies that weren't returned back?

[deft cape]

as of now yeah

i guess in the future i'll look into making the penalty only apply when a masked enemy isn't spawned via SpawnOnPlayerDeath

[dark brook]

so when running scaledpenalties it won't matter

I see ty

[remote iris]

the call has been running since then till today (also epic timezone difference and the call been running for 2 days rip discord money)

[deft cape]

bro is siphoning discord's server resources

[amber swallow]

you blurred out my name

[remote iris]

ik

idk if u want ur real name here

[amber swallow]

my real name is in my username it does not matter

[remote iris]

u were asleep icouldn't ask so i just blurred so ye

[timber notch]

Their real name is IRMA-FELLA, obviously

[lofty sorrel]

Hi Fella

[amber swallow]

im literally a dementia patient

[timber notch]

I—

[deft cape]

hey thats a confidential document 😔

[oblique galleon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2QY90PQ27TE

bugs be like

[deft cape]

everything is a mimic

[solemn ridge]

Are you a mimic? 🤨

[deft cape]

am i real? yes im real

now come closer

[dark brook]

are you a lethal company mimic or a loving company mimic

big difference

[lofty sorrel]

Now that

That's what the mask is

[deft cape]

i have not ventured into those off limit areas yet

[solemn ridge]

I can't wait to run into mimics wearing flashlights and walkies

Added the reserved mods in my updated pack lol

[granite musk]

.... wait i swear i saw a mimic holdin flashlight already

[solemn ridge]

They do if you have the reserved mods

[granite musk]

since when ts a feature

[quaint leaf]

What's reserved mods?

[solemn ridge]

ReservedItemSlotCore, ReservedFlashlightSlot, and ReservedWalkieSlot lol

[quaint leaf]

Oooh

I'd use them if they weren't incompatible with Advanced Company

[solemn ridge]

You should get rid of AC anyways now

[quaint leaf]

Whyyy

It's very customizable

[torpid arch]

oh boy, you don't know?

[solemn ridge]

Doesn't matter, after the stuff that happened yesterday get rid of it, plus the dev added some malicious stuff and dropped LLL support in the 2 recent updates

[quaint leaf]

Oooh

Alrighty, I'll get rid of it. I'm really gonna miss the tactical helmet and headset though

[solemn ridge]

mod's been deprecated and removed from the Thunderstore entirely

[quaint leaf]

Hopefully someone steals the feature

[oblique galleon]

You don't have to steal something already stolen :p

[atomic seal]

Oh, I hope they make something similar

Now AC will never happen again because of this incident?

[solemn ridge]

There's already a bunch of mods that can replace it

[atomic seal]

Did AC have a virus?

[solemn ridge]

and mods will come that add some of it's features I'm sure

The dev added malicious code in an update that would force quit the game if you had a particular mod installed.

[quaint leaf]

I just want the headset

[atomic seal]

Which version?

[solemn ridge]

Then with the next update dropped LLL support which killed the mod

[atomic seal]

I haven't updated after 1.1.2

[oblique galleon]

The cosmetics? Other mods would add that

Also

#modding-general

[atomic seal]

I can’t re-download AC, otherwise he’ll sue me? 😂

[solemn ridge]

You could view the deprecated thread if you really, really wanna see the full extent of what happened

[remote iris]

hey @solemn ridge do you know a mod that has the spawn weights of AC or something similar cuz i cant find ones for custom moons

[atomic seal]

I know everything

And I've already read it

I'm just wondering - will they come to a compromise or not?

[oblique galleon]

Last warning

#modding-general

[atomic seal]

Should I take a risk and download AC 1.1.2 to my mod xD

[remote iris]

oh sorry

[dark talon]

you can. it's fine. Really sad to see people dogpiling on him to a point where he had his own work worth hundreds if not thousands of hours deleted. I think for me personally this killed LC. Can't possibly go back to MC or BiggerLobbies.
Really sad as I just started my own modding endeavours..

[remote iris]

yeah true

i really enjoyed AC

especially the spawn weights

lets not talk about this here

[lofty sorrel]

There's plenty of alternatives. MC doesn't have any major issues, and there's a lot of mods that let you change weights of just about everything

The UI was convenient sure, but not novel in its function

[remote iris]

lethalquantities seemed like it would work

but the config never laoded

loaded*

or the file

[lofty sorrel]

I started using Lethal Quantities, what's not working with it? They recently deprecated the config system in favour of a preset (json) you can edit with a web ui, have you done that?

[remote iris]

well its my first time using the mod since AC basically had everything

the preset thing just didn't laod

at all

ill try one last time

[lofty sorrel]

I'm not really sure what you mean by it didn't load

[remote iris]

it just isn't there

i have themod

[lofty sorrel]

And you've loaded the game and hosted a game to generate the preset?

[remote iris]

yes and i started a round

ill try again

one last time

and ill see

[lofty sorrel]

Mine works perfectly so idk what could be going wrong

[safe sundial]

Hi guys, so i have the mod "Mirage" and it has a function which spawns mimics on player death
i have it on 10%
but when someone dies it spawn a few mimics, one time it spawned like 20 of them and crashed all of our games

[deft cape]

that shouldn't be possible unless another mod is conflicting with mirage

do you have any logs

[remote iris]

one time i went to a moon and i saw 5 of me standing menacingly in the corner

[deft cape]

when you landed? mirage doesnt handle natural spawns though

[remote iris]

yes

idk it was after i removed some emote mods cause they were causing lag

[deft cape]

dont think theres anything i can do about that cuz i dont touch spawn rates at all

[remote iris]

kk

[deft cape]

@safe sundial do you have any logs? i just want to see what's erroring, although im still pretty sure this cant happen with mirage installed by itself

[safe sundial]

Where could i find these?

Are they stored anywhere?

Beacuse it started happening after i changed the value from 100 to 10

and after removing some of the mods ( i didnt remove any libraries )

[deft cape]

are you using r2? there should be a button in the settings to export your log

although it'd be of your most recent game, so if it didn't happen in your latest game it'll be the wrong log sadly

[safe sundial]

It happend in every game

sadly

Ill try to find the log

[deft cape]

thanks

[safe sundial]

do you think MaskedAIRevamp could be making any issues with it?

[deft cape]

nope theres no conflict with MaskedAIRevamp

mirage doesnt modify the ai at all

[deft cape]

it could be another masked mod cobflicting

could you also show me your mod list? i just wanna take a quick skim through to see which masked mods you have

[safe sundial]

Is it okay if i send the profile code?

from r2

[deft cape]

yeah for sure

ill check when i get on my pc in like 30 mins

[safe sundial]

018de6f3-9aad-af51-d6c0-915b3b3ce6e2

Okay

I removed the mod for a min we will check if it was actually the one causing issues

Is it normal that theres so many errors in the log lmao?

[deft cape]

if you have a large modpack it's pretty inevitable

always a mod conflicting with another mod

or a mod just erroring by itself in general

[safe sundial]

makes sense

[deft cape]

@safe sundial sadly the errors in that log isn't useful enough for me to be able to pinpoint which mod is causing the issue

but despite there being a bunch of MaskedAIRevamp errors, it's not from that

[safe sundial]

Damn

I removed it

anyway'

[deft cape]

@safe sundial i just tried running your modpack with mirage installed and i couldn't replicate the issue

how often does it happen for you

after i died it teleported me into the backrooms without spawning anything

are you 100% sure it's SpawnOnPlayerDeath and not natural spawns?

SpawnOnPlayerDeath is only spawning 1 enemy

just tried your modpack again and it seems like the player just disappears after they die even if backrooms is uninstalled

there's some really bad mod conflicts in your modpack, idk what the cause of it is though

can confirm the issue is not from mirage though

[hazy lily]

thanks lol

[lunar quest]

Whatttt I love takethatmaskoff

I don’t think I ran into an issue with it

[solemn ridge]

I mean you can use it

[lunar quest]

What exactly was happening

[solemn ridge]

You just might run into funny moments where a dead person teleports inside as a masked

XD

[lunar quest]

like using the teleporter into the ship?

[solemn ridge]

No lol

I had a friend one game die to lightning, I carried their body back to the ship

Eventually I came back and my friend said they were mimiced and their body was gone and they were walking around in the facility

LOL

[lunar quest]

LMFAO

that’s hilarious

[solemn ridge]

I was like "How? I watched him die" XD

[safe sundial]

Basically every death

[safe sundial]

Ye

Naturalspawn is off

[safe sundial]

Thank you

Are there any mods that could check for conflicts?

[deft cape]

natural spawn is off but another mod could still be handling spawns.
do you have any spawn control mods? im not on my pc so i cant check

[sterile dust]

Does anyone know what could be causing masked to not copy the skins correctly? Previously, they were copying correctly even with unique skins and cosmetics. But now, they do not.
They will use only base models rather than the unique ones.

I'm using take that mask off, MEO, and Mirage, but there weren't any problems with copying the skin before...

[lofty sorrel]

What mod are you using that adds cosmetics

[sterile dust]

I removed them all, but it also stopped working after I did that.

Which is weird since it was working before I installed the cosmetics.

I'm also using advancedcompany

[lofty sorrel]

That could potentially be the problem, seeing as it was recently deprecated

[sterile dust]

Which one was recently deprecated? The cosmetics or advancedcompany?

oh wha... what happened to advancedcompany...??

[pulsar lotus]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1211704241446715434

[deft cape]

just saying, you should use MEOF with the compatibility config: https://github.com/qwbarch/lc-mirage#can-i-use-maskedenemyoverhaul-with-this-mod

although either way that's not gonna fix the issue ur having right now

i'm not even sure what the issue could be

@sterile dust do you have any logs?

[granite musk]

have anyone tested mirage with these mods and settings?

[amber tinsel]

Yep

The masked drop their mask when killed

But not the corpse of the player

[lofty sorrel]

All of this should work. There could be issues with TakeThatMaskOff but they're issues in that mod alone really.

What purpose do you have for having MEOF if I may ask?

[granite musk]

i think it just hiding the mask and hands
mirage already have those feature so i assume i dont need MEOF ?

[versed lichen]

Will Mirage include player usernames at some point?

[lofty sorrel]

All MEOF adds that the others don't is two experimental features: Name tags and Zombie Apocalypse mode, and it also has the ability to show the Mask again once the Masked is attacking (unsure if this works with Mirage), and it lets you control their spawnrates (which can be done by a plethora of other mods)

[deft cape]

one day, but probably not until v2 is released: #1200695291972685926 message

[versed lichen]

amazing, thanks

[deft cape]

for now i recommend using GeneralImprovements to disable name tags (at least to make it harder to tell between real players and masked enemies)

[granite musk]

aight then i guess i dont need MEOF if i use mirage atm with my use case
next is the takethatmaskoff compatibility cuz i read above someone is having issue with it ?

[deft cape]

i would personally at least try it first and see if you have any issues.
i looked at their decompiled code and it really shouldn't conflict with mirage

still not confirmed if mirage does conflict with it basically

[lofty sorrel]

I think the mod's just been struggling in general, not necessarily a compatibility issue

[deft cape]

ah i see

[versed lichen]

thanks

[sterile dust]

I can check but I'm gonna try with advancedcompany disabled first once I'm able to get on my PC to see if that fixes it possibly.

[deft cape]

there's no compatibility issue with AC so i'm afraid it's probably a conflict with something else

when you're able to, ping me with your log and i'll try and take a look if there's any specific mod throwing some errors

[sterile dust]

@deft cape To simplify it, I've just loaded the essential mods I'm trying to get to work together. So I used the Korone model previously and the mimic copied her perfectly. Now, all it copies is the base model with her colors and the 1000 quota stare in the visor...

What I did was go into the test room to see if it copied correctly, and it no longer does.

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape got some info for you

Had a friend get resurrected inside again with TakeThatMaskOff installed, and they said one of the masks we grabbed off of a mask we killed with it disappeared from the ship lol

[deft cape]

you don't have MaskTheDead installed though right? cuz mirage doesn't use any nearby mask items for the zombie feature

[deft cape]

hmm i thought modelreplacementapi doesn't support masked enemies. maybe i'm wrong though

[solemn ridge]

I do, but MaskTheDead avoids allowing that to happen on the ship

I could remove it too though ig

[deft cape]

mirage doesn't use nearby masks for it though so it shouldn't be from mirage

[solemn ridge]

Well I removed them both

Should hopefully help lol

[deft cape]

you're sure it's not natural spawns though right 🤔

[solemn ridge]

If Natural Spawns is causing dead bodies to resurrect that would be odd

You should test that though

[deft cape]

@sterile dust just to confirm, when the korone model was applied properly on the masked enemy, this was with the same mods, but with your full modpack instead right?
and right now when you have just the essential mods, it's not applying the model properly?

[sterile dust]

It is not working on both atm

[deft cape]

oh like you actually see the dead bodies coming to life huh, i was just making sure

some people think naturally mimicked masked enemies are from the spawn on player death feature

natural spawns doesn't resurrect players so no need to test that part

[sterile dust]

The last time it worked was about a few days ago. Since then I only removed all the cosmetics and two costume mods

[solemn ridge]

I've yet to have one wearing a mask

[deft cape]

the thing is, i don't remember ModelReplacementAPI supporting masked enemies in general, but i really could be wrong

[deft cape]

natural spawns don't wear a mask though

[solemn ridge]

It doesn't

[deft cape]

if you have the textures disabled and and arms out animation disabled, it applies for all masked enemies

so whether or not it's a natural spawn or from SpawnOnPlayerDeath, you won't see the mask texture

[solemn ridge]

Btw do you know what might be causing this error spam?

Trying to find what mod is doing that

[deft cape]

yeah i don't even know how it worked to begin with since ModelReplacementAPI doesn't support masked enemies by default, sorry :(
the author of the library said they're busy with other priorities so they're not adding support for it anytime soon

[dawn cloud]

Gotta land the ship

[deft cape]

can you delete that, it's clogging up the whole channel 😛
i have no idea what it's from though, but it shouldn't be from mirage since i don't touch any of those functions

[dawn cloud]

Not just load into the game

Always upload logs in files

[solemn ridge]

Yeah just wondering if you had an idea what mod might do it

[dawn cloud]

So you can click a button to expand on it

[deft cape]

i've been wondering myself cuz the modpack i tested earlier had that error spam, and it was giving me some pretty insane fps drops

[deft cape]

yep this

[solemn ridge]

any mods that touched enemies besides Mirage?

[deft cape]

well i don't really remember which mods was in it, but this is the profile code if you want to compare it to yours to see which mods are in both modpacks

[sterile dust]

Huh, so basically, it's strange that it was even working for us in the first place. I should have recorded it so I had some tangible proof of that happening lol.

Thanks for letting me know! I've was going through all the mods I had on and searching through this server for the past two days trying to figure out what was going on 😅

[deft cape]

maybe you could find out a bit more by asking the ModelReplacementAPI author, since this is more about that mod than mirage

mirage doesn't manually apply any cosmetics, it just picks the mimicking player of a masked enemy and sets it

and then the cosmetic mods apply the correct cosmetic for that enemy

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge out of curiosity, is that error something you only just recently started getting

[solemn ridge]

Not sure, just something I've been trying to troubleshoot cus we noticed it earlier

[deft cape]

ah

[remote iris]

so landing the ship brings up an error with lethalevelloader

also barch

the call is still running

@deft cape i cant read code well can u?

[deft cape]

call marathon pt 3

has it been 48 hours yet

[deft cape]

ill take a look

[remote iris]

its been 72 hours

since the call startef

started*

[deft cape]

oh shit lmfao

hmm i got no clue, best bet is to contact batby and/or the lethalquantities author

[remote iris]

rasmus (the nerd emoji dude) started a call 3 days ago rn its 1 pm for me

[remote iris]

kk

[deft cape]

his name keeps changing 😭

ill forever just know him as the 🤓 guy

[remote iris]

lol

i mean we call him rasmus but bro keeps changing his display

[amber swallow]

🤓

[remote iris]

mr nerd emoji how are you bro

[deft cape]

welcome back mr nerd emoji

@remote iris since u use lethal quantities, can you recommend me some settings for masked enemies

[remote iris]

uhhhhh lethalquantities wont work for me

but i usually put 30-50 and for atlas abyss 100

[deft cape]

oh the error eh 😭

[remote iris]

ye

[deft cape]

oh for rarity?

[remote iris]

yes spawn weight

they will spawn but not too frequently

[deft cape]

is there a eli5 for spawn weights

[remote iris]

idk

lemme see

cant find anything

[deft cape]

higher number is more rare though right

[remote iris]

no

[deft cape]

oh lmfao

[remote iris]

u combine all the weights

and it will show chance

of them spawning

higher weight higher chance tospawn

[deft cape]

yea i see the percentages now, but does that mean i have to add every daytime enemy for this now 🤔

all i wanted to do was to increase the spawn rates for masked enemies and lower it for herobrine/shy guy

oh there's literally an add all button

i have brain damage

[remote iris]

well it means herobrine will spawn 1% of the time

[deft cape]

oh yeah i get how that works now

just kinda sad that it seems like i need to configure each one individually

[safe sundial]

oh damn

lethal quantities is way more advanced than I thought

heh.. advanced...

[deft cape]

heh....

i feel like im approaching using lethal quantities wrong, since right now im adding each monster and adjusting its weight

doesn't seem right, and im assuming there's a less tedious way of doing what i want

[granite musk]

have anyone experience dead player body becoming 100 or something

[deft cape]

are you sure they're from SpawnOnPlayerDeath, and not just a natural spawn?

[granite musk]

like we killed each other twice to test yea

[deft cape]

ah

can you drop your profile code? i'll test this tomorrow

[granite musk]

oh sorry i mean the weight if thats not clear enough

not like they spawn more bodies or anything

[deft cape]

oh yeah i know

what % did you set it at

also how many times have you tested it? sometimes it's just rng being rng

[granite musk]

jst 2 atm, im gonna test again in a bit see if its the same without takethemaskoff

[deft cape]

might just be a case of it just being rng then, although lunxara did say that takethatmaskoff was somehow affecting SpawnOnPlayerDeath

(which still isn't confirmed if it really is conflicting with mirage or not though)

i should probably test that interaction myself tomorrow just to confirm it

[safe sundial]

I dont think so

but maybe hullbreaker?

This one

I have employee assignments but i think it only modifies the chance of the spawnrate of the assignment target so its actually possible to find it

and mimic isnt there

but i dont think it would have any conflicts anyway

[granite musk]

takethemaskoff not there but i still get the 100lb weight

[granite musk]

wait hol up i think its my bad lmao

i have balanced item mod and somehow they made it to 100

[lofty sorrel]

I ended up having an issue similar. You might need to go through and remove some of the things LQ adds as it generates. Like it reads LGU contract items as traps so tries to spawn them with other traps etc. Just worth checking what's being forced to load

[remote iris]

if the preset file could load i would

[lofty sorrel]

It won't load into the web gui?

[remote iris]

u need to put the preset in the web gui

and i dont have the preset

[safe sundial]

yeah I dont either

[lofty sorrel]

Where are you trying to find the preset file?

[remote iris]

config/lethalquantities/advanced/yeah

in that

[lofty sorrel]

Hm, yeah, that's correct

Idk what would be causing it not to load

Could you send me a log of you just loading in and landing on a planet?

[remote iris]

i did

[remote iris]

s

it wont load

just stuck there

[lofty sorrel]

Okay I'll have a look in a bit

[remote iris]

AC is back i think

[dawn cloud]

for lethal quantities i mean

[remote iris]

it seems its related to both LLL and lethal quantities

[remote iris]

@lofty sorrel what if u just send me ur preset thing

i cant play rn and my lethal company addiction urges are killing me

[lofty sorrel]

Mine includes a lot of my modded scraps and enemies and traps etc, idk how that would play out

[remote iris]

uhh can u generate me a default one (dont know if u can)

never played with lethalquantities

[lofty sorrel]

I can probably do that yeah, are you playing with any custom interiors?

[remote iris]

yes

[lofty sorrel]

I think the issue's something around LLL choosing an interior

I'm not familiar with LLL at all tho

[remote iris]

it even glitches on moons like rend,expermentation

stuff which i dont have custom interiors in

[lofty sorrel]

This is the entirely vanilla preset. Idk how it would work with adding this to your pack cause idk if it adds the modded content on top, but maybe it'll help

[remote iris]

thanks

[fading sapphire]

I relate too much, I have a hunger only lethal can sate

[soft hollow]

I’m genuinely tweakin

[deft cape]

wait is the issue that a masked enemy is spawning, or a body is spawning?

cuz maybe i just misunderstood

[remote iris]

BARCH!!!!

OUR DOWNLOADS ARE SKYROCKETING

ALSO OUR BUGS PROB LOL

IDK

[deft cape]

LETS GOOOOOOOO

[deft cape]

i hope not lmfao

to be fair there hasn't been any bug reports (that's actually a mirage bug)

[remote iris]

ye

[deft cape]

so it's looking good for now

[remote iris]

its seems were moving to phase two now right?

[deft cape]

whatever that means, i guess so 😂

after that viperian video dropped

ppl are starting to know

[remote iris]

aka v2 focusing

[deft cape]

o yeeeee

thats why i havent done any updates recently

[remote iris]

ye viperian basically holds the lethal company mod recommendations genre between his hands

[deft cape]

although after a bit of work for v2 i might implement a couple changes

[deft cape]

i feel so honoured to be on that channel

first time i played lethal, i looked up mods on his channel

and now mirage is being featured on there

[remote iris]

since he made a vid on it more vid creators will see aka free advertisement

[remote iris]

yo same lol

[deft cape]

yeeee it's lit

[remote iris]

HAHAHA LES GO

[deft cape]

LOOL yup i saw that

[remote iris]

ALSO 35K VIEWS

WE DEF GETTING DOWNLOADS

[toxic junco]

super happy for you lads 💙 very much deserved, non-stop recommending this mod to so many <3

[deft cape]

yeppp the one viperian vid helped a fuck ton

[deft cape]

thanks much appreciated ❤️

oh shit really appreciate that as well! (referring to the edit)

[remote iris]

ITS THE MAN HIMSELF

barch dont take this to heart lol..

rasmus (🤓 dude) is forcing me to play pokemone help

and he is forcing me to watch jojo

[autumn glen]

watch out, prolonged exposure to peak might cause a based overload (what the fuck am i even saying)

[remote iris]

my friend would agree 😭

bro made me watch 5 parts

[lilac saffron]

Based

[autumn glen]

just wait till you get to the other 4 🔥

[lilac saffron]

Is 6 good

I finished 5 before it got animated

And haven't found the time to binge yet

[autumn glen]

6 is great yeah

you have to read for the other 3 but they're all amazing

[autumn glen]

the part 5 anime elevates the source material so hard, such a great adaptation

p6 is rough at times but it's a pretty good adaptation too

[plucky aspen]

Had this same experience a few weeks ago. I also watched him before I started. Welcome to the club🎉🎊🥳

[remote iris]

your like his senior lol

[lofty sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-spies-spies-in-disguise-youre-spies-gif-20405819

[remote iris]

😭

[plucky aspen]

LMAO WELCOME ABOARD YOUNG LAD @deft cape

[willow lily]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-gif-22328611

[deft cape]

THANKS PIXEL ❤️

[deft cape]

LOL

[deft cape]

jojo is based

[amber swallow]

how do i nerd you on the steamdeck?

[remote iris]

u click the emoji icon

[amber swallow]

🤓

[livid cape]

what is the credits penalty? I don't see any information on what this means at all

[remote iris]

like if someones dies and u dont get the body

u get fined 20% of ur money

that removes it cuz mirage removes the body when the player dies and a mimic spawns on him

[livid cape]

ohhh ok

[deft cape]

should probably set it back to true to enable it (default behaviour)

i forgot to set the default back

[deft cape]

i'll do it for him

🤓

[remote iris]

@lofty sorrel turns out it was on their end

now it works

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah I was having issues and opened a git issue that they responded to within minutes

[soft hollow]

Ok Im back and locked in

Any testing, any feedback, anything needed Great Asset Mi6k is here to help.

[lofty sorrel]

All the big boy bugs seem to be gone atm, soldier

[deft cape]

huge, we can all cave into our addictions again

[deft cape]

the kevin hart pic is back 😳

[deft cape]

my friend not realizing the masked enemy isn't a real player
https://outplayed.tv/media/1xnYjw

ignore my goofy ahh laugh

[timber notch]

lmaoooo

[timber notch]

fellow goofy ahh laugh haver i see

[deft cape]

LMFAOO

[lofty sorrel]

THIS is why we're here, THIS is what we're fighting for

IT is nearly 5AM and I'm coughing up my lungs I WANT to sleep

[deft cape]

lmfaoooo that was the highlight of the day for me

[soft hollow]

LMAOOOOO

[twilit monolith]

that laugh has such joy and mirth!

also that was incredible xD

@deft cape I just pushed v3.1 of the AIFix btw, accidentally broke 3.0 and it wasn't even loading the plugin, so update if ya can

[deft cape]

😂 😂

ah bet thanks for the heads up (and the update) ❤️

[fading sapphire]

Glad to see I get my LethalQuantities issue updates from the Mirage thread, I was having issues yesterday with it too 😅

[hoary gazelle]

Now this shit looks fire asf. Usually when someone post something this ambitious the mod is dead in 3 months. Though Ive seen how much you enjoy this mod and working on it (probably) that I have so much faith that this vision will come. Keep fuckin cooking man

you are about to cook a 4 course meal

[deft cape]

thanks for the kind words! we're trying our best to make it a reality

[deft cape]

it's @vast cobalt as well fyi 😉
v2 wouldn't be possible without him helping out

[toxic junco]

bless oeis 🙏

[lilac saffron]

We all love barch and oeis

[torpid pecan]

Dunno if anybody has said this, but i STRONGLY recommend putting the mimic voices on for roaming locusts
It fucked up my friends who stayed back at the ship so much

especially cuz we had lethal escape on, so they wasnt sure if it was a genuine enemy coming out

[deft cape]

it does make it confusing for sure 😂
i don't have it enabled when i play with my group, but when i was testing it, i kept thinking there were enemies near me, when in fact it was just some harmless flies

[toxic junco]

I love putting it on birds cause one will fly by with the most random comment 😂😭💙

Had a friend walk into them, on otherside of the bridge on vow. They made them fly away on vow and the bird flew towards me screaming in my friends voice

[deft cape]

hearing a random scream is hilarious 😂
reminds me of a specific moment in this video (mimics the scream a couple seconds after the linked timestamp): https://youtu.be/5ENB3GoSx78?t=142

[vagrant urchin]

I cant tell is the configs for the mimicking inverted?

cuz the last time i tried it none of them said anything

[deft cape]

not sure what you mean by inverted, but they do talk quite often by default

i'm not sure what would cause it to not say anything in your case

[deft cape]

do you happen to have logs of when this happened? just wanna see if there's maybe any errors

[remote iris]

imma watch this while eating lasagana

lol

[remote iris]

dawg dats a goofy ah laugh

[deft cape]

😂 😭

[deft cape]

that looks fucking good

[vagrant urchin]

i dont rn but i can recreate it when im free

[deft cape]

sounds good lmk

[vagrant urchin]

oh yeah what i mean by this is that i turned all the monster audio into true for whether they should mimic or not but it was off by default

Im prob being stupid rn

[deft cape]

oh yeah they're off by default

oh do you mean inverted as in, compared to skinwalkers? then yes

mirage only has masked enemies enabled by default

you should look through the entire config though. there's features you might not want that's enabled by default

i also recommend enabling credits penalty, it's still set to false because i forgot about it

which comes from mirage being a slightly different mod during its initial release

[vagrant urchin]

Ohhh

wait so if i set it to true will it or will it not mimic voices

what~5

[deft cape]

it'll mimic voices for whichever enemy you set to true

[vagrant urchin]

alr thanks alot!

[deft cape]

(except for EnabledModdedEnemies, which mimics voices for all modded enemies as a whole)

np, lmk if you have any other questions

[vagrant urchin]

Epiko

I swear when i enabled everything [except the locust and bees] the locust were the only one who spoke

[deft cape]

that's definitely not intended, it's supposed to work as long as it's enabled (set to true)

could you send logs next time you try mirage

[vagrant urchin]

alr ill send it if it ever bugs out

[deft cape]

yep sounds good

[vagrant urchin]

🙏

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape so I discovered a really nice benefit of EnemyFix, if you use EnemyFix it helps avoid some of the log spam that sometimes happens when ending a game lol

[deft cape]

which log spam? is it related to the errors that audioknight was figuring out how to patch out

[remote iris]

ayyyy thats fire

more ppl should know about dat mod

[deft cape]

oh wait EnemyFix, isnt that despawning errors then

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

I think vanilla just throws some errors when despawning

Lol

EnemyFix avoids it

Idk why but that's a really good benefit to have tbh

[bright junco]

i have a friend who is so easily tricked by them

yesterday he was carrying my body, a friend died and turned masked on the ship and so while he returned from vow he saw that friend going inside and he kept calling for him, masked said "hi? hello?" as if not hearing and went in

we had to quickly vote for the ship to go so that he'd know it wasnt him

he was going to follow the masked inside lmao

its so bad when theres eyeless dogs too, because you dont hear people talk often when that happens

[deft cape]

LOOL if one of my friends did that i'd have so much fun watching them follow the masked

[twin abyss]

@deft cape - New function: have it so if a masked walks into the ship with a player in it, they can shut teh ship door ;p

with it only rolling that chance if it's late enough to warrant hiding from a giant/dog

[graceful steppe]

Love it when it does that

[deft cape]

any ai changes will have to come in v2

could be something i add around then though

[safe sundial]

give the masked guns

at all times

[deft cape]

lethal compny cod when

[heavy elk]

Just downloaded, shoudl I change the vanilla voice rate for the other mobs? I like the skinwalker mods rate and was just wonderin if there's a diff 👍

[twin abyss]

50% chance to spawn with a shotgun as a 'tool'

will never fire intentionally at you, but will follow you with it in hopes it randomly goes off.

Will reload to full ammo if emptied

now that I mention it... you always get the shotgun off the nutcracker with safety off

does the nutcracker ever have the chance for it to misfire?...

whilst alive - that is

I know for certain the shotgun can go off even during the death animation - but I never followed it long enough to see/hear if it ever goes off on its own

although I'd gander that it doesn't... I've been around them for about maybe 30 minutes of total time give-or-take 5 minutes

[remote iris]

@deft cape

[deft cape]

im not sure what the skinwalkers delay is like so you'll have to experiment a bit with it

[deft cape]

oh shit i forgot about that lmao, did you end up trying it out

[remote iris]

yes

go down

and you'll see

also played a quota with my friends

with it

fire

and now there is lol

[deft cape]

oh yeah im starting to remember now

how'd u even previously find it when there was no release thread 🤔

[bleak citrus]

after installing Mirage, I noticed I could hear masked enemies from very far away, though they were very quiet. I think one had spawned on opposite side of Vow and I could hear it faintly mumbling. is that intentional/any way to adjust that from our end?

[deft cape]

do you mean the voices?

[bleak citrus]

sorry, yep!

[deft cape]

that's probably on my end, i guess the audio settings i used isn't accurate enough still

i'll look into a fix sometime maybe next week

definitely not intentional though

[bleak citrus]

sweet, looking forward to it!

[lofty sorrel]

There are some issues with audio being heard at an infinite range in the base game so it could potentially just be caused by a vanilla bug

[soft hollow]

Ill look into it if i can see what ur talking about

[deft cape]

oh shit thanks mi6k

[torpid arch]

Hey @deft cape, quick question: Can i replace Skinwalkers, MaskTheDead and MaskEnemyOverhaul with your mod (for maximum function parity)? 🥹

[bleak citrus]

also possible yeah, though this was the first time we had it happen. We also had the ZombieApocalypse mod setting enabled in maskedenemyoverhaul for the sake of getting masked enemies to spawn outdoors right away when we land

each one we could hear quite far away

Not sure how it sounds indoors since we only had voices enabled for Bracken but he refused to spawn >:(

[safe sundial]

it doesnt do the exact same thing as mask the dead

(I know you didnt ask me)

and its missing the nametag feature from meo

[torpid arch]

yeah, i know that - question is are the two methods gonna conflict with each other and spawn 0/million masked?

[torpid arch]

that's good to know

[safe sundial]

im silly

[soft hollow]

Mirage doesnt change masked behaviors

[torpid arch]

let me rephrase that: are those mods gonna conflict with each other?

[lofty sorrel]

No issues with Mirage and those mods, could potentially be an issue with TakeThatMaskOff

[soft hollow]

So I recommend replacing Skinwalkers and MEO, while keeping MaskTheDead

[deft cape]

maskthedead is a bit different since it requires a mask item and a dead body on the ground

[lofty sorrel]

Also you need to use MEOFork

[soft hollow]

Actually I HIGHLY recommend u replace Skinwalkers

[safe sundial]

not if you use the MEO fork

[deft cape]

well to start with, you should probably uninstall skinwalkers since it'll play separate voices