Mirage

[solemn ridge]

Sometimes it would happen after landing the ship, the game my one friend had it it happened after we landed on Rend and entered the mansion though

My guess is it's whenever some exception gets thrown

It causes the possibility for whoever gets it to be unable to hear someone

@deft cape Maybe you know what might be the cause of this

[errant cypress]

Is the host config synced to everyone else?

[solemn ridge]

Yeah we've always had synced configs

We use a modpack code

[lofty sorrel]

Bug just doesn't seem to happen anymore, so we'll see if anyone reports the issue happening again

So what's the audio bug?

[remote iris]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Kesomannen/KeepItDown/

dis is good

[solemn ridge]

Sometimes someoene randomly can't hear me talking over vc, Ayyobee said in a larger group they had the issue where 3 people couldn't be heard randomly

I'm not sure if that's a bug with Mirage or one of it's 3 dependencies though

But it certainly happens only when Mirage and it's dependencies are installed

[lofty sorrel]

Hm, that does seem bad. I'm just gonna hope it doesn't happen to us when we play later

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I just hope @deft cape might know if it's from Mirage itself or not

If anything I'm leaning towards it being NAudio

But I could be wrong

[deft cape]

not posssible to be from naudio

it's a library for processing audio so it's completely unrelated

[solemn ridge]

Ahhhh okay good

[deft cape]

and highly unrelated to mirage since it does nothing with vc

[solemn ridge]

I only thought it could be that cus of the insane bug reports it has

[deft cape]

other than record it

[solemn ridge]

Hmmm I wonder if it's DissonanceLagFix

[deft cape]

nope cant be from that either

[solemn ridge]

Weirdddd

[deft cape]

that only turns logs off for a specific dissonance log level

ill try to verify if it's mirage if i can get reproducible steps bit i highly doubt it's from it

[lofty sorrel]

Do you have LCMaxSoundsFix Lunxara?

[solemn ridge]

Yes

[deft cape]

these options only affect voice mimics, not player vc

[lofty sorrel]

Hm, a hunch

[solemn ridge]

I was gonna guess maybe with my old pack it was caused by LCSouldTool/CustomSounds

[deft cape]

oh nice thats one of the things im trying to reproduce

[solemn ridge]

and then last night it was loaforcsSoundAPI cus Bongo pushed a hotfix for that affecting vc

But it could also be MaxSoundsFix

[deft cape]

well easiest way to tell if it's mirage is to remove it for now

cuz intil i have reproducible steps i wont be able to test it anyways

[lofty sorrel]

I wouldn't use the SoundAPI for now, at least not until 1.0. Some of the sounds straight up don't work with only the api installed

[solemn ridge]

Bongo is gonna push a fix for that later

It's some sounds that need to play OnAwake or something like that

Most of the sounds work fine with it

There's a few that don't

All in all it's still more stable than LCSoundTool and CustomSounds, and the API is new so there's bound to be a few things that need worked out

But yeah Bongo is aware that some sounds aren't working currently and plans to push an update for it

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge could you switch to skinwalkers + meo for now and then lmk if the vc issue still occurs

[solemn ridge]

I don't have a group to play with atm

[solemn ridge]

Ayyobee did that though and said it fixed it for them

@worthy helm

as far as I'm aware they don't use any mods that use any of the Sound tools either

[deft cape]

idk how to even begin debugging that issue if it's from mirage

[solemn ridge]

Maybe it's a conflict of some sort

Not necessarily Mirage itself

I ended up removing LCBetterSaves cus I had a hunch it may have been causing issues

But idk

I never used more than 2 saves anyways

[charred crow]

i had the vc issue without mirage so its prob not it

[solemn ridge]

Which leads back to it maybe being LCMaxSoundsFix

Next time I play I'll see if it's fixed lol

[fathom lichen]

Not sure if this was mentioned since I just woke up, but when I was hosting last night and noticed the problem (The VC problem), I had the player that I couldn't hear leave and rejoin and when he did, I started hearing EVERYTHING that the player had said that was previously unheard, coming from his character one after another in one long string of voice.

Something like 3 minutes of him just talking straight

[solemn ridge]

I can't see anything in LCMaxSoundsFix that touches vc

it's Source code is super simple

Hmmmmm

[worthy helm]

Well sound tools are just the dependency that I have for LR 4.0.8 since it's stable until updated with the new API. I also had MEO and LR for the longest time as well and had little to no issues alongside skinwalker.

Never had these VC issues until I replaced Skinwalkers and MEO with Mirage. And because it's my modpack, I'm usually hosting my games. And our sessions are 2+ hours long sometimes with 4+ people. And we're always playing on new saves since I'm updating the mods 1-3 times a day. (more during game sessions)

[solemn ridge]

So it's definitely something with Mirage then

I thought so

Maybe a potential conflict

with the sound mods

Idk

What if it's not a bug with Mirage though and it's UniTask or BarchLib?

@deft cape confirmed it can't be NAudio but what are the possibilities it's one of those?

[worthy helm]

I also wonder, I'm getting total desyncs from other clients too. Only 7/8 of us see the same interior and ones either A. Falling thru the earth or B. Phasing thru the interiors. We all know about having the same configs too, I make real clear before playing.

[solemn ridge]

And this happens only with Mirage and it's dependencies?

I had Weather desyncs a couple days ago

for me it was normal but it was Eclipsed for my friends

[worthy helm]

Ah yeah, I experience the Weather desync last night with the gang. Flooded for me, but rainy for them. My friend changed moons to "refresh" and sync the weather. Idk if that worked but it seemed too. Will have to reproduced that.

[solemn ridge]

UniTask doesn't have any bug reports about something like this, so yeah I'm leaning Mirage or Barchlib

[worthy helm]

I have to look into LLL or LEcore threads later if thats also affecting the weather desyncs but i'm not sure. I only have Wesley's moons that work pretty well for LEcore. And about 6 more moons for LLL.

[solemn ridge]

I don't use LLL or LEcore

[worthy helm]

and you're also getting weather desyncs?

[solemn ridge]

Yeah had them on Rend

[worthy helm]

pain

[solemn ridge]

Well til this is figured out I think I might have to back to my Skinwalkers and MEO combo lol, cus something is causing shit to break XD

@deft cape I would definitely see if it's potentially UniTask or BarchLib before assuming it's Mirage itself

Oh wow I see what you mean about the performance boost going back to MEO and Skinwalkers

My input lag is gone

[remote iris]

why am i the only one who is not expriencing game breaking issues or whatever

ig im too used to lag

as i said before i got used to lag so my friends can enjoy playing the modpack with their beefier pcs

idk my friends didn't say anything bout lag tho

[worthy helm]

It's hard to tell about the input lag, i built my PC not long ago so everything pretty much runs fine so I get some issues not related to me received by others that play with me.

[lofty sorrel]

My modpack's been super stable for a long time now, idk why I'm just not seeing any of these issues

[solemn ridge]

My pc is high end tbh, other than the small input delay performance was fine

[halcyon stratus]

This were me

[solemn ridge]

I will say one thing about LethalConfig, it being so red is so bad to stare at for a certain amount of time lol

[deft cape]

not possible for any of the dependencies to be the issue, so if it's coming from mirage it'd be mirage itself

[solemn ridge]

I wish you could change the color of it

[deft cape]

the dependencies dont interact with unity at all

[solemn ridge]

Interesting, I wonder if Mirage throws an exception sometimes then and it causes it

Here's another thought

[halcyon stratus]

I was consistently having issues with randomly being unable to hear other people and vice versa until I turned off Mirage

[solemn ridge]

CustomSounds had this forced to true before and I set it to false

I wonder if that was doing it

When it was true

[deft cape]

dont see why it would affect vc if it does since i dont interact with vc, except for recording but that's error handled

[solemn ridge]

Cus it states when true it causes issues with some mods

So maybe it was just causing problems

[deft cape]

i meant for mirage throwing exceptions

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I find it likely it could be that option in Bepin Config

If it's not Mirage, some people have said Mirage doesn't do it at all

I will definitely have to see later if it's fixed now

and it's very likely LCSoundTool/CustomSounds did it before, then I got unlucky and got the bug from SoundAPI last night before it was fixed lol

That doesn't explain @halcyon stratus having it only happen from Mirage though

[halcyon stratus]

Could be a weird mod incompatibility, but I find it strange that this all seems to be happening because of different reasons and without any updates to Mirage that might've caused the problem?

[solemn ridge]

Yeah it's strange

Tbf here's my cureent mod list

Imagine if it's a conflict with Boombox_Sync_Fix

[worthy helm]

Yep, only happened to me once I switched to Mirage which added 3 dependencies, and I uninstalled MEO and Skinwalkers. Probably another mod conflict but I was stable and fine before the change.

[solemn ridge]

XD

[halcyon stratus]

Why morecompany and advanced company?

[solemn ridge]

MoreCompany for the cosmetics, AdvancedCompany prevents it from waking

My friends like the default cosmetics from MoreCompany

otherwise I would remove it

[halcyon stratus]

I've been getting a lot of dissonance heap overload warnings lately too though (which seems to be causing lag), which wasn't occuring like a couple days ago as well

[solemn ridge]

Though I wouldn't be surprised if MoreCompany somehow is causing issues despite being prevented from waking I've seen a ton of issues with it being reported after it's 1.8 update

so maybe I'll nuke it

[worthy helm]

Yeah I've been hearing that too

[solemn ridge]

I'd love for a mod to be made that just includes the cosmetics from MoreCompany

[ancient moth]

so

should you have the skinwalker mod installed with this

or like whats the deal

it acts the same but everyone hears the same thing?

[remote iris]

yes

so u dont need skinwalkers

but some people are reporting issues (im not included so idk)

test it out and see

also if u want it excatcly like skinwalkers u have to edit the config

if u need my help doing that then just ask away

[ancient moth]

yes i do

[remote iris]

Run the game with mod and load the config first

[ancient moth]

done

[remote iris]

Ah that was quick so now go in and scroll and find natural spawn and enable that

And make the spawnondeath chance to 0

Also enable any creature u want

U can also make the time in between voice mimicking voicelines bigger than and smaller by default its 7000-12000 ms aka 7-12 secs

I think skinwalkers is like 40 secs

Ill check

[solemn ridge]

I set non mimics to be 8000-15000

Just cus I felt the duration by default was too long

[remote iris]

Also u can make the voice clips delete every game instead of round so it becomes more like skinwalkers

[ancient moth]

thanks for the help

would this work with maskedenemyoverhaul?

[remote iris]

I would suggest getting the maskedenemyoverhaul fork

So u can use the compatability config they have

So it wont conflict with mirage

[ancient moth]

oh nice

what spawn rarity do you think would be good

[misty hill]

wait i had that too, wasnt foggy on march but was for others

[fading sapphire]

@deft cape Started a new save, I died to a parkour jump so I think I got turned into a masked, and in the previous day my friend died to a baboon hawk and became a masked so now we can't use the teleporter in this session, don't worry about the names I think that happens if you don't fiddle with it before someone joins, using openbodycams so I think if anything that could mess with assigned players and masked deaths? I recall that mod putting in some code to stop bodycams going onto masked, so maybe this conflicts in some way?

[deft cape]

not possible at all for naudio, like i said if the bug comes from mirage, it's mirage itself

naudio doesnt touch unity at all so it's just impossible

[deft cape]

thanks for the logs, i just got home actually so ill be testing things tonight

[fading sapphire]

If it's any help I died on day 1

i'm gonna put my money on something up with openbodycams doing something to not have a bodycam on a masked and this turning dead players into masked 😅

[deft cape]

did this ever happen to you in v1.0.13 as well?

[fading sapphire]

I can't recall only just started playing with the masked on death option

[deft cape]

is there a way i can try to replicate this behaviour

[solemn ridge]

Yeah that's when I thought maybe UniTask or Barchlib but I think you confirmed those should be fine too

[deft cape]

yeah those arent possible to either

which is why im trying to confirm if it is from mirage itself

since the dependencies have no chance of causing anything

[solemn ridge]

It would have to be since some people like @halcyon stratus have experienced it without stuff like LCMaxSoundsFix, LCSoundTool, or CustomSounds

[maiden peak]

Someone reported this issue with TMLC as well, TMLC just barely added mirage too

[deft cape]

at this rate it might actually be then

but i still have no idea how to test it

since it works fine for me

[solemn ridge]

Play with a group, should happen after a few games if it's gonna reproduce

[maiden peak]

it could also be a weird incompatibility

[solemn ridge]

That too

[maiden peak]

They said if they get the issue again they'll grab logs

and I'll report back here if that happens

[solemn ridge]

what is TMLC?

[deft cape]

i already do though, it's completely fine for us

[solemn ridge]

I don't use that I don't think lol

[maiden peak]

TheMostLethalCompany, the 3rd most downloaded modpack

[solemn ridge]

Yeah it might be fine for me now

[maiden peak]

with the other two being a moons pack and a cosmetic pack

so basically the largest content modpack

[solemn ridge]

Ah yeah I don't use Thunderstore mod packs

I create my own modpack

[maiden peak]

nice

You should try a few, they're pretty cool

especially with all the time that's gone into config / balance changes

I personally try several modpacks and grab the mods I like

thats how i discovered GeneralImprovements which replaced like 11 of my mods

[solemn ridge]

I like QualityCompany for the held items value feature

Don't care for it's other bloat though

[maiden peak]

like scanning someone's item shows you its value?

or it shows what you're holding's value?

[solemn ridge]

Yeah it'll show the value of what you're holding on the hotbar

It's nice

[maiden peak]

oh that is nice

generalImprovements basically has about 40 of those small improvements

many of which can replace other mods

[solemn ridge]

For compat with AC you have to disable ShowTotalScrapUI

I also disabled the terminal additions cus I found them to be buggy

and EnableNetworking cus it caused me to not be able to back out of a game when set to true

[maiden peak]

oh thats cursed

[solemn ridge]

Yeah a bunch of people told me to leave it on

☠️

and I found out that was a bad idea

XD

[lunar quest]

is it possible to make naturally spawning masks not talk with the voice of the person it’s confronting

for example my friend Adam ran into a masked that naturally spawned and it was using his voice (I was spectating so I sound hear the voice but he couldn’t since we have mute local on)

but is it possible for it to use someone else’s voice when running into the same person, instead of just not speaking when localmute is on

[dark brook]

skinwalker does that

but it also doesn't sync clips

[deft cape]

not sure if it's something i'll add tbh, i'll think about it

[lunar quest]

what if I give you puppy dog eyes

[deft cape]

gonna look at this issue later actually cuz the vc bug is the highest priority, trying to see if it comes from mirage

only issue is that i'm still not able to replicate the issue on my end

always works fine for whatever reason

[deft cape]

wait what input lag, like mirage causes your inputs to feel delayed?

[solemn ridge]

It does but very slightly

[deft cape]

wish i had a lower end pc to test on

cuz for things like that i just can't even tell since my pc just hides it from me i guess 😭

[solemn ridge]

I only noticed when I tested Skinwalkers and MEO temporarily tbh

[deft cape]

i do wish to address performance issues though

is this like a constant thing, it always feels delayed with mirage installed?

were you able to figure anything out with this

i just tried running TheMostLethalCompany's modpack to try and get the vc issue, and it doesn't happen for me

[lofty sorrel]

Nothing other than the errors I posted. The big issue just doesn't seem to occur, I'm not sure why there was such an uptick in reports of it, but to me it just doesn't seem like the issue exists anymore

[deft cape]

yeah idk i'm just confused at this point

flood of bug reports that everyone thinks is coming from mirage

but not once am i able to replicate the error

even with the same profile codes

[lofty sorrel]

I think it probably was a multiplayer only thing, but maybe there was some mod that slipped under the cracks, got updated, and the issue's gone

Idk

We'll see if anyone comes back with the issue again

[deft cape]

sounds good thanks again for all the help ❤️

[lofty sorrel]

Yea np

Just want to deceive my friends

[solemn ridge]

I just found out apparently the Intro Speech Extended mod breaks a bunch of shit

I removed that

@lofty sorrel you may wanna remove that from the old version of my modpack you're using

[deft cape]

this is what the min/max distance for the audio source is set to

i copied these values off of the audio source used for vc on players

[solemn ridge]

I will say the thing I've noticed about Mirage is sometimes mimiced voices are quieter compared to Skinwalkers

Idk why

[fading sapphire]

Also i'm doing some tests on that teleport thing

Finally using that local multiplayer script you sent over

[deft cape]

that's something i've noticed in my own playtests as well, idk if the fix will be to just force the audio to be louder.
pretty much anything i can copy from the vc audio source is being used in mine now, so i might have to just force it to be louder

but that's for later, need to figure out whether or not the vc bug is from mirage first. just sucks that i'm still not able to replicate even that

[deft cape]

oh you mean autostart + lc_launch_profile?

[solemn ridge]

It's very possible it was Intro Speech Extended in my case

[fading sapphire]

Yeah or at least the lc_launch_profile bit

[solemn ridge]

I just learned it breaks the game in a lot of ways

[fading sapphire]

Impostor

[deft cape]

can you send the thunderstore link for that? just want to take a look

i can't find it for whatever reason

[deft cape]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[solemn ridge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ASmolBoy/Intro_Company_Speech_Extended_Remix/

Idk for sure but it might be a safe guess

I had a lot of problems with people joining my lobby and stuff the other day too

[lofty sorrel]

I was only using it for testing purposes anyway, don't have it anymore

[solemn ridge]

I thought it was something else

[fading sapphire]

Here's the updated log without disableUnityLogs

Exact same happened, he died, became masked and then was unable to be teleported

I'll get a neat clip of it

[solemn ridge]

Tbf I couldn't teleport masked players when using MEO either

[deft cape]

oh yeah sounds good, i'm just gonna have to take a look at this teleport bug later on

[solemn ridge]

I think it's a side effect of mimickingplayer or whatever

Not really a Mirage specific bug

[deft cape]

could be, since in the vanilla game you don't get mimicked unless you're dead

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

[fading sapphire]

Let me also confirm first barch

I want to make sure this is a mirage issue or if it is an openbodycams/mirage issue

[solemn ridge]

I remember trying to teleport a team mate's body after they became masked before using MEO and it wouldn't teleport them

[solemn ridge]

Has nothing to do with OBC

I had it without OBC

Openbodycams doesn't touch the teleporter

I think it's just a side effect of the MimickingPlayer behavior MEO and Mirage use

people just can't be teleported while they're a mimic

I don't really think it's a bug per se more it's just how the game handles that flag

[deft cape]

it could still be potentially patched out

i just need to see how the teleporter works

[solemn ridge]

Yeah maybe

I just know MEO has had that problem for a long time lol and I never thought anything of it

[deft cape]

but you're most likely right that it's how vanilla handles it

[solemn ridge]

But seeing that Mirage has it too it only makes sense for it to really be how the game handles that flag

[flat tiger]

We have this error when a null exception log occurs in the masked ai code and repeats it

[fading sapphire]

Yeah just confirmed that it has nothing to do with OBC, however looking at these logs I think it is still counting the player to be a dead body after conversion to masked, instead of an actual player again when reaching orbit

[thorn turtle]

Hello , I don't know if anyone experienced this bug , we were 4player on a map using mirage and some other mod , and mimic were travelling between game with us. At the end they were like 10 mimic on rend beside the dungeon entrance.

[thorn turtle]

and we can still hear them talk on the ship from space

[fading sapphire]

this was from 3 teleport tests

So each try gave this big block of logs

[thorn turtle]

the teleporter bug mentionned above was also a thing

[deft cape]

mirage only tries to deactivate the player's dead body if it already exists

so not entirely sure if that comes from mirage or whether it's just the vanilla game

but i'll keep it in mind when i investigate it later

[deft cape]

still not confirmed whether or not this is coming from mirage. there's been reports from others of masked enemies (and eyeless dogs) staying into future rounds.
unfortunately i haven't been able to replicate the issue a single time so i still can't figure out whether it's from mirage or not

[trim anchor]

bug replication :disappear:

[deft cape]

😭

[fading sapphire]

Aw man qwbarch I feel sorry for you, these bugs seem relentless 😅

[thorn turtle]

i also had a dog in the company moon

but on the dog save there wasnt any extra mimic

[deft cape]

if there's any extra masked enemies spawning, there's probably another mod also doing it

mirage by itself doesn't have issues with spawning extra masked enemies AFAIK

[thorn turtle]

i can send you my mod list if you want we were all using the same modS

[lofty sorrel]

Do you have MaskedEnemyOverhaul

[thorn turtle]

No , mods were :morecompany/lethal progression /mirage . one of us was using lethal resonance but its a client sided thing

[lofty sorrel]

Only those?

[thorn turtle]

ya

[lofty sorrel]

Now that's interesting

Has this happened multiple sessions, or just the once?

And if you have the log, please send that

[thorn turtle]

can i find them afterward?

multiple sessions yes

i think almost all sessions we tried since last update

[lofty sorrel]

As long as you haven't started the game again since the last session it happened, then yes you can still find the log

[thorn turtle]

so i have them just gotta find where they hide

[lofty sorrel]

It's just in the BepInEx folder

[thorn turtle]

logoutput?

[lofty sorrel]

Yep

[thorn turtle]

i cant send them here because of the weight

[lofty sorrel]

How big is it?

[thorn turtle]

113mb

[lofty sorrel]

Could you upload it to mediafire, google drive, dropbox etc?

[deft cape]

i'm considering not even looking at the vc bug until someone gives me a reproducible way to test it

im kinda just wasting time trying to get the bug to happen to me

[thorn turtle]

actually going to wetransfer

[lofty sorrel]

Like you said, it's unlikely to be your mod anyway. Unless someone brings up a big that involves error messages or things you directly affect it isn't really worth putting so much effort into it

[thorn turtle]

actually the bug is avoidable by relaunching the session each flight

https://we.tl/t-mCYOR1JR6R

[deft cape]

yeah time to just look at the ones with error logs instead from now on

[lofty sorrel]

I honestly think everyone should always have logging on, especially if they're going to report bugs

[thorn turtle]

Sorry to bring more trouble , was just here to see if there are any explanations at first

[lofty sorrel]

It's all good, least there's a log. And because you have so few mods it's much easier to deal with

[deft cape]

nah you're fine, i appreciate the bug report and log @thorn turtle

[deft cape]

yep honestly at this rate i might just not even bother looking if there's no logs

[thorn turtle]

i wasnt using myself lethal resonance so that shounldnt be a mess

[deft cape]

100% not from lethal ressonance

[lofty sorrel]

LR shouldn't affect anything like this, no

[thorn turtle]

i mean to read the log more clearfully 🙂

[lofty sorrel]

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Component.CompareTag (System.String tag) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:0)
EnemyAI.EnableEnemyMesh (System.Boolean enable, System.Boolean overrideDoNotSet) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:0)
StartOfRound.SetPlayerSafeInShip () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:0)
AudioReverbTrigger.ChangeAudioReverbForPlayer (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB pScript) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:0)
AudioReverbTrigger.OnTriggerStay (UnityEngine.Collider other) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:0)

I saw this one when I was testing with B1ade as well

[deft cape]

ah nice it has the same error, this one is probably from mirage

[thorn turtle]

btw i changed some of the setting on mirage

[deft cape]

@lofty sorrel you said it seems to only happens in online mode though right

[lofty sorrel]

I at least never experienced it while testing alone or with LAN, never got any errors for that matter

[deft cape]

that's super odd, time to look into it

[lofty sorrel]

It was an error that I could see when it began, I'll explain exactly what happened in that game in a moment

There it is

[deft cape]

@thorn turtle which version are you using?

[thorn turtle]

that the config that was used

last one from 2days ago

[lofty sorrel]

Says 1.0.14

Out of interest, you said a MouthDog also had issues. Did the MouthDog do anything? Or was it just standing still

[thorn turtle]

downloaded it yesterday actually and it was saying updated 15hours ago on thundermod

standing still

attacked once where nobody was standing then freeze

[deft cape]

wait...

did anyone happen to DC when this happens?

[thorn turtle]

No

[deft cape]

damn that rules out what i thought might've been an issue

[thorn turtle]

we were trying to sell item and nothing happened , we flight off the company and continue as normal

the dog wasnt here after the flight btw

Feel free to PM if more question , time to sleep

[ancient moth]

wait so if i have natural spawn on in mirage , should i have masked enemy reworkfork "dont touch maskedenenemy.mimickingplayer" true or false

[lofty sorrel]

true

[ancient moth]

thanks

[thorn turtle]

the last day of the log i sent you they were like 6-7 fake mimics

[lofty sorrel]

Which day did you first start seeing the extra Masked?

What planet

[thorn turtle]

mhh i relaunched the game a lot , it happened each time a player became 'masked" not depending on planet

it hapenned on offense , assurance and rend

[deft cape]

debby what was the way you were able to replicate this issue with all the other profiles? you're more familiar with it than me rn LOL

[thorn turtle]

and the day 3 of 3 they all additioned

like day 1 a player died alone , so mimic spawn , day 2 the mimic was still there ,3 dead hapenned with spawn

3 on 3 they were all there

last was on rend

[deft cape]

is this only on SpawnOnPlayerDeath? and not natural spawns? (asking about natural spawns despite it being set to false in the config, in case you have a spawn control mod that overrides it)

[lofty sorrel]

I got that error message with B1ade on TinyDerp's profile code with MEOF zombie mode turned on. We were on the SCP planet. I got the error message whenever I was on the ship, but not inside the ship. Inside the ship, the error stopped spamming. Off the ship completely, error stopped spamming. It only occurred when I was on the railings of the ship, and the Masked seemed entirely unable to reach me

[deft cape]

zombie mode as in zombie arms? that's really odd, that shouldn't conflict

gonna take a look at it again just in case

[lofty sorrel]

Nono like zombie apocalypse

[deft cape]

OH

[lofty sorrel]

To force more Masked to spawn

[deft cape]

im gonna take a look at that feature rn

[lofty sorrel]

Also they don't have any spawn control mods, unless LethalProgression has something like that idk

[thorn turtle]

i can maybe send my full games files for reproducing if you need to , tomorrow let me know

[lofty sorrel]

That would probably be helpful yeah, what timezone are you?

[thorn turtle]

CET

[lofty sorrel]

Ah okay so like 3am rn

I'll ask you again in the afternoon

[deft cape]

debby are you free to try and test whatever profile it was from earlier in online mode

[lofty sorrel]

I can be yeah

[thorn turtle]

im sending you the google drive link but it isnt uploaded yet i think , link in PM

[lofty sorrel]

018dbce9-585d-e578-2baf-7ab6fb9b24f2

[deft cape]

sounds good ill try testing this later as well

[deft cape]

downloading

gonna send you my steam friend code in dms

[lofty sorrel]

I don't remember if I'd already made the apocalypse change in this code yet, might have to do that

[deft cape]

ah ill double check

[lofty sorrel]

Oh good I had

[deft cape]

nicee, alright im loading

@lofty sorrel you wanna host? since you're more familiar with what to try to replicate

whoa

this modpack is making me lag really bad

like 10-20fps kinda feeling

[lofty sorrel]

It's loading music

Will stop in a moment

[deft cape]

ah

oh you're right

[lofty sorrel]

Just waited for Masked to spawn and then ran back to the ship with them following

[deft cape]

kk

console says one just spawned

gotta look for where it is now

[lofty sorrel]

There

Spamming now

[deft cape]

i need to get it in the ship for it to not despawn right

[lofty sorrel]

Idk about that bug, I just know this is how to reproduce the error

[deft cape]

ah

this is already huge for me, first time i've seen it for myself in game

seems like the error might be related to why they can't seem to climb this ladder as well

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah something navigation related for sure

When you step inside the ship fully the error should stop

[deft cape]

wow you're right

only spams when i leave the ship again

interesting

alright i'm gonna try and see if this happens in LAN again just in case, even though you did mention it only worked in online for you

[lofty sorrel]

SetPlayerSafeInShip, idk where that comes from

[deft cape]

yeah taking a look

fuck i wanted to do close the ship doors to see if it triggered something but it already ran out of time

alright that's enough for the online test, i think i've got a lead for now

huge thanks again as always 😄

[trim anchor]

hugee

[lofty sorrel]

Alright cool, maybe try having one player on the railings as the other one takes off, so one player is having the error spam and the other can take off. If you can get the error in LAN

Oh also

This happens when you close the door

And when you open

[deft cape]

yeah i specifically wanted to test the door cuz SetPlayerSafeInShip has a condition for it there

but the main issue seems to come from EnableEnemyMesh

[lofty sorrel]

It seems to continue spamming the original error regardless of the door

[deft cape]

definition:```csharp
public virtual void EnableEnemyMesh(bool enable, bool overrideDoNotSet = false)
{
int layer = ((!enable) ? 23 : 19);
for (int i = 0; i < skinnedMeshRenderers.Length; i++)
{
if (!skinnedMeshRenderers[i].CompareTag("DoNotSet") || overrideDoNotSet)
{
skinnedMeshRenderers[i].gameObject.layer = layer;
}
}
for (int j = 0; j < meshRenderers.Length; j++)
{
if (!meshRenderers[j].CompareTag("DoNotSet") || overrideDoNotSet)
{
meshRenderers[j].gameObject.layer = layer;
}
}
}

idk if a mod is failing to replace the model but that's my assumption for now so that's what i'll test for next

[lofty sorrel]

Sapienzouz's modpack is only MoreCompany, LethalProgression and Mirage, and their log has all of these errors, so those three are the ones to look at I think (lethalprogression probably has nothing to do with it)

[deft cape]

if lethal progression likely has nothing to do with it, it's likely just mirage itself

so maybe it doesn't have to do with replacing the model then

omg was i on voice activity the whole time during that test

i'm normally on push to talk so i didn't even know

im so sorry 😭

[lofty sorrel]

You were, I just turned your volume down dw

[deft cape]

oh yeah your hunch was right, it for whatever reason only happens on online mode

[deft cape]

but the this one still happens (infrequently)

so i can at least test for that on LAN

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape Happy to report no vc issues tn so I definitely removed the mod that was responsible

[lofty sorrel]

Hate to toot my own horn rn, but

In LAN

[deft cape]

good to know, although i wonder if it's also possible to just be a coincidence that it hasn't happened yet

[deft cape]

oddly enough didn't happen to me earlier, but that'll make it easier for me to test then 😂

[lofty sorrel]

Importantly it only occurred when a player was in the middle of being turned by a Masked

[solemn ridge]

Don't think so tbh, it usually would have happened by now

[trim anchor]

What modlist ya'll using rn I wanna try helping to replicate this

[lofty sorrel]

Personally I just got MoreCompany, LethalProgression and Mirage all default

[deft cape]

oh yeah i thought you were getting your console spammed, if it was happening like once per masked enemy, that showed up for me as well

[trim anchor]

okie dokie

[deft cape]

ah ic, i wonder if anyone else with the vc issue was using that mod as well

[deft cape]

tbh i think we're good for now since i'm able to replicate it on my own now, appreciate it though ❤️

[trim anchor]

oh shit nice

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape bugged mimic of me

Missing cosmetics

[deft cape]

can you send logs

was that right out of a vent?

[solemn ridge]

Idk

[deft cape]

send logs when you're able to

might be related to what we're debugging rn

[solemn ridge]

I don't have the console on cus I'm streaming, also I had a mimic of someone who left earlier spawn and kill me

Wearing an orange suit

[lofty sorrel]

It spammed only for the player left alive while the second player was getting turned by the third player on the railing outside the door, and only as the ship was leaving. My suspicion is that it occurred a lot on the SCP map because the navigation for the Masked to get onto the ship was breaking, meaning the Masked were unable to reach the player, and then they just stopped trying whenever the player entered the ship completely because then the Masked treat it as if the door has shut and they give up, running back inside the facility. The error only spams on vanilla maps when the ship is leaving and or while a Masked is being turned because they are again in a situation in which they can't reach the player and there isn't navigation set up for it

[lofty sorrel]

Do you have logging on at all? Like can you send one later on

[deft cape]

can't really work off of that then 😭
just gonna hope it's related to the bug debby and i are looking at rn

[deft cape]

ah i was only looking at one console so that might've been it.
i removed mirage as a test and while it doesn't have the same errors, they still fail to pathfind

so currently in the process of just disabling other mods to get some clues

[lofty sorrel]

Honestly try just having all gone except morecompany, mirage and a map like scp that we know prevents pathfinding for the Masked

[deft cape]

ah true

[solemn ridge]

Wow I found a bugged one outside

Something must randomly cause their ai to break

[deft cape]

this bug is almost definitely from mirage

i'll be spending all my time figuring it out until it's fixed

it really looks like the same symptoms as what debby has been investigating

[stark rampart]

I wonder if MaskedAIRevamp somewhat influence in it

[lofty sorrel]

Still a mystery to me how pathfinding bugs can lead to all of this nonsense, but heyho that's game dev

[deft cape]

i feel like it's not from this, TMLC doesn't have this mod but they have the issue as well

[deft cape]

coding in general 😭

[deft cape]

i don't think it is

this one seems like it's coming from mirage itself

i just need to figure out what

[lofty sorrel]

I don't think Lunxara has MaskedAIRevamp, and we didn't either, so it seems unrelated

[stark rampart]

If I had to make a guess, probably an issue on how they spawn? Idk lol

[deft cape]

yeah idk yet

[lofty sorrel]

I was getting a lot of this if it means anything

[Warning: Unity Log] Failed to create agent because it is not close enough to the NavMesh

[deft cape]

@lofty sorrel one thing ij ust confirmed though, spawning via DanceTools and whatnot doesn't trigger the error, so the only way to test really is to sit there until it spawns

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape So my friend said before the mimic got stuck it was moving lightning fast killing people

If that's any info to go off of

[deft cape]

doesn't ring any bells by itself

[lofty sorrel]

No MaskedAIRevamp right?

[solemn ridge]

So definitely ai breaking

Nope

[lofty sorrel]

Gonna put this here just in case as well, I alwasy ignore it cause idk what it means at all, and I feel like I've seen it in vanilla but I can't be sure

[Warning: Unity Log] HeadMaskTragedy is disabled! Netcode for GameObjects does not support spawning disabled NetworkBehaviours! The RandomPeriodicAudioPlayer component was skipped during spawn!

[deft cape]

i ignore that as well since it's from vanilla

don't think that means anything even here tbh

[lofty sorrel]

Ah right nvm then

That's all from me tonight I think, it's very late (or early?) so I gotta go... sleep?

GMT timezone and all that

[deft cape]

yepp ty again!

[lofty sorrel]

Before I go btw, this is how I knew which log file was spamming the error lmao

[deft cape]

smart

[twilit monolith]

Is this a custom moon? I might know what the issue is with the ladder 👀

[deft cape]

yeah it's the scp map, the masked enemies never go onto the ship

although i do suspect it's my code still

unless you think there might be a different cause 🤔

actually nvm i forgot i already disabled mirage and it still doesn't climb the ladder

[twilit monolith]

Unless you're modifying the masked's navmesh areamask properties, it's more likely that they don't have an off mesh link on the ladders labeling them as a climbable spot, so the masked simply don't have a path to navigate onto the ship

Use vanilla maps if you can

just for checking baseline compatibility

[deft cape]

oh yeah it's fine on vanilla maps, the errors seem to come from modded maps so far

[deft cape]

one part of my code that was meant to fix a different bug looks a bit suspect so that's what i'm gonna test next 😬

so far though, i disabled MoreScreams (since it was erroring) and for whatever reason, this gets rid of the error

but i'm pretty sure the error is still not from MoreScreams

it's an incompatibility created from mirage is my hunch so gotta test that next

[twilit monolith]

Just from a quick peek at MS I see some Dissonance patching, do you also patch Dissonance?

[deft cape]

only DissonanceComs.Start, but that shouldn't cause issues

gonna take a quick peek at MS as well then actually

[twilit monolith]

Pre or postfix? Bc they have a postfix in theirs, but I don't think it's on Start?

[deft cape]

postfix, but it's only to subscribe to the dissonance microphone subscriber

[twilit monolith]

Yea it's VoicePlayback, nvm

[deft cape]

although either way, it shouldn't be from MoreScreams

no updates since 2 months ago

so it probably is an incompatibility with mirage that comes from what i suspect to be the issue

which im about to test out

[worthy helm]

I haven't had any issues whatso ever after I changed back to MEO/Skinwalkers. Sorry this whole thing's got you stressin but for me atleast and in my modpack it was Mirage.

Hope its figured out! goodluck

[deft cape]

@worthy helm did you happen to have this installed? lunxara said she removed this and it seems to have gotten rid of the vc issue so far

also just an fyi what i'm figuring out rn isn't related to the vc bug, i have no leads on that so i can't really fix that

[worthy helm]

Nope, I know LR took that remix out because smolboy wanted to release that standalone but I never installed that one sorry 🤷

[deft cape]

oof thanks for the details

[deft cape]

if anything this probably just confirms it's mirage

sucks that i can't replicate the issue still

but i'll figure it out eventually when there's enough logs on it

[deft cape]

alright this should be fixed

i just need to test it a bit more to confirm it before i push an update

[rain mountain]

i've been OOTL, has the log spamming this been fixed?

[deft cape]

what i'm fixing right now might be related to it

but still running tests so no update tonight

[fleet rune]

Does this replace skin walker?

[deft cape]

yes, but you should probably wait until the next update before trying

there's an issue that i'm currently trying to address

[timber notch]

Dang I’ve been busy the last couple of days so I haven’t been around

Sorry to hear that you haven’t solved the issue yet

From what I can tell you have confirmed it’s a Mirage issue, though?

[deft cape]

this one? i think it's a mod incompatibility since i don't run into it on its own, but i am trying to fix it on my end

also regarding enemies not despawning in between rounds, that's definitely a mod incompatibility

it seems like if multiple mods try to deactivate the same dead enemy, it causes issues

and if one enemy fails to despawn, the rest of the enemies don't despawn

this was discovered by dinogolfer from TMLC

[timber notch]

(For the record I mean the broken masked issue)

[deft cape]

and regarding the vc bug, well, still no leads on that and i'm still not entirely sure if it's mirage or just another mod incompatibility (seems to work fine for me and many others, so it's more likely a mod incompatiblity)

[upbeat compass]

when was that being reported?

[deft cape]

like it getting stuck?

[upbeat compass]

seemed like loaforcsSoundAPI had an issue the other night where i incorrectly disabled some audiosources 😭

[timber notch]

Yeah, like the broken unmoving masked

[deft cape]

it's been at least a couple days now, but didn't you confirm the issue isn't from soundapi though?

[deft cape]

i can't replicate that issue but it could be related to my fix, we'll have to see

[upbeat compass]

i messed a little with some code and it seemed to work locally then

[solemn ridge]

Nah SoundAPI had a bug with 0.0.3 affecting vc

[deft cape]

wait didn't the vc issue still happen while you were streaming earlier? @solemn ridge or do i remember wrong

[timber notch]

Dang, still haven’t been able to replicate it? Unfortunate.

[solemn ridge]

I think the other mod breaking it was probably Intro Speech Extended

I had some weirdness happen on stream for sure, still unsure of vc bugs though

the main bugs we had were being unable to teleport my friend and the masked breaking

[deft cape]

ayyobee said that the vc issue stopped happening after removing mirage, so i'm still a bit alerted by it, even if soundapi might've had some sort of issue with vc

[deft cape]

yeah sadly not

[solemn ridge]

Did you manage to figure out why Mirage is breaking teleporting some people btw?

[deft cape]

i think you ran into the issue where they'd get stuck as well right?

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

[deft cape]

nope, i'll have to look at that later

[upbeat compass]

i've had that issue without mirage, is it confirmed here?

[solemn ridge]

Wait really? That issue only ever started after adding Mirage for me

[deft cape]

well it's been impossible for me to replicate cuz it's never happened to me once, but i've seen people (including on other servers) say that it's likely caused by mirage

even after playing for hours i've never once had the issue

[solemn ridge]

We would teleport my friend, and on her end and everyone else's end she wouldn't be teleported

[upbeat compass]

in my case it was we had some weird desync issues with the ship monitor and it caused a lot of problems

[solemn ridge]

But I saw her on the teleporter shaking going "Teleport me!!!"

[deft cape]

oh wait i misread, i thought you were talking about the vc issue for a sec

for the teleporter issue, well, my group and i are noobs so we don't have a teleporter 😂 😂

[solemn ridge]

No desync issue with the ship monitor for us cus AC doesn't have that

[dark brook]

oh I had that, but I also had that before mirage

[solemn ridge]

Ah odd

[dark brook]

but sometimes it works

and I'm using outdated mods so

[deft cape]

i'll look into seeing if there's a fix for that after the main issues are figured out

[dark brook]

can't pinpoint it on anything honestly

[deft cape]

(like masked enemies randomly getting stuck, or if the vc issue is from mirage)

[dark brook]

if anyone knows what else breaks teleporters rn hmu

[deft cape]

i'll look into the teleporter thing later on

even if it's a vanilla bug with how mimicking players work

[solemn ridge]

inb4 Lethallib lol

[dark brook]

I def teleported mimics into the ship with mirage...

[dark brook]

[dark brook]

but that was before the last update

[solemn ridge]

LethalLib seems to like breaking shit XD

[deft cape]

like instead of the player itself?

[dark brook]

ye

but last time I had this issue it was very inconsistent with replication

legit had a case where everyone could be teleported but 1 guy

*that was wayyyy before mirage I should've clarified lmao

[solemn ridge]

Always that one guy causing problems lol

[dark brook]

but if we're talking mirage then I was able to tp turned people before the last update, haven't tested after

if that helps

[deft cape]

wait so the last update broke it again?

[dark brook]

idk...

[deft cape]

mb i think im just misunderstanding u LOL

[dark brook]

nah im just saying that it def worked

but as of right now I have not tested that

[deft cape]

if it works with mirage by itself then another mod is probably overwriting the player's redirectToEnemy

but too early to say whether or not it's another mod causing it

could very well be from mirage

either way though i'm rewriting that part a bit so i'll just test the teleporter as wlel

[solemn ridge]

I still wonder what would randomly cause the masked ai to break, it's weird how in my case tonight we would have masked enemies move so far and then suddenly get stuck

[copper pilot]

Can u do mirage support for the Siren head mod? And Make it so it sounds like it comes from an Siren like some radio effect idk

[copper pilot]

?

[deft cape]

mirage already allows you to turn have voice playback on modded enemies via EnableModdedEnemies

[copper pilot]

I mean only Siren head

[deft cape]

well i'll eventually allow configuring per-modded enemy but not anytime soon

[copper pilot]

And is there a way to add a radio filter over the sound so it sounds like a siren?

[deft cape]

for now it'd probably easier to have the siren head author use mirage as a soft dependency directly

[copper pilot]

?

[deft cape]

yes but you'd have to ask the sirenhead author to do that

[deft cape]

i think that part might be caused by a bugfix that i did for a different issue, so i'm gonna revert it for the next update (and use a bandaid fix for that other issue instead)

still wanna do more testing before i release the next update though

but so far my tests seem pretty good locally at least

using the modpack that debby was testing on

[dark brook]

that's just masked

it's completely normal for them to just get all clamped up in one space and start stargazing

[solemn ridge]

No it is not

[upbeat compass]

thats vanilla yeah

[solemn ridge]

and when I would try to hit them it was like the game no longer registered them as being there

[fading sapphire]

I really doubt it, I run this mod and Mirage and haven't ran into this frozen AI issue that people have been reporting and we face quite a lot of masked

[dark brook]

well that's weird

[timber notch]

after days of work, you finally fix the masked bug
lethal company fans rejoice
within hours, mirage becomes the most downloaded mod
world peace is achieved
a few days later, v50 releases
you try mirage with it
tfw masked bug

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/InterestingThoughtfulJalapenoRaccAttack-sshkRfybXNW51OX_

Never had this happen until using Mirage btw lol

[fading sapphire]

Yeah but I was referring to MaskedAiRework

The mod by piggy

[solemn ridge]

Ah I haven't tried that one

[fading sapphire]

It's really good but still needs a bit of work, allows masked to interact a bit more like picking up items and having little personalities

[deft cape]

@solemn ridge oh yeah if i remember right, you said you normally have mask textures disabled, but these bugged ones have the texture on right?

[solemn ridge]

Yeah, the bugged ones also don't wear the cosmetics

But they wear the proper suit

[deft cape]

ok that might be related to the issue of enemies not despawning properly, which from what i can tell is a mod incompatibility issue that i'm trying to address right now

so hopefully after the next update that's fixed

[solemn ridge]

That doesn't explain how someone got turned into a mimic that one game and the person that got turned became a stuck mimic though

[deft cape]

true, idk anymore 😭

[solemn ridge]

I mean unless they died elsewhere and a mimic of them tried to spawn, but idk anymore

[deft cape]

yeah me neither

all good i'll try and tackle that next if the update doesn't fix it

[fleet rune]

Sorry never saw the response but does this replace skin walker?

[deft cape]

it does, but i recommend waiting until the next update. currently figuring out an issue

[misty hill]

is there a stable patch that you'd recommend to use until the new patch is out?

[lofty sorrel]

Newest is the most stable. In general though it's pretty stable, there's just a couple of specific situations in which Masked can break, but if you run ito any issues just rehost and it should all be fine

[misty hill]

👍

[solemn ridge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PoliteAbstruseRutabagaKevinTurtle-_mkXC8TQRfPHxcz- I will say I never had Mirage cause this for me XD this was after I went back to MEO and Skinwalkers last night lmfao

I boxxed like 4 mimics and it crashed after I boxxed a mimic of myself

Tbf that's the first time I've had the game crash like that in a while, pretty sure that's a rare issue caused by SkinwalkersExperimental

[potent hatch]

killing your body killed your soul

[solemn ridge]

XD

[twilit monolith]

@deft cape is it possible that LC just doesn't like you using F# coding?

[solemn ridge]

Hopefully you'll get a responce when barch is around again XD

[twilit monolith]

It just suddenly occurred to me 🤭

[solemn ridge]

It sounds like a possibility

[ancient moth]

does only the host need the config set or does everybody need it

the same one

[deft cape]

nah it's definitely not that haha

[solemn ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

XD

[lofty sorrel]

It's synced

[deft cape]

another programming language isnt gonna suddenly cause unity specific bugs

[solemn ridge]

I do hope the Masked getting stuck can be fixed

lol

[deft cape]

yeah pretty sure thats why ppl still use the original version

[solemn ridge]

Yeah the original causes the game to perform worse though

[deft cape]

yeah i still dont know what it's from since it doesnt happen when mirage is installed by itself for me

[rain mountain]

my best guess is either vanilla bug or MEO/MEOF

[solemn ridge]

MEO was not in my load order last night during this

It's not that

[deft cape]

it's definitely a mod conflict

[solemn ridge]

Also the problem doesn't happen with MEO

[rain mountain]

i only started noticing it after MEO came out, but it may just be because it makes the spawns more likely and thus makes the bug more likely

[solemn ridge]

Maybe you could check MEO's code? See how they manage to avoid it

Could be a fix you could migrate

Actually

[rain mountain]

MEO doesn't avoid this, though

[solemn ridge]

@stoic silo you have any idea how to fix this?

[solemn ridge]

MEO does not have this bug

Idk what you are talking about

[rain mountain]

it does

[solemn ridge]

It doesn't

[rain mountain]

????

[solemn ridge]

I've played with MEO for a long time and never experienced it

[rain mountain]

are you just gonna tell me that i actually haven't experienced this

[solemn ridge]

Happens only with Mirage

[rain mountain]

i have been experiencing this for months before mirage even came out

[solemn ridge]

Mod conflict on your end then

Never happened with my pack until Mirage was added

Lol

Weird

[deft cape]

probably just like it's a mod conflict for mirage

[rain mountain]

pretty much the only thing in common with our pack between then and now that could be affecting it is MEO

[deft cape]

cuz by itself it has no issues afaik

[solemn ridge]

It happened without MEO for me

I remove it entirely when using Mirage

[deft cape]

but eitber way i think ive fixed the conflict

[solemn ridge]

Ooh what was it?

[deft cape]

multiple mods were trying to deactivate the player's dead body

and that was causing massive issues it seems

[solemn ridge]

So update incoming?

[deft cape]

so i only deactivate if it hasnt been deactivated already

update tonight when i get home and test some more

[lofty sorrel]

When's tonight for you, tonight is now for me lmao

[vocal garnet]

I never had MEO when experienced this issue

[rain mountain]

curious to see if this fixes it, but like i said if it's not an MEO issue then i suspect this is just a bug with the vanilla game and MEO only exacerbates it by upping the spawn rate of masked

[lofty sorrel]

It sounds like it's an issue with any mod that would deactivate a player's body, which could potentially be a few different mods

[solemn ridge]

Or it's a bug with some mods, it's not vanilla if it doesn't happen only with Mirage installed

[lofty sorrel]

So the issue could occur without Mirage depending on the other mods you had

[rain mountain]

it doesn't only happen with mirage though. like i said this was happening for months before i had mirage

[solemn ridge]

That doesn't rule out a mod conflict as qwbarch said

[lofty sorrel]

If there are two mods that try to deactivate a body, that creates the issue, it's not about Mirage specifically

[solemn ridge]

If you were paying attention

[rain mountain]

i see, but not sure if i ever did have any mods like that. in any case i hope it is fixed

[solemn ridge]

You likely do it's just impossible to know which mods do it

[lofty sorrel]

Devs work in mysterious ways

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape I hope you can fix the issue where voices being mimiced are too quiet at times btw

[timber notch]

iirc we think the issue isn’t caused by Mirage, and think that I t’s a vanilla issue. Mirage just triggers the issue to happen.

[solemn ridge]

not vanilla, but caused by mods that do something they shouldn't

[timber notch]

or am I getting it mixed up with one of the other issues

[solemn ridge]

mods trying to deactivate a body

causes it

[timber notch]

okay I was thinking of the dog issue

[solemn ridge]

dog issue?

[timber notch]

bc where i had it with huntdown

Dogs spawning that can’t interact with the player

But they can move and try to attack

And it had some sort of connection/commonality with the masked bug

[solemn ridge]

That's an issue specific with Huntdown

Never had dogs do that in my game

[timber notch]

Nah some people were having it here too

[solemn ridge]

I had someone say they saw a spider bugging out last night but idk in what way

[lofty sorrel]

Someone had that issue with just Mirage, MoreCompany and LethalProgression

[deft cape]

this one is a known issue, was going to work on it but then the current "bugs" took my attention away from it sadly

oh wait fuck im stupid and forgot to clarify, the bugfix today is for what was occuring in the modpack debby was testing with, as well as the thing where monsters werent despawning properly

[deft cape]

actually dont need to go out anymore so ill be doing more tests soon

[solemn ridge]

Sooo may or may not fix the masked issue then

[deft cape]

yeah cuz idk how to even replicate it

never happened to me once

[solemn ridge]

Also btw, does Mirage have the same bug that MEO did that causes enemy spawn rates outside to go weird at times?

[timber notch]

Not being able to replicate something despite doing the exact same steps is the essence of software development i swear

[lofty sorrel]

Mirage doesn't affect spawn rates other than disabling them

[deft cape]

it shouldnt. if vanilla spawns are disabled mirage just removes them from the spawn pool.
if it's enabled it does nothing

[solemn ridge]

I had a bunch of dogs one game last night and trying to find out if that was Mirage or Vanilla

Okay good lol

[deft cape]

fr 😭

[deft cape]

that didnt despawn? yeah thats from the mod conflict thing i was talking about

[lofty sorrel]

The only way to replicate it atm seems to be just "try to play a game like normal with your friends"

[deft cape]

for whatever reason it causes the masked enemy to error while trying to despawn it

which in turn causes the rest of the enemies to not despawn

[timber notch]

That’s probably by I haven’t encountered it— haven’t played much modded with friends lately

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah it only seems to happen in online multiplayer, which is a ballache to bug test

[solemn ridge]

Usually you're confirmed to get it after a few runs on Rend with a group

That was how I got it

[deft cape]

and with specific mods (that i dont know of which ones)

[lofty sorrel]

After a few runs?

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

[timber notch]

So yeah I was right in remembering vanilla issue that just isn’t triggered in normal gameplay

[deft cape]

i dont play with a lot of mods so ive never seen any of these issues everyone talks about

[solemn ridge]

After a few games we started having stuck mimics

[lofty sorrel]

Hmmmm

[solemn ridge]

Watch it be LethalLib causing havoc and conflicting

XD

[lofty sorrel]

To the hyperfixation mines I go

[deft cape]

nah it's not lethallib

just a mod conflict between mirage and other mods trying to do the same thing

[solemn ridge]

Good thing to meme on though

[deft cape]

true LUL

[solemn ridge]

After all the issues LethalLib has had

[lofty sorrel]

Someone remind me to eat food in 40 minutes or so

I'm bug testing

[deft cape]

wait can i send you my updated mod debby

[lofty sorrel]

Yea

[timber notch]

Real

[deft cape]

aight gonna hop on my pc soon

[solemn ridge]

I will say @lofty sorrel if you want better load times with my old mod pack, update LethalResonance and remove LCSouldTool/CustomSounds and remove Absas and Inacraft cosmetics along with MoreCompany

[timber notch]

Sometimes I forget how fast LC boots up unmodded

[lofty sorrel]

Time is not my enemy. The bugs are

[solemn ridge]

MoreCompany increases load times cus AC has to pull the cosmetics from the DLL

Ik just figured it would make things nicer

[timber notch]

Turning off logneuter speeds things up immensely lol

[lofty sorrel]

The logs stay on during gaming

[solemn ridge]

AbsasCosmetics and Inacraft are a pain cus they're unoptimized cosmetic mods sadly

I recently swapped them out for BandaidsMegaCosmetics, Cute_Cosmetics, and NikkisCosmeticKingdom

They were the only 2 unoptimized ones I had

[rain mountain]

god it really is insane. goes from a few seconds to about a minute

[timber notch]

If you have logneuters stop all logs function (which seemingly doesn’t even stop the logs?) it’s even longer

iirc it was around two and a half minutes for me?

I timed it at one point

Around 55 seconds without it on

[deft cape]

something that stops logging, makes it take longer? 🤔

[timber notch]

Yep

[rain mountain]

i suspect it's because it takes a long time to parse the insane amount of configs that LogNeuter generates

[thorn turtle]

Hello , i hope my files helped you yesterday , have you found a fix?

did you get access to my game folder?

[deft cape]

i was going to run it after the modpack i was testing, but i already found what was causing a conflict with mirage and a different mod

so that should be fixed (or at least it wouldn't conflict with mirage) after the next update

just tested with debby just in case and it's looking good (for that modpack at least)

[flat tiger]

Hey, thanks for working on these bugs so quickly. Do you know which specific mods are causing conflicts for testing purposes?

[deft cape]

sadly not sure which other mod is trying to deactivate the body as well, or i would've contacted the mod author as well

[flat tiger]

Ok thanks

[fading sapphire]

This would make a good Starship Troopers quote

Was there any leads found to the frozen AI masked?

[deft cape]

not for the frozen ones sadly

[deft cape]

v1.0.15 is released:

• Fixed a mod conflict issue that caused enemies to not despawn properly
• SpawnOnPlayerDeath no longer spawns an enemy when CauseOfDeath = Gravity (this means dying to fall damage, and I believe dying to the ladder as well)
  • This was originally done by jarylc, but I tried alternatives to avoid having the mechanic completely ignore dying to gravity
  • This is probably the best band-aid fix for now for avoiding log spam when a masked enemy spawns inside a pit

Huge thanks to TheDebbyCase for their immense effort on bug-testing and figuring out a way to reproduce errors that others have been experiencing.
Thanks to dinogolfer from TMLC for figuring out why non-masked enemies weren't despawning as well, which helped me understand why this mod conflict was even happening.

Also thanks again to those mentioned in the previous v1.0.14 post for helping find/test issues as well: B1adeWo1f, Lunxara, Gorenebeda, and Thagnoth

[lofty sorrel]

If the enemies not despawning issue is to do with the deactivation of bodies thing we were talking about earlier then I imagine that might help with the main lost AI Masked issue, cause every time I got a broken Masked tonight after playing with friends the first error was always NullReferenceException with the Stack Trace starting with DeadBodyInfo.DeactivateBody

[deft cape]

oh that does sound related then

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape Another request to merge DissonanceLagFix into the mod btw, I honestly don't see a reason for Mirage not to when Skinwalkers merges it in lol

Since both mods do very similar things

[deft cape]

the reason i dont think it belongs to mirage is cuz everyone should have it anyways, whether or not you're using mirage or not

cuz thats a fix for dissonance itself

so even if ur not using mirage you'd still want it

eh at this point maybe i'll do it anyways

[solemn ridge]

You should, cus there's some confusion at times where people think Mirage already includes it because Skinwalkers includes it

[deft cape]

ok good point

ill add it next update then

whenever that is

[solemn ridge]

Could probably do that today tbh, would be a small update

[deft cape]

i wanna avoid pushing an update for such a small thing tbh

[solemn ridge]

Fair

[deft cape]

so ill bundle it into the next update when i have other changes

[solemn ridge]

I did readd Mirage to my list, hopefully the new fixes from today cause there to be less chaos

XD

[deft cape]

hopefully, lmk how that goes

[remote iris]

Les go

[remote iris]

To not despawn probably? Idk i use enemyfix maybe thats why i never got those issues idk

[deft cape]

nah it's a mod conflict, if another mod tries to deactivate the dead body as well it seemed to have caused issues for whatever reason

well tbf, that mod does also just prevent it from happening if it were to

[remote iris]

any luck uhhh fixing anything in mirage?

[deft cape]

yeah i fixed the mod conflict on mirage's side

[remote iris]

so it was the despawning thing?

[deft cape]

well at least from my tests, it seemed like if multiple mods try to deactivate the same dead body, it eventually also caused the masked enemy to not despawn properly

once a single enemy errors while despawning, the rest of them don't despawn

which is why you'd find things like mouthdogs not despawning

[remote iris]

that could explain why my modpack didn't have that bug ig

[deft cape]

yeah, but even without the enemyfix mod, if you don't have another mod that tries to deactivate the dead body then you were fine either way

which explains why i've never run into it

[remote iris]

i dont use mods like the mask off mod forgot the name

takethatmaskoff?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/876881663701942292/1208411877797924926/0217.mp4?ex=65e33042&is=65d0bb42&hm=a432a21f3c0415dc8cc8b734093bae84d11250fecb33a82642e6fbee931093ee&

look at this barch

[deft cape]

might've been a conflict but not confirmed, but either way it shouldn't conflict with mirage anymore

[autumn glen]

LMAOOO WHAT THE FUCK

[deft cape]

LMAOO

top tier voice actor moment right there

[remote iris]

ctower got the loudest ass screams in the group bro 😭

[deft cape]

thats the kinda teammate you want to make your games more fun 😂

[cyan siren]

I like the idea of having this mod replace MEO and Skinwalkers in my sessions with friends. As of right now is there any reason to use MEO/MEOF/Skinwalkers at the same time as mirage? Or does mirage completely do what those mods do?

[lofty sorrel]

No real reason to use Skinwalkers, MEO lets you control the spawnrates of Masked but other than that nothing else

[cyan siren]

Thanks @lofty sorrel say I don’t want the mirage feature of having them spawn on death but I do want to make sure they spawn frequently enough to see them at moons. I will need MEO for that? I’m also a little confused about how the MEOF config works with mirage better?

[fleet rune]

MEO?

[cyan siren]

Masked enemy overhaul

[fleet rune]

meof?

[cyan siren]

Masked enemy overhaul fork

[cyan siren]

Why should everyone have dissonancelagfix? I haven’t personally noticed any lag spikes but I’m not sure about those I’ve played with. If I’m not noticing a problem should I add this to my pack anyways?

[solemn ridge]

It fixes a lot of vc issues

Quite literally says what it does lol

[cyan siren]

Yeah I just don’t understand what the explanation means. Like idk what dissonancevoip is. Also haven’t ever experienced lag spikes so I haven’t seen an issue, but can’t speak for others I play with that have worse computers.

But it sounds to be helpful and could potentially help them if they are experiencing issues. One buddy is playing on an old Mac and has to manually install everything so I feel bad adding more mods for his sake lol but he’s still chugging along with 60 mods 👍

[trim anchor]

What's funny about this is that this is literally just a one line fix for the game lol 😅

[solemn ridge]

Lol Zeekerss

[deft cape]

yeah use MEOF with the compatibility option for mirage

[deft cape]

the vc system is dissonance, so everyone is using it when you play with lethal company. the issue is that when you do lag, it can cause it to lag further, which that mod fixes

it's not unique to voice mimicking, but i guess i might as well just include it anyways if people are expecting it to be built-in coming from skinwalkers

[cyan siren]

Thanks! In the meantime I’ll add it to the pack. It’s been interesting seeing how you guys bug fix and how quickly you work on fixing issues. Thanks for that

[solemn ridge]

Wonder if this change to LCMaxSoundsFix proves it's possible it could have affected vc before somehow

[deft cape]

I don't think it is, but not entirely sure either

[lofty sorrel]

You can look into other mods for spawn control as well, MEO isn't the only one

[deft cape]

indeed, AdvancedCompany is nice to have for spawn control (and just in general)

[fading sapphire]

Just confirming TP thing still happeneing when maskedondeath is enabled, also never knew the company also turned people into masked 😂

[lofty sorrel]

TP thing?

[deft cape]

i'll look into the TP thing probably next week, gonna take a break from bug fixes unless a major issue comes up that's urgent for me to fix

[fading sapphire]

Yeah if you die and get converted to a masked via the config setting you're unable to teleport until you die again

[lofty sorrel]

Oh interesting

[deft cape]

that's during the next round right? hmmm

[cyan siren]

So get rid of Skinwalkers, MEO and more company and just replace with Mirage and Advanced Company? Sounds like a plan

[deft cape]

yep, that's what i use at least 😄

[lofty sorrel]

That works yeah. There's a lot of customisation options for AC

[deft cape]

AC apparently sets you to have 3 item slows so you'll want to change it back to 4

[fading sapphire]

Also I was expecting an epic shovel battle

Poor lad didn't want to :(

[fading sapphire]

take care mate, you've done great work 🙏

[willow lily]

so THAT'S why I couldn't get anyone to teleport last time I played my modpack

I spent forever trying to figure out why

[rain mountain]

there's no navmesh on the company building so they can't move

[fading sapphire]

I was thinking that!

[deft cape]

i'll have to make them not spawn on the company building

[fading sapphire]

New knowledge every day

[rain mountain]

yeah iirc they usually can't spawn on the company building anyway. if you put on a mask you just die

[fading sapphire]

Also when I was typing he made an ultra loud sound

[rain mountain]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Kittenji/NavMeshInCompany/
this mod exists though

[fading sapphire]

Don't tab out of the game with voice activation 😂

[cyan siren]

Still recommend lcmaskfix with mirage? Does takethatmaskoff or maskedairevamp work well with mirage?

[lofty sorrel]

Unsure about TakeThatMaskOff, others should be fine though

[fading sapphire]

Absolutely use lcmaskedfix

the red screen bug got me and a friend 3 times in sessions 😭

[deft cape]

might just make it only spawn if someone has that mod then

[fading sapphire]

Also MaskedAIRevamp is great, I love that mod

A masked with a shovel can absolutely take you by surprise

[lofty sorrel]

Don't leave shotguns on the floor with that mod

[deft cape]

@fading sapphire
so to reproduce the teleporter issue, is this what i should do?

• die on one client with SpawnOnPlayerDeath set to 100
• on the other client, pull the lever to reset the day
• pull the lever again to start the game, and then try using the teleportor to bring back the first client (which shouldn't work?)

[fading sapphire]

My friend dropped his at Main in Kast, I was not ready for the shotgun mimic to show up at the fire exit

[fading sapphire]

In every test i've killed the masked before leaving but besides that yep, those are all accurate steps

[deft cape]

sounds good, gonna leave that on my github so i remember what to do

btw do you happen to remember if there's any error logs

when trying to tp the player

[fading sapphire]

Only that there was a spammed block of something about a body moving 🤔

Lemme reply to it

[deft cape]

kk

[fading sapphire]

here

[deft cape]

damn that log doesn't really ring any bells for me

but i do have an idea of what might be the issue actually

[solemn ridge]

@deft cape just thought, if you wanna try to get error logs and stuff when masked get stuck would you like to play with me on Stream?

[deft cape]

oh i actually can't play at this time sadly

[solemn ridge]

Rip XD

[deft cape]

i'll just watch and pray it doesn't happen

[solemn ridge]

Lmfao

[timber notch]

BRO

[timber notch]

So this should be the end of the Masked bug?

[deft cape]

it fixes an issue that caused masked enemies to not despawn when mirage was conflicting with another mod

and when a masked enemy failed to despawn, it caused everything else to despawn

so any other bug might still happen, idk what's the cause of them

[timber notch]

Huh, that’s an odd bug

[ancient moth]

do you guys know why the masked dont move?
and they already spawn with a mask after i disabled that

they just spawn in and dont do anything

[deft cape]

that's been reported before, but just wondering, are you on v1.0.15? just want to confirm something

[ancient moth]

nope

[deft cape]

try that and lmk if it still happens

[ancient moth]

kk

[solar zenith]

so is this pretty much a combo of Skinwalkers and Masked Enemy Overhaul?

to put it in a really basic sense

[lunar quest]

Yes

[solar zenith]

what makes it different?

[lunar quest]

Voice clips are synced across clients

So you hear the same voice as another player

[solar zenith]

skinwalker still doesnt sync?

[lunar quest]

I don’t believe so

[solar zenith]

bruh

does this mod use open mic yet?

when it first started it was push to talk only

been a while since i checked in

[lunar quest]

uses open mic

[solar zenith]

rad

thanks for the info

[lunar quest]

no prob

[solar zenith]

does this mod copy cosmetics of the player?

[lunar quest]

That I do not know I am sorry. I’ve seen it talked about in here so maybe if you sesrch some keywords for this thread you’ll find it

[solar zenith]

cant search threads unfortunately :(

[deft cape]

yeah it does, any cosmetic mod that supports masked enemies out of the box will work with mirage as well

[lunar quest]

sick

[solar zenith]

so advanced company is good then?

[deft cape]

so AdvancedCompany, MoreCompany, etc

yeah

[solar zenith]

sick

thank you

[solemn ridge]

Yes, in fact I recommend removing MEO and using Advanced Company to control the spawn rates

[solar zenith]

i dont see a reason to have MEO or Skinwalkers if you have this mod

[solemn ridge]

Just have AC copy the flowerman spawn rate 🙂

for Masked Enemies

[solar zenith]

ah

[solemn ridge]

For each planet

[solar zenith]

that is a fair point

[deft cape]

how'd the stream go, did the bug happen again for you?

[solemn ridge]

Nope, I never ran into a single mimic oddly enough after I used Better Lobbies to have that viewer join

Just constant Boombas