i swear there hasn't been many reports about the vents
#Mirage
timber notch
vents like in amogus hahaha im so original
deft cape
nicee it was that tyty
dark brook
@deft cape
deft cape
vents like in amogus hahaha im so original
so many games have vents 😔
dark brook
I got those 3 after bongo ran the first comparison
deft cape
<@497541811359711263>
thx time to run the script
deft cape
lunxara
dark brook
yeyeye
deft cape
@formal basin what's your profile code again? if you're still here
i know the issue isn't there anymore but still
deft cape
tyty
remote iris
were hear 6000 messages!
small glacier
Alrighty I'm ready to test whatever the new modpack is
small glacier
I think at this point it's definitely not gonna get errored in 1.1.8
deft cape
yeah definitely not abyss at this point
formal basin
oh i found it
deft cape
Alrighty I'm ready to test whatever the new modpack is
you're the goat 😂
small glacier
Settings, Profile, Switch Profiles, Import / Update, Import New, From Code, paste code
deft cape
tbh im just also hoping it's not causing too many issues for people
cuz the reports here are only a small minority of active players
dark brook
Settings, Profile, Switch Profiles, Import / Update, Import New, From Code, past...
hmm
are we doing lunxara?
deft cape
most other ppl if they have an issue, they'll probably just remove the mod so i'd never know about the issue
deft cape
oh yeah i already have the list
dark brook
if they aren't turn them on
small glacier
you're the goat 😂
deft cape
just downloading gorenbeda's rn and then ill run the script
dark brook
oh I was actually sharing it to @small glacier to run it
deft cape
ah
dark brook
sorry for the confusion haha
deft cape
well gorenbeda said there's no issue though for their modpack after adding it on r2
and most likely it's because it's using the most updated abyss
timber notch
qwbarch it’d be funny if you just made your Discord icon the Mirage icon
formal basin
i've deleted MEO though
formal basin
cause no need
small glacier
i've deleted MEO though
Same! It didn't work with AC as far as I know anyway
timber notch
“qwbarch (definitely not the mirage dev)”
deft cape
so vents getting stuck, and whatever else the other thing is
dark brook
figure out how to replicate the other issue
gonna be hard af
you'd have to search for the masked
deft cape
yeah that's the problem
dark brook
and you have to get it to get stuck in the first place
small glacier
So I should just go to Rend and wait for Masked?
deft cape
is the mimicking issue even related to the vents
dark brook
well if you could boost their spawn rate would be nice also
deft cape
So I should just go to Rend and wait for Masked?
@formal basin is gonna have to answer you on that one probably
dark brook
is the mimicking issue even related to the vents
mmmmm probably not but it's their only way of spawning naturally
deft cape
vents is how natural spawns always happen right?
timber notch
I’d use MEOF or AC to raise the spawn rate
dark brook
yes
deft cape
cuz that shouldn't be a problem anyways
formal basin
So I should just go to Rend and wait for Masked?
i went on atlas abyss and stood checking the logs to see if the game decides to add masked in
small glacier
For Lunxara profile Atlas Abyss is downloaded—should I go there or elsewhere?
dark brook
so they spawn, can't mimic anyone and somehow their ai died
formal basin
atlas abyss has high enough chance for them
dark brook
For Lunxara profile Atlas Abyss is downloaded—should I go there or elsewhere?
wellllllll
it's gonna be a lot easier to test there...
small glacier
i went on atlas abyss and stood checking the logs to see if the game decides to ...
That's what I was doing too :3
formal basin
is the mimicking issue even related to the vents
they start mimicking after they get out of the vent
small glacier
But last time having 1.1.8 fixed it, this modpack has 1.1.8 installed?
dark brook
if not just update it
timber notch
If you want to find the root issue try the old version
dark brook
go latest everything rn
deft cape
But last time having 1.1.8 fixed it, this modpack has 1.1.8 installed?
yeah that's why i said it's probably pointless to test this one
timber notch
if you want to find what leads to it try the new version
small glacier
Oh got'cha
deft cape
they start mimicking after they get out of the vent
yeah the mimicking thing shouldn't be an issue then
so back to square 1 whether or not it's a mirage issue
formal basin
the old version of AA had some sort of its own bug that could be unrelated to mirage
small glacier
I'm fairly sure it was only affecting the ones that spawned outside
dark brook
I only recommended atlas cause it has high masked spawn chance, I didn't know about the other issues it had lmaooo
timber notch
Well do you even touch the spawning of Masked if the config isn’t set to?
And why would it impact Dogs too?
formal basin
i think one borked ai could break the other
dark brook
We've moved on from that one back to masked not mimicking
deft cape
spawn rates of masked isn't affected at all in masked
if EnableNaturalSpawns is enabled, it's just vanilla spawns
if it's disabled, i remove it from the list of spawns
timber notch
lol
dark brook
np
deft cape
oh hey you're 1 hour ahead of me
small glacier
Same B)
dark brook
wow y'all staying late
timber notch
Atlantic Canada babyyyyy
remote iris
oh hey you're 1 hour ahead of me
barch do u mind me going out of topic sometimes like when i showed that clip
deft cape
ayyy fellow canadian eh
timber notch
Yooooooooooooooo
deft cape
barch do u mind me going out of topic sometimes like when i showed that clip
i love those clips actually LOL
timber notch
What part you live in
remote iris
i love those clips actually LOL
if you love clips you might like this mod
deft cape
i'll dm u
remote iris
this mod might increase the funyn screams
timber notch
👌👌👌
small glacier
Wait now I'm confors'd, what glitch am I testing now? QwQ;;
dark brook
you should get more mods that might help with that
remote iris
oh not for my group sadly, nobody that i play with screams
i do lol so i can increase the funny lol
deft cape
Wait now I'm confors'd, what glitch am I testing now? QwQ;;
i think we're still figuring those details out, so honestly probably enough testing for tonight
dark brook
Wait now I'm confors'd, what glitch am I testing now? QwQ;;
Masked spawn
formal basin
oh not for my group sadly, nobody that i play with screams
i've got a friend that we never play without with because she screams a lot lol
deft cape
i do lol so i can increase the funny lol
yeah your friends' screams are funny as fuck lmao
dark brook
masked spawn that doesn't mimic and doesn't have ai
deft cape
especially that last one from earlier
dark brook
just chills at the vent
timber notch
i've got a friend that we never play without with because she screams a lot lol
meeee
I’m so jumpy it’s hilarious
deft cape
masked spawn that doesn't mimic and doesn't have ai
do you happen to remember how to replicate this at all, or is it legit just completely random
small glacier
just chills at the vent
Alrighty—was this on the modpack profile I have currently?
Lunxara AC Profile
dark brook
do you happen to remember how to replicate this at all, or is it legit just comp...
it's just related to them spawning I think. All it needs is for the masked to have a chance to spawn
dark brook
Alrighty—was this on the modpack profile I have currently?
yup
small glacier
Alrighty!
dark brook
Just uhhh
timber notch
it’s to the point where I brought it up with my doctor at one point— apparently it’s likely that my subconscious anxiety level is just so high it takes very little to spook me
deft cape
it’s to the point where I brought it up with my doctor at one point— apparently ...
isn't it bad to be playing lethal then 🤔
dark brook
#1200695291972685926 message
I scream pretty much every time and I have a lot of fun while am at it 🙂
small glacier
That it doesn't disable vanilla spawns
Okidoki, changed EnableNaturalSpawn to true
dark brook
have like 300 clips of different things already lol
last time I got like actually scared is when I didn't play the game for like a week and forgot how coilhead sounds
deft cape
the game stopped being scary for me after i spoiled the game for myself and watched youtube vids
dark brook
and couldn't identify the sound of him running at me😭
timber notch
isn't it bad to be playing lethal then 🤔
shhh it’s fun
deft cape
but i do remember the first time i stepped into the haunted mansion, all my friends and i were just crouching huddled together
timber notch
I’m gonna be jumpy regardless might as well have fun
dark brook
but i do remember the first time i stepped into the haunted mansion, all my frie...
YEAH LMAO
timber notch
I need to get something that lets me clip gameplay/mic audio
formal basin
the game stopped being scary for me after i spoiled the game for myself and watc...
my mental health was never the same after darkwood and i dont really get scared anymore 🥲
deft cape
I once got scared by my crouched down teammate
LOL
deft cape
I’m gonna be jumpy regardless might as well have fun
trueee
timber notch
Because my screams
The other night when I tested mirage
And MEO
I had one of the most like primal screams I’ve had in my life
It was raw
formal basin
the thing that scared me the most so far in lethal company was bumping into a pipe in darkness
deft cape
I had one of the most like primal screams I’ve had in my life
that'd be so funny if someone heard it from a monster mimicking you
deft cape
that scream jumpscared me LFMAOO
remote iris
but i do remember the first time i stepped into the haunted mansion, all my frie...
bro my friend goes insane playing the game he told me he saw a black figure with nothing waist down running to another room and disappearing
dark brook
AT LEAST 2 PEOPLE IN MY GROUP HAVE BEEN JUMPSCARED BY THEM
remote iris
lol
formal basin
we have a friend that acts as masked too lol
dark brook
that scream jumpscared me LFMAOO
Yeah I just open the door and see an unidentifiable shape
CAUSE YOU RARELY EVER SEE SOMEONE CROUCHED
deft cape
we have a friend that acts as masked too lol
i do that too
i try and stare at people the same way masked enemies do
and say something every 5-10 seconds
dark brook
we have a friend that acts as masked too lol
I have a friend like that who got shot with a rocket launcher
by me
formal basin
i've almost got hit by a shovel
dark brook
and say something every 5-10 seconds
Bruuuuuhhhh we had a peak game with mirage one time
deft cape
thankfully for me my group and i are all noobs so they just run instead
dark brook
when one dude just decided to go ballistic at the start of the round
remote iris
also he told me he saw me standing next to the ship staring him down then he ran towards him and disappeared (i was still in the facility)
dark brook
saying lines like it's me, I'm real, hi it's me, I'm not a masked and etc
THEN HE DIED AND HIT PERFECT TIMINGS WITH EVERY PHRASE
masked are hands down the best addition by zeekeers, but they wouldn't be nearly as fun without modders
deft cape
bro my friend goes insane playing the game he told me he saw a black figure with...
wait whats the black figure, the bracken?
whoops just saw the msg just now
remote iris
wait whats the black figure, the bracken?
a bracken has legs tho
remote iris
and he said it didn't have no features like no face no eyes
dark brook
bro I'm so bummed that insanity got abandoned
deft cape
saying lines like it's me, I'm real, hi it's me, I'm not a masked and etc
lmfaoooooooo when the voices line up it's hilarious
later on it might not need to be random 👀
just need to figure out the logistics of it
remote iris
he drew it as a thing that had a chest with arms and a head that doesn't look like a player's head
dark brook
wym by that
small glacier
How 2 get vanilla mansion back with this modpack
remote iris
he told me it didn't look like a player
small glacier
I got da debug maze
dark brook
How 2 get vanilla mansion back with this modpack
HUH
remote iris
How 2 get vanilla mansion back with this modpack
u toggle test room
its on top of invinciability
small glacier
On what mod
dark brook
backrooms
remote iris
lethaldevmode
dark brook
On what mod
press esc
remote iris
press esc
deft cape
wym by that
i'll explain more later, but there's plans on improving mirage quite a bit
remote iris
i'll explain more later, but there's plans on improving mirage quite a bit
oh lol
small glacier
Thanks
deft cape
he drew it as a thing that had a chest with arms and a head that doesn't look li...
huh... i wonder what that is
small glacier
How does it get better??
dark brook
hope it gets more traction
remote iris
huh... i wonder what that is
bro i came back to the ship and bro was cryin
deft cape
just waiting till i have more work done on it before i announce it
remote iris
just waiting till i have more work done on it before i announce it
its gonna be so fire
deft cape
bro i came back to the ship and bro was cryin
lmfaooo
small glacier
just waiting till i have more work done on it before i announce it
o7
We commend your dedication to the Company and the activities of its Assets
deft cape
same with y'all for spending so much time testing things
small glacier
Thank you for making a mod worth testing B)
remote iris
i only tested like 4 times tho
small glacier
Oh snap I forgot about v50
deft cape
i just hope it doesn't break mirage while i'm not around cuz i probably won't have the time to work on mirage much for the next 3 days
dark brook
honestly no idea, zeekeers is updating some stuff as seen on steamdb
small glacier
So many good mods constantly arriving that it just kinda got into the background
deft cape
true 😭
remote iris
does zeekeers know about this discord server
small glacier
It would be difficult not to know about this
dark brook
you can ping him here and ask
deft cape
alright i guess until more bug reports come up there's not much to test here for now eh
lilac saffron
later on it might not need to be random 👀
Hype
dark brook
maybe he does
dark brook
#1184403394660663326 message
I GOT A LEAD
#1184403394660663326 message
worst thing about this is that meo dev doesn't have any time rn
deft cape
wait that's from so long ago
possible that it really is just vanilla then...
oh wait the second one
dark brook
yeah, I had that issue but it still bugs me that the masked had cosmetics when that happened
deft cape
was supposed to be fixed hmmm
speaking of which, pinging @lofty sorrel, seems like the lag issue came from abyss atlas (fixed in their newest update), but there's still the vent issue
which just so happens to relate to what you mentioned in MEO there too
deft cape
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HAMINPANTS/LethalVocabulary/
wait this actually looks funny asf
deft cape
damn there's no release page for lethalvocabulary
deft cape
but we can't rule out the possibility
true
deft cape
but maybe masked ai rework will fix it??
dont think so
remote iris
damn there's no release page for lethalvocabulary
u wanna read the code???
wym by release apge
dark brook
bruh I saw a mod once named sraken
remote iris
page*
dark brook
that angered the bracken with a voice recognition system
if you said certain words he would just rush you
deft cape
at least if i remember right, there were bug reports coming from ppl who used maskedairevamp so it's still potentially an issue with mirage (unrelated to maskedairevamp)
deft cape
u wanna read the code???
oh nah i just wanted to follow the thread
so i can see how it is for others
dark brook
at least if i remember right, there were bug reports coming from ppl who used ma...
yeah, the common denominators are maskedfix and mirage sadly
deft cape
oh wait what
maskedfix is confirmed?
oh wait nvm
common denominator
speaking of which
dark brook
I think everyone runs it
deft cape
bruh i forgot to run bongo's script
dark brook
oh yeah lmao
deft cape
lmaoo
alright time to run it
now i just need to
scroll up and find the script
nvm search feature is a thign
timber notch
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HAMINPANTS/LethalVocabulary/
omg this sounds freaking hilarious
timber notch
If you can set custom words that’s be legendary
timber notch
“Mimic”
dark brook
wait what does the mod do again???.
remote iris
i died when i said mimic
timber notch
See if you can say mimic
dark brook
oh it just kills you
timber notch
hahaaaa that’s amazing
remote iris
wait what does the mod do again???.
it explodes u if u say a certain word
i exploded
deft cape
wait true that's a good suggestion
dark brook
in the long run just dying wouldn't be really fun
deft cape
i think it'd still be fun in the short run cuz having to use different words to describe the same thing is kinda funny
timber notch
I feel like it could be if you use like really cursed or funny words words
small glacier
I think that's a bit too party-games-y for my personal modpack, but if someone made a monster that didn't allow you to say certain things while near it, that would be insane 0.0
I will absolutely try it out when messing around tho
remote iris
I think that's a bit too party-games-y for my personal modpack, but if someone m...
ik maybe a challenge
timber notch
“Guys my monster said we can’t swear”
small glacier
LOL
dark brook
I think that's a bit too party-games-y for my personal modpack, but if someone m...
saying the word bug in ac thread simulator
small glacier
Or maybe just as soon as you see the monster then it activates globally
I wonder if there are any SCPs this would be applicable to?
timber notch
saying the word bug in ac thread simulator
Pfffft
deft cape
i have an idea of what might be the issue if MaskedPlayerEnemy.Start fails (like earlier when some logs had a null reference exception)
whichever mod handles spawning is probably not using the same prefab, so it doesn't attach the components that i normally attach to a masked enemy
dark brook
I wonder if there are any SCPs this would be applicable to?
I'm like
99% sure there is at least one
dark brook
i have an idea of what might be the issue if ``MaskedPlayerEnemy.Start`` fails (...
But how does that relate to it's ai breaking?
dark brook
WAIT
deft cape
for the .Update i honestly have no clue
small glacier
SCP-2521 maybe?
dark brook
YES
small glacier
Might be harder to do though
deft cape
someone make that scp a thing please 🙏
small glacier
'Cause you'd have to be able to tell when they are talking about "it"
It's not just one specific word
timber notch
Someone should add my favourite SCP to the game
dark brook
someone make 1471 please
deft cape
'Cause you'd have to be able to tell when they are talking about "it"
yeah sounds kinda hard to be able to understand context like that
lilac saffron
How easy is it to make a mod with no prior unity experience
deft cape
depends on the type of mod
lilac saffron
Correction, how hard*
remote iris
thumper now
dark brook
'Cause you'd have to be able to tell when they are talking about "it"
maybe repurpose it a bit
deft cape
i have 0 unity experience but my mod doesn't have to deal with assets so
remote iris
imma test if it works in chat
dark brook
thumper now
like legit copy this mod
deft cape
if i had to make an actual enemy for example that's impossible
dark brook
but make it spawn the entity instead of blowing you up
remote iris
i got blown outta da map
small glacier
Could make a custom SCP-like creature for Lethal specifically tho if there isn't one that prohibits certain common words, doesn't hafta be canon to anything 👀
deft cape
trueee
deft cape
mods that showed up at least twice in the 4 modpacks from earlier:
BepInExPack: 3
LethalCompany_InputUtils: 3
DissonanceLagFix: 3
LCMaxSoundsFix: 3
LethalThings: 3
Mimics: 3
More_Suits: 3
PathfindingLagFix: 3
HookGenPatcher: 3
LethalLib: 3
LethalLevelLoader: 3
GeneralImprovements: 3
UniTask: 3
NAudio: 3
BarchLib: 3
Mirage: 3
AdvancedCompany: 2
AlwaysHearActiveWalkies: 2
Coroner: 2
DiscJockey: 2
EladsHUD: 2
FixRPCLag: 2
Lategame_Upgrades: 2
LC_Masked_Fix: 2
OdinSerializer: 2
LethalNetworkAPI: 2
LC_Office: 2
LethalEscape: 2
MoreInteriors: 2
OpenBodyCams: 2
Peepers: 2
Scoopys_Variety_Mod: 2
Scopophobia: 2
SCPFoundationDungeon: 2
StrangerThingsMod: 2
TooManyEmotes: 2
VanillaContentExpansion: 2
CullFactory: 2
Brutal_Company_Minus: 2
ScarletDevilMansion: 2
PoolRooms: 2
Dantors_Mental_Hospital: 2
HideChat: 2
MoreCompany: 2
WackyCosmetics: 2
AbsasCosmetics: 2
SellTracker: 2
VoiceHUD: 2
LethalConfig: 2
YippeeMod: 2
DanceTools: 2
CoilHeadStare: 2
MaskTheDead: 2
pathfindinglagfix is the only thing that looks like it'd affect ais
deft cape
not saying it's the issue though
small glacier
Just accidentally zapgunned the breaker box that controls the lights??? I didn't know you could do that
dark brook
you can???
deft cape
wait maybe i only put in 3 of them
remote iris
pathfindinglagfix is the only thing that looks like it'd affect ais
i use dat
no issue
small glacier
I was using it as a light source because my flashlight died
dark brook
.......
Yet
deft cape
honestly we should just look at @remote iris's modpack to see what does work since his modpack works flawlessly
remote iris
sure lol
small glacier
It switches some of the light switches to the right 0.0
dark brook
damn
remote iris
018db150-603f-5961-8a4f-226d62543675
some locally imported mods wont work
like the beta of diversity
and lc_office beta
dark brook
mods that showed up at least twice in the 4 modpacks from earlier:
```
BepInExPa...
why... huh...
masked fix on 2...
deft cape
yeah honestly from that list, i dont think we can really get any leads off of that
dark brook
this then?
BepInExPack: 3
LethalCompany_InputUtils: 3
DissonanceLagFix: 3
LCMaxSoundsFix: 3
LethalThings: 3
Mimics: 3
More_Suits: 3
PathfindingLagFix: 3
HookGenPatcher: 3
LethalLib: 3
LethalLevelLoader: 3
GeneralImprovements: 3
UniTask: 3
NAudio: 3
BarchLib: 3
Mirage: 3
none of the other commonly shared mods should conflict
dark brook
hm
well, given that it is a vanilla issue
maybe something is actively making it worse?
deft cape
only thing that looks like it might would be PathfindingLagFix which vladiester said is fine
could be
dark brook
this then?
```
BepInExPack: 3
LethalCompany_InputUtils: 3
DissonanceLagFix: 3
LC...
scratch LLL off that
deft cape
also maybe GeneralImprovements but idk what it does exactly so that's just a wild guess, most likely it's not though
remote iris
also maybe ``GeneralImprovements`` but idk what it does exactly so that's just a...
i just added dat to my pack
like rn
so maybe
i didn't have it before
deft cape
hmmm
deft cape
i wonder if also specific settings might be triggering it
dark brook
i wonder if also specific settings might be triggering it
hmmmm
I didn't change anything when adding mirage
I only got rid of meo and skins
but given that people with meo still ran into that issue it's safe to assume it doesn't fix it
still the amount of people reporting it is too big to write it off as a coincidence
deft cape
still the amount of people reporting it is too big to write it off as a coincide...
yeah that's the problem
i keep wanting to say it sounds like it's not related, but there's too many people with the issue
i wonder if @lofty sorrel has an ideas on what it could be since they commented about the same issue on MEO
dark brook
if only meo dev was active...
deft cape
all good it's understandable that they're busy
but the way this is headed, it seems like it'll take a long time to even figure out the cause
so unfortunately won't be able to write a fix for it anytime soon
i'll just continue working on my new features on the meantime unless any new leads are found
lofty sorrel
i wonder if <@308146403794747393> has an ideas on what it could be since they co...
Remind me which issue that was
deft cape
1 sec
deft cape
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1184403394660663326/12022998327...
@lofty sorrel it's this
copper pilot
Suggestion, REPLACE the system when u die u turn into a mimic with this one:
There is some chance % that the mimic can spawn it can disguise as the player but it also can seen in this form rarely: when it fails at disgusing or Something it would be creeepy The skinwalker true form would feature a little more different ai, it would be creepy
deft cape
texture changes would have to be from another mod
also i don't have the skills to do it, i'm purely a software person
deft cape
you'll have better chances of it becoming a thing in #1188298686560739389 probably
copper pilot
And animations
remote iris
my friend when he doesnt join
deft cape
thats a lot of clicks 😂
deft cape
💀
remote iris
copper pilot
texture changes would have to be from another mod
It would have a CUSTOM model also
Doesnt look like the player at all
And new ai
dreamy portal
Doesnt look like the player at all
what you just described is an entirely different mod xd
deft cape
that's what i'm saying though, that kind of change would have to come from another mod so it's better to write about it in #1188298686560739389
copper pilot
I did that
errant cypress
What did I miss in the last some hours?
deft cape
so at the start we were looking for a way to reproduce the issue that a couple people were having, but it turns out to be an issue with AtlasAbyss, which was fixed in their latest update
but there's still the issue of masked enemies getting stuck at vents (and not assigning a player to get mimicked)
deft cape
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1184403394660663326/11939099162...
looks like it might be related to an meo issue (that they fixed)
remote iris
@deft cape what does this mean
remote iris
it says im missing that
deft cape
i tried searching that using the discord search bar but
there's only 1 result that's not too helpful
is that the only thing that shows up on your logs
remote iris
das it only
deft cape
is it failing only for walkers?
like everything else is mimicking voices?
i wonder if integritychaos knows anything
remote iris
like everything else is mimicking voices?
i have modded enemies mimicking
set to false
deft cape
oh what
hmmm
yeah no clue on that one, couldn't find any leads
if it happens again ping me
remote iris
deft cape
@dark brook now that i think about it, you probably are right that it's happening too often to be a coincidence. i remember someone else reporting that that an issue would only happen when they had mirage + scoopy's installed (and for scoopy's it's because it lets enemies exit outside of the facility i think?)
deft cape
wait is this like, preventing you from entering the game
dark brook
<@400388201782706207> now that i think about it, you probably are right that it'...
I don't think scoopy does that btw. also we can rule it out thanks to...
remote iris
wait is this like, preventing you from entering the game
yes
deft cape
yes
might be one of the new mods you added then no?
i thought you were having issues with interactions in game
remote iris
i thought you were having issues with interactions in game
interactions??
deft cape
don't think too hard on the word, i meant more like just
things in game in general
im tired
remote iris
i dont think so
deft cape
I don't think scoopy does that btw. also we can rule it out thanks to...
so i guess we're back to square 1 😭
deft cape
i dont think so
but wasn't mirage working fine b4 for u
dark brook
what I can do is run an online test with the mods you got from 4 modpacks
remote iris
but wasn't mirage working fine b4 for u
yeah this dude always has he stuff glitching
always mismatching
deft cape
is he on the same version
deft cape
wtf
remote iris
idk his game is always like dis
deft cape
aint got a clue
😭
you wouldn't happen to be running a locally build mirage would you
idk if i sent you one b4
like today i mean
remote iris
you wouldn't happen to be running a locally build mirage would you
nope
i reinstalled
and he still had same issue
deft cape
no clue then 😭
dark brook
oh true to real that part out at least
can you get me the latest rendition of that?
dark brook
That's a config mismatch error
dark brook
mm
remote iris
its synced to the host barch said pretty sure
dark brook
well to be sure you can just send him yours
deft cape
can you get me the latest rendition of that?
wdym the list count?
dark brook
yes
deft cape
i haven't changed anything tho
dark brook
oh I thought you ran the 4th pack through it too
deft cape
its synced to the host barch said pretty sure
yeah it is, the issue isn't the config anyways, 1 of the network prefabs aren't registering for whatever reason (on his side at least)
deft cape
oh I thought you ran the 4th pack through it too
ah wait lemme do that real quick
remote iris
nah he has an extra config
deft cape
after i grab that gonna go sleep
deft cape
oh is diversity's config not synced
dark brook
does mirage auto generate the config for new enemies? or something like that
deft cape
not sure why that's specifically coming from mirage unless one of my network prefabs aren't registering on it
deft cape
does mirage auto generate the config for new enemies? or something like that
nope modded enemies fall into the same umbrella
dark brook
then again diversity is still in beta
deft cape
i plan on revamping that in the future to give more options but i'll have to think of how to do that while still letting it be user friendly enough
dark brook
so probably worth reporting it to the dev also
deft cape
ok gonna grba the list rq rn
i wish i could pin stuff here, idk where the profile codes even are rn
remote iris
i mean im using beta deversity
dark brook
i plan on revamping that in the future to give more options but i'll have to thi...
mmmmmm well spectate enemies grabs a list of all enemies
and then makes its own config menu thingy
you could probably try snatching (or asking to help with) that bit of code and adding it into lethal settings if that's possible
deft cape
oh wait by having it auto update in the config eh
that's a smart approach
i know how tow to do that part with code so all good
just never even thought of doing it that way
dark brook
oh neat
deft cape
not gonna touch the config until a major update though cuz i don't want to break backwards compatibility for modpacks
don't wanna introduce any unexpected stuff where modpack owners would have to wonder if i changed anything major between updates
dark brook
I only remember this cause I had an issue with an enemy with a ' in its name killing the whole config lmao
deft cape
do you happen to have the link for the modpacks from earlier
i legit cant find it im blind
deft cape
I only remember this cause I had an issue with an enemy with a ' in its name kil...
ah icic
dark brook
mmmmm gimme a sec
deft cape
im gonna have to keep that in mind and escape things properly lmao
dark brook
ah nvm I only have the modlists
deft cape
oh wait nah that's fine
actually supposed to be modlists anyways, for the profile ones im grabbing a modlist out of it
dark brook
oh ok brb
deft cape
tyty
dark brook
<@497541811359711263>
Here
deft cape
gotcha thx
#1207830277544742953 message
looks very related
gonna take a look at this modpack tmrw when i get home
dark brook
where le mod list
acoustic fox
May I ask what issues there are with other mods when Miragei s present?
dark brook
you have to tweak some settings if you're planning to play with MEO
acoustic fox
Hmm so are there no other conflicts or issues other than that currently?
The emote mod my group uses is TME so MEO shouldn't be a concern for us
dark brook
there is one that is basically a vanilla issue but no one knows if it's related or why it's happening
dark brook
The emote mod my group uses is TME so MEO shouldn't be a concern for us
that works flawlessly
deft cape
well the issue we're trying to figure out right now (assuming you're asking about that) is kinda unknown, and seems to not be coming from mirage, but we're not entirely sure on that either
dark brook
gotcha
deft cape
most common thing that looks like it might be an issue is pathfindinglagfix but vlad said it's not an issue for him
but like what if it's an issue with specific other mods though, who knows
dark brook
well yk how it is, it's hard to notice the masked bugging out if you don't find them
well regardless
deft cape
very true
dark brook
if you'll be awake in like maybe 20 mins
small glacier
I use PathFindingLagFix in my main modpack, not a problem there as far as I can tell
dark brook
I'll report
deft cape
oh nah i'm heading to sleep right now sadly
dark brook
ah nws
deft cape
im sooo tired and i gotta wake up way earlier as well
deft cape
I use PathFindingLagFix in my main modpack, not a problem there as far as I can ...
so we can rule that out as well
small glacier
Oh also I was not able to find any Masked who did not work properly on Rend with that modpack Lunxara
dark brook
so it is rare
which further reinforces that we shouldn't rule out anything honestly...
deft cape
Oh also I was not able to find any Masked who did not work properly on Rend with...
ah right i forgot they mentioned it happens on rend as well...
dark brook
unless it just doesn't appear in a affected pack
deft cape
which further reinforces that we shouldn't rule out anything honestly...
actually good point
acoustic fox
PathfindingLagFix doesn't interact with masked at all currently afaik
deft cape
ok that's definitely ruled out then at this point
acoustic fox
It only currently does stuff with snare fleas, brackens, and spore lizards
dark brook
ok gonna assemble the pack
small glacier
If Masked use EnemyAI.ChooseFarthestNodeFromPosition() for some reason then it would affect them, but they always seem to go towards you and so I can't imagine why they would use it
Was fun having a Masked dance party on Rend tho for real
deft cape
If Masked use EnemyAI.ChooseFarthestNodeFromPosition() for some reason then it w...
why that method specifically? 👀
well shit im too tired so im j ust gonna go sleep, i'll catch up on messages tmrw when i'm able to
thanks again for all the help y'all
dark brook
<@400388201782706207>
H OW IS MIRAGE ON 3
ok im going back to the old one dont worry
lmao
acoustic fox
oh yeah what are those numbers on those messages
dark brook
amount of the same mod in x modpacks
acoustic fox
ah i see
small glacier
why that method specifically? 👀
That's the only thing PathfindingLagFix changes AFAIK
dark brook
bros looking at the wall
BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.6.3
PotatoePet-AdvancedCompany-1.1.1
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.14.2
malco-Lategame_Upgrades-3.1.1
AllToasters-SpectateEnemies-2.3.1
linkoid-DissonanceLagFix-1.0.0
Hardy-LCMaxSoundsFix-1.0.0
x753-Mimics-2.4.1
x753-More_Suits-1.4.1
Zaggy1024-PathfindingLagFix-1.2.1
IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader-1.1.6
ShaosilGaming-GeneralImprovements-1.1.9
Bobbie-UniTask-2.5.0
Bobbie-NAudio-2.2.2
qwbarch-BarchLib-1.0.0
qwbarch-Mirage-1.0.13
nvm i forgot to turn on vanilla spawns
masked might jsut be braindead by design
so far so good, 5 masked spawned and all are working
remote iris
@deft cape DAMN
dark brook
BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.6.3
PotatoePet-A...
two days and i didnt catch nuffin
gonna test lunxara now
cant reproduce it there either
lofty sorrel
Still unable to reproduce the issue?
With the R2ModMan update making disabling and enabling quicker it should be much easier to narrow it down if we even knew what caused it and how to reproduce it
Advanced Company to set all spawn rates to 0 but Masked and increase spawn cap, LethalDevMode for invincibility and just wait for Masked to spawn and hope one breaks?
dark brook
Still unable to reproduce the issue?
no
remote iris
okay it aint mirage
because i removed mirage
he had diversity mismatch
and i when i remove that
he another mismatch
like what
bitter harness
What's the current stance on MEO and Mirage compatibility? Also is the incompatibility or desync only relevant when a group is using cosmetics as well (and by that I don't mean suits)?
remote iris
What's the current stance on MEO and Mirage compatibility? Also is the incompati...
use the MEO fork it has a compatiblity option in config and also disable anything that is shared between them in meo config like masked hiding or zombie arms
and it will work perfectly
also if u want meo spawns
enable natural spawns in mirage config
bitter harness
I want vanilla spawns, and voice mimicking, with each masked mimicking a specific player. That's basically all I want
bitter harness
use the MEO fork it has a compatiblity option in config and also disable anythin...
are we talking about this?
remote iris
I want vanilla spawns, and voice mimicking, with each masked mimicking a specifi...
well vanilla spawns are only in rend and titan which is why i suggest getting meo spawns
remote iris
yes
remote iris
I want vanilla spawns, and voice mimicking, with each masked mimicking a specifi...
if u want ill screenshot my configs
bitter harness
and should it be used INSTEAD of meo or WITH
remote iris
instead
bitter harness
if u want ill screenshot my configs
that would help yes please
bitter harness
well vanilla spawns are only in rend and titan which is why i suggest getting me...
ah okay, then I do want Meo spawns, I never knew they were limited like that
remote iris
that would help yes please
the masked usernames wont work (i use hide usernames mod anyway)
this is in meo config
u see that option about dont touch maskedplayerenemy
bitter harness
the masked usernames wont work (i use hide usernames mod anyway)
Not a dealbreaker, but can I ask why?
remote iris
turn that on (also it only appears when u have meo fork)
remote iris
Not a dealbreaker, but can I ask why?
since it will conflict with mirage pretty sure on who is doing the stuff on the masked
bitter harness
got it
solemn ridge
enable natural spawns in mirage config
I actually don't know if using natural spawns makes the MEO spawns work, cus then you get the bug on Rend almost constantly where a masked will spawn with a mask on unable to move
remote iris
I actually don't know if using natural spawns makes the MEO spawns work, cus the...
hmm didn't know that i dont usually go on rend since my group always want custom interiors and moons
bitter harness
I actually don't know if using natural spawns makes the MEO spawns work, cus the...
lol that's goofy
remote iris
Not a dealbreaker, but can I ask why?
in mirage config just make enablenaturalspawns true and make spawnonplayerdeath 0
solemn ridge
Likewise I'm pretty sure it doesn't hurt to leave MEO's settings on that do the same thing as Mirage, as long as the compatibility setting is ticked
remote iris
Likewise I'm pretty sure it doesn't hurt to leave MEO's settings on that do the ...
ig just to be safe
ill test rn
solemn ridge
I saw someone mention once that the mask wouldn't disable on masked enemies unless they left it enabled in MEO Fork's config
XD
remote iris
it works only with mirage for me
solemn ridge
Well let me see if I can get a masked to spawn on Vow without natural spawns ticked
Vow seems to have a guaranteed one spawn with MEO
bitter harness
thanks for the help guys
oh wait
what's the config entry for the fork?
this is the only one I'm finding
remote iris
this is the only one I'm finding
also just tested
remote iris
i think mirage is taking over cuz i see no usernames
remote iris
shouldn't there be two?
it just overwrites the other because two files cannot exist in the same place in windows
i think
remote iris
i think mirage is taking over cuz i see no usernames
but also masked and zombie arms are removed
bitter harness
I see
okay so then
this is the compatibility setting we were talking about, right?
remote iris
ye
bitter harness
okay, all good then
solemn ridge
Okay so natural spawns aren't needed for MEO spawns
I ran into a Bracken on Vow then a Mimic of me walked into the main entrance
XD
remote iris
did u have a nice chat?
remote iris
lol
solemn ridge
I had the mask and zombie arms settings for MEO disabled btw
Worked as it should
@deft cape I think this rules out AC cosmetic compat problems btw, cus I use AC lol
I have spawnonplayerdeath set to 0 btw
My friend and I learned how deadly that is XD
remote iris
I have spawnonplayerdeath set to 0 btw
he fixed em in the latest update
ac cosmetics worked for non host players
but not for host
solemn ridge
Ik but last night he was trying to replicate some issues and thought AC Cosmetics might be one of them
But I just confirmed they work fine
remote iris
ah kk also by last night do you mean like 3-4 hours ago because that was noon for me lol (timezone dif goes brrr)
bitter harness
I just died to this guy at like 9am
solemn ridge
Vow has a guaranteed spawn because Vow has a guaranteed Bracken spawn like 99.9% of the time
and MEO spawns them at the same rate as a Bracken
bitter harness
and there is no way around that?
solemn ridge
Vow is the only planet that has such a high Bracken spawn chance
remote iris
and there is no way around that?
u can use lethalcompanyvariabeles or advanced company
to tweak the spawns
solemn ridge
I mean you won't always get one, but Vow is the best way to test for one
bitter harness
u can use lethalcompanyvariabeles or advanced company
I'm using AC, that works
solemn ridge
MEO also has settings you can change, like spawn rarity
but yeah AC's menu is way easier to adjust spawn rates
So these are the settings you want in both mods
btw
Usernames optional
bitter harness
and will I have to tweak the bracken spawn or the masked?
remote iris
80 is pretty high
bitter harness
40 too low?
remote iris
40 is fine
eternal bridge
spawned this guy using the dev spawner, won't move, can't damage him, and he's not playing voicelines, as well as the radio flashlight and spray paint can from MEO are detached and the mask is still on him (he has 2 masks on because i'm wearing one as a cosmetic)
also can't attack me
also i can't exit the facility
solemn ridge
It looks like the reserved mods are bugging on him
eternal bridge
It looks like the reserved mods are bugging on him
they are, but i've had all the reserved mods before and they didn't do anything bad
eternal bridge
it might've been that like... the last moon i went to, i created thousands upon thousands of masked because i was invincible, and then tried to /kill
solemn ridge
lol
eternal bridge
but i assume relaunchign the game will fix it... right?
twilit monolith
Any luck? 👀
lofty sorrel
I actually don't know if using natural spawns makes the MEO spawns work, cus the...
This is a bug that's still being investigated and has a pretty unclear cause, not to do with MEO at all though
solemn ridge
Yeah I was just stating the natural spawns feature doesn't actually need to be enabled for MEO Spawn settings to work
lofty sorrel
spawned this guy using the dev spawner, won't move, can't damage him, and he's n...
This mught be a step in the right direction to figuring out the bug. Could you send your modslist?
solemn ridge
Cus I had this guy spawn with that setting turned off, hopefully that means my mimics on Rend won't be stuck anymore
Until the bug gets squashed
eternal bridge
This mught be a step in the right direction to figuring out the bug. Could you s...
lofty sorrel
It's sort of random whether the Masked spawn broken or not, cause people are having games where 2 or 3 Masked spawn fine, but then one spawns broken
lofty sorrel
Awesome I'll bring this up w Barch if he doesn't see it himself
eternal bridge
It's sort of random whether the Masked spawn broken or not, cause people are hav...
maybe they just aren't feeling it?
like they just are like "man i don't wanna do this no more"
lofty sorrel
It probably is quitr exhausting wearing someone else's skin and moving around in it
eternal bridge
It probably is quitr exhausting wearing someone else's skin and moving around in...
maybe they are us from another reality and the moons AREN'T abandoned
that gets me thinking
what ARE the naturally spawned masked!??!? (in vanilla)
i would assume, remnants of another crew
lofty sorrel
Mirage made them mimic so hard that they became just like us, the real us, playing the game, realising their situation that they aren't real, and they're stuck
solemn ridge
I will just say for me using MEOFork with natural spawns enabled every time they spawned on Rend they would be stuck
But the dev was unable to reproduce it with my mod pack
lofty sorrel
what ARE the naturally spawned masked!??!? (in vanilla)
Yeah just old crews that put on a Mask and left behind
eternal bridge
i found something else about the masked is that the masks vibrate and shake when they want to kill you
lofty sorrel
But the dev was unable to reproduce it with my mod pack
Interesting, I'll give it a try when I'm home too if I can find the code
eternal bridge
what if you could take the masks off??? would they just die or would they become normal again
solemn ridge
I've updated it since, I'll post the updated one, just make sure to enable natural spawns cus I have it disabled now
018db27c-07dd-9d94-7b0c-50a77479c3bc
lofty sorrel
what if you could take the masks off??? would they just die or would they become...
The people are already dead, the mask just puppets their corpse
eternal bridge
The people are already dead, the mask just puppets their corpse
yeah, cuz you can hear the oxygen tanks being punctured when you die
lofty sorrel
018db27c-07dd-9d94-7b0c-50a77479c3bc
Thank you, will do
solemn ridge
Thank you, will do
👍
lofty sorrel
Have you tested with this updated version?
solemn ridge
I was using this pack where I tested if I could get one to spawn on Vow with natural spawns disabled
But haven't been to Rend yet no
lofty sorrel
Worth a try anyways, what did you change?
solemn ridge
Replaced HDLethalCompany with LCUltraWide because it has way less issues, added ModelReplacementAPI to fix the bug where you can't see yourself on the internal ship cam, and added CorporateRestructureWeather
and updated Mimics to 2.4.1 today
cus it got updated to fix netcode issues
lofty sorrel
Alright yeah I imagine none of those will make a difference
solemn ridge
Yeah same
solemn ridge
I for the longest time thought that on Rend the fog flickering when looking certain directions was caused by disabling the visor in fpp
but it was HDLethalCompany
That also happens on Dine too btw cus they have the same visual effects
but I prefer Rend
eternal bridge
somebody should make a mod that plays the beginning of this song when you see a Masked
if you've ever heard of or played pizza tower (rip pizza tower 😭 ) then you know what this is
solemn ridge
I already love how TooManyEmotes makes it so they can emote when they see you
eternal bridge
like just the dun dun dun
eternal bridge
I already love how TooManyEmotes makes it so they can emote when they see you
true, though it's easily countered by the fact that they can't do the MoreEmotes emotes or the default dance and point
or jump
wait...
JUMP?
solemn ridge
MoreEmotes has too many animator conflicts
solemn ridge
I don't use it
eternal bridge
I don't use it
solemn ridge
?
remote iris
https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-minos-prime-gif-27016187
ultrakill
eternal bridge
I used to like MoreEmotes
until you took an arrow to the knee?
remote iris
Nah, it conflicts with the portable terminal in AC
thats betteremotes
eternal bridge
solemn ridge
MoreEmotes does too they're the same mod
remote iris
nah
when i switched to more emotes
i didn't have that issue with the protable terminal
solemn ridge
Regardless I don't need More Emotes, I only liked it for the sign emote by the time I removed it
XD
eternal bridge
eternal bridge
Regardless I don't need More Emotes, I only liked it for the sign emote by the t...
more emotes made me cry laughing. wanna know how?
the hootenany emote
the emotes don't even fit cuz it's just stock mocap animations
solemn ridge
lol
eternal bridge
I'm not watching that, I regretted the other vid
solemn ridge
Also to give BetterEmotes credit
they are trying to fix the animator conflicts that MoreEmotes has
eternal bridge
worthy helm
cus it got updated to fix netcode issues
ahh ok just saw that update. No wonder, I was only seeing the mimic fire exit and everyone else thought I was crazy well until I died to it heh
solemn ridge
You know you probably shouldn't spam shitposts inside of a mod thread btw sagey
eternal bridge
ahh ok just saw that update. No wonder, I was only seeing the mimic fire exit a...
you are crazy :)
:)
worthy helm
most likely, insanityremastered was turned up
eternal bridge
: )
solemn ridge
sagey why do I get the feeling you're a child?
solemn ridge
most likely, insanityremastered was turned up
InsanityRemastered is a pretty good mod lol, but all the popups are pretty silly
Btw I never had issues with my friends not seeing the fake fire exits so I wonder if you had a mod conflict
Or maybe that issue was random cus of netcode issues
eternal bridge
worthy helm
been using it for awhile, reverted to 1.0.8. It's about just the right amount of that around the corner watching you type thing
used mimcs since it came out so never had an issue for it till the update which is probably the network issue lol
solemn ridge
I would add ghostcodes but the flickering lights feature is annoying when insane lol
the sounds it makes are cool, but the lights flicker so rapidly it has 0 charm to it
worthy helm
yeah, had to tweak them to play nice a bit, since i got resonance/ghostcodes/diversity/insanityremastered on
solemn ridge
LethalResonance is an instant perma addition
Can't even go back to vanilla
Lol
I also recommend the scanner sound addon btw
eternal bridge
LethalResonance is an instant perma addition
it's not letting me add reaction wtf
why
worthy helm
yeah saw that scanner got removed so i was bum but will check that addon
solemn ridge
yeah saw that scanner got removed so i was bum but will check that addon
It was made a seperate mod due to community poll
worthy helm
is it still the same one before it got removed?
eternal bridge
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LethalResonance/LETHALRESONANCE_TheFo...
why can't i add a reaction
lilac saffron
been using it for awhile, reverted to 1.0.8. It's about just the right amount o...
Why is 1.0.8 better than the latest version?
worthy helm
just a preference is all. basic functions and all that.
lilac saffron
Do you recommend that I switch? I'm currently on latest version but I haven't had a chance to play with it
worthy helm
also wasn't getting red errors when near light sources from different interiors especially LC_Office for some reason. But it's easily configurable.
errors when trying to find the "stinger" sound for hallucinations. But I think it needs a reroute of that folder somewhere i remember seeing some fix for it idk where tho 🤷
worthy helm
Do you recommend that I switch? I'm currently on latest version but I haven't ha...
Play with the latest first Id say. Tweak it if it's too strong going insane in just a few minutes and then more later. I have to since I added the other mods that added more to the darkness making me insane real bad lol
solemn ridge
How did you make the light flickering less annoying with Ghostcodes btw?
lofty sorrel
Respectfully, read the room <3
solemn ridge
Respectfully, read the room <3
If you're saying that to sagey I just blocked him, dude's clearly a child that just wants attention
solemn ridge
The behavior speaks for itself
I'd already asked him once to stop spamming shitposts in the mod thread, he continued so I blocked XD
lofty sorrel
I'm training to be a teaching assistant currently so I see what's up, you're valid
solemn ridge
Ye
lofty sorrel
Wait he actually left the server????
solemn ridge
Lol did he?
lofty sorrel
Yeah, might be a joke and will come back who knows, ah well
fading sapphire
His last message was "shit I've been found out, time to leave the server" 😅
lofty sorrel
I assumed it was a joke, but ig not
solemn ridge
It was probably another thing for attention tbh
worthy helm
on topic tho I was getting tha maskedupdate bug as well.
lofty sorrel
on topic tho I was getting tha maskedupdate bug as well.
Where they spawn unresponsive?
Just standing still, default skin?
solemn ridge
I do genuinely wonder what causes that
solemn ridge
Yeah it'll wear the suit, but lack the cosmetics and have the mask on
and be unable to move
lofty sorrel
Oh it had your suit but not cosmetics?
worthy helm
lofty sorrel
Do you have a log and or a modlist for that game?
worthy helm
it surprised me since I had MaskedOverhaul for while now (two months), and I had just changed to mirage from skinwalkers. Ah I had a friend who died on a landmine and changed into a mimic. We downed her, and she got teleported but her mimic body would persist to every moon we went to.
buoyant skiff
Do you have TakeThatMaskOff?
worthy helm
Nope
solemn ridge
Do you have TakeThatMaskOff?
I've tried with and without that mod
didn't make a diff
buoyant skiff
Not you.
solemn ridge
I've had this bug too though so it's relavent
buoyant skiff
Ah.
worthy helm
i loved maskedthedead but that i think its a broke mod and would spawn 5x mimics on one body if a scrap mask was present lol.
lofty sorrel
Do you have a log and or a modlist for that game?
I sent this msg at an awkward time you might not have seen it
Ayyobee
worthy helm
cuz all it was, was that maskedenemy update
lofty sorrel
Shit went real wrong in there. If there's any way you can cut down the size that would be easier but I don't mind doing that myself
worthy helm
if you want the mods, its my modpack on my banner/discord thing. I have a modpack yes.
lol its still loading into discord now
I can cut it down, but I'll leave it here for others to gander
lofty sorrel
Getting home in probably 45 to have a look at everything and hopefully gather more info on what the issue is exactly
worthy helm
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solemn ridge
I've not had any issues with MaskTheDead btw
worthy helm
is it still v1.0.5?
solemn ridge
Yeah
tawny shore
Wow this is awesome, something I always wanted from the Skinwalkers mod 🙂
worthy helm
hmmm 🤷 maybe I'll give it another go. Rarely seeing mask scrap nowadays and mostly on Atlas Abyss.
solemn ridge
All my masked related mods lol, I recently readded TakeThatMaskOff since they added the bool option to fix compat with MEO
solemn ridge
Yeah it has a compatibility option for Mirage
and fixes a bug with enemy spawn rates that normal MEO has
worthy helm
do you recall what the bug was? Spawn rate too high? Or too low?
pulsar lotus
Nah, it conflicts with the portable terminal in AC
AC has a portable terminal ?! i need to use AC...
worthy helm
alright I cut down from 6063782 lines to 2546 of this bug since the enemyupdate was all of those lines at the end anyways and error started after we got to Dine.
solemn ridge
do you recall what the bug was? Spawn rate too high? Or too low?
Would cause enemy spawn rates to go nuts, so say after you went to rend several times you would get more dogs and giants than you should
lofty sorrel
Were you on Atlas Abyss?
lofty sorrel
Alright yeah, related to the issue we're currently diagnosing. Did you have any working Masked spawn on the map?
Or did you see any broken?
lofty sorrel
What mods do you have that allow them to spawn on all planets?
bitter harness
I'm using meoFork and Mirage
worthy helm
Would cause enemy spawn rates to go nuts, so say after you went to rend several ...
hmmm, I got a good assortment of moons to go to but if it happens after going to one too many times, thas something I have to try because I don't think I had any problems. hmm 🤷
bitter harness
installed meofork today and set it up in a way that was recommended to me
lofty sorrel
Did you change any of the enemy spawning settings in the preset for AC?
bitter harness
OH yeah, and this might be relevant: I tweaked the bracken spawn chance for vow specifically from 80 to 40 in the AC lobby launch menu
worthy helm
I got AC as well but I don't change enemy spawns no. Just default spawn preset already given by the mod.
well other than Mirage spawn/MEO spawn rates for masked duh
bitter harness
OH yeah, and this might be relevant: I tweaked the bracken spawn chance for vow ...
They told me that the masked spawn chance by meo is directly mirrored from the bracken spawn chance (which is very high on vow), so I lowered it
solemn ridge
hmmm, I got a good assortment of moons to go to but if it happens after going to...
You should use the Fork anyways because it has a compat option for Mirage
bitter harness
with the default 80 bracken value, I was getting at LEAST one, but moreso two masked spawning at 8am
lofty sorrel
with the default 80 bracken value, I was getting at LEAST one, but moreso two ma...
So in MEO you had "Use Vanilla Spawns" set to false?
bitter harness
Yes.
I wanted vanilla spawns first, but then I found out that that way they don't spawn on every moon, which is something I would like, cause I really like the interactions with them.
This was all configured today with all the mods updated to newest
lofty sorrel
Alright good to know, thank you
solemn ridge
Yeah the natural spawns option actually conflicts with MEO's spawning on Tier 3 moons from what I discovered
So you wanna not toggle that on
But with it on it's a great way to replicate them standing at the vent staring at you
Lol
thin sonnet
LethalResonance is an instant perma addition
Thanks!
bitter harness
No modded moons active
I do have LLL active though if that matters.