Mirage

[timber notch]

(Weird way of putting it, but I assume you know what I mean)

I had the same issue with Huntdown at some point, and I think I have the log for it saved

So it could potentially be of use if I can find it

[chilly raven]

Yes killed me each time we landed in orbit it would attack but you can't take damage so no death

There is a similiar issue with masked which has them only visible for host and broken

[timber notch]

Oh it even stayed in orbit???

[chilly raven]

Yeah

[timber notch]

That’s wild

[formal basin]

i did have dog that stood frozen in place indeed
and i saw that dog walking minutes ago

[timber notch]

For me it was the interior

[timber notch]

I ended up killing it because the hit would register and just not give feedback

[chilly raven]

6 total dogs where attached

[timber notch]

With I didn’t because I would’ve loved to keep it to scare tf out of people lol

But yeah it sounds like, at least for the orbit side, the behaviour was the same

[chilly raven]

They would even roar while in orbit

[timber notch]

Oh yeah it’d roar and attack

But phased right through

[chilly raven]

once we landed they'd it would be able to pathfind again

Stayed at the company too lol

[timber notch]

So yeah I’ll try and find that log, could have a connection

[chilly raven]

The biggest root cause of this I have seen is if two masked entries are noted in the logs

But this time it isn't there

[formal basin]

thats what I've had on March actually

[timber notch]

Gotta say walking into this was terrifying

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184645577582071911/1194906451882291311/20240111033416_1.jpg?ex=65b20e5a&is=659f995a&hm=9cce48313c029236cd3e8637ab413e8835bfeec1b280db2cbb54cba607a768bc&

But I found the log and my modlist

Even better— I have TWO logs of it!

Modlist:

Logs: #1187785667833511996 message

[deft cape]

oh wait are you running into the lag issue as well @timber notch

[timber notch]

@chilly raven experienced the same issue but with dogs

And I experienced it with dogs a month ago

[deft cape]

like the not despawning thing?

[timber notch]

So I was thinking maybe looking at the old log could find what causes it

Yeah

[deft cape]

i don't think your logs had mirage in it right? so it's likely not from mirage then

[timber notch]

Nope it didn’t. It might be a conflict or both mods had the same problem

It was caused by Huntdown

Considering it’s a similar issue I thought I might as well send it

[dark brook]

Can't say anything about the lags cause I already play at like 2 frames an hour, but yeah, first part is for sure happening. Also only tested on a modded moon

[deft cape]

slideshow lethal company does not sound fun at all 😭

@dark brook do you mind sending me a profile code that has that issue

trying to replicate the issue

mb if you already sent it, i couldn't find it

[dark brook]

np I'm gonna find it in a bit

[deft cape]

tyty

[dark brook]

018da77f-8a82-e988-63a1-821bdce99d7b

if this one doesn't work for some reason then

018da8cb-b036-efd7-4c67-76eba3909598

but this is the one with mirage tweaked to non-default settings and I removed a couple mods that I don't think should affect issue, but the two were Lethal Escape and LethalPresents

[deft cape]

gotcha gonna try it out, thx

[dark brook]

yeah I also think I might have some logging disabled in bepin 😬 and a lot of cosmetics

so for the latter you might wanna install-uninstall more company so it gets rids of them all

[deft cape]

oof yeah this modpack is huge, might be hard for me to even test

[dark brook]

I think there were at least a couple more packs that had the same issue but didn't have a lot of mods

[deft cape]

all good i'll test with this for now

well one thing is for sure, there's a patch that i thought i deleted that i forgot to remove...

that's causing the error on MaskedPlayerEnemy.Start

but not sure what would be the cause of the lag still (unless that's related)

[dark brook]

well I didn't have the lag I think, sorry for exaggerating with the 2fps company, everyone in my group is running a pretty powerful rig and it's a pretty heavy modpack, so it was hard to notice even if it did happen. But it wasn't the stuttering bracken levels of lag for sure

[formal basin]

i get like 30-40 instead of 50-60fps when log errors start showing up

[solemn ridge]

so with MEO Fork I take it natural spawns should be off? I had it on and I had masked spawn on Rend just standing at the vent unable to move lmfao

I can't think of what else would cause that bug other than MEO spawns and Mirage natural spawns conflicting probably

Cus they would spawn properly from MEO on other planets that weren't tier 3

[dark brook]

With the mask on?

[solemn ridge]

Yeah they would stand there wearing the mask unable to move

[dark brook]

oooohhhh and we got another one @deft cape

[solemn ridge]

I'm guessing it's caused by natural spawns cus I had 2 mimics spawn on March just fine and they were walking around as normal

[dark brook]

can you share your modlist/modpack and if you have it the log also?

[deft cape]

natural spawns isn't the issue for sure, but yeah could you send a profile code so i could try to replicate the issue?

[solemn ridge]

018db054-ef35-1131-36e2-119dc56dd135 Okay well I disabled natural spawns on this so you may wanna reenable it XD

[deft cape]

so with SpawnOnPlayerDeath, the issue never happens right

[solemn ridge]

Only had them not be able to move and stand outside of the vent like that on Rend

Yeah, I ended up turning that off though and as I said with it off they spawned properly on March mimicing me and my friend

[deft cape]

ah

[dark brook]

has anyone reported it happening on a moon that doesn't have masked spawns? cause this all feels too fishy to just be a coincidence

[solemn ridge]

So idk what causes it

[deft cape]

weird that it'd spawn on march, since it should be only on modded moons where natural spawns ignore the EnableNaturalSpawns setting

[solemn ridge]

MEO would manage the march spawn

[deft cape]

well i think the issue is specifically with masked enemies (and somehow dogs) right now

[dark brook]

was it meo or meo fork?

[solemn ridge]

That's probs why

Meo Fork

[deft cape]

ah yeah it probably is then, you'd wanna disable spawns on there if you want to rely on only SpawnOnPlayerDeath

[solemn ridge]

Yeah my guess is when I had Natural Spawns enabled, when on Rend it was conflicting with MEO Fork's spawn settings

Idk though

[dark brook]

And I think you mentioned modded moons ignoring the vanilla spawns options?

[dark brook]

I think rend naturally spawns masked

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I'm guessing I just need to leave that setting unticked when pairing it with MEO Fork

[deft cape]

oh wait i think i'm getting confused

you mean you set SpawnOnPlayerDeath to 0 and EnableNaturalSpawns to true right

[solemn ridge]

Yeah

[deft cape]

isn't it normal that it spawns in rend then

or whatever it was

[solemn ridge]

Yeah it is

So it was likely overriding the way MEO spawns them with vanilla behavior

something conflicted and they just stood there stuck

Idk though

[deft cape]

pheeeew your modpack loads so fast

now i'll be able to test easily (hopefully)

[dark brook]

nah them staying still isn't a meo issue

[deft cape]

not meo for sure

it's probably mirage

[solemn ridge]

Okay so it's just a bug when Natural Spawns are on then

[deft cape]

it's too common of a factor for everyone here to likely be a different mod

hopefully i'll be able to figure out something today

[dark brook]

probably, I think all the reports so far have been on either moons that have natural masked spawns or modded moons

[solemn ridge]

Yeah so for now I'll leave that option unticked and see if masks can spawn from MEO on Rend then

[deft cape]

yep i have a bit of an idea of what to check

[solemn ridge]

Lol Twitch died

[lofty sorrel]

Can someone @ me if a cause is found, I'm too invested but also I need to sleep and have work in the morning so won't be able to check myself

[deft cape]

really appreciate all the the time/effort you put into finding out the issue

i'll try and remember to ping if i find out

[lofty sorrel]

I'm not gonna cry if you don't remember don't worry bout it

[formal basin]

alright i got home
time to fiddle around and find out

[deft cape]

oh wait perfect @formal basin send me your profile code when you're able to

[dark brook]

we appreciate it even more that you dedicate your time to finding and fixing it

[formal basin]

sure i gotta install the modmanager first

[deft cape]

ah right i forgot you said you still need to install all the mods

[formal basin]

yeah 🥲
imagine if it all starts working when i install them again lol

[deft cape]

nah doubt it

so many ppl are having an issue rn

it's 100% something with mirage rn

[deft cape]

do you have rendering issues with this modpack? the screen is constantly flicking for me

ngl i don't think i can test this profile, it's making me a bit nauseous

[dark brook]

ayo?

[formal basin]

epilepsy pack

[deft cape]

alright time to try your other profile blade

the first profile you had didn't really load properly for me (i couldn't get into LAN, but it works on online)

[dark brook]

it's the same profile minus 2 mods😭

[deft cape]

ah fuck

LOL

[dark brook]

can you screenshot the mod list? sounds like a specific mod issue

[deft cape]

at this point i might have to just wait till gorenbeda finishes making their profile

[dark brook]

might be able to make that one playable lol

[deft cape]

is there a way i can just grab only the text

gonna have to do multiple screenshots

[formal basin]

ill make the profile and launch it to see if the issue persists
gotta set up the config too

[deft cape]

sounds good tyty

[dark brook]

there's a mod for that yeah
but id appreciate screenshots cause I'm on mobile rn

[solemn ridge]

Nah I haven't had any rendering issues, you can try removing FOV_Adjust though that might be causing it

Idk what else it'd be

[deft cape]

there's a couple extra mods i added for debugging purposes

(autostart, dancetools, devtools)

[deft cape]

ah alright i'll try that

[solemn ridge]

Yeah cus I use that to disable the visor effect

Not sure if it introduces flickering on some displays

[dark brook]

fov and hd def seem like they could be affecting that

given that you also import the configs

[deft cape]

i'll just remove hd as well for the test

oh hey that fixed it

good catch y'all

i can actually look at it without feeling nauseous now

uh unrelated but what mod is this

this is sick

[solemn ridge]

GeneralImprovements

[deft cape]

oh shit ima try that next time i play thx

yikes natural spawns is working fine for me with this modpack

so i still can't even replicate the issue

[dark brook]

maybe it's online exclusive?

[solemn ridge]

Could be that

[deft cape]

highlight doubt it tbh

how often does the issue even happen

think im going to need more specific details on how to replicate it

[solemn ridge]

Also I just replaced HDLethalCompany with LCUltraWide since I've seen people reporting issues with it

Well it happened consistently for me, I also at the time in MEO Fork had the zombie arms and mask removal changes disabled

[dark brook]

hard to say considering I don't know if it's moon specific or not spawn table-wise

Probably same yeah, every moon that could spawn masked had it

[deft cape]

ughh this is going to be really hard to fix just because i can't run into the same issue

i wonder if it's more that spawning it via dancetools or devtools doesn't cause the same issue

[solemn ridge]

Might be

[deft cape]

im just gonna go to titan and wait for masked to spawn or something

[solemn ridge]

Maybe wait for the mask to spawn in naturally on Rend?

[dark brook]

you can try running eclipse atlas

that moon has like 50/50 dog masked ratio

[solemn ridge]

He could use the eclipsed only mod in vanilla

[deft cape]

atlass abyss right

[solemn ridge]

and go to eclipsed rend

[deft cape]

oh true

[solemn ridge]

Incase custom moons won't replicate

[dark brook]

and you can try running a second lan instance to be able to spectate the masked that spawn

[dark brook]

yeah

[dark brook]

*with spectate enemies that is

[deft cape]

oh good idea

also isn't this related to the issues from today/yesterday

but i think someone mentioned that masked that spawn through a vent and get stuck is a vanilla issue

[dark brook]

ask if the stuck masked also ignored the remove mask option

cause vanilla has masked that just get stuck problems

[deft cape]

ah bet i'll go ask

[willow lily]

ULTRAKILL MENTIONED 🔥

[dark brook]

oh and about consistency

something I forgot to mention is that I did have naturally spawned mimics that worked normally

[deft cape]

hmm wait so how often did the issue happen for you? i think for most reports so far it's been something that sometimes happens, sometimes doesn't

[dark brook]

def not constantly, at least the ones that I did notice

it's hard to tell cause you could probably play a match and never see the poor fella, esp with the fact that they're unspectatable on host

but when I first reported it I thought it to be an issue with spawns, cause in the same match I had the random spawn working mimics (despite having vanilla spawns turned off)

But then you told me that modded moons don't respect that setting or something along the lines

[deft cape]

i think the issue just has to do with masked enemy spawns in general, not just natural spawns

i'm curious for the people who have intense lag, if it's related to this issue though

cuz so far it seems like it's all similar "symptoms" (idk a better term for it)

also can't tell if the lag issue only happens on lower end pcs right now

also i've got some naturally spawned masked enemies on an eclipsed atlas, still nothing

i legit can't replicate this issue 😭

[solemn ridge]

So I can confirm if you were talking about the fog flickering and stuff on Rend before

That was caused by HDLethalCompany

It doesn't happen with LCUltraWide and the performance inside the ship is way better too

I saw somewhere there were reports of HDLethalCompany causing compat issues with some mods cus it touches visual effects and stuff that it shouldn't so this comes as no surprise to me

It's also not been updated in 2 months so I think it's safe to consider it essentially abandonware now as well

[deft cape]

ah ic

[lament mica]

You need a poopy pc?
I got you lol
I was gifted a 10 year old pc.
What do you need me to test.

[deft cape]

LOL

hmm well i'll ping you when there's a reproducible way to replicate the issue people have been having

cuz the error doesn't even show up for me right now, despite using the same profile code

[lament mica]

Sounds good.

[formal basin]

i've got the pack working
gotta test it for myself and see
ill send it after that

[upbeat compass]

the best type of issue

[deft cape]

fr 😭

[deft cape]

sounds good lmk

[formal basin]

probably should have changed the masked spawn rates

[deft cape]

try using devtools or dancetools to manually spawn them

[formal basin]

im not sure manual spawning can replicate the issue properly

[solemn ridge]

btw qwbarch if you liked my old monitor setup I just switched it to this

[deft cape]

oh it's that customizable? that's pretty sick

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I love it

[deft cape]

manual spawning should still trigger the same functions anyways, either way i couldn't replicate it with natural nor manual spawns

yea im def gonna try that mod out next time i play 👀

[small glacier]

Very customizable :3

The two in the top middle are from QualityCompany

(I can't change the color of the ones from QualityCompany so I had to match that green)

[solemn ridge]

A fellow user of CorporateRestructureWeather I see lol

[small glacier]

I dunno that mod, all of it is from GeneralImprovements

Besides the two from QualityCompany

[solemn ridge]

the weather on the planet display is from CorporateRestructure or CorporateRestructureWeather

Unless QualityCompany integrated it

[small glacier]

Ohhh the colored "Flooded" text in the bottom center?

[solemn ridge]

yeah

[small glacier]

I don't have CorporateRestructure or CorporateRestructureWeather installed, tryna remember where that's from

[formal basin]

masked has spawned, no errors shown up

[deft cape]

gg

i'm so sad that it's this hard to replicate

[small glacier]

What error are you tryna replicate?

[formal basin]

masked missing ai/log spamming errors

[small glacier]

Now I'm confus... It's not toggleable so I can't find it in config files. Could be AdvancedCompany that's doing it?

[small glacier]

Oh, gotcha—all good for me

[formal basin]

well i guess mod manager really cleaned up my files
it was really messy there

[deft cape]

so your modpack doesn't have any issues at all now?

i'm still pretty sure the issue exists in mirage since others have it

[formal basin]

not that i've seen right away

[dark brook]

||....yet||

[deft cape]

it'll happen during an actual game session instead of testing 😔

[small glacier]

Do we have the modpack of someone who gets the error? I could try looking for it

[remote iris]

ye we do

[dark brook]

I really don't wanna rule out the possibility of this being an online only issue, given that there were even mods that just didn't work on LAN like morecompany

[formal basin]

we're probably gonna play again with my friends today and see if something goes wrong
i'll remove MEO though as i found out that i don't need it anymore

[small glacier]

Can I get code? :3
Thanks either way

[deft cape]

i honestly highly doubt it when it comes to this specific issue but if it still can't be replicated, maybe it is

[remote iris]

lemem go find it

[deft cape]

there's this one

(but i couldn't replicate the error)

[dark brook]

this one is by far the lightest lmao

[remote iris]

018db0b4-7a77-841c-99ac-5adccfdee29d

[deft cape]

i think you're supposed to just spawn masked enemies and it should error on MaskedPlayerEnemy.Start (and maybe MaskedPlayerEnemy.Update

but nothing happens for me at all

[small glacier]

Thanks!

[remote iris]

this is b1adewo1lf's

[deft cape]

they use the correct suit and mimicks the voice as well

[dark brook]

I suggest using the one qwbarch provided instead

mine is

uh

trust me when I say you don't wanna use it

[remote iris]

u have 50 mods less than mine lol

[deft cape]

i almost fell asleep by the time it loaded 😭

[errant cypress]

So ... where can I donate to you barch? :P

[formal basin]

what do they use instead of modelreplacementapi models? just the vanilla suit?

[deft cape]

oh i appreciate it but i don't really need donations, thanks though ❤️

[dark brook]

yeah that's an issue with having a dozen cosmetic mods with a ton of moons kills the loading times

[remote iris]

mine takes like 4 mins to load lol

[small glacier]

Luckily I can disable them without having to wait 20 mins now B)

[formal basin]

alright i'll save the config just in case

[deft cape]

yeah try out bladewolf's then, since i've already tried the other one

[formal basin]

but no issues so far

[deft cape]

oof

good for your play session, but i was hoping i'd be able to test with your profile code lmaoo

[remote iris]

ive just watched a lethal company vid and it had one of the most movie sounding scream lol

[formal basin]

actually scrolled through atlas abyss spawnlist and there isn't even an outside masked spawn chance
i wonder how it got there last time

[dark brook]

through the door probably

[remote iris]

they updated

and removed outside spawns

yesterday

[small glacier]

Oh I didn't know that

Luckily I'm using an old version B)

[formal basin]

ooh alright

maybe that fixed it? cause i've seen errors when it spawned outside

[deft cape]

that's the exact same error that @chilly raven was having then

[dark brook]

might've fixed the lag part

but not the mimicking that's for sure

[deft cape]

hmm the lag thing though

ok wait so who exactly had the lag issue here

i just need to know if the mimicking thing is related to the lag issue

cuz if the lag issue has been fixed from atlas abyss' new update

[formal basin]

i did have lag because of the log spamming

[deft cape]

then that's unrelated to mirage

yeah that was from the MaskedPlayerEnemy.Update spam IIRC

[formal basin]

you could try to replicate outiside spawning with MEO fork i guess

[deft cape]

wondering who else has the lag issue and if every person who has the issue also has atlas abyss installed

[deft cape]

ah true

[dark brook]

you could try with a downgraded atlas also

[remote iris]

i just embraced the lag (my pc isn't that good paired up with 170 mods. i just act like im playing normally so my friends with better pcs can enjoy the game)

[formal basin]

poor sovl

[deft cape]

w friend

[deft cape]

yeah im kinda dumb 😂

[formal basin]

lag of what kind? have you checked the console when lag occured?

[deft cape]

wait @formal basin do you still happen to have your "manual modpack"?

cuz if you do

do you mind trying a previous version of mirage

to see if the issue comes up

[formal basin]

did you update mirage today?

[deft cape]

nope but

if you could try 1.0.11 that'd be great

i'm trying to rule out possible issues

whether or not maybe one of my bug fixes created a new bug

[timber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/indie-game-meme-quarter-ultrakill-gif-26112589

[formal basin]

i've had 1.0.13 in my previous manual pack

[deft cape]

yeah that's what i was assuming

[formal basin]

you wanna me to launch the old pack with 1.0.11 version? i could try that

[deft cape]

i just mean if you could try out 1.0.11, if it still errors then that rules out what im thinking might be an issue

ya that'd be great

tyty

[formal basin]

i'll launch it with 1.0.13 ver to see if it starts lagging firstly
there's also older version of atlas abyss installed

[remote iris]

i run at 20-50 fps but its fine

[dark brook]

I'm gonna test online later today

[deft cape]

true yeah gotta make sure the error shows up on that again first

[deft cape]

oh no errors?

why is this so impossible to replicate 💀

[deft cape]

tyty i appreciate it

[formal basin]

tried cullfactory? good performance mod

[remote iris]

i do have it

but like 170 mods

[trim anchor]

oh mah gahwd

[remote iris]

and they dont wanna remove the laggy cosmetic mods like emotes

[trim anchor]

synced voice mimicing is real

[remote iris]

because they just like spamming them

[formal basin]

oh well

[dark brook]

@deft cape oh btw can you drop me the tweaked code that you tested for convenience sake

profile code I mean

lynxara's but with your additions

[deft cape]

oh yeah 1 sec

[deft cape]

yeeee

[remote iris]

this clip is fire

[deft cape]

@dark brook 018db0c5-602a-d7bb-4508-2a8ae18d353b

[dark brook]

tyty

[remote iris]

that scream lol

[trim anchor]

my goat 🐐

[deft cape]

LOOOOL THAT SCREAM

[dark brook]

any settings I should change or all good there?

[deft cape]

whys the footsteps so loud in that clip

[deft cape]

not sure if i changed anything right before i stopped testing it, but it should be good to go

[remote iris]

idk lol but that scream is voice acting material lol

[deft cape]

that's the kinda scream that i'd watch clips of that made me buy the game

[remote iris]

oh wait i dont think those are footsteps those are the lethalresonance fear paranoia sound

[small glacier]

I should have... checked for Mimics mod

[deft cape]

OH SO THATS WHAT I WAS HEARING WHEN HEROBRINE WAS CHASING ME

[dark brook]

LMAO

[deft cape]

never knew it was from lethalressonance

[small glacier]

I believe that is meant to be your own heartbeat :3

[remote iris]

i think its supposed to be your heart

[dark brook]

I remember getting legitimately jimpscarwd by a masked when testing some mods

[deft cape]

lmfaoooooooooo that scream is actually too funny

[dark brook]

this game istg

[deft cape]

yeah i realized after what you mentioned 😂

[timber notch]

I'm very late to the convo but this is my monitor setup lol

[small glacier]

Naisu! :3

Also how do I make it so the black box with the debug stuff in it shows while I'm playing again? Either using this Profile Code or restarting my computer has caused it to vanish and it didn't show up this time

[dark brook]

huh? what black box

[deft cape]

honestly if this issue comes from the AC cosmetics fix for hosts

i might have to revert that patch

but not confirmed yet so i'm holding off for now

[small glacier]

Oh I see the issue

[deft cape]

OH WHAT HOW'D YOU REPLICATE IT

[small glacier]

The thing that shows when you launch modded

[dark brook]

that sounds funny cause

[dark brook]

HAHAHAHA WE GOT HIM

WE GOT THE BASTARD

[deft cape]

HOWWWWWWWWW

[small glacier]

IDK this is the first time it spawned for me and it is standing still

[deft cape]

IVE BEEN TRYING TO REPLICATE IT ALL NIGHT

[timber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/ladies-and-gentleman-we-got-him-gif-12313683

[deft cape]

WHAT THE FKKKK

[dark brook]

GET HIS ASS

[deft cape]

@small glacier can u send me the profile code, you disabled a bunch of stuff right

[small glacier]

I didn't change anything

[deft cape]

alright ill just let it sit for a couple mins while it loads, fuck it

[remote iris]

we must know your ways

[small glacier]

Just in case you need it anyway (if I did in fact change something accidentally) here you go!

018db0ce-5af9-d45b-77c7-206034d76866

[dark brook]

which code did you use

[deft cape]

tyty

i really hope the error pops up for me this time 🙏

[remote iris]

can u send the log @small glacier

[small glacier]

I would but that's the black box I was talking about which is missing

How do I get it without the black box?

[dark brook]

I still don't get what you're referencing 😭

[small glacier]

Peepers jumped on me while I was tabbed out, scared me XD

[remote iris]

the consoe

console/log

[deft cape]

oh that's the console, blade has it turned off by default. it's in the bepinex.cfg

[dark brook]

ah the bepin console?

[small glacier]

Yeeee the cmd-looking thingy

Thank you :3

[dark brook]

yeyeye

[small glacier]

I don't wanna exit the game just in case I can still grab it somehow while I'm ingame

Is there another way to get the debug info?

[deft cape]

should be in your bepinex folder i think

of wherever your profile is

[dark brook]

you should really double check if I have logging levels that you might need enabled

[small glacier]

I didn't even know you could turn it off :3

[deft cape]

still waiting while it downloads everything LOL but yeah i'll double check

think im just gonna make food while this downloads

[formal basin]

are you playing on an older version of atlas abyss?

[dark brook]

haha lmao

[small glacier]

Yes, that's the version I was given in the Profile code

1.1.7

[remote iris]

i didn't update nothing

so ye

[dark brook]

@deft cape I hope you removed all the cosmetic packs 😭

oh wrong ping

[remote iris]

i kept everything unupdated

[small glacier]

I'm so glad I can actually use the search bar without 1000 seconds of waiting

[dark brook]

what how

did R2 get an update?

[formal basin]

for some reason trying to replicate the issue now on an older profile and NO enemies spawned naturally and its 5 PM

[small glacier]

Mhm!

[willow lily]

Yup

[dark brook]

bruh

[remote iris]

IM DITCHING OVERWOLF

[dark brook]

on thank lord

[remote iris]

overwolf did run better than the older version of r2

but since it updates

updated*

im switching back

[small glacier]

Dog spawned on top of me and I ded

[dark brook]

I have lethaldev something something in the pack

you can turn it on for invincibility

[small glacier]

Nice, thx :3

[remote iris]

OH THE SMOOTHNESS

THE LOADING

[small glacier]

Exactly!!!

They actually fixed it

It had been so long I forgor how buttons were supposed to feel

[remote iris]

yeah lol

r2modman felt so bad

[formal basin]

i think i've broken something somehow with spawnchances
i've set masked to be very high and no one is spawning

[remote iris]

no satisfaction in clicking anything

NOW I CAN FEEL IT

[deft cape]

i'm surprised a search function takes that long to run for a small amount of entries

[formal basin]

i guess i got modmanager at the right time lol

[deft cape]

after setting it back it's still broken? 🤔

[formal basin]

its worse

no one is spawning at all

no dogs, no centipedes, no masked

[dark brook]

ebkr said that it was the yellow update bar killing everything iirc

[deft cape]

what the

[deft cape]

ohhh

[formal basin]

i've set the chance of naturall spawned masked from MEO to be VERY high (150)

[small glacier]

Just in case you need my exact steps, all I did was...
Launch the game without console (oops)
forcecredits 10000, spend 300 to route to Atlas Abyss
Land ship on Atlas Abyss
Go inside, get four scraps, die to Fire Escape Mimic
Land ship again
Tab out of game, standing on the ship either the railing or the floor itself IDK
Tab back in, Masked is immediately in the corner of my eye just standing still

[formal basin]

that might be the issue

[deft cape]

thanks a lot, that'll help a ton

[dark brook]

you sure you're not confusing it with weight?

[formal basin]

weight, yeah

[dark brook]

cause higher weight is lower spawn chance

[formal basin]

is it?

[dark brook]

if I'm remembering this right

ye

[formal basin]

default on atlas abyss for masked is 100 and lower for everything else

[dark brook]

oh then I must be mistaking it for something else

weird

[formal basin]

still that won't make sense if no one is spawning

[dark brook]

I've only seen weight go as high as 5...

for shrimp..

[formal basin]

this setting in MEO

[dark brook]

oh that's not weight

[deft cape]

Go inside, get four scraps, die to Fire Escape Mimic
does this moon spawn a mimic right after grabbing 4 scraps

[timber notch]

Just clued up my modpack work for the night

[small glacier]

Nono, Mimic, not Masked

[dark brook]

the mimic is a canon event

[deft cape]

im dumb

so many people call masked enemies a mimic

i get them confused now

[dark brook]

true lmao

[timber notch]

Saaaame

[dark brook]

I'm guilty of that myself

[small glacier]

That's why I said "Fire Escape Mimic" with capital letters :3

[deft cape]

i am now too since everyone calls them mimics 😭

yeah whoops LOOL

[small glacier]

I have caught myself calling Masked "mimics" too, don't worry :3

It doesn't help that people will also call any creature that talks to you with Skinwalkers mimics, too... "Is that a mimic or is that real?"

[deft cape]

yeah LOL

it's got so many names i assume they're all referring to masked enemies now

[timber notch]

THE SCREAM LMAOOO

[formal basin]

isn't it said in mirage that it adds voice mimics

[remote iris]

i still cant stop rewatching that

[deft cape]

well it's "voice mimicking"

[small glacier]

Maybe "mimics" is referring to the verbs they are doing

[deft cape]

maybe i should call it "voice imitation" instead

[deft cape]

yeah this

[formal basin]

yea it's mimicking voices andthe other is mimicking doors

[small glacier]

And Masked is mimicking players

We must put an end to this madness

[deft cape]

hahahaha i've contributed to the confusion

[formal basin]

i'll try to enable "use vanilla spawning" in MEO and see if it helps with enemy spawning on my older pack

[fading sapphire]

I used to use corporate but GI is really handy, it reduced the mod count on my profile by a good amount! I love all the little monitors 😍

[deft cape]

yeah those extra monitors are really nice

[dark brook]

corporate broke my modpack

[deft cape]

i have some mod exploring to do

[dark brook]

like killed it dead

wouldn't recommend to anyone unless it gets updated

[timber notch]

Yeah corporate crashed every time someone joined the lobby

[fading sapphire]

I can't say I've had any issues with it, then again my pack doesn't stray very far from the vanilla feel of the game

[remote iris]

wait whats gl

[timber notch]

GI

[remote iris]

general imrpovments?

[dark brook]

it kills lucky dice and that one cool boombox mod

[deft cape]

general improvements

[remote iris]

oh

[fading sapphire]

General Improvements

[remote iris]

its not an l

[small glacier]

Update, after starting new save with the only difference being that I can actually see the console now, they are walking in the distance—gonna die and reland to see if they will freeze again

[dark brook]

I see 7 pixels

[small glacier]

Actually those could have been spawned from inside, not even sure

[fading sapphire]

Minecraft torch

[timber notch]

Do we know what version of mirage these issues started in?

[dark brook]

nvm I had brightness on 0

[timber notch]

LMAO

[dark brook]

well now that we can replicate it we can check

[deft cape]

thats what im trying to figure out once i can reproduce the error

fuck

the game finally loaded

[small glacier]

XD

[deft cape]

but it sticks me into online mode

[small glacier]

Oh

[deft cape]

@dark brook which mod do you have that goes online automatically

[dark brook]

symphony

I think

[deft cape]

ah nice i've turned it off in the config now

[alpine raptor]

It is running a search over 20k mods and checking the title and description of them all

[deft cape]

yeah it's that

[deft cape]

oh they were talking about the "online mods" tab? i thought it was local mods

[alpine raptor]

oh maybe, i just woke up 👀

in which case i have no idea currently 👉😎👉

[deft cape]

hehe

well i was also just assuming it's about local mods since that happens for me as well

[dark brook]

I thought latest R2 update fixed that?

[formal basin]

okay now that i've enabled vanilla spawning in MEO it seems that it at least tries to spawn monsters

[dark brook]

or was it not what everyone was referring to

[deft cape]

if r2 doesn't have auto updates then i guess i don't have it 😭

[dark brook]

it does but they never work for me

[fading sapphire]

Latest r2modman update is crazy good

[deft cape]

im just gonna reinstall rn

[dark brook]

so good chance they also don't for you

[formal basin]

im so lost

[dark brook]

that's good

[formal basin]

wait it didn't tell whoi is it mimic-

nvm

[small glacier]

After landing again there is at least 1 Masked somewhere who is giving this error but I cannot tell where it is because it is Foggy

[formal basin]

oh

OH

there it goes

[deft cape]

NICE

WE GOT SOME REPRODUCIBLE ERRORS HERE

LETS GO

[formal basin]

thats on older pack with last version of mirage

[deft cape]

wait could you try v1.0.11

[formal basin]

i didn't lose much fps though
went from 85 to 70-75

[deft cape]

that's still pretty bad 😬

[formal basin]

oh and uhhh

i just saw a working masked

with these errors it was still walking towards me

[deft cape]

interesting

[formal basin]

my guess is

if i rejoin the map

it'll stay there frozen in place

[small glacier]

This masked (who was chasing me at the time) did not despawn from the level when I died to a dog after trying to buy a flashlight for the fog

[deft cape]

oh shit

i just downloaded the new update for r2

[small glacier]

POG

[deft cape]

it's buttery smooth now

[small glacier]

Mhmmmm!

[timber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[formal basin]

he didn't despawn

[deft cape]

niceee you reproduced that issue as well

[formal basin]

he is LAGGING

like

slowly walking

[deft cape]

did the dog happen to not despawn as well?

someone earlier mentioned that dogs were randomly not despawning as well

[small glacier]

I didn't see the dog then

HOWEVER

I died a second time...

[formal basin]

okay now it works

[small glacier]

Now these guys are here (hard to see)

[timber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-menacingly-spongebob-standing-there-gif-19452999

[small glacier]

Bees on the floor on an invisible hive

[deft cape]

🤔

[small glacier]

Dog on the left who cannot kill me

[deft cape]

wait you mean like, there's no error?

[small glacier]

Corpse of the working masked is still on the floor

[formal basin]

no there's still errors

but its not frozen in place

it's still trying to kill me

[small glacier]

BWEHEHEHHEH, Mirage just played back an audio of my keyboard typing to me

[formal basin]

even though i've lost the quota and got on the map again after day restarted

[timber notch]

So yeah this sounds like the dog issue I had in huntdown

[deft cape]

wow r2 is so buttery smooth it's actually so nice rn

[remote iris]

i might play with this sometime later

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Ethereal_Chiono/Lethal_Hardcore_Mode/

[remote iris]

yeah its satisfying

[deft cape]

ah right i forgot you mentioned that

[deft cape]

bro is too good at this game

i die every round

[remote iris]

im hella careful bro

[small glacier]

Whatever the issue is it could also be affecting multiple enemies and is probably not Mirage's fault

[dark brook]

I have 660 xp while my friend is at 2600

[remote iris]

i control those urges to go back a second time

[dark brook]

Idk how he does it

[small glacier]

That dog was unable to kill me even if I walked into it

[timber notch]

Read the description

[remote iris]

bro is tryharding

DAWG WHAT

BRO

[timber notch]

Get a shovel and try to kill it

[dark brook]

I'm assuming that is with invincibility turned off

[remote iris]

I JUST GOT TROLLED

[deft cape]

sounds related to the other person's issue

[timber notch]

If it’s the issue I had

It’ll look like you aren’t hitting it

[dark brook]

cause that's the first time I'm hearing the issues you're having rn

ngl

[timber notch]

But it’ll die after the correct amount of hits

[dark brook]

I only noticed the masked

[small glacier]

Now the hard part... which mod is actually causing this XD

[deft cape]

yeah im still not even sure if it's mirage yet still

[timber notch]

And if you kill it, it won’t come back

[formal basin]

i can hear masked mimicking my voice while in orbit

[remote iris]

we also have this one https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Sproutian/Permadeath/

[timber notch]

If that happens then it’s the same issue I had

[dark brook]

bru I've never had any issues with dogs how are you finding these bugs

in my own pack😭

[timber notch]

This was like a month ago with Huntdown

Lead to them fixing a bug and I got my name in the patch notes lol

[dark brook]

but I have never played with mirage save for that one session

[small glacier]

Even after not enough for quota and being ejected, immediately landing on Atlas shows the body still there—gonna land somewhere else to see if the logspam goes away

[dark brook]

and we didn't encounter any dogs that day

[small glacier]

Oh and the dog that couldn't kill me was still there as well

[deft cape]

well there's one easy way to see if it's mirage

[fading sapphire]

2600 is a lot?

[timber notch]

I had the dog issue without mirage

[deft cape]

play without mirage next session

and if it doesn't happen then it probably is mirage

[formal basin]

the dog didn't despawn too

[remote iris]

i barely get 500. (are we talking lethalexprience or advanced cuz im talking bout advanced lol)

[deft cape]

in fact if i can replicate this issue

[formal basin]

it runs around but doesn't attack me

[timber notch]

Get a shovel and try to kill it

[deft cape]

i'm gonna try and remove mirage if the error shows up for me

[timber notch]

Okay mine attacked me

[small glacier]

Alrighty I will disable Mirage and restart :3

[formal basin]

it died

[fading sapphire]

Ah I'm on about vanilla exp 😅 all this AC stuff goes over my head

[dark brook]

so we got two mirage players on diff modpacks seeing dogs that can't kill them

[timber notch]

Did it look like it wasn’t being hit?

[deft cape]

tyyyyy

[dark brook]

and despawning issues?

[formal basin]

i don't think dog has hit indication

even in vanilla

[buoyant skiff]

You can adjust XP gain.

[deft cape]

there's exp in the vanilla game??? wtf

[dark brook]

get hitmarkers mod

[remote iris]

oh vanilla? im boss rank i think 830 xp idk

[dark brook]

ye

[deft cape]

i guess im just a giga noob

[buoyant skiff]

Yes. It's meaningless.

[dark brook]

500 is boss

[deft cape]

oh

[timber notch]

Ah regardless, leave and go back in now and next landing it should be gone

[deft cape]

well no wonder i've never noticed

[small glacier]

Also I couldn't tell if it could kill me or not but just before I quit I jumped out of the ship at experimentation (clear weather) and a dog was there as I landed 0.0
It's even across planets

[remote iris]

i remember seeing 800

imma play a run and see

[timber notch]

If so than it’s the same issue I had a month ago

[fading sapphire]

Yeah cause I'm around 5k and I've seen people around 10k these days 😅

[deft cape]

what's the mod that had the issue again

im gonna check their patch notes

[dark brook]

nah

[deft cape]

see if i get any clues

[dark brook]

after 500 the xp bar breaks

[fading sapphire]

There's a handy little mod that shows your exp in the pause menu

[formal basin]

there's a lot more log spam in console now

[dark brook]

huntdown?

[deft cape]

ah it's huntdown

[fading sapphire]

And another handy little mod that fixes your exp bar rank overflow

[deft cape]

yeah

[formal basin]

fps went from 75 to 50

[timber notch]

Huntdown

[deft cape]

ah if it's from natural spawns

that wouldn't be from mirage then

[remote iris]

DAMN

[timber notch]

The good boy event is spawning the dog indoors

[deft cape]

the only spawning mirage does is the SpawnOnPlayerDeath thing

[small glacier]

Oh?? I play with Huntdown on my regular modpack and I don't get this kind of error

[timber notch]

Ye because they fixed it

[formal basin]

it's still there after day reset along with masked

[small glacier]

Oh is this an old version of Huntdown?

[timber notch]

That was on 1.4.0

They fixed it over a month ago, hence why I’m thanked for the report

[timber notch]

Hmm

[remote iris]

ive been on two mirage patches but only on discord

[small glacier]

I don't even have Huntdown on this profile—are we talkin' about a diff bug now?

[timber notch]

Same issue but on both sides

I didn’t have Mirage

[formal basin]

i will try to uninstall MEO and if issue persists downgrade mirage

[remote iris]

i was so confused did you change ur pfp

[timber notch]

Mine was interior so that could be why the body didn’t stay

[timber notch]

wdym

[deft cape]

wait try v1.0.11 mirage first

i don't think MEO is the issue honestly

[dark brook]

I don't even have meo

[formal basin]

okayy

[timber notch]

The first one is my general icon, my server icons been the ballin employee since I joined the server

I didn’t have MEO then either

[deft cape]

btw thanks again y'all for helping figure out the issue

i appreciate y'all

[timber notch]

Was playing with my friend who was completely unmodded

[remote iris]

why did it change like just rn

[timber notch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

discord

[small glacier]

[timber notch]

Happy to help! This is an awesome mod

tbh I’d consider it the definitive Lethal Company mod

[remote iris]

we almost getting to 50k!

[timber notch]

I used to say it was the combo of Skinwalkers and MEO

[deft cape]

i think last 2 days there's been a lot of random new people discovering mirage

[timber notch]

Poggg

[dark brook]

anything mimicking players is bound to get crazy popular

esp when it's so well done

[remote iris]

i remember the start when it was like me u and 3 other ppl lol

[deft cape]

lmfao yeah

y'know when i first launched

first 3 days there was nobody

[timber notch]

btw random question— through Mirage I hear a lot of my keyboard clacking. Is this how like other people would hear me when I play with them?? Or does mirage just use the raw audio

[deft cape]

i thought maybe i just wasted my time LOL

[dark brook]

and with meo's dev kinda not having time to work on the mod and skin dev can't figure out networking... you clearly have the upper hand here hahah

[remote iris]

yeah i saw ur mod but like i didn't talk much back then

[remote iris]

turns out u didn't lol

[dark brook]

ngl I added it to my watchlist instantly but less for the mimicking part and more for the spawn mask on death lmao

[deft cape]

mirage uses the raw audio yeah, if you wanan see what others can hear just go into game and try talking, and then check the mirage folder

[formal basin]

syncing things with other players really enchances the experience

[lilac saffron]

yes

[timber notch]

Okay phew I was gonna say if so I feel so bad for my friends lmao

[deft cape]

yeah i think lots of people just didn't like the initial features, since i had it going a different direction at first

[dark brook]

also I can't shake off the association with ultrakill's mirage whenever I think of this mod. must be a case of terminal brain rot

[deft cape]

wait i think we have a different definition of raw audio

[timber notch]

PFFFFT

[deft cape]

ah all good LOL i'm pretty happy with how it's turned out nowadays

[deft cape]

yeah that was probably a good reason a lot of people didn't bother using it, but i also never knew it was that unpopular of an idea until a couple people mentioned it later on

[timber notch]

basically if I can hear the mirage clacking would that mean everyone I play with can hear my clacking?

[formal basin]

i mean yeah the "spawn on player death" is not for everyone as it's different from the "intented" experience of LC so i can see that

[deft cape]

well since everyone hears the same audio, yeah 😭

[remote iris]

i was gonna install it but like it only had push to talk and nobody in my group used that soo yeee

[deft cape]

i do have plans on filtering out the audio a bit better later on though

[timber notch]

no no I meant like from my mic

[deft cape]

oh yeah that was another issue

[timber notch]

Like from me

[deft cape]

oh like from your voice chat?

[timber notch]

Yeah

[deft cape]

i only use whatever dissonance gives me (the voice chat system)

[dark brook]

oh yeah push to talk was the killer for me

[formal basin]

it uses in-game voice input

[dark brook]

I rember now

[deft cape]

so if the voice mimic that uses your audio clips has the sound, then yeah others can hear you clicking on your keyboard normally

[dark brook]

then I waited for the ac cosmetic support to come

[timber notch]

I think I just need to message my friends and ask like hey do y’all get deafened my my keyboard

[deft cape]

LOL

[timber notch]

[dark brook]

now you can just find your mimic and ask him that lmao

[small glacier]

1. I didn't have to die for it to trigger
   and 2. It's not Mirage

[deft cape]

OH

SHIt

[timber notch]

IT’S SO LOUD WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME IT’S BEEN MONTHS

[deft cape]

THATS HUGE

[timber notch]

CALLED IT!!!

[dark brook]

what is it????

[formal basin]

i got used to push to talk because of my keyboard sounds

[deft cape]

@small glacier THANKS FOR CONFIRMING IT 🙏 🙏 🙏

[timber notch]

I KNEW IT WAS THE SAME ISSUE

[small glacier]

❤️ Of course ^w^;;

[lilac saffron]

W

[deft cape]

LOOOL your friends are tolerant

[formal basin]

yea you dont have to die it starts as soon as masked spawns

at least for me

[deft cape]

wait so it might be a mod that handles spawns

[remote iris]

ig their brains muted it lol

[deft cape]

considering that was the issue with huntdown

[remote iris]

AND NOW UR BACK TO THE OTHER PFP DAWG WHAT

[dark brook]

ok so can we run a comparison of your modlists @formal basin @small glacier

[timber notch]

Discord moment

I posted my modlist when I had the issue

[formal basin]

@deft cape 1.0.11 still puts out errors in logs

[timber notch]

^

[deft cape]

oh yeah @small glacier just confirmed the issue still happens when mirage isn't installed

so it's not an issue with mirage at all

[formal basin]

really? oh damn

[deft cape]

it's possible another mod that handles spawns is doing the same issue that huntdown did

[dark brook]

we need to get down to a common denominator then

[formal basin]

okay

[dark brook]

and then maybe go from there

[deft cape]

yeah the real question now is which mod

[timber notch]

It’s also possible that Huntdown didn’t fix the issue and I just didn’t experience it again because the initial dog spawn issue was fixed

[lament mica]

isn't that just atlas abyss 1.1.7?
check the 1.1.8 patch notes

[timber notch]

Nah I had it with only client/host mods playing with a completely unmodded friend

[formal basin]

what if it's atlas abyss actually let me update it on my pack

[small glacier]

Looks similar to Huntdown https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Nozz/Lethal_Missions/

[lament mica]

i mean for the code shared

[small glacier]

One of the missions is to kill an enemy

[formal basin]

don't have that one

[deft cape]

oh wait true...

[dark brook]

HMMMMM

[small glacier]

Ah gotcha, nevermind

[dark brook]

but this one doesn't spawn anything

[dark brook]

can you share your list again?

[formal basin]

this

[timber notch]

I’d share my list in text but that was over a month ago

So images it is

[dark brook]

oh ok so same pack

[formal basin]

yea it doesn't happen on mod manager pack

it actually might be masked bugging out on Atlas

[timber notch]

It might have something to do with making an enemy spawn where it isn’t supposed to

[formal basin]

cause that's where i test

[timber notch]

Wait no because the dog

[dark brook]

nah it's not atlas exclusive

[timber notch]

Y’all had the dog outside

[dark brook]

and I had masked stuck on vent

[formal basin]

ill try with atlas 1.1.8 still

[timber notch]

Is it possible it’s just a base game issue?

[dark brook]

I don't think so

[formal basin]

no one reported it then

[small glacier]

I don't get this error when I play

[deft cape]

oh wait that'd make sense since on the mod manager you're on the latest version

[deft cape]

on 1.1.8?

[small glacier]

Lemme check

[deft cape]

ah fuck

[dark brook]

but there were reports of people playing even without custom moons and their libs

like uhhhh

I can't for the life of me remember the name

[formal basin]

there's also a pathfinding issue in the game

[small glacier]

1.1.6 actually

[dark brook]

the one with the flickering lights

[formal basin]

with brackens centipedes and spore lizards

[dark brook]

had the masked with the mask on

and stuck

[small glacier]

I'm more far behind than his modpack 'cause I'm using https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Easyidle123/Easyidles_Quality_Moons/

[timber notch]

Ye it’s why PathfindingAIFix is needed

[formal basin]

yep

[timber notch]

Although it doesn’t impact Masked or Dogs

[formal basin]

trying atlas 1.1.8

[small glacier]

^ Same

[dark brook]

@small glacier can you try this one also? Had the masked bug but no custom moons

[small glacier]

Sure thing! One sec

[timber notch]

I’d try it but I’m off my PC for the night

I should really take my meds lol it’s late

[small glacier]

They made masked spawn outside with AC? Or does it happen on the inside as well?

[dark brook]

I think it was vanilla rend

with spawns on

[timber notch]

iirc they had it inside on the sewer interior

I feel like someone did

[small glacier]

Gotcha, alrighty

[timber notch]

idk it’s late

[formal basin]

abyss 1.1.8 its working

[remote iris]

i think blade got it on etern aswell

[dark brook]

I did

[dark brook]

I think the code has vanilla spawns turned off also so

yyeah

[deft cape]

i wonder if it's other moon mods with the same issue then

[formal basin]

the outside spawn might cause that?

[remote iris]

were the most active rn

[dark brook]

what about the vanilla rend incident

[timber notch]

And dogs

[deft cape]

fire community here

[remote iris]

STAY ACTIVE IT WORKS AS ADVERSTISEMENT

[timber notch]

[deft cape]

i wonder if starlancer ai fix fixes that then

[timber notch]

Yeah I was about to say

[deft cape]

ok im gonna download starlancer ai fix

[dark brook]

it's funny cause I run it and I got the

[deft cape]

and use the older abyss version

[dark brook]

funny

[timber notch]

It honestly might be a base game issue that’s just not encountered under normal circumstances

[dark brook]

dumb masked

[small glacier]

StarlancerAI fix is one of my favorite mods with AC

I love coilheads outside on Asteroid13

[formal basin]

it adds more pathfinding?

[dark brook]

There is a vanilla issue like that BUT

[deft cape]

yeah maybe a combination of mods is just somehow able to trigger it, but it's sadly still speculation at this point

[dark brook]

When it happened to me the masked had cosmetics

[remote iris]

I DO THE SAME

[deft cape]

@timber notch how long did it take for you to figure out the issue for huntdown anyways 👀

[dark brook]

But that was long before mirage

And before ac even

[small glacier]

As far as I know it uses vanilla pathfinding but just makes the InsideEnemies able to use the Outside AI instead of all trying to walk beside the ship

[remote iris]

WERE ALMOST NEAR 6000 MESSAGES

[timber notch]

Uhh iirc it was fixed like super quick by the dev

[formal basin]

yeah and dogs despawned when i reentered the moon and its no lag

[deft cape]

oh nah i mean for you to figure out what the bug was

since you discovered it

[dark brook]

Ok so that was atlas

Good one issue solved

Now to track down the mimicking bug

[deft cape]

i thought the mimicking bug had to do with those spawns

[dark brook]

weellllll

we have a vanilla pack

[deft cape]

oh

[dark brook]

yk the uhh

[deft cape]

like just qol client sided mods?

[dark brook]

flickering one didn't have any moons

from like couple hours ago

[timber notch]

Under 12 hours

[deft cape]

oh that

[timber notch]

Ohhh

[dark brook]

no moons and no moon libs. I asked @small glacier to run it

the masked with the mask and no ai spawned there

[small glacier]

I'm still waiting for Masked to break so I can say 1.1.8 Atlas Abyss doesn't fix it ._.

[deft cape]

are we talking about @solemn ridge's profile here

[dark brook]

yes

[timber notch]

It was pretty clear bc the dog mission spawned it in, and it kept showing up every interior afterwards

[dark brook]

I think atlas is related to a different issue entirely

[timber notch]

And we eventually realized it didn’t interact with us after we survived it charging us

[dark brook]

The lag with despawn problems one

[deft cape]

ah not as ambiguous as this issue we're having rn

[dark brook]

Vent masked spawns are still on the table

[timber notch]

Unfortunately not

[deft cape]

didn't someone mention vent masked spawns is vanilla

[dark brook]

Oh btw about the not despawning bodies/enemies

I know of another mod that had this issue

[timber notch]

It might not be a bad idea to shoot a message to the huntdown dev tbh

[deft cape]

once we've got more of an idea of what the issue is i might yeah

[dark brook]

I'm like positive it is, but it still is pretty weird to me considering all the other circumstances of it happening

like it sometimes having a suit and acting differently for host/client

[deft cape]

https://github.com/qwbarch/lc-mirage/issues/32#issuecomment-1947938898

[timber notch]

Oh the joys of modding an early access game

[dark brook]

and me not encountering it for like a really long time and then 3 in a row with mirage

[deft cape]

nvm the vent is probably an issue with mirage

[deft cape]

yeah honestly it probably is mirage cuz

[trim anchor]

felt this 😔

[deft cape]

there's enough ppl having the issue

[remote iris]

i play with ac and it works fine

i even edit the spawns

in ac

[dark brook]

ac def not the issue

[timber notch]

It might be mirage causing the issue to trigger rather than the issue itself

[dark brook]

bruh he had to ruin that perfectly good report with that

[deft cape]

oh yeah ignore the part about AC

[dark brook]

mask removal mod

[deft cape]

it's just that the vents issue is still on the table

[dark brook]

@upbeat compass hi can I ask you to share your sorting script thingy you showcased to us yesterday 👉👈

[timber notch]

Wait a second is your name a freaking Metal Gear Rising reference

[dark brook]

perhaps

[upbeat compass]

its cooked

def count_mods(filename):
    mod_counts = {}
    with open('input.txt', 'r') as file:
        for line in file:
            mod_name = line.strip().split('-')[1]
            if mod_name in mod_counts:
                mod_counts[mod_name] += 1
            else:
                mod_counts[mod_name] = 1
    ##with open('input2.txt', 'r') as file:
    ##    for line in file:
    ##        mod_name = line.strip().split(' ')[0]
    #        if mod_name in mod_counts:
    #            mod_counts[mod_name] += 1
    #        else:
    #            mod_counts[mod_name] = 1
    return mod_counts

def main():
    filename = 'input.txt'
    mod_counts = count_mods(filename)
    sorted_mods = sorted(mod_counts.items(), key=lambda x: x[1], reverse=True)
    for mod_name, count in sorted_mods:
        print(f"{mod_name}: {count}")

if __name__ == "__main__":
    main()

example input.txt

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
Ozone-Runtime_Netcode_Patcher-0.2.5
Bobbie-UniTask-2.5.0
Bobbie-NAudio-2.2.2
qwbarch-BarchLib-1.0.0
qwbarch-Mirage-1.0.11
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.6.3
AllToasters-SpectateEnemies-2.3.1
Pooble-LCBetterSaves-1.7.3
Drakorle-MoreItems-1.0.2
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.14.2
IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader-1.1.4

[timber notch]

hahsbdjesbsjdbejb

[trim anchor]

wait is this not a built in thing for r2

[timber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/bladewolf-gif-25288686

[fading sapphire]

Yeah I can definitely confirm that, when I first saw the mod I thought it was just about player deaths becoming masked

[dark brook]

how do I cook as a person with 0 coding knowledge

[upbeat compass]

its for combining multiple mod lists together to see the mods used by everybody (helps with tracking down incompatibilites)

[upbeat compass]

do you have python installed

[dark brook]

no..

[deft cape]

i think i also didn't initially put enough emphasis on the synced voices part

[upbeat compass]

well then this is just a funky looking text file to your computre

[deft cape]

so makes sense

[dark brook]

damn

[deft cape]

thx for the script bongo

[upbeat compass]

[dark brook]

uhhh ughhhhh we now have to find the modlists ye?

[timber notch]

can y’all fix my back pain while you’re fixing the bug

[dark brook]

I mean if you consent to removing it entirely

sure

[timber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/woo-yea-baby-woo-moist-critikal-lets-go-happy-gif-20217166

I can live without the muscles that go from your side up your back

[deft cape]

does r2 let you grab an entire mod list as text

[dark brook]

there's a mod that grabs it but uhh

I can't find it...

someone shared it the other day here

[small glacier]

Still haven't gotten the error to show up after updating to 1.1.8

[deft cape]

im gonna run bongo's script after i get the name of the mods

[dark brook]

I can get you three rn I think

[deft cape]

so that at least is confirmed an atlas bug in 1.1.7

now for the vents

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[upbeat compass]

yeah its called get dependency strings or something