Mirage

[lunar quest]

takethatmaskoff works for me with mirage and MEO fork

[atomic seal]

It means everything is OK

How does it work?

What if a mask passes next to a player's corpse?

Or the mask is looking for a corpse

[timber notch]

Those should all work fine with Mirage

[atomic seal]

And stop

that's not it

masks just fall off the possessed

Great then

I'm just happy

[timber notch]

If you haven't had any problems with them before, Mirage shouldn't give you any problems.

[atomic seal]

So far there are no problems, in the assembly of 140 mods xd

Recently, each mod was separately checked for compatibility between all

Everything works stably

Wrote problem reports - received corrections

I'm happy

[timber notch]

I decided to use a translator to make sure my messages weren't being translated incorrectly.

[willow lily]

Does this fully replace Skinwalkers?

[atomic seal]

Yes

He is the future

[willow lily]

Alright sick

[atomic seal]

Does this even work?

I have never seen bugs use anything in the entire game

They usually take things and immediately throw them away

That's it, I figured it out

I'm sorry

[timber notch]

Does Mirage have DissonanceLagFix built in like Skinwalkers does? I assume not, but someone I was talking to heard otherwise so I want to double check that I’m not spreading false info lol

[lofty sorrel]

It does, it's just that most usable items are equipment, which doesn't spawn naturally

[lofty sorrel]

It doesn't, though the dev does recommend installing it

[timber notch]

Okay that’s what I thought!

[atomic seal]

So I'll install it too!

[soft hollow]

TME works with NORMAL masked enemies

I think*

Yea

It doesnt need MEO

It works by itself

[timber notch]

Yeah I corrected myself later

[soft hollow]

mb i got lazy when reading

👍🏿

[timber notch]

I use MoreEmotes so I didn’t know lol

[timber notch]

it’s all good dw

[soft hollow]

but finally Mirage should have no issues anymore

[timber notch]

Gonna try out BetterEmotes though, since apparently it works better with AdvancedCompany

[soft hollow]

Cosmetics, voice, are all watching

[lofty sorrel]

I just want the sign. Every other emote can die

[dark talon]

still breaks without compatibility mode from my experience unfortunately

[timber notch]

Oh, really? I wonder why Potatoe changed compatability for it and not MoreEmotes

[dark talon]

because better emotes did a patch that was aimed at fixing compatibility

[timber notch]

Ahhh

And it just didn’t work?

[dark talon]

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues/102

Seems like it didn't. As soon as I have it installed without compatibility mode in AC the portable terminal breaks. but we're going offtopic here

[dawn cloud]

had a funny interaction where I asked where did he go, mimic replied that he kept going that way, as we were bothing facing towards a door. I went up to him, and said you want to come with me, just saw ghost girl, and he just killed me then

[timber notch]

See real fun begins when you and your friends keep saying “I am not a Skinwalker.” repeatedly to try and get them to say it

[deft cape]

for my friend and i, we just keep asking "are you real?" and "yes i am".

we're so used to hearing this phrase that just saying that can get someone to think we're a masked enemy when we're real

[atomic seal]

which config is better to set that the voice synchronization was random and delayed? it's just that the pepeers monsters are very imaginative, you attach them to yourself and you hear everyone hd

[shrewd mirage]

Remove the mimic voices for monsters from the mods 🙂

[deft cape]

are you asking about changing the delay between each voice mimic attempt?

if you are, you can change the delay for non-masked enemies through this:

[rain mountain]

never experienced this, just curious, is the delay set to start after the clip ends, so that there's no possibility for overlap?

[deft cape]

so right now the delay starts right as soon as the previous delay ends, if audio does overlap (it tries to play audio before the previous finishes), then the previous one will be cancelled

i plan on changing that to something more like what you mentioned in the future

just never bothered with it since in practice it's not really an issue (yet)

[atomic seal]

is the voice of the host and the players out of sync, as if talking in a cave, a common problem?

[deft cape]

hosts play it slightly earlier than clients right now. is it that noticable?

it's something i'll fix later on

[deft cape]

https://github.com/qwbarch/lc-mirage/issues/30

is anyone else having this issue?

i've personally never had any lag from naturally spawned masked enemies so i'm not sure what the issue might be

[solemn ridge]

Any chance for an update soon that merges in DissonanceLagFix like Skinwalkers does?

[deft cape]

i don't really plan on adding it to mirage tbh

well maybe if enough ppl want it i guess i'll just do it anyways

[solemn ridge]

Yeah I was gonna say I don't really see a reason not to merge it in, keeps 1 less mod in the list XD

[deft cape]

i get that, but there's also not much of a point for me to add it to mirage since dissonancelagfix is good in general, not just for mirage

since as long as you use voice chat in the game, dissonance lag fix helps with that

so it doesn't make too much sense for me to add it for mirage imo at least

[remote iris]

Nope never crashed and my fps stays the same

[deft cape]

yeah doesn't happen to me either

now i just wonder which mod is causing the conflict

[dreamy arrow]

is it intended that they only use 2 voice lines?

[dark brook]

if you said two voice lines in a match they will use them

there's a setting to keep voice lines between matches

[dreamy arrow]

oh wait ur right, we exited to menu to fix bug

[deft cape]

if you want even more control and manually delete the clips as well, there's a setting for that as well

[dreamy arrow]

only I (host) would need to do it manually to keep it synced as long as everyone rejoins yea?

[deft cape]

you mean the config? all settings except for IgnoreRecordingsDeletion is synced for all clients yeah

that specific setting is the only one that doesn't sync because it makes more sense for each client to decide what they want to do with the recordings

seems like there's an compatibility issue with mirage + atlas abyss at the current moment, thanks to LukeAChilds for the detailed report:
https://github.com/qwbarch/lc-mirage/issues/28#issuecomment-1945374002

[upbeat compass]

meltdown shouldn't have cause any issues here, i spawn it in basically the same way as the vanilla game would spawn them (i was using the base game functions but wanted to add a disallowed system) - also i dont spawn specificly masked enemies

[deft cape]

if i remember right, i think slendykins said it's not an issue anymore so

@fading sapphire pinging so you could confirm

but yeah it's not related to meltdown

most likely was my own logic

[upbeat compass]

👍

[dark brook]

Looks the same as the one I had save for the fact that I wasn't on atlas

But I have atlas in my modpack, doubt that would affect the whole thing tho?

[fading sapphire]

Yeah I tried out a few spawning methods via spawnondeath, meltdown and convertion and all worked fine using Mirage and MaskedAiRework. I can't comment on the mods I don't use though like takeoffthatmask, more emotes or any cosmetic mods

As for Atlas Abyss I sorta nuked outside masked spawns, a 1:1 ratio of dogs and masked is quite ridiculous

[soft hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/959271895004487750/987500260685381702/caption_Original.gif

[dark brook]

I can get my modlist when I get back, might help with narrowing down the incompatibility

[soft hollow]

There's an incompatibility?

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-meme-surprise-shock-gif-21311476

Where?

[dark brook]

yeah that's the main question

[soft hollow]

Well whats the issue you're facing

[fading sapphire]

I just sorta woke up, what issue were you facing? I just read meltdown and the pinged reply 😂

[dark brook]

#1200695291972685926 message

[soft hollow]

oh shit I had that issue today

[dark brook]

and it kinda looks similar to the issue posted above on github

oh nice we can compare modlists also

[soft hollow]

Those masked have NO AI

[fading sapphire]

Oh yeah that's really weird, I've never seen just a regular masked spawn with these mods

Once I finish work I can do a comparison, dm me your pack code or pack file

[soft hollow]

k

Here's my clip relating to this same issue

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1VlgbBPz0cRy2c/d1337EScq3rK?invite=cr-MSxuRWosMTQ3NDQxNTIs

Im assuming

Masked "spawned" from a vent but had no brains or life whatsoever

[dark brook]

yeyeye mine also had my suit

and also with mask on

[soft hollow]

Also it had the Mask on which in my config I have disabled

[dark brook]

did it wear the host's outfit?

[soft hollow]

No

Im the host

[fading sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/035-gif-20429600

[dark brook]

Oh ok

and did you have natural spawns off?

I mean

yeah

[soft hollow]

I have natural spawns on

[dark brook]

hmmm

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-cells-unlock-your-brain-gif-14425366

[dark brook]

I had it off, the masked masked spawned with the mask from a vent

[soft hollow]

Hold on

Im cooking

[dark brook]

but the best part

is that host couldn't spectate the masked and clients could

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-anime-jojos-bizarre-adventure-kars-universe-gif-16862992

Do you have Huntdown

[dark brook]

and spectate enemies has its own funny thing in that it names the masked

[dark brook]

no

[soft hollow]

shit

Do you have any mod that spawns in enemies irregularly compared to normal spawns

[dark brook]

well I guess yeah, stuff like meltdown

but I haven't touched anything spawn config wise and I don't think anything else in my pack can spawn masked

[dark brook]

and this fella (sorry for the screenshot) is named just Masked

[soft hollow]

weird

did that masked spawn from a meltdown

[dark brook]

nope

[soft hollow]

do you remember what moon that was

[dark brook]

it was on at least two different library using moons

I think aquatis and uhh

Jesus what was it

Something from Wesley's

nvm those two both use LECore

[fading sapphire]

Hmm I can't say I've had any issues on Kast lately with masked and that's an LEcore mod

[dark brook]

#1200695291972685926 message

but here's me testifying that it happened on a LLL moon I just have to remember which one

[remote iris]

Infernid etern polarus?

[dark brook]

atlas is an LLL moon and it happens there

[dark brook]

I think both polarus and etern

[remote iris]

Atlantica?

[dark brook]

Maybe has to do with maps that have natural masked spawns?

I'm gonna ask Wesley

[deft cape]

hmmm natural spawns shouldn't bug out though

seems like modded maps will spawn masked enemies even if it's disabled in the mirage config, but it shouldn't conflict either way

[deft cape]

wasn't the latest version of mirage working before? is it because of adding another mod? just wanna make sure it's not on my end

[soft hollow]

I mean this doesnt happen for EVERY masked

Most masked were working fine for me, only that one in the clip bugged for me

[dark brook]

I only started using mirage the other day and immediately had this happen to me, although masked stuck in vents is I think a vanilla issue. Not saying that's your mod's problem though

[fading sapphire]

Anyone seen a masked spawn from a vent? They have a funny animation

[deft cape]

yeah just wanna isolate anything that might actually be my mod so i can fix those specific parts

[deft cape]

do you happen to have any logs for that

[dark brook]

got a response from Wesley

Uh
Etern for sure, Acidir, asteroid-13 (for now)
Yeah I think that's it

[deft cape]

guessing not though if it happened awhile ago

[deft cape]

what's the context for this? 👀

[dark brook]

I asked him for a list of maps that spawn masked

[remote iris]

@deft cape i think this

maybe idk

i didn't read that long up

[dark brook]

Etern was one of the maps that I encountered that issue on, also the map that started spawning masked of my alive crewmates

Despite vanilla spawns being turned off

[deft cape]

oh for that, modded maps still have its regular spawns

[deft cape]

the issue for this specifically is that i'm removing them spawns before modded maps load theirs

so i just need to figure out how to just make mine run after everything else, should be a pretty simple fix

[dark brook]

hmmm

what about the unnamed unassigned masked? does that tell anything to you? (referring to spectate enemies spectate naming system)

[soft hollow]

that shit long gone :(

[fading sapphire]

That will deviate from my setting, I use vanilla spawns with an added global spawn weight of 10. If spawns are turned off does Mirage still check for natural spawns to apply stuff?

[soft hollow]

WAIT

The person I played with their log could still have it

[deft cape]

LOL all good

[soft hollow]

Except they are sleeping

[deft cape]

i doubt it tbh

[dark brook]

sadge

[remote iris]

is it rare or common

[deft cape]

just wanna make sure the issue doesn't come from a lag fix that i did

[dark brook]

can't tell

happened like 3 times for ehhh

[remote iris]

because if its common its prob mod conflict

[dark brook]

3 quotas

[remote iris]

ig thats not too bad

[deft cape]

man it's kinda concerning

considering this many people are having issues again

just when i thought mirage was relatively stable

[remote iris]

ive never had any for some reason

[soft hollow]

Same dawg :(

[deft cape]

so it's possible it's a conflict with one of the popular mods maybe?

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-shower-guy-crying-in-shower-guts-theme-sadness-gif-22111507

cant have SHIT

[dark brook]

I'm pretty sure it is a conflict

[deft cape]

do you guys have scoopy's?

[remote iris]

can u send ur modlist ig

[soft hollow]

Yea

[dark brook]

yup

[remote iris]

yes

[dark brook]

018da77f-8a82-e988-63a1-821bdce99d7b

[deft cape]

LukeAsArts has been debugging issues and says that it seems like mirage and scoopy's conflicts

[dark brook]

we got at least 3 people with this issue so least we can do is narrow it down to the same mods

[soft hollow]

My Modlist: 018dabf9-b39b-2ace-adf0-97b72453b9a5

[waxen basin]

Scoopy? is that the one with more interiors?

[deft cape]

if scoopy's is confirmed a conflict then i'll try and look into what's conflicting

[timber notch]

why would there be a conflict tho, they shouldn’t be modifying the same things

[deft cape]

i'm assuming so, but i think LukeAsArts said it allows enemies to enter/exit the facility

[timber notch]

gotta love development

[deft cape]

which seems to be the issue

not confirmed though FYI

[timber notch]

Dungeon/Sewer

[deft cape]

just speculation from his earlier tests

[dark brook]

I had unnamed masked spawning on vanilla interiors tho

hmm

[remote iris]

failed to download

[waxen basin]

ah so yes

[remote iris]

for some reason

[dark brook]

weird

[deft cape]

wait actually what's the name of them usually? the player itself?

maybe you're right that it could help debug it

[dark brook]

yes

[soft hollow]

man wtf

[dark brook]

If it's working as it should it uses the name, else it's Masked

[dark brook]

bruh

[remote iris]

maybe thunderstore is down or something

ive heard ppl say that

[deft cape]

im gonna double check my code rq just to see if i find any clues

[dark brook]

018da8cb-b036-efd7-4c67-76eba3909598

try this one maybe

it has natural spawns turned on tho and I removed lethalpresents and lethalescape... but I think those two aren't the issue regardless

[remote iris]

it works

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/rengoku-stare-gif-25157393

[remote iris]

im importing

[soft hollow]

its not working for me

[deft cape]

the spectate mod is SpectateEnemies right

just wanna make sure i'm looking at the right code

[dark brook]

#1176357567824396388

[deft cape]

gotcha

wait you said the masked enemies don't have suits on right

they're all orange?

[dark brook]

uhhhhh, two were orange, one had mine on

[deft cape]

the one with yours on showed your name right

[dark brook]

the one with mine was unspectatable for me (as host)

[deft cape]

well one thing's for sure

the masked enemy's mimickingPlayer isn't set for whatever reason

idk if another mod is removing the previously set mimicking player

try and see if you have any mods that can modify the mimicking player (and no it's definitely not an issue from MEO if anyone is wondering, since MEO doesn't remove the mimicking player)

if there's no mods that can remove the mimicking player then perhaps something is making my stuff error

which makes it not able to set the mimicking player

[dark brook]

not running meo, will only be home in an hour sadly

but I don't think I have any

[deft cape]

also when you have logs, try to ctrl + f for Mimicking player #, if this doesn't show up at all then something is probably disabling my patch

[dark brook]

I think the other people are also checking modpack related stuff so maybe they could tell

[deft cape]

all good

[dark brook]

yeyeye I have a 24mb log

the one from yesterday

[deft cape]

ah right fuck i forgot lemme take al ook

[dark brook]

#1200695291972685926 message

I played a couple more hours and the log was bloated to discord crashing size

[deft cape]

every instance where the masked enemy is created

it has this error

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MaskedPlayerEnemy.LookAtFocusedPosition () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0185)
MaskedPlayerEnemy.LateUpdate () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0017)

i need to see what mods might run this

or modifies something there

this is likely from something that modifies the masked enemy's AI though i'm guessing

whether it's MaskedAIRevamp or not, i have no clue

[dark brook]

this is weird to me cause I also don't run that one...

the only two I can guess might be uhh

#1206494982521753620

#1175921476134785125

018da8cb-b036-efd7-4c67-76eba3909598

or the whole pack (but its supposed to also have lethalpresents and lethalescape in it but I removed them yesterday)

@soft hollow do you run any of those?

[deft cape]

ngl don't really have the time to open up a profile code to test, but these mods could be related to the issue.
when i was talking to LukeAsArts, he mentioned scoopys conflicts with mirage, and it's likely from its feature of allowing monsters to enter/escape the facility (so basically lethal escape)

and starlancer ai seems like it does it too

[remote iris]

i would suggest removing lc_Symphony skipping the start results in LLL glitching

[dark brook]

that was patched I think

[remote iris]

im not too sure

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-rick-dalton-point-finger-pointing-hand-right-there-gif-20349799

that one

Yes

[remote iris]

I play with starlanceraifix and dont notice anything

[deft cape]

ughh it bothers me so much that this issue even exists rn lmao

[dark brook]

I can give you a list of mods that I run compared to the github ticket

[atomic seal]

I love mirage

I also like the echo mode in the cave, when everything on the ship is so funny talk:3

[remote iris]

same

[dark brook]

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
Ozone-Runtime_Netcode_Patcher-0.2.5
Bobbie-UniTask-2.5.0
Bobbie-NAudio-2.2.2
qwbarch-BarchLib-1.0.0
qwbarch-Mirage-1.0.11
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.6.3
AllToasters-SpectateEnemies-2.3.1
Pooble-LCBetterSaves-1.7.3
Drakorle-MoreItems-1.0.2
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.14.2
IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader-1.1.4
scoopy-Scoopys_Variety_Mod-1.2.0
TheFluff-FairAI-1.3.2
kuba6000-LC_Masked_Fix-0.0.2
Owen3H-CSync-1.0.8
NotAtomicBomb-TerminalApi-1.5.1
loaforc-FacilityMeltdown-2.3.0
Hardy-LCMaxSoundsFix-1.0.0
linkoid-DissonanceLagFix-1.0.0
Zingar-Atlas_Abyss-1.1.6
tinyhoot-ShipLoot-1.0.0
x753-More_Suits-1.4.1

so

I see fair ai

[atomic seal]

wow so many mods...

[dark brook]

but that one is supposed to modify turrets and mines?

[remote iris]

i have like 150 in mine

[atomic seal]

Yes

[remote iris]

the LLL is older

u said u have the problem

[atomic seal]

But for me this mod is casual and breaks the mechanics of the vanilla game

[remote iris]

on LLL moons

idk

[atomic seal]

all monsters will die

[dark brook]

both lll and lecore

[atomic seal]

and what are they afraid of?

complete absurdity

[dark brook]

well so far everyone has had scoopys installed

when encountering this

[atomic seal]

with an echo?

[dark brook]

?

[atomic seal]

that is, even if the generation is not scoopys

Maybe there's a bug with the echo?

[dark brook]

what echo

[atomic seal]

Forget what I said

[upbeat compass]

if you guys could just copy stuff like this i can run it through a quick python script to tally up every mod installed by everyone

[atomic seal]

profile code

but it takes so long to install everything

[upbeat compass]

yeah its just easier for people to do that than me download it and navigate through r2 with how laggy it is rn

[remote iris]

the thunderstore thing on overwolf runs 2x better for me

u should try

[upbeat compass]

yeah i fucking hate overwolf

[remote iris]

same

[upbeat compass]

i will deal with the lag if i dont have to download overwolf

[remote iris]

oh lol

[dark brook]

r2modman dev said that he's gonna address the performance issues like

some day

[upbeat compass]

so glad curseforge finally released a standalone version

[upbeat compass]

yeah its being worked on

[dark brook]

but uh hhhgh we are getting the thingy this weekend also

[upbeat compass]

sometime this weekend i think a big performance thing hits

[dark brook]

wrong

[upbeat compass]

how tf do i not have access

oh

[dark brook]

that was

lethal dating sim

[remote iris]

nah what lol

[dark brook]

I misclicked

[upbeat compass]

huh???

[dark brook]

#1186595897052774472

[dark brook]

you need a role for that

[atomic seal]

I'm really looking forward to the update

And the convenience of copying the assembly code, as in the overwolf version

Why do I have to go to settings every time to copy the code? this is damn inconvenient

[atomic seal]

And in general, when the profile is filled with 60+ mods, the program simply does not work to disable each mod

It's so busy it's just scary.

[atomic seal]

What? :0

Usefulness rating?

[upbeat compass]

lol someone didn't provide a full modlist mirage is on 3/4 of these modlists

[dark brook]

lmao

[small glacier]

I moved to r2modman because of the lag on Thunderstore—I had assumed it slightly improved due to lack of ads but it seems to be about the same honestly. I don't mind the move though, I still prefer r2modman for other reasons now

[upbeat compass]

ah well can infer that is on everybodys list

[atomic seal]

My build definitely has this.

[dark brook]

watch it be not a mirage issue

[deft cape]

ur the goat thx bongo

btw gonna read up on what everyone is saying on what the issue is in like 12 hours

[upbeat compass]

lol definetly a patching issue considering that IL_0185 is just the value 22

has somebody tested to make sure that it isn't lcmaskedfix?

[dark brook]

nope, not yet at least

[upbeat compass]

i dont have the setup to test this atm so if someone could test that

[dark brook]

and I think everyone affected are offline

[upbeat compass]

oh great

[dark brook]

yeah I also don't

@soft hollow wake up

[atomic seal]

When V50 comes out, will we all suffer due to mod updates?

[upbeat compass]

yes easily

v47 was annoying and v50 will definetly be annoyinger

[atomic seal]

I don't want this day...

All popular mods combined

This is already V50

[small glacier]

v49 will become Lethal's Minecraft 1.7.10

[upbeat compass]

nah it will just take lethallib to update and we'll be mostly fine (as long as zeekers doesn't rename too much stuff)

[timber notch]

LCUltrawide shouldn’t be impacted so I’m set

[upbeat compass]

i also dont think this will be true considering youd want to be on the latest version because the stuff zeekers cooks is crazy

[small glacier]

- Fixed most weird internal names like Spring and RedLocustBees to become Coilhead and CircuitBees
- Removed Herobrine

[dark brook]

I'll ask zeekeers to impact this specifically

we will all suffer on that day

[timber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[small glacier]

This is true :3

[timber notch]

I mean hey if he adds ultrawide support that’d be the best option lol

[upbeat compass]

well the apparatus is named fucking lungprop

the zap gun is named fucking patchertool

like its cooked

[small glacier]

I didn't know the Zap Gun one 0.0

That makes 0 sense

[upbeat compass]

yeah i was going through and was wondering wtf patcher tool was, i thought it was some debug item (there are a lot of those in the codebase) but no it was the zap gun

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-coffin-just-woke-up-wwe-gif-5289384

its 5am, im holding on by a thread

whats up

[dark brook]

it might be masked fix

[soft hollow]

wh at

this?

[atomic seal]

FIx masks

I was told that he is stable

or are there problems? IF SO, I WILL REMOVE IT!

[soft hollow]

we cant remove this mod, it is literally a needed mod when playing with masks

[upbeat compass]

just try without it, it could be messing with stuff

[small glacier]

What is the glitch you are troubleshooting? I play with LC_Masked_Fix and Mirage

[upbeat compass]

lc masked fix could be messing with stuff

[soft hollow]

@dark brook I need more info

[small glacier]

How so? I've died to Masked multiple times on Atlas Abyss and have no issues so far

*Have discovered no bugs so far, I definitely have issues with how often I die to Masked :3

[small glacier]

Truuuue, I was just doing this on loop after I added SpaceSunShine—it takes forever with this mod manager D:

[remote iris]

i can test rn but i aint affected

ill test on ur profile

i have it

(do i test lcmaskedfix???)

[dark brook]

Bongo said that it has a line that just says 22

That's evidence enough for me

[dark brook]

Perhaps

[dark brook]

#1200695291972685926 message

[remote iris]

so how do i do this

[dark brook]

try running let's say atlas

and checking what will spawn from both player deaths and natural masked spawns

preferably from client with spectate enemies

[remote iris]

i dont have no one on rn

[dark brook]

wh n did that happen

[remote iris]

lemme see

[remote iris]

2 hours ago

[dark brook]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-emoji-smiley-thinking-scratching-head-gif-17835192

then try etern

[dark brook]

Oh I thought you did

Well sadge then

[remote iris]

lemme recheck

[remote iris]

i dont rip

[small glacier]

Thanks :D

[errant cypress]

Anyone tested it with MaskedAIRevamp today/yesterday?

[remote iris]

Ye it worked fine

[errant cypress]

Good to know, thanks ^^

[fading sapphire]

@errant cypress see here down, done plenty of tests yesterday and found zero incompatibility

[abstract valve]

#1190848624402386985 message

[fading sapphire]

Poor Piggy, I'm sure the office issues are becoming a headache

[ember stump]

is this mod meant to be used with skinwalkers or is it a standalone mod

i assume standalone

[remote iris]

standalone

[ember stump]

okay thankkkss

[lethal vault]

are there any conflicts between this mod and masked enemy rework?

[lofty sorrel]

As long as you use the MaskedEnemyReworkFork instead of the main MaskedEnemyRework and tick the compatibility setting in the config, there shouldn't be any issues

[lethal vault]

oh ok, thanks

[lilac saffron]

mute local player is disabled, and when i was alive i could hear myself but when i died i couldnt hear myself?

interior was lc office if it matters and ill test some more to see if i can replicate it

[errant cypress]

Version 1.0.13 or less?

[eternal bridge]

ok, so... spawn on player death is set to 87

also why is it saying plugin is disabled? it's enabled

[fading sapphire]

Do you have a space in the value box?

[eternal bridge]

yep, spawnonplayerdeath it set to 87

[lilac saffron]

yes 1.0.13

i just tested on vow and it was working

maybe its a lc office problem? i removed that mod to be sure

also side note, is it just me or the mimicked voices sound a bit quiet?

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-enter-sandman-the-masked-lethal-company-the-masked-lethal-company-masks-gif-13175466374478856285

[pearl vector]

Does rhis mod have any known compatability issues?

[eternal bridge]

skinwalkers i think messes with it a bit, but other than that i don't think it does

also this mod is just skinwalkers but better

[dawn cloud]

at this point I dont even care for v50, I already have so much with mods

[pearl vector]

Ok so someth like maskedenemyoverhaul shouldn’t be an issue?

This really does just seem like skinwalkers+

[acoustic fox]

Most likely lmao

[lilac saffron]

nah fr doe

[eternal bridge]

yes, maskedenemyoverhaul works in perfect harmony with this mod

[lilac saffron]

dont ignore me >:(

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-mask-masked-dancing-walking-gif-3265027873744233112

[lilac saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-lethal-lethal-company-company-gif-6881484011374718059

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-twerk-mask-scary-funny-gif-4181099319128323906

[lilac saffron]

when more emotes support masked enemy

imagine a mimic twerking lmao

[eternal bridge]

the funniest part of that is that the guy is currently being possesed

[eternal bridge]

but yeah that would be cool if they could write signs and flip you off

[errant cypress]

Amazing, thanks!

[fading sapphire]

@dark brook Your pack gives me a headache, I tested a little on Etern but all the times I went there there was just a billion enemies from the beginning and logging seems to be disabled, also couldn't force the spawns from AC main menu configuration to be masked 🤷‍♂️ can only guess from what affects spawns in the pack

[inner idol]

Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Component.CompareTag (System.String tag) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001)
EnemyAI.EnableEnemyMesh (System.Boolean enable, System.Boolean overrideDoNotSet) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_000F)
StartOfRound.SetPlayerSafeInShip () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_006B)
AudioReverbTrigger.ChangeAudioReverbForPlayer (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB pScript) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0177)
AudioReverbTrigger.OnTriggerStay (UnityEngine.Collider other) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_018B)```

is that by any chance related to mirage? i've got tons of that error when i took off with masked enemies around

so in orbit my fps was extremely low while spamming these errors

[twilit monolith]

@deft cape I poked through here a little bit, is my AI fix conflicting with something in Mirage?

Or was it some other mod for masked AI that was causing the issue?

[deft cape]

not sure yet i'm going to investigate later when i get home

(and catch up on all the messages here)

[twilit monolith]

kk, just lemme know if there's anything I can do to help :)

[twilit monolith]

they write a sign saying
"helLo FelLoW emPLoyeE"

[eternal bridge]

that would be too obvious

[eternal bridge]

also what is your ai

[twilit monolith]

Would it tho? Players are weird 🤭

[eternal bridge]

yes it would be very oviousn

[twilit monolith]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1206494982521753620
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AudioKnight/StarlancerAIFix/

It tells the enemy what pathing and stuff to use depending on where it spawns

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/slungus-item-asylum-roblox-bunny-rabbit-gif-16001533015564169407

[twilit monolith]

I thought about implementing a checking system to see if the outside/inside status had changed, but ultimately I think that's beyond the scope of the mod and better left to the mods that actually let enemies go in and out of the facility to handle

[eternal bridge]

can you make a mod where masked are docile

just remove their attack code

(am stupd)

[twilit monolith]

Probably, I guess, but would there be a greater purpose? Or do you just want silly masked people to follow you around without attacking?

[eternal bridge]

yes i want the silly goofy guys to just be like followers

[twilit monolith]

lol an interesting idea, but for now I have other stuff on my plate

[eternal bridge]

s'all good

[formal basin]

after changing MOE to fork(while also touching the compatibility setting), installing Mirage and LC MaskedFix it seems like all masked lost their AI and console keeps spamming NullReferenceException
where did i go wrong?

[dark brook]

we're all damned

no one knows why this happens yet but you're like the 6th person

[lofty sorrel]

None of those mods touch AI though

Is it a custom moon issue?

[formal basin]

we were on March at first when i noticed the log spam
but i've only saw a Masked with missing AI(and a mask on it although they should be disabled by mirage) on Atlas Abyss

[dark brook]

yeah same as me

can you send your modlist?

[formal basin]

what's the best way to copy it?
i've manually installed it all

its a lot

[lofty sorrel]

The missing AI and Masked spawning with natural spawning off is a custom moon issue for sure, but I don't know about the log spam

[pulsar lotus]

there is a mod that can print your modlist

[lofty sorrel]

Could you send your log?

[formal basin]

oh right i've turned on natural spawning

[dark brook]

yeah doesnt really matter

happens either way

[dark brook]

^

[pulsar lotus]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Ccode_lang/ModLister/

[dark brook]

and try to get a log

[lofty sorrel]

I just want to know exactly what the error is

[formal basin]

the log is 81 MB

[dark brook]

well you can still throw it in, we pretty much already know what error to search for

[lofty sorrel]

At the very least just copypaste the error that's spamming

[dark brook]

its the same one as the last 5 cases

[lofty sorrel]

Can't upload files bigger than 25MB tho

[formal basin]

there it is

[lofty sorrel]

Oh what

[formal basin]

nitro

[dark brook]

this

#1200695291972685926 message

[lofty sorrel]

There are a lot of errors in this that are unrelated

[dark brook]

and the code its referncing

[formal basin]

here are the mods

[dark brook]

adding to this

[lofty sorrel]

There's this error but that's not the same?

@formal basin Which error spam is the one you're referencing, cause there's a lot of error spams

[formal basin]

oh right there was another spam from moreinteriors mod but thats unrelated to this issue

one sec

[lofty sorrel]

There's also this

[remote iris]

nah i play with ur mod and it works fine

[lofty sorrel]

Why is every error relating to this issue completely different lmao

[formal basin]

this one

[twilit monolith]

When I was testing my code for the aifix I ran into something similar, and I think it was because I had made some logic that relied on the NetworkObject of the enemy being referenced and it never was, so it just threw errors

I could be misremembering though, I've been staring at a lot of code recently 😓

[lofty sorrel]

I removed the RatAI error spam and the file is now 14MB lmao

[lofty sorrel]

I can't think of any reason Mirage would be relying on the NetworkObject in any way that would affect the AI

[formal basin]

lol
im not sure why its trying so hard to find the missing rat

[dark brook]

RatAI is from more interiors i reckon?

[formal basin]

yep

as soon as you leave the place it starts spamming

[dark brook]

mmmm well there was an update

[twilit monolith]

Perhaps this? Idk how Mirage's code is setup, but qwbarch can take a look later

[formal basin]

might help, didn't try yet

also i guess removing MEO would probably fix this issue

[dark brook]

nope

not related to meo

nor to its fork

[formal basin]

nope? brugh

[dark brook]

100%

[formal basin]

i've only kept it for toomanyemotes compatibility

[dark brook]

its already compatible out of the box

[formal basin]

it is? masked emote with mirage too?

[dark brook]

yup

its a toomanyemotes feature iirc

[formal basin]

nice
though if it doesn't fix the issue im at loss

[dark brook]

so far its been sorta narrowed down to something like this

give or take

[formal basin]

and i guess maskedfix doesn't change it too

[dark brook]

it is a masked fix error

the null exception

i think? well some of them were, at least mine

[formal basin]

are there any mods to debug it in game? wanna try to disable some mods next time i log on

and see if masked work

[dark brook]

@inner idol can you also share your modlist?

[lofty sorrel]

Here's where shit starts going south in Gorenebeda's log

[formal basin]

just as it gets spawned in probably

[lofty sorrel]

Do you know if there was a dog in your game?

[formal basin]

cant say for the game on March but there was a dog on Atlas

and it also got stuck somewhere

but not immediately

and the dog spawned later than masked for sure

[lilac saffron]

i just had a zombie do the arms animation while in the company

he was killed by company monster

[lofty sorrel]

As far as I can tell there was no error spam while you were on March

Only on Atlas

And it seems like the error only occurs when the Masked is spawned outside, and not when it is spawned from a vent

[formal basin]

that was in another game, I've restarted it
unfortunately no logs

[lofty sorrel]

Oh I see

[lofty sorrel]

If it helps, the only one of these that I don't have is Scoopys_Variety_Mod

And I've never seen this issue

[lilac saffron]

my friend that is

[dark brook]

oh taht helps

[lofty sorrel]

I'm gonna force some Masked to spawn in a test real quick rn just to double check

[formal basin]

i dont have variety mod either

[dark brook]

MMMMMMMM

we were thinking it was scoopy earlier yeah

well lets just see what qwbarch has to say after catching up on the convo

[lofty sorrel]

Tbf I'm not 100% sure the errors Gorenebeda are the same ones everyone else has been getting, could be a related issue but idk

Did this issue occur before the cosmetics fix for Mirage?

Just tested in my game on Rend Eclipsed, with Masked able to spawn outside, and no issues. Only thing I see is this

[Warning: Unity Log] HeadMaskTragedy is disabled! Netcode for GameObjects does not support spawning disabled NetworkBehaviours! The RandomPeriodicAudioPlayer component was skipped during spawn!

But I think I've always seen this and it's never caused problems

[formal basin]

didn't try mirage before, cant say

[lofty sorrel]

For clarity's sake, here's my mod list

[dark brook]

well i know that the issue doesnt happen like 100% of the time

[formal basin]

it happened just as I've updated the pack and added mirage with maskedfix

[dark brook]

cause i had rounds where nothing unusual happened

[dark brook]

yup same as me

but i had maskedfix for like

since it was released

[lofty sorrel]

Were they with Masked though?

[dark brook]

yup

[lofty sorrel]

Outside spawning Masked?

[dark brook]

both

on a LECore moon

[formal basin]

also yeah I've seen an outside spawned masked with mask on, the one that was unresponsive
though mirage should have disabled them(i turned MEO mask hide option off)

[dark brook]

yeah, i was also playing with natural spawns disabled and the masked started spawning when the masked with the mask appeared

[shrewd mirage]

I understand correctly that the MaskedEnemyOverhaul mod is not needed, not even the Fork version. I have some problem with mirage, mimics spawn outside, but their model is masked, and they stand "afk", and you can't kill them the same way. And even when you fly off the planet, arriving another day, they stand in the same place first round. Happens on both custom moons, like starlancer, and classic moons. My cfg is like this.

[dark brook]

@lofty sorrel if you're interested

[hollow coral]

Additionally, there are occasions when the arms seem to malfunction or refuse to function properly.

[formal basin]

yep the same as this
I've gotta try to spawn a masked inside and see if it works

[dark brook]

send your modlist

a lot of people are having the same issue

[pulsar lotus]

i don't use meo anymore but wasn't there one feature meo has but not mirage ?

[dark brook]

yeah zombie apocalypse mode

[pulsar lotus]

that's it ?

[dark brook]

mmm

[lofty sorrel]

There's also name tags and spawn control

[dark brook]

i think meo also can add masked to every pool

yeah

name tags that dont really work

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah experimental feature

[pulsar lotus]

ah yeah and the mask that pops when attacking too i remembered

[lofty sorrel]

Oh yeah that as well

[pulsar lotus]

wasn't using it tho so mirage alone is ok for me

[shrewd mirage]

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.6.3
PotatoePet-AdvancedCompany-1.1.1
Suskitech-AlwaysHearActiveWalkies-1.4.4
EliteMasterEric-CleanerLogs-1.0.0
Dreamweave-CompanyBuildingEnhancements-2.6.0
EliteMasterEric-Coroner-1.6.0
Yoshify-DiscJockey-1.2.1
linkoid-DissonanceLagFix-1.0.0
EladNLG-EladsHUD-1.2.1
TheFluff-FairAI-1.3.2
FlipMods-FasterItemDropship-1.2.1
Bobbie-FixRPCLag-1.0.1
Sligili-HDLethalCompany-1.5.6
malco-Lategame_Upgrades-3.1.1
kuba6000-LC_Masked_Fix-0.0.2
Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2022.11.9
xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI-2.1.5
Piggy-LC_Office-1.0.3
Hardy-LCMaxSoundsFix-1.0.0
xCeezy-LethalEscape-0.8.5
Evaisa-LethalThings-0.9.4
x753-Mimics-2.4.0
x753-More_Suits-1.4.1
Major_And_Skiz-MoreInteriors-2.5.0
Jordo-NeedyCats-1.1.1
Zaggy1024-OpenBodyCams-1.1.6
Zaggy1024-PathfindingLagFix-1.2.1
x753-Peepers-0.9.6
Nebulaetrix-ScanFix-1.0.3
scoopy-Scoopys_Variety_Mod-1.2.0
jaspercreations-Scopophobia-1.1.1
Badham_Mods-SCPFoundationDungeon-2.3.1
Venture-SilentLandmines-1.0.0
RugbugRedfern-Skinwalkers-4.0.1
Scoliosis-StrangerThingsMod-0.0.32
FlipMods-TooManyEmotes-1.9.1
OrangeSoft-Unlimited_Sell_Mod-1.0.0
akechii-DiscountAlert-2.3.0
bigmcnugget-VanillaContentExpansion-0.1.8
Theronguard-Emergency_Dice-1.1.13
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.14.2
fumiko-CullFactory-0.8.2
DrinkableWater-Brutal_Company_Minus-0.8.2
AboveFire-ShowMoonPriceLLL-1.1.0
mrgrm7-LethalCasino-0.2.4
AudioKnight-StarlancerMoons-0.5.6
IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader-1.1.6
ShaosilGaming-GeneralImprovements-1.1.9
LethalMatt-Outpost_31-1.1.5
Alice-ScarletDevilMansion-1.2.6
skidz-PoolRooms-0.1.12
Bobbie-UniTask-2.5.0
Bobbie-NAudio-2.2.2
qwbarch-BarchLib-1.0.0
qwbarch-Mirage-1.0.13
Dantor-Dantors_Mental_Hospital-1.0.3

[dark brook]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-we'll-take-it-from-here-pee-gif-124930185628804608

[dark brook]

oh and if you have the log you can also send it here

[shrewd mirage]

There was also MaskedEnemyOverhaul fork, but I removed it, I haven't tested without it yet.

[dark brook]

that one isnt the issue for sure

[inner idol]

sure

https://pastebin.com/NVH7RP5d

[shrewd mirage]

Unfortunately, I disabled the console and logging, and posted here because I saw you discussing this and thought you had found the problem

[dark brook]

#1200695291972685926 message
#1200695291972685926 message
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@upbeat compass
got more lists for you to maybe help narrow it down

[lofty sorrel]

Your error seems to begin here, after a Masked spawns from a vent

Mirage.Patch.SpawnMaskedEnemy+SpawnMaskedEnemy.start mimicking player is the common denominator

Alongside MaskedPlayerEnemy.DMDMaskedPlayerEnemy::Start

Out of interest @formal basin do you know who the broken Masked were trying to mimic? Like did they have cosmetics? Or were they completely vanilla?

[dark brook]

i think it might be different for client host

cause i saw one with my suit

[eternal bridge]

what's going on?

[dark brook]

and all the clients saw only orange ones

(also none had cosmetics)

the dumb masked also isnt spectatable for the host and doesnt have a name if you're running spectate enemies. clients can spectate it but it will be named Masked

[lofty sorrel]

Hm could definitely be related to the cosmetics fix thing, maybe Barch's method for that conflicts with some other mod's spawning mechanics

[eternal bridge]

what's hjis problerm

[dark brook]

barch said that modded moons overwrite the spawn option

btw

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-quagmire-glen-jaw-gif-22600043

[dark brook]

@lofty sorrel hm, i reckon you only tested this on rend?

[lofty sorrel]

I did yeah, I always pick Rend just cause it's The Masked Planet. I could try March?

[dark brook]

try a modded moon

like atlas

or etern

[lofty sorrel]

I've never used modded moons before, idk how to do that

[dark brook]

well you just get them and it works

[lofty sorrel]

You'd think

I'll try copying my profile and adding Atlas

[dark brook]

maybe its related to natural spawns...

but doesnt happen in vanilla cause Mirage overwrites those successfully

[lofty sorrel]

People have had the error with it both true and false, but depending on how its coded it could be causing some issue regardless

[dark brook]

yeah, thats why that config option doesnt matter

cause the issue happens on modded moons, and modded moons are unaffected by that option

so far i havent seen reports of vanilla moons?

[dark brook]

.

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah I don't know if they actually had a fully broken Masked then though or just the error spam

[dark brook]

:FakeNitroEmoji~4:

who knows

but trying to reproduce it on atlas wouldnt hurt

[lofty sorrel]

Loading up the game now

WHat's the route from the ship to the door, I landed and it's Foggy ;(

[maiden peak]

find the bridge forward rightish from the ship

then hug the right wall

[lofty sorrel]

Aha thank you

Just played a round and ran into 2 or 3 Masked, all fine, other than that they didn't have any cosmetics, though I didn't double check that I actually had cosmetics on so I'm gonna do anotehr one

And despite disabling spawning of all other creatures through AdvancedCompany, all enemies were still spawning

[lofty sorrel]

To note this was using the Enemies tab and not the Atlas Abyss specific settings, this time I am disabling other creatures using Atlas Abyss settings

[willow lily]

Is Mirage compatible with the Masked AI Revamp mod?

[lofty sorrel]

Yes

[willow lily]

Ok cool. Someone else told me they weren't but I wanted to ask here to double check

[lofty sorrel]

I'm not getting any errors on Atlas Abyss while playing solo at least. Although it should be noted, Masked on Atlas Abyss are not supposed to spawn outside, and yet in Gorenebeda's game one was attempting to spawn outside

[willow lily]

also what about MEO (or the fork version of it)?

Or is that redundant

[lofty sorrel]

Yep, as long as you use the compatibility setting n the fork's config

There's a couple things it still does on its own

[willow lily]

Ok good to know. Thank you!

[lofty sorrel]

No errors on Atlas Abyss solo for me, cosmetics are working fine too. Cross referencing our logs AdvancedCompany never calls this: [Message:AdvancedCompany] Masked player is mimicking player 0.

0 being any player index

Also this:
[Message:AdvancedCompany] Searching for bones of masked enemy.

The errors aren't AC related but this could be indicative that AC is never getting told about the Masked?

I could be derailing at this point, might be unrelated

But at the very least, the issue doesn't seem to be with custom moons existence

Has MoreInteriors been ruled out?

[lofty sorrel]

Just tried adding MoreInteriors, still no errors

I'm gonna leave it for now

[timber notch]

Might not be a bad idea to have a collection of bug reports for people having the issue

[pulsar lotus]

yeah like a known issue catogory you can ping and add things to

[vocal garnet]

I tried to disable LC_Masked_Fix, Possessed_Masks, MaskTheDead, MaskedAilRevamp and TooManyEmotions...
But disabling of More Company helped me

[willow lily]

I'm not sure if this can be fixed or not, but I noticed that if a player is using a model replacement suit, the masked enemy won't show as that model

[lofty sorrel]

Do you have AdvancedCompany?

[vocal garnet]

No

[dark brook]

Def not more company

[timber notch]

This is a great guide for bug reporting

Admittedly this server seems generally pretty good at reporting issues

[pulsar lotus]

Oh i meant a category where you can see what issues the mod has, before you post your issue

because ppl always ask the same questions

[willow lily]

Hopefully someone can help me here with this. I'm trying to use the Masked AI Revamp mod and the MEO fork with Mirage, but I'm coming across a few issues. One is that I set it so the masked will have the nameplate for the player they're mimicking, but it doesn't seem to show up (not sure if this is caused by nameplate tweaks mod maybe?). Another is that it seems to be ignoring the limit I set in the configs for how many can spawn. I left it as 2, but I saw up to 3 at one time. Lastly is that it seemed like they were spawning at extreme rates despite having it left as the vanilla spawnrate. The time I saw 3 masks was before it even hit 12 pm in game

[pulsar lotus]

I don't use the nameplates, can't say.
For the spawns have you tried desactivating the spawn and spawning them with something else ( AC, LQ, ...) ?

[willow lily]

I haven't tried that yet, no

Actually I just realized I have it set so they should only spawn if someone dies alone

Now I'm even more confused 🫠

[pulsar lotus]

mirage is spawning them like that , what about MEO ?

[willow lily]

MEO I have the vanilla spawns set to false

and then this is the rest of my settings

[pulsar lotus]

so you have no vanilla spawn, no spawn rarity, and spawn when a player die alone

and you have 3 masked, and no one died yet ?

[willow lily]

I was solo

Not sure if that changes the functionality

[pulsar lotus]

lol

[willow lily]

Maybe something to do with the fact I had it set so they could spawn outside

Because I went inside the facility and after like 30 seconds in there I heard the dropship come down so I knew it had to be a masked so I went back. Then after a couple minutes a 2nd one came over and went to the terminal. Then another couple minutes later I heard another one walking over

[deft cape]

gonna slowly try to go through the messages

[timber notch]

The GOAT has arrived

[pulsar lotus]

if no one died MEO probably spawned them

something made it bug

and the value in cfg wasn't read correctly

[deft cape]

if you have "enable natural spawn" or whatever it's called in mirage, it just re-enables vanilla spawns. anything to do with spawns is not from mirage

[deft cape]

yep people here have been super helpful with bug reports already

[eternal bridge]

QWBARCH WE LOVE YOU

[deft cape]

is this from testing on one client? player 0 is the first player, unless for whatever reason the player object that's being pointed to wasn't loaded properly

wait if anyone is still testing, could you try mirage 1.0.12? i just want to make sure it's not from a bug fix that i did

like i doubt it's the cause of it but i just want to rule it being a possible issue

[lofty sorrel]

In all cases the AdvancedCompany messages reference mimicking a player, be that player 0, 1, 2 etc. 0 was just for me because I was testing sol9o, in the other people's logs there are Masked that spawn fine and are stated to be mimicking a player, but for the Masked that spawn broken it does not state them to be mimicking anybody

[deft cape]

usually not seeing any cosmetics is from the mimicking player not being set, but since advanced company logs shows that it's player 0, something is definitely wrong (just not sure which mod is conflicting)

[deft cape]

ok yeah that makes more sense. only masked enemies that don't have an associated player should be missing their cosmetics

[lofty sorrel]

The cosmetics thing was my mistake, I just didn't have any on

[deft cape]

ah

[eternal bridge]

qwbarch what are you planning for the next update 👀

[lofty sorrel]

To be clear, all of the testing I did I did not run into any issues, I was trying to reproduce the issues others were having but everything was fine for me

[deft cape]

are you using j ust mirage for hiding the arms out animation? i just want to make sure it's a bug from mirage

because i've never run into this before

[deft cape]

well for now, just bug fixes... 😭

[deft cape]

OHHHH ok thanks for clearing that up

[eternal bridge]

IDEAS

[deft cape]

i've already got ideas for a major update

[eternal bridge]

STEAL IDEAS FROM THE VARIOUS MASKED RELATED THREADS 👀 umm i mean uhhhh ummmm.. borrow them.

[deft cape]

but just gonna have to reveal what it is after i get more work on it first

but yeah for a major update it'll be revealed later on

bug fixes is just eating up my time for now sadly lmao

[eternal bridge]

you are so cool you basically made skinwalkers but better

[willow lily]

So is there a way to still make it so the masked only spawns on player death with the otehr 2 mods installed?

[deft cape]

it's not that they overrwrite, it's that i modify the spawns before the modded moons add theirs, but same shit

[deft cape]

which other 2?

[willow lily]

The MEO fork and Masked Ai Revamp

[deft cape]

you don't need MEO fork if you don't want spawn control

unless you're just using it for the zombie apocalypse

either way you could have it turn off spawns for itself

i don't think MaskedAIRevamp affects spawn rates

[deft cape]

thanks glad you like it, got more plans on making it better once the bugs are ironed out 😄

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-death-danlkari-funny-the-company-gif-15599970391348620208

[eternal bridge]

i have an idea: option to change how long it takes for the masked to turn you (the barf 🤢 ) so that it's easier to be saved

or: you can spam E to get a masked off you (very small window)

[deft cape]

i think for masked enemy mechanics like that, it'd fit more in another mod

for mirage i'm trying to keep it mostly on deception with voices (and potentially ai changes)

[eternal bridge]

...ok

maybe masked ai revamp

..but then again i think it'll be another like.. 5 months before piggy updates it

[willow lily]

Would you be open to adding a config for showing nameplates above the mimic like in MEO?

[lofty sorrel]

Welcome to modding I guess, people have lives and it gets in the way

[deft cape]

showing nameplates will have to come later on

[lofty sorrel]

Give modders a salary, and then... Then we're talking

[deft cape]

focusing on other features first

[deft cape]

that'd be the dream

alright gonna continue reading the messages later, i gotta go make dinner and whatnot first

[lament mica]

It's fairly easy already?
It's actually too easy tbh.
They get stuck in an animation loop when you hit them to cancel turning your friend.

[eternal bridge]

w-well... i still want the E spamming mechanic for solo runs 😭

[lament mica]

You can shovel them off in solo but yeah timing is key

That's fair

[fading sapphire]

Shovel:

https://tenor.com/view/mmm-licking-lips-lip-biting-faded-discord-mod-gif-26474829

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/seducing-man-gif-26890124

[fading sapphire]

What do you guys think is the most satisfying creature to beat up

I like the sounds of thumpers and baboon hawks

[eternal bridge]

the player hit sound effect

so masked

[fading sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-lethal-company-sus-lethal-company-betrayal-lethal-company-bonk-bonk-gif-3707507044460843074

[eternal bridge]

or maybe hoarding bugs cuz they're just pests

but that is the same for masked

[fading sapphire]

Masked have a satisfying sound for sure

[lament mica]

The dog because
You have to dodge
And it takes like 12 hits.
Super satisfying to win

[fading sapphire]

I wish dogs had a hit sound like other creatures 😭

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-junkrat-ive-got-an-idea-gif-11742632

[lament mica]

You can opt in for killing them with the extension ladder. Less hits but harder.

[fading sapphire]

I don't think i've ever weaponised ladders outside of teamkills, I wasn't even aware it does damage to creatures

[eternal bridge]

ladder's cant kill masekd

[lament mica]

I have weaponized everything lol. Like dropping metal near mobs and watching zeus himself give me a hand.

[eternal bridge]

guys look at this threadzhttps://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1207492212867465307

[fading sapphire]

I love using a boombox and shovels during stormy to lure dogs, or just running a little and dropping a zapping item for them 😂

I once killed a masked with a worm too, throwable everything has let me weaponise landmines very well

[vocal garnet]

Anybody encountered this?
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1207830277544742953

[formal basin]

cant say who it tried to mimic but it didn't have any cosmetics and had a vanilla suit which none of us had

[lofty sorrel]

Was this before Mirage 1.0.13

[formal basin]

haven't used mirage before

[lofty sorrel]

wDYM??

[fading sapphire]

As in you've never used it until now?

[wicked folio]

Is there a mod, which increases masked spawn rate among all planers, that works with this mod?

[fading sapphire]

There's a few, LethalLevelLoader v1.1.5/6 has spawn configs but i've found it messed up moons on my profile so i'd wait til 1.1.7, LethalQuantities is an amazing top level solution for adding a rarity across the board or individually on moons but doesn't play nice with LLL 1.1.5/6 so you'd need to use 1.1.4, there's also the MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork which will do the same top level spawn weight

AdvancedCompany too but I don't use that

[inner idol]

I like mirage mechanic of spawning zombies way more tbh

So many times we was surprised to the death

But i'm talking about like 10% chance and when player is alone

[fading sapphire]

Oh yeah masked spawnondeath is a great one, I really like that

[formal basin]

yeah
We've only installed mirage yesterday along with maskedfix

[fading sapphire]

Aw man and that is the current version?

[formal basin]

it should be unless it got updated today

[inner idol]

That's strange, we played this evening and cosmetics was in place, along with the suits

[fading sapphire]

Mind sending over your profile code? Just so I can have a nosey at what can spawn masked

[formal basin]

profile code?

[lofty sorrel]

It's to do with the custom moons spawning Masked error spam whatever issue, not the cosmetics alone

They aren't using a mod manager

[fading sapphire]

r2modman/thunderstore export

[formal basin]

oh im installing all manually yeah

[small glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[inner idol]

https://i.imgur.com/q9VkiDi.png

[fading sapphire]

All I can say is that I recommend using a mod manager to help resolve incompatibilities between mods and using latest versions

[inner idol]

can you imagine manually updating all these 95 mods, lol?

[fading sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/perrito-sorprendido-shocked-dog-gif-14579854

[inner idol]

and, even worse, syncing all of them to friends to play with

[gloomy crow]

A singular missing semi-colon:

[small glacier]

^ Subtract 3 tho which are disabled

[inner idol]

and your game is not dying from the network desyncs all the time?

[small glacier]

Lua doesn't need semicolons B)

[formal basin]

i send my entire BeplnEx folder through the gdrive to sync

[inner idol]

poor you 😄

with mod manager, you do it like this: 018daf5e-d4fa-b05c-0022-9c19d1adb3cb

people enter that into the profile and voila

all mods and configs synced

[formal basin]

there are some custom images/sounds/videos that I've manually added too

[fading sapphire]

something about being shrimple

[inner idol]

that's trickier, but still possible to release on thunderstore for personal use

many people do this all the time

[formal basin]

are there private mods?

[inner idol]

no, i don't think so

but we're not talking about NSFW or sensitive info?

[small glacier]

NSFW isn't allowed?? D:

[inner idol]

i mean something like full hardcore mode

[lofty sorrel]

If it's custom images sounds and videos that are being used by an existing mod, then you can have those in your local files and won't be public

[fading sapphire]

Nah there's a separate category iirc

[inner idol]

i don't think thunderstore will allow that

[small glacier]

Oh, pheeew

[fading sapphire]

It does

[small glacier]

Oh wait

[formal basin]

uhhhhh

[small glacier]

I literally have a NSFW one installed, IDK why I got scared

[inner idol]

props to them then

[formal basin]

i do have some personal stuff there though

[lofty sorrel]

Personal mods, or personal stuff within other people's mods?

[formal basin]

and a guide to make actual gunpowder

[small glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-10374658

[fading sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/heres-pipe-bomb-santa-pipe-bomb-gif-24143658

[formal basin]

ill stick to the folder sharing

[fading tusk]

you dont?

i manually update mine

[formal basin]

maybe ill try doing a fresh install with mod manager

[fading tusk]

cuz i read the changelog before updating

[inner idol]

me too, but doing it from mod manager

[fading sapphire]

You can do that in the mod manager

[fading tusk]

i did clear all my mods once. took 6 hours from downloading and readding all the configs

[inner idol]

it doesn't force you to update everything at once

[fading tusk]

i have a lot of mods that has conflicts so i had to manually make them compatible

[lofty sorrel]

It would be much easier to bug fix knowing exactly which version of each mod you have and having an easy way to give it to modders and other people to test and bugfix

[fading tusk]

some mods will never update like InsanityRemastered tho

[inner idol]

and some mods update 5 times a day

you have to be very determined to manually merge all your changes

😄

if you mean editing the mods of course

[small glacier]

InsanityRemastered shall never become compatible with SpaceSunShine, it is doomed to whirl in eternal loneliness

[formal basin]

the logs I've sent do tell the version of mods i have now though

but testing yeah

ill try to fix it today

[lofty sorrel]

They do, but it's far easier to just have them in the mod manager where it tells you what version number everything is there, and if it's up to date etc etc

Manually installing mods is fine if you know what you're doing, and I mean know know, but if you start running into bugs you can't fix, it's worth having the mod manager

[formal basin]

it was fine until yesterday but i get your point

i can probably still sync custom stuff properly by sending the folder

[gloomy crow]

True dat.

[modern hinge]

Hello, I have seen this mod several times and it has caught my attention, in what ways is it different to skinwalker and masked enemy overhaul?

I read many of the features and they are not too different from the two mods

[inner idol]

It's like skinwalkers, but fully synced

So everyone hears the same

It can also hide masks and animations, but can't spawn masked enemies from vents

Instead, there's a chance (configurable) for dead player to become zombie

And you can also set that it happens only when he's alone

[modern hinge]

Interesting, I like that. One more question, is there a mod that makes friends be able to speak through enemies?

[inner idol]

I'm pretty sure i've seen one on thunderstore one day

[eternal bridge]

yes, let me find it

[modern hinge]

Ima try this mod too

[modern hinge]

You are awesome thx

[eternal bridge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Quixler/DeadAndBored/

[modern hinge]

Ah thank you

[eternal bridge]

basically a mod to be the skinwalker

[modern hinge]

Could I use mirage and this mod at the same time or is there conflict?

[eternal bridge]

you can use them at the same time, just space out when you talk

[modern hinge]

fair

thx

[lofty sorrel]

No conflict, but there's no real reason to use both. You'll just end up having way too many voices, some being synced between players and some not

[deft cape]

wait a second i thought i removed that patch

i wonder if removing it will fix the issue lol

does anyone have a list of what to do that i can reproduce on my end

to get this lag issue

[lofty sorrel]

If they did I'd have been reproducing it ;(

[deft cape]

😭

all good

[deft cape]

probably not this since the issue is with natural spawns right now (i think)

[lofty sorrel]

For B1ade's they were on a modded moon running on LECore with natural spawns off, I'll check what moon exactly
#1200695291972685926 message

154 Etern

Line 97066 of B1ade's log is when the first Masked error spam occurs

[deft cape]

ah gotcha i'll take a look

[deft cape]

gonna try and test this since there isn't too many mods, and the screenshot that debby showed gives me some clues on what it might be from

@formal basin @dark brook just wanna make sure, both of you are seeing enemies that aren't mimicking a player properly, as well as having lag issues right

[deft cape]

i never thought of looking up the il instruction directly, that's smart

[formal basin]

yeah
that mimic couldnt be interacted with too

[deft cape]

gotcha thanks for confirming

hopefully i'm able to reproduce the error

wait i see you have atlas abyss installed, which another user reported could be a conflict with mirage

@formal basin was it happening on any moon?

also could you describe the simplest way i can reproduce the error, is it just literally spawning some masked enemies

[formal basin]

i remember the log spam on march related to maskedplayerenemy, though no one has seen them
the second time it started lagging was on atlas abyss, when an outside masked spawned

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-giant-the-oldest-view-kane-pixels-julien-reverchon-horror-arg-gif-9178767115099325297

[deft cape]

yeah spawning on the outside of atlas caused lag for another player, so that confirms that part specifically

[formal basin]

i do have natural spawning enabled for more "vanilla" spawning too

[deft cape]

yeah but either way that setting shouldn't cause an issue so the setting specifically is unrelated

[eternal bridge]

whats the poroblem

[deft cape]

@formal basin could you send me your profile code actually

it's taking forever for me to install them one by one on r2

[formal basin]

ill make the pack later today, i really installed them manually

[deft cape]

😭

[formal basin]

sorry 🥲

[deft cape]

all good

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-bald-smile-gif-4476474669408632234

[deft cape]

was not expecting to see bald speed here

LMFAO

[eternal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-shitpost-meme-gif-26888425

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf-memes-foxy-fnaf-meme-fnaf-movie-gif-16593731238594078238

[tight ivy]

do you guys recommend this mod over combining Masked Enemy Overhaul and Skinwalker mod?

[willow lily]

Skinwalker would be redundant since Mirage has configs for every single monster

It's just only set to masked enemies by default

[chilly raven]

It seems that broken mask issue is worse lol. It can apply to dogs we now have permanent dogs with AI somehow

I have no idea how this one occured I simply went to Outpost 31

[deft cape]

that's so odd, can you send your new logs

[chilly raven]

(wrapper dynamic-method) MaskedPlayerEnemy.DMD<MaskedPlayerEnemy::LateUpdate>(MaskedPlayerEnemy)

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MaskedPlayerEnemy.LookAtFocusedPosition () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0185)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MaskedPlayerEnemy.DMD<MaskedPlayerEnemy::LateUpdate>(MaskedPlayerEnemy)

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MaskedPlayerEnemy.LookAtFocusedPosition () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_01B5)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MaskedPlayerEnemy.DMD<MaskedPlayerEnemy::LateUpdate>(MaskedPlayerEnemy)

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MaskedPlayerEnemy.LookAtFocusedPosition () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0185)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MaskedPlayerEnemy.DMD<MaskedPlayerEnemy::LateUpdate>(MaskedPlayerEnemy)

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MaskedPlayerEnemy.LookAtFocusedPosition () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_01B5)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MaskedPlayerEnemy.DMD<MaskedPlayerEnemy::LateUpdate>(MaskedPlayerEnemy)

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
EnemyAI.SetClientCalculatingAI (System.Boolean enable) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0007)
EnemyAI.Update () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_026B)
MaskedPlayerEnemy.Update () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0000)

This is all I can really grab as it spams the log so fast anything of use was lost

[deft cape]

oof it's that same error as before

does this happen often

[chilly raven]

Yeah it is just brining dogs along for some reason

[deft cape]

i'm trying to figure out how to reproduce the error

[chilly raven]

Not until I vist a modded moon it seems

[deft cape]

ah

[pulsar lotus]

do you mean they stay on the ship ?

[chilly raven]

Yes

in orbit

and not

[pulsar lotus]

😮

[chilly raven]

forever

They are with us

[pulsar lotus]

as long as they help you collect loot, why not !

[chilly raven]

Visted Outpost 31 this time and noticed the double mask issue

Which is odd as that was fixed for atlas abyss

[timber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-v1-gabriel-gif-26595155

[deft cape]

sorry i didn't notice this message until now. could you send me your profile code?

[timber notch]

Can dog interact with you at all?

Or is it like you’re both in different dimensions and can’t touch