Mirage

[inner idol]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/F4ilS4fe/MaskTheDead/

works perfectly alongside mirage

[patent nacelle]

Ooooh

[lofty sorrel]

If I'm not mistaken, I think Spawn Rarity sets the weight of Masked against the weight of all other potential spawnable creatures. So say a dungeon somehow can only spawn Brackens, Masked and Spiders. Bracken Spawn Rarity: 20, Masked Spawn Rarity: 15, Spider Spawn Rarity: 60. When a creature is spawned from a vent it will choose based on the weights. So 20 + 15 + 60 = 95, Spider has 60/95 chance, Bracken 20/95 chance, Masked 15/95 chance. I might be wrong on that slightly I haven't actually looked under the hood but that's what I've heard and it seems to match with my experience

[inner idol]

yeah, like a pie chart

[lofty sorrel]

Can I just confirm, is this because Mirage disables natural Masked spawns, or is it just because it's using vanilla Masked spawn settings? Like if I have another mod that controls creature spawn rates can I still get Masked that way?

[inner idol]

it uses vanilla

[lofty sorrel]

Alright cool, thank you

[inner idol]

it's not enabled by default

but you can

[lofty sorrel]

Ahh okay makes sense

[inner idol]

what mod do you use to control spawn rates by the way?

i'm looking for a good one

[lofty sorrel]

I'm using Advanced Company to handle multiple facets of the game atm so it's not an easy one to add to a modpack

[inner idol]

oh

i like AC but doesn't like that it kills my FPS for some reason

so i guess i need another solution

[lofty sorrel]

Hm, that's never been an issue for me, but that is a dealbreaker

[patent nacelle]

That config was suprisingly easy

[remote iris]

Yes thats how it works tho its still confusing af to me

[lofty sorrel]

It's a little unintuitive unless you visualise the pie chart

[inner idol]

best case if you manually set all weights for each moon

so you can fully control what's happening

otherwise it's pretty tricky

the more enemy mods you add - the less vanilla ones you will see

but it also depend on weight of the enemy, more weight = less other enemies

so yeah, tricky

[lofty sorrel]

Pie chart using this example

[remote iris]

Ah that makes more sense

Sorry didnt understand cuz english aint my first language

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah you're all good

To demonstrate that the chances are relative to how much spawn rarity there is in total

[elfin knoll]

i had a question

what does this mean

mutelocalplayervoice
whether or not mimicking voices should be muted if it's the local player's voice

am i understanding this correctly?
if i enable this me as a player i won't be able to hear my own voice mimicked,
so does this apply to every single person?

i mean they can still hear my voice, but i just won't be able to hear my own voice

other players can't hear their own voice, but other players will be able?

i mean i'm not sure if i'm understanding it correctly, it basically disables/enables the ability to hear your own voice being mimicked but other people can still hear it

[remote iris]

Ye

[elfin knoll]

ahh okay

[remote iris]

That differs on every moon so its annoying af right?

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah but you don't really need to figure out the exact chances of things spawning as long as the numbers are within reason

[remote iris]

So how does this work on interiors

Experimentation has like 1% chance of getting mansion and rest is industrial

Im still a bit confused my brain might be fried

[lofty sorrel]

Idk how that works really, I imagine that could just be percentage based as there's only two interiors in the base game. Spawn rarity makes more sense when you have a lot of options to choose from cause you don't need to change every value to make it add up to 100% every time you change any spawn rates

[remote iris]

Ah kk

[lofty sorrel]

Scrap spawn rates are done the same way as creatures btw

[remote iris]

Guess everything is done based on the rarity value system

Also this is the first game ive heard use this system

[lofty sorrel]

It's because the game is limited to time and space. There is a limited number of things that can spawn in a day. In Minecraft for example, you can have a % chance of monsters spawning in a distance from the player because there's rarely a limit to how many you can have,and they can just be continuously spawned over and over again. The % spawn rates of games like Minecraft don't depend on the number of other monsters either. Like if a Jester spawns in LC, its spawn rarity will be removed from the total because another one is impossible to spawn that day

[remote iris]

Makes sense

[lofty sorrel]

So if it's Bracken 40, Masked 20, Jester 30

And a Jester spawns

It changes to just Bracken 40, Masked 20

So instead of it being a 20/90 chance a Masked spawns, it becomes a 20/60

[remote iris]

Ohhh now i understand

[lofty sorrel]

Yeahhh. It works the same way for scrap, there's just obviously a lot more scrap. Idk how the interiors work. but probably not like that cause there's only 2

And the chances don't change

[remote iris]

Nah when i added custom interiors it turned out it works on rarity values

[stark rampart]

I would use this and Possesed masks so you can find them in all moons

[lofty sorrel]

It might with custom interiors, I'm just not sure on how vanilla works

[remote iris]

Kk

[lofty sorrel]

With big lobbies I think this is fine, though in smaller lobbies it does kind of suck not being able to experience Masked unless a quarter of your team is dead

[stark rampart]

Possesed is for that

so you can die next to a mask more often

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah but I'd rather my teammates not have to die for a Masked to spawn at all. I do like players turning into Masked when they die, I just would like to also be able to experience Masked before deaths if that makes sense

[stark rampart]

how you do that

with MEO

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah MEO, or any mod that lets you change spawn rarities of creatures

[stark rampart]

Does this disable the SpawnOnPlayerDeath mechanic?

@deft cape sorry to ping but just wanna know

[lofty sorrel]

I don't think it does, but best to double check

[maiden peak]

if one player doesn't have it installed will it cause any issues?

[deft cape]

nope spawnonplayerdeath still works alongside it

[deft cape]

yes everyone needs to install it

otherwise you'll run into desync issues

[deft cape]

correct, it's to avoid hearing your own voice when it's mimicked.

when you're dead you'll be able to hear the mimic again (well except that it's broken right now so not until i fix it)

[maiden peak]

this mod looks amazing btw

I plan on using it in a big group, half of which is new to modding. what settings do you recommend?

I was thinking low chance to convert if you're alone

so we're not spammed with masked but still have a chance to run into them

[deft cape]

if you want a more vanilla experience, SpawnWhenPlayerAlone to true (or whatever it's called)

other than that im not sure what else to suggest since it highly depends on the things you like

[maiden peak]

I want basically maximum confusion

[maiden peak]

how alone is alone?

[maiden peak]

so I was thinking voice lines every 7 - 18 seconds rather than 12, to prevent it from being obvious too quickly

and blocking the local player from hearing themself

[deft cape]

you'd have to test it a bit to get a feeling for it, the distance for it is from vanilla itself

yeah that sounds pretty good to me

[maiden peak]

gotcha

[deft cape]

wait just keep in mind rn this is slightly bugged, you wont be able to hear your mimicked voice even while dead

gonna look into this when i get on my pc later

[maiden peak]

gotcha

I figured with a larger group, hearing yourself would be a dead giveaway and people would likely bunch up

[deft cape]

yeahh thats the reason i originally did the spawn on death mechanic with disabled natural spawns

the mute thing was suggested by someone else here

[stark rampart]

its still horrifying hearing yourself, it makes you feel so confused and scared

like there is a creature out there mimicking YOU and your voice

[maiden peak]

true, hmmmmmmm

[stark rampart]

scary scenario lol

[maiden peak]

I guess since my group is inexperienced itd be less likely to give things away

[stark rampart]

never thought that way

I think if you have a more experienced team you should turn that off

but with new people let it on so they get confused and scared lol

[maiden peak]

yeah

50% of people in this group have never played lethal company before actually

well once in the same room as each other

[stark rampart]

Well, I'm gonna share my config for this mod. It makes Mimics way more unpredictable and scary in my opinion

See what you think

Pair it with MaskedAIRevamp and they will look just like players

[maiden peak]

Is MaskedAIRevamp still buggy with masked obsessing over objects?

[remote iris]

I think they fixed that

They fixed a lot of stuff

[deft cape]

thats a hella good point, that does sound pretty good for new players

after a couple games they'll probably get used to it though, and that's when having the local player muted would be nice

[deft cape]

is anyone getting a "glitched voice" issue? just got a report about it, surprised the issue never came up while i was testing yesterday

[remote iris]

Wish i could test

[deft cape]

all good

just tried testing this with someone else and we couldn't reproduce this

if there's a voice mimicking me while i'm alive, i can't hear anything, and when i die, i'm able to hear it

not sure why it doesn't work on your end

[lilac saffron]

ill try testing it again

[deft cape]

lmk the results

[deft cape]

probably no update for tonight, i'm investigating an issue with voice filters seemingly still not being applied at times

[oblique raven]

does the mod still work? like is it broken?

[fading sapphire]

Hey just a heads up for all those people using MEO for masked spawns, looks like this mod will allow you to configure spawns without AC if you don't use that, I'll try it tonight and see

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/BananaPuncher714/LethalQuantities/

[deft cape]

getting some mixed feedback right now so not entirely sure. i was testing the mod and thought there was an issue but it turned out to be a false alarm

[deft cape]

but regarding this for voice filters, and while it's an issue, the mod is still playable

@fading sapphire btw were you able to try mirage 1.0.8 a decent bit today? did you run into any issues

[fading sapphire]

Our timezones must be a large amount of time apart, I just woke up 😅 I'll get it tested after work with one of my mates and let you know, what issues are you looking for? I saw the one about robot voices?

And as in saw that one I mean I read your message, didn't get that in game

[deft cape]

oh the robotic voices thing i deleted, since i think it's a false alarm

most likely was just from me letting go off my push-to-talk button way too early

and for issues, really just any issues at all, don't recall seeing anyone report issues today other than melon regarding the local player mute thing, but that seems to work for me

[remote iris]

Its 12 pm for me rn

[deft cape]

4am for me, i kinda screwed up my sleep schedule when i was trying to get fixes for mirage out lmao

[oblique raven]

1:30am

[deft cape]

if anyone tried the mod today, could you comment if you ran into any issues? or if you ran into no issues, that's good feedback as well

just want to make sure i have a better idea of what everyone's running into

[oblique raven]

ill try it rn :D

[deft cape]

sounds good tyty

[oblique raven]

wait.... nvm i need friends :')

[deft cape]

can relate 😭

[remote iris]

Yall can tesr rogether but you kinda need to go to sleep

[oblique raven]

maths time, if its 1:30am for me and 4am for hime that 3 and a half hour dif

holy fuck my typeing is bad rn

[fading sapphire]

Well I like to give feedback where I can, makes me sad that the Callisto moon mod dev hadn't got a github repository or a thread here 😭

I'll see about getting my fellas together and playing some after work

[deft cape]

@fading sapphire btw if you're testing the MEO change with the line that i mentioned removed, lmk if that fixes the issue that you were having

cuz that might be the common issue people were having with outfit/voice mimicking mismatches

also one thing that i think is an issue right now is that the volume of the mimics don't seem to be the exact same

it was fine before but

when i was testing earlier

sometimes it seems quieter

[fading sapphire]

Nah I adjusted my pack last night to remove MEO, gonna just use quantities to adjust spawns as I see fit, also wondering how it touches loot, I'd like to increase what Experimentation has by a little bit

Yeah at this point I think people are just using MEO for the spawning of Masked on all moons since Mirage shares a lot of features

I'll see if I can find discrepancies, time to go to Atlas Abyss 😂

[deft cape]

aightt sounds good

if that fixes it as well it's confirmed MEO then

which i'll have to just point ppl to use a spawn control mod lke you have

[fading sapphire]

I mean by default it's a bit like Mikestweaks which is awesome, one of those mods where you can pick what you like from it and entirely have what you don't want disabled

[abstract valve]

what is this?

[deft cape]

that's weird, it's trying to create a file when it should already know not to

never ran into this myself before :/

are you running 2 instances of the same game folder rn?

[oblique raven]

cant this happen if you delete the configs?

[abstract valve]

interesting 💀

yup i was trying to diagnose a stuttering issue that only happens to me (host) when i play with my friends. so i used 2 instances

[fading tusk]

stuttering?

[abstract valve]

yes i still don't know why

[fading tusk]

do you alt+tab?

[abstract valve]

it might be morecompany but still not sure

[fading tusk]

im having some sort of issue with morecompany too

[abstract valve]

either way it happens

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1205196292599451750

no one else is reporting this issue. i'm alone

[oblique raven]

is Skinwalkers copatible with mirage?

@deft cape

[abstract valve]

yes but what's the point?

[oblique raven]

wait does mirage spawn a fake player model with the voice or does it do the same thing as Skinwalkers by RugbugRedfern

k thought it did the first

[abstract valve]

with the default config, when someone dies, they turn into masked enemy that mimics their voice and the voice is synced with everyone

[oblique raven]

ok good thats what i thought

[abstract valve]

but you can change alot of things from the config

[oblique raven]

k ima go to sleep its 3am rn :P

[abstract valve]

you can enable vanilla spawn, disable zombification, enable mimicking for other entities and so on

[oblique raven]

thats cool lol

[abstract valve]

so it can do what skinwalkers and maskedenemyoverhaul can do

[oblique raven]

btw

He praised =حَمَدْ

right :D

ok gn :P

[abstract valve]

had to google search lmao but yeah something like that

[abstract valve]

aight gn

[deft cape]

yeah the issue from the error you posted is because both clients are trying to create the same file at the same time.
are you using voice activity? i recommend using push to talk so that it only activates your voice on one client at a time

(only while testing i mean)

[abstract valve]

it's alright atleast ik that's not the issue

[deft cape]

o

[abstract valve]

i love when i update all mods and new problems arise 🥲

[deft cape]

that's the sad experience of lethal company modding

compared to say minecraft mods

hope you're able to find out what's causing the micro stutters

(and i also hope it's not from mirage 😭)

[abstract valve]

true

[abstract valve]

lmao i don't think it is (maybe 😭 )

the only way to test is with friends so i have to wait

or maybe with 4 players. i'll try 4 instances

[fading sapphire]

I recall microstutters from Skinwalkers was entirely due to the saving of audio files or checking, this was resolved by having lethal company installed onto an SSD due to the much higher IO speeds compared to a HDD

Not sure how different Mirage handles this but ever since I've had the game on my spare SSD

[abstract valve]

that was never an issue for me even with skinwalkers

i can't seem to reproduce this issue in LAN by myself

[remote iris]

I forgot how you get harakat on letters in arabic

[remote iris]

I dont need that because i have a noise gate on my mic

[abstract valve]

i used my phone a long time ago lmao

[remote iris]

So when it doesnt detect audio above or at 40 decibles it wont capture the audio

[pulsar lotus]

You can use lethal quantities

[deft cape]

im just gonna assume theres no major bugs since nobody has reported any yet

[pulsar lotus]

i'm testing it (new version) with friends soon (not today) will tell you if i find anything !

[deft cape]

you don't have this issue on mirage right

oh wait just read ur other msg

u solved it for skinwalkers by puttimg LC on an ssd

so either way it wouldn't be noticable on mirage

it shouldnt be an issue on mirage, just wanna confirm

[fading sapphire]

Yeah not experienced it on anything since the SSD move, All A okay from me

[remote iris]

Oh that prob makes sense for me aswell i use an ssd

[deft cape]

wondering if anyone else with an hdd is experiencing it then

like it shouldn't happen for mirage but yeah i just wanna make sure

[timber notch]

Question: if you use ghost girl with the mod, is it possible to hear your own voice with her? Or will she always be set to cycle between random ones including your own

[deft cape]

right now it's possible to hear your own voice (unless you have the mute mimicking local player setting enabled)

didn't think about this much before but it doesn't make sense to hear your own voice if you're being haunted so, i'll have to make it haunt only other players

[timber notch]

Yeah hearing your own voice while being haunted wouldn’t really work as well lol

[deft cape]

yeah 😂

i'll fix it in the next update whenever that is

[timber notch]

[deft cape]

did another playtest and couldn't find any bugs, other than that voice filters are still not 1:1 with the actual player voices

i'm assuming mirage is at a decently stable release, especially with the fact that there's not many bug reports since 1.0.8

[lofty sorrel]

Only issue I'm having rn is with MEO cosmetics not seeming to work with Mirage but that isn't a Mirage bug and ik you're planning on adding cosmetics yourself anyways

[deft cape]

im gonna test MEO just to make sure but im pretty sure it makes the suit/voice not match

since MEO sets the mimicking player to a random player

[pulsar lotus]

what do you mean by "voice filters are still not 1:1 with the actual player voices" ?

not the right player with skin ?

[deft cape]

doesnt sound the exact same

if you're standing side by side with the real player talking

vs a mimic

[pulsar lotus]

oh you mean the quality of the sound ?

[deft cape]

yeah

[gloomy crow]

Tbh keep that in the mod and redo it to make it 1:1 and make it configurable

[pulsar lotus]

oh ok ok

that's ok

[deft cape]

the suits match unless you have a mod that changes who the masked enemy is mimicking

[gloomy crow]

Hearing ur friend but having them sound off

Yeah no that's kinda cool imo

But some people want 1:1 to make it harder to notice

[deft cape]

voice filters are just not the same rn, not really a feature xdd

[gloomy crow]

Yeah but what if it was

Oh and an idea for model replacement that I feel like putting here

Maybe keeping inactive mimics under the map with the players models and teleporting them to the player after they turn into a mimic (and deleting the dead body) might be a good idea

Might be a good idea

[stark rampart]

why do you use MEO with Mirage?

[lofty sorrel]

Cosmetics

[stark rampart]

just wanna know so I might implement

[deft cape]

spawn control is another thing

[gloomy crow]

Wdym?

[lofty sorrel]

I use a different mod for that but I could

[deft cape]

that might fit better in another mod tbh, idk if i wanna have masked enemies tping on ppl

[stark rampart]

I use AC and we have cosmetics off. Only thing I noticed is that the custom helmet AC implements on the model is not copied by Mirage

perhaps MEO can copy that?

[gloomy crow]

No I mean like

When a player dies/gets "infected" instead of spawning a mimic and having the mimic copy the suit and cosmetics, it'd have every individual players model saved under the map

So instead of spawning a mimic and making it copy the player, it'd just activate the mimic and teleport it to where the mimic would usually spawn and delete the dead body

[lofty sorrel]

I don't even know what that is, but MEO cosmetics don't work with Mirage cause they handle assigning players differently

[gloomy crow]

Well maybe not under the map, could probably be done a different way but that's the idea I got

[lofty sorrel]

All this really does is change when the info is grabbed, and wouldn't account for players changing cosmetics/suits while landed

[gloomy crow]

Wait no ur right

[lofty sorrel]

What even is that??

[stark rampart]

something from AC

for you to use helmet lamp or whatever

you can basically tell which one is the mimic and which one is not by looking at that

[gloomy crow]

Ok I think this would be better

Instead of the game using the scavenger model and applying the current suit and cosmetics, couldn't it be patched in to instead use the mimicked players model (client-sided aspect)
(So if one player saw a player is using something like the CompanyIssuedProtogen mod and another is using ModelReplacementAPI, they'll both see the mimic as the same player the same on both clients)

[granite aspen]

For spawn control, another alternative to AC would be LethalEditor. Should work fine with this mod. If you're looking to change vanilla values.

[deft cape]

so just tested MEO, from what i've noticed it seems to not really be an issue for natural spawns

but for masked enemies that spawn on player death, it definitely screws it up

so if anyone here is running into issues where the suit/voice doesn't match, it's very likely from MEO

[deft cape]

i'll have to look at how it works later when i start working on cosmetics

[ashen sage]

I had a blast with this mod last night keep up the good work man this mod is fun af

An for anyone wondering it works fine with the masked overhaul

[fading sapphire]

Just done some tests and I think I made an oopsies on LethalQuantities, although this does bring up something interesting! We came across... a party of sorts where they all wanted to be in a corner, 2 of which mimicked me with my maroon suit but the other 3 were orange. We had a player drop out of the session and I think it then still tried to get Player 2 which I can assume are the orange ones

Also the voice line pool seemed a bit too low for me and my mate, I got back to the ship to find his mimic saying " Right I'll meet you in there" twice in a row 😅

[timber notch]

Does this include or exclude turned players

Like ones that use a mask/are turned by a mask

[deft cape]

glad you like it!

[deft cape]

it's completely random so playing the same voices can happen

[deft cape]

oh wait that includes masked enemies turned by another mask actually

so yeah MEO is going on the incompatible list

[timber notch]

Phooey lol

I was using it for AC cosmetics

[deft cape]

unless they make it an optional configuration for assigning random players to mimic

[timber notch]

And the mask fade effect

Oh well

[deft cape]

cuz im 99% that's the issue

i could try asking the owner of the fork to make changes since they're active

i'll just leave an issue in their github for now

[timber notch]

In the meantime, I have a decision to make:

• have synced voices without cosmetics, and suit/voices are matched for turned players
• have synced voices and cosmetics work, but suit/voice mismatch for turned players
• have unsynced voices, but suit/voices are matched for turned players

[deft cape]

gonna quote you on that whenever someone asks about MEO

[lofty sorrel]

So if I have both the only thing that should be broken is which Masked the voice clips come from?

[deft cape]

yeah the voice/suit wouldn't match basically

[lofty sorrel]

Okay sick I can live with that

[deft cape]

in the meantime i've opened an issue here: https://github.com/HomelessGinger/MaskedEnemyOverhaul/issues/18

if either homelessginger or the owner of the fork makes it configurable that'd be nice

[cosmic token]

@deft cape not sure if this is legit report but I managed to drown on new Polaris map twice and twice I was converted to masked. This masked was stuck underwater and MaskedAIRevamp was going crazy with console errors. The question is - should I be turned to masked if I drown? Maybe there should be exception?
However if I think about it more, you can still drawn on flooded moon and masked would be probably functional so not sure if it is really a problem 🤔

[pulsar lotus]

with this mod if you die you can be turned to mask, the reason don't matter

maybe maskairevamp isn't supposed to be underwater for it to work idk

kinda wierd

[cosmic token]

yea I guess so, not really a Mirage problem in that case

[pulsar lotus]

Can be you never know :p sometimes wierd stuff happen when you put 2 mods together

[deft cape]

i can have it not spawn a masked enemy when a player drowns, but normally a drowned player can still spawn a masked enemy that works fine (like in the beginner map with pools of water around)

so not sure if that would be the proper fix yet

oh wait yeah you mentioned at the end of your message about how spanwed masked enemies in drowned areas can still exist fine

@cosmic token could you upload your logs? i just want to see what in MaskedAIRevamp is erroring

[cosmic token]

is it possible to find if I closed the game? If not I can send you screenshot next time it happens

[pulsar lotus]

yes

[cosmic token]

I mean it was custom moon with holes filled with water. Probably with no escape so it was spamming error because there was no available path for it? or maybe because of moon itself...

[pulsar lotus]

inside bepinex

you have the file LogOutput.log

[cosmic token]

indeed

[pulsar lotus]

that's the log

just link it here

[cosmic token]

unfortunately error is not there, It was overwritten when I restarted game probably 🙁

but there is still hope, maybe it shows in solo as well

[pulsar lotus]

yeah just link it if it happen again

or if you can reproduce

[cosmic token]

no luck, now it just spams this if I drown:
[Error : Unity Log] "CalculatePolygonPath" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.
[Error : Unity Log] "SetDestination" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.
[Error : Unity Log] "CalculatePolygonPath" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.

Last time it had specifically MaskedAIRevamp in error name. I might be able to reproduce this tomorrow probably.

[deft cape]

@cosmic token thanks, could you actually send your profile code as well

going to see if i can patch that issue out

[flat tiger]

Is the mod not compatible with masked ai revamp?

[deft cape]

from what it seems it's just some certain scenarios where if SpawnOnPlayerDeath spawns a masked enemy, if it spawns in places where the player falls off the map, it'll spam that log

going to see if i can fix that without completely removing drowned players from being able to use that spawn on player death mechanic

[flat tiger]

ok thanks

[fading sapphire]

Well that's our session done, after I got the spawning working correctly for Quantities it worked a charm, I even had the impostor team sitting in the ship having a little chat. Myself reminded me of the onehanded scrap at main 😂

[deft cape]

oh no issues at all? nicee

[cosmic token]

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[granite aspen]

Just played Mirage with peeps today, fantastic mod and very fun! Also noting cosmetics do work on Masked enemies with MoreCompany v1.8.1 (No MEO installed)

[deft cape]

happy to hear you liked it! cosmetics do indeed work on MoreCompany, just seems like AC cosmetics don't work according top people's reports

[deft cape]

v1.0.9 is released:

• Ship camera now spectates the correct masked enemy
• Recording deletion can now be configured in two ways:
  • DeleteRecordingsPerRound = true to delete recordings per-round
  • DeleteRecordingsPerRound = false to delete recordings per-game
• Recordings now automatically delete upon closing the game

i know some of you want the recording deletions to be more configurable than this but i'm just gonna leave it like this for now

it'll be much more configurable later on, i just want to work on other features for now

[fading tusk]

oh i was wondering why i have some recordings on my profile when i was troubleshooting

it was just a millisecond picked up by my microphone though

[deft cape]

you mean how they weren't getting deleted? yeah i kinda just forgot about that until now 😅

although in the future the main way to control how many recordings you want to keep will be a folder size limit

well probably at least

[remote iris]

Les go

[inner idol]

records gonna be deleted if game is closed incorrectly?

sometimes you press quit and game just spams with gigaton of errors and refuses to close

so you have to alt+f4

[remote iris]

Also i dont think you can switch cams with the handheld map so u can only spectate urself

[deft cape]

no clue on that, i'm just using the cleanup function that unity provides

alt+f4 by itself does work with it though

[potent hatch]

any setting to not hear yourself yet?

[remote iris]

Im pretty sure it does exist

I cant check right now

Also some ppl say its broken but the mod creator tested it

And it worked for him atleast

[inner idol]

yes, there is setting not to hear yourself in config

[potent hatch]

epic

[deft cape]

i believe it was only melon that ran into this issue

if anyone's not able to hear their mimicked voice while they're dead, lmk

but as vladiester mentioned, i tested this and it works for me so if it's bugged it might just be a mod incompatibility

[soft hollow]

I am

So mean

I'm gonna do it

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-guilty-gear-axl-axl-low-gif-26797213

[buoyant skiff]

Does everyone hear Ghost Girl mimicing voices, or only the haunted player?

[thin sonnet]

Which of these three mask related mods has incompatibility with Mirage?
It seems that each one presents problems when taken together with this

[stone trout]

does the mod conflict with the Skinwalkers mod?

[dawn cloud]

there shouldnt be, but there is no reason to use it with skin walkers unless you want to use it with modded creatures. Then just in skinwalkers config, disable all the vanilla enemies except for modded

[stone trout]

Wait wait, this supposedly works on all enemies? or only for mimics?

[dawn cloud]

mirage works for all vanilla enemies, no modded ones. So you should use skinwalkers for just the modded enemies

[stone trout]

hell nah, I thought mirage only worked with mimics

[dawn cloud]

is that for mirage or skinwalkers

[cosmic token]

mirage

[dawn cloud]

I would reccomend mirage over skinwalkers personally

[dawn cloud]

thx

[remote iris]

Actually they just added modded enemy support pretty sure

[dawn cloud]

yea read right above

[remote iris]

Ah the image just loaded

Im using mobile data rn internet aint too good

[thin sonnet]

Yesterday we had this problem, only one player saw the Mimic, and it only stained the screen red. Even if you have the LC_Masked_Fix mod

[remote iris]

I cant load the vis

Vid

Internet is too bad

[remote iris]

Also ur mod is fire

[thin sonnet]

Thx!

[dawn cloud]

thats so weird, must be some config mismatch with someone or something

[thin sonnet]

We share the code

[flat tiger]

Great! Would the config sync when it comes to deleting recordings?

[dawn cloud]

I have a question about mask spawning, do they also spawn naturally like masked enemy overhaul makes it?

[opaque crag]

hi

i sometimes don't hear the skinwalkers

as mask guys

my friends do

also, i sometimes hear random voices that are very quiet

(it cant be a mask guy because i am alone in big map)

[lofty sorrel]

That's configurable

[deft cape]

oops i forgot to push the fixed one onto thunderstore LOL

[deft cape]

forgot to mention, dress girl mimicking is bugged rn

if you want dress girl to mimic, use skinwalkers for the dress girl and mirage for whatever else

[buoyant skiff]

👍

[deft cape]

masked fix should be fully compatible, never tried takethatmaskoff before.
MEO is currently bugged with mirage and will cause the suit/voice to not match at times

[deft cape]

for now it does yeah, in the future ill give more control to each client

[deft cape]

im honestly not sure which mod is causing this conflict 😅

[deft cape]

nope it simply reenables vanilla spawns, originally i had mirage disable natural spawns in favor of spawnonplayerdeath (at 100%), which became opt-in later on

[deft cape]

are you using the skinwalkers mod as well?

[soft hollow]

@torpid hill sorry to ask since you’ve probably answered this 10000 times but using MEO fork, there is a compatibility config for Mirage, but this disables the mod touching masked at all, meaning you won’t get cosmetics with AC, right?

Is there any way to weave around this

[deft cape]

i took a look at the commit and it looks like it should still be applied

btw how does AC cosmetics work? i downloaded AC to test the cosmetics, but there's none by default

are they unlockables or something

[hollow garnet]

you need to download any cosmetics mod that use morecompany

[deft cape]

ah bet

[hollow garnet]

AC just disables morecompany on start

[deft cape]

y'all got any recommendations that use AC for cosmetics

i might just be braindead but the cosmetics i find are usually for that replacement api thing

[inner idol]

anything (almost) that use morecompany is compatible

[soft hollow]

I got a good list

Hold on I’m literally at work 💀

[opaque crag]

yes, but disabled mask

guy

would be cool if you made it for other mobs too

[fading tusk]

mirage still cant work with other mobs?

[opaque crag]

yy i didnt check

but i thought it was for mimic only

[fading tusk]

oh. i thougth it was bugged

[cosmic token]

Spookies_Cosmetics for example

it has morecompany as dependecy but you can uninstall it and it will still work with AC

[deft cape]

mirage does work with other mobs, ill update the README

[deft cape]

gotcha thx ill test with that

MoreCompany cosmetics alreafy worked for me on mirage, does AC screw that up or something

ill test it anyways in a bit

[stone trout]

@deft cape I have this problem too, what is causing this?

[deft cape]

does this happen with only mirage for you?
im not sure about mod incompatibilities myself

[pulsar lotus]

that happened to me without mirage

[stone trout]

yeah

[deft cape]

btw the reason your voices isnt synced is cuz you have skinwalkers enabled, mirage is a standalone mod

everyone has the mod downloaded? looks like a desync issue

[pulsar lotus]

invisible masked too lately ( still without mirage), can't pinpoint where it's coming from because can't reproduce easily

[stark rampart]

isnt it from morecompany?

[deft cape]

thats so weird, doesnt happen to me when i test by myself

[pulsar lotus]

i use biggerlobby

this bug appeared to me lately ( before using mirage) so idk

but it's not mirage

[stark rampart]

never happened to me

[soft hollow]

EquipmentCompany
ComedyAndTragedyMasks
Gridian_Cosmetics
BensCosmetics

Also I heard more company latest version broke cosmetics

[flat tiger]

Btw this mod is amazing!

[deft cape]

oh damn i guess ill have to test it after they fix it 😭

thanks for the list, i'll keep that so i can test with it later

[deft cape]

glad you liked it ❤️

[soft hollow]

I have yet to get this mod to work perfectly, probably cuz I want cosmetics and keep fucking with MEO

[fading tusk]

i disabled mostly everything from MEO

except the name and set Spawn to vanilla

the rest i enabled from Mirage

[deft cape]

i'll try the meo fork just to see if it works properly with the compatibility patch

[fading tusk]

not sure about MEOF

i still use MEO

[deft cape]

regular MEO causes the suit/mimicked voice to not match sometimes

so the compatibility patch should fix that, but i just gotta test to make sure

[fading tusk]

eventually you will devour MEO right?

as in you only need the custom suits and name

i already removed skinwalkers

i only want the same hearing thing really

[deft cape]

well originally i only had the mask texture and arms out animation removed cuz i wanted some defaults for mirage, since mirage was supposed to be for masked enemies

i might get custom cosmetics to work on mirage later, but if it works on the MEO fork then i won't really need to prioritize it

[fading tusk]

the morecompany cosmetics?

[deft cape]

morecompany already worked out of the box since they handle that themselves

[fading tusk]

how about reserve slots?

[deft cape]

not sure about that

[fading tusk]

i do use MaskedAIRevamp so they do pickup stuff

[deft cape]

i'm assuming you're using ReservedFlashlightSlot and the other one as well right

cuz from their readme, they support masked enemies out the box as well

[fading tusk]

yeah

also the custom reserved ones like boombox and key

im going to laugh if i see a masked picking up a boombox and play that jojo theme

ill go troll my friends one day. ill drop a boombox for them while playing that in loop

[opaque crag]

we have synced voices

for mask

mob

but I don't hear it

every other person does have synced mask

will you add synced voices for other mobs aswell?

[fading sapphire]

This is a vanilla issue, sometimes masked will be invisible https://youtube.com/shorts/LKCAOxXNIbo?si=DlEt_B8Nr8dE4UAm

[deft cape]

is it for when they're mimicking your voice?

[lament mica]

See if this helps,
swap MEO for MEOF
Set these MEOF config settings:
Remove Mask From Masked Enemy = false
Remove Zombie Arms = false
Dont Touch MaskedPlayerEnemy.mimickingPlayer = true

[thin sonnet]

I'll take a look

[lament mica]

yea make sure to delete the old MEO config first.

[opaque crag]

nope

my friend nr 1 (and 4) could hear friend nr 2 and 3

and I could only hear friend nr 1

mimic

and there was no nr 4 mimic

[pulsar lotus]

oh really ! thanks didn't know that

[fading tusk]

dang

they evolved to be invisible

[deft cape]

hmm that's weird, not really sure what the issue is yet until i have the time to play-test longer

[cosmic spire]

does the mod work with skinwalkers enabled too?

[inner idol]

it's a replacement

but better

[deft cape]

skinwalkers plays separate voices so it's recommended to not have it on

[inner idol]

tbh when i stumbled upon mod description first time i was unable to fully understand it's purpose - i thought it was something like masked enemy overhaul with separate voice

and in reality it can work as fully synced skinwalkers replacement

[deft cape]

yeah i need to change the description tbh

what would you recommend as a good description?

[inner idol]

Synced enemy voices as the main feature

[deft cape]

i guess the "mimic" part is what's misleading eh? since people think mimics = masked enemies

[inner idol]

I was thinking of it like zombie mod or something

cause it states that it respawn masked enemies when players die

like it's the main feature or something

[deft cape]

yeah it actually was that originally, but it's changed a lot since people asked for other features

ah you mean the main feature

i'll move that down the list

and have synced voices more up

[inner idol]

masked enemies feature is amazing too, if tamed

i personally prefer 10% chance and player should be alone

so it spawn masks from time to time, but not hordes

but it's 100% able to surprise

i had my friend walk straight to me, talking pretty realistic

until he ate my face

your mod replaces both skinwalkers and masked enemy overhaul for me

and works great

[opaque crag]

will you add voices for other mobs too?

[safe sundial]

mirage has voice mimicking for all creatures

if thats what you're asking

[lunar quest]

should I just delete masked enemy overhaul since I have this

[lofty sorrel]

Only thing MEO has over this right now is changing spawn rates and cosmetics with AC

[lament mica]

⤴️ Yep also disable these options for MEO if your using Mirage
Remove Mask From Masked Enemy = false
Remove Zombie Arms = false

[lunar quest]

Why?

Conflicts?

@lament mica

[lofty sorrel]

Last time I played with those false it forced them to show mask and arms even with them disabled by mirage

[lament mica]

Mirage does both already it can

[lofty sorrel]

Only reason I'm still using MEO rn is for the cosmetics, but I'm sure qwbarch will get round to that themselves at some point

[lunar quest]

I’m using for spawn rate

[gloomy crow]

@deft cape my mimic started playing SUPXR, 10/10 mod.

[deft cape]

it's already supportedl ike fireponk mentioned

[opaque crag]

ooh

so i delete skinwalker?

[deft cape]

also for this, make sure you're using the fork: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Coppertiel/MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork/

foy anyone doing what actibytes mentioned

regular MEO conflicts with mirage, but the fork doesn't (if you have those options set)

gonna have to mention this in my README

[deft cape]

the only feature that mirage doesn't have would be the skinwalkers + MaskedAIRevamp walkie-talkie voice mimic behaviour (at least from what i remember)

so if you don't need that then you don't need skinwalkers installed

[lofty sorrel]

MaskedAIRevamp not MEO^

[deft cape]

oh crap whoops, edit to fix it

[inner idol]

tbh, the only thing masked ai revamp ever did for me is spammed errors

never got it to work properly

[deft cape]

was it on an older version? i've heard it became more stable on the latest version. never tried it myself (yet) though

[lofty sorrel]

I'm also not super sure on the MEO settings for removing the mask and the arms, I think you might have to set them to true. I'll give it a test again later

[inner idol]

latest version i guess, last update was a while ago

[inner idol]

only thing MEO does differently is masked enemies from vents on any planet

but mirage zombie revival mechanic is pretty solid replacement imo

especially if you set it to 5-10% and only when player is alone

oh, and AC cosmetics i guess?

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah AC cosmetics. With AC you can set creatures to spawn on any planet so that's not a worry

Latest MaskedAIRevamp was like 2 weeks ago and it optimised a bunch of stuff, but the dev is focused on LC_Office more than it atm

[inner idol]

i think i used this one

masked enemy came into the ship and started running inside and outside again and again

and spammed gigatons of errors

[lofty sorrel]

Yeah I'm not surprised really, it's aiming for really complex ai behaviour with Zeekers' sticks and stones, I honestly doubt the mod will go much further unless there's changes to the game itself to make it easier

[deft cape]

seems to be a pretty unpopular opinion so i might still add a way to control the masked enemy's spawn rate, but with all the spawn control mods out there i might not as well

gonna try and fix the ghost girl bug today

and the issue with bees playing voiecs when EnableModdedEnemies is enabled

[inner idol]

oh yeah, my beloved "who the fuck are you talking to" beehives

they was repeating that phrase all over the map

making us laugh so hard

[lunar quest]

I would appreciate a spawn rate for your mod

[stone trout]

@deft cape I don't want to upset you, but is it possible that the problem is due to the MaskedAIRevamp mod? I mean the problem where you are basically killed by a mimic but you don't die.

Because apart from this mod, there are no other mods that can affect mimics like this.

[autumn glen]

something really funny happened w the zombie mechanic

idk if this is something you can disable but a friend of mine jumped off railing and died

and she was still revived and walked around at the bottom for the rest of the day lmao

i dont mind this btw- just thought it was a funny scenario

• none of us noticed until we saw the end screen and she wasn't "missing"

[deft cape]

yeah ill potentially add it later

[deft cape]

im not sure personally since i havent tried MaskedAiRevamp yet

[stone trout]

try it

[deft cape]

thats not intended but i spawn them right where players die so cant really change anything either way

but yeah probably not a big deal like you mentioned

[deft cape]

i mean later when i have time to yeah

[autumn glen]

yeah i thought so lmao

still really really funny

[deft cape]

unintended but makes for cool moments 😂

[dark talon]

I'm afraid TooManyEmotes' Masked feature is another thing that breaks in the Mirage + MEOF combo
I think it tries to perform an emote but just gets stuck in a pose for a while and then continues normally.

[autumn glen]

oh i dont have MEO but last time a zombie emoted he just did the "flex" emote but he just kinda snapped into the end of the pose

[dark talon]

btw is it normal for masked to occasionally look somewhat to the side and slightly up while walking around in 'roaming mode'?

Looks weird. I don't think a normal player could even move like that without a Controller.

[deft cape]

masked ai is indeed very non human like, which i think is what maskedairevamp tries to solve (although not too sure about the compatibility of the mod with mirage)

[deft cape]

does this work with regular meo?

[inner idol]

i wonder how easy it is to patch masked enemies so they spin less or no spin at all

right now it's a dead giveaway

i think i know why they was coded this way

many people used spinning as a signal for monitor guy to teleport player back

[deft cape]

maybe i could give the mimic iframes on spawn later on but im probably gonna not touch it for now

[deft cape]

does MaskedAIRevamp not remove that part? i was assuming a revamp mod would do that since as you said, it's a dead giveaway

i haven't looked at the AI code yet so i've got no clue on the complexity either

[inner idol]

it is, but as i said it was pretty broken when we tested, even with latest version

[deft cape]

ah

ai changes is part of my roadmap but it's not gonna be for a long time

[inner idol]

by the way, why EnablePenalty is a feature

it seems like something out of scope of this mod

what's the story

[deft cape]

originally mirage made masked enemies always spawn a player on death (there was no config for it)

and since the player corpse is always consumed, you'd always lose a ton of credits with the mod

i plan on removing that from mirage in a major update, and if anyone wants to have that feature, they'll have to download a separate mod

[inner idol]

got it

[maiden peak]

I had a weird error where the nameplates on masked appeared to be massive

like bigger than the ship

they'd appear instantly at full brightness then fade in about 1 second

I was using TMLC + Easyidle's Quality Moons (with AdvancedCompany and GeneralImprovements on the latest version, + Skinwalker replaced with this mod)

[deft cape]

shouldn't be caused by mirage since i don't do anything with the nameplates as of yet

[timber notch]

So using the fork doesn’t have any issues and allows for AC cosmetics?

[pale timber]

is this mod compatible with masked enemy overhaul and skinwalker?

[deft cape]

i haven't tested it yet to confirm, kinda forgot to earlier and i'm trying to fix a bug rn

[timber notch]

Skinwalker’s not needed if you have this

[deft cape]

should be compatible with MEO fork (with the mirage compatibility config set), using skinwalkers will cause you to still hear unsynced voices since it's a separate mod

[timber notch]

Except for ghost girl, which should be fixed in the next update iirx

[deft cape]

yeah i'm working on exactly that rn

[pale timber]

oh ok thanks

[timber notch]

No rush lol, I won’t even be playing tonight

[pale timber]

btw awesome mod

[timber notch]

Otherwise I’d test it for you

[deft cape]

yeah i'll test sometime tomorrow

nah all good

[deft cape]

❤️

[fading sapphire]

I play with masked AI rework and haven't ran into this, I did hear that masked spawned from players dying has a problem where they don't pathfind

[fading sapphire]

Yep it removes the spinning player on the radar

[dark talon]

it was definitely working in the past with MEO (and skinwalkers). I haven't tested the current state of it.

[errant sundial]

suggestion: masked can pick up and use dropped walkies

communication is such a big part of the game and interferring with it to spew random voice lines would cause a lot of chaos

I could see it creating major issues by pure chance relaying the wrong info

especially if it mimics whoever dropped the walkie

and maybe don't transmit voices to the person who it's mimicking on radio

or people will just go "that wasn't me"

[fading sapphire]

This is already a feature of MaskedAIRework, although it's currently called "skinwalkers mod compatibility", once Piggy returns to that mod i'm sure it can be set up for Mirage too

[errant sundial]

do they pick up and use walkies or just audible through walkies?

[fading sapphire]

Yeah they play lines through the walkies and walk about with them, in general they pick up any item they come into contact with

Including shovels

That one threw me off first time I saw it

[opaque crag]

wait so

does it mimic every mob

or no

the mod

Mirage is a mod that gives masked enemies the ability to mimic a player's voice

[autumn glen]

you can set it so other mobs can also immitate player voices in the config

[silent sleet]

if you set mirage natural spawn to true, does it override the meo masked spawning

[vast tapir]

I'm not sure if it's simply a config issue with MEO by my own doing but I had multiple instances of masked getting bugged in the ship and staying even in orbit and later rounds

Doubly annoying when you stay in the ship and they keep taking the voicelines being said in the round and repeating them in the ship haha

[dark talon]

@deft cape potatoepet just released this https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/wiki/API
might help with ac cosmetics

[dawn cloud]

Can i use this with masked enemy overhaul for there spawning mechanics?

[dark talon]

You could but it would break stuff. Use masked enemy overhaul fork instead

[pulsar lotus]

@deft cape Played with mirage today, was working well for what i've seen !

[deft cape]

yep gonna try to fix this

[deft cape]

yeah it should've worked prior to the update where i rewrote the spawn/mimicking logic

[deft cape]

might add this later on but not anytime soon

[deft cape]

you can enable it for every mob yeah

[deft cape]

nope you actually need to set it to true for meo's to work (i recommend using the meo fork for the compatibility config option btw)

[deft cape]

masked enemies not dying shouldnt be caused by MEO, not sure what's keeping them alive

[deft cape]

thanks ill take a look when im on my pc later

[deft cape]

thanks for the feedback, good to know theres no huge bugs!

[hoary gazelle]

Would it be possible to have the masked strictly use voice lines that match the suit of the player? And i can second kams message, the mod works wonderfully!

[deft cape]

the mod already does that yeah

if you use MEO it could mess with that so you'd need the MEO fork with the compatibility config enabled

[hoary gazelle]

Oh thank you!!

[flat tiger]

Does everyone need the meo fork for it to work? Your mod already has everything it has except the increased spawn rate for masks, which is what I would use the fork for.

[timber notch]

Advanced Company cosmetics and fading masks

[flat tiger]

My group aren’t huge fans of advanced company since it can make things complicated, despite having many features

[timber notch]

If you don’t care for AC cosmetics, then it’s just the fading masks

But using the fork is recommended atm as it fixes a bug

[flat tiger]

Which bug does it fix?

[timber notch]

It’s an issue that increases enemy spawns if you land on the same moon repeatedly

[flat tiger]

Ah ok

[timber notch]

And fixes compatibility issues

as there’s some visual conflict issues

[flat tiger]

Ok, thanks

[timber notch]

np!

[soft hollow]

Hey, is anyone else’s death penalty working?

And yes I have the config for it enabled

[deft cape]

if all you're looking for is spawn control, it's probably better to look for a mod that does only that.
i recommended MEO fork because it also supports AC cosmteics

[deft cape]

the post-credit penalty screen still shows up, but it shouldn't affect your credits

[soft hollow]

The problem I’m having is that let’s say someone dies womp womp

We never get their body

At the end screen it says

Body lost -20%

-200 credits or something

But then it never actually drains our money

[deft cape]

yeah i never looked into getting those visuals yet (i probably never will to be fair)

[soft hollow]

Even when playing solo and I kill myself it says -20% and doesn’t take my money

[deft cape]

wait so this is set to true and it's still not taking your money?

[soft hollow]

Yes

[deft cape]

ok thats a bug for sure

[lunar quest]

I tried getting rid of the visual by using a death penalty mod but it doesn’t change it

[deft cape]

looking at my code i don't see why there should be an issue but

i'll test it later

[flat tiger]

Ok cool, thank you!

[deft cape]

v1.0.10 is released:

• Fixed dress girl issues
  • Mimicking voice is now muted while the dress girl is invisible
  • In singleplayer, dress girl will always mimic the local player's voice
  • In multiplayer, dress girl will always mimic the non-local player's voice
• Bees no longer mimic voices when EnableModdedEnemies is enabled.
• Add configuration option to mimic voices for locust swarms
• Fixed navmesh error spam when an enemy tries to calculate its path
• Recordings deletion can now be ignored (not synced to all players)

[deft cape]

couldn't replicate this, credits penalty works for me when it's enabled in the config

probably another mod is doing it as well is my guess

[soft hollow]

Thank u for the info og

[soft hollow]

I am testing and having some syncing issues, where I'm dead and spectating and can hear the masked talking but the player can't hear the masked talking

In fact they didnt have a skin for the person i was playing with

[deft cape]

is this with only mirage installed? do you have MEO?

[soft hollow]

I had MEO Fork but with compat mode, Im doing a test rn without MEO

[deft cape]

oh yeah that reminds me i still need to test meo fork myself to make sure it's completely compatible, whoops

[gentle steeple]

Got this error today, is this being caused by Mirage?

[deft cape]

it shouldn't be. mirage doesn't touch HUDManager except for disabling the post-game credits penalty (if it's enabled)

out of curiosity though is this on 1.0.10?

[gentle steeple]

yeah this is using most recent version

I only thought it might be Mirage because it happens right after "start voice tracking"

maybe another mod?

[remote iris]

do you have any other mod you suspect that alters some hud features and barch what does hudmanager do since it can help him find the causer

[deft cape]

from a quick look it seems to be anything related to the UI itself

[gentle steeple]

I was able to pinpoint the issue, not Mirage!

[deft cape]

ah nice, which mod was it? just curious

[remote iris]

good for barch lol he been bug fixing literary everyday

[deft cape]

😂 😂

yeah after i fix the voice filters it's about time i start working on the feature i've been trying to find the time to work on

[stark rampart]

so now its 1:1

[remote iris]

it seems your really excited to work on it lol. since your hiding it from us

[deft cape]

that's the goal yeah

[stark rampart]

After I got into this discord I started discovering a lot of underrated mods. Mirage is definetly one

[deft cape]

yep indeed, but the only reason why i haven't announced it yet is because i'm not sure if the idea can be executed properly, so once a baseline is established, i'll probably announce what it is

[deft cape]

thanks, i appreciate the kind words 😄

[soft hollow]

Ok so,

I tested again

without MEO

and they saw the masked skin

but didnt hear the voice

[deft cape]

no errors?

are you on mirage v1.0.10

i added some logs to make it easier to debug who gets mimicked

could you send me those logs if you're on v1.0.10

also send your profile code as well, although no guarantees i'll be able to figure anything out if there's too many mods

[soft hollow]

I can send you my log, person I was playing with who couldnt hear just went to sleep

And then my profile code: 018d9c03-0e9a-19a9-fefa-115430ca24ef

Did you just update

damn

[deft cape]

sent a msg but deleted cuz im dumb

[soft hollow]

This was 1.0.9

wait no

Yea this is 1.0.10

[deft cape]

were you testing with only 1 masked enemy

i only see this [Info :qwbarch.Mirage] MaskedPlayerEnemy(-882586) - Mimicking player #0

gonna brb and take a look at this again in an hour, making some food

[soft hollow]

we had one that spawned this run

k

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1UOmgPLTP9Ulyu/d1337FVp8i1T?invite=cr-MSx1YnosMTQ3NDQxNTIs

[timber notch]

Maybe I’ll wait to update my modpack then lol

[remote iris]

later when your friend wakes up maybe try making your friend the host sometimes i heard only host hearing things and stuff issues

barch has to clarify if he fixed those

[soft hollow]

I got

tha log

Friend

[buoyant skiff]

Guess I no longer need Skinwalkers for Ghost Girl?

[timber notch]

Nope!

/Yep

English is weird

You don’t need Skinwalkers is what I’m saying lol

[deft cape]

those issues dont happen when i test mirage by myself so im not too sure yet

[remote iris]

it would be nice if you could use lesslogs im pretty sure it can be used to show only errors and fatal logs

[remote iris]

barch might understand something

[soft hollow]

Oh shit

[remote iris]

i cant understand anything lol

[soft hollow]

I was also about to try playing on lan to figure out if there really is a host client issue

so I go to get AutoStart to do it

And I looked at the creator of the mod's name and It looked familiar

Dawg thats you!

[remote iris]

yeah lol it is him

[soft hollow]

lmao

[deft cape]

looool

yeah as soon as im done eating ill try to debug a bit

got time today so ill try and cut down some mods to see if a specific one is conflicting

[soft hollow]

Oh shit

One fun thing

MEO Fork is no longer needed

I think

well for AC cosmetics at least

It just clicked but while testing with just Mirage I saw cosmetics on the masked enemies without MEO fork enabled

[cosmic token]

really? I mean yesterday was some AC update so maybe they added it? 🤔

[fading tusk]

how about without AC?

[soft hollow]

😧

idk

[deft cape]

alright gonna take a look at that profile code rn

[soft hollow]

Did a LAN test

Client didnt hear jack shit

unless I'm a peak idiot

[deft cape]

i'm having trouble even joining on a second client for whatever reason

so still in the process of trying to load into the game LOL

[remote iris]

sometimes that happens to me the host has to restart his game

and it works

atleast for me

[soft hollow]

yea that shit happens time from time

[deft cape]

restarted a couple times and it's still the same for me

hmmm

welp this time it's a slightly different error

the reason you're not hearing anything on clients might have to do with this actually

the fact that network prefabs aren't loading properly

if mirage's network prefabs don't get registered for the clients, the host can't communicate with the clients

@soft hollow don't really have a solution since i failed at the first step (getting into the game), sorry 😓

[acoustic fox]

this is weird 👀

[deft cape]

oh wtf

when does that happen for you?

[acoustic fox]

I don't particularly know but it just happened

I will send my Player.log after this day ends

[deft cape]

sounds good, gonna see if i can reproduce the error

[soft hollow]

damn

time to bug test why you cant launch the game in order to preform the bug test u wanted

I love debugging mods its so fun and quirky

[deft cape]

i mean not being able to launch the game is only an issue for me when using your profile code

running it normally is fine for me

[deft cape]

the pain point of lethal company mods 😭

[soft hollow]

Let me give you my updated one

[deft cape]

aight

[soft hollow]

018d9c66-8820-563a-d40a-897c149329ce

I, a sane person, decided to do a mod clensing and reconfiging this lovely night

[deft cape]

is the mod bugged other than that console spam for you

[soft hollow]

and thats where I tried testing to see if Mirage was actually working for me and my crew

oh shit i forgot I had my HD company set at 1440p max settings

watch out

[deft cape]

all good

[soft hollow]

Idk how strong ur pc is

[deft cape]

i'll set it back to 1080

[soft hollow]

👍🏿

[fading tusk]

wait logging in with mirage on breaks the the main menu?

[deft cape]

if you're talking about the screenshot i sent, that's an conflict with mi6k's modpack

[acoustic fox]

it works fine

@deft cape here ya go

[deft cape]

thanks ill take a look after trying to debug mi6k's modpack for a bit

[fading tusk]

ohh

i just redownloaded every mod i had and didnt encounter that prefab thing

im flat 200mods

MoreCompany 100.0.0?

[acoustic fox]

that's a dll stub from AdvancedCompany

[fading tusk]

ohh

[acoustic fox]

because MoreCompany was overriding AC's dummy dll of MC

so it was causing issues

[deft cape]

i'm actually getting this error while testing mi6k's modpack. do you have "don't touch me" installed?

[acoustic fox]

Yes

[tepid lava]

I don’t get those errors with “don’t touch me”

[acoustic fox]

I did not get these errors from before 1.0.10

[deft cape]

i'm probably going to have to just disable that specific error message next update, just assumed all enemies have a navmesh agent

@soft hollow iirc you had the same issue before already right? which version did you start to not be able to hear anything on the clients?

ah fuck

guys don't update your modpacks to 1.0.10

i think it actually is a problem with mirage right now...

@soft hollow mb, i legit didn't think this would be an issue but mirage by itself seems to only work on the host like you mentioned

[soft hollow]

Damn

Yea the issue started with 1.0.10

So do I rollback?

[deft cape]

for some reason i thought i remember seeing you having this issue before, which is why i thought it was a mod specific issue

yeah rollback to 1.0.9 for now

im gonna release a hotfix soon

i know the reason

[soft hollow]

Most of my issues before were just me trying to get cosmetics to work

[deft cape]

im so sorry you had to waste all that time debugging it btw 😭

when it turns out to be on my end

[soft hollow]

But seeing as MEO is not needed for that I can stop worrying about the balancing on that part and just focus on mirage

No it’s all good

This is a good thing

This is like why I do my weekly “mod rebalancing”, I tend to catch bugs and report them right away

[deft cape]

sounds like a ton of work having to maintain a modpack

i'll release a hotfix within a couple hours most likely, just trying to figure out what to do instead of my current patch

since the issue has to do with me fixing the meshed renderer console spam

if i just get rid of it completely right now, any enemies that spawn where they shouldn't (i.e. a player falls into the abyss) will go back to spamming the console

[cosmic token]

no AC cosmetics for me

[remote iris]

ive heard before hat cosmetics seem to not work (not sure if this is true)

[cosmic token]

only hat? i put just hat on to test it 😄

but that is the most important part anyway, so basically it is not working

[remote iris]

yeah thats true

i mean my group dont even use hats

[deft cape]

nvm what i thought was the issue isn't the issue. might take a bit to figure it out

if i can't find a lead in an hour im just gonna upload v1.0.9 as v1.1.11

just so players who update don't get screwed by it

[remote iris]

barch i can test rn if u need and i also will play with my group today in a bit

we can test by then

[deft cape]

thanks i appreciate it

i'll ping u when i need help testing, still looking for the issue

[stark crown]

Hello, @deft cape, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[deft cape]

alright it's fixed

[remote iris]

so what was the issue?

[deft cape]

actually did end up being the issue i thought it was earlier, so basically in v1.0.10 i made the voice filter do nothing if the enemy isn't on a nav mesh (which gets rid of that console spam)

the problem is the nav mesh agent is enabled only on the host

so basically i just revert that specific "fix" because it actually ended up breaking things instead

and i'll just have to figure out a different way to fix that specific issue

[remote iris]

kk

[deft cape]

going to just upload it straight to thunderstore rn since it's working locally for me anyways

actually

@remote iris mind if i send it to you rq anyways? just to double check if that's alright with you

[remote iris]

i dont mind

[deft cape]

tyty ill dm you

[deft cape]

v1.0.11 is released.

• Hotfix: Fixed an issue from v1.0.10 that caused non-host players to not hear any voices.

Since this is a hotfix patch, I'll list the v1.0.10 changes as well (cross-out means the change has been reverted due to the hotfix):

• Fixed dress girl issues
  • Mimicking voice is now muted while the dress girl is invisible
  • In singleplayer, dress girl will always mimic the local player's voice
  • In multiplayer, dress girl will always mimic the non-local player's voice
• Bees no longer mimic voices when EnableModdedEnemies is enabled.
• Add configuration option to mimic voices for locust swarms
• Fixed navmesh error spam when an enemy tries to calculate its path
• Recordings deletion can now be ignored (not synced to all players)

Thanks to @remote iris for helping me test to make sure the hotfix works

@soft hollow pinging you just in case, since you've been the issue for awhile

[remote iris]

ay thanks foralways crediting shit even though i dont do much lol

[deft cape]

nah i appreciate any help

well im just glad i got a hotfix out so i can still try and sleep earlier today

ill just pray nothing is broken after the hotfix

[remote iris]

sleep is more important dawg

go to sleep NOW

[deft cape]

yeee soon™️

[fading tusk]

btw

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AudioKnight/StarlancerAIFix/

this will not affect anything to the mask's behaviour and pathing right?

oh wait wrong channel

tho might as well ask if mirage has any changes from this

[deft cape]

it only affects baboon birds from what it looks like

either way it shouldn't conflict with mirage at all

[fading tusk]

oh nice

kinda just read it and its for interior and exterior AI stuff. since the mask kinda roams around on both inside and outside. i ended up asking

[deft cape]

maybe it's got more planned, but i looked at the decompiled source and there's only one tiny patch that only affects baboon hawks

[waxen basin]

I need to ask, is MaskedEnemyOverhaul going to conflict with your mod?

It has a similar setting of removing masks on masked enemies as well

[deft cape]

MEO causes the suit/voice to not match. If you want MEO, use the fork and enable the compatibility patch for mirage

haven't personally tested the compatibility option yet but that should be fine

(gonna finally test it tomorrow if i remember to)

[fading tusk]

the spoon doesnt work. so you need to use the fork

[waxen basin]

I... have no idea what a fork means

[deft cape]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Coppertiel/MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork/

it's this

[waxen basin]

Ohhh I'll look into it then, thanks!

[fading tusk]

ahahaa

[deft cape]

not 100% if the fork (with the compatibility config) works flawlessly with mirage though but it should be fine

[waxen basin]

Well chances are better than guaranteed fails lol. I'll take it~

[fading tusk]

if fork doesnt work. might as well bring a knife

we can roast the masked on a skewer and put them on a grill

i havent tested the fork

kinda took time redownloaded all the mods i was using

it was already 5:30am in the morning when i finished

took a whole 6 hours to redownload everything and reconfig everything

plus the white screen of death from r2modman was annoying as heck

[deft cape]

wtf 6 hours to download

[fading tusk]

clean refresh

that includes the mod's config that conflicts with others

and realised that im missing some mods i used to have and might have accidentally unintalled

there were some old files that stayed after uninstalls when copying the profile so many times

i just need to remember which mod i was using to change how long the day and night cycles stay

since i remembered changing it to 25 minutes for day

[acoustic fox]

wrong thread mb

[soft hollow]

so weird

[soft hollow]

I remember Playing without MEO and seeing my cosmetics on the masked-

Unless

Wacky theory I have no clue why this would be

Clients can see the cosmetics on the masked and not hosts

But that’s so stupid it can’t be true

[alpine sleet]

Do you still need to use push-to-talk in order to use this mod?

[soft hollow]

No

[alpine sleet]

Awesome

Should I delete Skinwalkers before trying this, or are they compatable?

[soft hollow]

You should delete skinwalkers

Because this mod covers what skinwalkers does

[alpine sleet]

Alright, thanks for the help man 👍 Can't wait to see how it is

[soft hollow]

hopefully it’s working well rn 👀

[alpine sleet]

Will report back, waiting for some people to test it with

[remote iris]

i did test with him it worked wel

well*

by him i mean barch btw

[soft hollow]

Nice, both with client and host?

[remote iris]

ye

[soft hollow]

Dope

[soft hollow]

If you could, could you see if AC cosmetics work with mirage, and do a test with a host and a client because I SWEAR I saw cosmetics when testing last night

[fading tusk]

are you wearing the cosmetics?

most likely they will just copy whatever you are wearing. not sure about the attached cosmetics tho

[cosmic token]

I wish 😄

[dark talon]

I volunteer for testing AC cosmetics. just @ me

[soft hollow]

I had AC cosmetics on, specifically the Equipment Company cosmetics

And I 100% believe I saw those on the masked I played with

[remote iris]

Sorry im visiting rn

Cant do it rn

When i come back in like 30 mins

I will

[deft brook]

I did a test and they don't wear AC cosmetics

[stone trout]

@deft cape this is a host-only problem, by the way

[deft brook]

I'm currently trying to figure out the issue. Dogs also don't kill me...

On it's own I die so it has to be a mod conflict

[soft hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-gif-26570365

No way i was genuinely tweakin

[deft brook]

Yeah it's a shame. Especially because I think Masked Enemy Overhaul used cosmetics

[deft cape]

MoreCompany works out of the box, i guess AC just doesnt support it by itself

for cosmetics i mean

[deft brook]

Which doesn't surprise me in the slightest

I love a lot of things AC does but it does have it's fair share of problems

[deft cape]

im really not sure what could be the issue yet since it doesn't happen when running mirage by itself

[deft brook]

It's nothing to do with Mirage. It was happening before I even installed the mod. I'm currently trying to figure out what's causing it

[deft cape]

ah gotcha if you find the reason, maybe nekiyman is affected by the same thing

[deft brook]

Can you show me your modlist? If I can see what we have in common it'll make this process so much quicker. I have a LOT of mods

[lofty sorrel]

Is this error anything to worry about?
ObjectDisposedException: The CancellationTokenSource has been disposed.

The full error

[deft cape]

whats the mimicking delay set to?

[lofty sorrel]

3000-9000 Masked, 7500-12500 Other

[deft cape]

it might be caused by the masked min delay being too low so it's cutting off the other audio, but tbh 3k still seems like it's enough