Mirage

[slim basin]

thats what i am asking, would the masked use both mods to make voices or just one

im sure there can be fixed to mirage overrides the masked that spawned from a dead player

[safe sundial]

probably both mods

and some voice lines wouldnt be synced (from skinwalkers)

so its just not a good idea

and why would you even want skinwalkers

this mod now seemingly does what skinwalkers does now

[jagged bane]

I mean it still doesn't make sense what you are asking. Neither mods creates unique masked. so if you asking if this will have masked that aren't synced and also masked that are synced, then the answer is no.

[slim basin]

well yeah i mean he posted the changelog after i asked my question

i think skinwalkers still makes voices for modded enemies, this doesnt do that yet

[jagged bane]

Like fireponk said, this mod is quite better than Skin walkers. Although it's a steep fight for people to even notice it's potential. I had already removed skin walkers when this mod was introduced because why would a spider or a bug have voices imo.

v1.0.4 is now out:

• Support voice mimicking on all vanilla enemies.
• Add configuration option for mask texture and arms-out animation (for masked enemies).
• Dead enemies no longer mimic voices.

just scroll a little up dude

[slim basin]

for what?

[jagged bane]

NVM, I apologize

[slim basin]

no wrries

so it makes sense if you want modded enemies to use voices you can still use skinwalkers

[safe sundial]

yeah but isnt it just ALL modded creatures or none

[slim basin]

yeah

[safe sundial]

yeah thats not very useful

[slim basin]

useful enough

[safe sundial]

unless you just like the mimicked voices being more of a gag

instead of something to trick you

[slim basin]

just to make my team more paranoid than usual

[safe sundial]

I dont think that will make them paranoid

but i dont know your team

[slim basin]

you overestimate my team

[jagged bane]

As for modded enemies. I don't see that happening anytime soon that is, maybe the op could clarify on this, but it seems to be more work than it's worth.

[safe sundial]

well if you want to just use skinwalkers and only use the modded enemies feature

since all vanilla creatures are in mirage

if you plan to use mirage anyways

[slim basin]

yeah thats at least what i setup for next time we play

i appreciate the discussion

[lilac saffron]

im not sure if its a bug or a feature but i can hear the ghost girl thats haunting my friend mimicking voices

and dying to mines still kills the revived corpses

atleast the death voice bug is gone now

yes i can confirm

[fathom tapir]

Any major bugs I should know about before swapping over to this?

[lilac saffron]

op do you have any roadmap for the mod

[abstract valve]

Did anyone try maskedairevamp with mirage and confirm whether they use walkie talkies or not?

[toxic pier]

would they even be able to transmit over the walkie talkies? i noticed that when they talk they dont alert the dogs near them

[dawn cloud]

Does it still work with push to talk only

Also can monsters still use skinwalkers

[dawn cloud]

Lmk how it goes

Brother

[deft cape]

ah i guess it's not compatible afterall rip, won't be fixing it anytime soon though sadly

it'll choose a specific person for as long as the monster is alive (at least it should, if it doesn't then it's a bug from a lack of testing)

you should disable the features from MEO that this mod includes. if you want to use MEO for spawn control for example, you'd want to set EnableNaturalSpawn in the mirage config to allow MEO's spawn changes to take place

[dawn cloud]

What if meo makes this work with advanced company

[deft cape]

i could add that soon if you want. sorry for not specifying, just thought autumnis had a proper response already, but basically skinwalkers and mirage plays voices separately, so you'd only want one or the other (for the specific monsters you pick)

edit: nevermind gonna add this later actually, for now you can just enable mirage for natural spawning enemies, and then use skinwalkers for custom modded enemies.
just an FYI, if you enable voices for the same type of enemy on mirage and skinwalkers, you'll hear voices from both mods

[deft cape]

well readek mentioned that even voices don't work so mirage just seems fundementally broken with AC

[deft cape]

i agree that's what i think, but i might as well add the option for now to let people do what they want, i'll give proper support later where you'll be able to choose any monster (whether it's vanilla or not) and selectively enable/disable them
edit: nevermind i'll add support for custom enemies later, i'd rather just work on my new features tbh

[deft cape]

it'll be simple so i might as well add it as a configurable option

[deft cape]

that's a bug, i forgot she's invisible to people that's not haunted, so i'll try to fix that tonight
edit: nevermind actually i'm just gonna add this to my TODO and work on other features for now, you'll have to use skinwalkers specifically for the ghost girl for now, sorry 😭

[deft cape]

i'm guessing this is because of the masked enemy dying as soon as it spawns because of the explosion, i could try and make it invisible for a tiny bit after spawn, but i probably won't touch it for now

[deft cape]

it's very unlikely it'll work since walkie talkies probably runs different functions

[deft cape]

voice activity is supported now

[deft cape]

you can, but all vanilla enemies support voice playback now so there's not much of a point to use it, unless you have modded enemies

also sorry for the late replies, wasn't home till now

[cosmic token]

I tried this mod solo today with AC and MEO and after few tweaks it worked for me without problem. Not sure about multiplayer though.

[deft cape]

also just remembered something i was gonna fix but forgot to do, currently if a masked enemy is hiding on the ship it'll keep talking, i'm gonna disable that behaviour

[deft cape]

ah good to know, perhaps it's some other mod conflicts then

[cosmic token]

I just had to turn off hide mask and hide arms option in your config and let MEO manage it. About voice, I didn't observe any problem, even manticoils talked by my voice 😅

[heavy prism]

i didn't have any issues with this mod when using it with AC and #1190848624402386985 in my modpack

[deft cape]

gotcha thanks y'all, @dawn cloud it's probably one of your other mods conflicting somehow then

[dawn cloud]

All good thanks

Hopefully we can find a fix for AC

[dawn cloud]

Huh

I think u replied to the wrong person

[deft cape]

wait i responded to the wrong person indeed LMFAO

my bad

it's probably one of your other mods conflicting with mirage, forgy and k are able to play with AC and mirage

[warm notch]

this is for spawned masks, not masks spawned after death (i didnt enable them), me and my friends were simply looking for a replacement for skinwalkers/maskedenemyoverhaul (which we disabled for these testings)
since having a mask spawn is pretty hard we went to the custom moon Atlas Abyss which has lots of mask spawns, and thats when i took the screenshot

[remote iris]

For me everything works except the cosmetics so idk

[wispy frost]

Would be nice if Mirage also supported modded enemies :3

Had a lot of fun with it so far

[deft cape]

damn, anything with AC will have to be fixed later on then

[deft cape]

glad you like it! i'm just gonna focus on my new features for now so support for modded enemies will have to come later

[wispy frost]

No problem ^^

I'm looking forward to the new updates 🙂

[dawn cloud]

So this mod complely replaces skiinwalkers and masked enemy overhaul

[wispy frost]

More or less, yes 🙂

The only thing missing for me is the name tag above the masked

[deft cape]

i'll add that to my TODO list

[toxic pier]

is there any plans on making it so that when the maskeds talk they actually alert the dogs?

[deft cape]

not entirely sure what i want for that yet, cuz if dogs attack the masked enemies they'll be gone pretty fast during the night

[toxic pier]

that's fair

i think it'd be a fun thing to be configurable atleast

[deft cape]

true, although i would have to dig into how dogs "detect" sound for its behaviour, so it's gonna be pretty low priority for me

i'll add that to my list of todos as well 😂

[toxic pier]

awesome

[fading tusk]

does this mod work with MaskedAIRevamp and MaskedOverhaul?

toomanyemotes make the mask emote too. so does any of those affect the mod?

[remote iris]

Im pretty sure they work except the cosmetics might have some problems

[fading tusk]

the main camo is the suits so...

it also affects custom suits?

[remote iris]

Not anymore

It works with voice activity aswell now

[remote iris]

It works with custom suits

Just the cosmetics of advanced company

Not sure about more company

[fading tusk]

i was about to say

ill try it another time i guess

[steep shale]

does hte new update make masked enemy overhau lnot work?

[deft cape]

thanks for helping answer questions vladiester ❤️
cosmetics from more company works, at least last time i tested it

[deft cape]

what do you have from masked enemy overhaul enabled?

just wanna know what worked before the update and what doesn't work after the update

[steep shale]

I have base masked overhaul

i'm just asking if there is conflicts

[deft cape]

there shouldn't be any changes since the latest update that would break it

i'd just recommend disabling whatever features from MEO that overlaps with mirage

or maybe others who use both mods can recommend some settings

[fading tusk]

meo?

[deft cape]

masked enemy overhaul

just lazy to type the whole thing

[fading tusk]

was thinking of Mayo

anyways

[remote iris]

np found any progress in that issue that players can hear mimics inside the facility/inside? im pretty sure the facility/inside is under the map/outside so maybe you can add the a distance limit for how far the voice reaches

[fading tusk]

what are the conflicting configs that MEO has with this mod tho?

[deft cape]

haven't looked yet since i'm focusing on other major features right now, although i have an idea of what to do to fix it in my head

most changes i from now on will likely have to be in the next major version that'll take awhile for me to release since i'm rewriting a bunch of stuff as well

[deft cape]

can't really answer that myself since i haven't used MEO with mirage, sorry

[remote iris]

it caused my friend to become insane lol he kept hearing us even though we were inside the facility

[remote iris]

kk

[remote iris]

for me i havn't had any problems

even maskedaioverhaul works

[deft cape]

😭 i forgot to even write down this issue so i'll add it to my TODO as well

[remote iris]

the ai features work except the walkie talkie feature that the devoloper of the maskedaioverhaul has to add themselves

[fading tusk]

it should work while having Ghostcodes too right?

[remote iris]

i think it will

i havn't tried out ghostcodes

[fading tusk]

well ill try my best stress testing this

with my current 160mods

[remote iris]

💀

you have 60 more mods than me

[fading tusk]

i used to have 200 but i removed them

replaced a lot of mods

cuz some are broken

[remote iris]

bro my game already takes like 2 mins to load how long did yours take with 200 mods

[fading tusk]

examples of broken would be ModelReplacementAPI based suits

[remote iris]

ye non of them worked for me

[fading tusk]

you will get desync

like that THICC mod

use that

pluse MoreCompany cosmetics

and do emotes from TooManyEmotes while having items on your slots

it will make your character broken

[remote iris]

i cant even imagine that 💀

[fading tusk]

tho if i remove ModelReplacementAPI. you cant see yourself on the internal monitor that GeneralImprovements have

nor see others

[bitter harness]

well, if you're already going down the route of implementing features that overlap with meo, then

• Show Masked Usernames
• Reveal Mask When Attacking
  are all pretty cool. It's just a bit confusing using the two mods together at the moment.

Also, just to be sure. This mod is intended to be used INSTEAD of skinwalker mod and not WITH it, right?

And last thing: LethalConfig support would be highly appreciated. It automatically pulls in most mods for me, but not Mirage for some reason. This might be a client side problem for me though, so I'll try again tomorrow.

Thanks for the work that you do. Synced skinwalker is hype

[remote iris]

Idk but lethalconfig worked for me

And yes instead

Actually

It was made for a different reason

[deft cape]

perhaps i'll implement those as well later on, but probably not anytime soon (the meo features)

Also, just to be sure. This mod is intended to be used INSTEAD of skinwalker mod and not WITH it, right?
yep, unless you want to have voices for voices for custom enemies, since i haven't added that yet

[remote iris]

People just use it instead pretty sure

[deft cape]

yep

[rain mountain]

any update on the quality of the voice clips?

[deft cape]

i could try lowering the bitrate, but if that doesn't work i'm not sure of a fix i could do in the meantime

not entirely sure if it's the bitrate or if it's from some sort of audio filter

[rain mountain]

i think it might be the bitrate, but even if it isn't, lowering the bitrate would certainly make it a bit more convincing

[deft cape]

do you mind helping me test the bitrate change actually? i've never noticed the quality difference so testing it myself would be pretty useless

if you're ok with that can i dm you?

[rain mountain]

i'm in bed right now lol, but i might have some time tomorrow

[deft cape]

ah all good lmk when ur free

[remote iris]

i can rn

[deft cape]

ah bet

wait how bad do you notice the difference between regular player voice quality compared to the mimicked voices?

[remote iris]

a lil it seems the masked sound a little clearer

[deft cape]

aight hopefully just lowering the bitrate fixes it

i'll send u a dm in a bit

[remote iris]

kk

i remember having a chat with a clone of me and it sounded clear

[deft cape]

@remote iris sent you a dm

hoping 32-bitrate will be a lot closer to what it's like in game

[deft cape]

@rain mountain doesn't seem to be the bitrate sadly, it probably is some sort of filter in the end

@remote iris thanks again for helping me test

i'll have to dig into it later on for what filters are being used

[remote iris]

ye the filter of the game kinda muffles you

[harsh horizon]

Hmm, when SpawnOnPlayerDeath is set to 0, when a masked kills a player, they just vanish (no Masked spawn or body). Anybody else encountering this?

I've removed MEO and TakeThatMaskOff temporarily to see if they are causing it but I don't think so.

I removed Mirage and the player turns into a Masked as expected.

It seems wearing the masked also just kills you instead of converting you now.

[deft cape]

couldn't replicate this with just mirage installed, i set SpawnOnPlayerDeath to 0 and then killed it and it still spawns a body

[remote iris]

not for me

[deft cape]

@rain mountain it seems like i was able to fix the audio quality by using filters, thanks to vladiester for helping confirm how the audio soundsl ike

i am running into an issue though so it's likely i'll have to push the fix tomorrow

[remote iris]

np it sounds hella nice now before i could notice if i focused but now i cant

[bitter harness]

ah now it works for me as well!

[remote iris]

epic

[harsh horizon]

Let me see if there could be other possible conflicts

[bitter harness]

is spawnonplayerdeath on 0 vanilla behavior?

[remote iris]

ye

[bitter harness]

I don't want masked to spawn on any player death, only when they've been killed by a masked

I have vanilla spawning enabled

[remote iris]

yeah that would work

only when getting converted

if u have vanilla spawning enabled

[bitter harness]

yeah okay, perfect

[deft cape]

ok i just realized you're talking about when a masked enemy kills a player, rather than a player killing a player

just tested this and it's indeed mirage that's bugged

[harsh horizon]

ah yes, that was what I meant, sorry it was a little unclear

[deft cape]

nah i just misread thats mb

ill try to get a fix soon, i think i know the issue

[hoary gazelle]

@deft cape does this mod still only work with push to talk?

[lilac saffron]

Nope now supports voice activity

[hoary gazelle]

Sweet

Thank you

[lilac saffron]

You're welcome

[remote iris]

oh that dont work idk i thought it did maybe i had mirage off at the time

[deft cape]

yeah i guess i just never noticed since i always play with it set to 100%

[harsh horizon]

It seems wearing the masked also just kills you instead of converting you now (similar to wearing it at the company building).
It seems like this as well

I assume this is the relevant patch
https://github.com/qwbarch/lc-mirage/blob/main/src/Mirage/Patch/SpawnMirage.fs#L138

[deft cape]

yeah the patch to make it kill is meant to use my custom spawning logic for the zombie thing, but when i made it, i didn't really have in mind for making it configurable so i didn't think about that part too much

i have an idea of what to do to fix this but it'll take a bit of time, i'll finish it tomorrow

just gonna push an update for a couple of other important fixes soon

[deft cape]

v1.0.5 is now out:

• Use audio filters to sound more like vanilla voices
• Mimicked voices on the outside can no longer be heard from inside the facility (and vice-versa)
• Masked enemies no longer mimic voices while hiding on the ship

Thanks to @remote iris for helping me test the audio filters

[remote iris]

Ive been thanked like 5 times already lol np also did you fix the errors?

[deft cape]

oh just wanted to publicly say it haha

errors are gone

tomorrow i'll be trying to fix the issue with masked enemies not spawning when a masked enemy kills a player (or a mask itself)

after that i'll probably be holding off on bug fixes again unless they're really major

[remote iris]

I mean the mod is perfect ig since in my group nobody really puts the mask

[deft cape]

yeah but the masked enemy killing a player while SpawnOnPlayerDeath being on 0 is still an issue

it's tied to the mask as well, jaryl is pretty much right on point on where the bug is coming from

[fading tusk]

no converter?

i still want a mask that actually just bonks you with an active weapon

like that toy hammer from MoreInteriors

[harsh horizon]

Also I'm not entirely sure how the networking RPC works here or how this randomness is synced with all players,
https://github.com/qwbarch/lc-mirage/blob/b71ae2d5ccb3276c612f652f2237c7119041d099/src/Mirage/Patch/SpawnMirage.fs#L159

Would this mean that naturally spawning Masked might be desynced (everyone might see a different player being mimicked on the same enemy)?

I do notice the desync in my tests as well spawning with LethalDevMode.

[fading tusk]

or Lethal scraps something

wait. people would end up seeing a different mimic with a different voice?

[remote iris]

from my exprience we hear the same voice not sure bout words tho

like what themimic saying

[rain mountain]

sick, thanks for figuring it out!

[remote iris]

you can get that with the maskedaioverhaul maybe. they added a feature for masked to attack you with a shovel dont know bout toy hammers but i think they can pick them up

[fading tusk]

i use #1190848624402386985 since they can use the terminal to drop a delivery ship or pickup items

[remote iris]

oh its revamp?

i kept saying overhaul 💀

[remote iris]

it is that

[fading tusk]

i dont want to spoil how they can use weapons

but they do

only when you meet the requirement

[remote iris]

i actually thought they did normally until i saw maskedairevamp

idk why

[fading tusk]

overhaul is the suit and the animation

https://tenor.com/view/tolfy-fennix-fortnite-flippin-sexy-flip-gif-26000910

paired with #1184362437550555176 they can do the

my doppelganger did it in front of me

i ended it's misery

[remote iris]

did your doppelganger do this emote? 💀

[fading tusk]

yep

or T pose

to assert dominance

my friends thought it was me. they got butchered by my doppelganger

at the time, i was having a showdown with the other masked near the ship

cuz of #1187785667833511996 we got an event where we have 'last month's interns" and gets 4 masked plus any random generated ones

and because there were 8 of us. it is hard to find who is fake

[remote iris]

💀

chaos

[fading tusk]

"are you real?" is the best thing you would hear most of the time

[remote iris]

then the mimics repeat it lol

[fading tusk]

untill a mimic says "yeah im real"

[remote iris]

bro my friend makes me do a whole security check

i have to turn

do an emote

then a second one

and say something new

[fading tusk]

lol

[remote iris]

also ive noticed mirage mimics learn faster than skinwalkers or use the voicelines faster

[upbeat olive]

does this work fine with maskedairevamp and maskedoverhaul mod ?

[remote iris]

yes it works perfectly in my exprience

[upbeat olive]

but this mod seem to do the same as maskedoverhaul mod ?

in some aspects

[remote iris]

just use morecompany cosmetics as ac dont seem to work at the moment

[remote iris]

i think it overwrites it

[upbeat olive]

prob

[remote iris]

i mean its just the username feature

thats not in mirage

i just have a mods removing all users

[upbeat olive]

you mean a mod to hide player names ?

[remote iris]

ye

[upbeat olive]

right i can use that

[remote iris]

my friends try to scare and act like a mimic

[fading tusk]

removing the name seems fun but i cant

or else they will always kill one of the crew

since she doesnt talk

they will think its a mimic

[remote iris]

oh rip her lol

she can do the security check i go through lol

or something like it

[harsh horizon]

Thanks for making this open source, I'm running a patched version with my friends with some extra ideas

• Detection of being killed by masked without storing any state: (causeOfDeath = (int) CauseOfDeath.Strangulation && deathAnimation = 4)
• I found it weird to see someone immediately turn into masked in front of me, I added a check for: __instance.isPlayerAlone. It would also discourage going solo.
• Spawning a zombie after falling down the facility spams with NavMesh errors, I did this to blanket prevent spawning when dying from Gravity: causeOfDeath <> (int) CauseOfDeath.Gravity
• Also for interaction with TakeThatMaskOff mod, I reworked this function to spawn a body, but immediately remove it afterwards to set the PlayerControllerB.deadBody naturally:

    [<HarmonyPostfix>]
    [<HarmonyPatch(typeof<PlayerControllerB>, "SpawnDeadBody")>]
    static member ``disable player corpse spawn``(__instance: PlayerControllerB) =
        if __instance.GetComponent<MirageSpawner>().IsSpawned() then
            __instance.deadBody.DeactivateBody(false) // Allows TakeYourMaskOff to recover body

Forgive my F#, it's my first time hearing and working on it haha.

https://gist.github.com/jarylc/3f6fc305466d4970deae16629469b3c2

[tranquil cipher]

I've been reading through this whole thread and I see people say it's like Maskedenmeyoverhaul but better
BUT does this mod mimic cosmetics or nametags?

the nametags, I don't really care about but the cosmetics are quite important I think

[lilac saffron]

dying to dogs also doesnt spawn the zombie

[slim basin]

that reminds me, does this work with modelreplacementapi?

[remote iris]

nametags no cosmetics only for morecompany

[remote iris]

not sure prob not ive seen amod fix that but it said in thedesc it was in testing

[fading tusk]

ModelReplacementAPI is kinda buggy tho

but for mobs it should be fine

just not the users lol

we already experienced a ton of bugs on that mod and their suits

specially with add on cosmetics added

they get desync

[slim basin]

i see i dont use any cosmetics but i will disable the replacementapi for now

[tranquil cipher]

Why no Advanced Company??

[remote iris]

dont know they just dont

[astral umbra]

Heya, does anybody know if the voice files are deleted after closing the game? Would like some confirmation since the mod description does not say so

paging @deft cape

[remote iris]

i mean i would guess they do ive never seen them get repeated after i closed the game

[astral umbra]

But tbf it could be being stored somewhere, I just wanna make sure

[remote iris]

i dont think the creator would do that

the mod is open source

so ye

[astral umbra]

ok fair enough

[fading tusk]

they said the mod is based on Skinwalkers

so it should auto delete

i mean you cant hear the people that left the game

their voice is gone once they leave

the records are gone

unlike skinwalker. it stays for a while until you restart your game really

[twilit void]

They get autodeleted after closing the game. Everything is locally stored in your RAM I think while running the game.

[bitter harness]

I'd say that that's not that accurate. To me it seems that it's a better Skinwalkers mod, that goes well together with Maskedenmeyoverhaul

exactly for the reason that meo does provide some really good options that this mod does not have

however mirage does everything (to my knowledge) skinwalkers does, just better

[fading tusk]

i think mirage is networking based?

everyone needs it

while skinwalker can have other peopole disable it in the group

[jagged wedge]

Skinwalker has the benefit of modded enemy compatibility, that's its niche if using this

[tranquil cipher]

I'm just really impressed by the fact that everyone hears the same voicelines

That's all I really wanted

[maiden tusk]

yep that's the best feature in my opinion

besides copying the correct suit too

[safe sundial]

I also like how you can hear yourself if you’re still alive and you meet a masked mimicking you

[fading tusk]

Ohh?

[fading tusk]

"Our Battle Will Be Legendary!~" once i see mine

it loves to mimic mine

once we play. im going to mess with people by preparing my voice lines to my mimic by saying them somewhere while im away from them

[safe sundial]

yeah I mean if the voicelines are synced you kinda have to hear yourself if you’re being mimicked

[fading tusk]

it's a synced skinwalker

im just saying. ill make it so that i can talk to myself against myself in game

in my friends perspective. it would be funny

[safe sundial]

me and my friend just repeatedly say “I’m a mimic” hoping a masked will say it

[fading tusk]

oh mine is "no, no, no, no, im real"

[deft cape]

i think i actually forgot to make it delete on closing the game, right now it's at the start of a round

[deft cape]

oh nah it's stored as files, storing everything in RAM would be really limiting

[deft cape]

very nice! going to take a look at this later, and depending on the changes, would be open to having a PR

[remote iris]

Bro my group kept saying "i am not a skinwalker" so now the mimics say i am not a skinwalker

[lilac saffron]

I checked my game files and I found a folder called mirage with 300 audio clips the problem is a huge amount of them are just keyboard noises lmao

[deft cape]

that's the issue with voice activity sadly, keyboard noises still get detected as voice activity so they're kept

what i'm thinking in the future is having the option to use voice recognition to keep audio, so in that case if it detects only keyboard noises it'll filter it out

[lilac saffron]

Quick question, after playing for a long time will it replay audio from earlier rounds or just from the beginning of new rounds?

[deft cape]

all audio is deleted at the start of a round, so it's only from the current round

[lilac saffron]

Yeah that could be a good way to optimize storage usage but I don't think that's a big priority rn

[deft cape]

well it's actually part of the features i have planned anyways, which again i'll reveal later on if what's planned is doable or not

[deft cape]

it's not even about optimizing storage usage, main thing is to have it keep only audio where people actually talk

[lilac saffron]

Remember your health is more important thanks for this amazing mod

[deft cape]

hehe thanks for the kind words

[lilac saffron]

True but to be fair it's kinda convincing to hear keyboard sounds

Although that wouldn't make that much sense ingame

[deft cape]

yeah i think it's a bit scuffed if you talk to a mimic and all you hear is typing noises

[lilac saffron]

Well I have to go sleep now, can't wait to see what u have planned next!

[dark brook]

bros typing out an argument

[remote iris]

ive seen two noise suppression mods one called eyponoisesuppression and the other just noisesuppression

try using those ig

ive tested and i can still hear keyboard sounds

[deft cape]

yeah those would apply to the player's voice chat thing itself

[upbeat olive]

this mod is great btw ive been looking forward to the day we would have a networking variant of this

[harsh horizon]

Haha it has a couple of personal changes that I didn't make config options for, so I didn't want to do a PR haha.

[lunar quest]

is it either using this or skinwalkers? Or both?

[harsh horizon]

@deft cape fyi quick question here, not very familiar with how rpc works, I've not dug very deep on this as well

[deft cape]

hmm did you link the wrong part of the source code? i don't see an rpc call there. but from what i remember, it shouldn't desync. if it does it's definitely unintended

[deft cape]

all good i'd still love to have a PR, and then i'll just add the configurations myself

sent you a DM regarding your changes btw if you could take a look at it

[deft cape]

thanks glad you like it 😄

[deft cape]

if you have both installed, it will use both. it's recommended to use only one or the other mod or you'll hear duplicate voices

[harsh horizon]

Ah that's the idea, it was more like shouldn't this be an RPC? If not all clients will be doing the random and setting the wrong skin on the Masked

[deft cape]

oh yikes i didn't even realize it, did that when it was like 5am so i wasn't thinking straight 😬

yeah i'll go fix that mb lmfao

jesus that's some terrible code

can't believe i never noticed it either

[harsh horizon]

Haha no worries I do think your focus was more on the zombification rather than natural spawns, totally understand.

[deft cape]

yeah i never intended on natural spawns until i realized a good majority probably prefers that instead

[harsh horizon]

For me is not having to explain to my friends why getting killed by a spider turns them into a masked.

I like to introduce enemies and new gameplay without telling them first 😂, but I don't want it to be too different. Hence why I added the nearby flag check, so my friends don't know about the conversion

[deft cape]

ah true that's one way of compromising for a more vanilla-like experience

[remote iris]

either this or that but if you want modded enemys to mimic u have to get skinwalkers but it wont be synced

[tepid condor]

Could you just disable the mask in skin walkers and use this for the masks if you wanted to use both?

[safe sundial]

yeah but why would you

other than modded enemies

[inner idol]

Only custom filters can be played. Please add a custom filter or an audioclip to the audiosource (Crawler(Clone)).
Can't add component 'AudioReverbFilter' to Crawler(Clone) because such a component is already added to the game object!
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at Mirage.Unity.ImitatePlayer+ImitatePlayer.Awake () [0x00039] in <913aaba49cfc1f5b6f821fceb6019c7e>:IL_0039 
UnityEngine.Object:Internal_InstantiateSingle_Injected(Object, Vector3&, Quaternion&)
UnityEngine.Object:Internal_InstantiateSingle(Object, Vector3, Quaternion)
UnityEngine.Object:Instantiate(Object, Vector3, Quaternion)
UnityEngine.Object:Instantiate(GameObject, Vector3, Quaternion)
BrutalCompanyMinus.Minus.Spawn:DoSpawnInsideEnemies()
BrutalCompanyMinus.Minus.Manager:OnRefreshEnemyVents()
RoundManager:DMD<RoundManager::RefreshEnemyVents>(RoundManager)
<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)```

is that serious error? looks like it's happening when brutal company minus trying to spawn enemies

perhaps enemies that should talk

and then this error happens

[tepid condor]

You could have other monsters rarely talk with skin, and this would be normal
Random idea idk

[safe sundial]

well mirage covers all vanilla creatures

and will eventually add modded ones

[tepid condor]

Ah ok, last I saw it was masked, mb

[safe sundial]

yeah it was added after

you could still use skinwalkers to make modded enemies talk and disable everything else in skinwalkers

[deft cape]

i'll add support for modded enemies tomorrow (although it'll be enabled for all modded enemies, i'll let players selectively choose much later on in the future)

[tepid condor]

Can this do longer clips by chance like skin?
Bc my friend sang "where the homies" and it copied his whole song

[deft cape]

thanks for the report, i'll fix that

[deft cape]

wdym, aren't the clips already longer than skinwalkers? (im assuming he's using push to talk)

for mirage the recording starts when push to talk is pressed, and ends when push to talk is released

[tepid condor]

Ah ok I see

[fading sapphire]

This is a very cool mod, was a huge fan of skinwalkers and can't wait to get some playtime on this!

[tranquil cipher]

I don't like coming in here to request a feature, when this mod is already so impressive BUT...
I read before that someone had an Idea about disabling hearing your own voice. Meaning that when a Mask imitates you, everyone hears it talk except you.
I think this is genius because then people can't instanly warn other people from confusing the mask for a real person.

Instead, the mask talks in another room and the the clueless crewmate just assumes it's their friend who went through the fire exit instead of "That's not me" and every chance of deception is lost

[fading sapphire]

I think it'd be funny when the masked is saying "that's not me" it adds even further confusion when people hear it through the walls

[fading tusk]

reminds me of this

me fighting my doppelganger whenever I see it

[fading tusk]

its either him or me lol

i got hit by it with a shovel once

he brought a shovel to a gun fight

[lofty sorrel]

Just to be clear, the voice clips used are only from when you left orbit to land on the current planet? Not from previous rounds?

[tranquil cipher]

Yep only saved for that trip

Which I think is a bit too recent but I haven't played with it sooo

[dusty acorn]

me and my friends seem to only hear the host being mimicked. does anybody else have this issue? is it possible we have just gotten incredibly unlucky? it seems so unlikely when playing on moons like atlas abyss for this to happen

[fading sapphire]

Ah that's unfortunate, I'd love to have it configurable or more similar to Skinwalkers with the 500 stored audio clips, I feel like it'd be way to recent especially since our group splits up a good amount and don't speak much when alone

[dark brook]

any news for cosmetic support?

👉 👈

[tranquil cipher]

Advanced Company support?🥺

[dark brook]

MEO has both so it def possible

[safe sundial]

pretty sure cosmetics work

[granite musk]

[granite musk]

do dead bodies disappear when they became zombies ?

[deft cape]

ah i forgot about that, i'll add it in the next update

[deft cape]

while it shouldnt be an thing, it could be related to a bug that i found for natural spawns (which im trying to fix)

about deleting audio clips less often, ill eventually have more options for it, just priotizing more important things for now

[deft cape]

support for cosmetics that arent suits will have to come later

im assuming the AC request is related to cosmetics

[dark brook]

yeah, it kinda does it in its own way

i think

well MEO dev had to make a separate compatibility patch for it

after making the masked work with MC

also quoting MEO dev

#1184403394660663326 message

i do not make money from this, so i do not care what anyone does with it. feel free to use the github to make any mod you want

[steep shale]

Yeah you can only hear the host even on death spawns

[dusty acorn]

is it a mod incompat maybe?

[deft cape]

that doesn't sound right then, it works for me

[deft cape]

yeah i'll have to figure that out later on

@steep shale just to confirm, all non-hosts have the mod as well right?

[graceful steppe]

Does this work well with skinwalker mod?

[tranquil cipher]

as long as you don't enable masked for skinwalker yeah

[dusty acorn]

im having the same issue and everyone has the mod

[deft cape]

(or whichever other monsters you have enabled on mirage, disable it on skinwalkers)

[deft cape]

no clue then sorry, never heard anyone else have that issue before

is anyone else having that issue?

[dusty acorn]

do u mind sharing ur modlist maybe we both have a mod that breaks this one

[deft cape]

quite possible i broke something in the latest version without even noticing (and haven't playtested enough)

im rewriting the spawn logic since it's really broken atm so maybe it's related

[dusty acorn]

i believe it was still happening pre latest update

[deft cape]

that's odd, that does sound like mod incompatiblity then

[dusty acorn]

is there like a cheat mod i can use to spawn masked in to test it easier

cause then i can just binary search and let u know which is incompatible

[dark brook]

lethaldevmode

[dusty acorn]

tysm

[dark brook]

or something with dev in it

[steep shale]

Yes

[flat tiger]

Is this mod compatible with maskedairevamp?

[lunar quest]

Incompatible?

[dusty acorn]

yeah im like 99% sure it might be lcpocketboombox though

double checking

rn

oh wait yeah yknow what

it is lcpocketboombox

gonna doublecheck to be safe anyways

[scarlet anvil]

I only have zombie spawn upon death as a small chance, but whenever a zombie doesn't spawn, the body just disappears. I assume that's not supposed to happen?

[deft cape]

@dusty acorn ah nice thanks for checking, i'll make an incompatible mods list in the readme with it

[dusty acorn]

about to check which it is but its one of the two ( iw as wrong)

[deft cape]

yep that's a bug. @ jaryl wrote a fix for it, but there's another bug that's preventing me from releasing the update, and i'm just rewriting the entire spawn logic instead since it's just terribly written rn

[scarlet anvil]

Cool beans 👍

Thanks for putting so much work into this mod - super fun

[dusty acorn]

yeah its lcpocketboombox

[steep shale]

I don’t have this mod

[dusty acorn]

do you have symbiosis?

[steep shale]

No

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[dusty acorn]

ty

ill try to figure it out and make sure of it

[steep shale]

Alr Ty

[dusty acorn]

my friend went push to talk and never spoke so maybe it forced it into using my voicelines

so we are retesting

[steep shale]

Does masked enemy overhaul

Fuck with it

?

I removed that mod since I last played

[dusty acorn]

it shouldnt

[lament mica]

Disable

• masked being removed
• zombie arms animation
  As this mod does this too.

[dusty acorn]

on a fresh install with just mirage and its dependencies

only the host is able to hear the mirages

and whenever a mirage talks this error code appears in the host's console

[deft cape]

oh wtf

odd since i don't experience that myself but

@dusty acorn i'm rewriting the voice mimicking and masked enemy spawning logic anyways so hopefully that'll fix it

btw just to confirm, when you're testing it was only with naturally spawned masked enemies right

[deft cape]

glad you like it!

[dusty acorn]

i had all monsters able to mimick in the config so that i could test faster

[deft cape]

ah ic im just gonna pray the rewrite fixes it lmao

[dusty acorn]

only thing i could think of is that im on linux

[deft cape]

nah i doubt that's the issue

wait how's the wine compat for lethal?

never even bothered trying to run the game on linux yet

[dusty acorn]

proton works perfect

[deft cape]

oh shit great to know, i guess i can finally go back to linux soon

[dusty acorn]

yeah i recently made the switch and haven't had like any troubles whatsoever playing games or anything

[deft cape]

it's nice until that one game you play isn't supported 😭

so i typically hop back onto windows for games

[dusty acorn]

only games im aware of that dont work are the ones actively aggressive to linux like league of legends and fortnite

its no loss to me though i dont really play those

https://www.protondb.com/

good site for checking linux game compatibility

[dawn cloud]

did u aso arent u just rewriting the whole mod at that point?

[deft cape]

not really

i'm not touching the audio logic

[stark rampart]

is the mod working just fine to replace it with masked enemy overhaul or nah?

[deft cape]

the mod's main functionality right now is for synced voices, masked enemy overhaul is for different things

whether or not you need MEO depends on if the features you want from it is in mirage

i.e. removing mask texture, arms-out animation, etc

[stark rampart]

oh thank you, I will test the mod a bit

[stark rampart]

So I've downloaded it and I can't hear anything. Not even my friend's voice or mine

[exotic turtle]

Any plans to separate the voice frequency for different monsters, or at least mimics? I'd like to have mimics chattering away, but I want Bracken to only occasionally try lure players with a voice line

[deft cape]

seems like multiple people are running into this today

i'd recommend just not using mirage for now since i don't know which update i pushed that broke it

doing a rewrite of some core logic that should hopefully fix it

[deft cape]

probably not, and if i do it'll be much later in the future

[stark rampart]

actually I heard it once

when I was dead yeah

[deft cape]

only once? that's odd

[stark rampart]

but it was just one time in a 2h gameplay

I heard my own voice for a moment

[deft cape]

pretty sure last time i tested with just mirage it worked fine but

either way i'd recommend waiting for the next update before trying again

[stark rampart]

ok ty

[deft cape]

my guess is that i should have an update tomorrow if things go well at least

[umbral briar]

Maybe 1.0.5's "Mimicked voices on the outside can no longer be heard from inside the facility (and vice-versa)"?

[deft cape]

yeah it could be from 1.0.5

[umbral briar]

wait sorry quick question, you cant hear ANYTHING or you cant hear the mirage voices?

[stark rampart]

sorry I mean the voices

my english sucks sometimes

[umbral briar]

nono its fine you said everything correctly

:P

[deft cape]

nvm i'll probably add this in the next update, or the update after that. it'll only be configurable for masked enemies, and non-masked enemies as a whole group, so that it doesn't clog up the config

[exotic turtle]

Wonderful, thanks mate hope it's not too much of a headache for you

[deft cape]

v1.0.6 is released:

Thanks to @harsh horizon for the initial for masked enemy spawns!

• Rewrite masked enemy spawn and mimicking logic
  • This is less invasive now and should conflict with other mods less often
  • Fixed a bug where naturally spawned masked enemies weren't synced properly
• Fixed a bug where players not haunted by the ghost girl could hear the mimicking voice.
• Add configuration option to only spawn player on death, when the dying player is alone
• Add configuration option to mute the mimicking voice when mimicking the local player
• Add configuration option to adjust voice mimicking delay for non-masked enemies
• Add configuration option to mimic voices on modded enemies

v1.0.7 hotfix:

• Hotfix: If the local player's mimicking voice is muted, it now becomes unmuted when the player is dead

FYI the ghost girl changes aren't really tested. everything else should be fine

[potent hatch]

does ghost girl play lines even when she's not visible?

[deft cape]

it shouldn't, that's one of the checks i put in for the update

[potent hatch]

i feel like it might be interesting if she could play lines while invisible

also, to fix the delay, could you maybe just delay it from playing for the host until it's playable on all clients?

[deft cape]

you mean audio not playing at the exact same time? yeah i'll do that eventually

anyways, lmk if u guys discover any bugs with the update since i rewrote the spawning/mimicking logic. didn't have enough time to test it super in-depth but it seemed fine in my quick playtest

[cosmic token]

Add configuration option to mute the mimicking voice when mimicking the local player
I guess this means I won't hear myself - is this true even if I am dead and spectating?

[deft cape]

FUCK I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

well uh

i guess im getting back on my pc rn

[cosmic token]

I mean it is not big thing but it can result in some less laughs with friends 😄

[deft cape]

glad i did one last check before going to bed, i'm gonna deprecate the latest version and post a new update

[deft cape]

it's a small fix anyways, just forgot about it

hmm not sure if i can deprecate a specific version

whatever i'll just push a new version, nobody has 1.0.6 yet anyways

[deft cape]

updated to reflect the hotfix change, version is now at 1.0.7 since i can't just revert v1.0.6

[cosmic token]

Thank you for this dream mod and sick updates you provide for us ❤️ 👍

[deft cape]

np, i appreciate the support ❤️

[soft hollow]

Question

This mod compared to Skinwalkers + MEO

What does this mod miss

[remote iris]

advanced company cosmetic support only i think (morecompany works)

[jagged wedge]

Skinwalkers has modded enemy support; MEO has nametags, zombie apocalypse, suits and cosmetics matching, and bracken-like spawn rates for natural masks

[remote iris]

mirage just got that

in 1.0.6

pretty sure

ah ye

forgot about those

[jagged wedge]

Which? I stated a lot of things

[remote iris]

suit and cosmetics work in mirage

[jagged wedge]

Gotcha thx

[remote iris]

and if you have meo the spawns would work

[safe sundial]

works for me

[remote iris]

did he fix it

?

i havn't played past 1.0.5

[safe sundial]

I dunno

its just been working ever since I downloaded it

I got it whenever I saw qwbarch say voice activity is supported

[soft hollow]

what about TooManyEmotes support?

[jagged wedge]

I thought the TME thing was standalone

[soft hollow]

oh ur rite

so the only reason I shouldn't switch is cuz I'm waiting on AC support

and who do I bother for that one

Mirage or AC

Am I correct or tweakin

[safe sundial]

actually i cant remember the last time I saw a mask was before or after I downloaded mirage

idk

[cosmic token]

You can still use MEO with Mirage to have AC cosmetics. At least it worked for me yesterday

[remote iris]

i think it works

[stark rampart]

Does it work with MaskedAIRevamp?

[dawn cloud]

prob

[remote iris]

ye

[fading sapphire]

Hey @deft cape sorry for the ping but I can't really find an answer here, how long are these audio clips retained for? Is it like skinwalkers where there's a rolling limit of 500 and it just overwrites when hits the cap? Purged at intervals? Unfortunately not had time to play with it yet

[lofty sorrel]

They're purged at the next round start as of now, I don't think they're purged on the game closing though but that's something I think they're going to change

[dusty acorn]

@deft cape you fixed it yay!!! thank you sm

great mod

no error codes and everything working exactly as expected

[delicate fern]

this is cool af

[cursive scroll]

So when I have this mod I don't need the skinwalkers mod?

[pulsar lotus]

I still have them talking when dead don't know why
and they they talk with the voice of someone else

[wispy frost]

I still seem to be able to hear them outside when they talk inside the facility 🤔

[pulsar lotus]

same for me i think 😬

[deft cape]

whoops dont know how i broke that part

not sure ill be working on the mod today but i'll fix it on the next update

[deft cape]

the voice doesnt match the suit?

[pulsar lotus]

yes

but some said it was working so maybe it's another mod of mine breaking it

i'll look into it when i have time

[deft cape]

sounds good lmk the results

[deft cape]

what debby said. i'll eventually allow it to be more configurable though

[deft cape]

yep

[deft cape]

dont bother the AC author for that LOL, it's something i'll have to support on my end

@pulsar lotus just to confirm do u have MEO installed and setting random suits for you

[soft hollow]

Potatoe is a stressed dude already, and I think he kinda doesnt like me but I'd be annoyed if i got dozens of people pinging me and asking me shit everyday too

[deft cape]

yeah he's got too much on his plate already

[pulsar lotus]

nope i thought it was doing the same so i desactivated it

[deft cape]

ah

who else is having this issue in 1.0.7?

• able to hear outside enemies from the inside (and vice versa)
• voices not matching the suit they have on

just want to know if more ppl are having this issue, or if it's more likely a mod compat issue

[abstract valve]

i played today and I haven’t came across this yet

Apparently, piggy (the creator of maskedairevamp) is really busy these days that’s why they’re not responding to mirage’s compatibility requests

[deft cape]

so it really could just be a mod compat issue for the others then, but i'll try testing again later just in case it was a bug that i introduced

[deft cape]

that's specifically the walkie talkie thing right

[soft hollow]

Me!

[remote iris]

The 1st pretty sure

For me atleast

[deft cape]

damn it probably is a bug with mirage then

is anyone having voice mismatches with just mirage installed?

i might have an idea of what's causing the issue for the first issue

second one i'm still not too sure yet

[inner idol]

by next round you mean each landing or each time you join a server?

[lofty sorrel]

When the seed generates or around about there

[inner idol]

oh, that's unfortunate then

it was fun to hear phrases from skinwalkers that happened hour ago

hope it will be configurable later

[deft cape]

as a quick fix i could just add a configuration to only delete per round vs on game startup/end

but for more optipns than that it'll have to wait

[soft hollow]

@deft cape so in the mean time if I just disable voices all together would that fix the voice issues

[dark talon]

maybe, yea. I activated the option to mute local player but my friend was hearing himself in duo when I was dead. So might be related, I guess

[soft hollow]

oh right

I also had that setting active and I heard myself playing solo

[deft cape]

ah fuck i tested it, but i mightve broke it after that test lmao

will try and fix them tonight then

[inner idol]

yes, that will be perfect

[tepid condor]

^

[pulsar lotus]

@deft cape I just tested it with the bare minimum (something to spawn a masked and a suit mod) and they still all repeat everyone voices and speak when dead, so it's not an incompatiblity, or is it with the spawner ? (low chances)

[scarlet anvil]

Wait is it like uplayable rn?

[deft cape]

the voices also dont match the suits right

it's def the mod

i guess i overlooked stuff and introduced a diff bug whoops

[deft cape]

alright it's confirmed broken sorry y'all, should probably stick to 1.0.5 and below for now

[remote iris]

any luck repairing it?

[deft cape]

well i pretty must just started looking at it so

[remote iris]

or fixing it

[deft cape]

i'll msg here if i find anything

[remote iris]

kk i can test rn if u need any testing

[deft cape]

bet ill ping u when i need help testing

[stark crown]

Hello, @deft cape, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[remote iris]

i thought your acc was now butthen i look at the creation date and its 2018 and your still rocking the default pfp

[deft cape]

oh i used to have a pfp but i just got tired of it, removed it and then forgot i still haven't set one yet 😂

[remote iris]

lol

[lilac saffron]

default pfp does go hard doe

[deft cape]

fr

ok so it's not related to the spawning logic, that's confirmed working, and the voice mimicking for it is the correct voice as well (at least in a 2 player lobby)

pretty sure it has to do with the filters i did and i think i know the issue anyways

so just in the process of testing it out rn

[deft cape]

alright it's looking good, @remote iris you still down to test?

[deft cape]

im just gonna push an update soon, had someone else test with me and it's looking fine right now

[timber notch]

Just tried the mod and was just about to report the issue and I see it’s already fixed lol

[deft cape]

yeah sorry about that

will be pushing an update soon

[remote iris]

ah yes

sorry im late

was playing with randoms

[deft cape]

nah ur good

im probably just gonna push, been testing with someone else and i juts dont see any problems

[remote iris]

kk thats good

[deft cape]

v1.0.8 is released:

• Fixed a bug where voice filters weren't being applied, causing mimicked voices to behave unpredictably
• Fixed a bug where SpawnOnPlayerDeath could spawn two masked enemies in certain scenarios

This should fix the issues that came from v1.0.6/1.0.7

[deft cape]

regarding this i'll add it tomorrow, just wanted to only work on the bug fixes for today

[fading sapphire]

Your hard work is appreciated 🫡

[timber notch]

Oh dw, if anything I meant it positively lol

Although I tested on my own and had weird glitch click sounds

Once they had a few lines to use they’d stop using it

[fading tusk]

having multiple masked is kinda funny sometimes

cuz a friend one mine bugged her inventory by drinking the gremlin soda and bugged her game not able to die, pickup/drop or change inventory slots

and tried killing her once and she had negative hp

and a masked came and she thought it wont kill her

they were stuck in that masked attack form infinite red mist attack

but a clone of her showed up and spawned underneath them

basically ended up with 3 masked

killed all 3 of them afterwards

[deft cape]

the multiple masked thing that i patched out was specifically a bug that would spawn a "ghost" masked enemy that would exist but doesn't actually do anything (can't kill anything)

so what you mentioned is probably just natural spawns im assuming

[deft cape]

that comes from using voice activity, unfortunately it picks up keyboard clicks as voice activity detected

i plan on eventually using voice recognition to filter out clips that don't contain any proper voice audio

[timber notch]

Nah it wasn’t keyboard clicks

It was like an actual audio glitch sound

[deft cape]

this was 1.0.7 right

can you lmk if it still happens in 1.0.8

[timber notch]

I’ll give it a test tomorrow and see!

[deft cape]

lmk how it goes

[timber notch]

I will

I always said the ultimate mod combo was masked enemy overhaul + skinwalkers and this just combines them and syncs them? goated

only thing that’ll have me still using maskedenemyoverhaul (alongside this) is the mask fading option

[remote iris]

ye this mod is fire

[remote iris]

ah that

[timber notch]

Also this copies cosmetics as well, right?

[remote iris]

ye

[timber notch]

Radddd

[deft cape]

i think people have been reporting that it doesn't support AC cosmetics

or anything of the sort that adds custom textures

it works with suits (like x753's moresuits) and morecompany's cosmetics

those are the ones that i've tested myself at least

[timber notch]

I had maskedenemyoverhaul (with everything disabled but mask fading) and this and cosmetics and textured suits worked

But that could’ve been MEO doing it

[abstract valve]

Yes

[deft cape]

yeah it's probably just MEO doing it since i haven't done anything specific to support AC cosmetics yet

[deft cape]

i could try supporting it on my end later on but it'd have to be much later, got a lot of other things to prioritize for the mod on the meantime

[timber notch]

I do have more company in the pack but AC disables it and just uses it for its cosmetics

[remote iris]

ye wish we could config that

maybe we can

ill check

[fading tusk]

a lot has morecompany dependency

mainly cosmetics

note that ModelReplacementAPI suits with morecompany cosmetics desyncs the user

we tried that with the female scavenger suit

[deft cape]

hmm so when i do start to support (custom) cosmetics, is it basically choosing one or the other

[fading tusk]

and they used TooManyEmotes and now they stuck in desync

to be honest. i dont know what actually desyncs them. but having those two combined kinda desync them one way or another

i disabled the suit since then and now they can play normally

they liked the female suit

[remote iris]

i prefer badasscompany to toomanyemotes

[fading tusk]

i just didnt like having a ton of music while emoting

[remote iris]

you can mute it

[fading tusk]

was trying to have it TOS friendly as much as possible

and i dont want that to bug while some peeps prefer the MoreEmotes

[remote iris]

also

look at this

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Bibendi/AEIOUCompany/

tts

[fading tusk]

ohh

[remote iris]

for chat

[fading tusk]

nice find

[timber notch]

I just use MoreEmotes bc I’m basic

[fading tusk]

does it work for users only? or just anything on the chat?

[remote iris]

users

pretty sure

i mean

[timber notch]

I used to use it

But iirc it has issues

[remote iris]

it tiesthe voice to the player

[fading tusk]

cuz i have events and i dont want it to read those ahaha

[remote iris]

so you hear it coming from the player

[fading tusk]

ok

ill note that for now

[timber notch]

I know it was removed from AdvancedCompany

Sorry I’m tired

TheMostLethalCompany

REMOVAL: Bibendi-AEIOUCompany-1.3.5

REASON: Suspected cause of several audio-related bugs.

[remote iris]

there are voices but kinda annoying you have to type this weird thing in the start

[remote iris]

oh

damn

didn't know

i played with randoms

and it worked fine

[timber notch]

I meant TheMostLethalCompany not advanced

v tired

[remote iris]

and the creator of diversity

the walker is fire

he works well ingame

@fading tusk did u get your hands on the diversity beta?

[deft cape]

man i can't wait for the new diversity update

[remote iris]

same you should try the beta

its fire

@fading tusk look at dis

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Forellma/Bracken_Jammer/

[deft cape]

walker sounds hella cool (haven't seen any vids of it yet if it's been teased)

also personally a fan of adding some jump scares

which is part of the roadmap

[remote iris]

ooo that will be lit

[remote iris]

the walker pairs up well with the fiend

i wont spoil

[fading tusk]

no. ill wait for the main release

i cant test till off day anyway

also that TTS. whats that NH things?

[remote iris]

it likes a singing voice

pretty sure

it will rythm or something

[fading tusk]

so just typing normally works?

[remote iris]

the normal voice sounds like twitch tts man voice

like that popular one

[remote iris]

ye

[potent hatch]

walker and fiend would shake hands and play lethal company together probably

[remote iris]

i could see that lol

[fading sapphire]

MaskedAiRework is an excellent addition there too, I've been fooled a few times by masked enemies picking up my friends shovels 😅

[timber notch]

How stable is it?

I’ve been waiting until it entered a stable state to try it

[fading sapphire]

Very now, it used to cause a lot of lag with 3+ masked but Piggy pushed an update, it doesn't cause any lag now and is very stable

[timber notch]

Oh sweet I thought it was still unstable

I’ll def try it then

Masked (and the masks themselves too) are easily my fav enemies bc they have so much potential for cool mod stuff

[remote iris]

@fading tusk bro in diversity beta the voice of the ship is a troll 😭

[timber notch]

Even vanilla masked— I play with Huntdown with a friend who plays unmodded and last months interns can easily end a run if you’re not careful

(For those who don’t know it that event starts the day with 4 masked spawned)

I’ve gotten pretty good at fighting them with a shovel because of it lol

[fading sapphire]

Since the lag fix update it's been a blast, they have their own little personalities and can't wait to see how the mod progresses once Piggy is able to continue it

If you want a clip of it in action then here, I was unsure if it was my mate or not, but surely it was, he was at the cupboard with his shovel putting it away 😅

https://youtu.be/sK8Ps1cgaOU?si=LPO60cazBN1GVzeD

[timber notch]

Can you enable/disable certain personalities?

A friend of mine hates fighting masked and said they’d totally get the mod if you can only have the shovel personality

[fading sapphire]

Not to my knowledge but it spices things up a lot, like having one run off with a painting thinking it was my friend going to the ship

Oh no that's it by default, they pick items up

[timber notch]

How’s the balancing with lower player counts?

[fading sapphire]

Absolutely fine, I'd say they are easier to fight with shovels than normal masked but deception is the key

[timber notch]

I imagine with only 2 people it isn’t ideal

[fading sapphire]

I play with 1-2 people and it's yielded hilarious results

[timber notch]

Oh rad

[fading sapphire]

Like a masked carrying my friends body to the ship 😂

[timber notch]

omg that sounds hilarious

[lilac saffron]

for some reason the mimics i get keep glitching and camp the frickin ship making it hard to do anything

[fading sapphire]

I've had that a few times at Atlas because they can spawn outside there, they tend to leave and re-enter the facility, keep that shovel handy!

[timber notch]

Eh I’m so used to fighting them with shovels it prob won’t make much of a difference for me

The only time in recent memory I can think of that I got turned was when I accidentally put on tragedy when playing with my friends on rend or dine (can’t remember which) lmao

[cosmic token]

I thought they don't work at Atlas at all. I tested it few days ago and they were jusk backwalking to the ship and got stuck next to it. So if I turn off outside spawns there, it could fix the problem?

[fading sapphire]

I've seen them get stuck beside the ship but I believe that's just the navmesh, seen them get on the ship plenty of times too, can't say i've seen them run backwards to it though but they are a nuisance on eclipsed there. As for spawning outside that can't be disabled for Atlas and the MEO option to not spawn outside doesn't seem to affect that, you will just get your fair share of Masked on that moon regardless of what is set on MEO

[cosmic token]

I can turn off outside spawn in AC I think but not sure if it can fix their behavior

[fading sapphire]

Ohh right I don't play with AC so I had no idea the level of control that mod has, that's certainly a way to alleviate the problem, you'll still get a few popping out of the facility from time to time, I use Masked Enemy Overhaul to handle the vanilla friendly spawns for all moons so I have them set to a weight of 14 or something

[lilac saffron]

im not sure if its intended but if im dead and a enemy mimics my voice i dont hear it (the local player mute is enabled)

[deft cape]

thats exactly what that config option does

if you want to hear yourself you need to set it to false

although when you're dead you should be able to hear yourself again

[lilac saffron]

Yes that's what I meant

[safe sundial]

he’s saying he cant hear himself

when he’s dead

[lilac saffron]

I don't hear myself

[deft cape]

oh im dumb

ill take a look at it tonight

theres no other issues with the new update so far right

[fading tusk]

if im running this with MEO, MaskedAIRevamp

what should i remove?

besides the MEO spawn count

can i also use TakeThatMaskOff mod?

because i went home early

and i want to test it now

along with other mods

any conflicting configs?

there isnt anything else right?

i know this mod does the mask and the zombie arms

so i disabled those too

[deft cape]

i personally dont know since i havent played the game in awhile, maybe someone who's played with all these mods could chime in

[fading tusk]

imagine suddenly typing @ everyone lol

jokes aside. ill test what i can test

[deft cape]

sounds good lmk how it goes, i should start writing a compatibility list with the masked mods sometime

[dark brook]

might wanna turn this on

[fading tusk]

i had that disabled even on MEO as far as im aware

i mean on another mod

[fading tusk]

what does it do?

just make them spawn on high end maps like titan?

[dark brook]

disables the additional spawn functionality

no the other way around

if you turn it on it wont fiddle with spawns

[fading tusk]

so i just set it to "True" on Mirage?

[dark brook]

wym on mirage, i thought it was meo's config.....

[fading tusk]

this is MEO's config

should i set it true? or false?

for MEO i mean

[fading tusk]

MEO vanilla spawn True or False
Mirage Vanilla Spawn True or False

well since you said MEO is True then ill just do that while leaving Mirage on False

@dark brook does enabling this confuse Huntdown? when the target are the last month's interns

[dark brook]

idk honestly

[inner idol]

seems like EnableModdedEnemies also makes bees talk

even if EnableBees = false

or something else, not sure

but today we had bunch of talking hives

[deft cape]

looks like i didnt match the correct class for bees

ill take a look at that tonight as well

[dark brook]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-movie-gif-21791471

[deft cape]

@inner idol oh hey i just realized this is you lmao https://github.com/Hardeh/LCMaxSoundFix

[inner idol]

yeah 👀

[deft cape]

knew i recognized that pfp somewhere

[fading sapphire]

Hey qwbarch! Me and my friend got some experience with Mirage today and it was working well, it didn't seem the voicelines were synced between us and I saw a mimic of me use my friend's voice rather than mine, we were using v1.0.8 and the configs were synced as I always redistribute my profile before a session, any idea what could be causing that? I saw in the changelog that this was an issue fixed in 1.0.6

[deft cape]

@fading sapphire would you happen to have a mod that might change who the masked enemy is mimicking?

[fading sapphire]

Only thing that comes to mind might be MaskedEnemyOverhaul or MaskedAIRework

[deft cape]

i couldn't replicate voicelines not matching during my playtest with someone else, so that's the only thing i can think of as of now

[fading sapphire]

MaskedEnemyOverhaul gets player suits so maybe it's doing something?

[deft cape]

as long as they don't change the mimicking player it'd be fine

lemme take a quick look at the mod

[fading sapphire]

I'm specifically using the fork

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Coppertiel/MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork/

[remote iris]

Try doinf a test run on another profile

Maybe its an incompatibility or maybe its mirage's fault that will help see whats causing it

[fading sapphire]

I'll copy over configs and set up my testing profile

1 sec

[deft cape]

are you running into the same issue as well

damn i thought i fixed most of the major issues

https://github.com/Capital-Asterisk/MaskedEnemyOverhaul/blob/dc7c1e537515277f05f8eb7b718c92a1c6506486/Patches/MaskedVisualRework.cs#L64

@fading sapphire this is the culprit most likely

i think you'll have to ask the author to make that part configurable

[fading sapphire]

Oh which part? The suits part?

[deft cape]

the specific line i linked, it changes which player to mimic for the masked enemy

[fading sapphire]

Ahh I see

[deft cape]

well i'm not 100% if that's the exact issue but it really does look like it conflicts with what mirage does

wait

how about this

i'll patch it out and send you the dll

and you just test if it's fixed

and if it is, then you'll have to ask the author to make it configurable

[fading sapphire]

That makes sense, i'll manually patch it and get it tested next time my mate is around

[deft cape]

sounds good

that might be the root of why some ppl are getting different voices

[fading sapphire]

On this topic actually, are there any plans for touching spawns of Masked and syncing of suits? Because really that's all I use MEO for now since half of your mod does what it does

[deft cape]

suits are already synced

[lunar quest]

Me too

[remote iris]

Im not really sure ive been on a trip recently so couldnt test a lot of 1.0.8

[deft cape]

oh all good, just thought if you were having issues as well then i probably have more things to fix again lmaoo

[fading tusk]

suits are synced? including the cosmetics from more company/AC ones?

[deft cape]

for spawns, i'll probably allow it to be configurable later on

[deft cape]

more company works (tested it myself), not sure about AC since i haven't used it yet

[fading tusk]

do we get name mimic too like MEO does?

[deft cape]

no name tags yet, that's on my TODO

[fading sapphire]

I mean really what I can do is just disable MEO, the masked spawns is all I use it for but modded moons already incorporate the masked in spawn pools, saves the headaches until spawns are added under your mod

[deft cape]

btw out of curiosity @fading sapphire how much does MaskedAIRevamp change things? i watched your vid but it's a small snippet, just curious if that's more of a rare occurence (the way the masked enemy turned around and can fool people that way)

[remote iris]

You can hide names with a mod but you already said that one girl is gonna get killed lol

[fading sapphire]

It only changes their behaviour and how they interect, nothing on their functionality or spawning

[deft cape]

yeah im just curious about the behaviour part cuz there's not many videos on that mod

but it sounds really cool

[fading sapphire]

Like they pathfind a bit more naturally, pick objects up.... blast you with a shotgun

[deft cape]

oh shit

[remote iris]

Also they hide scrap in bushes

[deft cape]

pathfinding more naturally and not staring into the player like they have an aimbot is what i really want

[remote iris]

And use the terminal but thats kinda glitchy

They can also buy stuff with the terminal to lure players

[fading sapphire]

I've never had em use the terminal, I always move it to a slightly different spot so I don't think they can path to it

But cool features

[fading tusk]

i have seen them use the terminal

[deft cape]

ngl that sounds fire paired up with mirage

[fading tusk]

it was loud as heck

i could hear the jingles of the delivery from inside the ship

all 4 of them were inside the ship

"last month's interns" event from huntdown

[fading sapphire]

Now also pair it with hiddennames and Reservedflashlight to give the authentic experience 😎

[deft cape]

whoops forgot to reply to this, but the only reason i haven't added spawn support yet is because i have no clue what the numbers for spawning rarity means underneath the hood, and haven't had the time to look into it yet

[lunar quest]

can hide names through general improvement mod

[deft cape]

yepp i use hidden names as well

[fading tusk]

i want the names to show on the mimics really

[inner idol]

afaik morecompany shows cosmetics on masked enemies by itself

[fading sapphire]

Ah I don't have GI, I like my corporate mod

[inner idol]

no third party needed

[fading tusk]

i use MEO to show names to make my crew to look up and check who it was

[deft cape]

explains why i haven't had to do anything for it to work

[fading tusk]

for more confusion

[fading sapphire]

It could be worthwhile asking someone like Skullcrusher about that? Him and his team had to add about 5 enemies into Ooblterra

[deft cape]

i'll add name tag support later on, just wanna get the mod to a stable enough point first (which seems like it is rn, if the mismatch issue was indeed caused by MEO)

[deft cape]

nah it's all good i just need to look at the decompiled codebase some more, just prioritizing other things for now, especially since spawn control mods already exist

so for now once i'm certain mirage is at a stable enough point, i'm gonna hold off from smaller changes while i work on a new feature

and then after that i'll look into adding the name tags, cosmetics (i.e. custom models api or w/e it's called), etc

[remote iris]

Looking forward to the feature of it being the bettermimic mod lol

Just the ai features from maskedaioverhaul left

[deft cape]

it's not something from another mod, but i'll hold off from announcing what it is until it's more certain that the feature can be executed properly

[remote iris]

@fading tusk this mod is fire you should def use it

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Coomfy/CoomfyDungeon/

Also barch sorry for using your thread/post as a place to recommend mods lol

[fading sapphire]

God I haven't used that mod since like v45, didn't find it all that balanced though, I recall going into Titan and getting about 900 value of loot out of a single room cause the generation was soo small, then when I had 3 players it was too big, how is it nowadays with all the custom Interiors and what not? Still weired by it cause it sort of detracts dungeon sizes to loot quantity for moon balancing

[remote iris]

I play with a small crew usually but for me it was fun the generation is big enough for us and the scrap can barely go over 300 maybe try configing it i cant check if u can do that rn since im on a trip

[inner idol]

i remember that mod was making dungeons way too linear and easy

so we was swimming in loot

[remote iris]

Maybe check for a config that will make it only make the dungeon bigger

That would be better since bigger crew

[fading sapphire]

Yeah exactly the experience I had, I guess it varies, whoever wants to scale Experimentation to like 2x and have the same loot density can with 4 players kek

[remote iris]

When i get back from my trip on saturday ill check

[whole rapids]

do you need skinwalkers with this mod

[inner idol]

no, it's a total replacement

[whole rapids]

oh okay

[inner idol]

but synced

so everyone hears the same

moreso, you can even hear "yourself"

[remote iris]

I once had a chat with "myself"

[inner idol]

you know what was funniest moment?

i had event with many outside spiders in brutal company minus

and all those spiders picked up same phrase from my friend

"who the fuck are you talking to?"

now imagine hearing it from all sides

we laughed to tears

[remote iris]

Lol

[patent nacelle]

Can't seem to find a concise answer... Is masked enemy overhaul useable or should I just skip that one

Just switching to mirage now

[inner idol]

only thing i miss is natural masked spawns from masked enemy overhaul

[patent nacelle]

welp perfect, off it goes then thankyou!

[inner idol]

i set SpawnOnPlayerDeath to 15% in mirage

so there's always a chance for any dead player to become mask

and also SpawnOnlyWhenPlayerAlone

so it doesn't happen obviously

that way i have masks running around from time to time, but not too much

perfect balance for me

[patent nacelle]

What about maybe an option to only spawn dead players if they were holding a mask on death

[inner idol]

i use this