General Improvements

[subtle mulch]

I really need to figure out how to do that deep profiling

[rain geyser]

that would be dope

[idle valve]

I loved the extra colors on the monitors, they definitely help read them better. I would also like the weather to have its own colors, kind of like the "CorporateRestructureWeather" mod does.
Maybe you could later set colors for all monitors and then give the option to enable extra colors on them or not, that would be great.

[rain geyser]

do you happen to know the monitor numbers of the whole left side?

or can you enable and disable them live with LethalConfig?

[idle valve]

GI has the option to enable them with "AddMoreBetterMonitors" and then use the respective numbers of those monitors to place whatever you want on them xd

[broken crescent]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ShaosilGaming/GeneralImprovements/wiki/1280-config-referenceextra-monitors/

This may help

[idle valve]

Oh oops, I didn't understand the question well. Sorry 💀

[rain geyser]

there's been reports that this can contribute to the vanilla inventory lock-up bug

oh wait

does this allow you to pickup scrap while in orbit?

[idle valve]

I remember GI wouldn't let me grab the masks, but TestAccountFixes does have an option that lets you grab everything anyway.

[rain geyser]

Yes this is the setting I was thinking of that increases chance for inventory lockup / desync

Also scrolling thru the hotbar faster

I saw the default for GI is 0.1

I set mine to 0.3

[sacred kelp]

I would also like the CorporateRestructureWeather aspect built in to this mod

[upper schooner]

In which way, specific weathers are colored specifically and listed on the top of the main monitor's description?

[sacred kelp]

Yeah

[outer crystal]

Im at 169 an runs fine for me.

[broken crescent]

Anyone else not able to sell anything if you set the limit to 999?

[rain geyser]

Yes

But it’s probably because my modpack is too hard so we keep dying before we get scrap back to the company, not because it’s set to 999

[broken crescent]

Hmm I'll have to debug that, someone opened a github issue about it

[subtle mulch]

Testing it rn in one of my test packs

[broken crescent]

oh THATS why

ha

so get this

The opcode for the command that checks for 12 items (I overwrite that number with the config option) is an ldc.i4.s... which means it goes from -128 to 127

So I assume assigning a value higher than that overflows to something negative

[subtle mulch]

Yeah I can't place anything on the sell counter 😂

[broken crescent]

just keep it <= 127 until I put a fix in 🤣 sorry

[rain geyser]

I was making a longwinded joke my bad

We can’t sell scrap cuz we don’t have scrap to sell funny haha hehe

[queen summit]

I wonder... What happens in big lobbies? Will it scroll?

[broken crescent]

I have it displaying 5 at a time, then it cycles through pages like the sales monitor

and shows PAGE N of M

[queen summit]

Sounds good :3

[broken crescent]

There's a bug with it where it doesn't show the correct player name when someone joins currently

But next time it updates it fixes itself

Also the text isn't perfectly aligned because it's not a monospaced font, which is bugging me

[queen summit]

It's not monospaced?

[rain geyser]

hey dad

my scanner shows TOTAL: 0 any time im not in the ship

i have everything scanner related in GI completely disabled

nodes, everything

im just using GoodItemScan

do you know the fix for this>

[queen summit]

Just permanently shows that?

[rain geyser]

any time im not in the ship ye

[queen summit]

While not having any scan nodes on screen?

[rain geyser]

no it shows the scan nodes of the scrap and proper value but total says 0

[queen summit]

Can we switch to #1255870550199242892?
Also, send me your log, please

[toxic summit]

i just noticed the masked changes, can this mod replace masked enemy overhaul fork? and is it compatible with mods like mirage?

[frigid bramble]

i mean if you're using mirage you don't really need MEOF

but yes they are compatible, as long as you set them the same way

[rain geyser]

Oh

I added GI and I don’t think mirage was working period

I’m honestly burnt out tho, idk if I will bother trying to fix it until v60

[hardy fable]

I use BetterItemScan instead

I like that mod

[narrow oriole]

isn't i4 a 4-byte integer in IL?

it should be a normal 32-bit integer

oh never mind, I guess the _s suffix makes the operand size smaller, I didn't think about that

sorry for the ping

[broken crescent]

Lol no worries. And yeah just another random thing to learn about IL 😅

I was kind of surprised it was such a big jump too, from 4 to 1 byte. Typically one step down or "short" would be int16

Honestly I'm also surprised I haven't run into this before with all the random integer changes I've made to operands that might have been i4.s

[narrow oriole]

yeah, I forget if there are any cases where I would expect to see this

I guess I haven't modified that many constants really

[little spire]

Do we have to use better monitors for the new health monitor option?

[broken crescent]

No, all monitors except custom ship camera positions work with all config settings

[little spire]

Yeah but if i had a lobby with 8+ people, right?

Would it break N not show everyone?

[broken crescent]

It will show 5 at a time and cycle pages

[little spire]

Really??

That's cool

Mmmm

[broken crescent]

😎

[little spire]

Would it be possible that if I add more monitors with the health thingy, it would act as different pages?

[broken crescent]

I don't have any of the monitors able to communicate with each other at the moment, and I didn't set up any paged monitors to force display a custom page, so that one isn't doable for now sorry

[little spire]

Aww

It's ok tho, im glad with how this one works

Thank you for your hard work, Smooooch

[broken crescent]

✌🏼

[low gyro]

yoo they just kissed 😳

[little spire]

It's on the cheek

[low gyro]

👍

[broken crescent]

Ayo

[low gyro]

exactly

[short frost]

Daym

[little spire]

Uuuuh @broken crescent
Monitor 8 = Player exact health

I don't think that's the player's health

Normal health seems to work

[broken crescent]

Hmm I didn't test it without better monitors, let me check if I made a wrong assignment

I also forgot to resize the font and stuff on those lol

[little spire]

Damn

[broken crescent]

I'll try to put a hotfix out today

There we go. I think in your first screenshot you might have just misspelled it because the PlayerHealthExact monitor seems to load for me. But I have one more bug to fix with this before deploying

[little spire]

I used gale thooooooooo

[broken crescent]

going live soon

[little spire]

Gale had the option where I could select it myself

Well either gale or lethal config

[broken crescent]

Yeah thats weird then, I would verify the config file itself has the correct value

If it still doesn't work after 1.3.6

[little spire]

Okieeeeee

[thin pecan]

General improve is spamming the console

[fast lintel]

yup

GI also gives error

[broken crescent]

Yeah I was disappointed with my mod yesterday, me and my friends played and found bugs with SyncMonitorSettingsFromHost (when OBC is active), the danger level monitor doesn't work at all for clients, the player health monitor doesn't trim enough long names, and the time monitor didn't initialize for one of the clients -_-

[thin pecan]

[rain geyser]

OBC?

[upper schooner]

Open Body Cams

[broken crescent]

OpenBodyCams was throwing an error when SyncFromHost was on, but it's probably because of something unexpected I'm doing

[low gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-emoji-meme-surprised-gif-14531710399995277313

[little spire]

Hmmmmmmm

[broken crescent]

Ok that's weird

It picked up the font change but it's setting the wrong text

Any error logs?

[little spire]

Uh

Imma try a different monitor N see if it's diff

Triple uuuuuuuuuuuh

(uuuuuuh)^3

[upper schooner]

Honey, I shrunk the font

[little spire]

Well at least the other one works

[broken crescent]

I don't see any errors that stand out but I also don't see any monitors updating except for the credits one, that sounds like something else may be preventing something from running

Just a hunch, you could see if disabling PizzaTowerEscapeMusic fixes it? It doesn't look like it's causing issues with my stuff but there are some errors around that time

[little spire]

Nope

Will say tho, when I use the big monitor with it and better monitor, it works on there

Small monitor would still be broken tho

Actually, hold on, Imma test this on its own with my configs

@broken crescent Uh boss

It's not a mod incompat

Here's my config file

[broken crescent]

Ok how about this, I won't be able to check it for a while but if you send me your profile code I'll try to repro it when I'm available

[little spire]

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For the time being Imma mess with better monitors

Oh yeah btw, I was gonna ask for a "Players alive count" monitor option

Like it would say "Alive players:5/6"

Thought it would look nice on the small monitors and stuff

Huh

I guess it also doesn't work here

OH, Do i need both player healths for the feature to work??

[broken crescent]

You shouldn't, but that could be a case I didn't test

It's possible I always tested with them both active lol

[rain geyser]

My Player Health monitor worked fine 🤔

The rough estimate setting

[finite bough]

I might be dumb, but why can I not get the extra monitors up?

nevermind i'm dumb lol

[frigid bramble]

friends were getting some visual desync on that 2nd row 3rd column monitor (left is theirs, right is mine). it should be time instead of that quota monitor

[light girder]

That would mean the config is mismatched

[frigid bramble]

it's not

[light girder]

It is, my group hasn't had any issues

Could be an older monitor layout you used

and they never updated

syncing monitors from the host also isn't really a guaranteed to work setting

[frigid bramble]

it's just not though. we synced with a modpack code several times last night. i haven't changed the monitor layout in months. that also wouldn't explain why the second quota monitor on their screens are incorrect either

[light girder]

if they were using that

🤷‍♀️

It's probably an issue with another mod

[sour rain]

quota: $0/$509 is the default monitor text

so it seems like for some reason or another the monitor's text just isn't getting updated at all

[frigid bramble]

wdym by default

[sour rain]

before the monitor gets updated to show the actual profit quota that's the text

so it seems like it's getting cloned to the other monitors and then just not changed at all afterwards

[frigid bramble]

huh

i'll do some lan testing later to see if i can get it to show up there

apparently at some point throughout the run it fixed itself, but i'm not sure when exactly, or it not updating could've been a fluke from the get-go

[tawny gyro]

while reporting an issue from another mod, @short frost noticed an error with the Danger screen

[broken crescent]

I need to rework the last couple monitor types I added, they have a ton of bugs currently. Good to know though, I thought I took care of that particular one

[tawny gyro]

didnt really affect me (i think), but still, just delivering the message

[finite bough]

I have a question, but might not be the right mod. I added open body cams and was wondering how do I get the better quality to the monitors for the cameras?

[finite bough]

Example to my question, that camera there is perfect quality.

[broken crescent]

There are resolution multiplier settings for the internal and external ship cams under GI's ExtraMonitors config section.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ShaosilGaming/GeneralImprovements/wiki/1280-config-referenceextra-monitors/

[potent hedge]

If you are referring to the openbodycams cam you need to change the horizontal resolution in the open body cam config

[thin pecan]

Setting starting credits doesn't work

Still have 30

[frigid bramble]

any errors in log

[thin pecan]

Nope

I don't believe I have any other credit altering mods either

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[frigid bramble]

probably not much more you can do other than disable chunks of mods until it starts working

[tawny sapphire]

I noticed since one of the recent updates the color for some texts on the monitors changed. Like credits and scrap on ship.
I assume this is GI..? Is there a config to turn that off?
I use a custom color for the general text and I think that config is not very useful now because most colors but green and white will look weird next to the new other ones. So being able to turn those off or setting them manually would be great.

[frigid bramble]

i noticed that too, and i agree

[finite bough]

What do you recommend I change it too?

[potent hedge]

umm 320 should be fine

[finite bough]

Awesome thank you!

[thin pecan]

Removing names doesn't work

above player heads

[frigid bramble]

it works if you're not in the ship

[thin pecan]

Oooh, I see

I was in ship, thanks

I have some more bug reports though

[verbal saddle]

Hi guys! I have a question, will the General Improvement Mod conflict with the Mirage Mod's Mask Entity settings?

[fleet thistle]

Nopr

[fleet thistle]

And if it does, you can just disable the settings that affect the masked in the config

[verbal saddle]

Just tested it, they work perfectly together

but i notice one things, the minimum credit on first day is not working with advanced company credit setting

[finite bough]

So I ended up changing my Bodycams res to 1080 lmfao and it still doesn't give that perfect quality monitor like I see others have in their screen shots.

[outer crystal]

Hey I wanted to pop in. Had an idea for a dumb; maybe simple" compatibility option for your GI mod. Have a selector for disabling the More Company logo on main menu. Dumb an pointless. but somethin I thought of. Feel free to use or ignire, lol.

OH! Another one. Maybe look into a menu option for More company that accesses the cosmetics options while "in game" like how Advanced Company used to do before it shut down.

[slow flicker]

Do you recommend setting them to match mirage, or leaving them at defaults?

I keep getting weird masked behavior and don’t know why lol

It’s something that neither of the two should cause, some masks being unable to kill anyone

Have a clip of a mask standing on top of two players for a solid 10 seconds (they didn’t realize it was one) without killing them and I’m not sure why

[frigid bramble]

leave the ones you aren't using off

it seems kinda counterintuitive, but if you set one and disable the other, it won't run the masked patches while the other one will, so you end up with only one mod patching the masked animations which is what you want

[onyx vine]

Yeah I really hope GI gets a global "masked tweaks" toggle so I can just turn that off and make sure Mirage is working well

[frigid bramble]

all you have to do is this if you're using Mirage

[light girder]

Should be this

[onyx vine]

yeah like, the default state should be GI not touching masks at all

(I personally don't like the masked stuff being in GI at all, but)

[broken crescent]

Like many of my other options, leaving things at their default should ensure no code of that nature is touched

[frigid bramble]

so this is correct. besides the spinning thing, which is true by default

[onyx vine]

don't masks spin in vanilla?

so that should be on for it to be default

[light girder]

It's more fun to have them not spin

As it adds to the gameplay to make them less obvious

[umbral ermine]

Thats also a General Improvement 👀

[light girder]

Mhm

[light girder]

Plus you said you wanted the settings changed for compat with Mirage so I listed how it should be setup for that

[onyx vine]

but shoasil said that that's not how it should be

it should be the default settings

[proven moth]

^

[light girder]

Yeah but I changed it to be that way ages ago, just to ensure nothing overwrites Mirage's stuff

The way it works may have been changed since

[proven moth]

It was never changed

Masked entities reach towards player and Masked entities wear masks in GeneralImprovements being turned to false makes GI remove the zombie arms and the mask

[outer crystal]

Ya set reach to disabled, and wear mask disabled, and enable wear cosmetics and suit, those plus enable show a nameplate.... its pure chaos. I LOVE IT! 😄

[outer crystal]

then when your friends ask if its you. say ya here lemme walk towards ya..... hehehehe.

[outer crystal]

OOOooo!!! New idea for General Improvements. Not sure how hard this would be. But have sounds at doors! maybe have any sounds played near the interior doors be copied via the mimics copy of audio an played on a slight delay as muffled sounds outside the exterior doors. So we can tell by the sounds if friends or enemies are near the doors.

[outer crystal]

Question. I wanted to ask if these following Fix mods were still needed with General Improvements installed...

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ButteryStancakes/WeedKillerFixes/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/essie/SoberShip/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/PureFPSZac/NestFix/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ButteryStancakes/ButteryFixes/

I wasnt sure if these had been addressed in the GI build or the v56 update. As I was looking to add them to my modlist if they were still needed to correct problems in game.

Hope someone can let me know. Thanks ahead of time to whomever spots this an responds.

[onyx vine]

yes all of these are needed

GI doesn't fix any of these

ButteryFixes has some overlap with GI, but BF handles compatibility for that seamlessly

[cloud gate]

if u have GI and BF, turn off fire exit fix on one of them 😂

[onyx vine]

oh yeah, you will need to manually do that

[outer crystal]

Thank you!

[outer crystal]

SO assuming the fire exit flip mod is irrelivant with Buttery fixes installed?

[cloud gate]

yes

[outer crystal]

Question.

When using General Improvments to give mimics nameplates, removing the arms reaching out, an removign the mask. Should I use Mirage? Or Optimized skinwalkers with GI? Never tried Mirage. So not sure how comaptible it is with GI ... or if its even better than Optimized skinwalkers.

If anyones used GI an either, or tried both of those. Please share some info on which is recommended for compatibility.... or which is just better in your opinnion.

[cloud gate]

im using both without the nameplates,
all masked setting in GI is none and False and nothing breaks somehow

[outer crystal]

Both Optimized skinwalkers AND Mirage? doesnt that conflict heavily?

[cloud gate]

no i mean mirage and GI

[outer crystal]

OH!

How is the audio mimicing with Mirage? My only experience so far is with Optimized skinwalkers.

Tryin to find out which is better.

[cloud gate]

its good, since default setting is only applied voice to masked

and people will hear the same voice

idk if optimized skinwalker fixed the different voiceline or not

by same i mean 2 or more player will hear the exact clip and not 2 different clip at the same time

[outer crystal]

Sadly not have my group online in a month or two to play LC with my modpack with people. So I need to ask some questions when I get the chance to play my modpack with others.

As I know from experience some bugs an problems will only appear to others in a session, an not to the host. So far, all my current v56 testing is for solo. I need to find some new people to play LC with.

[cloud gate]

u can copy your current profile to the lethal.exe directory and play LAN to test i think

launch the game both from mod manager and the lethal folder

[outer crystal]

Hmm, no lethal config compatibility for Mirage?

...ugh.. nm. It does. I missed it as it wasnt labeled as Mirage. Was labeled as Qbarch.Mirage.

[tropic saddle]

imo (maybe its just cuz i dont like getting tons of mods) most of the fixes in those mods are very insignificant, and solve issues that only rarely happen. the only fix mods i use are GI, JumpDelayPatch, and lcmaxsoundsfix. and actually i didnt even get GI for the fixes initially, i just wanted to be able to display the time on a monitor.

[upper schooner]

I just had a dumb but silly thought

So if you have the fire exit flip on for GI AND BF, it flips you twice so you end up looking at the fire exit again. With the standalone fire exit flip mod in the mix, does it flip you a third time so you're facing away from the fire exit?

While yes it should be removed at this point due to redundancy, I just had this thought that since having 2 solutions to the same problem cancels out the solution, if the 3rd will still yield the solution

[tropic saddle]

no dont remove it. a lot of people prob only have GI. and the people who have both literally just have to turn it off in the config lol

[upper schooner]

I'm referring to the standalone fire exit flip mod being removed due to redundancy since GI and BF both do it already. I just had one of those moments of thinking of what would happen of a scenario of something that shouldn't be done

[tropic saddle]

oh i see

[upper schooner]

Like having 3 solutions to fix the fire exit flip enabled at the same time is sheer overkill when you only need 1 to do it

[thin pecan]

What's BF?

[upper schooner]

ButteryFixes, ie this:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ButteryStancakes/ButteryFixes/

[tropic saddle]

if anybody cares heres the modpack i use in vanilla lobbies: 0191148e-cc73-37c8-544c-541d15ac33f9

i have the fixes i mentioned but also a lot of optimization mods

[broken crescent]

Sorry folks I have done zero coding for GI lately, got my steering rig set up because the sim racing bug bit me

When I do work on it though I plan to rework the danger level and player health monitors because they are BROKEN at the moment. But I also might look into those dumb weeds (mold). I have a couple ideas for those, because they get so out of control when QuotaRollover is enabled.

I might

1. Add an option to have them STAY destroyed when you spray them, and not respawn

2. Allow the iteration growth rate to be adjusted, so you could specify 3 days or whatever instead of 1 (default, results in nearly exponential growth)

I've been holding off also because I think there's a chance Zeekers may fix some things about the fox and weeds in v60, and I'd hate to do extra work for no reason 😛

[upper schooner]

Fair and it looks like Zeekers pushed back the release of v60 by another week

[broken crescent]

Not to be overly critical but that GenerateMold function is... Special. It's been very difficult for me to read even though it isn't very large. There's several lists and variables that don't have clear meaning, 3 nested loops, unexpected randomization and juggling of which mold spores are created or destroyed.. it's kind of a mess

Compared to most of his other code

[narrow oriole]

I may be wrong, but I think the growth actually isn't exponential

[broken crescent]

No, it isn't

But it feels like it with all the branching and nested loops

[narrow oriole]

oh right, yeah

agreed

I wrote a python script to plot the distribution of individual plant counts per day if you want to have a look at that

[broken crescent]

My friends and I always use QuotaRollover and they get completely out of control by quota 6+

Oh cool

[narrow oriole]

just gotta remember where I stored it

[subtle mulch]

That's a big part of why I haven't fixed mold spawning in walls and stuff with NestFix😅 Hoping Zeekers improves it

[narrow oriole]

It's got some keybinds:

• space: toggle between including the initial spawn count randomization
• left/right: decrement/increment the day

[onyx vine]

You should have seen the NoFox saga

that mod took so many tries to get working

mold is... very special indeed

[thin pecan]

What's mold?

[narrow oriole]

the internal name for weeds

[tawny gyro]

i feel like Zeekerss rolled his face across his keyboard to code it so that nobody could figure out how it works; not even him

[upper schooner]

Sounds like it by the reports of what I hear about the code

[sour rain]

generatemold runs clientside

[rough salmon]

😭

[sour rain]

it will cause desync if any players have mods that modify it

and they don't all use the same mods and same settings

i feel like it is out of scope for it to be included in this mod as settings

with those stipulations

just imo

[frigid bramble]

this mod already has host-only settings doesn't it

[sour rain]

yeah but host only settings are one thing

[sour rain]

weeds will desync unless this is the case

right now the only all clients setting in generalimprovements IIRC is the medkit

everything else is either client side or host only

also on a loosely related note

1. Add an option to have them STAY destroyed when you spray them, and not respawn
   this is already vanilla's behavior (although it might be bugged in some cases)

[frigid bramble]

this mod already has config syncing doesnt it? could just do that

i just sent basically the same message twice in a row without realizing it 😭

[broken crescent]

In my experience, every time we spend half a day destroying every possible weed we have time for (sometimes 20+), every one of them comes back the next day

[granite patrol]

yeah

I made a mod idea for this so glad someone's doing it

would rather it be a standalone but I'll take what I can get

[granite patrol]

if it's an intended vanilla behavior it is 100% bugged cuz even if I kill ALL shrouds they all just come back :(

[rough salmon]

😔 😭

[finite bough]

[Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
GeneralImprovements.Utilities.MonitorsHelper.UpdateDangerLevelMonitors (System.Single totalMaxPower, System.Single totalCurrentPower) (at <2fbcab78f0514923be01e0459a5c3c70>:IL_00A6)
GeneralImprovements.Patches.RoundManagerPatch.RoundLevelPowerChanged (RoundManager __instance) (at <2fbcab78f0514923be01e0459a5c3c70>:IL_001D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) EnemyAI.DMDEnemyAI::SubtractFromPowerLevel(EnemyAI)
EnemyAI.OnDestroy () (at <0b5b829887344817a21214132ea92eef>:IL_0029)

Got a GI error. Not sure exactly whats going on. Randomly i'll hear the pop from sellbodies confetti addon and this error pops. the confetti pop is suppose to be a signal an enemy died.

[broken crescent]

It's related to the new danger level monitors. I plan on giving them a rework soon 👍🏼

[finite bough]

ah gotcha thanks.

If I turn that monitor off will it still drop the error?

[broken crescent]

That would hopefully fix it lol. Not 100% sure though

[polar frost]

are there mods that arent compatable with this one?

[polar frost]

whats obc?

nvm

[sour rain]

@broken crescent the scrap on ship monitor doesnt update when you attach the truck to the ship

just a new v56 use case to account for

[quiet sable]

wait, I havent seen any config option for GI to show a ship total when you scan, am I missing something? I'd love to get rid of another mod

[sour rain]

set one of the monitors to display "ScrapOnShip"

[quiet sable]

oh a monitor

hmm

I wonder if I have room

Also -

Wait,a re you the GI dev?

XD Was about to ask you if you'd consider adding something like you're the one devving GI but I dont actually know if you are or not

[sour rain]

no, im not, that would be Shaosil

the thread's OP

[quiet sable]

XD ok. Well, Ill just post it here incase they see,

I am curious what the likelyhood of GI adding a "moon cost" section to their improvements. I've been struggling to find a moon cost mod that actually works properly, and whenever GI does something they always seem to do it right, XD

[broken crescent]

That should already be an option somewhere

I forget what it's called offhand

[quiet sable]

its not, I've scrolled through every config option

[broken crescent]

Terminal/ShowMoonPricesInTerminal?

[quiet sable]

?

that just shows the prices

oh, maybe I didnt explain properly, I meant a config for changing the prices of moon transit

[broken crescent]

Ah gotcha, yeah nothing like that currently, no plans to at the moment but we'll see

[quiet sable]

Thats fair, I just cannot find a mod that does that and actually works, its so infuriating

the one im currently usingh doesnt work for the 2 hidden moons

[tropic saddle]

advanced comp has that

you cant get it on thunderstore tho

[cloud gate]

LLL can do that no, changing prices of routing

[tropic saddle]

that doesnt mess with custom scrap like wesleys tho? i thought it did

[cloud gate]

?
dont they just need moon price, whats with the custom scrap

[tropic saddle]

yea but i thought configuring anything about a moon in LLL breaks wesleys scrap

[cloud gate]

idk last time i changed stuff for custom interior and moonprice in junic their scrap still there

[tropic saddle]

maybe i wrong then'

[cloud gate]

but that was like before v1.3.0 and above i could be wrong

i can do a quick test tho

[quiet sable]

if it does, then I dont wanna do that, but if it doesnt then that would definitely be the solution

[tropic saddle]

in my experience all wesley scrap becomes dice with the name "???"

after tweaking lll moon config

[cloud gate]

oh wow it does break

for my case theres no scrap at all lol (except keys)

[quiet sable]

so using LLL to set moon prices to 0 is a no go

ughhh

[cloud gate]

try uhh #1213985212686532638

[quiet sable]

wait, just to clarify, are you saying that Wesleys moons also cost money to go to?

[cloud gate]

yea most of them are paid moons

i think its only asteroid that are free

[quiet sable]

=T

i wonder if that mod about "unlocking" moons does the same thing to wesleys' scrap

can you test that Arterra? do you even know what mod im talking about lol

[cloud gate]

does this not work

oh wait it work

for wesleys moons at least

and the scraps didnt broke too

[upper schooner]

There's also this one that gives you a bit of customization wiggle room regarding paid moons:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/explodingMods/LethalMoonUnlocks/

[broken crescent]

Good thing I haven't put too much time into this 😄 Other than 20-30 minutes looking over the mold spread code

[queen summit]

Noooooo ;-;

(I'm probably the only one who kinda liked it)

[short frost]

I liked kidnapper fox too :<

[broken crescent]

I would like it too if it wasn't for the fact that:

1. It grows far too fast once you get past 4-5 quotas

2. The weeds do not usually stay destroyed once you spray them, making it practically useless the following day

3. The weeds often grow close to the ship allowing the fox to spawn camp

4. Even if the weed spray worked correctly, it's per moon, meaning you can spend a bunch of time managing weeds on one moon but when you go to the next, it's overrun

5. The fox is hard to kill

It has potential but right now is just not fun unless you play for memes alone

[queen summit]

I agree with point 2 and 3 😅

[broken crescent]

2 and 3 are my main gripes. If the weeds were manageable I'd accept it. #1 is kinda annoying when you play with quota rollover though since we often reach quota 10+, and by then.. heh

weed city

[short frost]

Yeah I feel like if he can fix 2 and 3 itll be really golden

[proven moth]

#1 kind of a user issue tbpf

[short frost]

4 is debatably the next big "gripe", but its only noticeable when really high quota

[broken crescent]

Yeah 1 and 4 only really show up with QuotaRollover enabled

[proven moth]

nah 4 happens in vanilla iirc

[broken crescent]

Sure but it's not a huge problem unless they start to get overgrown, which doesn't really happen until much later quotas

[proven moth]

fair

[light girder]

I also love the fox

But the vain shrouds are very broken in how they work right now

[narrow oriole]

for point 1, does it really increase the growth speed based on the quota? I didn't notice that in the code, and if that's the case, my python script is incorrect

[light girder]

They seem to just be entirely random unfortunately

Some moons will spawn a ton, others will spawn none

Others will spawn a way lower amount

[narrow oriole]

that's separate, the way that works is there's a very low chance of the weeds starting to spawn on each moon every day

once it's decided that they will spawn, it places 1-3 days of growth

but before that, there will be nothing

[broken crescent]

Not per quota, but daily. So I use quotas as a common measurement

[upper schooner]

In the console it actually mentions at the end of the round the mold growth progress per day so you can somewhat monitor what it looks like on other moons

When I was trying out that WeedKillerAdjustments(?) mod I was keeping an eye on to see which moons where just bozo'd by bushes

In my case it was March & Embrion

[narrow oriole]

but your point is that the growth speed increases? that would imply some sort of exponential growth wouldn't it?

[broken crescent]

Ah no, so there's an "iterations" number that increments by 1 every day. But then the generateMold function has that as a while loop, inside of which is another loop that handles random branches, inside of which is another loop that handles I forget what. So it appears almost exponential after a large number of days, even though it isn't

[narrow oriole]

ah, yeah

I guess I just misread your first point then, but I'm not sure how to read it exactly

maybe you mean it grows too fast across all moons to be controlled?

(which I would definitely agree with lol)

[broken crescent]

Basically yeah, the longer we play a single run, the more weeds pop up to the point where they cover half the map and the fox harasses the heck out of everyone

[light girder]

I would prefer the vain shroud system be removed entirely and the fox work without it

The Vain Shrouds cause a ton of performance issues when they spawn in an abundance til you deal with them

They suck

[narrow oriole]

I just feel like it needs to have a limit on the number of active weeds

[light girder]

Probably

[narrow oriole]

at least as far as performance and visibility goes

[light girder]

but the places they can spawn also needs reworked

[narrow oriole]

yeah

[light girder]

They spawn in unreachable locations sometimes

[narrow oriole]

spawning them at the same rate across all moons after a certain point is just not playable

unless the fox becomes easier to kill

I found that using the stun gun on it is pretty effective for killing it but you still have to find it in all the weeds

[broken crescent]

See these are all great points lol. The fox is fine but it needs a big rework

[short frost]

I mean, in terms of performance I don't see the weeds posing a problem, they can easily be low poly and have LOD stuff attached

I add 2k+ flowers to the game as hazards on the outside everytime a player lands and cause 0 issues there

[narrow oriole]

2k objects? wow

as long as they're instanced, I guess

also @broken crescent just so you're aware, patterns like this will cause the runtime to look up the DropAllHeldItems method repeatedly as it linearly scans the instructions

[light girder]

Yeah but Zeekerss isn't as good at optimizations

[narrow oriole]

it would probably be best to cache a field or method you're looking for before scanning for it

[light girder]

We know this

[narrow oriole]

I wouldn't say that's the case necessarily, we don't know that he's trying to do that yet

That said, he does need to be more thorough about taking out debug spam

[light girder]

Yeah

[narrow oriole]

the interiors themselves perform very well compared to the average modded interior

[light girder]

I just hope V60 is gonna drop before Saturday

[narrow oriole]

CullFactory improves things by like 20% max for vanilla interiors, where for modded ones it can be as much as 100% I think

[light girder]

I would prefer it drop in the next couple of days so mods that need to update can do so

lol

[narrow oriole]

wait, why would they not be able to update whenever it comes out?

[light girder]

Oh I'm planning my 400 follower special stream to be on Saturday XD

So I would prefer V60 drop before that

[narrow oriole]

ah

[short frost]

Takes about 100ms, not as much as I'd expected initially, also took 2ms to go through 10k~ gameobjects

[narrow oriole]

100ms to instantiate them? I was thinking of rendering time

[short frost]

Yeah to instantiate 100ms, in terms of rendering etc I havent seen too many issues but they are insanely low poly (100 tris etc iirc) and have LOD culling

[narrow oriole]

gotcha

not sure how instancing interacts with LOD, but if you have it set up to use instancing then rendering probably is pretty negligible

unsure if the weeds are using it, I should probably try to check that

[short frost]

Not 100% sure on whay u mean by instancing tbh, I instantiate them and they sound like similar words so I assume that

[narrow oriole]

instancing is where the geometry is uploaded to the GPU as once "instance", and then a batch rendering call provides the information necessary to duplicate the geometry across multiple transforms

it's used to reduce draw calls

[short frost]

yeah um considering i have 160 flowers duplicate themselves like 20 to 50 times each moon landing, it sounds like that would be pretty helpful, how exactly would i purposefully do this? lmao

[narrow oriole]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/GPUInstancing.html

[short frost]

ah, it literally is just a toggle

[narrow oriole]

Looks like it recommends against using this for instances that have less than 256 vertices, though. You mention you have 160 flowers though, are those in fixed positions in a group? those could be merged into one mesh to allow it to be instanced more efficiently

[short frost]

https://github.com/XuuXiao/CodeRebirth/blob/main/Plugin/src/Patches/RoundManagerPatch.cs#L67C5-L100C6 nah i kinda just pick random positions

[narrow oriole]

ah, gotcha

then it might be trickier to make use of this

[short frost]

yeah, ill give the vertices another look and see if unity recommends it or not

lol

[narrow oriole]

I wonder if you should use static batching for that then https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/static-batching.html

[short frost]

seems possible

[slow flicker]

I have changed the max and min scrap spawn rates plenty in LLL and Wesley’s scrap spawns fine

[light girder]

@broken crescent just a bug I noticed to report

The hide chat feature doesn't seem to hide the chat again after entering and closing the terminal

[polar frost]

Why does this mod sometimes just reset all of my settings 😦 (after crashing the game once or twice)

and why does it crash in the 1st place (when starting up the game)

[ivory pivot]

post a logfile, a modlist or something that can help figure out the issue.
Like if you have a bunch of custom songs it's going to eat your ram, and I've never had this happen even though I've used the mod since I first saw it on TS

and since this is most likely not an issue with GI #help-and-troubleshooting or #1185732310700654732 is a better place

[quiet sable]

wait wait wait wait

weeds are persistant between days??

[ivory pivot]

||the more you land the more they spawn||

[sour rain]

no, weed growth is independent of player actions

it is always happening everywhere

landing on certain moons and having certain amounts of money makes them more likely to start growing but once growth starts it is a fixed rate

[narrow oriole]

a fixed rate per day (landing), so in some sense their phrasing is correct

[sour rain]

i suppose so

[quiet sable]

yeah I did all the reserch on weeds and foxes now so I know exactly hoiw the work, its super interesting stuff!

for clarification tho, I believe literally only embrion cares about the money you have

[sour rain]

every moon except for titan adjusts its rate based on group credits
rend, dine, and artifice adjust their rates based on group credits + where the ship is orbiting

[quiet sable]

that definitely doesnt reflect what I've seen

[sour rain]

it's what's written into the code of the game

if (this.levels[i] == this.currentLevel)
{
    num = 0.1f;
}
else if (terminal.groupCredits < 200 && this.levels[i].levelID == 12)
{
    num = 0.075f;
}
else if ((float)terminal.groupCredits < 500f && (this.levels[i].levelID == 7 || this.levels[i].levelID == 6 || this.levels[i].levelID >= 10) && (this.currentLevel.levelID == 5 || this.currentLevel.levelID == 8 || this.currentLevel.levelID == 4 || this.currentLevel.levelID <= 2))
{
    num = 0.04f;
}
else
{
    num = 0.07f;
}
if (random.Next(0, 100) <= (int)(num * 100f))
{
    this.levels[i].moldSpreadIterations += random.Next(1, 3);
}

this chunk here

anyways, level 7 is Dine, 6 is Rend, 10 is Artifice, 11 is Liquidation, 5 is Adamance, 8 is Offense, 4 is March, 2 is Vow, 1 is Assurance, and 0 is Experimentation

if:

• the group has less than 500 credits
• the iterator is currently on Dine, Rend, Artifice, or Liquidation
• the player's ship is currently orbiting Adamance, Offense, March, Vow, Assurance, or Experimentation
  the chance will be 4%, otherwise it will be 7%

i misread this code before and thought it applied to every moon, but it seems instead like the intent here is for the paid moons to be less likely to spawn shrouds as long as you are in the earlygame (few credits and only orbiting free moons)

[strange wraith]

Why disabled in v60? Shouldn't it be disabled sooner (such as v57), and fixed by v60?

[polar frost]

because v60 is the next update for some reason

[strange wraith]

so... the next version is gonna be a major one, or...?

[polar frost]

pretty much

[frigid bramble]

v60 is right around the corner

like literally within days. potentially today

[strange wraith]

okay, good to know

[onyx vine]

yeah zeekers just skips updates

since I started playing we went 45 -> 49 -> 50 -> 56

and now -> 60

assumedly tomorrow, I doubt he'd release this late

[frigid bramble]

actually ☝️ 🤓
it went 45 > 47 > 48 > 49 > 50 > 55 > 56

his scheme is small update > +1, big update > +5 and round to the nearest 5 or 10

[rain geyser]

Marketing tactic to make ppl think there’s oodles of new content

[light girder]

@broken crescent whenever you update the mod again, might be worth looking into why the mod is lowering the performance inside the ship. I have BetterMonitors off and everything and there's still a noticeable performance hit with the mod enabled compared to disabled

[ivory pivot]

could it be one of the improvement toggles causing it? like auto charge in orbit, hide cabinet doors, save item rotation or save furniture places?

[broken crescent]

Hmm ok

[frigid bramble]

@broken crescent what do you think about a monitor to display the company's buying rate? would be kinda useless in vanilla but i think it would go really well with a mod like https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MoonJuice/BuyRateSettings/

[broken crescent]

Funny enough that's on my todo-eventually list 😄

[frigid bramble]

awesome lol, hope to see it soon

[quiet sable]

Save Furniture Places is bugged for me, it doesnt actually save the furniture places, and when a run restarts I cant move any of the furniture that I put in storage the previous run until i go to the terminal and ask it to take the furniture out of the storage, even tho the furniture is very clearly still in the ship

[frigid bramble]

i've experienced this too but not sure if it was this mod

[light girder]

It's possible tbh

Idk

[ivory pivot]

I know you run the furniturelock mod, could be an incompatibility between the two mods? I haven't noticed a lot myself even though I have the same mods and haven't had the furniture lock for long enough, I added it after seeing how nice it was on your stream

[light girder]

Nah

Prolly not

[hardy fable]

Was there an announcement?

[idle valve]

Yes pls

[tiny sigil]

under the start up section of configs can we get one to disable the "some of your save files are incompatible with v55 and will be corrupted if you play them" message

i get this all the time (possibly due to hte better saves mod) but its just annoying

[cloud gate]

i dont have bettersave but since i changed the mods alot i just kinda have it everytime lol

[broken crescent]

I find that happens to me if I start a new save and don't quit the game properly, which would normally allow the game to save more info. It will still load it, but gives that message. That might be a different scenario though

[tiny sigil]

regardless an option to disable it like the news popups would be nice :3

[solemn steppe]

Been awhile since I played and now Idk what I did wrong since I can’t see the external cam on monitor 13

[hardy fable]

Try a new save and see if it has something to do with that

[neat stone]

Using open body cams?

[solemn steppe]

Yea

[tiny sigil]

i encountered a bug where sometimes the clock monitor will just display "monitor #" for late joiners until the ship lands

[solemn steppe]

Tho I have it on the 14th monitor for the body cam

[light girder]

@broken crescent Any chance you could add a config option to disable the patch in GI for collecting dead bodies automatically? As much as I like the feature there's too many times where it just causes the ui to bug out and get stuck doing the audio of trying to collect an item

[finite bough]

That bug is so annoying. I've got a strict no teleporting corpses now or you will join them rule.

Also I'm confused my GI doesn't auto tp corpses???!!! You sure there isn't a config for it?

[sour rain]

they mean the thing where the UI says "Body collected" immediately after warping

in vanilla you have to teleport the body, pick it up, and then drop it again

[finite bough]

Oh! Wait so is that why the bug happens?

I thought there was a feature that was auto teleporting corpses back and I missed it.

[sour rain]

i dunno

im not sure what issue is being referred to in specific

[cloud gate]

Thats interesting cuz i never encounter the scrap collecting ui/audio bug 🤔
The only bug i ever have with teleporting bodies are when they just cant be grabbed for the rest of that day

[light girder]

Usually happens when someone teleports someone and swaps to a masked enemy before the teleport finishes

Lmfao

[neat stone]

Same I thought that was because of model API

[ivory pivot]

Wait it was GI?! I forgot it had that feature

[finite bough]

Yeah I'm hoping this is the answer finally. Because I've put a ban on teleporting corpses until we figured it out.

[short frost]

anyone know if generalimprovements is okay to have? not caring too much about performance just bugs in general

[neat stone]

It has been good for me. Just haven’t tried v60 yet

[onyx vine]

unsure about v60 yeah

on 56 it was fine as long as you didn't mind the performance (mainly in ship)

[neat stone]

The main thing with GI currently, that I have noticed, is slight performance dip inside the ship by the terminals. Not much though

[short frost]

gotcha okie ty

[frigid bramble]

seems fine on v60 so far. i recommend it

[outer crystal]

Feature request. Add a button for cosmetics menu in game when on the ship. Annoying always having to exit now that we lost Advance company

[ivory pivot]

wrong thread, but MoreCompany dev is working on that iirc

[cosmic mirage]

I'd love to be able to lock doors with keys and still keep them with your function besides using door Malfunctions where the key CAN be eaten/broken by the door!

[real steeple]

If I'm not mistaken, Advance Company allowed you to change cosmetics in the pause menu.

[cloud gate]

Theyre saying we need alternative other than AC for said feature

[light girder]

The BeamUpPlayer patch for the Teleporters is rather unstable and tends to randomly break for some reason otherwise the mod is okay imo

I hope @broken crescent Will add a config option to disable it tbh

[neat stone]

Any idea if this is why inverse teleporter makes enemies invisible sometimes? It seems to happen with no mods at all, is it a vanilla bug? I don’t even use the inverse teleporter at all because there’s like a 50% all enemies will be invisible

[finite bough]

Potential Bug. The Save Furniture Option caused a desync while I was testing with someone. The furniture did not save for me on a fresh save, but the person who loaded it saw the furniture where I usually have it placed. After we were soft locked and could not land the ship.

Save Furniture Option = Potentially Broken.

[sour rain]

im pretty sure something about that furniture setting breaks the game even if it's disabled

because we get this bug where the inverse teleporter's position desyncs for every player and stops working until the game is reloaded after it's put into storage once

and it only occurs when we have generalimprovements enabled

we dont use any of the furniture settings

[finite bough]

interesting. so I have to remove GI all together to prevent this bug 😦

[finite bough]

does this also soft lock you and prevent you from landing?

[sour rain]

no, i have not encountered that before

[light girder]

Had the same issue with the normal Teleporter, they become unusuable but clients can see the bodies get teleported and pick them up

[sour rain]

you might want to post your log

[light girder]

GI is just very unstable atm

😦

[frigid bramble]

i used to get this, but not anymore, and it didn't softlock our game

that sounds like a separate issue

[finite bough]

more likely a conflict with another mod but also GI. I've done lots of testing through my mod pack and can not get anything in the logs either to show whats causing it.

Possibly with Late Join cause the player late joined and it desynced

[frigid bramble]

if you're able to repro it with just GI then it should be easy, but otherwise you'll need to do some troubleshooting

[finite bough]

I was trying to recreate it with a different mod, but ended up encountering it by complete chance and accident and after turning off the setting we are no longer experiencing the soft locking.

[ivory pivot]

Yeah I'm about to chuck GI out of the pack and install 5 individual mods, as some of the GI stuff does not seem to work/work correct

[neat stone]

I have this bug as well. Could it be a conflict with smart item save?

Speaking of should smart item save even be in my modpack any
more?

[finite bough]

I do not have that one. I think it was a Latecompany conflict

[kind turret]

It got implemented into LLL last I recall, but it does have its own implementation of item rotation, so up to you if you use it for that specifically. If you use GI's, then you don't need it.

[light girder]

Yeah I'm gonna rechuck it too, I love the mod but Shaosil has went inactive again unfortunately

[ivory pivot]

Time to make a list of things I use of the mod

[broken crescent]

Yeah sorry folks I still lurk and read most of the messages, and play LC with my friends here and there but I've been using my free time on other stuff lately. I know performance is always an issue with some people but since I can't see it myself I haven't looked into any type of profiling.

What other major things don't work? I use the furniture save placement constantly and haven't seen an issue there.

I'll try to add a config option for what you guys are talking about above though when I get back to it

[light girder]

Don't worry we all got a lot of respect for you man, when you come back I think the mod could use some code cleanup and a stability patch :3

[broken crescent]

I agree but I'm not totally sure what to clean up lol

[light girder]

Lmao I'm sure @grand umbra has some suggestions

[frigid bramble]

@broken crescent just fyi i believe this is now officially patched in v62 so you're probably good to remove it whenever you get back to it

[broken crescent]

I noticed he said something about fixing that in the patch notes, I'll have to check if it's as extensive as mine 👍🏼 that would be nice

[outer crystal]

Did v62 break the games doors inside the interiors?

no doors will open for me now after the v62 update

[ivory pivot]

People in #1185732310700654732 have already made a thread, compare your mods to theirs and you should probably be able to find the cause, I've not encountered it

[outer crystal]

checked it. just modlist codes. with my connection would take hrs to download another modlist.

😦

[ivory pivot]

Also should keep stuff like this to #help-and-troubleshooting or #1185732310700654732 and not the GI thread

[outer crystal]

Appologies... bad part is, I thought I was in that tab. didnt click mouse hard enough AND didnt look, lol. Again, my bad.

[light girder]

@ivory pivot Turns out it was LethalElements breaking teleporters btw

[cloud gate]

so its not GI all along ?

🤔

[light girder]

Idk if GI might also do it but in my case GI wasn't causing the teleporters to randomly stop tping bodies

It might still break Inverse Teleporters though, idk

[finite bough]

I've had no issues with GI and inverse.

[light girder]

Someone was recently reporting Inverse teleporter issues with the mod so

[finite bough]

After turning off that setting for furniture GI has been giving no issues. Turns out that 1 setting and Late company both were causing my soft locks.

[finite bough]

Thats odd cause we use the crap out of the inverse.

[neat stone]

Have you ever had a glitch happen where enemies are invisible ? After inverse

[ivory pivot]

Thankyouuu!

[light girder]

It got updated btw so the issue should be resolved now

[ivory pivot]

Wonderful! I was asleep the whole time so I wasn't affected

[finite bough]

No.

[neat stone]

Damn. I can not for the life of me figure out what is causing that

[upper schooner]

One of the LethalElements weather conditions does mess with teleporters so...
Wasn't surprised it might've caused a problem when it did at that time

Not sure if you can turn off that aspect of the weather

[rain marsh]

I've read the comments above and can't figure out whether GI is actually unstable or just likely to create conflicts with other mods.

[light girder]

GI is unstable in some aspects still tbh yes and conflicts and compatibility issues are also a known problem in some edge cases honestly I don't recommend the mod if you find yourself not really needing it's features. Shaosil isn't that active anymore

[light girder]

Haha

[light girder]

You plan to address it when you return though so it's all good 😄

[rain marsh]

I appreciate the responses lmao. I only really need a couple of the features, so I'll try to find smaller replacement mods.

[tropic saddle]

ive almost never had issues with this mod lel. tho tbf i dont have a lot of the stuff on in the config, like the masked or better monitors stuff

[frail rapids]

I have almost everything on and no issues coming from GI lol

[rain marsh]

Really appreciate everyone coming out of the woodwork to provide input. I've added GI back to my list and I'm carefully testing it, but so far everything is smooth. I'm just shy of 200 in my modpack and have managed to keep it predictable and stable, save for some minor input and UI conflicts. So much time spent testing...

[broken crescent]

Good to hear. I know performance is a huge deal for some people but I always slack on looking into that. And I know some of my monitor options are bugged which I do want to fix in the next update. Especially player health and danger level

[rain marsh]

I don't personally mind minor perf issues, but we've had lobby desync issues from other mods derail otherwise stellar nights, so that's what I'm trying hard to avoid... things like irregular player selection in the monitor and terminal, teleporter inconsistencies with AI mods, stuff like that.

[light girder]

I will say an issue you may run into and this is an issue that GI and CollectYourDead both cause, is sometimes when teleporting or collecting bodies you get stuck having the item collection sound go off

It's due to the 2 mods patching BeamUpPlayer for some reason

[limber depot]

I don't know what mod I'm using, I know I don't use CollectYourDeath, but It auto collects the body when teleport

And I never had this issue when playin with +5 people

[light girder]

If you're not using GI

[limber depot]

I use GI

a lot

[light girder]

ButteryFixes does it in a safe way

Yeah then in your case GI handles it

[limber depot]

And why don't you only use it?
I find it curious since you know the bug

[light girder]

I have GI in my pack

But a lot of it's features are disabled

[rain marsh]

So that can happen with only GI installed, or it requires a second mod with conflicting patch? I do have ButteryFixes in my list.

[light girder]

I prefer to let other mods handle things if they handle the same things GI does

[rain marsh]

That's the approach I always use, but sometimes it's hard to nail down which patches conflict.

[light girder]

Cus they do it in more optimized ways, even Shaosil said if other mods handle the same features he recommends disabling GI's counterparts

[limber depot]

I see, I do the opposite :]
if I have another mod and I find out that GI does it, I uninstall the other mod

Of course it depends on each person's taste and experience.

[light girder]

Yeah Shaosil's recommendation is to let other mods handle it lol

[limber depot]

lel I see

[light girder]

So say darmuh's mod can handle almost all the terminal features now

[proven moth]

don't really need to experience anything to learn that a lot of stuff in GI is done in kind of a sloppy way lol

[light girder]

ButteryFixes handles fire exit fixes

[limber depot]

If I see something breaking I'll disable it and use it's counterparts

thx

[light girder]

Do you also still use GI in your own pack or have you moved away from it?

[proven moth]

I still use it

but I don't play all too often

[light girder]

I keep it mostly for the monitor stuff

[proven moth]

Yeah

I also use the money per player thing

[ivory pivot]

Lun you readded it?

[light girder]

Yeah because BioDiversity caused the big and small disabled monitors to duplicate the main screens with OpenMonitors

[ivory pivot]

I have not had that happen yet

[light girder]

But also ran into issues today with the main Solar Flare screen breaking

So may have to remove it again idk

[ivory pivot]

what planet where you on when it happened? if you can recall?

[light girder]

it happened everytime we had it

not a specific planet

[ivory pivot]

from the start, or did it suddenly happen and stayed like that?

[hardy fable]

I havent had issues like this, you’re not using latecompany are you

[light girder]

LethalElements and GI just seem to commonly not get along

[ivory pivot]

oh, no the biodiversity bug

[rain marsh]

We weren't, and never did find the cause of those issues. To be clear though, we also weren't using GI at the time.

[rain marsh]

which one are you referring to?

[ivory pivot]

The one Lun talked about with the duplicate screens

[rain marsh]

Ah I totally skipped over that

I see, so that's an issue with Bio + OM, not GI

[light girder]

It would more so be an issue even without OM, GI patches the monitors in a specific way that avoids the bug entirely which I think is also what causes compat problems with some other mods

Gonna see if I fixed it, BioD had a lot of bugs and issues with OgoPogo

If not I have a workaround for it, since GI and LethalElements don't get along well

[slow flicker]

I hit the noise spam on collecting bodies issue occasionally. I have GI and butteryfixes. Is there a recommended way to have it never happen?

[light girder]

GI feels like a funny trade off atm, it fixes some bugs but causes other bugs and compat issues at the same time

[slow flicker]

There no setting in GI to disable this fix

[light girder]

That is a GI bug

[rain marsh]

So if I'm understanding correctly: GI and Bio are currently compatible, but Bio on its own has issues with Ogo on modded moons other than those in its 'official' config?

[light girder]

ButteryFixes won't cause it

[slow flicker]

Thanks

[light girder]

It's a bug that happens generally anytime a mod patches BeamUpPlayer

@ivory pivot workaround applied, no monitor duplication

[rain marsh]

I'm curious if there are any particularly important examples of those "other bugs and compat issues"? Settings or conflicting mods that should be avoided if possible right now?

[light girder]

Well GI just has some patches like the Teleporter one for example

That are good but also cause issues

and you can't disable them

[ivory pivot]

I haven't had the duplication happen, what's the workaround

[light girder]

Duplication happens sometimes if you use LPR to disable the internal and external cams for extra performance

Don't ask me why

That workaround I realized sucks though I felt some fps loss

lol

I'll just stick to keeping GI for the non-buggy features it contains, I'm still waiting on Voxx to tell me if one of the 2 settings I listed might be why LethalElements breaks with it

[real steeple]

Will I have problems if I only use the masked and health station options?

i just need those

[light girder]

Issue resolved

if you use GI and LethalElements keep this option set to false

[tawny gyro]

so... keep the post processing enabled(?)

[light girder]

Yep

[real steeple]

all other mod functions work as they should?

[light girder]

Good news it wasn't an issue with GI it was just rng

[ivory pivot]

so my pack size can go down again?

[light girder]

Yeah I've just disabled the buggy things in GI tbh

[ivory pivot]

yay, now to redo the whole config for GI again

[light girder]

Did you not back it up?

[ivory pivot]

I'm on gale 0.7.4

[light girder]

Why?

Update your Gale

[ivory pivot]

I'll just steal yours and do small changes, a bunch of people where reporting issues post 0.7.5

[light girder]

0.7.6 has been fine for us

So was 0.7.5

I diagnose them with skill issue

c;

[ivory pivot]

I saw a bunch of config issues being posted so I though I 'd wait

but fine, but if something break I'll blame you

not a good start for 0.7.6

[light girder]

🤔

[ivory pivot]

closing it and reopening fixed that pretty fast, only happened after the update tried to reopen

[granite jacinth]

where that location? on GI.cfg or LE.cfg? because i dont found in my text editor

nvm found it

[outer crystal]

Feature REquest. PLEASE! [begs] An option to remove that "pixilated crunchy filter" on tv videos. Drives me spare.

lol

[prisma lintel]

Feature Request: Toggle the music on the disco ball to allow for its light, but prevent it from making noise and attracting dogs.

[finite bough]

@light girder have you found a way to prevent the teleport corpse bug from happening with GI since it can't be disabled?

I literally forbid my players from teleporting corpses.

[rain marsh]

How I wish I could just disable the telporter patch entirely...

[broken crescent]

Soon, soon. I could have sworn someone said it was LethalElements causing that but I could be wrong

Soon™

[light girder]

LethalElements was causing a different issue

It caused the issue where Teleporters broke entirely

lol

But yeah adding an option to not patch BeamUpPlayer will be great

😄

[broken crescent]

Ah ok

[light girder]

Idk why it causes that issue tbh, maybe @sour rain would know more as to why that being patched by GI or CollectYourDead causes the bug sometimes that causes the ui to bug out since they implemented a safer way to auto collect dead bodies into their mod

[finite bough]

I have a theory actually. Do you have your teleporter set to allow bringing back items with the player?

[light girder]

I do now but I never used to

So it's unrelated

[finite bough]

Maybe not. I noticed it is buggy. I recommend not using it with normal teleporter. Some items that can be in the shop and spawn as scrap bug out if you set it to tools and not scrap.

An example the shopping cart mod. A player holding the shopping cart got teleported back and completely broke.

[cloud pilot]

is this compatible with v62?

[slow flicker]

Yeah

[cloud pilot]

thanks

[slow flicker]

Np. Suggested to go thru the config and disable any features you don’t actively want. Also there’s an uncommon bug with teleporting bodies where it spams the item collected noise.

[cloud pilot]

okay, thank you

[celest oriole]

I do, the TP works fine

Just disable all mods and reactivate one by one until you find the culprit

[idle valve]

Yeah disable those 200+ mods one by one

Should be easy

[kind turret]

literally is, lad. You think we play the game? Hell no, we're all troubleshooters here.

100s of hours in LC on steam and its from just turning the game on and off again to make sure nothings broken

[cloud pilot]

thats how you debug mod errors in general as a mod user

its a pain but thats how it is unfortunately

to speed up the process I recommend disabling them in packages, e.g. disable like 5 mods at once and see if that fixes it. if not, disable 5 others as well, and repeat. if the error is fixed, out of those 5 disabled mods, reactivate them one by one and check which one causes errors.

thats how I did it with broken minecraft modpacks

[ivory pivot]

I usually do 50/50

[cloud pilot]

yeah that works as well

still a pain but yeah

[tropic saddle]

i have a simple solution

dont play with 200+ mods lel

[celest oriole]

And if few touch the teleporter mechanics, you probably only have a few to test. Apparently you only need to test GI anyway

[limber depot]

too late bro

[rough salmon]

i used to have a 400 modpack...

[tropic saddle]

bro playing this game with even over 100 mods seems to me like you just dont really like the base game lol

[light girder]

You just don't really understand how many essential mods there are yet

My pack has a little over 200

[tropic saddle]

i mean youve got like a million fix mods right? ig in that case its a lil different cuz lethal is buggy as heck

[light girder]

It's more so you need to steer clear of outdated mods that were designed for older versions of the game

Yeah my pack is mostly qol mods, bug fixes, and dependencies

[tropic saddle]

but when its content mods, 100+ pack, thats what it seems like

[light girder]

Well yeah if you're using a ton of moon and interior mods your game is gonna run like shit

[tropic saddle]

its no longer lethal lol

[upper schooner]

When my pack hovers around the 70 count for mods lmao

[slow flicker]

How big of an impact does adding moons and interiors have? I’ve got like 8 modded interiors and 30 modded moons and I’m trying to get a bit better performance. Would ditching some of the interiors make a big impact?

[short frost]

Depends on your ram I think

[slow flicker]

Yeah that’s what I figured. I’ve got 16GB and it’s getting maxed out which is I believe why I’m dropping frames. I need to try deleting some poster mods first to see if that helps since I have a feeling it’s loading those all into ram lol

Appreciate it

[short frost]

Anything big in file size like moons and interiors cause the most damage since they're always loaded yeah

[slow flicker]

Yeah gonna play around with it and see if I can knock the ram usage down

Thanks a bunch!

[celest oriole]

Moons can be awful, especially on startup times

I have qol, content, moons, 3 interiors and i don't even reach 100 mods

[slow flicker]

Yeah I’m fine with startup times but getting frame drops down to like 20fps is not ideal

[tropic saddle]

i have qol, content, like 24 modded moons, 8 interiors and i dont reach 70

[light girder]

@broken crescent masked having nameplates still causes a bug where they have a scan node

[crystal quartz]

is it possible to edit the text scaling or content at all?

cant read player health unless i jump up and kiss the monitor

[ebon nest]

I think the player health one was mostly intended to be put on one of the two bigger ones

[finite bough]

Player health really doesn't work. Also there's a remove filter mod (can't remember the name) it's makes things look a lot better. Also makes body cam way better too.

@crystal quartz

[winged shadow]

anyone have a cool ship monitor loadout that I could copy?

[broken crescent]

Well how about that. I finally got around to hooking it up to a profiler, so this could be great for me finally getting around to solving any (obvious) performance problems eventually

Although I might be doing something wrong... I don't see any mod scripts in the call stack

[narrow oriole]

did you enable deep profiling? you may not necessarily want to, but you're probably only gonna see your mod's component event handlers in there without it

deep profiling is probably a decent way to get a good overview of where to look, but you may want to get some better measurements using manual profiler markers after: #1211989201793449994 message

the reason being that the engine runs incredibly slow with deep profiling enabled

[outer basin]

Flips the rotation of fire entrances 180 degrees so you are facing inside the facility when entering.
Does this have an option to be disabled? I'm fairly certain this isn't a bug and shouldn't be considered a bugfix.

[kind turret]

I’m pretty sure that its a toggle in the config

[outer basin]

Excellent

[broken crescent]

I tested with and without deep profiling, but I still only see the game's vanilla call stack and no mod functions

I may just be attaching it incorrectly or something

[narrow oriole]

and you were using the command line flag to enable deep profiling?

[broken crescent]

Yeah -deepprofiling or whatever

[narrow oriole]

not sure if there's somewhere that might reference a different method but that's what I did

odd

[broken crescent]

I'll try it again to be sure

[narrow oriole]

if it's launched with that option and able to attach, it definitely should be using it

[broken crescent]

So my step is

1. Have the correct Unity editor version open (loaded an outdated LC rip but that's irrelevant I assume)

2. Open the standalone profiler from the editor

3. Select the correct target

I do get console logs and I'm able to profile it, but so far the call stack looks very "pure Unity"

[narrow oriole]

the "deep profiling" button should also appear different, although it's still disabled so it's hard to tell the difference to your screenshot above without comparing

[broken crescent]

I see, ok I'll poke at it a bit more

[narrow oriole]

yep that all sounds right

the target being a copy of the game with debug executables

[broken crescent]

Right, the DLL is replaced and other one is added

Oh wait, I found a PlayerControllerBPatch.Update, but it's just the class/method name. I was searching for GeneralImprovements in the hierarchy and it doesn't appear to show namespaces anywhere

[cloud gate]

if u have butteryfixes it also does the same lol
BUT, if u have both its gonna make u spin 360 degress instead which is funny

[outer basin]

lol

Yeah I've got ButteryFixes, they've got a config for it as well

[narrow oriole]

huh, it did show namespaces for me iirc

not absolutely sure though

[broken crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/envyme05-360-spin-turn-rotate-gif-13240008

[short frost]

I always wondered why those fire exit mods didn't make a raycast to check which direction things should be facing lol

[cosmic mirage]

fr, like as if I'd play without em by now 😂

[broken crescent]

Did some work on GI today, got 4-5 small fixes coded based on the most recent feedback from what I remember.

There's two main things left before I release anything, which are 1) fix the danger level monitor since it's super broken, and 2) see if I notice anything weird about performance near the ship now that I can profile things

[light girder]

Looking forward to what you find while profiling the mod, cus I notice GI is one of the mods that lowers performance of the overall game for me

[broken crescent]

Bruh I'm looking forward to it too, I still haven't seen it myself so this should be interesting lol

I guess I'll record it while I walk around the ship then analyze any sus frames to see what stands out

No promises if I don't see anything but if I do, I'll fix it

[light girder]

I wonder if there's any fixes and stuff that can also be removed at this point, I imagine there might be some redundant ones in there now :3

[broken crescent]

That reminds me I'll have to check if that flashlight fix is still needed

[light girder]

Yeah, along with some of the other fixes. Like I'm unsure if Spraypaint still desyncs for example

[broken crescent]

I'll check 👍🏼

[light girder]

Ye cus less things being patched that don't need to be is always good

[dawn saffron]

does anyone know how to get this mod not to mess up the moons catalogue? I want to have the look of it from Lethal Moon Unlocks, but this mod always ends up setting it to default

[frigid bramble]

there are some terminal settings you need to turn off

[dawn saffron]

which ones?

[broken crescent]

ShowHiddenMoonsInCatalog and ShowMoonPricesInTerminal should do it

I didn't think I modify the moons page if those are off

[dawn saffron]

ok, I had prices off, but I assumed hidden moons wouldn't mess with anything. I'll check it

yeah that did it

[broken crescent]

I spent a few minutes deep profiling with GI enabled, in orbit, and while landed (inside and outside of the ship).

While performance does decrease when in/near the ship, it looks to be HDRenderPipeline related and not necessarily due to GI. The biggest performance hit I could find with GI running was a hovertip which was only costing about 0.04 ms. In fact, when I disabled GI and landed on the same planet, I had worse performance in vanilla lol.

Tested using better monitors and fix personal scanner both on.

I do plan on testing more in case I missed something, but so far I'm really not seeing GI as being at fault

[light girder]

Wonder if it could just be redundant fixes or overlapping code in combination with other mods that does it

[broken crescent]

If someone who is experiencing consistent poor performance sends me their code I can always deep profile that instead

[light girder]

01919ad4-d7b9-c635-ad07-18a6cc3d44a5 my code, I will say I feel overall lower performance with GI compared to when I used other mods in it's place but unsure why

[broken crescent]

Ok cool I'll check yours out when I can 👍🏼

Ugh launching it with r2modman doesn't let me use deep profiling, I'll have to copy your mods over and launch it through Steam I think

[light girder]

Yeah you'll need to disable FixPluginTypesSerialization probably

Also Scopophobia so you don't get a million shy guys

[broken crescent]

I was very confused for a second because I thought you meant...

https://tenor.com/view/shy-guy-super-mario-excited-nintendo-video-games-gif-17595276

haha... maybe I'll get the debug version instead so I don't have to disable all of these

oh wait I don't think that would fix the dependencies of the original... eh I'll just disable them all then I guess

[light girder]

You should be able to disable only it

some mods just may or may not work

Also debug version should work I imagine

they'll just complain about disabled dependency

[limber depot]

you can try checking my modpack, It's quite huge and it uses mostly your settings unlike standalone mods

01919aed-1f21-b05d-c622-ac80cbd397a6

[light girder]

Yeah looking at DiFFoZ's guide he says to disable only FixPluginTypesSerialization and add the Debug version in it's place

@sly jolt Would your fork work in general? Cus if so I might just add it to my pack and disable the original

[sly jolt]

my fork only works in dev builds

on release it will crash

[light girder]

Got it

[slow flicker]

Thanks for working on profiling and performance. I know it’s much less fun than doing actual feature stuff but it’s much appreciated!

[prime glade]

just got a hang on psychsanctum after taking off right when the game was meant to autosave, had this in the logs

these 2 were the only other errors way above it, and seem unlikely to be the culprits as they are just complaining about things related to how the moon was set up I'm pretty sure

[broken crescent]

Thanks, I threw an extra check in the code where I think that might be happening. Looks like a rare edge case

@light girder and @limber depot and whoever else is experiencing performance with GI. I put some time into deep profiling the game with and without my mod enabled.

I tested this in vanilla, my own profile, and both of your profiles that you linked above, with and without GI enabled. Tested in orbit, landed, inside, outside, around the ship, etc, each time profiling for the duration and then scrubbing through the frames and looking at every GeneralImprovements call in the hierarchy window.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) there wasn't a single frame that I could find where any of GI's functions took more than 0.04 ms to process anything, including the personal scanner fix and better monitors. To be fair, the monitors performance differences could have been happening on the render thread, but I was getting the same FPS with or without GI and better monitors enabled either way.

I spent about an hour which isn't much, but I really couldn't find anything significant one way or the other. At this point, I'm going to have to say "works on my machine" and I'll have to have someone else show a profiler screenshot of the culprit with my mod, if any.

[ivory pivot]

You've probably spent a good chunk of time on this and thank you for that

[light girder]

Hmmm well this is a good thing. Did you find any mods that might be causing interactions at all that might possibly be causing problems in Multiplayer?

Multiplayer is where I mostly always felt a difference lol

[ivory pivot]

@broken crescent can you take a look at this?

[broken crescent]

Potentially fixed in the next update

[toxic summit]

do you think the performance hit near/on the ship is just a unity hdrp problem then? or a conflict with another mod? cus in my experience when i go near the ship, game drops from 40-50fps down to ~18fps (granted my hardware is old but the people i played with also said the ship lagged bad, and they have new hardware)

[light girder]

Like I was telling Shaosil I think GI might have an issue in Multiplayer more so than Singleplayer

But dunno why

[toxic summit]

couldn't hurt to do a 2 player test on wifi in a private lobby but if that doesn't show any differences i'll chalk it up to a conflict

[short frost]

I believe someone reported that being LLL

Lol

[toxic summit]

LLL causes performance hits on the ship?

[short frost]

Near the ship there's wind triggers and with LLL massive frame drops were happening

I'll find the relevant link hold on

[toxic summit]

i'm assuming the wind triggers are part of the ship object, can they be disabled or will that mess up stuff like the wind sound on takeoff

[short frost]

They're part of moons

https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/issues/132

[toxic summit]

ohhhhh

doesn't vanillamoonslagfix address this on the vanilla moons

[short frost]

Uhhh not sure, never heard of that mod lol

Oh wait I think I know that mod

Kind of? It doesn't fix the issue LLL causes

[toxic summit]

yeah but it removes specific audioreverbtriggers and windtriggers that cause lagspikes in basegame

[short frost]

Ye but the report goes through things vanilla and with LLL

It's a pretty detailed report

[toxic summit]

i'm just wondering if removing problematic windtriggers on modded moons would address this issue

[sly jolt]

you can also try this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/JacobG5/ReverbTriggerFix/

Lethal Performance is also doing optimization of AudioReverbTrigger

[toxic summit]

thanks

i'll test my modpack without this and then with it, to see if there's an improvement

[light girder]

Yeah he made that cus I was mentioning I think the lag on his moon in Multi might have been related to Reverb Triggers, I mentioned the VanillaMoonsLagFix mod to him and he saw ways he could potentially do something better :3 I'm looking forward to testing it out for him on stream later

[light girder]

Yeah so theoretically the 2 mods paired together should help a ton

[opal mica]

Hey, any plan on doing aimated weather screen for the custom weather out there ? just asking

[broken crescent]

I don't really have that on my todo list at the moment, sorry

I've spent some more time profiling today, and might have found a huge vanilla performance hit related to audio reverb triggers. I'm going to do some research to see if I can fix it, it would result in huge FPS gains in certain cases

[opal mica]

i was just asking, i am debating if i should change that monitor

[frigid bramble]

you're not doing the same thing as the mod posted above are you?

[subtle mulch]

The screen is just ascii right? Could you add a way for us to add our own?

[frigid bramble]

i think it should be on the mod author to do that, but idk if it's possible currently. i think there should be a fallback to the regular weather monitor if the associated modded weather doesn't have any animation

[broken crescent]

🤣 I somehow missed that message. It IS related to that exact issue which would also work but that mod outright removes the reverb. I'm looking into keeping it and just stopping the gameobject lookup every frame

[frigid bramble]

no no no im talking about this https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/JacobG5/ReverbTriggerFix/

it doesnt remove triggers but just changes them to exclude a bunch of layers

and i think it has an experimental option that does exactly what you described

[broken crescent]

Ah I see, then yeah maybe I shouldn't bother

[frigid bramble]

yeah sounds like you were both on the same track

[broken crescent]

Sort of. I wasn't looking to change the functionality, but rather just cache the gameobject lookup. According to the profile stack traces, the main performance hit is because every frame, every reverb trigger is doing a FindObjectOfType call for a single object that never changes per level

I might do it anyway actually

[frigid bramble]

oh i see. that could be worth doing still

[broken crescent]

Just tested, even with ReverbTriggerFix I'm seeing huge lag spikes. I'll see if I can fix that

[narrow oriole]

talking about the AudioReverbPresets I assume?

[broken crescent]

Exactly. That FindObjectOfType is a booger

called multiple times a frame by each instance

[narrow oriole]

yeah it does seem a little sus

[broken crescent]

I think I can cache it each time a level loads and call it a day with a quick transpiler

[narrow oriole]

I assume it's only when you're on the edge of the ship?

[broken crescent]

It's in an OnTriggerStay function per reverb instance

I'm not sure why the edge of the ship hits harder

[narrow oriole]

right

I don't think there's a lot of reverb triggers way from the ship

[broken crescent]

Ah so it's the player that might be inside of multiple triggers causing that?

[narrow oriole]

if it's causing serious lag, I think that's probably the case

at the corner of the ship it probably intersects at least two

[broken crescent]

I mean look at this nonsense

All those orange bars

[narrow oriole]

oh

wow

[broken crescent]

Yeah it's not pretty

[narrow oriole]

that's a few more than I was expecting

[broken crescent]

I may be overly optimistic but I think fixing this may fix a TON of performance issues people are having

[narrow oriole]

I feel like it would be nice if these didn't have to run all this code every frame

it does seem a bit overly optimistic though, I would imagine this doesn't hit during normal gameplay

where were you at that point in the profile?

[broken crescent]

Outside the ship, standing still

Yeah it might hit ship players harder

[narrow oriole]

I assume fairly close to it?

[broken crescent]

Pretty close yeah

[narrow oriole]

I think it shouldn't happen if you're inside the ship, might be worth checking that

[broken crescent]

You might be right, it seems to be worst around the perimeter

[narrow oriole]

the quickest fix is to switch it to FindAnyObjectOfType

it definitely should not be calling FindObjectOfType there, but I don't think zeekers is very conscious of the difference

I often see the latter in LC

[broken crescent]

Oh I'm not too aware of the difference either

Does it just stop sooner when searching?

[narrow oriole]

FindObjectOfType is ordered

[broken crescent]

Oh

Well that seems inefficient

[narrow oriole]

I'm not sure what the order is but it has a defined output whereas Any doesn't

[broken crescent]

fair enough

[narrow oriole]

I guess it would just be the first one that was spawned

[short frost]

Is this about triggers that surround the ship?

[narrow oriole]

so if it doesn't have a cache for those on the runtime side, it would have to iterate every instance to check if it's an earlier instantiation

[narrow oriole]

yeah

[short frost]

Someone did a lot of tests with that and was pointing it all to LLL but was kinda ignored, u think it.might be related?

I can link the issue

[narrow oriole]

I saw that one, the framerate hit was insane

looked like it dropped to 5fps

[short frost]

Yeah and I was shocked

[narrow oriole]

I'm assuming that's not what Shaosil is seeing rn

[short frost]

And it was just ignored lol

Probably not

[narrow oriole]

if Shaosil was benchmarking with LLL it's possible it's related though

if so, I would kinda expect to see a bunch of those audio reverb presets in UnityExplorer search

[broken crescent]

That is active in the modpack I'm profiling

[narrow oriole]

so might be worth looking a tthat

[short frost]

What moon were u testing

[broken crescent]

March

[short frost]

Yep

[broken crescent]

While flooded

[short frost]

It's that

https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/issues/132

It's apparently a big LLL problem on march

[broken crescent]

wait lol

That issue

https://github.com/Shaosil/LethalCompanyMods-GeneralImprovements/issues/212

same guy

[short frost]

Lmao

[broken crescent]

Except he's blaming GI