General Improvements

[bold edge]

Still no allowed values in lethal config? sadge

[inner furnace]

The Pursuit of at least having 4 Big monitors and 3 are cams and 8 small monitors to the sides I wish that was a thing 🙏🏼😭

Than maybe our dream might come true

4 monitors top left & right

4 Big monitors around the main monitor left & up & right

Wish that was a thing

[hoary burrow]

nah, toggling monitors, those are the future

[inner furnace]

But is this really the best we can get?

[hoary burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/not-yet-mace-windu-star-wars-gif-9797353

[inner furnace]

We need the true ultimate monitor system

[inner furnace]

This

[hoary burrow]

even more monitors might just make it information overload tbh

gotta compartmentalize

[inner furnace]

But it's not added more?

It deletes 4 monitors for 1 big one

Which basically is 3 monitors are lost

[hoary burrow]

oh i see what you mean

[inner furnace]

Which is less monitors

[hoary burrow]

that would be fun but a nightmare to configure i bet

[inner furnace]

Not for me

I know what number it would be

Number 5

And number 6 would be the top right

Next to it

[hoary burrow]

oh i know how to set up the config

[bold edge]

All of those have to be written together, people will cry why it doesn't work

[hoary burrow]

have the mod detect if monitors 1,2,7 and 8 have the exact same config value, and if they do, replace those 4 with one big monitor instead

same for 3,4,9,10 and 5,6,11,12

so if i want to turn the 4 top left monitors into 1 big monitor all i gotta do is give them all the same value and the mod will handle it for me from there

one day perhaps 🙏

but then again the top row of small monitors is kinda slanted down so i don't know how that would look if we put a big monitor there

[bold edge]

How do you make Quota number to work? It doesn't accept QuotaNumber or Quota Number values

[hoary burrow]

TotalQuotas

[bold edge]

CMON

perfect

except double HP because of the An0n patches

[devout remnant]

peek the setup

[bold edge]

Approx (wrong as hell)

[hoary burrow]

Beehive?

[bold edge]

Maybe

math is not mathing

Not sure if it's GI, but I didn't see this before

[hoary burrow]

I've seen that before, no idea what it means but it never broke anything as far as I know

Always assumed it was some AI thing but idk

[narrow oriole]

just submitted another PR that should fix the last compatibility issue with TwoRadarMaps

[bold edge]

You have to make accurate stamina display too! (and it's values in %)

[narrow oriole]

lol wait what's wrong with the existing one?

[bold edge]

It shows that you have no stamina when you have 20% left

[narrow oriole]

I meant the AccurateStaminaDisplay mod

I assumed you knew it existed since you said its name

[bold edge]

Ah, nothing wrong but +1 mod that makes a subtle difference so why not to include it here

[narrow oriole]

idk, I don't see the point in merging perfectly fine mods like that, but maybe that's just me

[bold edge]

I mean 100 mods that change 1 thing are kinda meh really

1 comprehensive QoL mod is way better

[narrow oriole]

to me the definition of QoL seems quite opinionated, a lot of QoL mods do things by default that don't make sense to me

[broken crescent]

Haha. So far, most of the things I've added are either stuff I noticed I wanted myself, suggestions from my friends I play with, or stuff from other mods that I just didn't like the code of 🤣

[narrow oriole]

I suppose there's an argument for loading times if you're running that many QoL mods, but my packs tend to be fairly small

[broken crescent]

For example toggle shortcut in FlashlightFix

[narrow oriole]

fair enough on the last point, that's part of why I made OpenBodyCams

(no offense to the authors of those other mods, but there was a lot of potential left on the table)

[broken crescent]

Exactly

[narrow oriole]

but personally I've made a point to separate my mods into specific domains

[frigid bramble]

is there a particular reason that you just haven't merged flashlightfix into GI?

[narrow oriole]

as an example, Insym is running PathfindingFixes, but I don't think he would have done that if it was instead a mod that included NutcrackerFixes since he is more wary of the behavior changes in that

[broken crescent]

Honestly I should have made the monitors a different mod.. but to be honest I like it consolidated, like less maintenance

[narrow oriole]

it's definitely easier development-wise

[broken crescent]

Yep! I'm trying to get this stable and stuff, eventually I will

And I haven't had enough time lol

[narrow oriole]

I also wonder if I would've had a much worse time working on compatibility issues if I hadn't split my mods up

[broken crescent]

That's possible

[narrow oriole]

the classic "attach your config please"

[bold edge]

Same with health station since GI is a "client side" mod I wouldn't say health station is too appropriate to be here + it makes you practically unable to join random people if enabled

[broken crescent]

You're not wrong, it really just comes down to personal preference as the developer, I personally would much rather maintain it in one big package than several smaller ones

[edgy tartan]

wtf?

As I understand it, you decided to put all the mods into one mod, so that later they would be increased by a bunch of corrections xD

When you turn off the monitor, should all monitors turn off?

[broken crescent]

Yes they should! I overlooked that when better monitors = off

[broken crescent]

Ah yeah that's configurable too

[edgy tartan]

Thanks for the info

About the health HUD

Can I change it somehow and make it more beautiful?

Can you add a pulse animation?

Or something similar to make it more visually pleasing to watch

With critical damage, the pulse goes off scale, the vanilla mechanics are such that an endless sprint is given - until health is restored to 20%

And you need to add a color - green or orange when health is 100 or higher (for mods that increase the health limit, for example Late_Upgrade)

Well, beautiful visual animation, slightly noticeable, like a pulse or pulsation ❤️

Or here’s an example: the lower your health, the color changes from orange to yellow - then red and bright red (you can figure it out yourself, if it’s relevant)

I have another question: are there plans to support only client mods in the future?

Because I think it’s time to push such corrections and simplifications to the top

[whole walrus]

Should be a monitor for the terminal guy

[edgy tartan]

or like this

But the player’s health HUD would also be nice to look at

[broken crescent]

I love the idea but to be honest I'm not too great at making fancy visuals lol, it would probably take me more time than its worth

And I don't have any plans to remove anything from the mod or create small offshoot mods. I already disable the breaking config options by default, and I'll make their description more clear that it's required by the host if enabled

[whole walrus]

Pair with body cams and you are the guy in the chair

[whole walrus]

Understandable

[whole walrus]

This mod is making that I believe https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1191113181653905423

[edgy tartan]

I agree, it looks a bit complicated

It's easier to wait for someone to make a similar mod

And then take the idea and improve it in this mod :3

[edgy tartan]

Cool mod, but I stopped using it

Sometimes problems seem like

[whole walrus]

?

[edgy tartan]

kek, the camera hid behind the monitors

[whole walrus]

DAY1

[broken crescent]

Hmm did I forget a space

[edgy tartan]

What does this mean?

Some items will not have a description when scanned?

Did anyone have it? I just didn't notice

uga-buga

[frigid bramble]

if the value is 0 or there is no description then it will not have that little bar at the bottom

[crude widget]

stuff like keys won’t show value bc they don’t actually have a value of 3

[edgy tartan]

Understood

My translator ignores the value for the xd key

[jolly geyser]

Would be nice if this replaced the exterior camera or is just a completely different monitor all together

[jolly geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-template-virtual-insanity-virtual-insanity-slow-gif-2026607390045211562

[edgy tartan]

yes, it's the best xD

I'm running to test new updates and look for errors in my build.

[crude widget]

the monitors work great rlly appreciate your work and im totally abt to nitpick but anyone know a way u can remove the little green cam under mointor 7 lol

[edgy tartan]

It's in the BodyCam settings

They have a separate value there that says enable the internal camera for the monitor

or not

[crude widget]

ur a lifesaver bro ill try it rn

[broken crescent]

Or if you enable UseBetterMonitors, you can disable it from position 11

But yeah my mod doesn't disable it if that's off

[crude widget]

i love using the more monitors but ppl always put the light switch there or actually physically stand behind the monitors so i never run it

[edgy tartan]

Change your settings for the color of panels and text

I like it

[crude widget]

wdym

[edgy tartan]

Monitors do not work and severe error spam with TooManySuits

Doesn't work with this value

018d5d0f-e8f9-0728-eac5-b5a594b4616a

[proud anvil]

Loving this, took a while to arrange, still not 100% happy with the setup

[crude widget]

ear⁉️

[edgy tartan]

Urgently send off your config!

I'm tired of setting up every monitor 🥺

[edgy tartan]

Why are the buttons at the bottom big? And what is that green button at the top?

[crude widget]

thats cozyimprovements for the bigger buttons and im pretty sure the green one is for the door

idk what mod it is tho

[edgy tartan]

Understood

Then it doesn't matter anymore ^^

[crude widget]

nvm its a zoom for the radar while ur watching someone https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Piggy/RadarZoom/

[edgy tartan]

Yes I already remembered

Found it in my Excel list

[crude widget]

ah okok

there is a mod that puts the door panel up there and it would go super well with the door power panel but i think it conflicts with the 12 monitors bc of placement

[edgy tartan]

For me, such fashions are casual

[novel sequoia]

I love it that you really liked the blue text to keep it :3 ❤️ hehe

[proud anvil]

Yaa but I'm leaning towards the red now that I see it!

[novel sequoia]

I went full basic with some white xD

[proud anvil]

makes me want to change every single hud element to blood red too!

[novel sequoia]

ooooo

Actually sound kinda nutty :3

[slate lynx]

did someone say blood red?
#880808

[novel sequoia]

I went plane jane on the ship, dunno about it anymore 😛

[proud anvil]

trying naow

[novel sequoia]

Imagine if we could do each screen different color 👀

RGB!

[proud anvil]

oh boy lol, also I still can't get the external monitor to be anything but green

[novel sequoia]

:<

[proud anvil]

the emissive color in OBC doesn't seem to have any affect

[novel sequoia]

It should but it only does it for the Body cam, not external/internal aswell 😛

[proud anvil]

also this mod doesn't work for me, must be some conflict somewhere
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/CatsArmy/CorporateRestructureWeather/

[novel sequoia]

Yeah it's from Corpo Source 😛

They've just reuploaded that part of the source pretty much.

I think!

[proud anvil]

we should just ask @broken crescent to add it into GI so we are 1 more mod debloated

[novel sequoia]

I was hoping they would but then CopyCat uploaded this 😛 I still see no issue with @broken crescent doing their own take or whatever. Makes sense seeing this mod covers the monitors completely.

[proud anvil]

... also I was hoping for an additional monitor above the one that's beside the ships door....

[novel sequoia]

How many monitors you want D: This turning into a streamer setup haha

https://tenor.com/view/alinity-hello-stream-setup-smile-gif-20602555

[proud anvil]

well.... just two at the door

[novel sequoia]

Door % makes sense for sure :3

Wonder if we can get to edit the monitor at the door too.

[proud anvil]

that'd be so sick

Anyone remember which mod had a config for the GUI item slots borders?

remember seeing spacing and such

[novel sequoia]

You still using AC?

[proud anvil]

yepp

[novel sequoia]

I know AC you can change thickness and stuff but don't know about color

It's tab next to cosmetics

[proud anvil]

o i see it there, ya we need color lol

damnit

[novel sequoia]

Give us the colors @half igloo !!!!! RGB UI!

xD

Imma head out anyway! Sleepy sleepy time! ❤️

[midnight garden]

what cosmetic mod is that?

[cerulean thunder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518882681363103754/1198717072990027826/IMG_5071.jpg?ex=65c925c5&is=65b6b0c5&hm=e9047f0126b1a8432e5076b2af13a7cfb7792f27fcfa6d3dd762f6c4e7274ec2&

[frigid bramble]

can confirm now that both the radar bug and the scan node bug are fixed on the latest version

[regal elk]

Does the health kit in the ship work when you have more than 100 HP? LGU has the upgrade called stimpack which allows you to have more than 100 HP so I'm wondering if it will work for that.

[frigid bramble]

yes, it checks your health at the start of every round and updates it if it increases

[regal elk]

thanks!

[scarlet roost]

oh i mentioned the door buttons to them. they said they will try making it

because i saw the zoom button and asked if they could make door buttons too onto the monitor

so that we dont have to use that floating door button copy mod in front of the ship

that way we can use better monitors from GI

with the said complete set of buttons

[crude widget]

sick

that’s actually so cool

[broken crescent]

I fixed a bug where my asset bundle would not be loaded and it will be in the next version. However, that doesn't seem related to your error spam with TooManySuits. I tested my fix with your profile code and it loaded the monitors, but you still have the error spam. That tends to happen when you have 150 mods 🙂

[edgy tartan]

I'm trying to optimize the build xd

I have 170 mods

so far stable

I will continue testing

[broken crescent]

impressive

[edgy tartan]

But computers with a weak video card will not cope

like RX550 4gb

[scarlet roost]

they cant cope

sadge

https://tenor.com/view/graphics-card-drop-linus-linus-tech-tips-ltt-gif-25180772

still using my entry pc. 1660 ti 6gb. tho the fan is getting loud now

[edgy tartan]

This is not the worst option yet

The main thing is not to turn on HD

and use CullFactory

And if possible, turn off any cameras on the ship

[scarlet roost]

the HD textures kinda works fine

tried it before

tho some of the peeps cant handle it. so i removed it

[hollow escarp]

round doesnt start after dying

[broken crescent]

Can you elaborate a bit? I haven't seen this reported yet - are you using other mods, did it happen before 1.1.4, etc

Anything in the log?

[weary barn]

Not sure if they're getting the same as me
I don't know if it's related to you either, but twice today, no logs or errors when looking, after we were in "Space" some people were dead, i.e, me, it was waiting for the ship to "land" in orbit and had to restart lobby to fix it

It just seemed completely random but again, log didn't show any errors at all nor did it say anything about this mod - But just in case it may be related

[broken crescent]

Hmm ok thanks

[weary barn]

I'll post logs next time it happens, just in case

But I also don't know how it could pin point to your mod either
I've had the issue occur ages ago
It's a very rare bug that occurs, I speculate it could be vanilla even

[broken crescent]

Yeah usually if something freezes like that it's because of an error causing further code to be skipped. If there's no errors, that's pretty weird

[weary barn]

Yeah

I had to alt F4 when it happened last (So I lost those logs) because the game loves to break when I try to quit - Not all the time and definitely not related to your mod as I've had this off and on issue before I found GI

[broken crescent]

Gotcha. Well hopefully it's not lol

I have seen that it's pretty easy to freeze the game (I've seen other mods do it and I've caught myself doing it) after the round ends, if anything goes wrong it just doesn't advance a day

[weary barn]

Yeah, exactly

I'd like to say I run a pretty tight ship on mods, generally speaking, instead of making a cess pool of shit, but just for reference, this is my modlist

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.14.2
sunnobunno-YippeeMod-1.2.3
Evaisa-LethalThings-0.9.4
x753-Mimics-2.3.2
RugbugRedfern-Skinwalkers-4.0.1
PopleZoo-BetterItemScan-3.0.1
NotAtomicBomb-TerminalApi-1.5.1
rafl-BonkHitSfxFixed-1.0.2
EladNLG-EladsHUD-1.2.1
Renegades-WalkieUse-1.5.0
FlipMods-BetterStamina-1.3.2
AllToasters-SpectateEnemies-2.2.1
MegaPiggy-BuyableShotgunShells-1.0.5
MassiveNewCoilers-FixCentipedeLag-2023.12.7
kyxino-LethalUtilities-1.2.21
AlexCodesGames-AdditionalContentFramework-1.0.3
AinaVT-LethalConfig-1.3.4
KodiCraft-TermSpeak-1.1.0
kuba6000-LC_Masked_Fix-0.0.2
HomelessGinger-MaskedEnemyOverhaul-3.1.2
TheFluff-FairAI-1.3.2
LethalAPI-LethalAPI_Terminal-1.0.1
ZG-BetterTerminal-1.1.1
taffyko-BetterSprayPaint-2.0.2
bigmcnugget-VanillaContentExpansion-0.1.8
ShaosilGaming-GeneralImprovements-1.1.4
AgentRev-ShootableMouthDogs-1.0.1
DannyVD-MonitorLabels-1.3.1
TheDeadSnake-Touchscreen-1.0.10
CapyCat-Solos_Ring_Compass-1.0.3
extraes-LethalLoudnessMeter-1.0.2
ViViKo-BetterDecorPlacement-1.2.1
bozzobrain-ShipMaid-3.2.6
MrHydralisk-EnhancedLockpicker-1.1.3
xCeezy-LethalEscape-0.8.5
jockie-LethalExpansionCore-1.3.15
Justice69-ImmersiveScraps-1.1.7
Zaggy1024-PathfindingLagFix-1.2.1
DerplingDevelopments-SavageCompany-1.1.3
loaforc-FacilityMeltdown-2.1.1
ION-ToggleDeafen-1.1.1
Ozone-Runtime_Netcode_Patcher-0.2.5
readthisifbad-SnatchinBracken-1.3.6
NiceHairs-NuclearLib-1.0.4
NiceHairs-Symbiosis-1.0.5
FlipMods-FasterItemDropship-1.2.1
Zaggy1024-OpenBodyCams-1.1.0
saint_kendrick-Lethal_Doors-1.0.4
Zaggy1024-NutcrackerFixes-1.2.2
EliteMasterEric-CleanerLogs-1.0.0
linkoid-DissonanceLagFix-1.0.0
BlueAmulet-LogNeuter-1.0.3
falcodxb-LessLogs-1.0.1
EliteMasterEric-Coroner-1.5.3
malco-Lategame_Upgrades-3.1.1
Anubis-LaserControl-0.1.3
Financier-GhostGirlFearReset-1.0.0
Team_GLV-AdditionalSuits-2.0.0
Hexnet111-SuitSaver-1.1.4
x753-More_Suits-1.4.1
darmuh-suitsTerminal-1.0.6
PotatoePet-AdvancedCompany-1.0.145
stormytuna-SellFromTerminal-1.1.2
DOkge-InventoryFixPlugin-0.0.1
Sophisticasean-KeysLockDoors-1.1.2
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.6.1
GiGaGon-ScrapMerging-1.0.2
MrHydralisk-EnhancedRadarBooster-1.6.2

[broken crescent]

nice

[broken crescent]

Sneak peek of a couple changes coming in today's patch

[weary barn]

LIGHT SWITCH

LETSGOOOOOO

[novel sequoia]

Light switch scan node o.o

I am more curios of this... WHAT? Gimme colors

It looks electrified!

[broken crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/getting-pretty-close-pretty-close-close-nearby-close-proximity-gif-16046583

[clever pawn]

Will that work with mods that change hotbar?

Knowing which item will get zapped is mighty useful.

[broken crescent]

It should, it's just an overlay on the item slots, it goes by index and attaches itself to wherever that slot is

[broken crescent]

I'm only enabling it if the item is currently being targeted by lightning though 🤔

[weary barn]

holup

new phone, who dis

[clever pawn]

That's nothing new.

If an item that will get zapped is in your hand, you'll see that.

[weary barn]

Oh, it looked weird in the ss

[novel sequoia]

OW BRO that's a HUGE change if so!

[novel sequoia]

THIS IS PERFECT

[hollow escarp]

Downloaded the mod for the first time today, I cant send you the modpack i have rn, but in the logs there were 2 errors: 1 from generalimprovements, and 1 informing that StartRound thing couldn't activate

[broken crescent]

Perfect that will be super useful info when you can get that to me (if possible)

[novel sequoia]

Big thing to notice which is huge is that it will show which item is targeted without it being at hand ❤️ Perfect QoL

[hollow escarp]

Are there any obvious mods on your mind that could cause this?

[broken crescent]

Not offhand, that's a really sensitive area of code though so if anything errors after orbiting, it's likely the day will not get incremented

It could be mine, although I'm not sure immediately what would cause it

[hollow escarp]

Could Poltergeist mod cause the issue?

[clever pawn]

You could paste your modlist as a txt.

[hollow escarp]

Im not at home at the moment

[proud anvil]

Still looking for a way to override the item bars colours

[novel sequoia]

Potatoe needs to give us the colors >:D

[weary barn]

Question for you
What was the Incompatibility with the two radar maps, like what was it causing?
I swear I tried one once and it would cause the one of the two maps to freeze on one screen, usually the main monitor @broken crescent

Not sure if that is at all related

Freeze until you turned off the main monitor off and on

If it's not related to that fix, disregard

[broken crescent]

Zaggy actually fixed that one in my code with a PR, I only briefly glanced at the change but I believe it had something to do with different scripts keeping track of different players. I'm not sure about the freezing, but I believe it at least fixed radar boosters not being cycled in some cases

Also, change log of the day is here. Should be live soon

[weary barn]

Good to know
I may give it another test run

Thanks for your work

[broken crescent]

👍🏼 let me know if it still has problems of course

[weary barn]

For sure

[devout remnant]

another mod replaced from my mod list

[mighty lily]

@broken crescent , any plans to remove the item limit from the dropship?

[broken crescent]

Now I do 😄

[slate lynx]

✨

[mighty lily]

ayy, nice

[broken crescent]

https://github.com/Shaosil/LethalCompanyMods-GeneralImprovements/issues/99

Anyone else having this issue? Classic case of "works on my machine"

[sudden ice]

a question, does the GI remove the limit of items placed on the counter while you're selling?

[broken crescent]

Not yet but it will

[weary barn]

I got a feature request, but it has to be hush hush
give us the ability to kill puffers

https://tenor.com/view/modcheck-gif-19633400

[broken crescent]

GASP

[sudden ice]

yay

[mighty lily]

waiting for my friends to get on so i can see if my modpack works :V

once i do i'll tell you

[weary barn]

They constantly jump scare me in savage company but I don't want to disable them

[broken crescent]

Poor little puffer doggos!

Just for that I'll make them attack more often 😉

[mighty lily]

you murderer, how dare you kill them

[weary barn]

Like, the only monster that truly scares the shit out of me with their panic

[mighty lily]

or try to, at least

[broken crescent]

I actually didn't even know you couldn't kill them

[weary barn]

It was patched out

In v49?

I think

[broken crescent]

ah

[weary barn]

Which is like, what?

[sour rain]

spore lizards are funny

why would you even want to kill them

[weary barn]

They can die with everything can die but that mod is super unstable

[weary barn]

Try savage company

I've been playing it for about 50+ hours

I'm sick of'em

But I don't want to change their rates

I like to keep the modders balance

[hoary burrow]

Spore Lizard is LC's equivalent of that gas mask fish in Subnautica

no one shall hurt him until the end of time

[weary barn]

Killing is purely to get them out of the way

And they bite like a mini van if they get in the way

Pov: running from 3 jesters
One spore boi is like: chomp

https://tenor.com/view/sandintheeyes-drtsand-drt-boombeach-gif-19235077

Spore lizards with spore gas

[bold edge]

SO it won't cause networking issues?

[sour rain]

spore lizards deal like 20 damage with their bite

[broken crescent]

No, as far as I'm aware the only one that does is the medkit, and I added a warning to the description of that

[sour rain]

unless savage company buffs that lol

[weary barn]

Hmm, I think it does
My brother reports getting bit for 40

😆

[sour rain]

the lightning overlay is a cool accessibility setting

the static charge audio cue can be pretty subtle, especially up against the weather ambience

[broken crescent]

I was pretty proud of that one lol. Got lucky and found a fancy little animated electric overlay I could use with some modifications

[weary barn]

But that change would be the true general improvement

If we are talking vanilla though, puffer are 100% harmless

But when you have like 5

They're a menace

[sour rain]

the game gives you an on-screen warning the very first time, and i had plans to make a plugin to just make that tip repeatable

[bold edge]

I'd like to see 5 puffers in my game

[sour rain]

but i really like this approach

personally

[weary barn]

You should join me sometime

[bold edge]

they're taking so much power away

[weary barn]

I will show you all of the puffers

Power works different with SC

Since it has events that kinda override

[slate lynx]

nope
might be a config issue or save file?
i had some weird jank b4 loading an older save when you make big changes

[sour rain]

my guess is this is a resolution issue

[slate lynx]

1080P here, working fine.

[sour rain]

unity ui is designed around canvases, canvas scalers, and anchors

16:9 is by far the majority aspect ratio so most elements are probably designed to look correct there

but unless you're manually calibrating your anchors and testing them out at other aspect ratios

it might look weird outside of 16:9

[slate lynx]

confirmed your guess
playing in windowed

@broken crescent

[broken crescent]

Oh good find!

Now hmm, I wonder if that's an easy fix

[sour rain]

it would be easier to adjust UI stuff in the editor

[broken crescent]

True

[sour rain]

if you have a decomp with the UI hierarchy, you can try parenting your HP display to different objects, change the anchors, etc.

my guess is that the easiest way to get consistent results would be to make it a child of the "scavenger outline" and then just scoot it to the left however much you need to make it look good

[quartz quartz]

#1196710290457382953 message

[sour rain]

but also i hate messing with unity ui stuff and it's mostly trial and error

[quartz quartz]

Can this be related to GeneralImprovements?

[sour rain]

the editor does let you check different aspect ratios in the preview window though, so that much is very straightforward and easy

[broken crescent]

Yeah I found the spot to put it originally by messing with ripped assets and scenes

[broken crescent]

If you have the inventory settings disabled, probably not. If you have them enabled, it's possible, especially if the host doesn't

[quartz quartz]

I was playing solo 💀

But i had them enabled

Weird things happen with the apparatus only

[bold edge]

It's a W

[proud anvil]

Hey, nice update! is there a scannable lightswitch node now?

[sour rain]

i've heard more interiors has a bunch of apparatus bugs in general

[quartz quartz]

I think mostly when i remove it from its place

[quartz quartz]

They told me it’s not from them

[bold edge]

Yes, sir

[proud anvil]

heck yes, that's another mod I can debloat

[hoary shard]

What was the name of the mod to customize enemy spawn rates?

[quartz quartz]

I’ll create a new profile and try just facilitymeltdown, generalimprovements, and more_interiors together

Tomorrow tho

[bold edge]

YOOO It's rendering full body at the cam

[proud anvil]

This is actually a pretty big deal, can't ever remember this working

Nah doesn't work for me, too many mods stacked

[weary barn]

I just updated but my config isn't being applied with the better monitors?

From 1.1.4 to 1.1.5

ok..

I guess that save file decided to corrupt

:omegakek:

Disregard

[hoary burrow]

do you have weathertweaks

[weary barn]

no

[hoary burrow]

oh ok nvm then

cuz i ran into something similar with that mod

but yeah, some conflicts that don't load saves properly seem to also cause the BetterMonitors not to load in if enabled

[mighty lily]

do you think adding the "Heavy items stop mines from exploding" function would still be under the QoL umbrella of GI, or nah?

haven't seen any mod that restores that LethalExpansion functionality

[mighty lily]

(still haven't removed the old health mod i used)

[slate lynx]

1.1.5

[Info   : Unity Log] Key 'shipGrabbableItems' does not exist
[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
GeneralImprovements.Utilities.MonitorsHelper.ToggleExtraMonitorsPower (System.Boolean on) (at <5fc2bbd6619849179758207937ba427c>:0)
GeneralImprovements.Patches.ManualCameraRendererPatch.SwitchScreenOn (System.Boolean on, ManualCameraRenderer __instance, System.Boolean& ___isScreenOn) (at <5fc2bbd6619849179758207937ba427c>:0)
(wrapper dynamic-method) ManualCameraRenderer.DMD<ManualCameraRenderer::SwitchScreenOn>(ManualCameraRenderer,bool)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMD<StartOfRound::SwitchMapMonitorPurpose>(StartOfRound,bool)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMD<StartOfRound::Start>(StartOfRound)

[broken crescent]

Thanks, I'll check into that

[quiet sable]

Hey there, ever since the latest update nothing seems to be getting the monitors to work properly.

Its gone from the way I set it up, which was this

back to being vanilla, with only the quota, deadline, and the outside cam

This is happening when I start a brand new save file too

[broken crescent]

Ugh I must have inadvertently broke something, sorry. Mine were working before I deployed it.

Care to pass your config file to me?

[quiet sable]

i can certaintly try, I'm not sure where it is tho XD

only ever edited it thrugh the app

[broken crescent]

Ah yeah if you click open file instead of edit config it usually opens it with notepad or something

[broken crescent]

Awesome thanks I'll look into it as soon as I'm available

[quiet sable]

np

[shut violet]

Can confirm in my end as well.

[flint cloud]

Hey not sure if youre still looking into this but same thing is happening to me after i went from 1.1.3 to 1.1.4 and also 1.1.5. Additionally if I create a new save it just spits out a ton of TooManySuit errors

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100 FlipMods-ReservedItemSlotCore-1.8.17 FlipMods-ReservedWalkieSlot-1.6.2 FlipMods-ReservedFlashlightSlot-1.6.3 FlipMods-ReservedSprayPaintSlot-1.0.7 FlipMods-FasterItemDropship-1.2.1 FlipMods-MoreBlood-1.0.2 x753-Mimics-2.3.2 Ozone-Runtime_Netcode_Patcher-0.2.5 Sligili-More_Emotes-1.3.3 Sligili-HDLethalCompany-1.5.6 RugbugRedfern-Skinwalkers-4.0.1 Zaggy1024-OpenBodyCams-1.1.1 Jordo-NeedyCats-1.1.1 x753-More_Suits-1.4.1 FlipMods-LetMeLookDown-1.0.1 5Bit-VoiceHUD-1.0.4 Rozebud-FOV_Adjust-1.1.1 Suskitech-AlwaysHearActiveWalkies-1.4.4 Hexnet111-SuitSaver-1.1.4 EladNLG-EladsHUD-1.2.1 monkes_mods-JumpDelayPatch-1.0.1 IntegrityChaos-Diversity-1.1.10 Sv_Matt-HideModList-1.0.1 TheFluff-FairAI-1.3.2 extraes-LethalLoudnessMeter-1.0.2 NotAtomicBomb-TerminalApi-1.5.1 darmuh-darmuhsTerminalStuff-2.2.4 Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5 Evaisa-LethalLib-0.14.2 Evaisa-LethalThings-0.9.4 Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.6.1 quackandcheese-ToggleMute-1.3.0 CoNcept_Temple_Modding-Scooby_Doo_Crew_Suits-1.0.4 Verity-TooManySuits-1.0.5 mfwmt-SanrioSuits-1.3.1 Dwarggo-Fashion_Company-1.3.1 Park-Park_Suits-1.0.6 HomelessGinger-MaskedEnemyOverhaul-3.1.2 AinaVT-LethalConfig-1.3.4 ViViKo-BunkbedRevive-1.1.0 Bobbie-FixRPCLag-1.0.1 EliteMasterEric-CleanerLogs-1.0.0 Kirpichyov-SaveShipItemsOnDeath-1.0.2 sunnobunno-YippeeMod-1.2.3 EliteMasterEric-Coroner-1.5.3 FlipMods-BetterStamina-1.3.2 OnionMilk-crosshair-1.0.1 bctix-FPSCounter-1.3.0 SirTyler-BetterTeleporter-1.2.2 stefan750-LCUltrawide-1.1.1 jaspercreations-Scopophobia-1.1.1 NomnomAB-RollingGiant-2.5.0 Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2022.11.9 xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI-2.1.4 Piggy-MaskedAIRevamp-0.2.0 egeadam-MoreScreams-1.0.3 DerplingDevelopments-SavageCompany-1.1.3 ShaosilGaming-GeneralImprovements-1.1.5

[mighty lily]

also, any possibility of having a setting to control how fast the discount screen switches between promos? got 4 discounts today and it's wayy too fast

[weary barn]

Could this have corrupted my save?

I thought it was OBC

This was in log when loading a save i just left and it disables bettermonitors in that save specifically and deletes a ton of things

New saves are fine

[quiet sable]

idk anything about your save being corrupted

[weary barn]

That wasn't exactly meant for you

Just more of a chain to follow on your issue

[lavish dagger]

errr ever since the update, now i have two outside ship cams?

i even tested with just generalimprovements and result was the same

[slate lynx]

downgrade to 1.1.4 for now until a fix is released.

[lavish dagger]

ok

roger doger

[frigid bramble]

currently 1.1.5 breaks LCVR, just loads into a black void. idk if this happens in flat too, but i will do some more testing later

no errors in the log

[quiet sable]

It actually seems like 1.1.5 breaks a lot of stuff, the medical bay didnt load for us either?

here's the log from our most recent run

[broken crescent]

Geez what a destructive update.. I'm really curious what I changed that broke things

devs these days smh

[weary barn]

Smh my head

[flint cloud]

XD

[narrow oriole]

wrt this, @broken crescent I believe the cause here was that GameObject.Find("Environment/HangarShip/ShipModels2b/MonitorWall/SingleScreen")?.GetComponent<MeshRenderer>() was null

not sure if it was the screen itself that didn't exist or the mesh renderer

but in the function that stack trace points to, that's the only place I get the sharedMaterials

[hearty ivy]

hi @broken crescent so just for reference, if you dont enable UseBetterMonitors with latest update it just dont work and break Toomanysuits

btw, is it normal that when using bettermonitor + helmet camera my fps just tank a loot? like i tried ShipExternalCamFPS at 10 but doesn't seem to change anything should i do something with camSizeMultiplyer?

[hushed geode]

Question does this work with head camera's because everytime i try to setup the head cam it deletes the headcam from the monitor list for some reason 🤔

[hearty ivy]

use ExternalCam, not headcam

[hushed geode]

gotcha thanks

[novel sequoia]

Only cam people should be using is #1199570032196333648 :3

[hearty ivy]

is this better than solos or helmetcam?

talking about fps

[frigid bramble]

yes

[novel sequoia]

Yes

Also getting regular updates. Improving. Expanding.

[hearty ivy]

btw, just tested solos again since a long time, i can definitly confirm that for me i don't get better fps compared to helmetcam (with default cfg for helmetcam)

will test the new one then

[novel sequoia]

OBC supports Cosmetics AC/MC, Supports ModelReplacementAPI & VRM

Resolution customisation, filtering you can change (Point, Bilinear & Trilinear) etc

[hearty ivy]

seems nice

is it normal that im loosing a bunch of fps when using GI with UseBetterMonitor?

[novel sequoia]

Atm a little yeah, they're still working it all out but it shouldn't be that big of a drop tbh. 20fps at most maybe for me

[hearty ivy]

thats a lot when ur are running at 75 before that lol

thing is you can't use GI without Bettermonitor on true rn otherwise it just dont work and break TMS

might need to rollback waiting until an update drop

[broken crescent]

Fix for that (HOPEFULLY) going live shortly, just uploaded it

It's fun watching how many things a single missing null check breaks

[hearty ivy]

crazy

[novel sequoia]

^^^ @broken crescent Been all over it for past few days

[broken crescent]

This will hopefully fix:

• Players not respawning
• Missing medkit
• Broken monitors
• More, etc... I forget.

Like seriously one error at an important point and it just cascades

[novel sequoia]

When V50 hits :S

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487

[broken crescent]

yeah that worries me

[hearty ivy]

@novel sequoia open body cam is insane

[novel sequoia]

I know right 🙂

[hearty ivy]

for real, quick question should i delete all AC cfg when updating and generating new ones or its useless ?

[novel sequoia]

There shouldn't be any cfg files for AC only json's now 😛 which AC should update on fly

So technically no 😛

[hearty ivy]

oh yea was talking about the json's, or any folder that got created by AC

[echo ermine]

Sales monitor isnt centered and sometimes has an extra letter on the end (should only be one S)

[broken crescent]

That text is coming from whatever the item name is, I don't set it. It looks like they have too many S's and spaces or something

[hollow escarp]

Still have the issue of the round not starting and players not respawning.

[hollow escarp]

mod list

i uninstalled corporaterestructure and moreitems and that helped

[slate lynx]

are you using 1.1.6?

[hollow escarp]

ye

i guess corporaterestructure is conflicting with generalimprovements

[slate lynx]

GI already Increases the max items from 45 to 999
moreitems isn't needed.

[sharp grotto]

Heya, my modpack absolutely broke down last evening due to a mod update, and seems overnight more people have encountered such issue. I believe GI's last update might be behind it?

[slate lynx]

1.1.5 broke a few things
a hot fix was released 3 hours ago
1.1.6

[sharp grotto]

Yeah I just logged back in with the same modpack and everything seems alright after the update

That' good, thought I had to start removing random ones and figure out what did it

[hollow escarp]

the internal camera of the ship shows the outside instead even before the game starts

it works as intended for like 5 seconds then switches to exterior camera shortly after the speaker starts playing

[cerulean thunder]

Were you receiving any in-game error messages?

[hollow escarp]

yeah here

[cerulean thunder]

No like in the game itself, not the log

But yeah CR might be the issue, it has a bug that breaks mods that are supposed to load after it

[hollow escarp]

nah literally nothing happened in game

[cerulean thunder]

Gotcha. I asked bc I had an issue with CR the other day that wouldn’t let anyone join my lobby lol

Took me like an hour of testing to figure out oh I should just disable CR

[slate lynx]

you can get a screenshot of this?

[hollow escarp]

and right as the speaker audio starts it changes

[slate lynx]

can't get it to do that.
mind posting your config, ill run it and see if it breaks for me

[slate lynx]

yeah it works fine
another mod might have not liked the update?

[hollow escarp]

i guess

[hollow escarp]

its HelmetCameras thats doing it

[slate lynx]

good find thanks for the update
I would use OpenBodyCams, see if you like it better.

[hollow escarp]

i dont use it because the game has a chance to break when changing models (suits) with modelreplacementapi

[scarlet roost]

all i can say is that when you dont have BetterMonitors on. that screen with the OpenBodyCams is not working properly really

tried it before. it just changes

its either External or Internal cams

it will try to fight each other really

[slate lynx]

modelreplacementapi is broken to begin with
invisible dead bodies, hoping for a fix soon.

[scarlet roost]

got this out of it.

[slate lynx]

Toomanyemotes causes so many issues but that is hilarious
should report that in https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1199570032196333648

[bold edge]

Advanced company

[narrow oriole]

hwa? why is it showing a different texture on the monitor in the body cam??

what is going on here

[edgy tartan]

Sometimes they disappear...

[scarlet roost]

i dont know either ahaha

tho i think its because i set the camera from OpenBodyCams to "Body" and not "Head" cam

[half igloo]

Thats very weird then

So some other mod is changing my items and adding a s at the end of it? Would love to know which one it is

[narrow oriole]

the frame rendered to the screen should appear in the next frame regardless, I'm very confused

[broken crescent]

In this particular case, another mod having an error before my monitor code can be reached is probably causing them not to be created

[broken crescent]

Could you pass me your profile code so I can test this? I thought I fixed the bug with that function in 1.1.6

[edgy tartan]

No problem

I'll just check the assembly.

I'll post the code later

[edgy tartan]

I played in a party with the guys, we tested a lot

And it happened randomly

It is difficult for one person to play out this situation.

Yes, and I don’t even know why this happened

[regal elk]

For this feature, I wonder if it will be possible to have modded store items be included?

[sturdy roost]

Maybe if it's possible to find all store items in your game and make them all scannable

[edgy tartan]

018d6564-0fec-e2e4-2ce6-f10d7efe0529

I was able to reproduce the bug on a custom moon called "Abandoned Manor"
After which I landed, died inside the complex - the ship flew away and the screen disappeared

When landing again on the same moon, the monitor screens did not turn on

[broken crescent]

cool thanks

[echo ermine]

Peculiar

[broken crescent]

🤦🏼‍♂️ nevermind, I forgot my own code was trying to pluralize things... lol.

@echo ermine I'll have that fixed in the next update, sorry

Although I'm not adding a space, so I'm not sure why it's off center

[echo ermine]

There was a vanilla item that was off center as well I think

If it notice the issue again I'll let you know

[weary barn]

Ok, is this your mod or OBC @broken crescent

Removed OBC - Same issue occured, different log will be replying to this

Corrupted my save, again

Deletes majority of things on the ship

and just breaks other mods..

:omegakek:

Only when I quit and relaunch a save
Not when it's new

[quartz quartz]

it looks like OpenBodyCams from these errors

[weary barn]

Yeah, but I reported the same error last night and he said it wasn't

:omegakek:

[quartz quartz]

why are you using MoreCompany with AdvancedCompany?

[weary barn]

I'm not

I haven't touched that abomination in almost 2 months

[quartz quartz]

what's this?

[weary barn]

Probably because it's integrated in AC

[quartz quartz]

ahh

[weary barn]

AC took it and made it an actual usable mod
For simplicity, they made AC be able to use MC cosmetics

[quartz quartz]

which one is the abomination lmao

[weary barn]

MC

[quartz quartz]

i use MC i have no issue with it

all issues come from other mods

[weary barn]

I won't get into the politics of this and that

[quartz quartz]

i have no issues with either lmao

i was just looking at your mods

[plucky island]

MC still has to be enabled for cosmetics right or can it be removed

[weary barn]

Double check with #1186884307332108339

I don't bother with cosmetics

[regal elk]

No

You can remove MC because AC has a dummy dll of MC in their end for cosmetics stuff

[plucky island]

Oh okay cool thanks

[novel sequoia]

Bro's getting 80frame average on a 4070. 👀

[broken crescent]

Honestly it looks like that's coming from AdvancedCompany, I don't see my mod throwing any exceptions in that log file

[bold edge]

Lethal Things and Advanced Company

[weary barn]

It's so strange
Lethalthings always reports things even when it does nothing
It's something with how they have the debug setup as

I only know that because of previous logs showing same thing

I'll ask in AC

It just seems to be referencing the armor which is weird

I will cross reference these around

I assumed it was from here due to the fact it was very similar to someone else's

Thanks again though

[cerulean thunder]

peep the setup

[broken crescent]

Rocking that double weather display 🌞🌞

[broken crescent]

By the way, heads up there's a major mod conflict with Corporate Restructure at the moment, and will be fixed in the next update

I had a pretty busy day today otherwise I'd have it out already

[scarlet roost]

[LogNeuter 1.0.3] [CleanerLogs 1.0.0] - does these two affect logs output btw?

[ToggleDeafen 1.0.0.0] what is the purpose of this mod?

[cerulean thunder]

You bet 👉 😎 👉

[lavish dagger]

does the performance feel worse for people

[frigid bramble]

i felt like my performance was a little worse while playing today but no idea if it was this mod or not

[mighty lily]

yes

dunno about logneuter but cleanerlogs will stop stuff from logging, depending on your setup

you can make it so only errors will log

[scarlet roost]

i meant the output

[mighty lily]

on LogOutput? yes

i'm 99% sure

[scarlet roost]

so does it show all still on the logoutput when someone use those?

or just erased them entirely

[mighty lily]

i'm 99% sure it erases them entirely

[scarlet roost]

isnt that difficult to check errors when that happen?

[mighty lily]

yes

it's a tradeoff, stops logging for more performance, but you lose the logs

[scarlet roost]

i dont use any of those. so that i can check if mods are working

since i have 150+ mods

[mighty lily]

LogNeuter seems to be better for useless spam, like the AudioSpatializer one that's always spammed by Skinwalkers and such

[scarlet roost]

i think you can fix the configs for skinwalkers now right?

[mighty lily]

cleanerlogs is just a blanket ban to a certain type, so it's definitely not recommended if you actualyl wanna see what's going on

[mighty lily]

wdym? you could use the configs already, they weren't broken

[scarlet roost]

for logs

does skinwalker have anti log spam config now

[mighty lily]

it does not

i'm saying you could use LogNeuter to stop the console from spamming the AudioSpatializer error

[weary barn]

The log mods don't generally remove what is important unless you change it

[mighty lily]

yes but if you don't change it there's not much point in actually having them. i think cleanerlogs comes basically off by default

[weary barn]

Peace and Tranquility in large lobbies when necessary

[weary barn]

This would be wrong in both cases

🤓

I would say check them out to see for yourself

Besides, easily disabled for debugging if absolutely necessary

[mighty lily]

could you explain why? i installed cleanerlogs a good while ago and remember i had to go to configs to change the error levels since it wasn't actually deleting anything

then i removed it because alas, making a modpack comes with a billion errors

[weary barn]

It deletes the basic logs, also logs writing to the disk

Like, think of anything in white

A few of the mods do overlap in some areas but they all do their own thing for cleaning the logs

The only logs I keep enabled by default is warnings and errors as 7/10 they're the important ones

Some scenarios, sure you may need info logs

[mighty lily]

ah, only deletes the info logs as it comes stock, gotcha

must«ve been remembering wrong then

[weary barn]

If you search the discord, there's fellow members who explain better than I

Sometimes I'm tempted to disable errors with the damn polygon path bullshit

Makes my beefy system cry

[mighty lily]

no worries, i think i got it. I'm thinking of having my players have it turned on, but i'm 200% sure the second i do that something will break and i'll need logs that aren't there

[mighty lily]

oh this bad boy?

yeah it loves to spam the SHIT out of my logs and slow everything down to a crawl

from what i could gather by the logs a thumper walked into a mine while in the facility, blew up and got glitched out

#dev-general message

[weary barn]

That's hilarious

I love having thumpers blow up

[edgy tartan]

This is the monster AI swearing, outside

[mighty lily]

i do too, but this one thought it would be funny to blow my pc back as well. got to the ship at 17fps

[edgy tartan]

When they can't find the way or something like that

I don't know for sure, but that's what I was told

[mighty lily]

yep, monster AI does not like to be outside and also spams that like hell

[edgy tartan]

The biggest problem

These are birds

A lot of them

[mighty lily]

i'm probably gonna nab LogNeuter at least to take care of that and the AudioSpatializer errors

[edgy tartan]

The fewer monsters on the map and complex, the easier the console and the game

[edgy tartan]

You're welcome

[quiet sable]

We have a new problem, the general improvement monitors turned off and went back to default halfway through our game

when we close the game i can chuck a log

[weary barn]

@broken crescent Turns out it was an AC issue the entire time
Bulletproof vest is breaking saves for some reason
I appreciate your help

[edgy tartan]

The problem remains, perhaps it is because of them, but this is not certain...

[edgy tartan]

018d683b-a781-5318-a775-731b9f48df0a assembly

[broken crescent]

Is that on v1.1.7?

[weary barn]

I didn't like RPCLag

That mod did cause issues unrelated to this for me

[weary barn]

LogNeuter and Cleanerlogs literally clean the logs though - By that I mean, they just don't let certain outputs show

[edgy tartan]

the latest version

[edgy tartan]

Therefore, the productivity is higher

maybe I should just hide the console in beplinx?

[weary barn]

That's what I thought, but some of those mods also stop it writing to the disk

Which, also can be disabled in bepinex

which, I honeslty don't know why isn't enabled by default nor do I understand why BepInEx on the store is outdated

[edgy tartan]

because all moles work stably on version 11 of beplnix, upgrading to a new one means chaos and adaptation and possibly other problems. you always need a console to report information, but how the fuck does it eat FPS a lot

[weary barn]

Because it's spamming at a ridiculous rate that consumes resources

[narrow oriole]

really the solution would be to just make a mod that stops those enemies calling the pathfinding functions when they aren't on the navmesh

I think those are mostly called from centralized functions in EnemyAI, so it shouldn't be so bad to write a transpiler to do that

[bold edge]

Since you implemented monitors there's absolutely no need in it. It also destroys fps more than OpenBodyCams in 4k 😦
But thanks to you for fixing even this

[mighty lily]

all that i need right now is colored fancy weather

with white clouds, blue water and yellow sun

we already have yellow lightning pls i'll do anything for fancy colored weather

[bold edge]

Me: checking the weather on the terminal anyways

[regal elk]

Old habits die hard

[mighty lily]

also dunno if this is vanilla bug, but the main screen doesn't show the little video for vow

other moons work nice from what i've tested

[bold edge]

What video?

[mighty lily]

uuhh

[regal elk]

Me when we have scrap outside monitor but the terminal guy inside of me habitually just type scan

[mighty lily]

one sec

[bold edge]

I type scan because monitor shows incorrect values

Doesn't include bee hives as well

[regal elk]

I considered bringing back detailed scan mod on our pack since it is very accurate

[mighty lily]

i have it and never do the scan command

it's been on the modpack for a month

keep forgetting it exists

[bold edge]

Because its existence is uh.. pointless? Someone mentioned its use for bee hives and that's it

[mighty lily]

no like i don't even do the normal terminal scan

i forget they both exist

but mod stays there for some reason :V

gotta remove it

but first COLORED WEATHER PLEASE 😭 i'll even give a ko-fi donation

[regal elk]

LMAO

yeah sometimes I also forget because most of the time my friend group doesn't listen to the terminal guy anyway so I am like "sure fuck it we ball"

[bold edge]

Idk, I always go fire exit, gather 2 full inventories and then play on the terminal. Walkie + terminal = 100% loot gathered

There's no need in terminal guy till the 5PM anyways. Uh, maybe on Titan but it sucks so don't play Titan

[edgy tartan]

Please advise the config for Beplnix so that it spams as little trash as possible. Or should I just turn off the console?

Or disable writing to txt.file

I don't know

[clever pawn]

Changing logging levels in BepIn config only affects BepIn and Harmony logs, if I'm not mistaken.

[weary barn]

well you could disable the console altogether

[edgy tartan]

any information needed >.<

[clever pawn]

Logging to file still happens without console. Either way, logging shouldn't really affect your performance.

[weary barn]

You can also disable that

It shouldn't but does

You should check out BepInEx Config

[upbeat bane]

Should be this
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/matsuura/AutoScan/

[edgy tartan]

Thanks for the info

[clever pawn]

I know, but I don't think anyone should. Unless you're playing on a complete potato maybe.

CleanerLogs and LessLogs in their default configuration should be enough for most.

[raw lichen]

I found a fix for this.

So apparently this was being caused by the fact that by default in <= 1.1.7 the entire PlayerHUDHelmetModel was disabled (which includes "Plane"). Still have absolutely 0 clue as to why having this disabled would cause the radar camera to cause that artifact, and also only on the left eye. Moving the "Plane" one component up in the tree and keeping that enabled fixes the issue, while still keeping the first person helmet model disabled (now via config instead of forced).

Again no clue why this was an issue in the first place, especially since the plane material (at least what I inferred from the name) was only for applying effects like raindrops on the visor, and had 0 to do with rendering. But then again, Unity and modding rookie here, so it probably has a good explanation.

[narrow oriole]

oh, if you're moving it up the tree I hope you do it as late as possible, that might break OpenBodyCams trying to get the material

also, I did observe similarly weird behavior with that plane, in some inexplicable situations deactivating it in UnityExplorer did nothing (and yet it did stay deactivated)

it does the same thing when attached to the body cam as well, it's like the material sticks to the camera lol

if I make the body cam render to the screen it starts updating based on the visibility of the plane again

and yeah, the plane's material name of "GlassCondensation" doesn't seem totally accurate, but thankfully I didn't see that before I figured out what it did

also, @raw lichen since it will affect the occlusion culling when I finally get that ready for release, does VR use two Camera instances for the two eyes, or is there some stereoscopic mode to the camera that I'll need to account for somehow?

[raw lichen]

I don't touch the cameras (except for order in object hierarchy), but I believe Unity just has special sauce for XR MultiPass mode.

[narrow oriole]

hmm, interesting, hopefully it still calls the beginCameraRendering callback for both eyes then

[raw lichen]

By default it renders two eyes as SPI is incredibly unsupported, and the view on the monitor screen is the left eye

[raw lichen]

If that's how Unity does render then probably maybe, at least in Nvidia Nsight all the calls were doubled (from 26K base game to 52K with VR mod)

[narrow oriole]

what does SPI stand for? I can't seem to find anything

[raw lichen]

Single Pass Instanced

needs special shaders, though this game is 99% built in Unity shaders which support it

Though I can't seem to figure out how to instantiate it properly

Setting mode to SPI just completely messes up rendering. Right eye stops rendering, when in game the entire rendered view is projected onto one eye at the headsets FOV (looks very lovely jubly)

But if it for some reason is possible, it should make the performance sooo much better

[narrow oriole]

gotcha

that does sound like it wouldn't interact well with culling though

[raw lichen]

Oh that's even more fun

you can see the culling happening

Because the game thinks objects are out of your view, but you can still see them

[narrow oriole]

or at least it would be trickier, I think if I can get the location of both eyes, I can just do two culling passes and render their union

oh does that happen with frustum culling?

[raw lichen]

Slowly seeing the ship doors, cabinet doors, cabinet itself, light switch dissappear when you turn your head is pretty funny

[raw lichen]

idk it's just with the game + the mod (but set to SPI), nothing else

so whatever the game does out of the box

[narrow oriole]

should just be frustum culling, yeah

does SPI try to render frames with new head tracking data between updates as well? I assumed at first it's just for the two eyes in one frame, but technically it's probably also possible to do that

[raw lichen]

SPI is just one frame two eyes as far as I have seen

[narrow oriole]

gotcha

[raw lichen]

(On games that work that is)

[narrow oriole]

I know there's also screen-space warping that some games do to interpolate frames

[raw lichen]

There's no fancy interpolation or motion vectors stuff needed

[narrow oriole]

or generate frames more like

right, but it could probably do that on top of SPI I would imagine

(assuming Unity supports it)

[raw lichen]

Oh yeah SPI should support frame injection and stuff

Also since I believe that happens outside of the game itself

[narrow oriole]

yeah, afaik it's like a postprocessing step essentially

not sure how Unity feels about rendering off the main thread though

[raw lichen]

OpenXR forces a frame limiter

Its why the game runs on 45FPS with SSW/ASW enabled

Or 40 fps, depending on your refresh rate

[narrow oriole]

ah, it does make sense it would have to do that, otherwise frame timing gets very messy

[raw lichen]

Yeah, its also why the algorithms start failing when Fps becomes unstable since it doesnt know when to inject frames anymore

[long cradle]

Something seems to have stopped GI from making any monitor changes and I've had a heck of a time trying to narrow down what

Seems to be busting when used in conjunction with recent AdvancedCompany versions, hmm.

GI works with < v1.0.146 AC (so anything after v1.0.145 is ignoring monitor changes and indeterminate other settings.)

[dark belfry]

Do you have a way to visualize it because my shovel doesn't hit anything if I'm the host.

I imagine it is hitting the floor since that would be a shorter distance in front when I am angling down.

The shovel seems pretty useless right now tbh.

[fast lintel]

what can I write in here?

exactly?

[mighty lily]

ah, you'd write what you want each monitor to show

[fast lintel]

but

what

exactly

[mighty lily]

one sec

[fast lintel]

is the names

[mighty lily]

and if you need to know what monitor numbers are

[grave heron]

idk if it's accurate

but i hope it is

[mighty lily]

it is, was just about to pull something like that up

[grave heron]

alr

it's quite tricky if you use only default 8 monitors

you gotta use the numbers 1 to 8

[mighty lily]

i made this so i could plan out where i wanted everything

[grave heron]

i'm using default 8 monitors the game provides

and it looks like this

[sour rain]

idk, im also 99% of times the host and i struggle with the shovel

i figure im just bad with the shovel but maybe some server/client shenanigans make it more consistent for joinees

[mighty lily]

organized well honestly, i like it

[sour rain]

because my friends have a way easier time hitting stuff like spiders and hoarding bugs and it just does not feel as easy to me

[grave heron]

all i need really

i don't need fancyweather nor doorpower

and days

well

you know how it goes

[sour rain]

scrap in ship and sales are the two big ones

major QoL

i was kinda surprised how often stuff actually goes on sale

[mighty lily]

yeah, technically i don't need this either, but damn are all the monitors cool

[sour rain]

since i'm so accustomed to just spending all of our money at the company before/after we take off to avoid death penalties

[weary barn]

I'm glad it's not just me

Hitting masked is the worst with their fucking spaghetti arms

[grave heron]

you gotta hit it as it's half a second from your face

all about timing

and if it's focusing on you

[sour rain]

two nitpicky things that i'd like for consistency

"Light Switch" node should say "Light switch" to match the other scan nodes on the ship

also I accidentally overwrote my screenshot so I'll have to get one next time i'm on rend

but the fancy lamp has the "[LMB] : Toggle Light" text backwards

normal tooltips put the binding on the right and the action on the left

[dark belfry]

Yeah i notice when I'm not the host then I have an easy time hitting things.

[novel sequoia]

Actually opposite for me I find it annoying when things are not capitalised xD hahaha

[sour rain]

im bothered more by inconsistent capitalization

personally

i'm fine with either if it sticsk with one

really

[novel sequoia]

Yeah deffo haha one or other, no inbetween - it feels more noticeable where there's an incosistency! :L

[broken crescent]

Good catch on the fancy lamp. That's somehow one of my favorite additions of the mod lol

[steady sundial]

No one else having issues with General improvements not working well with other mods after v1.1.4? Every update after that has broken things.

[scarlet roost]

broken?

which ones?

been using the mod but i havent seen any problems so far

[steady sundial]

I need some one else to have test & show but it breaks multiple mods. v1.1.4 works great though so I'm just sticking to that version

[weary barn]

Thank God
I can no longer be blinded on rend or dine

[weary barn]

Can you be more specific

[steady sundial]

Last screenshot I have

It's not advanced companys fault

If I remember correctly LethalThings, skindwalker, ghostcodes all started throwing errors after 1.1.4

[weary barn]

Didn't we discuss this already

[steady sundial]

not w/ me 🤷‍♂️

[weary barn]

Or was that someone else

Very similar log

Gimme a sec

This reads like they're missing lethalthings?

So it declined them joining

[steady sundial]

yup

no one was missing mods

[weary barn]

So did you have them reinstall just in case?

[steady sundial]

We tried multiple times

[weary barn]

I've had countless times that thunderstore was the issue

[steady sundial]

Also framerate is noticeably lower on my end

[weary barn]

Similar to this i mean

[steady sundial]

only after 1.1.4

[weary barn]

The only mod I don't use from that list is ghostcodes

Otherwise, I have no issues

[steady sundial]

🤷‍♂️

[weary barn]

If this error occurs again
What I've done is:
Restart thunderstore
Restart LC
Restart Steam (may be overkill)
Delete the profile
Regenerate a new code (This is from you)
Then have them import
The issue isn't as common as it was but this was my "fullproof" solution that always worked
Also, ensure people DO NOT update mods if you haven't

This is for them, not you

On the restart / deleting

[steady sundial]

we tried this, multiple times... on different days

same results

[weary barn]

Hmm

[slate lynx]

what mods do you have?

[steady sundial]

big number

[weary barn]

Got a number?

[steady sundial]

triple digits I don't care to diagnose tbh, pack runs great right now. Was just scouting to see if some one had fix

109 atm

[weary barn]

Hmm
Just be careful with phrasing if you aren't going to probe out the definite issue

[steady sundial]

[slate lynx]

running fine for me on 1.1.7

[steady sundial]

Try having some one join u, works fine for me solo too

erros go burrrrr

[slate lynx]

i don't play solo

[steady sundial]

I'm trying 1.1.7 we'll see 🥱

[scarlet roost]

give your LogOutput

so we can address the the problem properly

[steady sundial]

I'm checking something

[scarlet roost]

anyway

question

are you running the game via steam

[steady sundial]

No Battle.net

[scarlet roost]

....

[steady sundial]

[scarlet roost]

i really need a Police badge for asking this and catching illegal users but..

im asking seriously.

[steady sundial]

thunderstore/r2modman

[scarlet roost]

the game

do you own the game via steam

[steady sundial]

yes

FPS difference between 1.1.4 vs 1.1.7 is 30 frames when landed on experimentation 🥱

[scarlet roost]

since most mods are meant to work with the new update. most breaks with the cracked version and they keep asking for help which is kinda common lately. which is why i asked btw

[polar kelp]

:pirate_flag: Hello, @scarlet roost! You appear to have mentioned a cracked or pirated version of the game. Note that a large number of mods do not work at all with those and you're completely on your own for support. We here at the Lethal Company Modding Community do not condone piracy

[steady sundial]

The game is 10$ bro....

[scarlet roost]

true

i even bought 20 copies of it to my friends

[sterile jewel]

mrbeast over here damn

[steady sundial]

Flexing 💀

[scarlet roost]

so that i have someone to drag with me

i cant play the game alone lol.

i wont be able to test mods that way

[steady sundial]

Well my FPS average is 105 on 1.1.4 so I'm just sticking with it for now

[scarlet roost]

i need test subjects

[steady sundial]

Shit I need test subjects appearantly

[scarlet roost]

you guys set your gpu to dedicated mode too right?

and some gpu Performance mode too

[steady sundial]

Yea my Pentium is chugging

btw that does nothing on desktops but make it run at full speed when it doesn't need to

[scarlet roost]

for nvidia gpus? it does btw

[steady sundial]

💀

[scarlet roost]

so ask your crew if they did

[steady sundial]

I've tried, no measurable difference

[scarlet roost]

or else. they will die from IGPU usage lol

[steady sundial]

3440x1440 eats at my 4080 anyway

[scarlet roost]

like a certain someone i know. they were playing on IGPU the entire time and kept breaking the mods we had

[steady sundial]

tell them to stop being poor?

[scarlet roost]

on their view. the modded suits were all default suits. and they were desyncing the crew

[scarlet roost]

it wasnt that. it was because they didnt set their gpu to dedicated mode

[steady sundial]

Not optimizing ur modpack 👏

[scarlet roost]

it works fine with a guy that has 1080 gpu lol

[steady sundial]

if ur on a laptop and u want it to cook sure it helps

desktops no

[scarlet roost]

basically he didnt set his 2080 gpu. was playing on his internal

[steady sundial]

Ok yea like I said, desktops tend to not have this issue 😆

[scarlet roost]

he was on desktop

[steady sundial]

l

m

a

o

[scarlet roost]

i was on laptop and i had 144 fps on a 1660ti

[steady sundial]

user error

Lemme use my cpu's igpu for giggles

[scarlet roost]

lol

[steady sundial]

🥱

[scarlet roost]

why is it so dark lol

[steady sundial]

diversity

skill issue if u can't see in the dark

[slate lynx]

diversity doesn't work nice with ghostcodes btw
and it breaks rng

[scarlet roost]

that would be darker in some modded moons with dark moonlights

[scarlet roost]

it was working in the old versions. tho now they are broke

[steady sundial]

Fix ur configs and it works better

[slate lynx]

i did just making you aware but it seems you knew

[steady sundial]

I do know it was annoying

I only use it for randomly closing doors

[scarlet roost]

with current version. the GCodes doesnt work

that includes InsanityRemastered

well InsanityRemastered is kinda bricked now since its deprecated

[steady sundial]

^ yep

[scarlet roost]

not sure about GhostCodes

[steady sundial]

Insanity is hit or miss, works when it wants too

[scarlet roost]

tested that mod but i didnt get to see fake interns

i just end up having a dance off with my doppelganger most of the time

[steady sundial]

sounds bout right but I did get interns once in awhile

018d6cc2-7495-7f7d-816b-26134c388348 < Go crazy go stupid IG

[novel sequoia]

Are you hosting?

[keen wraith]

suits

[cold minnow]

Hello, I believe General Improvements affects FPS, I disabled all of my mods except General Improvements to check if it was one of the reasons why I have been getting less FPS than usual. This could be an issue on my end maybe my device but yeah. Please correct me if I am wrong in what I say.

I love the mod, but I believed I should let you know,

[sour rain]

the monitor stuff seems to cause framerate issues for some

i'd suggest changing as much of the monitor settings as you can to their defaults

[cold minnow]

Yes I attempted to use defaul it still affects my game

Actually wait

[sour rain]

outside of that im not totally sure what else eats up performance

[cold minnow]

When you install the mod fresh is the monitor settings all default/vanilla?

[sour rain]

i would set both of the FPS limit settings to "0" as well - uncapped framerate can actually perform better than setting the FPS to a low value

[sour rain]

depending on when you installed the mod

i think if you install it now, everything is vanilla by default

[cold minnow]

Yeah I did

[weary barn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

Is that due to poor optimization or engine

[sour rain]

idk i think it's some HDRP shenanigans

[weary barn]

Ah interesting

Thanks for the tip (I wasn't having issues but I'm not against optimizing )

[frigid bramble]

.

[weary barn]

Thanks

[hearty ivy]

hey is this normal that Gi tank a lot of my fps like around 20 ? @broken crescent

[scarlet roost]

@broken crescent is there a way to remove the green tint on your cams?

or at least adjust the green tint to greyish

[weary barn]

Asking the real questions

Would love to make external cam useful

[quiet sable]

Feature Request, on the sales monitor, it should also say any sales in the Lategame Upgrades store

[solemn granite]

? There are LGU sales??

R u sure?

[weary barn]

Yes

They exist

Goober

[solemn granite]

Ain’t no way since when!!!

[weary barn]

Always
Like all sales, they're just rare

I don't bother waiting on sales tbh

[weary barn]

In general, the system is so hit or miss

[quiet sable]

Yeah there's always been

[broken crescent]

Ok so FPS seems to be an issue for some people and to be honest I'm not sure why yet. The problem started around the same time I added monitors, so a couple updates ago I stopped calling any of the monitor code if they use default settings in [Extra Monitors]. But that doesn't seem to fix it much.

I can't think of what else would even be causing it, I'm not using any heavy Update() calls that I know of. I'll keep searching for the cause.

For me, if I land on a moon, in one example I get an average of 70 fps without my mod, and maybe 65 fps with it (with default monitor settings) so I'm having trouble even diagnosing it.

[scarlet roost]

fps issues?

i dont get those fps issues

i kinda set the monitors unrestricted

set the resolution to 2

[steady sundial]

what the fuck

[scarlet roost]

?

[steady sundial]

the cascade of monitors

[tawny night]

they prob have #1199570032196333648

[scarlet roost]

the Bettermonitors that makes it 15 monitors?

[tawny night]

that too

[scarlet roost]

its this mod's config tho

[steady sundial]

that's too much 😆

[scarlet roost]

the diff is open body cams. i removed the green tint

cuz its painful to the eyes

[scarlet roost]

i cant see my character on the internal monitor

@broken crescent the internal cam went weird. i didnt do anything except delete ModelReplacementAPI on my mod list and now i cant see my model in the cams

[drifting quail]

i have the same but it only sees modelreplacementapi outfits and not normal ones

[scarlet roost]

funny. with the ModelReplacementAPI downloaded. it works. tho i dont have any suits that needs ModelReplacementAPI. ill just keep it like a fix

kinda a funky mechanic

[queen summit]

I'd like to see compatibility with Advanced Company and other mods that add new tools/equipment.

Setting ScannableTools to All only allows to scan for vanilla items :/

[grave heron]

glad to help