General Improvements

[scarlet roost]

and not even touch it

[hoary burrow]

I mean that could just be done by placing down a Radar Booster

[scarlet roost]

still needs switching

can we even override the camera focus that is bound to the players?

[hoary burrow]

Ooookay I think I'm only just starting to get what you mean

That would be dope I guess and wouldn't cause any trouble with the teleporters

[scarlet roost]

well anyway. i want a fixed radar for the ship's area surveillance

and add that on one of the cameras

since on the 10 only camera. one is open on my end atm

i dont have anything to add on those 5 cameras from the extra monitor options

[dense sky]

FPS is improved from the last version
i lose about 10 FPS in the ship with better monitors turned on facing towards the monitors
40-50 FPS outside

before this my FPS was cut in half (75-85)

[bold edge]

Deleting corporate restructure improved my fps by 60 💀

[scarlet roost]

never used that Corporate Restructure

[bold edge]

It was used by everyone before the GI monitors feature

[scarlet roost]

oh

i only used the body cams one

which isnt compatible with Advanced company because if you do. the body cams will not run smoothly. it would be like a delayed old school camera.

where can i find the internal one

lemme try it again

does it only show when im in orbit?

it showed for a milisecond. then went back to the external

[broken crescent]

You can't modify where the internal cam shows unless you have UseBetterMonitors, since the structure of the monitors mesh is different. If you don't put anything in position 7, you should see it. Although I'm not sure why it's not in your screenshot - perhaps another mod is turning it off

[scarlet roost]

i only have bodcams for monitor

i dont have anything else tho

[long cradle]

I wanted to try to use the left big extra monitor for ship internal cam but it doesn't seem to wanter render player models with Advanced Company's MoreCompany cosmetics replacement -- I just get floating cosmetics.

[broken crescent]

I forget if that mod is doing anything to the internal cam, I don't think it is but I could be wrong

[scarlet roost]

lemme try something

ill go switch the deadline and the internal cam

[hoary burrow]

Bodycams automatically replaces the internal camera I believe unless you specify in that config which GeneralImprovements monitor to use.

@broken crescent Couple more small bugs:

• Quota scan node seems to be locked to the default position again.
• Center align monitor text doesn't seem to work on your text (it's always centered), but strangely enough it works on CR's monitor text if that mod is enabled.
• Migration only worked partially for me (monitors 1 and 2 migrated successfully with all of them enabled, the rest were blank)

[dense sky]

is there any option in this mod I can change to prevent the 40-50 FPS drops outside? i don't personally mind it but i have a friend that struggles with FPS

update: i disabled UseBetterMonitors, which brought it from 40-50 to 10 fps drops outside

[scarlet roost]

it shows for a fraction

what are you using for the body cam?

[hoary burrow]

OpenBodyCams

[scarlet roost]

ill replace bodycams

but now the external cam is gone ahaha

replaced

also yeah

Solos Body cam is not compatible with the cams at least

[scarlet roost]

i think i broke it XD

ill just reset the configs i guess

[scarlet roost]

is it just me or the ship cam is a bit low? is that supposed to be that way once we change it to face forwards?

or is it because im too near the front of the ship?

[scarlet roost]

body cams does actually touch the cameras

[vapid shell]

🥺

my config

[frigid bramble]

aren't they automatically migrated now

[vapid shell]

Yea but then CR broke,

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-gif-26570365

At this point, do I just give up on keeping corporate restructure

[slate lynx]

yes

[scarlet roost]

what does that mod even do

first time hearing it

[slate lynx]

same thing it just has some extra metrics
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Jamil/Corporate_Restructure/

[scarlet roost]

oh

it makes it detailed

does it work on custom moons?

[vapid shell]

The things that GI does not yet do that CR does is

• Weather Color change on the monitor
• Day counter
• Credit Counter

And I really like the Weather Color indicator

[mighty lily]

until the end of the week we shall have that and more

Shaosil just built different

[scarlet roost]

would love door buttons on the new 3rd big monitor like the buttons on the radar one for the players

for opening and closing the doors while in front of the big screen

so i can remove that front door button mod

the only reason why im not using the better monitors cuz my group tend to stay further back a lot

specially when im fighting mimics or masked

they dont cancel the masked converting me to be a monster

they would just stare at me dying lol

[slate lynx]

@broken crescent was the behavior of the ship on scrap changed? it use to update when I dropped loot on the ship. now it only updates when I take off.
just updated the mod from v1.0.22 to v1.1.2

[scarlet roost]

btw on the wiki page. can we have the compatible mods that works with your cameras? i also want to use the better cameras but i dont really have anything to put on the cams

and the Door buttons on the new big monitor would be a nice addition to replace that floating door buttons

[vapid shell]

Woah

Is anyone else getting this ghost item inv bug

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1S78uRZMmkm62V/d1337SZa08Ws?invite=cr-MSx0QWwsMTQ3NDQxNTIs

[broken crescent]

Yeah a bit, I'll have to test to see if I'm missing anything when I call in the drop hook now, thanks for the heads up

[slate lynx]

Np

[vapid shell]

@broken crescent Sorry to ask, but do you have any idea what could be causing that in the clip above?

[harsh delta]

the newest update is causing me not able to start the ship when leaving a planet, and the day doesnt go from 3 to 2, it stays at 3

so it says "ship must land"

or something when hovering over the lever

[scarlet roost]

what did you update?

only GI?

[harsh delta]

yes

[scarlet roost]

should be some mod conflicts

dunno which tho

send your logs to them

cuz i dont have that issue with the update

[scarlet roost]

solo?

or with peeps?

cuz i doubt that should happen on solo. so it should be a desync issue with people

[slate lynx]

I've seen this happen to any mod that changes slot count.

[scarlet roost]

mine was teh HexiBetterShotgun mod. it desyncs us when we play

[scarlet roost]

more like speed

its the switching speed

[slate lynx]

LethalProgression
Hotbarplus
AC slot larger then 4.

[scarlet roost]

we tried that before

a friend of mine even bug his game to black screen to only seeing huds

[slate lynx]

Depends on ur modpack

[scarlet roost]

from switching too fast and able to charge the flash light when he was holding scraps

[slate lynx]

But with the mod alone it can happen with desync.

[scarlet roost]

i use both LethalProgression and Hotbarplus

[vapid shell]

hm

[scarlet roost]

but i set the scroll speed for fast switch a bit near to vanilla speed

cuz switching to fast sometimes desyncs us

or end up missing some stuff at the ship

[broken crescent]

My best guess is it's related to the inventory management stuff being enabled, that can cause desyncs if the host doesn't have it enabled as well. It could also be a mod conflict

[vapid shell]

Im doing some solo testing with AdvancedCompany, GeneralImprovements, and the bug doesnt happen

[broken crescent]

Yikes, that's not good. I've seen that happen with other Quota Rollover mods, any chance you have those?

[harsh delta]

i do not

[harsh delta]

also caused :an error while syncing ship objects the file may be corrupted please report this glitch

when my friend tried joining

[broken crescent]

Ok, I haven't seen either of those things in my mod yet but there may be something in the logs

[harsh delta]

i have my logs disabled so let me enable that rq

also whats the path to the logs

[broken crescent]

WIth r2modman you can just click Browse profile folder and it's usually titled LogOutput.txt or something after a session

[harsh delta]

@broken crescent

hope thisis the right one

[broken crescent]

Ok, other than finding a problem with my migration code (thanks for that lol), I don't see any log entries from my mod. If you have PickupInOrder, RearrangeOnDrop, and TwoHandedInSlotOne all set to false, and that still happens, I can almost guarantee it's from another mod

[harsh delta]

its so weird it works on previous ver and not newest

[vapid shell]

It was an issue with Cullfactory i believe

[sour rain]

profit quota and deadline screens don't update for me at all

anybody else? or possible mod conflict

[vapid shell]

Holy hell

Is this GI?

[frigid bramble]

cullfactory does not affect items in any way

[vapid shell]

I thought that too

So thats why i was hella confused when the issue stopped when I removed that mod

[vapid shell]

I didnt see this in the update log? when was that added

[frigid bramble]

are you talking about the monitor above the buttons? that has always been there

[weary barn]

Quick note on a "bug"
With the touch screen monitor mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheDeadSnake/Touchscreen/
and enabling BetterMonitors, the option for changing the camera via the button doesn't want to work because of some weird overlap when standing in front of the screen, however if you crouch in front of it, the switch camera button, you're able to

This is a new issue I've noticed since enabling BetterMonitors

Edit: On this, you can't even use the touch screen mod because it's as if the screen is that is the "touch screen" is in the middle of the 2 monitors on the left side

[vapid shell]

this is genuinely my first time seeing it

[solemn granite]

ikr XD

[edgy tartan]

For some reason I don't drown in the mud. Does this have anything to do with this mod?

[upper pine]

Do you have the Diversity mod as well? That's a known issue with it

[edgy tartan]

Yes, it's installed

Is it because of him that this is a problem?

[upper pine]

Yeah

[edgy tartan]

Is there anything that can be changed in the config to make the dirt work?

Or does just a complete shutdown help?

[upper pine]

As far as I know no. I believe they said it will be fixed in the next update. You can go to https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1185408109414449202 to ask about it though

[edgy tartan]

OK, thank you for the information!

[vapid shell]

diversity

oop

didnt see someone already answered

[mighty lily]

on vanilla it has the outside cam on it

pretty sure

[vapid shell]

Also no matter what I do I cant move InternalCam

[mighty lily]

seeing as every screen renders above the monitors, maybe it's intended behavior?

[edgy tartan]

What monitor color should I use to make it black?

[vapid shell]

The one said in the config

[mighty lily]

i use the color that's recomended in the configs, think it's 050505

[mighty lily]

hell yeah

[vapid shell]

But then why is there an option to MOVE internalcam

What I'm asking because it should be on cam 8

[mighty lily]

you can put it somewhere else and it'd render like the rest of the monitors? but that one will always have it working under

ooh, i'm dumb then

[vapid shell]

But it hasnt moved from it's spot

[mighty lily]

i see what you're saying now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1199836228858675330/1201061655505813574/image.png?ex=65c872d5&is=65b5fdd5&hm=429b1f0a6172512da70c1e86848c88617dbbaed58c9a6305f1e90643835e337a&

i see now i had mine stay in the same place

my mods ain't working right now, so can't go test on my end

[vapid shell]

Also something interesting

[clever pawn]

I never tried it, but what does sales monitor show?

[clever pawn]

...

[proud anvil]

lol nothing useful yet

[edgy tartan]

I think they need to team up with the mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/akechii/DiscountAlert/

Good guy

[proud anvil]

I was just about to paste this!

[edgy tartan]

I have never seen more than 3 discounts

[proud anvil]

Seems like something that would be hard to fit on a monitor anyway

[edgy tartan]

With a long name - yes

But if you display it on a large monitor, there will be no problems with it

[proud anvil]

true

[ember sparrow]

hihi, my friends keep seeing this despite me seeing the proper quota and deadline, is this an issue with this mod? they also couldnt see items i dropped for whatever reason

[edgy tartan]

GameMaster

Usually he sets these values ​​at the beginning of the game

Turn it off and there will be no problems

[ember sparrow]

are you refurring to a mod or a config setting?

[crude widget]

nah it was happening to me too pretty sure its a bug

[weary barn]

I submitted a github issue request on this also for Touchscreen mod, as I'm not sure who is going to need to make changes

[edgy tartan]

To fashion

Mod GameMaster

[ember sparrow]

same with the item thing? cuz if so it might just be the mod

[ember sparrow]

i dont have a mod called gamemaster unfortunately

[crude widget]

items were fine i believe but the quota screen/deadline stayed like that

[ember sparrow]

aight ill try disabling it if anything 🙏

[crude widget]

seems to only be joining other lobbies

[ember sparrow]

yeah everything was normal for me but for everyone else everything just broke

[edgy tartan]

Then I have no idea, any mod that changes the gameplay, quota

[ember sparrow]

just disabling the mod fixed it for now

the item issue wasnt fixed tho,,,

[mighty lily]

Discount monitor currently not working, as per Shaosil himself

[near lodge]

After update to recent version from 1.1.0, my framerate drop like 15% when outside the ship

its seems like the same problem that openbodycam has experienced before, but now it's fixed

[vapid shell]

Also 2 more things to note.

Has anyone's FastCamSwitch ever worked? I can't get mine to work.

[bold edge]

I'm using terminal commander for this purpose

[vapid shell]

Also the externalCam doesn't display the outside accurately for me, I feel stupid

you should be able to see the shovels and bugs at that one corner

Also i swear that externalcam at the back of the ship is brand new

[edgy tartan]

In my build, the synchronization of monitors was lost among clients

[vapid shell]

damn.

[edgy tartan]

And the host has it possible

[oblique sequoia]

mine does work with this

[vapid shell]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-gif-26570365

Time to spend 2 hours trying to figure out why its not working for me

[weary barn]

The best part!

I'd start with looking at any mods that touch the terminal

[vapid shell]

I have a wild wacky idea

[edgy tartan]

Some kind of out of sync, I can’t figure out why

The host shows the first quota, but we don’t understand what

There are no errors in the console

The problem is not the translator, it was turned off - the same thing happened

[harsh delta]

Yeah I downgraded and it worked on previous ver

Something in the new version is conflicting with another mod

[quick lodge]

what version did you downgrade to? having the same issue

[harsh delta]

The one right before the latest

[quick lodge]

thx

[harsh delta]

yerp. wonder if we have most of the same mods@

not sure what’s conflicting@

but now there are three people this has happened too including me

[quick lodge]

if id had to guess advanced company or something that edits the monitors like solos_bodycams

[harsh delta]

I don’t use advanced company but I do use open body cams

Corporate re constructed or whatever

[broken crescent]

This will be fixed shortly

[sour rain]

👍

[weary barn]

Just bumping this

[weary barn]

If any clarification is needed, just lmk

[broken crescent]

Would you mind adding the missing details to the issue here so I don't lose track of it?

https://github.com/Shaosil/LethalCompanyMods-GeneralImprovements/issues/78

[weary barn]

Oh I didn't even see this

Yeah definitely

[broken crescent]

Cool thanks, and no worries, I already forget about some of the outstanding issues >.>

[weary barn]

I just found this issue myself today, lol

[inner furnace]

I can and it was very easy

Btw by default when u added GeneralImprovements there is a new config made on "OpenBodyCams" which set the Camera to "0" instead of "14"

[weary barn]

I submitted any details I found that may be helpful.
Excited to use BetterMonitors again
Thanks!

[bold edge]

@broken crescent Does GI has confilcts with LethalLib?

[solemn granite]

No

[bold edge]

Weird, I wasn't able to enter the server with it

[broken crescent]

Just pushed v1.1.3, hopefully going live soon. I know there's a lot of other outstanding bugs but I had to prioritize a few of these things, and I added a couple monitors people have been wanting in the meantime

[hoary burrow]

Out of curiosity, how does the sales monitor work if there are multiple things on sale? Will it scroll through them?

[broken crescent]

In theory it should flash each on the screen for 1 second, but I didn't test whether that works lol

[hoary burrow]

Ah, alright lol

guess we'll find out 😄

[broken crescent]

I went through a whole quota and only got one sale on the final day -_-

[hoary burrow]

unluckee

[vapid shell]

Oh wow new update

I wonder if that InternalCam bug is fixed

[novel sequoia]

Recent update is disabling other Crosshair mod @broken crescent

[broken crescent]

Yeah that's a known issue on my Github page, I haven't had a chance to figure out why yet, and there's no errors

[novel sequoia]

Yeah there's literally no errors or info in debugger

[hoary burrow]

I know you're still in bugfixing mode and that should definitely take priority, but I just wanna make this suggestion for later before I forget about it 😄

Suggestion: Allow the config entries for the monitors to hold multiple values that will automatically be toggled through. Example screenshot below.

The rate of toggling could be done via a separate config entry to control all of them, or each type in an entry could be followed up by an integer to determine how long it stays on screen, similar to how custom interior mods handle which moons they have a chance to spawn on.

[novel sequoia]

@broken crescent I fixed it on my end

[broken crescent]

I like that and I'll add it to my backlog, it'll take a bit of recoding though (shouldn't be harder than the last config update I did though, that was a bit hefty too)

[novel sequoia]

When bettermonitors=true crosshair is working again

So it's only when happening when not using bettermonitors var, could some text alignment cause it not to be on screen seeing there's no error or anything?

So crosshair might be there but just not on screen visibility

[broken crescent]

That's bizzare but good info, thanks

[novel sequoia]

Really bizzare haha but yeah no problem ❤️

Ow that was 1.1.2 sorry I didn't get 1.1.3 now it pushed to me, will double check with 1.1.3 to still see if case

@broken crescent You already fixed problem in 1.1.3 all good, it was alignments

@broken crescent Double tag just incase you're investing already ❤️

[bold edge]

Shaosil, you should write acceptable values for monitors in config as you did with scannable tools

[hoary burrow]

Oh yeah, those are there but they don't show in LethalConfig for some reason.

You can see them if you edit the config manually or through the mod manager

[broken crescent]

Yeah I have them in there, not sure why the config mod won't pick it up though

[solemn granite]

Update lethal lib! If that doesn’t work, downgrade to the 1.3.2 version

[bold edge]

Nah, I don't use it but a lot of players in random lobbies do so I can't join like half of the servers with GI installed

[broken crescent]

If you have any host required settings on (such as the medkit) then it will fail when you try to join someone who does NOT because it tries to sync network prefab objects

[bold edge]

Oh, so THIS is the problem

You should make the warning about that because I've spent hours to recheck all mods and find the issue XD

[broken crescent]

haha yeah sorry, I can try to make it more clear in the Readme

[bold edge]

I mean in here 😄

[novel sequoia]

@broken crescent Amazing update ❤️

[bold edge]

Suggestion: MoonScrap on monitor

[broken crescent]

That's on my list 🙂

[bold edge]

😆

[whole walrus]

Door power is a thing?

Why am I so behind on this

[solemn granite]

What’s your body camera mod! And how does your fps look when it’s on?

[novel sequoia]

Flawless

OpenBodyCam

[novel sequoia]

Leave the FPS as it is, don't touch it let it be unrestricted.

[solemn granite]

Gotcha :P whenever it’s active and I’m looking at myself, it seems to cause my fps to drop

[solemn granite]

What does UR fps look like! Cause I see you have internal camera on a big screen :P

[solemn granite]

It’s unrestricted 👍

Thanks tho!

[bold edge]

130-ish with 10 fps and 3 on the quality and 90-ish when maxed out on both cameras

@narrow oriole this function is not here yet, correct?

[narrow oriole]

what do you mean not here yet?

the config option exists and works

or it did before

[bold edge]

I wanted to set it to the left so I put 13 but it's black

[vapid shell]

Um

help?

[narrow oriole]

it appears to work on my end

[bold edge]

Okay, I have to try again

[vapid shell]

(pssst, yo what color code did you use for your background)

[novel sequoia]

That was just the stanard black 050505

[broken crescent]

There's a bug with credits and sales if you don't use the new style monitors, it will be fixed in the next update

[vapid shell]

what

[novel sequoia]

I did a greeny colour to see if I like it to match main

[novel sequoia]

colorhex

[vapid shell]

no i understand

but usually my 050505 looks very black

unless tha update changes the way it actually applies that color

[novel sequoia]

bring lighter a little then 😛

use paint

[novel sequoia]

Colour Picker

[vapid shell]

You aint even know how many hours ive wasted on trying

[bold edge]

Yeah, sorry, it works! (DisableCameraWhileTargetOnShip was on)

[narrow oriole]

ahh, I see

[broken crescent]

@vapid shell there's a difference in those screenshots - one of you has the backgrounds completely disabled (which only works if UseBetterMonitors = False), and the other one has the color set.

If the backgrounds are disabled, the color will not affect anything

[bold edge]

Default is false, so it's ok

[novel sequoia]

@vapid shell

[vapid shell]

The configs hate me.

[broken crescent]

Yeah so if ShowBlueMonitorBackground = false, and UseBetterMonitors = false, those backgrounds will not be used at all (and the color won't matter)

[novel sequoia]

Ow and that ^

xD

[vapid shell]

So I have to have ShowBlueMonitorBackground in order for the color changes to work without UsebBetterMonitors?

[broken crescent]

Correct - it's a bit misleading because I had that before I supported color changes, so it's called "Blue"

[novel sequoia]

For now yeah

[broken crescent]

I'll rename it at some point probably

Also the config is generally confusing because I have to support both the old and new styles

[vapid shell]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gojo-gojo-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-friday-gif-21690723

[broken crescent]

(and recently, neither because people complained)

[vapid shell]

Also quick question

Actually 2

is there any way of changing the position of InternalCam without useing BetterMonitors

Cuz no matter what

[novel sequoia]

no

[vapid shell]

It wont move

2nd Question

Does FastCamSwitch with the arrow keys ONLY work for players, because Ive tried testing it with my 5 (don't ask) radar boosters and i got a whole lotta nothin

[novel sequoia]

You have to be on the terminal I thought?

I only know this because AC's Portable Terminal also counts for being at the Terminal 😛

[bold edge]

Fun fact. Changing BodyCams to 13 and InternalCamera to 14 causes fps loss. Around 15% less

[novel sequoia]

Tbh I see it all running my flawlessly when you leave it all unrestricted.

[narrow oriole]

while looking at the screens?

[novel sequoia]

Yeah it will be whilst looking at screens

[bold edge]

Yep, but let me do some more tests

[novel sequoia]

I think guessing they're reffering to 😛

[bold edge]

Maybe it's just a random fps drop from my PC

[novel sequoia]

Nah it's global @bold edge 😛

[narrow oriole]

have you experienced it as well?

[novel sequoia]

Yeah I get FPS drops when capping FPS on the cams too

Only with Internal/External cams

[narrow oriole]

I don't think we're talking about the framerate caps

the framerate caps do cause fps loss for framerates above 30 from my experience

[novel sequoia]

the FPS drops happen when looking at the cams whilst capping fps for those cams 😛

[narrow oriole]

that's normal

[novel sequoia]

I found leaving it unrestricted is better performance.

[narrow oriole]

unless you have the fps limit down in the range of 1-20 I would say that it's likely you'll see reduced performance

[novel sequoia]

When it's unrestricted I don't get big drops in FPS when looking at cams

[narrow oriole]

also @broken crescent I realized that I don't know if anyone including me explained (my theory for) why the fps limit causes reduced performance: Camera.Render() has to render immediately to render based on what is enabled/disabled/in layers/allowed to render at the moment it is called, so that means it has to set up and tear down the render pipeline twice in a frame

not sure if the 5fps default you ship with consistently provides improved performance considering that you may be applying that overhead multiple times per frame where they render

[novel sequoia]

This was my exact though to be honest.

[bold edge]

Upd. Swapped monitors 3 more times. Appears to be my PC random fps drop. Nothing caused by the mod

[narrow oriole]

ahh, okay, good

[novel sequoia]

no staggers in performance with this for me

[narrow oriole]

that kind of drop would've been very unexpected unless the resolution of one of the cameras changed

[novel sequoia]

So it corelates to what you're saying I think @narrow oriole

[narrow oriole]

tbf my theory is based on the symptoms I see, so I could be not entirely correct

but either way, it does cause reduced performance the more often Camera.Render() is called outside the render phase

[broken crescent]

Yeah honestly every time I try to understand the render pipeline I give myself a headache. That's a whole other beast of programming

[fossil minnow]

how do you use the new monitors?

[broken crescent]

Set UseBetterMonitors = True

[solemn granite]

IKR!!!!

thats happened to 3 PEOPLE now

(including me)

[bold edge]

I AM THE CAMERA by this point

[broken crescent]

🧐

[novel sequoia]

#NeedMoreCams

I do have a question actually xD

WHy left monitor showing cam different? ._.

[broken crescent]

The cool thing is, if I'm not mistaken, no matter how many times or which screens you display the cam on, it has the same performance hit. It should just be showing you the render texture, not rendering for each one

[bold edge]

It's 3 different mods I installed just for this screenshot

[novel sequoia]

OW LMAO

Helmet and Solos Cams too?

[bold edge]

Yep

[novel sequoia]

Jesus xD

[bold edge]

Only if all 3 present it overwrites internal camera

[frigid bramble]

you have more monitors than you do fps with all three of those installed and running at the same time

[novel sequoia]

yeah helmet and solosbody replace the internal camera

OpenBodyCams don't :3

Why OBC looks so GOOOOOD

Also @narrow oriole let use change the emmisive color too! ❤️ goat

[broken crescent]

OBC is best cam mod

[novel sequoia]

^

100%

10000%

[bold edge]

Wait, can I display OBC on all of these?

[novel sequoia]

try it put "," before each monitor entry

so like "14,13,8,9" and find out xD

[bold edge]

Yeah

[broken crescent]

Sorry no I meant the internal or external cams

I don't have a setting for integrating with that (atm)

[fossil minnow]

oh it is set to true but sales are still bugt

[broken crescent]

I see 20% off shovels, does it cycle through to the other one too?

[narrow oriole]

yeah, I'm thinking it would be nice to let your mod control the bodycam position instead of mine

one of the previous updates changed the object names for some of the monitors and broke my compat

[novel sequoia]

It might be an idea for future updates tbh

[broken crescent]

Yeah sorry lol that was still when I was messing with the models. I may add that eventually

Mixing mod integrations is special

[narrow oriole]

yeah, it's tricky without API for it

[novel sequoia]

Zeeks need to get you guys an API - plus would be nice to have steam workshop intergration too

[narrow oriole]

probably would be good to have an API that allows other mods to get the number of screens and their display materials to modify

I'm going to work on model replacement support, then I'll be able to focus on a refactor to make it work with multiple body cams

and then GI and darmuh's terminal can both duplicate the body cam prefab and cause the framerate to drop to 20 lol

[bold edge]

XD

[novel sequoia]

Did what I say work? xD

[bold edge]

Nope

[novel sequoia]

Sadge

xD

Obviousily wouldn't work but you know magic happens sometimes D:

[bold edge]

OBD does not replace External or Internal cams but the other 2 mods do

So you can just put ExternalCam in every GI monitor slot

And it'll duplicate cams

[novel sequoia]

Makes sense haha

[bold edge]

0 fps drops btw 😆

[inner furnace]

Hopefully one day all the monitors will be used

[novel sequoia]

Yeah it shouldn't if it did wouldn't be that much 😛 I wonder if you can change the multipler with GI for them instead of changing their resolution from the mods instead.

Because it's still "technically" the external cam 😛

[fossil minnow]

the monitor shows how much you pay in percentage, not how big the sale is. for example, the monitor says 80% sale, but the in game store says 20% sale.

[broken crescent]

Ahh I must have misread the logic and reversed it. Ok thanks I'll fix that

[fossil minnow]

love the mod btw!

[bold edge]

AYOOO

Touchscreen

[novel sequoia]

Touchscreen update? 👀

[bold edge]

yep

[novel sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-hockey-kid-yeah-yes-gif-16389528

[weary barn]

Hooray! My issue report went somewhere

[bold edge]

Suggestion: implement LetMeLookDown as a part of GI

As well as NameplateTweaks and possibly MonitorLabels but last one feels a bit like a cheat

[edgy tartan]

The latter is more for casuals

Let it be as a separate mod, as it is updated frequently

Yes and lookdown too

whoever needs it - put it

[bold edge]

Lockdown is a chunk of bugs because it is not maintained

Could be a great mod

[broken crescent]

I plan to actually

[bold edge]

Same for HideChat... 😭

[novel sequoia]

@broken crescent Actually yeah if you can Hide Player Name, Hide Chat, Jump Delay and Looking Down would be amazing to consolidate into the mod if they're not being upkept anymore.

❤️

[edgy tartan]

Like it's the wrong meaning

[lavish dagger]

with the jump delay feature
add the instant sprint option from an0n patches. i like an0n patches very much but the fact crouch wasnt toggled is a deal breaker.
an0n patches isnt being kept anymore so it be cool if u add it @broken crescent

[hoary burrow]

You can use ShyHud in place of HideChat

works most of the time

[bold edge]

Wait, why do you want to hide player name instead of reveal it?

[novel sequoia]

Masked 😉

and the confusion game is hilarious

[bold edge]

I use masked rework so they have their name plates 😄

[hoary burrow]

I much prefer MaskedOverhaul's feature of giving the masked fake name tags 😄

[bold edge]

^

[novel sequoia]

😛 Also wouldn't ShyHud conflict with other hud elements?

Like Elads?

or no?

Imma check out

thanks for the shout about it

[hoary burrow]

I use it together with Elads, hiding the other elements just doesn't work but hiding the chat still works.

[bold edge]

I mean, HideChat always worked perfectly

[novel sequoia]

Imma try it anyway but yeah the idea is to minimise mod count and duties. If it can be included into a single QoL mod that would be nice. Imo anyway 😛

[bold edge]

Also it has decompiled code

[novel sequoia]

But ShyHud has recently been updated, so I guess it would be stepping on toes a little with that.

There's no config for ShyHud?

This is one of the points I was gonna say. I'd rather user control/customisability over not having it 😛 I think this is a common process for most users too.

So I will stick do Hide Chat and Hide Names for now. No point having a mod that does 4 things when I only need the 1 interaction and potentially have arguments in console 😛

[edgy tartan]

Credits and other things are updated immediately

Some kind of out of sync

but if you buy something

[broken crescent]

There's a bug with credits and sales until the next update, if you're using the old style monitors

[bold edge]

• How many mods have you made?
• One (actually 2 but nevermind)
• How many mods did it replace?
• All of them © Shaosil

[edgy tartan]

I'm on the latest update

Maybe I changed something wrong in the config?

[broken crescent]

I haven't deployed it yet lol

https://github.com/Shaosil/LethalCompanyMods-GeneralImprovements/issues/90

Anybody have any input on this? Is performance worse in my latest?

[novel sequoia]

Nah it's just when older mods don't get upkept (although there's really not much reason to if the game itself doesn't change anything) but it's nice to have consolidation and that option of customisability. If other mod makers don't mind it anyway 😛

General Improvements is a QoL package of a mod, just makes sense that's all 😛

Collaboration is always healthy :3

[crude widget]

having an issue, monitor 3 is supposed to be credits, 7 is time and 8 is sales but they keep showing up as profit quota no matter what i switch around also the internal cam stays under monitor 7

[edgy tartan]

It will be fixed in the next update

If you launch the ship or die

The monitors are updated and everything is fine

It happens

[novel sequoia]

?

[edgy tartan]

?

[novel sequoia]

You tagged me

[edgy tartan]

Riley?

accidentally

[edgy tartan]

I understand

[novel sequoia]

It's all good haha

[edgy tartan]

I said it was an accident

[crude widget]

oh were u talking to me then

[edgy tartan]

No

to myself

[crude widget]

ah okay

[edgy tartan]

ty

[broken crescent]

Well he's right though lol I'll fix that in the next update, and launching and stuff slowly fixes it

It's also fixed in the better monitor style already

I just missed it in the old style ones

[crude widget]

ah okay thanks man

have you said what other monitor metrics you are going to add

[edgy tartan]

I think the crew’s pulse is needed to understand who is alive and who is not

But if there are more than 6 players, I have no idea how all the information will fit into the monitor

@broken crescent

[crude widget]

u could put 4 flatlines with their username per monitor and just have them be on multiple monitors

[edgy tartan]

what if there are 15 players?

What then?

Need to think

[broken crescent]

If/when I add that I'd probably just cycle through like the sales monitor

By the way has anyone confirmed that cycle works?

[crude widget]

i can check rn it just might take a sec to get 2 sales

[broken crescent]

No rush I'll probably find out later too ha just curious since I didn't get a chance to test it

Which is dangerous to do when deploying stuff but hey

[crude widget]

yeah it cycles

i got three on second quota lol

the percentages r inverted tho it says 90% on monitor but 10% in terminal

[broken crescent]

Yeahhh I misread the logic and put it backwards. That will also be fixed in the next update

[celest topaz]

use nicechat instead of hidechat

[novel sequoia]

Thank you so much! Gonna give this a whirl now! ❤️

[weary barn]

Does anyone else experience any sort of inventory lockup when scrolling and dropping things?
Talking about the config option that let's you speed up scrolling through the inventory

I had it at what the mod set it to and issues were high
I moved it to 2.0 and they lowered
I'm gonna set it to 3.0 (vanilla) and see if it ceases all together
I know the inventory is a very temperamental thing

It doesn't seem very consistent, I've had it happen once to me but some players more often than I, though I've been more mindful

[scarlet roost]

Door Power? new update?

[novel sequoia]

Indeed :3

[novel sequoia]

Thank you so much, it's perfect!

The timestamps!!! ❤️ ❤️

[scarlet roost]

btw you tried adding the Zoom button by Piggy on the monitor?

i kinda asked them if they can put Door Buttons under it

[edgy tartan]

Everyone has had this

And it often happens on vanilla

[scarlet roost]

that way i can use the BetterMonitors function of the GI

[edgy tartan]

It's better to set the value to 3

Or try the fix mod, which fixes this problem using the P key. https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DOkge/InventoryFixPlugin/

[weary barn]

I figured

[oblique sequoia]

is credits just Credits? or CurrentCredits or either way it will display it?

[weary barn]

Should say in config
I believe it's just Credits

[oblique sequoia]

mine didn't include the new values you can put so i'm kinda lost but thanks

[weary barn]

Did you launch game first?

[oblique sequoia]

i think this one replicates what happen when you do the teleport speedbug that's why the host is the only suffers on this one

[weary barn]

I suffer it the least

[oblique sequoia]

nope not yet

[weary barn]

I host 100% of the time
I've had it once
Everyone else is very often

[weary barn]

Launch game first then otherwise config won't gen

[oblique sequoia]

mine is vice versa

[scarlet roost]

people go straight to playing once they have the mods as far as i know

i recommend to restart the game after loading once tho

[oblique sequoia]

it happens to me when i spam drop too much partly because i play with randoms so to them i did not get the item even though i did.

[oblique sequoia]

aight

thanks again

[scarlet roost]

also why are you spam dropping?

as far as im aware, fast switching too fast and spam dropping too fast either makes item disappear or just plain get bugged or desync in general

had someone fast switched while charging a flashlight and he ended up charging a scrap and it blacked screened him

[sour rain]

to follow up, sales monitor works just fine, including cycling through several objects, outside of the sale values being reversed. just in case you wanted confirmation

[oblique sequoia]

yeah when were on weathered planet mostly titan because we loot and go back always late so were always on the run lmao. but yeah i just do it carefully now XD

[weary barn]

You wanna drop as slow as a snail when you're trying to get back out there?

Goober

[scarlet roost]

i didn't mean that way

i was saying that the fast switching when reduced to almost zero in speed sometimes breaks it

let's say if the default speed is 3. and someone changed it to 0.01

it sometimes break

[weary barn]

Oh sorry

I gotcha

[scarlet roost]

also spam dropping in general.. i barely get to do that in modded

[weary barn]

How does this work exactly?

[scarlet roost]

since most of the time the freaking braken kills me in the ship

[weary barn]

I was reading the mod trying to figure out what it actually does

Does it like undo the issue if it occurs?

[novel sequoia]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/boxofbiscuits97/ItemDropCycler/

[scarlet roost]

GI has that option

i disabled it because im used to sorting my stuff and always put the shovel on 1st slot

[novel sequoia]

That's why I suggest this 😛

I also disable GI's auto organiser etc

[scarlet roost]

and because i have lock master too i always carry a key to lock doors

[weary barn]

Ah yes

Cultured i see

[scarlet roost]

it saved me multiple times and locked a braken inside an apparatus room

made life easier knowing he is locked there

[weary barn]

Meltdown mod
Lock bracken in there
Rip bracken

[novel sequoia]

Also GI doesn't switch slots when dropping items @scarlet roost

[weary barn]

I'll try both those mods you guys suggested

[scarlet roost]

the next moon tho.. he just went outside and ran down at me while i was near the ship

[weary barn]

But still confused by the other

Sometimes he spawns in just MAD

Like he is FUMING

And it's like, I just got here???

[scarlet roost]

because of diversity. he ignored my friends in front of me and went straight at me

[novel sequoia]

If you look at bracken whilst he spawned I find it sets him aggro on spawn ngl 😛

[scarlet roost]

who was the furthest back

[novel sequoia]

But yeah ItemCycle is really useful if you miss hotbar+

[weary barn]

That could be it if he's in FOV

[scarlet roost]

i got his aggro when i was looking at the sky btw

[weary barn]

Lmfao

[novel sequoia]

ow that I don't know anything about hha. I just know if you catch him spawning is state just sets to aggro so fast 😛

[weary barn]

Oh I see
That other plugin basically just undoes the issue

I will try both still

[oblique sequoia]

might have aggro by someone and you're in the way i think

[scarlet roost]

nah. the diversity cfg was set to "chase who aggro's him"

[novel sequoia]

^ this too can be a thing, bracken don't discriminate between assets. You are property of the Company, bracken crack Company necks 😛

[scarlet roost]

there are two people in front of me

[weary barn]

What is this diversity mod you speak of

[novel sequoia]

Diversity bugged atm 😛

[weary barn]

I believe I heard of it

Nevermind

[novel sequoia]

Massive update coming for it though!

Really looking forward to it

[weary barn]

:hmmge:

[novel sequoia]

I am really curios of the new enemy they're bringing in with it :3

[oblique sequoia]

ohh the cool mod

[scarlet roost]

my friends is already scared when i put a blind dog inside the dungeon lol

[novel sequoia]

I miss my Diversity :< But Mrs kept moaning about sinkholes not making her sink, which why complain about - your life is safer :<

[scarlet roost]

the sink holes? from the escape run?

i died from those whenever i can't see it properly lol

i mostly die from the pipes being in the way

[novel sequoia]

No from Rain weather 😛 haha

The Braken chase I love :3

Actually escaping is such a GG moment too smashing a button to get through door and he coming for you

[scarlet roost]

he goes after you still while running right?

[oblique sequoia]

the best chase scene lmao

[scarlet roost]

because if not. we could just leisurely run the pipes and holes

and the end would be the speed part

i think i posted my clip on clips on how my ran was

i died at 99% at the door

oh yeah i posted it again yesterday on #game-clips

[proud anvil]

@broken crescent Do you think it'd be possible to use our own transparent .png for a reticle? something we can toss in our modpacks that would just override the GI one?

[scarlet roost]

reticle? like a crosshair?

[vivid crystal]

Is there any chance a config could be added for a configurable cooldown on the medical station? I like the idea of it, but I can already see the abuse it would receive with my friends who like grabbing the hives 😛

[proud anvil]

Yepp

[scarlet roost]

there is already a mod for that

i don't even enable GI's crosshair since i use the one i kept using before my group used GI

[scarlet roost]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/OnionMilk/crosshair/

this is what we use

tho i dont exactly know how to plug in your personal one on this one

it says you can

i just never tried it

[proud anvil]

Ya, i was using that but dropped it since its built into GI now

Just trying to de-bloat wherever possible

[scarlet roost]

what kind of crosshair are you going to add?

[proud anvil]

Something simple, open center, small and partially transparent.

[pale matrix]

Hey for open cams is there a way to have the camera AND the Radar got general improvments too

[scarlet roost]

that's what i mentioned before

a separate radar

[edgy tartan]

It would be interesting someday to see a mod that, when generating a complex, created used walkie-talkies, green lanterns with a small battery charge, several corpses from an old expedition, or a hint that there is a mimic somewhere here.

[clever pawn]

That's out of GI's scope, IMO.

Also, they're called masked.

[edgy tartan]

I'm going crazy
I need this developer of that fix
Why do I have to press P every time - if my selection and interaction with the E key freezes
I pick up an item - I drop it - I can’t pick up anything else

[spark light]

eh, interchangeable name

[weary barn]

So..does that mod not work then?

[edgy tartan]

Which one?

General Imp?

It works

But sometimes a problem occurs - which I described above

And most players even encounter it on the vanilla version without mods

[weary barn]

Talking about this

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DOkge/InventoryFixPlugin/

[edgy tartan]

It works

But it forces the problem to manually disable and enable

I would like it to automatically detect the error and turn itself on when necessary

[weary barn]

Ooooooo

Okay I follow you now

Yeah that would make sense for it to catch the exception

[edgy tartan]

I need this developer

He's a genius for finding this problem.

And made a fix for her

[weary barn]

So let me ask this

When the error occurs, you click P, then is it back to normal?

[edgy tartan]

Yes

If suddenly the slots or the E key do not work

Press P and everything is fixed

[weary barn]

Ah okay

[edgy tartan]

How to switch the problem to OFF

If you change the value back, the problem remains

We need a developer who would redo his code and make it automatic

[weary barn]

I gotcha
Perhaps talk to advanced company dev

[edgy tartan]

The error itself rarely appears

[weary barn]

But they don't take requests

[edgy tartan]

But in most assemblies it is constantly

[weary barn]

So idk

[edgy tartan]

I'm trying to get people involved in this.

[weary barn]

Good idea

[edgy tartan]

I do not know such

I'm just a pathetic tester - who pisses off any developers with a mod from my build

So that it just works stably

😂

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/paradox75831004/ParadoxClientPack/wiki/866-installing-a-modpack-using-the-profile-code-in-the-application/

[weary barn]

I was talking about #1186884307332108339

Does great work but can come off abrasive to some who may be more sensitive

[edgy tartan]

I don't like Advanced Company

I like to customize mods separately

And not when they are in one pile

And every day they make patches 4-5 times

This mod is good for beginners who don’t want to understand mods - press one button and play in a simple way

[weary barn]

To each their own my friend

[edgy tartan]

That's it

[weary barn]

Either way I follow

[edgy tartan]

To each his own

[quartz quartz]

@broken crescent i had a bug just now where my hotbar got stuck. i had 2 pro flashlights in slot 1 and 2. i threw the flashlight that was in slot 2 and the hotbar got stuck, i couldn't scroll or interact with anything

not sure what caused this but i don't have other mod that changes inventory except possessed masks

wait i'll keep testing. maybe something is conflicting

no idea wtf is happening 💀

ok got it

[edgy tartan]

Oh

I know

[quartz quartz]

i think it's mirage

[edgy tartan]

Check @quartz quartz

[quartz quartz]

how to use that mod exactly?

[edgy tartan]

It's all written there

[quartz quartz]

what does button p do

[edgy tartan]

Enables and disables the error

which you had

We are looking for a developer who can fix this

But for now there is only such a solution

[quartz quartz]

so if my inventory gets stuck i press p?

[edgy tartan]

Yes

And it will change the error value to OFF

if you press back it will turn on the error

I do not understand anything

but it works

[quartz quartz]

ok but mirage was doing this if anyone's wondering. i had mirage's dependencies enabled but mirage itself disabled. so idk if this issue would persist if it was enabled.

[quartz quartz]

alright ty

[quartz quartz]

no it does not persist if mirage is enabled 💀

sorry for the confusion

[edgy tartan]

Then I have no idea

If there is a large collection of mods, it is difficult to find the error

Every time I add something to myself

I check with testers of 10 people

To optimize everything and write error reports in advance

[quartz quartz]

no no it's alright. the issue DOES NOT persist when mirage is enabled with its dependencies

[edgy tartan]

Thus, my assembly of 157 mods works stably

Except for that fix

[edgy tartan]

Ah, I understand

[quartz quartz]

the issue was when mirage's dependencies were enabled but mirage itself was disabled

[edgy tartan]

I do not understand anything

But very interesting

[quartz quartz]

now everything is alright

[quartz quartz]

just be careful if you download mirage 💀 make sure you either enable everything (the mod itself and its dependencies) or disable everything. don't leave half enabled and half disabled by mistake

[edgy tartan]

It uses too many libraries

Let them optimize

Or change in the config

[quartz quartz]

yeah with the latest update. it wasn't like that before. that's why i had its dependencies enabled but the mod disabled. because i had the mod disabled prior to updating. when i updated, the dependencies were downloaded and enabled and i didn't know

[hoary burrow]

Similar thing may have been mentioned before, but the DoorPower value seems completely broken. Without UseBetterMonitors it just shows the Profit Quota, with UseBetterMonitors it's just a white screen (tested with only GI, LCBetterSaves and LethalConfig installed)

[weary barn]

Weird

I never experienced said issue

[bold edge]

Eh, Joined random lobby

[weary barn]

On latest version

[bold edge]

one screen is white

[weary barn]

I will check mine in a few hours

[scarlet roost]

any camera mod? like bodycam mods

[hoary burrow]

OBC works fine for me on my other profile

[scarlet roost]

i dont have that issue either

[novel sequoia]

They're using a cam mod different to you I think, that's what caused it for me 😛

[scarlet roost]

most likely

one reason why people have the same exact mod and profile play together

only cliend side mods work in randoms

[hoary burrow]

Ok so oddly enough, on my heavily modded profile it works at first but then breaks at some point after landing and entering any interior.

But closing the doors fixes it again for a time

[sudden ice]

i do have that issue too

[broken crescent]

Yeah actually this is on my todo list already lol, eventually I'll support loading any png for it

[mighty lily]

i wish i had 2 ppl to test shit with, much less 10 ppl

[edgy tartan]

Have good connections

I advertised my mod pack

And lured people

Now I have a base - which I work with from time to time

And I get error reports

[mighty lily]

last time i went to test my modpack it had a game breaking bug that softlocked players on a black screen

[edgy tartan]

sad to hear this...

[mighty lily]

if i went to test with some random and that happened i'd never hear from him again

[drifting quail]

Any chance this mod can make all enemies can spawn on all moons?

[novel sequoia]

AC/LethalQuanities/LethalSettings or what ever

this is QoL mod

[regal elk]

Pretty sure AC doesn't have the function to spawn all enemies in all moons

👀

[novel sequoia]

@broken crescent - When using LethalSlots, Credits are not updated from it's use.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/PartyRockers/LethalSlots/

I don't know if same applies to other objects that use credits.

[novel sequoia]

110% you can.

[regal elk]

Oh I see what you mean now

[regal elk]

yep

[novel sequoia]

Don't doubt the AC lover :3

[regal elk]

i misremembered

[novel sequoia]

Hehehhee

[regal elk]

I am too but I've been busy 😭

[novel sequoia]

Shy guy 100 on everything >:D

Nah I set him to 30, people will cry otherwise 😛

@regal elk I wonder if he spawns at COmpany xD

[regal elk]

He's helping Jeb 😳

[novel sequoia]

Sorry fixed number for company... 100*

xD

[grave heron]

I kinda wish ac was multiple different modules

[broken crescent]

Their code is using custom RPCs that update the credits. I don't really have a way to hook into events of every mod that modifies credits.

The best thing I could do is just change the credits update to refresh constantly I suppose (or like a few times a second, I don't love frame by frame checks)

[grave heron]

I like the configurability ac adds

not really anything else

so I cant download it

[novel sequoia]

nah it's okay no stress don't worry about it such a small thing, plus it makes it easier for the gamble addicts to hide their are gambling 😄

[broken crescent]

well to be honest I might do that anyway, I noticed I missed a few places where it should be called, and it would probably give a better result

[regal elk]

Hello, does anyone have an idea on why this happens (the white monitors)?

I don't have any mods that adds cameras

[novel sequoia]

I replicated the issue now on my end, trying to retrace steps that I did to cause it

EZ

Figured it out

[regal elk]

?

[novel sequoia]

Was trying to replicate it yesterday but found nothing to cause it.

[regal elk]

I don't have those, but I do have MoreSuits

🤔

Also for some reason, this issue is fixed by restarting the game after making the save and then hosting the save again

[novel sequoia]

o.o

[regal elk]

It just, for some reason, happens when you make a new save and then host it

at least that's how I am able to replicate it with my modpack

[drifting quail]

Able to spawn all monsters on all moons sounds pretty qol to me

Ill try quantities but might be more than needed, i just need a false/true on spawn all monsters on all moons, similar to how brutal company plus did

[novel sequoia]

It's preference, not QoL ._.

Quanties is a HEFTY mod for changing stuff. But you can change anything and everything with it.

[frigid bramble]

but then you get into "what if i dont want a specific monster to spawn on every moon" and then you need to add an individual setting for every monster and it's much better to just make that into its own thing. which, it is

[broken crescent]

For now I think I have to agree with not adding that as a QoL. Monster spawning is its own big category of complex game mechanics, and it wouldn't do it justice to just say "they all spawn everywhere" because they have percentages per moon, among other things.

[frigid bramble]

yeah, it changes the mechanics of the game which is a bit out of the realm of what this mod is trying to do

[novel sequoia]

There's so many things with the enemies, especially the curve settings >.<

[proud anvil]

I noticed the white monitors by changing things in lethalconfig but not restarting my game. Reboot resolved for me

[novel sequoia]

Yeah it's a really strange one how it's interacting with stuff. Mysterious 😮

[proud anvil]

Is it possible to somehow eliminate the green haze on the external monitor?

[novel sequoia]

Wouldn't it affect OpenBodyCams too if that case? Unless it's done different? You can change emissive color there now

[solemn rain]

Possible bug? ShipMonitor4 is set to Credits and ShipMonitor7 is set to Sales

[crude widget]

it’ll be fixed next update

[solemn rain]

Ah, I see. Sorry for repeating it

[crude widget]

no worries i only know bc i also reported it after someone else did lol

[novel sequoia]

@broken crescent Ngl that white panel thing is a bizare annonamoly o.,o

Seems like they get created on first launch (after boot up) then when you exit match then remake lobby and go back in, it does an update instead of creating the monitors again?

Might colerate to the bug that people having when not using BetterMontiors=true as well? Cause when it's updated it does it twice.

[broken crescent]

I'm actually looking into that now, I think it happens when there are duplicate better monitors

Probably something to do with the render texture

[novel sequoia]

^^ awesome stuff! Good luck ❤️

[hoary burrow]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/CatsArmy/CorporateRestructureWeather/

yessss

[novel sequoia]

I did see it 😛

[broken crescent]

OH. Found the problem

It's nothing complicated lol

[slate lynx]

🙏🏻

[broken crescent]

It's because in some cases, I check whether we should update screens if the value is different, so in the case of door power, the first screen gets created, and it remembers the value.

Then the 2nd screen gets created and tries to render but it's like "naw dog we already updated with that value" and skips it

I'm not sure why that would matter with certain other mods though - that may be a separate issue

[novel sequoia]

Computers gotta love them, always doing the things we don't want them doing 😉 haha

in class though they'd tell you garbage in garbage out ._. like you calling me garbage?? :<

https://tenor.com/view/trash-garbage-dumpster-gif-22255810

[broken crescent]

Us humans are pretty good at producing garbage

[novel sequoia]

Along as the garbage is tidy! :3

[inner furnace]

HAHA I put Herobrine at 100

And max entities 500

[novel sequoia]

Jesus lord o.o

https://tenor.com/view/exorcism-father-mulvehill-evil-z-is-for-zombies-get-out-evil-spirit-gif-22407195

[inner furnace]

And every moon Eclipse

And 983700 quota for a single moon

And leaser gun

[inner furnace]

And the ghost girl at 100

And the shadow walker at 100
(Non-existent) rn https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1199784210475528353

[frigid bramble]

@broken crescent i believe this patch is causing fog to render incorrectly in LCVR

[narrow oriole]

the fog in the player camera?

I highly doubt that has anything to do with it

side note @broken crescent , TerminalPatch.Instance.terminalUIScreen.enabled should be isActiveAndEnabled instead, just enabled caused the map renderer to always stay on in OpenBodyCams

[broken crescent]

Gotcha, I'll update that now

[narrow oriole]

can check if it's working by inspecting StartOfRound.instance.mapScreen.cam.enabled in UnityExplorer

[broken crescent]

TIL that was a thing

[narrow oriole]

UnityExplorer? It's incredibly helpful

[broken crescent]

My main tool thus far has been dnSpy, mixed with AssetRipper when needed to view the scene hierarchy and property assignments. I'll have to check that out

[narrow oriole]

ah, I see

it's very helpful for figuring out the hierarchy as well as debugging (since I don't yet have actual debuggers set up)

can also use it to modify values at runtime, so you can experiment with solutions

[frigid bramble]

currently LCVR has a bug where fog rendering is broken whenever the radar is active

[frigid bramble]

if this is the case then changing that will probably fix it

[narrow oriole]

as in you can see abnormally far on maps like dine or rend?

that is very bizarre if so, that fog is supposed to be rendered in a plane attached to the player's camera

[frigid bramble]

fog does not render at all in the left eye while the radar is active, which is usually only while you're on the ship

[narrow oriole]

huh, can't think of a reason why rendering the map would do that, but sounds like a bug in LCVR really

the fog shader isn't only active outside, so it should be made to work in the ship

it's a very negligible difference when you're inside though

[frigid bramble]

it breaks everything that uses volumetrics including inside lights

[narrow oriole]

inside the ship, sorry

but yeah

[frigid bramble]

oh, i see

[narrow oriole]

although if you mean that volumetrics like the valve leaks are completely invisible, that must be a different shader

[frigid bramble]

i don't know if i've seen a valve leak while the bug was happening, but i know for sure that it does affect the lights

[narrow oriole]

interesting

do you notice any other visual differences than the volumetrics?

lack of edge detection?

[frigid bramble]

what does that mean

[narrow oriole]

the cartoony lines on color boundaries

[frigid bramble]

can you show an example?

[narrow oriole]

the black lines here

along the terminal edge and the pipe

[frigid bramble]

ahhh, i see

i don't think so? but i can hop in and check real quick

doesn't seem different to me

pretty much just fog and lights

things like the splotchy shading that you can see on the wall are always a bit different but i think that's just a product of the game not being made to render in VR

[narrow oriole]

hmm, depending on what you're seeing there may be a solution to make that less noticeable

also, for reference, here's the difference I see in the ship when removing that shader plane:

the volumetrics don't totally go away, but they are way less visible

[frigid bramble]

i think that may be what's happening

volumetrics don't completely go away but they are significantly less visible in the left eye

[narrow oriole]

right that makes sense then

that plane has issues even in vanilla

when you can see through the fog on rend, dine or titan while spectating, that's because the camera clips past the plane

at least pretty sure that's the cause

but I have no idea why the radar map rendering would cause that to disappear, it doesn't interact with that at all

[frigid bramble]

i don't know if you plan to investigate this further, but if you need someone to test then you can hit me up any time

[narrow oriole]

I don't have a VR headset so I don't know if I could

[frigid bramble]

yeah that'd probably make things tough lol

thanks for taking a look anyway though

[narrow oriole]

after a cursory glance I don't see anything related to that shader plane, so it might be worth mentioning to the LCVR devs if you know how to contact them

what I like to do to test that it's not clipping the wrong way is set the material of that plane to a solid color so that if any part isn't covering the camera it's obvious

the size, position and rotation on the main camera in the game is pretty arbitrary from what I could tell

if they adjust that to line up with the second camera it might become more consistent

[frigid bramble]

i have mentioned it but all i got was pretty much "i'll let him know" and nothing further. so either he forgot or just hasn't had the time

[narrow oriole]

huh gotcha

[frigid bramble]

now that you mention it, i guess i'll go make an issue on the github now

[narrow oriole]

@broken crescent trying to see if I can set up a dev env for GI to make a PR, are there instructions I should use to set up netcode-patch that the project expects to find?

[broken crescent]

Are you talking about how I'm patching netcode in the project?

I have it as a post build event (if the configuration is not debug), using an MSBuild command. You can see how I'm doing it in GeneralImprovements.csproj, but it basically boils down to calling

<Exec Command="netcode-patch &quot;$(TargetPath)&quot; @(ReferencePathWithRefAssemblies->'&quot;%(Identity)&quot;', ' ')" />

And making sure the <NetcodePatcherNoOverwrite>true</NetcodePatcherNoOverwrite> property is set

Well, it has to be installed too, one sec

[narrow oriole]

is the netcode-patch executable included in the repo?

I'm getting error code 9009

[narrow oriole]

oops you typed this as I started typing lol

[broken crescent]

I'm trying to find the github repo, I seem to have lost track of it 😄

[narrow oriole]

is it Evaisa's? or something else?

the executable name when I downloaded UnityNetcodePatcher didn't match what the project was set up to run, but maybe I'm missing something about how you set it up

[broken crescent]

dotnet tool install -g Evaisa.NetcodePatcher.Cli

Yeah there we go

[narrow oriole]

ah, I see

[broken crescent]

Then that exec command will run

I misremembered, I couldn't get the MSBuild option to work so I had to install the CLI

[narrow oriole]

ayy

it all works now except it doesn't like trying to copy the plugin to your game install lol

also, I may be stupid, but where do you configure that build event in VS?

I tried looking through the project properties and couldn't see it

[broken crescent]

Haha nice, I figured that might trip people up but it's a pure convenience thing for me so I was too lazy to make it more configurable

You just open the csproj file directly

VS should support double clicking it

or clicking "Edit project file"

[narrow oriole]

oh so there's no UI to edit that particular property?

(I assume you mean edit text)

[broken crescent]

Sadly no, they used to have it in the properties but no longer

[narrow oriole]

gotcha

mine is just set up with the post-build commands, but also I need to migrate to SDK projects still so it's quite outdated

wait, where is TwoRadarCamsHelper.Initialize() invoked from? I don't see any references

unless VS is trolling me of course

[broken crescent]

hahaha did I forget that.. one sec

Yup. Fixed

Sneak peek of 4 new display options for the ol' monitor screen. Finally filling it out. Hopefully getting it deployed soon

[scarlet roost]

We getting internal, external and Bodycam?

[broken crescent]

Dangit I just found another white screen bug with my monitors, maybe it won't be deployed this instant then

Fixed

[bold edge]

That was quite... Fast

[broken crescent]

When I have time to develop and don't run into oddities, I go fairly quick lol

[narrow oriole]

@broken crescent made my PR :-)

still haven't fixed the BetterMonitors incompatibility, but I'm not sure exactly where to start with that

[broken crescent]

Awesome I'll take a look when I can, thanks!

[narrow oriole]

also, if you commit and push your current changes, I can rebase on top if you prefer that over a merge commit

just did that in case you get a merge conflict from the call to TwoRadarMapsHelper.Initialize()

[broken crescent]

I'll check that out soon 🙂

Also here's today's changelog for anyone wanting to know

[narrow oriole]

oh, what was the performance uplift with OpenBodyCams?

[broken crescent]

I changed .enabled to .ActiveAndEnabled like you mentioned earlier, I assume that would affect performance a bit?

[narrow oriole]

oh, yeah, but that would affect all performance

[broken crescent]

Ah fair enough, misleading change notes

[narrow oriole]

no worries

[broken crescent]

What does adding [BepInDependency(TwoRadarCamsHelper.GUID, BepInDependency.DependencyFlags.SoftDependency)] gain me?

[narrow oriole]

it means that your mod loads after mine, otherwise TwoRadarMapsHelper.Initialize() doesn't see it loaded

[broken crescent]

Ah right the PluginInfos wouldn't have it then, ok

[narrow oriole]

could also initialize at some other point, like Terminal.Start(), but

technically you don't really even need the dependency if you just check for Terminal.GetComponent<ManualCameraRenderer>() though

up to you

[broken crescent]

All good - I approved the PR and it will be in the next update

[narrow oriole]

👍

[bold edge]

Is this white screen bug when you reload the lobby without restarting the game?

[broken crescent]

I did fix that one (at least the ones I found), along with a couple others related to sales and credits

[narrow oriole]

ah, forgot to link this bug to the commit, but you can close this now: https://github.com/Shaosil/LethalCompanyMods-GeneralImprovements/issues/95

[hoary burrow]

The pursuit of the perfect setup continues...