sfDesat's Moons and Mods

[halcyon ermine]

Couple things to note

• The load times from switching between planets has roughly doubled. The time the sky is black in the video is roughly the loading time.
• The file size is about 73 Mb
• It does not support modded moons (maybe later)
• This is not lore accurate. The problem with making it lore accurate is that there just is enough known about the lore of Lethal Company.

[restive minnow]

a small price to pay for beauty

[balmy onyx]

ib4 this was something zeekers was working on for vanilla, update v50

[patent crow]

then he suddenly drops v50 with all of the mod's functions and it would be a massive boom

[balmy onyx]

off topic, but apparently the UK is being added to lethal company https://fxtwitter.com/ZeekerssRBLX/status/1764914646501531696

[visual saddle]

Imagine he adds mod support for modded moons

[balmy onyx]

i wanna scratch your windows with it

I do not think he will add modding support. That's a huge amount of work, if it wasn't planned at the start of development.

Which he 1000% was not planning since this was just a little game project of his that blew up lol

[halcyon ermine]

I added support for random sun position

[halcyon ermine]

i would hope not lol

[balmy onyx]

when loading, replace the glass with ryan reynolds face

[restive minnow]

would it be possible to hide the transition into the different moons with maybe the windows closing or something to that effect?

[lapis turret]

Making the Star Wars hyperspeed animation would be good

[halcyon ermine]

I didn't make the ship windows, but i think veri wanted to add something like that https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1203500753939988532

[halcyon ermine]

I will probably add that later

[balmy onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdBZY2fkU-0 yoo lethal company update 50 trailer dropped :kek:

zeekers been to wooork

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/Celestial_Tint/

[quick sky]

Epic

[jaunty lintel]

github link
no source

cry

love to see it tho

[restive minnow]

I assume for proper compatibility with ship windows I'll need to turn off the ship window's space hdri in its config?

[quick sky]

Also a moon forgot which orbitd a white dwarf star are you gonna make it a white dwarf for that moon or is it already a white dwarf (vanilla moon btw)

[halcyon ermine]

i'll add source in a min

[halcyon ermine]

I added a preconfigured config that will hopefully do this for you

[quick sky]

Also ive seen red stars in thr game but idk if they're on the lore

[halcyon ermine]

That's why i said im not making them completely lore accurate. I want to do this later

[quick sky]

Ahhh

The lore is confusing

[restive minnow]

ah right thanks

[stone pumice]

May I ask where did you get this from? Because I made extensive lore reading about the planets of Lethal and this text contains informations that I've seen nowhere in-game or in the game files

[halcyon ermine]

its on the lethal company wiki. I think its a recent addition, because i never saw it before

[halcyon ermine]

https://lethal-company.fandom.com/wiki/Lore#Setting

[stone pumice]

Thank you very much

Because from what i've understood, seen and read, Lethal is happening in two star systems
One star system is a red dwarf, planets orbiting around are Experimentation, Assurance, Offense, Vow & March
The other system is a white dwarf, planets orbiting around are Rend, Dine (And possibly Titan, titan could be a rogue planet)

[quaint holly]

Moons, not planets. 🤓

[stone pumice]

That's the same

[fleet pilot]

What happens if you go to a modded moon with Celestial Tint? Nothing outside the windows? I assume no game breaking issues

[stone pumice]

The only real "moon" would be Experimentation since in lore, it's the only moon said to be orbiting around a gas giant named "Big Grin"

[halcyon ermine]

Right now it reverts to the original exterior.

[fleet pilot]

Awesome to hear, I'll add it for next time my group plays. I'm sure it'll be quite a treat since they really liked the space station

[quaint holly]

Does ShipWindows or SpaceShipDoor have to be dependencies? I get that you won't see much without them, but still.

[halcyon ermine]

you can disable them or even uninstall them if you want. Its not game-breaking

[fleet pilot]

the windows look amazing

and adding windows as upgrades just seems like a fun idea

[balmy onyx]

fandom 🤮

https://lethal.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page 😎

[halcyon ermine]

what happened?

[balmy onyx]

fandom is disgusting and does not care about their fandoms at all. They're a for-profit company

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfuA_UAz3I Going to leave this here
and leave this here https://github.com/KevinPayravi/indie-wiki-buddy

[lapis turret]

What moons dose it do this for

[halcyon ermine]

all vanilla moons. but i grouped them:

• Assurance, Experimentation and Offense = Wasteland
• Vow and March = Grown
• Dine, Titan and Rend = Frozen
• Gordion = Company

every group has a different look

[lapis turret]

What are the colors for each group

[halcyon ermine]

https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/tree/main/Screenshots click on the .jpg on the left

[lapis turret]

Why is spaceship door a dependency

[halcyon ermine]

you can uninstall all the dependencies. I probably should have put that in the description

I added them as dependencies so the config files are correctly setup

btw it should download on r2modman now

[balmy onyx]

Hope this helps someone 🙏🏻

[restive minnow]

just an idea, if a planet that you have routed has an eclipse happening it will show that whilst being in orbit too? with the sun being blocked or something similar

[halcyon ermine]

that is a very good idea

[fleet pilot]

Along that same vein, what about showing weather on the planet down below? Flashes of lightning for stormy ect

[halcyon ermine]

I was hoping i could add lightning to the Company planet, but i don't know how at the moment.

[restive minnow]

at the moment I'm most looking forward to custom moons support, very sad seeing a pitch black exterior when I'm on orion and others 😔

[halcyon ermine]

this is the current list with modded moons as a priority

[stone pumice]

That's the wiki i've read and made most of my research from, yup can confirm

[restive minnow]

lovely, looking forward to it

[stone pumice]

Meteorshower

[quaint holly]

It's not like the weather happens all across the surface at the same time. Not to mention you being so far away that it would likely be unnoticeable.

[halcyon ermine]

yeah but maybe i will make gordion smaller and add subtle flashes on the surface

[quaint holly]

Guess what I'm trying to say is that a feature like that doesn't seem worth investing time in. Even though it could look cool.

[halcyon ermine]

Modded moons should work. Although an important note is that most custom moons will look like in the provided video. So a note to all modded moon makers: Choose what planetprefab you want in the selectableLevel!! moon1 = Wasteland, moon2 = Grown, moon3 = Frozen. Click here for a preview

[patent crow]

are you going to add more planet types too?

like based on watery and such

[halcyon ermine]

I will, because three is not really enough for modded moons

[patent crow]

oh nice

[fast quiver]

🔥

[halcyon ermine]

I pushed the update to thunderstore, It will take a moment to update.

I made a quick wiki page for custom moon developers https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/wiki/[For-Modders]-How-to-add-support-to-your-moon

[rocky sundial]

will it be possible for moon devs to make custom moons?

[halcyon ermine]

I don't have a good way to let devs make it themselves, but you can always request a preset and I can send you the tools to fiddle with it yourself

I will try to add support for this later on

[rocky sundial]

what does it mean by "you can uninstall or disable spaceshipdoor and shipwindows"?

[quaint holly]

Exactly that.

[halcyon ermine]

They are not required. I just have them as dependencies to configure the config file

[rocky sundial]

ah, okay!

[gaunt ingot]

I originally had in mind to make it seem like the ship actually moved away from the moon, a small transition with the stars, and then the new moon would approach, but I'm not sure how feasible that is by manipulating the sky profile alone

[halcyon ermine]

I think that is actually very doable.

[gaunt ingot]

Oo

[rocky sundial]

ooooooh

[trim stream]

I'm being cooked

[halcyon ermine]

damn you're orbiting the sun. what is your modlist

[trim stream]

ive got alot hold on

[fleet pilot]

What's with the right side of your ship? Is that an extra door?

[trim stream]

extra door?

[fleet pilot]

Or the window looking huge?

[trim stream]

shipwindows

[slate blade]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

[halcyon ermine]

its spacesunshine

I think it adds another sun causing the light to multiply

[trim stream]

oh damn, forgot to delete that 😭

thanks

[halcyon ermine]

I'll add it in the description

[trim stream]

prob a good idea

[restive minnow]

I'm using spacesunshine and it's fine for me

my config for it if it helps idk

[copper linden]

Might be the old sun setting. The new one uses something akin to vanilla lighting iirc

[restive minnow]

hmm even though I have spacesunshine enabled the ladder and floodlights are not there, so it might be that mine isn't working hence there isn't a lighting problem for me

[copper linden]

I'll reach out for a light toggle either way. We've talked before about some old issues with the mod and our mods for another game. If you figure out the conflict disabling it for you I'll pass it along as well

[cerulean jewel]

I might be stupid

Yes

Ok I was stupid

Has anyone spotted this thing

In the distance

behind the ship

also this one to the right of the ship

[copper linden]

Do you have LE?

[cerulean jewel]

Yes sir

wait

[copper linden]

The 2nd one should be some plane LE adds for whatever reason. I think ShipWindows tries to move it out there so it's less noticable

[cerulean jewel]

I have LECORE

[copper linden]

The other image I'm not sure on, may also be related to LE/LECore hijinks

[gaunt ingot]

I move the terrain LE adds down to -5000 Y

So whatever that is out there, it's different

[copper linden]

I think you're just being haunted by evil ghost space platforms then, only other explanation

[fleet pilot]

What should the configs be for shipwindow with CelestialTint? I'm not seeing a planet

[copper linden]

Change the SpaceOutside setting to 0 and see if that works

[halcyon ermine]

Set it to Let Other Mods Handle the sky

[halcyon ermine]

I haven't placed anything in the sky

[fleet pilot]

HideSpaceProps true or false?

[fleet pilot]

it was on 1 by default. your configs didn't carry over it seems for some reason

[halcyon ermine]

hmm ok

This is the config:
`## Settings file was created by plugin Ship Window v1.3.6

Plugin GUID: veri.lc.shipwindow

[General]

Enable the window shutter to hide level transitions? (default = true)

Setting type: Boolean

Default value: true

EnableWindowShutter = true

Should the planet and moon outside the ship be hidden? (default = true)

Setting type: Boolean

Default value: true

HideSpaceProps = false

Set this value to control how the outside space looks. (0 = Let other mods handle, 1 = Space HDRI Volume (default), 2 = Black sky with stars)

Setting type: Int32

Default value: 1

SpaceOutside = 0

Enable the window to the right of the switch, behind the terminal.

Setting type: Boolean

Default value: true

EnableWindow1 = true

Enable the window to the left of the switch, across from the first window.

Setting type: Boolean

Default value: false

EnableWindow2 = true

Enable the large glass floor.

Setting type: Boolean

Default value: false

EnableWindow3 = false

Disable the flood lights added under the ship if you have the floor window enabled.

Setting type: Boolean

Default value: false

DisableUnderLights = true

Don't move the poster that blocks the second window if enabled.

Setting type: Boolean

Default value: false

DontMovePosters = false

Enable slow rotation of the space skybox for visual effect.

Setting type: Boolean

Default value: true

RotateSpaceSkybox = false

Sets the skybox resolution (0 = 2K, 1 = 4K) 4K textures may cause performance issues.

Setting type: Int32

Default value: 0

SkyboxResolution = 0`

[cerulean jewel]

I didnt see the moon surface

until i set hide props to false

and then i saw it

[copper linden]

You might be able to get it to transfer using DefaultConfigs

[gaunt ingot]

Side note I'm changing that space props setting to not hide by default in the next update

Won't affect current configs but new ones at least won't have to worry

[fleet pilot]

Thanks 😄 fixed it

[lapis turret]

Dose it support modded moons

[halcyon ermine]

It does.

This is how devs can change things https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/wiki/[For-Modders]-How-to-add-support-to-your-moon

[lapis turret]

Can you updated the read me because it still says it can’t

[halcyon ermine]

I will

[quaint holly]

Wish door auto closed on changing orbit

[copper linden]

Some other mod conflicts with SpaceSunShine, not sure which one. HOWEVER, as long as you don't use the old sun setting the mod basically does nothing to conflict with this one. You can leave it on for ladder and flood lights (assuming you figure out what is disabling it for you). I did bring up a toggle for the lights though as it may still conflict with any future space developments.

Update: the interior of the ship becomes too bright, so might still be worth disabling until the next update

[copper linden]

It's compatible as long as you don't use the old sun config setting - in case you want to use the ladder and flood lights still.

Update: the interior of the ship becomes too bright, so it may still be worth disabling it until the next update

[quaint holly]

@halcyon ermine doing a clean install will all dependencies ends up with space from ShipWindow and that's is. As if Celestial Tint is not even installed.

You don't need SpaceSunShine with Celestial Tint.

[copper linden]

Correct, I'm bringing it up since there are non-light-related features people still may want from that mod

[quaint holly]

Yeah, I see now. The ladder and the floodlight.

[copper linden]

For reference if you're going to add SpaceSunShine to the description either way, the mod is currently compatible assuming players do not use the old sun config setting. In practice, the only thing that is immediately noticeable with correct settings is that shadows on craters of the moon are slightly less defined.

Okay disregard that. It seems I was so worried about the outside that I forgot about the interior of the ship. The light multiplies inside and makes everything look off, so probably fair to call it an incompatibility. I've updated Cats and they're going to put out an update in the future after they're less preoccupied.

[lapis turret]

Can you remove spaceship door as a dependency because I don’t want it to open in space and when I update or download my modpack it will auto download it because it’s a dependency

[halcyon ermine]

@copper linden Ok so what you are saying is that I should put a note in the description that says: Some of SpaceSunShine's features are not compatible. Please disable Old Sun Config. Do you mean that?

[halcyon ermine]

I will remove the spaceshipdoor. And add it as a recommendation in the description

[copper linden]

I would just say it's a minor incompatibility (until they push their next update) because I don't expect most users to be fine with the increased ship interior lighting that occurs with both config options.

[halcyon ermine]

can you link their thread

[copper linden]

Like mod thread on discord? Because they're not very active in this server

I'll grab you their mod page though

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/CatsArmy/SpaceSunShine/

[halcyon ermine]

I pushed a small update that removes spaceshipdoor as a dependency and adds a note to the description. I also added a mod that should install the correct config for SpaceWindows. https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/Celestial_Tint/

[copper linden]

I'll test configs when it's up on TS. Hopefully there's no weird difference between ROUNDS and LC that breaks the config mod

[copper linden]

It worked. Will not doubt Root like that again.

[halcyon ermine]

great. thank you for testing it

[lapis turret]

Why is space door recommended though

[copper linden]

Lets you go outside and see the whole thing

[restive minnow]

yep, it's beautiful

[halcyon ermine]

This is the current list. If you think of something to add please let me know

[gaunt ingot]

I did have a super quick look regarding the boosters and other attachments that are normally hidden in space

They are controlled by the actual animation and not by code, so you'd either need to spawn copies without the animation or edit the animation itself

[halcyon ermine]

well i currently use empty animations. if you want to make the animations, it might be possible to change them during runtime

although i dont know if that is possible. I have added animation support, but i dont know if that works outside the editor

[gaunt ingot]

Not sure how possible changing animation curves at runtime is

[lapis turret]

Add the Star Wars hyper speed animation when going to a new moon

[gaunt ingot]

I remember doing a little research, and the consensus I found was essentially 'good luck'

[halcyon ermine]

lol

[gaunt ingot]

I can experiment with it for ship windows if you want, since you wouldn't really see them without the floor window anyway

[halcyon ermine]

What might be possible is that you change the Controller in the Animator. This is the link to the source code that I use to make the graphics https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/blob/main/Sourcecode/OrbitController.cs

[fair dagger]

Celestial-Tint doesn't work for me:

[NightSkyPlugin] Nightsky loaded
[NightSkyPlugin] AssetBundle loaded successfully from path: ..
...
[NightSkyPlugin] Scene loaded: SampleSceneRelay, Level ID: 3
[NightSkyPlugin] SampleSceneRelay loaded
[NightSkyPlugin] Unknown moon name: atlasabyssplanetprefab
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon1 with Prefab1
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon1 with Prefab1
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon3 with Prefab3
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon1 with Prefab1
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon2 with Prefab2
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon1 with Prefab1
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon3 with Prefab3
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon1 with Prefab1
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon3 with Prefab3
[NightSkyPlugin] Replaced currentPlanetPrefab for moon2 with Prefab2

[halcyon ermine]

ah. That is a problem right now. If a modded moon uses its own planetprefab my program doesn't know what to do

[fair dagger]

so Atlas Abyss planet breaks this mod, right?

[halcyon ermine]

I'm gonna switch to LevelTags very soon and then this should be resolved. No it doesn't break it necesarrily. It just doesn't work when you are orbiting Atlas

[fair dagger]

but I'm orbiting the Experimental rn

[halcyon ermine]

You might be able to hook onto one of these values and change them in an animation, I'll dm you a unitypackage with one of the planetprefabs that I made

[halcyon ermine]

can you drop your entire LogOutput.Log file

[gaunt ingot]

alright

[gaunt ingot]

Try going to the config for ship windows and setting "HideSpaceProps" to false

I'm glad I added that log message to show what the setting was

[fair dagger]

ok, testing rn

let's goo, thank you

[halcyon ermine]

nice, thank you

[gaunt ingot]

Shouldn't the config mod be changing that though?

Or does it only change the initial default values

[fair dagger]

It did create the config with correct values, but in the plugin folder

[gaunt ingot]

hmmm

[halcyon ermine]

it does work for me. It places it in the plugins folder, but that shouldn't matter

[dire herald]

Ngl Aquatis goes hard. Sure, loot sucks and the map is big, but the outside is really fun

playing duos with my bf and having to avoid Baboon Hawks is a cool minigame almost

because the land is so limited

thought we do exploid their consistent nesting site to help move items closer to the ship >:)

[fair dagger]

probably this

[halcyon ermine]

Thank you! great to hear that you like it!

[fair dagger]

because I installed and tested your mod without the Celestial-Tint

[halcyon ermine]

there are more updates coming to Aquatis in the not so distant future

[halcyon ermine]

ah that would do it, lol

[gaunt ingot]

ah

[halcyon ermine]

if you look at my screenshot you can see it created a ShipWindow config in the config folder, but probably copied the setting from the one in the plugins folder

[fair dagger]

Hmm, you are probably forget to move it to BepInEx

so BepInEx/Configs/...cfg

[lapis turret]

It wont work

[halcyon ermine]

Yeah it only works on fresh installs, which is annoying. And the Configs folder is supposed to be set up like that acording to the mod

[lapis turret]

wait I had it show black sky with stars

[lapis turret]

why dose it add a config file for ship windows

I have 2 now.

[copper linden]

DefaultConfigs

[halcyon ermine]

The one it created in the Celestial_Tint folder works

[lapis turret]

if I delete it and you send out a update and I update will it add it back

[halcyon ermine]

I think it will update when you delete the config file that is inside the config folder

[copper linden]

Honestly it's probably better suited for modpacks, but looks like for regular mods you may get issues without fresh installs. It's possible to make tools to move the files as necessary, but mods that do specifically that require booting the game twice in my experience

[lapis turret]

also where do I customise what color is for each moon

I could not find the config file

[gaunt ingot]

I suppose in the worst case I could maybe have ship windows detect this mod and give control regardless of the config settings

That way the config conflicting won't be an issue, and unsuspecting users won't think this is broken

[lapis turret]

But how do I change the color of the planet I am orbiting.

[halcyon ermine]

thats not a feature

[lapis turret]

I thought you said for modded moons I can select the color

[copper linden]

That's for modders to implement on their end

[halcyon ermine]

modders can select which one of the presets they want to use

[lapis turret]

oh

can you make it config through

[halcyon ermine]

But i'm goona changing the system

[halcyon ermine]

idk that is very difficult i think

It wont be a priority

[halcyon ermine]

if you're gonna go through with that, it's maybe smart to also make it so you can turn that off in the config.

[gaunt ingot]

yeah for sure

I really need to clean my config up, but I'd rather not break everyone's settings

Lots of 'negative' options

[halcyon ermine]

make it a 1.4 update and add a new feature. If it's just an update that breaks your config, i dont think anyone would want to download it

[gaunt ingot]

Yeah it would need to be a big update

Ship upgrades would be a good justification

[copper linden]

window lore update when 👀

[lapis turret]

can you make the different star options appear on there

because I kind of like black and white stars better than galaxys.

[halcyon ermine]

I'm going to do another art pass and a lore pass on all the planets.

[copper linden]

When you switch to LevelTags, are you considering making more tint colors that could broadly apply to various vague level tags? Unfamiliar with how much goes into this and I doubt it's that simple, but generally what I was imagining is this

[fleet pilot]

Is this the full vanilla tag list?

[copper linden]

No lmao

[fleet pilot]

I was like, Candy?😂😂

Wtf is zeekers making😂😂

[copper linden]

Wasteland, Desert, Canyon Snow, Ice, Tundra, Forest, Valley, Vanilla, and Company I think are the vanilla tags?

Something along those lines

[fleet pilot]

That sounds about right

[copper linden]

I think Quota might be another one for Gordion but yeah

[covert pulsar]

Cheese is 100% regarding Nikki's moon cause idk what other place it could be referring to cheese aside from their moon

[copper linden]

That is correct, first thing that came to mind

[covert pulsar]

Candy is uh, interesting, dunno which one it's referring to for that one 🤔

[copper linden]

Most of those tags are completely made up but should allow for the majority of existing moons to add a fitting tag is the idea

Some like candy are purely just future proofing and filling out categories

Almost put Carnival/Clown in pink for Bozoros but didn't want to lock them into that

^ I will now be clowned in 1-3 business days

[frigid topaz]

Is there a reason Celestial Tint uses DefaultConfigs as a dependency? 😆 from the description it has it sounds kind of unnecessary

[copper linden]

When using default ShipWindows you won't see anything the mod adds without tweaking settings. DefaultConfigs lets you share configs without profile codes essentially. It's useful for modpacks but this is a solid niche case use targeted to anyone downloading either mod for the first time.

[frigid topaz]

Yeah I saw it doesn't really work tbh, I adjusted the config manually and deleted the dependency

[copper linden]

Yeah seems to be an issue for anyone already using ShipWindow. Solution going forward is either tweaking ShipWindows default config or making a config/file moving tool. The latter is doable but idk if it can be done without having the user launch the game twice.

[vernal solstice]

I was trying to add custom interior to aquatis and I tried listing it as aquatis and 112 aquatis and it doesn't work either time

any idea what I can do

[fleet pilot]

Do you have LECore?

You need it for custom interiors on aquatis

[vernal solstice]

Yeah I do

I've got custom interior for 3 other moons working

just aquatis doesn't seem to work

[fleet pilot]

How are you changing the weights of the interiors? Through LLL? Thats how I do it and it works

[vernal solstice]

I'm using lethal config and changing the config of the interior mod I'm using to only spawn the interior on just aquatis

[fleet pilot]

Don't know anything about Lethal Config, I just do everything in the Edit config section of the thunderstore. I recommend setting the weights through LLL's config, I use the Manual Level Names List section

[vernal solstice]

I'll check that out

For reference im changing the configuration of scoopys interior mod

[fleet pilot]

The LLL config has worked great for me, plus all your interior weight changes will be in one place

[fleet pilot]

Yeah I have sewer pretty common on aquatis

and bunker

[vernal solstice]

yeah that's what I'm trying to accomplish

I'll have a look at lll config

thanks

[fleet pilot]

Make sure if you enable content configuration and use the manual level name list, you leave the other weight injection settings blank or else it'll throw off your values

"112 Aquatis" is the name is use

[jaunty lintel]

Aquatis would work too

[fleet pilot]

I just went with what it said on the thunderstore page 🤷‍♂️

[tranquil tide]

this works with LLLfix, right?

[fleet pilot]

yes

[tranquil tide]

https://tenor.com/view/toonlink-link-triforceheroes-cheer-gif-8044861

[tranquil tide]

orion seems to have some crazy frame drops when looking at the big church building

i go from 60+ to around 30 or so

[uncut nacelle]

the orbit space moon mod isnt working for me

im actually having a ton of issues idk if they are lethalexpansion or diversity incompatibilities or what

orion and celest both crash my computer

overloading the gpu actually when i turn it back on, its still 97C

i just upgraded to the new adrenalin edition and that didnt fix anything but i have p much all AMD tech

the orbit mod doesnt crash me but the brightness is totally insane

i think thats just diversity or something

so idfk what happened there lol but it looks weird. But I am getting an error spam 'Cascade shadow atlasing has failed, only one directional light shadow can be cast at a time'

i also have HDLethalCompany idk if anyone else is using that anymore

oh and im over March right now

uploading pics

first one is normal gamma second one i turned the gamma all the way down

[plucky stream]

DefaultConfigs is making a mess out of my configs folder by making a whole ton of folders from other mods, especially LETHALRESONANCE.

[uncut nacelle]

my config for ship window is already exact same to yours too

[gaunt ingot]

What's your mod list? That message is from there being 2 directional lights in the scene, so there's another mod interfering somewhere

Ship window doesn't add one

[uncut nacelle]

i cant say that i have anything that does

unless uh

whats that shiplight mod

its in here somewhere

for the moons

i also have modded moons and this doesnt work with modded moons

so no reason for me to switch out rn.

[gaunt ingot]

Yeah if you have ship lights/space sun shine you'll want to disable it with this mod

[uncut nacelle]

ill wait until he creates compatibility for modded content

i also came here to report my crashes with desats new moon updates

i get these same computer bricking crashes with anything in the starlancer series

and these projects share changes in lighting

turns off my computer. just an absolute gpu overload.

[fleet pilot]

My bet is get rid of the HDmod

[uncut nacelle]

id trade better resolution for literally any of the mods in my pack

tbh

its because this game uses HDRP

[fleet pilot]

otherwise start disabling mods till you can isolate the issue, there must be some conflict

[uncut nacelle]

the only reason it even runs at all is because its a 540p

its a vanilla issue

literally but some mods exacerbate the problem

HD lethal company is fine if you don't use native res.

but noone has figured out the issue yet

and its possible to do so right now because both of these projects are doing something similar and creating a similar rendering problem. at that, it doesn't seem to affect most users. but most users don't have all AMD

also there should be a warning somewhere if someone was using a computer they built that might not have temp control if the rendering issue is that bad you could really cause damage.

i can be as low as 80C on my gpu this will still crash me in less than a second.

its just a weird rendering engine thing and i took off my visor for this reason because the DOF the engine uses for the visor is super intensive and hard on your system

[jaunty lintel]

what issue?

[uncut nacelle]

crashing on modded moons ever since the lighting update for orion

and every moon that has updated its lighting like that, the starlancer series for example, is now crashing my pc

i get a huge temp increase and my laptop turns itself off at 100C but it happens faster than i can see it

[jaunty lintel]

oh yeah those issues suckkk

[uncut nacelle]

im a little concerned about the underlying issue which i think is really HDRP

but it can do ungodly things to computers.

[jaunty lintel]

i dont know much about the issue because its really hard to trouble shoot but

i think it's related to runtime shader compilation regarding the custom assets from bundles

[uncut nacelle]

yeah its really confusing

but i think its a worse version of the 'cannot render texture xxxx X xxxx'

and might have something to do with scaling as it loads

idfk

like i have super resolution and HD lethal company running together so i can get it to a res that my computer can upscale

and i can run the game fine in any case other than these updated moons

[uncut nacelle]

this is my only guess because its the only other time i see the game stop suddenly and not throw errors. other than the quit crash

and i think it just never gets to throw an error because i have so many mods now, between dungeon size and whatever else it crashes faster.

[jaunty lintel]

not how it works

shader related errors don’t throw errors

[uncut nacelle]

ah

[jaunty lintel]

Cuz its not code that’s failing

[uncut nacelle]

so what was the render texture error and how did it just disappear like two months ago

well im confused af like i said so

oh on this topic

i got celestial tint to work

[uncut nacelle]

...and then got the same crash?

bricked me.

twice now. celestial tint will load in at first, but when i route to another moon i crash.

[uncut nacelle]

just had to confirm.. HD lethal company is not causing my crashes. its actually just sfdesat moons, starlancer moons and celestial tint

i was able to reproduce the crash again with only these things in my plugins

cleaned out AC and mirage dependencies from my core and patchers folders too just to be sure

also that is the lethallevelloader fixed fork and not ACs fork

the license file is just left over

back to me thinking it has to be an HDRP problem and probably exclusive to my drivers even though i am up to date for certain

[uncut nacelle]

tried fixing the problem by rolling back to bepinex 5.21 and removing reshade

it had some effect i got the game to load new moons 4 or 5 times but still crashed

[frigid topaz]

BepinEx version doesn't matter for an issue like that

[fleet pilot]

You wanna try my code and see if it works for you? I know my stuff all works so if you still have issues it's probably something with your pc

[uncut nacelle]

yeah reshade was what helped

its not a mod issue

its a hardware issue

like i said its something to do with HDRP and how my drivers render the game

has to be because fiddling with that is the only thing thats made a difference

like i cant run up to date reshade on LC

but thats not a common bug, has to be my machine

lol adrenalin says im running the game at 1300 fps so im trying a limiter again

i just dont know at all. that didnt do shit. same crash, after 4 or 5 different moons.

but removing reshade def improved it

[uncut nacelle]

tried turning off my graphics settings driver side but that didnt have much impact

seems like reshade maybe sort of fixed it. has anyone else tried pushing the celestial tint mod by travelling to a handful of moons to see if its stable? somewhere between 4 and 6 i always crash. its not moon dependent

im going to try some other stuff to see how much of an impact reshade was having on my computer

[fleet pilot]

Testing other things I went to 5 moons with no issue. I'll load up my testing config and land and take off at a bunch of moons for you hold on

[fleet pilot]

Went to 10 moons total, 5 vanilla and 5 modded. No infinite loading or crash

I did learn that stormy weather tanks my performance, especially on modded moons 🙃 (my group just tends to avoid it)

[halcyon ermine]

that is exactly my idea, and maybe also add different versions in the same category

[jaunty lintel]

could consider weather aswell

[fleet pilot]

Different versions in the same category could be good, what about support for multiple categories? There are a lot of maps with Wasteland XD

Some maps have more than one I think

[uncut nacelle]

no dont go to the moon

like as in load the dungeon

[halcyon ermine]

yeah so maybe Wasteland[number] or i assign a random one based on the maps name.

[uncut nacelle]

but routing from one place to the next

and having it load the celestial tint scene

[fleet pilot]

I landed each time

[uncut nacelle]

i didn't.

[halcyon ermine]

yeah i definitely want to add eclipsed and maybe thunderstorms could be cool

[uncut nacelle]

im suspecting actually if i land i wont have the problem

[jaunty lintel]

(leveltags don't exist in vanilla)

[fleet pilot]

Really?? Consider my mind blown

[halcyon ermine]

oh my bad, i've been spreading lies

[jaunty lintel]

wym?

[fleet pilot]

the crashing was just from switching? I had no problems with that either

[jaunty lintel]

i suppose it's less of a lie and more of a compliment 😅

[fleet pilot]

It just makes sense to have implemented within the game

tho tbf zeekers is missing a ton of obvious features

[uncut nacelle]

at first switching once

when i removed reshade it crashes after 5 routes

[halcyon ermine]

i thought they where in vanilla

[uncut nacelle]

he's a solo dev and a young guy

[jaunty lintel]

dassa iambatby exclusive

[uncut nacelle]

coming from roblox.

[jaunty lintel]

if you have any suggestions on the system hmu anytime

[fleet pilot]

I've told you before but I'll say it again. Setting enemy spawns based on interiors. It would allow the perfect blending of interior mods with enemy mods. Like Scopophobia with SCPFoundation, or Herobrine with Minecraft Interiors

It would be very sick

Or did you mean the tag system 😂

[jaunty lintel]

i did mean the tag system yes

but your suggestion will actually tie into the leveltag system evenutally

when LLL supports custom enemy integration

[fleet pilot]

I did see something about that on here. So does that mean the moon enemy settings don't work with modded enemies?

People keep saying modded enemies don't spawn on modded moons but that hasn't been the case for me

but I don't mess with the moon settings, just the dungeonflow ones

[vernal solstice]

I messed with the interior config on lll and it still doesnt choose the modded interior this is very confusing

[uncut nacelle]

i solved my first crash

seems like

uh im stuck with a really ugly font on my computer though now? its like low res times new roman

but bios update did fix my celestial tint problems

so ugly lol

[vernal solstice]

what the heck

[uncut nacelle]

seems to have solved my other loading problems too.

[vernal solstice]

how does that happen

[uncut nacelle]

idfk

but they got stuff really screwed up for my model

if i went by asus instructions id be on 12 month old drivers and id have never touched my bios

fixed it with windows settings

nvm ig im screwed or something idek

just got lucky and ran it for ten minutes on a fluke

[halcyon ermine]

Ok so I finally got tags working. It took a while. This means LLL will become a dependency since that is needed for tags to work. I will also work on more presets so modders get more variety.

[halcyon ermine]

I have currently implemented 5 preset for the tags: Wasteland, desert, company, forest and frozen. I'm adding more

[lapis turret]

Can you remove the default config as a dependency

It keeps messing up my files

[halcyon ermine]

that is going to be removed in the next update, in favour of something else

[lapis turret]

And can you make the stars customizable

[quaint holly]

How did you get a modder role with all those constant requests?

[lapis turret]

More like the ship window star options

[lapis turret]

Because I made a mod

[halcyon ermine]

hehe lol

[lapis turret]

Just a request

[halcyon ermine]

i wont for a little while. i currently have to make priorities of some features

[lapis turret]

All good

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint [1.1.0]

• Added support for LevelTags and added a fallback option
• Added three more tag presets.
• Removed DefaultConfigs dependency
• Added LethalLevelLoader dependency
• Updated description
  I have also remade the documentation: https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/wiki/Adding-support-for-Celestial-Tint

Thunderstore will take a moment to update

I messed up the dependencies so please skip 1.1.0 and update to 1.1.1

[uncut nacelle]

i've noticed the ship is brighter inside now

is that due to celestial tint?

[halcyon ermine]

probably, if it only happened after adding Celestial Tint. it does place a new sun in the sky

[uncut nacelle]

well it makes sense when the windows are open

it'd be nice if it wasnt like that when the windows are closed

its the same on celest

but not on titan for example so i assume its your new sun

[fleet pilot]

tbh I don't think mine is any brighter than before

Maybe it's a tiny bit brighter. If anything it's just more yellow

[fleet pilot]

must be something else

[halcyon ermine]

oh yeah, maybe its because i disabled fog. You can see it around the lights

maybe (if it works) i'll add some volumetric fog inside the ship

[fleet pilot]

Honestly I think the lighting with celestial tint in better lol

looks sharper or more natural or something

[halcyon ermine]

yeah, but the volumetric fog added to the "scary" atmosphere of the base game

[fleet pilot]

Is it really needed in orbit tho?

[halcyon ermine]

probably not, but i'll still take a look

[gaunt ingot]

I had disabled fog in windows too

[fleet pilot]

If you add it back in I'd honestly like as a setting, I like the current one a lot

[gaunt ingot]

Ended up being able to set the max distance to like 20 to re-enable it without space getting foggy

[halcyon ermine]

yeah maybe i can use local volumetric fog. to only make it show in the ship

[fleet pilot]

also why would there be fog in a pressurized space ship 🙃 😂

[uncut nacelle]

turn the lights off

lmfao

[fleet pilot]

you didn't mention that lol, you normally keep the lights off?

[uncut nacelle]

🤦‍♂️

[halcyon ermine]

This is in-editor so its a bit different

[halcyon ermine]

you didn't say with the lights off

[uncut nacelle]

not at first lol

[uncut nacelle]

this has nothing to do this way or that with what i said at first

i just think thats a dumb question lmao

[halcyon ermine]

you okay?

[uncut nacelle]

like yeah sure dude i didnt just turn the lights off to test the lighting

i definitely just sit in the ship with the lights off and stare at the walls because thats fun

[fleet pilot]

you still should have mentioned it for reproducibility

[uncut nacelle]

between myself and him the communication was already clear enough

afaik

[halcyon ermine]

dude let it go?

[uncut nacelle]

when did i attack anyone anyways

[rocky sundial]

why is frozen so orange? it looks more like wasteland

[restive minnow]

ye frozen isn't grey/pale enough me thinks

it's probably the sun light's colour that is changing it

[halcyon ermine]

No its a limitation with the texture I'm using. I assign the sun a random position when the planet gets loaded in and when you get unlucky the sun is low enough where it doesn't interact with the sky enough to make it white. (the planet texture is orange/brownish) I forgot to change this, but thanks for telling me

[rocky sundial]

hope an animation for changing moons is added soon

clouds over the planets would be really cool

[halcyon ermine]

I'm gonnar try my best to get them both impemented

[restive minnow]

looking forward to it mate, the orbiting animation and weather effects on the moons are the most needed features to make the mod prefect

[desert tendon]

@halcyon ermine I apologize if I wrote in the wrong place, but I found this bug with the SpaceStation moon
Moreover, we found such interesting moments. The door opens, but the passage is half blocked. That is, you cannot go through an open door. The girl got stuck on the stairs and could not go up or down, respectively.

I liked this pillar that stands over the abyss, like some kind of element of parkour)

Build code 018e1e8b-1c70-1d4e-8bee-3e04a9268a33 without mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/STANK/Stank_Club/ (But it was updated about 3 minutes ago, I think the problem was fixed)

[fleet pilot]

It's a bug/conflict with backrooms, I reported it the other day. Pretty sure he's working on a fix

[halcyon ermine]

sneakpeak (made by @wanton vessel) let me know your thoughts

[hearty solstice]

I think a cool moon feature just for sometime in the future would be to allow for a preset where the sun is much dimmer (as though further away), or not visible at all, and make the surface much darker. For example, Rend and Dine, Atlas Abyss, Auralis, and some other moons are dark or very dim pretty much all the time, so looking like the surface is lit up from orbit could be a bit inconsistent

[halcyon ermine]

That would build well on another idea i had of having another tag be used like: sun1 = normal sun, sun2 = twin sun, sun3 = white dwarf etc.

[alpine lantern]

Infernis not generating mod scrap. Is there a problem? It seems to be the same on other planets

[quaint holly]

By default modded scrap/entities won't spawn on modded moons.

[alpine lantern]

"Where can it be used?"

[halcyon ermine]

look in the config file for the scrap that you want to let spawn.

[alpine lantern]

this?

[halcyon ermine]

probably. make a backup of the list first

[alpine lantern]

I meaning is, the 'Rock' above has never been generated

[halcyon ermine]

Meteor proof of concept.

[halcyon ermine]

maybe you got unlucky

[alpine lantern]

"But even when I set it to 100, it still hasn't been generated."

[halcyon ermine]

it uses "weight", so the value is relative. If two items have both 100. Its a 50/50 percent chance to spawn

[alpine lantern]

oh

I will give it a try. Thank you for your response.

[rocky sundial]

maybe make the trail a bit more blurry?

[tulip kindle]

I agree, it would give it more of a "streaking across the sky" effect

[rocky sundial]

and a longer trail too

[alpine lantern]

i think

I true this

mod scrap will not spawn

uhhh

[halcyon ermine]

The modded scrap is then not in the list of scrap for that planet. You need to add it in there

[tulip kindle]

Enabling that will overwrite anything any other mod is trying to do

[halcyon ermine]

what about support for ringed planets? (if thats possible)

[alpine lantern]

oh i got it

thanks

[fleet pilot]

Sounds awesome

[tulip kindle]

Definitely would be cool. Just checking, this is Celestial Tint? And it's all just for eye-candy, right?

[halcyon ermine]

yeah pretty much lol. (the screenshot is Helldivers 2)

[rocky sundial]

being able to configure it to make certain moons have a ring (maybe visible in on-moon skybox too) would be sick

[halcyon ermine]

I dont know if i'll be able to change the on-moon skybox, but i'll look into the possibilities

[rocky sundial]

i think company should be a bit more grey, it looks a little like a space texture put onto a moon

[halcyon ermine]

uhm let me tell you something lol

[rocky sundial]

is it a space texture put onto a moon

[halcyon ermine]

it is yes

i still have to redo the company moon

[rocky sundial]

i think it should be lots of dark grey clouds

[halcyon ermine]

yeah i gotta figure out a good way of making that. its another item on the list

[rocky sundial]

also about the textures, i think they should be a bit more high resolution. would you be able to send the moon textures here?

[halcyon ermine]

they're right now 4k, but if I make them 8k they take up like 256Mb

a piece

[rocky sundial]

goodness, they don't really feel that way

[halcyon ermine]

But there is maybe a way i can up the perceived resolution

the planet has a diameter of 600.000m

[alpine lantern]

Sorry for asking so many questions. but i enable this all special scrap won't generate in infernis "Only vanilla items will generate, even if the stone is on the list."

[halcyon ermine]

It may be a problem with LethalExpansion and LethalLevelLoader. Maybe Wesley (creator of Infernis) has had this issue before. This is the link for moons made by wesley https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1204432295025578014

[alpine lantern]

thank you

[halcyon ermine]

Some more Spacestation action (made by tolian)

[fleet pilot]

Looking sick🔥 is this what we're entering? What's with the large grid section?😅

[halcyon ermine]

It will be the dungeon, but it will remain connected to the ship. So it will feel like a branch of the spaceship

[fleet pilot]

That sounds awesome!

[tulip kindle]

Like a predetermined dungeon?

[halcyon ermine]

no it will be generated on runtime.

[fleet pilot]

Does the shape of the station correspond to the shape of the interior generation? If so that's really cool

[halcyon ermine]

It works like anyother level, with the exception that you will be able to see the dungeon, because it will be connected to the Spacestation itself

[fleet pilot]

Wait so this has its own interior basically?

[halcyon ermine]

Tolian is designing it currently

[tulip kindle]

Will there be an exterior? Or is it essentially just a landing space with doors into the dungeon?

[fleet pilot]

This is very exciting, you two make some great work

[halcyon ermine]

No there will be an exterior and an interior for the exterior. So a fully fledged Spacestation

Here is a confidential design document

[fleet pilot]

I see your drawing skills are about equal to mine😂

[tulip kindle]

Kk, one thing to keep in mind (idk how you're designing it ofc) but you'll want to keep the dungeon root low. I believe Zeekers has a hardcode somewhere on Masked that marks inside as below -80y
The other reason being that StarlancerAIFix calculates a height division between inside and outside AI nodes, and if you don't you'll force me to rewrite my code 🤭

[halcyon ermine]

oh that is a bit of a problem yeah. The idea was to put it at roughly the same height. Maybe I can patch it at runtime

[tulip kindle]

Once you get a working version, if you'll allow me to beta test it I might be able to come up with something as well

[halcyon ermine]

thank you. another option is to copy the masked enemy and edit the script and add it as a dll

[wanton vessel]

too secretive

[tulip kindle]

Really what I'd be doing is making the detection logic for inside vs outside more accurate, checking for the closest type of node instead of marking a division in between the exterior and the dungeon.

[tulip kindle]

I'm not sure what you mean by this?

[halcyon ermine]

Copy the masked and its scripts into the project files and first build the adjusted scripts as a dll and then reference those dll's for the masked enemy. So you basically make your own fork of the masked. But this would only work on one moon

[tulip kindle]

Ohhhh you meant specifically for the masked

[halcyon ermine]

yes

But that would only work for the Spacestation level

[tulip kindle]

Yea, I'd have to dig in to the masked code a lil and see what the -80y is specifically used for, but I imagine it was put in so that Zeekers could spawn masked outside if he wanted, which the AIFix would take care of if needed

But when you have a same-height dungeon working, throw it at me and I'll test an updated code

[halcyon ermine]

give me a sec

[wanton vessel]

It's sad

[tulip kindle]

?

[wanton vessel]

AiFix will fix all this, right?

[tulip kindle]

sf Desat's stuff is popular and uses the AIFix, so I'd be silly not to work with them to keep it compatible

[wanton vessel]

then it's fun

[halcyon ermine]

Ok so I'll drop the files here. First download spacestation and then replace the files in there with these. The dengeonroot is not connected to the spacestation itself, because it can generate behind the main entrance. It is at the same height as the Spacestation. There are 4 outside AI points. You have to add your own outside enemies via LLL i think.

the skybox doesn't work in here. I have messed around with the files. And dont have the original intact files from Spacestation @tulip kindle

[tulip kindle]

kk, once I have a testable code I'll give it a try

[halcyon ermine]

First in-game test. I say its pretty successful. A lot of problems are noticable but at least it works first time

(weird depth-of-field, meteors are to bright and the trails look weird)

[wanton vessel]

By the way, there's no sound in space

[fleet pilot]

Was really hoping you'd get smacked by one😂😂 jokes aside it looks freaking amazing

[jaunty lintel]

i wonder if you could chuck a scannode down there

[halcyon ermine]

wdym? on the planet?

[jaunty lintel]

yeee

or atleast in its direction

[halcyon ermine]

I should probably make it so if you step outside the sound is gone

[fleet pilot]

That a cool idea

[halcyon ermine]

that is a really good idea

[wanton vessel]

meteor shower vs space station

[fleet pilot]

That would be a pretty nice effect, tho should ship doors be doing technically?

[small wigeon]

for the trails you can use sub emitters that would break up the straight line

[halcyon ermine]

I dont know if that mod is still supported

[small wigeon]

a bit more expensive you don't have to go full force with them

[halcyon ermine]

Yeah i was trying to get them to work, but it didn't at the time so I just did a trail for now.

[fleet pilot]

Welp more work for you I guess🙃😅

[halcyon ermine]

its worth it. there wont be a lot of meteors on screen at the same time

[halcyon ermine]

lol, maybe i'll add the functionality in myself. if i need to

[fleet pilot]

Speaking of sound in space, do you have an entry room in mind for the space station? What about a big airlock

[halcyon ermine]

i was thinking of adding something where the ship would lock onto, but that may leave players on the railings trapped

[wanton vessel]

mmm

[fleet pilot]

Also now that I think about it, what is the plan with fire exits?

[halcyon ermine]

probably put them in a place without windows and just act like they are totally connected

[fleet pilot]

Could add sounds when first entering to make it more immersive

[wanton vessel]

I can't imagine a landing pad yet

[fleet pilot]

Parkour around the outside of this thing could be awesome for getting to and from fire exits

Tho generation would be a lot more difficult

[halcyon ermine]

me neither, i was thinking a kind of docking mechanism (with animations), but that can leave players trapped that are on the railing outside the ship

[wanton vessel]

That's their problem

[halcyon ermine]

hehehe thats fair

[fleet pilot]

What about a star wars style hanger for the ship?

https://images.app.goo.gl/mUbQBrDnBjJteauk8

First thing on Google 😂

[halcyon ermine]

thats a great idea

[wanton vessel]

I thought about it, but then I'd have to redesign the whole station

[fleet pilot]

I really wanna parkour around the outside ngl. It could be so fun

[fleet pilot]

Can't build it around a central room?

[halcyon ermine]

let me do some artistic magic

[wanton vessel]

of course

[fleet pilot]

Like keep what you have just have a large room in the center that is the landing hanger. Generate everything around it branching off like you already do

[fleet pilot]

Excited to see this😂

[halcyon ermine]

It could work with a hangar. Maybe a drawing was unnecesarry

it would be a small "hangar"

[fleet pilot]

The white circle area is the hanger

[wanton vessel]

If so, it looks interesting

[fleet pilot]

Have a hanger room like right here

[halcyon ermine]

yeah maybe my drawing isn't a good idea

[fleet pilot]

It confuses me😅

[shrewd stirrup]

Does the spacestation have enemies and/or lower gravity?

[quaint holly]

Probably not. Bet it would be navigation nightmare, especially for entities.

[fleet pilot]

The lower gravity test is higher up in the channel. It did not go well😂

[wanton vessel]

can

set up some turrets

and mine the station

[quaint holly]

I was talking about low gravity.

Unless all that it entails is higher jump and slower fall.

Which it probably does and I'm thinking about zero-g.

[fleet pilot]

How would the player even move 👀

[halcyon ermine]

The problem with gravity is that zeekers has hard coded a lot of things. I don't know a good way of paching into those systems at runtime. So i pushed it into the future

[slate blade]

Makes sense why the current SpaceStation looks like a floating platform atm!

[halcyon ermine]

yeah the current Spacestation build that is on the thunderstore is more a proof of concept.

[slate blade]

The current one works so well as a starter moon tbh

The fact the interior is practically in permanent daytime makes it very easy to explore, but also very very unique and kinda liminal in a way

Most likely not intended, but figured to speak Masa's mind regardless cx

[halcyon ermine]

its likely to change. I can't say which way, because i'm not sure myself yet

[fleet pilot]

Some sort of circular airlocks for fire exits could be cool. https://images.app.goo.gl/TutHYsdnQEfkK9hD6

[halcyon ermine]

These are the planned features. From highest priority to lowest

[tulip kindle]

gonna try to get a more accurate pic

Dog got inside AI when spawned inside, outside AI when spawned outside :3c

@halcyon ermine can you make a quick change and put the root above the exterior for me?
That's the real test

[minor raptor]

finally played on orion and celest for the first time, here are my thoughts:

• both of them are a bit laggy for me, compared to vanilla moons and other custom moons
• orion feels too empty, needs more set pieces, especially on the way to the church

other than that, i'm a fan

[halcyon ermine]

give me a moment

[halcyon ermine]

great to hear! I am going to try some more performance improvements and while the emptiness of the desert is intended, i do want to add some more small details

[minor raptor]

i like those derelict buildings you can see off in the distance, having one of those you can walk around in and explore on the main path to the church would be pretty cool. maybe put a fire exit in there

[halcyon ermine]

Yeah i wanna move one of the fire exit, but this will come in the Lore Update. (Lore Update will come to all three moons)

[minor raptor]

you're working on aquatis redesign/LLL port next right?

[halcyon ermine]

the Aquatis port is done. I'm just looking to get a water system working in-game. If it's possible, it would have to be supported by an update via LLL

[minor raptor]

oh, cool. i'll give that a try too whenever it's out

[halcyon ermine]

@tulip kindle Replace this with the SpacestationScene. I placed it far above the playable level

[rocky sundial]

does the moon in celestial tint have an animation for changing yet?

[halcyon ermine]

No not yet I will work on that after I remake the back-end to support shaders.

[rocky sundial]

alright

[halcyon ermine]

Speaking of shaders, I finally got this working. This means I can make clouds or thunerstorms

[jaunty lintel]

homie has been on that grind

[halcyon ermine]

took a while and still no idea how i did it

[jaunty lintel]

@junior phoenix is poggie with shaders too

[halcyon ermine]

im definitely gonna need to ask him some question later lol

[jaunty lintel]

good thing about shader stuff is how generic it is

doesn't really need to be tailor made for LC at all

[halcyon ermine]

no that is the great thing. I can finally use stackoverflow or reddit to figure out my problems again

[fleet pilot]

Should have presets for different lightning colors with the storms

Green could look good for that acid rain @wanton vessel

[halcyon ermine]

Im definitely gonna add more different presets

[gaunt ingot]

Had a fun thought that it would be cool to see other players' ships helldiver's 2 style, but idk the lore implications, plus you never see other people on the moon with you

And you'd need an outside server to handle it

[halcyon ermine]

I could give it a try. but i would propably fake it. So not real players.

[tulip kindle]

I'll let you know how it goes!

[fleet pilot]

I mean mimics spawn on rend and titan and they seem like former employees. Could be ships left on autopilot orbiting the moon waiting for new people to join the company

[halcyon ermine]

A little back I was working on the Fleet Maintenance Hub. A lore-friendly place where ship would be cleaned and repaired. I can use some this from that

[tulip kindle]

It works :3

[halcyon ermine]

fantastic

[wanton vessel]

Dogs in dungeons are awesome

[tulip kindle]

Even though lots of people like what SLAI has done, I'm sure there's plenty that would prefer it never existed for all the horrors it's created 🤭

[rocky sundial]

and anyone who prefers that is a coward

[halcyon ermine]

im going to throw my pc out the windows in a sec. this is stupid

shaders are the devil's work

[tulip kindle]

I have a friend who would vehemently agree with you

[halcyon ermine]

there is genuinely NO REASON for it to not work

its actually stupid

good lord its a historic moment

[gaunt ingot]

The frantic attempt to open the door shows the struggle you've been through

[halcyon ermine]

oh man its been hours

[tulip kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/praising-gif-9178826062568275723

[halcyon ermine]

but these hours paid off in an explosion of posibilities

and i have still no clue how i did it

[rocky sundial]

yippep

[halcyon ermine]

the even better part is that i can up the resolution without increasing file size

[rocky sundial]

oh that's pretty big

[lapis turret]

w

[copper linden]

SpaceSunShine should now be compatible with CelestialTint via configs for people who had trouble before

[halcyon ermine]

ok little update for Celestial Tint. I cant get the shaders (used for the planets texture) to update via code. This is probably a bug with the Unity Engine, but this means no clouds, no on-planet weather. The current build will increase performance, reduce file size, increase resolution and add more variety.

[tulip kindle]

smh my head, unplayable

[halcyon ermine]

and there is a random change for a meteor shower

[junior phoenix]

Yes hello

[rocky sundial]

you must solve all shader problems immediately

[junior phoenix]

[halcyon ermine]

It would be great if you could help. I do have to warn you that this is a very specific problem.

I have a shader (PlanetShaderGraph) build via Shadergraph that gets in a texture and a colour and multiplies them and outputs them into a Custom Render Texture (CRT). This CRT is setup as a cubemap and takes in a material that has the Shader assigned. I then assign this CRT into the physics based sky, which is how I make the planets. Now I can change the colours and textures inside the shadergraph using the parameters on the top-left. The result will be applied immediately if I set the CRT's Intialization mode and Update mode to realtime (not relevant). The problem is that when I try to access these parameters (SurfaceColor and SurfaceTexture) via script, nothing happens. I try to change them by getting a material that has the Shader and using:
planetMaterial.SetColor("_SurfaceColor", planetTint);
planetMaterial.SetTexture("_SurfaceTexture", planetTexture);
The material changes color and/or texture, but not the shader (I think). The CRT doesn't change at all. So the planet stays the color that was assigned to the SurfaceColor inside ShaderGraph.

It's not my best explaination and it's probably a strange edgecase, but if you have any idea what could cause this, that would be very helpful

[junior phoenix]

I haven't done much render texture but look closely in the inspector there a "update" property and it's set on "Onload". With that setup you need to refresh the render texture manually in code. I don't know the code exactly for it but it'll be something like CRT.Update() or CRT.Render(). Or if it's available maybe you can change "update" to always perhaps?

Otherwise the way you described how you change the values looks fine to me.

[halcyon ermine]

UADHG FLAG GDF HA F JASo APO UGOUI Pvsdjgosaig

i figured it out damn

I had set the materials like in the screenshot. intead of both using the PlanetMaterial on the left.

its such a stupid mistake. thank you for your help though!

i was stuck for hours on this

everything is working now

[lapis turret]

are you going to upload it now or later

[halcyon ermine]

gotta rework some of the presets, but i am aiming for uploading it now

[lapis turret]

k

[heady yarrow]

Me last night on the rafters of Gordion Sect-0, trying to juggle a Hygrodere, two Coil-Heads, a Bracken, and two Masked

I still can’t believe of all the things that were after me, it was a Masked hiding in the ship that killed me

And not something killing me while I was dancing around a Hygrodere while trying to keep an eye on a Coil-Head on each flight of stairs, all while attempting to keep tabs on the Bracken (which was on its way up the stairs behind one of the Coil-Heads)

Fully expected the coil heads to kill me when I noticed the second one

[halcyon ermine]

No update today. The code has started to act up again and its getting late for me.

[tranquil tide]

thats alright!! get some rest

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint [1.1.2]

• Reworked the entire back-end
• Switched from cubemaps to shaders
• Increased Planet Resolution
• Increased Performance
• Reduced File size
• Added a meteorshower event (1 in 3)

[dire herald]

Petition to add a third fire exit to aquatis available on the deck of the decorative ship, accessible only with an extension ladder

Might do solo aquatis only runs

Those baboon hawks can be nasty

[trim stream]

Especially in groups

[halcyon ermine]

Quick note on the meteor showers, it seems the viewdistance is not set up correctly so you wont see them very good right now.

[halcyon ermine]

I wanna make gameplay changes in the Lore Update

[rose roost]

@halcyon ermine I get this warning every time the visuals load in after routing to a moon with the newest update

[halcyon ermine]

yeah that is the viewdistance problem. it shouldn't be game-breaking. The only thing happening is the console gets spammed a bit.

I'll fix it in the next update. It does mean the meteors aren't really visible right now

[stray solstice]

not sure what mod caused this tbh, someone was late joining, joined as we were routing and vow turned into this for everyone except the host, we guessed it was celestial tint but no real clue

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint does disable the fog, but it should only happen in orbit. Can you send the log file?

[stray solstice]

i remember people saying theres a log file for previous log run too, cant find it tho so i dont have it on me >:c

[halcyon ermine]

I'll try something and hope its fixed in the next update

[stray solstice]

🙏 glgl

[plucky stream]

should normally be at C:\Users\<Acc Name>\AppData\LocalLow\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company\Player-prev.log

[stray solstice]

ah im guessing with modded theres no prev log then

[plucky stream]

nah modded has it too

rather it just shares the path/file

[stray solstice]

interesting

[plucky stream]

what happens is Player.log gets renamed to Player-prev.log

also isn't BepInEx the one that produces those logs in the first place

not 100% sure about that

but yeah modded is logged there too

[halcyon ermine]

Celestal Tint [1.1.3]

• Improved planet visuals
• Fixed late joiners causing the fog to disappear (maybe)
• Fixed viewdistance not being applied
• Temporarily disabled meteor showers

[south bloom]

o dam another update already

i liked the cubemap implementation because i could use the "RotateSpaceSkybox" option from ShipWindows so that the sky would actually move a bit

i figure if a ship is orbiting a planet and moving around.. you'd see different parts of the sky

[rugged sable]

Dang

[halcyon ermine]

i understand, but the cubemap was very limiting in what i could do. And the stars do move although i admit its not perfect right now

I'm working on making a better system

[south bloom]

i look forward to it

i can see improvement to the planet visuals for sure tho

[quaint holly]

That doesn't make much sense in space anyway, so not a big loss.

[brisk canopy]

i placed the teleporter like 50 feet below the ship so you can teleport under the ship flying in, pretty hilarious you go under the map where the tile sets are

[south bloom]

that’s actually a fun idea

i could imagine parkouring on space debris

[south bloom]

i don’t mean to say the sky itself is moving, but it should look like it’s moving considering the orientation and location of the ship is changing as it orbits around a planet so you’ll see different parts of the sky

[fleet pilot]

Randomly generate floating debris and small astroids around the station to assist with the parkour, I like it

[quaint holly]

@halcyon ermine finally checked out Celest after all you updates. You did wonders with optimisations!

[halcyon ermine]

thank you!

[south bloom]

https://youtu.be/ujsrJdvDqR4

[south bloom]

i got to see it. 😎

it’s very cool

[halcyon ermine]

clouds (very wip)

[south bloom]

the clouds look tasty

[south bloom]

the more i think about, the more i think this is such a good idea. parkour would be a great way to kill time while u wait for people to join.

[stray solstice]

clouds tend to be huge and mostly all connected, so if you do make some more, making them huge and bend around is probably realistic

[quaint holly]

That's an awesome idea.

[uncut nacelle]

so we're getting zero-gravity space station alien isolation in lethal company?

[halcyon ermine]

i know i have already scrapped the version in the video lol

[stray solstice]

lmao

[uncut nacelle]

1.12+ is not working for me

just doesn't render anything in orbit

it's def not advanced company. maybe mirage and dependencies? i also have lethalthings.. lategameupgrades. buncha stuff. its also not hdlethalcompany i tested that too

no profile code best i can do is take an image of my plugins folder

[lapis turret]

Change your ship window config

[uncut nacelle]

to what its set already for the mod.

i have everything set the same aside from extra windows and i tried just replacing the config file just to see

[gaunt ingot]

Outside sky 0 and hide space props false right?

[uncut nacelle]

yes

[gaunt ingot]

Hmm

[uncut nacelle]

i thought it could be a shader problem but its not anything im using that messes with shaders

maybe diversity? idfk

i rolled back for now

they rewrote the backend after this patch im using so must be something there

[halcyon ermine]

can you show your LogOutput.Log file and also your modlist?

[uncut nacelle]

^

unless you want images of my plugins folder

[halcyon ermine]

if that shows the mods thats fine

[uncut nacelle]

ill have to update again and run it

[halcyon ermine]

ok, because the LogOutput.Log is useful.

[uncut nacelle]

and i have reshade

[halcyon ermine]

they shoudlnt really be causing problems, maybe reshade? but can you send your LogOutput.Log because Celestial Tint prints a lot to there

[halcyon ermine]

and what did it look like outside. was it completely black? or could you see some things

[uncut nacelle]

completely black but i can see the old moon

[halcyon ermine]

i dont think it even loaded? strange

[uncut nacelle]

yeah that's weird.

taking off reshade ig

[halcyon ermine]

can you go into the Celestial Tint folder and see if there is a NightSky.dll?

[uncut nacelle]

yup

[halcyon ermine]

is it 13 kb, if you can see that

[uncut nacelle]

yeah its in there

maybe something with the other moons that are supposed to have a nightsky plugin

trying some stuff

[halcyon ermine]

do you have celest or spacestation? although it didn't load at all so that wouldn't make sense

I'll try some mod combo's and i'll tell you if i find something

[uncut nacelle]

its not reshade

[halcyon ermine]

what version of AC do you have?

[uncut nacelle]

1.1.10

but i tried it already without ac

[halcyon ermine]

It doesn't really make sense, because the plugin just isn't loading at all. (in blue is your log and the other is how its supposed to look.

[uncut nacelle]

i see lol

i tried removing mirage and dependencies that didnt fix it either

i have bepinex 5.22

maybe that?

[halcyon ermine]

no shoulnd't matter, let me try LE maybe that is messing up

ok can you try as a last resort to reinstall Celestial Tint 1.1.3 (latest)

[uncut nacelle]

i took out dynamic culling

just now and i see that it loaded orbitprefabbundle

[halcyon ermine]

oh?

[uncut nacelle]

yeah

just a wild guess on my part

but i do have cullfactory

and loadstone

[halcyon ermine]

did it work?

[uncut nacelle]

lets see

nah it didnt fix it but it did load

log incoming

[halcyon ermine]

can you try disabling Loadstone it may be skipping some of the loading

[uncut nacelle]

i will but its supposed to just screw with the dun gen i think

[halcyon ermine]

yeah it didn't cause problems for me

[uncut nacelle]

alright then

i dunno then i tried lots of stuff at this point

tried matching the folder name with what it'd look like in a mod manager

and mix-matching the mod load to see if i can find the culprit

i dont want to take everything out right this second

[halcyon ermine]

i understand

i have absolutely no idea why its happening. So the only thing that you can try, that may do something, is temporarily removing NeutronStarSample (no idea what it is nor that it will work)

[uncut nacelle]

yeah i dunno at this point

because i got it to load the assetbundle but it stopped working

or not stopped just still didn't

[sage heath]

Love the celestial tint mod!! adds so much to spice up the feel of orbit, any plans for a transition animation between planets? Its the only thing that feels super off about it so far!

[halcyon ermine]

thank you! animations are planned

[halcyon ermine]

I did an oopsie and fucked around and found out. My Unity project is bricked. I need to reimport everything into a new project if I cant unbrick it. This will take some time. So don't expect any updates for a bit.

[rose roost]

o

was right about to report an issue too lol

[halcyon ermine]

you can still report it. it will just take a little longer for me to fix it

[rose roost]

ah okay

I've noticed a consistently significant performance drop since updating to 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 of celestial tint, both in orbit and on a moon. I tested going back to 1.1.1, and the issue completely went away. My fps normally was at a consistent 60fps but every so often it dips to around 30-40. You can notice it happening in the clip I took here using v1.1.3

[halcyon ermine]

that is good to know. I can maybe fix that. As for on the moons, I think Lethal Company doesn't fully unload everything, but i will have to do some digging

[rose roost]

yeah, I assumed it wasn't unloading and that's what was causing the performance problem when I was on a moon

[halcyon ermine]

@wanton vessel has been cooking.

[cerulean jewel]

I've gotten the opinions of every moon maker on my balacing for moon interiors

If you could, Id love your opinion and feedback on your moons

[halcyon ermine]

I fully agree with Orion. I also like Celest's layout. What is the poolrooms like, isn't most of it maintenance rooms?

[cerulean jewel]

poolrooms is a lot

hold on

im doing a test with it rn

[potent pollen]

no aquatis?

[halcyon ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/no-maidens-gif-27260529

[cerulean jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/incomprehensible-rage-rage-cat-angry-red-filter-gif-26249186

mr desat over here is holding off on releasing it and waiting until LLL updates

[halcyon ermine]

👀

[potent pollen]

preemptively what interiors would u use tho

[halcyon ermine]

sewers

[cerulean jewel]

sewer

maybe bunker

[potent pollen]

both would be great

[cerulean jewel]

office would be nice rare one

[potent pollen]

i can see the entrances being manhole covers

[uncut nacelle]

are those tiles??

[halcyon ermine]

they are.

[uncut nacelle]

ahhh sweet interiors!

[halcyon ermine]

spacestation gonna be sweet

[uncut nacelle]

niiice

hadal laboratories hopefully otw in the next month or 2 as well

that one is also very hi-q

[cerulean jewel]

Poolrooms

[halcyon ermine]

for sure altough the devs have had it busy i think

[uncut nacelle]

the google maps skybox is still hilarious

whoops didnt mean to reply there

[halcyon ermine]

that looks sick. but maybe not that perfect fit for celest.

[cerulean jewel]

what is little fella doing

[wanton vessel]

Does anyone have screenshots of this interior?

[cerulean jewel]

poolrooms is very hard to balance

[uncut nacelle]

yeah i think some new help has stepped in though probably best to just keep an eye out

id chip in if i could

[halcyon ermine]

going for a swim

[cerulean jewel]

its so large and very random

[uncut nacelle]

i thought it was yours @wanton vessel

[uncut nacelle]

am i the only person whos loot bugs are modded into terrifying threats

[cerulean jewel]

how racist did u make em

[uncut nacelle]

molester lootbugs + symbiosis = they shoot shotguns and straight up kidnap you

also they can press the button on the dont touch me thing

and asplode the whole dungeon lmao

[cerulean jewel]

Also @halcyon ermine I dont have poolrooms on celest

[uncut nacelle]

hadal? yeah for sure

[wanton vessel]

I was asking if anyone had screenshots of the interior of the Hadal labs

[uncut nacelle]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1191943294612156436 they're in here just weeks back

[halcyon ermine]

yeah i know I was just asking what it looked like

[cerulean jewel]

oh ok

[uncut nacelle]

if you ask probs they can drop some screens

[halcyon ermine]

but i fully agree with your config

[uncut nacelle]

it really looks sooo good

[cerulean jewel]

i thought for a second I accidently had poolrooms on celest

[cerulean jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-so-proud-tears-emotional-gif-9253934

[uncut nacelle]

is this like an actual spreadsheet you made??

[cerulean jewel]

Hell yea

[potent pollen]

when will we get a religious church interior for orion

[halcyon ermine]

hes finally done

[cerulean jewel]

you dont know how long this took

[wanton vessel]

It's an underwater lab, I take it?

[uncut nacelle]

yup

its original assets though

through and through afaik

[cerulean jewel]

I actually am sick rn because I didnt sleep for like 3 days yesterday working on this

[uncut nacelle]

damn

i've put in some long days on it too

lethal quantities is a bit easier on you for this stuff though

like i have everything manually set but its been redone like.. 14 times? its a lot. best not to overthink

kinda on the fence about wesleys moons

so much content to sift through

probably i have 85% of the moons you do and the only interior i dont have is the minecraft dungeon.
i just set them thematically like you did. based on what the building looks like

realistically you only need 4 new moons max before it becomes an extravaganza

[minor raptor]

i'm really just waiting for wesley to move to LLL

it's been tempting to download LECore so i can play his moons but i'd rather just not bother with it

[rose roost]

@cerulean jewel do you have a copy-paste of the config list values for each interior? the bunker for example: Experimentation:30,Assurance:30,Offense30 and so on and so forth?

[cerulean jewel]

yes

My spreadsheet auto generates these

Make sure to thank @hearty solstice for making the original spreadsheet formulas

[rose roost]

oh I'm dumb, completely forgot that spreadsheets have the other pages at the bottom left 😭

[cerulean jewel]

lmao

[rose roost]

tbh I'm also sleep deprived while making my own modlist lmao

[lapis turret]

How do you make that

Can I change the values and will it auto generate

[cerulean jewel]

Yes

Sheets have math functions so basically it adds the moon name with the weight and lists them

[lapis turret]

When I looked at the things to copy it did not say which goes to which interior

[cerulean jewel]

You have to check the column

Each interior is named at the top

[lapis turret]

How do you change the vanilla interior

[cerulean jewel]

You dont

[lapis turret]

There is no config for that

[cerulean jewel]

No way to edit vanilla values

[lapis turret]

Oh

[cerulean jewel]

You just gotta outweigh them

[minor raptor]

you can edit it with LLL can't you

[halcyon ermine]

LECore is slacking

[cerulean jewel]

If u can thats cool, but I don't care enough to get into that, plus would be hard to generate a setting for that

[minor raptor]

fair enough

[minor raptor]

i agree :(

[lapis turret]

I can’t download it

[cerulean jewel]

?

[lapis turret]

Nvm I got it

[lapis turret]

I have to download it to edit

Or make a copy

[cerulean jewel]

Make a copy to edit it for yourself

[rose roost]

@cerulean jewel thank you for the meal you cooked 🙏 hella spicy

[cerulean jewel]

I am a Great Great Asset

Im so glad people like my balancing

Took me