Lethal Resonance

[fresh steeple]

first time

[upbeat hound]

Cause the spider sounds are not vanilla (With the exception of the spider walking sound)

but the rest is different

[fresh steeple]

so you guys did revamp the spider, cause the spider sounds are booty

the vanilla one

havent tried ur guyses version yet

[upbeat hound]

I'm pretty sure we did

yeah we did cause I remember reducing some of the clip volumes for it recently

[fresh steeple]

alr bet will check it out sometime later

[fresh steeple]

nice, yea the vanilla ones were loud and unapleasing

[upbeat hound]

Hmmmmmm

[upbeat hound]

v4.0.8

• Made being haunted a terrible experience (Little girl rework 24 Sounds)
• added new contact method to readme incase channel link doesn't work with discord
• Added lots of variance since haunting deserved special treatment (The normal 6ish sounds have on average 4 variants each)

This is going to be a particularly rough update for yall Stg

[quartz compass]

https://tenor.com/view/muhahaha-muhaa-evil-evil-laugh-duck-gif-18128094925251931977

[upbeat hound]

Let me know what you think, the girl now has ones that fit at that, makes haunting more… personal

[quartz compass]

will she roast my life and dreams ?

[upbeat hound]

Who knows🤷🏻‍♂️

[small pond]

i will >:3

[upbeat hound]

Very true, she can burn with you and everything else in the faculty💀

[icy palm]

do we have a mod that uses a different ghost girl asset

oh wait. i was supposed to ask this on the modding general

[ruby saffron]

morox update i see

[upbeat hound]

To some extent

[brisk wren]

are you ai

[upbeat hound]

lmao no

[brisk wren]

ok chatgpt

[ruby saffron]

The problem is that I don't know if it's something new or something I've already tested

Crying in betatester

[upbeat hound]

its all different/the same, but since you were testing to give you some clarity. The base sounds you tested are still the core of the update. They are just all very modified and volume tuned. The breathing.ogg is new to you since I put that together. The reverb is done through a new method that includes feedback as well. all in all basically it took me around 4 hours to process the base sounds moroxide gave me

[ruby saffron]

me like 2 minutes of process to say scary

[upbeat hound]

hey well its helpful to me🤷🏻‍♂️

[ruby saffron]

@upbeat hound we need more variations !!!

in the scan sound!

[upbeat hound]

ugh, yes yes I know, Ive been putting it off

Will do, its on the list I swear

[ruby saffron]

i was thinking you can put a sound with like 0.5% in the scan

and that scan sound like a broken scanner

[upbeat hound]

scan sound scan sound Scan sound "uwu" scan sound

[zealous plank]

is there a way i can easily see what those ghost girl sounds are? i'm just hella curious 👀

[upbeat hound]

an unfortunate introduction

[upbeat hound]

yeah hold on

[ruby saffron]

that is not very immersive of you

[upbeat hound]

THATS WHY IT WONT BE THERE

[ruby saffron]

you need to test before say that owo

[ruby saffron]

its like +10mb

[zealous plank]

oh shit that's fire

[upbeat hound]

this update was super interesting because the sounds she makes actually mean something since she only spawns behind you

it was the most involved we've got to be in making a new experience instead of just replacing a sound

The haunting genuinely feels more personal and thats awful in the best way

I was worried it might be cringey, but in game it works surprisingly well

[ruby saffron]

i will making a clip from the in-game

[upbeat hound]

go ahead

also since the breathing.ogg sound progressivelyt gets louder while she laughs when shes skipping at you it sounds like she's getting closer no matter how fast you run

[zealous plank]

wait that's actually a sick design decision

[upbeat hound]

its rare I end up scaring myself with the sound I work on, this one actually did. Also thank you

[upbeat hound]

honestly funny enough, the quiet room your in really dulls down how scary it is when the other sounds are playing around you in a real facility

she sounds very loud in that video, but shes much quieter when surrounded by other sounds

[zealous plank]

thats the test room right

[ruby saffron]

normally i hate sounds cap

[ruby saffron]

yes

[zealous plank]

i'm hella excited to try this mod out tmrw

[upbeat hound]

Oh you haven't tried LR at all?

[zealous plank]

well i've technically run it a couple times while testing modpacks for people in #1200695291972685926

which is how i even discovered LR

[upbeat hound]

have you ran into our facility meltdown fork as well?

[zealous plank]

was wondering where all these audio clips were coming from

oh nope never tried that before, i'll check it out

[upbeat hound]

(I really love that one)

[upbeat hound]

Which clips?

oh like what mod?

[zealous plank]

like everything LOL

i mean isn't that the point of LR anyways, so many sounds are changed

[upbeat hound]

well most of it is custom or taken from something open source then processed through my daw and tested in game until it really fits with the actual game. most of the time we cant quite find the right sound and we have to edit and merge a whole bunch of different clips until it sounds right

Like the breathing.ogg laughing is like 3 laughs then I have like 3 copies of each all edited and pitched differently so it doesnt sound repetitive

[zealous plank]

yeah i just meant like, i was wondering where the sounds for those modpacks came from, and i was pointed towards LR

[upbeat hound]

oh gotcha!

[zealous plank]

during some quick playtests i just really liked all the audio changes

[upbeat hound]

Im glad, speaking of which if you find something that seems weirdly loud it prob is. the pack has only been out for a few weeks so getting volume normalize among other things falls through the cracks sometimes

really helps when you let us know

[zealous plank]

is there a demo i can see for the meltdown fork? or is it best i just discover the changes in game

yep sounds good i'll lyk if i find anything

[upbeat hound]

yeah I have a vid

have you tried facility meltdown normally?

like know what the normal alarm sounds like?

[zealous plank]

nope, tbf i haven't tried that many mods out b4

[upbeat hound]

well if you don't know the original I def recommend experiencing it for yourself with LR meltdown

I would have shown you a vid if you had tried it, but its an experience and its fun

[ruby saffron]

sadly i was not recording and lost a good clip

unu

[upbeat hound]

sad day, were you trying it inside the facility?

[zealous plank]

ah sounds good it'll be interesting to try it out for the first time then

[upbeat hound]

enjoy man

[ruby saffron]

i gonna try that again

[upbeat hound]

what do you think of it actually in the facility?

better right?

[ruby saffron]

YOU NEED TO SEE MY CLIP xd

[zealous plank]

oh ya i saw, it's even cooler in the clip than straight up clicking on the audio files itself

[icy palm]

i thought the update has intro speech now

[upbeat hound]

Hm?

[icy palm]

what mod is that Airplane

[icy palm]

i thought you guys will add new Intro Speech

[upbeat hound]

we would have to find one or make one

[upbeat hound]

what do you think frenky?

[icy palm]

why did it get dark all of a sudden

[ruby saffron]

Diversity

[icy palm]

ah

when no flashlight

[zealous plank]

diversity is fire

[upbeat hound]

diversity pairs very well

[ruby saffron]

normally i was dancing

w

[icy palm]

i wish i can rip out that deprecated mod's intro speech

[upbeat hound]

why dont you just use the other introspeech?

mod

[ruby saffron]

i has a intro speech only for myself

Normally day in frenkys life

[icy palm]

oh. most of them kinda break my game XD

[upbeat hound]

MORE THAN ONE

they all break your game???

[upbeat hound]

as an edm boy this is my favorite intro

[icy palm]

they somewhat touch my player model controls...

[upbeat hound]

thats so so so weird

[ruby saffron]

i like that intro so i put in the permanent configs

put 5 girls in titan not is my best idea

[upbeat hound]

this clip actually gets terrifying

[ruby saffron]

and the timing

when i dead

[upbeat hound]

the lootbug is a paid actor

[ruby saffron]

are you injured, are you dead ?

[icy palm]

is that baddass company for the emotes?

[upbeat hound]

thats toomanyemotes right?

[ruby saffron]

yes

[upbeat hound]

guess not

[icy palm]

i use toomanyemotes and their emote cycle is not that

not sure if they even conflict with each other so i didnt add it

[ruby saffron]

i like badass company for the memes

[upbeat hound]

been making more sounds than playing games lately so🤷🏻‍♂️

[icy palm]

i only play on saturdays. since its my off..

[upbeat hound]

understandable

[icy palm]

i cleaned my files and downloaded everything from scratch to clean all the busted audio left overs from old audio mods like AbyssalAudio

[ruby saffron]

you need to try the new version of my tested modpack

Frenky and terry version

[icy palm]

took me like 6 hours to reconfigure every conflicting mods with one another

[upbeat hound]

moroxides?

[ruby saffron]

yes

[upbeat hound]

hows that going?

[ruby saffron]

i feel sick of dying

[upbeat hound]

I dont talk to him as much as of late, hes been super focused on his pack

[ruby saffron]

so its hard

[upbeat hound]

hope its going well

[ruby saffron]

you need minimun 3 people to play that

[ruby saffron]

YEAH IS SO FCK GOOD

[upbeat hound]

glad to hear it

[ruby saffron]

you want to play with me ?

[upbeat hound]

nope

[ruby saffron]

sad

[upbeat hound]

Not right now specifically

Im getting ready for bed rn

[ruby saffron]

I DONT SAY RN

[icy palm]

how many mods did you guys put in that megaphobia pack

[upbeat hound]

Later tho sure

[ruby saffron]

110- 130 no more than that now

[icy palm]

for now?

[upbeat hound]

that many and its stable?

[icy palm]

lol reminds me of my first profile

now im on 230 tho.

[ruby saffron]

its 95% stable and 5 % under-stable

[upbeat hound]

How many suits tho

thats the real modpack question

[icy palm]

30% are cosmetics.

[ruby saffron]

70% are more cosmetics

[upbeat hound]

so you have like 160ish actual mods?

[icy palm]

more like a lot are dependency XD

LLL, LEcore n the likes

[upbeat hound]

I mean LR with LR Meltdown is like 13 so I feel

[icy palm]

most are just AI stuff

[ruby saffron]

now bracken can stole a shotgun and fire spiders

my brain has 2 ideas at same time and i cant decide

[upbeat hound]

choices are?

[icy palm]

i added every moon and interiors i liked too. added more stuff like that 6 storage drawer and such

[ruby saffron]

EVERY MOON souns like a 20

[upbeat hound]

good moons that fit with lc are tough to find

[ruby saffron]

I love Gratar

the moon gratar

[icy palm]

one thing im trying to figure out is how to make the game somewhat stable when there is now a ton of people

[upbeat hound]

Magic Wesley makes great moons

[ruby saffron]

its like Experimentation 2.0

[icy palm]

i wanted to add that chess mod once someone make the bigger ship with the 2nd floor

[ruby saffron]

Pixel you need to try this one

ITS LEGENDARY

[upbeat hound]

i got souuunnndddsss to makkkeee

[ruby saffron]

you cant make a better sounds without inspiration !!!

[upbeat hound]

lowkey valid actually

[icy palm]

sounds like MJ. he rap his entire music sheet

Michael Jackson

[ruby saffron]

Mary jane

michael jordan

mister james

not thaat is like msj

but msj its like msg

[icy palm]

i still find it funny that Michael Jackson was once sued for stealing music sheet for his songs. and he said he didn even make one. he beatbox his song live at the court was the best

[ruby saffron]

lmao

[icy palm]

sadly we wont be able to hear those stuff since he never wrote them. only stuck in his head and memory

[upbeat hound]

people are such haters. Recently there have been a few individuals here and there that have claimed LR stole certain sounds that I personally created so I get how the man feels. Well to some extent, I didnt have to go to court for it

[icy palm]

you might need to practice beat boxing

[upbeat hound]

fr

[ruby saffron]

imagine some people saying you stole Abissall audio sounds

[upbeat hound]

no not that, that would actually make sense

so far Ive heard someone say LR stole the thumper sounds and someone else say that we stole their music for the main menu which is an absolutely wild statement

[ruby saffron]

WHERE IS THE BELL SOUND IN THE DOORS

[upbeat hound]

hm? still there

[upbeat hound]

(Tbh I kinda panned on removing that eventually tho)

[ruby saffron]

sometimes diversity overrides the sound mb

[upbeat hound]

for the door?

[ruby saffron]

yes

[upbeat hound]

your pfp describes me rn

[ruby saffron]

i have the clips

[upbeat hound]

I want your pfp as an emoji

[ruby saffron]

my partner of crime

[upbeat hound]

LMAO

[ruby saffron]

same face

[upbeat hound]

aqua

just doesnt hit the same

[ruby saffron]

its the same

[icy palm]

did they update the anime yet. havent seen that get updated

[upbeat hound]

I prefer Kazuma's tho

[icy palm]

oh the eyes are different

[ruby saffron]

@upbeat hound

[icy palm]

he squints more. while aqua ddidnt squint that much

[upbeat hound]

the preference is because of how they act in the show not necessarily the eyes

[ruby saffron]

the bell sound

[icy palm]

yeah that too

[upbeat hound]

I heard the doors

bells

[ruby saffron]

me

Literally

[upbeat hound]

the bells are like the least immersive sound in LR

prob

[ruby saffron]

you won't take this away from me

[icy palm]

the first one doesnt have the sound. the 2nd video has the bell very clear

[upbeat hound]

ah I see

[upbeat hound]

maybe youll get another independant mod for the jingly door

liike the scanner all over again

[icy palm]

we getting a metal door opening sound now?

[upbeat hound]

who knows tbh

maybe, but im not working on it atm

[icy palm]

which ones are you working on atm? delivery ship audio?

[upbeat hound]

interior door sounds are prob the most challenging sound in the game

[ruby saffron]

I haven't heard anyone complain about the sound, why you would have to remove it.

[upbeat hound]

rn? nothing I just pushed out the ghost girl sounds

[upbeat hound]

Its not a focus for now dw

[icy palm]

are you guys going to make a LR version of Intro Speech and Delivery Sound?

[icy palm]

lol you still rocking that one

[ruby saffron]

its good to me

[upbeat hound]

Im honestly not sure. We would ahve to custom create a new introspeech track

as far as the delivery ship we arent sure because that sound will conflict with all the other delivery ship sounds

[ruby saffron]

what other delivery ship

[icy palm]

other delivery ship?

[upbeat hound]

like no one has a mod on the modstore for drop soda can sound so that isnt something im worried about

[icy palm]

i never saw them before XD

[ruby saffron]

Pixel you are paranoic

[upbeat hound]

They arent custom original, but they still are popular sound replacement mods, some of them have more downloads than LR

and we're almost to half a million

[ruby saffron]

that mod is not here with us, it cannot harm you

[upbeat hound]

no, but I want people to be able to mix and match mods, compat is important to me

[ruby saffron]

make the flac version

[upbeat hound]

Lethal should be scary and funny imo, but funny is far more subjective and varied than what people find scary

it isnt supported sadly. Daddy flac is off the table

[ruby saffron]

to much powerfull

[upbeat hound]

So Im told

[hallow forum]

Daddy flac huh

[ruby saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-camera-camera-ronaldo-ronaldo-with-camera-gif-9810819212690388964

[ruby saffron]

remember he is audiophile

[hallow forum]

Ic

[upbeat hound]

Flac is peak audio storage format

[ruby saffron]

what about mp3

[upbeat hound]

💀

[ruby saffron]

ahsdhashda

i love these jokes

i cant stop laughing

what is the worst format ?

mp2?

[upbeat hound]

I mean Wav was the BEST but we had to take a hit for everyone’s sake

[ruby saffron]

i asking for the worst

which you would never use?

[upbeat hound]

M4A

[icy palm]

M4A1?

[upbeat hound]

Only because it disgusts me, but mp3 is a very real contender

[upbeat hound]

No no lmao it’s a sound file type

[icy palm]

oh. i thought we gunning somebody

[upbeat hound]

We are, it’s Xu

[ruby saffron]

i only use snipers rifles so i do not use m4a1

or m4a4

[upbeat hound]

I regret answering your audio question 😭

[ruby saffron]

more like

[ruby saffron]

Don't worry, no one usually hates me, not for too long.

[upbeat hound]

This is usually how I feel

[ruby saffron]

same

[molten bolt]

Or wait until Diversity adds its own

[icy palm]

i think i read that somewhere

its only for the intro speech right?

how about delivery music?

[molten bolt]

For my part, I like the original

[brisk wren]

m4a best file type

ai has spoken again

do not listen to lethal resonance

he is ai

[ruby saffron]

@upbeat hound

[brisk wren]

nice federal agent response

[brisk dagger]

jo guys i have a question about the sound modding ill hope someone can help me with it

[coral umbra]

does it play over Diversity's sounds? She talks too on walkies. Or it's standalone plays along with it?

[molten bolt]

Diversity works perfectly with this mod

[molten bolt]

what happened?

[brisk dagger]

nothing bad i have a question about the mods that made as an dll file and regular wav sound files

[brisk dagger]

is that possible to havve multiple sounds for monster that they play them random?

[molten bolt]

yes

[brisk dagger]

for example i have the reverbe fart sound for the landmines it is an dll file i wanted to add the wtf boom sound to it and should work right?

[molten bolt]

One of those two sounds will come out randomly

[brisk dagger]

ok good to know thxx

[ruby saffron]

the % can be changed if i remember

[tame ledge]

not yet*

[brisk dagger]

i am fine with it needed only to know that just works

[ruby saffron]

you can do like, 50 % normal mine 45 % fartsound, 4 % Ultra sound and 1 % of CHAOS

imagine the possibilities

[sick stag]

I hate it too. Everytime I update LR. I delete the turret sounds, and the door bell sound lol

[scenic jewel]

Never heard the turret one tbh, Masa has the TF2 sentry sounds cx

[upbeat hound]

Told you @ruby saffron

[ruby saffron]

Sad

[keen otter]

How do you do this?

[ruby saffron]

Yes

[keen otter]

Great answer, thank you

[coral umbra]

Making sure ^^ used abyssal for awhile with diversity and switch to resonance for some time now. Nice to see ghost getting even more scarier. And ghost codes make it even better!

I liked abyssals jump sounds. Felt like the suits had a lotta weight to them.

Will there be sounds for those soon?

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-2007-entrance-walk-scary-gif-22869973

[upbeat hound]

I’ve been thinking about ideas for this, it’s a very important sound so I’ve been putting it off

[brisk dagger]

ufffff

[sharp ember]

i personally wasn't rly a fan of abyssal's jump sounds

[tame ledge]

quick question, is it necessary to keep original audio length for each sound when making a mod to change sounds?

[upbeat hound]

Nope, it can longer/shorter

[upbeat hound]

With the most respect possible, the mine beep sound and jump sound from abyssal was the REASON I made LR💀😭

[sharp ember]

:doomed:

[upbeat hound]

I’ll keep in mind the turret one btw

[hallow forum]

Wow I'm telling on you

[upbeat hound]

He knows lmao

[hallow forum]

I like the turret sounds :<

[upbeat hound]

They bother me, they don’t need to be completely changed tho. I just want the sound to be a little more full and a little less shrill

I don’t really plan to get to it in the short term anyways tho

[sick stag]

i like the mine sounds.

[upbeat hound]

The fire alarm out of batteries sound?

I think they changed it pretty quick, but that’s what it was when I installed abyssal

[sick stag]

I mean the LR mine sounds,

[upbeat hound]

Oh yeah, well I b like LR’s sounds obviously lol

There might be a few here and there though from combining with abyssal audio that I don’t love

I’m not sure what they are off the top of my head tho

[upbeat hound]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AmesBoys/ReverbRemoval/ @still mural I figure this was prob made due to your request, but on the off chance you havent seen it\

[still mural]

Yes sure thing! I already thanked the modder and my friend is already using it and she found it super super convenient already

[upbeat hound]

awesome, glad to hear it!

[still mural]

By the way, me and my friends are using the Lethal Resonance sound mod and while being outside we hear sometimes big banging sound and I was wondering which file it is because we really doesn't like it much
But other than that all the rest of the sounds are amazing

[upbeat hound]

banging sound outside??

[upbeat hound]

like in the ship?

[still mural]

Nope on the planet itself

[upbeat hound]

?_?

[still mural]

it's not inside the factory, it's not on the ship

[upbeat hound]

Ohhhhh

[still mural]

it's like a big banging sound like someone knocking or walking heavily something like that

[upbeat hound]

if you could get a clip or something or descrivbe the sound maybe I could look into it

hmmmm

[still mural]

ehhh i'll try this

[upbeat hound]

Off top I cant think of which one, I mean there are like 390 sounds rn'

[still mural]

Yeah i will think to record it

but it's not happening a lot just randomly and one of my friend thought it was someone knocking on their door and scared the shit out of them haha

[upbeat hound]

oh, in that case

you're welcome💀

[grim raven]

https://youtu.be/ttgQqiv72AY?si=uSh0uOM5ZQSdLbWn&t=85

[upbeat hound]

?\

[grim raven]

fun ghost sound design, i like it

[upbeat hound]

have you tried it out?

[grim raven]

https://tenor.com/view/luigis-mansion-beta-basher-e3-2001-gif-19099411

reminds me of this game

no i only watched the video i tagged with the music

[upbeat hound]

its a lot better once on a real interior. The test room is weirdly quiet

once you do though come tell me what you tihnk

[grim raven]

👌

[hallow forum]

@upbeat hound not sure if it was me but I did recommend psycho to check out the mod like a week back and he said he might lol

[upbeat hound]

Appreciate you 😩

[fresh steeple]

Will it be compatible with diversity 2.0

[upbeat hound]

cant imagine it wont be, However I havent even tried diversity 2.0

There's nothing ive heard about that would possibly conlfict tho

[ruby saffron]

I know

[ruby saffron]

like a 2 things, no much trouble

[upbeat hound]

what two things?

[zealous plank]

just tried LR today, love all the audio changes

[upbeat hound]

Im glad you like it! Don't forget to like us on the thunderstore! any feedback for us or ideas of what sound should be replaced next?

[zealous plank]

didn't notice any issues at all, and yep i already liked it thunderstore

i'm already enjoying all the changes compared to the vanilla sounds, don't really have any feedback 😛

[upbeat hound]

awesome!

[molten bolt]

That's great to hear that!
For anyone interested...
@upbeat hound Made all the object sounds, doors, some ambience and tweaks of some vanilla and sounds made by me (and the Jester)
@molten bolt Made all the sounds related to creatues, Bracken, Crawler, Spider, CoilHead, Eyeless Dog and recently Little Girl, also helped with some ambience sounds
and @ocean falcon Made all the music you hear, the menu, start/mid/late day and some extra music ambience

[ruby saffron]

yes

[upbeat hound]

Anyone tried the ghost girl out yet?

Naturally I mean, not in a test room

[tired vale]

man I thought it was InsanityRemastered but I ditched that and it still pops up -- I don't think it's from LR either though? But I frequently get a "Help me" whispered voice clip in interiors and I swear it plays like a dozen times on every outing.

[upbeat hound]

Everything moroxide listed is mostly correct in terms of who found/chopped/created the base audio with a few minor tweaks on my side. Which include most ambience (opposed to some) the puffer (sounds that aren’t vanilla) the forest giant, earthworm(I believe). Then usually I spend a few a few hours cleaning/tuning/and adding effects in ableton to clips assembled by moroxide for creatures each time we have a creature rework. Ultimately we make a lot of stuff together and couldn’t bring the mod to this level of quality without working together. Everything cama is listed for is correct as is

[upbeat hound]

I’m pretty sure it’s from LR

BUT, I think you just need to reinstall it

Since we took the voicelines out without replacing them it’s likely you have them still as “residue” from before we removed them

[tired vale]

I'll give that a go, I am a manual install goblin so it's generally overwrite city for me. I'm still sat on earlier meltdown version or else I'd grab the LR Meltdown, I didn't want to have to mess with having multiple tracks depending on interior / exterior / ship when I already had a few meltdown songs the group likes 😩

[upbeat hound]

In that case you ABSOLUTELY have sound file “residue”

[upbeat hound]

You don’t use the new 3 track meltdown?

Blasphemy

[tired vale]

We've got like five tracks we like for meltdown, but they're still keyed off of how it originally ran the tracks and the group would be ornery with me if they lost out on those

[tired vale]

I did however make sure to grab the lost scanner after doing a clean sweep of the directory with a fresh install, as that's one of the sounds I've had people in the group specifically point out liking with the new LR sounds

[upbeat hound]

I’m just joking, to each their own, BUT I really do love the outside and inside the ship alarm tracks and especially the transition between them, they’re soft and have sounds change their EQ’s based on what the sound would have to travel to

[upbeat hound]

The lost scanner sound is actually not as popular as I expected when I put it on the store

I was planning to add some pitched versions so it’s slightly different each time you scan

[tired vale]

I've previewed them in the LR meltdown pack and they're really impressive, if it weren't such an ordeal to try to refit I'd try to convert the other tracks they like to run alongside them or something. As for the popularity I think thunderstore has a real hard time with discoverability in general.

[upbeat hound]

Instead of the exact same sound every time

[upbeat hound]

Very true

[tired vale]

I sort by last updated and am a weirdo about scouring the lists but I would presume the majority of people slam-pick 'top rated' or 'most downloaded' and never look deeper than two pages

[coral umbra]

@upbeat hound it's pretty good. I've got diversity/ghostcodes/insanityremastered as well and they're kicking my butt. My friends experience the same stuff too so it's great!

[arctic crown]

The little girl usually stalks you for ~30 seconds before it walks off on its own, so I would recommend making the breathing sound far longer. On another note the heartbeat and whispering also won't be well audible since the sound originates from the girl, so I would put those on "BellChimeAmbience" instead
And if you have already done the masked make sure it has it's own Laugh() tracks in a folder called ComedyMask,ComedyMask(Clone),TragedyMask,TragedyMask(Clone)-AS, because both use them

Otherwise, terrifying, nicely done

[upbeat hound]

Oh damn that works together great!

[upbeat hound]

So basically swap bell chime ambiance and breathing?

[upbeat hound]

We haven’t done masked yet either as it seems a little more complicated especially considering the last piece of advice you gave

[arctic crown]

Keep the laughing on breathing, move the heartbeat to the ambience track and maybe make it go up and down randomly in volume over time instead

[coral umbra]

hmm, i run mirage/skinwalker for the masked guys. But I would like to see what sounds would be for them tho. Good work!

[arctic crown]

That last bit of advice is the only confliction I've found in testing, everything else is separated and you can find in my guide

[upbeat hound]

What mod do you make btw? I never asked

You seem to know a TON

[arctic crown]

I don't remember if I ever posted the newer version... Do you have the one where the mob sounds have their own category?
(referencing the message above about the guide^^)

• Memetastic, I've spent an unholy amount of time ingame just testing things

[upbeat hound]

I don’t think I do

[arctic crown]

Here then, someone asked me to separate the monster sounds so I did

[upbeat hound]

?

Am I just confused?😭

[upbeat hound]

Thank you!

[arctic crown]

its in asset replacements, I apparently cant remove it from that category after adding it there

[upbeat hound]

That is an absolute tragedy

[upbeat hound]

477 sounds???? Damn dedication

[arctic crown]

Do not make the same mistake, being pulled off the front page is not worth the accuracy

[upbeat hound]

I already did actually

[arctic crown]

I could help you guys develop this one, I really like the work you've been doing but some of the sounds could use volume rebalancing/cleanup

[upbeat hound]

Next time I uploaded I just didn’t click asset replacement and it moved me back to the mods section

[arctic crown]

I haven't added asset replacement to it again... The hell?

[upbeat hound]

Yeah I know, Moroxide and I have been trying to find which sounds need volume balancing. Most of the problem comes from when the pack started I pumped a lot of sounds out REALLY fast and now we have to go back and fix them :S

But it’s hard to pinpoint because the way this game handles sound is a mess tbh

[arctic crown]

I hope you have the sources saved? My current pipeline is keeping everything isolated in an audacity save file and then combining them during export

[upbeat hound]

This is my biggest flaw ;-;

[arctic crown]

The volume control is done entirely in the files themselves, have you just been winging it? 💀

[upbeat hound]

Hm? No I mean some sounds sound good raw then I put the file in and it sounds totally different in game

Had this problem with the dog awhile back

[arctic crown]

in terms of pitch? Other than that all the volume control is directly proportional to how loud it is in the file itself

[upbeat hound]

It should be yes

But this isn’t what has been being reported or my experience

Most sounds work exactly like that

But some sounds unfortunately have not and are weird

[arctic crown]

Haven't encountered any of that personally, jetpack is close having to be slightly louder than vanilla file to sound right

[arctic crown]

I say loud here because the first time I tried the pack I got my ears blown out by a thumper

[upbeat hound]

Yeah, most of the stuff does fine, but when I run into one of those issues it’s definitely frustrating

[upbeat hound]

Yepppppp I had an issue awhile back Where my daw was showing me sound levels then it would be different after export

[arctic crown]

daw?

[upbeat hound]

It’s not a capacity issue, more so just need to find which files

[upbeat hound]

Digital audio workstation

Personally I use ableton to make sounds

[arctic crown]

The ambience sounds for example, they're very loud. You can even see it if I put them next to vanilla (yes the vanilla sound is actually there, it's just so quiet you can barely see it without zooming in)

It's mostly the insane amount of bass on the sound (both are zoomed in by the same amount here)

[upbeat hound]

This was the daw exportation issue I had in mention💀 😭

[arctic crown]

daw added 12 DB of bass to it? lol

[small pond]

woah almost 100k on lr meltdown

[icy palm]

it truly is Meltdown

[arctic crown]

Pulling this up in specto view you can see how crazy the bass is
(brightness is amplitude, height is frequency)

[icy palm]

its Radioactive audio lol

[upbeat hound]

MWAHAHAHA

[icy palm]

should we call this the Bombing of Pixelatedpulse?

[upbeat hound]

this is unironically what happened

[arctic crown]

the bass bombing of 2024

[upbeat hound]

my saturator and EQ together applied post ppreview ;-;

I mean everyone here knows about the "bass door" right?

[arctic crown]

oh god it wasnt just me

[small pond]

what about the key incident

[upbeat hound]

ill fix it eventualy I swear

[upbeat hound]

that was intentional

[upbeat hound]

Yes SIRRRR

[arctic crown]

[upbeat hound]

what is this?

[arctic crown]

Door sound

[upbeat hound]

oh yeahhhhh

oopsies

[arctic crown]

I thought I was going crazy but no

[upbeat hound]

no no I almost died goiing into the facility after this update

scared the F*** out of me

[icy palm]

i think i didnt hear that one

[upbeat hound]

but not in the way I want horror to be

[arctic crown]

oh actually the vanilla is the same... am I looking at the wrong door?

[icy palm]

you have a copy of that?

[upbeat hound]

Funny enough if you dont have high end speakers or sound systems the Bass door will just sound quiet

LMAO the bass door is the entrance sound

not the interior door

[icy palm]

im using razer nari for my headset. i should be able to pickup every sound

[upbeat hound]

oh how unexpected

and you didnt notice one of the enter facility door sounds where it sounds like you're baptized by bass

[icy palm]

even that Bruh sound on an anime where they used it for special boom effects i can hear it

[upbeat hound]

How strange

[icy palm]

what version was the door? latest?

[gentle pilot]

[upbeat hound]

yes its still present

[arctic crown]

Yes, yes I was

[icy palm]

i havent tested it

[upbeat hound]

THERE IT IS

[icy palm]

ill it later tonight

[upbeat hound]

Im sure thats the one

✨ BASS✨

[icy palm]

oh that

[upbeat hound]

yep thats the BASS baptisim

[icy palm]

yeah it was kinda loud

without the bells it might be kinda fitting with the metal doors

[upbeat hound]

Ill fix it eventually I swear

[arctic crown]

Nah, that would be this one

[upbeat hound]

yeah still deciding on the bells thing

[upbeat hound]

But I LOVE this one

[icy palm]

just have the bells as a separate thing like that scanner

Forgotten Bells

[upbeat hound]

lmao I cant do that

[icy palm]

or something

[upbeat hound]

I doubt the demand on that will be high

[icy palm]

i mean if someone wants it.

[upbeat hound]

and forgotten scanner is its own thing FOrgotten bells doesnt sound cool

[gentle pilot]

The bells were lame

[upbeat hound]

If you havent noticed by the names and posters I like "cool" stuff

[upbeat hound]

I GET IT

[icy palm]

i just said that as a template really

[gentle pilot]

💜

[arctic crown]

My headphones have this problem where with enough bass something inside that is loose starts making clicking noises. It happens very rarely, usually only with loud heavy bass... and its going ham with this one

[small pond]

rename the scanner mod to directors cut

[gentle pilot]

happy valenti- oh shit nvm

[upbeat hound]

This will likely happen in the future

[icy palm]

l'entrée?

[upbeat hound]

But a config would be preferable😭

Xu made a foundation for a config

we just need to finish it

[small pond]

just code it(TM)

[icy palm]

just's call the bells as Xu's Entrance

[upbeat hound]

I DONT KNOW C#

[arctic crown]

You can sorta make a config already

[upbeat hound]

hm?

[midnight pewter]

@upbeat houndthese coilheads want my ass i swear and its always so damn terrifying

[upbeat hound]

I havent seen this interior before

[arctic crown]

[icy palm]

what room is that

[midnight pewter]

its the poolrooms interior

[upbeat hound]

okay I GUESS but its crazy how lazy everyone is

[midnight pewter]

and yes, its very new

[icy palm]

oh havent saw that interior yet

[midnight pewter]

its released like 2 days ago

or was it 5

[icy palm]

link?

[midnight pewter]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/skidz/PoolRooms/

[icy palm]

tnx

[arctic crown]

if theyre too lazy to open a folder and move some sounds around, theyre too lazy to find the right config and move some text around

[upbeat hound]

oh I saw some pics of that looks cool

[upbeat hound]

well the real issue is for modpack creators

it wont stay in those folders when distributed

[midnight pewter]

on the topic of the poolrooms, it actually has feet-height water inside, and it sounds like shit, soooooo

[upbeat hound]

yoooo its brand new, LR was mid on first update

[arctic crown]

Yeah that makes sense
Up to clem and n00b I guess

[upbeat hound]

Clem said hes working on a volume config

which would be a GODSEND

[midnight pewter]

ooooo

[arctic crown]

Also you should check your organisation/naming, there's many sounds that are messed up (This isn't supposed to be here, and it has a typo)

Wrong name and another case of bass bombing

What is even going on in this sound?

[midnight pewter]

i believe this is the web sounds?

[arctic crown]

I think its supposed to be when the spider is turning someone into a cocoon, but its got crazy stereo separation and bass

[upbeat hound]

yeah that was intentional as well

BUT

I had thought the sound was for the person being wrapped when I made it

however it seems that was not the case, so that needs to be redone at some point

[upbeat hound]

yeah we released a "master audio list" in the delvelopmental resources thread

its all organized, so we have the ability to, we just have to restructure when we have the motivation to do so

[arctic crown]

is that for Lethal resonance only? Ill put my list in there if it isnt

[upbeat hound]

No its an organization of all vanilla files

that morxoide and I put together for other people working on sound pack stuff to make things easier

[arctic crown]

Feel free to throw this in there if you havent already

[upbeat hound]

I will throw that in later, I didnt do so thus far since I wasnt done by moroxide or I

[neat cloak]

this happened to me with a hair that had somehow got pushed through the speaker foam and was sitting on the speaker itself lmao

luckily it was sticking out so I just pulled it out

[arctic crown]

Thanks for fixing my headphones lmao

[neat cloak]

It happened with my $500 headphones and I was SO MAD lmfao

the relief I felt when I realized it wasnt defective or broken or something

[arctic crown]

in hindsight it makes sense, but man I would never have thought of that

[molten bolt]

Hello!

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/hamon-jojos-bizarre-adventure-power-stance-pose-gif-17841463

I have not slept for 32 hours

I love bug testing

Modpack configuring

And video recording and editing

[molten bolt]

Do you also make a modpack?

I'm making one too

cool

[gentle pilot]

Not for Public consumption,

Because A. Idk how to do that shit, B. Maintaining it would be a lot of work C. Idk what my modpack could offer that others can’t

[ruby saffron]

You need the to use the factor i dont care off the others opinion maybe, that can help you to do what you want over anything

[arctic crown]

the factor?

[gentle pilot]

I don’t know if it’s the sleep deprivation hitting or I really actually don’t know what they tried to say to me

[arctic crown]

nah i had a small scale stroke reading that too

[gentle pilot]

I think they were trying to tell me that if I get rid of the attitude of “i don’t care, what would be the point of my modpack compared to others” then I would be able to make a modpack of my own?

Idk I’m past expired

[arctic crown]

that makes sense yeah

[ruby saffron]

close

language barrier

[arctic crown]

self doubt?

[ruby saffron]

i trying to say, if you do what you most want over the others opinion your modpack is gonna be better because everyone has sames ideas but your concep can be unique

nah is hard to explain

Factor, concept, that way, your way etc

[gentle pilot]

I understand what you’re saying

My main thing is I would need to learn a lot more about actually organizing and uploading my modpack

[arctic crown]

theres probably a guide for uploading modpacks on the other LC discord

[ruby saffron]

the hardest thing is the compatibility between mods

imagine one mod update and modpack implodes

[gentle pilot]

Yes but im a perfectionist, i would want to do a lot of custom things for that

[arctic crown]

Theres only so much you can do with something as simple as a modpack

[gentle pilot]

I would stress over the icon, the organization of the mods, presets for different play styles, balancing, cosmetics and suits

All of this is what Clark and TMLC have been able to do and it’s nice

[marsh bloom]

just to know, is there a way to revert the dog’s scream reduction by 50% that the mod make ? I don’t really like that change

[molten bolt]

The volume or just delete the new dog sounds?

[marsh bloom]

By deleting the dog sounds in lethal resonance it will change the volume value back to normal?

[molten bolt]

If you delete it, the sounds will return to vanilla

[upbeat hound]

People say it’s too loud and now people say it’s too quiet 😭 question is did we lower it too far?

[ruby saffron]

you need make polls

[oblique stream]

Good music 👍

[midnight pewter]

@upbeat houndthis time the coilhead didnt even sneak up on me, it just heard me talking shit and decided its time

[upbeat hound]

Tbh the polls always end up opposite than public opinion

[upbeat hound]

Appreciate you! If you like the music check out LunarCama on SoundCloud, he is responsible for the music : )

[oblique stream]

check dms ❤️

[still mural]

The sounds "BumpOutsideShip3.ogg" and "BumpOutsideShip5.ogg" seem to random play while being landed on the planets and outside of the ship, though
These were the "Banging sounds" and "Knocking sounds" on metal heard by me and my friends, is that a normal behavior?

[upbeat hound]

Should be ship ambiance

You shouldn’t hear ship ambiance outside of the ship, if you are it is likely either a mod conflict or an issue with customsounds/lcsoundtools our dependencies

[zenith bison]

@upbeat hound It works now

i think the update fixed it lol

[upbeat hound]

How strange

Well enjoy it! I’m very proud of meltdown

[still mural]

Also we get a lot of 'some players randomly stops from hearing one another' thing, is that something you know where it's coming from? It was happening already before using Lethal Resonance though

It's fixed by disconnect reconnect but it's annoying and it's always the same players

[upbeat hound]

Like suddenly can’t hear each others voices?

[still mural]

One hear another only in the ship and not outside

[upbeat hound]

Oh I see, yeah I’ve ran into this issue with and without LR installed. I actually think it’s a vanilla bug

[still mural]

Aarrh it's annoying af.. Alright

[upbeat hound]

Fr

[still mural]

Did it happen to you with more than 4 players?

[upbeat hound]

I usually only play with 4 players total

[still mural]

I suppose that since the game isn't " "supposed" " to be player with more than 4 players

[upbeat hound]

Can’t speak to that

[still mural]

Well okay it's not that then

[upbeat hound]

It could be making it more likely though

[still mural]

Sometimes we are 4 - 5 - 6

so yeah

[upbeat hound]

What lobby mod do you use?

[still mural]

Advanced Company

[upbeat hound]

Well sadly that’s the best we got rn to my knowledge

[still mural]

Yep, thank you for the intel though

[upbeat hound]

Np

[still mural]

I love the way that we can sometimes hear a rock or something hitting the ship, it's a real thing from Lethal Resonance, right?

[hallow forum]

Lethal resonance doesn't add audio

[still mural]

Oh.

[hallow forum]

But maybe one of the changed audios just has that as ambience

[upbeat hound]

Yeah, the sounds were vanilla, but we modified the sound to be a bit more noticeable and “rocky “

[still mural]

Never noticed it before, I wish it could be heard more often though haha but that's just me

[upbeat hound]

Technically, we don’t add audio trigger points no, but we do “add” variety

For example the ghost girl has about 6 sounds normally and after our last update now she can make 24

However only in the same contexts as the original 6

[still mural]

Yeah these are like pitch variations and things like that, right?

[upbeat hound]

Or just completely different sounds

[still mural]

Oh alright

[upbeat hound]

U#staying the ghost girl example she may say one of 4 entirely different things

Or say a variation/ say it differently

[upbeat hound]

For each sound

[still mural]

Cool stuff, glad that it is possible to make this happen

[upbeat hound]

Us too, have you tried the ghost girl since the update?

[still mural]

Nope I did not, I haven't had the time to do much testing lately

And we did not encounter her yet again

Gladly

[upbeat hound]

I’m very VERY happy with how it turned out in game, let me know what you think once you do

[still mural]

Feeling like we are gonna shit our pants because of y'all, but sure i'll do note this

[upbeat hound]

Well, one of you. It has applicable voicelines which is def a first

If she says she’s behind you, she IS

Last sound that unsettled me like that is the vent sound

Which I still love to this day

[still mural]

Like the vent sound when mobs are spawning, right? or you talking abt something else

[upbeat hound]

When you can hear them banging around in the vents before they actually come out of the vents

[still mural]

Oh lord yes

I was like when did they add mobs traveling into vents and creeped out and then remembered that it's all in my head

until it isn't in my head anymore and the mob is in front of me

[molten bolt]

Hmm... I'm hearing the bridge sounds on the ship

[upbeat hound]

welp thats not supposed to happen💀

[ruby saffron]

i ilke that sound

[sage axle]

Is the sound on the landmines supposed to be the vanilla sound?

[upbeat hound]

Its not vanilla, but its very close to vanilla (At least it should be)

[sage axle]

Ok then my game isn't dumb. Just wanted to make sure since I thought I saw a clip with this mod and the landmine sounded very different

[upbeat hound]

Oh wait

I meant the minebeep sound was close to vanilla

[ruby saffron]

i like more the keysound

[ruby saffron]

My favorite

[upbeat hound]

That scared me

[ruby saffron]

Pixel scares Pixel

[sage axle]

I'm starting to think I'm imagining things. I can't find the clip that I thought had a different mine sound

[upbeat hound]

well I made that as a joke and forgot about that key sound and my volume was maxxed

[ruby saffron]

in-game sounds are different

[ruby saffron]

it was your fault, you never keep the volume maxxed or you can Die in hifi meaning idk i was explaining

[icy palm]

the double take tho

[tame ledge]

i kinda wanna make a mod that replaces most sounds by minecraft sounds

[zenith bison]

@upbeat hound would LR meltdown work with already a custom meltdown music such as DOORS meltdown?

also what does LR meltdown sound like

[tame ledge]

but i'm just not going to

[upbeat hound]

link?

[zenith bison]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Mari0no1/DoorsEscapeMusic/

[upbeat hound]

Try it out! but a short synopsis is that LR Meltdown is a little different than all of the other escape music mods. It has 3 separate audio tracks all designed around each other and it switches tracks depending on if you are inside, outside, or in the ship

[upbeat hound]

These mods would conflict sadly

(LR MELTDOWN and Doors escape)

[sage axle]

the description says it supports facility meltdown so I'd assume you wouldn't need lethalresonancemeltdown to make it work

[fresh steeple]

it adds new sounds for ghost girl, thats why i was asking

let me as morxide cause i saw he tried 2.0

@molten bolt ?
Also sorry for the ping

[molten bolt]

Wat

[arctic crown]

if daw is giving you this many problems just change to audacity or some other one

[upbeat hound]

not having an issue anymore, it was an old problem, besides ableton is by far my favorite

[pallid shard]

Is there any possible way to disable some sounds?

[upbeat hound]

Yep! just open up the folder its in and delete the sounds you dont like

Can I ask which sounds caused you to ask?

[pallid shard]

Specifically nutcracker march that plays when it chases and jester since it conflicts with 2 mods I have downloaded

jester windup

[upbeat hound]

yep you can just delete both of the folders that say nuitcracker and jester or open them to get more detailed control to delete sounds that sopecifcally conflict

[pallid shard]

cool thank you

[fresh steeple]

Will lr be compatible with diversity 2.0?

[molten bolt]

It should be

[pallid shard]

Whoever composed the menu music did an amazing job it sounds amazing

[small pond]

@upbeat hound @molten bolt is lcsoundtool/customsounds still causing you guys issues? cause im somewhat burned out on meltdown but not on modding (the worst combination) and looking at it, it would seem i could make a version with more options for you. i just wanna see if this is something you guys want instead of me spending time making it and it doesnt even help

[upbeat hound]

BONGO YOU ABSOLUTE LEGEND IF YOU DO I'LL LOVE YOU FOREVER

[small pond]

im not sure on the exact specifics yet but i'd want it to be a lot more customisable, something like

{
  "condition": {
    "type": "config",
    "config": "ReplacePlayerSounds"
  },
  "replacements": {
    "player_jump": {
      "sounds": [
        {
          "replacement": "player_jump0",
          "weight": 3
        },
        {
          "replacement": "player_jump1",
          "weight": 3
        }
      ],
      "condition": {
        "type": "someotherthing"
      }
    }
  }
}

would be a lot of work to implement but would give you guys a lot of customisation

[upbeat hound]

can you run through this and english it for me

what does weight entail

does it mean what I think👀

CONDITIONS

[small pond]

// so you'd have multiple files for different groups of sounds.
// maybe a 'player_sounds.json' and a 'ghost_girl_sounds.json'
{
  "condition": { // this controls if you'd want ALL sounds in this file active, would be good for a config option
    "type": "config",
    "config": "ReplacePlayerSounds"
  },
  "replacements": { 
    "player_jump": { // name of sound (idk the actual names so youd have to help me on that)
      "sounds": [
        {
          "replacement": "player_jump0", // you'd have dir for sounds so maybe this is in `sounds/player_jump0`
          "weight": 3 // higher weight means higher chance, search up 'weighted randomness' for more
        },
        {
          "replacement": "player/player_jump1", // maybe this sound is under `sounds/player/player_jump1` so you can organize better
          "weight": 1, // lower weight means this is rarer
          "condition": { // so this SPECIFIC sound can only play while on the ship
            "type": "PlayerLocationType",
            "location": "OnShip"
          }
        }
      ],

    }
  }
}

changed it around a bit not totally sure on the syntax

[upbeat hound]

this all makes sense. Ill give some context of the perfect sound replacement dependency mod (That I can think of and you can tell me how feasible it is) Important details include:

1. Not playing the wrong sounds (obv I know but has been an issue)

2. An ingame config to disable/enable sounds that is persistant between launches, but most importantly to choose which sound to use if someone has a conflicting sound mod installed.

3.A volume config that is persistant between launches.

4. The ability to have variations or alternate sounds for one sound (This seems to be covered under what you described as weight)

5. smoother file replacement that is less impactful on startup time(Similar to how LLL launches leagues faster than LE if this is possible)

6. the ability to further shrink the random pool based on conditions such as health, where you're standing, what you're near.(I understand this feature may be too much, but im going all in just incase its easier than I expect).

7. An in game GUI that can display what sounds are currently playing for bug fixing/ development

[hallow forum]

For 7

Reference minecrafts system

It's actually good

[upbeat hound]

Im just curious if this is feasible at all, cause I have no idea what im asking in code lmao

[upbeat hound]

great Idea btw

[hallow forum]

2 and 6 are probably not

I mean 2 is kinda not possible but like

[upbeat hound]

I expected 6 to not be possible🤷🏻‍♂️

[hallow forum]

Just disable a sound to remove incompatibility

Which falls under the other one

[upbeat hound]

I just feel like it would be a better user experience and would enable modpacks more creative freedom

[hallow forum]

If you have like 3+ sounds from different mods you can't choose I don't think

You can just disable

Unless LR is like

Compatible with those other mods

Specifically

[small pond]

1. depends on the implementation i go with but will probably be number one issue
2. it would probably be dependent on lethalconfig/lethalsettings but i was talking more about bepinex's system
3. yeah pretty feasiable, would you want different "channels" where you can hook one file up to a specific channel so you can have seperate ambience/enemy/etc sliders?
4. yeah it'll pick a random one based on the weight but i could also add a way to randomize the pitch?
5. yeah that'll be an internal thing ill look into
6. ive thought of how the condition system works on the backend and depending on that it could be very easy to add more (+ other mods could add their own)
7. uhhh yeah maybe. probably the lowest priorty though

[upbeat hound]

This was a completely unexpected answer

[small pond]

wdym

[upbeat hound]

I did not expect so many of "feasible"

I for sure thought at least 2 would be a no

[small pond]

well ive been programming for ages and now im pretty good at modding :3

[upbeat hound]

apparently lmao

[small pond]

as always havent fully implemented these but they all seem pretty feasiable

[hallow forum]

Problem with the config

[upbeat hound]

I mean thats awesome to hear. some of these would increase our ability to really change the gameplay experience more than just replacing a sound. most specifically the shrinking randomization pool based on conditions if desired

[hallow forum]

Surely there's a size limit

In text etc

There's like what

[upbeat hound]

I see

[hallow forum]

700 sounds?

[small pond]

which is why i added the condition for the whole file

[upbeat hound]

well I would need it to be able to handle like 1000 most likely

[small pond]

you could group sounds so like "player_sounds", "ghost_girl_sounds"

and then have a config option that disables each of those

[hallow forum]

Yeah that makes sense

[small pond]

disabling each sound indiviually would be unrealistic

[upbeat hound]

would prob be a better user experience as well

[hallow forum]

using System.IO.File;
using System.IO.Path;

// rename this to something better
enum FileChangeResult {
    InvalidPath,
    FileNotFound,
    FailedToMove,
    Success,
}

FileChangeResult RequestedMethod(string filePath, bool shouldPlay)
{
    // version 3 - ok/good error handling
    // this could be changed to just one try/catch
    // but personally I find this a little easier to reason about
    // but all try/catch is bad imo

    string directory, filePathWithoutExtension, extensionIncludingDot;
    try {
        directory = Path.GetDirectoryName(filePath);
        filePathwithoutExtension = Path.GetFileNameWithoutExtension(filePath);
        extensionIncludingDot = Path.GetExtension(filePath);
    } catch (Exception e) { // this is fine
        return FileChangeResult.InvalidPath;
    }

    string originalFilePath = filePathWithoutExtension;
    string finalFilePath = filePathWithoutExtension + "x";
    if (shouldPlay)
    {
        originalFilePath = finalFilePath;
        finalFilePath = filePathWithoutExtension;
    }

    originalFilePath = $"{directory}\\{originalFilePath}{extensionIncludingDot}";
    finalFilePath += $"{directory}\\{finalFilePath}{extensionIncludingDot}";
    // fun fact: File.Exists actually can't fail!
    if (File.Exists(originalFilePath) && !File.Exists(finalFilePath))
    {
        try {
            File.Move(originalFilePath, finalFilePath);
        } catch (Exception e) { // this is fine, as literally 100 things could go wrong here
            return FileChangeResult.FailedToMove;
        }
    }
    return FileChangeResult.Success;
}

I wrote this earlier for disabling sounds since didn't wanna spend ages figuring out a better way to do it

[small pond]

would you want different "channels" where you can hook one file up to a specific channel so you can have seperate ambience/enemy/etc sliders? and way to randomize the pitch?
(copied from my big hunk of text)

[hallow forum]

All it does is just change file name

Given a file name and a bool

[small pond]

catch(Exception e) gigachad

[hallow forum]

Ofc

[upbeat hound]

Im not sure about the pitch randomization as previous trials have shown that just varying the pitch doesn't necessarily feel properly varied and instead feels "cheap" sadly

[hallow forum]

Randomising the pitch then using an easing function wouldn't be a bad idea

[hallow forum]

Hmm icic

[small pond]

wdym easing function? i meant more everytime the sound was played

[small pond]

ahh okay then

[hallow forum]

Sorry, terminology not too good for me, I meant limiting the randomisation to very limited changes in pitch

[small pond]

yeah itd be a min/max system

[upbeat hound]

I seriously wish it was that easy, sure there are a few sounds I could get away with using that, but on the majority it likely will be very noticible

[hallow forum]

It's like the formula that calculates new quota

[upbeat hound]

cause when I change the pitch in ableton that has been my experience

[hallow forum]

Takes old quota etc, has a range between like 1 and 2, then eases it between 1.3 and 1.5 or smthn

[hallow forum]

Icic

[small pond]

shi ight guess ill start working on it

[upbeat hound]

I mean it would be great for sounds that ARENT heard directly after one another

[hallow forum]

One step at a time boy

[upbeat hound]

like if its been 2 minutes since you heard the worm sound it would prob work

but if you hear 5 pitch variations hitting the thunmper itll prob be noticible

[hallow forum]

Main priority is sounds playing without a problem occurring with different sounds

[upbeat hound]

THIS STATEMENT DESERVES A MEDAL

[small pond]

yeah thats why i asked if problems with lcsoundtool/customsounds still existed, all this cool config shit would come second

[hallow forum]

GUI would probably help to make sure that one works too lol

[hallow forum]

Yeah they're not updated often

[upbeat hound]

IF THE SLIME SOUNDS CAN ACTUALLY BE REPLACED WITHOUT THE BUZZING SOUND I WOULD BE SO HAPPY

(And the spider legs)

[small pond]

god custom sounds is a fuckign mess

[hallow forum]

Yep

I'm guessing it's the one that causes a lot of the bugs tbh

[upbeat hound]

I have been talking about LE getting taken over by LLL and saying we needed the sound equiv and now we have bongo

[hallow forum]

Normally it'd be a case of, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but it is broke

[upbeat hound]

cause I need customsounds AND lcsoundtools just to exist which is honestly so strange

[hallow forum]

Also idk if its my game or headphones, but recently sounds cut off occasionally for me

Like for a split second

[small pond]

well this would be customsounds and lcsoundtool in one

because otherwise i wont have enough control

[small pond]

lc max sound fix or whatever its called

[upbeat hound]

I watched a playthrough of LR on a streamer named Insym and I noticed this same issue on occasion

[small pond]

completly solved it for me

[upbeat hound]

thats a dependency for LR tho

[hallow forum]

Nah that's in there, it's probably my headphones tbh

Thinking about it it's happened with other rhythm games

Fks up my rhythm lol

[upbeat hound]

These could have been because I missed fading the sound properly since if there is ANY volume when the clip ends it makes clicking noises

kill me

[hallow forum]

How customisable is the config in these mod managers @small pond

[small pond]

would use bepinex system

cause you can create more config files, so could easily create one for each soundpack

[hallow forum]

That's pretty good

[upbeat hound]

WAIT WHAT is lcsoundstools and customsounds not using BepInEx?

[hallow forum]

Do those even have configs?

[small pond]

maybe for their general settings

[hallow forum]

They use bepinex tho, all mods do afaik

[upbeat hound]

OH WAIT

[small pond]

i mean for your sounds you could create configs

[upbeat hound]

also the sound needs to sync

[small pond]

huh? what

[upbeat hound]

thats like the only setting in LCSoundTools

Syncing over the network

[hallow forum]

Oh yeah that

[upbeat hound]

yeah super important

[hallow forum]

I dont think I even have that enabled if it's not on by default lol

[upbeat hound]

it usually syncs without the experimental sync

[small pond]

is this sarcastic? i aint doing that, i could make it so that a soundpack needs to be installed by everyone but syncing over the network isnt great

[hallow forum]

That's fair lol

[upbeat hound]

well maybe you understand what's necessary better than me. an example though is lets say creak1.ogg has 3 variations and the randomizer picks one of those sounds. so someone says "did you hear that pipe noise?" and the other person heard a different randomized sound from Creak1.ogg such as a whisper

Does that entail network sync?

[small pond]

yeah that would

[upbeat hound]

so then groups are just confused

oh no

[small pond]

i thought you meant like sending the audio files over

[upbeat hound]

OH NO

NONONO

[small pond]

oh well actually, i could just do the zeekers way and sync a random seed over

[hallow forum]

Yeah that's usually the standard too afaik

Fof once zeekers does it right

[upbeat hound]

this crossed my mind as well but I thought that if you werent within distance of a sound it would throw a wrench into the sync

[hallow forum]

For*

[small pond]

main problem would be do all sounds trigger at the sameish time on every client

[small pond]

nah itd be fine

unless the sounds are global

in which case id need to handle that

[hallow forum]

I mean, if I hit someone with a shovel, the sound would have to play for everyone sameish time, no?

[small pond]

yeah he meant more ambient sounds though

[hallow forum]

Yeah true

[upbeat hound]

correct

[upbeat hound]

not that that isnt also important tho

[hallow forum]

Since its all sounds idk if there's differences between how they're handled lol

[small pond]

well just gotta try it and see ig

[hallow forum]

Yep

[small pond]

back to tryna understand how tf this function works

literally like 300 lines of code to load a audiofile this could take a moment

[hallow forum]

LOL

[upbeat hound]

Oh and its gotta support .ogg

and maybe .flac if we're feeling fancy

[small pond]

yeah seems like its handled in this function, might be able to abstract it

(so i can easily add support for many different types)

maybe

[upbeat hound]

thats crazy considering my experience with them telling me it couldnt be done🥲

(.flac specifically)

The sounds quality of a wav in the file size of, well not an ogg, but still smaller than a wav. (Im not sure on this yet tho since I dont know if people would be upset by the significantly larger download if .flac was used)

so I guess Im saying flac is low priority

[small pond]

so .ogg -> .wav -> .mp3 -> ......... maybe flac

[upbeat hound]

well I mean .ogg (Arrow to the right).flac

[hallow forum]

why not just have 2 versions of your mod

a lite

and a full

[upbeat hound]

for everyone else yeah you're prob right, BUT I refuse to ever use .Mp3 its dirty

amd wav is too big since its audio quality is equiv to flac

but I would say other sound modders will use Wav if they are quality driven and mp3 if they just want it to work

or lack some tech knowledge

[small pond]

is there a sound you could give that helps me test that this is all working?

also seems like flac support won't be easy

[upbeat hound]

its not a high priority

[small pond]

aight got loading done, just need to replace it

@upbeat hound can i have a test sound?

[upbeat hound]

here you go BassBaptism

[small pond]

i meant something more immediate i could test 😭

[upbeat hound]

doesnt get more immediate than this

[small pond]

what's it's ingame name?

or is menu1 the default?

@upbeat hound

[upbeat hound]

if I send you a sound its straight from the mod name

so it should line up with its actual name

I think

[small pond]

🙏

attempt 1: forgor to change something
attempt 2: loaded but didn't replace

wait chat i may not be the smartest

chat it works

[hallow forum]

noice

[upbeat hound]

WHAT

ALREADY???

[small pond]

yeah just got a hardcoded value in there

[upbeat hound]

WHAT HAPPENED TO “THIS MIGHT TAKE AWHILE”

[small pond]

i mean this next part will... i need to dynamically fetch it now from your json files

[upbeat hound]

I don’t have any json files😅

What do youuu meeaaannnn

[small pond]

remember those conditions and stuff earlier, i need to fetch it from that

[upbeat hound]

Ahhhhhhh so does this mean I’ll need to make a json?🤔

[small pond]

yes. this will be the longest step on your end, converting everything to the new system

i might be able to make a python script that does this though

[upbeat hound]

👀

[upbeat hound]

Well if I have to I will

[small pond]

got json data loading

[upbeat hound]

Ayeeeee (I know this is a good thing, but I have no idea how good)

[small pond]

json can usually be a big pain

[upbeat hound]

So big good is what I’m hearing

[small pond]

yes

picking up files,

almost ready for you to give it a little bit of a test drive.. just gotta extract a bit more data from these files

[upbeat hound]

Kk

[small pond]

aight really basic version done, one sec

if you could test with specifically sounds that had issues before, also haven't fully gotten around to implementing every audiosource play method so some might not replace correctly

@upbeat hound

should also have basic randomness support if you just add another one into the array

(no weighting yet)

[forest crescent]

hello bongo

could you pls explain what this is

[small pond]

its a new replacement api, users won't really need to worry about this

[forest crescent]

POG so out with LCST??

[small pond]

and customsounds yes

[upbeat hound]

Ummmm I’m not even sure how to test this as the issues were random

[forest crescent]

you're a god my man

[upbeat hound]

Frfr

[small pond]

great... hope that this works

[arctic crown]

This + audiosource and transform name

[forest crescent]

if there's a way to bundle it up on a test mod i can make my friends test it

we'll be running LC games all week prolly

[upbeat hound]

What does this mean

[small pond]

this one is a lot more complicated than customsounds. i've built it from the ground up to give as many options later down the road, and considering nothing is documented yet

[upbeat hound]

BRO YOU JUST STARTED HOW ARE YOU SO FAR

[small pond]

i'm not but just the base is already more complicated

[arctic crown]

[Debug :LCSoundTool] Crawler(Clone) (UnityEngine.AudioSource) at Crawler(Clone) (UnityEngine.Transform) is playing one shot Stomp1

UnityEngine.AudioSource
and
UnityEngine.Transform

for specification if possible?

[small pond]

it's not just working off of filenames anymore

[small pond]

like yeah i'm probably going to change it to "Crawler:Stomp1" in that case

so you can specify exactly what to replace

[forest crescent]

going off Pixel's 7 commandments for a sound replacement mod?

[small pond]

yes

will also let you change off of pizzatowermusic when i eventually release 3.0 meltdown

[upbeat hound]

AND YOU’RE GOING TO REPLACE PIZZATOWERESCAPE TOO IN THE SAME MOD

IS THAT RIGHT?

[small pond]

well yes, because 3.0 meltdown renames the music clip to "MeltdownMusic" so you can replace just the music

[upbeat hound]

Wait will it still support my inside outside and in shop separate tracks

[small pond]

yes with that condition system when i implement it

and i plan to support multiconditions so you can have a track with "InsideFacility" and "LowHealth" stuff like that

[arctic crown]

The more conditions you can do, the better :)

[upbeat hound]

Frfr

[small pond]

well itd be slower

[arctic crown]

I'll definitely test for you

[upbeat hound]

Define slower

Start up time wise?

[small pond]

more memory usage mainly, and startup time

but i plan to do an optimsation where it spreads out the processing during multiple frames when the game starts