LC_Office / LC_Shrimp

[stark forge]

is that an LLL thing??

[worldly veldt]

i dont know if its just me, but ive never found the dungeon when it was set to "all" moons but when i set it to titanlevel i was able to find it there

[stark forge]

@narrow fossil theres an even bigger issue

basically just confirmed that the whole elevator apparatus thing is client sided

i have a clip of it im gonna crop it

[narrow fossil]

either simply a bug or a LethelNetworkAPI issue

[stark forge]

this makes me so sad

[narrow fossil]

there are still too many bugs related to the apparatus

[stark forge]

not really, just that 1 weird sound that plays

and this glitch.

the one big glitch is just the ones with the elevator

[stark forge]

oh and idk if its the API but yeah its gotta get looked at

OH GOD IT GETS WORSE

PIGGY

FOR MY FRIEND ITS OFFICE INTERIOR

FOR ME ITS FACILITY

😱

[grand nimbus]

This is seed desync caused by config probably

You should install ModlistHashChecker to make sure you have the same mods, and ideally share the same profile to make sure all your configs are identical

[stark forge]

is there by any chance a mod that fixes the whole apparatus issue?

[topaz pumice]

facilitymeltdown currently only has a minor issue where the music will restart sometimes but there is no major issues

[hushed cave]

what should i do when the elevator cannot work? Can i plug in a core battery to make it work?

[loud epoch]

If the apparatus has been removed, the elevator will not work unless you plug the apparatus into the elevator.

[loud epoch]

We appreciate you. Your mod is very fun, and I'm always happy to see updates for it. Please do not feel too bad about the bugs. We understand that you are doing the best you can.

[hushed cave]

can i plug apparatus from other moon?

[balmy orchid]

018d9285-3e47-d559-3688-a644b20ab1cd

The generation is beautiful, but the question is, is it just me or does everyone have this problem?

[pallid cedar]

what's the problem?

[balmy orchid]

in general, there are none, the fact that there is no loot on the generation, this is probably the norm, right?

[pallid cedar]

oh so you mean that no loot spawned on that moon. Maybe just a very unlucky RNG. Did this happen only once? Only on this moon? All moons?

[balmy orchid]

I think this is a common occurrence for EXP, for the rest it is more or less better, but still not enough. another mod that increases the cost of the apaaratus, maybe because of it the loot was not added...

[pallid cedar]

No, that's Meltdown. Meltdown sets the apparatus value at 240

You probably have a mod that decreases the amount of scrap

[pallid cedar]

if it happens on more than one moon

otherwise, everything seems normal

[balmy orchid]

The preset settings in AC conflict with LLL and LE. I'm already tired of this....

[deft tapir]

Man Shrimp is a hangry boy

[vapid zinc]

we just had elevator desync

i hosted, placed apparatus into the elevator and was able to ride it up

[unborn bay]

the consumer

[vapid zinc]

but for my friend elevator just closed and he was trapped down there

[unborn bay]

why do you have so many damn slots???

[unreal epoch]

AC probably

grinded

[deft tapir]

I was always getting the desync after the elevator goes down. Everyone can go down but after that it screws up

My crew went different routes, i went carry bag route.

[unreal epoch]

yup, i had that issue too

[hushed cave]

I think thats because of AC. actually i have a lot of desync problem pops up after using AC

[vapid zinc]

not using AC

still desynced

[deft tapir]

Well I mean LC_Office is the only one desyncing lol.

[sacred ibex]

oh nice shrimp at bunker

[deft tapir]

Surprized me too but he does have slight chance to show up.

[hushed cave]

do the desyncing problem keeps continue after u go to other moon?

[sacred ibex]

yeah the modded weight is by default 5

lucky!

[deft tapir]

Only the interior. All moons are fine, all other interiors are fine. Castledungeon, sewer, Scareletmansion, SCPdungeon. They're all fine but LC_Office just has the elevator issue and somewhat scarce loot but thas it.

[hushed cave]

oh, for me I cannot load the Scareletmansion dungeon, thats really confuse me

[deft tapir]

My favorite is when i go to atlantica and LC_office ends up half-way in water but drains when you head down. Neat.

[deft tapir]

Yeah, I only have scarletmansion on Titan, dine, rend, acidir. etc but I had an issue if where if you had the interior twice in a row it'll just softlock. But I can't reproduce it anymore so idk 🤷 Also, that's wierd that you can't load it. Hopefully that fixes. It's a pretty cool interior.

[vapid patio]

using office on a modded moon is very laggy

like minus 30 to 20 fps compared to vanilla facility

all my custom moons that have custom interiors on are pretty laggy for some reason

[crimson berry]

have not had shrimp spawn in for me for a really long time

[stark forge]

of course, you most likely can, theres just no use in doing it unless your saving a teammate thats stuck in the facility with no apparatus, somehow..

[stark forge]

yeah if u scroll up you'll see me sayin smth about this amongst other crazy bugs

i really hope theres no weather desync either

like the servers in the server room were literally missing lol

[narrow fossil]

LC_Office

[tall plinth]

AC really shouldn't be causing desync problems because its really highly tested and is stable. But if there are some kind of issues make sure to talk to PotatoePet. And make 1000% sure that AC is actually the issue, cause often its stuff like this mod and LethalExpansion and BiggerLobbies and WeatherTweaks and whatnot

[craggy sigil]

^

[shrewd dagger]

im not even the AC modder but even im tired hearing people just blaming it on AC lmaoo

[supple sluice]

Did you not know AC breaks EVERYTHING? Nothing else could ever be causing any issues?!! ----- obviously I am joking if no one can sense the level of sarcasm I have right now. xD

[deft tapir]

Yeah he's on 5 for modded moons so it caught me off guard him just wanderin around the bunker. I put LC_Office to 0 on all moons. I've grown tired of the elevator desync because we usually have someone new that messes with the elevator but Shrimp is great to have around every now and then in other interiors. 🔥🦐🔥

[unborn bay]

shrimp ❤️

[sacred ibex]

yay its out of beta

[sweet tinsel]

yippee

[acoustic laurel]

no more beter?

beator

[fallen warren]

Guys

Shrimp can escape???

[craggy sigil]

Shrimp

[unborn bay]

had an EXTREME lag spike when shrimp spotted me at random. i've played with this modpack before and this hasn't happened. only thing that changed was adding lethalcompanyvr, which i had disabled. friend said it was only a little laggy while i had like 2 fps

[zealous topaz]

How usable/finished is this mod currently? is it good to use as is or still not functional for a normal game?

[craggy sigil]

I personally have no major issues with it. It's definitely playable

[zealous topaz]

any major glitches/desync causing things i should avoid doing while using it? i was gonna add it to the modpack im using with friends

[craggy sigil]

I've heard that the Apparatus won't plug into the elevator properly for some people, so if you have Meltdown, maybe don't pull the Apparatus unless you're willing to risk that

And be aware that it's a lot bigger than typical interior mods atm so loot may be spread thin

But otherwise it's perfectly playable and functional

And very cool

[wispy stirrup]

ah alr

cool

[zealous topaz]

cool, thanks

[narrow fossil]

actually there is a bug where scraps are currently spawning less lol

and I'm fixing it now

[fallow shale]

wait this is a really good question lmao

also i love this mod 👍

[deft tapir]

Currently, only the person that throws the apparatus in the elevator may use it. For everyone else it desyncs and stays closed. 🤷

[fallow shale]

i think this happened to me, except host + apparatus guy had the door open, everyone else was stuck inside

* provided this was with facilitymeltdown, don't know if that matters

[deft tapir]

I was thinking of adding that mod to my modpack but i haven't yet. This is with LC_Office by itself

[fallow shale]

with an escape music mod it's pretty peak

[wispy stirrup]

is there a way to change the weight of the interior for specific moons?

i don't see one, unless you can type "moonnameweight" into the config for the moons it can spawn in

[topaz pumice]

oh and meltdown atm will absolutely not hesitate to start multiple meltdowns at once

[craggy sigil]

Really? Huh, that's a new one

Not that it really technically matters since I'm assuming the first one will always end the run regardless

But good to know xD

[topaz pumice]

well yeah it assumes that you cant unplug an apparatus multiple times, and that there will only be one apparatus

[tiny wave]

Assuming is bad

[topaz pumice]

well i think it's a pretty fair assumption

[craggy sigil]

In typical gameplay, gotta agree

[narrow fossil]

[sacred ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-the-company-valuable-asset-landmine-explosion-gif-16895994890991032639

[sweet tinsel]

New centipede looking kinda strange

[fallow shale]

oh so does unplugging from the elevator count?

[acoustic laurel]

Is shrimp mortal?

[tiny wave]

Immortal iirc

[craggy sigil]

Why would you even try to kill shrimp

he a good boi

[wispy stirrup]

CHRISTTTTT

dude i found shrimp

second i did

3fps

it's actually so laggy

they were stuck on a shelf

so i think the game is tryna figure out the pathfinding

aaand now the door is stuck

and now going back down doesn't open the doors

[acoustic laurel]

Is this mod stable for a modpack yet?

[wispy stirrup]

honestly no idea

this is my first time trying it

[acoustic laurel]

its not beta anymore..

I haven't added it to my pack since it was buggy like a month ago

[wispy stirrup]

and this is what's happening to me

[unborn saffron]

I think you're right, it's calling ChooseFarthestNodeFromPosition() every frame, which if the entity is off the navmesh has caused up to 180ms of wasted work iirc

[wispy stirrup]

christttt

[unborn saffron]

it's something that PathfindingLagFix tries to fix in vanilla, though it's less bad there because it only runs it every 200ms

the easiest solution here is to check whether the shrimp is in the navmesh before calling it, but it looks like it's also trying to avoid line of sight which causes lag even when it's on the navmesh

running that every frame if players are blocking the shrimp from moving by looking at him will cause a huge drop in framerate

really what I would recommend is rewriting that function to do something smarter, or just turn it into a coroutine like PathfindingLagFix does

[tiny wave]

I'd wait a week more or so for things to stabilise with LLL and that gang of mods

[wispy stirrup]

wait

[wispy stirrup]

would PathfindingLagFix help with this?

[unborn saffron]

no

[wispy stirrup]

okay makes sense

i have it

[unborn saffron]

PathfindingLagFix has to be tailored to each specific issue

[tiny wave]

Is this similar to the snare flea bug?

[unborn saffron]

yes

[tiny wave]

Makes sense

[unborn saffron]

it's the same function causing it, that function is cursed

especially for enemies that try to avoid line of sight

[wispy stirrup]

yeah i don't like the lag fix mod that deals with that, since it just straight up kills the snare flea

[tiny wave]

Zeekers fixing game breaking bugs wen

[wispy stirrup]

instead of fixing the pathfinding

[tiny wave]

Yeah I often find dead snare fleas randomly lol

[unborn saffron]

PathfindingLagFix also fixes that without killing the snare fleas

[wispy stirrup]

yeah

[unborn saffron]

although killing them could be done in a way that doesn't cause them to fall over as soon as everyone exits the facility

it just has to check if they're on the navmesh

I've thought about adding that as a feature to PathfindingLagFix so that it avoids the log spam but haven't really gotten around to it

[tiny wave]

:p

[wispy stirrup]

i'm just gonna have to disable shrimp for now

sadly

[deft tapir]

@wispy stirrup
I would just turn off the Office interior for other moons

That way you can still keep shrimp, because he works fine on other interiors 🤷 for me he does

[wispy stirrup]

hm

damn

it's either

i remove the office, keep shrimp

or a remove shrimp, keep the office

[deft tapir]

the elevator is still desyncing between players. Sometimes the elevator doesn't go down or up for everyone and even shuts them in when the apparatus is in. Also, piggy knows the issue about the scarce loot as well. The interior can be quite big on free moons and barely any loot.

[wispy stirrup]

hm

yeah

you're right

i did JUST have that bug

it's probably better to just not have the office

i'll keep the lil' guy tho

[novel flame]

or you could just, u know, eat shrimp in the office. That's what I do.
Sorry not helpful. I'd honestly just wait for an update to office because there are other issues as well like huge map generation, missing scrap, elevator desync.

[unborn saffron]

I feel like it could happen on other interiors

but perhaps it's unlikely

[deft tapir]

yeah I wasn't saying it couldn't but I've had no problems.. so far :3

[wispy stirrup]

i think especially on the facility and the mansion it'd be alright

[deft tapir]

just wanted to see him eat the evil spider again in the bunka

[wispy stirrup]

other modded interiors would be

maybe problematic?

[vapid patio]

for me it is

I would reccomend so it only spawns on certain moons tho

[acoustic laurel]

h

[candid finch]

is the bug where if you pull the App and next time you go there the elevator doesnt work fixed by chance?

[fresh mountain]

Is this the mod that has the room that crushes players to death and needs a terminal user to stop?

I'm trying this mod out but I'm a solo player, curious if I'll need to find some workaround for that

[acoustic laurel]

the huh?

I think I've only been in the office twice

[sacred ibex]

the office is the interior that lets you see the normal facility entrance but has only a middle way (sometimes a left or right way wth stairs or a simple ladder way down) with an elevator put elevator music here then after press the down button it drives down and then you get 4 directions in ways you can go

chances are also the power is out right in beginning which is no problem theres dozen of ladders to go up and down

[acoustic laurel]

yeah but idk all the rooms

[sacred ibex]

i could push them down for you

i have played alot..

[acoustic laurel]

There are the hallways, server room, the really long stairs, the elevator t section, the big room that can have the apparatus the roblox symbol room, uhh idk what others

[sacred ibex]

the little storage edge room, the "circle in a sqaure" room uhh theres the right or left way room at the start which has a tv and a table

thats pretty much it

[acoustic laurel]

ah alright

[sacred ibex]

you did good homework there ^^

[acoustic laurel]

the main thing I want is for the weird visual icks to be fixed like some fire escapes not having the light visible, rooms clipping into one another, floating wires, etc

floating vents is really confusing one idek how that happens

[orchid radish]

is office bugging with LLL?

[bold crag]

does this mod have any known incompatibilities that would cause infinite loading?

[acoustic laurel]

not for me

[bold crag]

are you having infinite loading?

[orchid radish]

I didn't test yet

[acoustic laurel]

It could be that the default sizes are min 1 and max 0.1

I changed it to 0.5 to 1.5 in the LLL config

I have noticed that only about half the scrap value that should spawn in the office does spawn

[craggy sigil]

Yeah, if your min is above your max, you fucked up, it will never successfully generate

[bold crag]

does only the host need to change that?

[acoustic laurel]

well I'd think everyone should have the same config unless its a client side mod'

so yes everyone should change it or it may not load for them

[gilded niche]

only the host could put the apparatus in the elevator

when he did, nobody saw it in the elevator

it as like it just disappeared

power did not come on for the elevator

when the host hit the ascend button, very buggy thinsg ensued that are honestly hard toexplain

[worthy magnet]

yeah the elevator is hit or miss

sometimes it syncs and sometimes it bugs

mostly either only the host can move the elevator or the apparatus bugs the door

[hushed cave]

i still dunt know the reason to put the apparatus, without it the elevator still work

[fresh mountain]

Wait doesn't the elevator stop working without power?

[hushed cave]

no, everytime when we arrive the main entrance, the elevator is without apparatus, we just use it goes up and down

[fresh mountain]

But when you pull the apparatus or the breakers are off..

[hushed cave]

oic

[tall plinth]

do you play in groups with this?

[craggy sigil]

I do

Haven't had any issues myself

But admittedly I don't see it often

[tribal holly]

Just tried Office for the first time and encountered a few issues

1. Had a Flask spawn in an unseeable spot in the elevator

2. Had a breaker box spawn really low, and had to crouch to properly use it

3. Second time playing on it after restarting the day (I was just messing around and testing), the elevator didn't spawn and was closed at the bottom

Here's my log:

Had a bunch of diff mods on for testing/messing around so I wouldn't be shockedif one of them caused it lol

also experiencing an issue with my audio starting muted when i spawn in, trying to get to the bottom of that now

[shrewd dagger]

Oohhh yeah lessgoo, tbf a lot of interior mods suffering the same scraps issue, so appreciating you're trying to fix it!

[restive ledge]

for me its working perfectly fine

[loud epoch]

Funny enough, more interiors has the opposite problem, and is spawning too much scrap right now.

[restive ledge]

no lag at all and i played like 8 rounds in it

[restive ledge]

i always get like 300-500 from it

[loud epoch]

It gave me 1000 value scrap on Experimentation consistently.

At least from a scan

[restive ledge]

i play on celestria its like a huge ass moon that has a really long walk between the ship and fire exit and main entrance

[loud epoch]

I never got more than 400 out though

[restive ledge]

and it has a lot of spawns

especially dogs

[shrewd dagger]

yupp have your case too, but then again i haven't played lethal for 3 days now, idk how much has changed tho

[prisma blade]

whats the secondary room for

the one with the tv

[restive ledge]

the ladder i guess

sometimes power is off

but not sure bout the t

tv*

[prisma blade]

tbh it should be more decoration

or

[restive ledge]

maybe the maintence crew (if they exist or did) got bored and stayed there

[prisma blade]

look like a office

cause it kinda looks weird rn

[restive ledge]

maintenence*

[restive ledge]

i think italso makes some noises

i remember hearing something similar to a screech from it

it might've been ambience

[tribal holly]

I wish it worked like the ship TV

I be chillin’ watching Jerma clips while my friends are letting out blood curdling screams begging me for help

[prisma blade]

i wish it looked. better? like it looks like a unfinished part of lethal company

[tribal holly]

That’s the point

[prisma blade]

(it looks too weird)

[balmy orchid]

When meeting with Shrimp, I just got 1-5 fps)

I tried to disable the appearance of this enemy in the AC preset, but it still appears in the console

[hardy mica]

Office buttons don't seem to work.

literally has a screen that says

if u see this, THIS IS AN ERROR!!!

yeah i have this

[pulsar gorge]

Just pulled the greatest escape of all time on this map

Pulled ape plugged it into the elevator and dipped i also heard the fiend meaning he was angry

[restive ledge]

can you read or send the log

that will def help

[hardy mica]

maybe

might disabled skinwalkers if i need to do that though it keeps fucking sending messages that dont let me scroll up

[restive ledge]

i use mirage (i feel like im advertising lol) send me the log after your done

[hardy mica]

woah yeah
im getting a lot of this error

[restive ledge]

i think reverting LLL to 1.0.7 will fix that issue. ive heard the new ones are buggy and the in the dependencies of lc_office it says its the preferred version

also forgot to ask

do you havee LLL 1.0.7

or a newer version

[hardy mica]

newer

[restive ledge]

try reverting

also revert any mod that uses the newer version of LLL

for example: moreinteriors (revert it back to 2.1.0)

and scarlet devil mansion (revert to 1.2.1)

because if you dont they wont load correctly

and say it didn't load when you start the game

[hardy mica]

i only have uhh

moreinteriors

is there a more comprehensive list of mods to revert

i have a lot

[restive ledge]

well LLL works with custom moons and interiors since custom moons dont update a lot

just check the interior one

ones*

thats what i did and a lot of glitches stopped happening

tell me the results

later

[hardy mica]

reverting didnt do anything

same error too

[restive ledge]

ah damn

lemme think

can you send me your modlist

[hardy mica]

these

[hardy mica]

also i updated the other two again since it didnt seem to fix it
ill try reverting again if your next advice doesnt work

@narrow fossil really dont know if i should be @ing you
but
you
seem to be online rn?
do you know what the issue i could be having might be?

[narrow fossil]

It will (probably) be fixed in the next update

[hardy mica]

oh good

should i just not bother for rn then and then wait for the update

[narrow fossil]

If it doesn't work in the next update it's probably a mod conflict

[hardy mica]

sounds good then

im not playing with a group rn im just testing this for next time we do play

[restive ledge]

ah sorry was doing something ig we should wait for piggy to update

[restive ledge]

i cant see anything wrong. also i once tried playing lethalsdk with lethalexpansioncore it caused some glitches i dont remember which (dont know if this will actually help)

ill reread the log

[hardy mica]

thought it was required for lethalexpansion and lethalexpansioncore

[restive ledge]

i dont think so i play without it

[hardy mica]

would disabling it fuck up any moons or is it fine?

[restive ledge]

wait lemme recheck

[hardy mica]

oh ok good

[restive ledge]

i play with a lot of custom moons like celestria amplify and nothing really changes

[hardy mica]

specifically talking about like

orion and celest and shit

LE moons

[restive ledge]

ye i do play with orion

and it works

[balmy orchid]

Just tested it in the LethalDev room

4 fps as soon as the shrimp notices me)

[restive ledge]

ill do the same

and see

WOT THE HELLLLL!

this is getting spammed so much

[balmy orchid]

So I'm thinking of disabling office for now.

he creates a shrimp on every map, but it is nowhere to be found

I even disabled its appearance in the settings

but on consoles it is listed

[restive ledge]

but that aint a problem if he doesn't notice you

i mean i saw its back

but when it noticed me

i got spammed

[balmy orchid]

Same thing, yeah

Scary monster

[restive ledge]

i can read odinsereializer in the log

thats a mod

maybe they conflict

odinserializer*

wait

ill test in a diff profile

and only add odinserializer

and lc office and lethaldevmode

[sacred ibex]

the weight to spawn shrimp is like 2 3 biggest is 8, thats the lowest chance possible

thats like 0.20-0.60% spawn chance

[restive ledge]

why does it its a dependecy when its not listed in the mod page

[idle linden]

lethal network api depends on it, which this mod depends on the api

[restive ledge]

oh

i tried reverting odinserializer to the older version and i still got da error

[narrow fossil]

generating 2 interiors

[wicked needle]

Question regarding this, isn't there a limited space players can enter and upon touching the boundaries players teleport to the dungeon entrance, how would this play around the playable area constraints?

[loud epoch]

As I understand it, there's a box around the playable areas. If the player leaves that box, they are teleported to the entrance. So if you have multiple interiors, you just need a second box for the second interior.

[narrow fossil]

out of bound area is located below the map scene, and is in the form of a plane, not a box

so it's probably fine

[idle linden]

just make sure not to go too far and end up outside the oob plane (where if someone ends up oob, they fall for eternity)

[latent solar]

Hello, can someone explain Spawn weight to me? Been playing with this mod for a while now but we have yet to run into shrimp, I want to increase his (spawn chance) weight but I don't understand how it works and what the numbers truly mean or how it will affect the spawning of other mobs

[novel flame]

the numbers are the rarity per moon in the order stated above the field.
Rarity is a weight. When the game decides on which enemy to spawn it will roll a random number between 0 and the sum of all weights. Then it checks what enemy has been 'hit' and that will be added to spawns

so higher rarity = more likely to spawn

[wicked needle]

Spawn weight is the value representing spawn chance. Think of a pie chart where each slice is a weighted value for a monster on that moon, percent chance would be (slice / total) * 100

[unborn bay]

How it works isn't really important, I'd recommend just doubling all the numbers (4,8,10,6,12,16,16,20).

[astral latch]

For some reason, some of my friends in my group are complaining about a blue sphere every time we goto the elevator. It's just blocking the doorway. I have no pictures sadly but two of my friends experienced it the four.

[tiny wave]

@astral latch does it look like that?

[astral latch]

Maybe? I don't really know my friends didn't give me any screenshots from last night.

But the door was opened but not open for them.

[vapid patio]

could this be causing the lag?

[unborn saffron]

the spam may or may not be the source of the lag, but the number of shadows is the issue

[vapid patio]

alr thanks

I havet his issue with scarlet devil mansiona

too

[unborn saffron]

at risk of looking like a shill, you might want to check out CullFactory, it should prevent the shadow quota issue

[vapid patio]

I mean my framerate is still fine, on all interiors except for SDM, and on this interior it only spikes sometimes. Also does cull factory have a config? I want to make it what it does, but less

cause it stops rendering stuff to early, so there are no walls, but you can see players, enemies, and loot through it

[unborn saffron]

just use portal occlusion culling, that's based on visibility so you should see no visual change with it enabled

(with a few minor caveats)

judging by your description, you used it before portal occlusion culling was a thing

[vapid patio]

how do I use that

[unborn saffron]

select it as your culling type in the config

[vapid patio]

ok

[crimson berry]

Doesnt it break this mod tho

[unborn saffron]

no

it doesn't break any interiors that I'm aware of at the moment

(to be specific, that's with version 1.8.0 of the mod)

[crimson berry]

I guess it used to break it. Last time i used cull factory the entire interior didnt load

[unborn saffron]

perhaps, yeah

it's worked since I added portal occlusion culling to it

[fresh mountain]

Is items falling through the elevator bottom when dropped known?

I would assume so but best to check

[deft tapir]

@fresh mountain

Yeah its known, It'll desync but it'll eventually reach the top if you went up with it. You have to wait a bit but it'll show up to the top if you running solo/group. LC_Office is known for

• Deysnc elevator may happen if anyone/everyone uses it.
• Items disappear and reappear at the top if dropped in elevator
• Loot feels scarce because sometimes there's just nothing but long hallways and rooms upon rooms. 🤷

[fresh mountain]

Ah

I didn't wait long enough

[deft tapir]

I hear he's fixing something but if forgot what. I've turned off the office for all maps for now until sync issue is fixed. Love shrimp tho, he's great! 🦐

[fresh mountain]

The giant map is gonna be hell, I'm in solo

But I really like the elevator vibe

[deft tapir]

good luck, my fiends and I were just doing an Titan moon, Office interior awhile ago. Hallways for days running from a jester lol

[primal sail]

https://pastebin.com/gqGrhZSb

I currently have INSANE spam + lags.

My log file got to 600MB in a few seconds.

Started when I heard a Shrimp

[vapid patio]

btw moon is sick on Gratar

[narrow fossil]

There is currently a serious issue with Shrimp and it is causing some very catastrophic frame drops.
I recommend disabling spawning for now until the next update

[deft locust]

any1 know a moon that fits with this interior??

[fresh mountain]

Most of them

[craggy sigil]

Office works well on most moons that the Facility works on, yeah

It's designed to look vanilla at first before you drop in via the ||elevator||

[idle linden]

if you have your repo up to date, I wouldn't be adverse to making a network rework PR

[craggy sigil]

Is this related to vanilla EnemyAI functions that might be fixed with PathfindingLagFix? Cuz I haven't had any Shrimpy boi issues

[unborn saffron]

if the error mentioned above is the one causing the lag, which it presumably is, then I think it's unrelated

[latent solar]

Is this an intended thing or is it telling me there is an error with the mod?

[acoustic laurel]

the second I saw the shrimp my game went ot like 0.2 fps

[forest niche]

new LLL version right ?

[acoustic laurel]

most recent

[forest niche]

ok

i'm still waiting with the 1.0.7 i want office and the shrimp to work haha

[hushed cave]

sorry to ask, how can i set different rarity in different moon?

[shrewd dagger]

Guessing the shrimp and the error is caused due to it not being updated with latest LLL right?

[gray wyvern]

afaik you can't right now

[forest chasm]

The Shrimp is such a cute little goober

But it would be nice if the scrap density in this interior could be increased

It's very sparse

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/the-upturned/images/6/69/Shrimp_Bouncing.gif/revision/latest?cb=20220825233127

Goofy thing

[fresh mountain]

Solution: suggest size cap config settings. I've seen them in other dungeon configs. Scoopys interiors are way smaller for me now

[restive ledge]

For me coomfy dungeon fixed that but it kinda overincreases scrap on bunker interior its because moreinteriors spawns too much

[forest chasm]

MoreInteriors feels like it spawns a good amount

[restive ledge]

Yeah opposite of lc office but maybe we can config coomydungeon ill go check in a bit

I have a power outage rn and i dont have much charge left on my phone

I have 2 charge left

[topaz pumice]

having a bunch of spam here

[forest chasm]

The elevator seems kinda fragile

[topaz pumice]

yeah happening every time, probably a mod conflict

[steady pivot]

that happens to me everytime i finish one Office run n then i go back to it, so the 2nd time around (i have it on guaranteed for testing)

not sure if it would happen if it wasnt back 2 back

[topaz pumice]

well that was the first time and on the second time its still spamming

[steady pivot]

ooo

[topaz pumice]

this issue was caused by RoundMapSystem being null everytime

[forest chasm]

@narrow fossil Did you see my github report

[vapid wraith]

the shrimp must be disabled atm ?

[balmy orchid]

Does LC_Office have a standard generation size? 2.35

Will it be smaller or the same on Exp?

[narrow fossil]

It's probably a little bigger. the room itself is large, and I may have changed the size in the code.
It should be fine in the next update

[balmy orchid]

@supple sluice Don't know what this is?

[supple sluice]

Probs lighting strikes or something on custom moon?

[balmy orchid]

On Rend - LC_Office

By the way, yes

Lightning

exactly

Yes, that's it

[crimson berry]

Ya lightning just does a lot of log spams lol

[narrow fossil]

downgrading LethalNetworkAPI might work

to v2.1.4

[balmy orchid]

I don’t think it’s necessary, I still set the generation spawn to rare

I'll just hope and wait that an Office update will come out someday

🥺

[narrow fossil]

oh I saw the error wrong lmao
the next update will probably fix a lot of errors. I'm still working on bugfixes

[narrow fossil]

peak

which is better

[red coyote]

I like the faded first one better

[soft kindle]

I'll be honest, don't think that elevator room needs call buttons on every corner.

[narrow fossil]

me too lmao

I think I'll change it later

[soft kindle]

[fresh mountain]

Yooooo

[blazing quarry]

was that always a thing?

[soft kindle]

What exactly? Those are in-dev videos.

[blazing quarry]

Storing stuff in the elevator closet

[fresh mountain]

Can attest not

It will be a very welcome change

[blazing quarry]

Neat, but what the practical use if you can just drop stuff on the floor of the elevator?

[soft kindle]

Organising.

[fresh mountain]

Floor for scrap, shelves for tools

Or high value scrap ig

[blazing quarry]

True, bring more tools and no need to return to the ship everytime you need anything

Would be cool to have charger somewhere near the elevator tho

[unborn saffron]

are those TVs live cameras? hopefully the fps hit won't be too bad

[tribal holly]

I imagine they’ll handle it by turning it off when it’s not being viewed

[fresh mountain]

Maybe on the top floor, in the security offices, but it would be pretty powerful

[worthy magnet]

Sorry if this has been answered already but is there a reason why the elevator errors?

[brave aurora]

@narrow fossil Random question, sorry for pestering, but how were you able to fix the navmesh on your map? I'm having a lot of troubles trying to get my navemsh to appear in the sceneviewer after I bake it, and it's not spawning enemies on the outside for me

[craggy sigil]

Is that... a way to observe monsters in-game?

Cuz that's kinda dope

Definitely should make those TVs on/off client-sided for performance but that's cool af

I do have a question

What happens if a Jester aggros and someone is at the top of the elevator

I assume it can't get up there?

Would be scary af if it could get up the emergency ladder somehow

[fresh mountain]

It calls the elevator

Wonder if mimics already can do that

[torpid plover]

In the config, if I put "free" in the moons list, it's not gonna put it on modded free moons right? just the vanilla free ones?

[worthy magnet]

When I put free in the config it seems to appear on modded moons, most I've tested it on is infernis from Wesley's moons

[worthy magnet]

I'm also getting this issue, is there any known mod that conflicts with this mod?

[craggy sigil]

If an enemy calls the elevator to chase me I'm fkin done lmao

[fresh mountain]

What if it calls the elevator with you inside?

[deft tapir]

puts the apparatus in the elevator for you!

[craggy sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-frank-castle-punisher-no-frank-castle-no-no-no-no-gif-24489266

Jokes aside, if they add the ability for enemies to call the elevator it should definitely be limited to like, Masked

And that's it lmao

Could def see other enemies using the ladders tho

[deft tapir]

sounds good to me tho with mask able to do so.

[craggy sigil]

Masked are really good at replicating behaviors they've seen from a lore standpoint

So it'd make some sense

[restive ledge]

the right looks more office like and the left makes it look abandoned maybe merge the colors together i think that will look the best

idk if that even makes sense tho

maybe if they are painted the paint is falling off idk

[fresh mountain]

Definitely agree

[chrome hinge]

I have this too, no errors in console

[lone birch]

every time I get office on one of the moons there's like no scrap. If it's activated on experimentation you get 1 or two junk. The other easy moons don't have much and the generation of the map is somewhat big.

[novel flare]

This feels like a common problem with interiors

[lone birch]

Ahh, alright. It's just that some of the other interiors I've been using don't seem to have that issue in where you'll never find junk.

Even on the same moons other interiors just give me more.

[stark forge]

hey, just a couple questions

can i put my loot in the elevator to keep it safe from loot bugs?

and if its not safe cant i just send the elevator up?

[forest chasm]

That seems quite annoying

[narrow fossil]

I haven't set up anything for NavMesh

you don't need to bake navmesh. navmesh are automatically baked when dungeon are generated during gameplay

[sullen nimbus]

so theres a consistant bug with players that arent the host unable to make the elevator go up, is there any fix to this? is it a conflict or a known bug?

[forest chasm]

Oh I thought I was the only one with this issue

[narrow fossil]

can you send me the log?

[sullen nimbus]

yeah i can send it in a sec, im finishing up a run with some friends

[narrow fossil]

k

the same bug can have different causes for different people

[old kettle]

✅

[forest chasm]

What is the scrap rate supposed to be like? Because to me it's always barren and the scan always shows really shitty rates

Like titan with 23 objects worth 800 credits

[fresh mountain]

Shrimp ate it all before you got there

[forest chasm]

Shrimp is a big cutie so I forgive

But yeah, it does make the mod largely unusable, for me at least

The size is fine, but the scrap rates are really shit

An option to change the scrap rarity could be nice to have in the config

[craggy sigil]

I believe fixes are coming

But for now I have Office disabled unfortunately

[forest chasm]

Yeah me too

3:

I want to meet the shrimp

[craggy sigil]

I had Shrimp enabled on other maps via AdvancedCompany and interior set to low

But now people are reporting really bad lag with Shrimp

Sooo

[forest chasm]

Nooo

Not so shrimple now is it

[forest chasm]

Justice for my shrimpy boy

He deserves to be in all interiors

Does shrimp hurt you if you're in its hitbox?

Can we pet the shrimp

Ooo
New scrap item

SHRIMP PLUSHIE

[craggy sigil]

Shrimp Plushie would be great

Once the mod is fixed

[fresh mountain]

Shrimp cannibalism

[forest chasm]

Shrimp: grab plushie
Plushie: squeak

[narrow fossil]

when did you play it? LethalNetworkAPI updated about 8 hours ago, it's probably okay now

[forest chasm]

Shrimp runs away and there's just squeak squeak squeak

[old kettle]

Shrimp only seems to work properly with LethalNetworkAPI 2.1.4 now

[craggy sigil]

Good to hear, but aren't there still low scrap / dungeon way too large issues?

I never actually encountered the issue myself so I can at least turn Shrimpy back on

[narrow fossil]

It's been updated to 2.1.6, which I understand reverts some of the changes made in 2.1.5

so it's probably fine

[old kettle]

can i send my video in your DM?

[narrow fossil]

that's something I'll fix in the next update 👍

[narrow fossil]

yep

[forest chasm]

Hell yea!

[craggy sigil]

Good to hear. Only other thing I'm waiting on really is the ability to specify per moon

[forest chasm]

And also allow shrimp on all interiors

[craggy sigil]

Right now I can list them, but I can't specify a weight for each moon

[narrow fossil]

It should be spawned in other interiors by now, cuz mob spawning is determined by the moon

[forest chasm]

Ah, cool

[craggy sigil]

Oh hey Piggy

This is a less important question

And not something you need to fix

But does Shrimp code into vanilla EnemyAI?

Aka does he use EnemyAI functions for pathfinding

Asking because if so, he should potentially work outside if you have StarlancerAIFix installed, and I know he didn't work outside for me before that mod released

Was curious if it was worth testing again

[old kettle]

sended

[forest chasm]

You're outside your ship, you see two beedy lttle eyes approaching from the distance

"Uh oh"

It's a shrimp

I'm sure the shrimp would be passified if you would just give him a lil headpat

[narrow fossil]

the pathfinding system is different from other mob. I plan to change it later

It's a bit difficult to explain... It's EnemyAI, but at first I misunderstood the code and couldn't use the function. So i actually created it with my own script

[forest chasm]

For scientific purposes
Does Shrimp have health

[narrow fossil]

INVINCIBLE

[forest chasm]

FUCK YEA

How many can spawn?

[narrow fossil]

only one

[forest chasm]

Good good

Does he make noise?

[sullen nimbus]

sorry, didnt expect it to take an hour to wrap up, heres the log! unfortunately its a bit too big to post here (ive never seen a txt file over 25mb what the fuck) so i uploaded it to gdrive!! https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uKpHwXwSY-gOZ043gpdJ7OLCv_2eThvk/view?usp=sharing

idk where else to upload it ;;

[forest chasm]

That's fucking massive wtf

[sullen nimbus]

ikr, idk if its cuz the amount of mods or if its maybe the amount of time we played, or both

[forest chasm]

Both?

Both?
Both is good

[chrome hinge]

i grabbed my player.log, im not sure how helpful this will be

[floral veldt]

looks like peak is back on the menu

[tribal holly]

😏

[crimson berry]

Piggy on the grind rn

[acoustic laurel]

when my baby boy not going to ddos?

[forest chasm]

@tepid wind Do you have any advice for fixing the interior desync issues?

[tardy urchin]

🤯

[narrow fossil]

wtf 1,870,620 lines

[crimson berry]

🪦

[lime shell]

ah yes a few lines

[idle linden]

that's like 5 hours of gameplay

[lime shell]

how do you get 0 errors with this many lines

i cant get 100 lines without 5 errors

[idle linden]

I can't get 5 lines without 10 errors

[lime shell]

also

unrelated

but is anyone getting lots of issues with LLL lately?

1.1.5 can't figure out how to rotate scrap, 1.1.6 just straight up refuses to send data to the server most of the times and i haven't tried earlier versions yet

kinda forgot which version i was using when everything was working fine

[crimson berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/959271895004487750/987500260685381702/caption_Original.gif

[sonic crystal]

Really bad is an understatement, at least in my case, it lagged my game to 3 frames and the lag stayed, I had to restart the run

[tribal holly]

YandereDev_irl:

[idle linden]

don't do 'em dirty like that

[crimson berry]

[stark forge]

the missing server thingy but this time theres a sideways vent.

[balmy stirrup]

the right one

[grand nimbus]

What specific issues have you been having with 1.1.6? I've yet to try it but I thought it fixed most of the 1.1.0 issues

Also general question, does Office work with CullFactory yet?

[lime shell]

not being able to play modded moons whatsoever (gets stuck in loading seed, errors show TCP issues and DunGen disabling itself for "dependencies")

[grand nimbus]

huh

you should probably report that in https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1193461151636398080

Since I thought that was fixed

[lime shell]

yeah i found the channel right after posting here

imma try and go more in details tmrw

[willow shard]

does the elevator not work ?

[deft tapir]

Reposting my experience. Note I usually play with 4+ crew.

LC_Office is known for;

• Elevator desyncs after the first few uses. Worse desync after apparatus is pulled out and then put into the elevator. Only works for the one who has the apparatus.
• Items disappear and reappear at the top if dropped in elevator
• Loot feels scarce because sometimes there's just nothing but long hallways and rooms upon rooms. 🤷

If you don't get these, I'm jealous. Also the Fiend works here since the doors are the same and long chases thru long hallways are fun.

Disabled interior, kept the 🦐 tho until updated!

[willow shard]

is the fiend a good mod ?

and is there any conflicts you know with it

because i have a lot of mods

[deft tapir]

The Fiend is a decent mod, I like it. It's getting support and gets updated so sure. I don't think it'll conflict with anything so far. It's a standalone new enemy with 30 spawn weight. Good on maps with the apparatus present.

Only breaks facility type doors. I haven't tested mansion tho. Works and is great in the office interior.

[willow shard]

what about the scp one

shy guy i think its called

[deft tapir]

Same, spawns later outside or in. More on paid moons. Well integrated as well, had shyguy in my mods for awhile now (probably as long as Office)

[forest chasm]

This happens quite often on mansion

[stark forge]

..really?

you mean sideways vents?

[fresh mountain]

I've seen it

[leaden nebula]

awww, dang, I am definitely getting the hosed performance if shrimp turns up on a moon, sadness 😔

[crude dust]

is there any way to guarantee that office appears on a specific moon

[stark forge]

sadly, i have some "desync" mods and it doesnt fix the elevator desync

somethings gotta be done man :<

cause i got really good loot and my friend couldnt even get up to transport the rest

apparently i figured out it also doesnt work if you drop them the apparatus to put in themselves..

[worthy magnet]

Only way I've found to grab the apparatus is have the host grab it, use the elevator, and then the other players can climb the ladder up to the main entrance or take a fire exit

It's the method I use in the time being since the desync always happens

[thick brook]

we tried it out today, went down fine but the moment we stepped out we would all be teleported back to the front door

[restive ledge]

fixed

i just tested

oh i just read down a lil and piggy already stated that its fixed

[craggy sigil]

mhm

I've re-enabled it for now

[leaden nebula]

I definitely got the horrendous shrimp lag with the latest version of this and lethalnetworkapi

took me from 80 fps to like 3 fps

[narrow fossil]

there is a bug in the current version that prevents Shrimp from recognizing players

[forest chasm]

So he just sorta

Waddles around

[narrow fossil]

a beta version with a few fixes (there's a problem placing apparatus)

also remade the start room and added an additional elevator floor

[forest chasm]

It may be a good idea to have a start staircase because of the elevator sometimes not working for all players

[soft kindle]

Guess what.

[forest chasm]

No

[soft kindle]

Is already a thing.

[forest chasm]

Wait is it?

When did that get added?

[soft kindle]

A ladder.

[forest chasm]

...

Yeah I know there's a ladder

But you can't take two handed objects up a ladder

[soft kindle]

Staircase would require big redesign of starting room I imagine.

[narrow fossil]

^

[forest chasm]

Fair enough

What is causing the elevator desync?

[narrow fossil]

idk actually

[forest chasm]

Goofy

[narrow fossil]

so I'm trying to fix various thingy

[forest chasm]

Yis

[chrome hinge]

regenerating my config fixed the issue

[old kettle]

https://outplayed.tv/media/5KKOvL

shrimp seems to be very fast.

if he angry 😦

[forest chasm]

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

"Hello"
death

[unborn bay]

@narrow fossil just pinging you to make sure you saw my suggestions to make shrimp more accurate to how they are in upturned (suggestions are here #1196943144009351258 message)

[narrow fossil]

• Blocking the door - I was originally going to fix it like you said, but it won't be easy so I'll do it later
• Different from The Upturned - fixed in recent version
• The last one is relatively better because I heavily nerfed Shrimp in the last version. If it doesn't work out, I'll adjust it a little more later ✨

[unborn bay]

alright!

[stark forge]

this is bad if you find big loot, the ladder technically means nothing

• apparently for my friend the elevator was glitched on the second floor right after i put the apparatus in..?

no idea, but i was gonna say that makes the ladder even more useless

[stark forge]

oh and also, idk how you could nerf shrimp other than making him killable maybe

[worthy magnet]

You have to send the elevator back down it'll teleport, that's how it works for me, also yes it is bad because you can't bring big loot so you have to find a fire exit. I wasn't saying it was ideal I was saying it was how to use it for the time being

[stark forge]

so i send it up and then back down??

cause its already at the bottom for me

and it seems as if this strange desync has different outcomes for everyone, im getting the weirdest ones

like look at this video

https://youtu.be/rley-rgeplg?t=3975

in this time frame they all put in the apparatus

and it made it work

but apparently i tried that with my friend and he couldnt even put it in

[worthy magnet]

Yeah I have no idea why it bugs out like that

It the elevator at the bottom for your friends?

They just have to use the ladder for now

[stark forge]

no, top for them, bottom for me

this happened last time

[worthy magnet]

Weird, try calling it up and down and see if it teleports for them

[stark forge]

i could next time..

[worthy magnet]

I'm not sure what causes the desync but it's a base issue

[stark forge]

..isnt there a mod that should solve desync?

[worthy magnet]

None that I know of, the issue is the elevator itself

[stark forge]

well as far as i know if you ever have interior desync i heard ModlistHashChecker fixes it but i dont see it doing much with the elevator

[worthy magnet]

Last time I yanked the apparatus I had to use the elevator then send it back down and it teleported for my friends to use the ladder

[worthy magnet]

Good to know I'll try it

If it's too annoying I just recommend not pulling the apparatus on office if you don't know where the fire exit is

Hopefully it gets fixed if possible

[sweet tinsel]

Insym <3

[stark forge]

yes.

[supple sluice]

Thorlar ❤️

[sweet tinsel]

Ah yes, the man who planted down swarm wife on a random minecraft world and made it world record

[stark forge]

also i hope this wasnt forgotten about but it sound basically just like a cloned apparatus sound but low quality

should be fixed somehow idk

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1196943144009351258/1205396425987592222/appsound.mp4?ex=65d837e7&is=65c5c2e7&hm=af620b37f753bb9973cd7e50f2b233110e4a30ee8a60abb0a5d8be928ec57223&

[unborn saffron]

there is no magic fix to solve all desync, you just have to wait for people to fix bugs

[craggy sigil]

Mhm, I've seen other game mods that attempt to magic fix desync

What ends up happening is they'll try to forcibly sync everything every so often, which is often worse

Causes insane lag spikes, client teleportation, items appearing/disappearing

Mod devs themselves have to fix desync issues

[unborn saffron]

not only can it cause that lag/bandwidth consumption, but not everything is intended to be synced and there's no way for a mod targeting all desync to know which things shouldn't be synced

[craggy sigil]

Exactly

So they have to target everything

and resync it

Even if already synced

[sharp cosmos]

does anyone know an easy way to set the shrimp spawn weights? because i want it to have around a 30 percent chance to spawn on all moons but im not sure how to put that into the config settings. thanks in advance

[gray wyvern]

I know this is a known issue, but has anyone found a way to fix the weird server room with floating vents glitch?

also it seems like barely any scrap spawns whenever I get the office interior

[near sparrow]

Maybe lower size?

[craggy sigil]

That's unfortunately a known WIP bug

scrap density is just really low

Lowering size can help a bit but doesn't fix it

A map that typically has 3400 scrap value can have 900 if your interior is Office

[fresh mountain]

Wait, this is experimentation, I just entered and it's the office

[narrow fossil]

sadly office still has a bug with scrap spawn

[fresh mountain]

Yea... Fun place though

[forest chasm]

And Shrimp is a goober

[shrewd dagger]

whats the cause of the scrap issue hmm

[wicked needle]

Shrimp ated it

[shrewd dagger]

lmaoo youre actually not wrong

[worthy magnet]

I haven't seen shrimp since I downloaded this mod 😭

I have the weights on default

[restive ledge]

Im pretty sure he has like 2 weight in experimentation only idk

Its been a while

I had to edit it to increase shrimp spawn

[worthy magnet]

I only ever go to like, vow, offense and march and still haven't seen him

What does he do?

[restive ledge]

||he run around and eat scrap and look very cute and makes some goofy sounds||

[worthy magnet]

So he just consumes my scrap? 😭

[tiny wave]

and kills you if hes not fed

well

bites

[worthy magnet]

Can I befriend him if I feed him enough

[lime shell]

||become broke for greater good 👍||

[primal sail]

Is the Shrimp fixed now? 🙂

[forest niche]

no update, so i guess no

[worthy magnet]

Shrimp seems fixed

I mean does it hurt to test it next time you play?

[vapid wraith]

it hurts my pc

[soft kindle]

Last update was 2 weeks ago. Do the math.

[narrow fossil]

thats a bug in the version currently uploaded to the thunderstore

[soft kindle]

Yes, I am aware. That wasn't a reply to you. I replied to reference your message.

[narrow fossil]

k

[narrow fossil]

due to personal matters, I won't be able to view discord until <t:1708246800:f>.

uhm I can see the chat, but I think it will be difficult to reply

[wicked needle]

Personal stuff always comes first, take your time Piggy 💖

[latent solar]

I posted this a week or so ago but don't think anyone answered me. Is this by design? or is it a bug?

And if a bug how do I fix it

[pulsar gorge]

I think the power is out

when that shows up

[latent solar]

I can't remeber if we checked the breaker box but we got the map 5 times whille playing and each time it was like this

[unborn saffron]

probably a mod conflict then, any errors in the log when the map is loading?

[latent solar]

actully yes I see this

[unborn saffron]

from what I see in the code, it seems like that should be caused by a previous error, can you check the text logs to see if any errors related to LCOffice appear before that?

actually, not even necessarily related to LCOffice

[vague acorn]

he's not angry! he's just hungry"

[acoustic laurel]

when is my baby boy going to be fixed? 🥺

[soft kindle]

If he's your baby, then fix him yourself. 🙂

[forest niche]

Piggy is not here untill tomorrow

[acoustic laurel]

not here?

[forest niche]

yes see this message

[acoustic laurel]

ah I see

[shrewd dagger]

let piggy cook when they're back 👍

[pallid cedar]

Is it known to have incompatibility issues with Infernis? When I get Office on Infernis and I try to descent to the dungeon I get teleported back as if I were hitting the dungeon limit

Same thing happens no matter if I use the elevator or the ladder

[fresh mountain]

Happens with other dungeons too

Infernis is apparently a very tall map and people were complaining in Scoopys dungeons about not being able to go down certain stairs without teleporting back to the start

Think it's a LLL issue or something

[forest niche]

It only happen if the dungeon is super big, right ?

[fresh mountain]

No idea, sorry

[polar gull]

could it be possible to add a config that makes apparatus rooms more common they feel wierdly rarer in the offices then any other modded/vanilla interior dungeon

[stark forge]

i really hope the elevator is made more wobbly

like the one in the announcement teaser

i really hope the elevator interior isnt finished cause i also really like the windows with the bars on them

ragghh i want updates

https://tenor.com/view/screams-vanishing-gif-23313762

[fallow shale]

is there a fix for the elevator door not opening for clients when using the apparatus?

it gets to the top and the door opens for the host but not for the clients

for context we have facilitymeltdown and here is the modlist

[deft tapir]

@fallow shale

Yeah its known, It'll desync eventually. Running solo is fine but groupwise so far reading this thread I see LC_Office is known for

• Desync elevator may happen if anyone/everyone uses it with or without apparatus.
• When using elevator as item transport to the top may cause slow reappearing at the destination.
• Loot feels scarce because of the interior may be larger than it should be.
• Sideways vents show up in server room/large rooms?
• 🦐 may cause catastrophic FPS lag in some/all interiors
• 🦐 may also struggle with pathfinding in some/all interiors.

[narrow fossil]

shrimp fps lag was an api issue and was fixed with an update

oh and I'm back and now I'm back to work ✨

[old kettle]

https://outplayed.tv/media/OvKydM

scary cutie

[forest chasm]

What a cute little thing AAAAAAAA

[unborn bay]

what a silly little thing

@narrow fossil idea, maybe you could add a setting to disable the elevator having an apparatus slot? would be an easy "fix" until the apparatus slot is properly fixed

[mellow quiver]

tbh id say just adding an alternate staircase leading up to main floor would be a nice alternative. If things break people can still easily leave.

Think like the sewer in the variety pack.

[shrewd dagger]

wait since when the elevator is in the hallways now

[novel flame]

ladder mod is a better workaround imo. Use it to be able to carry 2h items up the ladder

[mellow quiver]

Oh huh
Def downloading that

[novel flame]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/e3s1/BetterLadders/
think it's this one

[void anchor]

is the host being able to use the elevator but nobody else a known bug?

[restive ledge]

i encounter it a lot

[void anchor]

possible issues are using LE or MoreCompany

[restive ledge]

a lot of moons require LE tho

[void anchor]

yeah that's why i'm using it

I use LEC to minimise issues tho

[hoary whale]

yo where can i find the shrimp ive had it enabled on all maps and ive been increasing the spawn rate for weeks and ive never seen it

[old kettle]

only spawn experimentation : (

[hoary whale]

dang

good to know

[astral latch]

Took the apparatus out and rejoined the lobby and went back to the same map and I got that.

[hoary whale]

i found the shrimp ||didnt know it ate scrap||

[fresh mountain]

||Why do you think offices have so few scrap sometimes?||

[shrewd dagger]

LOLL

shrimp gonna be chonk soon

[narrow fossil]

i just fixed the scrap spawn

[restive ledge]

epic

is it gon release soon

cant wait

[narrow fossil]

Hospitals worse

[fresh mountain]

Yay!

Also is there going to be a config for size multiplier or something?

I know a bunch of interiors let you alter the max size of a dungeon, I use that a lot because solo is hard

[narrow fossil]

👍

[unborn bay]

finally

[fresh mountain]

Nice

[unborn bay]

how does this work? does it change how many tiles there are or is it a multiplier like the map size of the moon

[narrow fossil]

also reduced the default size of the map

[fresh mountain]

Oh cool

[narrow fossil]

tiles

[unborn bay]

how many tiles are there by default (-1)?

[narrow fossil]

10~12

[fresh mountain]

Ah

[narrow fossil]

I only did that much and it felt like a good size

[unborn bay]

do you have an estimate for when this update will be?

[narrow fossil]

I plan to update as soon as I fix the network object error

I can't be sure but I don't think it will take that long

[fresh mountain]

I think this might be my fave interior simply because of the elevator

[hoary whale]

finally i always felt that office had way to little scrap tbh with the only rooms having it is the server one most of the time

the elevator is def what makes it stick out

[unborn bay]

quickly reminding of this

[fresh mountain]

The aesthetic is also nice but riding from the entrance to the lower levels in style is just mmph

[hoary whale]

i just played the map with my friend he died to braken on the stairs right in front of me and i died to thumper after getting apparatus lol

i mainly found scrap in the server room and the big room with the pillar in the middle

[fresh mountain]

Also I've only managed to do it once (and I don't think I survived lmao) but with Facility meltdown riding the elevator back up becomes hella stressful

[hoary whale]

yeah there was a mimic fire exit close to apparatus which my friend found

i hope in the next update the shrimp is on more maps since its such an interesting enemy

also for some reason i couldnt scan it

like it was a sentry

[willow shard]

yo can anyone tell me how to make the elevator to work

[fresh mountain]

What problem?

The elevator panel works like door controls, but the elevator needs the breaker box to be on to work

[acoustic laurel]

Thank you

[fresh mountain]

If you pull the apparatus you need to insert it into the elevator receptacle to get it working again.

Also there have been complaints of network bugs so if you're having issues with some people being able to use it and others not, that's probably it

[shrewd dagger]

Good luckk!! seems painful enough tho to figure out-

[grand nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[wicked needle]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-kirby-stimming-kirby-happy-kirbys-dream-buffet-happy-gif-26192031

[tall fern]

when i tried using this 2 guys fell into the void and the interiors were bugged and glitchy

[hoary whale]

Config desync or LLL

[narrow fossil]

usually config desync yep

[hoary whale]

my group has started using import codes for configs which has completely fixed different maps loading, falling through the floor, and different interiors loading for seperate people

[tepid wind]

no thats lll 1.1.0+

but keep config importing regardless

[hoary whale]

yeah

it got a little better in these new updates before i had to just stay on 1.0.7

[safe mirage]

@narrow fossil Do you have any plans to add a cubicle room? I think it would make the interior feel a lot more like a office.

[narrow fossil]

yep It's in the plan! there are still so many rooms I want to add lol

[safe mirage]

Awesome!

[hoary whale]

this interior reminds me of this old game rooms on roblox (which inspired doors) you could use https://r-rooms.fandom.com/wiki/Room_Types#Lobby_Room the style is very minamalistic though

[vague acorn]

@narrow fossil maybe you can make the office look more like an... office? right now it just looks like a buch of empty rooms that give off that feeling of a office. maybe like add things that would be in a office type of building

[hoary whale]

he said hes still planning a lot including office cubicles and more

[hoary whale]

some rooms from this

[narrow fossil]

im making many things rn

[hoary whale]

oh damn

fancy stairs and a room with a ton of walls

that one at the top reminds me of the mario 64 castle

isnt that the apparatus area?

[rancid lintel]

I hope we get a larger room with office cubicles at some point, would love to go poking around under these for scrap

[hoary whale]

yeah

no pressure

[narrow fossil]

this is the apparatus machine

[old kettle]

: o

[hoary whale]

yeah i reconized the shape

and that room

[rancid lintel]

Has the apparatus-elevator issue been fixed yet?

as in when you take the apparatus once, the elevator no longer works any other time you play on this same interior

[narrow fossil]

sadly it has been temporarily removed

[rancid lintel]

what has?

[narrow fossil]

elevator + apparatus

[rancid lintel]

That's ok

[hoary whale]

like you mean the apparatus doesnt need to be there for elevator to be on

[rancid lintel]

All that's important I guess is that it's playable

[hoary whale]

does this mean they are both removed or that there isnt a aparatus slot anymore on the elevator

[rancid lintel]

Hope to see it return as a feature at some point, because that adds a whole other area of risk VS reward to finding the apparatus VS the regular interior where you just walk out the exit door

[wispy dagger]

Not to mention the meant to be synergy this concept has with facility meltdown

[narrow fossil]

there is a slot but it's just decoration

[hoary whale]

oh

for a second i thought you removed the elevator

[narrow fossil]

apparatus here cannot be scanned or taken away

[narrow fossil]

lmao

[hoary whale]

usually the walk to the elevator from apparatus is so damn far anyways

it was def a hazard for teammates inside who didnt know where fire exits were

or if the meltdown mod was on

oh yeah

@narrow fossil are shrimp spawns going to be fixed

its a very cute enemy until it isnt and it murders you still very cool

[narrow fossil]

I wasn't sure how to fix this, so I changed the spawn weight config to have spawn weights for all moons

[tall fern]

thanks, it worked

it was the mod for like

facility meltdown

and its requirements

that gave me problems

[hoary whale]

i mean if that works for you i use meltdown and i have no issues but i know there were issues with the old versions

[tall fern]

i will try to reinstall it

maybe i did something wrong

idk why but i always get this room while using this mod with facility meltdown and its requirements

[hoary whale]

apparatus doesnt spawn in that room

idk whats up with the vent

[tall fern]

i mean

the requirements for like

facility meltdown

is a mod with like sync in it

[hoary whale]

if you sync your configs with the people you are playing with

[worthy magnet]

I was playing fine on office, elevator worked but now suddenly this keeps appearing on the elevator, my mods weren't changed but I disabled shrimp in my config would that be why?

[worthy magnet]

this is the console when it occurs aswell

[narrow fossil]

LC_Office v1.0.4 - ᵃⁿᵒᵗʰᵉʳ ᵐᵃʲᵒʳ ᵘᵖᵈᵃᵗᵉ ˡᵒˡ

ᵐᵃʲᵒʳ ᶜʰᵃⁿᵍᵉˢ

• Added 3 tiles(rooms).
• Added 5 scrap (Coin, Laptop, Screw driver, Toolbox, Wrench).
• Fixed scrap spawning.
• Fixed an issue where maps were generated too large.
• Elevator Apparatus system has been temporarily removed (for my sanity).
• Changed the door model.
• Reanimated the lung place animation(although it doesn't work).
• start room has been reworked and the elevator floors have been increased from 2 to 3(It may be reworked again in the future).

ᵐᶦⁿᵒʳ ᶜʰᵃⁿᵍᵉˢ

• Revamped the entire elevator system.
• Improved map generation and added override dungeon scaling config.
• Fixed an issue with vents being misplaced in server rooms.
• Added a config to adjust the volume of elevator music.
• Fixed a bug where shrimp could not recognize players.

ᴵᵗ ᵐᵃʸ ᵗᵃᵏᵉ ᵃ ʷʰᶦˡᵉ ᵗᵒ ᵇᵉ ᵛᶦᵉʷᵉᵈ ᵒⁿ ᵀʰᵘⁿᵈᵉʳˢᵗᵒʳᵉ·

finally i can go sleep now

[fresh mountain]

Laptop? hmmmm

[narrow fossil]

silly model by zeekerss

[fresh mountain]

Ah

I was curious if it could do anything

But also just being scrap is cool, I heard the word laptop and maybe started thinking of things that are beyond the scope of this mod

[narrow fossil]

I'll add the features to render the radar screen up to 3~4 times later (battery rechargeable)

It was in the original plan but I thought fixing other bugs came first

so I quickly updated it

[fresh mountain]

Nice. So it's almost a scrap version of the remote radar from like.. Lethal Things I think. I like that. I love having scrap equivalents of stuff

[unborn saffron]

I assume it's preferred to just target the local player? if so, I can try to help you create a new ManualCameraRenderer so that it doesn't have to show the "MONITORING" text or interfere with the main monitor

had to mess around with that a lot in TwoRadarMaps, but it always bothered me that for example the minimap mod just takes control of the main monitor so you have to fiddle with settings to monitor other people

[hoary whale]

Oh damn so like the handheld map mod that's cool ig I thought is was gonna just be another noise scrap that made keyboard noises

[idle linden]

lmao

minor changes

revamped the entire elevator system

[hoary whale]

Damn 3 floors is sick though I hope the map has the scrap spawns to support the size

[idle linden]

also putting out a major update while only changing the build/patch part of the versioning bugs me but I won't be bitchy about it

[hoary whale]

I don't know why piggy put the updates on the 3rd digit I wouldn't be mad if it has more bug fixes

[night kernel]

was there a new update?

[hoary whale]

Yes here

[night kernel]

kk

did they fix barely any loot spawning or no

oh they did

lets go

[fresh mountain]

Actually wait yeah I HAVE to see the office now

[narrow fossil]

ok next update will be 1.1.0 lmao