LC_Office / LC_Shrimp

[loud barn]

Isn’t that a Unity limit?

[cold river]

Loving the new update!! Here's a bit of 1.0.0 gameplay :))

[sacred ibex]

lmao

nice mix

can i post that vid on zekerss discord?

[cold river]

yeee

The music is a mod btw lol

[sacred ibex]

i know

its the doom music replacement when carrying mod

but i love the mix

[cold river]

true...

[sacred ibex]

its funny because hoarding bug event in brutal spawn massive amounts of them, and seeing them all die like this in the LC office layout is just to funny

i mean to be a mod nerd you prolly spawn all these hoarding bugs with gamemaster, uses infiniteshotgunammo and the doom music replacer such as lc office layout in one video

[cold river]

Nicely guessed

indeed

[sacred ibex]

thats what a month of modding gets you haha

[idle linden]

I love this

[sacred ibex]

i just realised your picture is yoda

you should put that video on youtube people seem to love it lmao

[unborn bay]

remember, no bug

[sacred ibex]

only spore lizards!

[tall bluff]

The update looks great

[sacred ibex]

but cant believe someone has a spore lizard oc

[unborn bay]

what

how does that relate

[sacred ibex]

thats kinda cool

i mean i seen people be ocs of their own in lethal suits but seeing someone be monster i mean why not

[grand nimbus]

Is the update stable? I'm thinking it's a good time to add to my moons modpack

[unborn bay]

if you mean me, i just have a spore lizard pfp
the little crown is just something for all of my pfps

[sacred ibex]

i would suppose it might be, hes working on it as much as he can

[sacred ibex]

thats neat eitherway :)

[tranquil fjord]

[unborn bay]

question mark? (note that this was v0.2.6)

[cold river]

Yea every door and vent were pretty much broken before 1.0.0 (or an update before idk)

[shrewd dagger]

how dare you kill the yippey 😔

[hollow dragon]

wait

so piggy did you actually manage to fix the issue with vents spawning weirdly?

[brave dirge]

couldn't play with this mod and with your other mod (MaskedAIRevamp), i get "object reference not set to an instance of an object" in console when trying to open a save

mod list: 018d6648-ad90-addf-a79a-d3debee13f39 (ur mods are deleted)

[grand nimbus]

Do you know if this is from MaskedAIRevamp, the Office, or both?

[tribal holly]

real

[rugged vault]

wait I just realised

this is out of beta

hehe

[outer dome]

configs must be the same

[brave dirge]

both didnt work, tried them separately. might be their dependency

it has something to do with my other mods tho, everything works fine if its just office

• i played yesterday with masked ai thing and it worked fine but i dont remember what mods updated since then

[unborn bay]

would be nice if office had the list spawn functionality of other interiors

[tepid wind]

Next LLL Update:P

[echo pebble]

Do you have an idea of when the update will be?

[tepid wind]

Not sure, ideally very soon

Since around middle of december aside from 6-8 days i wake up and work on lc stuff till i go to bed so been trying my hardest haha

[outer dome]

I know I don't click to go up in this clip but before going up didn't work either

[loud epoch]

Your dedication is admirable, but please maka sure you are taking care of yourself. Try not to burn out. A lot of us are counting on you. It's more important that you don't burn out, and get it done a little later, than that you get it out a bit sooner, but burn out and no longer have the motivation in the long term.

[narrow fossil]

was it a modded moon?

[outer dome]

Experimentation so no

[narrow fossil]

hmm ok

[tidal knoll]

Is it just me or does the culling facility mod not work with this?

[balmy stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ls8P8rPRY

^this would be peak elevator music

just saying

[candid finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mn2Dtm94jM

[outer dome]

culling factory has issues

[balmy stirrup]

how dare you bring back such memories to me, that game is dead to me

[candid finch]

what kind of memories?

[balmy stirrup]

remembers the great war agaisnt the great cheese

i dont like the big wigs

im sueing in court

the only good thing in toon town was the racing, and that one rope jungle swinging game you could get on the trolly

[candid finch]

the cursed purple rabbit with his 15 buildings task

[balmy stirrup]

The collection of gags to kill the cogs was not good enough

i needed an ak-47

[candid finch]

^

[balmy stirrup]

actually

on seccond thought

the pet system at the home was th best

i loved feeding my dog beans

thats probably nto a good idea in real life tho

[candid finch]

training the doodle sucks tho

[balmy stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[candid finch]

me when i have to do like 20 back 9s

[balmy stirrup]

thats it im leaving this chat to go kidnap little kids to make them play my lethal company modpack with me

(of course i use lc_office in my modpack)

[zenith garden]

uh

might be the culling mod

but

yeah

Oh it appeared when i started the elevator

strange

[proud forge]

Ok so i just realized feeding the shrimp the apparatice makes it glow

[nova spoke]

Yep that's culling mod, try this config and see if that fixes it

[zenith garden]

👍

[vernal folio]

Can you send it, please?

[vague acorn]

i mean they're much more aggressive in the og game, also why tf are you hitting shrimp with a shovel????

[primal sail]

I hit it, it runs away.

Which is why I thought that's what you have to do 🤷

[vague acorn]

that's like hitting a dog with a shovel

no not even "like". you are just hitting a dog with a shovel.

or a cat

[rancid skiff]

Good.

Get that thing away from me!

[balmy stirrup]

@narrow fossil
I had an issue with my friend where when we unplugged aparatus, he tried plugging it in to go up, but it got stuck, and went back down, and the doors wouldent open, and would sometimes open if unplugged and repluged multiple times.

also when it did let us push the up button. it insta-moved the elevator to the top, and made us go down.

Also on a side note: when the office loaded again, the elevator simply said it had no power, and refused to work, even though we never unplugged the aparatus that round.

I reccomend Incase and in preperations for future elevator incidents, please add back the left side staircase, as id rather have to take the stairs then not be able to get up, because on the one when it said it had no power and it was at the top, there was no way to reach the ladder back up, and its allways good to have stairs as a option. Stairs also lets monsters like scp-096 from the scp 096 mod, pathfind to the main entrance so they can leave the building, so i reccomend re-adding the staircase for main entrance 1- so monsters can escape the facility, and 2- incase of elevator malfunctions

[primal sail]

I mean... The dogs I know don't randomly kill me 🤔

I noticed it can eat items.

When I give it items to eat, it still kills me after like 3 or 5 seconds 🤷

[vague acorn]

you like have to feed it alot

i think, im going off of how they behave in upturned

[primal sail]

I wonder how many items they want 🤔

So far, I only was able to give them two items before they killed me

[vague acorn]

im going off of upturned here but he's constantly hungry

[primal sail]

Hmmm, okay 🤔

Well, gonna test this out tomorrow

[past sinew]

I feel like his hunger should be less to account for the lack of items. In upturned you have items all around you to feed him, lethal company not so much xd

unless you add more scrap spawns or something

[vague acorn]

im just taking a guess on how much you feed him from what upturned has

[past sinew]

which would be interesting, the office spawns more scrap but the catch is you dont get to take most of it back with you

[past sinew]

ikik im not saying your wrong or anything like that

[jade talon]

@narrow fossil i have this exact same issue as well, hoping for a fix

TLDR using the apparatus to power the elevator makes it stuck at the lower floors

[balmy stirrup]

yeah and please re-add the staircase to the main entrance 1: so monsters can pathfind up and up there is not safe ,and 2: incase elevator issues happen and you need to get two handed items up

and 3: who skips leg day, staircase is for chads

and also because it would be slightly nicer to see all 3 paths leading to the staircase,elevator, then the shaft

instead of having a path blocked off up there

[cold river]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SpyPlayer/DoomShotgun/

[vernal folio]

Thanks!

[cold river]

You’re welcome :))

[grand nimbus]

I didnt think about monsters that leave the facility pathing up stairs

if you added them but made it long that'd be cool

mostly for Masked in vanilla

[tranquil minnow]

Can confirm, unplugging the apparatus and trying to plug it into the elevator essentially "breaks" the elevator. I couldn't plug the apparatus in as it did not detect me as holding it in my hands, and when my friend tried it just locked him inside and the elevator stopped moving. We left via a fire exit but the office interior stayed broken in this state until the game was reloaded.

I would assume the issue lies with the game not detecting it in your hands/inventory properly and enabling the elevator accordingly, but I'm just spitballing

[jolly jasper]

my friend and i aren't getting the interior with 200% chance to spawn it

hang on apparently he didn't restart after changing the config

still didn't get it

[hot storm]

200%?

i don't have LC_Office installed, but i'm pretty sure all dungeon configs are based on weights, not percentages

[fiery fossil]

is there a spawn cap for shrimp

[hot storm]

so if you wanted to guarantee it you'd need to have like 99999 or something

[fiery fossil]

also yes, its weights

most vanilla moons have their main dungeon at a weight of 300

[jolly jasper]

okay i am a little silly. It isn't baesd of percentages, but still we may just be very unlucky

[hot storm]

nah, 200 is less than normal factory percentages

you just gave yourself bad chances bro, sorry

SHEEEEEEEESH A SUPER REACTION?!

dayum i feel extra correct now

[fiery fossil]

for example if you have office with a 200 weight, on experimentation it would have 39.92~% to spawn

[jolly jasper]

okay no it's jsut broken

we set it to guaranteed, and only get it when playing alone.

[jolly jasper]

finally got it, and died to a turret shooting through the elevator box

[hot storm]

you weren't lying when you said you were very unlucky, huh

[fiery fossil]

💀

[narrow fossil]

I'll fix the elevator, but i won't add any stairs. I don't want to be able to carry two handed items without a apparatus

[jolly jasper]

if you get an apparatus once, is it normal that every other time you visit a moon the elevator is at the bottom with the doors shut?

[narrow fossil]

It's a bug and I just updated the fixed version

[jolly jasper]

is shrimp rare? i don't know the spawn weight for everything else so i cannot tell.

[fiery fossil]

whats the spawn cap for shrimp

[primal sail]

I think it's 1.

I've never encountered more than that so far

[torpid sable]

how do i get in the lc office map

or i mean the office themed interior

[kind hound]

i've seen two shrimps before on experimentation when i bumped the spawn weight really high i think, but i've also noticed through advanced company that for some reason shrimp can only spawn on experimentation, the weight is set to 0 on any other moon, vanilla or modded, despite the configs having him set to spawn on other moons too, not sure if this is a bug or a mod conflict or what but thought it was worth mentioning

[wispy dagger]

stupid question, but what does shrimp do?

haven't played that other game

[shrewd dagger]

I havent played that game either, but for this mod itself, it basically follows you when they found you, and you have to like keep feeding any scrap you have before they get angry every time if you wait long enough

[wispy dagger]

and if i don't he kills me?

[shrewd dagger]

yes, he kills you quite fast, like i never got able to counter him 😭

[wispy dagger]

ah

[tardy urchin]

@narrow fossil The latest version that is in thunderstore, is excellent, I finally have 60 stable fps 😄
I saw that they changed some rooms, they have the lights off which is great to be scary.
The only thing I found in the 3 days I went to the planet was that I put LC_office, I only found this bug.
so I think the mod would be completely completed.
unless you want to add new things

[narrow fossil]

glad to hear it!
currently planned are:
Shrimp configuration addition and balance adjustment,
door model replacement,
and Item spawn fix.

[zenith garden]

Anyone here know how to calculate a weighted randoms pool to percentages? Or whatever the term is like converting weights to percentages so I can visually see what are the chances of spawning every interior?

[narrow fossil]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k7me3XlweXByhgCFS7GzsHOEPaJEzHD94dtI63NdBfI/edit?usp=sharing
its an out of date, but it might be helpful

[zenith garden]

👍

Oh

I just understood

I’m so dumb lmao

I was wondering why is you had weight 1 at 300 and weight 2 at 300 is was 50%, then weight 2 at 100 it was suddenly 25% but it’s because it’s based on the total value of all the weights

Lmao

[narrow fossil]

LC_Office v1.0.3

ᶠᶦˣᵉᵈ · ᶜʰᵃⁿᵍᵉᵈ

• Fixed an issue with overlapping start rooms.

• Shrimp has been nerfed:

• Shrimp will no longer follow players when he determine that he cannot follow player.

• Increased overall hunger reduction when eating item.

ᴵᵗ ᵐᵃʸ ᵗᵃᵏᵉ ᵃ ʷʰᶦˡᵉ ᵗᵒ ᵇᵉ ᵛᶦᵉʷᵉᵈ ᵒⁿ ᵀʰᵘⁿᵈᵉʳˢᵗᵒʳᵉ·

[primal sail]

I really don't understand the Shrimp :/

I gave it an item. I was trying to feed it every few seconds after that, but it didn't eat the items.

Then it's stomach was growling and it attacked me...

[narrow fossil]

you only need to feed it when its stomach is growling

[primal sail]

It didn't take the item when it started growling 🤷

[sleek widget]

I assume the bug that made the lift always be down after the first day is fixed?

[narrow fossil]

you dropped the item infront of it after you heard it’s stomach growling?

[shrewd dagger]

it might be a bug from the bug...

[tiny wave]

Is anyone experiencing a bug with apparatus here?

Can't tell which one of my mods is causing it but grabbing the apparatus does nothing but fill up my inv slots, can't drop apparatus and taking it out didn't even do the whole radiation thing with lights out

[narrow fossil]

thats fixed bug

[narrow fossil]

I think it might be a bug

[primal sail]

Yes

[narrow fossil]

regardless of his condition, drop items around him and he goes to eat them

[primal sail]

He only took one 🤷

After killing me it ate my items though 🤔

[narrow fossil]

there's a bug and he picks up the item you dropped, he'll only want that item

[tiny wave]

Thx, can't update any mods rn so needed to know which one to disable xd

[dawn adder]

Do the rooms have decorations

Like desks and stuff

Idk

[cold river]

Yeah I saw that too, I shidded my pants when the elevator violently dropped, I thought it was normal but apparently not lol

[rugged vault]

yes

its 99999

[grand nimbus]

You might find this helpful

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T2wzTUHbQfy1O8e0B20XglbPA87ZCX6UPG2SY0fp-YE/edit?usp=drivesdk

The visualization is at the top, and the weights per moon are below that

This is for my modpack, but you can make a copy of the spreadsheet and put in your own values

[cold river]

Oh this is amazing thank you so much

It’ll be so helpful for my modpack

[grand nimbus]

No problem!

[placid ferry]

Hopefully someone makes a moon that’s really fitting for the office :)

So far my favorite to pair it with is acidir

[cold river]

Thanks for the idea! It did fairly well

[sacred ibex]

perfect, link? i give it a like and perhaps a sub :)

[novel flame]

how do I move rows (down to disabled) without recking all formulas in google spreadsheets? 🫠

[grand nimbus]

You probably can just delete them by right clicking the leftmost part of the screen where the row is. If you move it down to disabled and it breaks, just open up the graph and set its range back to only the top to bottom of the area

If you're having trouble you can also send me a link and I'll see if I can help

[novel flame]

Thanks. Guess I'm just used to Excel. I

'll try that. Thanks for the sheet btw. it's very handy!

[grand nimbus]

No problem! I'm glad people are getting use out of it

[grand nimbus]

From my play they've been pretty balanced. I can't use AC as id have to add it to the pack, and then my configs would break other people's. However, LLL will get an update letting users modify both, so when that's out I may do some balance changes. If you have anything specific you think should be changed, lemme know!
My current only change would be to increase the scrap on Scarlet Devil Mansion a bit, but I capped its size already so I'm hoping that's enough

[narrow fossil]

thats cool 👍

[grand nimbus]

Thanks :D

It's for my modpack

I'm glad Office got to 1.0 cause I've been looking to add it for a while

[umbral roost]

You and me both ;-;

[bronze depot]

has this been addressed by any chance?

[placid ferry]

I think you can configure shrimp now?

[hot storm]

you're too lucky, go gamble

[placid ferry]

. He has been nerfed though

[bronze depot]

is it messing with lethaleditor also changing shrimps spawn weight? i mean they both set the exact same weight tho..

[bronze depot]

yes but nothing concerning it's spawn weight

[hot storm]

i mean, a weight of 2 wouldn't say it is impossible to get him twice in a row. as i said, you could've just gotten lucky/unlucky with the spawns

doesn't mean something's messing with the spawn weights

[bronze depot]

hm okay
it was just too unlikely for me

[sharp cosmos]

my favorite is Kast

[tardy urchin]

@narrow fossil the latest version 1.0.3
It has this error and the fps drops returned.

[balmy stirrup]

Piggy could you please re-add the staircase that was to the left in the starting room for 1: monster pathfinding reaching main entrance doors, and 2: a way up/down incase the elevator has an issue, or your just a chad and perfer the stairs

maybe the elevator malfunctioning could be a feature and you would have to use stairs

(random chance)

[grand nimbus]

Piggy said a bit earlier that they won't readd it since it lets you take two-handed scrap out

[loud barn]

What if the stairs had a door with keypad that needed to be powered by an 2 apparatuses

That way you can take some from you ship to unlock the stairs

[graceful wharf]

Can't they just be stairs with no ladder?

[grand nimbus]

?

[last wing]

piggy can you make it so all the loot only spawns in the elevator and the apparatus is right there in the entrance so i dont have to play the game

[balmy stirrup]

you can do that anyways

you can bring two handed scrap up the elevator

[grand nimbus]

Right

but if the elevator is out you can use the ladder

which won't work with two handed scrap

so if you pull the apparatus you have to be careful about your route

[balmy stirrup]

i mean you could just install betterladder mod and make it so you can bring two handed scraps up ladders

just saying

[grand nimbus]

Yeah if you want

But thats about game balance IMO

like a walkie slot

[balmy stirrup]

im just saying it should be added so monsters can pathfind to the exit

its just too safe up there

[grand nimbus]

I do think monsters pathfinding to the exit is good

[balmy stirrup]

theres litlary no danger in main entrance

[grand nimbus]

maybe Masked being able to use the elevator?

[balmy stirrup]

yeah but modded things that need to reach the exit to "escape" the facility cant cause they cant reach main entrance

unless they coded to escape thru fire exitsd

so it ruins things like scp-096

which cant follow you outside

he just wimpers liek a child at the bottem of the elevator

and you can just sit up there and he cant get you

and for a scp that supossidly cannot be hindered on getting to your location, that seems kinda not lore accurate

maybe add a secret route only ai can path up

or better yet

generate more facility at the starting floor level

so you have facility at the top floor, and a lower facility at the lower floor

that way monsters can spawn up where the elevator is

and then its up to rng to decide if there is a staircase down

and then there wouldent be a 100% gaurentee there is a staircase

and also you wouldent know where the staircase is even if it did generate

hell

[sacred ibex]

@cold river what is your youtube channel? and does the video already got 1k views? haha, it blows up on the official server

[balmy stirrup]

if you want to add some extra spice, make the office that is level with the starting room have a diffent color theme than the lower floor

that way you got a upper and lower office that are visually diffrent

and can ocasionall connect with stairs

but the elevator is guarrenteed

[cold river]

Just linked it to my discord and yea it's doing pretty good! Nearly 2k views lol

[narrow fossil]

In the future i'll allow monsters to enter elevators, but they will not move along with the elevator(like ships).
I don't like the spawn kill thingy in vanilla LC. It would be best to think of the elevator as simply a entrance that prevents spawn kills.

If someday the path to the elevator becomes more complicated, I might consider it, but for now I'm not sure.

and I think if someone takes apparatus, there has to be a corresponding risk involved

[tribal holly]

Yo the new icon slaps

[balmy stirrup]

multiple mods allready do that like facility meltdown or diversity, diversity has a feature that makes the bracken hunt you down if you take the aparatus, theres also mods that spawn loads of enimes if you take aparatus

one even makes the facility fill with poision gas if i remembber

[gray wyvern]

I personally like Facility Meltdown with LethalResonanceMeltdown

[balmy stirrup]

also getting spawn killed is physically impossible if you dont use brutal company

without brutal monsters take like 3-5 mins to spawn in

maybe add a staircase but make it so the top and bottem door is locked so you need two keys

then there is some cost to it

finding two keys

[last wing]

getting killed at the front door is totally possible w/o brutal company. also you should probably learn to take no as an answer lol

[grand nimbus]

Thanks :D

Closing in on the big 10k downloads

[sinful remnant]

does this mod work with mulriplayer rn and not crush fps?

will hsot a friend thing tonight and gotta make sure its all good

[nova spoke]

Just checking in to see if we still have to choose between Meltdown and LC_office?

[hallow ingot]

I'm pretty sure it says they're compatible on the mod's website

[balmy stirrup]

also please make a way to disable the elevator music

[nova spoke]

Testing last night we were getting locked in the elevator

[narrow fossil]

fixed in 1.0.2

[nova spoke]

You rock!

[hallow ingot]

Strange, it worked for me. I just stuck the apparatus in the elevator slot and took it out once the doors had opened at the top

Awesome

[narrow fossil]

k ill add config later

[heady sigil]

brutal company the beasts inside after dunununuh bmm mmm mmm mm hhh danananana - what i remember from real elevator music

[hallow ingot]

The fire exit is still downstairs, isn't it? Can't they just exit through there?

[wicked needle]

SCP-096 will leave the fire exits in a future update so don't worry

[rancid lintel]

I've had an issue where the elevator will start at the bottom and will not open (or come back up), even if the apparatus is taken out

[sleek widget]

a friend had an issue with the interior not loading at all, causing him to fall to his death once entered

[frail dove]

probably not synced properly

[unborn bay]

please add list functionality like other interiors i beg you

[sinful remnant]

does this mod still cause fps drops?

[prisma turret]

Not anymore I believe

[clear smelt]

are the default weights normal or am i just getting really unlucky with having no shrimps spawn?

i've played about a month in-game and haven't ran into a single shrimp

[zenith garden]

I’ve seen one spawn naturally so far in 6 hours

Our office chance is 30%

[unborn bay]

shrimp is REAL rare

[sleek widget]

just increase the chance in the config

[fiery fossil]

default weight for shrimp is 5 iirc which is abysmally low
you're more likely to find a coilhead on vow than to find shrimp

[balmy stirrup]

yeah but what if the ai insists on going to the inacessable main entrance because its "closer"

[wicked needle]

I dunno I'm sure Jasper is gonna have something in place if it can't path to the closest exit, go ask mod dev 😅

[shadow cave]

breaker is on, apparatus hasnt been taken out, why doesnt the elevator work

[narrow fossil]

bug

[shadow cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1033387419388629093.webp?size=48&name=catCry&quality=lossless

also feels like that scrap modifiers for diff moons dont work? i got office scrap on rend that costed like 10-20

[narrow fossil]

idk anything about scrap price or spawn count is done by the moon not interior

[shadow cave]

weird then

also is the office supposed to be dark if the breaker is off?

or no

if it is then im getting ones with broken elevators but lights are working

[steep drift]

Just +1ing this; causes massive lag and potential crashes, love this mod my fav interior by far but I can't use it until this is fixed lol

[solid quail]

regretevate

[sacred ibex]

imagine a pink shrimp names miss piggy lmao jk

[shadow cave]

i also think snatchin' bracken is broken on lc office if anyone's wondering

or bracken ai overall cant really say for sure

i was kiting him in the apparatice room and when he caught me he couldnt move

[unreal epoch]

uhhh

is that a thing?

went thru the fire exit and it was office

the entrance doesn't exist or what

the whole map is just 2 rooms, i think it's because of AC's dungeon size setting

[sacred ibex]

you see, it is never a problem if you just use lc office or with whatever it is compatible with, if you add more than lc office, then any other problem comes from there

[primal sail]

That's from a different mod than LC_Office.

Not sure why it wouldn't allow you to go inside though 🤔

[unreal epoch]

i think that might be dungeon size from AdvancedCompany

it was set to 0.7

when i set it to 1 it's normal again

[primal sail]

Wasn't there a warning that values below 1 can cause issues or something? 🤔

[unreal epoch]

it didnt work in LethalUtilities but it works in AC and the map is smaller

[unreal epoch]

maybe it's because the fire exit wasn't connected to the rest of the office

[sacred ibex]

whenever i start a lobby it never has such issues

disable all mods beside lc office make a new save and try again

if the same problem occurs again, then it is a problem

[unborn saffron]

it's not a mod thing, that's when an entrance isn't generated I believe

can happen if an error occurred while generating the interior

@narrow fossil I just got the max shadows error that drops the fps down going to March, but the good news is I'm testing it out with portal occlusion culling and that seems to prevent the error spam

so maybe spawning all those lights will still be a possibility (assuming that's the issue)

no wonder it's spamming the error lol that's a lot of lights

looks like my fps when not looking in the direction of those lights goes from maybe an average of 80 up to 130 with portal occlusion culling

[unreal epoch]

yeah

main entrance is the first thing that generates tho

i think

i might be wrong

[unborn saffron]

I believe so, yeah

so I guess it is odd if the fire exit was working

[balmy stirrup]

riddle me this batman

explain why if the aparatus is unplugged the elevator dosent work

but

if the power is simply turned off from the breaker

the elevator works just fine

[primal sail]

Not sure if it has been reported already, but for some reason if you pull the apparatus on the office interior the elevator will turn off permanently.

Even though a new run has a new apparatus

[unreal epoch]

you can plug the apparatus into the elevator socket to get it to work again

you can unplug as you reach the main entrance door

[tiny wave]

Yeah but the elevator starts off on a new moon even though the apparatus was taken from a previous moon, sure you can use the ladder but a big part of the aesthetic is the elevator

[rancid lintel]

that is what recently happened to me #1196943144009351258 message

[unreal epoch]

oh that's what you meant, sorry

[primal sail]

Oh, okay ^^

Before actually removing LC Office to test with my friends tomorrow, I want to ask this question:
Could LC Office be the issue of non-host players entering a glitched state as soon as they pull the apparatus?

(This happens on any interior, not just the office one)

[grand nimbus]

I've been playing a few rounds in the Office on Experimentation, and in every round so far I've only found one scrap in the whole building

Is the interior just a bad fit for Experimentation or would this be an error?

[primal sail]

I think it might be a bad fit.

The interior is huge and scrap seems scattered one by one if there are not many scrap items, which is usually the case on experimentation 🤔

[unborn saffron]

@narrow fossil just saw this navmesh stuck spot when a bracken was trying to sneak up on me lol

not sure if that's something you can tweak or not

[storm zephyr]

ok so im having a headache with this mod

im just gonna copypaste this

the game loads just fine with it but i cannot join another friend's lobby (error occurred), who has the exact same copy and pasted mod setup as me excluding client side mods

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1203422374037295235/1203424227521335296/image.png?ex=65d10b26&is=65be9626&hm=7b778a1bae8bcdbb4691307927ed89fd582f96472595d88e9dee02b8382da710&

[hard ginkgo]

Stupid question, is this a whole custom interior or is used in the base interior?

I wanna see if it would have some issues with other custom interior mod

[grand nimbus]

It's a whole custom interior

[storm zephyr]

this isnt a separate planet right its just like the deal with the mansion and facility

[grand nimbus]

Yeah

[hard ginkgo]

Gotcha cool

[storm zephyr]

i dont get the issue im having

[grand nimbus]

I've been using it with several other custom interiors and it works fine

[hard ginkgo]

good to know!

[grand nimbus]

If you're both using a mod launcher (which I recommend), try exporting your profile as a code and having them import it

that should give you an exact copy

[hard ginkgo]

I know one of the main issue my group has is the interior gets a bit repetitive so, been looking for mods like this Also suprised someone was able to salvage the elevator asset from Beta LC

[storm zephyr]

i am not using a mod launcher, is there a manual way to do it?

we simply copypasted the plugins folder

[grand nimbus]

Not really

[hard ginkgo]

honestly just use the mod launcher

[grand nimbus]

youll need the same configs and same mod list

[grand nimbus]

Yeah

[hard ginkgo]

R2modman is so much easier

[grand nimbus]

mod launchers save you so much time and effort

You could try ModlistHashChecker

it wont help the connection if there's something wrong, but you'll at least know that your mod list doesn't match

[wary mirage]

Is this still on beta? I found the mod on thunderstore, but i didnt have [beta] on te title

[hard ginkgo]

it sure is

[grand nimbus]

it went into full release a few days ago

but its still a bit buggy

[grand nimbus]

MoreInteriors has a Bunker, Scoopy's Variety Mod has a dungeon and a sewer, SCP Laboratory has the SCP facility, ScarletDevilMansion has a cool mansion alternative, and of course there's this mod

[hard ginkgo]

We tried Scoopy, issue we had was the Dungeon is a bit too dark and the sewers hellish to navigate lol

[grand nimbus]

When did you try the Dungeon? It got an update adding more lights a few days ago

[hard ginkgo]

we did it yesterday

[wary mirage]

There is also welcome to oolbterra but its still on beta in discord, its not on thunderstore

[grand nimbus]

ah, then it probably hasn't been changed

[storm zephyr]

ok i just copied over all of his configs that aren't client side mods

and it still didn't work

[hard ginkgo]

but yeah I'll give this one a go

[storm zephyr]

shit

[hard ginkgo]

looks fun

also the bunker

[grand nimbus]

The bunker is the best one out IMO

ScarletDevilMansion is super underrated too

[wary mirage]

The bunker feels the most fleshed out by this point yeah

Havent tried office with friends, but at first glance it feels kinda bland?, but it is still on beta so idk, plus i only tried it once solo lol

Oh wait, nvm its full release haha, still gotta get a full experience with friends

[gentle galleon]

Kinda hoping down the line that more "office" like furniture gets added to the dungeon.

[grand nimbus]

Agreed

the current tileset is good, but it needs a few more

I'd like to see one or two big / multilevel rooms

The Stanley Parable would be good to take inspiration from

[gentle galleon]

OHHHH

[grand nimbus]

just one or two warehouse rooms / important guy room would already add a ton to it

[gentle galleon]

Ya know how the castle dungeon has the throne room for it apparatus room?

COuld have an office version where you have a server room or something.

[grand nimbus]

good idea

[gentle galleon]

Get a lil Payday 2 in our LC.

[shadow cave]

had the same thing innnnnnn apparatice room

[wary mirage]

Yeah i saw a lack of furniture or something, considering that this is the office from the upturned where the gimmick relies on the furniture itself (idk havent played it), the rooms and corridors look empty compared to the vanilla facility

This just needs some variation and "filling" to the rooms

[hard ginkgo]

Whats the config name for this btw?

I tried looking for "office, LC_office" but couldnt find it

or is there no configs yet

nvm I just needed to launch the game

[storm zephyr]

yeah the mod works fine on its own

but i cannot join friends

nor can they join me

[storm zephyr]

well atleast it works solo

is shrimp rare

[cold river]

I don’t know if it has been said, but the elevator behaves very weirdly when powered by the apparatus. It goes up for some players and stays down for others, it gets stuck up or down, the doors sometimes get stuck too and the elevator sometimes quickly teleports up or down. I’ve also noticed that while the players are in the elevator, they also exist right next to the ship for some reason? And anyone close can hear the discussions they’re having in the elevator

Again, if those issues are already known, I’m sorry for the annoyance

[sacred ibex]

its better to pushout any issue multiple times instead of just once, where it goes forgotten, master yoda

[formal flame]

Yo - I know everyone is spamming this chat with suggestions asnd stuff and it's because it's a sick mod. Love your MaskedAiRevamp too. The only thing I wish this had was more config customization with where the interior appears. Like if I want it to be guaranteed on one moon, then have it only be a 50/50 chance on another.

[bronze depot]

yay this mod made it into this series :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJS5NK-Fy3Y

[mossy ivy]

cool

[unreal epoch]

hello, question, do you guys also have issues with the elevator sync in multiplayer lobby?

[topaz pumice]

@narrow fossil alright facility meltdown 2.2 should no longer spawn 4 shrimps 💀

[vague acorn]

why not, why no 4 shrimp :C

[topaz pumice]

cause it breaks them

• meltdown could also spawn like 3 brackens on you

[vague acorn]

but 4 shrimp are cool

just look at them little fellers

[gray wyvern]

Is the elevator music an actual song or was it made specifically for this pack?

[unreal epoch]

https://youtu.be/HnBxnO4WB9s?si=MfhlDzkyVf1PqUQZ

it's an actual song

[gray wyvern]

Yess thank you. I fucking love the elevator music

[brave dirge]

is current version stable enough where its actually playable during normal runs?

[unreal epoch]

i had some issues with the elevator sync with other players, that's about it

[tiny wave]

Yes, I've tested runs with it with friends and it's worked amazingly well, you will come across issues with the elevator, but nothing that will stop you from playing the interior

[brave dirge]

so there is a possibility that we all will get stuck in an elevator?

[tiny wave]

No

Well maybe, but not that I've seen

My problem with elevator is that after the first time you take the apparatus out from a moon, the elevator will start off being shut down at the bottom so you'll have to use the ladder to go up and down

[unreal epoch]

yeah, other person has to use the elevator buttons to get someone out, ladder can be useful for that case

or a fire exit

[tiny wave]

If you find the apparatus you can just put it inside the elevator apparatus slot so it starts working again

Fire exits work normally too so yeh

[shadow cave]

OH THAT'S WHAT IT IS

Damn

[brave dirge]

ok thanks 🙂

[gray wyvern]

Just listened and that doesn’t seem to be the one I’m thinking of

[unreal epoch]

huh

wdym?

it's the same one but without any filters

[gray wyvern]

Aren’t there 2 different elevator songs that play?

Or am I imagining smth

I’ll have to go back and check rq

[unreal epoch]

uhhh

[grand nimbus]

does anyone know if the elevator issue happens every time?

[unreal epoch]

@grand nimbus i believe that might be the cause of it happening

but everytime idk

i know that my friend had trouble with the elevator, that's about it

[gray wyvern]

Where would I find the audio files from the mod

[unreal epoch]

i believe that the audio files are in the form of unity assets

[gray wyvern]

It's in the lethalresonance folder?

[brave dirge]

that would be easier

[brave dirge]

yes

[unreal epoch]

elevator music in lethalresonance folder?

[gray wyvern]

odd

[brave dirge]

what am i yapping about

im sorry

[unreal epoch]

this is lc_office thread lmao

[brave dirge]

forgot in what chat i am currently

😭

[gray wyvern]

lmfao

[brave dirge]

my bad

[gray wyvern]

was gonna say that's kinda odd for it to be in lethal resonance

[unreal epoch]

don't worry

[gray wyvern]

i'll have to enable the guaranteed spawn and clip the song i'm thinking of

wtf, it's not even playing the song i had in mind

oh wait no it's on now

[unreal epoch]

and...? is it the same one that i sent earlier?

[gray wyvern]

nope

that one played first

then it switched to the one i'm thinking of

i'll upload a clip of it really quick

it seems to rotate through various songs. I only thought there were 2

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1TcZPwt7X76Hjo/d1337SGubEHI

[unreal epoch]

oh

never realized that there were a couple of em

didn't play that mod long enough i guess

[gray wyvern]

yea if you sit by the elevator, it just rotates through various songs. Idk how many there actually are, but I heard 3 in the time I sat there

[unreal epoch]

no idea what the song is, tried looking through the REGRETEVATOR OST but didnt find anything

[gray wyvern]

same here lmao

[unreal epoch]

that's what the dev of this mod sent

as a response to the question about the song

[gray wyvern]

I tried putting it through a song detector and it didn't recognize it

[shrewd dagger]

I haven't tested this interior with my friends for some time, but is it that when you enter the elevator with your friends, you can't see and hear them while in the elevator?

or there's other issues?

[unreal epoch]

I have no idea how to explain this, but to put it simply, the elevator position sometimes isn't synchronized (for one player the elevator can be upstairs, for the other one downstairs), I think the bugged player also cannot use the elevator buttons and it behaves like it was lacking power (apparatus pulled out)

i really don't want to make assumptions but i think that's what is happening

[clear smelt]

i was able to see and talk with friends in the elevator

but i had another issue

i took the apparatus and we all made our way towards the elevator because the facility was melting down from #1191847266777042985

when we got in i rushed to put the apparatus in the elevator slot so we could go back up
after we reached ground floor i took the apparatus out of the slot and ran out the building
sprinting back to the ship, i looked behind me and it turns out that my friends weren't there

for them, the elevator doors had closed after I took the apparatus of the slot and they were trapped in the elevator waiting for their eventual death to the meltdown explosion

[unborn bay]

the vents being rotated incorrectly hasn't been fixed it seems

[unreal epoch]

ive encountered rotated vents in server room

[wicked needle]

@narrow fossil Finally got to play the tileset and it is amazing, seriously good work! We had a problem with the apparatus though, it was like things weren't synced up between the players

I had pulled the apparatus from the machine and went to the elevator, upon getting there I couldn't put it into the elevator, I was host in this game but when my friend turned up he was able to but the elevator wouldn't function for either of us, I also couldn't see the apparatus placed into the elevator power bank but he could, he could still take it out though

[unborn bay]

friend got inverse teleported into the main entrance pit

also elevator had no power at the start and there was a ghost apparatus outside, unsure if the ghost apparatus is caused by office or the elevator problem is caused by ghost apparatus

[wicked needle]

Also would it be possible to have a per moon configuration for dungeon weight? I know the other interiors have it and I'd love to see this on some specific moons more

[unborn bay]

have confirmed: ghost apparatus only occurs when the office layout is there

ghost apparatus is caused by office

[gray wyvern]

Is it on a custom moon or one of the vanilla moons?

[unborn bay]

nevermind, with office layout at 0 chance it still occurs on vanilla interior

[gray wyvern]

weird

[scarlet umbra]

its the meltdown mod

its incompatible with LC_Office right now

[unborn bay]

so it goes

[gray wyvern]

Really? I use the meltdown mod with this interior in my pack and I’ve never had that issue

The apparatus has always kept its normal behavior for me

[topaz pumice]

its either more interiors or lc office. lc office does a lot more with the apparatus than meltdown does lol so ofc its going to be a bit more error prone

[scarlet umbra]

which mod was this?

having the same issue but i assumed it was just a net problem

[scarlet umbra]

yea the new update broke multiplayer with a few mods

check the thread for the mod here

#1191847266777042985 message

ah must be something else then

i need to get better at reading unity/bepinex logs

[willow shard]

yo yo i just tested out this mod so i know nothing about it

do i need the aparatus for the elevator to work ?

because it won't work for me and i see the apparatus shape thing in the elevator

[willow shard]

so i need the apparatus for it to work ?

[narrow fossil]

If you take the spawned apparatus from the interior, yes

[willow shard]

oh ight so i dont even need to put it in the elevator ?

just take it out

[mortal epoch]

The socket is in the case you pull the apparatus from the interior and still want to leave the normal exit with 2h items

Otherwise you're forced to forgo the items and use the ladder
Or find the Fire Escape(s)

[willow shard]

i dont get it

nevermind im just white i get it now

sick ass interior tho

didnt the guy say he was gonna work on a moon to go with it

[unborn bay]

i don't think that was ever said

[sweet tinsel]

Getting chased by the Thumper in this interior is a thrill ngl

[bronze depot]

@narrow fossil what actually happened to the elevator? since a certain update (cant remember which one) the elevator kinda jiggled/twitched when going. it was smoother before

[narrow fossil]

I haven't done anything

actually elevator originally had that bug, but iirc that it didn't happen often when frame drops occurred

[idle linden]

so the mod optimization is the cause?

[kind hound]

even with only the office mod installed, i still can't seem to get shrimp to spawn on any map other than experimentation, even when putting the weights in the config up really high, is anyone else having this issue?

[gray wyvern]

Oh that explains it. I haven’t updated meltdown since I have another mod that uses it as dependency and I wasn’t sure if updating would break that mod or not

[cold river]

I have never seen them

And I’ve played maybe 7-8 hours with LC Office

[unborn bay]

shrimp's chances do seem to be broken on any moon aside from experimentation

[vapid patio]

If I just use LC shrimp and disable the officde, will issues with the apperatus still possibly appear

[restive karma]

Does the elevator not sync for players currently I haven't seen anyone speak about it but the behavior of the elevator was really weird

Also control company and shrimp causes an unusual issue where you can spawn in a snare flea that is shrimp and also are forever trapped

[deft tapir]

I'm getting the sync issue with the elevator. Sometimes it works and sometimes we're all trapped inside the elevator but atleast half/all are seeing something different. Instead we just find the fire exit, or if the elevator is down we take the ladder instead. ATLEAST we can play on there now.

[shrewd dagger]

I'm definitely waiting for it to be stable before playing with others 🥺 ... seems still a lot of issues with multiplayers

[deft tapir]

Atleast everyone can see the shrimp now, that ones most important. It feels like loot is quite scarce on that interior and configurations are showing up on paid moons for some reason and it's only free moons. 🤷

[mortal epoch]

Yeah I did notice the loot density is, poor

[zenith garden]

Same for me, just use the list configuration and input the name of the 5 free moons manually

[mortal epoch]

Did some runs of Experimentation and my kept generating with like 3 - 5 scrap total, despite the vanilla minimum for the place to be 8 🤔

[deft tapir]

yeah going to have to now. Thanks!

[mortal epoch]

So unless Shrimp just magically eats all the scrap it comes across (speaking rhetorically, that's not a behavior I've seen the Shrimp do just for context), then idk why it ends up to be abnormally low

[shrewd dagger]

I do agree the loot is quite low

just tested it too

[novel flare]

every modded interior struggles with this for some reason....

[tepid wind]

Yeah im gonna look into this when we handle dungeon documentation

i think it might be a navmesh issue

[novel flare]

it also may be the way the people are just setting it up

I found halfing the size multiplier in the scp dungeon config

fixed all loot issues for me

[tepid wind]

possibly

for context the way scrap is spawned in lc is it goes through each scrap spawn transform, rolls to see if and what scrap it gets and finds a random spot on the navmesh in like a 8 metre sphere radius

and puts it there

[shrewd dagger]

Definitely would rather for this to be fixed itself, cause changing config yourself would need all the other players to have the same config to avoid desync, if I'm not mistaken which is annoying

[novel flare]

yea I was just mentioning

with profile codes assuring everybody has the same configs is easy'

[tepid wind]

thank you you've just reminded me about something i didnt think about that woulda broke shit

[solid quail]

this is a song from nicosnextbots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNHC_efucwo

:p

[mortal epoch]

Unfortunately I don't believe Office interior does NOT allow you to adjust the size multiplier, config just lists it's balanced around Titan but p sure this is just copied over from the older iterations of SCP Interior's config

[gray wyvern]

Holy shit dude thank you so much

[solid quail]

np !

[shrewd dagger]

I agree, unfortunately for my case I always add my own bloated client-side mods that they might not want to have, so that's why sharing codes is kinda hard for me lolll

[balmy stirrup]

Bug Report I cannot scan the aparatus as host on other map interiors, and also other players cant see the aparatus on other map interiors if they arnt host, and the ship does not register the aparatus from other map interiors as loot

@narrow fossil

also pullint out aparatus makes missing texture partical effects

like pink particals

[novel flare]

what does this have to do with office

all of the things you stated were happening on other inteirors

[woven jasper]

hello I have a question

how often one can find the office interior in a moon?

[deft tapir]

@woven jasper there's a slider in the edit configurations file. With 300 at 50% chance i believe. It's also bugged so it spawns on every map (including modded). I had spawn in infernis moon with normal configurations and its only allowed on Free moons.

[bitter lily]

What does putting the apparatus in the elevator do?

[tawny panther]

allow it to run when you unplug the facilities apparatus

[bitter lily]

Ah ok

[primal sail]

If I recall correctly, there's a separate option for modded moons

[steady pivot]

has there been a bug report on items just despawning from inventory after finishing a level with Office? Like I would have a shovel on me and/or a flashlight and when orbiting the item's picture are still there, but I'm actually not holding anything.

[shadow cave]

oh, I had that happen to me, didn't know it was because of office

[primal sail]

Oh, I actually had the same issue once!

But it was so rare, that I couldn't check which mod causes this behaviour 🤔

[bronze depot]

can you set decimals like 0.6 for the spawn weight for the shrimp?

[topaz pumice]

no unless this uses a different system

most weights are based on a "lottery" system where the higher the weight the higher chance it is to get picked

so a weight of 5 means there is 5 chances for it to be picked

[bronze depot]

i know how weights work but i just wanna lower the one for the shrimp as i still face it too often for my taste

[unborn bay]

it's like a spawn weight of 2 on experimentation and seems to not be able to spawn anywhere else, what do you mean you see it too often

[bronze depot]

"seems to not be able to spawn anywhere else"? wdym?
yea 2 is low but still its too often for that value
almost every second/third round

[gray wyvern]

I have the weights on default and I’ve never seen shrimp once

[sacred ibex]

his spawn is rare

[narrow fossil]

I have the default weights multiplied by 5 and I’ve never seen shrimp once

[sacred ibex]

a youtuber had this problem and it took him almost 30 tries to find shrimp

depends on the moon too

on eclipsed he spawns faster

[narrow fossil]

so you're saying

I should multiply his weights by 50

/s

[sacred ibex]

i believe the maker of this mod can help you better there

[steady pivot]

if u want, u can download Advanced Company, load the game once, quit back to menu, n then u should be able to configure shrimps spawn to 99999 in-game; that's how i kept spawning shrimp if you just wanna see him

[novel flare]

Ehh

If you really wanna see them just use a dev mode mod

And spanw them in

[steady pivot]

that too

he does drop ur frames if u hit him last time i checked tho

[narrow fossil]

I really want to download advanced company

I really want to

but it just does too much

[steady pivot]

if u need help/guidance for it i can IF u want no pressure i know its intimidating at first

[narrow fossil]

maybe

do you know of a list for advanced company incompatibilities

[steady pivot]

so far i know the reserved slots n hotbar plus are incompat

lemme get u the list

[sacred ibex]

you should do that in advancecompany thread or modding general sillys

[red coyote]

So I’m not the only one who hasn’t seen shrimp once

[novel flare]

Yea that’s my issue I would disable 90% of the mod

[sacred ibex]

its by default rare since he is kinda an Class S monster enemy

he like doesnt leave you alone and all that

[red coyote]

You can beat it with a shovel and it scampers off

[shadow cave]

is clients not being able to power the elevator a known issue?

[fresh depot]

Where is the "It's as Shrimpa as that" meme

Found it

[vapid zinc]

hey @narrow fossil

https://i.imgur.com/j0FyzAs.png

misplaced vents in server room

https://i.imgur.com/m6vu6Xh.png

and this thing is just flying in the air

[mortal epoch]

Seems to be some spots the game's thinking that those are walls when they're not, I think(?) that's the only room type where that issue is occurring from what I've seen

[brave dirge]

can someone explain how spawn weight works? if i want to make shrimp more common should i make it higher or lower than default?

[sinful remnant]

gotta say im very happy with the place this mod is in, and how much fun its been to play with the friend group
@narrow fossil thanks again for making this great mod!

[narrow fossil]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k7me3XlweXByhgCFS7GzsHOEPaJEzHD94dtI63NdBfI/edit?usp=sharing

[brave dirge]

thanks!

[rough rapids]

this also reminds me of the old lethal trailer with the elevators

[mortal epoch]

Apparatus is only needed if you pulled the Apparatus from the current layout

[rancid lintel]

Finally! I've been looking for a resource like this so I can balance my configs, thank you. 😂

[patent egret]

weird balancing tbh

am i the only one who thinks that lol

centipede is basically the same on experimentation and titan
i get that it gets rebalanced by the ghost girl tho

but why does it feel like you're just not getting enough of everything in vanilla

[novel flame]

You have to consider max enemy power as well which is higher on titan which will spawn/allow more monsters

[unborn bay]

i've checked, and shrimp seems to always have his spawn weight at 0 on other moons, no matter what you set in the config

[fierce crown]

if you're looking for an alternative to Advanced Company, there's something called Lethal Quantities. It takes ALOT of setup if you wanna get in depth with it and a fair bit of understanding, but it's extremely flexible when it comes to what can spawn where.

[steel viper]

any idea with this

and yes I did try and do the apparatus stuff

(this is the elevator control)

[narrow fossil]

is LethalNetworkAPI installed properly?

[steel viper]

I had it installed but just uninstalled and reinstalled

Still doesn’t work 😕

[steady pivot]

i get that sometimes if I finish a Office run and then I get Office again

[livid yoke]

the old performance issue is back?

i remember the performance was better after some update but that update broke the elevator 💀

[red coyote]

Is there going to be a way to configure the size of the office, since most times it’s endless empty hallways with like 5 pieces of scrap that are spread out like the infinity stones

[wicked needle]

I agree, it felt very very large with loot spread out a bit much

[red coyote]

I had similar issues with MoreInteriors bunker and Scoopy’s sewers

Reducing the max scale of them from 2 to something like 1.25 - 1.5 was a MUCH better experience

So you get an idea of the map, having it be large enough that you’re not done exploring by 2pm, dense enough to where you actually see anything other than a puffer spawn, while not getting jumped in a corner by 4 coilheads and 3 thumpers, and more importantly, you can actually reach the apparatus

[lyric apex]

Hey there fellas !
The mod is great, always love some more interiors. ButT this one has a flaw that is a bit annoying : we can't customise the rarity per moon like the others interiors mods do.

I have spent alot of time tweakin a modpack for my friends, would love to add this dungeon but as for now i can't since i am forced to have the same weigth on every moons enabled :C

[sweet tinsel]

Speaking of playing with friends.. Does CullFactory & LC_Office still clash? Mainly talking about the rendering issue

[fierce crown]

I can't speak for Advanced Company since I avoided it for all its extra content, but Lethal Quantities should allow you to modify the weight per moon if you learn how to use it.

[lyric apex]

yea but would be easier for people if its like the others (SCPFoundationDungeon, MoreInteriors, Scoopys_Variety_Mod, ScarletDevilMansion)

all of them have one more tag u can put as a parameter which is "list", and then in another parameter u must write a string with the moon internal name followed by the weight

like experimentation50,assurance20,titan999

or for some with a @ in betwenn

experimentation@50,assurance@20,titan@999

[echo pebble]

I see the option for scoopy's, but how do you do it for moreinteriors? I dont see the config option for it

[lyric apex]

?

[echo pebble]

I meant to change the actual size of the dungeon generation

[lyric apex]

oh the size... i don't mess with those, but at the bottom there is that

[wicked needle]

I second this, I'd love to customise this for certain moons 😭

[odd schooner]

2 questions. Is apparatus supposed to be out of elevator and is it supposed to spam this non-stop

[red coyote]

@echo pebble yea this is what I used, there is no min and max size but the config option works

[echo pebble]

Oh okay cool. What value did you put? Because I can't put decimals like 1.5

[red coyote]

Wym you can’t put decimals?

I put 1.5

[lyric apex]

in some places it's weird

it dosn't allow the "."

like if your doing it using LethalConfig, u have to use ","

@echo pebble

[red coyote]

I just use the config editor in thunderstorm

[lyric apex]

yea its safer

[past condor]

I've been having issues where the elevator works for the first time, then every subsequent visit to the office no longer has power to the elevator, even though I can confirm there are apparatuses that spawn in the dungeon. I also can't use any already retrieved apparatuses since the elevator doors are shut. Anyone else have issues like this?

[steel viper]

Is it showing this I’m also having similar problems

[forest niche]

you guys tried to reproduce the bug with the mod alone ? is it still doing it ?

[past condor]

I'll definitely try it when I get home. I'm thinking it's either a sync issue, but hopefully not a random 1/60 other mod that somehow is screwing it up, like better spray paint did one time

[forest niche]

ok, i tried solo with my modlist and it works, maybe something with another mod

or specific situation , desync ?

[steel viper]

Update on this uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times and still does not work

This goes for both API and LC_Office

[gray wyvern]

Is there a way to make it so the office interior is a guaranteed spawn on a specific moon?

I don't see an option to go above the 300 weight

[lyric apex]

@gray wyvern yea i suggested the feature that is already used by other dungeon mod there

[gray wyvern]

Ah ok so I'll have to use a seperate mod to add the rarities then

[sacred ibex]

haha this was funny

[dusty relic]

Hey, i really like the concept of this mod but there a few quirks that kind of put me off

these are all from a game design or visual appeal standpoint, and should be taken with a grain of salt

really apprectiate the work that went into this mod

Interior feels way too large

• compared to vanilla interiors like mansion or the industrial one, the interior just feels so... large and empty
• this could just be a lack of furniture in many rooms, but a lot of rooms by design are just extremely wide and open
• because of how large the rooms are, item spawns feel so dilluted. sometimes it takes ages to find 1 item when it takes seconds on the industrial map
• stamina consumption and travel times when navigating the map are marginally larger than other maps, often times i can run clear down 2-3 rooms and run out of stamina without running into any obstacles or obstructions that make the map more interesting
• this is also evident with the flights of stairs. these take FOREVER to go up or down, and if you find a dead end at the top it's just so tedious going ALL the way back down
• overall the size of the map makes looking for scrap a much more tedious task. the industrial map, for example, has large rooms and narrow hallways, all while incorporating side entrances, rooms, twists, and turns. the office map just feels like large room after large room and its a bit jarring to say the least

Elevator placement makes zero sense

• this is more so of a gripe specifically for the bottom section, but it doesnt make sense how the elevator is just in the center of a room with no support. there are 4+ elevator buttons on the bottom because of this, and it doesn't make sense.
• perhaps make it so the elevator is inside of a shaft similar to the top section (with a crouchable vent above the doorway in case you get stuck on top of the elevator, or need to use the ladder)
• since you used upturned as inspiration, maybe model it after that game's elevator?

Metal texturing is way too overused

• this texture is used a lot in the industrial interior but it is horizontal.
• this map uses this texture WAY too much, covering the ceiling, floors, and walls in an asthetically displeasing kind of way
• this is purely an opinion, but i feel like some breakup with metal beams or concrete (like the industrial interior), or making the texture horizontal instead of vertical could help

[dawn adder]

Yes

Agreed

It makes the map feel smaller

[dusty relic]

Elevator music is LOUD

• perhaps add a config that disables the music? or a "disable speaker" button similar to the ship
• literally cant hear my friends voice when inside the elevator, and i dont think it fits the game that well when you walk into the facility and start hearing blaring happy music

[dawn adder]

But the elevator placement is okay, i think that its like that so its more accessible

[dawn adder]

Yeah i feel like it should only be heard if ur in the same room as it

[dusty relic]

it could still have a "center room" format, but perhaps with some walls covering it

the elevator is just exposed and it makes 0 sense

1 cable is holding it up

[dawn adder]

Yeah i kinda thought that too

[dawn adder]

Its not gta why would that be a issue

Dont need that muh detail

[dusty relic]

Top part of the interior doesn't have any correlation to the "office" interior

• again, minor gripe
• perhaps make it similar to a office lobby/hotel lobby?

[dawn adder]

I like this one, i havent seen a computer at all

[dusty relic]

its basic realism, the cart is just hovering in the middle of the room without twisting or turning at all

when you notice it, it kind of breaks realism

[dawn adder]

I guess

[dusty relic]

in the trailer (the video that inspired the elevator in the first place), the elevator is clearly inside some kind of wall and isnt just exposed to the open air

theres no proper elevator "shaft" and it looks kinda wonky imo

[dawn adder]

Yeah that would make it harder to break immersion

[dawn adder]

Fr

[steel viper]

@narrow fossil could this be related to elevator not working?

[forest niche]

I agree with most of what you said but not these i like the feel of an office hidden inside a facility

[dusty relic]

this can work too but it just feels kind of unfinished, espeically with that one texture side room that has the computer

[astral latch]

Does the shrimp only spawn on the office maps or does it spawn on any moon you put it to? If it can spawn on any moon I would like an option to make it only spawn for the office maps

[gray wyvern]

I believe it only spawns on office

[dense bay]

nah, ive had it spawn in bunker (more interiors) and mansion, its dependent on the vanilla moons, not sure if @narrow fossil has implemented it so the lil shrimpy bastard can spawn on modded moons yet

[unreal epoch]

i really agree with you, I also want to point out that it's hard to get lost on this map, most of rooms have 2 entryways which makes figuring out the way back to the elevator very easy, the exploration of the map is kinda walking on a line that doesn't split in different directions

[steep drift]

it spawns on other maps

[crimson berry]

Yeah the music seems out of place ... dont really know how to put it any other way

[lyric apex]

well just simply a volume setting, and u could put it to zero

but it does fit the theme of the dungeon

[hushed raft]

Hello!

I wanted to report that elevator is out of sync.
Everything is fine except elevator being out of sync, for example if i enter elevator with my friend and i decide to push button to go down, friend stays with me in elevator, however when he exited it, he got teleported instantly to the entrence and told me that elevator didnt even moved. Same thing is with elevator going up, as well placing stuff inside of it or placing apparatus in slot.

We have same configs and no errors occured when playing.

[shadow cave]

had out of sync issues with powering on the elevator with an apparatice, seems to only work for the one who powers it

[sweet tinsel]

Does anyone know if this mod still hates CullFactory?

[crimson berry]

Yea it does

[sweet tinsel]

😔

Got a friend that lags very easily. Very unfortunate

[primal sail]

Sadly, I'm going to have to disable the Office Interior for now :/

Had really big issues with desyncs when it comes to the elevator, especially when trying to put in the apparatus.

Hope the problems are fixed soon, so I can re-enable it :3

[vapid patio]

cool

[patent egret]

^ really impressive layout

tbf its sooo big for experimentation but maybe i can fix

i think really its just because the hallways are long

i should probably check on a paid moon because that should be much bigger

anyway the maintanence ladder is an amazing touch

oh and i was gonna give maskedairevamp another shot

and i'm running this with about 103 mods or so

[patent egret]

hey honestly like large maps are a little laggy but

pathfindinglagfix was my lifesaver

and probably will help your friend too

[steel viper]

can anyone please help me with figuring out an elevator error?

[patent egret]

i mean also the house has no beds anywhere and the factory has no machinery

it has servers and it has plumbing clearly but no real machines lol

its a bit much to have gripes with the mods of a game that are at the bar of the game

[patent egret]

cullfactory looks really cool unfortunately also seems to be incompatible with most feature mods like helmet cams and this

[dusty relic]

a lot of "gripes" are just constructive criticism

yeah the mod dev isnt obligated to follow up with these changes but it also isnt right to completely denounce suggestions and stuff just because they "are already at the bar of the game"

[patent egret]

that's fair

[dusty relic]

theres room for improvement and at the end of the day its the devs decision to follow through

but we cant force them

[patent egret]

but if it's going to be called a gripe rather than a suggestion

[dusty relic]

so its just kind of suggestions in case they'd like to improve

[patent egret]

then that begs the question why would you be upset about a mod if its at the bar of the game its made for

[dusty relic]

its more so a minor gripe turned into a suggestion

[patent egret]

are you sure your mod is installed correctly?

[dusty relic]

because even if a mod is "high quality" production wise it can still have glaring design issues or areas that are lacking that can always be improved on

[steel viper]

I uninstalled both office and API and reinstalled them both each a few times

[dusty relic]

obviously the dev doesnt have to agree

but its just what people think

[steel viper]

I just did the same to levelloader

[patent egret]

seems like its kinda sticking up through the map lul

@narrow fossil

[patent egret]

errrr

do you have lethalnetworkapi

and odin serializer

[steel viper]

yes

and yes

[patent egret]

genuinely idk

but ima go in rn and check and see if i have an issue cause i just realized i didnt try it yet

[steel viper]

levelloader isnt the problem

anyone have any idea on what this means?

[shrewd dagger]

Tbh I liked it in a way 😩 cause it is an elevator after all, they always have that kind of music, and i feel like when im in the elevator i feel the comfort of actually being safe and finally out of the place when we're going out

[crimson berry]

I guess it would be better if the sounds echo'd through the doors outside to the main entrance

[unborn bay]

y'know, you would think a mod would be stable at its 1.0.0 release

[tall plinth]

nah welll its pretty stable. a couple bugs but theyre being worked on

[craggy sigil]

Definitely needs some size settings though, sizes are kinda crazy rn

[unborn bay]

eh. even without bugs, i wouldn't call it fully stable (mostly because of how goddamn big it is)

[candid finch]

Or more scrap spawns

[craggy sigil]

And the lack of loot on a map this size ^^;

[craggy sigil]

If you increase scrap spawns without tackling the size issue, you end up with scans of like 30,000 loot

Not a good idea

Size definitely needs to be tackled first

[tall plinth]

lack of loot is a configurable thing but happens when interiors are too big

Actually tbh i get the same problem on bunker but maybe thats just me :P

[candid finch]

Tbh most of the modded interiors feel like they are lacking loot

Scp is ok, bunker somewhat ok, sewer (same mod as bunker) feel like a hit and miss with the bit I tested, this one feels pretty hard to find even tho it looks like a easier one to find stuff

[unborn bay]

anyways some shrimp suggestions
Make them back up when you get too close, like they do in upturned so they cannot block doorways.

Their phases are inconsistent to how they act in upturned. In upturned, Shrimp's stomach starts growling, then they get small eyes, then they open their mouth, then they chase you. Currently in LC_Office, Shrimp gets small eyes and growling at the same time.

Also, I believe that in upturned when you feed Shrimp to the point that their stomach stops growling, the timer resets and feeding them does nothing until their stomach starts growling again, which lowers the timer an extra amount so you can't feed Shrimp to reset them. in LC_Office, Shrimp's stomach usually starts growling again almost immediately which makes it very easy to get overwhelmed by them.

[candid finch]

What is best rarity rate for shrimp boi to spawn, bc I've never seen him as a natural spawn

[unborn bay]

depends on how common you want to see him spawn

[unborn bay]

i should probably @narrow fossil ping you for this so you actually see it

[candid finch]

^

[candid finch]

I would say like 10, 15% but I feel like what I'm trying isn't working I don't think unless I'm very unlucky ig
Bc I'm seeing 096 (15%) and fiend (20%) much more

[unborn bay]

it's not percent, it's weight

[unborn bay]

anyways i think a good weight for that would be 6,12,15,9,15,16,16,17 for shrimpspawnweight (and 10 for shrimpmoddedmoonspawnweight)

[candid finch]

Ah ok, ty

[fierce crown]

So um... not sure what happened to this lil guy... is this normal? Think maybe he ate a Lantern or Oil Lamp but not sure.

[unborn bay]

the consumer

[sweet tinsel]

Looks like shrimp ate a lamp tbh

It has the same weird lighting as the lamp. Wonder if there's a symbol lighting up to the ceiling from the top of its head though

🤔

[novel flame]

I think 'the problem' with pretty much all custom interiors is that their tile sizes are much bigger than the default ones especially factory. So you end up with a map that has the same amount of tiles/rooms but it's a significantly larger area. Which is why we need a separate size configuration for each interior. Simply increasing the loot amount is no solution imo (as enemies are affected in the same way).

[dense bay]

Factory? What's that from

[novel flame]

It's the default interior (not mansion)

[dense bay]

ah, i completely forgot it has a name tbh, i just called it base interior lol

[wicked needle]

Exactly this, that and I like the option for "max dungeon multiplier" in the config because then I can tweak it to be more suitable on the larger dungeon moons

This is a base game problem too, mansion on titan and march is awful, better on march because of the fire exits but man it's just how big those tiles are

If we had some sort of mod that allowed a dungeon size multiplier per dungeon per moon that would be fantastic, a lot of tweaking in a config though

[novel flame]

Yeah, I feel that. It's borderline impossible to get a good setup with multiple interiors per moon. Currently the best way is to use custom moons . Each moon spawns only one interior and then you can use the moons size mult to handle dungeon size.

I'm not sure but I vaguely recall the dev of LLL (@tepid wind ) mentioning something along those lines (better way to handle size config)

[wicked needle]

It would totally make sense with LLL already handling a lot, poor Batby, there is already a lot on the plate 😭

[tranquil minnow]

I feel like from a configuration perspective it would make the most sense for moons and dungeons to individually have their own rates, then each rate gets multiplied together to form the "final" rate per say.

It's kinda weird from the design of the game to just make everything dependent on the moon, like on Titan when you will get lamps and such, it doesn't make much sense

[nimble imp]

looks cool

[sacred ibex]

You can set the office by typing out VowLevel and custom moons as InfernisLevel over here correct, but you also do not include any weight number how it seems

[narrow fossil]

I'd like to update, but I dont have time for modding these days
there will be some updates soon, including configurable map sizes

[sacred ibex]

oh i only ask what excatly the names would be, since i cant get office to spawn on modded, i got my list right here--

AssuranceLevel,VowLevel,Atlantica,OffenseLevel,MarchLevel,Acidir,TitanLevel,SecretLabs

[shrewd dagger]

You should take a break Piggy! I think what you've done is really amazing

[sacred ibex]

yes its amazing, and im not trying to put more work over you, i just have trouble getting it to work haha

[deft tapir]

I still see office on paid moons. Like Wesley new moons. Anyone else seeing them on paid moons?

Configurations don’t seem to work.

[sacred ibex]

if you want it to be on everything do vanilla, thats how i got it to work, it has no restriction really but what you can try is what i put in

AssuranceLevel,VowLevel,Atlantica,OffenseLevel,MarchLevel,Acidir,TitanLevel,SecretLabs

normal moons with Level at the end and moddedmoons with their mod name

[vapid patio]

thats what i do

[crimson berry]

i think lethal level loader is broken

my friends saying that this mod making a lot of bugs

[grand nimbus]

yeah, just revert to 1.0.7

[placid ferry]

yeah LLL blew up lol

[livid yoke]

does anyone know LLL's thread?

[unborn bay]

#1193461151636398080

[livid yoke]

ty!

[acoustic laurel]

It is

[lyric apex]

use 1.0.7 until fix (for LLL)

[loud epoch]

I don't think LLL is getting "fixed". From what I understand LLL had a change to how it handles certain things. A lot of mods that use it had updates to work with it. We'll probably have to wait for piggy to update.

[forest niche]

or use old version of everything haha

[loud epoch]

Yup

[crimson berry]

does that make the elevator work

[lyric apex]

should

[sacred ibex]

not sure why the elevator aint working for you, i played on 1.0.7 and me and my friend were able to move down and up the elevator

[crimson berry]

i used 1.0.7 and it didnt work

[lyric apex]

else its probably an issue with another thing

what if you try while disabling most non-necessary mod ?

like try to pinpoint who is the responsible

[sacred ibex]

i got 99 mods in my pack and still works rip

[tepid wind]

I think @narrow fossil was doing a lot of relatively jank stuff to make things work for Office because LLL didn’t have official ways to do them yet. It’s possible the new update has issues with those previous ways of doing things

Once I’m back I’d love to help get them fixed if needed, definitely not Piggy’s fault

[stark forge]

ohh no fucking way

lc office has a thread?

[frail dove]

y-yes

[stark forge]

i was gonna add on alot of stuff

like how sometimes the elevator makes you jitter

and maybe a config option to disable the elevator music

[loud epoch]

This has been confirmed to be planned for a future update.

[stark forge]

theres also some bits of furniture that phase through the map a little bit or literally halfway

[stark forge]

sweet

[sweet tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-they-office-gif-26388486

[crimson berry]

do i have to use a previous version to get the elevator to work

[loud epoch]

Honestly, no idea. Keep in mind, if you download an earlier version, you also need to download earlier versions of all it's dependencies.

[hard ginkgo]

is there ways to make dungeons smaller?

[novel flame]

Yes, with new LLL version you can

[hard ginkgo]

LLL?

[grand nimbus]

Lethal Level Loader

[brazen cradle]

Guys why if change the config of shrimp when on advanced Company they don't change

?

[hard ginkgo]

Also the elevator tends to bug out

desync I think?

me and another guy were up but the third guy character apparently was still at the lower floor?

[sacred ibex]

seem like a desync on the third guy

[hard ginkgo]

so like if I want to bring the map smaller I put like 1.5?

right?

[crimson berry]

when i load in its always "if you see this, its a bug!"

and the elevator never works

:(

[candid finch]

are the trap rooms in this interior still in, canceled, or in the works still?

[craggy sigil]

Pretty sure you need to flip minimum and maximum

But that's not gonna do anything if the map's "size" is already in those parameters, and unfortunately even at size 1 Office is crazy large rn

Like Experimentation's size is 1.2 and I've seen screenshots of what it looks like

[stark forge]

guys theres a couple bigger bugs

this spawns in furniture and sometimes too close to the ground

also my friend said he was stuck in the elevator on his screen cause the doors were closed after i grabbed the apparatus but i was able to leave the facility as the doors were open for me..

[craggy sigil]

I've seen floating stuff in the offices like vents

[stark forge]

and he couldnt leave

is the apparatus thingy all client sided or what?

[solid quail]

https://tenor.com/view/this-peaks-memes-gif-16921095133411355177

[wise meadow]

legit my favorite interior mod

[round reef]

can the shrimp be killed ?

[stark forge]

judging by footage no

also i have more bugs and i might even put all of them in a list in my own thread but if you want i can just run down all of them again

its not that much

weird sound that sounds like the apparatus detach sound but played through a mic..?

and dear god please fix this.

(the power was already out when i got in the facility, the elevator was already at the floor and whatnot, i just had to grab the apparatus)

[stark forge]

and im gonna note this just in-case because idk i've always seen weird client sided shit

i was gonna explain it a little differently but i kinda forgot how

[stark forge]

i also really hope the elevator eventually looks and is animated more like the one in the trailer

[trim fractal]

how’s LC office coming along? I haven’t looked in a while

Is all of the sync stuff fixed ?

[lime lily]

Out of 100?

[topaz pumice]

out of infinty

let me give a better explanation
option a has a weight of 5
option b has a weight of 3

so that means in the random function there will be 5 chances for a to be picked and 3 for b
[a, a, a, a, a, b, b, b]
when it picks a random item from that list there is a 5/8 chance that it's option a, and 3/8 for option b
so when calculating the probability for something like this its
weight for option/total weight of all options

increasing weight for option would also increase total weight of all options

[lime lily]

Right I get that but it's not very intuitive on the actual chance it represents

[topaz pumice]

does discord support mathjax $a^2+b^2=c^2$

no it doesn't

[unborn cypress]

bro straight up phasing through reality to put the apparatus through the wall

[topaz pumice]

it's intutive when you have to implement it into your randomness

[stark forge]

yeah there’s a lot to fix but there’s also a lot to fix in lc itself

also it’d be nice to make the shrimp killable

[pastel sierra]

But I don't want to kill shrimp

[candid finch]

Eat shrimp

[tiny wave]

Weights are prolly the best option for modders who add a chance for their interior or moon or enemy to spawn lol

It's just compatible

[fresh depot]

I thought of the Coil factory lol

[sacred ibex]

has the office mod been updated to llls newest patch yet?

[brazen cradle]

@narrow fossil does shrimp not spawn with default value from AC?

[stark forge]

oh fuck i forgot pinning was a thing

[stark forge]

also can we make the elevator doors more "linear"?

like its opening and closing animation

i really hope piggy sees all my suggestions and stuff

..what?

0 clue as to what your even implying here but yes i use mods sometimes

the fact you followed me here though is pretty pathetic

..bro its not even that deep

the mods i were using are vanilla friendly and dont conflict with anything, you dont have to pay attention to the fucking mods, just pay attention to the bug i sent

seriously? why did you have to come to this thread to add on to such a stupid fucking off-topic argument

[distant grail]

Explain to me how any of this shit is relevant to this thread?
If yall are gonna bicker like housewives, do it in DMs

[stark forge]

exactly

your not "schooling" me your just really embarrassing

and it sounds like im being schooled by the counsel of reddit.

many people already mentioned my bug was inside of vanilla

end of conversation

[sacred ibex]

btw if you give shrimp the red item from asteroid13, and the bunker apparatus from moreinterior, it will make him glow bright in a kind of darker yellow almost broiwn, which is kinda neato

not forget the darkervoiced volume from the wheezer guitar lmao

[stark forge]

yo guys

i just figured out that

[stark forge]

i replicated this

by turning on the "gurantee office" thingy

so everytime i came back the elevator was glitched like this, no power, but the door is closed, and the light is on, sometimes even playing music

and i really dont like the fact you can put in the apparatus through the wall either

really hope u could fix :>

[stark forge]

oh and idk if it matters or not but i quit the game and came back

[loud epoch]

did Piggy ever say they were taking a break? They haven't posted in a few days. I hope they are doing okay.

[idle linden]

#1196943144009351258 message

[loud epoch]

thank you

[narrow fossil]

I'm going home in 2 days

[stark forge]

...?

i guess the furniture clipping through walls and floors isnt the only issue :c