Scarlet Devil Mansion v2.2（紅魔館）

[rare needle]

☠️

Lost count how many times now I've went around a corner and there's 2 right next to each other

Walk in another room and another turret

lol

[timid fox]

Modding is fun, but modeling is not. At least no fun for me.

[weak stag]

True

[timid fox]

It's great that you optimized all your assets.
I'm the one who stuffed players' disk with huge models.

[rare needle]

Btw I'm not a fan of how there's only like 1 pathway most of the time now after the SDM update

I like the new update but it was nice having branching areas to go to and different rooms and stuff

[polar jackal]

@tranquil frigate
🤣

[timid fox]

Actually I'm getting lost everywhere.

[last bridge]

Cannot pick up :(

[rare needle]

The new dungeon generation makes the interior just feel way too linear, I love the new jump puzzle hallways though

I preferred the old generation thoguh

x.x

[thorn heron]

you using vanilla generation?

[rare needle]

yes

New generation sucks lol

[thorn heron]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-joker-gun-long-gif-17532069

wh0

wh-

wait

why

[rare needle]

It's linear

[thorn heron]

are you using the vanilla generation

[rare needle]

One path

Well before

It matched the size of vanilla mansion essentially

and had matching branching paths

So it wasn't an issue

Idk if it feels less linear with defaults now

[thorn heron]

Me personally

I use a slightly modified version of BitMoreLoot

[rare needle]

The mansion already generates so much loot on vanilla gen

LOL

[thorn heron]

thats why i use slightly modified

[rare needle]

I might downgrade the mod though, til the linear stuff is fixed cus the linear generation now just feels well...

Bad

[tranquil frigate]

Good to know, I'll look into it

[rare needle]

Ty ^^ I do love the new changes and jump puzzles but it feels weird going in main entrance and only having 1 real passage way be available XD

[rare needle]

Btw @tranquil frigate Enemies can't pathfind across the jump gaps

[tranquil frigate]

i told them enemies to, once sec

[rare needle]

Which has also led to when a Masked enemy spawns in for an example and someone is outside they get stuck trying to walk against a wall to get out rather than pathfinding to the main door

lol

I saw 2 situations today where 2 spawned in stuck trying to leave through a wall

XD

[dapper pine]

Fumo!

[tranquil frigate]

btw map hazard didn't change, it's still completely based on the moon's difficulty

[rare needle]

Yeah I just noticed they were spawning closer together on moons that have them

XD

[tranquil frigate]

oh wait, did you say that you were using vanilla generation?

[rare needle]

Yeah

[tranquil frigate]

ahhh

well that explains it

@rare needle since you actually play the vanilla generation, what are your thoughts of the bottom floor

i feel like since you have only 1 main path, having 3 different floors to find the real main path is a pain in the ass?

[rare needle]

It can be yeah, previously I really liked the Vanilla generation but I may swap it to the Default now after the Revamp tbh

I don't mind the different floors, just find it weird the branching paths are gone

XD

Cus it used to have multiple different rooms and sections

[tranquil frigate]

what are your thoughts of me locking the bottom floor for vanilla generation?

[rare needle]

That may help

I only ever did the Vanilla generation since a lot of times I start off playing with 1 other person tbh

Lol

I'll test how Default feels

[tranquil frigate]

not yet

you do that i unalive you

[rare needle]

Haha

[tranquil frigate]

but i should be able to easily lock off the bottom floor

[rare needle]

Yeah I imagine blocking off sections that won't have a path generate when using the new vanilla generation will help

Also I will say we had a couple times where scrap was unable to be grabbed

something spawned under a bed, and another time something spawned under a table

Couldn't grab them

[tranquil frigate]

ya im confused about that

since on my end, it looks like it shouldnt be doing that

[rare needle]

Could it be part of the vanilla generation maybe?

[tranquil frigate]

doubt it

[rare needle]

Got it

[tranquil frigate]

wait, were these issues recent by chance?

[rare needle]

Yeah they happened today after the new update

lol

[tranquil frigate]

hmmst

[tranquil frigate]

I think I found out why the mayor wasn't branching out anymore

Just how to fix it though

[rare needle]

Oooh

Yeah cus before with vanilla generation it would always branch out even the downstairs area usually, I just dunno why with the new update it doesn't lol

I guess for Vanilla generation restore the old method if it's only an issue with the vanilla gen

[tranquil frigate]

I also found a century-old bug in my generation

which explains why one path is always bigger

[rare needle]

Haha I didn't even notice that but nice find

[tranquil frigate]

More dungeon generation code altering later

Update up

I had to alter the DunGen code AGAIN for branching paths to spawn on my special intersection tiles (i.e. the mayor entrance and the new hallway entrances)

In English, the mayor is fixed

Also @rare needle added a toggle to disable the mayor basement, it's automaticaly toggled on with the Vanilla preset

[rare needle]

Oki ^^

[tranquil frigate]

I also may have fixed the items spawning below the bed, but if it still happens too frequently, I'm just gonna shotgun it by added specific spawns to each tile

[rare needle]

Okay will let you know if it happens lol

[rare needle]

The new update is really good, so glad you fixed it ^^

[tranquil frigate]

fosho, couldnt leave it broken

[rare needle]

Yeeee

[thorn heron]

good morning

Im here to mess shit up config wise

As I understand all the weight configs have been moved to LLL right?

[thorn heron]

on a scale of 1 to 10 how much would this mess up the generation?

[tranquil frigate]

0

[thorn heron]

Would you recommend using the clamp setting for your dungeon to help reduce the size but not hard cap it to 1.5

[tranquil frigate]

It will probably be fine. I used to clamp it to 2.0 for Titan and it seemed to remove the worst of out Titan's hugeness

[thorn heron]

2.0 for the max dungeon size setting and 0 for the restrict scaler?

[tranquil frigate]

Ya I used to that, but that was for the previous dungeon generation

Now, I don't know what is best, but 1.5 for max dungeon size and 0.5 for scaler will probably work fine

[tranquil frigate]

Btw, what was your settings for this

Curious to how people tuned their dungeons

[timid surge]

have you seen the tile size field yet? it's not included in LLL config but might be nice to try out

it lets you scale the dungeon length multiplier by a fixed value instead of clamping it, could be nice

[thorn heron]

1.5 more loot. 1.4 hazard multiplier, min enemy spawn count 3

increased painting value

[tranquil frigate]

Not sure what you mean, also not sure who you are directly that to

[thorn heron]

yea was that towards me?

[tranquil frigate]

Ahh lol, that's a risking dungeon alright

[thorn heron]

made paintings only spawn jesters

[tranquil frigate]

Devilish

[thorn heron]

Dubious

[timid surge]

it was to you, sorry

[tranquil frigate]

Then I have not seen it

[thorn heron]

also

been meaning to ask

[timid surge]

there's a new value in ExtendedDungeonFlow that corresponds to the value Zeekers uses to scale the mansion interior

MapTileSize

[thorn heron]

the s1 spawns the special behaviors for enemies such as jester pre cranking his shit right

(ill wait you can talk to zaggy first btw i got numerous questions)

[tranquil frigate]

Ohh that value, I've been assuming that's always 1.5

[timid surge]

it's always 1 if you don't set it afaik

1.5 is mansion

[tranquil frigate]

No I'm pretty sure it's always 1.5 no matter the place

I was testing just yesterday, and despite my length being 4 to 5, LLL log reported 6 to 7.5

Unless I'm missing something

Perhaps the default value for extended dungeon flow (I create mine at Plugin.Awake) is 1.5

https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/main/LethalLevelLoader/Components/ExtendedContent/ExtendedDungeonFlow.cs

Wut it is 1

I'll look into that later

[tranquil frigate]

What be your questions

[thorn heron]

The special spawn conditions thingy

I see you have them for your knight and the jester

when on the jester it makes it spawn already cranking

for your knight it does...

[tranquil frigate]

It's kinda backwards for the knight, maybe I should fix it but...

The knight by default wants to spawn on a statue, and if it cant find a statue it stay on the vent/sigil that spawned it, that is its default spawning pattern

By setting the special spawn condition to 1, you disable that spawning pattern, meaning that it spawns normally

[thorn heron]

hm

does any other entity have a special spawning condition

[tranquil frigate]

Just those two, I don't know what else I could add that wouldn't be completely unfair

[thorn heron]

Im here to represent the unfair

[tranquil frigate]

Oh I can easily think of ways to destroy the player

But I rather not, or if I did it will not be enabled by default

[thorn heron]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-hazbin-hotel-alastor-alastor-leg-kick-kicking-legs-gif-5108302270646394140

does

does the ghost girl auto hunt sound like a thing you can do with minimal stress

hypothetically speaking

[tranquil frigate]

Minimal stress it should be

I do have to visit the painting enemies soon since I've been needing to add the butler

So if there's anything else I could add to that event, I would be able to

This also been in the back of my mind (it's still on my phone tab) so I'll try this as well
https://www.google.com/search?q=unity+ghosty+material&client=ms-android-att-us-revc&sca_esv=5e1cf30a8e60a482&sxsrf=ACQVn0_vgi8ji_OG85TiFZHsKba3aTprNQ%3A1709878661194&ei=ha3qZZK0C-Tl2roP6uWUiA4&oq=unity+ghosty+material&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwGgIYAiIVdW5pdHkgZ2hvc3R5IG1hdGVyaWFsMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYiQUYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIESLM1UNAKWKgzcAB4AJABAJgBjAKgAa4oqgEGMS4zMS40uAEDyAEA-AEBmAIZoAKTHcICBBAjGCfCAgcQABiABBgTwgIGEAAYHhgTwgIIEAAYHhgPGBPCAggQABgIGB4YE8ICBxAAGIAEGATCAgUQABiABMICBBAAGB7CAg0QABiABBgEGLEDGIMBwgIKEAAYgAQYBBiLA8ICBhAAGAMYBMICDhAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGIsDwgIQEAAYgAQYigUYQxixAxiDAcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAgoQABiABBiKBRhDwgIHEAAYgAQYDcICDRAAGIAEGA0YsQMYgwHCAgkQABiABBgNGBPCAgUQIRigAcICBBAhGBWYAwCIBgGSBwYwLjIyLjOgB4qIAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

[thorn heron]

ooo

thats a good idea

[timid surge]

that seems odd, I confirmed it worked well for Black Mesa when I implemented the config option

you were increasing it to make your dungen length smaller, right?

[tranquil frigate]

No I never touched that as I assumed everywhere was 1.5 multiplier

[timid surge]

oh I see, I misread

factory is 1 so that it's the "base" size, mansion is 1.5 to be 75% the length of that

er, 66%

for Black Mesa we ended up on a value of 2 iirc, the tiles there are quite large so it needs to be scaled down quite a bit

[tranquil frigate]

Maybe I'm misreading something here

I'll read this again later

[glass walrus]

We did 2.5 actually 😛

[timid surge]

oh I forgor lol

[frozen topaz]

Koishi as special ghost girl variant?

I am aware that there's a mod for that already

[alpine goblet]

idea : allow butlers to spawn in the SDM, and they drop sakuya's knife on death

[tranquil frigate]

Counter idea, it's the butler but in a maid skin

Already in the works

[alpine goblet]

nice then

[solid beacon]

who would be the butler variant

It doesn't need to be someone with a knife, the knife could be reskinned into idk, a sake bottle

[alpine goblet]

kogasa as a jester

[weak stag]

Sakuya would still fit far more than anyone
Mansion, sweeping and cleaning, similar mannerisms, association with knives
Remember they gotta drop the knife when they die too right? Or else its an even worse butler

[timid fox]

Maid flash here and there with unlimited knives

[wild oar]

Is this perhaps working in v50 ?

I'm really sorry if the question has already been asked, i tried searching a bit higher in the thread but couldn't see it

Really wanted to try this interior even tho i don't know anything about what it's based of of

[cerulean ether]

pretty sure it works

[wild oar]

Thanks (:

[lost rampart]

lmao?

three of these four doors are real

one is a mimic

[tranquil frigate]

sometimes it be like that

[lost rampart]

As an aside your interior seems to disagree with LethalFixes #1235731485894643722 message

[tranquil frigate]

small update in a bit, enemies that spawn from the painting event have special colouring (only the default enemies for now)

[rare needle]

I love this tbh, does this mean if one of the Nutcrackers spawned is killed you'll get a unique variant of the shotgun? ;o

[tranquil frigate]

it's a regular looking shotgun, anything past that is too annoying for this small flavour feature

[rare needle]

Fair I do really like it though, the cursed designs are cool

[tranquil frigate]

@cerulean ether btw check it, what i was doing yesterday

[cerulean ether]

ah nice, i think it looks good, dunno if its the colourblindness or how you actually made it but im barely able to see it lol, maybe its just the angle

[tranquil frigate]

when they are standing still it's real hard to pick out the shape

[cerulean ether]

thats fair yeah

[tranquil frigate]

but when they moving, I found it quite clear. They are unlit so they glow even in the dark

well, people will complain to me eventually that if its too hard to see

and there is always the config to disable it

[cerulean ether]

no point in listening to complaints if u have the config optionn then

[tranquil frigate]

well if everyone is complaining and disabling the feature, then i probably messed up big time

[cerulean ether]

fair

when i added my new enemy there were a few things that split people in half quite a bit

[tranquil frigate]

ya adding new of anything is quite difficult

prone to break shit, both the balance and the code

[cerulean ether]

oh yeah definitely, especially when i switched to LLL

[tranquil frigate]

im still confused to why you would switch to LLL for just your enemies?

[cerulean ether]

nah i switched to LLL for all parts of that mod, not just the enemies, but the enemies part is the most broken

probably gonna switch back to LL today

[tranquil frigate]

lel

[cerulean ether]

i can get rid of my hotfix garbage code for stuff like the debug menu lol

atleast config will work for people too

[tranquil frigate]

nice

[cerulean ether]

oh yeah, have u seen the weather i've working on?

[tranquil frigate]

i have not, i assume you mean the meteors?

[cerulean ether]

yee

it's going pretty well and hoping to release it soon, balancing things is always annoying though

[tranquil frigate]

for real

enjoy the week of patching after

[cerulean ether]

yeah im waiting for the "meteor is too big" nitpicks, though i kinda enjoy working on weather

wonder why no one's done it before

[tranquil frigate]

the same reason why I ask to why no one else has modified the DunGen code to improve their interiors

I assume it's difficult for most people

[cerulean ether]

maybe, i've seen a few interior makers talk about how daunting it is lol, i think i saw someone re-make my weather code in like one function as a joke , kinda funny, gonna see how far i can take the weather stuff

just hoping i can find some good particle assets or something along those lines

[tranquil frigate]

ya interiors are up there in the hardest things to mod

you really need every skill in the book

[cerulean ether]

ill be giving it a go at some point

i think im only missing having made a moon and an interior so far

[tranquil frigate]

good f'ing luck

[cerulean ether]

oh and ship upgrades and those type of things

[tranquil frigate]

interiors require so much upfront work

[cerulean ether]

yeah, plus my imagination is horrible so it probably wont look that good lmao

did buy dungen on discount earlier to make things a little easier

[tranquil frigate]

ive been using dungen through LC since the beginning

ya dungen on discount is probably a lot lot easier than what i did

[cerulean ether]

[thorn heron]

even the ||ghost girl||?

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate you'll love the new moon Tolian dropped, it's like completely designed for SDM ^^

[cerulean ether]

It sounds like it was designed for sdm

[glass walrus]

It was

[cerulean ether]

Oh, wow, I could've never expected that

[dapper pine]

Vanilla,
Or modded?

[rare needle]

What would make you think a Tolian Moon is Vanilla?

XD

[dapper pine]

Because I Never Heard of that mod before?
Mainly because Before I Joined this server, "LethalLevelLoader" was a Curse upon the game?
It Could be a Vanilla Challenge or Beta moon.

There are Thousands of Mods on the Thunderstore,
And moons are Not the interesting kind

[rare needle]

I've never heard anyone say LLL was a curse XD

[dapper pine]

Because without One Mod that NOWHERE ELSE points out,
It Will either:
-Crash your Game
-Not Allow you to Go to certain Moons, Especially the Company

[rare needle]

So? Use TerminalFormatter with it, Batby will have the issue fixed when they release 1.2.3

It's weird for you to be shit talking LLL in a thread about a custom interior that uses LLL

Really weird

[dapper pine]

Did you Not Read what I had Said Before?

[rare needle]

It's never crashed the game btw

Not in my experience

[dapper pine]

Now you Are ignoring what I said earlier.
Neat!

[tranquil frigate]

I understand your frustration but this isn't the place to talk about LLL issues, I just make funny mansion mod

[rare needle]

I'm not ignoring what you said

and agreed with Raphtalia as I said this isn't the place for you to shit talk LLL and talk about issues with it

[dapper pine]

🤔

Aside from . . . That,
Good to know Yukari is Still as Evil as ever.
Any Other Monsters in mind?

[tranquil frigate]

We have another enemy variant in the work, but no actual unique enemy for a while

I'm currently focused on the dungeon exploration with new rooms and dungeon mechanics

[dapper pine]

Please No Yuyuko traps

[tranquil frigate]

Define yuyuko traps

[dapper pine]

Om Nom Nom

[opal wigeon]

making mods be hard sometimes 😔

[rare needle]

We know you got this Batby, glad you're taking your time working on the next update tbh

[dapper pine]

Never Said it Wasn't,
Just Still Peeved that no fixes were mentioned Anywhere,
Really wanted to try out This mod with my friend, glad there Was a fix Somewhere

[opal wigeon]

becuase i haven't worked on the project so its yet to be fixed 😛

[tranquil frigate]

so work on it lll boi

snap snap

[opal wigeon]

pay me 😛

[tranquil frigate]

i was about to say personal issue but it's actually a personal issue

cause you are actually busy/tired

[dapper pine]

Wouldn't it be better to make that Terminal mod a Requirement to Download it, like Bepin?

[opal wigeon]

that mod didnt fix the problem until after i took a break

its fixed on the unreleased build that will come out eventually

[dapper pine]

Which was . . .?

[opal wigeon]

bouta week ago

[tranquil frigate]

how come the fix is not out yet?

[opal wigeon]

was other stuff i needed to work on before dropping the update

[tranquil frigate]

I assume you mean, it's ready but it's not live ready

And you haven't had the time yet to make sure it's live ready?

[opal wigeon]

theres other stuff i needed to like do

unrelated to that specific problem

eg. the item saving pr\

[tranquil frigate]

well good luck with that

[dapper pine]

Found a mod that fixes That issue,
Funnily Enough

[opal wigeon]

yeah

that mod is going into LLL

😭

[dapper pine]

https://tenor.com/view/satori-tango-touhou-third-eye-third-eye-tango-gif-8516657870546393370

Koishi And Satori dolls when?
(We Must Tango)

[tranquil frigate]

hmmst, I would love to have something like that as a scrap

like those mechanic toys things uhh what are they called one sec

i know there are things like this but its like a house decor and they spin

wait a minute, i have some spare assets from previous games, i may try something like that later

[dapper pine]

Can't Wait for the New Doll jumpscares

[tranquil frigate]

they won't be jumpscares, they will just be decorative scrap

akin to a snowglobe

[dapper pine]

N'aw, now we Won't have Koishi Blinking at us,
Or Satori being Suddenly Smug at us

Least we still get Painting Jumpscare

[tranquil frigate]

you imply that Satori just being smug is a jumpscare?

understandable to an extent

[dapper pine]

Like looking Into the Player's "Eyes" suddenly,
With her 3 Eyes and that Typical Smug Look on her face, like she just heard the Funniest joke in the World

[brave pendant]

[13:29:57.4645129] [Error  :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] GiftBoxItem could not inject Items. Probably scary
[13:29:57.4704950] [Error  :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] SpawnScrapInLevel could not inject Items. Probably scary

I'm scared

second line also prints when other interior mods awake

but everything seems to be working fine..? 🤷‍♂️

[tranquil frigate]

by chance are you using AdvancedCompany?

[brave pendant]

yup

[tranquil frigate]

then the potato guy probably changed how he did his code

[brave pendant]

the sepcific compatiblity with your mod?

[tranquil frigate]

well the mod will still work, and nothing should break

well I added compability a long time ago so my interior would work

[brave pendant]

right, I member that

[tranquil frigate]

but since AC is no longer on the thunderstore, it's legimatically too much of a pain to fix that code for whatever potato is coding these days

that being said

LLL should have a new feature eventually that will basically remove that error above

but my interior will still work even with that error above, you just won't get my items or enemies

[brave pendant]

i see. understandable.
I think it was introduced with switching my entire pack to v50 inlcuding your mod, LLL and AC so something probably changed in that regard.
Thanks for the info

[split herald]

Hello,
First of all, thanks for the mod that is amazing since the begining (and all the possibilities to tweak it in the config file).

I have a little question, I can't find anymore the dungeon spawn weight in the config, have you deleted it on purpose or is it just a bug that will be fixed in the future ? (Or maybe I have a bug in my files).

Thanks again o/

[tranquil frigate]

I deleted it on purpose since I moved it to the LLL config. You need to edit it there now. Sorrys!

[split herald]

No need to apologies you are doing an awesome work, thanks for the fast answers, I'll come back again if I have some trouble 😄

[brave pendant]

interestingly enough I just saw a Knight spawn in with that setup (and the errors)

knight, tulip snake (v50) and ac in one picture

[tranquil frigate]

Menacing

[dapper pine]

Question,
Did I Miss an Option to make the SDM Spawn on Other moons?
I want to Honor Sanguin

[rocky mural]

#1195583267546595389 message

[dapper pine]

I AM BLIND

[dapper pine]

What are the Symbols on the Ground for?

[brave pendant]

they are basically vents (||enemy spawns||)

[dapper pine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489978616038293515/1236632405457113088/GMyphigb0AA2dEo.png?ex=6638b72c&is=663765ac&hm=b449788d5a0eb9b098db974cf311ebf3574891910eb01f1cfe4fa370aa885d1b&

And the Crystal Flashlight?
Aside from being Best color?

[silver hare]

it has improved battery life, just keep in mind it counts as scrap and not just a tool (hopefully a config option will be set for this soon)

it seems about half of the time, even with the basement disabled (as you can see), basement floors still generate. you can see the scrap underneath the floor there. (there's a way down just past the doorway in the picture) i assume this is a bug of some sort, unless it's intended to still have some rooms be able to generate at the basement level

[tranquil frigate]

That's particular, I'll take a look thx

[tranquil frigate]

Yall are experts, how do you set the dungeon to spawn on all moons?

Is it "All" in the dynamic levels tag section?

[cerulean ether]

That's how it was for LL

Do make sure the tag isn't broken though, like custom is broken for enemies rn

[rare needle]

Yeah hopefully the bugs you had get fixed when LLL 1.2.3 drops, it's just the implementation isn't quite there yet for your use case

[tranquil frigate]

that bug is gonna frustrate me, I actually disable the bottom floor to prevent this and it still wants to spawn scrap there

And I checked again my mayor tile, and there's nothing that suggests that that should happen

But I'll keep sniffing

but i suppose you don't have the seed for that generation right? :)

[tranquil frigate]

the observent viewer will notice that, the nav mesh is still going through the wall

i think i know why

[tranquil frigate]

you may think to yourself, how are these item issues showing up again, especially after the Mimics patch

well it's quite simple, I changed how I had to generate my walls so it work with Mimics

HOWEVER

I forgot to account for the navmesh, which is created after the dungeon generates but before I fix my walls

In English, I fixed this inconsistency

I'll add one more room, maybe two, and that'd be the update for tonight, tonight at 12am probs

[tranquil frigate]

Spent more time updating the Readme go figure

[dapper pine]

Yukari's Eyes have made my friend Scared of jumping,
Mission Accomplished

[solid beacon]

does an arm randomly reach out and try to pull someone into the pit

[tranquil frigate]

You shouldn't be giving me ideas like that

I may actually do it

[solid beacon]

that's the point. it should be a rare thing like every 45-90 seconds, so the odds are really low and it doesn't get frustrating

[main flax]

a pit with an arm coming out of it…

an arm pit!!

[brave pendant]

Possible fix to [...] wall phasing enemy movement
sounds like a feature to me 👀

[tranquil frigate]

Nah it's a fix to a potential previous bug

[tranquil frigate]

Ye, I'm not actually gonna add a mechanic to destroy the player just for existing

I know I saw someone doing hand enemies with Diverse something?

Shouldn't be too rough to do something similar (but not now)

[glass walrus]

Vile Vending Machine has a arm with a hand coming out of it

[dapper pine]

On the Nutcrackers,

[silver hare]

If you can somehow disable pits/jump puzzles from generating like this, that'd be great, because it kind of defeats the purpose of them when you can just walk across. It's not an issue most of the time as these were the only instances I got from a few generations, but it's still a possibility.

[tranquil frigate]

like you said, it's not an issue most of the time. i knew it was a possibility but it's rare enough that im fine with it

about a 1/16 chance i think, well i could make it a bit rarer

[thorn heron]

:(

the recolor does not affect the ghost girl

[tranquil frigate]

it only effects the default enemies that I choose for the bedroom event, I wanted to know if the feature wasn't destructive before i went further

[rare needle]

The fact you made it so it can spawn the ghost girl is evil XD

[tranquil frigate]

btw, i assume since that no one complained so its probs fine but, the colouring of the bedroom enemies is not impossible to see?

i know they can hard to see when standing still, but in motion they are clear yes?

[rare needle]

I have no issues with them lol

I like the demonic coloring tbh

[thorn heron]

See

You never get to see the ghost girl anymore in modded

I feel bad for her

[rare needle]

I meannn

You haven't been to Sector-0 recently or Starlancer's new moon then

XD

[autumn atlas]

Is the config for the moons the interior spawns on gone?

[tranquil frigate]

its in LLL now

[autumn atlas]

Ah

[tranquil frigate]

the mod page has a tutorial on how to set that up

[autumn atlas]

O alright

[tranquil frigate]

just in case ya dont know

[autumn atlas]

Thank you

Uh when you say the tutorial is on the mod page do you mean scarlet Devil mansions mod page or lethal level loaders

[tranquil frigate]

SDM

[autumn atlas]

Or am I just trippin and it’s somewhere else

[tranquil frigate]

I dont think LLL has one yet?

top of the page, its by a dropdown

i can make that more obvious

[autumn atlas]

Ooo

Thank you

Found it

[dapper pine]

I Wish the Nutslayer could spawn with that coloring,
Or from that event

BUT,
That'd make things Too hard for my friend

This message was sent Way Earlier,
BUT, Discord is ran by Dicks

[tranquil frigate]

the nutman can spawn

but the enemies that can spawn are completely based on what that moon can spawn

[dapper pine]

I'm talkin' about the one from Brutal Company

[tranquil frigate]

ahh

you can add him with the config i have set up

[dapper pine]

I Fear doing that

[tranquil frigate]

you just have to add the nutman's name into that list

well you need the real default list but r2modman never lets me show more

knight@s1,crawler,nutcracker,springman,maskedplayerenemy,jester@s1,butler

just add any custom enemy you list at the end of that list

with a comma to separate

[thorn heron]

oh wait the painting event will only spawn available enemies from the moon?

and not force an unnatural spawn

[tranquil frigate]

yes

[thorn heron]

oh thats radical

[tranquil frigate]

you correct

[thorn heron]

😄 im so fucked

im going to be in literal hell with the options i put

[weak stag]

I added dogs

[tranquil frigate]

that works?

[weak stag]

uh havent seen it yet actually

i suppose i could make ONLY dogs spawn and test it

tomorrow mayb

[dapper pine]

When is Col. Brolli Diamondback being added?

[tranquil frigate]

Wat

Explain yourself

[cerulean ether]

when am i being added

[tranquil frigate]

Make it a touhou reference and I'll consider it

[cerulean ether]

damn, gotta think real hard about how im going to do this

[tranquil frigate]

Consider the following, this is in my mod as a portrait, but it's a touhou character instead

[cerulean ether]

aint no way

i know so little about touhou 😭

quick google search tells me me and ran yakumo same species (i have no clue)

[tranquil frigate]

Find out what part of you that you wanna add

And how you will represent it

And I'll find the touhou character

If you are going for a fox girl, than Ran is up there

[cerulean ether]

ooo interesting okay i can work with that prob

[tranquil frigate]

Tell you what

If you were to model a snow globe or something

And you provide a picture of what you would like if you were a touhou kitsune/fox looking thing (or model really whatever but ya gotta look touhou-ish)

Then I can have that rotate and do fun snow globe stuff, while letting me add some of my 2d touhou stuff

[frozen topaz]

🍮 scrap?

[tranquil frigate]

Basically that yes

[cerulean ether]

ill try my best

[urban kite]

I just got the same problem, is mimic installed, or do I need something else? constant spam in the console

[weak stag]

Fox-girl?
Tsukasa

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-tsukasa-kudamaki-kudamaki-tsukasa-gif-27338346

ez

[tranquil frigate]

If you could provide your mod list, it would help me determine the issue. Those errors are coming from so many different places that it is hard to tell

[cerulean ether]

Working on it now, just finished up what I've been spending the last week on, you might be a bit interested but prolly already figured out most of it
#1238598452137562223 message

[tranquil frigate]

Ahh shit look at that

Ya I've already figured most of it but it's still cool to see people post tutorials and stuff

[cerulean ether]

Yee

[urban kite]

018f6470-634b-8dc6-aa07-e4f3174dedde

[tranquil frigate]

Ty. I'll take a look tonight

[dapper pine]

Col. Brolli Diamondback IS a Touhou

[weak stag]

Seems the SDM crystals reset colour to white when reloading, without any mods changing

We are using BetterItemSaving tho
So it could be from that

[timid surge]

do you have more than 250 items on the ship? I may be wrong, but I don't think that SmartItemSaving modifies the limit on the item metadata count in a save

actually not sure if it was 250 for saves, I might be thinking of the number for synchronizing items from the host

[dapper pine]

I Know the Item limit is something like 30, wasn't it?

[timid surge]

looks like it's 45

although it does appear that that limit applies to the total number of items rather than their metadata separately, so it is a bit odd for that to happen I think

might be worth keeping a copy of that save and using UnityExplorer to modify the color of those crystals to see if it reverts upon save and reload

[solid beacon]

is this was an enemy, what would it do?
shrimp reskin?

https://tenor.com/view/tsukasa-kudamaki-kudamaki-tsukasa-touhou-18-touhou-touhou-mmd-gif-14076785792509454681

imagine this as a bracken and it stands up on 2 legs when spotted

[weak stag]

mayb

[dapper pine]

https://vxtwitter.com/xen0moonz_101/status/1789247479780978782?t=6WPMyP_575L3RXnN9eabIg&s=19

[tranquil frigate]

hey this is completely unrelated

but if by chance any chad here is playing Rabbit and Steel

feel free to stick this in the animation files

[dapper pine]

And Brolli Diamondback?

[tranquil frigate]

sorry for delay. I think the error is ReservedItemSlotCore

I think anyway. I'm not too sure

[tranquil frigate]

I don't recognize this name so it's not a touhou reference

As such, sorry not adding

[dapper pine]

But . . . he is?

[tranquil frigate]

well im not getting it so i need an explanation

[urban kite]

I disabled the mods one by one. The problem is this "BepInEx Faster Load AssetBundles Patcher"

Is it possible to fix this?

[tranquil frigate]

let me see what that mod does

[rare needle]

I mean this sounds like an issue for @hallow hatch and @flat leaf to look into if it's a compatibility issue with Reserved Items and Faster Load right?

[urban kite]

Reserved Items does not affect the lobby problem in any way, only scarlett mansion and faster load

[tranquil frigate]

i think i had a similar person report a similar problem

I think it's the russian translation mod sadly

now that's a weird one

If you disable "BepInEx Faster Load AssetBundles Patcher," it's fine

If you disable the Russian translation mod, it's fine

But if you have both on, my mod breaks

[urban kite]

scarlet works for me now, that's the main thing)

[flat leaf]

RTLC breaks mod?

[tranquil frigate]

NM I was wrong, I think it's not the Russian mod but XUnity_AutoTranslator

[flat leaf]

oh hmmm

[tranquil frigate]

I don't really understand why, but when I disable RTLC, but I leave XUnity on, it breaks

but, I may be able to find a solution, next update though

[dapper pine]

Brolli Diamondback was a Good Kid,
However, the Plans of Yukari can Never be denied.

[visual flax]

Problem with new LLL update

[tranquil frigate]

just released an update that fixes that

[visual flax]

oops sorry didnt saw it. thank you

[tranquil frigate]

late reply but the color of the crystals are based on its scrap value. i don't know how the scrap value got messed up but it explains its whiteness

well i say that, but even at value 0 it would be blue

maybe BetterItemSaving does something unique, ill check it later

[tranquil frigate]

i did some looking and some debugging, it's not an easy fix and i don't know how to even fix it

i will try communicating with the mod creator and see if i can find a solution

[weak stag]

Oh, well now that is VERY interesting
I do a bingo event with friends from time to time
One of the challenges is to get all sdm crystals, or rather, 5 different coloured ones or something

And our scrap value changes depending on the weather....
Previously it was an rng challenge but, this changes things

[tranquil frigate]

Well it's still mostly rng

The colors are based on the multiple of the scrap value

So like 0,7,14,21 is blue
1,8,15,22 is red or something etc.

[cerulean ether]

oh so its just a couple if MOD statements? lol

thats a fun way of doing it

[tranquil frigate]

And ez way too :P

[cerulean ether]

yeah, pretty creative, i like it

[sturdy palm]

What is the difference between Manual Level Names List and Dynamic Level Tags List? I set it as shown in the picture (Acidir: 9999) and found that there is a high probability that the original dungeon will appear in Acidir.

[tranquil frigate]

You see Enable Content Configuration at the top? That needs to be true

That will enable all changes you are doing

[tranquil frigate]

My answer

[sturdy palm]

Oh! Thank you, I'm foolish.

[tranquil frigate]

Manual Level Names is just the moon names
Dynamic Level Tags is a set of special tags (the only ones I know is All, Vanilla, and Custom)

[sturdy palm]

I roughly understand, thank you.

[lost rampart]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1WO77KGJplIEC64qmBClOgfEEoFxrhMurCEqe9FKod8I/htmlview#

That’s a list of used vanilla level tags, if for example you specify Valley:100 all moons marked Valley internally will have that weighting

Whether LLL adds more non-vanilla tags I don’t know

[tranquil frigate]

I talked with the FasterLoaerAssetBundles mod. I think they will release an update soon that fixes the issue

[urban kite]

I read this on Github, thank you very much 🥹

[dapper pine]

Pour one out for Brolli Diamondback,
Our boy Never came Home 🍺

[rare needle]

🤔

[cerulean ether]

u sure thats not just a tulip snake outside?

go disable all outside monsters first

happens to me often in vanilla

best if u have teh seed to replicate

[dusty sparrow]

this only happens when SDM is generated

[cerulean ether]

🤔

potentially then

[glad cove]

can I choose custom moons in the config of this interior?

[dapper pine]

Yes, if you have Sanguine you Should change it

[glad cove]

what is sanguine?

[tranquil frigate]

Sanguine is a custom moon themed around Touhou

[tranquil frigate]

But the original question yes

[glad cove]

ah

thank you

[tranquil frigate]

If you look at the mod page, there is an explanation near the top of the page

[glad cove]

could not find the option, I have edited the value sin lethallevelloader.cfg now

[glad cove]

thanks, will do!

[fair coral]

Any idea why two main entrance tiles would generate?

I dont know much about this mod, so Ill let lunx explain most of it xD

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate we had a funny bug happen with Vanilla generation where we got 2 main entrance generations

XD

[tranquil frigate]

now that's a new bug

i can check later to the potential cause of bug, but it may be a mod interaction

[rare needle]

It happened on PsychSanctum if that matters, I think it might be a really rare bug tbh

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate Any reason why with the basement disabled it still sometimes generates the mansion with the basement?

[tranquil frigate]

Do you mean like, both tiles spawn in the same dungeon or like it randomly ignores the config?

[rare needle]

I have Vanilla generation on so it should never generate but it still does sometimes, I almost wonder if the config is borked lol

Randomly ignores it I think

[tranquil frigate]

Probably my fault somewhere, I'll see if I can take a look tonight

[rare needle]

Okay ^^

My log if it helps at all

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate and it generated with 2 mains again XD

So I think the config is just borked, cus Bongo fixed the compat issues with Terbium I hope you manage to get it fixed lol

[tranquil frigate]

definitely my fault then lol

when i get around to looking at it, i will fix it

[rare needle]

👍

[cobalt veldt]

I'm having issues with the mod's config generation. It just keeps... vanishing? I know I had it here last night and when the config vanishes so too does the knight in my LQ list. Launching the game SHOULD regenerate missing configs, but it's not working.

[rare needle]

Sounds like a really nasty mod conflict somewhere probably

Configs don't normally do that

[tranquil frigate]

send me over your mod list and i'll take a look to which mod may be causing it

[cobalt veldt]

I got it back, it was being weird due to (LLL) not being on the right version. I don't get how or why, but 1.2.3 wasn't good enough for it.

[tranquil frigate]

For LLL, I often recommend using the latest version, and if that is acting weird, whatever the latest patch/fix is out there

[cobalt veldt]

Yeah, I typically hold off on updates to wait for bug reports before updating so I always expect something... but the weird thing is (LLL) 1.2.3 worked fine last week and neither mod updated in that time span. Whatever the issue is it's gone, but it feels like there was a third piece somewhere in the issue. Weird feedback, but just thought I'd bring it up since I found the solution to it.

[tranquil frigate]

we shall never know, LLL breaks in mysterious ways

but thanks for the info, it may become of use

[noble venture]

SDM has been great on a lot of my group's recent runs. Occasionally you see something odd like a stairway to nowhere, but it really is a great interior. It's come a long way.

Perfect for hunting fumos.

[tranquil frigate]

Tyty, it's unfortunate that my free time has dried up so I can't develop further atm but glad ya enjoy it

[main flax]

i remembered there use to be a config setting to adjust spawn weight on moons. what happened to that? or i guess we gotta use LLL or LQ

[tranquil frigate]

i moved it to LLL

[main flax]

does LLL config accept "All" or do i gotta list every moon individually?

[tranquil frigate]

it accepts All

[main flax]

sick 😮

thanks a lot

Dine:300,Rend:300,Titan:69,All:40 i hope this is legal

[tranquil frigate]

looks legal to me

[main flax]

https://tenor.com/view/rumia-rumia-fumo-fumo-fumofumo-touhou-gif-23980557

well the good news is no errors
the bad news is that All spawn weight didnt seem to apply

[tranquil frigate]

uhh

Oh I remember again

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Alice/ScarletDevilMansion/
I put all the instructions here near the top of the mod page

but it's in the dynamic level tags list section

not level names section

[main flax]

oohh

ive tried deleting the config and generating a new one too

[tranquil frigate]

that should have been fine, tbh i don't know what the issue is

[main flax]

no obvious errors on the console

[thick sage]

Next best thing to try is prob Vanilla + Modded

Or is it Custom for modded moons I forgot

[tranquil frigate]

It should be Vanilla & Custom

you can try that ya,

[main flax]

ill try that and then ill try a fresh pack with just SDM

[tranquil frigate]

wait, what version of LLL are you using? Just to be sure

[main flax]

the latest version

1.2.4

[tranquil frigate]

Huh, I remember there was a bug in the past where my dungeon wouldn't load properly if it was the only LLL mod

It's possible that a similar bug arised

[main flax]

we'll see.. ill test bit more and let u kno

[tranquil frigate]

if you get stuck, send me the log so i can take a quick glance

maybe i can find the issue from there

[main flax]

bingo

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-cirno-dance-fumo-gif-26799981

[tranquil frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt6J8yy7JDg

[main flax]

Vanilla:40,Custom:40 vanilla, custom was the solution

[tranquil frigate]

huh, that don't make a lick of sense

[main flax]

thank you very much tumble & raph 🙇‍♂️

[tranquil frigate]

maybe a recent bug

but yw

[main flax]

maybe batby changed All to a different word like Everything 🤣

[tranquil frigate]

maybe

@opal wigeon hey plz explain why the All didn't work

[glass walrus]

All isn't a thing

It's just vanilla and custom

[cerulean ether]

theres no all

thats LL

[tranquil frigate]

wut, i swear I used All before

[cerulean ether]

maybe in an old version?

[opal wigeon]

I never supported all

[tranquil frigate]

i guess i gaslight myself into thinking that it worked

[dense patio]

yeah you gotta do "Vanilla:" and "Custom:"

[cerulean ether]

oh my god im message number 6666 in here

[tranquil frigate]

You son of a

You stole it

[cerulean ether]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-proud-gif-22702585

[noble venture]

theft

burglary

bamboozling

https://tenor.com/view/cache-cache-cat-side-cat-quoi-what-gif-5790729593365418161

How dares.

[balmy ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-shiteyanyo-mmd-gif-15367705

[tranquil frigate]

Calling out for help. Custom enemy. Why the hell is the player being pushed by the enemy collider, but it doesn't trigger the OnTriggerStay function unless you try really hard to enter the collider.

I've been stuck on this for the past 4 hours

I did not have this issue for the knight, it's just this new enemy. I even copied knight's nav mesh agent and collider to the new enemy, same issue.

Truly cursed

[opal wigeon]

are the layers right

[tranquil frigate]

I have checked 20 times I'm sure

Just for sanity sake, I disabed the enemy collider to make sure there wasn't a rogue collider. Nope no issues. The enemy collider is pushing the player

Which means that collider should be triggering the OnTriggerStay function

but it doesn't

[cerulean ether]

can i look at the collider?

theres 2 reasons for hte player being pushed

[tranquil frigate]

no

one sec

[cerulean ether]

im confused, no? 😭

[tranquil frigate]

being a joker here

one sec

[cerulean ether]

oh lmao, sorry im a bit daft

[cerulean ether]

your collision detection

on the rigidbody

shouldnt be continuous

make it discrete

other than that, looks good to me

[tranquil frigate]

it was continous for the original enemy that i was copying

and it was discrete earlier, where it still have issues

[cerulean ether]

continuous means the rigidbody is able to collide with colliders

[tranquil frigate]

but, ill will try again

[cerulean ether]

which u don't want basically

[tranquil frigate]

discrete and continuous should be the same, it only affects how physics interaction fixes itself

[cerulean ether]

if you're still being pushed past this, then the enemy type scriptable object also has a force push thing that you might've allowed

[tranquil frigate]

perhaps

WAIT

it does

shit

[cerulean ether]

yeah, it's a v50 thing

[tranquil frigate]

ima trying halfing it and see whats up

[cerulean ether]

this is what im currently using to be clear and the player goes through the enemy just fine

[opal wigeon]

gravity and trigger

is it just falling into the void

[tranquil frigate]

if trigger on, gravity does nothing

[opal wigeon]

no

[cerulean ether]

nono, if "kinematic" is on, gravity does nothing

[tranquil frigate]

sorry i mean kinematic

almost same thing

[opal wigeon]

ok but gravity is on

[cerulean ether]

ye, gravity gets autodisabled when kinematic is on

[opal wigeon]

ah fair

should turn it off for sanity sake tho

[cerulean ether]

yeah that's what i do

[opal wigeon]

your 100% sure the model doesn't have a collider doing it?

[tranquil frigate]

i turned off the enemy collider to be sure for a test, no other collider

but im trying the discrete + reducing the push force by 25%

[opal wigeon]

if its set to trigger

thats not the one pushing the player

period

[cerulean ether]

if that doesn't work, then probably need to take a deeper look at your other gameobjects

[cerulean ether]

oh nah it does

[opal wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-wide-cat-scropts-gif-27699673

[cerulean ether]

all my colliders are IsTrigger and the player gets pushed with zeeker's push force thing

[tranquil frigate]

it was the fuckin push force

[cerulean ether]

figured it's the second reason, lol

[cerulean ether]

that is horrifying

[tranquil frigate]

@rare needle a month later I checked the bug but I can't repliate the multiple main tiles

alright pushed that update, the new enemy doesn't have anything that special yet (nor do they drop a cool special knife), but I don't know exactly what I would want to do with them yet. But it's been a long while since an update, might as well push something

Open to suggestions, but not anything too crazy. There are essentially skins and not a new enemy here

[main flax]

yeah nothing too crazy…
i think u should add every touhou character. fully animated & voiced.
turn the inside of the SDM into a bullet bell.
not too ambitious and can be easily done.

[tranquil frigate]

Ya you're fired

[main flax]

nnoooo

so besides the coilhead and butler, have you reskinned any other enemies?

[tranquil frigate]

No and don't plan to. My resources will be used a lot better if I focus on the interior itself

The enemy was just something extra for the fun and flavour of it, but it takes a lot of time for relatively little return

[cerulean ether]

enemies are painful yeah

kind of, idk it just feels like nowadays i can get an enemy polished in a couple days but when i started it took me like a month lol

[main flax]

xu “the lethal enemy expert” xiaolan

[tranquil frigate]

Btw I'm still waiting on that snow globe

[main flax]

i had this interior + meltdown

and i told my friend “my hands are full, could u go get the painting in that room?”

i dipped real quick 🙊

[cerulean ether]

we got a bit carried away making the snowglobe

[main flax]

holy

[tranquil frigate]

Now that's sick

[main flax]

pretty

[tranquil frigate]

You sent your friend to their death?

[cerulean ether]

yeah, i dont even remember the initial reason for making the snowglobe anymore 😂

[tranquil frigate]

I wanted to put funny touhou characters in there

[main flax]

i gotta keep them on their toes. teach them that danger lurks in unexpected places.

[cerulean ether]

oh true, it was majorly made by someone else in my team so ill ask if i can share it the model and stuff like that

[tranquil frigate]

Mkay, let them know how they want to credited

[main flax]

i think i remember the config showing an option for how many painting rooms there are

and the default is 2 iirc

makes me wonder if u could trigger 2 meltdowns.. or maybe only 1 happens

[tranquil frigate]

That would be based on Meltdown, and I believe they only allow one

Since meltdown is based on thr apparatus event, which is only 1 normally, and I'm just using their API

[main flax]

ah okay

[south schooner]

https://i.gyazo.com/dfb8a346c8cbd8c7aaee66ccbd524e6e.png painting spawned like this.

[main flax]

how about adding a knife related trap to the interior?
or a sakuya room tile with a guaranteed sakuya butler and knife traps.
knife traps throw knives across the room/tile.
could be timed to be predictable or u see a glowy after-image before it actually passes through.
idk if that’s the kind of suggestion ur looking for. 🤷‍♂️

or not a throwing knife trap, but similar to the spike trap but its knives coming out of the ground.
or both

[tranquil frigate]

It looks like the painting was trying to spawn as a normal scrap. I would need a mod list since it's probably a mod conflict

[rare needle]

Keep in mind the bug only started after the new update

[tranquil frigate]

That's a big mod list, let me ask to make sure what I saw on the picture

[tranquil frigate]

I assume the painting spawned on the wall but for some reason it spawned flat like that, and it clipped to the nearby room?

[rare needle]

Yeah kind of lol

[tranquil frigate]

With a mod list as big as yours, I'm just gonna have to wait for the next complaint

Since that mod list is too huge to find the culprit

[cerulean ether]

just credit them for the snowglobe's stuff that you keep, SolidStone (person who made shockwave drone), so what do ya want me to send you? just the mesh model?

[tranquil frigate]

the mesh model and whatever else you are doing to create that snowglobe effect (unity prefab, particles, script I guess)

that way i could recreate that cool-ass effect

[cerulean ether]

alright, ill be saving it all as a unity package, and sending a couple scripts, keep in mind it's gonna be a bit more than you expect purely because it messes with player animator (only when held)

[tranquil frigate]

i see i see, ill do my best 🫡

[cerulean ether]

do ya allow dms btw?

[tranquil frigate]

yuh, send it over through dms

along with one meme to know its you

[cerulean ether]

alright, when unity decides to open ill be able to send it

[tranquil frigate]

gotta finish the polish and test out multiplayer, but this is the concept of the maid's knife. hurt yourself but get a guaranteed one shot kill on anything

gotta make sure that you can't oneshot your friend though

[tranquil frigate]

new knife added, dropped by the maid. made the maid take a bit more longer to get aggressive

[main flax]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-fumo-raiden-shogun-raiden-ei-sakuya-gif-26453269

[tranquil frigate]

don't know if the knife is way too strong for its effect. if it is, i could make the maid's death spawn a knight to chase you down

[main flax]

very cool knife

[tranquil frigate]

just don't off yourself with it

im serious, the knife's self damage is real

[main flax]

is it only when u hold it?

[tranquil frigate]

only when you feed it

so you choose when to hurt yourself

but its a lot of damage

[main flax]

i’d rather have control over my death than let those monsters take me

[tranquil frigate]

at the least your friend will have a strong weapon in return

[main flax]

becoming one with the knife

want to say i appreciate ur work on this mod
and the various other contributions you’ve made to this modding community
🫡

[tranquil frigate]

just doing God's work

and spreading Touhou how i can

[silver hare]

Would it be possible to have the maid's knife deal damage equal to 50% of your max health instead of just dealing 50 damage? With how it is right now, you can use the Stimpack upgrade from Late Game Upgrades to increase your max health and then use the knife more than once per life, which makes it a little OP and kind of defeats the purpose of it. By doing so it'd keep the same functionality while also preventing people from trying to get around the 50 damage "cost"

[tulip cosmos]

This is absolutely my favorite interior mod out there. I kind of wish there was a config for where/how often it can spawn so I can get it more but otherwise this is SO COOL and I love it

The amount of just. Things on this map is absolutely preposterous and I can't believe this is a thing.

[tranquil frigate]

Sure I can try to see if I can do that

[tranquil frigate]

And thanks

[tranquil frigate]

Oh you edit the spawn rate with the LLL config. I explain how to do it on my mod page

How to load on custom moons with Lethal Level Loader

that section, well I guess I should include editing spawn rate in the sentence

[tranquil frigate]

I was hoping that there was a max health value for the player script, but it's 100 by default. Late game upgrades does a lot stuff in the background to increase the max health and it's not worth it for this small combability feature (other mods in the future may change max health too).

What I can do is 50% of the current health, or 50 health, whichever is higher

[tranquil frigate]

Plz send me all bug or mod combability issues now or forever hold your peace. v1.3.19 will be the last update for v1.3 with the snowglobe item (it will just be a valuable 2-handed scrap)

I will skipping v1.4 and just going for v2.0 after this. That will be the definite "release" update (can you call it a release when this "beta" has been out for 6 months). It will include the outdoor tiles, another dungeon event that involves a timer instead, and a treasure room.

Along with any other fun stuff I want to add

[elfin vortex]

That’s huge

[dry crypt]

Thats what she said

[tranquil frigate]

Mods, castrate this fool ^

[dry crypt]

NOOOOO

[elfin vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-touhou-project-yuyuko-saigyouji-gif-25812564

[silver hare]

sure that works, i figured there was going to be some sort of issue like that. thanks

[tranquil frigate]

@cerulean ether all thanks to her and her army

[tranquil frigate]

i cannot believe that GrabClipboard is an animator parameter and HoldClipboard is the actual animation to override

2 hours to learn that I f'ing swear

ill release once i get a touhou sound file for this

[main flax]

[cerulean ether]

[frozen topaz]

Oh these look really cool

[tranquil frigate]

@warm blade @cerulean ether thank these two for this

update coming on in a hot minute

item + new pit room + *some *safety railings for the pit rooms

[cerulean ether]

look sooo nice

[tranquil frigate]

im actually gonna have one more update for v2.0

since I have to do the snowglobe animator properly, and I want to add a few more mansion room variants

[cerulean ether]

properly teehee

[south schooner]

nah, fast pace the snowglobe with the entirety of Bad Apple (the remix one with the vocals) 🙂

/joke

[elfin vortex]

snowglobes that play the corresponding character theme but the mod file is so big I gotta buy another ssd 🙏

[elfin vortex]

real talk though this is amazing

[cerulean ether]

, it's okay, 20 seconds of an audio clip with good quality can be compressed to like 200kb or less anyway

[elfin vortex]

o really?

you learn something every day

[cerulean ether]

yeah ogg is great, this audio clip is 52 seconds

[elfin vortex]

damn that's neat

[weak stirrup]

interior doesn't load properly for clients, this happened before and after v56

[tranquil frigate]

Never had the interior loading problems, I would need your mod list

[weak stirrup]

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
notnotnotswipez-MoreCompany-1.9.4
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.7.7
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.16.0
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-FixPluginTypesSerialization-1.1.1
Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2022.11.9
xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI-2.2.0
MegaPiggy-EnumUtils-1.0.3
SolidStone-SolidLib-1.1.4
Sigurd-CSync-5.0.1
Owen3H-CSync-3.0.1
ShaosilGaming-GeneralImprovements-1.3.0
AlexCodesGames-AdditionalContentFramework-1.0.3
AlexCodesGames-AdditionalSuits-2.0.0
BMX-LobbyCompatibility-1.1.0
AinaVT-LethalConfig-1.4.2
malco-Lategame_Upgrades-3.9.0
WhiteSpike-Interactive_Terminal_API-1.1.2
mrov-TerminalFormatter-0.2.18
darmuh-darmuhsTerminalStuff-3.2.5
darmuh-ghostCodes-2.0.6
Zaggy1024-OpenBodyCams-2.2.1
AVeryGoodTeam-SomePriceMod-1.0.1
IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader-1.2.4
IAmBatby-LethalToolbox-1.0.2
MaxWasUnavailable-LethalModDataLib-1.2.2
mrov-DisplayAllMoons-0.0.2
Hardy-LCMaxSoundsFix-1.2.0
fumiko-CullFactory-1.1.4
Tolian-Sanguine-0.4.3
Alice-ScarletDevilMansion-1.3.19
Magic_Wesley-Infernis-4.0.5
Magic_Wesley-Atlantica-3.0.6
Magic_Wesley-Oldred-2.0.9
s1ckboy-Seichi-0.6.4
WiderStein-LertzMod-1.0.6
Tolian-Zenit-0.8.5
LethalMatt-Bozoros-1.0.1
Magic_Wesley-WesleysInteriors-1.2.3
RosiePies-CozyOffice-1.2.1
RosiePies-Sector0_Interior-2.0.3
mrov-MrovLib-0.1.5
mrov-WeatherRegistry-0.1.13
mrov-BetaWeatherTweaksBeta-0.20.8
loaforc-FacilityMeltdown-2.6.12
zealsprince-Malfunctions-1.8.7
XuXiaolan-CodeRebirth-0.1.9
AudioKnight-StarlancerAIFix-3.6.0
AudioKnight-StarlancerEnemyEscape-2.4.2
TheFluff-FairAI-1.3.6
Entity378-SellBodiesFixed-1.9.1
Bobbie-UniTask-2.5.0
Bobbie-NAudio-2.2.2
qwbarch-BarchLib-1.0.2
qwbarch-Mirage-1.8.0
Zehs-KidnapperFoxSettings-1.0.0
zealsprince-Locker-1.2.2
XuXiaolan-TheGiantSpecimens-2.1.5
SolidStone-ShockwaveDroneEnemy-0.6.2
SurfacedTeam-Surfaced-1.0.3
Dev1A3-BetterVehicleControls-1.1.0
DiggC-CruiserImproved-1.0.3
DiFFoZ-CompanyCruiserFix-1.0.3
EladNLG-EladsHUD-1.3.0
Woecust-Immersive_Visor-0.5.2
slayer6409-Emergency_Dice_Updated-1.2.5

Inoyu-Giant_Extension_Ladders-3.2.0
TestAccount666-GoodItemScan-1.1.0

[tranquil frigate]

Ty, let me update the mod today (I've been wanting to but I've been sick the past 2 days). Then I'll see what's up

By chance, do you have advancedcompany loaded

[weak stirrup]

no

been trying my best to find substitutes for it lately btw lol

(LGU and SomePricingMod are great options)

[tranquil frigate]

Sadly good luck with that, no good substitute.

Anyway, I'll try and let you know today

[weak stirrup]

it's kind of inconsistent as well

loads for me always, loaded for one client up until recently, does not load for a different client at all

though it's less of not loading, more like being desynced, where they see the interior in a different place

as the default mansion as well

[tranquil frigate]

Ohh hmm

By chance, do you have different LLL configs compared to your friends?

I have had happen to me once, and my current theory is that

[weak stirrup]

I'll ask them when I can

swear it should have synced with sharing it through code right

[tranquil frigate]

You right it should sync, so maybe that's not it

But if the LLL configs are synced and the interior loading is still desynced, then we have a bug to fix

But I'll check it

[opal wigeon]

In theory that shouldn't be relevant

LLL should be only caring about the host's config

[tranquil frigate]

and i believe you, but i had one game session where my friend desynced on me (my interior conveniently enough)

so something is happening, no clue what but something

my friends wont like it but ima try and rope them into a bug finding session for this desync

[tranquil frigate]

Updated to final v.1.3.20 version: inspired by some things I saw when trying out other people's interiors (I got to play the game lmao). Some new tiles, some more visuals/sound effects to the pit rooms

[rare needle]

Final? ;o

[tranquil frigate]

Final for v.1.3 (except for any quick bug patchs)

The true "final" update is the next one, v2.0. It's not the final one but it's the final major update. Release date a while

[balmy ibex]

i love my finalfinalfinal folder

[rare needle]

Haha

[balmy ibex]

another pit room

[tranquil frigate]

i gotta push a fix since i left a ceiling open

also i noticed that the jump puzzles for one of the new pit rooms is just too brutal, so i gotta fix that

uhh tomorrow though

[tranquil frigate]

the new pit room is more like a fancy stair room with the chance of failing if panicing or if you get pushed around

[tranquil frigate]

question, has anyone got this error spam with my mod in multiplayer

[Error : Unity Log] [Netcode-Server Sender=1] Destroy a spawned NetworkObject on a non-host client is not valid. Call Destroy or Despawn on the server/host instead.

[rare needle]

I've seen that error before in my logs but never knew what mod it was from

So yeah

[tranquil frigate]

hmmst, ill be on the search for that

[tranquil frigate]

Alright I patched up that missing ceiling and I decided to make my keys red so they can stand out a little better in the black and white mansion

[rare needle]

https://tenor.com/view/this-peaks-memes-gif-16921095133411355177

[tranquil frigate]

I didn't know that I had to do that

my bad @dusty sparrow

[rare needle]

I was surprised you never did it sooner 😂 I manually set it to 9999 for that moon a long time ago though

[tranquil frigate]

I assumed that the moons could decide the interiors, apparently they never were able to

So truly I trolled Tolian hard

[rare needle]

Lol

[tranquil frigate]

Oh I didn't state but I did remove the pit hallway room that was a straight line (with one entrance and exit doorway)

Found it too boring and tedious for its boredom

[rare needle]

Lol

[dusty sparrow]

yum yum

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate Just a small bug to report with the SnowGlobe, for me as the host I could hold it correctly and also see clients holding it correctly but for clients they were seeing it held improperly. I wanted to let you know so you can look into it

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate 🤔

[tranquil frigate]

Vacationing at Vegas, will look at later

[cerulean ether]

damn, i wanna gamble too

[vale tide]

does this interior tank performance, i wanna play it but i only got a laptop that usually gets 30-50 fps on lethal

[tranquil frigate]

You'll have to get experiences from other people. I want to say with cullfactory and the low poly count for each room prop should make it easy on your laptop

[vale tide]

ok thanks

[harsh zodiac]

How has this interior been working for you?

[rare needle]

It works fine

[tranquil frigate]

Wut? That's a scary one

[rare needle]

Yeah I'm gonna guess that's why clients couldn't see the Snow Globe held properly and only the Host can

[main flax]

in the config for Dungeon Painting Event.. is "Enemy List" specifically for the bedroom enemy or throughout the entire dungeon?

[tranquil frigate]

Only for the bedroom event

[main flax]

ok cool

whats a valid enemy name for sakuya

[tranquil frigate]

And it only spawns the monster if that moon could spawn the monster

Uhh, I actually don't remember at all

Could be maid

[main flax]

are they included in the enemy list's default?

[tranquil frigate]

The log will tell you if it works

[main flax]

currently says "The following string "default" is a preset that uses the following string "knight@s1,crawler,nutcracker,springman,maskedplayerenemy,jester@s1,butler"."

[main flax]

alright

[tranquil frigate]

Maid is not in the default list yet, as she would be not threatening

Hell, bulter by himself isn't threatening either. I gotta make them angry immediately or something

[main flax]

oh i assumed they get angry right away or something coz butler was on the list

is jester also not instantly angered too?

[tranquil frigate]

They don't have special spawn logic, just haven't touched it yet

Jester has that special logic

[main flax]

ah ok

thanks for ur answers

actually one more question.. could i use other modded enemies in the list?

[tranquil frigate]

Ya, there's no issues

Either their display name or internal name should work

The log will tell you if they found the enemy with the name provided, and if it errored

Even if it errors, nothing breaks

[main flax]

is that a challenge?

[young geyser]

Finally got the chance to try this on Sanguine, incredible interior

My group was trying to figure out ||if the crimson keys or rotateable portraits did anything but doesn't seem so||
Host and clients seemed to see different variants of the snowglobes too, but that could've been a bug from another mod since we had a few item related issues.

Probably my favorite interior though, great job

[tranquil frigate]

||the keys are just red to stand out better in the grayscale map, they are normal keys otherwise. The portrait's rotation was originally added with the idea of the player marking the path back to the entrance, but it didn't really work out in practice||

But the snowglobes variants should be based on the item's price, maybe it's a mod issue maybe it's a me issue but I don't know

But thanks for trying it out

[elder python]

I love your Scarlet Devil Mansion interior so much. If there was a way to mount the paintings on your ship, they would be so much better

[solid beacon]

that sounds fun

[rare needle]

Should work if you use this probably https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Mellowdy/NoNailsRequired/

[elder python]

I'll give it a shot, thank you

Oh yeah, there's something that's been bugging me. I swear I've seen the butler and the knight almost every time I go to the mansion, the maid has been virtually absent (painting events not included). Just how rare is she?

[tranquil frigate]

She's essentially the same rarity as the butler, but she doesn't spawn from the painting event

Maybe she is too rare or maybe her spawn rate is bugged or may she's bugged herself but I can't really verify till later

[rare needle]

I feel like the spawns pretty balanced in my game tbh

[lost arrow]

I've never seen either but I haven't played SDM in a long time

It will 100% be included in Chaos Company v2

[tranquil frigate]

Well she was added like a month-ish ago

[tranquil frigate]

Good to know. Even in my own friend playthroughs, the butler be rare

[lost arrow]

Yeah I've never seen the Knight tho

[rare needle]

I still dunno how I feel about the Knight lol

[lost arrow]

I love the Butler, I have them spawn pretty frequently on Gorgonzola and they like dying to spike traps XD

[rare needle]

I like the Red Variant otherwise I kinda dislike them XD

[tranquil frigate]

If you play with AC, it's possible you never seen the Knight. Otherwise it's crazy luck

[tranquil frigate]

Care to explain out of curiosity?

[lost arrow]

Oh? Why does AC break it?

[rare needle]

Lol it's more so they like to spawn at the worst times and show up out of the blue

😂

[lost arrow]

I used to play with it, and may or may not for modpack v2, so I'm curious

[rare needle]

and I also hate that the Peeper from LGU doesn't work on them

;c

lol

[tranquil frigate]

Not that AC breaks them, but AC does so many changes to the LC code that I can't account for them

[lost arrow]

Ah that's fair enough then

[tranquil frigate]

Also AC is banned from thunderstore so I can't fix the code for them easily

[tranquil frigate]

The knight likes to spawn near yall, so I purposely make them slower than a normal coilhead to balance them

[rare needle]

Yeah XD

[harsh zodiac]

Also in ChaosCompany_1.0

[elder python]

Normal!Knight spawns in every moon or 2, but the Maid has been practically absent in general. I even took a look at the configs and their spawn rates are about the same. They even overtake the Butler and the Coilheads. She's been weirdly absent, which is unfortunate because the Maid's Knife is the only unique scrap item I haven't gotten in a while now

[lost arrow]

Could she be bugged atm?

[harsh zodiac]

I might be chiming in without knowing what I’m fully talking about but if you declare a rarity for some modded entities, then watch the console as it calls out their spawn probability, the weights do not match up for half the modded enemies I use

I don’t know why on a technical level this is happening in v56

But this may be related to what’s happening here

have you watched the console to see what it says the spawn chance for the Maid actually comes out to once you’re landed on a moon?

[tranquil marsh]

iirc enemy spawns work similar-ish to interior spawns but are mroe complicated too, yo ucan assign each a number and it will pool all of the numbers together and then make a % probability to determine which oen can spawn based on the games current power level and how much power each enemy needs to be able to spawn alongside the time of day and how many entities of that type have spawned. It works in curves and has different algorithms for nighttime and daytime. So numbers never really align or represent any true %

[elder python]

Sorry for the late response, but figured as much. The only thing I'm afraid of is that whatever I have set up is either making the odds of her appearance extremely low, or not at all. But that's only part of it really, because not even the Butler has shown up on other Moons

[tranquil frigate]

since the maid's weight is based on the butler's, that would explain why you havent seen both

[elder python]

Now to figure out why the butler has been absent

[harsh zodiac]

how hardcoded is this? what if you declare separate rarities with LQ or CC

[tranquil frigate]

i dont know how LQ or CC works, but my code directly grabs the the butler/coil-head's weight after the dungeon generation finishes, reduces the weight, and uses the reduced amount as the corresponding's monsters weight

if you modify the maid/knight's weight with LQ or CC, I don't know what would happen tbh

[harsh zodiac]

if its after dungen im thinking your method will take precedence

i'll find out

[arctic veldt]

Hi can someone check this with me, i found a problem when you load ScarletMansionMimicsPatch.dll with mimics installed my ram usage goes form 7.75GB Average to 12-13 GB

[young geyser]

Are you sure the only mod you added was Mimics? I don't think it should be taking 4+ GB of RAM

[dry crypt]

Het uhm

speaking of which

753

What mods does Mimic have compatibility with?

and not by default

I mean like custom fire exit doors

or do people do that on their own

[young geyser]

So far only maps that have similar fire exit setups to vanilla, as well as Scarlet Devil Mansion which is the only interior using a compatibility API PR'd by @tranquil frigate

[tranquil frigate]

I agree with the others, the patch .dll is only 10kb. Some other mod is a amiss

[dry crypt]

There should be more that have compatibility

I do have a moon idea I kinda wanna do

I wanna make it heavily western themed