Starlancer Moons v3.2.0 / Starlancer Warehouse v1.7.0

[limpid portal]

Yep!

[hearty bluff]

earlier game / lower difficulty moons are super appreciated

our big play group is mostly a lot of players who aren't super great at the game and they struggle quite a bit on more challenging moons, but love variety with the more accessible stuff

[limpid portal]

I'm glad you like it! I find the verticality to be a lot of fun as well :3

[hearty bluff]

I spotted the grate holes, committed myself to not fall in one and then fell in one very shortly afterwards

[limpid portal]

I'd love to see peoples' funny clips 🤭

[hearty bluff]

It might be worth hitting up Wesley for a possible way to have the fog lethal without it just being a fall death with a physical impact at the bottom. I'm pretty sure Infernis manages to have lethal lava effects and something similar could potentially work well for the gas giant drop

I know they've got acid water on Acidir that is also lethal as soon as you touch it

[limpid portal]

Yeah I've been trying to get it to do something more interesting using base LC scripting, but I haven't had any luck lol

[silk tusk]

waitwhat

It's lethal 😅 ... totally... knew that

totally not gonna have +1% more stress making certain jumps..

[hybrid obsidian]

do triskelion and auralis have some special command to access them

because they dont seem to show up

[onyx dirge]

Can definitely say no to that one, because its currently in Masa's list

[limpid portal]

If you're using Lethal Expansion at the same time as LLL, make sure you have LethalExpansionCore instead

[hybrid obsidian]

ok i've fixed it

thanks

[limpid portal]

👍

[barren flume]

@limpid portal map with scarlet devil mansion is really laggy

auralis is

[limpid portal]

Performance issues seem to be a bit common with SDM. Auralis has near vanilla performance for me, so I'm not sure there's anything to be done on my end for that

[onyx dirge]

Near vanilla performance here too

But then again Triskelion isnt lagging for Masa as well @.@

[limpid portal]

That's because I patched the performance yesterday 🤭

[onyx dirge]

Oh! Amazing! :D

Absolutely love the map

[limpid portal]

Thank you! 💙

[onyx dirge]

💜 !!!!

Really wish there was a mod out there that allows you to organize the moon list though :C

[limpid portal]

I think LLL might be working on that

[onyx dirge]

omg please 🙏

Really want to theme the moon list around their environments better and Masa wants to line up Acidir, Hydro & Triskelion together because murky swamps & acidic theme

[limpid portal]

That's a great idea!

[onyx dirge]

Mhm!

[hearty bluff]

Triskelion is a winner in my book

[onyx dirge]

Real, very real

If Triskelion was volcanic instead of green it would feel like fighting Baboon Hawks is like re-enacting Anakin vs Obi Wan LOL

Lil shits are so painful to deal with

[limpid portal]

It's always subject to a shift in artistic design 🤭

[onyx dirge]

Ohh, yuh! But tbh, the green does make it unique. ^^

Do you have any more moon plans? :'o

[limpid portal]

I do actually have one more idea!

[onyx dirge]

👀

[frozen dove]

Thanks to this moon the company is eating good

[proud hornet]

Just experienced the new moon

The first thing I committed was falling to the gaps 👍

Other than that, I love the design of the moon and how the fire exits are relatively close to each other.

(We don't talk about the baboon hawks)

[onyx dirge]

We now have the holy trinity of Baboon Hawks

Aquatis, Vertigo & Triskelion

[crimson helm]

The concept of an outpost above a gas giant is just so so cool

[bright eagle]

triskelion is piss easy ngl

[bright eagle]

got 1.8 K worth of loot in 3 days

1 death

almost no enemies

[limpid portal]

Inside and out?

[bright eagle]

yea

outside was a baboon hawk every day

and 1 day had 5 peepers but

thats it

[barren flume]

I’crease it with ac or low

[limpid portal]

Just for clarity, "a" baboon hawk, as in singular?

[bright eagle]

?

[bright eagle]

yea

[limpid portal]

Almost certain that's some kind of mod conflict then.

Bc that's almost impossible

[bright eagle]

peepers could have been eating the spawns

[limpid portal]

Inside enemies don't affect outside spawn counts

[bright eagle]

there was also a shy guy I think on one of the days now that I remember

[bright eagle]

peepers are outdoor enemies

[frozen dove]

Yeah I dunno I had a good mix of thumpers, spiders, lootbugs and brackens from afternoon and early, sounds like something you're using is affecting spawns

[bright eagle]

I did have a few enemies but it felt like

offense/march level

in terms of indoors

[limpid portal]

I have no idea what those are lol, but if something is injecting enemies into my moon I can't really do anything about the spawn weights

[bright eagle]

and like experimentation for outside

[limpid portal]

So that's something I don't think I can fix

[bright eagle]

all the other moons seem fine

with the same mods

also having 4 entrances withjout a hard / far walk makes it super easy to scower the entire place fast

one dayu we had like 700 by 1pm or something

[limpid portal]

Iunno. My moons are balanced for basegame spawns, so it's possible that like you said, other things are just capitalizing on the spawn power too much. It's meant to be an intermediate moon, not brutal. The baboon hawks are kinda key to the experience though, as they do make the outside more dangerous

It's balanced to be slightly below Rend as far as difficulty, which it roughly achieves without additional mods

[bright eagle]

I think the combo of short distance to entrances + 4 of em

allows a team to just sweep through it fast

before things really are able to spawn

[limpid portal]

After I play more with some friends I might take a look at the spawns, but yea an experienced team will likely not be challenged by Triskelion lol

[bright eagle]

we got like 600 when going to vertigo another modded moon that was cheaper

had many deaths

[bright eagle]

dont use AC whats low

[frozen dove]

Hey Audio Knight! Our group just played some Auralis and I have some feedback, I see that it mentions a high enemy power limits and I have witnessed this first hand, now the biggest problem here isn't the enemies (although we had like 5 giants on one day 💀) but the number of audio creating enemies, to my understanding too many things making sound starts to cull other sounds and in this case late in a day or eclipsed we couldn't hear jetpack sounds, footsteps, giant spotting sounds, giant footsteps, coilheads, thumpers etc etc

What exactly is the power limit for the moon and what are the spawn caps? I saw about 8 baboon hawks one day, my mate reported like 5 dogs and I saw a good 5 or maybe 6 giants

Also on Triskelion (and probably Auralis) employees too eager to get out can be put in Jail, be sure to keep an eye on your eager colleagues

[limpid portal]

Copy that on the audio issues. Inside: 22, Outside: 13. I hadn't been considering the enemy noises as part of the audio glitching problem, but it makes total sense. I'm actually doing some tweaking right now, bc I think I may have misunderstood how the enemy spawn rarities work lol

[limpid portal]

Huh, that's a new one for me

[frozen dove]

I think the same thing can happen at the company building with getting stuck under the ship, some well deserved jail time 😂

[limpid portal]

Do you mean they jump out before landing is completed?

[frozen dove]

Yep and get trapped lmao

[limpid portal]

Incredible lol

But thankfully that's not my problem since that can happen in base game 🤭

[frozen dove]

Yeah absolutely 100% skill issue on his behalf 🤣

[barren flume]

lq

[bright eagle]

ive had issues with it

[limpid portal]

• StarlancerMoons 0.5.2
  • Adjusted spawn rarities and power caps on both Auralis and Triskelion. I had been misunderstanding the way the spawning works, so it should be more consistent (and slightly less brutal on the exterior of Auralis early in the day).
  • Made one of the fire exits on Triskelion unreachable without an extension ladder or jetpack, for balance purposes. It is still possible to hop down from that area onto the platform below without suffering fall damage.
  • Decreased the number of exterior spawn points on Triskelion.
  • Slightly increased the chance for the mansion tileset to spawn on Triskelion.
  • Made some small adjustments to scrap spawns on Triskelion.
  • The immense pressure of the gas below the Triskelion outpost is now immediately lethal.
    • No more waiting until you hit the "out of bounds" plane :)
  • Added a surprise tool that will help you later.

[silk tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-tool-mickey-mouse-mickey-clubhouse-gif-18764497

[limpid portal]

Update is live on r2modman!

[limpid portal]

it slipped my mind that the surprise tool respawns, so enjoy that for the time being, I'll adjust it later

[late tendon]

What’s the new chance for the mansion tileset?

[limpid portal]

5

Factory is 295

[tender ember]

ladder too narrow, damn these traffic jams

ok it cleared now nvm

[limpid portal]

Lmao I can't tell if you were reporting an actual bug

[tender ember]

we had some enemies stuck but it solved itself after a while 😅

[limpid portal]

riiiip lol

[hearty bluff]

Stoked looking forward to eventual custom interiors too

[limpid portal]

• StarlancerMoons 0.5.3
  • Fixed a visual issue with the liquid/gas below Triskelion sometimes having its original color bleed through.
  • Moved the surprise tool so that it's not in such a cheese-able spot. It still respawns each time (no way to change this just yet) but I want to keep it in the level regardless.
  • Fixed the fire exit doors on Auralis not having the correct material.
  • Removed the possibility of Stormy weather on Triskelion. A shovel planet should not have anti-shovel weather.
  • Adjusted spawn rates again. I went a little heavy-handed in 0.5.2, but I don't have the old spawn curves, so I used some vanilla curves for reference this time.
  • Rebaked navmesh on Triskelion to hopefully help Baboon Hawks not block up the stairs as much.
  • Removed some disabled audio sources on Auralis. Unity's audio limitation is frustrating, but I'm hoping the next LLL update will help with this.

As usual, I'll try to post when r2modman grabs it for y'all :)

[pine shoal]

Removed the possibility of Stormy weather on Triskelion. A shovel planet should not have anti-shovel weather.

https://tenor.com/view/water-monke-drown-meme-human-vs-monke-gif-21432396

happy to see an update though

[limpid portal]

I have no idea if that's a positive or negative reaction

[pine shoal]

Nor do I for the most part

[limpid portal]

Well, so long as we're on the same page then

[limpid portal]

I just felt it was backwards to have the moon say "bring a shovel" and then murder you for having a shovel

[pine shoal]

I'm just masochistic don't mind me

[limpid portal]

Wait til 9PM and then go solo the hawks

and clip it

[pine shoal]

with a ladder and not a shovel

[limpid portal]

weaaaaaaaaaak

[limpid portal]

It lives \[T]/

Until the newest ripper tool goes live and LLL gets its update, I'm gonna chill on the moons for a few lol

Short of any major bugs, of course

[frozen dove]

Counterpoint, a shovel planet should make use of shovels conducting lightning strikes and giving them to baboon hawks to steal

[pine shoal]

I have definitely given baboons crates of bottles on stormy days intentionally

[frozen dove]

They know what I have done

Also @limpid portal I found a bug on Triskelion where if you die to falling into the green drink your body loses all collision and cannot be retrieved by teleport, or at least my friend couldn't grab it fast enough

I'll get a clip rendered

[limpid portal]

Interesting. I've actually seen that happen in base game, but falling into the gas isn't supposed to spawn a body at all, similar to when a forest keeper eats you. The idea is the pressure has completely crushed your body. Let me know if it's consistently repeatable

[limpid portal]

This is true, my friend clipped me giving a hawk a cog after he died holding it. Was quite funny, but my reasoning stands firm

[frozen dove]

Totally understandable, well that just means I get to smack more baboon hawks in the face 😂

[sonic sable]

i have a lot of fun when using sewer plus auralis, everytime i get it it's pretty cool, (ik this is from a while back but thats my op on the matter)

[frozen dove]

Oh that's another thing I ment to mention, I know it's not really a big thing but we play with Maskedenemyoverhaul so we have masked on all moons, they can't seem to path onto the ship from the platform on Triskelion, they just sort of stand there... MENACINGLY!!!

[limpid portal]

Ahh I think that's an issue on Auralis as well. I'll look into it later, navmesh is a headache lol

Just think of it as them trapping you in the ship for now

[limpid portal]

Wow that's... Horrifying

[frozen dove]

Not my image fortunately but I find it really funny, it was from a bug where the masked kept duping out a convert 😅

[tender ember]

oh by the way

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1204213031249117308

have you seen this one?

[frozen dove]

I was not aware, thank you for bringing this up!

[tender ember]

yeah i hope as much people as possible hear of this mod

[limpid portal]

Dude that's sick

[crimson helm]

@limpid portal maybe worth adding this as a dependency to StarlancerMoons?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hardy/LCMaxSoundsFix/

[limpid portal]

I'd have to test it first, but it would definitely be nice to reenable all of the audio sources I got rid of lol

[crimson helm]

Ye

Wesley seems to have added it to all their moons

[limpid portal]

So I just tested this and I'm happy to say that I didn't have the issue of my footsteps suddenly starting to glitch out. I'm waiting for the next version of LLL before I do any more modding, and it miiiiight fix the issue itself, but if not I probably will add this as a dependency.

Also I hope some other nerd besides myself can get why 27-Triskelion is named what it is :')

[crimson helm]

?

[limpid portal]

lmao I didn't even think about that, but no it's not a reference to anything pop culture

I'll post it as a spoiler: ||Quoted from Wikipedia: "A triskelion or triskeles is an ancient motif consisting either of a triple spiral exhibiting rotational symmetry or of other patterns in triplicate that emanate from a common center." 3 main buildings connected to the landing platform. 3 to the 3rd power = 27||

[hybrid obsidian]

what the hell is the secret thing

[limpid portal]

You mean the surprise tool?

[hybrid obsidian]

yeah

[limpid portal]

It's a secret

||It's a shovel||

[hybrid obsidian]

im trying to find it but im getting my head bashed in by the birdies

[limpid portal]

If you really want, I'll spoil it for you, but now that you know what you're looking for you might be able to find it on your own

[hybrid obsidian]

ok ill find it thanks

[gilded quail]

So on an estimated scale of 1 to 10, how hard is it to solo these with a semi-decent haul?

[crimson helm]

Auralis would probably be really hard unless you're using fire exits

just for time reasons

you spend a decent amount of time ||hiding from giants|| every time you go between the facility and the ship

[gilded quail]

Yeah, I noped out basically the minute I landed bc I heard a ||giant|| in the distance

Depending on what else is there, I'll need to bring as much ammo as I can get ahold of

[limpid portal]

Do you have increased spawns?

[gilded quail]

Nothing that directly increases enemy spawns, no
Of course, that could just be because I forgot how fast time usually moves, and I forgot to replace the longer day mod after taking out the full version of LE

[limpid portal]

Ahh yeah, that might do it. It's not improbable for a giant to spawn super early, but I did recently tweak the outside spawns to be slightly more forgiving. Any amount of increased spawns will turn Auralis into hell tho

[gilded quail]

I will say it's super pretty, though

[limpid portal]

The loot is very good on Auralis, so even a solo could profit pretty well, you just have to be mindful of your surroundings and be ready to drop your weight for a few

[limpid portal]

Thank you 💙

[gilded quail]

Considering ||an eyeless dog and a giant spawned at 10AM||, I'd say that's a given xD
I have a jetpack, so I think a combination of that and one-handed items will do the trick

[limpid portal]

That's just how I want the spawn 😌

[gilded quail]

I also paid Triskelion a visit
Are the other platforms meant to be reachable, say via jetpack?

[limpid portal]

Nah, they're just for decoration. You can go over there to just explore but there's nothing over there. Maybe later on though

[gilded quail]

Oke ^^

[opal mauve]

Someone said they were having difficulties getting custom interiors to spawn on Triskelion, is that confirmed / still being figured out?

[limpid portal]

I haven't confirmed it myself, but they provided screenshots showing that it wasn't grabbing it. I'm not sure if they ever fixed it, but I set up Triskelion exactly the same as Auralis so idk why it wouldn't work

[opal mauve]

Is it named internally as 27-Triskelion instead of just Triskelion? I had a weird issue with Kast where it wouldn't work unless I typed the exact name, could be similar

Like Kast had to be 13-Kast, and it was the only one

Did they ever show how it wasn't being grabbed, or did they just set it to guaranteed and it didn't load?

[limpid portal]

Did you ever solve this issue?

[pine shoal]

no I gave up for the time being

[limpid portal]

kk, the new LLL update should drop today and maybe that'll fix it

[pine shoal]

Never tried TrisklelionLevel but

err

TriskelionLevel

[limpid portal]

The way LLL truncates the name means it should be just like Auralis, so it'd just be "triskelion"

[opal mauve]

Interesting

[pine shoal]

Not a massive deal for me personally because Facility is probably the best interior for it except maybe office?

but I usually throw down random values just to make sure everything registers initially

[frozen dove]

I can confirm that we've been playing a lot of Triskelion and we've gotten custom interiors a bunch, plenty of LC_Office and SCPDungen

[opal mauve]

Could be a Scoopy's issue based on their logs then

[limpid portal]

Still odd that Auralis would work and not Triskelion

[limpid portal]

@pine shoal new update for LLL is out, so maybe it'll fix the interiors issue for you if its related somehow

[opal mauve]

Or everything breaks

Both are equally likely

😛

[limpid portal]

True! But that's modding for ya 🤭

[opal mauve]

Indeed

I saw the LLL update drop and everyone immediately start having issues and I'm like "this is a good time to go work on my Cosmetic pack"

[limpid portal]

Ye big updates like this are bound to have complications, but Batby's on it
At least LC isn't a story/progression game where a busted mod kills a 95 hour savefile

[opal mauve]

Oh yeah 100%

[gritty harbor]

Been loving Triskelion so far

[onyx dirge]

You just re-traumatized Masa again

The 115 hour modded Skyrim run

[limpid portal]

Been there fam 😔

[sharp sequoia]

Do you think there is a way to reverse engineer your moons to be able to create my own, since LLL doesn’t have proper documentation yet?

[limpid portal]

I don't think so, not without sharing my private project. Documentation should be coming soon, hopefully

[sharp sequoia]

That makes sense! And yeah let’s hope it comes soon ::) thank you

[limpid portal]

You're welcome, and I hope so as well ^^

[sharp sequoia]

Also if you don’t mind, were your moons inspired by any existing medias? They’re beautifully crafted and original and it made me curious

[limpid portal]

Auralis was just because I love snowy cold sci-fi, but not really a specific media. Triskelion was inspired by my friend, who was in turn inspired by Metroid Prime 3 🤭

[sharp sequoia]

I wish I had played that game! I totally see it tho, really good stuff, thank you again!

[limpid portal]

You're welcome, thank you for the kind words ^^

[onyx dirge]

RAAAA METROID

<3

[limpid portal]

Yea he mentioned a gas giant with floating spires or some-such, then we got to thinking about oil rigs, and ta-daaa

[onyx dirge]

Ohh Elysia

Nice. ^^

[sharp sequoia]

How long did it take to make?

[onyx dirge]

Masa used to play a LOT of Metroid Prime 3. Very nostalgic. Too bad Metroid got forgotten after Other M. Not even Dread has been talked about a lot, or for long atleast.

[sharp sequoia]

I feel like sometimes people make moons in a day and sometimes it takes them a few weeks

Oh woww 🔥

[onyx dirge]

Metroid goes hard ✨

[limpid portal]

I think once I started working on Triskelion the rough design was finalized in 2-3 days

[sharp sequoia]

Interesting, did you have a lot of experience with Unity beforeband?

Sorry for the whole interview, I’m just very curious hahaha

[limpid portal]

No worries!
Not really, I've made a small horror game years ago using Unity. It wasn't great, but it was good experience and my hard drive got corrupted so I don't have the files anymore if I ever wanted to update it

Right before LC came out, I was working on another short horror game and had decided to switch to Unreal bc of the whole Unity debacle, but I wanted to mod LC so I begrudgingly started learning Unity again 🤭

[sharp sequoia]

Yeah I feel like Unreal is infinitely better, but I too, really want to mod this game hahaha. Did you learn it from videos/books or just by messing around in it?

I’ve only used Unity for a class I took like 8 years ago lol, so I’m kind of scared to go back into that

[limpid portal]

I don't have any professional/educational experience in game dev, I actually have a useless B.A. in physics lol
It's a combo of google, stumbling around until things work, and occasionally asking people who know more than me

I also make music, and have released a few songs for the boombox that don't require anything besides bepinex. The thunderstore has a link to my spotify as well :)
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AudioKnight/StarlancerMusic/

It hasn't gotten as much attention as the moons ofc, but at least no one's come in and been like "Your music SUCKS"

[lone roost]

i'd love to add it to my modpack, but i'm a bit stingy on how many mods i want and i hardly use the boombox

[limpid portal]

No worries, just go listen to it on Spotify 👀

[onyx dirge]

Your music--

Is actually pretty nice. ✨

[limpid portal]

💙

[limpid portal]

Is that supposed to have sound? 🤭

[pine shoal]

it does

just quiet

[limpid portal]

ohhh okay

Love seeing Papyrus bust a move to my music

Made even funnier by the song being "I Hate My Job"

[silk tusk]

Megalovania plays from the entity when papyrus is dead somewhere on the moon. He can only attack you if you look at his eye. ;p

[limpid portal]

That's amazing lmao

[tender ember]

i think something broke for me after the latest LLL update

map just doesnt load

[silk tusk]

By default - Papyrus is playful and tries to "capture" you. They're a spin-off the bracken, where they won't kill you - but take you still like a bracken to their favorite room. Their favorite room is always a room with a door that can be locked. Every time papyrus takes you (or anyone) into the room, the door locks and a key spawns in the room abiding by loot-spawn rules. You can use the key to unlock the door and escape - but papyrus sees a player who has escaped outside of the room, they don't try to capture but instead use their special attack (which is a slow thrown blue bone that will damage you if you move as it passes through you in any way, shape, or form). Papyrus has bracken-level health, and will always throw a blue bone at you at intervals akin to a nutcracker's shotgun. If you move while the blue bone is in you - you take 25 damage. ok i'll stop-

[silk tusk]

Yeh, LLL Updating broke basically all custom moons. Just give le moon devs time o -o

[tender ember]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-funny-dog-dog-meme-gif-25552129

ah oki

gonna rollback to 1.0.7 then ty

[silk tusk]

note that may break moons now too

ensure to rollback any moon that updated to be fixed/functional for the newest LLL

if you want to rollback.

(A headache, I know)

[tender ember]

im just gonna wish very hard that it will just work

[silk tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/it-just-works-tod-todd-howard-тоддговард-fallout-skyrim-gif-14803660

[limpid portal]

Yea idk if Starlancer works if it's by itself or not, but I think it does. Might just be LE breaking compatibility?

[old escarp]

Looks like Starlancer is bugged now, doesn't let the ship to land and we stuck in "waiting for crew"

[limpid portal]

Do you have Lethal Expansion or the Core version installed?

[old escarp]

Yup, and it's the only moon that doesn't work, I tried to disable every moon I have (both LE and LLL) and Starlancer is the only one that gives me issues

[limpid portal]

Hm. I'm guessing that the other moons have updated today then?

Bc if so I just need to rebuild Starlancer with the new LLL version

[old escarp]

These moons are the only ones that are still on LE, I have both loaders, but even if I disable LE Starlancer is still an issue

[limpid portal]

Have the LLL moons you have installed updated today?

[old escarp]

Yup, right now I have these

[limpid portal]

Kk, I'll rebuild in a bit, I thought since my new test builds worked on 1.0.7 the old ones would work on 1.1 😓

[old escarp]

Yup, I double checked and is Starlancer

Hope is fixed soon, such a great moon

[limpid portal]

Just tested and yeah, it just needed to be rebuilt. Gonna remove some test stuff rq then build it again and upload

[raven mica]

What moon is that ?

[tender ember]

bro

[old escarp]

I think is Kast

[limpid portal]

It's Triskelion, from this mod lol

[old escarp]

Oh sorry, is similar, but yes lmao

[limpid portal]

• StarlancerMoons 0.5.4
  • Updated to LLL 1.1.4
    • This update will automatically generate a section within the LLL config file to customize the following:
      • Planet Route Price
      • Day Speed Multiplier
      • Whether or not the planet has time at all
      • Hiding and registering the level in the terminal
      • Min/Max Scrap Item Spawns and Value
      • Scrap Spawning List
      • Max Inside, OutsideNight and OutsideDay Enemy Power Count
      • Inside, OutsideNight and OutsideDay Enemy Spawning List

I'll post when it goes live on r2modman, but in the meantime the update can be manually downloaded here:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AudioKnight/StarlancerMoons/

Ignore that the embed still says 0.5.3

Also this was just a very quick rebuild, so if something else in Starlancer breaks, lemme know.

[old escarp]

It is hard to create moons and then fix issues? I feel you need to have coding knowledge lol

[limpid portal]

Thus far everything I've done moon-wise is in Unity with Evaisa's stubbed scripts and Batby's LLL scripts, which just require me to fill in fields. One weird thing to do is manipulating the animation curves that control spawns, but there's no coding there

The only coding I've personally done is with my music mod to make it independent of any boombox mods, meaning you can load it with just BepInEx, no other mods required

[old escarp]

I need to check a tutorial

I just wish Brutal Company Plus just update their mod and I'm gonna be happy

[limpid portal]

I forgot to update the dependency to point at the latest version of LLL. Since my tests showed it working in 1.0.7 anyways, I'll fix it in the next update. People should keep their stuff updated anyways.

0.5.4 is now available through r2modman! \[T]/

[sharp sequoia]

Triskelion is stuck in loading hell for me for some reason

[limpid portal]

What exactly do you mean?

[sharp sequoia]

It's stuck on random seed forever and eventually crashes

I'll try auralis

it may be caused by some config changes I've made?

[limpid portal]

Stuck on Triskelion as well, let me take a look

I know Auralis worked earlier though

Is it working for you?

[sharp sequoia]

Lemme try

Yup Auralis works

[limpid portal]

🫠

Idk why Triskelion has been so problematic lmao

[sharp sequoia]

No idea! I'm glad to know it's not a me problem

[limpid portal]

I want it to be a nobody problem TT_TT

[crimson helm]

LLL has a known issue where if you leave a save with a custom moon active and then reopen it, this will happen the next time you try to land

I'm not sure if its only with LE Moons but the issue sounds identical

I'd really recommend people just use 1.0.7 of LLL til it can get more fixes

[old escarp]

Well, Starlancer still doesn't work for me

[limpid portal]

Yeah this is the hang-up

[frozen dove]

Hey again Audio Knight! Just a few quick findings from tonight's session

• Baboon Hawks will tend to go to the destroyed bridge to the top fire exit and try to path to the other side but can't, they just get stuck and clump up

• Dropping items outside of the bottom fire exit they can actually drop between the grates and into the drink, not sure if that can happen everywhere or not

[limpid portal]

Heard chef. I think I know how to fix those, but it won't be tonight.

[frozen dove]

That's no problem, aren't major issues! Keep up the great work 🫡

[wicked lodge]

Triskelion not loading anymore ;-;

[limpid portal]

Workin' on it

[wicked lodge]

Thanks chief 🫡

[limpid portal]

So I reverted back to LLL 1.0.7 to check, and my latest build of StarlancerMoons works fine on it. Auralis works (as it still does apparently) and Triskelion works. I have no clue what broke, but all I know to say is revert back to 1.0.7 if you wanna play on Triskelion TT_TT

[limpid portal]

My nightmares... they were prophecy

[opal mauve]

well whenever Triskelion is working again, I honestly wasn't that impressed only cuz the platforms still kinda feel like they're floating atm

I know they have supports, I can see them, but they don't feel weighted into anything

The supports feel arbitrary and some of the platforms don't feel wholy connected

Triskelion is cool and unique for sure but I don't mind it being broken rn, wasn't crazy over it haha ^^;

That said, weirdly enough, "simulate" works for Triskelion

Tried it earlier

[limpid portal]

No worries! I appreciate the feedback and you having given it a try regardless ^^

[opal mauve]

So it's something specifically on an actual land that breaks

[limpid portal]

I think it's some LethalLib function getting stuck on something, but again it's the case of "WHY ONLY ON TRISKELIONNNN"

[opal mauve]

Time to remake Triskelion

this is a joke

[drowsy mulch]

Couple weird things with lethallib I believe since LLL updated

LethalThings rugs breaking for some people is an odd one

[opal mauve]

There's a reason I haven't made a custom scrap mod yet, LethalLib breaks so fuckin often I'm scared to touch it

Cuz otherwise I really wanna make a scrap mod

Q_Q

And I don't wanna make a scrap mod with LethalExpansion cuz, well, it's still trying to find a successor and I have no idea if it will even be maintained in a couple of weeks

[drowsy mulch]

Easy just

• Make the mod
• Wait for LL to break
• Depreciate mod forever

[opal mauve]

See, I'd love to do that, but then I'd stop wanting to touch Lethal Company cuz anxiety of people asking me why it no work

and Lethal Company kinda my passion rn

[drowsy mulch]

Yeah I get that. There are mods I don't plan to manage in the future but I can't image what I'd do if they broke

Lethal has this scary thing where the game is actually being actively developed for better or for worse, which makes it even scarier here

[limpid portal]

mood

[opal mauve]

I have panic anxiety and am currently out of meds for them cuz I moved recently and haven't found a new psychiatrist

Sooo

Shit, I had people telling me my cosmetics had collision the other day and I was like

[limpid portal]

Damn, best of luck getting that sorted out

[opal mauve]

"The fuck you mean my cosmetics have collision"

"They'd need a Collision Mesh or whatever it's called for that"

"That's literally not possible"

Anxiety'd myself into oblivion

[drowsy mulch]

The benefits of modding a dead (development-wise) game and heavily relying on various modding utilities, exhibit A ^

Not dealing with that

[limpid portal]

lmao that's how I feel when I get reports about stuff like performance when certain interior mods are paired with my moons.
"Does it run fine without the interior mod?"
"Well, yea-"
"THEN IT'S THE INTERIOR MOD"

[limpid portal]

Skyrim

[drowsy mulch]

I won't specify to avoid even remotely invoking the advertising rule, but lethal modding is rough. I'll get into moons though I think since things like LLL look like it'll have strong long-time support

But gotta finish up other backlog stuff first

[opal mauve]

Oh also

I have yet to notice any StarlancerMusic

yes, I have it installed lol

[limpid portal]

It's boombox music

So you should just randomly get it on the vanilla boombox

[opal mauve]

Oh

And here I thought it was ambience

Well in that case I should probably uninstall it rn cuz I have Boombox Controller so it won't even play those I don't think lmao

[limpid portal]

If it taps into the vanilla list of songs it should o:

[opal mauve]

Nah, pretty sure it overwrites entirely

[limpid portal]

rip

[opal mauve]

BoomboxController is the one that lets you play YouTube/other stuff

[limpid portal]

Hm. I'll see if I can do like I did with DiscJockey and add compatibility for it without creating a dependency

In the meantime, you can enjoy them on Spoofy as well
https://open.spotify.com/album/37g2StTKEjWcdl8JWnNOzT?si=7ca23f523dda4144

[opal mauve]

Would be nice since BoomboxController by default plays nothing

[limpid portal]

I recommend checking out DJ btw. Idk exactly how it compares to BC, but it allows vanilla songs to play
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Yoshify/DiscJockey/

[opal mauve]

DiscJockey looks really good, but lacks a way to pull songs from YouTube/Soundcloud automatically from the page alone at least. You have to add them manually

Which defeats the purpose of when I randomly want a certain meme song on the Boombox

With BC, it's /bplay YouTubeURL.com and boom, you get a song

[limpid portal]

I think you'd just click the + button and paste your url

[opal mauve]

Oh wait nvm I see that

Huh

Maybe I'll give it a shot then

[limpid portal]

I honestly haven't used it bc my friends like to keep the modpack lean, but I was recommended it and decided to implement compatibility for it natively

The dev was cool and helpful too

[opal mauve]

As someone with 108 mods atm, I'd love a better alternative for Boombox Controller

Cuz it seems buggy in my experience

Will definitely give it a shot

[limpid portal]

Lemme know how it works for you, and I hope you like my songs :)

[opal mauve]

adds it to my expanding list of mods that I need to add

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-ikea-heart-heartlocket-gif-22280660

Also just so you don't get burned with a misspell, it's Disc not Disk

[opal mauve]

What can I say, trans girl's gotta blahaj

Tyyy

[limpid portal]

All my homies love blahaj

[opal mauve]

I still gotta treak MinecraftScraps

Halved them (or more) on most maps and still see too many

[limpid portal]

I'm personally not a big fan of scrap mods that inject their stuff globally (which hits custom moons), but idk the process of setting that up dev-side so it might not even be intentional

Like seeing a minecraft villager in Auralis would be... jarring

[opal mauve]

Thing is

MinecraftScraps don't

They only inject into vanilla

I had to manually go through every moon to add a chance since I don't like never seeing them

But even at half the default chance they're everywhere

So clearly I need to keep tweaking

[limpid portal]

Oh neat, that's very compatiblity-minded of the dev

Good luck with your tweaking lol

[opal mauve]

Yeah I use AdvancedCompany to tweak all my scrap spawns to feel nicer

I want modded scraps to show up in my modded maps or else there's no point in having all sorts of modded scraps

Which is why I've been waiting to add all those modded scrap mods in my list

[limpid portal]

Yea that makes sense. I can see both sides where, like you said, there's no point in modded scraps if you never see them, but also wanting to maintain the theme of a custom moon. That's the beauty of modding tho, the user picks the experience in the end 🤭

[opal mauve]

Mhm!

I just keep the modded scraps relatively low, but eventually that stops working once you have too many

I probably need to go through and increase modded moon scrap values, but figuring out which ones are associated with which moons is not gonna be fun

[limpid portal]

You mean like scrap that comes uniquely with custom moons?

[hybrid obsidian]

auralis is

super easy with a jetpack

pulled out about 3k

i saw that triskellion REALLY loves the chemical tank heavy scrap though

triskellion is cool but you have to sacrifice 1 person to fight the birds

imagine a metro moon / underground railways

probably some worms in there and alot of bugs

[frozen dove]

I feel the baboon hawks are a good threat, sometimes their nests can be in a bad spot and there's too many but it's gave me a lot of understanding with them, funny little fellas

But you can sneak about em, just gotta be mindful of being surrounded and being too heavy

[opal mauve]

Or beat them to death and sell their corpses

[proud hornet]

the baboon hawks constantly camp the stairs :(

[opal mauve]

Kill them

Can't camp the stairs if they're dead

[proud hornet]

too bad it's usually 3 hawks

no shotgun to boot sadg

[opal mauve]

I can kill most hawks with a shovel since they won't defend each other typically

They just watch as you kill their friends

Just gotta be careful and watch your sprint

[limpid portal]

To clarify, are you referring to them getting stuck on the stairs?

[proud hornet]

yep

like for some reason, they just gatekeep me from accessing it

[limpid portal]

Gotta store all the gas they're mining ☣️

[proud hornet]

they don't really move much when on the stairs

[limpid portal]

Yea that's an issue I've been thinking about, I might have an idea on how to solve it though

If I can... Y'know... Get Triskelion working on LLL 1.1 ;~;

[sharp sequoia]

😔

My friends didn’t even get to try it lol

I’m just so confused as to why Auralis works

[limpid portal]

It haunted my sleep

Not Auralis, but the same confusion

[frozen dove]

Oh yeah can I know what weight bracken has to spawn in Triskelion? I swear every time we are there he just exists, every single day without fail, how many times I gotta blow this guy up for unfairly camping fire exits? 😡😡😡

[limpid portal]

I'll check in a bit, but I definitely remember putting it on the lower end. Do you have any mods affecting spawns?

[frozen dove]

The only mod I had that affects spawns was Masked Enemy Overhaul, but that just adds a weight for masked spawns so it dilutes the pool a little, maybe we are just really unlucky

[limpid portal]

I'll take a look in a bit, maybe I'm misremembering. My theming was to let it be sort of like a "boss spawn"

[hybrid obsidian]

still feels like there are too many baboon hawk spawn

[limpid portal]

The outside power cap is only 6 I think

[lone roost]

why are baboon hawks even on a gas giant mining platform

[limpid portal]

Smh my head no one ever reads the descriptions

They stowed away on company resupply vessels

Once a few of them got settled in, they got to work increasing the population and BAM infestation

[frozen dove]

They're funny little fellas

[limpid portal]

They're assholes and they'll sell you to Satan for one corn chip

I love them

[frozen dove]

They bullied me and took my lunch money (a thumper body) 😔

[limpid portal]

I wonder how effective a diy flash bang would be at scaring them away

But anyways

[lone roost]

oh that makes sense

[limpid portal]

Once I actually figure out the 1.1 issue I'll see about tweaking navmesh and stuff

[lone roost]

bit annoying to read something when it autoscrolls on a screen

[limpid portal]

Fair 🤭

[frozen dove]

I've found the most effective method is staring them down and breaking LoS, this makes them Threatened to back up and then they'll explore instead of bugging you, some debris like more barrels and stuff to hide behind could make for a good way to get around them breaking LoS

[limpid portal]

Consider it considered! Amount of clutter is a fine line to walk with props lol

[frozen dove]

My only problem is that ShyGuy likes to spawn on Triskelion a lot so maintaining eye contact can be difficult with them 😂

[limpid portal]

Assuming ShyGuy is a mod, you've brought that on yourself 🤭

[lone roost]

what do you MEAN assuming. of course shyguy is a mod

[frozen dove]

Yep, the added funny man into the mix is great, I can't wait til someone adds Larry

I will be dragged to a torture hell pocket dimension

[lone roost]

basically walker from diversity

[limpid portal]

Sometimes the community comes up with silly names for things!

[lone roost]

what would you even name shyguy out of the default enemies

[limpid portal]

Bracken maybe?

Masked enemies cuz they wear masks

[frozen dove]

I know this is a bit out the blue but the main inspiration for this design was Metroid from your friend right? I mentioned a bit before about Rain World but man, it's uncanny how coincidentally similar it is, with the gas below I've always thought it sort of looks like water instead of gas, maybe subtle lighting effects and sounds like it's a storm of sorts below? I've attached ambience of an Iterator Can for some sort of idea with how this is handled in RW with the green flashing and stuff, also so you can get a visual idea if what I mean by the buildings

https://youtu.be/2hughyv68_c?si=1qBbQRa--GCLRjEU

[raven mica]

Wait is starlancer not one moon ?

[sharp sequoia]

It’s two moons now ;))

Auralis and Triskelion

[limpid portal]

Triskelion is bronk right now tho

Workin' on it

[sharp sequoia]

Triskelion doesn’t currently work with LLL 1.1.0 and +

Yeah

[limpid portal]

That's really neat! The water-iness of the gas is really just a limitation lol, idk yet how to make a billowy gas (which would also probably hamstring performance), so I decided to theme is like the gas is so high-pressure it's coalesced back into liquid

[frozen dove]

I really have no idea what can be done but what I can think of is the fog, volumetric fog on a lower Y level with a Green hue set to it could work? God this makes me want to get into development but I have 0 coding experience 😭

[limpid portal]

I had a similar thought, but at the same time the liquid feels visually interesting. I might experiment more later though :)

Also, end me
I feel like Dormammu when Strange just makes him repeat the same 10 seconds over and over

[limpid portal]

Alright, I've got it loading again

Will upload shortly

Actually, I'm also gonna go ahead and make the staircases wider rq to help with the dumb hawks getting stuck

[crimson helm]

So true actually

I love rain world so so much

[frozen dove]

I won't flood the thread but that game is my all time favourite, I don't think anything will ever top the self discovery I had during it

[limpid portal]

Also big news

I think I've got it so that Masked can get in the ship :3c

[crimson helm]

Oh nice

[limpid portal]

You can all live in fear now

Welp, new issue. No entities are spawning on Triskelion. Gonna be a bit more before the next update

[limpid portal]

The log just spits out that all the spawn chances are 0 on Triskelion. Things are fine on Auralis tho :/

[limpid portal]

Status update, I guess? My newest test build of Triskelion runs fine on 1.0.7, but I'm still at a loss for what's breaking specifically Triskelion in 1.1.x

Alright, well since I made some other fixes for Auralis, I'm going to push a new update with Triskelion locked away. It'll still be playable if you'd prefer to stick with the previous versions of Starlancer and LLL, but I'd rather not get reports of it not working for the time being.

[old escarp]

Well, for me Starlancer is not working, but I just gonna disable it until is fixed, so take your time

[limpid portal]

Including Auralis?

[old escarp]

Well, when I have the mod installed I can't just simply land on any moon

[limpid portal]

That's bizarre. Can I see your modlist?

I'm pushing an update now which might fix your problem @old escarp , but I can't think of why Starlancer by itself would completely break every other moon

[old escarp]

Let me see

I have both LE (plus Core) and LLL, different moons, different dungeosn, but for now when I activate Starlancer (3 mods) I stuck in the waiting for crew screen

I can move and interact, but the match don't load

[limpid portal]

And you experience this on every moon?

[old escarp]

Yup, I can't land on anything

But to be sure, let me activate it again and create a new file

[limpid portal]

Please do!

• StarlancerMoons 0.5.5
  • Added LCMaxSoundsFix by Hardy as a soft dependency. It's not actually required to run Starlancer, but it resolves the issue with audio cutting out when too many audio sources are present, both on modded moons and I presume in vanilla, so in order to get the best experience I'll tie it in as an optional.
  • Added navmesh on Auralis and Triskelion to allow the Masked Employees and Outside Entities to climb into the ship. Live in fear, for the company's ship may be your tomb.
  • Locked away Triskelion for the time being. It will no longer show up in the terminal, attempting to route to it from the Moons list will inform you that it is unavailable, and routing to it from elsewhere is prohibitively expensive (999999c). If you really want to go explore it for fun, by all means mod your credits up, but I will be disregarding Triskelion bug reports for now.
    • It no longer gets stuck on "Random Seed: #" but the spawns are completely broken.
    • Widened the staircases and rebaked the navmesh on Triskelion to help with the Baboon Hawks getting stuck.
    • Removed one possible outside spawn point to declutter.
  • If you so desire, you may revert to LLL 1.0.7 and StarlancerMoons 0.5.3 to reactivate Triskelion in a stable setup.

r2modman will grab the update soon, manually update here if desired: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AudioKnight/StarlancerMoons/

Again, ignore the embed having the wrong version number

[old escarp]

Yup, I checked and it doesn't work everytime I try to land

[limpid portal]

Ugggggggghhhhhhhhhhh

[old escarp]

But is only me? Because I think other people works fine

I have advanced company and brutal company plus, idk if those mods affects it

[limpid portal]

It's possible, I just put my new files into my normal modded profile and it worked fine. Update to 0.5.5 when it becomes available to you and let me know if the issue persists

Wait

Try disabling StarlancerMusic

It's the only coding I've personally done, so it's worth checking

If you have a boombox mod it could be causing some sort of incompatibility

[old escarp]

If I do it a get a message saying that I need to disable the rest

Hmm, I have boombox, I'm gonna try to disable that first

These are my mods if you want to check: 018d8f85-365f-cdbd-8400-625267125127

[limpid portal]

You can ignore that and just hit this

[limpid portal]

I'll let you check first, then check after the update

I'm very drained by this so I don't wanna go through more steps until I have to lol

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tired-gif-22639183

[old escarp]

Well, is not boombox

I'm gonna install the update and check

Nope, neither worked

Don't stress yourself, maybe is just one of my other mods, so I hope everything fixed by itself xD

[limpid portal]

Here's hoping! Bc I am truly drowning in the abyss rn

[limpid portal]

I took a peek and didn't see anything that I'd think would break on contact with Starlancer. If you're bored at some point you could try disabling other big mods until Starlancer works and then report the incompatibility 🤭

[old escarp]

I did that with LLL and LE, Starlancer still didn’t work

But later I’m gonna try with other mods

[limpid portal]

Well Starlancer can't function without LLL at all lol. LE was my suspicion, but you said you had LE Core

[old escarp]

I’m thinking of Brutal Company plus because that’s bugged right now, so maybe that can an issue

[old escarp]

Yeah, because I try that to check the issue so I thought it was one of the moons, until I disable every moon until Starlancer

[limpid portal]

Well lemme know if you stumble upon the incompatibility ^^
For now I need a break, unless Batby throws me a magic wand 🤭

[old escarp]

Haha ok, take a rest, I’ll do the test later, I’m starving

[frozen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-menacingly-spongebob-standing-there-gif-19452999

[old escarp]

Latest news, Brutal Company Plus is the issue, weird because only happens with this moon

[limpid portal]

That's incredibly strange

I forget, do you have other LLL moons?

[limpid portal]

Hm. I have no further insight atm then 🫠

[old escarp]

Guess is not you, maybe BCP, which it has not been updated since december, I think

But idk why only happen with this mod

Well, guess I have to disable the mod, too bad, I like the feature to give you money each time you survive

[limpid portal]

Idk if it has the same features you're looking for, but you could try BC Reborn instead, by the original BC author. Updated 4 days after BCP's last update 🤭
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/2018/Brutal_Company_Reborn/

No clue if it'd face a similar issue tho

[old escarp]

Interesting, I'm gonna check it and let you if give me any issue with your mod

[limpid portal]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[limpid portal]

• 0.5.6
  • Reactivated Triskelion, fixing the "Random Seed: #" soft-lock and broken spawns.
    • Here's my understanding as to why it broke, which may be incorrect, but the result is the same anyway:
      • I use blank references to vanilla files to make my files smaller. LLL searches for references in the mod's asset bundle and once they're loaded, they are destroyed. Auralis was first (because of the alphabet, I guess?) which is why it never broke, so when LLL went to load Triskelion's data, it had already nulled out the references.
      • The reason the "Random Seed: #" lock-up happened is because the spawning of map objects (like turrets and landmines) takes place alongside dungeon generation. When the references were "null" this caused the generation to stall.
      • The reason the spawns had broken was the same, it just didn't lock-up the game because spawns happen after dungeon generation, and null references there are treated as 0s instead from what I can tell.
      • My fix was to duplicate my blank references into a different folder, thereby creating seperate assets for LLL to load (and subsequently delete), thus resulting in things working again!
        • my agony today was endless, the darkness infinite, please send supplies I'm behind enemy lines the baboon hawks are closing in on m----------
  • Attempted to fix the issue on Triskelion where falling off of the exterior platforms into the green depths below would result in the player's body ending up in the dungeon somehow.

I'll post when it's live on r2modman :)

[limpid portal]

It's live \[T]/
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AudioKnight/StarlancerMoons/

I really hope this actually fixes things for everyone ; w ;

[wicked lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/lootbug-lethal-company-lethal-company-loot-gif-8383565573298735433

[old escarp]

Even my issue? 👀

[limpid portal]

I hope so!! Please let me know!

[old escarp]

Looks like any Brutal Company mods hates you

[uneven plover]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1Uk2sYz8pg8IgW/d1337QxBnQCG?invite=cr-MSw5MHQsMzY5NDgzMjYs

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[wicked lodge]

Good to be back

[limpid portal]

I love the maid uniforms lmao

[proud hornet]

damn what mod allows you to have that centered

[wicked lodge]

I just cropped a print haha

[proud hornet]

ohh

[uneven plover]

😳

[gilded quail]

Your hard work will not go unrewarded
Have an ample supply of pickles to keep the baboon hawks distracted

[limpid portal]

I'm so happy it's working again. That was so stressful lmao

[silk tusk]

protogen 'n boykisser.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/90624513405878272/1100588151652749433/1096483269832360016.gif

[uneven plover]

:3

[silk tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-kisser-boykisser-boy-kisser-type-type-typing-gif-4348094406361571449

[uneven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-boys-kisser-mega-kot-brick-gif-11900063593491011307

[silk tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1091044412831825952/1118764053335117865/1632856392703811584.gif

I literally have the same one - but it's not the same gif

i think yours is smoother? .,.

[limpid portal]

Bongo's is noisier

[silk tusk]

but has more fps

[limpid portal]

ye

[silk tusk]

I'm the quality boykisser brick tosser

They're the smoothest one

[limpid portal]

Quality vs. Performance

[silk tusk]

Mhmm. Outputting the same thing

[uneven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/chipichipi-boykisser-boykisser-chipichipi-chipichipichapachapa-gif-10758258345566257

[silk tusk]

many bricks.

[silk tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/751520514446458920/1204154631350124624/1.mp4?ex=65d3b364&is=65c13e64&hm=ab69fb7acbd8f4a02ad28ee2e06a5525574eb1ad630bc391ab106038d63f9c29&

[limpid portal]

MGRR best soundtrack

[silk tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-26077231

Why don't you back it up with a source?

[limpid portal]

MY SOURCE IS THAT I MADE IT THE FUCK UP

"How did you get elected?!"
"I don't write my own speeches"

[silk tusk]

no but seriously I've shot to the beat of a MGRR song like 50+ times

in BPM

👌 Gud soundtrack

I also have the wheelchair song

[limpid portal]

[limpid portal]

cursed

[silk tusk]

@limpid portal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47JKejm3P3A

🤣

sung by the official boi who did the original song

[silk tusk]

It's always a 10/10 when the original song artist helps to sing someone's parody :3

[limpid portal]

Yea fr, at first I was like "damn they chopped up his vocals really well"

[silk tusk]

Oh no no no - he literally sang it

[limpid portal]

Yee, it made much more sense knowing that lol

[silk tusk]

XD - that'd be god damn impressive if this was chopped up like a TF2 song

but Tyson is epic c:

https://youtube.com/shorts/ENmdjnHF41c

Look how long he hits that damn note 😄

[limpid portal]

Sick 🤘

[gilded quail]

Ambushed a thumper when it came between me and the fire exit I stashed loot outside of

[barren flume]

is it possiblet o use this with LCMAXSOUNDSFIX, it causes severe lag for me on custom interiors on modded moons

[limpid portal]

The sound fix is causing it? It's only a soft dependency, so you can disable it if it's causing issues

[barren flume]

yep took me so long to figure it out

[limpid portal]

Very strange that it would be causing performance issues, but yea Starlancer works just fine without it

You'll just probably get audio issues later in the day as more sound sources get turned on from enemies spawning

[barren flume]

it says this

occlude audio errors

[limpid portal]

I'm so used to hearing bug reports lately so I just wanna make sure, this is a good thing?

[limpid portal]

Hm, I haven't seen that error before

[barren flume]

thats waht the creator of scarlet devil mansion told me

[limpid portal]

Not sure how to help with that unfortunately. Does the soundfix lag occur only when SDM is the interior?

[barren flume]

the lag occurs for me, for every modded interior on a modded moon

wait nvm that didnt fix it

lcsoundfixtools thing was not the issue

Im only having lag issues with weslleys moons

[limpid portal]

Oh, well I'm glad it's not the soundfix at least lol
Wesley's moons are still LE right? That could be the issue since the LLL update has been fighting with it a bit. I think I've mentioned it before, but do you have LE Core?

[barren flume]

yep

lll version is 1.0.7

[limpid portal]

I've gotten Starlancer working on the latest LLL version, so you could try that just to test it, otherwise I think all I can really do is wish you luck 😓

[gilded quail]

bgdsfjhgvjshd I was just giving an update about the genuinely fun part of playing on that map
Unless thumpers aren't supposed to spawn on Triskelion, I'd say it's a good thing

[limpid portal]

I'm glad! It's just been a stressful period for Starlancer development 🤭

[gilded quail]

Is it bad that I've learned to cheese both moons with a jetpack?

[limpid portal]

I feel like any moon can be cheesable with a jetpack 🤭

[gilded quail]

Touché

[limpid portal]

Really you're just robbing yourself tho 👀

[gilded quail]

Oh don't get me wrong
I've borne witness to the fields of majestic, snow-covered pines and the giants roaming betwixt them, sometimes accompanied by a lone dog or small pack

It's what motivated me, a usually solo player, to resort to the jetpack xD

[limpid portal]

Fair! Just don't forget to recharge it :3c

[gilded quail]

Absolutely. I've even learned to master the art of forcing it to reverse charge in order to conserve power on round trips to the ice-floe emergency exit (dunno if there are others)

The only downside is that I can't do that and carry two-handed things at the same time, but somehow I think I'll survive

Is the ghost girl able to spawn on either moon?

[limpid portal]

You've been using the jetpack and haven't seen the hillside fire exit? 🤔

[limpid portal]

Yes, lemme check the weights rq

[gilded quail]

I tried to scout using altitude, but no red lights stood out to me
Maybe I just managed to look in all the wrong places, it's not beyond my luck xD

[limpid portal]

Triskelion is 1 (didn't want to make a unkillable threat common on a combat-themed moon)
Auralis is actually only 2, which I think can be bumped up to 5 at least, especially now that I've got navmesh going into the ship working

[gilded quail]

Mercy XD
Augh, aight
I ask because she managed to ruin three Titan runs in a row, and there was an occasion where Offense switched to a mansion interior... Which spawned her and at least one coilhead

I may have some beef with her

[gilded quail]

Oh, thank you!

[limpid portal]

You're welcome! I'm surprised you never exited the interior there honestly.

C'mon 5 isn't too bad. I suppose I can bump it up slower and start with a 4 🤭

[gilded quail]

You might be even more surprised to find out that I'm something of a wuss when it comes to mansion interiors, or the medium/hard moons in general XD
I always take a fully loaded shotgun with me, but because I apparently hate feeling safe, I got a mod that broadens the range of insanity-induced noises and hallucinations
The end result is that I almost never go that far into the moons' interiors when I can help it, or more accurately when loot rng helps it

I mean, you do what you prefer with the map to make it interesting, it's your mod, but I will let you know about my suffering when it happens

[limpid portal]

lmao hey, you play how you want! That's the beauty of modding :)

My current plan for the next moon will be a free mansion though

[gilded quail]

"Free" mansion?

[limpid portal]

As in a moon that, by default, is weighted primarily towards the mansion tileset, and costs nothing to route to.

[gilded quail]

Ah, alright
Sweet ^w^

Any idea what the primary enemies are gonna be?

[limpid portal]

Nope! :D

[frozen dove]

We played a good bit last night on Auralis and I'm still confused by it, is it supposed to be absolutely packed with ridiculous spawns off the bat? As in a "take a peek, grab what you can and get back if you can" type moon?

The moon loot ping tells me there's consistently 43 items with a value of 3.5k-4.5k 😅

[gilded quail]

I mentioned giants spawning at 10AM and according to the author, that's exactly what's supposed to happen
It's kinda gnarly like that xD

[limpid portal]

Are you using the "scan" command at the terminal?
Auralis is quite profitable, but your average value on the level should be around ~2.5k

But the vanilla scan command is wildly inaccurate most of the time. I've been using Detailed Scan to check stuff, it lists each scrap off ship and their value

Also what do you mean by ridiculous spawns exactly? It's definitely meant to be rough (especially the outside) but I recently tweaked things to be a bit less brutal

[glacial moat]

I read "Forest Keeper" as "Frost Keeper" and got really excited to see a frost related enemy for a moment

[onyx dirge]

Ice Giants 😔

😩

[limpid portal]

Aww sorry ^^; maybe someday!

[frozen dove]

Nah i'm not, the ShowLootOnPlanet mod is very reliable though, accurately displays all items outside the ship and with the true value total mod it was 100% correct, i've checked the moon stats via lethal quantities and see the min/max was set to 30/42, and with such high value scrap it ranges to that ridiculous range I mentioned

What confuses me is the min/max value set on items here, chem jugs can be 210?

[limpid portal]

Uhhh no, I'm not sure why that's happening. I don't touch item values.

That's in the LLL config for Auralis?

[frozen dove]

Nah this is from LethalQuantites, a mod that lets you tweak values from what it gets upon loading a game, which makes me wonder why that is happening. I'll do a quick test on my testing profile isolated from other mods and see

[limpid portal]

Please do! Scrap in general is tricky bc the min/max values don't seem to work like I think they should. So I pretty much just did trial and error until it gave me roughly what I wanted

[frozen dove]

Okay landed on the moon 5 times and got these results, which are way more like what i'm expecting to see

I have an idea for what I might think has happened

I think the first time we landed on the moon it was either foggy or eclipsed, and meteo multiplier (weather bonuses) overwrote loot information on the moon

I'll get quantities up on this profile and crossref information

[limpid portal]

Ahh okay. Always glad when it's not my problem 🤭

[frozen dove]

Huh unless I just got very lucky on those 5 runs it looks like that didn't touch those values. unless I am misreading exactly how the scrap is calculated here

Ohhhhhh

I see now

ScrapValueMultiplier will * the scrap's value and that'll be what's displayed in game

So I saw a 90 value cash register here and that falls within the min/max of cash registers

Okay nevermind, all just meteomultiplier and foggy/eclipsed boosting numbers to crazy values, more knowledge unlocked

Sorry to be a pain 😅

[limpid portal]

Ahh yep, that'll do it. Glad to see that MM didn't ruin LQ at least

[limpid portal]

Not a pain at all! I appreciate your feedback and I'm just glad everything is working correctly :)

[frozen dove]

Yeah it all makes sense now, MM adjusts the ScrapValueMultiplier and ScrapAmountMultiplier for moons and with such a large loot quantity on this moon even the smallest adjustment makes astronomical changes to how much the total value is there

[limpid portal]

Absolutely lol. Idk how the config for MM works, but you should look into maybe lowering the multiplier for foggy weather if you can

[frozen dove]

Yep I thought it was low enough! 15% extra loot value and 10% extra loot adjustes that moon A LOT 😭

[limpid portal]

Can you set MM per moon?

[frozen dove]

Unfortunately not, which would be great honestly as the "post titan" moons get affected the most compared to the base game free moons

I'll see if I can contact the mod dev regarding that one 👀

But for the time being this will be fine... hopefully 😂

[limpid portal]

Well you'll be meeting quota, that's for sure 🤭

[frozen dove]

Bro we came out of Auralis with like 5k 😭

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/money-crypto-bitcoin-penguin-cash-gif-5426026210236782084

[gilded quail]

Auralis definitely seems the place to be
Titan is slightly more convenient in terms of ship-entrance traffic, but it's actually cursed for me so I'm not touching it anymore when I have this xD

[opal mauve]

Alternate skins for the Forest Keepers would be fun

[gilded quail]

Alternate skins for any monster that shows up in radically different biomes tbh
Barring that, some explanation as to why the exact same critters show up on different moons orbiting different planets

[limpid portal]

I just assume it's The Company's fault

[lunar trench]

Just in case you didn't know, there is compatibility issues with the moons and Intro Tweaks. Not sure which side it's on or why its happening though.

[limpid portal]

It's a known incompatibility with Lethal Level Loader. The way LLL loads bundles takes place during the intro, so skipping the intro makes the bundles never load in the first place.

[lunar trench]

I see, thanks

[opal mauve]

This is planned to be fixed in the future on LLL's end but Batby, the man with the plan, is unavailable until the 13th

[gilded quail]

My luck in a nutshell: Three gold bars spawn relatively close to each other, but then a coilhead shows up right in front of the fire exit

[limpid portal]

@opal mauve I have a surprise for you

[opal mauve]

oh?

[onyx dirge]

What have you done

That's EVIL

[limpid portal]

It's a simple patcher. I'm gonna test it on other enemies now, but Coilheads are a lovely proof of concept

[gilded quail]

Ghost Girl and Giant are plenty of immortal outdoor enemies

I can already feel my soul shriveling

[opal mauve]

oh no

but also oh yes

Will this work with other moons too? Or will the patch only apply to yours currently? @limpid portal

[limpid portal]

It'll work globally, it patches the EnemyAI type

[opal mauve]

That is dope

You have no idea how excited I am

I don't even care what horrors you put outside on Triskelion because of this

[limpid portal]

It doesn't allow enemies to escape the facility, but it'll be huge as an API for other mods

[opal mauve]

Absolutely

[gilded quail]

Fear

[limpid portal]

~~Please noone take this from me ; ^ ; ~~

[gilded quail]

I'd like to see 'em try

[opal mauve]

Between this and TestAccount's Backrooms patch they released today, my ideal Lethal Company is slowly coming into view

crimes within crimes await

[gilded quail]

So we have Brutal Company and we have Savage Company
What's the next tier

How bad can it get

[opal mauve]

Oh one more thing, will this still require navigation nodes outside, or does this properly use the outdoor nodes now? @limpid portal

Just an important question before I go throwing them on all the moons

[limpid portal]

I'm actually adding some code right now to set them to use outside nodes

[onyx dirge]

Wait.. Wait hold on.. Was that a showcase for proper exterior pathing for interior A.I???

[opal mauve]

It was

[onyx dirge]

HOLY

SDIOGRTFIUOFMDIGOHJMNTIOHM

This is omega hype ngl

[limpid portal]

Didn't expect CODE from a MOON MAN, DID YOU

[onyx dirge]

ISNT A MOON MADE OF CODES?-- UHHH

[limpid portal]

No, it's made of cheese

[gilded quail]

Food mod when

[opal mauve]

You just piece together the moon models from tiny 3d models of cheese

...I should do that now as a challenge to myself

Make a moon using only 3d models of cheese

[limpid portal]

IT WORKS

[opal mauve]

YES

[limpid portal]

I don't know if I'm a god or a demon right now

[opal mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[limpid portal]

You're gonna love this clip I'm about to share

[onyx dirge]

Gonna eat your moons

[onyx dirge]

The literal moon orbiting around our planet but the texture is all compressed cheese pngs

ranging from cheddar to gorgonzola

😩

[opal mauve]

...if I get bored I'm actually gonna do this

Make a moon using only cheese models

I'm sure nothing could go wrong

[onyx dirge]

Make a solar system with a bunch of moons based on different cheese types

Call it the cheesyverse

😂

[opal mauve]

"130 Gorgonzola" does sound like a good moon

[uneven plover]

also could you figure out how to have the floor not pop in? its pretty distracting

[opal mauve]

That is dope

I can now realize my dream of letting ANY enemy spawn outside on Secret Labs

Though that Snare Flea did seem a tad confused

[onyx dirge]

Very very real

Masa can taste the moon already

[gilded quail]

Can you lure enemies into the pits? I tried once with baboon hawks, but I don't think it worked

[opal mauve]

Enemies are pretty smart about not using things their Navmesh says no to

It might be possible with Thumpers though if there's no wall for them to hit

[gilded quail]

They have no brakes, so they have no choice

[onyx dirge]

Holy shit, this is actually the first time Masa has seen a Snare Flea outside

[opal mauve]

That's because they typically horribly break and can't find anywhere to hide

Triskelion is a map designed perfectly for them though

[onyx dirge]

True true true

We need to see snare fleas in action on a map like Auralis 👀

[viral oasis]

oh god what if it was possible for one to hide in your ship

[onyx dirge]

OH GOD

[opal mauve]

LMAO

I WANT THAT NOW

[opal mauve]

If you want something like that to work without horribly breaking, you'd have to put navmeshes in the trees

An idea I don't like

I don't need Masked spawning in the trees

[onyx dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-gif-23893070

[onyx dirge]

They're in the trees

[opal mauve]

No they aren't, get out of my head

[onyx dirge]

They're in the trees Nikki

[opal mauve]

[limpid portal]

The navmesh itself wouldn't actually make anything spawn up there, so if you make it so that the navmesh isn't actually connect to the ground you could actually place a snare flea up there and not let ground-based enemies go up to the navmesh

Idk how snare flea ai would actually handle that though

[opal mauve]

Interesting concept for sure

Something to play around with for future maps

As long as there's no Masked in the trees I'm cool with the idea

Just please keep the mask men out of the trees, unless you add the ability for players to climb trees

this is a joke, don't do that

[limpid portal]

You can just put ladder scripts with no ladders/ladder sounds near trees

[opal mauve]

Just do it with every single tree for no good reason

[limpid portal]

xD

[opal mauve]

I'm sure Auralis only has, what, like 800 trees?

[limpid portal]

Now one more test, then I wanna try and adjust one more thing in the code. I need to see if spawning an enemy outside still triggers the outsideAI to take over

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/controlmypc-cat-screaming-discord-gif-20582295

[opal mauve]

A special climbable tree could be a cool map easter egg though, if the tree looks different enough to stand out

[opal mauve]

Wdym by spawning? Is that not what's already happening?

Or do you mean with like cheat mods

[limpid portal]

Like they spawn from a vent

That was just a test of placing enemy prefabs in the scene

[opal mauve]

Ahhh

[onyx dirge]

Next thing you know Audio's gonna tell us he made a enemy mod

[limpid portal]

Eventually, yes :3c

[onyx dirge]

A

[opal mauve]

I assume by a vent you mean an outdoor spawn point since there's not actually "vents" outside

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/gawr-gura-gawr-gura-gif-18439720

[onyx dirge]

You're just collecting the infinity mods at this point

You have 3 of them already

[onyx dirge]

🦈 💙

[limpid portal]

Correct, though placing a prefab vent outside does, in fact, work. It just has to deal with sharing the inside vent system, so it won't always spawn things

Actually lemme try setting an inside enemy as an outdoor spawn directly

That'd be much faster to test if it works lol

[opal mauve]

Yeah that's definitely the better way to handle it

[limpid portal]

@formal thorn I have cooked today

[opal mauve]

Typically, vents should spawn indoor enemies and outdoor spawn nodes should spawn outdoor enemies

Placing vents outside seems like asking for things to break

Surprised it works smoothly

[limpid portal]

A vent is just a container for the EnemySpawn tag, really

[opal mauve]

Huh, gotcha

[limpid portal]

So you could place an empty and just tag it EnemySpawn and it'll do the same thing probably

[onyx dirge]

You wanna know something funny about that though?

Depending on how that mod actually works, the shrink mod that just released... if the shrunken people happen to find the nodes at some point or the 'outside vents'....

[limpid portal]

Actually since a vent does have a script, it might function like an outdoor spawn node if it doesn't actually have the script

[onyx dirge]

Teleporting mini people outside

[tender ember]

how does that work weight wise? does the game have different caps for inside and outside?

[limpid portal]

It counts towards indoor spawn power

[tender ember]

ig that would require that mod to add a check if the player is inside

to avoid that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1112883564330102814.gif?size=48&name=catscared&quality=lossless

[onyx dirge]

Possibly yuh

Otherwise though it'd be the funniest cheese strat ever

[bronze girder]

when i remember right brutal company and plus had working outside enemys before

[tender ember]

what i remember that some dev LOVES putting spiders outside and they just bug out

[limpid portal]

Did you see the spider in the video I shared? It placed a web and everything 🥹

[tender ember]

yeyeye

[limpid portal]

Oh? This would be more universal though, plus it wouldn't have a difficulty tweak

[tender ember]

maybe tell him that 👀 but i dont remember who

whos the volcanic moon dev

[limpid portal]

I think Wesley

[opal mauve]

Lethal Escape also has it working, buuut only for enemies spawned by their respective mods

[bronze girder]

you can config the spawns and disable all events, the only thing forced would be the messages i think but yeah that was the first mod i played where you could meet hoarding bugs, nutcrackers outside and all that

[opal mauve]

AudioKnight's patch should apply globally

[tender ember]

ah wesley yes
the author of the 6 nutcrackers moon also i think

[opal mauve]

I also remember Brutal Company's AI not always working properly

[bronze girder]

i just hoped someone was able to take the codes from there, but now you made it possible yourself

[limpid portal]

btw just throwing it out there, someone called me Star here once and I absolutely loved it, so feel free to also call me that, Audio is fine too ofc

[bronze girder]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-lethal-gif-7342018845571405673

[opal mauve]

I'm just glad to see a fix that doesn't involve installing Brutal Company and having my friends freak out cuz I installed BrutalCompany

[opal mauve]

Will keep it in mind!

[bronze girder]

lmao

i just said it as a first timer, just like lethal things had the first enemy i think?

and alright star

[limpid portal]

I love making compatible stuff. I stressed out to make my music mod vanilla compatible (but also work with DiscJockey) and I actually did it

[tender ember]

ye boomba

[opal mauve]

Oh that's a good question

Will this fix only apply to vanilla enemies?

For example, if I wanna try and force a Boomba to use outside nodes

[tender ember]

really cool ngl, that allows for a lot of possibilities for map makers (wesley please stop putting spiders on every map)

[opal mauve]

wanted that for USC Vortex

Boombas patrolling outside

[bronze girder]

lmao

[opal mauve]

MORE SPIDERS

[bronze girder]

the spiders are funny, they always run past you and meet in one corner 👀

[opal mauve]

Not anymore

Now they're gonna do things

And splooge their web n shit

[bronze girder]

i can see how that connects on infernis when you are slown down by webs and the giant greets you, but seeing the coilhead on tris is gonna be nightmares haha

[tender ember]

yeah, backing down into a hole lmao

[onyx dirge]

MASA IS SO GONNA MAKE THAT SPIDER MOON IDEA AGAIN

[limpid portal]

This will apply to anything that utilizes the EnemyAI script present in LC

[opal mauve]

Gotcha

[limpid portal]

Don't worry, that was just a test lol

[opal mauve]

So: depends on how they're coded, basically

Makes sense

Guess we'll see

[onyx dirge]

If people are not gonna take it, Masa will...

Not end that sentence because that would enable people to not take it 😭

[opal mauve]

Considering the Boombas do the thing that vanilla enemies do, which is clump up in one spot, I imagine they might work

[bronze girder]

not sure if you ever knew about it yet but wesleys asteroid map plays a coilhead steppy sound near you which yeah makes you think a coilhead is close

[opal mauve]

I FUCKING HATE THAT

[onyx dirge]

Absolutely hate that

[bronze girder]

lmao

[onyx dirge]

It made Masa JUMP

[opal mauve]

and now I can add a rare chance for it to be an actual Coilhead

So you'll never know

[tender ember]

https://tenor.com/view/devilish-grin-gif-15993726

[bronze girder]

if starlancer ever gets enemies one of them should be a glow head coilhead

[onyx dirge]

.........

Random... Herobrine outside..

[tender ember]

damn i wish insanity remastered wasnt abandoned

ngl

[bronze girder]

seeing light come closer oofies

[tender ember]

random sounds were scary af

[bronze girder]

i use resonance for some scary sounds which sometimes get me

like i heard screaming on triskelion and i thought first it was the moon itself

[onyx dirge]

resonance makes solo gameplay impossible 😭

[tender ember]

does resonance need anything compatibility wise? was thinking of getting it but not sure how it handles that

[bronze girder]

"LCMaxSounsFix" is the only thing it comes with

[tender ember]

i mean as in how it feels with other mods

[bronze girder]

it has ambient music, main menu music, different sounds for some items and even monster 👀

[limpid portal]

Navmesh prevents enemy stupidity like that sadly

[bronze girder]

most sounds are keept vanilla but remastered

[limpid portal]

I'll test changing up the LOD distance

[bronze girder]

and if star adds sounds additionally they arent replaced as custom sounds from moons still work

[limpid portal]

They always kinda wiggle around when they first drop without hitting a player

[bronze girder]

now you reminded me of the wiggle wiggle song

[opal mauve]

Fair

Snare fleas do be wiggly

[tender ember]

damn gotta throw in another 10 mods into my pack

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1181978266760917122.gif?size=48&name=bean_CatHellNaw&quality=lossless

[bronze girder]

eitherway i been a fan of starlancer moons, and i started using them recently with all interior mods with it to go

[opal mauve]

They've come a long way, I remember how much I disliked Auralis on first release

[tender ember]

honestly starlancer are my fav and its not even close

[bronze girder]

i love seeing office with auralis not sure why, i prolly played to much upturned lately

[tender ember]

i played office on auralis once, def wouldnt recommend

decided to start packing our things and leave at like 9-10pm

12pm hadnt found the exit even

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1159653986681499768.webp?size=48&name=f_cry&quality=lossless

[bronze girder]

lmao

[tender ember]

set office to free moons only after this

nuh uh

[bronze girder]

a radio is aslong as the day takes i think, i keep that with me as a timer

office generation itself is big, and i think you can tweak it in the config

[tender ember]

my issue with it is how empty it is compared to its size

[opal mauve]

Office has some known loot and size bugs that are being worked on

[limpid portal]

So it seems like something prevents inside enemies from spawning when set to the Outside spawnlist. I might try to expand on that functionality later, but for now I'm gonna test a vent

[tender ember]

btw, am i misremembering things or did ac have an outside config that allowed inside enemies to spawn?

or vice versa

[bronze girder]

Are you the .... ||Imposter?!||

[opal mauve]

Weird, they definitely work when I use AdvancedCompany

Well, work as in they spawn

Idk about further functionality lmao

[limpid portal]

I set the spore puppy to be the only outside enemy and had no spawns

wait

Maybe it can't exist in both lists at the same time

[opal mauve]

Nah, I don't think that's it

Could be wrong though

Could have just been RNG as to why they didn't spawn

I had to set them to egregious numbers and test several times to see them

RNG a bitch

[limpid portal]

I'll give it another try sans-Vent

Yeah, no luck. I did get confirmation of masked being able to levitate jump across the gap though

[opal mauve]

Gotcha

Once you have a release I'll have to test alongside AC

[limpid portal]

kk, probably won't be too long

[opal mauve]

I assume rn you're just testing with your patch and StarlancerMoons?

[limpid portal]

Yee

[opal mauve]

Makes sense, makes sense

[limpid portal]

Nothing in the code is specific to any moon or anything

Just easier to test when I can control spawns and scenes more easily

[opal mauve]

Mhm

When I test I'll test the patch alongside AC and vanilla moons

See if Coilheads work outside on Offense 😛

[onyx dirge]

omg, imagine if you can spawn in lootbugs that are holding onto a scrap

[opal mauve]

Haha, that'd have to be another mod I imagine

But a fun idea

A huge planet with no interior and Lootbugs with loot everywhere