Lethal company variables [Configure everything to your liking]. (formally LethalCompanyVariables )

[native cloak]

Looks like a bug with the mod

[fast gull]

weird

That mod is kinda old

[native cloak]

I mean it was updated a week ago

Nevermind, I fixed it

The AI type is "InverseCoilhead" which I had set before but maybe I didn't save or something

Here's the real new version
018d7e2e-96f9-1fc3-987b-920d37b8267d

[fast gull]

@here New hotfix version

1.8.2

Fixed

• Weathers now sync correctly when player joins the game

[ruby flicker]

its just fixed?

[fast gull]

yea sorry I pressed enter to fast

[native cloak]

lol

[ruby flicker]

imagine a mod maker just says Fix as the changelog everytime they fix a bug

[fast gull]

Im not sure about exactly that but i've seen developers just say "Some bugfixes"

So kinda the same

[native cloak]

updated

[fast gull]

Or as v49 for lethal company did

no one ever knew there was an update

[ruby flicker]

zeekerss should add a "your version is out of date* to tell people the game has updated

[fast gull]

It does

Wait you mean like "Hey, the game has a new update, quit and update"

[ruby flicker]

ye

[fast gull]

Thats pretty hard to code to be fair

but would be nice

[ruby flicker]

would keep the "host is playing on {version date} while your on {version date}

out

[fast gull]

I mean thats not a big deal

[ruby flicker]

also what is version date should have just said version

[fast gull]

until mods get in between

some mods love to just say they are made for other version

[fast gull]

lol

[ruby flicker]

seems steam has data of a pirated game i got strange

it tracking time played on the games real download

[native cloak]

for how scuffed this game is, it sure is a lot of fun

[ruby flicker]

the unfun ones are clipping thoguh railings

i clipped though a railing and even clipped though the death pits death barrier

[native cloak]

or the rendering lag

[native cloak]

That may have been caused by your 200 mods though

unless if it was vanilla

[ruby flicker]

mods

only started happening with modded moons but fixes when dying

[fast gull]

im lost of words in this conversation lol

[native cloak]

lol

[ruby flicker]

did this get updated im only getting configurable company

[fast gull]

yea it did

but thunderstore may take some time

[ruby flicker]

any other mods that let you edit stuff

[fast gull]

hmm it depends on what you want to edit

[ruby flicker]

everythingsomethings

[fast gull]

I might need some details

but if you search for configs, settings or utilities you might find something

[ruby flicker]

what about lethal utilitys

[fast gull]

never used it

try it out

[ruby flicker]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/kyxino/LethalUtilities/

i added this is the mod within the link

mistake

in game customization i hope is uh won;t overlap

[native cloak]

I'm pretty sure that messes with LCV spawn rates

[ruby flicker]

i don't change spawn rates ofton

infact i mostly spawn them in myself do nothing

[fast gull]

No one complained about it not working

I suppose it just sums the values

[ruby flicker]

it says alot of stuff like weight and stuff

weather multipliers might be an issue

[native cloak]

If you want fun spawns, try my modpack with my LCV settings

[native cloak]

Weather multipliers are for loot values on moons that have active weather

[ruby flicker]

typing this before my internet cuts again!

i my internet went out for a minute

i think its back

[native cloak]

Oof

[ruby flicker]

i decided its something that does not interest me

[fast gull]

Alright

If you however want any configuration to be added, remember you can always make a suggestion and If its possible and could benefit the user experience I will add it to the configs

[ruby flicker]

scrap selector is my suggestion

where do i submit

[native cloak]

I just came up with an idea

[fast gull]

You just make sure I read the message (I did) and thats all lol

[native cloak]

You know how each save slot has it's own LCV save?

[fast gull]

yea

[native cloak]

You should add LCV save slots

[fast gull]

except the challenge file

[ruby flicker]

is the suggestion about saving a varaible profile to load and save so you can load a profile you already made for easy use

didn't see that message abovd

[fast gull]

yea, config presets and sharing is already planned but it might take some time

[native cloak]

Nice

[ruby flicker]

i need 6 mods for a true 200 mod list what should i add

[fast gull]

Nah its a planned feature but I never actually talk about it

[native cloak]

Ya, that would be an insane add

Ontop of more enemy spawn options

Maybe enemy health and enemy damage settings too?

[ruby flicker]

should i get snachenbracken mod seems like an nice mod and won't breaken insta kill

ye i think im gonna get it

already made mimics act as real players

[native cloak]

Lol

[ruby flicker]

they dance if you dance and crouch sometimes

[slate wraith]

help

what is this bug??

[fast gull]

i dont even recognize that map

[slate wraith]

on any map

[fast gull]

I think you should ask in #modding-general

[slate wraith]

Was the hotbar originally 3 columns?

i didnt install hot bar mod

[fast gull]

Those kind of things you should ask first in #1174678494417010718 or #modding-general because we can't determine what is the issue (except if it might be related to LCV) so you might find a solution there easily

[ruby flicker]

i have 200 mods now!

[warm pine]

hi! i have a suggestion for an option to turn off being able to alter enemy spawn chances, i want to use lethal escape but also love some features in this mod. but they conflict because the spawn chances conflict either causing hardly anything to spawn, or like 4000 things to spawn.

[native cloak]

Having settings to disable stuff would actually be kind of cool

So for example, If you already have a weather mod, you can just disable the weather bit of the config so it doesn't overlap it

[ruby flicker]

experiment starts rainy because of my mods

new save its rainin

oo maybe a starting planet we can select

[fast gull]

sadly disabling configs based on other mods is not reliable, however let me look into the issue to make the mod compatible so you dont have to worry aboutt that

[fast gull]

Do you mind sharing you profile code and enemy spawns config (a screenshoot will do)

[warm pine]

yes. ill reset up the configs since i already removed them to be able to use your mod

[fast gull]

Alright, also, Do you mind telling me what configs did cause a compatibility issue wity the mod?

[warm pine]

018d8499-3c34-9fe6-8ee6-36254d067479 the config is for the mod "enemyspawner" i believe whats conflicting is my spawn chances set in the enemy spawner mod, and the lobby settings with all the enemy chances set to 1 in this mod cant be edited by enemy spawner because the variable mod forces all the spawn settings to be 1, not allowing inside enemies outside or vise versa

idk

i dont have a lot of a knowledge with this stuff

[fast gull]

LCV should use the value of the other mod and just multiply it

[warm pine]

oh

[fast gull]

So if its not multiplying thats weird

[warm pine]

well i was told that 10 = 100 and like 3 = 30 percent, so maybe thats wrong and i just havent seen anything because its set at like 3 percent

ill test that later

[fast gull]

hmm Im not sure im understanding you sorry

[warm pine]

its alright

[fast gull]

so you set a 3% in the other mod and let this mod with default value (1), right?

[warm pine]

yes, but someone told me that chances are multiplied by 10 in enemy spawners config. that might not be true though

[fast gull]

well I havent seen the mod but if they are percents and you set it to 3% they might be value * 3/100 and then that gets multiplyed by what you had set in LCV, in this case 1 so no changes

disclaimer I dont know if the other mod uses percents as I mentioned

[ruby flicker]

i reached 208 mods

[ruby flicker]

@fast gull the landmine multiplier and turrent multiplier have the exact same text

both have landmine in the name for turrent

[fast gull]

oopsie

silly me I totally didn't copy paste the description and just forgot to change the only word I had to change

[ruby flicker]

i think it should be fixed when the next update comes instead of rn

messing with turrent spawn rates

[fast gull]

yea its not gamebreaker

[fast gull]

I could arguee that feels like a normal day

[ruby flicker]

titan

i would not have survived with out "armor"

[native cloak]

As normal as my enemy spawns

[fast gull]

yea, average titan dine run

also Cooljs, the event mod has all it's structure finished, now I can just create the events wich should be prety easy

[native cloak]

Pog

[native cloak]

I feel like if I went back to vanilla now, I would be cracked

[fast gull]

You should be able to reach day 100

[native cloak]

Lol

But where is the fun in that? I could just get day 100 on my 10x run

[fast gull]

I mean

Even if you play harder

if someone sees "100 days on letha lcompany vanilla"

somehow they like it more than x10 spawns

or any other mod

[native cloak]

Yep

100 days would be like Q33 I think

[fast gull]

well

it depends if you modify the length of your quotas

[native cloak]

That's lame though

[fast gull]

still LCV has a config for it and im planning to add more settings

[native cloak]

Ya Ik

[native cloak]

@fast gull I updated 2 mods and now the game runs on like 20 fps even in the ship

The 2 mods were More Company and LCV + Configurable Company

[native cloak]

It's More Company

[fast gull]

Did you find the issue then @native cloak ?

[native cloak]

ya

It was more company

It got fixed though

V1.8.1 fixed it

[fast gull]

Thats perfect

[native cloak]

I'll be up for at least an hour or 2 if you need anything

[fast gull]

Don't worry, currently Im cooking something else

[native cloak]

YOOOOO

Imma let you cook on that

[fast gull]

yea everything is working Is just the feeling of the panel that I dont like

[native cloak]

Is there going to be an ingame config for this like LCV?

[fast gull]

I will use Configurable company tbh

[native cloak]

pog

need any default event ideas? I could probably brainstorm a few if you want

Do you think it's possible for one to double enemy spawns and work with LCV so if you have the spawn rates set to 10x and you get the 2x enemy spawns event, it would spawn 20x?

[fast gull]

I have some ideas ready but yea, that would help (however I think you should DM me them so people dont get confuses with this thread)

[fast gull]

Yea, I will make everything compatible

[native cloak]

@fast gull I got a new clip from 10x spawns

https://youtu.be/pA0y4WmhtCI

[fast gull]

that freddy was ready for the 87's bite

[native cloak]

it looped

oof

Might need to fix that

[fast gull]

so you can edit uploaded videos?

[native cloak]

Looks like it

Now it's fixed

Idk why it did that

[fast gull]

you have to tell me how you modify uploaded videos

The amount of times is messed up a video is insane

[ruby flicker]

lets get a scrap protection varaible

[fast gull]

I love the idea but there is someone that also made a mod for Configurable company that implements that

I can add it but I think as a fellow developer who uses my API you can check his mod and you will be able to configure it like LCV. PreventLoosingScrap

[ruby flicker]

is it a ingame menu

oh i see now

[fast gull]

LCV's in-game menu uses the same API that this one uses

[ruby flicker]

does everyone need or just host

[fast gull]

Does the config say client synchronize?

[ruby flicker]

can't check cuz game takes 10 years to load

[fast gull]

lol

well if it's correctly dont it should be host only

[ruby flicker]

im refining modpack removing and adding even more mods

[fast gull]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I understand now

well, right now im kinda bussy (almost time to sleep) so I wont be able to tell you fn

[ruby flicker]

its does not say client needs

[fast gull]

that's perfec then

[native cloak]

Good morning

It is now 4 PM and I've awaken from my slumber

[ruby flicker]

i have to

[native cloak]

@fast gull New Duo record, we got to Quota 1,280 before we completely through. Best part is we were actually able to run Titan

with 10x spawns obviously

[fast gull]

you are already doing x10 like if it was casual

but worry no more

LE Events is almost ready to mess your record

[native cloak]

Let's goooo

[fast gull]

You might want to check out the mod preview but I think the beta will be released today or tomorrow

[native cloak]

I'm going to install it instantly

[ruby flicker]

can we disable and enable certain eventsor choose?

[fast gull]

Yea you will be able to change their probability

However the mod will still be a beta (not because it does not work but because most of the things may change after some feedback

[native cloak]

nice

[native cloak]

This chat disappeared for me

[ruby flicker]

not for me yet

i hate how discord unfollows you

[fast gull]

Yea discord kinda decides to archieve threads if they are not active

[native cloak]

It was only like 2 days

[ruby flicker]

finally got custom music on the boombox

#emotes how does this come up with gamemaster and this post?

[fast gull]

uh?

[fast gull]

I could change it to be a week tho

[ruby flicker]

#emote will come up with 3 results this post and gamemaster and

lethalstats

[fast gull]

thats weird lol

[ruby flicker]

how is the events coming

also idk experimentation always starts flooded now

every new save game experiment is always flooded

[fast gull]

it was good until I started developing the events

then I noticed that, even if the API is powerful, it wont let developers create the events in a way I would like

so it's under some maintenance before releasing

[ruby flicker]

did you make config company

[fast gull]

(I wont release it until the system is done because any modification post-release could break other mods)

[fast gull]

Configurable company?

yea

[fast gull]

that's because the game always chooses seed "0" for the first day thus, always the same weather will happen with the only variation being if you use LCV to modify chances

[ruby flicker]

OH I GOT IT NOW

i think

flooded was saying 50 but it was closer to 51

im moving none close to 51 and seeing if it fixes it

nope still flooded

[fast gull]

You might need to change the chances drastically

And recreate the game

as after the weather is choosen

it will remain choosen

[ruby flicker]

to many ecplised for my liking lol

also maybe to many moons too

wait titanic aint a moon

[fast gull]

men you have the whole mikly way there

[ruby flicker]

the bottom

love causes mini nuclear bombs

[fast gull]

what the actual f-

[ruby flicker]

i have a rocket launcher lasergun golden shovel and lot more combat items!

[ruby flicker]

you see the 3 big terminals in the back

[native cloak]

This is terrifying considering I play with 10x spawns now

[ruby flicker]

i just remembered its not normal to open the ship door in space

[native cloak]

Strat when I come across an Eclipsed Titan now is to bring 2 stuns and buy an item when I land to keep the dogs destracted while I book it for the stairs before the giants can even see me and on my way back, I throw a stun off the stairs and jump down onto the ship and close the door

20 dogs + a ton of giants is terrifying

[ruby flicker]

i think the terminal scales the moons by diffculty

if it was a to z assureance would be at top

[fast gull]

How do you manage to complete quotas?

[fast gull]

I think is a fixed order that the developer sets

so like "order 5" and it will try to place that moon the 5th

but I have no idea

[ruby flicker]

man flooded is horrible now since a mod makes the interior flood too

[native cloak]

It's normal for me at this point. My skill level has grown from this

and it's not too bad

[ruby flicker]

no.. no NOO

ITS GOTTEN INSIDE

[fast gull]

That's insane

[fast gull]

Dunno, seems like a fancy swimming pool

[ruby flicker]

zeekerss should really fix water

[fast gull]

why lol

[ruby flicker]

you fall at the same speed

[native cloak]

jump in it

[ruby flicker]

dead

also no i will not get up

dog cheated

also that low pitch dog howl was so funny

[native cloak]

I feel like the Herobrine spawn rate was turned up when the Herobrine mod got updated and he is now busted. I might have to turn down the spawn chance in LCV

Bro's cracked

[fast gull]

luckly for you, LCV is compatible with any single modded enemy

except if the developer just decided to be different

[native cloak]

Funny thing is if I don't want something to be 10x I can just set there spawn probability to 0.1. It's not perfect but it helps with spawning less ghost girls

[fast gull]

Hmm the effect should be almost the same in reality

[native cloak]

My MonstersPlus spawns too

I don't know if MonstersPlus actually spawns modded Monsters though

[fast gull]

from what I saw at the source code it doesn't

but I could be wrong and they updated it

[native cloak]

Last update was early December

I think

It may have been early January

[fast gull]

then I dont think it does...

[native cloak]

Oof

[ruby flicker]

jan 8

was v47 the hotfixes came the same day i think

[golden swallow]

I'm having an issue where once I install this mod, my monitor on the ship goes blank. The one that should show the moon the ship is orbiting, along with the weather and such. If I disable this mod, all is well again. Anyone else ever see this?

[fast gull]

Hello haxe

Afaik that issue never happened before

so if you don't mind sharing your profile code so I can check for any issue with the mod Ill glad to help :)

[golden swallow]

Will do! Give me just a few minutes.

[fast gull]

No problem

However I wont be able to check the issue right now (its 1am here) but Ill check it as soon as I can

Meanwhile if you happen to see any error in the console you can share it to check it too

[golden swallow]

Yeah I'm trying to clean up some of the disabled mods right now so that the profile isn't so heavy, and I'll remove stuff like CleanerLogs which might interfere with debugging.

[fast gull]

alright

[golden swallow]

[Info :Configurable Company Variables] StartOfRound::SetMapScreenInfoToCurrentLevel [Postfix]
[Info :Configurable Company Variables] StartOfRound::SetPlanetsWeather [Prefix]
[Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
Lethal_Company_Variables.model.Configuration.OverridePlanetWeatherSelecting (StartOfRound startOfRound, System.Int32 connectedPlayers) (at <8b413157e681404786f18350a6c8352a>:0)
Lethal_Company_Variables.patch.StartOfRoundPatch.SetPlanetsWeather_Prefix (StartOfRound __instance, System.Int32 connectedPlayersOnServer) (at <8b413157e681404786f18350a6c8352a>:0)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::SetPlanetsWeather(StartOfRound,int)
StartOfRound.SetTimeAndPlanetToSavedSettings () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:0)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::Start(StartOfRound)

[fast gull]

I would also suggest to remove any mod that you tend to always have disabled

[fast gull]

Do you have any custom weather mod?

or mod that changes how the weather works

[golden swallow]

018da4e9-ba3a-6c2c-0826-75ba429a762b

No other weather mod besides this one.

[fast gull]

Alright, Ill check the issue as soon as possible and notify you

[golden swallow]

Take your time! And thanks!

[fast gull]

Thank you for using the mod!

[fast gull]

@golden swallowFound your issue, will be fixed in the next update, meanwhile you can fix the problem by setting the config Allow every weather to ON

There won't be a difference with your settings:)

[fast gull]

Also @native cloak I just finished something you might enjoy

[native cloak]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Update when?

[fast gull]

15 of February

[native cloak]

Pog

And it defaults to the default number too?

[fast gull]

yea

[native cloak]

huge

[fast gull]

those are the default values

even for modded ones

[native cloak]

I can't wait

This would help so much with the 20 herobrine spawns I keep getting

[fast gull]

lmao

[native cloak]

and ghost girl can finally be capped at 1

[fast gull]

I will keep the cap multiplier

[native cloak]

(Unless MonstersPlus spawns stuff too)

[fast gull]

for compatibility and just because why not

[fast gull]

pretty sure it does

but

at least for the reason you use it

you might or might not need it anymore

[native cloak]

Are you also adding that too???

[fast gull]

yea, there are two more configs that I will add

one I already tested it and works perfectly

the other one Im still testing

[native cloak]

Best update

Spawns are finally going to be less scuffed

[fast gull]

Oh other thing

After checking the base game

I noticed that in fact, enemies can spawn from open vents

[native cloak]

YES

THIS IS AWESOME

[fast gull]

and that eclipse adds enemies every hour

not just at the start of the game

[native cloak]

I'M ABOUT TO DIE SO HARD

[fast gull]

at least that is what found

[native cloak]

Well I wouldn't normally realize because 90% of the time if the moon is eclipsed, I die to 1 of the 20 dogs that spawn when the ship lands anyways lol

[fast gull]

lol

I mean, its just some information that I didn't know

Wich makes eclipse even harder

[native cloak]

interesting

so now I should do 10x spawns eclipse only runs?

[fast gull]

but it uses a variable called "minEnemiesToSpawn" that is really scuffed

[fast gull]

You wont need with the multipliers now

[native cloak]

10x spawns kind of got easy, time to 25x spawns

[fast gull]

lol

you might even need a new CPU with that many enemies

[native cloak]

A little fire never hurt nobody

[fast gull]

hmmm

not sure about that statement

[native cloak]

lol

Is all of this releasing with today's update?

[fast gull]

If nothing goes wrong

Yea

but I doubt anything will fail

[native cloak]

Don't worry, if there are any bugs, I'll most likely find it

[fast gull]

thats good lol

but somehow some bugs are just weird edge cases

for example the bug that haxe reported only happens if all weathers are 0, the default weather is not 0, the weather probability override is on and not every weather is allowed

[native cloak]

I mean. This is Lethal Company, you know the INSANELY POLISHED GAME

[fast gull]

lmao

I mean, there are not that many bugs, is just how it's designed

I think the biggest problem is that there is not a consolidated api to create mods and some features in the base game are not though to be expandable

[native cloak]

It's not designed for 26 dogs and 43 giants

[fast gull]

for exaample interiors, there is no way to add configuration for interiors as they are not loaded when in the menu, so I cant add settings for that (until I find a workaround)

[fast gull]

yea

also, unity does not like that either

[native cloak]

lol

I wonder if unreal would have been better

[fast gull]

I dont think so

for what I know, unreal only benefits from GPU to render stuff while I think the real problem is with the AI sometimes

[native cloak]

oh

[native cloak]

math

[fast gull]

yea, definetly works

[native cloak]

So does that just mean enemy spawn multiplier has to equal 15? (Me knowing nothing about code lol)

[fast gull]

Works so well I think I need to split the multipliers between outside and inside enemies

[fast gull]

Nah, its just a math operation, 0 * 1 + 0 + 15 = 15

[native cloak]

oh

That also makes sense now

[fast gull]

But
0(init) -> The base value the game selected
1(multi) -> The multiplier from the config
0(min) -> A value from a new config
15(start) -> A value from another config

simple algorithm lol

[native cloak]

fair enough

[native cloak]

ya, you would have to

This is the only mod that will actually be able to customize enemy spawns like this (Trust me, I hunted for them)

I forgot I had my pronouns set to this 🤣

Plains Biome is crazy

[fast gull]

My goal was and still is to allow the user to modify everything in the game

so to achieve that is what I seek lol

[fast gull]

I also have "pronouns" but not as hard as those ones

[native cloak]

and this is part of everything

[fast gull]

yea, the more configurable the better

[native cloak]

lol

[fast gull]

but somehow people don't realize this mod exists and they just create a non-optimal mod to change the same thing but with less options or just not viable to modify it for each save file

[native cloak]

Or they just go out and play Brutal Company or whatever else is popular

[fast gull]

yea but that mod just changes the game completly, it's not like that mod does the same as this one

still, I wanna finish the event mod as that has a lot more options than any of the event mods I've seen

[native cloak]

I was going to say I like to keep my modpack vanillaish but I don't think 10x spawns is vanillaish

[native cloak]

It would also be so much better than Brutal Company

Brutal Company just isn't fair

"Spawns 200 turrets at the main entrance" Have fun profiting on that day

[fast gull]

I heard there is a newever brutal brutal company

I know all players need the mod

but I dont know if it's actually fair

[native cloak]

lol

At least 10x spawns is survivable. Turrets are not

[fast gull]

Even less in singleplayer

cause in multiplayer you can at least disable them

[native cloak]

ya

You wanna see me scream?

Now that was a real scream of horror

[fast gull]

I love the idea of prefering to commit suicide instead of letting him get you

Truly a definition of "you will never take me alive"

[native cloak]

It was fight or flight and I choose flight

you know it's bad when it's 12 AM and we are like "It's time to go"

That's actually later than we normally stay

At that point there are like 20 enemies inside and we don't want to deal with 20 outside too

[fast gull]

How did you get 500 in that time

[native cloak]

mostly luck but also we are just cracked

That was default scrap spawn too

[fast gull]

I mean

getting the apparatus that soon is pretty good

[native cloak]

It was literally at main entrance

Also not getting mansion helps

[fast gull]

I kinda prefer the mansion

it scarier, bigger and harder to navigate

but Its easier to find loot

[native cloak]

Not with 10x spawns, the scrap is way farther from the entrance so it takes you more time to loot and you have to go deeper into it to find anything.

More time is not doable when you need to get in, grab stuff, and get out before 14 crawlers spawn

[fast gull]

Pipe labyrinth enters the chat

I mean, most of the times you will always get something due to the amount of possible paths you can take

[native cloak]

Pipe labyrinth I could walk into the main entrance, turn the corner and find a loot room

mansion doesn't really have loot rooms

[fast gull]

I guess all depends on having a good generation after all

[fast gull]

The kitchen usualy has a lot

but also every room has a sligly higher chance of loot than the normal facility

[native cloak]

It's just more spread out loot. Facility often has loot piles and Mansion is just bigger so the loot is pushed out farther

which is a horrible combo when 4 Brakens spawn by like 9 AM

[fast gull]

I think in the end is just a preference, both succ depending on what situation you are in lmao

[native cloak]

But either way, once you get your enemy limiter working, I'm probably going to only limit a few things like Centipedes, giants, dogs, baboon hawks, Worms, ghost girl, and herobrine. Maybe I will also limit the spore and bug spawns too just so the spawns get put towards other stuff.

[native cloak]

I also kind of like mansion more but 10x spawn mansion is horrible

[fast gull]

New update with tons of things!

1.9.0

Added

• Individual enemy cap settings to configure how many enemies of any type can spawn
• Min enemies to spawn configuration for a more reliable challenge
• Starting enemies configuration to set a minimum amount of enemies to spawn in the level

Fixed

• Error when all weather chances were set to 0
• No weather probability now works correctly without the Allow every weather option

Modified

• Enemy spawn configurations are now split between outside and inside enemies
• Patches now will execute after other mods so they will override their settings (or amplificate them)

[golden swallow]

Thank you!

[fast gull]

you're welcome, it is fixed with this update

[native cloak]

Huge. Sorry, I was shredding on controller

[fast gull]

You dont have to be sorry for not answering the updates lol

[native cloak]

lol

[fast gull]

Just make sure to enjoy the additions :)

[native cloak]

Clip won't send

this is basically what I was doing https://youtu.be/l_MYzfTLiX0

[native cloak]

Testing it right now without MonstersPlus but it is 5:30 AM so I'll have to do a deep dive tomorrow but I can at least test it out.

[fast gull]

lmao

[fast gull]

Don't worry

I already tested everything

[native cloak]

pog

[fast gull]

You just need to change the starting enemies

and that will work the same as monsters plus

but taking into consideration what monsters can and can not spawn

their chances

and everything

[native cloak]

Is there also an option for spawning enemies every hour too?

[fast gull]

yes there is

for both inside and outside enemies

although you now can limit the number of giants of I dont think you need to modify have it differenciated

[native cloak]

Oooooo

so I can make outside enemies spawn later?

[fast gull]

wdym

like making them spawn after 3 hours for example?

[native cloak]

ya

[fast gull]

not really

You can spawn outside enemies at the start, at the afternoon but not after X tries or hours

[native cloak]

oh

ya that's fine then

[fast gull]

didn't even though about adding that lol

[native cloak]

oh lol

[fast gull]

It could be done but is such a weird thing lol

I could

[native cloak]

I mean it isn't necessary if there spawns could still be set to afternoon

but could be a cool addition

[fast gull]

For now I might focus more on other settings that might be less specific

but yea, I will add it to the todo

[native cloak]

Just looking at this now, this is sick

[fast gull]

Keep in mind that those are different settings for enemy spawning

so your previous settings for those configs dont exist anymore

[native cloak]

ya

so what should I set for all of these if I'm going for good spawns

I'm thinking, 3 starting enemies

Enemy cap multiplier can be set to 1 now right?

[shadow wolf]

the company building sorta counts as a day

[native cloak]

I'm about to have so much fun

I'll have to adjust the settings to my liking but this is sick

[fast gull]

the spawn follows the same rules for normal spawn so you may need to increase it

[native cloak]

so I should still keep it at 10?

[fast gull]

I think the number in the save file counts landings so it should be accurate

[fast gull]

yea

or lower it as now spawns are more reliable

[native cloak]

true

I'll mess around with it more tomorrow

I'm off to sleep

[fast gull]

dont worry

have some rest, you can enjoy the update tomorrow

[native cloak]

enjoy I will

[shadow wolf]

u should chance the button spawn to 10x

[native cloak]

I already do

[fast gull]

there is a mod that should fix sounds failing when there are many enemies

that might be wonderful for you

[shadow wolf]

maxsoundfix

[fast gull]

yep, that one

thanks!

[native cloak]

Thank you so much

[shadow wolf]

also i dont know if this is also the case with this mod but for some mods that edit scrap spawn chances if up ut it at 1.2 it gives u 2x as much scrap and 2 gives u 10x scrap

[shadow wolf]

gl breaking ur ears

[fast gull]

This mod should modify scrap values correctly

even the value for the apparatus and beehives

[shadow wolf]

so if i put it on 2 its 2x

[fast gull]

yep

I mean

[shadow wolf]

im talking abt spawn chances

[fast gull]

ohhh

scrap spawn chance

that too

[shadow wolf]

yh

[fast gull]

you can both modify chances an rates

[shadow wolf]

cuz otherwise stuff like this happens

[fast gull]

but scrap spawn chance is a range so after the game selects a number of scraps that gets multiplied by your amount

[fast gull]

what mod did taht

[shadow wolf]

lethalutilities

[fast gull]

as you might have two mods modifying the scrap value

[native cloak]

018dad19-a1f6-d2ca-d741-3a67737e3fd8 Here is an updated modpack btw, I'll send my LCV config tomorrow

[shadow wolf]

i dont think so but might

[fast gull]

If for sure you dont have two mods doing that

[shadow wolf]

bc its normal like this

[fast gull]

then it might be that mod just doing something weird

[shadow wolf]

i put it on 1.2 and its just normal amounts

but 2x gives 10 times as much

[fast gull]

If you want you can use Lethal company variables for that

might be as well what you wnat

:)

[shadow wolf]

i already have the mod but im too lazy to go edit since its the same result

[fast gull]

I didn't understand that

The config is inside the game

[shadow wolf]

basically i have a different mod that does the same but is clunkier

how's your day going so far

[fast gull]

oh okay okay

wait, so you have a clunkier mod for the scrap amount, you also have lethal utilities and also lethal company variables?

Or am I wrong

[fast gull]

Just finished updating the mod so I can now chill and play minecraft lmao

[shadow wolf]

no its lethal utilities

[shadow wolf]

survival or server

[shadow wolf]

but its a really confusing mdo

have a nice day i gtg

[fast gull]

okay okay

[fast gull]

survival

[fast gull]

have a nice day!

[shadow wolf]

nice

[shadow wolf]

u2

[fast gull]

@here If you guys wanted to be able to reset and revert modifications you done to the settings by holding a key, would you like something like this?
Ctrl + Click Reset that config to default value
Shift + Click Revert that config to stored value

[ruby flicker]

so you know how i have my modpack and one with the essenials to join me

[fast gull]

didn't understand the part about essenials but yea

[ruby flicker]

ive added almost 70 more mods to it

[fast gull]

my man has half the thunderstore mods in the game

[native cloak]

More than half, most of them are modpacks

[warm pine]

quick question, does everyone need to mod to be able to use "any moon can have weather"?

[native cloak]

I don't think so

[fast gull]

sadly yes, otherwise they might see other weathers

you can check what configs need for everyone to have the mod because their description has a "Client siynchronize" text

[fast gull]

Im working in a rework of the whole menu UI among the utilities for the configuration wich will lead to even more settins you might be able to change

[native cloak]

Pog

[warm pine]

oh /: well. do you know any mods that do that? or can atleast have the posibility of dustclouds, or allow for all weathers on any moon thats possibly host only?

[fast gull]

Im sorry to inform you that there is no way to do that

Let me explain

when weathers are choosen, the only information the client has is the seed (aka a random number) wich determines the weathers

they don't get the weathers themselves

[warm pine]

oh

[fast gull]

out of curiosity, what is the issue about having the other users install the mod?

[warm pine]

its not just your mod, my friend uses his dads computer, his dad is strict and doesnt want him installing stuff on his pc

[fast gull]

I see

Im sorry to hear that

Does your friend use a mod manager or install the mods manually?

[warm pine]

oh no, he just literally cant download anything on his dads computer, not even the mod manager or mods.

[fast gull]

I would ask how did he download the game lol

but in really that sucks, most of the mods require all players to have them installed otherwise errors may occur

[warm pine]

his dad owns the steam account. so his dad bought the game

[fast gull]

That makes sense

Well you both can still play with any of those configurations that don not have the "Client synchronize" tag, wich may still be a different experience in some ways

[warm pine]

yep! i love this mod. specifically the quota settings, its great since me and my friend want to get lots of money and high quotas but its only the two of us

[fast gull]

Thank you!, love to see you enjoy the mod

[native cloak]

You should try setting enemy spawns to 10x, now that's fun trying to survive

[manic cairn]

Can we modify the spawn chance to be static value instead of multiplying the value? so we can spawn an entity that normally can't spawn in some moons e.g. Jester in experimentation

[rose sable]

Hi, if i use this mod with Company Enchancer will it lead to any error?

[fast gull]

@rose sable I never heard of that mod what does it do?
Most of the times the mod will be compatible and will just override or add the values from the settings

[ruby flicker]

i used a different version this mod will overrite the door power and assuming everything else

[ruby flicker]

i gave in and now click update all button again and downgrade my version i don't want updated

[fast gull]

didn't understand that quite well

[ruby flicker]

so are default max enemys vanilla?

[native cloak]

Actually @fast gull would this be possible? I wouldn't personally use it but might be cool to have an all enemy spawns setting. You could even deep dive into this and make some more settings like what enemies can spawn on what moon or something

I wouldn't put it at the top of your TODO list but some people might actually like this

[native cloak]

He updated all of his mods then had to downgrade the ones he didn't want updated

[fast gull]

Oh thanks cause I didn't see that message lol

[fast gull]

After updating the core for the mod I will work on that dont worry

I think it should be easy

so you can expect that feature to come (it might take some time tho)

[fast gull]

yea don't worry, im cooking an update that will make obsolete all other mods that let you configure the game

[native cloak]

Huge

[native cloak]

Would this actually override modded enemy map spawns too?

Like you can force said enemy to spawn in Experimentation and prevent them from spawning on Vow for example

[fast gull]

Im yet not working on that but I think thats possible

[fast gull]

yea, I shoule be able to do so

I won't make a promise as this is like 3 times more complex that the actual mod

but I will work for it

[native cloak]

Even if the mod has it's own config to customize spawns?

[fast gull]

that depends on how the mod implements their enemy

but as it is right now

nothing will break, something may be overriden by the mod and somewont

thats everything that should happen at worst

[native cloak]

Interesting

I would personally not use an enemy spawn option anyways but an allow all enemy spawns setting could be cool

Kind of like the allow all weather on all moons setting

[fast gull]

The problem comes with how to implement that

I can just add a button to "allow all enemies on all moons"

or "allow X enemy on all moons"

or "allow X enemy on Y moon"

however the amount of configs will be huge and may overwhelm people

so I need to rework how to implement that

[native cloak]

I would say to start off simple and just do "Allow all enemies on all moons" and in the future you can add addition settings for all of that

But if you're worried about people getting overwhelmed, the config save feature would most likely help with that

[fast gull]

Don't worry

the rework is already work in progress

let me show you how to the menu will look like (mostly)

[native cloak]

I'm not worried, you are very good at this

[fast gull]

thank you

I could be faster if my friends did know how to code lol

but it's okay I really enjoy developing this

[ruby flicker]

wait a rework is happening

[native cloak]

If only I knew anything about coding lol

[native cloak]

Just the config layout

[native cloak]

All of the settings will still work the same

[fast gull]

Not really

I mean yes

all the settings will remain

but there will be a lot more features that will allow me to create more different settings

[native cloak]

Oooooo

I like it

[ruby flicker]

would be cool if an ingame one could be made for stuff cuz i know scrap value and amount can be changed mid game and i assume turret and landmines too

[native cloak]

Like sliders?

[fast gull]

that would break a lot of stuff sadly

As most of the things need you to enter the game again

I somehow made things that can be changed mid game it was a headache but to make it work while inside the game, will make other developers dont want to use the api due to the dificulty of modifications

[fast gull]

hmm, there are sliders already, or you mean other things

[native cloak]

OH RIGHT. I completely forgot about the weather sliders

[fast gull]

lmao

but I hope to be able to add Ranges and Curves

Ranges for sure, I saw people do it for other games so might be easy

[native cloak]

That's probably what I was thinking of

[fast gull]

but curves, dam I dont even know how to save to disk

[rose sable]

sorry for the late response, the mod just makes u not lose scrap and make ur door power infinite

[fast gull]

Well, depends on how the other mod works but nothing will just break, maybe the only issue you find is LCV overriding their settings

although you should not lose scrap anyway and the door can also be configured from LCV so everything should be okay :)

[rose sable]

ok then, ty 🙂

[fast gull]

you're welcome!

Feel free to ask and suggest anything you need!

[rose sable]

o yeah i have another question

does the variants safe automatically

[fast gull]

Yes

The only time the values do not save is if the value you set is not valid

[rose sable]

oooo

ok then thanks again

[fast gull]

no problem!

[fast gull]

@here I wanted to tell everyone that as I may forget suggestions, I created an excel to have better comunication with the users on what is being done in the mod
Google docs
You should be able to comment on any cell if you want to suggest something :)

[native cloak]

This is a good idea

[fast gull]

Do you guys have access to the file?

[native cloak]

yes

[fast gull]

Perfect then!

[native cloak]

@fast gull no outside enemies spawned until 10PM?

I may have just got very unlucky

False alarm, I just got insanely unlucky

[native cloak]

Time to see what Titan spawns are like

It's pretty bad

I went up the stairs and 3 mimics walked through the main entrance

[fast gull]

I think that was actually lucky lol

[native cloak]

Actually that's true

@fast gull wanna join for some crazy enemy spawn runs?

[fast gull]

Kinda busy working rn sadly

[native cloak]

oof

[ruby flicker]

i got en idea! how about facility size changers

[native cloak]

I think there is a mod for that, idk if it's compatible with LCV or not though

[fast gull]

I kinda remember a mod thst did that but messed up scrap prices

however dont worry I will add it to the todo list

[native cloak]

Make sure to add a disclaimer that it will lag your game more

[fast gull]

wait

facility size lags the game?

hmm, I guess it makes sense tho

[native cloak]

Ya, Idk if it's the size that lags it or the amount of enemies, scrap, mines, and turrets

But with the right mods, you could probably fix lag

[fast gull]

Hmm

I understand the lag while generating the dungeon

but other kinds of lag...

Maybe due to how the IA should check more terrain but I never had issues with dungeon size other than not finding any scrap

[native cloak]

No I mean fps lag, not lag spikes when generating

[fast gull]

A little spoiler about the new interface, wya think?

[fast gull]

Then it might be the IA pathfinding

[native cloak]

Ya, that's what I'm thinking

[native cloak]

Also this looks sick

[fast gull]

Myabe those IA fix mods would help with that tho

[fast gull]

Thanks!, its like 70% done so it wont take that much

[fast gull]

Okay all the interface is finally done, I would appreciate some feedback if you like how it displays everything or if I should change anything

[native cloak]

I like it

[warm pine]

does this work with advanced company? (i want the new items, but not so much the config stuff in it)

[ruby flicker]

AC really needs to be split into multiple different mods items the portable terminal and the other stuff

it all together just doesn't work for my modpack

[fast gull]

For what I tested is as any other mod, it just overrides the settings

Although Ive only tested single player

[fast gull]

yep I though the same lol

[ruby flicker]

AC is cool but i wished it worked for reserved slots aswell

[fast gull]

AC aims to replace lots of mods, however I dont think is a good idea since its development will be slower

One of those mods is LCV wich I wont let since it does not have all the options and im not planning into stopping development

[noble jetty]

Heya! I was finally happy to have found a mod that replaced that ton of microfragmented minimods (yes, there's still the other side of the coin) - yet, I found that LCV somehow broke the delicate balance of my ~160 mods 😛

am I still entitled to submit a compatibility issue, despite the massive amount of mods? 😄

My r2modman profile shareable code is 018dcb85-9db9-8b07-0c47-8a839f853f7c

So far: it breaks BetterItemScan/BetterTotalScrap/Corporate_restructure/More_suits, the terminal, and doesn't save/correctly return in orbit when completing a contract

...for instance 😛

I still have to check the logs - most logging is currently suppressed by a couple of other mods, but apart from the above, the mod seems to work correctly.

My suspicion is that there's some conflict with a shared DLL used by several mods and it causes a chain of failed initializations. Removing LCV all works fine (I know, it's hard to believe 😛 )

I can't debug it at the moment, but I was glad you left some contact info to at least attempt to have a look at a few issues or get some feedback. Gotta leave home in a min - I'm going to be available for testing/fixing later in the day ^^

[noble jetty]

I did check, Disabling LCV alone doesn't solve the issue. Only after disabling ConfigurableCompany everything gets back to a functional state.

I shaved off a few extra superfluous mods, and the profile code for trying to reproduce the issue is now 018dcba5-342e-b7ac-4908-244abbed3c97

[fast gull]

of course you can!

however I would appreciate if you have any idea or logd about what could be causing the issue

[fast gull]

I can also help with the configurable company issue, can you tell me when did you notice the issue, what was the behavior that made you see the issue?

Im working rn but as soon as I finish I will be able to look at the issue

[warm pine]

from what ive seen this still can change weather settings! that make happy. im making a modpack for that one friend because hes considering getting mods

[fast gull]

In glas to hear that!

you can always suggest new festures by asking

[fast gull]

@noble jetty I wasn't able to replicate the issue, do you mind providing me with more information?

The only issue I was able to replicate was the scanning error and Still happens even with the ConfigurableCompany and LCV mods disabled

[native cloak]

Could also be the special profile issue like in my case

[fast gull]

Could be indeed

However that profile seems messed up with due respect, it broke my settings because some mod just broke the LCSaveGeneral

[native cloak]

Oh

[noble jetty]

Can't deny it's been through quite some iterations, there are plenty of leftovers in the cfg ^^

[fast gull]

Happens to the best of us

Anyhow as I mentioned, seems like the issue is not really related to the mod (I wasn't able to replicate the issue and worked the same with our without the mod)

[noble jetty]

Heya! ^^
as I mentioned it seem to break BetterItemScan/BetterTotalScrap/Corporate_restructure/More_suits, the terminal, and doesn't save/correctly return in orbit when completing a contract

as per pictures, they all seemed to stop working

[fast gull]

this is your current profile 018dcba5-342e-b7ac-4908-244abbed3c97 right?

Do you mind reimporting your own profile code? (nothing should change, just clear cache and some fixes to a r2modman issue)

[noble jetty]

yes, I had removed what I believe were mods with feature overlapping

[fast gull]

Did that fix the issue or does it still persist?

[noble jetty]

I did it right yesterday but yeah, one of my fellow players had totally unexplainable issues until he recreated the whole profile.

I'm going to give it a try 🙂

[fast gull]

Yea, sometimes, when there are lots of mods r2modman keeps enabled a mod even if you disable it

[noble jetty]

besides, as per potential feature requests, I hope that list could be of inspiration about tiny weeny mods that could probably be absorbed by your mod ^^

[noble jetty]

I only have LCV disabled on that profile - do you mean, even the cached ones? 😮

[fast gull]

All suggestions are welcome as sometimes I dont get my eyes on what could benefit users

[fast gull]

Its hard to know wich ones are not working as the issue is because r2modman renames the dlls when you disable the mod to stop them from loading but sometimes the renaming fails and thats when the mod remains enabled even if it shows disabled in r2modman, so I would just suggest to reimport the profile as it will fix that

[noble jetty]

e.g. I believe a Post-processing section could be useful - there is a quite specialized mod, but for instance I never found something that disabled the depth of field (which on Unity's HDRP pipeline is no joke). Or let me fine tune the volumetric fog intensity (some people may love some extra fog. I personally find it to make the game unplayable especially indoors. Tweaking the density would be cool)

[fast gull]

Never heard about adding options that didnt affect the gameplay directly

seems like a cool feature but I might need to learn to modify unity's graphics settings

[noble jetty]

yup, I tried it a bit myself but I burnt out with Astroneer and BG3+DOS2 and I just could not find the mindset to keep modding games, especially when having to relearn bepinex/harmony a bit, and LC in general, I need a break 😄

[fast gull]

yea having to transpile almost everythink sucks

I, as the madman I am, love transpiling and even created a library to inject my methods anywhere in the transpiling with any parameters

that is what makes LCV so fast to modify

[noble jetty]

simple tweaks I went after were the scrap amount (since I sometimes love to play in 2 players - the game's not balanced for that). Or making 2-handed scraps 1-handed (with less players it really becomes tedious). But as you saw I found a galaxy of tiny mods to do that. Each depending on their own library tho.

[fast gull]

yea...

about that im sorry that LCV depends on Configurable company

I made both mods but I though the in-game menu was to powerful to lock behind a mod to modify some features

[noble jetty]

Hahaha, I was surprised you didn't want to reuse Lethal Settings - and you went to code the whole UI from scratch - that's madness IMO, but it works, so kudos for that 😄

well, not madness, but surely took some work - and it paid off - it's pretty neat!

[fast gull]

Configurable company was released before that

wel

not released

but created

but I didn't release it until I finished creating LCV

lol

[fast gull]

and it's getting a whole rework

[noble jetty]

I see. I only discovered it yesterday. I needed fine-grain control over the scrap generation, so what you did was perfect to me 😉
And being able to tone down/up turret+mines? Loved it!

[fast gull]

glad to see you like the mod, I appreciate that

[noble jetty]

The "monster per hour" setting seems a bit too much tho. Even at 1 there are huge gameplay consequences. Any chance to alter the spawn period?
Or, do values below 1 do the same?

[fast gull]

Hmm I didn't understand that

That really was a feature that I think only @native cloak uses to be honest lol

[noble jetty]

(it's not called "monster per hour", I remember it's the very first setting IIRC)

[noble jetty]

yup, Min outside enemy spawns. 0 is vanilla. 1 is... 1 per hour, which is a bit overkill IMO

[fast gull]

yea, that feature is very useful if you set the enemy spawn multiplier to 0

[warm pine]

new feature: change dropship time to land and leave? so you can make it come down early, but leave at the same time as normal maybe

[fast gull]

as you can make a fixed spawn rate every hour

[noble jetty]

I have a mod for that - would be cool to have it absorbed tho 😛

[warm pine]

fasterdropship?

[noble jetty]

IIRC yes

[fast gull]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b-4zDakbTEjvyTS-qmPLkjE4tKIJpX6CDYSbLuKvM0Q/edit?usp=sharing for now these are the planned features

[warm pine]

that mod is so stressful to me, gotta make a full on sprint after a purchase, idk if you can change the leave time

[noble jetty]

Yup, what I meant is, instead of having to play with decimals, maybe make the period of time configurable? 1 for 1 hour, 2 for every 2 hours, etc.

[fast gull]

The one time I used the mod my friend teleported me back to the ship and we lost all the loot lol

[fast gull]

Oh that config does not allow decimals, is a fixed value

[noble jetty]

having an extra "per player" modifier would make sense, in general, not just for enemies.

[fast gull]

but to be able to modify the time between spawns would be cool

however I was actually thinking to make the value a range

so you can set it to spawn from 0 to 3 for example

[noble jetty]

Oh. it let me input decimals so I assumed other integer-only fields did not work as well 😛

[warm pine]

having a way to add scrap items to the shop/store items to the loot pool could be cool.

[fast gull]

that might be because I forgot lol

[fast gull]

to modify the shop items themselves is not a feature I was planning

but the loot pool of planets is something that I want to do with the new API im building

[noble jetty]

I see that tweaking the area/size multiplier of the moons has already been asked, so I'm just putting my +1 to that 😄

LC uses DunGen from the asset store, so being able to mess with the generation params would be cool.

[fast gull]

What params would be useful to modify

most of the things are values set by the moon settings

[noble jetty]

things I can think of would be stuff like branching, verticality, max branch length and so on.

[fast gull]

Hmmmm

I (for now) dont think is possible to modify interior themselves

as they are not loaded until the game starts

I might be able to find a workaround but Im worried about compatibility

speaking of that, does you issue still persist?

[noble jetty]

maybe as multipliers but. maybe I'm starting to feature creep

[fast gull]

nah it's okay to suggest, I appreciate the feedback a lot

Just consider some things may be hard to implement or even impossible

even tho I may be able to implement anything, my time is somehow limited

[noble jetty]

It is, found at least 2 mods that affected the dungeon generator manager. Just, they were pretty basic. DunGen has way more params.

[noble jetty]

oh, I do know. I can only ask, then it's up to you and the requests you get to prioritize them 😄
Polls are great

[noble jetty]

not yet, I got chatty, apologies. I'm onto that rn

[fast gull]

Yea it is possible to modify them, but to allow the menu to auto-detect interiors and that stuff is another thing

[native cloak]

I do love my 10x enemy spawns

[fast gull]

I am able to modify it globally

[fast gull]

No worries

[fast gull]

Imma just make a config just for you that spawns every single possible enemy

[native cloak]

Lol

I had to disable Herobrine because he's now cracked at the game

Cool mod but was insanely unfair in 10x spawns even if his spawn was capped at 1

[noble jetty]

yup, there's a setting for that 😄

[native cloak]

Oh so you can add a delay to when it drops?

[noble jetty]

yup, up to you on how to tweak that. Notepad or even the mod manager are valid options.

[noble jetty]

After cleaning the cache - it works 😓
How is I never found this info anywhere? Make sure to put it in the FAQ/troubleshooting section ^^

[fast gull]

its hard to notice tbh

and I think there is so much people who does not use r2modman

I noticed the first code you sent has the issuge regardless of LCV, Configurable Company or cache, so was some mod that you removed in the second code that caused the issue?

[noble jetty]

Ideas/QoL changes:

• instead of throwing around stuff, you "use" a bin that saves a stack, and prevent killing the fps for everyone as time goes by
• Date/hour format, AM/PM or 24 h
• Kg or pounds
• instead of having to recap which moon are available and with which condition and price, have a separate display/canvas that shows the recap to everyone.
• the terminal only uses 1 row to list the available main section. The rest is a list of moons with a custom format that defaults to:
  #number in list | Moon name | weather/state | cost

Typing just the number you auto-accept travelling to that moon.

[noble jetty]

I can't remember honestly. I purged a lot of skins I wasn't using anyway, the LongerDays mod, and had others disabled. I"m going to diff the lists, one sec.

[fast gull]

some of these features I don't think are truly the essence of LCV to be honest

I want to kinda focus on configurating the game and maybe small gameplay tweaks

but for example the bin thing does not have much to do with the theme

[native cloak]

Oh nice

[noble jetty]

So it's more like, "fine tuning", is that correct?

[native cloak]

I could probably think of a few if you give me some time that aren't enemy related

[fast gull]

If you were to see this panel, what do you think each part is/does

[fast gull]

yea mostly

I mean small features are welcome, for example the hide weather is more of a new feature than a modification of the game

[noble jetty]

Ok. Here are some quick ones:

Player related:

speed
max health
accel/decel
jump height
stamina regen
impact of weight on jump height
impact of weight on stamina drain

[native cloak]

Do you think custom moon support will be possible when you add the additional moon settings like Moon cost and spawn tables?

[fast gull]

Im planning into making it work

There is a chance is as easy as custom enemies

but if not, I might need to also inject code or request a feature for any mod that adds custom levels

[native cloak]

That's what I was thinking

[noble jetty]

I suppose it's

• the description, followed by lots of padding space
• the value input field (even if, canonically it's inside a squared border. Maybe have a subtle one? More padding space
• Revert to default
• Delete (???)
• Disable tweak. I'd put it on the leftmost side

[native cloak]

Also I'm pretty sure most of this is actually already planned

[fast gull]

that's pretty accurate, the last buttons are

• Revert (get the saved value back)
• Reset (Set the value to the default)
• Toggle (like you said, disable tweak)

love the idea to distinct the toggle button a bit

[noble jetty]

Then it's +1 on the votes 😄
Couldn't find any jump height mod. And it can make a difference. Don't need a double jump as in many mods.

[native cloak]

There are a few but I don't remember what they are called

[fast gull]

You can see what are the suggestions here if you want

[noble jetty]

Oh. Honestly I'd have misinsterpreted the first 2 icons, ngl

[fast gull]

Yea, I requested a bunch of icon types to try to differenciate the buttons but I don't find any that fits the option

[noble jetty]

X in particular. I'd have expected X to have the rollback icon. And "Load" to be something else.

[fast gull]

I though of a trash can instead of an X

but also found that hard to understand

[native cloak]

Either or make sense

[noble jetty]

IMO revert to default should be using the first icon you used (the circular one)
The first icon (discard) could be a folder with an arrow/load one?

[native cloak]

What if you could customize the buttons icon image yourself? That would take extra time to code but would be kind of funny.

[noble jetty]

we're getting meta 😄
Customize the customizer 😄

[native cloak]

😆

[fast gull]

then I make it so you can just modify the whole interface

move everything wherevr you want and change it

I mean

its kinda possible though code

[native cloak]

Lol, a fully customizable interface would also be kind of funny

[fast gull]

I made so you can import your own preset

but it would need coding or the assets themselves

[noble jetty]

I was kidding - please focus the effort elsewhere, seems like a pain in the b 😛

[fast gull]

yea Im joking

also the icons are a pain to add

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

I had to create in specific sizes and mask them for them to not look pixelared or weird

[native cloak]

Adding onto the joke, what if you could draw your own icon from within the menu

Now that would be funny

[fast gull]

lol

that gave me an idea

man I was about to search "when is april fools"

dumb me

[native cloak]

💀

Happens to the best of us

[fast gull]

Speaking of the menu

And to give a glance on the progress of the rework

Tomorrow Im adding the real-time synchronization and the simple configuration types, wich means that at least 80% is already finished

[native cloak]

Huge

Actually

That gave me another idea

You should add an option to change your menu back to the old one as a preset incase anyone likes the feel of the old menu more but have it auto default to the new one.

[fast gull]

I though of that

Sadly this new menu adds options that the old one can't handle

one of the main focus is to lower the amount of time it takes to read/write values in the files

and to add support for bepinex configs

[native cloak]

Most people don't read alot

[fast gull]

sadly the other menu, while well constructed, lacks half the features

[native cloak]

So that's fair lol

[noble jetty]

So, I wanted a "biased/unbiased" pov and asked ChatGPT 😛

[fast gull]

i meant the operations with files not the tooltip itself

also the new menu should be compatible with the challenge moon

although Imma lock it as i dont see it fair

[fast gull]

lmao those are literally the icons lol

[noble jetty]

that's what it said. I'm unsure about the arrrow with a line?

[native cloak]

Would it count your scores towards the leaderboards?

[fast gull]

something like this I think

[noble jetty]

yup, I asked what it thought their use was.
so as I suspected, the circular arrow felt more like "revert to default" than the X

[fast gull]

yea, I dont really like the idea of people just using the mod to break the leaderboard

[fast gull]

I might change that

[native cloak]

I mean, either or mean basically the same thing so either one works

[fast gull]

I think the best idea is to add a help button to show what everything does

[native cloak]

Oh, that kind of sucks

[noble jetty]

That... actually feells more like "back to how it started". Just, don't use the power off icon as the last one if you use that 😄

[fast gull]

lmao

[native cloak]

I mean 10x spawns is already harder than any other challenge moon so I guess that's fine

[fast gull]

I had an idea the other day

and is to create my own weekly challenge by randomizing the LCV settings

although there wont be leaderboards as that needs the steam services I think

[native cloak]

I was about to say that

[native cloak]

People could post there scores in here I guess

[noble jetty]

at the end of each line - a dim circle with a dim question mark that shows a on-hover tooltip on the meaning of icons. And maybe extra info on the actual tweak.

[fast gull]

That could be funny

[noble jetty]

I'm scared by you playing with 10x enemy spawn like it was vanilla 😂

[native cloak]

It is kind of normal for me at this point

[fast gull]

he's the one (and maybe the only one) that suggested the spawns per hour and starting enemies

just to make it harder lol

[native cloak]

I'm thinking of upping the number higher because the game seems easy again

25x spawns?

[noble jetty]

and then there's me, complaining 1 enemy per hour was too much 😛

[native cloak]

Since I now have like every lag fix mod to exist

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

Ancient legends say the true monster was Cooljs, at the time he arrives to any moon, monsters run in fear trying to escape his shovel

[native cloak]

Lol

[noble jetty]

I mean, my games end up at day 22 or 30 generally. 10x spawns sounds like "single shot plays" to me.

[fast gull]

I think my highest was 47 with my friends

[noble jetty]

lol. Are we talking about the default shovel, default damage, and invulnerable enemies, right?

[native cloak]

I don't even run in with a shovel most the time anyways, On titan I will bring a shovel and stun up to the door just in case I need it later but I don't bring them inside with me

I focus more on dodging everything's janky hitbox

Also Coilhead and Rolling Giant (set to InverseCoilhead) leads for some intense back of forward looking

[fast gull]

Have you tried playing with the diversity's darkness?

I think that could make your game even harder

as no flash = you dont get to play

[noble jetty]

ahum. Despite being a D&D DM irl, and an exploiter as a gamer, I tried not to spoil LC to me too much.

Like, I didn't go/read anything around the web about the patterns or cheese strats. And as a dev, I'm trying to believe they're complex and scary 😛

[fast gull]

do you enable brackens too?

[native cloak]

Send me that one and I'll check it out

[native cloak]

Ya

There are always about 5 of them at once

[fast gull]

Stay fresh to the game, dont look up people playing or is just going to spoil the game

[native cloak]

Most the time only 1 Coilhead though

[fast gull]

I sadly spoiled the game by developing as I know almost every detail on the game

however I still find fun to play with mods as I don't see anything related to them, I let my friends choose them and don't look up descriptions or anything

[fast gull]

that's weird, coild heads have a cap of 5

[native cloak]

Almost every detail. You don't know how I manage to meet quotas.

[noble jetty]

you need to play the Factory X moon. Literally a factory of coilheads
(unreasonably heavy on my PC for some reason?)

[fast gull]

there are some things that aren't meant to be known lol

[noble jetty]

it's surely got some override to monster spawn caps, I'm telling you XD

[fast gull]

but really, I went really far developing in the game as I had chrismas holyday

[native cloak]

I think I can also set spawns to do the same thing with LCV

[fast gull]

yea, he's the reason individual enemy caps exist lol

[native cloak]

True