Lethal Level Loader [Custom Content Loading API]

[zenith flax]

more specific info on it would help if available

[umbral oracle]

There are no logs that I can find, but for example, on Ooblterra/OneShot moons, if content configuration is enabled; their custom scrap, nor any custom entities added to the spawning roster spawn at all

As in they straight up disappear; only vanilla scrap and entities spawn

[zenith flax]

ah i see now

technically this is a problem with lethallib

kind of

an incompatability

[umbral oracle]

Are there any solutions atm?

[zenith flax]

@tired solar any chance i could bug you about a tiny little lethallib change

[tired solar]

sure

[zenith flax]

I'd probably have to look into it a little more to confirm but as of LLL 1.2.0 I have like dynamic item and enemy rarity that injects into every moon and such on route change

so I think I need the lethalllib function that applies it's info about scrap to levels to run after that thing runs

ohhhh

theres two issues here

maybe

ok i will have to get back to you

fuck

[umbral oracle]

The end is near

[tired solar]

oke

[mellow flame]

cant get lethal level loader into my project
tried getting the latest version

I also added lethalLib

error is still there

[zenith flax]

show plugins folder

[mellow flame]

wait 1 second I think i made a mistake

I didnt add lethal lib actually, but now that I did I got another error

and the old one is still there

[zenith flax]

you need the MHOOK folder

[tired solar]

or you can disable validation of references or whatever it was for the dll

[mellow flame]

huh

[warm widget]

Is it me or does it say V0.0.1

[mellow flame]

Check development general

[warm widget]

Oh lmao

My bad

[brisk schooner]

Batby did an oopsie

[warm widget]

I saw, I thought it was a downgrade for some reason lol

[mellow flame]

If you have time later could you explain how to do that? Thank you

[zenith flax]

take it from your game plugins folder

put it in your tools plugins folder

[mellow flame]

Thank you

[tired solar]

It is just yet another dependency that's needed for the mod. So, dependencies of dependencies in this case

[mellow flame]

oh alr

[unique geode]

Yeah dw he's working on fixing it and uploading it with the proper version number lol

It happens

[mellow flame]

I dont se MHOOk folder

[unique geode]

MMHook files should autogenerate when using HookGenPatcher or AutoHookGenPatcher

[tired solar]

It's generated by (Auto)HookGenPatcher, in the BepInEx/plugins/MMHOOK folder

[unique geode]

it'll create a MMHook directory under plugins

[unique geode]

this c;

[mellow flame]

alr thx

[mellow flame]

im sorry I still cant find it 💀

[tired solar]

Can you show your plugins folder?

[mellow flame]

plugins for tools or plugins in game folder?

[tired solar]

also, you could probably just disable reference validation when selecting the LethalLib dll in unity and it'll be fine

[tired solar]

it's for the game

[mellow flame]

I did that still getting the error

[tired solar]

maybe you can't do that then? lol

[mellow flame]

wait nvm

its gone

thx

[tired solar]

oh nice, np

[mellow flame]

do I still need to do the mmkhook thing?

[tired solar]

actually though, if you want to run BepInEx mods inside the unity project, then you'd need the MMHOOK_Assembly-CSharp.dll file there

[mellow flame]

oh is that why my dungeon doesent generate in the unity editor with LLL in the project?

[tired solar]

oh, maybe

[mellow flame]

this is my game plugins folder

#1193461151636398080 message

I also sent it here

[tired solar]

I dunno why this is, but I'll check

[mellow flame]

alr thx cuz its very annoying to have to remove LLL to generate the dungeon in unity, and re add back to generate the asset bundles

[tired solar]

seems like an mistake in the null check, this should also be inside the null check but it isn't

[zenith flax]

ah fuck

heard

[tired solar]

nullable could have caught it hehe 🙏

[tired solar]

Well, it would have, if configured properly

[mellow flame]

so this isnt something I can fix on my end?

[tired solar]

nope, you'll need to wait for it to be fixed

[mellow flame]

alr thx for the help

[tired solar]

Wait huh, did I read this correct?

[zenith flax]

what has you concerned

[tired solar]

I'm confused as to how the error would come from that LevelManager.LogDayHistory call directly

[zenith flax]

is it not on the line before?

[tired solar]

since it's a static method in a class it's calling

[zenith flax]

ohh

my logger maybe?

[tired solar]

uhh, I don't remember anymore what it really was even

[brisk schooner]

Big Nullability coming in to shake down the little guy

[slim wind]

trickle-down null references

[tired solar]

on the topic of nullability, for such a seemingly uncertain value, there sure is brave dereferencing happening 🤭

[zenith flax]

Yeah it’s still in my head dw

That one in particular in general is a pain in the ass though i hate weather

[tired solar]

I see, ye

[slim wind]

fog size changing? 👀

[tired solar]

mayhaps

[slim wind]

i was truly ahead of my time

[zenith flax]

oh yeah i added that and forgot to mention it

i think its what people wanted right

[tired solar]

"Foostep", hehe. I'd recommend using a spell checker btw to avoid too many typos, though it doesn't really matter that much for non-public stuff (like in this instance). That's at least what I started doing a while ago

[shy flax]

I am sure this is more to do with the moons than LLL, but is this something I should worry about?

[tall kindle]

Nah just story logs

[tall kindle]

@zenith flax was flying around on assurance i think

[zenith flax]

shit

heard

[umbral oracle]

@zenith flax When the speed of time is changed on a Tier 3 moon, day 2 is skipped and immediately goes to day 1

[zenith flax]

tiers do not exist, please elaborate

[umbral oracle]

It's weird

When the speed of time on a moon is changed to be below 1.0, day 2 is skipped and immediately goes to day 1

[zenith flax]

yeah that's a vanilla bug

[umbral oracle]

Are there plans to patch it or is vanilla stuff untouched?

[zenith flax]

its been on the thinking list for awhile

[umbral oracle]

Col

[zenith flax]

ill try to look at it sooner than later

[umbral oracle]

Rad(mech)

[sour spindle]

hello its me TimeOfDay guy

thats probably some jank related to how time until deadline is actually calculated by the second

and then converted to days

its just that normally the numbers line up

[vernal grove]

not sure if this is an lll thing but im having some interior desyncs with grandarmory where we have the same interior typew but the generation is completely different for everyone, cayusing floatuing fire exits and stuff

[crisp galleon]

The best I can recommend is making sure everyone has the same mod list, config settings, and their mods are all updated.

[vernal grove]

i did

they made a new profile and installed myt modpack so idk what happened

[crisp galleon]

Odd. Then I don’t know

[unique geode]

@zenith flax We couldn't land on Gorgonzola for a 2nd time

[rapid nymph]

This is the section causing the error
it looks like there's an invalid material somewhere in the level
Excerpt from LethalLevelLoader/Loaders/LevelLoader.cs

[unique geode]

@zenith flax this issue seems to happen whenever a custom interior tries to load

Just thought you should know

[fleet python]

I'm trying to play a custom map, and when I want to buy something in the store I get this error and the items don't reach the planet.
I'm playing v56.
What could be the problem?

[steady ingot]

You need companycruiserfix on moons that didnt patch their stuff up to v56

[iron igloo]

So latest LLL is bugged rn

?

[warm widget]

Im guessing so

[iron igloo]

Kk

[unique geode]

Yes, revert it to 1.3.1

[warm widget]

I was having issue in multiplayer where some moons wouldn't load

[iron igloo]

The last version worked perfectly fine for me so ima just roll back

[unique geode]

It's not an issue with moons

It's when a custom interior tries to load

[warm widget]

Ah, some interiors did work tho for us

I guess it's weird

[unique geode]

@sullen coral confirmed that because she repeatedly went to Gorgonzola without SCP Interior set on it and it was fine

But it broke for us

[warm widget]

I see

[iron igloo]

Maybe older interiors

Are borky

Someone also mentioned that removing Scoopy fixed their stuck on seed issue

[unique geode]

Can tell you 100%

that's not true

[jolly cargo]

How different is 1.3.1 from 1.2.4? I don’t have errors in the code but players are getting bugs like no enemies spawning. I’m still setting ExtendedLevel.SelectableLevel.Enemies

[iron igloo]

SCP and Scoopy are older

[unique geode]

We tried to land on Eve and it broke when we were trying to load a Oneshotinterior

Which

I really didn't like the OneShot Interiors tbh

But it was nice to try them

[iron igloo]

I like the retro minecraft vibe of em

[jolly cargo]

Hmm h, I’ll have to do a pass through on all interiors with my mod again to see which are bugged

[warm widget]

I'll admit they're confusing sometimes, but I do like the blue one with the mines, that one was nice

N Maybe the purple bookshelf one a bit

But I might have a bias opinion cuz I do love the original game lmao

[tall kindle]

Couldn't tell from the pfp

Or the banner

[warm widget]

Dunno what you're talking about

[tall kindle]

Idk either ig

[unique geode]

Anyways it's this that's preventing landing the ship with some interiors

Which not too sure why this check was even added

[umbral oracle]

I kill you? Okk!!

[warm widget]

Pffft

[pine olive]

so it's just interior loading that's the issue with this version?

[unique geode]

They just weren't our thing

Too easy to get lost in, the exit doors don't stand out really

[zenith flax]

change Setectable to Selectable

[mellow flame]

my inteior is loading fine

[unique geode]

Yeah it seems like not all are affected by it

[unique geode]

The interior we had trouble with in my log was the SCP Interior, interestingly enough the first time we landed it did load fine but apparently clients couldn't see scrap values when scanning scrap inside, then the error came from the 2nd time we tried to land and got stuck on random seed

Where as the OneShot Interior just never let us land even once

[zenith flax]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-allen-white-gif-26248822

[rapid nymph]

you're welcome :D

[zenith flax]

genuinely tho

i just be smuffering a little

bad assumption on my part that no material could be null and they all had names

[kindred herald]

is modifying ExtendedLevel.SelectableLevel.PlanetName safe or will it break stuff?

[unique geode]

At least we were able to revert to 1.3.1 for today to fix the problem til you were able to update LLL lol

[zenith flax]

Usecase?

[kindred herald]

want to conditionally display like a tag in moon catalogue. % OFF or SALE or sth

[zenith flax]

oh uhh

dont do it that way

gimmie a min

@kindred herald ok I have honestly forgotten if anyone has actually used this (maybe mrov) but TerminalManager.onBeforePreviewInfoTextAdded is a event that will be called that gives you the level, an enum correlating to what is expected to be shown and returns a string that will be used

so eg. you can listen to that event and return (extendedLevel.SelectableLevel.PlanetName + " (" + percentOff.ToString() + "%)") or something similar

and it will use your value instead

[kindred herald]

when is it called tho

[zenith flax]

if that doesn't work the way you want come annoy me and also can postfix patch TerminalManager.GetExtendedLevelPreviewInfo

its called when you load the moons keyword and is run per moon

LLL does some absolutely insane stuff to the list of moons so it's all data driven

[kindred herald]

ok good. thanks

[zenith flax]

@kindred herald the two main functions for ref

https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/f1b4cfd3d7ca95c9c4ae619c2c30393d53281e8b/LethalLevelLoader/Patches/TerminalManager.cs#L327
https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/f1b4cfd3d7ca95c9c4ae619c2c30393d53281e8b/LethalLevelLoader/Patches/TerminalManager.cs#L351

oh i forgot you don't want the planet name in your return string

just the data next to it

[zenith flax]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/

LethalLevelLoader v1.3.5

• Added safety checks to new FootstepSurface Material cache system.
• Added safety checks to new ExtendedLevel override fog size feature.
• Changed ContentRestoring of EnemyType's to use ScriptableObject name rather than enemyName
• Fixed issue where synced audio clip that plays when previewing enemy bestiary file was not playing for custom enemies
• Fixed issue where custom Enemy bestiary files did not have Info as a default keyword

[rapid nymph]

nice

[zenith flax]

its before my coffee has hit so ngl i did not test those safety checks but

the logic should be logicing

[rapid nymph]

logic logics :3

[rapid nymph]

@unique geode that should fix the errors from earlier

[zenith flax]

oh shit i forgot

storyl ogs might be fixed?

[unique geode]

@soft eagle This should make you happy ^^

[soft eagle]

oooh, awesome, gonna test it now

[umbral oracle]

Ping me whenever that time speed change day bug is fixed tee-hee

[unique geode]

That might never get fixed, pretty sure it's a vanilla issue that can't be solved on LLL's side

[jolly cargo]

It says selectable h

[jolly cargo]

You mean for batby to fix it in LLL?

I just count the time passed and round it back to a full day at the end

That’s what I did for my time stuff in CC and it fixed it, hasn’t noticed it break in a few months now

[umbral oracle]

BUTTERY STANCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKES

@strange rock

[zenith flax]

Don’t reply on my behalf 👍

[strange rock]

huh

[unique geode]

Oh I wasn't trying to lol, I've just known it's been an issue for so long I thought it was Vanilla

[zenith flax]

It is

[unique geode]

My bad if it came off that way

[jolly cargo]

Vanilla bugs can be fixed

[strange rock]

sorry im out of the loop what am i supposed to be responding to

[chrome notch]

dont worry about it

[strange rock]

lol, okay

[umbral oracle]

Asking you to fix the mf uhh

So there's a bug where if the round time is increased, going into orbit will immediately send you to day 1 rather than day 2

And I was asking you to tackle it..,

[strange rock]

oh

that makes sense

it's not exactly a bug

the time system is rather complex under the hood because earlier versions of the game would allow you to leave planets early to save time in the day

and every planet had their own day/night cycles

it was simplified a lot to the current "landing always takes 1 full day, and every planet is always available at 8 am"

system

but there's probably hangovers from that if you try to mess with the round timer

all of the vanilla moons use a consistent timescale and there's not a good way to "fix" this that wouldnt cause some sort of mod conflict with something expecting time to work like it does in vanilla

it is probably more in the scope of lethallevelloader to "fix" if it's creating issues with custom content, or a separate patch to be released and used at the user's discretion based on their needs

probably not gonna be a one-size-fits-all solution

[chrome notch]

i think it would be better suited to just being fixed in LLL, since the main reason it appears is either people changing the time multiplier in the LLL config, or custom planets changing the time multiplier themselves

[strange rock]

yea

it is going to require taking some creative liberties to solve

and it's probably better that the content API itself account for it in a way that's "standardized"

than some backwater mod to be fixing it and creating inconsistent behavior for mods that aren't designed with it in mind

[soft eagle]

There are no more errors and logs get registered properly, but now they always have an empty name (although if you know the keyword noun they are readable from the terminal)

[zenith flax]

elaborate on empty name

[iron igloo]

Soooo TLDR is LLL going to have another update soon or are we gonna wait for the interiors to update to the new LLL?

Cuz if what lunxara was saying is correct the latter would leave a good few in the dust

Okay nvm I just scrolled higher

[soft eagle]

In the terminal they don't show up, but you can still read them if you know the keyword noun. Also when they're picked up instead of their full name the game shows "New log collected: "

[zenith flax]

am i dumb or has no one asked me about vanilla's water shader before

[sullen coral]

I know people have asked about it before

Asked you? That I don't know

[zenith flax]

can i see one of your extendedstorylogs in editor?

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/

LethalLevelLoader v1.3.6

• Added content restoration support for basegame water shader

[vernal grove]

not sure if this is a LLL issue but uhh this happened and all enterances were locked

[zenith flax]

would need a log

[zenith flax]

is this a consistent problem

[vernal grove]

nope

[zenith flax]

dunno then

async loggers ate the source

[tall kindle]

You specifically? No, it was something with nomnom's patcher that we hoped he could get, but instead had to replace with another water shader

[zenith flax]

well its solved now

[forest turtle]

are the min/max dungeon size multipliers still broken on the latest LLL?

haven't seem to have gotten them working

[iron igloo]

is Min/Max scrap value still an unused value?

[merry marsh]

That's an unused thing from vanilla. It won't do anything till Zeekers makes it do something

[atomic acorn]

is there a list of all the tags moons use somewhere?

[iron igloo]

no bc its arbitrary

a moon mod author can just add a tag to the moon for other stuff to hook onto

i believe (?) one of the newest features of CentralConfig is to show the most common tags? i dont know, i dont mess with tags because they leave too much in the unknown for me as far as what i would be touching

[tall kindle]

there are a list of tags that are premade

for vanilla

first pin

@atomic acorn

[atomic acorn]

damn only place i didnt look, thanks

[tall kindle]

@zenith flax yo

it exploded once again

assurance, just jumped out the ship, lol

[zenith flax]

fuck are yall doing

ok

[tall kindle]

well

i can show u what im doing if it helps

i doubt it will

[zenith flax]

@tall kindle this related to your stuff in anyway

not blaming

trying to understand the interaction

[tall kindle]

what specific patch are ya doing

[zenith flax]

How early do your meteors spawn

[tall kindle]

they spawn like 5 seconds after level load

[zenith flax]

gonna kms ahhh

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-jaryos-culd-gonzo-tpab-gif-10166480568644963827

[tall kindle]

this is what sometimes causes the error

[zenith flax]

Will be fixed but tomorrow

[tall kindle]

well

i havent tested vanilla

this is just what i was doing

[zenith flax]

Wait what is the issue in that gif

[iron igloo]

Slap a little LogNeuter onnit, it’ll be aight 💪

[tall kindle]

nothing, it's just what i was doing when the error happened, the error didnt do anything damaging from what i can see

but i assume the error just shouldnt happen to begin with lol

[zenith flax]

yeah ok cool

I blame you probably

for giving me things to do

[tall kindle]

that burnout gonna feel hot as hell

[zenith flax]

my code isn’t safe for materials that might be destroyed after i build my info

booo

[tall kindle]

aye i dun destroy anything

these are the only player patches i do relating to footsteps and shit

the second one wasnt running cuz i wasnt on a hoverboard though

[iron igloo]

Which mod adds a hoverboard?

[tall kindle]

mine

[zenith flax]

should be fine ish

it’s my problem

[tall kindle]

always is /j

[iron igloo]

i totally overlooked that somehow damn

[tall kindle]

lol

[iron igloo]

is it dangerous

[zenith flax]

i try and cache Collider, Renderer esque info on levelload-ish to help for performance

[tall kindle]

oh lol, i do something similar with player colliders

this was my solution to disabling any collisions with enemies when player is inside the ship and door is closed, which is also why i needed an event for opening and closing door

[zenith flax]

Wait why do you do that

[tall kindle]

have u seen my giant?

i havent figured out how to make it not path near ship using vanilla search routines

i tried figuring out how to bake something like a radius around the ship mask

but i never got that patch working

[zenith flax]

Oh just your enemies then?

[tall kindle]

yeah just the giant ofc

[zenith flax]

ah

[tall kindle]

i dont like touching other mods

[zenith flax]

Had me worried about teleporting in mimics

[tall kindle]

[tall kindle]

oh i figured out how to reproduce it

stepping on this moving collider causes the logs to get spammed and the player to be unable to move

u have to step on it from the top

[soft eagle]

Of course! lmk if there's anything more you need for troubleshooting this

[zenith flax]

Oh.

Ok that’s my bad

[tall kindle]

do you need to add a triggerinteraction ignore?

[zenith flax]

I’m not considering materials in samplescenerelay

[tall kindle]

oh, i would've never guessed lol, since that is a collider i added to an enemy

oh i just got it

since enemies spawn in samplescene

[young acorn]

is there any way to check what ai nodes are what number, for mold starting position?

[young acorn]

also is there any way to force mold to spawn for testing?

[tall kindle]

Is there a way to stop LLL from loading a lethalbundle?
I just have my stuff setup so that it's split into a bunch of bundles that aren't loaded depending on configs so they don't take up space and ram

[rough edge]

Just rename bundle and load it yourself

[tall kindle]

Figured it would be smthn like that, just gotta figure out what I have to run the bundle through lol

[zenith flax]

Have them in different bundles?

[tall kindle]

If you're asking what I mean, I have like an assetbundle for each feature I add into my mod, I.e. each weapon, enemy, etc, incase people wanna turn it off since it's bloated.
I wasn't sure if u had a way to manually load my stuff using your functions

[vocal flame]

Is this error know already?

[Error  : Unity Log] ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].FindEntry (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0008)
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].TryGetValue (TKey key, TValue& value) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0000)
LethalLevelLoader.LevelLoader.TryGetFootstepSurface (UnityEngine.Collider collider, FootstepSurface& footstepSurface) (at ./Loaders/LevelLoader.cs:193)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.PlayerControllerBGetCurrentMaterialStandingOn_Postfix (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB __instance) (at ./General/Patches.cs:736)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::GetCurrentMaterialStandingOn>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::PlayFootstepSound>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::PlayFootstepLocal>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
PlayerAnimationEvents.PlayFootstepLocal () (at <0b5b829887344817a21214132ea92eef>:IL_0000)

[tall kindle]

yes

[hollow rivet]

Does anyone know why when we go to some moons we just get stuck infinite loading

I think it’s lethal level loader because this has only happened recently

And it just updated

It was working before

[worldly lagoon]

i know the problem

its called a skill issue

(jk)

[iron igloo]

This has been reported by a few people but I don’t think it’s an issue with LLL but rather a mod that now has a compatibility issue with the new update

It doesn’t happen for me

[hollow rivet]

We were able to go to like 3 moons and then randomly it would get stuck when we were landing

It was working fine before

[iron igloo]

Some moons? So it’s not consistent every time? If not, is it the same moons that always have the issue?

[hollow rivet]

I think it’s all moons

[iron igloo]

hmm

I landed at Penumbra from RosiesMoons like 30 times last night when I was testing another mod

never got stuck

[hollow rivet]

It was working in previous versions of the modpack but we updated all and one of the updates was lethal level loader

[grim nexus]

Do you use any custom interiors

[hollow rivet]

Yeah

A lot

[iron igloo]

MoreInteriors mod?

[grim nexus]

If its happening on any/all moons, one of those interiors could be the culprit

[hollow rivet]

No

[iron igloo]

With the bunker

[hollow rivet]

It was fine 4 updates ago and I never added any new interiors

I just updated all

I mean

I added lethal elements

Which adds a new weather

But I don’t know if that’s it

[grim nexus]

Yes but old interiors that have not updated could be falling behind. That doesn’t mean LLL is primarily at fault for this.

[worldly lagoon]

if we go 4 updates ago then check what needs to be updated we might be able to figure it out

[grim nexus]

Lethal elements worked fine for me last night

[hollow rivet]

It’s like 40 updates

[grim nexus]

Wew

[hollow rivet]

I can try to get the error code

[worldly lagoon]

itll narrow down the interiors

at least a little bit

[hollow rivet]

Did lethal level loader have an update that other interiors need to update for?

Recently

[tall kindle]

not exactly but the game updates occasionally, mods gotta keep up with that

[hollow rivet]

Yeah all the mods were working a couple days ago

But we updated all and added 2 mods, and now it’s breaking

[tall kindle]

yeah... you you claimed u updated a lot

could be anything

[iron igloo]

Did u make a backup?

Of the profile

[hollow rivet]

?

[worldly lagoon]

its a modpack on ts

[iron igloo]

Export profile as file

[hollow rivet]

It needs advance company to work

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/lethal_coder/Lethal_Enhanced_Party_Edition/

[iron igloo]

O

[hollow rivet]

The installation is on the page

[worldly lagoon]

so unnecessary

[hollow rivet]

No it actually helps fix a ton of things replace a ton of other mods and helps configure everything

If we did not have it, 50 more mods would have to be added on

Anyway I’m not here to talk about AC

[mellow flame]

I realized I had to most fun when I had the least issues, and the fix to for that was just to use less mods

[hollow rivet]

Yeah the thing is it was working perfectly fine 4 days ago

And we were having fun still

[iron igloo]

Well that modpack has borked mods at first glance, The Fiend

Just rollback LLL

[hollow rivet]

?

What about the fiend

I can remove it

[iron igloo]

He uses the deprecated Killplayer function

[hollow rivet]

Is that the thing breaking it though?

[iron igloo]

I’m just sayin the modpack has outdated mods it could be a lot of things

[hollow rivet]

No it does not

[worldly lagoon]

it prob does

[hollow rivet]

I updated all 2 times yesterday

[iron igloo]

Personally if I wanted to keep using that modpack I’d just roll back to when it was working and hang onto it until v56 gets taken off steam lol

[worldly lagoon]

the fiend prob hasnt had an update

[iron igloo]

it hasn’t

[hollow rivet]

I can try to get the logs

[hollow rivet]

No because as the owner of the modpack I have to publish updates for it

[worldly lagoon]

v60 comes out in like a week its fine

[iron igloo]

O

I don’t even know man there’s too many variables. But batby ain’t gonna help if you’re using AC

i think

[acoustic sonnet]

He wont

[iron igloo]

Now I wanna know if everyone else having this issue is using that modpack or AC

[hollow rivet]

It’s not ac

[worldly lagoon]

how do you know?

[iron igloo]

did u turn it off and play test?

[acoustic sonnet]

Reason I ditched it

[hollow rivet]

Because there has not been any new updates since v56

[grim nexus]

Politely, with that many mods, maybe the best move is to not hit update all so you don’t have to trouble shoot 40+ updates that you have to remember by memory. Just go a few at a time.

[mellow flame]

having 200 mods plus AC isnt the best idea

[worldly lagoon]

he made a mod where the modpack wont work if there is no ac

[acoustic sonnet]

Very much can be an lll ac conflict

[harsh bobcat]

I used to have the infinite load issue, forget what the issue was but I know for me the mod justlandalready fixed it.

[iron igloo]

When was this?

[hollow rivet]

Yeah but I don’t think it’s ac though

[acoustic sonnet]

Did you test without ac

[hollow rivet]

Yeah

Same thing happened

[mellow flame]

you might justt wanna do a reset

probably after v60

and take it slowly

[iron igloo]

Roll back n update 3-5 mods at a time 🫡

[harsh bobcat]

This was a long time ago, it was related to having more than 4 players and not LLL I believe.

[iron igloo]

Oh okay

[hollow rivet]

I know that’s what I said before

[mellow flame]

It could be hd lethal

hd leath

hd lethal bleh

[iron igloo]

the modpack has HDLethalCompany?

[mellow flame]

I dont know

[worldly lagoon]

and write down what you update

[harsh bobcat]

I do have HDlethal as well, but I was trying to help but suggesting Justlandalready might fix his issue if its a similar situation. That infinite load gets annoying, but have not had it happen since installing that.

[mellow flame]

yea but the problem is, is that there is usally a reason for infinite loading, and if you just forcefully land that will cause issues

[harsh bobcat]

True that might relate to the desync we can get at times lol

[hollow rivet]

No

[iron igloo]

I like the logo tho did you make it?

For your modpack

[hollow rivet]

Logo or splash screen

[iron igloo]

The Thunderstore icon

[worldly lagoon]

ai

[young acorn]

@zenith flax i'm pretty sure the water thing update for LLL completely messed up the custom water on my moon

broke custom water on solace from starlancer's moons too

[kindred herald]

ok nice. that works. I like the possibilities.
it replaces the entire preview string tho (excluding the planetname) so I rebuild that on my side.
are you aware the grouping count in your config is not applying in sort = none? edit: well it kind applies ig but some moons are still grouped with it set to 1 and no sort

[tall kindle]

@spiral siren @zenith flax on a scale of 1 to 10, is it a bad idea to set the dungeon root (where I assume the dungeon spawns) someplace really high up instead of below the moon?

[sullen coral]

I know at one point some custom interiors had the issue of teleporting you back into the ship if you went too high, but I believe that was because of the placement of the Moon's OutOfBoundsTrigger. Theoretically if you had fog or another obstacle blocking the way, and made sure it didn't intersect any gameplay triggers, it wouldn't have any major issues, but I'm curious on developer feedback for this

[slim wind]

that might be so cursed it's worth trying lmao

[tall kindle]

Yeah lol

[sullen coral]

Oh yeah... Weather is a thing that might be affected lmao

[tall kindle]

Is it?

Weather gets disabled for the player if you're inside, for the most part

[sullen coral]

I moreso mean when you're outside

Will rain collide with the dungeon?

Will it see that there's a roof above the player and prevent the rain? Or lightning?

[tall kindle]

No?

Lightning and rain doesn't come from the ceiling of the workd

World

It comes from like 100m up in the air or smthn

[spiral siren]

if that means the interior is visible from outside, then that won't work with CullFactory as it stands currently, and it will likely break some conditions that vanilla uses to determine whether a location is inside or outside

Batby had intended to make LLL enforce that assumption before, but currently you can do that and potentially break things

for CullFactory's case, you'll only see network-synced objects floating where they would be within the interior if it is spawned somewhere visible, as you would see if you used a free cam to view the interior from outside of it with portal occlusion culling enabled

[tall kindle]

The idea was def to put it out of sight

[spiral siren]

then CullFactory probably would be fine? not sure though

it checks whether something is in the interior using a bounds check, rather than a y position check

however, the vanilla map's night vision light that appears when viewing someone in the interior won't be visible if your interior is above -80

[tall kindle]

Ah, that sucks

[spiral siren]

if you search the decompilation for a constant -80f, you'll probably find a fair number of cases

although I think that there may be other places that use a different constant, so that's fun

I think Batby may have been the one to mention those

looks like ILSpy's constant search isn't very reliable for this though

[tall kindle]

Rip

We'll see what happens lol

20k meters up, left, right, down, as long as its out of sight

[spiral siren]

is there a good reason why you're trying to do it that way?

to have the sky visible?

[tall kindle]

Well, there isn't much ground or surroundings on one of the moon's me and a friend are planning

[spiral siren]

ah, so the concern is that the interior may be visible from the surface off a cliff or something like that?

[merry marsh]

Couldn't you just hide the interior behind something? Like a black 2d plane or something?

[tall kindle]

Yep

[tall kindle]

Ehh might not be enough

[merry marsh]

How so? If you made the interior low enough you should be able to hide it just fine. Just color match whatever the bottom of your cliff or whatever looks like (I said black because I thought of darkness at the bottom)

[tall kindle]

The game has a limit to how far down I can put the interior no?

[merry marsh]

You should have more than enough space to play with, unless the moon itself is extremely vertical (but in that case I'd just go higher rather than lower with the outside)

I know there's some give to where it can be placed

@weary apex How much can you raise or lower the interior on a moon?

[tall kindle]

That'd be nice to know yea

[merry marsh]

I mean just look at Maritopia, that moon is basically all "cliffs" and you land pretty high up it seems. The interior is completely hidden there

One thing I do know, is that there's a kill box somewhere under the moon (thanks Zeekers) but you might be able to move it

[spiral siren]

I don't think so

[merry marsh]

Just don't place it so low that it intersects with the Backrooms mod lol

[tall kindle]

Oh, I thought there was a limit where the player would tp back up

[spiral siren]

hmm, I suppose that's true

[merry marsh]

Zeeker's changed it to a killbox to prevent cheese

[spiral siren]

but wouldn't that be part of your level?

or is it in SampleSceneRelay?

[merry marsh]

That's what I'm thinking

[tall kindle]

Yeah thats kind of what I'm wondering

Testroom is in samplescene right?

[spiral siren]

if you have the rip you should be able to see it if you load into a level

[tall kindle]

If so, then its part of samplescene

[spiral siren]

hmm

[tall kindle]

I think... now I'm doubting myself

Lol

[spiral siren]

I mean, the test room I think has its own scene, but I'm not sure

[merry marsh]

I don't know jack and shit about the testroom🤷‍♂️

[tall kindle]

I'm about to check lol

[spiral siren]

UnityExplorer would give you the answer to that pretty quick

[tall kindle]

Mhm

[spiral siren]

it should show in the list of scenes

[tall kindle]

Test room is part of samplescene

[spiral siren]

uh oh

[tall kindle]

But I also never got tp'd back up

Tried falling off the edge

[spiral siren]

okay that's good

[tall kindle]

Now hear me out.... glass interior? @spiral siren

[spiral siren]

like Hadal?

[tall kindle]

Just the root

Roof

Goal is to look out into space

[spiral siren]

uh

why just the roof if it'll see space?

[tall kindle]

The goal is to see the actual sky box on the moon (assuming it's one of my moons that I'd give a skybox)

[spiral siren]

but you'll have issues if the interior resides in the same space as the exterior

[tall kindle]

So if its like left and right, I'd see the interior

Gotcha

[spiral siren]

the most visible issues will be with CullFactory, but the same vanilla stuff applies regardless of whether the interior is glass

[tall kindle]

Heh would work fine then, just gotta keep dragging it sown

Down

Btw is there anything I should keep in mind while making an interior with cullfactory in kind?

Mind*

[spiral siren]

CullFactory will also cause the lights of the exterior to be invisible when inside

[tall kindle]

That's probably fine

[spiral siren]

if you free cam with any old interior you can see what it does to one space when you're in the other

[tall kindle]

I recognise sticking tiles could have a problem if u try to look up and see another tile... my friend suggested culling everything on top of a glass pane except the skybox, is that a doable thing lmao?

[tall kindle]

Icic

[spiral siren]

anything that's visible in the exterior is not guaranteed to be visible while inside the interior though, since everything in CullFactory currently assumes that each area is distinct

[spiral siren]

do you mean stacking? and I'm not sure what you mean by culling everything on top of a glass pane

[tall kindle]

Yeah I meant stacking whoops, like them being on top of eachother due to going up and down, I'm not too sure either I'm currently exploring options with the other person, stuff like a render texture applied on the glass that has a camera pointed towards the sky far off or smthn

[spiral siren]

oh wait, you mean to simulate visibility of the exterior?

render texture would work, but I wouldn't really recommend it for performance reasons

[tall kindle]

To simulate looking out into the skybox from the interior through the glass roof of the interior.
Also is the problem with render textures is having multiple of render textures or multiple cameras?

I imagine I could do 1 camera but the same render texture ish

[spiral siren]

rendering the scene multiple times comes at a very big cost

[tall kindle]

Gotcha

[spiral siren]

also when you're making a render texture, you'll have to deal with perspective matrices to make it give the proper viewing angle

like this https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1202534076855357480

my thought is that the best option would be to put your interior somewhere far to the side of the exterior

I don't think there's anything that depends on the x/z position of the interior, but I may be wrong

[brisk schooner]

Its still a teleport if your client fails to die, btw

[vocal flame]

Got another one:

[tall kindle]

What level etc?

[iron igloo]

What’s this from

[brisk schooner]

Async logger mangles the log files, I'm sure modders appreciate that somebody is actually trying to help debug but it would be way more helpful if you didn't use that plugin while submitting logs

[iron igloo]

I have it disabled as host and enabled on clients

[tall kindle]

LevelLoader.BakeSceneColliderMaterialData(RoundManager.dungeonGenerator.gameObject.scene) it says that this line caused the null ref

[iron igloo]

It does remove a ton of junk too

[tall kindle]

[vocal flame]

I'm the client though 😅

[iron igloo]

And you don’t have asyncloggers enabled?

[vocal flame]

Btw... This error was thrown at the company building

[brisk schooner]

AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.Job:Execute() means async loggers is asyncing and therefor all logs are out of order and have their exceptions handled by it instead :<

[iron igloo]

Oh wait isn’t this a known issue with the mod that adds shit under the floor of the company ?

[vocal flame]

Under the floor?

What mod?

[iron igloo]

Yeah that trap door hidden ish area

[vocal flame]

There's a mod adding stuff down there? O_O

[iron igloo]

I’m spitballing from vague memory rn

[iron igloo]

Just like a couple objects and a log

[vocal flame]

That would be vanilla then 😅

[iron igloo]

So if I have it disabled as host and enabled on clients it will still affect my logs?

I don’t understand how possible

[brisk schooner]

Oh, for you, I dunno

[iron igloo]

Another log *

[iron igloo]

I got asyncloggers off and debug level log enabled letting my pc suffer

[unique geode]

@zenith flax Was getting these errors at The Company building

We sold scrap, bought items, the dropship landed and never took off

[vocal flame]

Yeee... I think Batby broke the company building again

[iron igloo]

brehhhhh

[warm widget]

Should we use an older version then?

[unique geode]

Would recommend trying 1.3.5 if that doesn't work

1.3.1

[unique geode]

@rapid nymph Just to confirm this wouldn't be caused by Loadstone right?

[iron igloo]

I will test ina bit if you can’t

[unique geode]

I need a break for the rest of the day

[iron igloo]

Fair, I need to have my ducks in a row for tonight

Will likely revert to my backup from 7/24

[unique geode]

We also got this a lot

[iron igloo]

He’s cooking up a fix for that one

[slim wind]

first time, eh?

PLEASE NOOO 😭😭😭😭

[vocal flame]

Better not break the weather on your way out 😒

[slim wind]

very funny and true

at least I'm pushing hotfixes 😳

[rapid nymph]

I don't believe so
the code that's erroring was added 2 days ago with 1.3.3

[unique geode]

Was just confirming cus TestAccount said it doesn't happen in solo

It's only erroring in Multi

Hopefully Batby can fix it

Company breaking isn't fun

UwU

[rapid nymph]

an object being checked has no collider

[unique geode]

I wonder what

lol

[rapid nymph]

Apparently whatever it is that you're standing on

[unique geode]

I'm still not too sure why the FootstepEvent stuff got added

[rapid nymph]

ok yeah no that code isn't gonna be Loadstone related
LLL is checking for a dungeon generator
but the company doesn't have one
sooo that happens
which also means that the level never finishes loading properly

[rapid nymph]

It's to help map creators set up and add new footstep surfaces I think
the implementation that the game currently uses is really hard to modify at runtime, so having an API for it makes sense, and what better place to have it than the API that all moon and dungeon creators already use anyways?

and by really hard to modify
I mean like
parts of the code are embedded in the Unity engine itself

you'd have to overwrite game files to make it work, and that'd be after we spent who knows how long decompiling it, identifying the piece of code to modify, and making a working version of it
it's just a lot quicker to make an API ourselves in C#

[iron igloo]

did you end up rolling back your LLL version?

[umbral oracle]

Which version of LLL works in multiplayer

Or is it still 1.3.1

[rapid nymph]

1.3.2 should work from what I've seen but I dunno

[unique geode]

There is no 1.3.2 lol

It went from 1.3.1 to 1.3.3

[rapid nymph]

Oh weird
The git mentions a 1.3.2

[karmic harbor]

so did 1.3.6 not fix the issue?

[rapid nymph]

1.3.3 broke a lot it seems

[unique geode]

1.3.6 fixed the issues with 1.3.4 but now The Company breaks

Which tbf

The Company breaking could have been a 1.3.4 issue that my group missed

Due to the other issues

[rapid nymph]

I think it was

[unique geode]

I do too

[karmic harbor]

So any work around then to it?

[unique geode]

I think we just missed it cus we couldn't land

No

Downgrade LLL to 1.3.1

That is your only fix.

Til Batby wakes up later to fix it

[manic belfry]

or maybe 1.2.4 ?

[unique geode]

Nah, I wouldn't recommend 1.2.4 anymore

[karmic harbor]

what the hell?! He's sleeping on the company's time? The Company needs its scrap! lol jk

[unique geode]

It's not properly updated for V56+ support

1.3.0 and 1.3.1 are, 1.3.3 added that new check that's been wreaking havoc

Which tbf isn't Batby's fault, it was probably added for a reason

[iron igloo]

do you know if 1.3.1 has issues with Tomb?

[unique geode]

It's just breaking stuff rn

[unique geode]

Idk I don't use Tomb.

[iron igloo]

i remember him saying something about fixing Tomb due to a conflict on his end

kk

[unique geode]

I stopped using it after it descyned the whole game

[manic belfry]

Why not?

[manic belfry]

but it's still working fine

[unique geode]

So? It's still not recommended to stay on it anymore

Moons and stuff have been updating for the newer builds

[manic belfry]

I didn't saw any moons directly using 1.3.0+ ?

[unique geode]

There's a couple that have updated since, so you may run into some problems that aren't noticeable on the surface

Interior mods have too

If you use Unreal Interiors and UT99 for example

they specifically ask you use 1.3.1 or newer

[manic belfry]

Ah yes for oneShot interiors

[unique geode]

OneShot's too yeah

[manic belfry]

But honestly there is a majority that is still on 1.2.4

[unique geode]

Not really

It's just a lot of people are taking a break rn waiting on V60

Cus V60 is right around the corner

[manic belfry]

Is there any game breaking bug on 1.2.4 when playing v56?

[manic belfry]

Yeah i can understand that

[unique geode]

Nah, I was using 1.2.4 until LLL updated, but I'd recommend 1.3.1 at the minimum now

[rapid nymph]

Yeah
Apparently v60 is already ready, but he's delaying it to add more features now

[unique geode]

I never saw him say that

[manic belfry]

On twitter

[unique geode]

He just said he was gonna let things chug along for another week

That doesn't really say he's adding more features

lol

I took that as he's waiting for another week to drop it

XD

[manic belfry]

he might still add new things

[unique geode]

Ah, that was probably posted later

Well ig we'll see

I rather not assume anything

[manic belfry]

mok thanks

[surreal perch]

He didn't say anything else other than the tweet you've already seen

[mellow flame]

Hello

[unique geode]

Yeah so it doesn't confirm he's adding anything else new then

I took it as he was just waiting

[surreal perch]

Same

[rapid nymph]

Fair
He didn't specify

[unique geode]

Yeah from what I was told is that on his Patreon he revealed he was doing mechanic changes for 3 of the existing enemies outside of the stuff he confirmed in the V55 changelog on Steam

So that, Vanilla Interior Tile Variety, and new scraps

[surreal perch]

I wonder what he changed

[rapid nymph]

m
I haven't kept up to date on any of the update stuff lol

[unique geode]

Well I'd imagine the Barber for one

He needed a ton of fixes

[surreal perch]

Hope they're smaller changes rather than big ones, most of the existing roster already feels pretty good imo

[unique geode]

Dunno about the others

[unique geode]

Yeah I would guess it's more so the buggy enemies

[surreal perch]

Fox and Barber would be the ones I'd change

[unique geode]

Like the Barber, the fox

Maybe the Manticoil

dunno

It's all speculation

[surreal perch]

Yeah

We'll find out next week

[unique geode]

Mhm

[young acorn]

what broke with the company building, and what version must be rolled back to to fix it?

[unique geode]

Well in TestAccount's case

he kept dcing when we went there

We finally landed there once without him as a test

Managed to sell scrap

But when we ordered stuff

the dropship landed, we opened it the open prompt never went away

and the dropship wouldn't leave

[young acorn]

i see

[unique geode]

This is the error we had

It was trying to generate a dungeon

[young acorn]

what version must be rolled back to?

[unique geode]

1.3.1

[young acorn]

have you tested it on 1.3.2-1.3.4?

[unique geode]

There's no 1.3.2

but 1.3.3+ would all have the issue

[unique geode]

Ah well under the actual downloads

I couldn't get 1.3.2

Only 1.3.1

[zenith flax]

@young acorn whats the name of the shader you use

[young acorn]

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/2d/textures-materials/water/simple-water-shader-hdrp-207454
i believe it might be the same one zeekerss uses? i found matching or atleast very similar textures in the files

[zenith flax]

My question was more literal

[young acorn]

ah, what name am i looking for?

[zenith flax]

The shader used, will be at the top of the material

[young acorn]

Shader Graphs/WaterShaderHDRP

[zenith flax]

https://tenor.com/view/carmy-berzatto-the-bear-gif-1706319364038184862

That is indeed identical to the name and/or shader Zeekerss uses

I can revert if necessary but is it possible I could kindly request a rename on ya’lls end?

[young acorn]

unsure what i should do to correctly rename it

[zenith flax]

Literally anything

I replace by comparing the name of the shader to the one used ingame

[karmic harbor]

Hey Batby is awake! When is the company gonna be fixed lol

[zenith flax]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/851238346184327209/1178858680792391790/taylor-swift-taylor-swift-amsterdam.gif?ex=6577acb3&is=656537b3&hm=68a23ac8529d761510801f58b331f452b1f1719028492af269327ba2310eb415&

[karmic harbor]

LMFAO

[tall kindle]

A name replacement this late into the process might be more reasonable on ur end tbh lol

Might be one of those things that u make sure are 100% opt in with a bit of a specific name too

Like VanillaWaterShaderHDRP or whatever it is

[zenith flax]

i might let the problem simmer for a day or two and see how many people it affects

if its easier for devs to swap then its that

if not its me

im fine with either

[karmic harbor]

Is that the issue involving the company?

or is that a different issue?

[iron igloo]

The man himself 😏

[tall kindle]

Different

[zenith flax]

No clue taylor

[karmic harbor]

damn

[tall kindle]

Lol

[zenith flax]

still gotta have my morning coffee

[iron igloo]

Make it a triple shot

[zenith flax]

you think thats not the default lol

🙂

[tall kindle]

And then checking ur pings, I asked a lot of weird dungeon root questions

[zenith flax]

yeee dw

the short answer is don't but ill wait before i can give you a proper solution

[tall kindle]

[iron igloo]

But for anyone wondering I have a pretty fat modpack and I updated every single mod in my pack and kept LLL at 1.3.1 and it’s working(tm) perfectly fine

In case anyone was hesitant to update mods that depend on LLL

[karmic harbor]

How fat? bet mines fatter

[zenith flax]

the secret 1.3.2 solves all the problemsss

[crisp galleon]

I don’t know how it all works behind the scenes, but is it possible to see if it has a certain material and go from there? Like, Vow’s water seems to be a material called VowWater. Is it possible to do whatever you’re trying to do only on objects with that material? Because I imagine if someone wants the vanilla water they’d just copy from a scene with it so that material should be present while custom ones will be something else.

[zenith flax]

its def a possible solution but it feels a lot more cleaner comparing shader name to material

i hear you tho

[iron igloo]

eh like 165 but I was mostly worried about moons and interiors that updated but everything seems to be in working order.

I just get a weird LLL error about Polarus ExtendedMod not being able to be registered twice when I launch but I landed there fine

Might be a BepInEx_Faster_Load_AssetBundles_Patcher quirk if the bundle is old? Idrk how that works once the moons update

[karmic harbor]

damn lol got me hella beat.

[iron igloo]

I also have the beta BepInEx_Faster_Load_AssetBundles_Patcher

[karmic harbor]

I get some errors too, but nothing bad either on mine. The most annoying bug i run into is the ship leaving message not going away or the occasion players not seeing each other.

[iron igloo]

Hmm I actually haven’t seen anybody report either of those in the last few days 🤣

Do you have to relaunch the game completely or can everyone just quit back to main menu and rejoin?

[karmic harbor]

they can quit and rejoin and it fixes.

[iron igloo]

That’s not too bad

[karmic harbor]

yeah. gets annoying some times when multiple people are having it. I usually just have the invisible player leave and rejoin.

the ship one is weird though I have to actually remake the lobby to get rid of it.

[iron igloo]

next time you play you should disable AsyncLoggers and upload the log to #help-and-troubleshooting right after they both happen cause I’m pretty sure I had the invisible player thing but I can’t remember what fixed it

[karmic harbor]

will do thanks

where do I disable the AsyncLoggers?

[tall kindle]

It's a mod

[karmic harbor]

Oh I don't have that one.

[zenith flax]

@calm eagle thoughts on this?>

[zenith flax]

but it does tho 😦

[rapid nymph]

huh

weird

[zenith flax]

yee

like i can change it but

it def has one

[rapid nymph]

my only thought is
maybe async dungeon is messing with it?

[zenith flax]

ill change it anyway

i like to get scene via reference like that on the off chance any future standard modding setups load additional scenes for some reason

[18:59:51.9093751] [Error  : Unity Log] ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].FindEntry (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_00008)
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].TryGetValue (TKey key, TValue& value) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_00000)
LethalLevelLoader.LevelLoader.TryGetFootstepSurface (UnityEngine.Collider collider, FootstepSurface& footstepSurface) (at ./Loaders/LevelLoader.cs:193)

dont get this

[tall kindle]

Hm?

[hollow rivet]

I got the error code

[zenith flax]

I don't understand what it's complaining about

[zenith flax]

@hollow rivet no thanks !

[hollow rivet]

?

[zenith flax]

I don't want to talk to you

[hollow rivet]

ok?

[tall kindle]

I got it before when I walked above the isTrigger box collider of my enemy (spawned like usual in the samplescene)

[hollow rivet]

I'm just reported a bug from before

chill

[zenith flax]

i am being chill

[tall kindle]

I can trt turning off the IsTrigger and seeing if that changes anything?

[zenith flax]

less about gameplay and more about c#

[tall kindle]

Ah gotcha

[hollow rivet]

I think I am getting the same error

[tall kindle]

Yeah I'm barely into dicts myself, but it sounds like the entry for that box collider isn't getting made

[zenith flax]

Hey so

to be clear im asking you to stop talking in here

please

[jagged juniper]

oh

[hollow rivet]

what for

[jagged juniper]

I was boutta say I got the same thing

[mellow flame]

which is great, we already have more than enough interiors, but no mods imrpove on the vanilla facility

[jagged juniper]

do you not want anyone to talk in here? or just jori

[zenith flax]

Your fine

Just them

[tall kindle]

Yeah it's kinda hard to modify vanilla tiles iirc

[jagged juniper]

want me to send the logs orrr no?

[zenith flax]

sure

[zenith flax]

it's not toooo bad

[mellow flame]

ye

I remember seeing a mod that did it, but idk if it was real or not

it never gained any traction, so assumed it was fake

[tall kindle]

it's hard enough

[zenith flax]

While I won't explicitly deny this being my fault, How many mods are you using?

[tall kindle]

Dunno, I saw a couple but never tested em

[zenith flax]

The vibe of this report seems like maybe another issue

[jagged juniper]

201 you might be right but im not seein any other pointers

[mellow flame]

200 mods plus ac is asking for issues

[zenith flax]

Oh do you have advanced company?

[mellow flame]

hes playing with the jori guy

[jagged juniper]

Ye

^^

what bsl said

[mellow flame]

I see it at the crew thingy

[zenith flax]

so please dont take any personal offense to what im saying but

that mod is garbage and the developer is one of the biggest bigots i've personally communicated with

I cannot reasonably troubleshoot errors used when using said mod

[jagged juniper]

oh yea u right but I like the items and networking ):

[zenith flax]

forsure, I don't dislike you for using it or anything but it's just not viable for me

[jagged juniper]

gotcha

[zenith flax]

there's a reason he is extremely banned from the thunderstore

[jagged juniper]

AC didn't throw an error tho ): also yea I heard why

[iron igloo]

🥔

[zenith flax]

AC didn't throw an error but it can do things to cause an error, plus due to how it aggressively fucks with other mods codes it's just too difficult to look at

[mellow flame]

lowkey, that emoji looks like a butt

[iron igloo]

Did y’all already revert to LLL 1.3.1?

[mellow flame]

kinda like the creator

[jagged juniper]

don't mind me askin but can ya give me an example?

see if I can try and fix it?

[zenith flax]

it won't be something you can fix

[jagged juniper]

also I tried it earlier without AC and got the same problem

[iron igloo]

It would be 1 thing if it was like 40 mods + AC but 200 mods + AC leaves soooo many possibilities

[iron igloo]

.

[mellow flame]

def, at this point, its better to reset the pack without AC, I remember that one guy said you need like 40 mods to replace all of AC's features which isnt true, and I also highly doubt that you guys are using all of its features

if you need to edit moons, just use central configs or Lethal Quantities

[jagged juniper]

I mean ur right

[zenith flax]

regardless, probably better channels for that

[iron igloo]

I will say there are cool features in AC with no viable replacement rn , I never used it but I checked it out

[jagged juniper]

ye

hey batby

[iron igloo]

DID YALL REVERT TO 1.3.1??

[jagged juniper]

no?

wat

[iron igloo]

bruh

[hollow rivet]

wait why

[jagged juniper]

is dat the issue

Jori

fuck off

[hollow rivet]

?

[zenith flax]

Thank you 😄

[brisk schooner]

If you don't wanna talk to him then its for the best

[zenith flax]

There's very little people that applies to

[sullen coral]

Batby and I butt heads sometimes but he likes me. I think.

[brisk schooner]

Batby and I are sworn enemies

⚔️

[jagged juniper]

whatpepe

[rich aurora]

Instead of a Duel of Fates, it's now a Duel of Mods

[worldly lagoon]

poor jori

[zenith flax]

Nah.

[jagged juniper]

exile the sympathizers

[worldly lagoon]

i know

i dont like him either

[jagged juniper]

Question: What did jori do to you batby? It's either really funny or really stupid

[worldly lagoon]

he likes potatoepet

[zenith flax]

Defended explicit bigotry and targetted harassment

[jagged juniper]

Is that the mortal sin

ah

I mean I love the mod......... Sadge....

[zenith flax]

I don't really have time for people to see the bright side in people who hate trans people and deny that Palestine is a valid country

among many, many other things

[jagged juniper]

oh

shit

really?

[zenith flax]

its literally like everything you can imagine bigotry defines theres examples of it

[jagged juniper]

damnnn

[zenith flax]

it's shockingly blatent

[jagged juniper]

there a way to ban jori from the thread

[zenith flax]

anyway LLL 1.3.7 is out

[jagged juniper]

legit just said that hes back

[brazen spire]

ooo whats the changelog :3

[zenith flax]

less errors ideally

[brazen spire]

based

[zenith flax]

company isn't complaining on my side so

[jagged juniper]

I love changeschlongs!111!!!

[zenith flax]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[iron igloo]

Will wait for 1.3.9

Do your worst everyone 🙏🙏

[iron igloo]

Yes

Well I mean

It’s what’s working for me

But he literally just dropped 1.3.7

Should try that

[brazen spire]

how long does thunderstore take to push the update to the app?

i refreshed my modlist but its not there

[tall kindle]

he's been removed from the thread already, just drop it lol

[zenith flax]

ye but thats not permanent lol

he immediently re-joined

ill just tell him to shooo if it happens again

[tall kindle]

LMAO

yeah

[mellow flame]

ok I lost a whole lot of respect for him

[crisp galleon]

It definitely takes time. I’ve never calculated averages but definitely can be a good couple minutes at least

[mellow flame]

also should I be updated Lethal Level loader in unity everytime there is an update?

I think im on 1.3.3

as of now

[chrome notch]

lately it's been taking over an hour sometimes

[acoustic sonnet]

yeah I hadnt HATED him before but that was what broke it

[tall kindle]

it'd probably be a good idea to

[iron igloo]

Being a mod developer and going defcon 5 against trans people is like lighting a match in a bathtub of gasoline 😂

[wet basin]

Question about this mod, i remember in the past that lethallevelloader(or a depdency it used) was causing a ton of various problems with mods, in particular i was suffering with it causing mobs to never spawn on any maps

i see that this mod has updated a bunch and a ton of mods have migrated to it, is it fixed now?

[zenith flax]

that hasn't been a problem in months

[wet basin]

yeah it had been months since ive played, so thats like definitely fixed now?
on a related topic, any like known conflicts anymore? im not running skinwalkers(using mirage instead) or lethalexpansion or anything

[mellow flame]

try sending your code

modpack code

[wet basin]

i dont have any issues at the moment so i dont need debugging, i just am very hesitant at the moment because i used to have tons of issues months ago

[mellow flame]

I suppose

[iron igloo]

Haven’t seen much feedback on BuyableShotguns and shells but it was causing issues. haven’t seen a lot of feedback on menstalker either. LC_API and TerminalApi seem to be giving ppl issues. But yeah if you have issues then #help-and-troubleshooting with your log and mod list

[wet basin]

regardless here is my code
0190f1cb-2252-8b4b-656f-1446ea7edb27

[mellow flame]

ok you show be fine

only 15 mods

[wet basin]

alright well i dont have a lot of mods installed so ill bite the bullet and download map mods again

[mellow flame]

just make sure to get company cruiser fix

[wet basin]

while im here, what custom moon mods do you guys really like?

[iron igloo]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1265387648210571397

Additional networking makes u incompatible with vanilla lobbies and players fyi

[mellow flame]

there are a lot of moons

now

compared to before

[wet basin]

thats fine with me because ive got mirage anyway

ill give your modpack a try

(plus mine)

[calm eagle]

I remember Autumnis mentioning that it was the same shader yea lol
Should be able to just rename them, but (and I'm not up-to-date on the specific use case here) would it be possible to just check if it already exists, and if so ignore it for that moon?

[zenith flax]

not sure what you mean by already exists

the issue is that i want it to already exist

since now devs can have a shader of that name and it become the basegame one

[calm eagle]

Ahh okay, which would overwrite our custom ones then?

[zenith flax]

yeee

so kinda just feeling the vibes on what yall would want the solution to be

[calm eagle]

I'd be fine with just renaming mine

[zenith flax]

i can change it to checking material name but i do think ideally shader name is a nicer check

[unique geode]

@zenith flax does 1.3.7 also fix The Company issue? 🥺