Lethal Level Loader [Custom Content Loading API]

[merry marsh]

I forgot I had it on there😂

I'm more worried I'm the one getting shot😅

[spice ingot]

it'd be really funny

anyways i'd share my code to get some feedback but im in bed

happy that im not looking at r2modman anymore for the night

[kindred bramble]

🤮

[unique geode]

Any reason why you use OrbitRecharge over the feature included in GI?

[spice ingot]

i fucking hate color

reds blues yellows who needs em

imma go add color cause i cant fall asleep

[merry marsh]

Because based on the description I don't think it recharges every single thing in the ship. Only things that were last dropped by a player

Like if I pick up and use 6 different walkies in one round, do they all recharge?

I just wanted to be sure every item in the ship was always fully charged at the start of the day😅

[unique geode]

Fair :3

[merry marsh]

I will also say, I only use getlootforkills as a way to get abandoned flashlights and walkies (from masked). I didn't like them in the scrap pool

[unique geode]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/freesnow/CollectYourDead/ GI already includes this btw

[merry marsh]

Is it properly working yet? It didn't work for the longest time, and I recently saw that it only collected the first person

If it works now I'd love to just use GI implementation

My group hasn't played as much lately so I haven't tested it in awhile

@unique geode if you got anymore questions and such just DM me, we should probably stop derailing the thread😅

[leaden citrus]

Mod not working https://clips.twitch.tv/SnappyFrozenMonitorNotLikeThis-2EKrceBGivRmFg7p

[abstract bobcat]

Nice tone

Known issue tho!

Friendly reminder modders are not your personal servants

[unique geode]

Tell him to use TerminalFormatter.

Let Batby take their time working on the 1.2.3 update they hit burn out so they're taking it slow

[leaden citrus]

Why not add TerminalFormatter (and maybe SmartItemSaving because the items keep getting changed sometimes) as a dependency until it is officially fixed? Because how is anyone supposed to know that if they are just installing mods through the Thunderstore mod manager.

[leaden citrus]

What? That's not me in the video.

[abstract bobcat]

I am aware

Does that change anything

[unique geode]

I know I know

I don't blame Batby for getting burnt out though, they were rapid firing out builds to provide V50 support

[leaden citrus]

Then why did you say nice tone?

[unique geode]

He was referring to Takey's tone.

[leaden citrus]

Ohhh

[leaden citrus]

I did

[unique geode]

Okay good ^^

[tame parrot]

Hello, may as awell ask in here, but anyone got an idea how to turn a Scrap into a Defensive Scrap? aka, Shovel-like? through LLL that is

[tall kindle]

You most likely need some bit of code

I'll try to figure it out soon but you can't do it without code afaik

[tame parrot]

i may have found something, will report back with my findings

[tall kindle]

Good luck

[tame parrot]

Partially got it working! The component for the Scrap object, make it a Shovel script instead of PhysicsObject. However only managed to half swing it. will continue testing

[zenith flax]

What an absolute freak haha

[tall kindle]

Yep that's where I got stuck

[tall kindle]

No! 😭 you gotta remember that probably 90% of people not directly in the community would NOT know anything about what's going on here and anything for a potential fix, all they're seeing is the big api mod that a lot of content mods have moved softlocking their game.
I get you're on your break, and my opinion on this doesn't matter too much, but a hotfix of some sort to this bug should've happened long ago

[zenith flax]

nah he sounds like a capital g gamer

the pepe's don't help

the issue is valid that guy just isnt

[tall kindle]

I'd love to meet on a halfway point here, some people are bound to have super bad reactions, (though this one seemed kinda in-between for me, I'm used to seeing much worse), but is there no way you could've updated for a hotfix?
I just want to know if its a matter of "big updates only" mindset or its purely the burn out talking

[zenith flax]

theres totally a way, i'd just have to spend time on it

everyone is free to take this how they want and i don't mean it negatively but i don't feel like i owe any work in any regard, and I say that in the sense that if i don't feel like working on LC stuff i just wont do it

my brain just goes in another direction

three biggest things i get from modding is making cool shit, having people play my stuff and making a living off it

i get the first doing any gamedev related thing, have the second regardless and dont have the third regardless

so

idk

[real nest]

most respectful gamer

[tall kindle]

Yeah there's no responsibility, it's just a matter of idk, having the big api that if there's a softlock that most mods depend on, it'd be better to have a fix rather than not

[golden wyvern]

Can I ask if this setting will make the time in the game longer?

[empty trail]

dont touch it, itll break quota stuff

Sorta ig

If you want a day on a planet to cost two quota days, you can go for it, but generally its better to leave it alone

[zenith flax]

Absolutely, I’m just not in a position where I can have to care about that

I want to be

[tall kindle]

I get what u mean, I was just put off from this response when it's a meh problem from both sides

[golden wyvern]

Eh, then I'll just have to find another mod that makes the game longer

[zenith flax]

nah I think if your a streamer not realising why a major mod might not be updating and then proceed to whine that’s freak behaviour but everyone allowed to feel a way about it

[empty trail]

Theres one out there iirc
Lets you stay past 12am or something
Not sure on the name though

[tall kindle]

I can understand that

[main tulip]

From a casual user's perspective, it's frustrating to be locked into one system and then have that system not work. they dont think about the modders behind it or how much work it takes, they just see the face value of the situation

[empty trail]

Yeah, I don't see many people really take in the actual developer when looking at those issues. Most times I see people complain without even reporting the issue

[zenith flax]

sure but the perception here is odd

Your not locked theres just nothing beyond the door lol

[golden wyvern]

Thank you. It should be LaterNights.

[hexed mesa]

a quick easy way right now is to just make the terminal mod a dependency until you fix it properly

you would only have to edit the manifest file and be done with it

[kindred herald]

what exactly do you mean by repeats?
Each moon gets its own loot table (more or less themed, including moon specific stuff) which makes 4/5 of the entire loot on average. The other 1/5 is inherited from the global preset containing all the mostly generic scrap items. So you happen to get the same items twice yeah. What's important to me is the average total loot value matching up to the moon cost and scaling with difficulty.

[unreal crest]

I meant the same item appearing multiple times yeah. Just a massive variety which is why I was curious

[muted wadi]

wahoo

[idle ravine]

Yeah I think throwing on the terminal formatter dep would be best to do right now, there's been pretty frequent bug reports to moon and interior modders about the company landing bug plus the swathes of unknowns just playing modded and stuff breaking for some reason and getting confused

[frozen spear]

Anyone know how to get modded moons to show up on the terminal? I am putting my bundles into this folder

%AppData%\r2modmanPlus-local\LethalCompany\profiles[Your Profile Here]\BepInEx\plugins

and I have my 2 bundles assigned properly (triple checked)

no compile errors

please DM me if you have an answer ^ I am so close to being able to test out custom moon designs!

[unique geode]

Yeah TerminalFormatter and SmartItemSaving both for the time being, and push it as a minor update

[bitter pond]

Well the items changing issue already got fixed in 1.2.2, so smartitemsaving isn't that vital anymore

[spiral siren]

I feel like given how many mods now depend on LethalLevelLoader, it would be good to have at least one active maintainer looking at things

it being open source means that Batby doesn't have to be the only one making fixes for it, but he is the only maintainer at the moment, which means that any fix goes through him and without anyone reviewing PRs and making releases, nothing will happen

so I would argue that it would be good to bring someone else onto the team

(not suggesting that it should be me, I don't know how much time I'd want to dedicate to that)

the fact that the out-of-the-box configuration has had what would normally be a release-blocking bug from a QA perspective is really just not acceptable imo

[spice ingot]

^ all this yeah, i agree with batsy they dont owe us anything and they deserve their break but at the very least can there be someone else added to maintain this considering its literally the most important api/dependency

[spiral siren]

I don't really see Takey's comments as a personal attack on Batby, but it is understandable outrage from my perspective

If I was trying to use modded content like he is, I would be frustrated as well

now, if Batby wants a PR to merge and make a release from, that would be awesome, but that's not the impression I'm getting from the discussion here

I don't want Batby to think I don't understand burnout, though, I've had that too. It's just important that a mod that so many other mods depend on is not breaking things for their users, because that is either going to

• Drive players away from the game, and modding starts to die out because nobody cares about it anymore
• Drive developers away from the API, and then modding becomes fragmented again just after we finally got one unified content API

[chrome notch]

i agree completely, i don't think a library that is so integral to this game's modding community should be managed by only one person because things like burnout and loss of interest are mostly unavoidable, if there was something like a team of small maintainers i think that would be much healthier for the scene as a whole

[spiral siren]

yeah, and if there were a team to fall back on I would definitely be willing to help out with it

[spice ingot]

i really hope batsy considers this and doesnt toss the idea way immediately

cause like this is an extremely important api and it being managed by one person definitely sets up for issues like this

[unique geode]

Some people still experience issues so SmartItemSaving is still needed

[unique geode]

I agree with you ^^

[zenith flax]

I’ve never not considered it

anyone has been more than free to express interest

LLLFixed was chill by me for months eg

[plush wing]

[idle ravine]

ig for the time being adding terminalformatter as a dep for the interior mods themselves can work

[unique geode]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer/ I mean TestAccount also made this mod, which also works

[idle ravine]

though doesn't work for the less maintained mods like scoopys

[plush wing]

Very fun, yes.

[spiral siren]

express interest in helping maintain the mod you mean? I didn't really see LLLFixed as a good solution at the time, if mainline can't be relied on to be stable then eventually people will jump ship

[young acorn]

should have collected scrap!

[spiral siren]

and to be clear, by maintain I mean very specifically that they would be part of a team that merges PRs and releases updates, not maintaining some fork to fix issues in the mainline version

I guess that there hadn't been PRs to fix this issue for a while from looking at the GitHub, but there are now two with different solutions that should be looked at and possibly merged

(never mind, the first one was 10 days ago...)

[zenith flax]

ye

like the kinda issue is

yeah its not great that im not currently working on this

but also like, we're not getting many new people in the community either

[spiral siren]

yeah

to be fair, I don't know if I've seen you mention the need for another maintainer

working primarily on it isn't really necessary, getting things to be stable generally isn't as much work as building the whole thing up from the ground in my experience

[hexed mesa]

The current bugs and issues are a result of you doing a massive code overhaul. Not much else you can expect

Once you get it stable, you would only have to do so little to keep it stable

What part do you think is incorrect?

[zenith flax]

this isnt wrong tho

primary bugs and issues just nature of new content and a odd LC quirk

not specifically the overhauls of preexisting features

[hexed mesa]

I must admit that I mostly disagree. However it is quite a biased opinion as I didn't edit the LC code as drastically as LLL requires, and despite me also doing deep internal changes to the LC code, it still isn't as deep as yours

However even I can't fully understand the LLL issues, I still stand by you adding the simple dependency fix to LLL for the time being

[manic tiger]

Hi, as mentioned here: #modding-general message
I/we were a bit looking for the whole list of tags available on planets, as we couldn't find it in the docs/wiki.

We made some assumptions, and also suggested a few new ones.

[zenith flax]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WO77KGJplIEC64qmBClOgfEEoFxrhMurCEqe9FKod8I/edit?usp=sharing

[manic tiger]

(I also wondered if LC development cycle has came to an end, so there's little reason for extra polish)

[manic tiger]

Yes, we found that doc, we weren't sure there were tags like:

All, paid, free, vanilla, custom, tier1, tier2 (Off,March,Adam), Tier3 (Dine,Rend,Titan), hidden

[zenith flax]

LLL directly uses that spreadsheet

its included in the dll 😄

[manic tiger]

to be used when defining weights for the interiors (without having to list each one by hand)

[manic tiger]

so, there's no All keyword/tag? For instance, to make an interior spawn on All:30 moons?

[zenith flax]

vanilla & custom would be all

[manic tiger]

May I suggest the:

Modded, tier1, tier2 (Off,March,Adam), Tier3 (Dine,Rend,Titan), hidden tags?

The tiers are mostly to group similar difficulty moons together, so that custom maps can get in the proper tier.
And that would also allow an "easy" (exp/ass/vow) map to be Paid, Tier1.

[zenith flax]

custom == modded

[manic tiger]

Hidden would be Artifice, Embrion

[manic tiger]

I see.

[zenith flax]

probably yes to hidden, probably no to tiers

[manic tiger]

Ok thanks. I just thought would have been nice to have some difficulty grouping. I mean, surely it isnt "top priority", but if it doesn't conflict with anything, why not 😛
E.g. in v50 Tier 2 got a new map: Adamance. Other custom maps could hook to the same group for clarity and better integration. Tier3 are all the endgame, TitanX level maps. Tier1, entry level ones. Mimicking the visual separation suggested by the terminal rn.

Some interiors are...definitely too complex for Tier1 maps, but would be ok for Tier2 and Tier3. Vanilla and paid do not cover this scenario or this aspect.

So Interiors weights, could be configured to spare Tier1 maps, have a little chance for Tier2, and maybe a smaller chance for Tier 3 - giving more space to more advanced interiors.
e.g.:

## Add this Dungeon to a Level's randomisaton pool based on matching Level Tags. (Minimum: 0, Maximum: 9999)
# Setting type: String
# Default value: Vanilla:100
Dungeon Injection Settings - Dynamic Level Tags List = Tier1:0, Tier2:100, Tier3:50, Hidden:0, Custom: 50

Also, custom moons can currently be "easy"(tier1) and "paid" (a tiny fee).
Or, could be hard (Tier3) and Free.
It would just be some way to group maps by "progress", without bothering the A/B/C/D/S/S+ enemy difficulty ranking

Just my 2 unrequested cents on it 🙂

[tall kindle]

does custom work for everything except enemies rn?

[zenith flax]

should work for enemies?

[tall kindle]

not through code atleast

wait, i'm putting it through planet name, would that be the problem?

[tame parrot]

havent managed to get shovels working yet, but poking around further. brute force testing with my Fish item

[tall kindle]

good luck good luck!

[plush wing]

[tame parrot]

i fear that "not able to route to the company moon" was my fault

well, if you were using my moons

[tall kindle]

nah

LLL bug

[zenith flax]

LC BUG

[empty trail]

xD
Wasnt it due since LC's route node to the company was completely different from the route nodes for moons or something?

If so I totally agree

I remember you saying something like that

[plush wing]

CompanyMoon be like

[tame plover]

what is this?

[empty trail]

Pull requests for LLL if I am right

[slim wind]

hell yeah

spike putting down the fire 🔥

[peak pond]

This mod seems to be breaking some terminal commands. Most important of all, it completely blocks us from routing to The Company Building. I can't type in comp or company, when I push enter, nothing happens. I've also noticed it blocking me from buying some store items.

I'm using the latest version of the mod and the game.

[slim wind]

use https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/TerminalFormatter/ or auto-routing mods (https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/La_chips/AutoCompanyBuilding/ or https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Dreamweave/CompanyBuildingEnhancements/) to fix that

[merry marsh]

Vanilla and Custom are tags, I wonder if that's why custom wasn't working😅

[tall kindle]

Works for items afaik

[merry marsh]

That's confusing 😂😂

[rain garnet]

i had a similar idea, imma propose it cuse why not :
Add a "Custom" option for sorting. It will list and group the moons as choosen in the config. It coult work like this :
Experimentation, Vow, Aquatis,, Orion, Titan,, Celest, March will result in

Experimentation
Vow
Aquatis

Orion
Titan

Celest
March
and then another section for the moons that haven't been mentionned (or maybe straight up hide them ?)
as for the normally hidden moons, they'll still be but in the case of a mod that make them shown, they will have their place

actually i'm wondering if its TerminalFormatter job im speaking about ¿

[manic tiger]

Well, I was proposing one way of tagging but yes, I guess I was also implying to somehow list the moons by tier - Tier1, Tier2, Tier3, (someone even suggested Tier4 for hardcore ones), hidden

If there's a [code-free, user-friendly] way to dynamically assign tags to each moon (via mod? Config?), and then sort/show moons by tag order, that would be even more flexible.
But, everyone could come up with their own grouping criteria, that's why I suggested what I think is close to the "design" logic behind the vanilla grouping ^^ (custom tags/grouping should still be possibe)

[unreal crest]

Batby said tiers would likely not be coming to tags

#1193461151636398080 message

[zenith flax]

The problem is valid, not a fan of the solution

I’ll think on it though

I am fairly confident I’ll be coming back to the project to some extent btw, I know the previous vibes may have pointed in the other direction

[zenith flax]

Every moon uses their displaymooninfo node ID to access the moon list via index

Except for company

Which uses -1

[empty trail]

Ah yeah

[zenith flax]

But yeah big tldr is struggling hard with cost of living makes it really hard to work on this project compared to other stuff due to what I need to get from these kind of things

Which procs burnout real bad

[empty trail]

Yeah thats fair, I understand

[zenith flax]

RE: MinScrap & MaxScrap

Completely valid problem and completely valid solution, But gonna hold off on that for the moment. It is a gameplay change and I'm a little hesitant to put that in an API

RE: Weather Desync

I gotta read up a little more but I don't think your correct on this one? AFAIK SeverRPC's can be called on the host client because they are both the server and the client. I am intentionally checking if the client is the host because I don't want each client to invoke said function

[zenith flax]

LethalLevelLoader 1.2.3 Experimental Build 1

https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/experimental/Thunderstore/plugins/LethalLevelLoader.dll

• Fixed issue regarding routing to Company
• Changed ExtendedDungeonFlow.dungeonEvents to ExtendedDungeonFlow.DungeonEvents (Sorry to PoolRooms which likely needs an update)
• Changed TerminalNode parameters used in TerminalManager functions to be ref values (Possibly breaks mrov related mods)
• Added Custom EnemyTypes to debug spawn menus
• Potentially fixed issue where Custom EnemyType Beastiary TerminalNode's had default values
• Potentially fixed issues running the mod in editor by changing GameObject flags to a DontDestroyOnLoad call (Thanks nomnom)
• Fixed issue with mods with matching author and mod names not receiving requested calls (May break custom enemy and item mods with custom code)
• Potentially resolved issue with additional scenes listed in ExtendedLevel's not loading correctly
• Potentially resolved issue with Route locking and hiding
• Implemented @deft dust's Better Item Saving pull request (Thanks for the help and sorry for the delay)
• Added onShipLand and onShipLeave to ExtendedLevel and ExtendedDungeonFlow events

testing would be kindly appreciated

as long as its less explodey than current ill probably chuck on thunderstore tomorrow or smth

I’ve probably gotten some misc issues people let me know about so id anything obvious is missing feel free to remind me

(Lethal Toolbox update will drop whenever this does)

[jagged arch]

yippie I am in there

[unique geode]

@zenith flax I'm live but me and @pine olive are on it

Beta Squad rules!!!

[zenith flax]

💖

I unfortunately don’t have time to do much testing on it myself rn

[unique geode]

Yeah you're all good, we'll let you know how it goes 🙂

[bitter pond]

Moon grouping is still broken btw

[zenith flax]

ah right

one of the things i forgot about

heard

[bitter pond]

and idk what happened there but I couldn't filter or sort anything and it just made the text get lowered
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/2cRSspQee-vYwk/d1337ELXl4l0?invite=cr-MSw3eVQsNDkyNjY5MSw

[unique geode]

@zenith flax So far Mrov's mods work ;o

[zenith flax]

oh nice

was 50:50 on that

[unique geode]

Soooo

item dropship won't land

No error

LOL

[zenith flax]

oh?

landed on experimentation for me

[unique geode]

It might be FastDropship that broke with it tbh also I do see a couple errors lol

🤔

[zenith flax]

who makes terminaldisplaysync

[unique geode]

Mrov

LOL

So is that broken?

[zenith flax]

@slim wind what are these logs 😭

[abstract bobcat]

probably annoying

lmao

since it displays the entire terminal screen like 3 times every time it changes

[zenith flax]

yeah the addcomponent ones will have to update slightly

unfortunately

[unique geode]

@tall kindle @hexed mesa

[zenith flax]

curious on this one, based on what im doing i wanna say this is because of another mod? i'd have to know more

i assume your not using lethal expansion or anything right

[unique geode]

No lol

[zenith flax]

just making sure

[empty trail]

once I get to it, ill try the scene stuff again

[unique geode]

This is the full area of that error

I think that's the dropship breaking probably cus of @vocal flame's mod

[zenith flax]

i assume thats breaking when your pulling the lever right

like loading into a scene

[abstract bobcat]

I just checked myself and it was landing for me

[unique geode]

Weird

Well we were at the company and for me it didn't land

🤔

Let me try making a new save, could be the save we had made before updating got screwed lol

[abstract bobcat]

naur

it's not landing at the company for me either

[unique geode]

Ahhhh

@zenith flax Looks like the Dropship is broken at the company building somehow

[zenith flax]

aight will look into

very confused on why that would be though

[unique geode]

Same

[abstract bobcat]

Not 1.2.3 issue

[unique geode]

Does it land if FastDropship is disabled?

[abstract bobcat]

idk but it worked with just 1.2.3 LLL

[unique geode]

Lemme

Remove Testaccount's mod

and try LGU's instead

It still won't land for me at The Company

I wonder

Maybe TerminalFormatter did get brokey but only at The Company

It just hit me that mrov did update MrovLib today

Inb4 Mrov broke it

MROV!!!!

lol

Testing with Mrov's stuff disabled

😂

@abstract bobcat it's not landing no matter what so

It has to be LLL 1.2.3

Idk what mod would be conflicting and breaking it

😦

It's definitely related to this error

Inb4 it's something dumb like LethalThings breaking with it

Wasn't that

I wonder if it's LGU

I'm gonna test disabling Landing Thrusters and if that doesn't work disabling LGU as a whole

@zenith flax Yep it was Landing Thrusters in LGU breaking it

Error is no longer happening

^^

@plush wing you need to fix this lol

[hexed mesa]

Why was I pinged?

[unique geode]

Cus you and Xu both need to update some things lol

Dropship still refuses to land for me

😦

[abstract bobcat]

.

[unique geode]

Disabling LGU completely now

I bet LGU needs to update...

[abstract bobcat]

its not LGU

I tried disabling it already

[unique geode]

Weird

Wtf is it?

[unique geode]

This error was cus of LGU though, it happens if you use Landing Thrusters

Ohhhhh wait

Maybe SnowyHolidayDropship?

Lemme try disabling that

[hexed mesa]

I never used addcomponent though?

Did i?

I'll check later

[unique geode]

@hexed mesa you did here

[zenith flax]

nah its the uh

callback system for bundles

oh no

that one is for dungeonevents

[unique geode]

Ahhhhh

[zenith flax]

forgive me

[hexed mesa]

Oh did you change the dungeon event stuff?

[zenith flax]

i uppercased the d 😭

[hexed mesa]

Death upon you

[zenith flax]

it was meant to happen in 1.2.0 but it sneaked past me

[hexed mesa]

Lel

[unique geode]

@abstract bobcat I genuinely believe the Dropship being broken has to be LLL I can't fix it no matter what I disable

It's either that or the dumbest mod that makes no fucking sense breaking it

But considering it only breaks with 1.2.3

🤔

Let me disable anything touching the DropShip lol

[spice ingot]

never overlook dumb mod that makes no sense breaking it

i got a mod in minecraft that turned everything fucking blue

and i tried desperately to find out what it was

[unique geode]

Well let me see if Flip's DropShip mod works

If it does then I think I know what's happening

So with FastDropShip and LGU's Drop Pod Thrusters

They check if the ship is landed first before allowing the dropship to land

So I wonder if there's a bug rn that prevents that detection from going off but I have to see

Yep confirmed it's that

@zenith flax

Seems LLL 1.2.3 has a bug that prevents the ship from being detected as actually landed at The Company building, that's why FastDropShip doesn't work and the DropShip never lands

Disabled it and tried Flip's mod which doesn't have that check

and it landed

@abstract bobcat

I figured it out

c;

I think Vanilla also doesn't execute that check btw

Why that's even happening idk

LGU contains the same fix though

Which is why Drop Pod Thrusters didn't work

[abstract bobcat]

ok except I have both FastDropship and LGU disabled and it's still not working

[unique geode]

Wait really?

For me using FasterItemDropship fixed it so maybe Vanilla does use that then

But this confirms it is a LLL 1.2.3 bug

How though

Idk

[abstract bobcat]

no it's definitely a mod breaking because of the 1.2.3 LLL

[unique geode]

Which mod though?

Nothing threw errors

It could just be that there's an inconsistency issue happening with The Company building right now

[abstract bobcat]

oops

[unique geode]

Yeah I think there's just something preventing that vanilla check from firing for the item dropship sometimes at The Company building

[abstract bobcat]

I forgor u need dependancies for a mod to work

[unique geode]

I'm sure @zenith flax is looking into it, in the meantime FasterItemDropShip works c;

[abstract bobcat]

It does actually look to be an LLL 1.2.3 thing

so

[unique geode]

Yeah

Batby will fix it

This is why we test for him ^^

[tall kindle]

I'd love some clarification on the "custom" tag for enemies, I remember putting custom in planetnames working for items but not enemies

[tall kindle]

@zenith flax

If the problem is just that I gotta put that tag name somewhere else for spawn weights then that's fine but I've been thinking it's broken this whole time lol

[solemn bison]

Is there a known onboarding process for switching from BetterItemSaving to LLL’s version? Like if I have BetterItemSaving installed and my save was already saved with it active, can I just disable it and LLL will pick up the saved data without any problems? Or will I need to disable it and then save it with LLL before adding any mods that add items

[zenith flax]

no clue

[solemn bison]

Sorry if that doesn’t make sense, my question kinda boils down to “does LLL’s implementation use BIS’s data”

As an aside regarding pull requests, this one needs to be closed as the issue it is addressing was already fixed according to the mentioned issue, by you on January 26th https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/pull/6

[unique geode]

@zenith flax Another bug, so when rebooting the game and reloading my save instead of still being on Junic the game put us on Experimentation

Log incase it helps

[tall kindle]

noted

Whoops didn't mean to actually ping on that onw

[unique geode]

Okay yeah @zenith flax the ship isn't being counted as landed at The Company

You can't even leave

[tall kindle]

Oh also did u fix the thing with the merging and having same author name?

[unique geode]

He did

@zenith flax If you get another 1.2.3 build out to test lmk, it seems like the 2 issues we ran into are pretty minor and you should hopefully be able to get them fixed

Well not being able to leave The Company isn't minor I guess but compared to how bad we've broken it before lmao

[solemn bison]

I’ve been having this bug to some extent for a while on 1.2.2 (unable to verify definitively if this is caused by LLL or not, but I think it only started up when it was installed), the game would sometimes lock up like this when leaving a planet and in orbit. I had to install the mod that forces the ship to go to orbit after a certain amount of time to get around the issue, there haven’t been any side effects from doing so that I’ve found

If you don’t know what the mod I’m talking about is I’ll grab the name from my pack in a bit, I don’t recall it atm

[zenith flax]

do i have a log of the company issue

[unique geode]

It never happened for me on 1.2.2

[unique geode]

Probably the Log I sent earlier

[solemn bison]

But I know it’s been running into that problem because I have the timeout set to like 20 seconds and it bumps up against that somewhat often

[unique geode]

This one

[solemn bison]

The issue I’m talking about is more general and happens when leaving moons in general, but only sometimes

Unfortunately I can’t conclusively say what’s causing it and there’s nothing printed to console that I can see that’d indicate that

[unique geode]

@zenith flax This one might also contain more info if you need it

[solemn bison]

@unique geode https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DaXcess/JustLandAlready/ This is the mod that I was talking about, it's explicitly saved my friend group's runs more than a few times already. The issue only started occuring after I had added LLL to my pack which is what led me to believe LLL is causing it to some extent

I have the RevivePlayersMaxWaitTime timeout set to 15 and the GenerateMapMaxWaitTime set to 60 (don't know if I've ever hit this) and I've had no adverse effects

[unique geode]

This mod is unrelated to the issue we had

[zenith flax]

company issue found

[unique geode]

We didn't have the issue of anyone taking too long to load

[unique geode]

Ayyyyy 😄

[zenith flax]

was trying to reference the dungeon

[unique geode]

Did you also figure out why it reset the moon back to Experimentation?

[solemn bison]

Ah I see, I think on reading what you sent again I got what you mean

Got mixed up sorry

[zenith flax]

i haven't stated i have

[unique geode]

True I hope you manage to fix that too

Honestly I'm glad the only 2 issues were that and The Company

I'm impressed

😄

@deft dust Your PR worked perfectly btw

c;

[deft dust]

LLL implentation doesnt use BIS data, if you're gonna make any modpack changes to an existing save you probably wanna just keep BIS around a little longer

[zenith flax]

wait till its about before that 😛

[unique geode]

Well we tested and no items got brokey lol

I had SIS disabled

[deft dust]

as soon as you save your file with the new LLL build you shouldn't need BIS anymore

[zenith flax]

the planet saving issue is likely due to the PR, looking now

(no diss ofc Slyvi)

[unique geode]

Ooh got it

Well at least items saved properly

[zenith flax]

"CurrentLevelName" now only saves to the file when the rest of the game saves to the file
what was the intent behind this change?

[deft dust]

well it was mainly just a side effect of me limiting when the Save function is called since everything gets saved to the file at the same time

[slim wind]

😳

oh

oopsie

[deft dust]

but i dont think theres a reason it should save more instantly than anything else in the game anyways

[deft dust]

it is my bad, in Patches.cs in StartOfRoundChangeLevel_Postfix i set it to RoundManager.currentLevel.PlanetName instead of RoundManager.currentLevel.name

[unique geode]

OOh

[zenith flax]

ahhh

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toy-story-buzz-dab-me-up-dab-up-gif-26395273

[vocal flame]

Why are you blaming me? ;-;

My mod doesn't even touch the drop ship before you're even landed

[unique geode]

Yeah your mod was fine lol

[plush wing]

On the rpc one, how would you guarantee that everyone has the same weather if only one is asking for it though?

[plush wing]

Fix what?

[unique geode]

The error I got when using Faster Landing with LLL 1.2.3

Nothing broke that I could tell but it still caused an error

This

It only happened if I had the Faster Landing upgrade for the ship

So it was causing some sort of conflict

I guess I should get the correct name lol

Landing Thrusters

XD

I confirmed it was that cus when I set it from true to false the error went away

Why it conflicts with LLL idk

[plush wing]

So remove the values from Wait For Seconds?

That just seems I'm making the enumerator end too fast.

[zenith flax]

same way the dungeon is handled

the server rolls for the results once, then sends said results out to each client

[plush wing]

And wheres the guarantee the host is the last so that it overwrites (calls the rpc) the clients?

[zenith flax]

ah there we go

im meant to be telling the vanilla call to kill itself

thank you

.. which means i'd probably need a transpiler

yipeee..

[unique geode]

Well I'm sure @slim wind could help with that, all the transpilers that man has for Weather lol

[unique geode]

I was trying to diagnose the Dropship not landing when the issue turned out to be the ship never being counted as fully landed lol

That was my bad

[vocal flame]

No problem xd

[plush wing]

Can't you only fire the dungeon related events when there is a dungeon to begin with?
I would assume the company doesn't generate a dungeon so it wouldn't have a DungeonFlow, no?

[zenith flax]

ye

i usually do

[plush wing]

Yeah, there isn't a null check before firing the events (onShipLand & onShipLeave ones) so that's probably why the ship stops landing in the company moon.

Don't think checking the level is necessary, so long as you always have guaranteed that it won't be null.

[unique geode]

So is 1.2.3 still planned to go on Thunderstore today now that you got those 2 issues fixed @zenith flax? ;o

[leaden citrus]

How would I check what the current generated interior is? @zenith flax

[serene viper]

does all work here?

[leaden citrus]

I figured it out

[fierce axle]

so is company bugfix getting pushed today?

[unique geode]

Batby plans to but no promises, patience ^^

[young acorn]

is the fixed min/max scrap value going to be added into LLL by the time the update releases? (and will it affect the vanilla moons?)

[unique geode]

I imagine it's fixed, but I'm not aware of this being an issue tbh

[young acorn]

someone made a thingy that fixes it but it technically changes gameplay because scrap min/max value is broken in vanilla

[unique geode]

I mean if it's broken in vanilla idk if that's on Batby to fix, plus it doesn't feel any different than it did in v49 for me

[young acorn]

doesn't feel any different because it's always been broken

[unique geode]

Yeah then it isn't Batby's job to fix that

That's on Zeekerss to fix

[idle ravine]

Not necessarily broken per se but it's because there's a global multiplier for scrap that's a fixed value, so it looks like scrap values don't match the min/max

You could probably make an extremely simple mod to force that multiplier to 1 to fix it if you want, but it'd definitely throw the balance off

[plush wing]

The thing about this is that each level's min and max total value are not used in scrap generation.
You can find some code where there was plans of using it but it doesn't influence the generation in any way right now (even though it has these values stored in each level)

[solemn bison]

The values don’t even need to be made to work per se as there’s probably a reason they were unused at this point, but to my understanding it basically means there isn’t really a good user-facing way to tune total scrap value on a per-moon basis

LLL doesn’t need to make gameplay changes by default, it just needs to expose those values assuming they aren’t already

[limber thunder]

yeah, checking the dungeon is enough. literally a two-character (?) fix, just tried it.

diff --git a/LethalLevelLoader/General/EventPatches.cs b/LethalLevelLoader/General/EventPatches.cs
index 6eb43c6..20afa8f 100644
--- a/LethalLevelLoader/General/EventPatches.cs
+++ b/LethalLevelLoader/General/EventPatches.cs
@@ -182,7 +182,7 @@ namespace LethalLevelLoader
         {
             LevelManager.CurrentExtendedLevel.LevelEvents.onShipLand.Invoke();
             LevelManager.GlobalLevelEvents.onShipLand.Invoke();
-            DungeonManager.CurrentExtendedDungeonFlow.DungeonEvents.onShipLand.Invoke();
+            DungeonManager.CurrentExtendedDungeonFlow?.DungeonEvents.onShipLand.Invoke();
             DungeonManager.GlobalDungeonEvents.onShipLand.Invoke();
         }
 
@@ -193,7 +193,7 @@ namespace LethalLevelLoader
         {
             LevelManager.CurrentExtendedLevel.LevelEvents.onShipLeave.Invoke();
             LevelManager.GlobalLevelEvents.onShipLeave.Invoke();
-            DungeonManager.CurrentExtendedDungeonFlow.DungeonEvents.onShipLeave.Invoke();
+            DungeonManager.CurrentExtendedDungeonFlow?.DungeonEvents.onShipLeave.Invoke();
             DungeonManager.GlobalDungeonEvents.onShipLeave.Invoke();
         }
 

Oh, also, while I was testing 1.2.3 before the fix I died on Day 3 (don't ask). Obviously couldn't then leave the Company with my empty ship. After reloading with the fix, all my Items (which I should have lost after dying) were back. I'll try to reproduce.

[limber thunder]

Yup, sure does reliably work. New save, collect some items, die on day 3, land at company on day 4 (with no items), quit game, load save, items that were on the ship on day 3 are back.

[teal tendon]

Any advice to optimize the size? that's insane
Why now my levels lethalbundle has gone from 3 mb to 51 mb?

[limber thunder]

Do you have any references to assets you don't need to include? Last I remember Unity tends to include more rather than less to make sure everything referenced is included.

[teal tendon]

The thing is that by referencing, for example, the enemies in the selectable level, it saves all the textures and assets related to the enemies in the assetbundle

[merry marsh]

Ganimedes v50 update?👀

[teal tendon]

Yeah, it's done. I wanted to see if I can optimize the size before publishing it

[fervent barn]

is LLL stable rn, or is it still suffering from buggyness after the v50 update?\

[merry marsh]

Very excited for when it's up. It's probably my groups favorite moon. I assume there'll be a price increase?

[merry marsh]

It's very stable 🙂 Just make sure to use terminalformatter

[fervent barn]

ok

how about processing power, do custom moons make things chug like the model replacements tend to? (for laptops and other lower end pcs)

[teal tendon]

Glad to hear that! <3 And yes, I have finally decided to increase it to 2000

[merry marsh]

I just recently bumped it up to 1800 in my pack so I'm glad to hear that 😄 2000 was my initial gut price too, I went a little cheaper to be nice to my friends but now it's official 😈

[merry marsh]

That really depends on which modded moons we're talking about. You'll have to test moons yourself to figure that out

[fervent barn]

mostly just asking if it would be better to just not use LLL based mods on lower end hardware

[merry marsh]

It really just depends on the mod, LLL does enemies and scrap now too. I honestly just recommend trying stuff out

It really varys mod to mod

[fervent barn]

olrighty

[merry marsh]

Moons by AudioKnight tend to have pretty good performance. I'm also a huge fan of Wesley and Tolian but you'll have to go through their moons and see which ones work best for you. They're all not equally performant

[teal tendon]

hahah you're going to have to work harder to go 😆

[merry marsh]

The amount of scrap value you get is insane so it should be a pretty late game moon imo

I really wish that mineshaft interior would be finished soon so I'd have the perfect interior for it

[merry marsh]

Also Ganimedes by @teal tendon is pretty sick, I really recommend checking that out 😄 I find it runs pretty well

[jolly cargo]

is there any short hand way to get logs printed of wordy information like all simulate results?

just to avoid manually doing it in game a few hundred times for testing

[tall kindle]

Check how LLL does it

Patch the start game method or smthn to display it

Voila

[teal tendon]

Is there any way to prevent that?

[tall kindle]

@calm eagle might know

[prisma mulch]

Hey guys.
Is there a way to make v50 enemies and traps to spawn on a LLL Custom Moon?
Right now only those i selected in the SelectableLevel will spawn.

[blissful spire]

How do I downgrade LethalLevelCompany to 1.2.1 with r2modman?

[plush wing]

You download it again.

It always asks what version you want.

[calm eagle]

Copy the enemy type asset into your own folder, clear the prefab from it, and use that blank copy instead. Saves a lot of space

[prisma mulch]

I don't have the v50 prefabs.
But if i understand you correctly i don't even need them?
Simply create a Butler (Enemy Type) (for example) and add it?

[calm eagle]

Sure, but having all the assets comes in handy

[prisma mulch]

That's true.
Can you tell me where to get the v50 assets?

[young acorn]

re-run the project patcher

[prisma mulch]

Ah, okay. Thanks!
Do i have to backup my files or won't it delete my own files?

[merry marsh]

I'd make a backup just in case

[prisma mulch]

I am already into it. 😄

[teal tendon]

Ty! And for the turrets and landmines?

[jolly cargo]

how do I specify celest and celestria? even including the numbers at the front doesn't fix it

[merry marsh]

Theres no way to fix it currently 😦

[calm eagle]

You can just make a blank prefab with the correct name and substitute it and it should work

[teal tendon]

How useful! Thank you so much!

[fierce axle]

are there still issues with LLL 1.2.3 or something?

[zenith flax]

yeah got hit with the busies

[unique geode]

Are you still planning to release it soon? I know you got the 2 issues I discovered fixed if I remember idk what else you were planning to change before pushing it live ^^ but take all the time you need 🩷

[zenith flax]

i am but life being living so dont wanna say anything specific

[unique geode]

Yeah you're all good ^^

[limber thunder]

I'd like to propose some changes to the LLL build, but don't wanna break things for your workflow. would you like to talk things over first or should I just open a PR and we discuss there?

nothing urgent, just want to make life a bit easier for contributors who aren't sitting in front of your specific computer.

[zenith flax]

Im chill for talk anywhere when im available

Heres chill

[limber thunder]

Cool. So mostly I'd like to go to dependencies from NUget. Also drop the need for the MMHOOK assembly dependency (although I had an entire msbuild plugin cobbled together T_T).

Thing that I'm not clear on yet is how to handle the Unity Editor side. One of the Ideas I was toying with is to split things up into several assemblies (Unity Components and Editor Assemblies for Downstream devs so they needn't have the BepInEx/Harmony stuff cluttering things up, main LLL which should only need the components Assy)?

Haven't yet built a Level, so I probably should go through the process once to understand it. So far I've only meddled with the LC side. Is the Github wiki still current enough to go on?

Ideally there could be a github workflow that does all the Thunderstore stuff. Dev Assemblies tbd cause idk if you can have a unityEditor.dll in a workflow.

(maybe using https://hub.docker.com/r/unityci/editor 🤔 )

anyway i got the impression all the packaging and deployment is taking a lot of time and energy for you, so let's automate as much as possible. especially since it looks like LLL is becoming a central piece of LC modding infrastructure.

[jovial linden]

heya, i feel like im being stupid but is LLL ignoring custom interior weights? trying to set wesley's toyhouse interior to be guaranteed on rend, but even with content configuration enabled on it and the chance set to 9999, the game is still only registering it with a weight of 150?

[unique geode]

It's not, you need to configure it through the config that wesley made for it

the LLL config doesn't work for Wesley's interior

[jovial linden]

wesley's interiors doesnt... have... a config??

[unique geode]

It does

[jovial linden]

ah. thatd do it

so sorry for the trouble 😭 i didnt see it

[unique geode]

You're all good ^^

[limber thunder]

just leaving you a marker for what I said @zenith flax

[spiral siren]

you want to put Unity assemblies into a NuGet server? is that legal if it's not done by Unity themselves?

I suppose maybe it would be okay if they're stripped

[vapid furnace]

If anyone could potentially help, I'm trying to tweak interior sizes and while I know hospital is bugged, I for the life of me can't see any noticeable difference in Pool Rooms regardless of what I set the dungeon size multiplier to. Size 1 and 3, and even extremes like 0.25 all appear to be the same size testing on Experimentation 😭
I have both config settings set to true, have tried regening LLL config, but still no luck. Is Pool Rooms just always that big?

[leaden citrus]

I had that issue too TwT

Couldn't find the config file for a second

[zenith flax]

@limber thunder mmhook dependency is due to the hard ref to lethallib, which could very much be a soft dependency forsure

only reason i haven't done nuget type stuff is inexperience with workflow related stuff yeah, i come from a game design in unity background so programming related experience has been slowly creeping up

the split assemblies for editor purposes is trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist imo, i see the vision but i just don't think its something that needs time spent on it

and yeah RE: the min and max scrap thing

totally viable problem, totally viable solution, just probably not for LLL

[zenith flax]

sorry if this blows up

[unique geode]

@hexed mesa Did you get that SDM update ready for the LLL 1.2.3 release? lol

I imagine you did, you just had to change dungeonEvents to DungeonEvents

[hexed mesa]

It be a simple change

[unique geode]

Ye

c;

@empty trail are you gonna see if your scenes work now? ;o

@tall kindle don't forget to update ImmersiveScrap

😄

[empty trail]

Hm oh

Yeah

Ill check it tmrw

[unique geode]

c;

Finally Affliction and Eve will get the different scenes

((I hope 🥺))

[empty trail]

It will likely

Batby got eve working on his end iirc

When he was trying to figure out that scene stuff a bit ago

[zenith flax]

yee

was really odd

[unique geode]

I'm so happy

😄

Finally I'll get old Affliction back

I missed it

;~;

As much as I love the new scene for it it doesn't give me the same vibes as landing and hearing all the yippee's XD

[median wing]

Getting an error when trying to lift off from the company: https://pastecode.io/s/ox5qp4r3

[tall kindle]

lmfao

we went from error going into company to error leaving company?

[elder ether]

after the update my game literally does not load

[dim pelican]

oh shit 1.2.3 dropped !?

[elder ether]

my ass stuck on the launch mode screen

[zenith flax]

fuck me

ok

ty

[unique geode]

With TerminalFormatter or without?

[tall kindle]

my guy send logs

[elder ether]

my fault gang

i already downgraded gimmie a second

my ass was trying to test my shit

essentially just stuck on the main menu with the buttons not doing anything

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/2doU3v3pazQnBc/d1337cxkG1ty?invite=cr-MSxnVmYsMjI5ODA1OTQwLA

[lament nebula]

The authentic modding experience

[elder ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1129971919555412019/1149511078972231810/IMG_4111.gif

[lament nebula]

You download a mod that changes a sound and suddenly you don’t even reach the main menu

[elder ether]

fallout 4: downloaded a shotgun mod and it crashes all of downtown boston and deletes the castle

[lament nebula]

This was content warning

[lament nebula]

Bruh

[elder ether]

good thing i dont play content warning

[lament nebula]

It’s a lot of fun tbh

[elder ether]

btw if you want my modlist i can slide

[lament nebula]

popping an edible and playing it with some friends is a time and a half

[elder ether]

• generic moons v50

dont bully me for my modlist this is just my testing file

😔

[lament nebula]

bullies you

[elder ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1237125640168149063.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=acorn

[tall kindle]

my favourite animated emote

[lament nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

Shhh let him think nobody notices the modded client

[elder ether]

:3

i stole it from smores

which is probably why it sucks ass

[tall kindle]

yeah it doesnt have to be modded client lol

its actually an illegal client

:c

[elder ether]

speaking of brodidally still has not done my drill

fucking sobbing

[lament nebula]

Saw it sent as a link for a second first which was why I thought it was lol

[lament nebula]

I love that springlock meme

[elder ether]

https://tenor.com/view/furry-anti-furry-furrys-when-the-springlocks-start-activating-gif-3295430340879895358

[lament nebula]

It’s a banger

Like 80% of my favourited discord gifs are just sus “hop on lethal company” memes

bc one day all of my favourited gifs vanished

https://tenor.com/view/vroom-lethal-company-lethal-company-landmine-gif-15972472913251378053

[whole stirrup]

I also have this problem when I tried to run a profile with only one custom moon

But with 100+ mods profile game works fine

[unique geode]

Yeah @zenith flax the ship doesn't even leave the company building 😂

[zenith flax]

.

[unique geode]

Yeah I was just confirming it from my end

lol

[unique geode]

Hope you get a hotfix out soon 🙏

[median wing]

Thanks for such a great mod that makes so many cool things possible!

[limber thunder]

@zenith flax fix for not being able to launch. (if thunderstore 1.2.3 is the same as on github)

[zenith flax]

ik the fix ye

[limber thunder]

ok cool

[unique geode]

I imagine Batby is already working on the hotfix right now, I doubt he wants to leave people unable to leave the company

[limber thunder]

when you're done with 1.2.3.1 ^^'...
I'll just PR my nuget shenanigans then you can see what I mean.

you're right, for just ExtendedScriptableObjectDrawer a separate editor assembly is way too much. I'm probably not seeing the relevant documentation, but how do I get the ScriptableObjects and ExtendedScriptableObjectDrawer into unity currently? (drop the LLL.dll into the evaisa template? include the entire source tree?)

I think I could fashion the scriptableObject parts into a unity package.

[unique geode]

That's a game breaking issue

[zenith flax]

heads up people use https://github.com/nomnomab/lc-project-patcher nowadays and not eva's template

and yeah you just put LLL and it's dependencies in your project

[unique geode]

@zenith flax I apologize that somehow The Company has been so cursed for you as of late XD

[limber thunder]

gotcha (i was going off the wiki, still getting my bearings for the level dev stuff)

[zenith flax]

yeee no stress

wiki is lacking hard

[limber thunder]

I blame zeekers. xD

[zenith flax]

nah nothing to blame zeekers on

theres no real benefit for seperating anything LLL for editor purposes tbh. could def see packaging it as a whole via unity package for proper updating though

theres a very unfinished editor tool i was working on that was meant to do all that related stuff but

it be like that

[limber thunder]

now you say that, but the Company/Gordion node inconsistency i found a a bit iff. null checks are on you, yeah. ^^

[zenith flax]

yeah the -1 one thing is weird

but terminal stuff is old

a lot of documentation/testing/minor update release issues just come down to time and money for me unfortunately

[limber thunder]

I'll see what I can do unity package wise

yeah, I can see how that's a low priority

lemme wade through that and I'll update what I find along the way

[zenith flax]

the project has a whole is low priority for me rn just because i need to be working on stuff that gets me closer to what i need

[limber thunder]

ye, going from wanting to design experiences with custom content to designing and developing APIs (empowering you to do the former) is a heavy stretch. fair play putting this on the back burner. and thanks for being this responsive about it anyway!

(maybe put a KoFi link in the github readme and a pinned post here too?)

[zenith flax]

yeee no stress, usually happy to talk about it whenever just not much time to put into it rn haha

while i'm extremely appreciative of the donations i've got via KoFi I think this is just the wrong time and place to be fortunate enough to be supported working on a project like this, which I can't be too mad about given the nature of modding

job stuff just be hard haha

[limber thunder]

Fortunately work is a bit of a lull for me right now (and little coding, normally I do dev as a day job) so I have some time and energy to spend here.

[unique geode]

@zenith flax any eta on the hotfix?

[fierce axle]

apparently 1.2.3 breaks something with dungeon?

[manic tiger]

yes, it's in the Changelog.

[plush wing]

The mods that rely on LLL might have to update to name changes.
That is all.

[manic tiger]

Fixed issue regarding routing to Company
Changed ExtendedDungeonFlow.dungeonEvents to ExtendedDungeonFlow.DungeonEvents (Sorry to PoolRooms which likely needs an update)```

[fierce axle]

oh so just pool rooms ok

[manic tiger]

well, whatever used that reference.

[plush wing]

Or others that was using that field.

[fierce axle]

no modded scrap broken besides immersive?

[manic tiger]

I can't know - early to determine if they're any side effects.
Besides, this "hotfix" went from deprecated to "fixes 1.2.3".
Maybe it's worth trying? Not sure it fixes the above mentioned issue tho.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer/

[vocal flame]

Scarlet Devil Mansion is also affected

[vocal flame]

It only fixes the company

[manic tiger]

Is there any chance to temporarily "wrap" the events so they get properly redirected to the new renamed ones?

Not sure if this makes sense or is technically feasible, bepinex is a bit out of my comfort zone.

I.e. if one mod registers to the old event - this gets caught and it registers to the new one instead.

[vocal flame]

I was just thinking about this xd

I'll have a look, but if there are more breaking changes, this might not be feasible

[tall kindle]

whats the wrap events mean?

[vocal flame]

Basically hacking all Assemblies to redirect the call from ExtendedDungeonFlow.dungeonEvents to ExtendedDungeonFlow.DungeonEvents

[manic tiger]

I am faithful.🙏
Let's address this "let's uppercase this" breaking change somehow (but let's make sure who's still relying on the old naming gets a 3-pages ascii art of errors until they update that reference 😛 )

[vocal flame]

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　　　　　　　　　｜　｜| |      /__________\             
.--------| `--------' |------|    --=-- |-------------.
|        `----,-.-----'      |o ==  |             | 
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^^^ 
Nag author of XY to update their LLL stuff

Like this? xd

Oh... Discord broke it 😒

[slim wind]

didn't AC do that for everything?

it's surely possible

but it would need to be in a preloader to load before anything else

[vocal flame]

I never said it isn't possible.

It may just not be feasible

[rough escarp]

what in gods name is this

its only happening with me today??

ig thats gotta be the new update for it

[manic tiger]

Perfection 😂 🙌

almost, we need an unsufferable nagging message demanding the mod to be updated 😛

[mint quarry]

This is my speculation about the bug in LLL

This bug make it completely stuck on the start interface and unable to enter the game.

[plush wing]

If you only have this warning, it just means it didn't load the scene after being done with the bundles.

[azure ether]

So is it best to just use 1.2.2 still?

[pine olive]

pretty much

[unique geode]

I think @hexed mesa is gonna be pushing an update for SDM idk if PoolRooms will update today though

Actually SDM was already updated

[hexed mesa]

You dare ping me without checking

[vocal flame]

This came into my mind reading this message xd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3GOL_KHxX4

[unique geode]

I just woke up and was catching up on all the messages my bad ☠️

Sorry

[hexed mesa]

If Xu was still a moderator I would have sent her to send you to the gallows

OH YA BTW

[vocal flame]

You can ask @dusky mantle instead :3

(He he, get pinged)

[hexed mesa]

@zenith flax i asked ya but ya never checked. I'm asking if you could check the top part of my mod page here, the part about loading dungeons on custom moons
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Alice/ScarletDevilMansion/

i wanted to ask if it was correct. i always get questions about how to set it up so I added it to help out

Oh really anyone else who knows how to load dungeons on custom moons (yall other gamers)

[tall kindle]

If you check LLL's config helper he does use : and , like you have it

[tall kindle]

Damn, missed opportunity

[dusky mantle]

What did i miss

[tall kindle]

Me preferrably

[dusky mantle]

huh

[tall kindle]

You know exactly what I mean

[zealous sky]

Wait, may you please expand on this? Because I'm having an issue where when I go to certain moons, it uses more than one day for the quota and I haven't been able to figure out why.

[empty trail]

So, making the Day Speed Multiplier somewhere around .5 would make the amount of ''days'' pass as 2

Idk what speed mults of 2 do

but Id say just leave it at 1

and if a moon happens to have a multiplier something that isnt 1 already, probably report that as a bug and set it to 1 via the LLL config

[zealous sky]

I see. Alright, then. Is there any way to have certain moons go by at different times without LLL then?

[empty trail]

uhh no clue tbh

[zealous sky]

Damn. That's alright. But thanks for the info, Rosie!

[plush wing]

Not really because it's a vanilla issue that different day multipliers leads to more than 1 day being taken from quota.

So if anything, you would have to find some mod that fixes this issue.

[zenith flax]

@plush wing will check out that new pr next time im working on this tyvm

[fierce axle]

will there be a fix for the fix for the fix soon? lol /j

[unique geode]

Haha I really am sorry 🙏 I woke up so disoriented today lol

[jolly cargo]

How do I make LLL do enemy spawns per moon rather than individual configs?

Like it seems that all modded enemies ignore LLL and use their own spawning

Do I leave the modded configs blank?

[young acorn]

1.3 seemed to freeze my game on startup after pressing online, even though my only mods were lll requirements, devmode and my own mod

[jolly cargo]

Batby please fix the config bug soon, it used to work perfectly and this mod was great was hand setting everything by moon. No other mods do this. It really hurts to say that the config is the lowest of low priorities

Like the default values even used to update if you changed a weight in a different config

[zenith flax]

its not a bug

[jolly cargo]

but it is

it worked perfectly beforehand

[zenith flax]

that doesnt mean its a bug

[jolly cargo]

...how

It was a feature to begin with and now it does nothing

[zenith flax]

it shouldn't be doing nothing

its that it does things earlier now

[jolly cargo]

Yeah that sounds like exactly the problem

[zenith flax]

thats intentional behaviour, it's an API. specific mods should have higher priority

[jolly cargo]

Maybe you can send me a build where it’s not later and I can test it

[zenith flax]

I will not be doing that

[jolly cargo]

Elaborate

[zenith flax]

if anything changes to the configs in LLL anytime soon it would be me removing it all

[jolly cargo]

….

Why exactly?

[zenith flax]

because config stuff isn't fun or educational

its the equivilent of working on a playground and doing the job of evening out the dirt

[jolly cargo]

Educational?

[zenith flax]

yes

i dont learn anything from working on it

if i dont enjoy it, earn profit from it or learn from it im not gonna do it

[jolly cargo]

Uggh I honestly don’t think I can sleep now lol

Im going to have to code it all myself then and I don’t know how to dynamically do that

So much to figure out now

Even if I do it by hand per moon that exists in all mods I would need to grab the data for the default values AFTER every other mod has loaded. Maybe I can fuck with it somehow and make it not run in awake. Maybe it really isn’t that hard

[tall kindle]

What're you trying to do

I was always of the opinion that LLL shouldn't handle configs anyway, maybe it would help other mods build their configs but that's the most of it

[zenith flax]

it was mostly to make people shut up about it tbh

[tall kindle]

people just love configs, i love shutting down stupider config requests

"what? you want a config to turn off the only enemy in the mod? and you made a github issue for this?"

[jolly cargo]

Im the other way around, I would prefer if most mods didn’t use their own config and left it up to a central mod

[zenith flax]

fun idea

whos making it

[jolly cargo]

Me if no one else since I literally cannot function otherwise

[zenith flax]

gl with that

[jolly cargo]

I honestly only play this game for less than a half hour every 3 months but I need my perfect numbers

[unique geode]

@tall kindle btw you definitely need to update Immersive Scrap, a lot of the items from it don't spawn in currently

Like the Brick didn't spawn it at all tonight

I can't think of what else didn't

[tall kindle]

ill update it when i've got some other stuff fixed lol

[unique geode]

Okay ^^

I'll probably just disable it in the meantime XD

[tall kindle]

ye

[jolly cargo]

Im working 10 and half hours in only 5 ish hours and I haven’t slept at all

[tall kindle]

then go sleep

[jolly cargo]

I don’t even know when I’m going to have enough time to fix this

[tall kindle]

scary thought, u might not

[jolly cargo]

Im working two jobs and am not sure if aim getting any days off

[zenith flax]

it's interesting watching you come to the exact same conclusion i was trying to explain to you haha

[jolly cargo]

Well I don’t even know who I mod for but it’s really all I can do to be occupied

It’s suck too how I’m always chastised for coding instead of doing other things it sucks

[merry marsh]

I just wanna say I really love selene's choice. Really spiced up my pack and my group and I really enjoy playing with it 🙂

[jolly cargo]

Thank you

[tall kindle]

i love coding, and i love modding content, so i do both :p i only mod content

[jolly cargo]

I mean yeah it’s fun, just is kinda upsetting how I would spent dozens of hours tediously perfecting a modpack by every little number then I only play it for maybe 15 minutes

[jolly cargo]

Modding is my hobby and I have so much focus I often don’t eat, sleep, socialize, or study when I have a task

If I have a task to do with it, I’m going to be 90% thinking about it always whether I’m at work, eating, etc. I won’t stop planning until I have a reasonable plan

[tall kindle]

i do that too, its unhealthy, you just gotta find a way around it

[jolly cargo]

Yeah I just can’t relax until I’m done

At least progress is enough for me to be at ease

Ok, I think I though enough to sleep so gn

[tall kindle]

gn

[tall kindle]

i might be tripping, but i think LLL is stopping my console from loading, not sure what mod exactly is conflicting, the last line in the logs is about Unity Explorer from Noop , specifically the 1.2.3 version, ill test around with it more and let you know

[mellow flame]

I wish I had that ethic

[jagged arch]

I burned myself out working nonstop on the rewrite of the lc project patcher over the past 3 weeks straight I get too fixated on obscure problems like this lmao

[tall kindle]

If it were me it'd take me 3 weeks and 2 seconds

Week

Weak

[low zealot]

is anyone able to leave the company map

[tall kindle]

Non

Use testaccounts fix mod

[jagged arch]

3 weaks

[waxen fog]

it might have been some weird coincidence, but I tried the fix mod yesterday and then all of a sudden LLL just wasn’t working and I only had vanilla moons. Uninstalling the fix solved it but I guess it could’ve been a coincidence

Will have to try again

[toxic wigeon]

I've been away for awhile, could I get a tl;dr of 1.2.3?

[acoustic sonnet]

use the mod "lethallevelloadercompanyfixer"

along with it

[dim pelican]

terminal formater no longer needed riight?

[toxic wigeon]

any moons or interiors no longer working? I had loading issues with Tolian's moons mixing up interiors with 1.2.2, but I updated those and not LLL yesterday

[acoustic sonnet]

I could tell you a good list in dms

if thats cool

[toxic wigeon]

thatd be good

friend in playgroups got a toaster for a pc so we gotta limit moons

[waxen fog]

ohhh you gotta use both? im so used to disabling LLL ig

for fixes

[acoustic sonnet]

yeah

you need both

[versed spire]

@zenith flax

we got a problem😢

[tall kindle]

Which is?

[versed spire]

basicvaly

once u try to leave the company building

u cant leave

the ship dosent go

it just stays there forever

[plush wing]

Ah yes.

[versed spire]

thats the problem

[plush wing]

Join the queue of 50 people.

[versed spire]

oh

welp

[acoustic sonnet]

use lethallevelloadercompanyfixer

[versed spire]

ok

[versed spire]

thank fr bringing my atention to that

[unreal crest]

I feel like known issues should be pinned or something lol

I guess people wouldn't look at that first though anyway

[limber thunder]

It’s not like there isn’t a search function, or heck, even a scroll bar. Best barge in and ping right away! 😔

[plush wing]

Meanwhile git issues are filled with duplicates.

[noble ingot]

Weird glitch with creating new modpacks (no configs generated), when you click online you are stuck with this error, game wont load

Dosen't happen on my regular modpack

[unreal crest]

Ah saw this earlier today too

Can't remember the resolution

I believe it was to do with wesley's moons @noble ingot

#modding-general message
Downgrading to 4.0.6 apparently works

[acoustic sonnet]

no its not

its an lll bug

downgrade to 1.2.2

fails to unpack assets rn

[unreal crest]

Cool, thanks for correcting me

[acoustic sonnet]

only happens if a mod hadnt been unpacked before by 1.2.2

[urban narwhal]

its just 'LethalCosmos"

[vernal grove]

so is 1.2.3 actually just fucked?

even with terminalformatter?

[azure ether]

I think it's best to use 1.2.2 still I feel

[vernal grove]

well there is no way im gonna convince my friends not to press the yellow button

[dim lily]

you'd have to downgrade SDM and poolrooms

for 1.2.2

[vernal grove]

since that would require an ounce of thought

[bitter pond]

It works if you're not on a new profile

[vernal grove]

luckily i only have SDM

[vernal grove]

ah ok

so what if i had a friend import a code?

does that count as a new profile?

[bitter pond]

That I'm not sure

Didn't try it with friends yet

[vernal grove]

welp, bouta test it tonight

so hopefully it works

[bitter pond]

Same, will play tonight and see

[rich aurora]

Gonna debend on scenarios, from what I found code importing from an existing profile seems to be safe

Some interiors like Wesley's GrandArmory seems to have a problem if you play on a completely new profile for some weird reason, I'm unsure of how to get around this issue for any fresh profiles

[lusty widget]

can someone help me fix a problem with my modpack? anytime i go into a save (new or old) it just puts in in a black screen with grass on the edges

[still urchin]

Hello, @lusty widget, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[lusty widget]

that would be better to put it i assume

[median wing]

There's a fix mod you can use... LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer I believe

[vernal grove]

yeah I know, just a little sick of downloading fixer mods for LLL lmao

[merry marsh]

I'd still recommend using 1.2.2

1.2.3 seems to have an issue unloading bundles #1193461151636398080 message

[vernal grove]

luckily I use fast asset loader so that should be fine on my end

[merry marsh]

Does that actually solve the problem? I don't know honestly

[vernal grove]

idk I got no clue

I haven't tested it today since none of my friends are playing today

[urban narwhal]

would you wanna test rq>

im available

fast asset loader is nice to have but doesnt neccessarily apply to all bundles

[vernal grove]

sorry I'm in VC with friends rn

[fathom quail]

I seem to be getting an error that doesn't let me leave the company building. this is with the office mod. i didn't get a proper screenshot but the error mentioned the level loader and turning both mods off did fix the issue. the lever would pull but the ship never took off and it was stuck on waiting for ship

Is this related to what people just mentioned above?

[fathom quail]

nvm i see this says it should fix it. https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer/ ill check if it works

works 👍

[hollow rivet]

Same issue

[unique geode]

It might have just hit me, but I think Faster Load also bypasses this issue

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DiFFoZ/BepInEx_Faster_Load_AssetBundles_Patcher/

Cus it unloads the asset bundles itself

[merry marsh]

Have you tested it? someone else also brought up that idea. Would be great if that worked

[unique geode]

I think it does work cus I just readded one of Tolian's moons to my pack

updated Sanguine

without issues

[merry marsh]

Nice, I'll have to give it a go. Would be nice that way I don't have to hold back updates in my pack

[unique geode]

and I've previously cleared my R2 cache so the cache for it would have been gone

Yeee

[merry marsh]

Now Wesley needs to fix his interior and I'll be all good😂

[bitter pond]

What's wrong with the interior?

I was about to start playing with friends

Unless you mean the duplicate thing that only happens to new profile

[merry marsh]

With my modpack I typically tell people to update using a fresh profile in case I delete anything from the pack. But I assume that'll mess up their game with Wesleys interiors

I really wish there was a way to remove a dependency in an update. Would eliminate needing to tell people to make fresh profiles 🙃

[noble ingot]

Maybe , I also do have that in my main modpack and I have no issues

Jsut not the one I was tearing

Testing *

[unique geode]

Yeah I have it in my main pack too, explains why I never reproduced the issue

@rough edge working that black magic fixing LLL bugs

[zenith flax]

What

[unique geode]

Pretty sure DiFFoZ's mod loads assets itself, it caches them in the game directory lol

Like there's Sanguine in the cache folder, I just added that Moon back to my pack cus Tolian fixed it to get rid of the desync issues

[zenith flax]

dont know what the problem is but

it wouldnt be unloading assets

and none of this would be fixing desync

assets arent meant to be unloaded

[merry marsh]

This was the original report #1193461151636398080 message

[unique geode]

I think I just worded it wrong lol

But yeah Zac linked it

LLL 1.2.3 fails to load assetbundles atm if they were never cached by 1.2.2

[zenith flax]

i know what the problem is

[unique geode]

and DiFFoZ's mod caches and loads AssetBundles as well

[zenith flax]

no

just

ok

[unique geode]

Okay so I'm just lucky it didn't repro for me from the sound of things, you know more than me

c;

[zenith flax]

i appreciate that you are trying to help

but nothing your saying is helping

[unique geode]

Yeah my bad 😅

I blame my Autism on wording things badly lol

[zenith flax]

it can make it difficult to identify issues when the identification of issues is wrapped up in false assumptions about why that is an issue

its not the wording

its that you don't know whats going on in the code but are trying to tell people your guess anyway

[unique geode]

Yeah my bad, you'd know more than me I've just been going off what others have said it's probably better to wait for your official word on things

[merry marsh]

Well what is the issue? Does using DiFFoZ's mod actually fix it then?

Or should people be sticking to 1.2.2?

[unique geode]

I mean I wanna guess it might, but I think the reasoning is different than my guess

But like I said Batby would know officially

[errant lotus]

Hello!
So what's now needed to play normally with the new version of LLL?

[unique geode]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DiFFoZ/BepInEx_Faster_Load_AssetBundles_Patcher/ This and https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer/ this for now

til Batby hotfixes it

[errant lotus]

thx!

[scenic canopy]

Can't leave Company. Known bug? Was fixed for a while and still using terminalformatter

[errant lotus]

do you use this mod?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer/

[scenic canopy]

No

Should I?

Imma assume so haha, ill give it a try

[unique geode]

I remember someone telling you to use it earlier to fix that bug

lol

[ashen cedar]

loaded up the game with just LLL and wesleys moons and i cant even open it

[plush wing]

It's known.

[unique geode]

Use the 2 mods I recommended please

[unique geode]

These ^

[ashen cedar]

I'm trying them now

[acoustic sonnet]

wait is faster asset bundles the new terminal formatter?

for 1.2.3

[ashen cedar]

For some reason on a new profile with just those two mods and Wesley's moons it doesn't work but on my modpack with a bunch of mods it works

[acoustic sonnet]

1.2.3 bug

use lll 1.2.2

with terminal formatter

[unique geode]

I would say

Run the game with 1.2.2 once

then reupdate

[ashen cedar]

Okay

[acoustic sonnet]

Do you have lethal expnasion?

[ashen cedar]

No

It didn't do this until I tested it on another version and then came back to the pack it started crashing

And that version I tested didn't have expansion either

[scenic canopy]

Nah, first time I was having that problem

[jolly cargo]

batby why is this obsolete I hate green

oh its capitalized wow

[magic prism]

my brain decided to melt and i require assistance

does LLL have that feature that allows me to preview interior percentage chances and stuff like that? if yes then how do i do it again

[tall kindle]

simulate I think

[rich aurora]

Yeah simulate <moon name>
So "simulate vow" should show you Vow's chances for each interior

[kindred bramble]

@fading wyvern
Heyo!
Wellness Check.
Are you still working on EGypt and your interior?

[fading wyvern]

oh 😭 right i havent told anyone