actually
#(GENERIC INTERIORS V5.0.0) Generic’s Generic stuff
upbeat egret
shy cape
its kinda like titan in that sense
paper bough
👀
upbeat egret
i got ideas now
pastel apex
its kinda like titan in that sense
yeah except that you can see that there is nothing
paper bough
titan is just that tho, a titan sized building
shy cape
hmm
paper bough
you're not meant to focus on anything else about it
shy cape
yeah i meant more like gameplay wise
upbeat egret
titan is just that tho, a titan sized building
^
i think
ok
so
v50 drops publicly and LLL gets updated with the v50 stuff
im remaking devastation
to be much more themed around a wrecked destroyed area
but ima do it right
tust
trust
fuck
i ruined it
paper bough
generic comeback soon
shy cape
do y'all think the 4th moon is coming on release or did zeeks jsut accidentally add it
shy cape
yeah
pastel apex
no its just a SelectableLevel which are basically moonsettings in the files and nothing else
pastel apex
i think he forgot to remove it
paper bough
yeah it's only settings
pastel apex
i hope he adds fish
upbeat egret
i would blow my shit
shy cape
i hope he adds fishing
paper bough
gen, have you experimented with the new enemies?
shy cape
the opening cutscene is also something that sounds really hype tho
upbeat egret
gen, have you experimented with the new enemies?
nope
:3
i literally just updated today
my internet was out yesterday
wary edge
man's already spoiling what they are
paper bough
.
shy cape
you pinky promised!!!!
paper bough
tbf, those mechs completely revamped the outdoor gameplay loop
wary edge
yea
shy cape
tbf, those mechs completely revamped the outdoor gameplay loop
its just helldivers now
wary edge
might be a few weeks later that we finally see your moons, wesley's etc on v50
cuz betas usually take a bit
desert dagger
mmmm
upbeat egret
womp womp
desert dagger
but yeah once i can work with the v50 shit im cooking
I'm already doing a repatch
upbeat egret
swag
i just wanna know when batby can get my ported stuff back cus i kinda wanna start working on terrain stuff now
before i can get my hands on the enemies
desert dagger
The sooner the new LLL comes out, the sooner I can release my moons
desert dagger
i just wanna know when batby can get my ported stuff back cus i kinda wanna star...
It's just a matter of waiting
shy cape
there's gonna be another moon?
#1192948703309344859 message
desert dagger
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1192948703309344859/12244569753...
something interesting.....
minor patio
hey could you guys like, spoiler your pictures and stuff saoidjso
i went in thinking there was generic moons news and got flashbanged by spoilers :P
upbeat egret
my b ill delete the images i sent
cus idk if you can spoiler already existing images
deleted the ones i could
(the ones i sent)
mental summit
spoiler warning for moons||its more than just 1 btw||
wary edge
yeah we kinda explored that a bit
upbeat egret
I might make it separate from gm but when lethal level loader gets that scene chooser for moons, I’m gonna make one called “nexus” that has 3 different types of moon generation
Gonna be a big project but I think it’s fitting
And then well
Generic moons will get collateral and devastation v2
upbeat egret
I might make it separate from gm but when lethal level loader gets that scene ch...
Using the different scene generation, I could also add different variations of the moons from this mod
Like different pipe locations and areas unlocked in vertigo
Or loading a variation of hydro
It would just require making it
slim moss
1% chance for it to pick a scene which has four walls built around the ship
open badger
1% chance for it to pick a scene which has four walls built around the ship
1% chance to have a default cube above the facility that you can see when playing on scpdungen
The Cube™️
slim moss
minor patio
dude no way y'all are adding rng routes for moons
the l4d2 virus is infecting this game and I love it
keeps stuff fresh and cool and awesome and AGHHHH I'M EXCITED
lusty lion
i haven't played l4d2
minor patio
the left4dead series has a mechanic called the director that changes events within a level to accommodate player performance
if you're doing really good it throws a strong enemy your way, if you're having a shitty time it spawns some better items
but most importantly based on a sprinkle of rng and a sprinkle of how you're doing in-game the routes you have to take within a level may change
minor patio
maybe a hallway is blocked by debris so you have to look for another exit or choose a different path and it's just sooo cool
it makes having only 12 campaigns in the game still fun cuz they still change so much
and there's very few scripted sequences because of this, so it just stays soo fresh even after more than a decade
minor patio
my kinda experience with that kinda system comes from prey mooncrasher
ooh, never heard of that game
glad more shit has that kinda system, it's such a good way to keep a game entertaining after years and years
and with systems like the ones you're working on I'm sure letcom will also remain as such for a long time heheh
upbeat egret
the left4dead series has a mechanic called the director that changes events with...
I see what you mean but while l4d does that during playtime, different scenes would only be loaded on game start
💔
Love l4d2 though
Most played game
minor patio
I see what you mean but while l4d does that during playtime, different scenes wo...
nah ik ik that'd be hard as fuck to do for letcom
but it still achieves the same thing
upbeat egret
I see
minor patio
plus l4d can change its scene on the fly like that cuz the whole map is big as fuck and long as fuck
it takes like at most a minute to get from point a to point b in an exterior
upbeat egret
plus l4d can change its scene on the fly like that cuz the whole map is big as f...
Crash course 
Unnecessarily long
minor patio
FUCK CRASH COURSE
upbeat egret
Hard agree
upbeat egret
Love making it to the end just to get folded and having to restart half the campaign
minor patio
me n my buddies made a l4d2 campaign tier list and it's low asf just cuz of how frustrating it is to lose in it
playing crash course is either a breeze or a pain in the ass
upbeat egret
Why is dam it on there
minor patio
but what's consistent is how not rewarding it feels to win it
upbeat egret
It never got finished?
minor patio
Why is dam it on there
eh it was in the tierlist
plus we played a reconstruction of it
it was pretty alright, just had some shit balancing
upbeat egret
me n my buddies made a l4d2 campaign tier list and it's low asf just cuz of how ...
Criminal for last stand to be so low
minor patio
listen...
upbeat egret
It’s not good but lowest?
minor patio
we just never look forward to playing it lmao
upbeat egret
Slide this tierlist rq
minor patio
me n my buddies made a l4d2 campaign tier list and it's low asf just cuz of how ...
i tried vouching for death toll to be higher but they didn't agree with me 👎
minor patio
Slide this tierlist rq
aight aigh
upbeat egret
but tbf no mercy does that too
I used to love no mercy but I’m now really mixed solely because of the ending
minor patio
Slide this tierlist rq
also dam it's scenery is just aughhhh
it's so good
the huge dam is just so fucking big it's so mesmerizing
minor patio
I used to love no mercy but I’m now really mixed solely because of the ending
fair enough
it's the prototype for all campaigns so it's bound to get tiring at points
upbeat egret
Done
C is basically neutral tier
I don’t really mind the ones in there
But god crash course fills me with rage
minor patio
forgot to add this but the tierlist was made the night after we beat all of them on expert mode
some are more fresh in our mind as others, so that can affect the listing
upbeat egret
Ahhhhhh
minor patio
we mainly struggled to tier dark carnival
upbeat egret
Yeah I’m not an expert guy
upbeat egret
5
upbeat egret
If I remember right
minor patio
there's the tunnel of love that ends with the roller coaster
upbeat egret
I love dark carnival but you could definitely get rid of the 3rd or 4th level
minor patio
then the fair one that ends with the horde event that you gotta wait out, where the door opens n you gotta run
and THEN there's the band finale
upbeat egret
then the fair one that ends with the horde event that you gotta wait out, where ...
That door opening segment is the only bad part about it
minor patio
and the 1st and 2nd mentioned are infinitely harder than the actual finale
upbeat egret
I fucking despise that section
minor patio
and SIGNIFICANTLY more frustrating, it'sinsane
minor patio
I fucking despise that section
when a hunter spawns on the roller coaster it's over
or a smoker
or literally any special LMAO
upbeat egret
Only when you don’t travel together
minor patio
fair lmao
upbeat egret
I would say play with the homies but I only have like 1 other person to play with
And he don’t talk to me no more 
Hard to find someone who still plays
Even though the games amazing and holds up nearly perfectly
It’s insane how l4d2 and portal 2 hold up more than most modern games
minor patio
I would say play with the homies but I only have like 1 other person to play wit...
we have a full team but we tend to stay up... far too late trying to beat campaigns
once we're more than halfway through one we just refuse to quit
minor patio
It’s insane how l4d2 and portal 2 hold up more than most modern games
frrr
l4d2 is a masterclass on god
upbeat egret
once we're more than halfway through one we just refuse to quit
Fair enough
My friend and I used to try to speedrun
Just a duo
Maybe that’s why I dislike no mercy finale
Done it so much and it’s not perfect already
minor patio
And he don’t talk to me no more <:yoiled:1181287712943259738>
shit happens lmao
upbeat egret
Plus the amount of times my friend got flung over the edge
minor patio
if you ever get the itch to play i'm mostly available
minor patio
Plus the amount of times my friend got flung over the edge
LMAOO
minor patio
Maybe that’s why I dislike no mercy finale
it's kinda slow yeah
i mostly stay the roof guy
minor patio
My computer is gasping for air
dude saame
before i legally obtained high quality rips of every single dragon ball episode i had like 200gb used up, now it's this
upbeat egret
before i ***legally obtained*** high quality rips of every single dragon ball ep...
Honestly
Worth it
raw karma
Wtf is going on in this channel
mental summit
Wtf is going on in this channel
The fog is
raw karma
😶🌫️
minor patio
Wtf is going on in this channel
peak gaming discussion
raw karma
I just wanna play the moons with LLL : (
minor patio
im pretty sure they're working on that currently
upbeat egret
I just wanna play the moons with LLL : (
not for a decent bit
batby was working on porting everything
but now hes doing other shit methinks
torpid acorn
im remaking devastation
off topic but... do you know why Devastation would be showing the incorrect price in the Moons list even if I dictate the default price with LethalQuantities?
upbeat egret
I get off of school early tomorrow and the day after
Might do some terrain practicing
Taking requests or any ideas
mental summit
Pine tree environment
upbeat egret
slim moss
A flesh environment
mental summit
Nuh uh Pine tree forest with some light snow piles and mountainous environment
slim moss
I claim the second half of this
mental summit
Damn this shit is to EASY baited Wesley into leaking moons fr
slim moss
Well
Yes
But
No
upbeat egret
A flesh environment
Not sure how that would work exactly
Maybe like bones and shit as structures
slim moss
Not sure how that would work exactly
Idk, grab a steak, take a picture, make it terrain
mental summit
Not the msrk one
slim moss
Whatever the Wesley red moon is
lol
First one
mental summit
Modders and there overlapping names smh smh
upbeat egret
I also had a moon named desolation
Didn’t realize that there was another
Good thing I shelved it
ornate skiff
Surprised no devs have fought over a name thus far
slim moss
Surprised no devs have fought over a name thus far
Well there were two fissions for a bit
ornate skiff
Well there were two fissions for a bit
🍿
What I'm mostly surprised about is no Metroid moon names making it
upbeat egret
Surprised no devs have fought over a name thus far
Idk but I already called dibs on
- collateral
- pathogen
- outbreak
- landfill
And for thawbound I have no idea what I’m gonna actually name it
ornate skiff
Bound
upbeat egret
Steamunleashed 😭
mental summit
Idk but I already called dibs on
- collateral
- pathogen
- outbreak
- landfill
Top exists somewhere
I think
mental summit
I think
upbeat egret
The goofybhoarding bug moon
upbeat egret
I talked a lot about it months ago before ditching it for a while
upbeat egret
Some other moon has that
I will cry
slim moss
🍿
Expert Moons also had a moon named Fission
I only realised after I had released mine lmao
ornate skiff
Expert Moons also had a moon named Fission
I only realised after I had released ...
So you're the shit stirrer wow wow
slim moss
I just slapped a "-C" on it
upbeat egret
What does that mean
mental summit
I will cry
I swear I’ve heard the name before
ornate skiff
Damn I just realized you two have all my favorite moons
slim moss
What does that mean
That means this
upbeat egret
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204432295025578014/1222056404052086875/i...
Yeah it’s in my moon pack
mental summit
I searched collateral in the discord
mental summit
Yeah it’s in my moon pack
Oh
upbeat egret
That’s from batbys porting
upbeat egret
Maybe a little
mental summit
Dumb*
upbeat egret
But it’s okay
ornate skiff
That means this
Why did you unstir the shitstorm 😭
upbeat egret
That means this
Wacky
bold hamlet
does this mod work with just lethalexpansioncore or do i need lethalexpansion?
mental summit
It should work
bold hamlet
aright thx
upbeat egret
does this mod work with just lethalexpansioncore or do i need lethalexpansion?
Actually as of right now I think it only works with le core
Although I’m not sure
Because it was developed on an old version of le and they changed the way the sun and item ship work
Last I tested (2 months ago) the sun never moved, was pink, and the item ship doesn’t show up
In reality it works but
Cmon that’s lame
It’s also the reason I was tweaking about getting ported to LLL because I updated my sdk and nobody actually uses LE
also all the doors got deleted during the update
No idea how that works
mental summit
also all the doors got deleted during the update
Major skill issue I think
slim moss
Last I tested (2 months ago) the sun never moved, was pink, and the item ship do...
Yeah some assets had namechanges in le so they wouldn't match up with the old sdk anymore
slim moss
I did the same
Realised lec was preferred
And reverted the update lol
upbeat egret
I just gave up instead
mental summit
Devastated
Desolated
mental summit
mental summit
upbeat egret
mental summit
upbeat egret
minor patio
why does he look like dat....
wary edge
Somehow no one has tapped my moon names I don’t think
im gonna yoink em and hold em hostage until you fix the autocorrect LLL uses when loading moons
wary edge
namely eve, but i imagine the problem would happen on more things potentially?
i cant really tell what the exact flaw is or what a potential fix actually would look like tbh
open badger
Taking requests or any ideas
late but redwood forest
mental summit
Surprised they didn’t try to add mr to his name
For some reason like 90% of the cats are just Mr.
it’s annoying
upbeat egret
I think it’s cus he’s from the John feeder
John feeder is like entirely without the Mr and ms
I had to add Mr and ms to my feeder thoigh
But I just call them by their names without them
We love ranger
#1 domestic terrorist
slim moss
I am so confused
mental summit
I am so confused
Cat lore
wary edge
I am so confused
theres websites that have tens of live videos of cats eating that you can interact with
slim moss
Ah right
Guessing that specific feeder is just called "John" then
For.. some reason lol
minor patio
"John feeder"
honey feeder real
upbeat egret
https://streetcat.wiki/index.php/Cat_Paradise_1 this is the page I did with all these cats
mental summit
https://streetcat.wiki/index.php/Cat_Paradise_1 this is the page I did with all ...
Oh my god I’m gonna gouge my eyes out
MR MS MR MS MR MS
AAAAAAAAA
upbeat egret
I have to
upbeat egret
Or it gets removed
mental summit
Lose it
mental summit
Or it gets removed
What
upbeat egret
They limit how many names don’t have Mr or ms
upbeat egret
Ik it’s weird
upbeat egret
At least we got shaggy
mental summit
Mr fresh worked but it doesn’t mean you have to put the same joke everywhere
It becomes unfunny and annoying
upbeat egret
I think the reason why it’s a rule is that the chat in China most of the time calls a cat by “brother”
Which the people on the wiki I guess changed to mr
I mean
Mr
Fuck
Either way I just call the cats I named by their name without the Mr or Ms
Ranger my beloved
mental summit
Ranger my beloved
Sandswept reference
wheat fox
upbeat egret
north rivet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046502612406636734/1227809688129900574/8...
WOAHH
upbeat egret
I forgot to terrain
I’ve been doing Minecraft stuff again
Whoopsies
I really wanna get back into mapping though
open badger
you've been on minecraft so i forgive you
upbeat egret
I’ve gotten good news
I’ve obtained a work in progress build from Batby
Collateral and icebound work on v50
Using LLL
lusty lion
the others do aswell i forgot i have to manually fix those cuz of something weird on your end
upbeat egret
(Thank you Batby)
upbeat egret
the others do aswell i forgot i have to manually fix those cuz of something weir...
How so?
lusty lion
i forgot, nothing major just some inconsistency
upbeat egret
Ah
lusty lion
the tool is fragile
upbeat egret
I can finally be organized
worn forge
batby, thank you for helping rescue these moons
worn forge
Collateral and icebound work on v50
Collateral?
upbeat egret
Oh yeah I forgot
Uh
Wip moon that I’ve been sitting on for 2 months
Along with. Like
…4 other moons
With drastically varying levels of progress
upbeat egret
Collateral is basically the poster child for this update
Junkyard with naturally outside hoarding bugs
worn forge
gimme gimme
upbeat egret
You’ll get it whenever I actually get off my ass and figure out how shit works
I’m so in the dark with LLL
but I’ve got friends now who can help :3
They’re also done gameplay wise it’s just visual
So maybe I could slide a test build at some point :3
worn forge
oh i meant in a "i cant wait" way, not a "release rn" way
upbeat egret
Nah I know what you meant I’m just being a little goofy
That’s just how I type and shit
worn forge
🤪
lusty lion
I’m so in the dark with LLL
i think once you spend a session looking at it youll realise its very similar to what you were already doing
trust 🤝
upbeat egret
It’s mainly just the getting installed thing lmaoooooo
I actually have to reinstall LLL
Like the workspace
I broked it last time
Like 3 times
Don’t question it
lusty lion
let me know when you want to do that
upbeat egret
Should I still follow the audioknight tutorial or do I have to do something else cus v50
lusty lion
nah its pretty much the same
upbeat egret
I don’t know if I said this before, but I intend to remake devastation to be an actual serious moon now
Especially since the new outside entity (if you know you know)
I wanna make it designed around verticality and would be a good use of the jet pack to bring items back and forth
I’ll have to see what I can do
Kinda like vertigo but the main entrance is in the bottom
Instead of across
slim moss
I wanna make it designed around verticality and would be a good use of the jet p...
||Sure.. verticality for jetpack use, totally not for involuntary flight lessons ->💥 ||
upbeat egret
Omg also I could add the new snakes
loud crown
Add new sneks to Hydro, perfect place for them
minor patio
this guy abandoned his mod btw
slim moss
Now you must update
upbeat egret
this guy abandoned his mod btw
blow up
im unabandoning it i need collateral out there
upbeat egret
bro blew his friend
minor patio
nuh uh
minor patio
LMAOOO
slim moss
LOL
upbeat egret
i will never recover from this
wary edge
Damn
upbeat egret
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396860171541807105/1231827048503447613/mf...
why do you even have these
minor patio
tilted sent em
in the giaqnt specimens thread
and i couldnt stop laughing like a freak in class
wary edge
Makes sense
upbeat egret
Sounds about right
upbeat egret
While the update is still in progress here is a hoarding bug who hit a vape and got struck by lightning
He was the coolest hoarding bug I ever knew
mental summit
He was the coolest hoarding bug I ever knew
I shoot hoarding bugs with revolvers
slim moss
Not only did we lose a yippee
But also our eardrums
worn forge
north rivet
the fiends
uneven lark
hows the port to LLL coming for this?
tall stag
i eated it sorry
upbeat egret
hows the port to LLL coming for this?
i have a working build of it but i dont have my actual project files back
i am likely going to have to fix the cacti on vertigo though
which is going to be tedius as fuck
uneven lark
i have a working build of it but i dont have my actual project files back
Oh, gotcha, was that something Batby was working on?
upbeat egret
yeah
lusty lion
id suggest using the tool yourself atp
lusty lion
#1230722341638508554
upbeat egret
what was even left on the stuff you sent me
why not just slide it back it seemed like it worked?
besides the random gen issue on vert, hydro, and devastation
lusty lion
im just not touching LC stuff rn
upbeat egret
fair enough
lusty lion
just say yes
upbeat egret
chat are we cooking
upbeat egret
its almost done i just need to fix the doors
and hopefully make some assets smaller
cus rn its uh
really fucking big
worn forge
@silk gorge ^
upbeat egret
aight
lusty lion
what was used on those builds i sent you
can look slightly muddy when using hd company but more than fine for default
upbeat egret
Going to bed but basically got it all except for the usual suspects (every moon except for icebound and collateral) not wanting to have proper doors so I have to add them
minor patio
Hell yeah baby 🚬
upbeat egret
Generic Moons 4.0.0 (V5 and LLL soon)
wet quartz
hydro
fathom frost
@upbeat egret
👀
slim moss
Im cooking
Hi cooking
slim moss
?
upbeat egret
i have to fix all the doors in my moons
if i wanted to use thye bsae game doors
do i just copy them
slim moss
That should work
upbeat egret
trying to give more props to icebound to make it less empty
worn forge
everyone here and me: im so glad these moons are getting LLL ports! ^^
also me: MOONS. MOONS. MOONS. MOONS. MOONS. MOONS. MOONS. MOONS. MOONS. MOONS!
also lookin forward to makin little icons for yer new ones
upbeat egret
main is too small but fire exits are perfect
annddddd icebound should be done
need to fix some eclipse errors but im waiting to vc with wes for that
onto the next moon
wary edge
Arguing is bad
tawny phoenix
I hope icebound stays free tho
that planet was like, icy march, always a must-go-to during first few quotas imo
upbeat egret
I hope icebound stays free tho
oh everything that was free is still free including one of the two new moons
icebound: free
collateral: free
hydro: free
vertigo: 250
zenith: probably somewhere 250-500 i havent decided yet
devastation: still 850 but if i do the rework probably 900-1000
also new vertigo parkour catch for the last part if you kept missing it
worn forge
hmm... just know Tolian has a moon called "Zenit". i would code it to where the route requires the entire word just to be safe
wary edge
Is that something moon creators can do from their side?
Also I cant wait for zenith configs to not work because zenit lol
shy cape
hmm... just know Tolian has a moon called "Zenit". i would code it to where the ...
terminal conflict fix would take care of that id assume, would just be an issue of telling everyone who uses both about it
worn forge
Is that something moon creators can do from their side?
maybe? just dont want the longer name to take priority when typing in "zen"
i know Wes' Infernis required the full name for some reason
tho that was back with LE...
desert dagger
terminal conflict fix would take care of that id assume, would just be an issue ...
will break just like Celest - Celestria
shy cape
wait, so there's no way to route to celest?
desert dagger
wait, so there's no way to route to celest?
No, there is a flight option, but the configs on celest apply to celestria
desert dagger
No, there is a flight option, but the configs on celest apply to celestria
but I'll fix that in the next update, I think
shy cape
No, there is a flight option, but the configs on celest apply to celestria
oh its even worse than that i think
it shows the moon price but name is celest (i typed celestria)
and the weather is also taken from celest
yikes
desert dagger
it shows the moon price but name is celest (i typed celestria)
Well, I'll fix it by renaming it to 9Celestria, I think that will solve the problem
shy cape
good old brute force
upbeat egret
hmm... just know Tolian has a moon called "Zenit". i would code it to where the ...
Well shit
wet quartz
dustbowl when
upbeat egret
Im not usually the guy to like
Stay firm on something
But I really want this moon named zenith
So I think I’m gonna keep it
Because this is a 4 month old collaboration moon that I’m just now finishing after a while of nothing
And I don’t even really talk to spooks anymore so I want to like keep his shit in and honor what he did for it
worn forge
then dont change. another solution can be found if needed, fren
upbeat egret
guys should i leave the parkour as i have it now or should i change it
cus im debating putting a bridge in between the other jump and make it not connect at the bottom cus its always bothered me
bleh
worn forge
a broken bridge. keeps the parkour without keepin it too long a gap
upbeat egret
maybe i could steal the one from adamance?
worn forge
in fact, it'd make it semi easy the first few times, then become harder after the platforms fall
dynamic difficulty
upbeat egret
also man putting the vanilla door on makes everything so much better
upbeat egret
turns out wesley and I use the same ice texture 😭
worn forge
lusty lion
nothing is just bricked
upbeat egret
ok so i put the doors on hydro and it worked
so this problem is unique to vertigo
speaking of hydro
flooded 😔
nvm chat water is completely gone if its not flooded
wet quartz
de-hydro :^(
upbeat egret
I drinked it all 😔
wet quartz
thorsty..
worn forge
dornk
upbeat egret
idk if i should polish devastation or replace it
like do i make it more fleshed out or start over
upbeat egret
either way got new doors on dev
gonna test if it works
works but terminal text is fucked somehow
worn forge
if main can be gotten to with minimal jumping, then i say polish or flesh out. dont remember how trekking to main was, but i did love the mountains and interconnecting pipes between em. gave a really ominous feel
north rivet
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/2bdRganpYy5BrQ/d1337zit1ecf?invite=c...
untextured rocks
upbeat egret
untextured rocks
north rivet
upbeat egret
ah btw
devastation is physically too big
for the game to render
1/4th of the actual map is playable
shy cape
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/ViewExtension/
is this something that could solve the issue or is something else
upbeat egret
nah its fine its just background stuff
upbeat egret
i thinkk i went overboard
lusty lion
I gotta automate this in the future but
So in the assetbundle browser sort by filesize descending to get a vibe check
Theres three big steps
On your textures, set them all to max res 512, compression mode low compression. 99.9% of textures will look fine on this and you can change specific ones back if necessary after
On your audio, mostly your logs, convert to 128kbps mp3’s. Any online site should do it fine, Audacity can too.
The last one is something ideally I’d have a tool for but I don’t so. LLL knows what vanilla items and enemies you want in your SelectableLevel via name checks. This means I only need the name. So in your item and enemy prefabs made by the assetripper, remove pretty much everything aside from the empty parent. In the Item and Enemy scriptableobjects remove any references to prefabs and audio etc too
Copy paste what i sent to wesley
the third point you prob gotta do
Oh also on your fbx and/or mesh files i set compression to high and one other setting that was performance related that i forgot
worn forge
the batby has spoken
upbeat egret
Oh also on your fbx and/or mesh files i set compression to high and one other se...
swag
ok
upbeat egret
devastation landing pad redo
with lighting
upbeat egret
ok so im gonna have to change devastations spawn rates
because of the baboon hawk changes
new lighting goes crazy though
eclipse lighting works
(collateral)
worn forge
🔥
lusty lion
according to LLL devastation is A
by default lll auto calculates it
upbeat egret
i know
lusty lion
can manually disable in extendedlevel if you prefer
upbeat egret
oh wait like in game
oh
this is what it was set in here for some reason
mid port it lowered
weird
oh yeah wes and i made big progress today
he showed me how to fix the hydro water, eclipse weather working, REMINDED ME TO MAKE PREFABS, etc
unfortunate side effect
the sky is blue
upbeat egret
he showed me how to fix the hydro water, eclipse weather working, REMINDED ME TO...
oh and outdoor scrap
minor patio
SIICK
upbeat egret
its a bit fucky rn though so im tryna get it to be more consistent
OH and we had a one off thing on collateral
literally happened once never again
no idea what or why
minor patio
I SAW THE CLIP YEAH WTF
upbeat egret
balling
upbeat egret
does anyone read these
minor patio
Devastation's* heat
has dramatically dropped since the incident* (removed the 1st since cuz of redundancy)
i do read these
upbeat egret
blow up
fixed
(my boyfriend lied to me he said it sounded good)
i need to write out the changelog already im forgetting what ive already done
merry void
does anyone read these
I didn't even know you could look at that in the terminal lol
i thought it was only on the main monitor
upbeat egret
nah if you type "info" and then moon name it pops up an extended description with hystory
history*
been working on adding mine in because i ported to LLL (LE didnt have it)
well le does now but i never updated to the version that did
minor patio
(my boyfriend lied to me he said it sounded good)
I'm an english teacher so if you ever need help like, figuring out if something sounds good just ask me :P
upbeat egret
soon :3
(this is not the final list i want to do and add more to each map)
(((and maybe some extra special bits later if possible ;3)))
the vertigo catch btw
upbeat egret
also i made custom moon models for everything finally so if you use ship windows you get to see cool shit
wary edge
i dont get why you would put cold shit in the mod
wet quartz
extra fire exit back on hydro lets go
upbeat egret
i have bad news as to where its located
wary edge
you could put it slightly underwater
adamance does that i think?
well, only when its flooded kinda
upbeat egret
anyways
upbeat egret
this one has like 7
upbeat egret
i should change things then shouldnt i
wary edge
i basically have a couple checks where if two nodes are too close to eachother, i only use one of em, and i get rid of nodes near the doors (all only for the meteors to land, nothing actually changes on the moon)
oo that water looks cool
just incase theres a different type of node you're talking about
upbeat egret
man ofc the one time an old bird spawns it doesnt turn on
upbeat egret
they take like 4pm or smthn
i think its a random hour
some say 1
some say 3
i had one turn on at 4 and another turn on at 7
wary edge
it does sound random yeah
upbeat egret
ok yeah its 6 and hes not on
f
i think
i went overboard
on the tulip snakes
wha tthe fuck
ok so @wary edge i think you were right i need more ai nodes
😭
wary edge
thanks 
wary edge
ok so <@514120543046336516> i think you were right i need more ai nodes
starlancer is gonna bug you to put AI nodes near your entrances btw
wary edge
Why
for enemy escape to work
like you said, hangout spots for enemies, and also where they can spawn i think?
upbeat egret
Yeah but I don’t see why I’d need like 30-40
wary edge
i think 20~ is a good number actually, vanilla just has a bunch
upbeat egret
Wack
wary edge
for me it doesnt matter since my weather takes whatever u think is a good number
upbeat egret
I just wanted specific nest spots on collateral
wary edge
ah fair
@silk gorge would know exactly what u need in terms of where the nodes need to be for enemy escape
echo gate
Doesn't EnemyEscape add a node itself to entrances?
wary edge
if it does then nvm, but last time i checked, which was like a week ago i think it didnt
upbeat egret
<@244591333866602496> would know exactly what u need in terms of where the nodes...
I would also just like more info on ai nodes in general
wary edge
it uses ai nodes to spawn outside hazards
like quick sand aparently
that might be it actually
oh though theres a difference between AInode and OutsideAiNode
wary edge
hmm
AINodes are inside nodes
so idc about them
and neither should you
OutsideAINodes seem to only generate hazards
im reading the code for that rn
echo gate
if it does then nvm, but last time i checked, which was like a week ago i think ...
Yeah looking at some custom moons, EnemyEscape adds it's own nodes to Entrances
wary edge
okay yeah, OutsideAINodes adds nests for enemies, and adds places like hazards for quicksand etc
i dont think its what enemies use to route though, cant see any code for that
upbeat egret
i dont think its what enemies use to route though, cant see any code for that
Weird
I wonder why all the fucking tulip snakes just chose one node and surrounded it
upbeat egret
Question to anyone who has been to devastation
Do you like it? Does it fit in with the rest of mod? Is it fun and provide unique gameplay compared with the rest?
Im trying to make it like actually good
upbeat egret
new lighting goes crazy though
^currently how it looks
minor patio
I think the dust or fog or whatever makes it look a bit too bright, but it has charm
wanton valley
i really like the moon but yeah I agree with monty
wary edge
Not red enough
silk gorge
i dont think its what enemies use to route though, cant see any code for that
Enemies use the nodes as patrol/search markers. OutsideAINodes function for enemy spawn, map object spawn, and hazard/quicksand spawn. I do place a single node at each entrance, but @upbeat egret you'll want to have at least a few nodes near the entrances so that enemies can properly path away from the entrance if StarlancerEnemyEscape is active.
You can duplicate a node and swap the tag to SpawnDenialPoint (or somesuch) and it'll create a small zone at runtime preventing enemies from spawning (useful near entrances), but there's unfortunately not much to be done to narrow down nest positions short of coding something yourself
wary edge
i mean in terms of nests just give anything u dont want to spawn a spawndenialpoint no?
upbeat egret
Didn’t realize it was prop spawn
That would make sense as to why I could never see anything
wary edge
prop spawn?
wary edge
ah thats what u mean by prop
wary edge
thought u were talking scrap, thats what the game calls props lol
silk gorge
i mean in terms of nests just give anything u dont want to spawn a spawndenialpo...
I forgot for a sec how lootbugs choose their nests but yea actually, they just pick the closest node to their spawn location as a nest
upbeat egret
And a spawn denial point only blocks spawning of enemies right?
wary edge
also i imagine u need extra stuff for trees big rocks and pumpkin
otherwise you'd have trees in desert maps
upbeat egret
Not props or hazards?
silk gorge
And a spawn denial point only blocks spawning of enemies right?
Unsure
upbeat egret
otherwise you'd have trees in desert maps
It’s just a list
wary edge
ah, i guess a whitelist would also work
upbeat egret
I’ve been deliberately leaving them out
wary edge
kinda uggo
upbeat egret
Specifically because I didn’t want them to spawn in sides of mountains and under the i e
Ice
But if it works like that
I could def add them
silk gorge
otherwise you'd have trees in desert maps
Every level decides map objects for themselves
upbeat egret
thought u were talking scrap, thats what the game calls props lol
Also Wes and I found out how it works it’s different
wary edge
most scrap
lusty lion
*most* scrap
wrong way
wary edge
Also Wes and I found out how it works it’s different
yeah ik i was told a while back
upbeat egret
yeah ik i was told a while back
Fuckery
upbeat egret
also cant wait to see how that fucks with interiors
Im p sure it calculates after the interior does
And it seems to use interior amounts
This results in the outside not having much scrap
I can only manage getting 1 to spawn at a time
wary edge
it results in an overall thinning of scrap from both sides then?
which is what i mean, fucks with interiors
upbeat egret
No thinning from the outside
upbeat egret
Because the interior does all of its shit first
So yeah like outside virtually has nothing
wary edge
well the inside has more nodes to spawn scrap thats why
if you placed a bunch of nodes outside, more than inside, you'd see the inside be completely dead of scrap
atleast thats how i imagine it works
lusty lion
nah
upbeat egret
I might have to manually place scrap around the edges for the hoarding bugs to play with
lusty lion
findobjectsoftype works top to bottom in scene hierarchy
upbeat egret
if you placed a bunch of nodes outside, more than inside, you'd see the inside b...
No
lusty lion
dungeongenerator is higher than most scene objects
wary edge
lusty lion
who knows
upbeat egret
Alr I’ll check that later
lusty lion
thats my guess based on what i know
wary edge
that's a weird way of doing things zeekers but i guess he didnt intend to put scrap outside
silk gorge
try putting your scrap spawns at the top of your hierarchy
Wait what, hierarchy order actually does something???
lusty lion
when using findobjectsbytype yeah
upbeat egret
Wait what, hierarchy order actually does something???
Im also completely shocked
lusty lion
its gotta look in some sort of order
wary edge
i think a lot of code zeekers uses is based on hierarchy doesnt he?
silk gorge
when using findobjectsbytype yeah
Ahh okay
lusty lion
cuz its iterating thru the list obtained in findobjectsoftype the order would matter
maybe
upbeat egret
Dude if this works I’m gonna blow up
Because then this moon would be everything I would have ever wanted
It’s already like 3/4ths of the way there
wary edge
my worry is since it still does take from the overall list of scrap, people would complain to say, starlancer, that his interior spawns jack
lusty lion
oh it would
upbeat egret
Nah I’ll just put let’s say like 8 nodes outside and then add 8 to the min and max
wary edge
im not sure if theres a way from the moon's side but decreasing the size of the interior simultaneously probably would balance things out
lusty lion
custom code could do it pretty easy
lusty lion
im not sure if theres a way from the moon's side but decreasing the size of the ...
The moon does control the interior size
upbeat egret
Nah I’ll just put let’s say like 8 nodes outside and then add 8 to the min and m...
Would this not work?
lusty lion
Would this not work?
Sounds probable
wary edge
Would this not work?
kinda? its a bit of a weird solution in my head
since u want people to explore the outside
i recommend going with decreasing interior size
upbeat egret
Maybe both?
wary edge
thats also good ye
upbeat egret
The main problem I’m seeing is that hoarding bugs spawning outside add to the power level of inside
So if there are too many outside, the inside will have nothing
wary edge
im not sure how you do this, are you spawning them outside or placing them outside?
upbeat egret
Granted this shouldn’t be that much of an issue due to the fact that the moon is supposed to be D-C tier
upbeat egret
im not sure how you do this, are you spawning them outside or placing them outsi...
Spawning
Is it possible to manually place them????
wary edge
didnt know u could have em spawn outside tbh
wary edge
Is it possible to manually place them????
pretty sure thats how @slim moss did his stuff on asteroid
not just asteroid actually
he spammed placing monster outside
upbeat egret
didnt know u could have em spawn outside tbh
Literally just add them to the list
wary edge
Literally just add them to the list
thats more versatile than i expected of this game tbh
upbeat egret
Need code
Weird
Im gonna stay away from that option for now as I have no idea how I’d do that
desert dagger
The main problem I’m seeing is that hoarding bugs spawning outside add to the po...
StarlancerAIFix?
wary edge
the value for a moon's total power isn't read only right?
upbeat egret
thats more versatile than i expected of this game tbh
I’d assume it’s batbys work
upbeat egret
StarlancerAIFix?
Ai fix doesn’t change that I don’t think?
lusty lion
I’d assume it’s batbys work
nah
upbeat egret
It just allows them to properly function outside
lusty lion
the value for a moon's total power isn't read only right?
Nothing is read only
wary edge
thats nice
a bandaid solution could just be for everytime your yippee's spawn, increase the total power level by whatever the yipee added, but then your problem isnt actually gone cuz the yipees would still probably take up the spawn roulette
upbeat egret
the value for a moon's total power isn't read only right?
What does this mean
upbeat egret
a bandaid solution could just be for everytime your yippee's spawn, increase the...
Oh
That’s what you mean
upbeat egret
a bandaid solution could just be for everytime your yippee's spawn, increase the...
The issue i see from this is that it wouldn’t ever have a cap
slim moss
Daytime spawns
lusty lion
LE
upbeat egret
While that sounds amazing and I’d love to be surrounded by a thousand hoarding bugs, lower end pcs will explode
wary edge
Daytime spawns
i thought the coilhead was always guaranteed, thats funny
wary edge
While that sounds amazing and I’d love to be surrounded by a thousand hoarding b...
you overestimate how much the game spawns every spawning cycle
upbeat egret
Bc there’s nothing stopping it from going up if you do that solution
wary edge
atleast for what devestation will be
upbeat egret
you overestimate how much the game spawns every spawning cycle
You’re correct
upbeat egret
atleast for what devestation will be
(Collateral)
wary edge
ah right, collateral
upbeat egret
Devastation is the harder than Titan explode yourself moon
Which actually spawns like 5 enemies every cycle
And holy fuck it gets really bad
Really fast
wary edge
thats fun
upbeat egret
It used to use baboon hawks as the primary outside enemy too