(GENERIC INTERIORS V5.0.0) Generic’s Generic stuff

[open current]

👀

[stone cliff]

Baboon Hawk PTSD in Aquatis ngl

[upbeat egret]

having an actual threat is nice

[open current]

fun fact, yelling at baboon hawks does nothing

in game code it isnt programmed

but staring at them is what scares them off

[upbeat egret]

ew i found an old clip of vertigo

the fog is so bad

[open current]

ew?

oh

[stone cliff]

Yeah... Masa feels like a fool for yelling and screaming at them like a primal on steroids..

[open current]

lol

[upbeat egret]

no texturing either

[open current]

i have a clip of me telling my friends

my friend died to the dropship mid convo

[upbeat egret]

am i the only one who didnt yell at them

[open current]

i didnt really yell i just

talked to them

like "yo wsp"

[upbeat egret]

sure i talk to creatures like i talk to my dog but i didnt really do it for scaring them off

[stone cliff]

Masa YELLED

[open current]

but I guess the reason they believe that yelling = scare is because they would stare at them to yell at them

[upbeat egret]

lmao i found this while trying to find a clip of me talking to the animals

[open current]

neh eh "oh shit"

[stone cliff]

Lmao

[open current]

my friend after falling off of a cliff whilst running from a thumper [he has a shovel and 3 stun grenades]

[wary edge]

you sure? the infernius mod moon creator doesnt use that but has some creators outside, though ig they're really buggy

[stone cliff]

You know what though? Imagine if someone made a mod that creates all interior mobs but for the purpose of functioning outside

[upbeat egret]

thats why

cus its buggy

[open current]

he had a bunker spier outside once

it waws

twerking and never moved

[wary edge]

he has a spawn of probably supposed to be one nut cracker next to the ship in one of his moons, i happened to see 15 nut crackers towards 8pm

[open current]

couldnt even hurt me

[stone cliff]

Outside Bunker Spider always chills next to the ship

[open current]

yeah

every monster stands near ship

[stone cliff]

True, even the Giants/Dogs

[upbeat egret]

i found the clip i used as background for the custom moons

bc im too lazy to make one

[stone cliff]

Maybe its a vanilla bug

[open current]

giants got reprogrammed but uh

holy shit i hate giants on etern

bro was CAMPING

each

time

[open current]

we walked out

he was staring

[upbeat egret]

giants just suck

[open current]

fr

they cant decide whether to actually listen to code

i mean

they even suck in actually being good

its hard for one to ever kill you unless it surprises you

like ambush after exit

or a clip i have of uh

a player getting spawn killed

lemem find it

[stone cliff]

Maybe next update will fix the outside AI,because of people hating on Giants

[upbeat egret]

i finally found a clip of me talking to animals

[open current]

frame 1...

frame 2....

[stone cliff]

Boomba jumpscare

[open current]

i met a boomba once and only once

[upbeat egret]

i screamed very loud

[open current]

my friend vanished that day

brb

[upbeat egret]

ive met it a couple of times

like this one

[stone cliff]

Also yeah Masa talks to creatures like that too but the only thing that comes out of Masa's mouth when seeing a hoarderbug is yippee

(While rushing at them with murderous intent)

[upbeat egret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1018316441587552388/1190460965662236822/catt.gif?ex=65a1e22b&is=658f6d2b&hm=98125a3a12272a9651d04f877a7fbbd52607fde4068380fb0791690479446bd6&

how could you

i give them my scrap

[stone cliff]

They become the scrap

Sell Enemy mod is a addiction

It drives you to new levels of aggression

Its come to the point where all the yippie bug can say is yip before theyre part of the quota

Masa needs help 🥲

[upbeat egret]

i got a small question

how do you guys feel about the cacti

in vertigo

[wary edge]

i no no wanna

[upbeat egret]

what

[wary edge]

sharp

oh you meant how they look

they could be longer

[upbeat egret]

nah

i meant like about the whole way they work

bump into one and it hurts

[wary edge]

oh you did mean that, me likey

[stone cliff]

Cactus tbh

Makes sense

Its not like, overwhelmimg too tbh. Just requires you to actual think about your pathing a bit (use 1% brain instead of 0% brain)

Outside of the yeehaw parkouring

[upbeat egret]

lmao i remember my friend got soo pissed because he was sneaking away from a dog and bumped into one and died

blehhhh

[stone cliff]

Skill issue tbh lmaooo

Cactus is the reaper

[open current]

bac

[stone cliff]

Oooh, nice. Actually, you know what could maybe be a good further indpiration for that? La Noscea from Final Fantasy 14

[upbeat egret]

what

[stone cliff]

For environmental/flora

[upbeat egret]

what is that

la noscea

[stone cliff]

Its a region in Final Fantasy. Hold on Masa will get a picture in a bit!

[open current]

Nobody: LC_API modded server browser:

[upbeat egret]

blehhhh

[stone cliff]

This is the general aesthetic of 'La Noscea'

[wary edge]

Is that not the endgame gta 5 cutscene

No wait it looks slightly different

The tower

[stone cliff]

No. That's a coastal region from Final Fantasy 14. Yarr harr pirate/carribean esque

The first picture has creatures that would definitely not be in GTA 5, haha

[upbeat egret]

i hate it

[stone cliff]

What's wrong with it? :o

[upbeat egret]

ugly

boring

[stone cliff]

It'll look better with colors!

[upbeat egret]

bleghhh

[north rivet]

oh hey that's the moon clip

[stone cliff]

Oh. Just thought of another inspiration maybe.

Maybe?

Bridges connecting between the cliffs, allowing travel between the deep waters. Maybe they're Vow bridges too

[upbeat egret]

For the last time I cannot do vow bridges on LE 😭

And I don’t want to uses many references because that takes away the originality of everything

[stone cliff]

Oof, didnt know about the vow bridges- And look, Masa's just trying to show references because Masa currently sucks at explaining, sorry 😭

Its a slow day but Masa's still trying to help

[scenic pond]

Didn't LE add dll scripting (whatever that means)

Like just a couple days ago?

[upbeat egret]

Did it?

I dunno

Also I don’t know what the fuck to do for that :3

[sweet python]

Felt

Trying to design enemies and with no references it's fucking difficult haha

[north rivet]

even with dll scripting, it'd be really hard or maybe impossible to make a vow bridge. can't just use the bridge from vow, because i don't think that's available and also has its collapse animation specifically made for vow. the vow bridge collapse isn't physics, it's pre-animated, so you'd have to do that too for every single bridge

[upbeat egret]

yuh

[fluid grove]

I've got a question, is this mod still WIP?

[upbeat egret]

i mean its released but im still adding more over time

its released with 4 moons currently

[fluid grove]

nice

[upbeat egret]

speaking of i should probably make a new like

post for this

cus i think it just shows icebound old

🤢

[fluid grove]

interesting

[stone cliff]

Has there been a report of the dropship deciding to say bye bye and clip into the floor, or float up in the sky?

[compact crown]

hi guys how stable is this mode at the moment? 🙂

[wary edge]

Pretty stable

[upbeat egret]

Yuh

[compact crown]

Thanks Gonna add this to our mob list in next gaming session >3

[stone cliff]

You think of Harbun btw. Found the mod.

Though it feels different, although concepts are definitely very similar.

[open current]

no im thinking of callisto

the mod u suggested me in my mod suggestion

under-water moon thing

[loud crown]

Callisto is visually interesting but enemies on there have some serious pathing issues and the enemy spawn nodes have some spots that are just, what?

[upbeat egret]

What

[wary edge]

What

[torpid grove]

LMFAO

It genuinely took me so long to figure out what wrong with the pic

[harsh forge]

Holy shit lol

[wary edge]

I'm confused

Wait

I see it

Tf is this wheres waldo looking aah pic

[north rivet]

"they should make a place thats like so mountainous that you can't see the bottom of the pits" -my friend on icebound
"vertigo doesn't count you can see the bottom" -my friend still on icebound

"ow. ow. oW. OW." -my friend after touching the vertigo cacti

[upbeat egret]

Deal

[buoyant fiber]

is mod compatible with advanced company

cant land on icebound

@upbeat egret

[upbeat egret]

idek what an advanced company is 😭

if there are any incompatability issues it is probably due to LE as Generic moons uses LE to function

if youre having problems replace lethal expansion with lethal expansion core

[buoyant fiber]

using core

[buoyant fiber]

very popular mod

[torpid grove]

i dont see what the issue is in the logs

I use AC and it works, I just dont see what your exact issue is

[torpid grove]

You just can't land on it, do you get disconnected? Or sent to Secret Labs instead or something

[buoyant fiber]

no its stuck on random seed

so I cant land on it

[torpid grove]

Pretty much all mods should be compatible with advanced company (except a couple that overwrite basic things)

[azure sorrel]

If you're take requests to create new moons, can you check my ideas? (though they are based on Outer Wilds, so spoilers for this game if you haven't played)

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1202662861604651018
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1202664314444578886
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1202666129831501834

[buoyant fiber]

@torpid grove

full log

[azure sorrel]

And I also found such an idea, it also sounds very cool

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1200106474823766056

[torpid grove]

youre playing with someone right?

[buoyant fiber]

nope

by my self lol

[torpid grove]

Not trying to join into anyone elses game or anything ok

@buoyant fiber uninstall betterLobbies, advancedCompany just does what it does but without bugs

[buoyant fiber]

ok

btw

other moons work

[torpid grove]

oh... weird

hey @upbeat egret is Icebound supposed to be labelled as vanilla?

also @buoyant fiber are you using some kind of new LLL update by any chance?

That lets you see dungeon chance ahead of time?

[buoyant fiber]

dont know

remove BL and AC

and it works

[lusty lion]

no

[torpid grove]

whats BL?

[buoyant fiber]

better lobbies

[torpid grove]

have you tried just removing BL?

and it doesnt work?

[buoyant fiber]

now im doing just BL

[torpid grove]

wait so have you tried just AC?

[buoyant fiber]

ok problem is AC

[torpid grove]

im like 99% sure the problem isnt AC

because I played on icebound with AC today

[buoyant fiber]

well there is a 3rd mod interfering

im assuming

[upbeat egret]

?

[torpid grove]

i think the logs say Icebound/Frozen Lake has a "vanilla" label?

[upbeat egret]

🤷‍♂️

if icebounds labeled as vanilla everything else in my mod probably is

[mellow eagle]

try to remove only BL, but keep AC

i assume they can conflict as they're both lobby solutions

[buoyant fiber]

I did

problem still happened

[torpid grove]

ok cool

[buoyant fiber]

how is that cool

[torpid grove]

its good to know

[torpid grove]

Do you still have the log from when you were testing AC without BL?

[azure sorrel]

@upbeat egret, can you check it and my message below?

[upbeat egret]

well for the spider one you listed as of now i dont think thats possible

i had creature moons planned but without lethal escape im not sure it will work

and even with lethal escape certain creatures just

work weirdly

[buoyant fiber]

not rn give me like 20 min

[torpid grove]

All good, just wondering if this is really an AC issue

[buoyant fiber]

actually ima send it rn

[torpid grove]

I finished looking at the logs you sent! What happened was almost definitely some kind of ACLobby/BetterLobbies mixup. I just don't know why it would only happen on Icebound

[torpid grove]

AC actually does lobbies better than BL, just because it syncronizes more and typically has less bugs

thanks! :D

[azure sorrel]

It's a pity, but okay. What about those three ideas? Or are their mechanics too complicated?

[upbeat egret]

ill look at them

im taking a small break from lc modding

[buoyant fiber]

@torpid grove

think I figuried out the issue maybne

[torpid grove]

i think so too

[buoyant fiber]

I put my AC config minimum scrap for icebound to 116

and my maxmium was 16 as well

[upbeat egret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147608357906174076/1194690080963575859/42B91449-9BDE-4E0A-96C6-0E2520C4E4B6.gif?ex=65b144d7&is=659ecfd7&hm=28b23b5acf6070186872787151ecf65240e0de506f468898d323fd6adca89993&

im going to violently explode

[buoyant fiber]

same

[torpid grove]

That could definitely cause a problem, yeah :P

[buoyant fiber]

ima blame it on zeekers

[torpid grove]

❤️

[fluid grove]

💀

[buoyant fiber]

yep it works now

[torpid grove]

good that its not a bug that someone has to fix hehe

[buoyant fiber]

yea sorry for wasting ur time

and hardys

[torpid grove]

np! 😋

[azure sorrel]

Okay, thanks for your attention!

[north rivet]

oh my god please make it so baboon hawks can't get into your ship on vertigo. it's genuinely completely preventing me from going to vertigo

[stone cliff]

Callisto is definitely different from Anchorage, tested it yesterday. Harbun is definitely more identical. ^^

[stone cliff]

Yeah, Masa kind of held off on the idea as well for now because of the whole pathing issue and third party mod dependance for it. Once it becomes more available though, Masa would love to see a spider themed moon though.

Almost commissioned it lmao, but yeah exterior pathing go brrr

[willow monolith]

Damn, was going through the logs and was going to mention this a few minutes before ya found it, but I had to suddenly step away.

I saw it on line 6359 and was going to ask about it

[lusty lion]

it is "supposed" to have that label based on the way it all works yeah

unfortunately

[lusty lion]

.

[torpid grove]

that IS kind of dumb lol :P good to know though.

[torpid grove]

erm, notepad seems to be cutting the line count down, can you give me something i could cntrl-f and find that line with :P

[willow monolith]

[Error : Unity Log] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: 'minValue' cannot be greater than maxValue.

[torpid grove]

oh!!!

lol i see! thank uuu

[willow monolith]

I had to go help in the kitchen and I came back to it being found lol

And after combing over the whole log, too XD

[torpid grove]

we luv u for trying to help

[willow monolith]

No big deal, only took a few minutes

[pearl stump]

This is partially because LethalEscape isn't applying the "isOutside" tag to anything not spawned by its mod, something I've just discussed with the dev and will hopefully be added soon

[upbeat egret]

wacky

[pearl stump]

That's the reason why Infernis and Etern have weird ||spider|| and ||nutcracker|| behaviors respectively, they're trying to navigate back to the inside and failing spectacularly

[upbeat egret]

i wonder if i could get talk to the lethal escape guy and see if i can get something to just have natural spawning outside creatures without needing lethal escape

bc i just want the one thing outside

[pearl stump]

Possibly

Ik I want him to add the feature so I can use AdvancedCompany's custom spawns and do wacky things like Coilheads outside on Orion, or all enemies sometimes outside on SecretLabs

But currently they don't, uh, work

They just form cult circles

[upbeat egret]

yeah

dude when i was fucking around without lethal escape i made loot bugs fucking spin and dance with each other

it was so cute

[pearl stump]

Haha

[fluid grove]

me when the moons are generic

[open current]

secret labs works for you in advanced company?

[pearl stump]

Mhm

[open current]

hm

doesnt show up for me

it just... shows generic moons moons

[pearl stump]

You using LECore + LLL?

[open current]

ill have to check that modpack again

[polar umbra]

question

how many moons are in this pack?

btw please pin the main link XD
i had to scroll up since i somewhat cant search the mod earlier. tho now it shows after i opened the link here. must be my internet messing around

[upbeat egret]

I don’t have the perms to pin

💔

[upbeat egret]

Currently 4

[polar umbra]

i think you can ask a moderator?

[upbeat egret]

Probably

I don’t like bothering people though 😔

[polar umbra]

btw any conflicting mods that doesnt work with this pack yet?

[upbeat egret]

Considering that this uses LE anything that conflicts with LE doesn’t work with this

But nothing should conflict with this mod specifically

[polar umbra]

oh thanks. ill test it out. since im using like 150+ mods atm.

[upbeat egret]

Jesus

[polar umbra]

trying to test the limits

to make it both fun and horrifying

[upbeat egret]

My friend red hosted a modpack with 220

It didn’t work that well

[polar umbra]

conflicting mods right?

[upbeat egret]

Kinda?

[polar umbra]

i know that feeling of "not working"

desyncs and such

[upbeat egret]

It was also just really laggy

[upbeat egret]

Me too

I mod fallout 4

💔

[polar umbra]

the modpack i currently use doesnt seem to have problems. can play till we reach like 4k quota

with 10 people

[upbeat egret]

I mean hypothetically

If you wanted to play infinitely you could get all the mods that extend the limit

Like dynamic limit or buyable day thing mod

I don’t remember name

[polar umbra]

my group tends to die a lot. but i wont add those. so they would feel the "need" to go out to the dungeon

[upbeat egret]

My group also tends to die a lot

I feel like I’m the only one who lives in mine 😭

[polar umbra]

because if I do. they wont even bother to get out of the ship and just watch the monitors

[upbeat egret]

And I’m horribly stupid

[polar umbra]

meanwhile. ill go out and duke it out with the monsters with a shovels

[upbeat egret]

My man

🤝

[polar umbra]

since monsters tend to get pissed with me for some reason

one time we played. all 6 thumpers went after me ignoring everyone else

[upbeat egret]

If it was on a custom moon sometimes the creatures just target the host

[polar umbra]

killed all 6 plus the rogue spiders

[upbeat egret]

Coilheads are the worst in that regard

[polar umbra]

was like 5 hp left

then 2 coil heads went after me. forced me to go out

[upbeat egret]

💔

[polar umbra]

this was on vanilla btw

not even modded

[upbeat egret]

Wacky

[polar umbra]

6 thumpers, 2 spiders, 2 coilheads

in one dungeon with closed doors at the entrance

i died tho

not from the monsters

from the freaking lightning

btw how large are the maps on this mod?

[upbeat egret]

uhhhh

icebound isnt too big

its kinda small to medium

hydro is like medium to big

vertigo is big

[polar umbra]

does it come with it's custom interiors?

[upbeat egret]

devastation is big but it has fire exits in every direction so youre fine

[upbeat egret]

no

just the moons

[polar umbra]

oh cool

[upbeat egret]

i might take my hand on interiors once LLL gets documentation

[polar umbra]

but you will add custom interiors in the future?

[upbeat egret]

🤷‍♂️

never done it before

so ill see how it goes

[polar umbra]

oh cool

[north rivet]

maybe i could help

[upbeat egret]

blehhhh

[stone cliff]

Looking goooood

Liking how the terrain is made

[upbeat egret]

done for tn i thinks

i got a fire exit down, main entrance planned, and multiple routes planned out

[torpid grove]

How do you get to that right most one?

[upbeat egret]

im gonna add the bridges and stuff tomorrow

[wary edge]

Waow

Idk where you're gonna fit a bridge on og icebound

But gl

[merry shuttle]

I'm having an issue where moons aren't in the game at all...

I have the dependencies

[upbeat egret]

do you have the mod installed?

in reality its probably either another mod has a same name as one of these moons, or you have another mod that conflicts with lethal expansion

[torpid grove]

you could try using lethalExpansionCore?

[merry shuttle]

I do

[wary edge]

I tried another one of the moons for the first time ever, vertigo

[torpid grove]

Just checked really quickly, do you have BOTH LEC and LE? Apparently there’s an issue like that which happens when only LEC is installed

[wary edge]

Honestly it's trying too hard to be an icebound copy, wasn't a fan of vertigo

Also it was meh going there eclipsed, dog got stuck on the pipe

[merry shuttle]

I have both

[torpid grove]

Enabled right? :P just checking

[merry shuttle]

Yes

[torpid grove]

Damn

[torpid grove]

Nah vertigo is fine, really only thing I’m not sure about is the time it takes to pick up stuff from the dropship

[upbeat egret]

?

[torpid grove]

I bought something while in orbit and then landed, and as I tried to get to the spot where the drops landed, the dropship already flew away

[upbeat egret]

i could move it closer

[torpid grove]

Maybe just a skill issue on my part though? :P

[upbeat egret]

i could add a ladder to that big rock and make it drop up on top

[upbeat egret]

probably

ive been fine with it

[torpid grove]

Hmmmm ok then

[torpid grove]

I did speed up the default drop ship speed by 20%

[upbeat egret]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-cat-ringtone-stare-surprise-gif-25173807

[loud crown]

I do agree the trek from the ship to the entrance is a bit TOO long, I think adjusting some of the pipe paths would help out a ton (at least one side being adjusted would be nice, probably the one that DOESN'T have a fire exit to route to)

I like the dynamic the map has of the shortest path requires items and/or good jump timings to clear it, as well as the funny lil cacti

[scenic pond]

seems like the footprint appearance rate is a little high

unless thats just how it is in vanilla

btw the fire exit on this map is super cool

[wary edge]

I think its a bit calmer than that on vanilla, it's hard to tell with how dark and foggy rend and dine are

[upbeat egret]

cant control that 😔

its just a check box on my end

[scenic pond]

Ah rip

Probably better to have it like this than none at all though

[upbeat egret]

maybe but that would be annoying af due to having to redo all the terrain for it

[upbeat egret]

yuh

?

hate it

💔

[wary edge]

Love your child

Even if its not icebound

[upbeat egret]

why are you a trial mod

[wary edge]

#announcements I try my best

Please be gentle

[upbeat egret]

@wet quartz i found the solution to your hydro flood problem 💀

[willow monolith]

When you try to fly to Hydro, but you instead type in Dryho

[upbeat egret]

anyways i am actually working on smth

[torpid grove]

maybe make the pipe part (the one that starts behind the long lookin stalagmite in the pic and ends at the fire exit) connect with the pipe part in the bottom left of this pic?

that way heading to the fire extit is HARDER

[north rivet]

BACK TO THE SEA WITH YOU

[torpid grove]

moses when he forgets to turn off red sea mode

[upbeat egret]

blehhhh

[merry shuttle]

Pretty sure there's an issue where moons won't show up in terminal if you have lethal level loader

[upbeat egret]

🤷‍♂️

not my fault if its a LLL problem

cus then the issue is between LLL and LE

i dont make the framework i just model the moons 😭

ive been ruined

the one pipeless map is getting pipes

@torpid grove i remember you asked about the logo for hydro and Im getting my boyfriend (who is an actual like designer) to do a logo for it

[oblique hare]

Vertigo may have monster boundary issues, we had baboon hawks go through the wall of the ship to kill the players inside

[upbeat egret]

happens on every moon of mine im afraid

[upbeat egret]

sign

[upbeat egret]

made the water a bit better too

[north rivet]

one day the hydro plants will get textures

[polar umbra]

whenever we go hydro. my group tend to go to that right side of the area and try to swim over

can you add a ladder there

my first experience was the same

i went there and swam over

lost a lot of time trying to get there

cuz we cannot see due to the foggy nature of the moon

then we get greeted by a lot of giants in the evening

[upbeat egret]

They do

[upbeat egret]

Alright

[north rivet]

are they not flat textures anymore?

[upbeat egret]

They do but it’s so small I think they probably look like it

[north rivet]

yeah i think you should scale up alot of the textures

[polar umbra]

kinda funny when my group went to those side. they forced swam over the right side and the left side of the platform

[north rivet]

the diamondplate metal flooring for instance

[upbeat egret]

Oh that’s intentionally small

[polar umbra]

they looked for a ladder but i said only the middle bridge has the only way to get to the entrance

[upbeat egret]

Like specifically that texture

[upbeat egret]

If I can’t do a ladder I’ll do a ramp to where the fire exit is

[polar umbra]

the fire exit was also near the main entrance?

i didnt notice that due to the fog

[upbeat egret]

It’s upstairs

Essentially the main building has actual like fire exit stairs to the right that leads to the roof

[polar umbra]

ohh

[upbeat egret]

And then there’s a fire exit door up on top

[polar umbra]

can we have less fog btw?

we cannot see anything when we went there even when it was a clear weather

[upbeat egret]

You can see the door kinda

[polar umbra]

ohh

[upbeat egret]

?

[polar umbra]

question. why is there fog in clear weather?

[upbeat egret]

There’s fog in every map I believe

Just toned down

I wanted it like this because I’m mimicking another map I made in a different game

The map is kinda a reference but also not really

[polar umbra]

the ice one is fine. hydro we cannot see anything

[upbeat egret]

Weird

What’s your gamma?

[polar umbra]

60%?

65% ish

[upbeat egret]

Oh mines max

[polar umbra]

lol no wonder

why lol

[upbeat egret]

Isn’t max default or smth

I didn’t touch it at all

And it’s like that

[polar umbra]

its 50% on normal

default is 50%

[upbeat egret]

I’ll have to double check in the morning

[upbeat egret]

So your game doesn’t look like this?

[polar umbra]

the hydro one looks cool due to the snowy weather tho its a bit too much in the evening

nah

[upbeat egret]

Weirddddd

[polar umbra]

gamma is too much. colors doesnt show that way

[upbeat egret]

Maybe that’s why my water is literally white

Am I dumb 😔

I’m gonna lose my mind if I have to redo all the lighting

[polar umbra]

always set to 50% which is the default white line for testing

was wondering why im going to a moon like it was the dark realm

funny enough that Ice moon was kinda okay since it seems fitting that its heavy snow during afternoon to evening

the devastation map was kinda funny tho

the fire exit was just in front of the ship

which we didnt see at first

we went to the main entrance and looted till we went to a fire exit which sent us to the front of the ship

we died from the mimic and the giant but we had a Blind Dog as a Trophy after killing it

we brought it into the ship

[upbeat egret]

Funnily enough there’s 4

But that close one was really just a goof

I made a map somewhere

[polar umbra]

well no one realised it till we went out of the ship

[wary edge]

best

[polar umbra]

we went to the north and went out to the hidden fire exit

[wary edge]

you good? water shouldnt be that colour...

[polar umbra]

realistically its Mud color

if you look at it from a plane

except certain parts of the ocean

it goes darker

[mental summit]

you should shade smooth the rocks tbh they look kinda odd

also I notice my peformance on hydro kinda blows

[upbeat egret]

I’m so confused as to how the lagging happens because my friend was lagging on vertigo but nothing else, you’re lagging on hydro, and I’m lagging on specifically Titan

Like not even any modded moons

Just Titan

[fluid grove]

hydro and vertigo are both laggy

[stone cliff]

Masa's been trying to figure out what the heck is going on too with this random lag

Its gotta be the interiors right? Because the outside never changes

[upbeat egret]

Man I have no idea

Maybe it’s the lights?

Hydro and vertigo both have a decent amount of lights

[fluid grove]

dunno, I kinda used to think it was because it was just too big, but I'm already using a mod that limits the rendering view distance and it still lags, so yea, it's probably the light?

[upbeat egret]

All the maps are the same size

Technically

Because for terrain you just get givin a big square

And you can’t lesson the size

[stone cliff]

Secret minecraft

[mental summit]

could be the texture files

also uhh you shoyuld shade the rocks smooth

they looook kinda weird

[upbeat egret]

Which rocks

[mental summit]

the ones on hydro

[mental summit]

ive noticed that a good bit of modded moons have worse performance

[upbeat egret]

Oh I just got those same rocks from the pack I got the trees from

[mental summit]

could be

[upbeat egret]

Idk I’m not a professional there’s a good chance I’m something wrong

[mental summit]

they have flat shading makin them look kinda odd

[upbeat egret]

Holy shit tomorrow makes a month of unity

[mental summit]

how big are the texture files

[upbeat egret]

Big I thinks

[mental summit]

thisc an be changed with a few clicks btw

[mental summit]

what are they like

[upbeat egret]

Fuck I think they are like a few thousand wide

I’d have to check on my pc

But I’m not on rn

[mental summit]

probbaly has something to do with it

[upbeat egret]

Maybe

[mental summit]

with lc you can get away with much loser reso textures

[upbeat egret]

Hydro and vertigo have a lot more texture painting than the other two

[upbeat egret]

I tried to stretch them out a bit so they fit better

They used to be like actually

[mental summit]

you can just phsically make the dementions smaller and they will fit the same

[upbeat egret]

Well I wouldn’t say realistic but like it used to look like ground

[merry shuttle]

Is this mod going to get LethalLevelLoader compatibility?

[upbeat egret]

I mean I did the tiling in unity to make them stretched

[upbeat egret]

When the documents come out, yes

[mental summit]

this is me but for actually making an interiror lol

[upbeat egret]

I’ll upload a LLL version and then stop supporting this version

I don’t think I want to maintain both

And LE isn’t getting any updates anymore I don’t think

I might not even be working anymore after I do the LLL version because moon making has become complicated for me

I like doing it but I just can’t stay focused anymore

Why do you think vertigo took like 2 weeks 😔

[wary edge]

Because you're an artiste?

[upbeat egret]

Nah

[mental summit]

me but with blender

[upbeat egret]

I’m just lazy and demotivated to do like anything

:3

[mental summit]

true me

[upbeat egret]

It has been neat learning unity thoogh

Though*

Never used it before this mod

Hi batby

I see you

[lusty lion]

nah

moon making gonna be so much easier within like, this month

[upbeat egret]

Nah I don’t mean like

Physically complicated

[lusty lion]

Ah, heard

[upbeat egret]

I just mean like I struggle with actually finding the reasoning to keep working

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/911705443473174599/1073639496547045386/kill.gif

I’m just silly like that

I also just like

Do other stuff

Like I make fnf stuff 😔

[lusty lion]

i gotta release this update and pivot to documentation work but ill probably have time to help you 1:1 v. soon

[upbeat egret]

I’m one of those people

[upbeat egret]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-cat-ringtone-stare-surprise-gif-25173807

Swag

[lusty lion]

I think once your setup abit better and comfortable w/ LLL you might have fun dipping your toes into programming a little

not sure if you've seen the event stuff ive been adding to LLL but

[mental summit]

programming

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1030499053869469826.webp?size=48&name=NeverEndingAgony&quality=lossless

[upbeat egret]

Dude once you drop LLL im gonna go nuts

I wanna do like map randomization

[mental summit]

I just need that interior documentation for my dumb brain

[upbeat egret]

Imagine if like in vertigo there were two more pipe routes and they just were random on which one actually shows up

[lusty lion]

basically extendedlevels and extendeddungeons get given events that run when that thing happens on their specific map if its loaded

so you can do some pretty basic scripting that just gets called by these

[upbeat egret]

Swag

[lusty lion]

oh also i added custom storylog support cuz kaynetsua asked for it

[upbeat egret]

What language does unity use

Or would I need to use for this

[lusty lion]

c#

[upbeat egret]

Blegh

I have not heard promising things about c#

[lusty lion]

as someone who did not recieve a high school education nor a post high school diploma in programming, c# is very good for beginners

[upbeat egret]

Really?

I might be thinking of c++ then

[lusty lion]

everything is named pretty explicitly and a lot of the formatting it uses is consistent in a way where you can start to understand the kinda patterns of how code works to know what its doing

espicially for the kinda stuff you would want

[upbeat egret]

My school teaches a few coding classes but in order to get to python you have to take java and JavaScript

I just started the python class last week

[lusty lion]

lemme open up one of my old projects i can show you a small example

[upbeat egret]

Alr

[lusty lion]

ok very random example but like

    private void OnTriggerExit(Collider other)
    {
        if (other.CompareTag("Player"))
        {
            if (roomStatesToggle == RoomStates.Active)
                roomStatesToggle = RoomStates.Inactive;
            foreach (GameObject enemy in enemies)
            {
                enemies.Remove(enemy);
                Destroy(enemy);
            }

            // Removing "current room" from the room we're leaving.
            isCurrentRoom = false;
      ```

from one of my earlier games

[upbeat egret]

Looks very similar to just java

[lusty lion]

everything this piece of code is doing is pretty understandable just from how its named

[lusty lion]

ye

[upbeat egret]

Neat

[lusty lion]

so for example for random stuff, basically you could have a script with a List<GameObject> which you can see in the inspector, and drag your random stuff into that list. then you can add a function you've made to the "onlevelloaded" event i provide up here and your function will run when your level loads.

then in that function you could randomly pick one object from the list and disable every other objectr

[upbeat egret]

seems simple enough

[torpid grove]

C++ is a little painful but it’s useful for getting a job lol

[torpid grove]

Honestly I’m kinda not understanding :P is this code deleting the dungeon and enemies when you exit the dungeon?

[lusty lion]

oh keep in mind thats not lc related

[torpid grove]

Oh shoot, right yeah. But uuh still seems a little confusing

I think the “other” collider is confusing me

What is that?

[lusty lion]

OnTriggerExit, If the thing exiting the trigger is the Player, Set the Room to Inactive, Destroy all enemies, set that the current room is not this room

[mental summit]

I remember the other day you said you needed moon ideas

a charred / burnt / dead forest could be neat

[pearl stump]

I might need to add these again soon for some lower-level moons

[scenic pond]

They're really good, I recommend them

They're super close to the vanilla style and have fun fire exit paths

[pearl stump]

I tried em a while back and liked Hydro somewhat but was otherwise unimpressed, no offense Msrk ^^; But I've been watching development closely cuz I see the love and passion

[scenic pond]

I think most of them got refreshed, if you played v3 you'd probably have a different experience

[pearl stump]

Definitely wanna try em out

[loud crown]

I think Generic's already working on a more coastal-themed map but a burnt/charred area would be interesting to see, there's not a lot of modded moons that explore such a theme

[pearl stump]

Infernis is certainly a burnt/charred area, but if you mean more like the Wasteland biomes in like 7 Days to Die, then yeah, haven't seen that

[mental summit]

lemme google what you mean rq

ok yea I meant more like that

the 7 days to die thing

not exactly what I meant but still

Ill find an image

sorta like this

I actually took some images of a burnt / dead forest a few years ago and that popping into my head was what gave me the idea lol

[pearl stump]

Gotcha, yeah similar to Wasteland but a bit less apocalyptic and more naturally dead

[mental summit]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/burned-dead-forest-biome

basically this entire page

is the vibe im thinkin of

ofc not ultra HD like it is in it but yea lol

[upbeat egret]

I’m changing hydro a lot again

Lmao

But I’m trying to focus on less late game moons

I have one for literally every difficulty and then this new coastal one is also gonna be a medium

i mightve ruined hydro

time for the big reveal

what is my gamma

😭

oh

not too bad

yeah this is not bad

i dont see the problem

i reset my gamma to default

also to whoever said hydro had console spam i dont see it

this is it

?

can you show me what youre seeing

blehh

[polar umbra]

we played hydro with 8 people

its hard to see lol

[upbeat egret]

how

did you have a mod that makes the game darker

[polar umbra]

should be diversity

[polar umbra]

also did you add the ramps?

[upbeat egret]

not yet

im still working

[polar umbra]

its darker at 5pm

[upbeat egret]

im trying to add the pipes around the map and then the fire exit

[polar umbra]

its at least visible around that time

[upbeat egret]

oh every map gets stupid dark at 5 pm

the sun just goes behind the background cliffs

nothing i can really do

[polar umbra]

devastation is the cleanest in terms of lighting btw

[upbeat egret]

cus devestation is boooooring

[polar umbra]

i dont need my glasses in that map

it does have a lot of monsters tho

like 5 dogs and 3 giants

[upbeat egret]

but yeah its the way i design my maps with them always taking place in a bowl like area

[polar umbra]

we killed one dog by sacrificing 5 people

[upbeat egret]

i THINK the new map should be fine with that

[polar umbra]

and brought it to the ship as a trophy

[wary edge]

I love Big

Reveals

[upbeat egret]

me too

i love big

i fucking love this new logo

[polar umbra]

can we have like moons that are like between Free and Mid level?

[upbeat egret]

vertigo

unless you mean more moons like the two intermediates

which are mutiny and hydro

mutiny isnt out yet

😔

[polar umbra]

among the maps. we liked the Icebound one

[wary edge]

You have great taste my guy

[upbeat egret]

HE CAN CROSS THE BRIGE

BRIDGE

AHEUGFH

[polar umbra]

yeah he can

we encountered that

it was amusing

tho because of the mountains. you can at least use those as covers

[upbeat egret]

i made it all the way back

how

i had to swim in the water

he could just walk along like normal

[polar umbra]

yeah swim and use the mountains as covers

[wet quartz]

id have to update to v4 and try it again, been off and on my compy, but its hdrp-related console spam. gimme a bit and i can get you the log/error ive been seeing.

[upbeat egret]

alr

[polar umbra]

give your log output

[upbeat egret]

also opinions on the new map?

[polar umbra]

and mod dependency

[polar umbra]

can we swim

[upbeat egret]

no

[polar umbra]

first question lol

[upbeat egret]

lethal company sadly doesnt have swim mechanics

just trudging through the water

so youd drown before getting anywhere

[polar umbra]

with flippers from AC we can

or that mod where you get the oxygen tank

[upbeat egret]

oh fr?

i should probably add a border then

and some hidden stuff

[polar umbra]

i use lethalprogression for additional oxygen and just bruteforce the swimming without gear

put ladders or ramps for us to climb on ahaha

[mental summit]

needs more enviormental things

its very plain

thats what devistation suffers from too

[mental summit]

speaking of I had a funny screenshot from my session today

[upbeat egret]

well i mean its just the terrain rn

i still gotta do all the decorational stuff

[mental summit]

ah

[polar umbra]

they keep fighting to death

they are mortal enemies

[exotic lily]

idk if its just me, but on these three moons, im getting a LOT of fps drops, especially on vertigo

[polar umbra]

doggo still stronger tho

they need to gang up on the dog

[upbeat egret]

how is this happening 😭

i dont lag like at all im physically unable to recreate it

[polar umbra]

did you update yet?

[upbeat egret]

no

but ive never had lag

[exotic lily]

i can try and record it if you want?

[upbeat egret]

maybe?

[polar umbra]

i havent had lag either

[exotic lily]

ight two secs, lemme jump back onto the moon

[polar umbra]

and were 8 people in the map on vertigo

[upbeat egret]

my friend rhys reported lag on only hydro and everything else was fine

i lag on titan from base game but nothing else

and that one guy had the console spam

[polar umbra]

its either a mod conflic or pc issues maybe?

[exotic lily]

for me icebound is the only fine one, hydro my fps drops sometimes, but never below 30, but vertigo? god damn, goes down to 10 if i look at certain areas lmao

[upbeat egret]

only time i ever lagged was on the vr mod

[upbeat egret]

what areas do you look at to lag?

[mental summit]

base game textures are 512 btw

you said yours were in the thousands

that could help with performance not sure how much tho

[upbeat egret]

yeah i could totally downsize the quality

[exotic lily]

mainly in the direction of the main entrance, sometimes the fire exit, but not that much there

[upbeat egret]

bc i used a website to get textures

[mental summit]

what website

[upbeat egret]

ok probably an issue with the lights

[lusty lion]

you don't have to downsize btw

select the texture in your assets and you can set the export size

so it just restricts the size it exports as

[exotic lily]

well fml, i TRIED to get to some areas where it lags bad

and i got mauled by those stupid hawks lol

[upbeat egret]

oh

neat

[upbeat egret]

💔

but yeah i steal the images for textures from here

https://polyhaven.com/textures

:3

[polar umbra]

btw ask a mod to pin your link

[upbeat egret]

some are just from terrain sample asset pack though

[upbeat egret]

ill do that once i make a new like

message

[polar umbra]

or any important notes

[upbeat egret]

with screenshots

[mental summit]

they look quite HD is there a section with more low poly assets or do you just use these and compress them?

[polar umbra]

Hawks. i always kill them on sight

[upbeat egret]

i could just restrict the export size like batby said

[mental summit]

I just mean like visually

they just look very detailed

[upbeat egret]

i just stretch them

[mental summit]

wdym

[exotic lily]

i couldnt get to the areas where it fps drops bad

[polar umbra]

no hawks allowed

[mental summit]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Angel_Madeline/NoMonsters/

I use this for testing

[exotic lily]

i managed to show it going from 60 to 30, wouldve showed more but......just see for urself lmao

and yes i was watching youtube, LMAO

[upbeat egret]

these are all textures from the site

i just strech them to be more base gamey

[mental summit]

hm I guess LC shader just does a good job

[upbeat egret]

it does

it really does

[mental summit]

might have to use that for my interior...

I have no texturing skills

[mental summit]

I was not looking forward to that

now all I need is documentation for LLL interiors lol and im ready to become a workaholic on the project

[exotic lily]

@upbeat egret there be the vid, again couldnt get it to the areas where it would lag bad, but you can see it goes from 60 instantly to 30 moment i leave ship

[upbeat egret]

im gonna be honest i can barely tell

[lusty lion]

ok thanks discord

[exotic lily]

top right shows the fps

[upbeat egret]

ah

[polar umbra]

btw

[upbeat egret]

its just kinda around 30 the whole time it looks like

how many mods do you run?

[polar umbra]

do you think the mod will be compatible once someone added the new bigger ship mods?

[upbeat egret]

the what

[polar umbra]

bigger ships

[upbeat egret]

show?

[polar umbra]

they havent made it yet. they said they will work on it tho

still on ideas as of now

[upbeat egret]

oh

im not sure

[polar umbra]

i just asked

[upbeat egret]

it shouldnt change ship spawn so it should be fine

just on maps like vertigo where its close to the edge it might be iffy

[exotic lily]

75, but all the moons (modded) run fine, even with modded interiors, except for one ( ether is pain) run fine at around 50 to 60, icebound runs at round 40 which is fine, hydro around 30, which idm, vertigo just out of nowhere if lookin at certain ares will dip down to 20 or10

[mental summit]

on march the ship hits geometry

[polar umbra]

well not big as in mothership size

[mental summit]

ive tried to grab beehives off hte back of the ship while taking off

and it shoves me off

[polar umbra]

maybe like double the current ship size or triple

[exotic lily]

ngl a bigger ship would be fun for a decorator maniac like me lmao

[polar umbra]

another guy mentioned orbital hangar

cuz some peeps can open the door on orbit

means they can design an orbital hangar there in space for us to design or leave our junk

well those are still ideas

[exotic lily]

that would be amazin actually, probably a bitch to code tho

[polar umbra]

some peeps are considering it tho

[upbeat egret]

weird

yeah im not having any issues at all with fps

ill try what batby said thuogh

with limiting texture size

[exotic lily]

thank ye, love the moons, they actually feel like base game moons, not too over the top

[upbeat egret]

@lusty lion like this?

[wet quartz]

found the error, occurs on both v3 and v4 hydro, but on v3 it only pops up on landing then seems to settle. v4 itll keep coming back. made sure to turn off custom interiors for testing, btw.
[Warning: Unity Log] Max shadow requests count reached, dropping all exceeding requests. You can increase this limit by changing the Maximum Shadows on Screen property in the HDRP asset.

[lusty lion]

Yeah, might need to do the second tab too but not sure. You can compare bundle sizes before and after to check

[upbeat egret]

fuck i already did it for all of them

blehhhhh

[upbeat egret]

shadows

thats weird

do you have a mod that affects lights?

[wet quartz]

like, static lights? none afaik

ive tried it with and without cullfactory (just to be sure) and i get the same results

[upbeat egret]

weird

@polar umbra

this good?

bleh

[pearl stump]

That looks really cool actually

Wonder if it'll be cool to explore with the Flippers from AC

[upbeat egret]

that grate blockes off one of the areas 😭

[mental summit]

whenever I read your name I just

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-flames-gif-10186555274208843849

think of this gif

[upbeat egret]

lmao

the only reason im named this is because i misspelled markiplier when i joined the server

and someone set my name

[pearl stump]

lmao

I need to get some mod devs together to play my pack whenever all my friends are busy

[upbeat egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145561940060557373/1149035997552713899/Tumblr_l_115658892347508.gif?ex=65a810a9&is=65959ba9&hm=97b24add74453f350646373139b85e06c210aca43732c29b0ccf716bacebb3ae&

hi squidward

[pearl stump]

Gotta get that Generic Moons update out first so I can add it to the pack

[upbeat egret]

i appear to have been slightly off with my prediction

[pearl stump]

lmao

[pearl stump]

But yeah, if you want I'll gladly play with you sometime, I have over 100 mods but I try to not add anything that is too meme-y or joke-y, only meme stuff I have are Peter Griffin TV and some relatively low spawnrate joke scraps

[upbeat egret]

goku bracken?

[pearl stump]

no

[upbeat egret]

FUCK

[pearl stump]

no goku bracken

If Goku Bracken adds a % chance to the mod like the SCP 173 Coilhead has, I'll make Goku a 1% chance

[upbeat egret]

i dunno

but it has a super saiyan chance now

[pearl stump]

Oh jesus

[upbeat egret]

bro im going through my pictures

wtf was this for

[pearl stump]

for marking the playable area obvs

[stone cliff]

fnf moon

[upbeat egret]

no

[stone cliff]

But we needa max win 😔 ✨

Models could probably slap though (not that Masa's saying you should do it tho)

[lyric mist]

“Fnf stuff” looks inside

[wary edge]

Goku bracken is like the only meme mod I have out of 80

It's amazing

It has its own music when he dies too

[upbeat egret]

Hey I can say that slur

:3

That’s also my old shit I was just uploading

[upbeat egret]

Agree

And lethal creature sometimes if you count that

I don’t personally like it I’d much rather use more company cosmetics but my boyfriend is more of a furry than I am

So I have to have it for him

[wary edge]

Lol cosmetics are always okay for me

As long as it doesn't break the immersion for the masked guys since I have the overhaul mod

[upbeat egret]

Yeah

That’s why I don’t like lethal creature

Because I like masked enemy overhaul

And it uses default model while lethal creature is active

[stone cliff]

Love the death track and the instant Goku laying down pose

[wary edge]

Yeah it's hilarious

[stone cliff]

First time Masa encountered it Masa died of laughing only to get snatched by another Goku (Brutal Company Bracken event)

Diversity send shocks of fear right after the laugh because now Masa was in a dark corridor with goku

[wary edge]

Lmaoo, I want to try diversity goku it did look really fun

[upbeat egret]

I literally just walked into a room and he was dead

I was so confused but I was losing my mind

[stone cliff]

LMAO

[upbeat egret]

I clipped it

[stone cliff]

JUST A RANDOM GOKU LAYING DOWN WITH THE TRACK PLAYING?

[upbeat egret]

I started recording mid thing and then got shot to shit

[upbeat egret]

Yeah

Right at the entrance

[stone cliff]

THat's funny asf

[upbeat egret]

I walked in and was like “bro wtf?”

[stone cliff]

Goku sleepy

[upbeat egret]

Idk what even killed it

[stone cliff]

Maybe landmine?

[upbeat egret]

No there was no landmine nearby

[stone cliff]

Hm..

Well yeah duh it exploded

[upbeat egret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/468494870047096833/1192266736876130334/bleeeh-1.gif

It was at the entrance and we were there until 7pm before goku appeared dead

I woulda noticed a landmine at the entrance

I think@some sort of mod allowed the nutcracker to shoot him

Because it wasn’t my modlist

[stone cliff]

maybe

There is uhhh FairAI

[upbeat egret]

?

[stone cliff]

Allows enemies to trigger certain traps and stuff

Not sure if there's Nutcracker vs Bracken infighting tho

[wary edge]

Nutcracker can kill bracken vanilla

[stone cliff]

o

[wary edge]

It just has to get in the way

[stone cliff]

OH

Nutcracker can kick Bracken

That makes sense

[wary edge]

Oh no

Only shoot

[stone cliff]

o

[wary edge]

Kicking wouldn't make sense, nutcracker would rampage otherwise

[stone cliff]

That.. makes..

Well mean like, would make more sense if the Nutcracker randomly kicks the assets out of anyone near it since its blind until open

But hm.. didnt know it could aggro on Bracken

[wary edge]

Nono not aggro lol

If its shooting at you

And a bracken is just

In the way