(GENERIC INTERIORS V5.0.0) Generic’s Generic stuff

[upbeat egret]

true

[neon geyser]

like barrels of apples or fish

[upbeat egret]

got no more props though

would need to find some

[neon geyser]

roblox 😍

[upbeat egret]

no 💔

couldnt find much

[neon geyser]

i can convert it for you

[upbeat egret]

nah i know how

[neon geyser]

ah

[upbeat egret]

i just couldnt find anything i liked

[neon geyser]

makes sense

[unborn zenith]

whats going to make maps pop out more, is having something thats more than just a different looking map. something that changes the game by going there

[neon geyser]

a lot of things got banned

[unborn zenith]

some sort of game changing thing

[upbeat egret]

im gonna do that for the other 5 moons im doing

[unborn zenith]

good good

[upbeat egret]

this pack is just kinda for like

basic stuff

then im gonna do a foraging one, and then ones with inside enemies naturally outside

like a junkyard with hoarding bugs outside

that one im really excited to do

i think i showed already

[neon geyser]

yea thats fire

reminds me of

jay's house

lego ninjago jaty

jay*

[upbeat egret]

never seen 💔

[neon geyser]

noooo

but yea his parents own a junkyard

[lusty lion]

Out of curiousity @upbeat egret, whats your experience in level design like?

[upbeat egret]

wdym

[lusty lion]

like in terms of making levels for games is this mod like a newer thing for you or

[upbeat egret]

uhhh for editors like unity yeah

but for years ive been

obsessed with making a lot of maps

so id make maps in gmod, terraria, minecraft

[neon geyser]

fortnite

[upbeat egret]

and i would mod the shit out of fallout 4 to let me build anywhere

oh and fortnite

fortnite was probably my peal

peak

[lusty lion]

yee cool cool. figured you had experience just from the output rate

[neon geyser]

yea thats crazy

im so burnt out

[upbeat egret]

i just have so many ideas

i just learned unity though

like less than a week ago

[lusty lion]

if you haven't seen before, might appreciate this
https://trello.com/b/AM3ZOmAd/level-design-compendium

[upbeat egret]

maybe 5 days ago???

[upbeat egret]

what am i looking at

[neon geyser]

oh yea

smth around that

[lusty lion]

it is a massive collection of level design related resources

[neon geyser]

too much to read 😭

[lusty lion]

ranges from every experience level and medium

[upbeat egret]

wacky

[lusty lion]

eg. the stuff from Tommy Norburg's twitter is really solid and easy to consume
https://twitter.com/the_Norberg/status/1374469984127045639

[upbeat egret]

thanks

im

about to pass out

lmao

gn yall

[neon geyser]

gn

bro sleeps so late

[upbeat egret]

i lied im testing something rq

oh yeah

hydro is way better when the entrance is closer

[neon geyser]

noo way bro

looking good

still need to text

ill report back when i can

[upbeat egret]

I wonder if I could collab with someone

I think my terrain is good but my level design is okay

And then my buildings are ass 😔

[neon geyser]

i can find models for you

[upbeat egret]

For what

Buildings?

Only way they’d ever be helpful is if I did that rooftop idea

I just need junk

Random items and garbage

I’m doing the junkyard when I get home in an hour

[upbeat egret]

Home

[harsh forge]

swag

[cursive pilot]

I mean there’s a bit of a mental difference between working to be productive and working for fun

[cursive pilot]

Oh snap

[cursive pilot]

A lot of people swear by trello

I don’t have experience with it personally, but I’ve heard it can be great for dev work

[upbeat egret]

ok so

migfht not have any progress today

just got through my schoolwork and it turns out the power might go out

winds are really high rn

[harsh forge]

👁️

PNW?

[upbeat egret]

pnw?

[harsh forge]

Pacific northwest

[upbeat egret]

maryland 😔

[harsh forge]

Ah

We happen to be having some bouts of heavy wind and rain all of a sudden here

Apparently it's supposed to snow tonight???

[upbeat egret]

think im gonna upload a none moon update to this

cus ive made a lot of changes

and even reworked a lot of hydro

[upbeat egret]

holy shit

i should really split these into individual releases

[upbeat egret]

im

i think

idk

[north rivet]

Fino

[upbeat egret]

:3

hes hiddin in a map

[neon geyser]

mmm

green fog

never even thought of that

[upbeat egret]

Dude

Do you know how to get rid

Of the white fog wind stuff

I hate it so much

And tbh it’s the one thing that’s pissing me off so much I don’t wanna work

Cus I keep trying to get rid of it and it just keeps staying 😭

Also anchorage is literally done map wise but i for the life of me can not find where the ship is

[upbeat egret]

@neon geyser

[lusty lion]

?

[upbeat egret]

I have the map surrounded by water and when I load in in game it’s just above water no land in sight

So I have no basis as to which direction it’s in

So I just keep moving around the land hoping I eventually get to see it

:3

[lusty lion]

i dont understand

[neon geyser]

wait the fog looks good no?

or in the

unity

[upbeat egret]

The white wind stuff not the fog

[neon geyser]

wait

lemme check

[upbeat egret]

It’s like two fogs at once kinda

[neon geyser]

is it vanilla

i think its in environment

[upbeat egret]

Might be

Should be in every map I did

[upbeat egret]

It’s not local volumetric from what I know

Cus that’s what I have as green

And also blue and brown on the other maps

And the sky and fog global volume is well

Global

And doesn’t really like to behave when I mess with it

[neon geyser]

hmmm

lemme see

i see it

ugh

i dont think we can remove it

but it goes away

[upbeat egret]

https://tenor.com/view/alre-cat-sad-mirror-in-at-the-corner-white-alre-cat-sad-sad-cat-kucing-sedih-kucing-nangis-gif-11129703725568140779

[upbeat egret]

splitting this mod into two

the moons with indoor creatures outside by default will be a new mod called "Inhabited Moons"

wip

[harsh forge]

sick nasty

[upbeat egret]

what

[harsh forge]

like

epic

cool

that sounds like a good idea

[upbeat egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145561940060557373/1149035997552713899/Tumblr_l_115658892347508.gif?ex=65a810a9&is=65959ba9&hm=97b24add74453f350646373139b85e06c210aca43732c29b0ccf716bacebb3ae&

[harsh forge]

uh

hey Integrity is your moon right?

like your WIP one

[unborn zenith]

Is there a way to re order the moons in the terminal? Like having some custom moons going next to march for example

[lusty lion]

soon w/ LLL

[harsh forge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[unborn zenith]

Thank god. I’m sick of having low tier moons at the bottom of my list@

Also is there a way to show the price of each moon right next to the name?

[lusty lion]

w/ the info i have organised i could even have a terminalkeyword that lets you organise the list by price

[upbeat egret]

yeah did i leave it in

?

[harsh forge]

yeah for some reason it shows up in the teminal and i can "land" on it

[upbeat egret]

it shoulda been hidden

wack

[harsh forge]

and by "land" i mean i park mid air and walk off the ship and plummet

i think it was before

something with my mod list may have forced it to show?

[upbeat egret]

maybe?

moon folder of the mod

whatr

its not supposed to be accessable

[harsh forge]

testing something

[upbeat egret]

they just dance the whole time

for this other mod im making i might have to have lethal escape as a requirement

ai does not like being out here

[harsh forge]

curious

i think i found your issue

or at least part of it

your moons flat out dont show up currently with lethalexpansion

but when i have lethalexpansioncore they do but so does your wip moon

im gonna assume its because your current build is based off of lethalexpansion 1.3.12 when the current version of the mod is 1.3.18

Curious that the core version still works though

[upbeat egret]

i have no issues

weird

[harsh forge]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[upbeat egret]

ill push an update then cus mine works fine

[harsh forge]

do you use core? or just LE?

ah

i disabled LethalLevelLoader and it works fine now

LethalExpansionCore seems to have compatability with LLL while LethalExpansion does not

So if someone is trying to use custom dungeons and your moons at the same time they need to get LEC, but that also causes your WIP moon to show up in the list

[upbeat egret]

this is my testing modlist

thats why i have comp exec

[harsh forge]

Ah okay

It's some sort of werird thing between LLL and LEC that causes the WIP moon to show up from what I can tell. If you have LLL and LE the moons don't seem to show up at all. I'll do some more in depth testing tonight after school and let you know the results of my findings

[upbeat egret]

aight

ill either finish integrity or delete it entirely

[upbeat egret]

yay or nay?

[neon geyser]

at this point add catland as a standalone mod

[upbeat egret]

maybe

[upbeat egret]

where am i

[harsh forge]

What exactly am I looking at

[upbeat egret]

the windows being lit

[harsh forge]

I think it looks neat

But I don't know what it's on or where lol

[upbeat egret]

Hydro

But the reworked one

I’m trying to make the buildings look better

But I’m not so sure it’s working

[upbeat egret]

this is so worth an update

forgot a line

[neon geyser]

did you move the ship again?

it happens like that

[upbeat egret]

i did but its just

gone

its not even near the main

and i did the reset method

and nothing

[neon geyser]

what the heck

use template map and readjust your current map to fit the ship

[upbeat egret]

i did

WHERE AM I

[neon geyser]

WTF

the water loaded in

😭

[upbeat egret]

i think i might have an addiction

not even integrity works

i mean it kinda does at least i can

see

this one

[lusty lion]

does LE do stuff to let you move the ship?

[neon geyser]

never

[neon geyser]

experiment with it

you got it

[lusty lion]

so why are yall doing it 😭

[neon geyser]

it happens

im not doing it

[glass frigate]

yo, is this normal that the moon integrity is broken like that ? anyway to remove it on next patch maybe?

[upbeat egret]

its not even supposed to even be there

new lethal company update unhid it

[glass frigate]

oh so author will fix it on next update i assume

[upbeat egret]

im just gonna get rid of it lmao

[lusty lion]

naaa

its an issue where LLL does revamped terminal listings and lecore slides in the le maps

but because their le maps LLL doesn't know their meant to be hidden

[hardy eagle]

Dark mist, but he doesnt kill you, just ''annoy'' you, dont wanna spoil

a litle late but i saw it, so may aswell answer

[glass frigate]

u guys know a mod that let you see the price and difficulty of modded moons like what LextahlExpansion does?

[upbeat egret]

my fault

i was gonna push out an update today fixing shit and adding the remade hydro but im soooo lazy

and by so lazy i mean i did a school proect

projec

t

[upbeat egret]

i made this for a presentation im doing tomorrow 😭

might make this into like a song that might play when you enter the junkyard map im doing

wip of hydro v2 btw

theyre trying to tunnel it out for me

:3

[upbeat egret]

dawg where am i

[neon geyser]

i feel like you should make it more creepy cus the vibe im getting from junkayard is that its abandoned and you dont know what is within

[upbeat egret]

I meant from like an abandoned radio or smth

[neon geyser]

ohh

that makes sense

add some jumps and static though

[upbeat egret]

anchorage is being scrapped due to the sheer headache that is finding out where it is

[upbeat egret]

pwetty

@harsh forge does this look any better

i tried to mess with the light settings

window

[harsh forge]

From what I can tell in a still image yeah definitely

[upbeat egret]

might add a map of the area by the spawn

would make the area feel more alive

with a little "you are here" dot

but that'll come later

water is black and white now

dunno why

and i was so close to releasing 😭

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret I love hydro but I do wonder why no map shows on the terminal when your crew is outside just just a black void on the screen

[upbeat egret]

isnt it kinda like that in the normal game

when theyre outside?

[bronze pecan]

No your can normally see ground on the screen

[upbeat egret]

weird

does it work for other modded maps?

like orion

[bronze pecan]

Egypt

Have not tested orion

[upbeat egret]

i kinda just assumed it did that on its own im not even gonna lie

i have no idea how to make it show terrain

[bronze pecan]

But some modded moons don't show outside on the monitor

@upbeat egret it might be the ground you use as it makes a different sound to all normal moons or even Egypt

[upbeat egret]

that is true

[bronze pecan]

As him how he got it working

[upbeat egret]

i use base unity terrain

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret also hydro mane entrance is a little far from the ship

[upbeat egret]

oh yeah i already changed that

i reworked hydro a few days ago and have just been kinda

[bronze pecan]

Nice

[upbeat egret]

sitting on the update

i even added path to the ground

main is still there but as a fire exit now

[bronze pecan]

I would say where it used to be can be a fire exit

[upbeat egret]

im actually about to release this in like 10 minutes

lmao

[lusty lion]

@upbeat egret the ship screen is a camera above the selected player facing down

anything with the layer "Room" will be shown on that camera

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret there is your answer

[upbeat egret]

so

do i just like

[bronze pecan]

[upbeat egret]

add the terrain to a layer or smth

?

[lusty lion]

anything you want on that screen should be marked as room

if you have the assetripped basegame you'll see that most vanilla levels have a bunch of stuff with it

[upbeat egret]

how does one mark the terrain as room

[lusty lion]

gameobject layer

[upbeat egret]

i have not

weird

[lusty lion]

8

[upbeat egret]

how have i literally never noticed this before

[bronze pecan]

[upbeat egret]

tbf lethal expansion doesnt really explain anything

but erm

ty

for helping me like

5 times now

lmao

[bronze pecan]

That's why everyone is moving to lethal level loader

[upbeat egret]

i would move if i knew how

[bronze pecan]

That and it's just better than LE

[lusty lion]

documentation soooon

[upbeat egret]

i just

i dont like how

le adds more than just moons

i wish it was just the framework

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret ask the guy who made Egypt he just moved to it

[upbeat egret]

maybe

[lusty lion]

dw

[upbeat egret]

i dont like bothering people

:3

[lusty lion]

LLL will be a lot easier to move to once i have time to put into that stuff

[upbeat egret]

swag

cant wait

[lusty lion]

rn I have a little bit of life things going on + Egypt has been a good stress test for a first big LLL moon

[upbeat egret]

oh man i cant wait to abuse lll lmao

i have 6 moons total

only like 3 are released 😭

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret I got you just asked him

[upbeat egret]

i

i saw

[bronze pecan]

@lusty lion can you add new scrap with LLL

[lusty lion]

not yet but LLL is dependant on lethallib so you can do it through that for now

[bronze pecan]

@lusty lion what about dungen I been hearing a lot about

[lusty lion]

yeah

wym

[bronze pecan]

I was just wondering if I would need to install it for the scrap to work

[lusty lion]

i dont understand your question

[upbeat egret]

hydro done

gonna add the room tag to the other maps

hopefully i dont somehow crash my whole pc

[bronze pecan]

Yay

[upbeat egret]

(i have done that before dont even ask me how i have no idea)

man i need to make smaller maps

[bronze pecan]

I wish I knew how to code so I just bata test

[upbeat egret]

these fuckers are HUGE

[bronze pecan]

I would say look at Vanilla maps I think rend, dine, and march are the biggest maps in base game

[upbeat egret]

i mean thats true but like compare icebound and hyrdro old to like march

theyre just so open

march has trees and varying terrain to block off line of sight and to not make it look empty

dine and rend have the fog™️

[lusty lion]

theres just not enough outside moon content in the basegame to justify how big some of them are imo

[upbeat egret]

speaking of

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret add trees and rolling hills to brake up the flat ground if you want them less open

[upbeat egret]

i might add the fog to icebound

but i dont think i should at the same time

cus its only a mid tier moon

[upbeat egret]

like outside creatures n shit?

i agree

i wish there were more creatures

[lusty lion]

nah i want more like

actual things to do

[upbeat egret]

i want like

natural scrap outside that isnt just beehives

like the junkyard idea i have

[lusty lion]

when i actually have the chance to work on my content mod i plan to add a saferoom bunker/thing to each planet that has like 10ish ways of opening it thats randomised on level load

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret I mean unless you plan on having the mod that lets you stay until 6 in the morning as a dependent then maps should not be big

[lusty lion]

and it has 1-2 scrap and 1-2 buyable items

[upbeat egret]

that would go hard

im not even gonna lie

alr final test

extracting mod now

making sure it doesnt die

[lusty lion]

some options include

-door is solar powered, so you have to wait till night for it to open (like fnaf doors)
-door power generator is missing an aparatus, so you need to provide one (from dungeon or pre-found loot in ship)
-door power generator is missing a large axil, so you need to provide one
etc. etc. etc.

[harsh forge]

I'd say add some thick wind to icebound

As opposed to a blanket of fog

[upbeat egret]

my dumbass probably couldnt figure out how to do wind

😭

[harsh forge]

Hah fair enough

[upbeat egret]

i cant even figure out how to remove the current one

if even possible

[harsh forge]

All the more reason to hold out for those LLL docs I guess lol

[upbeat egret]

does this look good

for patch notes

[harsh forge]

I'd say so

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret I wonder if you can get new models in to help use for outside

[upbeat egret]

wdym?

[bronze pecan]

I mean it's uses unity

[upbeat egret]

oh the trees and rocks i use are from other assetbundles i downloaded

the shipping container i took from roblox 😭

[bronze pecan]

Unity models for rocks trees and other stuff if very easy to come by

[upbeat egret]

man

i feel like devastation is perfect

thats my peak

rest in piece anchorage

[bronze pecan]

I could buy you some assets

[upbeat egret]

i spent so long making it just for it to physically not work

[upbeat egret]

nah

i think im good with what i got

i just need to figure out how to assemble buildings better

@harsh forge did i ever show you anchorage

shit just doesnt load

😭

[bronze pecan]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/realistic-rocks-lowpoly-72419f4c41724d1fa9c9f986830eafe1

[harsh forge]

Oooo looks cool

You say it won't load?

[upbeat egret]

it was gonna be the 4th moon for this one

but it spawns me in the void

so im just gonna

push it off until the next modpack

this ones gonna be focused on nature moons

then theres the outdoor creature moons

then theres the building focused moons

which integrity is also gonna be reused for

[harsh forge]

Oh cool

[bronze pecan]

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/props/exterior/rock-and-boulders-2-6947

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/vegetation/plants/yughues-free-bushes-13168

@upbeat egret unity has a whole store with assists and over 1000 free ones

[upbeat egret]

ik

where do you think i got my trees and ground textures from

oh man this is so much better

[bronze pecan]

yes

[upbeat egret]

there was a masked waiting for me in my ship

anyways terrain works

[bronze pecan]

Hell yeah

[upbeat egret]

only the ground shows up though

[bronze pecan]

Yeah they spawn outside I think

[upbeat egret]

if i went and made EVERYTHING show up it would take like an hour

[upbeat egret]

they can go outside yeah

[harsh forge]

Nah masked spawn inside

[upbeat egret]

i just wasnt expecting him in my corner

[harsh forge]

But they can go outside

[upbeat egret]

INSIDE my bunk bed

[bronze pecan]

At least we always find one outside

[harsh forge]

The masked overhaul mod can make them spawn outside

[upbeat egret]

good mod

unless you have lethal creature

my friends have it as a must have mod 😔

[harsh forge]

Is that even updated for masked?

[upbeat egret]

no

it did get updated though

[bronze pecan]

Possessed mask mod is fantastic

[upbeat egret]

now it has jiggle physics

[harsh forge]

Oh my god

So they gave it jiggle physics but didnt make it so the mask shows up on them?

[upbeat egret]

they did it for the ears

[harsh forge]

Oh?

[upbeat egret]

corpses now work

but masked dont

which is weird

[harsh forge]

Huh

[upbeat egret]

youd think if corpses worked masked would too

[bronze pecan]

Do y'all know this mod

[pearl stump]

I actually removed this pack a little bit ago as, ironically, the moons felt a tad "Generic" plus the glitch of Integrity showing up. Hydro in particular felt really annoying to traverse, Icebound and Devastation are neat, though I feel Icebound needs slippery ice lake physics

[upbeat egret]

swag

[harsh forge]

Oh man I need to test if masked overhaul works with cosmetics done through advanced company

[pearl stump]

Am excited to see its development tho

[upbeat egret]

tried with ice physics but dont know how to sadly

and integrity is getting removed in roughly 3 mintues

minutes

[pearl stump]

Valid, perhaps one day

[upbeat egret]

hydro also got reworked

[pearl stump]

Yup yup, was looking at your 3.1.0 notes

[upbeat egret]

og hydro was made in 30 minutes

[upbeat egret]

swag

[pearl stump]

I'll definitely check em out sometime, though convincing my friends to add more moons is gonna be... challenging

[upbeat egret]

this is how close the main entrance is now

[pearl stump]

That's SO much nicer

Question

[upbeat egret]

plus the path now

[pearl stump]

Can the scan node be found from the ship

That way players know where to go

[upbeat egret]

no but you just gotta follow the path on the ground or just round the corner

i could add lights

if you want

along the path

[pearl stump]

Fair, either that or remove the big terrain thing in the middle so people can see the door with the light above it better

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret so possessed mask mod makes it so the mask item actively tries to possess you by moving your hand closer to the item slot its in and when you hold the makes making you put it one for a few seconds

It makes giggling sound while doing this to

[pearl stump]

my modded moons list must grow

Although I may be removing Auralis, so far it is just NOT worth it

[upbeat egret]

dude i somehow didnt know kast existed until yesterday

IT LOOKS SO GOOD

[pearl stump]

Kast is dope

And really, really difficult, but also crawling in loot

Like legitimately flooded with loot

It looks like the back side of the Company ngl

[bronze pecan]

It's also old

So not on LLL yet probably never will

[upbeat egret]

@pearl stump something like this good?

[pearl stump]

Well luckily LECore actively maintaining compatibility means that shouldn't be an issue

[pearl stump]

Yeah that should help a ton

[upbeat egret]

those are all light posts

alr

[pearl stump]

I remember getting horribly lost when we landed on Hydro during testing

Same with EGypt

[upbeat egret]

im so sorry

egypt yeah me too

but for hydro i literally did not playtest it

i made it to show my friend how to map

and then the fucking ship wouldnt spawn at the right spot

and after like an hour of fucking with it i finally got it to spawn in the map

[pearl stump]

EGypt seems neat, and is very pretty visually, but it definitely needs more work, so many collision issues and such a long trek to the entrance = no thanks for me

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret I wonder if you can add a waterfall and a dam since it's called hydro it might be a hydro power plant that rundown

[upbeat egret]

and i was just so tired of relaunching that i just uploading it 😭

[upbeat egret]

maybe another time

i really dont feel like doing that rn

[bronze pecan]

Having a massive dam would make it look more interesting

[pearl stump]

Speaking of not spawning in the right place, we loaded into Integrity not knowing what it was and found ourselves floating above a very large Test Moon with a couple of skyscrapers far in the distance

[upbeat egret]

oh yeah integrity isnt even supposed to exist lol

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret also a mape where you enter a shipwreck

[upbeat egret]

i think a mod conflict is making it show up

i think someone said it was lll

[pearl stump]

Could be, could also be LECore overriding whatever you used in LE to hide it

Since LECore is a fork that everyone is using rn

To make moons compatible with LLL

[bronze pecan]

Name it test then just in case it shows up on the list

[pearl stump]

For now, removing the file entirely from released versions will fix it

But am definitely excited, Hydro is really cool, especially with Advanced Company's Flipper item and being able to potentially explore it when Flooded

we accidentally landed on it Flooded the first time and thought it was the default

[upbeat egret]

alr should be good

[pearl stump]

Dope

[upbeat egret]

that would be a cool idea

theres only one way to go rn if its flooded

which is back here

[bronze pecan]

Hope you like the idea

[upbeat egret]

a map already does that kinda

aquatis

unless they removed the fire escape inside the wreck

overhead

[pearl stump]

Hmm, Aquatis actually removed the shipwreck entrance, yeah. The wreck is still there, but they moved the fire entrance

Not sure what they plan to do with the wreck

[upbeat egret]

deco i guess

i wonder why the models on orion and aquatis are so weird

like the ship and the buildings are so funky

[pearl stump]

Hopefully they do more with it. Orion, by the same dev, is really fkin cool, and his attention has been mostly on that

They look funky, but I think in the art style of Lethal Company is fine

[upbeat egret]

true

[pearl stump]

Hydro will be even better once Scoopy's Variety Mod adds their sewer interior layout

[bronze pecan]

Yeah but you don't enter the ship and yeah it's not there anymore

[harsh forge]

This fella is bothering me

Bro has no partner and is in an awkward spot

[pearl stump]

Ooh yeah I can see how the OCD there would drive ya nuts

[upbeat egret]

im leaving it there just to spite you

jk jk

[harsh forge]

NOOOOOO

[pearl stump]

Maybe an in-between like these red dots would work

Or that!

Now there's 4 sets on each side

[upbeat egret]

I JUST NOTICED ANOTHER ALONE

[pearl stump]

I like that better

[pearl stump]

This is another awkward triangle

Though it's weirdly less bad than the other one

[upbeat egret]

augh

that one up top is supposed to be alone

[pearl stump]

The bane of existence: lights

[upbeat egret]

lighting is genuinely so annoying in unity

[pearl stump]

[upbeat egret]

ok now its done i swear

im gonna upload

[pearl stump]

Time to wait ~30 minutes for the update to actually show up in Thunderstore

If we're lucky

[upbeat egret]

im p sure if you install directly from the site it should only be like 5

[pearl stump]

Yeahhh but installing directly takes longer and then I have to walk all my friends how to do that

Sooo nah

[upbeat egret]

fair enough

[pearl stump]

Not like I'm in a rush anyways

[upbeat egret]

alr ima see how it looks in game

watch it look like shit

😭

[pearl stump]

I do think Icebound needs some sort of base weather effect in the future, something less heavy than Rend/Dine/Titan but right now it feels a little too bright and open

Like a light snow or smth

[upbeat egret]

oh yeah i agree

i hate icebound

[pearl stump]

Oof

[upbeat egret]

first map so ofc its gonna be the worst

[pearl stump]

I honestly like Icebound's layout, it feels really good for an early map

Just needs some weather and some slidy ice physics

[upbeat egret]

i should probably restate

[pearl stump]

[upbeat egret]

tomorrow will mark the end of my first week in unity i think

[pearl stump]

Dayum

These are impressive considering

[upbeat egret]

my newer maps havent really gotten any better

i kinda lucked out with devastation

[pearl stump]

If I start messing around in Unity I'mma make cosmetics first

[upbeat egret]

dear gid

gid

god

nvm it was just the wind

being annoying as usual

[pearl stump]

wind, or fog

That looks like fog

[upbeat egret]

fast moving fog probably

i always thought of it as wind

ignore my music

but this is how it looks in game

[pearl stump]

Interesting. It seems a tad heavy but definitely something that can be messed around with

[upbeat egret]

i think im gonna

go the other idea i had

one of those goofy arrow signs

[pearl stump]

That could be funny

[upbeat egret]

fuck it ill just leave it as the ground path now and if people still have problems ill bother with lights

or signs or something

been trying to model something i liked but cant so im just gonna get it out and over with

[bronze pecan]

sounds good man

[upbeat egret]

now we play the waiting game

Generic Moons 3.1.0

[upbeat egret]

nvm hold up moving something

[harsh forge]

dont shit talk my boy icebound

i think its dope

[upbeat egret]

i dont 💔

[harsh forge]

:(

[upbeat egret]

i was remaking it again tbh

and somehow made it worse

so i gave up

[bronze pecan]

i mean if you let me see what you got i can help

[upbeat egret]

oh maps already deleted

[bronze pecan]

you sadded me

[upbeat egret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147608357906174076/1194690080963575859/42B91449-9BDE-4E0A-96C6-0E2520C4E4B6.gif?ex=65b144d7&is=659ecfd7&hm=28b23b5acf6070186872787151ecf65240e0de506f468898d323fd6adca89993&

[bronze pecan]

also i have been dming you

[upbeat egret]

you have?

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret 2 heads are better than one

[upbeat egret]

oh

[bronze pecan]

yes i have

[upbeat egret]

sorry i have perminantly 1 request because some guy dmd me a voice message of him mocking me and i need it for archival purposes

:3

[bronze pecan]

its fine

[upbeat egret]

Generic Moons 3.1.1

[harsh forge]

oh hey

i got something real neat to show ya

[north rivet]

dogy playing in the snow

[upbeat egret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147608357906174076/1194690080963575859/42B91449-9BDE-4E0A-96C6-0E2520C4E4B6.gif?ex=65b144d7&is=659ecfd7&hm=28b23b5acf6070186872787151ecf65240e0de506f468898d323fd6adca89993&

I’m going to explode

Why did he just pop out of the ground

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147608357906174076/1194054051827036210/awyeah.gif?ex=65aef47e&is=659c7f7e&hm=e7cbd775d232ea78c0ce6d5b25bf986a1e8ee6ba92f3ab9f2b587051c5c4712f&

[pearl stump]

I wouldn't stress too much about this

I've had dogs spawn inside walls and rocks in the base game

I don't think this is your fault

[upbeat egret]

True

[upbeat egret]

I was going so hard on myself on original hydro for being hard to understand for people unfamiliar with the map and then I remember March and assurance exist

And now I don’t feel so bad

It was still a nightmare but at least it’s better now :3

[pearl stump]

Yeah no literally the only vanilla maps that are somewhat easy to understand are Experimentation, Rend, Dine, and Titan

All the mid-tier maps have ass navigation, especially Vow, March and Assurance

Literally just making the entrance scan node noticable from farther away would help immensely on all of them

But don't beat yourself up, the big difference is that, as a mod dev, you kinda have to be better or at least as good as vanilla or you're not gonna see a lot of people checking out the mod

Kinda have to set yourself apart when you're making mods, is the nature of the game

[upbeat egret]

Yeah that’s fair

Im mainly just doing this for fun anyways

and mildly forcing my friendgroup to play with it

[pearl stump]

GUYS LOOK I MADE COOL NEW MOONS

Great, great, can we play Lethal Company, I wanna go to Titan

[upbeat egret]

Titan is probably my favorite moon design wise on the base game

It’s so cool

And also now that I got the push mod I can just execute my friends

[pearl stump]

Titan really adds verticality the other levels lack, yeah. Though I really like March even if it's a pain to navigate at first

At least you can see the entrance

[upbeat egret]

March is the one where the entrance is to the right of the ship right

If so I like that one too

[pearl stump]

Nah that's Vow

March is big lake

That people slip and fall into and is funny

And has 3 fire exits

I honestly like all the vanilla maps, I just will agree that they are not intuitive

Even a little

[upbeat egret]

My b

I like all the base maps except for dine

No idea why

I just don’t like going there

[pearl stump]

Fair. I like Dine but I do feel less excited about it than others, and I think that's because the fun has been optimized out of it

It's get ladder, go fire exit

[upbeat egret]

I never even really found any of the fire exits for dine and rend

Titan is incredibly obvious

I thought Titan was gonna have two considering the main one was right there but apparently not

[pearl stump]

Huh

So then in your mind what makes you like Rend but not Dine

[upbeat egret]

Im really not sure

Whenever lethal level loader exists properly I think I might port my shit over

If I do then I’ll split it up

But ill keep the lethal expansion version up separately

[pearl stump]

From what I've heard it should be relatively easy to port

[upbeat egret]

New map almost done

Idk what difficulty to do though

[upbeat egret]

after this update the file size should go down a bit

removing the 2-3 unused moons

from the files

[pearl stump]

Ver nice

Will that improve load times in LE as well?

Cuz before adding your mod nearly doubled my load times due to loading modules

[pearl stump]

Try to avoid going too high, I'm tired of every moon being an endgame difficulty moon

[upbeat egret]

idk

[pearl stump]

I want other shit to explore when I'm broke and can only go to March and Offense

[upbeat egret]

im not sure where the moon would even fit i have no idea

like

its heavily based off of the dunes from the mad max game

[pearl stump]

Gotcha

Hrm

I'm personally all for lower difficulty moons with still decent loot

[upbeat egret]

i still need to do an easy moon 😭

ive been getting so distracted

[pearl stump]

I mean Icebound's pretty easy atm

[upbeat egret]

(another easy moon)

[pearl stump]

Fair

[upbeat egret]

HOW DID IT GET WORSE

[pearl stump]

[upbeat egret]

ofc the one time i wanna test it 😭

ignore my money this is my testing profile

not even on the map 😭

[upbeat egret]

the fuck he doin up there

scrapping cus bad

lol

[pearl stump]

space dog, space dog, space dog, spaaaaace dog

[stoic citrus]

what are the internal names for the moons?

[upbeat egret]

like the name of the prefab stuff

cus i have a list

[upbeat egret]

icebound - frozenlake
hydro - hydro
devastation - cragzone

lmk if that doesnt work

actually i have no idea what you even need those for

[pearl stump]

SCP Facility used to use them, but it doesn't anymore @stoic citrus

Config info just hasn't been updated

Just format it similar to Scoopy's, using the display name

[upbeat egret]

just got my hands on a shit ton of new textures and some props

gonna grind tonight and see if i can get something down that i dont hate

[pearl stump]

[neon geyser]

goodluck

[upbeat egret]

Nvm this headache got hands

Always get good sleep guys

Or else sleep paralysis will beat your ass

I think it was sleep paralysis

Idk

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret you ok

[neon geyser]

mm let bro rest

[upbeat egret]

wip that im actually gonna finish this time

[bronze pecan]

You better or you will make me sad

[upbeat egret]

i should probably work more on the actually layout of where to go but i got a little silly

[upbeat egret]

better

[neon geyser]

better release these

[upbeat egret]

after i upload this update my next focus is remaking icebound

i thinks

[upbeat egret]

1 or 2

for lighting

[bronze pecan]

2

[harsh forge]

you should look into replacing the LE dependency with LECore

[upbeat egret]

couldnt i just have it like that already

whats the issue

oh right the mod manager kinda hates it when you dont have the dependancy

[harsh forge]

yeah lol

i dont think it would break anything by just swapping the dependency in thunderstore

LE is ceasing development anyhow while LECore is continuing

[upbeat egret]

it would also download le core but keep le which would shit peoples games

cus people press update and never look at what changed

[harsh forge]

LECore disables LE

[upbeat egret]

oh

[honest quarry]

2

[harsh forge]

If both are installed

But there's no point in having LE when you can just have LECore

[upbeat egret]

also i didnt notice this

so

[honest quarry]

LLL js better

[harsh forge]

yeah i think was announced like a couple days ago?

idk

[upbeat egret]

what would happen with lethal sdk and shit

[upbeat egret]

i would switch over if i knew how

[harsh forge]

while i agree, a number of us are waiting on documentation before porting or making new moons

[harsh forge]

well LECore I think already has LethalSDK implemented?

[upbeat egret]

i mean like

[harsh forge]

and the guy is still actively working on LECore

[upbeat egret]

wasnt it maintained by holo

[harsh forge]

i mean i presume so

i figure the guy running LECore is taking it into their own hands now

[honest quarry]

When I only used LLL based moons I think I got like a 10-15 fps boost

[upbeat egret]

ive never had an fps problem with le

[honest quarry]

For me it was constant 40 dps

[upbeat egret]

weird

[honest quarry]

FPS

Even going down to 20

[harsh forge]

once egypt is completely figured out with LLL they said they're gonna get to work on tutorials and such

so hopefully we shall see the light soon

[honest quarry]

I’m waiting for a modded moon pack that feels vanilla

[upbeat egret]

i was originally trying that with this one but theyre all way too open 😭

devastation is probably the closet ill get

[honest quarry]

I mean vow is open and it’s full of life cause it’s a forest, desert-like maps a typically rocky, full of dead trees and terrain, and snow maps are full of trees and lights

[upbeat egret]

nah mine are like

way too open

[honest quarry]

Lemme see images of each, scrolling ain’t working on my phone

[upbeat egret]

this one is the first one i ever did and i hate it

oh yeah btw these are images from unity so the lighting sucks

[honest quarry]

Yeah I get that

[bronze pecan]

@upbeat egret we all start somewhere

[honest quarry]

I would wanna make maps but I’m too lazy

[upbeat egret]

hydro

[honest quarry]

I get most of my experience from Roblox map making

[honest quarry]

That’s really not bad

[bronze pecan]

Mine is from halo forge

[upbeat egret]

devastation

[honest quarry]

Love it need it

[upbeat egret]

(unreleased) vertigo

[bronze pecan]

Can't wait to see you add the oil rig stuff

[upbeat egret]

and then i have 3 other unreleased stuff but theyll probably stay that way

[honest quarry]

Can I give my honest opinions on each?

[upbeat egret]

i think the oil rig stuff will be its own map

cus it wouldnt fit

[upbeat egret]

sure

[bronze pecan]

What about the crain

[upbeat egret]

also i learned unity about a week or two ago

i started modding on the 5th

[honest quarry]

It is really open and doesn’t have really many models to fill in the voids. It’s super open yet has nothing due to the short space between ship and entrance, I feel like it needs more assurance + a Titan feel (where the map is short, entrance is far but close)

[upbeat egret]

thank god im not the only one who doesnt like that map

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077030283792097420/1155379940045357076/c-1.gif

[honest quarry]

Not a negative if it’s what you’re going for but feels more like a paradise planet. Otherwise the map is not bad

[honest quarry]

Besides entrances and other details I’d say it’s amazing for a custom map and is possibly kast level

[honest quarry]

I know it’s not intentional and the red is a death zone, but I love how the red compliments the map so well. Id say besides few rocks and details, possibly more likes to align some things and to fill those slanted walls, you should definitely add some blood river, and give the feel of uneasiness.

[upbeat egret]

more likes?

wdym

[honest quarry]

So on the vertigo map the red dead zone looks intentional (even tho it isn’t) and I love how it compliments itself. Looking like a blood river

[upbeat egret]

so add red

got it

[honest quarry]

Like a red river

That’s what I’d say

Besides a few details that you can borrow from the base game, I like the maps

[harsh forge]

FUCK OFF MY BOY ICEBOUND ITS COOL

[upbeat egret]

choo i am so sorry but im reworking icebound after this map is done

i can make the old one available for download if you want

[harsh forge]

depends on how the new one is

[upbeat egret]

vertigo in game

im messing with the lighting

[honest quarry]

Ohh I didn’t see how the ice looks in game

[upbeat egret]

i can get in game screenshots of every map

hold on

devastation

fuck ofc the other two are stormy

[honest quarry]

I wonder how it would look if it was more greyish

But i really like it

[upbeat egret]

icebound stuffs

[honest quarry]

I feel like the ground terrain and the sand looking snow clash

I think it would be little bit better if it had a natural like fog kinda like titan

[upbeat egret]

hydro is so fucking huge so im just getting these

oh and hydro main

[honest quarry]

alr alr

[upbeat egret]

oh hey i left one of the unused moons in my current testing file

wow this sucks

[honest quarry]

I’m sorry

[upbeat egret]

vertigo should be done (visually) soon

overhead view

thinking it should either be in between icebound and hydro (60$) or as an inbetween for titan and devastation (750$)

[neon geyser]

this is so fire

[upbeat egret]

honestly im not sure how i feel

you were probably right about cactus

[honest quarry]

i still stand on its need of red

[upbeat egret]

i added some redish textures

ill see how it is

also im working on making cacti that beat your ass if you touch them

[upbeat egret]

jfc i need to do something else

[neon geyser]

one pipe is below kill zone

[upbeat egret]

i know

its a background pipe

[charred pond]

This is awesome, I am looking forward to your future updates

[upbeat egret]

RAGh

cacti hurt

[north rivet]

woah, this looks cool

[upbeat egret]

i played it in vr it was p good

i think i just need to add lights and rebalance it a bit

[north rivet]

i think it'd be cool looking out over the ledges in vr

[harsh forge]

Oh shoot I just randomly remembered something

I landed on icebound in a multiplayer game during eclipse

And there was no eclipse lighting n such

The map looked as if it was clear weather

But there was the eclipse music still

[oblique hare]

These moons are great, stoked to see what else may come together!

[upbeat egret]

i pushed my friend over the edge

:3

[upbeat egret]

yeah eclipses are sorta broken

they function correctly but i dont know how to lighting

[upbeat egret]

gonna be doing so rebalancing

[oblique hare]

Just a heads up but LethalLevelLoader seems to make a significant difference in load time for modded moons over LE/LECore - I'm not sure what all it entails from the creation side but a couple of other moons migrated over and I swear it took a 4000ms moon to like 90ms during startup.

[upbeat egret]

i do plan on switching to LLL once more documentation is out

egypt is supposed to be a test run for modded moons

[oblique hare]

Sweet! The results for egypt seem really promising, putting that into a modded setup saw virtually no boot time increase with the change.

[upbeat egret]

yeah

im hoping mods like orion switch

cus orion takes a long time to load

[oblique hare]

Yes, Orion nearly crashes sometimes with the landing

[upbeat egret]

never forgetting how someone in my 9 person lobby landed us at orion and we lost half the people

💔

[oblique hare]

That's basically what happened to us, 9 person lobby and it blipped two people out

[upbeat egret]

trying to improve building design

unsure of how i feel

this might be a bit better

[pearl stump]

Ooo

[harsh forge]

bro is UPGRADING

this is looking peak dude

love it

[upbeat egret]

i went to fucking show this in game and died to a cactus

whoopsies

oh yeah

[oblique hare]

niiiice

[harsh forge]

sick nasty

[upbeat egret]

also the creatures know how to navigate the pipes

[pearl stump]

Don't die to cactus 4head

[upbeat egret]

i was so horrified when i watched a dog crawl across a pipe and disintegrate my friend in vr

also it turns out one of the textures i used to paint the map doesnt work properly

[pearl stump]

[upbeat egret]

so i have to soft redo it

like it looks like shadow but its not its just an invalid texture

😔

dont grab cacti btw

it will puncture your suit and you will die slowly

:3

running into them is fine you just take 1 damage

why?

idk

lmao

[pearl stump]

Can I carry the cacti back to the ship to sell to the company though

Doesn't matter if I puncture my suit if it's for the company

[upbeat egret]

if i can figure out how to make items that would be a cool gimmick

but as of now

no