[WIP] Hadal Laboratories (Underwater Dungeon Mod)

[tall cave]

A new dungeon for Lethal Company taking place in a underwater laboratory. This mod is a early WIP/POC with several features planned. We are focusing on making a very dynamic dungeon with many unique things to explore. ETA "soon™️"

[fleet dome]

holy moly

excited!

[viscid pecan]

I need dis

[silk venture]

BIOSHOCK DUNGEON LETS GOOOO

[main swallow]

W h a t. Bro I swear if there is a megalodon I'm gonna poop myself

[ionic mica]

That's something we want to do but it's pretty far down the list

we're still figuring out a lot of simple things like loot and nav meshes

'simple'

Maybe I'll model a kraken for it

[wanton eagle]

anyone who puts a trademark logo on the word 'soon' is a person to keep your eye on

[strong brook]

This Can be very claustrophobic as Fuck !

[forest ridge]

Iam...hype for this I have a ton of ideas for rooms for this

[cold cave]

will this have some sort of exterior?

[indigo sequoia]

soon™️
lol

good mod tho, would for sure try out!

[fresh walrus]

You know, I was always thinking there were plans for some kind of water-diving or ocean-themed moons to be added to the game. Like, if we have the ability to drown, why not make an interior giving us the option to drown, rather than splat from gravity?

Though I can't imagine adding water to dungeonflow is an easy feat

[tall cave]

I'm sure zeekers will release something like this right before we're done lol

[fresh walrus]

SIgh, yeah

Would be nice to have some equpiment that makes it so we don't immediately get murked when we slip into water though

I always found it weird how we drown so fast even though we're insulated in a suit 🤔

[spark jay]

Yo this looks cool asf

[ionic mica]

working on procedural hallways

buk is working on item and monster spawning

[indigo sequoia]

[ionic mica]

A custom moon would be cool to do, I think it's easier to do than a dungeon

one thing at a time

[indigo sequoia]

it would be real scary if there was a sort of fish jumpscare where when you were walking thru a glass tube something would swim very fast at you and bonk their head or something... that would probs get me to quit the game

[tall cave]

I want this as a new monster

[indigo sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-child-running-away-baby-spooked-gif-23509618

[viscid pecan]

you should be able to see fishies swim by and the ocasional big chonky moster that swims by

or a big monster that bites a corridor out and the place floods

[fathom swan]

need

[maiden crown]

oh my god this is gonna kill me this is brilliant

[storm otter]

This looks incredible! Would be great paired with the Aquatis mod

[native urchin]

This is really cool. Using LethalLib?

[fathom fossil]

Looks vary noice, and wet

[main swallow]

Wait wait, will you be able to see other parts of the facility?

Like through the glass

[proud silo]

can I ask how do you make custom dungeons?

[main swallow]

The guy who made the scp foundation one is making a guide

[fair agate]

neat

[wary tide]

sick more dungeons

[thin isle]

@tall cave let me know if you need someone to test it

[strong marsh]

so sick

[warm musk]

Whenever custom dungeons and custom moons are able to be cross-compatible, would be cool to see this as a potential theme for sfDesat's Aquatis map, or any of the other folks that's looking to do a water-based moon

[ionic mica]

yes

and yea aquatis would pair nicely

if we get around to it it would be cool to make our own moon for it

[dense grotto]

I have to know what the bracken looks like coming out of the sideways vent

also very good idea for DunGen

[spring sundial]

If you have the moon's name, you ca n add it to the dungeongen list in most of the dungeon mods afaik, currently have the scp lab moon generating the scp facility dungeon, with the name Secret Labs

You just need to know what the mod actually refers to the moon as

[dense grotto]

yeah, hoping a mod like lethal quantities will figure out a way to generate configs for DunGen weight

scoopy's currently doesn't work with modded moons but should work the same as SCP in the near future

[warm musk]

Funny you mention that cause I saw that info when taking a glance at the Secret Labs mod, which theoretically means you can do a similar thing with Scoopy's mod with the LE Wateridge eventually

[faint oasis]

yoooooooo that looks sick

[native urchin]

Should be this week

[delicate stratus]

what the heck this looks rad

[tall cave]

Item and monster spawns are working. Fleshing out the navmesh next. Lots of work left to do but making progress!

[kind lark]

wow this is amazing

[wanton eagle]

for now you can put scpbdungeon on any moon as long as you get the syntax right around the name

im going to try in a moment but secret labs works fine, aquatis has numbers in its name so probably i can just put aquatis with no numbers it'll work

[reef spruce]

What are you using to make it?

[fresh walrus]

And you're straight up just making like a guide or template for this stuff too?

[ionic mica]

most of the simple components have been made, working on bulkhead door and a simple hallways piece next. after that All that's needed are some interesting rooms and interior bits to make it interesting.

unfortunately some of the pieces can't be shown as glass in blender because they're in a procedural state and curve bevel objects can't be assigned materials afaik

[native urchin]

Is this in LethalLib?

[ionic mica]

that's a buck question 😅

pretty sure they're using lethal lib

[main swallow]

Are you guys gonna add support beams?

[remote pollen]

would be bad if there "was" a leak 🫠

[bold sonnet]

Damn that is very cool ! Can't wait for the assets upgrade this looks nice

[tidal elm]

I can imagine some "scrap" which generates at the bottom of some pool of water, so you gotta jump down and climb a ladder before drowning, could be like a pearl or clam, maybe even requiring you to hit the clam with a shovel for it to open.

[glad heart]

this is dope

[orchid zodiac]

@delicate ridge

[delicate ridge]

🔥

[fallow edge]

oh lord i was thinking about this before

looks sick

[fathom fossil]

@noble glacier

[simple nest]

Very cool looking interior, will be keeping my eye on it

A random event where the facility starts leaking and you have to find the spot that's leaking to seal it would be cool

[quasi gull]

WOWO

[ionic mica]

yea it would be really cool to have potential flooding inside the facility

not sure how difficult the coding for that would be

[simple nest]

Wouldn't be terribly hard from what I can think of, if it were made to work like subnautica

[kind lark]

how do you enter the moon in this ?

are you going to redesign the ship so its like a submarine

[wanton eagle]

i'd assume from above ground

i would like to see dungeons that have entry procedures and elevators and things though because that makes it harder to just get in and out

[ionic mica]

for now the plan is to just have it part of a vanilla moon

it would be cool to give it its own moon and some idea behind how you actually get down to the dungeon

[dire atlas]

Fingers crossed it doesn't shit the bed if I make it spawn on Aquatis

[fast crane]

FIREEE

[main swallow]

That would be terrifying

But sadly this ain't Subnautica (I think I spelt that wrong)

[remote pollen]

if only 😅

having oxygen upgrades would have more reason to be used

[main plover]

Imagine there was a apparatus like room where instead of turning off the lights when retrieving the apparatus, the item retrieved in this case results in a few leaks that inevitably engulf the entire map with water

[main swallow]

Causes a few rooms to implode but the doors shut in time, "hope nobody was in there ..."

I can't imagine what it would look like to have the rooms flash red

[main plover]

Similar to the firing sequence at the end of a fail quota

[main swallow]

Yeah... That part hurts I dont like it but the effect is cool

[wanton eagle]

moons have dungeons set far below ground and you can in theory make an elevator scene it'd just be hard to connect the elevator to the actual entrance room

[wanton eagle]

facility meltdown is pretty cool

[ionic mica]

yea I have thought of something like that, it would be pretty cool

[wanton eagle]

does something apocalyptic like that

and id love to see a dynamic flooding thing

because diving tool mods exist now and that'd add more use

but re-working dangers and how monsters can use those areas would be hard

[wanton eagle]

cool way to fool with it is use experimentation because zeekerss left all his wip elevator room stuff there

its just behind the main entrance above ground if you use freecammer

[main swallow]

I knew it was somewhere... Damn

Bro forgor

[wanton eagle]

actually there's a whole hand crafted dungeon on top level

its just not finished

[main swallow]

Mhm

[wanton eagle]

its like 15 rooms

2 levels

and there's a second facility in the back of the map

lmao

he also left a shitload of room on the surface of titan

to the point where i think there will be more locations

[main swallow]

Bro Imagine a diving cage 💀

[wanton eagle]

yeah i'd like to see some stuff like that

like just a random shack on titan in the ice fields

ladder down to a weird elevator

suddenly you're in the ocean

[main swallow]

I had an idea where like sublevels existed and you could use the elevators to go to the one below or above

[wanton eagle]

what has to be done is 1. the optimization of the game needs to be developed and 2. the boundaries need to be expanded

[wanton eagle]

yeah my idea for this is each elevator has a random code and you can't reach from main room until you travel down and find the elevator door on that floor

[main swallow]

An scp 087 mod 💀

[wanton eagle]

for the fire escape

fuck yessss

make it so only players holding a cross are immune or something idk

[main swallow]

Ima dm u some dungeon idea I have if that's alr wit u

[wanton eagle]

i mean i dont mind just not promising ill ever make anything i was gonna make some terrain and implement that to start out and havent gotten my old legacy program i like to work yet rofl

[main swallow]

I just wanna share it with u for opinion

[wanton eagle]

word

[tall cave]

navmesh go brrr

[patent spire]

this looks so sick. i wonder if you could use the code from jeb/the company tentacle guy to make like a leviathan enemy that will attack you through cracks in the wall or smth

[oak harness]

Well this looks exciting

[brittle iron]

Are you going to be able to somewhat see through the water to the other corridors?

Can only imagine how funny it would be to see your friends getting chased through the glass

[forest ridge]

FR

[warm musk]

I look through the glass to see a friend got'd by a Coil Head from afar

[ionic mica]

there shouldn't be any reason we can't keep them transparent

there are a few bugs though like being able to see sand worms from afar, but hopefully we can add fog at some point

[native urchin]

you might lose some gameplay value in having far transparency

you might be able to do some really cool fog/camera stuff for this

[spring sundial]

could start the elevator going down, then after a couple of seconds it teleports you into the entrance

into a room with a door like the elevator

[wanton eagle]

i think having the elevator be a part of the facility

and having the front door teleport players into the elevator would make most sense

[spring sundial]

oh true

[wanton eagle]

then monsters can follow into elevator too

and can massacre players at last second lolol

also you can control the height from there so it doesn't clip into the ground

and having it attached to the facility will prevent it from clipping into the facility

[fathom fossil]

i do like the idea of looking thru the glass to see other side, but maybe only be able to see thru the ones close to your hallway

[tall cave]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-scare-shock-monsters-scary-gif-13416424

[fallow edge]

this'd work very well on aquatis

[wanton eagle]

what?

the elevator?

[fallow edge]

love the idea of an elevator entrance

would make monsters doorcamping so much funnier

[wanton eagle]

yeah i think zeekerss intended this for suspense and what not but had to redo because of the way dun gen works

he couldnt let the dungeon build itself into the terrain it needs to be down far

[fallow edge]

entering the facility

[wanton eagle]

so just add a new standalone section at the entrance for elevator

[fallow edge]

since it uses a manhole as a fire exit

[wanton eagle]

it'd still be an illusion but you'd just teleport to the elevator top floor from the entrance door

[fallow edge]

and i havent found the main exit yet 😭

[wanton eagle]

main entrance of aquatis is center of first island

between the trees

[fallow edge]

thats why we couldnt find it

a bracken was camping there

🥲

[wanton eagle]

lol

[west basin]

this mod is somewhat similar to one that ive been working on, but im relieved its different enough to still have their own identities. great progress and i look forward to playing it :)

[rugged siren]

Have you made your own mod thread? I love checking into these and seeing what new things people have been cooking

[west basin]

not yet, mostly because i dont have much to show media wise. but the concept is an aquarium themed dungen with the lighting coming from fish tanks rather than ceiling lights or torches

i want the main entrance room to be similar in size to the mansion main entrance, but with a large whale skeleton hanging from the ceiling

[fresh walrus]

Oh, wow, this is very similar to the one I'm making. And further along, too.

Well, if you can't beat them, join them. I'm willing to help out if you're interested.

[cold onyx]

is this relying on lethal lib, or lethal expansion?

[brittle minnow]

Lethalexpansion doesn't even have custom dungeon support, so it's very likely LethalLib

[cold onyx]

fair enough

[ionic mica]

lethal lib im pretty sure

[oak harness]

pretty rough you cant have custom moons and interiors on the same modlist (stable) lol

[warm musk]

Yeah especially since every level has both as a component to it

[cold onyx]

You can, if said moons arent lethal expansion reliant

The problem is people keep making moons that are

Theres a moon called orion thats downloadable and works, unsure how buggy it is nowadays,

It did get a large rework recently i do know so idk lol

[oak harness]

Oh did Orion drop its reliance on LE?

Huge if true lol

[cold onyx]

Wait fuck

Im remembering wrong

[oak harness]

dang

pretty much every moon ive seen has LE reliance

might try LE core idk

[cold onyx]

Im gonna do a dive to find any that arent

[warm musk]

The only moon I know that does not rely on LE is Ooblterra

That's it

[cold onyx]

Yeah,,,

[oak harness]

oof
scoopy's interior would look so good on wateridge or orion

no clue where else it would fit so iu just slapped it onto offense and assurance

[warm musk]

They would, I actually did Wateridge + Scoopy and it blends nicely together

[cold onyx]

For real,,

[cold onyx]

Vow maybe? March?

Idk somewhere where you dotn see much building

[oak harness]

i think march wont allow it due to fire exit count

maybe that was a different mod

[warm musk]

Nah it was Scoopy's

[cold onyx]

Oh yea, march cant bc the fire exit thing,,,

That was scoopys yea

[warm musk]

It's weird, it doesn't work for March but then when I test Scoopy's for Kast (which has 2 fire exits), it works

I just went ???

[cold onyx]

Test to see if the mod's fire exits work?

If they are blocked then its an error from trying to connect the FE to the one outside

I thought only one FE would spawn tho, if one did

March was coded to not work specifically bc of the fire exits being broken

[main swallow]

Reasonably you should be able to stop coil head by looking through the glass but that's me, I wouldn't like it prob either.

[high vault]

looks sick but i think with textures it will look even more sicker

[ionic mica]

not likely that coilheads will get stopped through glass

[native urchin]

mine but its unreleased 😄

[nocturne pivot]

Batby is also not LE, but i mean batby is the one literally working on lethalibs moon stuff now LOL

In all honesty while I appreciate the attempt most LE moons are not that great, partially due to designs from the authors themselves but also just noticeable incompatibility with other things (like interior mods)

Im literally a dumbass I just did not read the username

[onyx tusk]

this looks sick, hell yeah, cant wait!

[tall cave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1192936292573515777/1193111516283674674/image.png

Fixed some bugs with the monster AI today and got the asparagus in for some testing 💡

[haughty merlin]

ooh are we gonna have an apparatus room??

or asparagus, sorry

[west basin]

why is this man not pink???

moderators, pink this man immediately

[ionic mica]

got a few more room assemblies near done, the spiral staircase room needs some lighting though

worried a bit about poly count, may need to trim things down a fair bit 😅

[simple nest]

love the subnautica-esque pipes and glass

[main plover]

Is that flooding I’m seeing????

[warm musk]

Hm I wonder how easy it'll be for someone to port over an LE map to LLib when the time actually comes

Looks like sfDesat doesn't plan to port Orion/Aquatis over to LLib themself

[bronze quest]

Do you still have to override another moon to make a moon using Lethal lib?

Cause that was my previous dealbreaker

[delicate ridge]

you have to override a moon? what the fuck is that type of API that is absolutely horrendous

[native urchin]

You won’t no and that’s also now how it actually works

[bronze quest]

Ah okay

That's what Ooblterra does

[native urchin]

Not intentionally i

SkullCrusher had/has a bug that makes that weird

[bronze quest]

Once/if there's a proper tutorial for LLib moons I'll definitely switch to that

Since I don't really like LethalExpansion is handled

[storm otter]

Are there stairs in this dungeon type or is it completely flat? never mind just saw vertical levels in a picture

Dungen lets you add a y level condition for room spawn right? Someone mentioned a leak but a much more doable version of that idea would be a flooded bottom floor that you can only get in or out of with ladders (or a modded solution), it could use all the same room types/rules just submerged. Would be absolutely terrifying to have to descend into the dark water to get valuable scrap and make it out before you drown

[maiden crown]

hey so, how will this handle viewing the map above it? with there being transparent walls, couldn't you look up and see the exterior of the moon above the dungeon?

[edgy slate]

neither

it's super irritating for me since I very often make modpacks for friends and it messes so much stuff up

and doesn't allow you to remove waterside, which to me just looks and plays like a kind of shitty test map

[rugged siren]

I remember when Orion was the first of the custom moons so I got it to test it out and wondered why tf a test moon and waterside were in there, LE is such a bloated mod it's unreal

[edgy slate]

yeah, I appreciate LECore existing but LE is a dependency for moons on mod managers, and it absolutely refuses to let me use LECore instead, even when I edited the files to try and remove the dependency, it just refused to open

[mortal shell]

I've used LE core just fine with custom moons. Just leave both mods enabled, and the core mod will auto-disable LE when you boot the game

[rugged siren]

I was using LECore for a woopiecushion change so it wasn't conductive in stormy weather, turns out that also messes with the game, it can cause custom dungeons to have their fire exits report as blocked on subsequent visits to moons

[edgy slate]

both mods meaning the moon and LE?

[mortal shell]

Yeah, I do believe that LECore won't get around the LE issue of breaking custom interiors unfortunately, that's an inherent issue on how LE implements custom moons, which the core mod still has.

But ignoring interiors, LECore works fine with custom moons

[edgy slate]

yeah

[mortal shell]

The problem is IN the core, so LE core won't help, lol

[edgy slate]

yer

[mortal shell]

At least, theoretically. I've been meaning to test it with my friend group, but they haven't been on for a few days

[edgy slate]

why can't you test it alone?

[mortal shell]

The incompatibilities with LE and custom interior mods mainly effects non-hosts. I've read it works fine for the host, but others either get an infinite loading screen, or fall through the level.

[edgy slate]

I just only use custom dungeons (scp and scoopys) on vanilla moons

apart from march

honestly I don't like the scp interior because it tends to be so repetitive to the point where I just get lost, but it has some cool mechanics and my friends like it so I keep it in

might just be a skill issue on my part

[modest musk]

yeah same i love the aesthetic of the scp interior but it just seemed completely barren of scrap and repetitive with the same hallway generating forever

[dire atlas]

well i mean

thats scp containment breach for ya lol

you're getting the authentic experience

[modest musk]

true lol

[rustic peak]

same especially if ur friends are picky with mods

[dire atlas]

LethalExpansionCore

its a mod that disables all the extra bullshit from LethalExpansion

oh fuck

maybe if i read like

2 more messages down

LMAO

sorry

oh wait

so when you have LethalExpansionCore installed it overrides the main LethalExpansion mod and disables it entirely on launch

so yes you have to still install the main mod but it gets disabled by the Core mod internally

[sterile charm]

Lethal Expansion Core is definitely debloated compared to normal LE. However, any conflicts LE normally has with modded interiors for example, still occur.

[dire atlas]

oh yeah for sure

i mainly bring it up cuz he was talking about that test map

[haughty merlin]

man i just cant wait for different tools, lethal expansion is def a great start but we def have a lot better things to come

people are making new ways to make this stuff work right?

[simple nest]

LethalLevelLoader (being build on LethalLib) is what's planned to be the main interior handling mod

in combination with moons that is

[haughty merlin]

love to hear it

[haughty merlin]

Love it, will def have to be faster in game to match the normal door gameplay but it’s really good ^^

[ionic mica]

yea shortened it to 1 second and it looks about right

it'll still take longer than the existing door but it can only go so fast without looking silly

it's like a 1000lb door probably

[covert scarab]

You know how many rooms you plan on adding?

Also if you can actually see out of the glass are you putting in a blue box or something so you don't see skybox and the moon outside?

[modest musk]

i don't think the slower doors are bad, each interior should have their own quirks to make them stand out more

[native urchin]

nah slower doors get annoying fast

the more repetitive something is the longer it's gonna feel

[modest musk]

i disagree, i think it's totally okay for interiors to have different strengths and weaknesses. it can help maps feel distinct and unique.

[native urchin]

The weakness is just that the dungeon feels more tedious though

[modest musk]

i guess this really is a difference of perspective haha but little things like doors taking slightly longer to open can create some really intense moments especially if you're running from an enemy.

[native urchin]

Possibly for rarer doors, perhaps

[modest musk]

i can totally see how someone could find it tedious but i mostly see it as a fun map quirk to change the pace a lil

[simple nest]

I think having slow doors scattered around is fine to break up areas, otherwise half the game becomes opening doors

It's why I ended up making doors in SCP just frames 2/3rds of the time

[modest musk]

the doors are my favorite part of the scp map! i'm weird in the sense that i looooove little quirks in things that can help change the way you play and strategize with a particular situation, it's partially why i love LC so much! you have to constantly change your strategy depending on the dungeon, enemies that spawn and other little things here and there, for me it adds replayability. although i can sympathize with why some people are particular about door speeds and stuff similar to that.

[wanton eagle]

dunno if you saw but the core version got updated to fix this

[sterile charm]

Thanks, I will try this and see if the fire exits no longer have issues on my list

[warm musk]

The same update seems to have also fixed the issue of thunderstorms indoors so I'll check that out tonight if I can . < .

Can confirm, lightning bug is in fact fixed

[covert scarab]

the huh

[ionic mica]

the doors are gonna have to be something that's tested for feel, I'm gonna er on slightly faster but stiller longer than a regular door

too fast and it looks silly, too slow and it does become tedious, I agree though that it should be a balance between quirkiness but not too tedious.

[ionic mica]

no plans for any specific amount, right now I'm trying to get the minimum amount needed and then after that I'll start going into unique rooms and interior detailing

would be nice to do some derelict sections but those require some extra attention

[rugged siren]

I'd love to see some damaged tiles make use of water as a hazard for slowing the player or even drowning

[wanton eagle]

the game might be able to support this with some tricks but i feel like its kind of a hard ask

i dont see why not tho

[rugged siren]

Yeah I have no idea how water is handled, thought it'd be sort of a cubic area

[wanton eagle]

its a certain area of the terrain but the water is always level throughout the whole world from what i've seen

[simple nest]

flooded moons already raise the water over time

and it's just a volume

[wanton eagle]

well if you can make a new one and make it small enough for a room then voila

right?

just add in some animated thingamabob where the glass is cracked

lookin like water

😛

[native urchin]

nah you can totally do flooded rooms

i think u can even use dungen to help

[tall cave]

Got the apparatus fully working last night. Turret and trip mine spawns are next then that's full vanilla functionality besides door keys? Flooded areas are totally on the list (I think this would be an especially cool event after the apparatus gets pulled).

[analog linden]

Looks cool af

[thin isle]

There is a mod called facility meltdown don't know if that will help with the flooding thing when you pull it

@tall cave also bioshock vibes

[main plover]

“Hey buddy, why are you making puddle noises when u run?”
-Looks down
“THE AREAS FLOODING MOVE MOVE MOVE!”

[main swallow]

"hull integrity decreasing, implosion imminent. Evacuate the @&*#- Immediately."

[woven crow]

You might need to make the doorways a little bit wider to avoid clipping by small enemies like in the gif and some big clipping with large enemies such as the crawler/thumper.

[tall cave]

These are prototype pieces not representative of the final mod

[woven crow]

Don't worry. I just wanted to warn you about a possible issue you might run across at some point ^^

Just gonna leave this here as it might come in handy:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/

Finally some more competition for LE

[haughty merlin]

do the moons made prior to this work with this mod?

[woven crow]

I have not tested this yet. I'm in my bed as we speak lol. I mainly linked this here so that guys behind Halal Labs can check it out.

[haughty merlin]

ohhh

gotcha

[native urchin]

No, as current moons utalise LethalSDK/Expansion components where as LLL uses basegame ones

[tall cave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1192936292573515777/1193923965152923729/image.png?ex=65ae7b57&is=659c0657&hm=04cf5654a3158ed6dc790af926083c05f5d92e514b884641189f6350d01fc767&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1181&height=675

Map hazard spawns are sorted, v47 broke dungeon gen so working through that atm.

[warm musk]

Looking good and saw that, Scoopy's had to do some adjustments for theirs to be compatible with v47

[tall cave]

yes seems the move is LLL? Maybe batby or badham can chime in.

[covert scarab]

Yeah scoopys now has LLL as a dependency, I don’t really get exactly what it does. I’m not nerdy enough for that

[dire atlas]

LLL will have better inherent compatability with custom moons as it's built off of LethalLib

Or some shit like that

It's an API capable of building both custom moons and custom dungeons

[sudden lance]

Wish it had documentation
The wiki on it just says “todo”

[bronze quest]

I believe they rushed to get the mod out

so documentation is probably lacking right now

[dire atlas]

Just ask the dev and they can help in the meantime

Theres a forum post over in #1175883003474485369

[woven crow]

That's probably what he's working on right now

[sudden lance]

Yea

Might wait for documentation and a template mod

Before I start with my moons and interiors

[tall cave]

I'm going off of scoopy's source on thunderstore

will report back of any explosions

[tall cave]

It works :), thank you scoopy and batby

[warm musk]

Ah got the dungen to work with v47?

[tall cave]

even better, v49! Someone tell zeekers to chill

[warm musk]

ikr, surprised me to see a second hotfix suddenly this morning

[nocturne pivot]

Has there been any thought on decoration outside of the windows to sell the ambiance? Like seaweed, maybe a shader or smthn?

Really vibing with this so far and I'd love to see the view from the windows get spiced up

Just wanted to say love this so far, have a friend who loves this type of architecture and is looking forward to this a lot as well: ) take ur time stuff looks awesome

[tall cave]

These are all prototype dungeon tiles not reflective of the final product. Currently fleshing out vanilla game functionality and using them for testing. @ionic mica has the final pieces in the works and they look great. Hoping to do all sorts of environmental effects to supplement the dungeon tiles.

[native urchin]

Let me know if you need anything 💖

[covert scarab]

ooo hadal is jumping on LLL?

if that and the vanilla structures get a config for specific rarity values on each moon then I can make perfect sexy pick percents

[simple nest]

good to see at least LLL is at least the de-facto interior support mod, if LE/core compat can be worked out maybe world peace is possible after all

[warm musk]

Looks like LECore's been trying to get compatibility to LLL as of recently

As noted by these changes for LECore

[devout oak]

[sterile charm]

The modder handling LECore is awesome honestly

[tall cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177864663644508231/1194491564181950554/New_video.mp4?ex=65b08bf5&is=659e16f5&hm=163644a292f0340cf622a9d6d26d442c29b599459ca17a6852a0298b9bcb3058&

Multiplayer testing was a success?

[maiden crown]

hm. the textures could maybe use a little bit of detail other than g r a y?

[tall cave]

These are prototype pieces we are using to get vanilla dungeon functionality working, final pieces/textures are still cookin : )

[rustic peak]

looks sick, but it would be nice if the water was darker, so it looks scarier. I ud erstand tho that this is still WIP

[tall cave]

Thankfully all the base features are working so we can focus on that now 🫡

[kind lark]

i hope it wlll look scarier on release to fit the games atmosphere

[azure solstice]

I just can't wait to get people to download this when it's available and terrify my thallasaphobic friends.

[native urchin]

theres some really cool fog and post processing effects unity offers that they can use to make it look sick

[simple nest]

Making it more rustic and adding some kelp/misc objects outside the dungeon would do wonders for atmosphere

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/510000440872534036/1194493364851200101/215C05D9B7B6FFBD281449A28A05A520526E6B80.png?ex=65b08da2&is=659e18a2&hm=6b3cd4c0b2f3abf93b69eb4eaa9bdd82ce9e654bdf6902514ddf0f40cba293ac&

[fathom swan]

YES

[kind lark]

oh that level is so good

Levithan

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2112576356&searchtext=

but yeah if you make it look close to that it will be insane

as the image he posted i mean

the rust adds to the atmosphere of the detail of being scarier

too

your level looks so modernized

[haughty merlin]

i know this map from anywhere lol

oh there it is

[kind lark]

hehe

[rustic peak]

bet

[haughty merlin]

whats the black shadow moving at the top middle at the end of the video?

are we gonna have things floating in the water?

[ionic mica]

sand worm

hopefully we can try out fog some time to eliminate a lot of the issues

Once I get to texturing I'd like to add more rustic looking textures but that will be a long process probably

we'll likely do flat shading to test the new meshes before texturing

latest pieces

[native urchin]

I can talk to some or two of my artist friends, I'm pretty sure theres some cool stuff with you can play with where you could do a big fog volume incasing the dungeon and then not render it for the player but render it through the glass if that makes sense

[ionic mica]

oh that would be amazing

[native urchin]

honestly as someone who's used unity quite abit im just curious in general how to approach the issue

[ionic mica]

I actually wanted to do a super tall piece but decided against it since the fog might show up in the interiors, that might make my idea possible

I have 0 unity experience 😅

[native urchin]

worstcase you can just make the dungeon lower

the dungeon being below the moon is literally the dungeongenerator gameobject having a -200 y position

[ionic mica]

yea

-y being down I assume 💀

[native urchin]

yee

[ionic mica]

I will never understand that convention lol

[ionic mica]

I wanna do this with a lot of interesting things on the outside, like sunken ships or maybe some ruins, kelp is a good idea

[haughty merlin]

i have some past experience texturing in unreal engine if you needed help, but idk how different unity handles it

[ionic mica]

I appreciate it. I have a fair bit of experience texturing but only individual objects never large tilesets. I think the typical workflow is to use trimsheets but I have 0 experience with that.

[fast crane]

dude this is so beautiful

[ionic mica]

doh

thanks

hopefully I can make it less clean

[fast crane]

no like this would honestly reach high up in the community's mod favorites

[native urchin]

btw incase you don't know, water in lc is just 1 plane with the water material and box collider with a quicksand component tagged as water

so if you want water in certain rooms it just kinda works

[ionic mica]

is there a way with water planes to have it only extend to the edges of the room?

[ionic mica]

heheh I hope so 😅

Buck is doing most of the hard work tbh, everything I'm doing is mostly in my wheel house

[fast crane]

definitely

[ionic mica]

I get to do the 'fun' stuff

[fast crane]

nah the quality of this is already so insane 😭

[ionic mica]

lol appreciate it

[native urchin]

wym

ohhh like it masks?

[ionic mica]

my worry with the water plane is if we used a rectangle it would show up outside of the room

if the room is for example a transparent cylinder

or lets say the sphere room for this example

[native urchin]

in that situation, since you guys seem to be fairly art pilled

if you just make a plane the shape of the floor

you can get away with using mesh colliders

[ionic mica]

hmmm okok

the dream is to have the water able to rise in the rooms

without showing up outside

but that may be too ambitious, and a bit of scope creep

[native urchin]

usually you wouldnt want to because mesh collider stuff doesn't scale super well with verts and its not amazing for workflow since you would need to make for the tiles but

not the worst option

if that fog option i mentioned works you could make do stuff that route too (hide the water through the glass)

[ionic mica]

yea lemme know if you talk to your friends on that

super curious

[simple nest]

classic unreal

[ionic mica]

Here's all of the tileset pieces so far

[native urchin]

Might be good resource

https://bdts.com.au/tips-and-resources/unity-create-windows-portals-using-stencils-with-the-universal-render-pipeline-urp.html

[haughty merlin]

will we have any tilesets where we have to make a jump across something? maybe like a water pit ¯_(ツ)_/¯ idk

would be cool i think cause we’d be able to have a chance to get out (extension ladders)

[ionic mica]

yea we have challenge tilesets in mind

no spoilers though 💀

[simple nest]

a moonpool would be cool, no idea how that'd be implemented though

[ionic mica]

I think doing something like that would be easy, but if someone fell in that might be difficult to implement

I would really like to do a moonpool with a submarine though

[haughty merlin]

Lootable docked sub? 👀

Oh here’s a way you can implement that, hold on ill make a crappy doodle

[tall cave]

crappy doodles are best doodles second to golden doodles

[haughty merlin]

So when i thought of this i thought of the room with the big hole in the center (from the factory dungeon), im thinking of something like this
The color codes I’ll explain below:
Red = sub
Light blue = openable doors that you can find loot in, not to walk in though (kinda like lockers)
Green = entry ways, not all markings have to be mandatory tbh it could be a 2 way room as well
Black = room/static environment

What do y’all think?

Btw i only say the sub should not be enterable because you’d probably be able to cheese ai in there

[ionic mica]

yea I like the idea

that one might be later down the line since a submarine is a fair bit of work

but I would love to make a submarine design

[haughty merlin]

Yeah, it prob would be

It does seem like you guys have a base for that type of room already when i take a look at the tileset pieces you guys got going

[tall cave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1192936292573515777/1194579095208591410/image.png?ex=65b0dd7a&is=659e687a&hm=ba59c0cc2e3f285b1d2ca58bfc0e86e299e242c5c2c1243ef50b5939a34fe531&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1192936292573515777/1194578877842993152/image.png?ex=65b0dd46&is=659e6846&hm=c7d6a11067c2de7aa15c873f272cadc698852da6c3e3d9f401ffa186c2e9442e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[ebon wren]

Yooooo

RTX ON

Is that actually in game lighting

[tall cave]

yes

[fleet dome]

loookin good !

[nocturne pivot]

👀👀👀👀👀

Huge

Love how that looks

[ebon wren]

Actually so insane

[modest musk]

my beloved

[ebon wren]

I needs it

I wants it

What dependency does this mod have?

[tall cave]

BepInEx, LethalLib, and LethalLevelLoader

[ebon wren]

LLL

Let's GOOOOO

Mod couldn't get any better

[rugged siren]

We love dungeons, we love Batby and the hard working individuals who make great contributions to this game

[neon sundial]

Do you plan to add alien fish swimming outside?

It'll become the sickest dungeon mod.

[ebon wren]

That's a cool idea

[neon sundial]

Image a weird ass staring at you from outside

Good enough to make a Thalassophobic person die of heart attack

[ionic mica]

I still want to make a kraken in the distance

[cloud yacht]

kracken bracken skin?

[tall cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192936292573515777/1194530662917607515/Lethal_Company_2024-01-09_22-36-46.mp4?ex=65b0b05f&is=659e3b5f&hm=cd16eab8fcdc9ada4ef62ffc423fe9b137537c6413ed9fcce011a60eb692853f&

@cloud yacht's door work

[clever spoke]

i count at least 5 brackens in this video

[tall cave]

I didn't even notice lol

[indigo oxide]

Can monstesr jump the railing?

You showed previously that you can jump over the railing to walk on the sides next to it, on the glass, so can you just avoid spiders and stuff that way, or?

[wanton eagle]

facility meltdown doesnt work on modded moons at the moment though :/

and it might need patching to work with this

[rugged siren]

Do lockpickers work if they are locked? 🙏

[tall cave]

They should once we get locked doors working?

[tall cave]

These are prototype pieces, final design is vastly different from these.

[rugged siren]

I had an issue with lockpicker locations on Scoopy's, they just eat my lockpickers :(

So I was just making sure

[tall cave]

On the radar, thanks for bringing this up.

[native urchin]

@tall cave @ionic mica figured it out, let me know if you need help

[tall cave]

Uhh yes absolutely

[rugged siren]

That's soo damn cool

[native urchin]

i think you can also use blend distance to make it so you can see a little bit past the bounds of the negative volume too

so you can see a little out but not fully

[covert scarab]

This is fog?

[native urchin]

yup

using priority and invert blend you can make negative space fogs

[native urchin]

@tall caveooo basic box and sphere textures will probably get you far enough already but i think this thing unity has a thing called "SDF Bake Tool Window" might let you turn meshes into a usuable 3d texture to use for your negative space fog volumes

so you could have accurate negative spaces

looks like it has padding options too so it could be the size of the room + padding so you get a short distance of negative space outside the room to see vaguely into adjecent rooms

[covert scarab]

ok but what is negative fog exactly?

[native urchin]

negative fog is a fog that renders ontop of another fog, but because it is using inverse blend its fog is negative

which in this case means it 0 fog

so 0 fog rendering infront of real fog means you can remove fog from specific areas

[warm musk]

So the idea is you make one big patch of fog for the entire map, but then use smaller patches of negative fog for passages and rooms or something of that nature?

[native urchin]

the negative fog volumes can just be in the tile prefabs themselves

so itll do it all automagically

[rustic peak]

do you think negative fog will work with HDlethalcomapny disablign fog setting?

[native urchin]

depends on how that works

if it literally finds and disables all fog

no that would break

[rustic peak]

oh ok thanks, guess I willl have to renable fog for this mod, worth losing the frames

[simple nest]

Would the performance impact of negative space volumes be proportional to the complexity of it? If so might be better to do either simplified models or primitives due to the frequency

[native urchin]

I have no idea

i could see it going either way tbh

i think that sdf conversion tool unity has would let you crunch the model via its settings anyway

[simple nest]

Guess it'd depend on implementation by Unity

[thin isle]

I know but he could have talked to them to get something working

[wanton eagle]

^

[thin isle]

Mhm and from my testing it does work on modded moons unless something broke

[wanton eagle]

it did but a bunch of people reported it broke

maybe thats just the lethal expansion core problem with dependencies

cause i dont have that issue

[thin isle]

At least people can move from LE to lethal level loader

As LLL is much better than it

[wanton eagle]

not really for custom moons though so?

right now people still need LE

and LE is where you get the SDK so 😐

[thin isle]

LLL is made for custom moons the and everyone is moving to it

Look at the guy who made Egypt

Next update he moving to it

[wanton eagle]

ok but that's not this update

[thin isle]

So did spooky the guy who made the dungeon interior

[wanton eagle]

i just don't get why you're already taking the position of problem solved all this stuff is under construction rn

some people might not move

because whos paying them to care

[thin isle]

What am.just talking to you now

[native urchin]

Due to how both API's mess with the same systems, there's only so much we can do about comptability

[wanton eagle]

yeah its up to the people who made those moons

personally i wouldnt just give up like atlas abyss if they didnt move id hang on for as long as possible lul

[native urchin]

The author of Atlas Abyss is more than welcome to hit me up regarding the process 😄

[warm musk]

Last I checked the dev that made Orion & Aquatis wasn't interested in converting their maps off of LE for now at least

Least LethalExpansionCore is a saving grace for some level of compatibility between it and LLL

[tranquil sorrel]

i'm hyped for this one

i wish i knew how to make moons and dungeons for lethal company

[sudden lance]

Then why not learn?

[tranquil sorrel]

i mean is there even a tutorial?

[unborn hazel]

the atlas abyss author put that they're looking into LLL in the upcoming section in the description of their moons on thunderstore

[wanton eagle]

word

well its not gonna hurt me any as long as i keep the worlds im using

secret labs and ether are the others

[native urchin]

Where are they contactable?

[unborn hazel]

@lyric stratus

[dire atlas]

#1193657447290769489

[stable lake]

The mod appears simply before our eyes, wow!
I'm really looking forward to it

[tranquil sorrel]

it should be cool adding fishes outside

it's gonna be funny seeing people who has thalasophobia playing this lol

[rugged siren]

Honestly I'm in the same boat, I feel like I'd be able to make stuff with blender and unity but have no idea where to start

[tranquil sorrel]

we are two my guy

i'm a artist i do want to do some stuff for this amazing game

i'm legit having alot of fun playing this game lol

anyways i'm really hyped for this dungeon

looking forward for it!

[simple nest]

if you have plans and modelling skills I've got SCP open sourced to analyse and can answer any questions you have

or once I've got SCP to a state I'm happy with could coop on it if you're not confident on the implementation half

[tranquil sorrel]

i never modeled in my life lol, but nothing is worth learning it!

[tall cave]

I started unity and c# two weeks ago (I am a python developer by trade though). I say go for it!

[sudden lance]

even such as concept art can be really helpful for creating things

[nova arrow]

i want to learn 3d modelling more so i can make shit too

I made this for a concept art i posted in zeekers server, something that would hunt the ship person.

it was just fnaf logic, i might repost it in mod ideas hehe

[delicate ridge]

dayum he standing fruity

[nova arrow]

he is fruity

[grave crystal]

idk if anyone has said this yet but itd be pretty spooky if you could see scary fish creatures outside maybe some would bump and or shake/ rumble the facility a bit for added immersion

[devout oak]

I second Big Spooky Fish as ambient decoration

[nocturne pivot]

I reccomend plastic fish

[ionic mica]

oooh rumbling would be cool

kind of like the rumbling at the company building when you sell something

[covert scarab]

I like that one

[ionic mica]

working on big spooky fish right now

just finished texturing

[haughty merlin]

could make them swim above the ceiling of the spawnable parts of the facility so they dont clip through it

[ionic mica]

yea that shouldn't be an issue

At least I think not, maybe I shouldn't say anything 💀

[maiden crown]

how will the fibsh work? will it just be decoration? a hazard?

[ionic mica]

just decoration

[fathom swan]

but what if it could be a hazard

breaking glass, causing flooding

[ionic mica]

💀

you overestimate our abilities lol

we would like to have a flooding mechanic but that's like a big stretch goal

[maiden crown]

cool

i'd recommend not going for making any hazards until the mod is atleast finished and playable

still looks excellent so far

[ionic mica]

yea custom hazards and custom AI stuff are pretty advanced I think

we could probably figure it out with enough time but we're trying to get just the custom dungeon out for now

[maiden crown]

custom ai might not even be possible, because the custom dungeon could be anywhere and enemy spawning is connected to moon, not dungeon

[native urchin]

Doesn't have to be 😉

[maiden crown]

[native urchin]

i have ideas

[spiral reef]

amazing. keep up the good work!

[covert scarab]

fishy fish fish

[thin isle]

@slate copper

[slate copper]

thank u fren

will give this a gander

[thin isle]

From what I know most of the tile sets are done

Probably won't be long before bata testing happens

[slate copper]

I am so ready for this

[west cave]

this is so awesome

[tall cave]

soon

[fresh walrus]

Are you suggesting there's a way to make specific enemy types spawn only in specific rooms or from specific spawn vents?

I suppose you could make a script that functionally stonewalls any spawning attempts if the spawner isn't in a specific type of tile? I haven't fiddled with DunGen by hand yet, so I'm not sure what all it's capable of.

IIRC, monsters spawn from vents in the walls, would there be a way to check for which vent / where the vents are?

[nova arrow]

This is probably what everyone is hoping for too, it’s exciting. No rush or even need to but it’s a cool thought, technically however it seems really hard

I could imagine a vertically playing dungeon where after taking the apparatus or some time passes leaks start showing up before the dungeon inevitably implodes

(FacilityMeltdown.jpg)

[rustic peak]

wait for the moonserr mod to finish for guidance for custom ai

[verbal blade]

dungeon exclusives hazzards are a thing that all interiors mod should have, by hazzards I mean the map itself having something to be carefull of, not the creatures themselves

[slow vale]

small suggestion i think the major progress updates with pics/vids should be pinned, i'd love to keep up with this project but i'm a lurker :)

[rustic peak]

it would be nice if pin all screenshots from now on

[simple nest]

if only discord let thread makers pin stuff in their threads

[rustic peak]

im pretty sure u can

[simple nest]

nope

[rustic peak]

yea

you can

[native urchin]

not atleast with this servers perms

[simple nest]

nope you can't

[rustic peak]

#1182523433221902376 message

this thread

has pinned messages

[simple nest]

yeah the mods pinned them

[rustic peak]

oh

I see what ur saying now

thought you meant it wasnt possible

[sudden lance]

fire in the hole

would be quite a nice feature

but discord would never add a useful feature

[rustic peak]

but then im sure there is a website where you can upload images in some sort of gallery

[tall cave]

I agree

[ionic mica]

who do we have to bribe to get the pink mod role

or do we need to release the mod first

I think that would be good motivation if we need to release the mod to get the role, I am very mod role motivated.

[rustic peak]

lol I literally said the same idea and I did not realize you wrote that so it looked like I copied you 🤣

[simple nest]

release a mod or prove you've got one in some kind of functional state of development (even if not released yet)

[ionic mica]

oh it's pretty functional right now, we're just waiting on a few things like the new tilesets and some other functionality

we even have some funny gameplay footage somewhere up above

[ionic mica]

here

we also want to do some internal testing before release

[simple nest]

should be able to get one of the admins to assign your role then

[blazing tiger]

I have an odd but quick question, will this be compatible with facility meltdown?

[civic gulch]

I think they gotta actually finish the mod before they think about compatibility with other mods.

[ionic mica]

^

[verbal blade]

JUST in case this was not planned yet, some ambience sounds like whales, bending metal sounds due to pressure and underwater drone sfx would be great

[covert scarab]

Don’t see why it wouldn’t work unless it’s built into the factory interior

[ionic mica]

Sounds would be pretty important i agree. I think thats our biggest skill gap

We have some ideas though

[civic gulch]

Another possible idea for when then water breaches is a loud siren just give people heart attacks.

[rugged siren]

Any sort of creaking sounds you'd expect to hear underwater, those sorts of ambient sounds suit it perfectly

https://youtu.be/l9sc2Mw2gvk?si=bdY3tHhQ11Pd4cG9

[warm musk]

Hm out of curiosity does the mansion have any of its own unique insanity ambient sounds or are they shared between both vanilla interiors?

[rugged siren]

I believe it does, I've never heard the clock ambient sounds in the facility dungeon

[native urchin]

each level can supply their own library of ambient noises, manor does use a different one yeah

[tall cave]

This is great

[verbal blade]

Oh yeah, a mechanic like moon map from cod zombies

Having to hack something to prevent an event that makes it really risky to be around some parts of the dungeon, forcing a player to stay on ship and interact with the map or making the players have to find an interactable object to prevent this from happening

Thats waaay too ambicious i know lol, but its fun to brainstorm ideas

[tall cave]

Fire Exits are working 🙂 (No this door model and lights are not representative of the final product, just prototyping and the blue makes it easy to find).

[tranquil sorrel]

this is about to be so peak man

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[indigo oxide]

Scoopys uses blue for the fire exit, so you could do that too if you wanted to

[mystic wing]

holy sheeet i actually love that blue lighting tho

[nocturne pivot]

I do like that the fire exit is blue

Looking awesome btw

Might wanna see if it breaks or not on march, since that one has 4 fire exits

[native urchin]

Won’t break because this is using LLL 💪

[slate copper]

we love LLL

[nocturne pivot]

Awesome 👍

[thin isle]

Hell yeah

[nocturne pivot]

Wasnt sure if LLL had fixed the fire exit issue with custom interiors or not yet

Good to hear

[fathom fossil]

More like 💧💧💧💧

[muted surge]

what intrior mods are in the works? im excited for em

[fallen gull]

when will this have a beta or release?

[mortal shell]

I know of Scoopy's Variety Mod (dungeon interior), SCPFoundationDungeon, ScarletDevilMansion, Ooblterra, the creator of E Gypt is apparently making a pyramid interior, and of course Hadal Labratories.

[warm musk]

Makes sense that E Gypt would get a more fitting interior developed, there doesn't exist a thematically cohesive interior currently to match the map's theme

[indigo oxide]

everything KM323 said, and Backrooms, and IAmBatby has shown interest in making an interior mod once they finish their More moons mod.

Also Scoopy has said they're going to do another interior once they finish up a few more rooms for the castle interior.

there's a few people who have asked about the process of making interiors, and might be working on them, but they haven't made a thread for them yet, so who knows.

[mortal shell]

Backrooms isn't quite the same, but it's defintiely noteable. LLL doesn't have much documentation yet, so I assume we'll get quite a few more interior mods in the coming months as things get more documented

[indigo oxide]

Honestly wish the backrooms mod was a whole interior mod. It's neat to be randomly teleported there from the other interiors, but the backrooms themselves fit the theme of the game just as well as the SCP foundation, so they could easily fit as their own interior.

[sudden lance]

I also may be making something at somepoint
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1195174282364473375

[dire field]

Is there a thread for scarlet mansion?

[clever spoke]

#1195583267546595389

[dire field]

Ty! I want all the interiors followed I super hype for both of these

[tall cave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1192936292573515777/1196046911543717908/image.png?ex=65b6347d&is=65a3bf7d&hm=5780677b8b694b9357213107cc170892e03d21fb6a3740ba731a7f9b192f7f58&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1243&height=676

Trying to do daily updates when I can. Working on a flooding mechanic and here is a snapshot of the learning process lol

[ember scaffold]

now model a reaper leviathan patrolling.

[rustic peak]

do you think later on, it will be possible to do this on the facility

[tall cave]

This is what the end goal is

[indigo oxide]

This Flooding mechanic. Will it be like the pipe mist leaks that we can turn off?

[tall cave]

I think for initial release the plan is to have minor flooding after pulling the aparatus

The idea is you wouldn't drown but in later releases we want to utilize the scuba tanks from late game items

[maiden crown]

glug glug glug ikm drowningb mglllblbllblbbb,lblbblbllblblblblblblbl

[nova arrow]

YIPEEEEEe

me when i see my friends body float up after he pulled the apparatus

[rugged siren]

I like the idea here but what if people aren't using the late game upgrades mod? 🤔

[mystic wing]

since theres verticality extension ladders might be barely enough to explroe the map if its flooded?

jetpacks work underwater but thats abit scuffed

[unborn hazel]

advanced company has flippers that allow swimming, plus then you have a dedicated boots slot for them

[turbid canopy]

A little suggestion not sure if anyone mentioned, you could make a "dummy" rooms that all purpose they would serve is atmosphere/ambience and general vibe, like you can see a flooded room from a different room with broken glass and generally rusted and the door to that room is closed with like water particles from the sides implying it barely holds it down

[rustic peak]

oh nice

[river raven]

This looks incredibly cool

[ionic mica]

low effort update monday

[warm musk]

Interesting entry way(?) of sorts 🤔 and sub

[ionic mica]

submarines are tricky, might work in quads to get a better looking one

yea the elevator is the lobby, at least that's the plan

it won't be a functional elevator though unless that can happen later

but unlikely to happen any time soon

[dire field]

one of the modders made a functional elevator so maybe more possible https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1168656318345777313/1193985351744753854/Lethal_Company_xHd9LeOguE.mp4?ex=65aeb483&is=659c3f83&hm=52756b45eaa9dc171ab538430946de386bf364dd806f537f1896029df087837f&

[ionic mica]

does it work without desync? imo that'd be one of the biggest issues

that is sick though

[dire field]

it would be nomnom who made this so they would be the one to know

[ionic mica]

i'll read around and see what's going on with their mod

[maiden crown]

woah, who did this?

[ionic mica]

is there a thread on this discord where I can read about it?

[dire field]

#dev-general is where nomnom seems to talk about it the most would probably message them about it more since they expressed interest here to have other mods be able to use elevators #dev-general message

also i'm surprised y'all don't have the modder role yet

seems like the talk right now there is literally about elevators so yeah

[ionic mica]

We're too proud to ask for it but simultaneously really want it heheh

[verbal blade]

damnnnnnn
these sneak peeks are lokin delicious

[dire field]

do it

mainly since they want to incorporate it into LLL

so it might be the method you wanna use

[ionic mica]

one more then I'm off for the day

[dire field]

yippiwe

[native urchin]

so when are yall hooking me up with a alpha

[ionic mica]

👀

ok one more

I think we can get you in for the pre-pre-early-non-release-alpha

[sudden lance]

looks very very dope but too bright imo (not sure if its like that for screenshots but yea)

[fathom fossil]

Hope to see a lot of plastic fish

[rustic peak]

elevator?

[ionic mica]

yee

[covert scarab]

with the apparatus work wtih faciliry meltdown?

[indigo oxide]

As cool as an elevator is, as far as gameplay goes, it's just less time to get to the ship. It's cool af, but the appreciation during gameplay is going to be limited.

[ionic mica]

I think it would add to the challenge, regardless we probably won't have it any time soon so I wouldn't worry about it.

[rugged siren]

Hey Rhen, regarding this tile and how tall it is, can snare fleas zoop to the top of it and hide? I'm genuinely not sure if they have a max height because I've seen them on the mansion entrance ceiling

[ionic mica]

It would be an issue in vanilla so i doubt it

Ive never seen one in the tall room before myself in vanila

[hot quartz]

elevators are conceptually fun but I think like others mentioned it can be an area of slow down for gameplay when it comes to leaving and entering the building, but I like the idea of an elevator in tiles around the interior as an obstacle

-elevator can carry items up and down, encouraging you to use it as a checkpoint of sorts to bring items back for easier transit.
-theres an alternative way up and down but requires jumping between debris or extrusions in the elevator shaft, or a very roundabout path that's annoying and long that's only there if you're unable to grab the elevator
-the elevator rises up slower with alot of weight.
-elevator doors open and close very slowly, but go faster if you spam the button, for extra dramatic effect when running from a monster, and the guy ahead hits the button and you just barely make it inside.
-elevator can either be entirely vertical, move along a rail in a long room above a hazard, or along a track up and down a slope, designers choice for best feel for the area.
-extra cool if the elevators were able to have ship guys operate them, imagine shouting over Comms to start the elevator as a thumper starts charging at you and just barely making it inside as the doors separate you and the beast

obviously this is contingent on the elevator you're currently working on being able to do any of this, just because it's interesting conceptually doesn't mean it's realistic implementation wise or even a priority

[ionic mica]

yea there's a lot of interesting emergent gameplay that can come from elevators working, even just the idea of a platform that can hold a player and move would have interesting implications.

[wintry pelican]

this is sick, consider me pumped!

[covert scarab]

Just checking, will this mod be as configurable as scoopys since it’s LLL? (Setting rarity per moon?)

Personally for my pack I’m probably going to make it the most common interior for titan and maybe 15%ish on the other paid

[hot quartz]

biggest concern is definitely the AI playing nice with it, since even in the base game, the closest thing to an elevator (ship) doesn't play nice when it starts moving

btw I'm hyping up this project every dev update you put out to my friend group, it's really cool and I'm looking forward to it, if that wasn't obvious 😅

[tall cave]

Yep because I totally didnt copy most of his code for LLL

[covert scarab]

Awesome

[ionic mica]

It should probably be treated the same way as the ship is in that the AI aren't really able to be moved along with the ship once it starts moving.

[rustic peak]

i think a cool mechanic with the elvator is when water is rising and flooding and u go into the elvator

[tall cave]

cool until you get left behind lol 😂

[dire atlas]

Better be quick then :)

[tall idol]

@tall cave Is this legit?

[tall cave]

Doing some multiplayer testing with some friends and this was the easiest way to test, you're welcome to try it out but please dont expect the final models or moon configs

[native urchin]

@tall cave might be worth sharing internally in that case

based on the file I got sent ya'll have some stuff you gotta change for LLL + if that upload picks up speed your gonna stuck with that mod name

you can't change name after upload

[tall idol]

Ah okay glad to hear it's legit, thought someone being naughty 😛

[merry sand]

Is there currently an estimated time of release?

[tall cave]

@ionic mica

[ionic mica]

@tall cave

I'm workin on the models still sorry

just showed up now

[merry sand]

@young mantle

[native urchin]

but yeah yall should really probably move that test upload to github or something instead of thunderstore

[tall cave]

Point taken, will probably move it soon.

[merry sand]

what mod is this from?

[ionic mica]

I kinda figured it was too big but it's definitely too big 😅

[native urchin]

the models?

[tall cave]

Scale seems perfect imo

Unless you're talking about the new tiles

[ionic mica]

too big in terms of gameplay imo

everywhere is very far

maybe that's something configurable that we can mess with once we get more unique rooms

[tall cave]

We need scooters

[dire field]

from nomnom no mod for it yet

[haughty merlin]

I had no idea the wip wasn’t meant for anyone browsing thunderstore until I just came and saw the chat after a while of playing with it
Sorry about that, I won’t share it

[tall cave]

If you got it play away, should be removed by now though

[haughty merlin]

Alrighty, thank you

[tall cave]

We did a play test earlier with 6 people and had a lot of fun. Really excited for the final product.

[haughty merlin]

Likewise, I played it solo since I have a habit of looking at mods to play on with my friends at a later date but it’s still a fun experience solo

The stuff does feel very spread out but this is a test run not even meant for public so it’s no issue at all

[sudden lance]

Haven’t tried it so idk but a lot of modded interiors suffer from stuff being too spread out making it aids to find loot

[rugged siren]

I feel a few interiors are missing verticality in design, it makes more efficient use of space rather than an endless sprawl outwards

[hot quartz]

this looks so good on the monitor omg

another problem I've had with interiors is a lack of darkness oddly enough. SCP isn't fullbright or anything but it feels bright enough to ignore the need for a flashlight, and an interior like the Bunker from the More interiors mod is very fun but suffers from a similar problem in most tiles.

I think it's because unlike the base game tileset, the lights on those maps don't have "broken" versions, and they can't turn off the same way like in the facility tileset

In the SCP map especially it felt really bad because every tile has some kind of light to guide you through the room, so there was little variety and every area felt the same because you don't remember struggling to get through a dark maze, or that a specific server room had it's lights broken

[maiden crown]

very true

[maiden crown]

very true x2

[tall cave]

I think the key to resolving this is room variety

[hot quartz]

scoopy's dungeon interior has this aspect down the best from all interiors I've tried with friends but there's other issues with it (but ones that feel like fine tuning, I personally feel like it's too spread out even with massive room variety)

[tall cave]

The original dungeons are also very boxy in design which has a higher packing efficiency than tubes. Something we're going to have to figure out.

[sudden lance]

Could increase loot room spawn rate and could also let loot spawn in tunnels

[hot quartz]

problem with increasing spawn rate is you stray a bit from vanilla loot expectations, which is fine if that's what you want, but I don't think the interior itself is meant to decide that, I think the moon does right

[tall cave]

I had the idea for a mod extension that would add the vacuum tubes you see at the bank and let you "ship" your scrap back to the surface.

[river raven]

Dang I missed getting to mess with this

[tall idol]

I love the organic shape of the hallways!

[ionic mica]

Thx man

[covert scarab]

The what at the huh?

[ionic mica]

Hyperloop but smol and for packages

Going full circle using hyperloop to explain vacuum tubes

[tall cave]

There might be a cultural disconnect lol

[native urchin]

not for 1.0 but suprisingly not many big problems i can think of if you wanted to implement this, atleast if you wanted to shoot them back to the main room

[tall cave]

we need an item gun

I want to SHOOT a monster with an axel

[covert scarab]

Yeah I’m from ny, never seen that, the money is in atms here

[covert scarab]

I saw a concept someone made of a monster that throws scrap

[stuck plover]

we have those too lol

[simple nest]

Drive thru banks are such a weird American thing

[hot quartz]

would be interesting if these were sent to other tiles in the facility, so if you found tube H1 early in the dungeon, you can send it through knowing it'll be in that other location, since sending it directly outside seems kinda op (and maybe two handed/heavy items cant be sent through?)

[ionic mica]

quick update, here's some finalized meshes with their colliders

Trying to get something in Buck's hands so he can start working with finalized models

the exterior colliders probably aren't important but I believe they determine if the dungeon generates so I figure it might prevent clipping dungeon parts

[haughty merlin]

Looks cool, you guys said you were gonna mess with the materials you use on the meshes right ?

[lost hare]

They talk about a waterfall in the latest lore, I feel like we're getting a new water moon next update

This mod might end up being a good fit if that's remotely true

[night vector]

This looks sick

[rustic peak]

yea you know maybe they should also add me theere too.. haha...

[fresh walrus]

Hopefully

If we get a water moon, they may add some kind of diving gear

And a water monster

[sudden lance]

There is a moon that’s just water with 2 entrances lol

Also advanced company / late game upgrades both add some form of diving gear

[fresh walrus]

Oh god

[ionic mica]

yea I'll have to work on textures once everything is converted to a mesh, then I'll have to do the fun part of UV unwrapping everything

I haven't worked much with trim sheets before though so this will be a learning process for me.

[dry rose]

will this support modded moons, modded scrap and modded ai?

[native urchin]

It uses LLL, so yes

[dry rose]

wb scrap and moons

[fallen gull]

can this be downloaded anywhere as of now?

[dire atlas]

No

[tall cave]

soon

[tall cave]

tbh I want to do a big playtest with all of you before release. Ya'll have been incredibly helpful and encouraging.

[warm musk]

I'd be down for a playtest

[fallen gull]

yes pls

[rustic peak]

ik this might sound weird, but idk this feels perfect with infernis

[covert scarab]

How hard was it to put an apparatus in the building?

[fallen gull]

Will this work with the meltdown mod

[lime oasis]

when will the mod beta release

[ionic mica]

We're not giving deadlines for release, generally speaking 99% of modders probably won't give you a release date.

no current plans to integrate with mod meltdown

[tall cave]

https://gist.github.com/Sphyrna-029/6d0a4724d93b11c3acb98d3946c90547

[covert scarab]

oh wow

[native urchin]

@novel zinc

[novel zinc]

"SpawnAsaparagus" lol

[rustic peak]

so easy?

[tall cave]

Basically instantiate a empty game object in your apparatus dungeon tile called "LungSpawn". Will need the tag "PhysicsProp" and be on the layer "Props".

[tall cave]

https://tenor.com/view/arbiter-were-it-so-easy-halo-difficult-gif-16171194

[novel zinc]

i assume lungprop script handles turning off all poweredlights and stuff?

[tall cave]

I havent got lights working yet so that is uncharted waters for me.

[novel zinc]

ah gotcha

prob pretty easy, might have a go with your patch after work and see if i can get poweredlights turning off

[rustic peak]

huh

so yes?

[tall cave]

Easy now I know how to do it yes lol. I fought with it for a week before it was working.

[rustic peak]

ok thx

[covert scarab]

It has to do with the PoweredLight tag

    {
        this.allPoweredLights.Clear();
        this.allPoweredLightsAnimators.Clear();
        GameObject[] array = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("PoweredLight");
        if (array == null)
        {
            return;
        }
        for (int i = 0; i < array.Length; i++)
        {
            Animator componentInChildren = array[i].GetComponentInChildren<Animator>();
            if (!(componentInChildren == null))
            {
                this.allPoweredLightsAnimators.Add(componentInChildren);
                this.allPoweredLights.Add(array[i].GetComponentInChildren<Light>(true));
            }
        }
        for (int j = 0; j < this.allPoweredLightsAnimators.Count; j++)
        {
            this.allPoweredLightsAnimators[j].SetFloat("flickerSpeed", Random.Range(0.6f, 1.4f));
        }
    }```

[sudden lance]

technically yes

[ionic mica]

shhhh 💀

[sudden lance]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147608357906174076/1194690080963575859/42B91449-9BDE-4E0A-96C6-0E2520C4E4B6.gif?ex=65b144d7&is=659ecfd7&hm=28b23b5acf6070186872787151ecf65240e0de506f468898d323fd6adca89993&

[ionic mica]

making tons of progress today

colliders are set up for almost all of the meshes and I've organized things in a way that should make it easy to export them and integrate hopefully.

[wicked talon]

Hopefully

[ionic mica]

hopefully

Also hopefully gonna try and get all the colliders done by today, after than I just need to place the empties for all the lights, items, door entrances, mines, spawn points and probably something else I'm forgetting

[delicate stratus]

This literally looks like the Spy kids 1 castle

[river raven]

I've heard of thumpers but these thumbpers are getting out of hand

[rustic peak]

lol

gottem!

[kind lark]

holy shit so true

[hot quartz]

are there any plans for ship guy interactables (broadcast interactions I mean)?

besides the base game doors and traps ofc

[warm musk]

Something akin to facility doors wouldn't sound outlandish but would require some additional time to develop and test

[tall cave]

We have so many ideas that scope creep has actually been a big problem. Shooting for vanilla dungeon functionality for now but for sure have some neat stuff plan pending figuring out how to do it.

[warm musk]

Ye understandable, I'm just excited for at least the base experience
More stuff WOULD be cool, but I don't mind if it's in due time after the base release

[rugged siren]

Absolutely, getting the base tileset out first then focusing on adding some more tiles for interaction and generation is a good way to go, means users can bring up any issues with the existing stuff before that carries onto new tiles being made

[river raven]

Instead of an asparagus this tileset will have a sea cucumber 🥒 ⚡

[ionic mica]

thanks for reminding me of this nightmare of a movie

[tall cave]

I remember my mom buying it on dvd for us and it came with 3d glasses

I was deathly ill and watching it in 3d on top of having a fever probably damaged my brain

[ionic mica]

what a fever dream of a movie

[delicate stratus]

I had fucking nightmares from the first spykids movie

[delicate stratus]

second and third are bangers

[tall cave]

zeekers after inventing the jester

[ionic mica]

yea agree

[lime oasis]

@tall cave when will the mod release?

[tall cave]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[wheat coyote]

holyyy now i want thumb people as enemies

[ionic mica]

messing around with texturing on the lobby

not exactly sure what to do with the glass, it would be really cool to have the glass with dirt buildup around the corners

💀

trippy

[native urchin]

Would be cool if there was like big pieces of underwater fauna and such in the outside

[ionic mica]

yea that'd be sick

[native urchin]

could play with crazy scale knowing its such a foriegn location

[ionic mica]

like giant sea amenonmenoee

anenome

you know the one

[native urchin]

yeee

[gloomy ore]

Been following, this is awesome work

[ionic mica]

appreciate it brother

[native urchin]

youve really challenged yourselves with a dungeon thats so transparent haha

[ionic mica]

lol yes but it allows for some really cool possibilities

even the flat materials looks pretty cool

[native urchin]

yeah basegame usually uses flat colours and gradiants with detail in the normalmap and it really helps with the style and consistency

[ionic mica]

looks good in substance painter

not sure how it's gonna look in unity or how unity handles emissive and opacity

[simple nest]

on the other hand they're leveraging all the base games' capacity since there's no occlusion in the dungeon anyway, might as well show off everything

[native urchin]

Yeah but that opens up to design problems, your not meant to see everything. Which is why theres that cool negative space fog trick I showed them 😛

[simple nest]

interested to see how that fog looks when active

[wanton eagle]

seeing 90% of threads be full of random suggestions is starting to become a pet peeve holy f-- lol

[wanton eagle]

this looks sooo good

[wanton eagle]

is that an elevator??????

[covert scarab]

Flora too

[ionic mica]

elevator is not planned to be functional as an elevator, maybe some day but it's not currently planned

[tall cave]

Also learned the max number of fog volumes you can have rendered at one time is 80 lol

[hot quartz]

does this interfere with how things look or is it a limit the engine warns about?

• does negative volume count towards the limit?

[rustic peak]

is the release super close? cause isnt there gonna be a play test. Or is that just to see how progress is going
great mod so far, and take your time