v2.6 Facility Meltdown

[ancient bison]

By Platinumbin
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uZIi0qFRcTYh6DDA20M-sIm6IZ-TXfdf/view

[stable locust]

so this ontop of doors escape music

[ancient bison]

Yep

[native otter]

I got jumpscared by the coilhead lmao

[woven sable]

Many, but not all. Many popular sound mods are compatible as we specifically try to dodge those popular sounds as to not conflict

Wait the normal LR or the LR meltdown mod

[stable locust]

thank you 🙏

[stable locust]

last few times with the lr melt mod it doesnt work at all, but I saw it got updated four days ago so Ill see

[woven sable]

Are you installing with modman or manually installing?

[stable locust]

modman

regular LR works btw so ye

i want to say again thank you btw its really good

i love sound mods

[digital kernel]

This face feels iconic to me now

Hmm probably a different word idk

[woven sable]

Can you make a new profile on modman with just LR meltdown and LR and let me know if that works? From what I understand bongo hasn’t changed anything that has broken it and it’s about to hit 100k downloads so I think it works for most, hmm🤔

[stable locust]

alr bet 1 sec

[woven sable]

I don’t know what this means, but it sounds nice 👀

[stable locust]

just LR meltdown and LR? with the meltdown mod i assume?

[digital kernel]

Also I dm you

[woven sable]

Yeah, also might want to jump to the LR thread to not handle this here

[stable locust]

what are your settings for this

the music tracks

[wooden fulcrum]

Well it’s the mod I’ve sent earlier

[digital kernel]

yes?

[stable locust]

with this on top im just still confused on how to put it on top of that

[ancient bison]

Do you know how to edit sound files?

[stable locust]

to a basic extent

[ancient bison]

Get music, get music, put them together, done, should be as simple as that

[wooden fulcrum]

Well did you want to use the Doors music or not?

Because the mod does it all for you. If you want your own custom music that’s something else

[stable locust]

it only plays the doors music, in your vid you also have the gdrive track on top of it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uZIi0qFRcTYh6DDA20M-sIm6IZ-TXfdf/view
could u send the wav file?

sorry if it seems im asking too much

[wooden fulcrum]

The mod creator already did that basically

[ancient bison]

The wav file is in the mod, I'm not sure why it wouldn't be playing for you

[wooden fulcrum]

here it is, but this file is already in the mod files

[dreamy oxide]

Any reported incompatabilities that would cause the audio to start but none of the visual effects and explosion?

[mossy jay]

no that's weird, considering the base version is stable idk what would be causing that could you share a log

[kind gyro]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/den/Meltdown_Chance/

Ty!

[mossy jay]

that's not a mod i support, but you can use it

[digital kernel]

oooo

I might add

[mossy jay]

just know i won't give you much support with it installed

still does some pretty nasty stuff under the hood

[digital kernel]

While you said that I saw the worst console of my life

Someone send me a full red console

I'm scared

[kind gyro]

Then I won't install it

To keep good communication ^^

[kind gyro]

I tested this mod

It doesn't work well with custom music - even if the complex doesn't explode, custom music starts working

[mystic plume]

Does it still lobotomize meltdowns?

[kind gyro]

?

I don't understand you

[mystic plume]

I don't fully understand code but last time bongo showed it, it unpatches meltdown entirely the first time it doesn't happen.

Basically it'll never happen again the first time it doesn't happen

[mossy jay]

no i genuinly have no clue what it does now

like it goes through hell and back when all it really needs to do is patch two of my functions on meltdownhandler, prefix return false and it's a clean disable

[mystic plume]

Mood

[ancient bison]

The trigger for custom music using PizzaTower is just the apparatus being taken, they work without facility meltdown at all

[kind gyro]

I didn't know this...

What if the music is in Meltdown itself?

It will not work - if the chance arises, so that the complex does not explode

[ancient bison]

I think the default Meltdown music probably doesn't play?

[kind gyro]

Plays if the complex explodes

It's easy to enable in the config

[ancient bison]

Yeah just means no custom music using PizzaTower

[kind gyro]

So you could use music - so that the binding in Meltdown itself would be

Specify path to MP3

And he used it

I don't know how difficult it is to implement this

But it would make life easier for many

[woven sable]

funny enough this exact issue will be fixed shortly (probably)

[mossy jay]

it techincally is now
MeltdownHandler:music is a valid thing you can replace

im like 90% certain

[kind gyro]

Cheers :3

This is wonderful

[woven sable]

technically has nothing to do with me, I just know about it

[kind gyro]

Thanks anyway for the information ^^

[woven sable]

yee

[serene raptor]

it works now

[mossy jay]

barely would not be surprised if it was hit by a gust of wind it would just stop

[serene raptor]

i mean it's their first mod, seems pretty stable to me haven't had a single issue

[mossy jay]

all im saying is im not helping if it breaks

[serene raptor]

that's makes perfect sense it's not your mod to fix

[viral mango]

I just wanted to share this moment that I had with my friends.
"The Final Countdown" perfectly sync with this mod 😄

[twin rain]

got a weird bug where the meltdown just does not happen, the sound events go no problem, im sure it's a conflict but gotta do some testing

[wooden fulcrum]

This is peak lethal company right here 👏👏👏

[twin rain]

Slowly disabling mods, so far have learned that meltdown is not loading at all since geiger counter is not in the store

[twin rain]

Figured it out, Disabling LethalConfig using Preload Manager causes FacilityMeltdown not to load at all

[cold iris]

Can we put the Apparatus back in to stop the meltdown now? 🥲

Or depower the apparatus to prevent a meltdown or something, idk

[mossy jay]

https://tenor.com/view/boomshakalaka-gif-25687559

[cold iris]

Although I wonder… What if a mod adds… Two apparatus rooms? :o

Would meltdown immediately cause a meltdown if just one was taken? Or when both are taken? 🤔

[marsh loom]

feels like a building that is powered by two power source and will breakdown once you take out one

[daring cypress]

Yeah bc the power would probably go to the 2nd and overloading it

[cedar basin]

Hey fellas !
Can someone tell me if the random selected music is shared between all player ? Like if i do a custom mod with my own songs and rules, and i put multiple music for the meltdown (cuse there is so much good music i can't choose 1 so i put them all and let the gaem decide each time, maybe i could restrict the possibilities depending on the moon and/or weather but still), will everyone hear the same or the random happens locally ?

Like for exemple on the pizza tower one, it chooses between those 2 here if i understood everything right

"musicNames": [
                "ItsPizzaTime",
                "TheDeathThatIDeservioli"
            ]

[cedar basin]

...mmh i should probably ask this on the pizza tower thread now that i think of it o-°

[cinder tusk]

does this mod have an official thunderstore page

[cedar basin]

yea ? i've looked at it

[cinder tusk]

pinned message wasn't displaying for me, got it

[cedar basin]

oh it was an actual question... i thought u were answering me like "cant you read the mod description" ^^

phew

[daring cypress]

Chop chop it’s time to be overworked til you die 👿

(Jk)

[ebon nimbus]

I saw the video for the music, but how do people upload it ot thunderstore without people downloading it to configuire anything

[mossy jay]

I'll eventually probably replace that considering I have my new sound API that is a lot better

[ebon nimbus]

Bet

[mossy jay]

it'll probably be sometime this week, got some more urgent things to tend too

[spring tartan]

Holy shit I didn't even see that my crew made it into this

[dreamy oxide]

I missed this and have made many changes since. I also have now added Meltdown chance to test it out. I will get back to you if I notice problems. I will also remove Meltdown chance and test before I report them to make sure it is indeed a problem.

[serene raptor]

the only issues i've had is with the new popup message

[late hound]

yeah, custom music is just tied to pulling the apparatus, no?

[kind gyro]

What are you talking about?

4 days have passed since my message

No longer relevant for me xD

[late hound]

OH Jesus i haven't read this chat in a while

I didn't notice that shit was old lmaoo

my bad og

[kind gyro]

😂

[late hound]

[robust wedge]

So lets say I want to add the apparatus value to a number, how do I do that?

can't just use 80 since I want it to work with this mod

[mossy jay]

wdym?

[robust wedge]

Can I get the apparatus value as a variable lets says I want to do whatever + apparatus value is that possible?

[mossy jay]

like increase the apparatus' value?

[robust wedge]

nah doing math for scrap value, want to add the appratus to the calculation

[mossy jay]

yeah .scrapValue should work no?

[robust wedge]

LungProp.scrapValue?

[mossy jay]

yeah but on the instance

[robust wedge]

hmm my instance is roundmanager

[mossy jay]

is this for your proper scrap value mod?

[robust wedge]

nope

[mossy jay]

then what are you trying to do? because in the next update the apparatus is going to be a lot more variable

[robust wedge]

just trying to get its value

[mossy jay]

you could most likely just post fix start on it then check the value then

that would work for now

[robust wedge]

                currentLevel.minTotalScrapValue = ((int)(TimeOfDay.Instance.profitQuota * 1/2 * ((float)currentLevel.maxEnemyPowerCount / 5)) + 100);
                currentLevel.maxTotalScrapValue = ((int)(TimeOfDay.Instance.profitQuota * 3/2 * ((float)currentLevel.maxEnemyPowerCount / 5)) + 100);
                currentLevel.maxScrap = currentLevel.minTotalScrapValue / 20;
                currentLevel.minScrap = (int)Math.Round(currentLevel.maxScrap * (float)3 / 5);
                CustomDeathPenaltyMain.instance.mls.LogInfo($"minScrap: {currentLevel.minScrap}");
                CustomDeathPenaltyMain.instance.mls.LogInfo($"maxScrap: {currentLevel.maxScrap}");
                CustomDeathPenaltyMain.instance.mls.LogInfo($"minTotalScrapValue: {currentLevel.minTotalScrapValue}");
                CustomDeathPenaltyMain.instance.mls.LogInfo($"maxTotalScrapValue: {currentLevel.maxTotalScrapValue}");```
Where the 100 currently is I wanted to make be the apparatus value. `__instance.LungProp.scrapValue` doesn't work

[mossy jay]

well yeah it probably wouldn't, is this before or after level generation

[robust wedge]

Postfix of SpawnScrapInLevel

[mossy jay]

eh it might have spawned in by then

you should just be able to GameObject.findalloftype lung prop, loop through and check is isLungDocked is true

[robust wedge]

yeah afaik the apparatus spawns when the rest of the world loads, the scrap is placed after the rooms exist

It shouldn't matter if its docked or not, the calculation is once

Its also an adjustment since you could get say 150 worth of stuff first quota with my dynamic scrap and most of it would be the apparatus so adding that value to it will guarantee it to not fail to load due to being incalculable

[mossy jay]

I'm fairly certain that the apparatus isn't calculated in that anyway

[robust wedge]

my testing shows it is, when the scrap value was between 104 and 208 I got 6 scrap and one was the apparatus, the total did not exceed 208

[mossy jay]

ahh okay

but I think that looping through a bunch of apparatuses to find
the value is the best bet

[robust wedge]

so just this but don't worry about if its docked?

[mossy jay]

yeah

[spark pelican]

I'm seeing this warning get spammed in my logs after I pull the apparatus. Would this be in any way related to my audio mod for facilitymeltdown no longer works?

[mossy jay]

no that error is fine

[spark pelican]

damn. was kinda hoping it was the issue so i could get this fixed already lol

[spark pelican]

I'm assuming mods that add custom music onto FacilityMeltdown override the music volume option right?

[late hound]

from my experience they don't

from my experience

cuz it usually just replaces the vanilla music for taking the apparatus

[spark pelican]

Hm. Well I never touched the config for this mod.

And turning the volume to 100 just played the default audio instead of the mod I have

[late hound]

yeah, I usually just turn down the volume to 0

in my experience I just hear the volume twice

whenever it's not at 0

[spark pelican]

I've just been trying to figure out why the custom music I added stopped working :/

It worked completely fine yesterday

Today I thought I would try to edit it slightly so I messed with some of the files

Didn't work so I just deleted the files and did a fresh install of the mod

and it just permanently doesn't work now

The only time it works is when the ship leaves early

But it used to do it for both that and FacilityMeltdown

Didn't update any of the mods either

[woven sable]

To give some clarification to this conversation. Most if not all Meltdown audio replacements use pizzatower music to utilize the audio trigger point it adds to play music on takeapparatus. Facility meltdown needs to have its audio set to 0 because its a separate thing playing the audio

[spark pelican]

Gotcha that makes more sense. At least narrows down my search. Thank you!

[mossy jay]

yeah itd be all until i get this template for the new api :3

[dreamy oxide]

I would love to complicate things.

Feature Suggestion/Feature Request

Varying failure conditions.

[APARATUS REMOVED]

#1 (Meltdown Averted) - Positive Result
Backup generators activated.... Reactor stable.
Service request sent to the company.

#2 (Delayed Meltdown) - negative result

Apparatus removed!
(Facility Lights turn off)
Engaging fail-safe......
Error generators offline.....
Backup power initiated.
Emergency systems engaged.
(Lights arround the facility turned on and red, all bulkheads are open.)

[Repeating Phrase]
All staff, please procede to nearest facility exit. This is not a drill!
All staff are required to survive for the company.

Facility power decreasing.

80%..

Core temperature increasing..

60%

Cooling system initiated...

40%

20%

Cooling system failure!

All staff must leave the facility immediately, reactor critical, Meltdown unavoidable.....

2
1.....

(Reactor Meltdown innitiates)

#3 (security lockdown)

Power failure.... security overide....
Lockdown initiated!
(Lights turn yellow, bulkheads seal map wide)
Security systems compromised.... Defense systems Unstable.
(Turrets have chance of going haywire, mines can detonate sporadically, more monsters spawn.)

For your safety Staff are advised to continue working at their stations.

(Lockdown lasts a set period of time, or can be overridden using ship terminal)

I believe this would add more variety.

Failure type chance could be configurable/loggleable

[ebon nimbus]

im 100% the dev will say no this, cause we dont like chances. His reply would be the same philsophy as percent meltdown

[dreamy oxide]

I am moreso excited of possible variety. Implementation choice, method, or features is up to the developer of course.

[woven sable]

My guess is he might not be against the chance of some different effects or scenarios during meltdown, but if there’s a possibility that it won’t activate you’ll for sure get denied

[mystic plume]

Could make a good suggestion for the meltdown chance mod. Would be much better than just preventing it.

[woven sable]

Preventing it?

Like the lack of a meltdown?

[mossy jay]

maybe if this was moon specific it's could be really cool

issue is that meltdown really isn't geared towards something like this ATM and a huge portion would probably need to be re-written

[dreamy oxide]

While I like the Meltdown chance mod, it does not feel immersive.

Personally I would rather it be baked into the Meltdown mod as I imagine it would.

1. Be more stable. As well as being supported as long as development continued.
2. Have better audio support for when the Meltdown does not happen. (Right now resonance Meltdown plays no matter what.)

Also the one personal reason I like the idea of having a chance to not Meltdown is for open multi-player lobbies.

By default if a player finds the Apparatus in a multi-player lobby and pulls it, the round is over. It can negatively affect the game.

Players can feel forced to return to the ship. I have had some players even grow to dislike the mod as this can happen too frequently with random people and can feel to them like it's robbing them of game play.

I personally love the mod and want to see it grow. But I also like the idea of it not always triggering the same scenario. That way other game play still gets to happen.

Also maps very in size. Depending on where the Apparatus is located it can be impossible to escape with it. So in its current state it can not be enjoyed everywhere, or by everyone at all times.

Plus configuration for these options help make a custom modpack feel different from others.

All in all though. I am excited to see where it goes, however it gets there. I for sure will be playing with it. 😜

[dreamy oxide]

Let me know if you end up doing so if it interests you. I would love to help test it.

[woven sable]

I was thinking of adding different sets of alarms to help spice things up, but I def can’t change WHAT is happening, only what it sounds like :S

[dreamy oxide]

Yeah. However if it was baked in with different hooks you could assign a sound to each scenario.

[mossy jay]

i mean at this point soundAPI is like using a ftl spaceship to go from new york to london

[woven sable]

Bongo its called ✨ Traveling in style✨ We only move at the speed of first class baby

[dreamy oxide]

@woven sable

Let's be honest. I do not think you will ever be done.

[woven sable]

Whhhaaaaaaaaaattttttttttt

[dreamy oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-test-dukey-we-need-more-more-i-tell-you-more-gif-11223013480534159567

[woven sable]

https://tenor.com/view/heisen-we-are-done-when-i-say-we-are-done-saul-goodman-walter-breaki-gif-23923149

[robust wedge]

How did you get csync to revert back to a persons default config?

I copy pasted the code for it into my class for the config and changed Config to the class

[mystic plume]

I don't like meltdown chance either

We on the same team

I just think if there has to be a mod having different malfunctions would be better than a binary "the building explodes or does not explode" situation

[mossy jay]

there is two patches that you need to copy over, one that syncs it on some player method then reverts it on gamenetworkmanager disconnect

[robust wedge]

Just to remove it? That’s the only bit that doesn’t work in my mod

It syncs perfectly on join but not on leave

[serene raptor]

the thing is though the power always turns off and more enemies spawn so the argument that nothing happens one way is just wrong

[mystic plume]

You know what I mean though

[serene raptor]

different options from taking out the apparatus would be fun for sure but i doubt it would happen if adding a different option was already shot down and not supported

the dev doesn't want to support more options

[mossy jay]

.

[serene raptor]

that's a hard maybe lol and right after you said everything would need reworked

so that's a no

[mossy jay]

the next update is 3.0 so it would have a lot of features anyway

[serene raptor]

i use the lethal chance mod and the radiation mod so it adds that extra risk without forcing you to leave the moon even if the reactor is stable and doesn't meltdown

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/gamehog44/LethalRadiation/

this one

[dreamy oxide]

I have yet to try Lethal Radiation.

I currently use Meltdown chance for Multiplayer lobbies.
I do not prefer it however as all it does is stop the meltdown. I am hoping for cooler features in the future.

[prisma agate]

doesn't csync have the same amount of copy+paste boilerplate as what's shown in the wiki? that's the main reason i chose not to use it at least

[dreamy oxide]

Bongo already said in the above posts that he finds the ideas interesting, if implimented to his liking, however it would take a lot of work. He never said the word "No".

[dreamy oxide]

Interesting. Can't wait.

[serene raptor]

i know, I just know how it went before

[dreamy oxide]

I sense salt lol

[serene raptor]

no im just warning you lol

[mossy jay]

well the wiki when i tried it tried to sync the config entries so i had to make duplicate "dummy" varaibles that did sync

then csync came around and it was about the same to setup but looked way cleaner

[mossy jay]

you'll be waiting quite a while, wrapped up in school, other personal projects and loaforcsSoundAPI atm

[dreamy oxide]

all good

[dusk axle]

The thing I wonder now is that whatever happened regarding IntroTweaks and Owen3H should csync even still be trusted to use?

[mossy jay]

tf happened?

[dreamy oxide]

I miss IntroTweaks.....

[dusk axle]

Idk some incident from all I know but he left the server deprecated introtweaks and removed it's github page

[dreamy oxide]

Ahh damn I had aspirations of Forking it and working on it. well thats out the window

[ancient bison]

CSync is open source, so anything untoward should be noticable

[ebon nimbus]

Better timing feature
You have 2 min to leave the facility before it blows up, and then another 30 seconds to get to the shop before the rest of the moons blows up

[robust wedge]

huh, you just only type RevertSync(); and not the class before it

[mossy jay]

cause that patch is in the meltdown config file

so having the class there would be redundent

[robust wedge]

true true, I just tried not using the class and just the revertsync and now it works 👍

[mossy jay]

@serene raptor use https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TrippyTree/PizzaProbability/ instead of meltdown chance, this patches itself a lot nicer so is prone to a lot less errors

still not the greatest (it rolls the chance for everybody so if just one person fails the chance it won't start)

[serene raptor]

so it doesn't work right then

id rather use meltdown chance because it does it just fine and only has one chance per round

[mossy jay]

this works better because it doesn't unpatch meltdown, it patches meltdown to prevent it

[serene raptor]

how is it better?

[mossy jay]

it patches a method that gets called on the host to see if it cancels, meltdown chances unpatches meltdown (huge nono), this mod is just safer and more error resistant

[serene raptor]

but why is it a "huge nono" if it works completely fine

i haven't gotten a single error

[mossy jay]

way more things can go wrong with meltdown chance, if you wanna use meltdown chance that's fine, im just saying that this mod is better in most ways

this mod also lets you pick a value for when no meltdown happens vs when one does

[serene raptor]

but nothing is going wrong?

[mossy jay]

damn bro if you just wanna stay on meltdown chance just say it

youve asked bascially the same question 3 times in a row

[serene raptor]

if you wanna shit on meltdown chance just say it

you litteraly said you don't support this stuff but are now trying to sell me on the same thing

[mossy jay]

damn bro my fault i wanted to help you out and give you a mod that does it better 😭

[serene raptor]

the idea that i suggested and you shot down because it was "stupid"

[mossy jay]

i aint engaing in this again

[serene raptor]

I don't want your help you are an egotistical ass

[mossy jay]

if you wanna stay on meltdown chance thats fine,
if you wanna change to pizzaprobability thats better

[serene raptor]

its not tho

[mossy jay]

ahh damn youre right you decide what im thinking

[serene raptor]

you litteraly says it has to go through multiple chances per player

so it doesn't work right

how is that better?

[mossy jay]

that was on a first look, looking at it now it literally does the correct thing

[serene raptor]

just because it goes through a method you deem worthy

nobody cares what you think

get a life and stop bothering me

[serene raptor]

maybe you should "look again" on what makes this idea "stupid" if so many people want it

[mossy jay]

ok bro you want me to stop bothering you? maybe don't keep talking?

[serene raptor]

you are the one who @'d me

all im doing is calling you out on your twosided bullshit

[bronze axle]

He was just giving you a better alternative that is literally objectively coded better according to the MOD CREATOR, no need to get your panties in a bunch over this

[mossy jay]

yes i don't think its a crime to say that there is a better way. you've told me to stop, so i am. i dont think thats two sided

[serene raptor]

that's not what im fustrated about

im frustrated because you made a giant stink over why it was such a terrible idea and why it should never happen then suddenly its ok and you are recommending it to people

i understand you don't like me just stop bothering me

[serene raptor]

it's literally not objective though I have gotten no logic on how it's better, it just is because he says it is? why should anyone believe him if he litteraly hates the idea and made a whole video about how it should never happen?

that's my problem I ask simple questions and get hit with hatred for even suggesting it

just stop bothering me

[past salmon]

He did explain the objective reason here

[serene raptor]

he didn't he just said it was a "huge nono"

[past salmon]

Not saying he’s in the right or wrong but for that atleast

[serene raptor]

and things can "go wrong"

i haven't seen anything go wrong and every change in code has a chance for things to go wrong

[past salmon]

I mean yeah, that’s kind of the right answer in the context of a user. Programming wise the way that mod does the things it does is done in a unideal and unsafe way

If it doesn’t bother you that’s chill, but it’s a reasonable point

[serene raptor]

i just dont understand it

but that makes me a bad person for not understanding

[past salmon]

Do you need to? It’s programmed in a way that could cause issues. could. Your not a bad person but like when a car is recalled for safety issues usually it’s not super questioned yknow

[serene raptor]

any mod could cause issues tho

i mean questioning things is how you learn

i would question a car recall

things don't have to be done a certain way

especially if it works lol

[past salmon]

They don’t, and the other mod does it a different way

[serene raptor]

and that's fine!

but i don't grasp how one is better because it's a different way so that's why im hesitant especially since bongo told me it doesn't work right but now ig he said it does. but i don't trust him because he doesn't like creative ideas changing his mods if it comes from someone like me

you know the only reason he @'d me was to rub in my face that another mod that i haven't used or have a liking to "does it better". because i am the bad guy to him for even suggesting that more customization to his mod would be a bad thing

[past salmon]

dawg

[serene raptor]

what?

am i wrong?

[ebon torrent]

i feel like you have personal beef with him so now you try to question everything he says
just let it go 😭

[serene raptor]

you aren't listening to what im saying

he made a whole video hating on the idea but now is suggesting a mod with that idea

why?

[past salmon]

dawg

[serene raptor]

im asking a valid question!

[bronze axle]

he was only suggesting that if you're gonna use that mod, use one that has less potential to break the game

[serene raptor]

he has never apologized for shiting on a creative idea because it was "stupid" and "dumb" so I have no reason to like them

or trust him

[past salmon]

then stop replying 😭

[serene raptor]

replying to what?

im explaining to you my reasoning?

[serene raptor]

but why me

there are so many people that use it

[past salmon]

dawgg

[serene raptor]

he knows I don't like how he treated me and that we don't agree on creative ideas

[past salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-kinkytwt-michael-jackson-gun-stan-twitter-stan-twt-gif-8838448374497139850

[serene raptor]

why do you keep saying dawg

i really don't understand

if people said what they mean and they didn't hide subtext things would be so much easier

[past salmon]

.

[serene raptor]

to what?!

im not allowed to talk?!

he litteraly @'d me

people keep saying stuff so im gonna keep explaining because understanding is key to everything

[serene raptor]

also im 90% sure that the meltdown chance mod doesn't unload the mod anymore in the changelogs he litteraly said "changed behavior to not unload entire FacilityMeltdown mod, but just a specific method instead"

[ebon torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-2099-spiderman-meme-spider-verse-across-the-spider-verse-miguel-o'hara-gif-8522749035714148258

[mossy jay]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-joe-biden-microphone-interview-walk-gif-2478024445377708296

[serene raptor]

i mean feel free to correct me I'm not good at coding which is why i ask questions about it

[mossy jay]

yes you are right, it no longer unloads the entire mod, but instead unloads a specific patch. harmony (patch library) doesn't support this very well so it can go very wrong.

which is why pizzaprobability is different, it applies new patches to my methods, which is the entire point of harmony and so is very supported by that library

[serene raptor]

ok so why didn't you say that before!

that makes sense

instead you were intentionally vague!

[mossy jay]

cause usually people don't want/need to know about the coding stuff

[serene raptor]

but i asked!

[winter olive]

I mean, he did said it, just in a less descriptive way.

[serene raptor]

and i said i didn't understand

im autistic so it's hard for me to understand vague things

that's why i asked for clarification, he doesn't have to but just saying one is better doesn't make sense to me

[winter olive]

Well, you asked why you should use the other mod if Meltdown Chance was working for you. To which you also got an answer: you may not have any issues so far but you’re more likely to get issues with Meltdown Chance.
Doesn’t mean you WILL have issues with Meltdown Chance, you might be lucky, doesn’t mean either that the other mod won’t EVER have issues. It’s just estimates.

[serene raptor]

but every mod has that risk is my point

[winter olive]

Well yes, but the risk isn’t the same

[serene raptor]

that's why it didn't makes sense

[serene raptor]

i understand

but it hasn't failed yet! of course if it did I would find another

[winter olive]

You might break your legs jumping from your balcony, but it’s more likely to happen the higher you jump from.
Metldown Chance is a 2nd floor balcony, Pizza Probability is on the first floor.

[serene raptor]

I understand

thanks <3

i understand that part is better but i was told the chance part worked differently and that's the whole reason why it wasn't better in my eyes

but i understand now that error preventing wise it's better

[ebon nimbus]

whats pizzaprobability?

did thge new music api comeout?

[late hound]

another mod that adds a chance for the meltdown to not happen

[ebon nimbus]

oh

[barren junco]

it took bro 400 messages to realize 🤦‍♂️

estimate

[lethal marsh]

Someone forked it before https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalIntroTweaks

[dreamy oxide]

Ty

[ebon nimbus]

bongo how is progress on the new music api

[mossy jay]

if all you want is to replace the music, it's done. if you want to use it to replace pizza tower then it isn't ready quite yet

[ebon nimbus]

oh its possible to replace the music now? But how would i upload it on thunderstore, so all my friends will be able to use it

[mossy jay]

look at lr

[ebon nimbus]

alr thx

[mossy jay]

you can also download a template from here https://github.com/LoafOrc/loaforcsSoundAPI-examples

[ebon nimbus]

ok ty

[mossy jay]

Just a heads up that CSync recently updated to 2.0.0 which introduced breaking changes (good breaking changes btw) so if you install meltdown 2.3 with csync 2.0 it will cause issues

working on a fix now but pretty hard with my ear acting up 😭

[marsh loom]

oh

what version should we leave meltdown for it to work?

im still using 1.0.7

for csync

[mossy jay]

thatll work

[mossy jay]

hey @silver igloo (not sure if youre the right person to contact) but meltdown wont be able to update to the new version of csync until at least tommorow, so if anyone complains that it doesn't work they need to roll back to csync 1.0.7

[silver igloo]

Sounds good. If you want to post that in #help-and-troubleshooting I'll pin it for 24h.

[prisma agate]

hope you feel better soon 😔

[odd wyvern]

Should ver 1.0.8 still work yea?

[prisma agate]

yeah v1.0.8 csync is fine

i just played with it

oh wait you asked that hours ago lmfao whoops

[jaunty prairie]

Ear infection? I’ve got one rn it sucks

[mossy jay]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toy-story-buzz-dab-me-up-dab-up-gif-26395273

[hollow crane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1200872169706623086/1211230069473812532/SPOILER_caption-17.gif

[mossy jay]

v2.4 FacilityMeltdown

v2.4

This release lets you use CSync v2.0.0! Make sure to update both!

• Updated to CSync v2.0.0
• Add Chinese translations (FontPatcher also needed), thanks @rominwolf! (sorry it took so long lol 😭)
• Added integration with loaforcsSoundAPI (keep in mind this uses an api i havent actually pushed to thunderstore yet so itll throw an error for a bit :3)
• Fixed an issue where using a preloader to disable a soft depenedncy would cause FaciltyMeltdown to fail to load.

[kind gyro]

Now I’d like to figure out how to link custom music to this API...

[mossy jay]

https://github.com/LoafOrc/loaforcsSoundAPI-examples

[kind gyro]

I'll try to figure it out, but if it doesn't work, I'll wait for other works to repeat after them 😅

[opal zephyr]

loaforc-FacilityMeltdown-2.4.0 was not loaded for me, and does not throw error

[mossy jay]

im going to need a log lol

[opal zephyr]

does not throw error and does not create .cfg

[mossy jay]

isntall loaforcsSoundAPI has a hotfix

netcode patcher doing stuff

got a proper fix incoming

v2.4.1

• Fixed an issue where if loaforcsSoundAPI wasn't installed meltdown would fail to load
• This also fixed any warnings/errors that were attributed to "Netcode Patcher" (hopefully).

[opal zephyr]

2.4.1 fixed the problem, one question more, does this spam warning log normal?
Failed to spawn effect, raycast failed.

[mossy jay]

yeah that is supposed to happen, usually if it happens more than normal an interior has messed something up

might clean it up so its like x/y raycasts were sucessful

[opal zephyr]

alright thanks you👍

[cobalt jewel]

I'm scared 🥺

Problems related to the performance of the mod, and checks in the game have not yet been carried out!

The console shows that he is doing something with Loaforc. soundApi but I can’t understand whether it’s good or bad

[fierce niche]

i also get this error idk if it's normal

i read the warning so i assumed it's normal

[mossy jay]

its fine performance is something I intend to address in the next major update (which will be a while)

[ebon nimbus]

I cant go to the main meny

by clicking confirm to quit

this appears when I try

[mossy jay]

ill forward it to the csync dev, i cant fix it from my end

actually, that looks like an error with rolling giants not being updated to 2.0.0 of csync

i'll have a little peep real quick

[ebon nimbus]

alr does FM latest version reqiure 2.0? or can I use an older version?

[mossy jay]

2.4.x does

[ebon nimbus]

oh so I cant use 2.4 FM with 1.19 (or the version before 2.0) for csync

tried disabling Rolling giant

lets see if it works

[mossy jay]

was wrong on rolling giant, it doesnt use csync

[ebon nimbus]

oh ok

[mossy jay]

actually that is because a mod hasn't updated to csync 2.0.0, not sure exactly which one but id check what mods depend on it

yeah im unable to reproduce it myself

[ebon nimbus]

im dumb its probabaly superior selling

[mossy jay]

yeah not updated in 2 weeks plus csync 1.0.8, that could be the problem

there might also be other problems

[ebon nimbus]

untinstalled it lets see how it goes

[ebon nimbus]

yea that was the issue, thanks for the help tho!

[static fox]

two ideas for enemy spawning
1: whitelist instead of blacklist setting
2: setting that makes it change minInsideEnemiesToSpawn instead of just spawning a set amount of enemies

[mossy jay]

wdym min spawn?

also I plan to change how that event spawning system works at some point so that could be doable

[static fox]

i think there's a function called minInsideEnemiesToSpawn used by the base game for apparatus and stuff

[mossy jay]

yeah cause it spawns around two enemies doesn't it, well I think a range could be possible just low on the priority

[dawn slate]

it actually does feel like it spawns 5, had a ghostgirl, replicator, shockwave drone, puffer and something else all chase me through experimentation (unlucky girl btw)

[mossy jay]

it should spawn up to five so incase there aren't enough vents it doesn't crash

[dawn slate]

i like that it uses the vent, that way it spawns moon specific stuff often

[ebon nimbus]

I used LR meltdown as a base for my meltdown music mod
but when I download it from thunderstore the file format gets all messed up
Its not in any folder
There should be Music and Scripts inside of BGN- Pizza... (what ever the rest was)
all 3 of those folders are deleted
and then i just have my music files and script in the same main folder as my manifest.json, readme, ect

weird thing is if I manually download it, its fine

from thunderstore it doesent work

or r2modman which I use

[marsh loom]

btw is it fine to have CSync on 1.0.8 while having the latest version of Meltdown?

[mossy jay]

no meltdown 2.4 updated to csync 2.0

it will break with anything below csync 2.0

[marsh loom]

Csync kinda doesnt let me exit out with the current version Csync

[dusk axle]

Something else would be causing that

[marsh loom]

i reverted csync to 1.0.8 and now i can exit

[dusk axle]

Probably coincidence

[marsh loom]

well i was just testing the new mods

but i kept dealing with coilheads on day 1

i just started and the freaking coilhead is camping the main entrance

and the fire exit

[dusk axle]

Lol

I found Better Lobbies seems to touch spawn rates for whatever reason

It's not supposed to

But it does

[marsh loom]

i dont have that

[dusk axle]

Yeah then you got some other mod elsewhere doing something

[dusk axle]

Or it's vanilla rng having fun

Does reverting it to 2.0.0 fix the issue?

[marsh loom]

well i just updated to the latest cuz it dropped

ill go back to 2.0

[dusk axle]

Yeah it could be a new bug

[mossy jay]

no you have a mod that hasnt updated to csync v2

[marsh loom]

hmm lemme check

its either of these 3 i guess

[dusk axle]

Could be Lethal Resonance Meltdown

Since they're focusing on merging it into LR

[marsh loom]

oh

[mossy jay]

no i think its probably arachnophillia

nvm its movement company enhanced lol

[marsh loom]

oof

not sure when will movement company will be updated

waiting to get the Slide and the Jump crouch

anyway. 2.0 is already unable exit out with movement company then

[dusk axle]

jumping while crouched is unrealistic anyways

Lol

[marsh loom]

its for bhops

or double jumps

really

old fps mechanics

since counter strike days

not csgo

doesnt really work in csgo

@mossy jay also that was quick. so its fine 2.1.0 update with 2.4 meltdown?

[mossy jay]

should be

[marsh loom]

woah

we getting slide mechanics?

and the jump crouch?

ive been waiting for those. tried move of the movement related a mods. yours is the one i liked so far. tho the jump is a bit too high which i dont know the values to let it just a tad lower.

tho i most of my crew isnt used to the Hold to crouch option. i usually just give them the version where its on toggle.

if only we can have that toggle on and off in game

once you updated or have new stuff on movement. make a thread and add it on mod showcase

[floral venture]

Any idea what exactly this means?
I sort of get the idea but I figured id ask anyway

[ancient bison]

Just means you don't have the soundAPI installed. You don't need to have it installed and it doesn't cause any issues, it's something that will be used in future updates

[floral venture]

This one?

I do hae it installed it just throws that error.
if it doesnt cause issues then it dont matter

[mossy jay]

you have it installed therefore meltdown is trying to use an API that doesn't exist in the thunderstore version, it will cause no issues

[floral venture]

ah ok

[dawn slate]

so i have strong legs..

[dusk axle]

Welp

@mossy jay rip CSync

[dusk axle]

Sigurd popped in an alternative version

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Sigurd/CSync

[mystic plume]

What happened?

[fierce niche]

💀

[mystic plume]

Oh...

So this is a thing that's happening now

[fierce niche]

yeah it's a trend

[static fox]

why though

[mystic plume]

Take a freaking guess

[fierce niche]

idk ask them

[static fox]

i can't take a guess because i have no info

[static fox]

you've been typing for 15 minutes bro

[mystic plume]

I don't know if talking about recent drama at all breaks rules, but uh, I was referring to that. The difference being that mods like csync are actually freaking important for other mods

[static fox]

i don't know what the recent drama is

[mystic plume]

I'm sorry if talking about it is bad, I just see a modder leaving an angry message and immediately figure that's why

[mossy jay]

yeah lordfirespeed has come in clutch and I'll make that the dependency in a bit

[mossy jay]

alright just an update to swap to lordfirespeed's fork of csync

[dusk axle]

From what I can tell he doesn't have any actual drama or beef with anyone here, and was even super nice to lordfirespeed about lordfirespeed taking up the fork. I think Owen just has a lot of personal stuff going on more than anything else

[mossy jay]

yeah i just swapped to the fork for the general modded players who would see that meltdown depended on something deprecated and therefore think meltdown is deprecated

[dusk axle]

Yeah I also suggested for ImpulsiveLass to do so as well it should work the same since it was a fork of the current version

[dusk axle]

@mystic plume it's important you read this I think ^^

[mossy jay]

yeah pinged them in dev general and theyre working on it

[mystic plume]

Ah. I see.

The, uh, all caps made me think it was in an angry tone

Whoops

[pine cove]

XU is always watching 👀

[mystic plume]

💀

(I know lol)

[dusk axle]

Yeah it's better to not assume things til you actually know what's going on 😆

[mystic plume]

True, maybe I shouldn't have assumed correlation, I think I just have been way too on edge lately for a lot of reasons personal and mod-related and assumed the worst. Anyway, to get things back on topic, I feel like the default track for explosions could be improved with air raid sirens outside

LR Meltdown has them in the last.. minute? I think? But I think it should be a constant wail because the loud sirens are just perfection personified

[pine cove]

Good idea I'll check it out

[drifting galleon]

dunno if this is somn i can ignore but this is in my logs despite having sigurds csync downloaded, do i still need the old one for now or?

and yes i have FM updated

[cursive whale]

Heylo! New to the server was looking for a fix to the problem mentioned by Marx above for Facility Meltdown. I did read the discourse of the creator of C-sync removing their program from Thunderstore, however after downloading Sigurd C-sync i got the same message as Marx. (missing dependacies: io.github.Csync)
Should I await a fix from the developers? Is there a fix i can do to reroute Meltdown to the new C-sync? (forgive my ignorance in the situation and troubleshooting methods)

[unique root]

Recent update I don't even get anything but console spam

[sour falcon]

same issue

[inland raft]

make sure you have every old thing for it

[sour falcon]

so run old csync and new csync? some mods have moved to new csync?

[pine cove]

leave it alone until Bongo (loaforc) updates the mod.

if you update CSync it will break the mods that haven't switched to it.

[sour falcon]

my two most important mods need new csync, and corilate with meltdown

i.e lethal resonance meltdown and lethal resonance

can i use both csyncs?

[scarlet turret]

[sour falcon]

meltdown doesnt function without the old one lethal resonance doesnt function without the new one

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/loaforc/FacilityMeltdown/

[mossy jay]

oh I forgot to change a variable, it'll be a little

revert to 2.4.1 until I fix it

[sour falcon]

so revert meltdown and download new csync? or just revert meltdown?

[mossy jay]

actually just downloading old csync and disabling the new one will work

[sour falcon]

thats what i did for now

[drifting ivy]

I did that and meltdown still doesnt work

[mossy jay]

did you disable the new one

[drifting ivy]

I thought the old one doesnt work

cause its deprecated or whatever

is there a way to redownload the old one if I've already uninstalled?

[bronze nymph]

i did do that

didnt work.

[drifting ivy]

oh

so it just doesnt work either way

[mossy jay]

just wait then

[drifting ivy]

yeah

ty for making the mod!

didn't know there was a place to talk to the cool modders so just wanted to say this is my favorite lc mod lol

[jovial flame]

I can tell lol

this is on 2.4.2

thanks for being communicative about the fix! 🧡

looking forward to it

[mossy jay]

fixed version going up

[jovial flame]

well from my perspective that was fast

😛

[sour falcon]

fixed as in works with new csync

[marsh loom]

what was meltdown version that works with the old Csync?

the one before 2.0

[mossy jay]

2.3 I think

[latent breach]

@mossy jay question about mod integration. does the meltdown sequence have a function that I call to forcefully start it?

[mossy jay]

not in the live version, techincally in my dev version there is.

is there a reason why youd want to do this though?

[latent breach]

my dungeon replaces the apparatus with another similiar'ish event. I had a player ask if the meltdown could trigger with my event as an extra option/feature/compability thingy

[mossy jay]

ahh okay

[latent breach]

If I can just call a function (and be smart about it), then I could add it no problem in theory

[mossy jay]

you could publicize meltdown (like you do the base game) and then instansiate the meltdown prefab, call network spawn and it should just handle it

[latent breach]

oh, the sequence happens with the meltdown prefab?

its all handled by that item?

[mossy jay]

yeah so

GameObject meltdown = GameObject.Instantiate(Assets.meltdownHandlerPrefab);
meltdown.GetComponent<NetworkObject>().Spawn();

thats all the internal code to start a meltdown

its just a matter of getting the prefab

[latent breach]

ahhh, okay okay

I'll probably easily find it with reflection, thanks

[mossy jay]

if you can't figure it out id be happy to quickly get a function you can call in the release version

[latent breach]

nah, this is more than easy enough to start it. it should all be good

[rare island]

I'd love that!
Alternatively if you could tell me how to get the prefab.. 🙂
I already have random events for many modded enemies. An event that triggers meltdown at random in the second half of the day would be awesome imo

[unique root]

Sounds like it would be

[hollow raven]

should i be worried about this kings

[ancient bison]

Which error

[hollow raven]

sorry, the facilitymeltdown ones

i accidentally took a pic of the morecompany one

[mossy jay]

no those errors are supposed to happen right now

[hollow raven]

thank you

[mossy jay]

@latent breach @rare island 2.4.4 is going up which lets you do MeltdownAPI.StartMeltdown(<your mod guid>) to manuallly start a meltdown

[latent breach]

LETS GO

Does the guid exist to catch us messing your mod?

[mossy jay]

yes

lol

[latent breach]

Lmao, understandable

Does the StartMeltdown function stop prematurely if it already started for that round? Or should I code that in?

[mossy jay]

nope it just won't start it

[latent breach]

Ahh okay making sure. Thanks for the ez function

[past salmon]

might wanna validate that this is only running on host

[mossy jay]

well theres other checks inside the meltdown handler that check the prefab has instansiated across all clients

so that check will fail and it just wont start

i still probably should though

[past salmon]

no but that function could potentially try and run .Spawn on a non host client

which will throw an error? i think

[mossy jay]

yeah it will, but if your concerened about it happening then only on the local client there are checks to prevent that

[past salmon]

naurrr just concerned people will misuse it

[mossy jay]

modGUID 😈

[past salmon]

i mean yeah but still 😛

can yell at the child who stuck a fork in the wall or you can put the plastic things in the socket

[mossy jay]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-scp-scp3008-falling-fall-gif-21533740

[latent breach]

Even when I know that I should only call it on the host client, I can still see myself accidently calling it on the client and causing issues

For people less knowledgeable, like that roblox guy, death

[mossy jay]

dw i now more calmy tell people not to put the metal fork in the outlet

[latent breach]

LETS GO

[lyric solstice]

What does this mean

[latent breach]

It's means that you about to face a jester and a mansion explosion when you grab that demonic painting (if enabled in the config)

[lyric solstice]

okay that sounds interesting lmao

[hexed rover]

Personally I always thought that the final blastwave should kill you, and the ship should NOT leave automatically

Imo once you realize its just a forced liftoff it ruined the feel for me, hope this gets added at some points

[vagrant coyote]

Depending on map the orange blast can enter the ship. Titan and offense come to mind. So that would be hard to gauge

[hexed rover]

Make it not kill you in the ship once the lever is pulled

[mossy jay]

it already does this

i originally had it set so that you had to takeoff, but it was less interesting and more confusing on stuff

especially when the decision was made there was no way to tell how long was left until meltdown

overall facilitymeltdown is a mod focused on fun, not on realism.

[hexed rover]

Well theres no point in repeatinglmyself, but personally i excpected the behavior i just typed out and was dissapointed with the reality of this mod just being a 1man autopilot takeoff mod

Hit me

[vagrant coyote]

I had a situation where i was running to the ship with apparatus. I would have made it but custom enemy peepers got me and slowed me down. I made it two meters from the ship before it automatically took off with everyone on the back worried. It was a fun situation. I think automatic leave is good. Plus situations where a dog is camping inside ship and you can't enter you would auto lose if ship didn't take off automatically

[mossy jay]

i make mods for myself primarily, if someone else wants to make that mod im fine with that 👍 (and meltdown is very much not designed as a solo experience)

[hexed rover]

Also a mod that changes the weather once you pull App or similar might be interesting (to stormy foggy rainy exclipsed or flooded)
Obviously would be hard to implement

[mossy jay]

that could be cool, i was going to make a "radiated" weather type that could happen if you landed again and would be a sort of mix between eclipse and foggy

[hexed rover]

Guaranteedlbad weather on immediate revisit? Sounds too punishing and avoidable to be fun or used by players

[mossy jay]

yeah i was planning only on low moons, lore wise id think theyd have a worse reactor.

[fluid mesa]

i really dig this idea! maybe have some sort of oxygen system like when youre under water, where you cant stay on the moon/certain areas of the moon for too long because it's too radiated?

if the area was exploded, idk how anything would still be alive, so having a mechanic where there's still some sort of danger without having actual enemies would be neat

[woven sable]

Please do this

[hoary gorge]

Am I able to replace the music with a separate mod and still use the resonance mod?

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LethalResonance/LETHAL_RESONANCE_MELTDOWN/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/JubbyDubby/Jubbys_Escape_Music_Collection_Serious_Edition/

[hoary gorge]

Or I have to choose one

[woven sable]

I don’t believe the two you particularly posted are compatible, but I’m not 100% sure

[hoary gorge]

I sorta tested it and it might be the case-

But I think it played the alarm sounds from resonance-

But I'm not sure

[woven sable]

I mean at the end of the day if you like what it sounded like why worry 🤷🏻‍♂️ I mean unless you want them to alternate or sum

[hoary gorge]

Yeah I'm gonna check it out what Jubby's changes ( its own audio files)

[rare island]

works like a charm. Now I have a random event that triggers meltdown sometime during the second half of a day.
Since this is my first time doing anything with C# or Unity however.. What's the preferred method of checking if your assembly / API class is available at runtime? This in my code Type.GetType("FacilityMeltdown.API.MeltdownAPI") returns null
Do I have to iterate over all assemblies and their types..?

[mossy jay]

if(BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader.PluginInfos.ContainsKey("me.loaforc.facilitymeltdowni")) { this should just work

then you know that meltdown has loaded and that you can just regularly use the MeltdownAPI class

keep in mind if you use netcode patcher it might have a bit of a moment

[mossy jay]

an updated korean translation is going live, thank you @drifting galleon

[lyric moon]

do i do it?

I don't have the heart to do it. Someone do it for me, then I'll add a +1 onto it. -u -

[rare island]

Thanks! That's a much nicer way

[sour falcon]

how do i rate mods?

[fluid mesa]

hey ive seen some videos of Lethal Resonance and FM having alarms and such in the facility, but whenever I play we don't seem to have the alarms, just explosions, is there a mod im missing or some config?

I have LR, LRM, and FM, i did disable the pizza tower mod cause I didn't really want pizza tower music, if thats the issue

oh and the soundapi

[thick agate]

as always, ain't a SDM episode without the mansion exploding in the end

[sour falcon]

I believe pizza tower is a dependacie for atleast one of those mods I think meltdown, it uses that to play its sounds too

[fluid mesa]

ah oki! tyty

[sour falcon]

Np

[rotund epoch]

what's the changes for v2.4.7?

[late hound]

did you end up implementing the sound api you wanted?

[mossy jay]

going through and re writing the code to be a little nicer

and this is all of the loading steps in meltdown jesus

[mossy jay]

no those changes require a little bit more work

[mossy jay]

lol going all in on polish on the loading log messages

[whole glacier]

just thought i'd say that this is an incredible mod and idk where to even begin to understand how you made this 🫡

OH ALSO wait i Do have a question

in regards to the config where you can disable certain monsters from spawning do i need to type their legal file name (flowerman) or their actual name (bracken) or do either work

[mossy jay]

should be their actual names

[whole glacier]

so like bracken and thumper

cause i notice ya put like centipede instead of snare flea so thats what tripped me up a bit

[mossy jay]

oh maybe not then

been a while since i wrote that code

and its very cooked

[whole glacier]

i see lmao

i mainly ask cause my friend has died way too many times to a bracken after pulling the apparatus (one of those times being me using CC lmao but)

wanted to turn it off so that he doesnt kill me

so i'll probably just shove both names in and hope for the best

[mossy jay]

it won't break if you put in a wrong name

[whole glacier]

i figure as much but confirmation is always good

[magic gazelle]

loaforc sound api breaks when facilitymeltdown is installed can someone help me?

[smoky junco]

Hello, @magic gazelle, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[mossy jay]

you'll need to send a full log

[mossy jay]

you are using an old version of meltdown

[magic gazelle]

i tried using 2.4.5 after the same happened on 2.4.7

[mossy jay]

2.4.7 literally has those files deleted, please try 2.4.7 and send a log

[magic gazelle]

k 1 sec

[mossy jay]

nothing about soundapi/meltdown is broken in this log. it could just be a incompatibility with lcsoundtool

[magic gazelle]

but if i remove facilitymeltdown it works fine

[mossy jay]

it is most likely another incompatibility considering meltdown has no code relating to soundapi or lcsoundtool

[magic gazelle]

it was scarlet mansion's new update

[late hound]

sick! good luck with that bogo :]

[woven sable]

@mossy jay Ayyeee you passed [REDACTED] in downloads

and broke 1 mill

congrats Bongo!

https://tenor.com/view/celebration-celebrate-yay-gif-24947639

[warped ginkgo]

Lmao

[late hound]

YOOO 1 MIL FR???

CONGRATS BONGOOO

[mossy jay]

https://tenor.com/view/aimi-omega-strikers-got-that-in-me-colon-3-gif-8789891938713059126

[prisma agate]

sheeeeeeeeesh grats on 1m

[mossy jay]

v2.5 is coming along nicely, would be a stretch for today but probably tomorrow

im also reorganising the config so you might lose some of your settings

theres also a major internal restructure so mods like, meltdownchance, pizzaprobability and facilitymeltdownpatch may break

[whole glacier]

is there any way of triggering an apparatus pull using the console

tryna make a music replacement mod and i'd hate to have to manually find it everytime

[mossy jay]

nope bepinex's console is pretty trash

[whole glacier]

fuck

this is gonna suck ass

[pine cove]

You can use cullfactory
I have a seed that has the apparatus close to the front entrance.
1094143588
Enter the Door to the left then hug right and you will find it.

[rotund epoch]

thanks for this info

[pine cove]

yw

[prisma agate]

you could maybe ask hamunii to add this as a feature for devtools

[mossy jay]

while it won't be making it into v2.5
what would you guys want to see from alternate meltdowns? i'm thinking a more challenging one on titan could be cool
just unsure on how to make it distinct from the current meltdown

[whole glacier]

i HAVE a suggestion but also a question

what would you wanna hear first bongo

[mossy jay]

i dont really mind

[whole glacier]

okay suggestion first

what if on the ice moons, dine rend or titan (could also be a setting incase a moon like polarus would want it)

instead of a meltdown its a freezeup

like the apparatus is powering the heat and it causes like, a crazy blizzard and freezes everything

[mossy jay]

i'd probably use lll tags to figure out what snow maps are
but that's a pretty cool idea

[whole glacier]

yea

now for the question

wait know what

you would not be the right person to ask

nvm

but yeah

freezeup.....

[past salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/autism-creature-yippee-creature-yippee-autism-woo-gif-10988973615622974862

[mossy jay]

is there a good way to do it with soft dependencies?

[past salmon]

can't think of anything that would be a problem? can you from a initial think?

i somewhat can't think of many things that can't be done soft dependency wise so i might be ignorant in general

[mossy jay]

ahh thats good to hear

is there a simple extension method on like selectablelevel?

like SelectableLevel.GetTags().Contains("snow") could i do something like that

[whole glacier]

wait i Do have a question actually sorry to interrupt

is there any reason why theres a slight desync in timing for when the explosion happens, it went off for my friend a few seconds before it did me

was that just lag or

[past salmon]

Not on SelectableLevel but probably not the worst idea. LLL works by having my custom scripts be like a container/wrapper for the LLL ones. I have a easily accessible list of ExtendedLevels in general and also a trygetextendedlevel function that should probably maybe be public for you

[mossy jay]

just lag, can't really solve that

[past salmon]

ExtendedLevel's have a list of strings for tags

[mossy jay]

ahh thats right you have ExtendedLevel, just gotta hope people tag their moons correctly

would this be the first actual application of those?

[past salmon]

sorry

someone beat you to it like

two days ago 😭

(ignoring the fact i use them for matching dungeons to levels via tags)

[mossy jay]

nah was just curious

[whole glacier]

shame, thanks

[past salmon]

SfDesat released CelestialTint which massively overhauls how planets look when in orbit, and uses levaltags as a way to do presets for them
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/Celestial_Tint/

its cool af

[mossy jay]

oh i saw that mod and was literally blown away that it looks that good

yeah using tags for that makes sense

[past salmon]

some leads for you

https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/a0b7ab6ff03b24983a780fbfa44c69215c15df4f/LethalLevelLoader/General/Content.cs#L13
https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/a0b7ab6ff03b24983a780fbfa44c69215c15df4f/LethalLevelLoader/Patches/LevelManager.cs#L93
https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/a0b7ab6ff03b24983a780fbfa44c69215c15df4f/LethalLevelLoader/Components/ExtendedLevel.cs#L51

i should break in the foreach loop in that tryget

or just have a private dictionary

[mossy jay]

god writing stuff like this is actually fun

[whole glacier]

going back to that question i figured you couldnt help me with

ya know the person who made the pizzatowerbgn mod are they in this server and do they have a thread

i ask cause the whole apparatus meltdown music stuff

[mossy jay]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1195094127457603744

[whole glacier]

thank you :)

[woven sable]

So what I’m hearing is I need to make a new meltdown sound for The Freeze

[whole glacier]

YES

[mossy jay]

yes then i need to finally get the motivation to work on soundapi again

[whole glacier]

warning the facility is gonna fucking freeze over get the hell out of the building

[mossy jay]

2.5 is almost done, just need to do the config reorganisation and then add in more configs for the value of the apparatus

[whole glacier]

personally i set the value to 250 to round it off from 240....

[mossy jay]

80 x 3 is 240 thats why i chose 240

[whole glacier]

oh fair

im just weird like that and i really needed to round it

[woven sable]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleto-skeleton-fire-hell-burn-gif-26129219

Actually

https://tenor.com/view/anime-death-winter-snow-dead-gif-17824678

I feel like the context makes this more accurate

[whole glacier]

oh no he got ghost girled

[woven sable]

NO I MEANT THE FREEZE

[whole glacier]

whos not to say he got ghost girled whole the freeze happened

[mossy jay]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/loaforc/FacilityMeltdownExperimental/

v2.4 FacilityMeltdown [v2.5 beta]

we got that pink icon

[whole glacier]

so just wondering what exactly does 2.5 add

[mossy jay]

its mainly just a bunch of big internal changes

💀

it does add the red flashing lights outside though

[whole glacier]

best update ever

[fluid mesa]

+1 for the freeze/blizzard idea, that sounds sick
idk how hard it would be though, or what the mechanics of “freezing” could be, visually and otherwise

[whole glacier]

creating like a bunch of ice and snow particles and stuff that make it a little harder to leave

[pine cove]

Sending motivation
:3

You should add shake or similar to this when we pull the apparatus. That also applies outside the facility.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Piggy/JesterStompShake/

[mossy jay]

is it broken? camera shake has been in since day 1

[rotund epoch]

there is camera shake

works for me even on the latest update

or did u prefer more intense shaking?

https://tenor.com/view/earthquake-meme-girl-earthquake-meme-ali-j-girl-makeup-earthquake-bizarremakeuptutorialearthquake-gif-23583134

[pine cove]

More intense ye
Sorry
Should have clarified

[woven sable]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-blur-triggered-shaking-gif-17765651

MORE

[pine cove]

You guys get me
Lmao

[woven sable]

I have wanted this very thing for a long time

[pine cove]

Would be nice
Maybe a config setting for intensity

[woven sable]

options include, screenshake: .4, .7, .9, 1.0 and

HIROSHIMA

plz and thank you @mossy jay

[daring cypress]

@mossy jay what will 2.5 have? (Not home to test it)

[mossy jay]

flashing lights outside

[rotund epoch]

it seems like the geiger counter doesn't die even if it runs out of battery

oh and don't mind the misaligned apparatus, that's caused by another mod and will be fixed in a future update.

[mossy jay]

the Geiger counter is so cooked

[vagrant coyote]

tbh I never figured out how to use it and it seems useless/wasteful for 90$

[rotund epoch]

yeah it only works when you're already pretty much about to find the apparatus room any way

[mossy jay]

yeah I forgot to mention that 2.5 contains a buff for it

[jaunty prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/my-reaction-to-that-information-rizz-rizz-face-skylar-skylar-white-gif-16880998473045663365

[rotund epoch]

the geiger counter noise should only increase when:
-you are facing the direction of the apparatus room
-closer to the apparatus room
because it only ticks louder in the general direction, it doesnt tell u what floor its on or if its in another branch of the dungeon.

maybe some other sources of radiation can throw u off, if u want a bit more difficult

[mossy jay]

the only other source atm is the blob

[rotund epoch]

but blob isnt always guaranteed to spawn in

how about adding some worthless radioactive scraps

[static fox]

why would you want it to be harder when you buff it

[rotund epoch]

because a buffed geiger counter that properly gives you an idea on which direction the apparatus room is would make it too easy to find.
the apparatus is pretty valuable so i think it’s fair to make it little more challenging.

is it possible to spawn certain scraps based on the interior? i would imagine something like spawning 2-3 worthless radioactive scraps in the facility interior.

[sullen kiln]

idk if anyone has previosly called this out, but on some moons (mainly offense, if i recall correctly) the big orange fireball is positioned in such a way that it actually reaches the ship before it leaves the moon

I can't say it's not funny clipping into an expanding explosion with absolutely zero reprecussions tho lol

[rotund epoch]

yeah i know what ur talking about

there'd be two solutions to that.. changing the ships animation to go another direction or change where the explosion occurs (currently at the main entrance)
the former would require moon modders to to accommodate for this mod which is kinda unreasonable and the latter ... i dont think changing the explosion location would be ideal. main entrance is used as a point of reference for the mod on where the explosion should be since all moons are set up differently.

and it'd also be unfun for the ship to fly into the explosion and everyone dies and loses everything

maybe another potential solution is flying up above and then facility explodes? it would give less time to view the explosion tho. idk.

[mossy jay]

nah i just need to make it smarter and have it take off sooner based on distance

[marsh loom]

@mossy jay boss

would there be a problem if i run both?

for meltdown

[mossy jay]

uhh maybe because i think they both define the same stuff in the same namespace

[marsh loom]

ok thanks

[lyric moon]

https://tenor.com/view/munsonated-gif-26549638

So you're saying I shouldn't.... use both @mossy jay ...? ; w;

[mossy jay]

i mean if your using both and its working then dont worry

[lyric moon]

Here's a question

one mod is using one csync (yours), another is using the other

if I just remove the older-updated one

even though the other mod isn't using it - would it technically still function?

Since it's calling upon Csync things

in its code (i'm assuming)

Also which csync would be best active now? Owen's? It's recently updated ., .

[static fox]

do you mean delay the explosion? changing the timer per moon sounds annoying

[mossy jay]

like the delay before the ship takes off

rn its set to 3 seconds for every moon, 2.5 has an object that gets defined per moon so its fairly easy to change that

(and gives good modded support)

[vagrant coyote]

the two moons i know of, titan.. the ship is just super close to the door, so the blast reaches you as well (if i recall? perhaps i'm wrong.)

with offense you move in the direction of the blast, so it gets to the ship as well

[lyric moon]

This isn't normal, right? . ,.

is there supposed to be 2?

[mossy jay]

yes?

theres the apparatus, blob and then a global one during the meltdown

[lyric moon]

.-. ...

blob counts as a radiation source . ,.?

Potentially Csync is causing sales issues?

having 2 of em

I don't know what's bricking the sales system to be stuck at the same sale over and over

[sullen kiln]

or the explosion could just expand way slower

[flat bane]

MeltdownAPI.MeltdownStarted turns true once a meltdown has started right?

[mossy jay]

should

[flat bane]

Gotcha, thanks. Do you know when exactly it becomes true? When I check its value in a prefix targeting LungProp.EquipItem() it’s still false. I thought it might have to do with harmony priorities, but even specifying the priority of my patch to be last, or changing to a postfix type patch, MeltdownStarted is false at that point of time.

[mossy jay]

a postfix should work or I think the 'HarmonyAfter' attribute might work (idk I haven't used it)

nvm did not read that a postfix didn't work

uhhh yeah maybe just try looking into harmony after

[flat bane]

alright thank you

[mossy jay]

or it could just be bugged, I remember running into some issues that were weird regarding that variable

if you have meltdown publicized you could do 'MeltdownHandler.Instance != null'

[flat bane]

I’ll test both of those approaches

[flat bane]

I tried it with harmonyafter and postfix and sadly still is false by the time i check it. i know that for previous versions of your mod i could just check GameObject.Find("meltdown") and it would work, but something changed i guess. it's not that important though

[past salmon]

not to backseat but shouldnt meltdown just have an event

[mossy jay]

it should

it did in my Dev branch for 3.0

then I worked on 2.4 and reverted back lol

[mossy jay]

Game object.findobjectoftype and checking if that is not null will work

[mossy jay]

also remember that start meltdown function you said i should add a check to see if the player is host to?

i did, but i may have forgotten a crucial detail

public static void StartMeltdown(string modGUID) {
    if (MeltdownStarted) return;
    MeltdownPlugin.logger.LogInfo($"A mod ({modGUID}) has begun a meltdown!");
    if(!GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.IsHost) {
        MeltdownPlugin.logger.LogWarning("Local Player isn't host! Aborting!!");
    }
    GameObject meltdown = GameObject.Instantiate(Assets.meltdownHandlerPrefab);
    meltdown.GetComponent<NetworkObject>().Spawn();
} 

[worthy steeple]

is this the value set for the apparatus by this mod affected by mods that multiply the value of scarp based off of the weather?

[mossy jay]

probably not

[worthy steeple]

ok ty :]

[flat bane]

i’ll try that. what type should i be looking for?

[mossy jay]

MeltdownHandler

[serene raptor]

it seems to trigger even if a meltdown doesn't occur probably because the mod is still loaded

[mossy jay]

wdym?

[serene raptor]

we were testing all the stuff you suggested and checking for the object always is true

[mossy jay]

what are you guys trying to do?

if you're trying to get if a meltdown will start there won't be any variable for it

[serene raptor]

we were hoping that when the meltdown doesn't happen it would give us a false

[mossy jay]

ahh so like if someone picks up an apparatus that has already been pulled out?

[serene raptor]

no after we supress the meltdown

trying do have a popup when the meltdown doesn't happen and when it does but we have exausted all the ideas besides networking

[mossy jay]

umm you'd probably have to call Destroy on the meltdown handler instance then

like when you suppress it

but yeah you probably should do networking for this its not too hard

[serene raptor]

we don't understand it

[serene raptor]

would it return the next moon?

[mossy jay]

one sec imma try give an overview on how meltdown works

when LungProp.EquipItem is called:
i check if its just been pulled from the facility
if it has:
i spawn a prefab (the "MeltdownHandler" prefab) this prefab has the MeltdownHandler script on it.
from there it also spawns all the enemies and handles all the effects and stuff

the only fesabile way i could see a popup work without networking is if:
you check LungProp.EquipItem on every client and then start some sort of timeout limit
say after 5 seconds if a meltdown hasn't started show the popup

but ofc theres a lot of problems with that

[serene raptor]

this should help den i appreciate your help

[mossy jay]

if you need help with either approach just ask :3

[humble cosmos]

I have a quick question regarding the facilitymeldown mod. I got the custom music working just fine via the pizzatower mod. However, I'm running into an issue when I stack the meltdown chance mod. If I pull the apparatus and the meltdown doesn't happen, all of the custom music still happens. This is due to the fact that the trigger for the custom music in the JSON is the game event type "ApparatusTaken."

So my question is, does the facility meltdown mod have game event type tied to the meldown itself? I'm thinking if it does, I could just substitute that in place of the ApparatusTaken event making the custom music trigger from the meltdown itself instead of the apparatus being taken.

[ancient bison]

Use #1208370988715221052 instead, with that you can just replace the default music rather than add more music ontop

[humble cosmos]

I did try using that at one point but ran into an issue. The original meltdown music and the custom song from loaf would play simultaneously on top of each other. If I turned the meltdown music to zero and set the outdoor volume to false, then no music played at all.

Granted I probably didn't spend as much time with it as I should have, I can probably go tinker with it some more to try and figure it out.

[mossy jay]

while I do support the meltdown chance team in making the mod, I in no way will support it for players

[serene raptor]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1210941635421151272 here's the meltdown chance forum possibly we could try and figure out a way to stop the music

[rotund epoch]

what does this mod need terminalapi for?

[whole glacier]

i assume the terminal command to see when the explosion happens

[static fox]

honestly that might aswell be removed, never seen anyone use that command

[mossy jay]

i do 😔

i was planning to make meltdown more modularised so i might end up spliting it

[past salmon]

U prob don’t need an api for it tbh

[mossy jay]

nah i mean extra features like the terminal command + weather types

[past salmon]

Terminal stuff you could do yourself

Weather you would use my stuff

[mossy jay]

ahh does lll have that? i was gonna see if weathertweaks would work

[past salmon]

Not yet

Half baked praying Zeekerss remade it for v50

It’s fucked rn for modding

[mossy jay]

wdym by this btw?

[past salmon]

it’s not that hard to make new terminal assets

[mossy jay]

oh is that all it does lol?

[past salmon]

i mean what does your terminal stuff do

[mossy jay]

i dont override any commands so adding a new terminalnode would work fine i think

• i already do it for the geiger counter lol

[past salmon]

yee but like what does it do

I don’t play this game 😭

[mossy jay]

gets like the approximate time left until it explodes

im trying to find a good screenshot but half of it is abstracted to language 😭

[past salmon]

so what

put in text

output thing

?

[mossy jay]

Reactor instability at 50%
Approximately 60 seconds left until catastrophic nuclear event.

The reactor is failing. You have very little time remaining before a catastrophic nuclear event happens.

thats basically all it outputs to the terminal

[past salmon]

yeee v. chill to do that

[mossy jay]

i forgot i had a video of it lol 😭
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swgys055PiI

[past salmon]

what do you type in

[mossy jay]

reactor health

[past salmon]

1x TerminalKeyword as a verb for the word reactor
1x TerminalKeyword as a noun for the word health
1x TerminalNode as the resulting screen when those are combined

you'd put healthKeyword, healthNode in reactorKeyword's compatibleNouns list, then easiest way tbh is just prefix patch LoadNewNode and if the new node being passed in is your node, update it's displaytext

[mossy jay]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toy-story-buzz-dab-me-up-dab-up-gif-26395273

[past salmon]

i do a lot more cursed shit to make filter, sort, preview etc. work + have do make things generate at bulk and a lot more variables but
https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/edf7f4e8059949638b2095dcdc81b60326f22ae7/LethalLevelLoader/Patches/TerminalManager.cs

its chill af

[mossy jay]

yeah i think i just used terminalapi because i saw you having so many issues with the terminal

[past salmon]

tbh thats not specifically a terminal problem thats a me touching a thing everyone else touches issue

keep in mind in basegame the terminal display for >moons is literally a string text box in the terminal monobehaviour set in editor

so

[mossy jay]

oh thats cursed lol

[past salmon]

yeahh it had to be completely redesigned

now its super dynamic

splits custom moons by variable split count, prefers to group moons made by the same author. sorts moons by calculated difficulty and sorts groups by calculated avg. difficulty

big yipsee

[pure dawn]

is the mod required by every person in the lobby

[late hound]

yes

[pure dawn]

ok

[pure dawn]

or else it doesnt work or does it just bug out and close your game

[late hound]

uuuuuuh

only thing i know is that it's 100% needed

it will do one of those two things, definitely

[pure dawn]

alright

thanks

[mossy jay]

you just won't be able to connect

[uneven pasture]

bongo, any plans on moving away from TerminalAPI?

(please?)

[mossy jay]

yeah in 2.5, it'll come out when lordfirespeed updates csync cause that'll have some breaking changes I need to fix anyway

[uneven pasture]

nicee

my pack will be one step closer to stability :D

[frail carbon]

I just realized I was completely wrong on what the command was showing

I thought it was showing the reactor's instability and if it was too high it would kill the person who take the apparatus out

I thought that because someone in my group once took the apparatus out and died on the spot so I thought it was that

[uneven pasture]

i never used it but i think it's like the higher the more likely it is for an apparatus to be spawned?

[frail carbon]

No it just tells you how much time you have left until the nuclear explosion

[uneven pasture]

oooh

ok my guess was so far off

[frail carbon]

which is kinda useless

[uneven pasture]

nah i would use it

to maximize time spent on the moon

[frail carbon]

I mean once you're in the ship you don't really have time to get back into the facility

You only have 2 minutes once you take the apparatus out

[uneven pasture]

what if i wanna show the explosion to ppl who've never seen the mod

:)

oh i should add push company

and just push them off the ship and leave

[frail carbon]

The ship takes off automatically when the nuclear explosion starts

[uneven pasture]

i didnt know that either wtf

i always mustve pulled the lever right before

[mossy jay]

i bet you dont know that the blob also emits radiation for the geiger counter to pick up

(cus nobody uses it lmao)

[uneven pasture]

oh yeah the geiger counter is a thing

tbh slimes emitting radiation is a small touch that is 150% welcome in my modpack

[mossy jay]

i think sheff has given me a challenge >:3