[BETA] Immersive Visor

[torpid cliff]

Can confirm i got it too, not using ultrawide or anything like that

[carmine wren]

Thanks for letting me know. I'm really just proving myself in the worst way possible

update will be pushed soon

[oblique spoke]

I just wanna state here It works with BetaWeatherTweaksBeta where they have this weather combination effect (currently Stormy + Rainy)

[carmine wren]

nice pfp btw

[keen spoke]

1.0.0: January 18
1.1.0: January 21

2.0.0: January 28

3.0.0: February 8
3.0.1: February 8
3.0.2: February 9
3.0.3: February 13

4.0.0: February 25
4.0.1: February 26
4.1.0: March 1

If I went with my original plan for 4.0.0, it wouldn’t even be out yet 💀

Also I kinda named the updates poorly lol

[torpid cliff]

ty ty

[solar lagoon]

Yeah the visor broke

[carmine wren]

This is 'supposed' to fix that rim stretching

But can't trust my computer

I would be really appreciated if someone could test if it still breaks in this one.

[solar lagoon]

give me a sec

visor works

[carmine wren]

Thanks!

It's pushed

gonna take some time showing up

[round quest]

i feel bad for you with all the problems you've been encountering 😅

[solar lagoon]

Don't know if this is normal but the droplets disappearing is not smooth

[carmine wren]

hmm

[solar lagoon]

I have set raindrop dry time to 24

[carmine wren]

It was using wrong math will be pushed soon

[oblique spoke]

nice, it works!

[carmine wren]

dry time fixed

along with some minor bugs I found along the way

[vagrant oak]

did it become un-client side at all? i saw the update when i got on and now i cant join vinnila lobbys

[carmine wren]

Don't think so. My mod doesn't do anything regarding netcode

[vagrant oak]

weird

[shrewd tundra]

I found bug where sun is seen through visor

[lime thistle]

good job

you are the first

[shrewd tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/mika-noah-raj-yay-cheer-gif-26009901

[oblique spoke]

I can smell that sarcasm lmao

[shrewd tundra]

[subtle maple]

@carmine wren

[Bug report #1]

The new visor rim is not color-accurate to the removed rim. It also is not affected by lighting conditions like the vanilla rim is.
The vanilla rim casts shadows as well depending on viewpoint and orientation to light sources.

[Bug Report #2]

The Terminal view is affected by the new rim. In pictures linked you can see that planet names, weather conditions, cost, and other important information not shown on other pages is obscured by the new rim.
the Vanilla hud fixes this by zooming into the visor to remove it from view of the screen.

Immersive Visor

[carmine wren]

@subtle maple
Both are not really bugs but rather the side effect of using post processing to render visor.
Since the current visor just draws shape on top of the screen with no mesh or anything.
But I'm working on getting back physical visor so said issues can be resolved.

[subtle maple]

Vanilla visor.

[subtle maple]

good to know. Currently, it has a mod compatibility problem with General Improvements as users that install both of these mods these features on by default.

[hallow dagger]

Unrelated.

[subtle maple]

Users either have to disable this in GI or disable the Rim in Immersive Visor to be able to see the top and bottom of the monitor.

It can be jarring to those who do not modify configs and just install via R2 codes.

[hallow dagger]

That just doesn't allow you to use mouse to move the camera. Has nothing to do with visor.

[subtle maple]

if you look carefully at this image. You can see the text is cut off.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191113181653905423/1219942462399840307/image.png?ex=660d22f4&is=65faadf4&hm=0dd39bcf4da75c8a4ccd53789af5423486c3f67c108ec65743a19138cbc85e50&

It is related.

[hallow dagger]

Your already got the answer why it happens.

That option in GI will change nothing when it comes to IV rim.

[carmine wren]

I'm going to add temporary fix for rim obscuring terminal view before getting physical visor back.
Since I can just move those up/down just by adding some value.

[subtle maple]

@hallow daggerWith all do respect why are you being dismissive and aggressive with me? This is the second time you have responded to my comments recently. They have both been in the direction of a negative interaction?

[hallow dagger]

That's just your perception. You're wrong and I'm telling you why.

[subtle maple]

The last instance was when I was talking in general to EasyIdle about MEOF and masked weights.

[subtle maple]

Many thanks! I am sure this will assist others as well.

[iron herald]

@carmine wren I just noticed that NoMorePush is gone 😦 any reason as to why?

[carmine wren]

Whoa there was someone actually using that?

I made that as a learning experience and thought I couldn't support it well

I can un-deprecate it

[carmine wren]

It was mainly because I wasn't sure if that mod was actually working or not

[hallow dagger]

I literally presented you with all the options for your problem. What are you on about?

[iron herald]

It worked when I tried it but we had some issues with the game lagging and such for whatever reason

[carmine wren]

That mod uses transplier to replace player pushing force to 0 and nothing else.
Not sure where the lag could be coming from.

[iron herald]

I think the lag was from the bug that LethalEmotesAPI had that got fixed

Where it was using an outdated version of Evaisa's Netcode Patcher

It caused havoc for us

Like high ping issues and such

We did a lot of nuking of recent mods at that time to find out what it was cus we added them all at the same time

😂

[carmine wren]

lol

I see

It's back up now

[iron herald]

💜

[iron herald]

You might get more people made aware of it if you make a mod thread for it btw which I think you should totally do cus it's a great mod. Once you have over 4 players on the ship everyone starts getting shoved around 😂

[carmine wren]

Thanks for suggestion, I might as well

[carmine wren]

rim moves out of the way now

Btw, are there any mods out there that let you use terminal outside hanger ship?

[golden sage]

you just squish your face against the helmet to get a better look at the terminal 😭

[golden sage]

uh

i think there's a mod that lets you place furniture anywhere

dont remember what its called

[carmine wren]

I should try looking for furniture mod then. Thanks

[iron herald]

This might be the weirdest suggestion, but I wonder if a toggle could be added that allows you to disable the visor rim but keep the immersive effects, I love the idea of the immersive screen effects of this mod but have never been a fan of the visor rim itself blocking off the top and bottom of the screen. I'm probably in a minority here for this tbh 😅

[carmine wren]

isn't disabling the rim effect already an option?

[golden sage]

oh

wait

do you mean like the visor not being visible at all

neither from this mod or the vanilla one

[carmine wren]

I forgot to add an option for showing vanilla visor in previous update so turning off that option should make no visor visible

[golden sage]

[iron herald]

Let me see now ;o

Cus I wasn't aware that option was added if that's the cae all this time I've been using FOV Adjust with the visor disabled 😂

Yeah that's what I wanted anyways, but I guess if people want the vanilla visor to be visible then you can add that too lol

[oblique spoke]

I think he’s currently working on that feature

[iron herald]

He is

He just said he forgot to add it

😆

Yeah it works ^^ nice I can remove FOV_Adjust then

My friends should love this lol

[carmine wren]

windows look terrifying. Didn't know you could add them on the floor

[iron herald]

Haha yeah

[torpid cliff]

i wonder what that looks like in VR

[carmine wren]

Heard someone saying it's not compatible.

I can't do much since I don't have a VR to test with

[crisp dove]

Sorry for being so late with coming back after having reported a problem, lot of stuff been going on so ive been a bit busy, just wanted to say that the new update fixed the issue i was having, mod works great and is super cool, looking forward to the extra immersion it will bring!

[carmine wren]

Glad to hear that optimization actually did something.

[strong hare]

Finished a session with 8 of my friends using this in a big modpack and didnt encounter any problems relating to the mod. Thank you for your hardwork!

[cursive lava]

will there have an option that lower the effect graphic to match with the game's graphic? current effect is high res, its good but seems a little bit off with the game graphic

[carmine wren]

Option to pixelize the effect is there but never thought about making it visible

I'll add a config in the next patch

[lime thistle]

I agree with this

[carmine wren]

Sorry for using phone camera. Anyway, just pixelizing should be enough right?

It would look like this

[lime thistle]

Would we be able to choose values in between?

[carmine wren]

If you're talking about how much it gets pixelized, yes

[lime thistle]

Cool

Works for me

How about the other effects?

[carmine wren]

visor rim's moving to using physical one so pixelating that won't be an option, and crack does have this option in there too. Just not exposed

But with how thin the cracks are now (which I really should replace) it won't look good but I'll add it anyway

[cursive lava]

maybe easier to tell in game,but this is already much better. thank you very much!

[iron herald]

Btw @carmine wren is it normal for Eclipsed Rend to be so hard to see on with this mod installed? Feels like you can't see more than an inch in front of you 😭

[green lava]

fire ngl the game is too easy for me i might need to play a lil less carefully i usually go in extremely quick get all the scrap in a section of the map before the monsters spawn run back to the ship and wait in it and sometimes i retrieve the scrap in the door and get a lil more

[carmine wren]

There's something wrong if it really make the fog thicker. I'll check what's up with that.

[earnest garden]

now imagine if this worked in vr thanks to the new vr api thingy.

[iron herald]

Yeah I noticed it was harder to see when walking into steam valve fog too lol

[iron herald]

Another thing worth noting is it seems like for some there's been reports this mod lowers their frame rate but others say it makes it better, if you know why I would love to know lol

[carmine wren]

worse: probably because of raindrop computing
better: got no clue

Also about fogging, it might be Diversity.

[iron herald]

Is there a conflict with Diversity atm?

[carmine wren]

but then my knowledge regarding Diversity is 2 months behind so don't take it as fact

no

I heard that mod adds screen fogging

[iron herald]

Oh well as far as I'm aware Diversity doesn't touch fog, I know you can have it make vision darker hmmmmm

@undone dragon Does Diversity mess with fog at all?

Oh yeah if you have the player conditions on it can

I turned them off my bad my bad

Btw what exactly do the RaindropShadows do? I imagine they would have the larger fps hit of the 2 options you mention to disable for performance

but could be wrong

I'll have to see how it looks with it off, I'd never wanna turn off the specular effect cus that would just make them look flat

[carmine wren]

oh yeah, I added them when it was actually costly. now not so much.

[iron herald]

Btw I noticed Bees don't crack the visor when taking damage to them which I found to be kind of funny

Lol

[carmine wren]

wait, specular 'might' affect performance a little bit. Shouldn't be a problem tho

[iron herald]

Interesting ;o

[undone dragon]

Not fog itself but postprocessing yeah

[magic valley]

okay-

it's weird cause the darkness thing is bugged from that mod-

like the dark areas are a tad lighter, and light is darker

[iron herald]

Disable FullDarkness

[magic valley]

ah k, sucks cause I like that part of the mod-

hopefully it get's fixed

[iron herald]

I mean just adjust it then

to your liking if it's bugging you

[magic valley]

it's at 0.5-

[iron herald]

Okay and if it still feels off keep adjusting

[magic valley]

ah k

[iron herald]

til it feels to your liking

It's a personal preference setting

[carmine wren]

Config backwards compatibility.

Useless, horribly written, time wasted, but it's there now.

So at least people won't have to delete and set configs again when I make changes to them.

[solar lagoon]

I didn't even know we needed to delete the config file

[carmine wren]

I'm probably wrong on so many levels so that part might not be true.
I just remember some stray configs still being there when I moved around config sections and keys.

well, at least when I was testing that happened so I'm probably right... hopefully

it was out of pure interest anyway

I just gotta hope people won't touch this

there's a better way but I don't know them

[undone dragon]

Darkness shouldn't change the screen contrast. Tho if you got screenshots of the differences so I can see the issue that would be appreciated

[magic valley]

yeah it's broken-

its on 1

[iron herald]

My game doesn't look like this at all odd

[magic valley]

might be an a mod causing it though not sure which one I have

[iron herald]

Idk which mods you have to really be able to tell you

😅

[magic valley]

can I send you my modpack or no?

So far I feel that it might be cullfactory

[iron herald]

Can you post the list?

Nah wouldn't be CullFactory

[magic valley]

oh sure

I just put the dependancy list into text

[undone dragon]

Okay so that's normal. "Night vision" (that's how the game call it) only turns on when inside the facility. Otherwise it's turned off.

[iron herald]

I'm not seeing anything there that really stands out 🤔

[magic valley]

OH okay-

Just wanted to make sure if it was working

[undone dragon]

And that's vanilla.

[magic valley]

thanks!

[undone dragon]

Np!!

[iron herald]

I think I've gotten so used to having CozyImprovements and Ship Windows that that's why it looked off to me

XD

[undone dragon]

Ohh yeah makes sense

[carmine wren]

While trying things for physical visor,
I just threw custom pass to render the visor in front of everything (after post process) and it worked

now to model the thing

[undone dragon]

Diversity also uses that btw. If you notice your thing not working with diversity just change it's priority c:

[carmine wren]

I did bunch of shapes but shamefully circled back to just simplest curved shape.
I'll probably move onto changing cracks, raindrops and then come back to this to see if I can do something to it without hurting the game's feel.

also kinda bothering that you can't really blur the rim part this way.

or maybe I could fake it making edge part of the rim texture transparent? idk

[carmine wren]

0.4.5
`

• Changed post processing visor rim to physical visor rim.
• Added options to pixelate Raindrop/Crack/BloodSplatter effects.
• Minor bug fixes.
  `
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Woecust/Immersive_Visor/

[oblique spoke]

Whats the difference between using the normal effects vs pixelated ones? Issit for improving the performance?

[carmine wren]

No the performance doesn't get affected at all

just for visual

[oblique spoke]

I see.

Also, speaking of that matter, My friends and I have tested using IV and vanilla visor, and they claimed that when equipping this mod, they tend to get stuttering and fps drop. Without it, theres a difference in performance. I’m not sure why but I also quite noticed abit difference in stuttering. We all have okay-ish specs tho.

[carmine wren]

When it causes lag, it's probably almost always raindrop effect.

was it raining?

[oblique spoke]

Ouh I haven’t asked them on which part causes fps drop/stuttering tho. They just concluded it at the end of the day lol

For me tho, i didnt noticed that much of a drop in performance tho when it comes to rain

Maybe most prob I got 3060ti and ryzen 5

[carmine wren]

I'll see what I can do about it to optimize it more

[lime thistle]

hi quick question - the higher the value of the pixelation setting the more pixelated it will be?

[carmine wren]

The lower the it is, the mote pixelated it will be

[lime thistle]

ah

[carmine wren]

And I didn't test it, but I believe pixelated option can be modified real time with lethal config

[lime thistle]

slightly confusing since the default value is 0 which means no pixelation

[carmine wren]

that's just for turning it off

think of it as resolution

[lime thistle]

yeah I get it

I was just confused about 0

it doesnt seem to work at the moment

[carmine wren]

pixelation?

do you have auto option turned on?

that might be why

hmm

it only updates real time for auto it seems

this should make it real time.

[carmine wren]

while thinking about my mod...

does the game even has snowy weather? Or even just snow effects?

I just assumed when just starting because there was a moon covered in snow but seems like there isn't

[iron herald]

I would love for actual snow weather in the game tbh, currently it just feels like there's blizzard like winds and that's it on the Tier 3 planets

[white kraken]

also maybe a sandstorm for desert moons

[carmine wren]

If there's a weather mod that adds stuff like that, then I'm willing to make compatibility patch.

[iron herald]

There used to be one but it got deprecated

I can't remember what it was called

[white kraken]

I had that mod for ages and I never saw a snowstorm once

it was hullbreaker company I think

would love to see more alien or strange weather that doesnt actually exist

[carmine wren]

This is a dumb idea but I would love UFO weather mod

Them just randomly hanging by trying to kidnap players with flying saucer

[white kraken]

few weather ideas, acid rain, windstorm, gravitational anomaly

[jade breach]

"Company" weather that's basically eclipsed but there's eldritch tentacles reaching from the skies

[white kraken]

ill prob make a thread in #1188298686560739389 about new weather

[carmine wren]

I legit wanna try UFO and tentacles. Sounds like a lot of fun to model and texture.

But then that's gonna take months with my programming skill so I should really just focus on visor

[white kraken]

just curious do you know how to model or animate?

[carmine wren]

Animate not so much

modeling and texturing is what I mainly do

[white kraken]

nice

I want to learn to animate as I want to fix some of the vanilla animations

there is soo, soo much clipping

also a mod that makes the gear you are carrying get displayed on your person, kind like how reserved slots does it would be peak

[carmine wren]

what gears?

[white kraken]

I mean like flashlights, walkies shovels etc

like when you dont have it selected you have the shovel on you back or have your walkie clipped to your belt

[carmine wren]

what does reserved slot does with those?

[white kraken]

When you have something in a reserved slot it appears on you personal similer to what I described

[hallow dagger]

Only flash and walkie.

[carmine wren]

you can use them without having it on hand?

[hallow dagger]

Yes. Although flash shines without being in hand even in vanilla.

[white kraken]

I personaly dont like reserved slots but I like the visuals of it and would love a mod that expands that idea

[hallow dagger]

You can balance them by making them purchasable or with other mods.

[white kraken]

Not really needed with ac

[hallow dagger]

Meh.

[white kraken]

since helmet lamp, headset and tactical helmet

[hallow dagger]

Ticking timebomb of a mod.

[white kraken]

Ill swap when the time right

but not rn

[white kraken]

im working on swapping my configs to lethal quanities tho

so I wont have to redo that shit

[hallow dagger]

@carmine wren so how did you end up implementing pixelization?

[white kraken]

with their balls

[hallow dagger]

What are those values exactly?

[carmine wren]

resolution

lower the value the pixelated it will be

[hallow dagger]

So are the defaults 64x64?

[lime thistle]

aha it was auto thanks

[carmine wren]

no deafult is 0

[hallow dagger]

Oh, right.

[carmine wren]

0 makes it doesn't use pixelated look

[hallow dagger]

Okay, but if it's set to 64 for example, what is it?

[carmine wren]

that was random value I set for during testing but I'll show you

[hallow dagger]

Because I assumed 64x64 on some kind of grid. But then the question is, what size the grid is?

Or is it just the resolution of a square in the center? Or is it just height?

[carmine wren]

put it simply, in shader, pixel size is 1.0 / ScreenWidth and 1.0 / ScreenHeight

and it samples every (1.0 / ScreenWidth) to get color on the screen

[graceful sleet]

It would be really awesome if this could be done, can never go wrong with modularity.

Personally have ran into incompatabilities with the visor so would be nice to revert to the vanilla one.

[hallow dagger]

Like?

[graceful sleet]

I'd try and figure out what is incompatible but have a hundred mods, will put some time aside when I have some spare to try and figure it out.

[carmine wren]

My brain doesn't know how to say all this in english, so I'm just gonna say
pixel size of rendered effect in screen becomes 1.0 / (screen width or height) to 1.0 / pixelatedSize

[hallow dagger]

pixelatedSize is the config value I assume?

[carmine wren]

yeah

[hallow dagger]

And screen width or height is native?

[carmine wren]

usually

[iron herald]

New bug

[carmine wren]

ahhh

[iron herald]

I have the visor set to be off

[carmine wren]

setting off makes that happen probably

I just remembered I forgot to make rimShow option actually takes effect with new visor.

[hallow dagger]

I see. Well, you know I'm going to use auto option mostly. I wanted it after all. But I bet the question will come up again from others. It's not a straightforward formula to say the least. Not your fault though.

[iron herald]

Lol hotfix incoming

[carmine wren]

Pixelate option supposed to react real time using LethalConfig but I forgot to add that too

[twin grail]

yikes

3rd camera breaks visor

[carmine wren]

lol what the hells going on

I should find a way to let the camera know it's not in first person

and for some reason Rider won't open

[hallow dagger]

Finally, me with my ultrawide is not the one suffering from bugs.

[hallow dagger]

That hotbar customisation mod allows to customise reserved slots separately?

[iron herald]

The texture on the reserved ones doesn't load in right away, it usually ends up fixing itself though

[hallow dagger]

So do they just use the same one as all the others?

[iron herald]

It tends to load the normal 4 immediately, extra hotbar slots are white and eventually the texture loads

yeah

[hallow dagger]

Aw

[twin grail]

plus visor disappear for 1 frame when switching emote

or just 1 frame delay to move visor?

[carmine wren]

it's attached to player camera. might be custom pass thing but not sure

[hallow dagger]

Nevermind.

[carmine wren]

what happened?

[hallow dagger]

This.

[carmine wren]

setting RimShow to true fixes it for now. Also fixed in local build. Going to get pushed with 3rd camera problem fix soon

dang

[solar lagoon]

I've got a major performance hit since the new visor update

[hallow dagger]

Is vanilla visor a full helmet?

[carmine wren]

yes

[carmine wren]

what happened?

[solar lagoon]

Well I just updated the mod and my in-game performances got hit

Disabling the mod fixes it so it's certainly the mod

[hallow dagger]

Still think you should've stuck with shader rim, but I'm not the target audience for the visor rim anyway. The current one will have weird lighting due to not being a full helmet.

[carmine wren]

it's the same as full helmet

since light still goes through full helmet

[hallow dagger]

Oh, even in vanilla?

[carmine wren]

and make it shine when light's behind you

yeah

the first reason I was trying to make custom rim was because of that

[hallow dagger]

Right, that's why I asked. I thought it being full blocked off the light. Nevermind then.

The first point still stands I guess. Sun shining through is a lesser evil in my book.

[carmine wren]

this is one with 3rd person and rimShow option fixed

not sure about why the performance hit

[carmine wren]

could you try the new one with RimShow set to false and check if that keeps happening?

If it goes away with that, it probably because of rim

if not, probably something I changed with post processing

I'll push this one first for now

[hidden palm]

After the recent update I just don't have the visor anymore lol

For reference only things that would probably affect it are LCUltrawide and HDLethalCompany. LCUW is default settings and HDLC is default graphics settings aside from

Anti aliasing on
Post processing off
LOD 2x distance
ResFix off (LCUW does it better for me)

Didn't change any settings in those since the update but I had the visor in the previous version

[carmine wren]

maybe ultra wide requires different fov for the model to fit in the screen

I should check

[solar lagoon]

Just tried it, it is definitely the rim. It made me loose 40 fps lmao

[carmine wren]

lol wth

[hidden palm]

The fact it worked as a post processing effect when I have post processing disabled in HDLC is very funny to me

[carmine wren]

is custom pass that taxing

[solar lagoon]

from 120 to 80

[carmine wren]

probably because it was using seperate volume

[hidden palm]

unity is a well designed engine with no weird issues whatsoever

[iron herald]

I'll test it rq 👍

[hidden palm]

I'll probably just downgrade a version for now until a fix is figured out 👍

[iron herald]

I'm sure he'll fix it before he pushes the hotfix to TS

[iron herald]

Yeah looks fixed to me no rim in first or 3rd person anymore

[carmine wren]

it's pushed. now I should test ultra wide and find a way to reduce performance hit

[iron herald]

I use LCUltrawide if you want me to toss the mod pack over, it's kind of a beefy pack though 😆

@hallow dagger did you notice any performance hit after the new update? I know you use LCUltrawide too

[carmine wren]

window doesn't fit in my monitor but it seems visible

it does disappear with hdlethal

[stuck barn]

I mean it would be a nice touch but since snow really only applies to once you decide to go to titan or the other two moons then

[hallow dagger]

Can't tell. I haven't tested that.

[carmine wren]

seems like hdlethal disabling custom pass for gameplay camera's making the custom pass disappear too

[iron herald]

I don't use HDLC personally but I'm not surprised

[hallow dagger]

HDLC seems to be nothing but trouble tbh.

[iron herald]

Yeah

HDLC also hurts performance

[carmine wren]

not much I can do about it.
unless I set it back to use custom pass and make it only disables game's default custom pass.

[iron herald]

I mean HDLethalCompany has been becoming recommended to get rid of more and more cus it causes compat issues a lot and touches a lot of things it shouldn't

[carmine wren]

I guess it would still be a nice touch. Though would be kinda weird with moon not actually snowing

Need to check if there's snow mod

wasn't there a way to intervene other mod in my own mod?

wait, no

[hidden palm]

I mean, you could argue Rend is always snowing. The fog is clearly blowing snow based on sound

[carmine wren]

since my visor gets instantiated later setting it back to use custom pass for main camera would just work actually. then disable default custom pass if hdleathl has that option to true,

[carmine wren]

yeah I should just do it

particles would've been nice but I can care about that later

[iron herald]

Stormy Weather on Rend makes no sense due to this

Lol

[hidden palm]

an issue my friend was having was that blood splatters on her helmet were a completely different color and also fully opaque for her, and I haven't been able to replicate the issue on my end

[hidden palm]

Snowy thunderstorms do exist

They are an exceedingly rare phenomenon, but they have happened

So you could argue Rend frequently has the right conditions for it lol

it's a science fiction universe you can bullshit your logic through just about anything

[carmine wren]

I know it's preference but lethal company without custom pass effect looks cursed to me

anyway, visor rim it works now with hdlethalcompany

[iron herald]

It looks cursed to me too

lol

[carmine wren]

it's going to be pushed with performance fix (if I managed to find it)

[iron herald]

Why does it look so weird? 😂

The game's normal custom pass effects and post processing shaders really add to it tbh, you don't notice just how much until you see it without it ☠️

[carmine wren]

it feels like this

[iron herald]

Wtf lol

[carmine wren]

it should lag less now but I'm not sure.

[iron herald]

I can't read that without laughing even though Ik what it means 🤣

[carmine wren]

lol

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Woecust/Immersive_Visor
0.4.7
`

• Fixed visor rim not showing with HDLethalCompany EnablePP set to false.
• Optimized visor rim.
  `

[green lava]

ay you've been updating a lot after that long silence

[carmine wren]

Just needed some time to learn

still don't know a thing tho

[pine wagon]

Could you make the blood more like water drops

Or something liquid

[carmine wren]

it's planned

probably after I replace scuffed cracks

[white kraken]

reminds me, I talked with the oxygen dev and he gonna add the ability for the visor to be busted open causing a big oxy leak

[carmine wren]

oh yeah I saw that

[twin grail]

Is it for me or Immersive Visor currently makes shader outline to be very intensive

before vs after

[carmine wren]

oh it does, didn't even realize

[iron herald]

I never noticed this lol

[carmine wren]

maybe it happened in the process of making it compatible with hdlethalcompany

[iron herald]

probably

Are you still planning to add an option for people to use the vanilla visor rim btw? I can certainly see people preferring the vanilla design lol

[carmine wren]

yeah, even I feel that way

it's terrible now

I have some idea

to make vanilla rim work with current effects

this looks normal right?

no

I don't know

[cobalt aspen]

I kinda like it

[twin grail]

I like it too, but when this happens - I don't like it

[solar lagoon]

Oh so it was this mod that was causing that issue

[cobalt aspen]

Interesting how the visor is rendered

[chilly moth]

new visor?

[cobalt aspen]

Ok it's a little intense in certain lighting

[carmine wren]

found issue and fixed in local build.
But then there's this one issue that popped up that I need to fix.
It'll be pushed when I manage to fix other one too

[snow ridge]

👋 hiya, i just wanted to ask if itd be possible to add a config option to make the rain effect less intense? i like the rain effect but it feels like theres too many raindrops on my screen too quickly haha

[carmine wren]

sure

[snow ridge]

thank you :D

[hallow dagger]

This is extremely nitpicky, but it seems that pixelization doesn't result in square pixels. Probably related to ultrawide.

[carmine wren]

ah

that should be an easy fix

[hallow dagger]

Very hard to pixel count them.

Did you even correct droplets for wider aspect ratios?

[carmine wren]

not yet. I still have no clue why that happens

[hallow dagger]

Maybe it's just that then.

[carmine wren]

because it doesn't stretch when I open the window with ultrawide resolution

[hallow dagger]

Nah, wouldn't affect pixels looking wider.

Does this look wider than it should? Or is that okay?

[carmine wren]

oh I should update that

[carmine wren]

a little bit stretched I think?

It's hard to tell

kinda stretched

[hallow dagger]

Should be more noticable on this one.

Pixelization is definitely a bit widened.

This is 1/3 of native, so that pixels are perfect squares.

[carmine wren]

becomes very clear with super low res

think I did it, it's square now

[carmine wren]

0.4.8
`

• Fixed post processing sorting problem.
• Fixed pixelate effect stretching.
• Added RaindropIntensity option.
• Minor shader changes.
  `
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Woecust/Immersive_Visor

Shouldn't have taken this long just for this

I broke my shader on accident and had to fix that

[solar lagoon]

Performance is still as bad as before

[plain dome]

As an ultrawide user, I actually preferred the way the visor was longer/took a bit more space over the whole screen, mostly the top section, it may just be a preference but I personally prefer to keep a bit of the vanilla "claustrophobic" helmet style rather than having it so small it's barely noticeable. Especially now that it reacts to ambiant lighting, I feel like it would be a waste not to show more of it?

Left pic is the previous 0.4.7 version, while the right one is the newer 0.4.8 version

[iron herald]

I mean the change to the visor size wasn't in the changelog so that might be unintended

[plain dome]

Yes that's also what I suspected, but in case it was I wanted to report it 🙂

[iron herald]

@carmine wren maybe you can look into what happened lol

[plain dome]

For the reccord I actually may prefer the way the bottom section looks in the newer update, but I prefer the top one from the previous one

In future updates tho I think it would be great to have an option to bring back the helmet on the sides, like bottom right and left corner of the screen

Oh and another thing I forgot to mention before in case it's something you are able to check / fix (sorry I know this may probably sound like a lot right now 😅 ), but since I'm using an ultrawide, the cracks only apply on the far left and right side, leaving the center completely untouched, maybe some kind of size option or aspect ratio could help fix it?

[vagrant oak]

whats that north thing uptop?

[plain dome]

A compass from this mod:

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HectorAlligator/Solos_Ring_Compass_TWEAKED/source/

Sadly it's not open source and doesn't look like it's being maintained...

But I'm still using it while I still can, I personally really like it

[vagrant oak]

is there only north lol

[plain dome]

No no

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1212942407306313788/1219307110706315377/Ly5SywA.gif

[vagrant oak]

thats super cool ngl lol

[plain dome]

ikr

[chilly moth]

did you try to get the old helmet glass crack back?

[iron herald]

is this mod client sided? ;o

or does everyone need it?

[chilly moth]

client sided

[iron herald]

👍

[hallow dagger]

No matter the aspect ratio, elements like this should stay consistently sized and scaled between all of them.

[carmine wren]

I'll add an option for bisor aspect

[hallow dagger]

Personally don't think you should bother, but you do you. Positioning being aspect dependant is one thing, but stuff getting stretched/squished is undesirable no matter how you look at it.

[carmine wren]

it's mostly because I think of this when making it.

[carmine wren]

I think I'm satified with the rim now

[hallow dagger]

Nice.

Incoming "can we have an option to disable DoF".

[carmine wren]

it's just game's default depth of field effect

[hallow dagger]

How is your experience with configs btw? Heard from others that they're a bit of a pain to set up.

[carmine wren]

this is first time me getting my hands on something like this

so I don't know

[hallow dagger]

Right.

I guess they can get worse depending on how code heavy a mod is.

[thorn pelican]

Any chance you would be willing to add a config that switches the visor rim back to the post-processing version?

I do like the physical mesh, but having the option would be nice

[carmine wren]

sure

Also regarding visor rim performance,

It's currently doing this. Just getting motion vector from only visor rim and blit the custom buffer to render texture. Then using that to mask out effects.

I don't know how this is going to fare with previous update performance wise, but I don't know how to optimize from here.
Since it's using custom pass, it's always going to be more costly than just post processing alone or not doing anything like vanilla.

I'll keep trying since it's probably because I don't know enough. but it's going to take a bit of time for me to learn.

[solar lagoon]

In the meantime, is there a possibility to bring back the pitch black visor or the default one as an option?

[carmine wren]

post processing one will be added as an alternate option.
and about the default one, are you talking about vanilla rim?
Because if I use default one without any custom pass thing, effects will be seen through it.

[solar lagoon]

Ah ok I understand

[carmine wren]

The new mesh thing is now just replaced mesh in the same place as vanilla rim. Just using custom pass to mask that part out for post processing.

[keen spoke]

Nah what we really need is a way to extend the LOD without HDLethalCompany

The pop-in can be so noticable on some custom moons

But I’ve heard enough bad things about HDLC that I avoid it

[carmine wren]

aren't there ViewExtension?

[keen spoke]

I think viewextension just extends the render distance

If it does extend LOD as well I will like never play without it again lmfao

[torpid geode]

@carmine wren Hey i have a Bug to report. I use the "Brutal Company Minus" Mod which adds events that create rainy weather. With those Events the Rain on the Visor never stops not even inside the Facility. Idk if that Bug is fixable in your mod or the other one but wanted to report anyways

[carmine wren]

thanks for reporting.

it's fixed now. It'll be pushed with next patch soon.

[hallow dagger]

That's unrelated to visor.

[keen spoke]

Oh I know, I was just doing a goof

[carmine wren]

0.5.0
`

• Added an option to choose between post processing visor and physical visor (Default to physical).
• Added an option to stretch visor.
• Physical visor now gets affected by game's Depth Of Field effect.
• Raindrop effect reacts accurately to mods that changes weather on the fly.
• Config updated.
• Minor bug fixes.
  `

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Woecust/Immersive_Visor/

[lime thistle]

What’s next on the planned features?

[carmine wren]

I want to swap crack effect textures next. Between snow and fogging, I'll do fogging first.

[solar lagoon]

@carmine wren When RimShow is disabled we still see this

[carmine wren]

Thanks for reporting, fix has been pushed.

[solar lagoon]

Setting RimShow to false doesn't improve the performance when PhysicalRim is enabled

but it does when PostPorcessing rim is

[carmine wren]

Does custom pass still works behind the scene even when the game object is disabled??

setting RimShow to false or using post processing rim should both do the same thing to custom pass visor object

[solar lagoon]

Everything is fine, I think I was just dumb

Yeah it does the same thing

sorry

[carmine wren]

it's okay. I'm just relieved I didn't create another problem

[solar lagoon]

@carmine wren
When dancing with TooManyEmotes, it makes the physical visor of other player moves

[carmine wren]

??

could you send me the picture. kinda hard to understand just with that

[solar lagoon]

yeah hold on

[carmine wren]

lol wth

it's supposed to track only local player

thanks for reporting

[carmine wren]

did you have rimShow option enabled?

[solar lagoon]

yeah

[sinful rune]

Im experiencing the same bug with too many emotes too.

[carmine wren]

does the visor comes back to the player when other person's emote is done?

[mild timber]

Same issue but it happens when I use the terminal. I have terminal desktop for context

[carmine wren]

thanks for reporting, I'll see what I can do

[sinful rune]

Yeah when they stop emoting everything is normal

[mild timber]

Np, happy I could help In some way 😄

[carmine wren]

desktop mod for some reason just copies the whole camera which resulting in visor getting copied with it

[pine obsidian]

same issue just happened to me lol

[cobalt aspen]

what mods changes weather on the fly??

[solar lagoon]

Looks like it wasn't your fault

[carmine wren]

oh

I just saw that from TooManyEmotes thread just now and asked about it

[carmine wren]

I believ hull breaker or brutal company and the like

[hallow dagger]

Beta version of WeatherTweaks.

[white kraken]

dont reccomend the beta rn, its caused saving errors on my saves

removing it fixed the error

[iron herald]

It's fine for me

[white kraken]

may be a conflict but idk, maybe it was loadstone which I also removed

[iron herald]

Was probs loadstone

[white kraken]

Ill try it again but after I uninstalled weather tweaks beta it did get updates so the issue may have been fixed

still seemed to happen without loadstone

[chilly moth]

new visor is even better then vanilla

[strong chasm]

what mod lets you orbit like this?

[pearl rain]

I think this one SpaceShipDoor

[strong chasm]

oo thank you

[chilly moth]

and https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/Celestial_Tint/

[carmine wren]

I might want to take a bit of break from adding things.
well, not actually a break since I'll be working on another mod.
I kind of want to spend time modding doing more environment works since that's my passion.
Just thought since Audio Knight's tutorial came out, it'd be a good time to try and make a custom moon.

I'll be patching bugs though so report me if you find any. It won't be long

[solar lagoon]

Take your break, what's important is that you enjoy what you're doing.

[quiet light]

I will take this opportunity to thank you for your work on this wonderfully immersive mod. The new raindrops look great, and I look forward to seeing the vanilla visor model return for maximum immersion

[iron herald]

I always disable that visor cus I hate how it blocks the screen

😅

I like the immersive effects, but not the top and bottom of the screen being blocked off

[carmine wren]

just had and idea with this, how about a transparent mesh?

[iron herald]

That could be pretty cool

[cunning citrus]

Is there a way to disable the depth of field effect on the visor completely? the problem is that the depth of field effect gets applied in the distance when increasing the camera's view distance

[carmine wren]

it's possible.

since it's just post processing effect, you can just disable it from game's main volume and that'd be it.

[cunning citrus]

oh ok thank you!

will it cause incompatibilities with this mod?

[carmine wren]

doubt it. but I guess some visor rim not getting blurred anymore might bother some people.
but then that goes to the same without this mod,

[cunning citrus]

thats fair. if it is a problem that bothers people, the visor can probably be replaced with a texture on the camera?

[carmine wren]

using post processing rim option currently does that. except that it won't react to lights anymore.

I might be able to just blur the view using rim mask I'm using right now to hide effects behind rims

then it would still look fine even with dof disabled

[cunning citrus]

would you be willing to try that? its fine if you dont want to

it would probably improve performance, because i think the HDRP dof is pretty heavy

[carmine wren]

oh yeah, sure can.

[stuck barn]

Curious since im not sure its been asked, is there still some thought on keeping the player perspective in helmet view a little longer before going into spectate mode

[carmine wren]

I thought it was already done by other mod?

That's why I took that out of my plan

[stuck barn]

oh fr?? I hadn't tried searching for it yet lmao

or can't find what it'd be named. longer spectate, first person death

[carmine wren]

I was told by someone else so don't know the name either

There was a mention someone using that with my mod I believe

[stuck barn]

seeing if I can look around rn with the search function

no luck, if anyone knows feel free to ping pls

[green lava]

@pine prism

we still cant find this mod

[stuck barn]

shit what'd be really cool is when you die obviously you stay in first person for longer but the features of the mod is your UI disappears while the screen fades black and then the cool animation for the text life support offline pops up

[hallow dagger]

That was OpenBodyCams, but it's only for cameras.

[keen spoke]

i don't think the pixelize options are working

At least not for me

gonna try again

[carmine wren]

It's not for optimization. It's just a visual effect.

[keen spoke]

I know— the effect didn’t change

Seemingly no difference between 0 and 10000

Auto toggle seemingly didn’t work either

[carmine wren]

what values were you testing? lower value makes it gets pixelated more

[keen spoke]

Ohhhhhhhh

I thought it was higher

So what’s the difference between the default (0) and recommended (512)?

[carmine wren]

the values works like resolution

[keen spoke]

or was it supposed to say -512

[carmine wren]

it it's set to 512, effects rendering resolution becomes (scrWidth / scrHeight) * 512 : 512

[keen spoke]

So what’s 0?

[carmine wren]

since can't really to 0 resolution so it just turns off the effect

[keen spoke]

So 0 is just the default resolution (whatever it is, I have no clue lol) and 512 is recommended for vanilla

and I assume auto is mainly for those who raise their resolution with something like HDLethalCompany?

[carmine wren]

should change auto to pixelelate off in next update.

auto sets value to fit the screen resolution of users

same as setting it to 0, not sure why I named it auto really

[keen spoke]

So 0 is no extra pixelization (for better quality) and 512 with extra pixelization (for vanilla feel)

[carmine wren]

yes

[keen spoke]

Gotcha

Also are the DOF changes on with both mesh and post-processing? Or only mesh

[carmine wren]

completely turning off DOF and only blurring the mesh

[keen spoke]

Like as in you’re doing that in the next update?

[carmine wren]

yes

[keen spoke]

Ah rad

Also both the mesh and post processing option default to on

From what I can tell, there doesn’t seem to be a point to have both on

[carmine wren]

they are?

probably should fix that, thanks

[keen spoke]

no problem haha

what are the pros and cons of each one, anyway?

[carmine wren]

visual and performance

[keen spoke]

I assume mesh has worse performance but interacts with light?

[carmine wren]

yes

[keen spoke]

Gotcha

[keen spoke]

Are you going to keep the default as off in the next update?

[carmine wren]

it's already that by default

since deafult pixelate values are 0

[keen spoke]

Yeah I meant like are you keeping it that way

[carmine wren]

yes

you won't have to change config tho

mod's going to take care of that

[keen spoke]

Oh I was just curious

So when pixelate is off, what resolution do they render at?

[carmine wren]

your screen

[keen spoke]

Ahh so that’s why I didn’t notice the difference

I play the ultrawide equivalent of Lethal’s default

[keen spoke]

So in the current version is dof on for both?

[carmine wren]

just dof

[keen spoke]

?

[carmine wren]

the current visor rim getting blurred is because of DOF effect

ah

nvm

it's on always

[keen spoke]

Gotcha

Was wondering for ViewExtension reasons, as seemingly there’s a conflict (you and sf Desat talked about it a day or two ago)

[carmine wren]

that was because game's DOF effect also blurs everything far away, which doesn't work well with VE.
But then if VE turns DOF off, it might leave visor rim in an ugly state with no blurring. That was the reason.

[keen spoke]

Ahhh

ig for the meantime (updating a private modpack and both mods are being added lol) I’ll add both and if the update isn’t out by the time I release it I can just do a patch or something

Immersive Visor makes things even on ultrawide now (the bottom corners are uneven in vanilla and older versions of the mod), so I don’t think I’ll be playing without it anymore ahaha

I noticed it recently and it’s been driving me— my OCD thanks you

[cyan trench]

Hello. I do not even know what is causing this, cleared my plugins and backed them up, but when I play company with the visor it's just, black? Like I can still select things as you can hear but literally nothing shows when I have the plugin installed, tried previous versions, updated my bepin, all of the stuff and still just, black. Please send help. Fresh install of visor too so I don't know what to do

Black with my mods, black without my mods, only goes away when deleting visor. And to be honest I LOVED visor, used it back with the first version, decided to update it to the newest one.

Deleted reshade from lethal to see if thats the problem, nope.

[twin grail]

Hello, use r2modman launcher for downloading and installing mods

[cyan trench]

I see.

Thank you.

[carmine wren]

probably with outdated asset bundle

[cyan trench]

And I assume just, use r2 and it will be fixed?

[carmine wren]

using r2 would solve it, since you only putting .dll was the problem. Try putting asset bundle too and see if the issue persist

this one

[cyan trench]

where would i put the asset bundle, do i just drop it into the directory orr?

[carmine wren]

same as dll

[cyan trench]

Alright, thank you mister visor!

And it works. Cool.

Off to sleep I go.

[pine prism]

@carmine wren btw. i cannot find the death cam view. i spent an entire day searching for it, it seems to be removed. it was around during v45 so maybe its already depreciated.

[hidden palm]

so not really sure why, but this mod seems to make the LethalCasino lighting go really wonky. First screenshot is with this mod, second screenshot is vanilla visor

switching between mesh and postprocessing visor doesn't seem to make a difference, which is the only setting I thought might

[hidden palm]

Figured it out, it's HDLethalCompany but I can't find any alternative for disabling post-processing that actually works

[graceful finch]

What about when you take out the reactor to the facility your screen starts to react to the radiation

[hallow dagger]

LethalRadiation does something like that.

[cloud igloo]

Am I the only one who actually liked it more when the cracks were in the middle of the visor? Felt more realistic and gave more reason to try and avoid taking damage. I obviously understand why most people wouldn't want that but I don't know. Wish there was a config option to get that back again.

[carmine wren]

That's planned. It changed because I had to figure out a way to work with wider screens + I lost the source file. I'll bring it back at some point.

[cloud igloo]

Ah! I see. Understandable. I look forward to that, then. Thank you.

[unreal radish]

Bro copied my pfp

[chilly moth]

lol

[thorn pelican]

I know you're not actively working on this at the moment, but I figured I would let you know that using the mesh visor rim stops the postprocessing shader from the Whimsical Weather mod (https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Bobbie/WhimsicalWeather/) from applying

The Whimsical shader works when using the postprocessing rim, though

[carmine wren]

which version are you playing on?

[thorn pelican]

V49, and latest version of Immersive Visor

[chilly moth]

would it be possible to add monster blood on the visor when you hit them?

[carmine wren]

was just trying something along those line the other day but couldn't meet satifactory

[chilly moth]

ah

[hybrid tree]

cant return to orbit with this mod installed. i get an error and the ship basically hangs in limbo "Waiting to land"

dont have a log unfortunately

[jovial radish]

Probably not this mod

[hybrid tree]

it was but im not sure why

considering i dont think the mod has updated in a while

[carmine wren]

Thanks for reporting, I'll look into it. Did you screenshot the error? what did it say?

[hybrid tree]

uuh it was something about the time of day?

i honestly dont think your mod was the root of the issue, but whatever it was made immersive visor break

[white kraken]

do you have weather tweaks?

[hybrid tree]

no, why? does that conflict?

[white kraken]

Nah its just one of the mods that has caused that same bug for me

wanted to check

[hybrid tree]

oh gotcha

[round quest]

i was wondering, is the visor crack effect going to be reverted to its old look still?

[cloud igloo]

@round quest Author said this about that when I asked.

[round quest]

yeah, its just that it was a while ago so i was worried

[cloud igloo]

Ah! I see.

[prisma gale]

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[iron herald]

@carmine wren if you ever get around to updating and supporting this mod again, I disabled it after getting this error from it, I also noticed a couple other issues after disabling the mod. 1 is that it causes some input delay and the other is that there is a compatibility issue with TooManyEmotes, if the mod is enabled emoting in 3rd person with TME causes lag that I believed was a TME issue, but after disabling Immersive Visor it no longer has that lag problem 😦 I hope you can get around to optimizing the mod at some point and fixing these issues ^^

[solar lagoon]

I always thought lag while emoting was normal

[iron herald]

I did too lol

[solar lagoon]

What kind of input lag do you have? I've never experienced this

[iron herald]

It's mostly if you move the camera around really fast, in vanilla it's very smooth while immersive visor causes it to lag a little

but sometimes just depending on your dpi setting and turning you can notice it as well

[solar lagoon]

Ah, I usually play with low sensitivity on my games so that's probably why I didn't have that issue

[iron herald]

It's weird I even noticed this cus I have a high end system but I did notice it

Yeah probably

[iron herald]

I fixed the lag issues, it's the RainDrop setting, setting it to false fixes it, I wanted to readd Immersive Visor cus the other mod was messing with fog values and stuff

[bronze horizon]

aw man, without the raindrop settings, it's like, not even work having almost

[iron herald]

Ye the mod just needs some love cus it hasn't been updated in a while

[bronze horizon]

yeah

[white kraken]

does the rain setting cause lag even when its not raining?

[keen spoke]

I swear you’re like the master of discovering minor lag issues

It’s helpful but also simultaneously like “whyyyyy” bc then I need to disable stuff

[iron herald]

Wouldn't call it minor if it's very noticeable

lol

[keen spoke]

I’ve never noticed it tbh, but maybe I’m just crazy

[shrewd jungle]

I will suffer through it

Raindrops too good

[iron herald]

You can probably disable the specular and shadows settings to help a little, it's not the rain drops itself that causes the performance hit it's the fact that when the setting is enabled the rain map is always computing even when no rain is on the visor

[iron herald]

Yes, cus the rain map is always computing

It's likely causing hudmanager spikes of some sort

I'm sure @twin grail could confirm or deny if it does that DiFFoZ is a pro at this stuff

[white kraken]

oooo, may need to see how well this fixes my performance issues

[twin grail]

Rain solver is actually disabled when no rain above you

but still it needs to calculate if it's raining above you to toggle a solver

[iron herald]

Ahhh so it's the fact it's always calculating that does it

[carmine wren]

Rain check is something the same is the default game does for checking if the rain sound should get muffled. So it shouldn't cost that much. I should check.

[iron herald]

Hope you manage to figure it out and can get an optimization patch out c;

[bronze horizon]

an optimization patch would be awesome

[sharp drift]

@carmine wren I know there's other things being focused on like fog and snow, but would you be open to making additional damaged effect and stamina bar alternative later down the line?
Damaged Effect - When damaged the top left UI, chat, and inventory will flicker. This effect becomes significant and persistent the more damaged your visor is.
Stamina Bar Alternative - The inside of the helmet emits an orange light that slowly fades the lower on stamina you are.

[carmine wren]

I'm sort of having trouble directing my attention to this mod atm.
Even thinking about just putting the whole project on GitHub as my life got kinda busy.

those things were considered but I doubt I can make promises anymore tbh. I need to focus on the portfolio for college

I'm sorry for neglecting the mod for too long again

[sharp drift]

That's okie ^.^ you do you. Jus thought I'd put the idea out there incase this mod was still being actively worked on. I knew from before you had this on pause for other reasons.

[next laurel]

Hello!

There's an Incompatibility issue with Diversity and this mod.
When you're grabbed by his new monster, the Walker, having this mod installed makes it Impossible to see inside its dimension

It's tested with only this mod, Diversity and Imperium for fast testing

[spiral aurora]

I have both installed and never had this issue

[white kraken]

Could be imperium

It can fuck with stuff

[hallow dagger]

"new monster, the Walker" 😁

[fluid shell]

what

range: 0.0 to 0.2
default: 1

[loud sable]

I'd just ignore that part 😭

[golden star]

Not sure how you'd go about fixing this, but Immersive Visor doesn't detect the inside of the company vehicle as an area where the raindrop effect stops.

[iron herald]

Immersive Visor also breaks if you get teleported to The Walker's room too apparently

and you get a black screen

[high ginkgo]

so whenever people join my lobby my visor just disappears 😦
any idea how to fix this?

[bronze horizon]

same issue here, im trying to look into it to find out the issue

[iron herald]

It's not this mod

I'm looking into what it might be, do you use BetterSpectate by chance?

[bronze horizon]

nope

[iron herald]

Here

Lmk if we share any mods

I'm wondering if it might be EnhancedSpectator actually

it's not been updated in a long time

[bronze horizon]

i dont have enhanced spectator

could it be code rebirth maybe?

idk im just spitballin common mods we have

[iron herald]

I was thinking it might be CodeRebirth tbh

[bronze horizon]

i also have shipwindows and celestial tint

[iron herald]

Well Ship Windows has updated recently

[bronze horizon]

could be voxx's lethalelements

[iron herald]

Not CodeRebirth

I'm doing some lan testing

[bronze horizon]

could it somehow be companycruiserfix?\

[iron herald]

Doubtful but I can check

Gonna test Celestial Tint and Ship Windows

[bronze horizon]

also, while we are talking about mods in our packs, do you have aany General Improvements replacement mods?

[iron herald]

Not really, why are you wanting to remove GI?

[bronze horizon]

i just find that it gives a performance hit to my game

[iron herald]

Speaking of

what if the culprit is GeneralImprovements?

[bronze horizon]

not much but also makes the bootup time slower

[bronze horizon]

i dont currentlyhave that in my pack so it cant be that

if you want to check my pack, i can send a link to it

[iron herald]

Well so far it's none of the mods listed

[bronze horizon]

could it be kidnapper fox settings?

scopophobia is also a possibility

[iron herald]

Maybe SpectateEnemies?

[bronze horizon]

could you maybe send a mod list of your pack too

[iron herald]

It seems more likely for it to be a mod that touches spectating

[bronze horizon]

dont have that

[iron herald]

Hm

Well I reprod it earlier without any mods that touch the visor

Are you using LethalPerformance? Cus I have a theory

[bronze horizon]

yup

[iron herald]

Okay did you set the unsafe rendering setting to true?

[bronze horizon]

uuhhh lemme check

nope

[iron herald]

Well it's impossible for me to test if it's LethalPerformance cus LethalPerformance still crashes Lan

[bronze horizon]

oh rip lmao

could it be viewextension?

[iron herald]

I have that disabled

So no

[bronze horizon]

hmm idk

[iron herald]

However I was considering maybe OpenBodyCams?

[bronze horizon]

i dont have that

[iron herald]

What settings do you have configured in Celestial Tint, and do you use LethalPipeRemoval as well maybe?

[bronze horizon]

i dont use lethalpiperemoval

[iron herald]

Well it's none of the mods you've mentioned

[jaunty tusk]

My mod only applies a filter, if you see a heatstroke effect and the visor is gone then it might be me, otherwise definitely no

[iron herald]

Yeah no the issue is the visor disappearing the second another player joins

[jaunty tusk]

Ah ok, it's not me then

[iron herald]

Would be nice if you'd post your mod list floof

Actually

@bronze horizon Are you using TooManyEmotes?

I know TME caused some bugs with the Visor in the past I just wonder

Okay it's not that

[bronze horizon]

nope

[bronze horizon]

ah shit i forgor

[iron herald]

Wouldn't be surprised if it's LobbyControl or some other mod that makes no fucking sense, it's a mod that's affecting rpc's when someone else is joining the lobby

It's impossible for me to really test when I don't have a mod list to see what we have in common, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack

Cus my mod pack is pretty large

lol

[iron herald]

Do you use LCUltrawide?

That mod hasn't been updated in 8 months I just realized

I wouldn't be surprised if it's that mod

[iron herald]

Treys Health text may also be responsible

Any outdated mod that's touching the ui

Yeah I'm out of ideas

I've tested more things I thought it could be and it's none of those

[bronze horizon]

ddont haave thaat one

[iron herald]

Please

Post

your

list

[bronze horizon]

shit i keep forgeting omg

wait how do i get my mod list ffrom gale?

[bronze horizon]

ok i dont know how to get the list from gale

[iron herald]

Profile

Copy Dependency Strings

[bronze horizon]

there we go

[bronze horizon]

sorry for taking so long i genuinely kept getting distracted

[iron herald]

Hmmmm okay I see some common ones I'm gonna check with a test profile

Okay so

It's either

ModelReplacementAPI

Or one of the fix mods

I reprod it

@twin grail Gonna trace down this pesky mod lol

[iron herald]

ModelReplacementAPI

Is the culprit

@ruby solar Can you look into fixing this?

[iron herald]

Cus it's not just breaking the visor, it breaks a lot of the post processing effects as a whole

This was on stream today with no visor mod and after the visor broke, it removes a ton of the post processing effects that should be there

In comparison, visor disabled in Immersive Visor, all the post processing effects remain in tact

[iron herald]

It's ModelReplacementAPI doing it

[high ginkgo]

aww no, that's a shame. so it's already two problems I have now with this mod and I think I read that it won't get updated any time soon (if I remember correctly)

[iron herald]

It's not an issue with Immersive Visor at all

[high ginkgo]

no I mean ModelReplacement

[iron herald]

I had no visor mods installed when ModelReplacementAPI broke the Visor

Ahhhh

[high ginkgo]

yeah but thank you for testing so much

[iron herald]

Yeah Bunya will likely update it if a pr is pushed

[iron herald]

What was the other issue you had with it?

[high ginkgo]

viewmodels, shovel/flashlight/2-handed items are not in the right place in my fov and it's hard hitting enemies like that sadly

also when I drop items they get teleported somewhere else on the map

I read in ModelReplacementAPI's description that it could be an issue from it

[iron herald]

Oh weird

[iron herald]

It's MIT Licensed so someone can fork it and upload a fixed build btw

I asked TestAccount to look into it, he likes fixing mods lol

[high ginkgo]

thank you so much for your efforts!

[iron herald]

Lol my group kinda needs ModelReplacementAPI

@fervent narwhal needs to be PepsiMan

[high ginkgo]

I need it too T.T

[bronze horizon]

omg of all mods it's that one?

[iron herald]

Yep

[bronze horizon]

damn that sucks

[iron herald]

Just gotta hope TestAccount comes to save the day

[bronze horizon]

hopefully

[iron herald]

This should only really happen if you're using Better Monitors

[chilly moth]

i noticed the visor doesn't like to repair if you land on gordion

if your not on day 0

[iron herald]

@carmine wren dunno if you're around but any chance we could get an update for this mod at some point? It could likely use a recomp on V62 at some point

[next laurel]

I loved this mod :[

Too bad it was deprecated due to bugs found in v64

[white kraken]

it works but you gotta disable the cracked visor and rain effects

but thats if you only want the new rim

which is really all I used from it

[graceful sleet]

Wait the Cracks and Rain are messed up?

That's absolutely devastating if so. Been using this Since it was released :(

[iron herald]

Yeah the visor cracking has a chance to half shadow realm you when you die and force you to get stuck hearing the visor cracking constantly

If @carmine wren ever returns from Hiatus I hope to see the mod updated again, it's just a shame it's not open sourced with a license so noone can fork it

[keen spoke]

IT’S BROKEN?!

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[iron herald]

Yeah

[obsidian forge]

Really unfortunate that this broke, was a great mod

[chilly moth]

no it can't be broken..NO...

[fluid surge]

this was a great mod with lots of potiential. i hope somebody here can take the mantle on it

[white kraken]

if someone would theyd have to remake it

because the mod was never mode open source

[silk sand]

this truly was one of the mods of all time, sad to see it broken

[bronze horizon]

NOOOO MY FAVORITE MOD IS BROKEN

this is a crime

I never thought this day would come

luckily I'm in college so I don't even have time to play anyways

[indigo coyote]

rip

[scarlet mural]

its working perfectly for me

[jovial snow]

Same, ion see an issue

[white kraken]

when taking damage sometimes the glass breaking sound loops infinity

[white kraken]

when taking damage sometimes the glass breaking sound loops infinity

its like a 50/50 chance

[scarlet mural]

That's odd, I have yet to encountered that, thanks for the heads up though!

[solar lagoon]

Like I said to lunxara, the 50/50 chance thing doesn't really make sense

Bugs don't happen for random reasons

They concluded yesterday that it was probably getting killed by the Barber that breaks it

And I also didn't have any issues with this mod yet

[white kraken]

Wait, was it no issues even when killed by barber?

when you had it I mean

[solar lagoon]

Oh I'm saying that they concluded that it's probably just the barber that's breaking it, I never got killed by a barber myself so idk

[silk sand]

Yea I’m in the same boat. Never been killed by barber and never had the bug

[white kraken]

ill test it when I get home

[crimson swan]

take me in to the boat too because i've never had any problem with this mod, the raindrop and glass breaking are working fine

but i've never been killed by the barber so... i'll just wait and see if that's true

[modern trellis]

I got killed by the barber several times using this mod as well and nothing happened

Me and my friends were killed several times in the last game session and none of us got this bug.

maybe it's getting in conflict in certain maps?

[solar lagoon]

Maybe the real bug was the friends we've made along the way

[white kraken]

I dont think id be a map issue

prob another mod conflict

maybe barber fixes

[modern trellis]

hmm makes sense

[jovial snow]

Odd

I never see that

[white kraken]

Apparently ive been informed it only happens with barbers, tho it seens inconisitant

[jovial snow]

Very strange

[ashen karma]

has anyone like, tested the issue by spawning a barber and dying to it?

[jovial snow]

I was gonna do that but it’ll be like an hour before I can

[keen spoke]

As far as we’re aware the other features should be fully functional, right?

[next laurel]

@ashen karma

[ashen karma]

yeah I would take it as rumor until someone can consistently cause the issue

[modern trellis]

I usually record every single playthrough we have, I counted around 10 kills (yeah, we died a lot), nothing happened.

gotta wait for Koda so they can try it out I guess

[ashen karma]

I more-so meant loading up a profile with just the mod and some dev tools to consistently spawn the barber and die to it lol

[white kraken]

yeah

[ashen karma]

tested a little with this code (with barber fixes disabled and then enabled) unable to reproduce any issues from dying to the barber 0191e7e5-a475-e191-2ce1-5cf8c3ef869c

might be worth seeing if it's a client-specific issue with a second instance but I'll leave that to someone else

[next laurel]

@iron herald do you know how to reproduce this issue?

the break sound spam?

[iron herald]

Dying to certain enemies like the barber or hachi man on Seichi should do it

[pure jackal]

i've noticed rhat getting crushed by code rebirth meteors also causes it

[elfin locust]

I've tried reproducing the issue but nothing goes wrong when dying to barbers

[iron herald]

I was the one that said the barber should cause it cus I thought the hachi man death uses the same code

But I would guess it's referencing code to a different type of vanilla enemy or hazard

[ashen karma]

yeah my point was mostly that people gotta be a bit more careful saying things like this without mentioning it hasn't been confirmed the issue. At least, it helps having a clear issue with reproducible steps to actually fix it yknow?

[tight musk]

same happened to me when i had this mod installed, only happened once to me

[vagrant oak]

is there a diffrent immersive visor i i should download or just the depract one

[crimson swan]

the deprecated one still works... mostly

There are some mods that may cause incompatibilities

but if you don't have many mods, it should work fine

[weak barn]

i love this mod

[true ingot]

the cracks should mend when you heal

[autumn venture]

why they hating on bro 😭

[true ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaugh-gif-26144251

tf i do

[crimson swan]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-hitting-markiplier-gif-23574136

Honestly, I just didn't agree with the idea that healing from damage causes a glass to "un-crack". But didn't feel like elaborating so just left an 👎

[true ingot]

well it's unrealistic to heal damage that fast anyway

[torn jolt]

What happened?

[eternal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-cigarette-moment-gif-19565514

[keen spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/nature-vegeta-rain-serious-dragon-ball-z-gif-13693133

[torn jolt]

what mods are there that are incompatible with this?

[torpid cliff]

I wonder if the dev of chameleon could implement some of this stuff
They added like a visor effect thing when near the steam vent things

[torpid cliff]

Suika

[charred pelican]

She could but it doesn’t feel like it belongs in chameleon

Either way I hope this mod gets remade at some point. It was super nice for immersion.

[torn jolt]

Chameleon mod?

[torpid cliff]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ButteryStancakes/Chameleon/

Lots of nice aesthetic changes

Similar vein to this mod imo, just beyond the scope of just the visor itself and instead plenty of other immersive things

[torn jolt]

sounds really nice

[sour pivot]

Haven't played in forever and noticed this mod is deprecated 😦

[blazing thicket]

still works fine with no issues so far

[sour pivot]

True, but is still sad

[charred pelican]

It’s not being maintained anymore unfortunately. Massive shame it’s a great mod.

The one thing that doesn’t work in the mod is the visor cracking. The rain drops and blood works still

[hollow swan]

The visor cracking works for me 🤔