[BETA] Immersive Visor

[green lava]

very minor and a lot of people remove the visor

[carmine wren]

hopefully in 3 days since I know what to do now.

[hallow dagger]

Careful with giving ETAs.

[carmine wren]

I really should've yeah

at least I won't get distracted playing games for a while now that I beat it.
And about the visor rim bug, I know I can't fix that in 3 days so I'm just going to ignore that for now

[keen spoke]

For a second I thought that was you saying you beat Flandre in EoSD

And I was gonna say you're a freaking madlad

[quiet light]

Well, regardless of when the next update is, I really look forward to it

[trim patio]

this looks hella fucking nice

im so impatient for the next update

[lime thistle]

I thought this mod was abandoned since it had been so long but glad to see you’re working on it

[hallow dagger]

It worked all this time either way.

[lime thistle]

yes but it only has 1 feature

[hallow dagger]

Cleaner visor is another.

[little beacon]

glad to see this getting the updates!!

this is still one of my fav mods

[carmine wren]

I tried adding a bit of improvised shading on raindrops, but it might be too distracting to some

[oblique spoke]

Personally, I think this is much better. But thats my own opinion only. Nice work tho!

[carmine wren]

I see, this should be an option. thanks!

[lime thistle]

I prefer the old version. Something about the highlights and shadow makes this feel off to me

Ah it will be an option? Great

[carmine wren]

I think I now learned why every screen raindrop effects in games ever made never had shadings on them.

[trim patio]

thats very nice! when you look up the raindrops dont glide across your screen

thats a hella nice detail

[green lava]

i agree

[hallow dagger]

Fantastic as usual, but these oddly look like they're on the inside of the visor instead of the outside.

But maybe I'm wrong and that's how they're supposed to look like when being behind the glass.

[desert tinsel]

Yeah I noticed that too but didn't know how to word it

[hallow dagger]

Maybe "inverting" their depth effect, or whatever it is, would produce better result?

[carmine wren]

I tried inverting the normal.
changes I made during the video in order are:
inverted
inverted + shadow
inverted + specular
current + specular
inverted + specular
inverted
current

[lime thistle]

that looks a lot better imo

[hallow dagger]

I think the shadow is the main culprit of them looking like they are on the inside of the glass.

[lime thistle]

idk I feel like even in real life its hard to tell

I think its fine

hmm on second thought I can tell this one is from the inside because the reflection is upside down in each raindrop

interesting

nevermind that's the case whichever angle you see it from

[hallow dagger]

That video is a bit hard to follow, but I don't blame you. Think getting rid of shadow should be enough.
However if you want more feedback, then creating screenshots of a static pattern with each variant you're considering would be easier to "digest". If that is possible or not too time consuming of course.

[lime thistle]

on a side note, a suggestion - subtle condensation on the visor when on colder moons

[valid cave]

Looks great!
Can't wait to see this in the game!

I think the raindrops are too sharp.
You usually don't focus on something that close to you, and you can see that helmet edges are blurry

[clear moss]

as someone who has seen a lot of first person graphic details,
this is perfect

this is nice too

[vagrant oak]

reminds me of fallout 4 lol

[chilly moth]

cool feature would be going underwater and back all the water flows off the visor when resurfacing

[carmine wren]

won't take much to implement but kinda busy moving crack effect to post processing effect rn.

will definetely do at some point

[chilly moth]

ok

[round quest]

when is the blood splatter effect planned?

[vagrant oak]

Some Point

https://tenor.com/view/gleemies-gleemboss-gif-23542767

[lime thistle]

How is progress

[carmine wren]

0.3.0

• Added raindrop effecf
• Added visor rim effect. This disables the mesh that surrounds the camera and replace it with post processing effect.
• Changed crack effect pattern.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Woecust/Immersive_Visor/

I don't know why does the link says 0.2.1

internally it's just another mod so bug reports are welcomed.

thunderstore's taking a bit of time updating I guess

[twin grail]

may take a while to get updating the mod

[carmine wren]

Oh also texture for crack effect changed so it won't blind the center part with wider resolutions.

real reason it changed is because I lost the source files and had to make everything again but, it's like that now.

[lime thistle]

woop woop

[golden sage]

I read this as womp womp and it was really funny to me tbh

[hallow dagger]

oh no

[carmine wren]

oh yeah that

disable visor rim

I worried that would happen

@hallow dagger This might fix that issue. If you replace the mod's dll file with this one

[lime thistle]

er

rain does not seem to be wokring

[carmine wren]

do you have any weather mods? or have raindrop effect option turned off in the config?

[lime thistle]

I do have a weather mod. Disabling it now

[hallow dagger]

Do these look a bit wide too?

[lime thistle]

WeatherTweaks

[twin grail]

with WeatherTweaks, works fine!

[hallow dagger]

Sure, give me a bit.

[lime thistle]

oh

[hallow dagger]

WeatherTweaks doesn't change weather visuals, so no wonder.

[carmine wren]

testing different resolutions only inside unity wasn't enough appearently

[hallow dagger]

didn't fix it

[lime thistle]

hmm still not showing the raindrops

I'll try with immersive visor by itself

[carmine wren]

which resolution are you playing at?

[hallow dagger]

No need to. It works. Two screenshots above are the evidence.

Do you have any other mods that affect visor?

[hallow dagger]

3440x1440

[lime thistle]

I am trying it by itself to see if its my modpack bruh

[hallow dagger]

It is.

[lime thistle]

I am making sure

[chilly moth]

i was also wondering if it was possible to repair the visor if you get respawned mid game with like lategame upgrades intern command

[little beacon]

Ohhh omgg this mod finally has an update!! 👀👀

[carmine wren]

respawning mid-game was something I've never considered. I'll take note of it.

things works fine in unity with 3440x1440

maybe it's my mod code

[hallow dagger]

wait, let me check something

[twin grail]

just got drowned and after respawn I get the default visor, hmm

[hallow dagger]

nevermind, looks wrong without lcuw even

[carmine wren]

did you respawn mid game?

[twin grail]

nope yes i did respawn in mid game

[carmine wren]

do you know how to use UnityExplore by any chance?

[hallow dagger]

No.

the black bars at the edges is how LC looks by default on ultrawide btw, not the mod

[lime thistle]

Crack works but not raindrops

Interesting

[carmine wren]

how are the cracks? is it the same one as the one before?

[chilly moth]

also the mask rim is supposed to be lit up by lights with this mod its pitch black

[carmine wren]

or this?

[hallow dagger]

Yes, because it's a shader. Not a model.

[lime thistle]

new

[lime thistle]

agreed. tis a good suggestion

[hallow dagger]

It's not that easy.

[carmine wren]

could you share the log output?

[lime thistle]

ok I figured it out. it doesnt generate the particles on stormy weather which has rain sometimes

[carmine wren]

it works in other weathers?

[lime thistle]

yeah I'm in rainy weather atm

working

[lime thistle]

this might be a weather tweaks thing I dont remember

stormy weather has rain right?

[hallow dagger]

Works for me. 🤷

You said you were testing it on its own.

[lime thistle]

my bad, this test was done on my modpack

I'm testing it with just weathertweaks and immersive visor now

[hallow dagger]

I will work with WT. It does not change weather visuals.

Just generation parameters.

[carmine wren]

or maybe something was above you?

[hallow dagger]

stormy with WT

works as expected

[lime thistle]

no I walk all around

must be something else in the modpack

interesting that it only breaksthe rain effect

[hallow dagger]

hdlethalcompany or some visor mod

maybe

[lime thistle]

this might take a while

[carmine wren]

@hallow dagger this one just logs the values when setting resFix value I use for the rim effect. It would help me locating the issue

[hallow dagger]

[Error  :ImmersiveVisorLogSource] 3440
[Error  :ImmersiveVisorLogSource] 1440```

This?

[carmine wren]

oh yeah those

values are correct

[lime thistle]

reset visor on death so it doesnt appear during spectating

[carmine wren]

cracks?

[hallow dagger]

Yeah, cracks.

[lime thistle]

yes, well I can't test rain

[hallow dagger]

Cracks look correct btw. Don't seem to be widened like raindrops.

[carmine wren]

I should do what I did with cracks to rain then

[twin grail]

Looks like LethalEmotesAPI returns the default visor when switching 3rd->1st person

[hallow dagger]

You can use -screen-width <width> -screen-height <height> command line option to test different resolutions btw. @carmine wren

[carmine wren]

Thanks for letting me know where to look into!

[carmine wren]

Oh didn't know that thanks. Where should I put them?

[hallow dagger]

Game's properties on Steam.

Called Launch Options.

[twin grail]

or in launcher if you use it

[carmine wren]

I think modman has launch options too

[hallow dagger]

Either should work.

[carmine wren]

do you have hdlethalcompany?

[hallow dagger]

No.

[carmine wren]

trying to replicate

thanks

[hallow dagger]

I use LCUltrawide, but I tested without it here ☝️

[carmine wren]

yeah got the bug now I should test

[chilly moth]

whoa what moon does that!

[twin grail]

you mean mod?

[chilly moth]

yea

[twin grail]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/Celestial_Tint/ with https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Wolf11221/SpaceShipDoor/

[carmine wren]

I originally added resfix because I though things would cause problem when played on different res

but it looks like adding that was a problem to begin with

but still needs some testing

@hallow dagger could you help me testing this one

and if my guess is right, all the people with wider monitor has that bug rn

caused by the very thing that I made to prevent just that

[hallow dagger]

It still doesn't look exactly right when compared to 16:9 screenshots.

A bit widened.

Stretched actually.

[carmine wren]

It's normal but I guess I should probably change that too

[lime thistle]

fixable?

[carmine wren]

that's a known bug.

originally thought not really fixable unless I do some wild things but now I have some ideas

[lime thistle]

cool

[chilly moth]

this bug proves the sun is fake!!! its just our visors!!!

[carmine wren]

Testing with leathalemoteapi and this small screen draws visor lol

[harsh badge]

I get a black screen at startup... Perhaps the config is old...

I'll check it again now

[harsh badge]

018e3f19-5247-3da3-e6f4-0873eb8fefe2

What could be the conflict?

[carmine wren]

might be my asset bundle name

not might it is

@harsh badge Could you check if this works?

[harsh badge]

I'll check now

[carmine wren]

I didn't know unity has problems loading assetbundles with same names, I should've known better.

[lime thistle]

I was getting raindrop effects inside the ship as I was landing for a second

weird

[carmine wren]

was that your second~ time landing?

[harsh badge]

I decided to install this mod for the first time, I was scared by the beta sign and the HD version

[lime thistle]

first time new save

[harsh badge]

And now I noticed that this mod is popular in many assemblies

But compatibility with other mods is a question

I have 211 mods (without unnecessary cosmetics and sounds)

[hallow dagger]

You're playing a game that is in beta.

Also, what HD version?

[harsh badge]

No HD version

[harsh badge]

Everything is fine, with this patch the screen disappearance has disappeared

And everything is visible

[hallow dagger]

without unnecessary cosmetics and sounds
LandMineFartReverb

[harsh badge]

Well this is necessary xD

I'm on the plan

most mods

Changing mechanics

Or adding monsters

[hallow dagger]

You don't need HideModList without LC_API btw.

[carmine wren]

that might be because game's default rain check (used to occlude rain ambience) goes through the ship for a second

[harsh badge]

But it works

I just thought he was spamming without it

[lime thistle]

Something weird is going on here. When I enable LC_Office in my modpack, the rain particles stop appearing on stormy weather. However, when I tested just immersive visor with LC_Office, it was working. I am confused

[harsh badge]

then I'll delete it

[hallow dagger]

Mod list notification is LC_API feature.

[harsh badge]

Damn it

I did not know

Then I'll get rid of him

[hallow dagger]

Not related to office. Worked with office for me without issues.

[harsh badge]

Everything is fine

Update :3 can be released

[chilly moth]

lol

[harsh badge]

Nice visual :0

[carmine wren]

Could you help me trying this one on your end and see if the issue persist?

[twin grail]

sure

[lime thistle]

well it has to do with something incompatible with LC_Office because when I enable it it stops

[harsh badge]

Is this how it should be? When you're healing

The split remains

Seems realistic

We're not changing our costumes.

[carmine wren]

Oh the mod didn't consider healing.

it takes total damage taken into account

that's probably why

[harsh badge]

I think it's better to leave it as is

Or in the future, someday add a config

So that the helmet can also be restored

[carmine wren]

it was brought up at some point but I forgot. I'll take note

[twin grail]

fixed!

[carmine wren]

good

I should push this for now and fix other bugs in the meantime

[chilly moth]

with the oxygen mod it makes it makes this perfect since if the helmet breaks you will die

[lime thistle]

man wtf. Went through the whole modpack, disabling every mod one by one until it was only Immersive Visor, LC_Office and its dependants. Doesnt work on this profile but on the other it does

something in the config it has to be

[carmine wren]

the modpack you originally used is the only one that cause the issue then?

[lime thistle]

I regenerated the LC_Office config and it worked, just confirming that now

confirmed. seems to be this setting

raindrops don't appear on stormy weather when that setting is off for whatever reason

[carmine wren]

I don't know what I can do about it or even if that's really the source of an issue but I'll take note of it.

strange things happens

[lime thistle]

I assume its because Office has its own post processing

[jovial radish]

does this still softlock you in space?

[lime thistle]

it uh, never did

[jovial radish]

did for me

[round quest]

yeah its not working for me either, the raindrop effect doesnt work with any other mods that use post processing like insanity remastered

😔

[elfin locust]

I think that may just be an inherent limitation with post-processing, since I remember Chaos struggling with implementing his own post-processing for Diversity.

Also i just tested on my modpack that has mods like lc office and diversity on it and all the effects including the raindrops work just fine. Love the rain overlay so much!

[round quest]

so it is most likely insanity remastered fork then

[elfin locust]

The original insanity remastered was riddled with problems and the fork seems to suffer from a lot of the same issues.

[round quest]

ahh i see

do you know what the issues are?

[elfin locust]

A little bit of everything really. It kept conflicting with all sorts of other mods that impacted audio like skinwalkers, etc... and eventually the original modder discontinued support.

I know a similar mod being made with similar features by a different mod author would be LethalSanity, but I believe it's currently a little buggy atm as well.

Personally I'd recommend just waiting for Chaos to do his own overhaul of the sanity system if you're deadset on something like that.

[green lava]

also has some conflicts which is why it was kinda buggy in my pack but the creator seems dedicated so i think they will be fixed

[elfin locust]

Yeah I believe the mod author for that is fairly active so I'm sure they'll work out the bugs soon enough

[round quest]

i tried the mod with just the insanity fork and it worked so i guess its another mod in my modpack

[elfin locust]

That's modding for you, trial and error until you can isolate which mods are bumping heads is tough.

[golden sage]

wowie it even shows up on openbodycams

[carmine wren]

I should probably make the post processing effect local to avoid things like that

[golden sage]

maybe

but I like this on openbodycams specifically

[carmine wren]

yeah the rim part looks okay

it probably shows raindrops and cracks too atm. That might take some fps

[oblique spoke]

hey @carmine wren, I have tested your mod and it seems that when you take damage while the raining particles effect is active, the effect freezes. When you take a shelter, it suddenly disappears and vice versa. Is this only occurred only from my end or actually a bug?

[carmine wren]

raineffect does that and could never find a reason. The effect disappearing was specifically made for that as a quick fix to reset the effect

But that was for few particles freezing for some unknown reason

does the whole effect freezes?

[oblique spoke]

I see

[oblique spoke]

Only for the raindrop effect

the visor damage effect is actually okay

I think when an event of visor gets damaged, the raindrop animation suddenly stops working.

but only for the animation tho.

the effect is still responding to the rain.

[carmine wren]

does that happen consistently? I'll try to replicate it and see what I can do about it

[oblique spoke]

Trying to replicate again and see where it goes.

Ouh another thing to note while testing it: I was jumping from the ledge to take some damage in offense map while the weather is currently raining. Just for your heads up if you wanna test this.

[oblique spoke]

Now I cant even get the raindrops at all hahaha

🥹

[carmine wren]

could you send me the log?

I failed to replicate it so far

[oblique spoke]

from BepInEx console right

?

[carmine wren]

yes

@oblique spoke do you use mac by any chance

[oblique spoke]

nope

windows

[hallow dagger]

BepIn console is just an opened log essentially.

[carmine wren]

this file

[hallow dagger]

Mod Manager has a button to copy the log.

[carmine wren]

sounds handy, didn't know

[oblique spoke]

You know what.. I just send the whole log output XD

here is my modpack if you wanna test it 018e415f-30f0-b812-e2ad-3f9a079b4270

[carmine wren]

it was helmet camera. not sure why my mod is struggles with that one yet though.

[oblique spoke]

openbodycam mod?

[carmine wren]

that's the name?

[oblique spoke]

idk why i say openbodycam lol

but yea this is the one

[carmine wren]

at least on my end, with everything enabled, disabling that one made the rain visible at least

need to check more

[oblique spoke]

Nice!

[carmine wren]

it would be nice if you could test how it goes on your end later

[oblique spoke]

How come this mod is quite incompatible with helmet cam? Issit overwriting with the view from the monitor?

[oblique spoke]

Sure! Later I'll check

thanks for testing using my modpack tho... much appreciated!

[magic valley]

So emotingapi and openbodycams compatible?

[carmine wren]

openbodycams and helmet camera both are not compatible with raindrop effect from what I tested

and I just noticed it draws rain on helmet camera and not the view the players looking at

I should fix this first

[opal stone]

😭

with Office enabled the rain sliding off the helmet stops working, but if i look up i can see some raindrops, i think? i dont know if that was already in the game though

[terse oak]

is it possible for a config option so raindrops disappear slower when you're out of the rain?

like for 30s or so

would be fun

[carmine wren]

it's possible

[terse oak]

muh immurshun

😄

[hallow dagger]

Raindrops worked for me with OBC. I'll check again when I get back home.

I wouldn't bother trying to work around Helmet Cameras mod. OBC is the go to that is superior to any other option.

[hallow dagger]

Not an issue with Office but something else.

[oblique spoke]

Interesting..

[hallow dagger]

Yeah, considered switching to OBC.

[unreal radish]

tbh thats pretty immersive tho ng;

ngl

like now it makes sense

the visor also has a camera in it, so if the visor cracks, so does the camera

if water gets on it water gets on the cam

[hallow dagger]

That is if we assume that the camera and visor are the same. OBC also has an option that switches to a bodycam instead of helmet. So ultimately I think it's better to keep cameras clean.

[unreal radish]

making it optional would be nice

[unreal radish]

thats when your camera is on the body rather than the visor

[hallow dagger]

What?

[unreal radish]

wdym what

[hallow dagger]

I don't know what you're talking about. Just sounds like a repeat of what I already said.

[unreal radish]

im saying what you said doesent disprove that the camera and the visor are the same. When you set the camera to head, that means the camera is integrated with the visor, and if you set it to body, there is a body cam are your body

[hallow dagger]

I didn't say it to disprove anything. Just that it wouldn't make sense if camera was on body.

Which is another thing to account for if you were to keep visor on cameras.

And it's not as easy as "just making it an option".

[oblique spoke]

Wait so the "bodycam" will display camera on your stomach/chest or above the visor like the tactical gear ones?

[carmine wren]

depends on option

[hallow dagger]

OBC has option that lets you pick camera position. Body or helmet.

[oblique spoke]

Uuu thats so cool

I always wondered if we can view it like that

Ah I can see the config here

[opal stone]

yeah, found out couple minutes later, turned Office on and off and the visor doesn’t work even if it’s off

no idea what’s causing it, will go over all my mods later 🫠

[hallow dagger]

Most likely something that deals with post processing or visor.

[carmine wren]

does your raindrop effect still works with OBC?

because even I'm having problem with it right now.

Also got reported another case of raindrop effect bug and that video also had OBC

[hallow dagger]

It did work on my main profile when 0.3 just came out. I'll get back to you with my full mod list and response in about an hour.

[oblique spoke]

oh nice, it works with stormy now

[hallow dagger]

Maybe some options make it not work.

[oblique spoke]

tried damaging the visor and the animation still works too..

[carmine wren]

suspected that too so I'm thinking of just going through options

[oblique spoke]

yea helmet_camera seems to be incompatible for some reason

[carmine wren]

anything that puts another camera inside gameplay camera as a child seems to cause the issue

[oblique spoke]

i see

im going to try with openbody cams with general improvements now

[glossy panther]

OpenBodyCams is fine?

[carmine wren]

it works?

[oblique spoke]

Yea it doesnt work lmao

[glossy panther]

No I'm asking

[oblique spoke]

I just tried it

[glossy panther]

Yea

[oblique spoke]

@hallow dagger what config did you set for it to work?

[hallow dagger]

Try the one that disables when target is on ship maybe?

[oblique spoke]

what about the attachment mode? issit body or head?

I feel like setting it to "body" works because it doesnt replicate the visor

[carmine wren]

now I know for sure that camera inside camera is an issue

unity does the same

[oblique spoke]

Ouhh so it applies to the monitor instead of the player..?

Interesting

[hallow dagger]

Nah. I use helmet. I also have all compatability options off.

[oblique spoke]

curious and curiouser

Hey I tried using "body" and "disable camera on ship" and it works with those config

setting everything to compatible

this is stormy

[lime thistle]

what's that lens effect mod?

[oblique spoke]

Ouh that is reshade body cam

[lime thistle]

ah ok

ty

[carmine wren]

oh that's great. Mine still doesn't work tho

I should try again

[oblique spoke]

I'm going to try setting to "Head" again but maintain "disable camera on ship" and see where it goes

[lime thistle]

hah. the helmet also shows up in these cameras from Office

[oblique spoke]

wth XD

I dont mind noticing that as long as it doesnt break the experience haha

[carmine wren]

I'm defo changing visor post processing volume to local in next patch

[oblique spoke]

It works!

[hallow dagger]

Not everyone uses that option though.

[oblique spoke]

So technically when we set the config to "disable on ship" it actually fully disables player's but ONLY the players view. It somehow makes sense when you showed us that it only renders on monitors only for the effect to run.

Am I theoretically correct on this?

[carmine wren]

when the effect begins, if there any camera that's enabled inside gameplayer camera in the game hierarchy, it snatches post processing effects that's set to 'beforePostProcessing'

I think this is just how unity works but I'll have to find a workaround

[oblique spoke]

Understood.

Welp. It's nice to see the cause of the problem itself tho

[lime thistle]

weird. now my rain isnt working

[desert tinsel]

You had the issue too

[oblique spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-so-tired-good-night-im-done-gif-9561101

[carmine wren]

or turning off post processing for the helmet camera also works too

[desert tinsel]

It was working right before I went to bed last night but when I woke up LethalLib needed to update so I don't know if that affected anything

[carmine wren]

I updated on my side and that might be the issue

I should test with older version also

older one does the same

if I bet on that people doesn't really change OBC's camera resolution, which is with default setting very crusty, I could just get away with disabling custom post processing effect for OBC's camera.

[hallow dagger]

We could get OBC author here. Maybe they could assist.

They are usually very helpful.

[oblique spoke]

IMHO ppl are using OBC is either wanted the compatibility or just wanna get a quick view of the monitor itself. I feel like I dont need that much res for it as long as I can see other's perspective and that should be suffice lol

[hallow dagger]

@jolly geode I summon thee.

[jolly geode]

hmm, this issue happens with Helmet_Cameras as well? not sure if I can fix it on my end then

[jolly geode]

doesn't the custom post processing affect the fog shader?

I specifically tried to keep that so that people can't just see straight through the fog on Rend/Dine/Titan

also, there's a decent amount of people that I've seen crank up the resolution of the body cam

[hallow dagger]

Wasn't expecting you to. Just thought that maybe you had some tips to solving it on IV end.

[jolly geode]

gotcha

then I guess the question about Helmet_Cameras becomes more important

also @oblique spoke @hallow dagger is the issue that the raindrops stop appearing while the body cam is rendering? I'm a little unclear from reading up above

[jolly geode]

also this is the reason I ask whether Helmet_Cameras also exhibits the same issue, since it only puts the camera at the root

OpenBodyCams does put the camera in the hierarchy as a child of the main camera to inherit its vertical angle, so if it only happens with that, then that may be the issue, yeah

[oblique spoke]

Technically this explains it all. When we enable some monitor that projects the view of ourselves, it somehow applies to that effect itself rather than the actual player's pov. hence, the hierarchy.

That is why when we set the config "Disable player pov when in ship" (smth like that) it works.

[hallow dagger]

When DisableCameraWhileTargetIsOnShip is on everything works fine. When it's off raindrops don't appear.

[opal stone]

huh i was about to ask because i have DisableCameraWhileTargetIsOnShip set to false and the raindrops worked

just installed it on another modpack so i havent changed anything

[desert tinsel]

Seems like it started working again for me

[oblique spoke]

hmm... this wasn't the case for me.

[hallow dagger]

Ultimately DisableCameraWhileTargetIsOnShip is not a solution, as I bet they will still break in MP.

It's just that solo they never will as you'll never see the camera anyway.

[oblique spoke]

I see.. trying to test with my friends later and see where it goes

[jolly geode]

I would assume it would work, judging by what Woecust said, since it should only interfere when viewing yourself on the camera

[hallow dagger]

Oh.

[jolly geode]

any time you're outside the ship, that camera is inactive, and any time you're watching another player you're not going to be interacting with the shader volume on the local player

[hallow dagger]

Right.

[jolly geode]

theoretically anyway

I don't understand what exactly causes this issue, need Woecust to give some more info I think

although @oblique spoke you had Helmet_Cameras before, right? did that also have the same issue where the raindrops wouldn't appear on your player camera?

[hallow dagger]

@carmine wren hmm, I can still see the old rain overlay when looking up.

New raindrops and cracks are just gorgeous.

[oblique spoke]

Yup.. I havent noticed that much tho because during that time I didn't know whats the actual cause of this issue based on my modpack.

And when I turned that off, it instantly works

[jolly geode]

interesting, then it's probably not related to the hierarchy at all

I honestly don't have much of a clue how volumes work in Unity yet though

I would've expected a global volume to just affect the body cam and the main camera both, and a local one to affect whatever cameras are in its area regardless of how many

[hallow dagger]

Maybe next update that limits the effect to local player only will fix that. Or maybe they're already on to fixing both.

[jolly geode]

possibly.. I would've expected global to work more reliably than local though

guess we'll see

it'd be nice if the rain shader was active on the body cam though, I think, as long as it didn't interfere with them on the main camera

[jolly geode]

it looks like as soon as any second camera renders the raindrops, the solver breaks on that first camera

not sure if it's possible to make it work for all cameras separately, but seems like that might be nice

if not, it would probably be good to set the volume to its own layer to ensure that no other camera renders it

[twin grail]

😄

[carmine wren]

think I have a faint idea on why it might does this.
And it probably is because solver is made to handle only 1 camera instance at a time as you said.
I could get around it by having multiple solvers but I don't know of a way for a post processing volume script to know which camera it's rendering for at a time.
Along with the fact that solver computation is quite heavy on it's own (which is why it uses low res render texture for rainMap computation).
Though if there's a guarantee that there would be only maximum of 3 cameras using the raindrop effect the game might be able to handle it.
Still that would be after I figure out how to let the volume know what camera it's rendering for.

[magic valley]

So this mod works with Openbodycams then considering the issues I'm seeing being talked about rn-

Though idk about emoteapi-

[carmine wren]

So currently, when finishing computing rain texture for one camera, solver just overwrites every render textures it's using when rendering next camera.

That would explain the freezing issue too actually

huh

[jolly geode]

yeah, I feel like there's a lot I don't understand with how this works to give real advice, but definitely the easiest solution is just to set the volume to some arbitrary layer that is unused by any other volumes in the game and then set the HDAdditionalCameraData.volumeLayerMask

but it would be a shame not to get the raindrops on other cameras

I think I would expect a max of 4 cameras rendering that would want raindrops, and likely only 2 really since nobody currently modifies the ship cameras to use the main camera's volume mask

[jolly geode]

currently it has issues with OpenBodyCams

[magic valley]

oh dang

[carmine wren]

some people say setting DisableCameraWhileTargetIsOnShip to true fixes it but didn't on my end.

well everyone but me so far actually

[twin grail]

I temporarly made this patch in Woecust.ImmersiveVisor.PostProcessing.VisorRaindrop::Render, so EmotesAPI camera won't get the raindrop postprocess

[jolly geode]

yeah, problem is that I think if it renders even one frame it'll bug the raindrops lol

in solo testing that setting generally does prevent it from rendering a frame, but once another player joins, all bets are off

oh yeah wait, in that function, couldn't you just have your RaindropSolver class be a component attached to the camera instead so that you can have an instance for each camera? or am I clueless lol

not sure about calling GetComponent() every frame though, idk the performance cost

[carmine wren]

It'd work. I should try that

Since volum's render() gives HDCamera data, I could just instance new less taxing solver whenever it's using a new camera.

at least I hope so

wait, It won't matter when watching other player's view but that would cause the body cam's raindrop not matching what the local player is seeing.

[jolly geode]

well, that works in my headcanon for it anyway

I attached the body cam to the side of the helmet, not behind the visor

[carmine wren]

oh then it doesn't matter

also now that I think about it

raindrop disappears pretty quick anyway

no one's weird enough to check if the rain pattern matches in the camera I think

[jolly geode]

yeah lol

[magic valley]

So rn Openbodycam is good?

[jolly geode]

not yet

[magic valley]

oof k

[keen spoke]

I think you can choose in OpenBodyCams whether you use a head cam or a body cam— maybe head cams could have the effects and body cams don’t?

If that’s even possible

I’m busy atm but I skimmed the messages and it seems like that isn’t possible, or at least easily

[solar lagoon]

Something I noticed is that the visor doesn't get lit up anymore

it's always black

[hallow dagger]

Yes.

[jolly geode]

no, that's not how it works, the effect will be on any camera that includes layer 1 in its volume mask

regardless of position in the world or object hierarchy

[keen spoke]

Yeah I realized that after catching up in messages haha

[terse oak]

is it possible to optimize raindrops somehow? my friend has integrated GPU and his fps tanks when it's raining 😄

can't say the same on my 3070

[round quest]

right now you can just turn off some visual settings in the config

[terse oak]

just did, still 16 fps

i guess i'll turn it off completely

[hallow dagger]

Game's minimal requirement is GTX 1050.

[lime thistle]

is the default rain texture meant to be off when this is active cus its not

for me

[lime thistle]

sometimes it works other times it doesnt

very confusing

[jolly geode]

you might be encountering the issue we were discussing before, if other cameras render with certain parameters it'll break, most commonly when you have a body camera mod

I believe we've figured out a solution so I'm sure it's in the works

multiple possible solutions actually

[lime thistle]

ah ok

[magic valley]

Okay before I start this works with the emotesapi mod right?

[carmine wren]

I can think of a few ways to optimize it. I'll try

[carmine wren]

It should be okay. And if it cause some problems, bug report would be appreciated

[round quest]

this might be an unpopular opinion but I liked the old crack effect more. The current one doesn't feel natural. The cracks are like 2 pillars on the side of your vision

[carmine wren]

That was actually something I whipped up quick because I lost the source file

I'm planning to make the effect takes on both side at once then them cracking bigger as player takes more damage

them appearing fully on one side after taking hit is going to change in updates after bug fix patches

[round quest]

ahh ok

[twin grail]

works fine, but raindrops are currently bugged with the emotesAPI camera preview, see #1191113181653905423 message

[vagrant oak]

btw what is that weird little colored guy?

[twin grail]

[Info   :ImmersiveVisorLogSource] Visor Damaged
IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
  at Woecust.ImmersiveVisor.Visor.Damage (CauseOfDeath cause) [0x00060] in <400baa3049e5451998baadb1982dc29a>:IL_0060 
  at Woecust.ImmersiveVisor.Patches.PlayerControllerBPatch.DamageVisor (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB& __instance, CauseOfDeath& causeOfDeath) [0x00018] in <400baa3049e5451998baadb1982dc29a>:IL_0018 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::DamagePlayer>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,int,bool,bool,CauseOfDeath,int,bool,UnityEngine.Vector3)
  at BaboonBirdAI.OnCollideWithPlayer (UnityEngine.Collider other) [0x000f0] in <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_00F0 
  at EnemyAICollisionDetect.OnTriggerStay (UnityEngine.Collider other) [0x00041] in <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0041 

oof

[twin grail]

hm?

[carmine wren]

0.3.2 is getting uploaded. Just minor bug fixes along with the raindrop effect fix with OpenBodyCams. Also the fix for the bug that's right above this message

I tried to make body cam display rain with solutions I had in mind but failed for now. I'll keep trying but HDRP and multiple camera + post processing in unity is a mess

I hope I didn't break anything this time

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Woecust/Immersive_Visor/

[twin grail]

Render Pipeline itself is bad decision to make

Default render was better imo

[carmine wren]

well, at least I now know what I'm NOT doing when I make games next time

[cobalt roost]

are there any known issues or incompatibilities with this mod so i can avoid them?

[carmine wren]

so far just Helmet_Camera

other issues are resolved for now

[cobalt roost]

should use OBC anyways

what about performance? i've seen some people say removing visors (even vanilla) improves their performance, but i honestly never tried and dont think it would add much.

[carmine wren]

doubt they were literally talking about visor but rather DOF effect

visor rim is now just post processing effect with this mod

though it won't react to lights because of that

[cobalt roost]

the light shining on the visor glass?

[hallow dagger]

There's no "visor glass" in IV anyway.

Other than cracks.

Same in vanilla actually. They're just always there and static.

[cobalt roost]

makes sense

thanks

[carmine wren]

I did hear integrated GPU having problem with raindrop effect as it uses GPU(compute shader) to calculate the raindrop map.

[chilly moth]

wait so is the render back to the 0.2.4 version

[carmine wren]

What render?

[jolly geode]

what did you try with regard to making the solver per-camera? I think it would probably be fine to just make a Dictionary or a couple of Lists to map a Camera instance to a RaindropSolver so each can have its own instance, does that cause issues?

(using a List<Camera> and List<RaindropSolver> makes the most sense to me given how few cameras there will be, finding one camera in a list of 2-5 cameras is going to take a negligible amount of time)

[carmine wren]

I did exatly that but didn't work

[jolly geode]

interesting, what did it do with that solution?

same issue where it would freeze?

[carmine wren]

Yeah

Like the rain wouldn't disappear sometimes but always freeze

[jolly geode]

gotcha, that's a shame

I do kinda want to get to the bottom of it, since I'm wondering if a similar issue is causing the custom pass that zeekers put on the main camera to create some flickering when a second camera renders at lower than the game framerate

but at some point I'll dig into that problem separately anyway, I want to see what happens if I duplicate the volume

[twin grail]

Wait

compute shader is static

[carmine wren]

That cause the problem?

[twin grail]

you probably need to initialize a new for each solver

[twin grail]

yeah probably

because you're overriding the texture pointer

and some properties

[jolly geode]

ahh yeah that makes sense

[twin grail]

I'll try to test rn

[hallow dagger]

Happens when going back to the menu.

[carmine wren]

Ahhhh

I'm outside now can't do much about rn

Still playable?

[hallow dagger]

Yeah. Main Menu is a bit scuffed, but it's okay.

In-game is fine.

[twin grail]

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Woecust.ImmersiveVisor.PostProcessing.VisorRaindrop.Render (UnityEngine.Rendering.CommandBuffer cmd, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDCamera camera, UnityEngine.Rendering.RTHandle source, UnityEngine.Rendering.RTHandle destination) (at <782f38d8d43945d8be2a9166f430294f>:IL_0046)
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline+<>c.<DoCustomPostProcess>b__928_0 (UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline+CustomPostProcessData data, UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraphContext ctx) (at <b8abf62aeac646cea5c5cde032ff9314>:IL_00F6)
UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraphPass`1[PassData].Execute (UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraphContext renderGraphContext) (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_0006)
UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph.ExecuteCompiledPass (UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph+CompiledPassInfo& passInfo, System.Int32 passIndex) (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_006F)
UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipelineManager:DoRenderLoop_Internal(RenderPipelineAsset, IntPtr, Object)

yeah

[carmine wren]

I hate myself

[twin grail]

it's my bad actually

my code cause null exception

[carmine wren]

Yeah for some reason volume doesn't like returning with not drawing anything

I had to make shader for just rendering the screen without doing anything and used that because of that

[twin grail]

looks like creating for each camera raindrop solver and compute shader fixes the issue

[carmine wren]

I should try that when I get home

[hallow dagger]

No rush. We could always roll back to an older version. Take your time.

[twin grail]

But still need some sort of whitelisting or blacklisting cameras

[carmine wren]

I forgot to make raindrop also ignore none main camera

Only did that to visor rim atm

[hallow dagger]

There's also old rain overlay that needs removing. Unless you intended for it to stay.

[jolly geode]

just make it create them for all cameras with volume layer masks that include the main volume on layer 1

[hallow dagger]

And making rain/visor not stretch/squish and be independent of aspect ratio.

[jolly geode]

or does that camera for some reason include layer 1?

checking the line of sight from the rain occluder to the camera and checking the y value may be able to solve it if that's the case though

presumably the emote preview camera isn't in a place where it would see the sky

as an additional condition, it could check if the camera can see the rain effects

[carmine wren]

I'm wondering how that camera works with main camera displaying raindrops without any trouble

[twin grail]

I'm just answering to this, so it is possible to render main and body cams without raindrop issues

but for body cams we need local visor for each player to update rain properites

[carmine wren]

Oh that's after you did that

I somehow forgot

[jolly geode]

what does that mean exactly?

does it need some collider? I thought it was just randomizing drops if it could see the sky essentially

[twin grail]

Visor component is currently doing Linecast to the sky

but it's only for local player

for integration with body cams need to create a visor for every player

[jolly geode]

can the updating not be done in the function call that is aware of which camera is being rendered?

sorry phone is fighting me here

[twin grail]

probably only if checking what currently body cams is rendering right now

not sure

[carmine wren]

It can

[jolly geode]

what I'm trying to get at here is that my understanding is all the rain shader needs to know is whether the sky is unobstructed, which can be determined from the camera position when Render() is called

the rest of the shaders I'm not so sure about obviously

but personally I think it makes sense for the visor crack to be separate/limited to the local player's camera, not sure how best that could be done though

anyway, just trying to throw some ideas out there, but I gotta pass out now

[carmine wren]

It can do that but I'll just check cast all at once every .x seconds in Visor class. And just register camera from volume whenever it detects new camera currently rendering

[pearl rain]

After I updated to 0.3.2, the landing cutscene from Diversity became black screen.

idk if this log is helpful

[jade breach]

Seems like a conflict with #1191113181653905423

[twin grail]

Known issue, downgrade the ImmersiveVisor version

[pearl rain]

owh okay

[hallow dagger]

Well yes, we're in that thread already.

[jade breach]

Yeah for some reason I thought we were in Diversity cause I failed to look up

But I wasn't wrong

[white kraken]

v 32 breaks my ui

when I quit to menu the pause screen doest go away

[carmine wren]

Been reported, currently working on the fix

[twin grail]

Known issue, please read the thread

[white kraken]

ok

[desert tinsel]

So I have a fun conflict that wasn't there before. I have this third person mod installed (https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Verity/3rdPerson/), and whenever I press the button to go 3rd person my screen goes black and starts spamming this:

[Error : Unity Log] Render Graph Execution error
[Warning: Unity Log]
[Error : Unity Log] Render Graph Execution error at pass VisorRaindrop (70)
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Woecust.ImmersiveVisor.PostProcessing.VisorRaindrop.Render (UnityEngine.Rendering.CommandBuffer cmd, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDCamera camera, UnityEngine.Rendering.RTHandle source, UnityEngine.Rendering.RTHandle destination) (at <782f38d8d43945d8be2a9166f430294f>:IL_0071)
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline+<>c.<DoCustomPostProcess>b__928_0 (UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline+CustomPostProcessData data, UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraphContext ctx) (at <b8abf62aeac646cea5c5cde032ff9314>:IL_00F6)
UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraphPass1[PassData].Execute (UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraphContext renderGraphContext) (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_0006) UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph.ExecuteCompiledPass (UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph+CompiledPassInfo& passInfo, System.Int32 passIndex) (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_00DB) UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph.ExecuteRenderGraph () (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_0029) UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph.Execute () (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_0049) UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object) AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.Unity.<>c__DisplayClass4_0:<LogException>b__0() AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.JobWrapper:LogWorker() AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.LogJob:Execute() Unity.Jobs.JobStruct1:Execute(LogJob&, IntPtr, IntPtr, JobRanges&, Int32)

[quiet light]

Perhaps I have somehow done something wrong, but the new raindrops seem to not work at all for me.

[carmine wren]

could you send me the mod list

[quiet light]

Certainly, how should I do that?

[carmine wren]

actually, could you send me the code

this should do

[quiet light]

Ah, okay

[solar lagoon]

Apparently this mod is making this issue?

[carmine wren]

yes

been addressed and currently managed to fix in the local build

[feral rover]

is this mod compatible with VR? i can try it later but just curious if anyone has already done so

[carmine wren]

I don't think anyone tried ever since effects moving to post processing

[feral rover]

alright, i'll give it a try later. would be pretty cool if it is compatible

[solar lagoon]

I don't know what happened but I'm not seeing the rain on the visor anymore

[carmine wren]

I probably need more testing but as of now in local build,
Diversity Landing Incompatibility fixed
Main Menu bugging fixed
3rd person blackout fixed
OBC renders raindrops too

anymore info could you share on what happened when that happened?

[solar lagoon]

Just tried it again and now it works

weird

didn't change anything

[carmine wren]

current web version has tons of bugs so I hope it's somethign related I just fixed

this is the current local build

I sort of need to test it more so It would be very appreciated if someone's brave enough to try it and give me feedback

the post processing volume spits error message when quitting to main menu but that part causes no issue. I'll try to get rid of that too in the meantime

[hallow dagger]

On it. What do you want tested?

[carmine wren]

these for now.

[hallow dagger]

Won't be testing 3rd person one.

[carmine wren]

Also about rains getting stretched, I couldn't replicate it on my end. Even when playing with the same resolution as you. Got no idea why it does that

[hallow dagger]

Maybe I was full of shit.

It's hard to compare them considering their dynamic nature.

[carmine wren]

it did look stretched to me too

[hallow dagger]

Visor Rim is stretched too still.

[carmine wren]

oh that's how it's supposed to be. Thought people would prefer that more

should add an option

[hallow dagger]

My view on how aspect ratio related placement of elements should work is that if you were to for example crop a screenshot from 21:9 to 16:9, it should looks indistinguishable from real 16:9. Sure, HUD elements can be exempt from that as that is a personal preference. But actual visuals should stay the same. Only the actual view should get wider or narrow.

Anyway, Diversity cutscene works as you can see.

Main Menu seems fine.

OBC works fine too. Raindrops show as expected.

[carmine wren]

nice to hear

3rd person one didn't work for the same reason as Diversity cutscene so It should work too

Thanks for the help

[hallow dagger]

👍

[pine obsidian]

Hello! Love this mod, been testing it a lot and have noticed there is an incompatability with TooManyEmotes and wasnt sure if it was reported, issue being raindrops either do not appear after emoting or stop moving when returning to first person

Also noticed on certain modded moons despite rain and thunderstorm weather there were no raindrops and vanilla image was used instead

[carmine wren]

vanilla images appear alongside with current rain as I didn't have time to find a way to disable it.

I'll try TooManyEmotes with local build and see how it goes, thanks

[hallow dagger]

Probably the same issue as 3rd person and Diversity cutscene?

[desert tinsel]

Personally I like the vanilla rain image appearing because it kind of looks like condensation building up during the rain

[carmine wren]

confirmed to work with local build. fix will be pushed in next patch

[carmine wren]

Could you check if this looks okay? this one adjust rim stretches depending on resolution ( RenderTexture size for the main camera to be exact)

[pine obsidian]

Ok awesome!

[green lava]

love this way of working. actually testing the mods with the community just like matty does with lobbycontrol

[hallow dagger]

Only issue is that it only appears when you look up.

[hallow dagger]

It's even more stretched now.

[carmine wren]

what?

did I put the values opposite

[carmine wren]

I did

here

maybe I'm tired

[hallow dagger]

I can imagine.

At least my niche issue is not the only one. Or maybe it would've been better if it was.

But hey, considering how you mentioned this experience possibly helping you in your future game dev endeavours, it could be helpful I guess.

Strange.

The top is a perfect match.

The bottom part is a bit wider though for some reason.

[carmine wren]

That's because I'm using math that I don't understand

just a little tweak would do

[split marten]

i dont know if its immersive visor mod or strangerthings mod bug
when I got caught by the monster, the breaking sounds from visor keeps playing even when I died

dont have a record sorry

[carmine wren]

did the sound effect keep playing when you were spectating too?

[split marten]

yes

until they pull the lever

[carmine wren]

Well, now the sounds only plays at the moment of visor breaking so hopefully that does something about it.

uploaded
as always it's going to take some time before appearing in mod manager

[split marten]

one more thing
when one of my friends exploded the little doll from lethalthings , openbodycam broke (with crack on the screen)
im also using GeneraIImprovements
it also got fixed when orbited

[carmine wren]

Oh I forgot about doing something about crack and other cameras

[split marten]

it happen inside the ship when I monitoring on the terminal with PicinPic in OBC

[carmine wren]

I don't know how that happened. Cracks supposed to only react to local player's damage

it doesn't record each player's damage and show them on OBC

0.3.3

-Views through OpenBodyCams now displays raindrops too. -Fixed camera blacking out / shaders not working when going third person through other mods. -Fixed main menu background not clearing when quitting to main menu. -Fixed visor breaking no matter the health and playing breaking sound effect on every hit taken. -Changed default visor condensation image to not appear when looking up in rainy weather. -Changed visor rim to not stretch on ultra wide resolutions.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Woecust/Immersive_Visor/

Now I sleep and hope I won't wake up to more bugs

[green lava]

@pale storm i think you can relate

Yall even have the same pfp lol

[desert tinsel]

Yeah true

[crisp dove]

Was using the mod yesterday and it made the game extremely laggy whenever it was raining. Just thought id report that. im using lots of other mods though so maybe it was caused by some incompatibility

[carmine wren]

Oh yeah it's taxing. Older GPU might have problems

I should focus on optimization on next patch really

[hallow dagger]

What are your specs?

[pale storm]

lmao it's even the same words 😭

[hallow dagger]

Still the case.

[vagrant oak]

the rain drops are

SUPER

Laggy

[hallow dagger]

What are your specs?

[vagrant oak]

Laptop 😎

[hallow dagger]

That's not specs.

[vagrant oak]

dog shit for short

[hallow dagger]

I'm serious, can you give me something? What processor? What GPU?

[vagrant oak]

um, hold on :P

fuck i thought i knew how to find it but i cant find it :P

[crisp dove]

mine aren't great so i made a friend with a great pc test it out and he had the same issue

[vagrant oak]

System Model HP Pavilion x360 2-in-1 Laptop 14-ek0xxx
Processor 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1235U, 1300 Mhz, 10 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)

[carmine wren]

That's an issue. My 1660s holds at least. What GPU does he use?

[crisp dove]

il ask em cuz i dont remember exactly

[carmine wren]

Well, whatever it is, something considered great shouldn't have problem. I'll think of some ways to optimize in my sleep

[crisp dove]

he has an rtx 3060 nvida

so uh yea

[hallow dagger]

So no dGPU. Below LC's spec. Although if it runs well without IV, I guess there is a case to be made that it could use some optimising.

[hallow dagger]

I'm on 3070 and droplets change nothing about my performance.

[carmine wren]

Was that after the update or always like that

[vagrant oak]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sesame-street-shrug-idk-i-have-no-idea-gif-17243185

[hallow dagger]

Think it ran bad for folks with iGPUs ever since droplets were added.

[crisp dove]

wait oh shit i didnt realize there was an update today, time to test it again to see if it works, il be back

[carmine wren]

But then there's someone with 3060 having lags

[hallow dagger]

Maybe a conflict?

Anyway, I thought you were going to sleep.

[carmine wren]

I need to wake up in 5 hours anyway

[feral rover]

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-cooper-bbt-sleep-i-dont-need-sleep-gif-5115394

[solar lagoon]

Will you make the visor be affected by light like it does in the original?

[chilly moth]

yea rn its pitch black

[solar lagoon]

Immersive visor is generating a lot of errors when using the jetpack

[feral rover]

completely incompatible. just causes the screen to be black

[carmine wren]

Shame, can't do much since I don't know how VR and post processing works together

[carmine wren]

of all the things, how jetpack. I'll check what's up with that

I failed to replicate, any other things you did at the time? or maybe a mod list

also I tried jetpack for the first time, how the hell people control this thing lol

[jade breach]

Skill issue tbh

[carmine wren]

Very lazy blood decal generator I whipped up in 10 minutes with substance.
Just going to export few of these and draw them dynamically on screen and see how it goes.

[little beacon]

hell yeaahh! blood splatter would be a very nice feature

[desert tinsel]

So after messing with the update the 3rd person works. but it seems to under specific circumstances

Like if I do anything that causes my visor to crack then it gives me a blue screen when I try to go 3rd person

[carmine wren]

Think I know what's causing that. Thanks for the report

[desert tinsel]

No problem 👍

[split marten]

this is what i mean and cant see their pov

[round quest]

what is the mod with all the monitors and info?

[solar lagoon]

GeneralImprovements

[twin grail]

[Error  : Unity Log] Render Graph Execution error at pass VisorRim (75)
[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Woecust.ImmersiveVisor.PostProcessing.VisorRim.Render (UnityEngine.Rendering.CommandBuffer cmd, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDCamera camera, UnityEngine.Rendering.RTHandle source, UnityEngine.Rendering.RTHandle destination) (at <0b64513074324f85bfe22120da884dac>:IL_000C)
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline+<>c.<DoCustomPostProcess>b__928_0 (UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline+CustomPostProcessData data, UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraphContext ctx) (at <b8abf62aeac646cea5c5cde032ff9314>:IL_00F6)
UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraphPass`1[PassData].Execute (UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraphContext renderGraphContext) (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_0006)
UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph.ExecuteCompiledPass (UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph+CompiledPassInfo& passInfo, System.Int32 passIndex) (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_00DB)
UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph.ExecuteRenderGraph () (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_0029)
UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.RenderGraphModule.RenderGraph.Execute () (at <5894f473d04c4b32a09732d83eec5e98>:IL_0049)
UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object)
AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.Unity.<>c__DisplayClass4_0:<LogException>b__0()
AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.JobWrapper:LogWorker()
AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.LogJob:Execute()
Unity.Jobs.JobStruct`1:Execute(LogJob&, IntPtr, IntPtr, JobRanges&, Int32)

Happens when leaving the server

[jolly geode]

I'm encountering this too, as long as the damage texture is visible, it seems to restrict the body cam to the bottom left of the camera's actaul frustum somehow

it doesn't appear to be a sampling issue, since the number of pixels stays consistent with and without the damage texture

however, the lower the resolution of the body cam, the smaller the rendered section is

it's cool to see the effect working on the body cams though, nice job!

[alpine basin]

Can we have an option to disable the openbodycams integration? It seems to cause a hell of a lot of lag

[jolly geode]

it's not really an integration, but perhaps if it causes low fps it could have an option to disable for all but the gameplay camera

[alpine basin]

Yeah like anytime the monitor is on it halfs the framerate

[chilly moth]

my screen is just bright blue when i died

and it spams the console

with a bunch of these

[carmine wren]

Current local build. Issues above 'should' be fixed now.
Cracks doesn't interrupt OBC cams,
option to show raindrops effect only on player view,
optimized raindrops effect (hopefully),
no more screen going wacky on death or 3rd person with cracks,
no error output on disconnecting,
visor rim stretches accurately.

[carmine wren]

0.3.4

Optimized raindrop effect. Fixed post processing volume error when quitting. Fixed visor crack interrupting OpenBodyCams, 3rd Person and other camera mods. Added an option to display raindrop only on player's view. Visor rim on ultrawide stretches more accurately.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Woecust/Immersive_Visor/

[chilly moth]

was there a reason why the cracks were changed?

[carmine wren]

That was because I lost the source file for the crack

[chilly moth]

like you lost the files or ownership

[carmine wren]

I deleted it without knowing

[chilly moth]

dang i really liked the 2.1 version lol

[carmine wren]

I 'might' be able to just decompile previous version's assetbundle of mine and extract the texture

[chilly moth]

yea that was my first thought on how to get them back

[pearl rain]

Same

[carmine wren]

I'll try to get it back or make something similar

[chilly moth]

!

[plain dome]

Would it be possible to keep the "vanilla" VisorRim instead of either disabling it or replacing it with the "black mask"? I personally like the way the light kinda shines on the visor and makes it look much more like an actual helmet than just a black mask if that makes sense

(I can make a video/clip to show it if needed)

[carmine wren]

I can

but raindrops and cracks will be seen through the visor rim

since it's drawn on top of the screen image

[plain dome]

Hm, unless you can make some kind of "invisible mask" that "hides" those raindrops and cracks specifically in the mesh region?

[carmine wren]

It's probably possible but my non-programmer brain might take some time figuring out. I can try

[plain dome]

No worries! My brain is good at coming up with ideas, but unfortunately I lack the necessary skills to come up with the technical solutions so I feel you 😅

[carmine wren]

like, I know it can be done. Just doesn't have the right knowledge yet.

[oblique spoke]

I dragged this guy to the forum implicitly haha

[carmine wren]

Oh I see that lol

in the meantime, if you can take effects going through physical visor, I can add an option to bring it back.

[plain dome]

Oh yeah I think I can work with a temporary solution like this for sure!

[oblique spoke]

Take your time man, we're just giving suggestions to the mod lol

[carmine wren]

I wasn't fond of how it is now too

[plain dome]

It's funny how usually in most games I don't like when helmets and HUDs are "too obstructive" but in Lethal Company I think it does help quite a lot actually with the overall ambience, like kinda in a claustrophobic way

[carmine wren]

(Something I was trying back then)

[plain dome]

ooo

[carmine wren]

didn't go well though

[plain dome]

looks neat!

[plain dome]

oh?

[carmine wren]

It should be easier now that I know a bit more about shaders now

it was hell of a mental gymnastic trying to get that work at the time cause I knew nothing

[plain dome]

I mean, I think the reason why Zeeker used an actual mesh is that it's probably easier to have it react to the real-time lights than having to develop or use some kind of sfx/shader that does it, may actually also be more performance efficient? (Don't quote me on that tho)

[oblique spoke]

Nice attempt tho. Personally , I feel like most of the people already okay with the vanilla visor rim because imo I feel like what makes this mod special is that it has "additional features" to the visor such as cracked screen, raindrops, blood splatter etc. I dont think we mind that much on changing how the visor look, again IMO.

[carmine wren]

I completely get that. It was more that the effects back then didn't work well with default visor to make it more customizable.

now it's okay

[vagrant oak]

Light mode 💀

[carmine wren]

I use it to flashbang people on screen share

[vagrant oak]

Question, do you get flashbanged?

Nvm XD

[oblique spoke]

I see..

[hallow dagger]

@carmine wren happy to report that visor rim is now scaled perfectly. Thank you very much for your patience with this extremely niche issue!

Oh, the raindrops look a bit different. Guess it's related to the optimisations? I like the look though.

They're less "crisp" than before.

[carmine wren]

I did get kinda greedy with custom visor though, after playing metroid prime

[oblique spoke]

I noticed this as well! I thought i was full of myself when I checked the latest version since the last version was a bit "brighter" if I can describe it lmao

[hallow dagger]

Did you get rid of vanilla rain overlay?

[carmine wren]

yes

[hallow dagger]

Sick!

Speaking of the sun. Is the issue with the sun itself? It's rendered over everything except meshes?

[carmine wren]

Yes

When I managed to bring back physical visor and sort out issues, it won't happen.

[hallow dagger]

Maybe it could also be tackled at the core. By someone else in another mod. Weird in general that it has priority over everything like that.

The sun I mean.

[carmine wren]

another mod?

I think Zeekerss did it to make the sun always at it's full color

[jolly geode]

one issue that makes the visor model tricky to integrate with your shaders is that it lerps to the actual camera angle

similar to how the UI does

with that, I think a mask wouldn't work, and the depth of field means a mask would leave a weird sharp edge too

not sure what the solution would be, since the visor model can't really be moved to the UI camera either and still have lighting

[carmine wren]

I'm just hoping future me would come up with something to solve those problems

Also about the last part,

The way I did the lighting in the pitcture was like

The mesh was attached to ui camera along with some lights

And used shader to sample brightness + color of screen and used those to set light colors etc

It was dumb but kinda worked I guess?

And helmet lerping, I can just do some math to give shader rotating feeling

• some sighting of weird thing I tried at some point

[hallow dagger]

Speaking of what Zaggy said, byproduct of current implementation is visor rim covering a bit of terminal due to it no longer zooming in with the rest of the view.

[carmine wren]

Oh yeah there was that too

[hallow dagger]

And coming back to what I said about how the sun works: even if it's intended, I think it doesn't work well. You can even clearly see it through the fog.

[carmine wren]

thinking of all this, it might be just easier to handle lighting inside rim shader.
The more we think about it there's just more problems

[hallow dagger]

So some kind of mod that maybe made the sun "blend" better with other effects would be welcome. Unless it completely breaks it and that's why it is how it is currently, because no other method would've worked.

[carmine wren]

I might want to try. Just so I won't have problem with it later with my visor rim

[hallow dagger]

Sun on sfDesat moons doesn't suffer from such issues btw.

[carmine wren]

Custom sun?

[empty steeple]

yeah

[carmine wren]

I wonder what that planet does with eclipse

[chilly moth]

did you ever find the old assets?

[carmine wren]

Didn't yet. Trying to get blood splatter sorted for now

[chilly moth]

alr

[haughty imp]

Did the bug ever get fixed with this mod that caused players voices to be stuck to the ship intercom. We could only hear some players while on the ship. And we could hear them on the ship even while they were dead or in the facility.

Uninstalling the mod fixed it

[carmine wren]

When was it that happened?

[haughty imp]

Like a month ago

Constantly in 4+ groups. They would have to leave and rejoin to fix it.

[carmine wren]

This mod went through whole rewrite since 3/14

Not sure what was causing that but haven't been reported about it since

[haughty imp]

Ok cool

[pine obsidian]

Not sure if this has been reported yet but currently not having any cracks on my screen but am experiencing rain drops just fine

[white kraken]

same

[carmine wren]

Cracks now only happen when the health goes below 75 and 35 for each level

I'll still look into it, thanks for the report

[pine obsidian]

of course, i ment that there are no cracks on my visor what so ever no matter my health, i was at 20 hitpoints and they didnt show up

ill delete config maybe

[carmine wren]

Very basic system is there now,
I just need to make directional textures use rainMap to erase the blood canvas.

[elfin locust]

Yeah cracks aren't showing at any point, just checked

[carmine wren]

probably should fix that first

why is the video frozen

• reference I used for this
  https://www.reddit.com/r/lethalcompany/comments/199nbof/this_game_is_too_scary_for_me/

[elfin locust]

The blood splatter effect looks good

[oblique spoke]

Actually, I also encountered this problem as well from my end. I thought it was due to incompatibility with TooManyEmotes’ 3rd Person FOV or something so thats why I don’t mind. But since multiple ppl reported the same issue regarding this, I also stepping in.

[pine obsidian]

this looks really good!!!

[elfin locust]

I know it's not relevant to the blood splatter but when he rounded the corner and there was a second nutcracker I audibly gasped. 🤣

[carmine wren]

strange, cracks seems to be working on my end

I'll try with some other mods

I think it's TooManyEmotes

[pine obsidian]

I can test without it

will send results

yes without too many emotes the cracks appear

used a test modpack with a fresh install

will add too many emotes now

definitely too many emotes

[carmine wren]

not sure why it's only the crack that does this

raindrops and crack both use the same camera check

[pine obsidian]

it used to work in the past, not sure if maybe too many emotes updated

i checked the OnlyMainCamera config option on both true and false and still the rain works but the cracks dont

[carmine wren]

that option doesn't affect cracks only rains

[pine obsidian]

just incase

[elfin locust]

Toomanyemotes did get an update really recently

I wonder why it's conflicting tho

[carmine wren]

did rollback and same thing happened

then it might be because of something I did

have some guesses so I'm going to try them

[keen spoke]

Dang that’s awesome

[hallow dagger]

Why did you decide to go with a texture for blood instead of something similar to droplets, but less shiny/transparent?

[carmine wren]

I can do that if I just swap shader I'm using to draw on screen

I just needed to figure out a way to draw decals on screen

[carmine wren]

can't tell if it looks better or not

[carmine wren]

crack problem's sorted in local build

I didn't know I'm supposed avoid using constructor with monobehaviour

[solar lagoon]

Can you make a setting to adjust the time it takes for the droplets to dissappear?

[carmine wren]

oh sure

[carmine wren]

But because of how solver works now, it should only have effect on 'after' rain has been occluded (inside factory, under roof, etc.)

Would that be good enough

[solar lagoon]

Yeah thats exactly what I was talking about

[carmine wren]

0.4.0 + 0.4.1

` changes

• Added blood splatter effect (Very primitive at the moment).
• Added an option to make raindrops last longer before fully disappearing.
• Fixed crack effect not showing with certain mods.
• Fixed blood splatter not scaling accurately.
• Added blood splatter self option.
• Added randomness to splatter position.
  `
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Woecust/Immersive_Visor/

[strong hare]

very minor but i assume thats a typo lol

[carmine wren]

I missed that for whole 4 months wow

thanks

[strong hare]

Happens

I've been waiting a long time for the blood splatter effect. Cant wait to try it out with my friends later

[carmine wren]

But reports are welcome

Since I never do multiplayer test

btw, 0.4.1 version is not there on r2modman yet, will have to download it manually from thunderstore atm

I forgot to add CauseOfDeath check for damage/blood.

[oblique spoke]

Very sexy

[carmine wren]

I really should've checked more before pushing the update.
self splatter before 0.4.1 is locked into center and it looks horrible.

[white kraken]

Im sorry but the blood looks really cheesy, love the mod tho

[carmine wren]

I would appreciate feedback on what I could change from it

[white kraken]

I was expecting something more similer to the rain with it splattering onto the screen more fluidly, although idk how hard that would be to add

[carmine wren]

I can try but can't gaurantee performance. Along with I won't have much control over how splatter would be shaped other than being blobby

[hallow dagger]

Kind of what I said before. However it doesn't have to be as elaborate as rain. No need for it running down the visor or anything like that.

[white kraken]

maybe somthing like that as a toggleable in the config

[hallow dagger]

Can't you make current splatter have similar refraction to droplets?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=710194284

This is what I have in mind.

[carmine wren]

I can try

[hallow dagger]

Configs can be even more annoying to add, not to mention having to maintain more stuff. It's not really a solution.

[carmine wren]

With current decals, rendering the same as rain didn't turn out well. Hence the current method. But if I don't drow decal as just flat map it may turn out well

[hallow dagger]

Umm

[carmine wren]

Oh btw, I'm not a programmer

[hallow dagger]

Visor rim broke again.

[carmine wren]

I mainly to modeling and texturing

Again?

[carmine wren]

I changed some shader params so that might be why

[hallow dagger]

Is that in regards to config or shaders?

[carmine wren]

Both

I programmed for less than 6 months.
So don't expect much from a person like me

[hallow dagger]

You're damn good for "not a programmer" then.

Think splatters are a bit wide too.

Honestly they're not that bad. It's just that rain is so good looking, that it makes them look not as good in comparison.

[carmine wren]

Maybe I should just buy ultrawide monitor.

[hallow dagger]

🤣

[carmine wren]

Anyway, in the next update, I'll try to go from drawing the whole splatter to splattering drops on screen

[keen spoke]

So what version is best for ultrawide users atm

[carmine wren]

0.3.X

I'll just fix it now

[keen spoke]

Thanks! I haven’t gotten around to giving the new stuff a good test yet

Most of my Lethal Company time as of late has been working on my modpack lol

[carmine wren]

Always end up like that with games with mods

[hallow dagger]

Mod for dozens of hours, play for a couple of minutes.

Nothing more satisfying than seeing everything finally working together.

[keen spoke]

fr

Unfortunately it’s been a bit chaotic lately

Lots of new moons/interiors releasing

Trying to wait to post a “definitive version” is kinda pointless

As new mods keep releasing, old mods update and announce new things, etc

[white kraken]

im getting pretty close

to finishing mine

just wanna make sure it has good performance

so im fixing errors and ditching mods

sad I had to ditch masked ai revamp

just too buggy

[keen spoke]

I’ve been working on v4 of my modpack for so long

[white kraken]

just updated and why is the rim soo wide now

[oblique spoke]

yup can confirm from my end as well

[hallow dagger]

So it's not even an ultrawide issue.

[carmine wren]

Got no clue why those didn't appear on my end

[oblique spoke]

I guess so

[carmine wren]

I've got an idea but like what is going on with mine

[oblique spoke]

you want me to send you my codes @carmine wren ?

[carmine wren]

It's fine