Scoopys Variety Mod (formerly LethalExtension)

[floral bloom]

I always forget this mod adds the Weezer guitar

[deep moss]

i wish i could forget

[floral bloom]

It’s so funny to randomly just hear it play through the walls

[deep moss]

🙂

[floral bloom]

Does the fire axe still do 4x damage

Than a shovel

[deep moss]

does it???

_>

[granite flicker]

And then you have SCP which is simultaneously big but still cramped, yet fully lit everywhere lol

[floral bloom]

Modded interiors struggle with light amounts

I’ve noticed

[timber basin]

for me at least it's precaution about performance, given every light is dynamic I don't want to overdo them

[normal quest]

lights are always the plight of mods in games - alot of people new to gamedev or modding really dont know how expensive lighting is

and since LC uses HDRP we're double fucked with lighting

[remote helm]

Will adjust the weights for lights see if that helps

[normal quest]

if you have multiple lights in a room try to have only one thats the primary shadow caster

or as few as possible

[normal quest]

@nova lake did you have a reliable way to test light values in editor or did you just mess around with the unity inspector tool thiny

[nova lake]

I would normally just change things in unity and try it in game

Could also use unityexplorer lc mod

[normal quest]

yee gotcha

[mental jungle]

how close are we to the sewer dungeon 👀

[native abyss]

atleast 1

[mental jungle]

1 week/

[native abyss]

atleast 2

2 what? you will never know

[granite flicker]

3, take it or leave it

[vestal spire]

damn, you drive a hard bargain

4 it is

[nova lake]

nah its looking more like 15

[graceful whale]

It could, but then you have to get every single mod dev to discuss how to fix the eight billion incompatibilities instead of having the one guy handle it cuz he knows his code and knows what's breaking. Shrug, I am really glad for what AdvancedCompany has done, and basically every feature in it is disable-able if you don't like it

[jaunty flame]

Advanced company is the most boring mod since its pretty much just a cheat disguised as a mod

Does not do much to enhance the gameplay

[graceful whale]

I'm sorry what? A cheat disguised as a mod? Lmao

Idk how you even got that but okay lol

I'm not even gonna ask you to explain cuz that's just wild to me and I am too tired for it, it's 3am

[slow hemlock]

dungeon has positions with an item group

then game finds them all and puts a scrap from that group onto

[sly current]

same thing happened to me yesterday lmao

[bronze prairie]

What is bro waffling about

[jaunty flame]

It makes the game way too easy whats so hard to understand lol

Tried it out for a week and it just feels in the way

[neat edge]

is there any hope that lockpickers being unretrievable from dropping inside of walls/out of bounds after being used on a big wooden dungeon door will get a fix sometime soon? I love this interior theme, just a shame it swallows any lockpickers I use in it 😭

[silver stirrup]

Fellow lockpicker enjoyer I feel your pain, the void hungers for our trusty lockpickers, Scoopy needs to update the positioning for the doors so they don't go under the map 😢

[tropic night]

This mod isn't compatible with mimics yet, is it?

[granite flicker]

the door ones that eat you? no they use an entirely seperate model

as far as I know I think the only interior mod that incorporates them might be the MoreInteriors mod?

don't quote me on that though I just see the regular fire exits

[crimson pilot]

im pretty sure the mimics creator said it wont work on modded interiors

[tropic night]

Damn. I figured as much 😂 can you imagine running up on a normal fire exit in this dungeon?

[granite flicker]

interesting, welp there ya go lol

[tropic night]

That sucks, but completely understandable

[nova lake]

any pog artists want to make some art to go on banners in the dungeon

i was thinking like a tentacle to go with the eldritch horror theme of the game

[rare olive]

My artist skills go no further than microsoft paint, so if you want scuffed art i'll try something

[granite flicker]

what style are you looking for? pixelart style? Sharp illustrations?

i.e. sort of like how red hook designs theirs?

[nova lake]

yeah something like that would be good

idk i dont have anything too specific in mind. probably not pixel art. sort of like a simplistic sigil style design

[tropic night]

Keep it on a similar art style that the dungeon uses

insert image of pastel pink cookie in Dracula's dungeon

[granite flicker]

not sure how that would translate to 2d art

[granite flicker]

tried recreatin a vector version of these but then I realized I'm garbage at graphic design lol

just some banners in minecraft that feel pretty ominous/ tendrilly

[bronze prairie]

Then disable all the shit that makes it feel too easy? Lol

The mod is highly configurable

While still at its base level able to replace multiple other mods while having better implementation

[mental jungle]

i have been thinking of adding it to my main pack but I will have to remove and reconfiguire so many damn mdso

im happy iwth what I have rn

[fiery matrix]

my only beef with advancedcompany is it fuckin with the terminal

may not be a problem once I finally port to LLL, but

[graceful whale]

It no longer fucks with the terminal at all :3

[bronze prairie]

It literally doesn't anymore

[graceful whale]

They moved all their code to their own Portable Terminal

[bronze prairie]

Hasn't for a while

[fiery matrix]

Oh shit

well that saves me from some headache lmao

[graceful whale]

All you gotta do is press X and you can pull up everything you need from AdvancedCompany

Yuuup

PotatoePet is amazing at ensuring compatibility and figuring out issues

And will almost always fix it if it can be fixed on his end

[fiery matrix]

yeah no that's really cool of them to do

[bronze prairie]

Yeah they were trying to spruce up the terminal and when they were getting reports of it breaking shit they started to remove their code and make their own little thing

I like the terminal

Whats so bad about it

[graceful whale]

Eh, idk what to tell ya, it's better than what several other mods do which is inevitably break the terminal by trying to mess with it

Plus, all the perks being on individual terminals means people don't end up lining up for the terminal whenever quota is met cuz "MUH PERKS"

[bronze prairie]

Eh

[graceful whale]

It's honestly really funny seeing everyone whip out their terminals after quota

[bronze prairie]

He could still have a perks command on the main one but oh well

[jaunty flame]

i dont know why every fan of ac has to argue to death for that mod

some people just dont like it

[bronze prairie]

?

No one is arguing?

[graceful whale]

We weren't tho, just stating that it's compatible with something else lmao

[bronze prairie]

Pretty civil discussion

[graceful whale]

We were just curious why Matt didn't like it, he said "IDK", we said okay lmao

[bronze prairie]

He has a github now

[jaunty flame]

yeah that doesnt help lol

[bronze prairie]

Got tired if his channel being flooded and not able to keep up with all of it

[graceful whale]

^

Github fixes that issue

Now if people report a bug he's like "here's the link, go report it there"

[bronze prairie]

Also yeah he's got a bit of an ego which can be off-putting and difficult to work with lol

[graceful whale]

Cuz so many people like to report bugs without giving any info like the logs and whatnot

[bronze prairie]

You're right

[graceful whale]

He's also just tired, he works several hours a day for free on this and gets a LOT of complaints from the community, a lot of which he's already fixed

So you can imagine his frustration

[bronze prairie]

Bro is pretty fed up lol

[graceful whale]

Not saying I haven't seen him get pretty heated at times, cuz it happens, and he's admitted to it before

But I love his work and respect the sheer amount of time and effort he puts into it regardless

You can't say that for very many mod devs, so the ones that do get my respect, if I report a bug and he's capable of fixing it it's literally fixed within like 24 hours

[bronze prairie]

Also yeah this SUCKED

Starting a new game with 3 inventory slots and being like yeah yall gotta go into the perks menu one at a time and add another slot 😭

That was before I realized I could increase it to 4 in the config menu but defualt

[graceful whale]

It's so funny when you're in the 1500+ quotas and everyone just whips out their Lethal Company iPad now after visiting the company to level up their skill tree

[bronze prairie]

Lmao

[graceful whale]

I have to spend all the Ship XP points or else they'll spend it on garbage like "Scan Node Distance"

Bro get the item saving and discount perks pls

I wanna go to Rend for only 300

[deep moss]

Does anyone know exactly how much damage the axe does?

[native abyss]

2 iirc

[bronze prairie]

I've heard 4

[neat edge]

and the axe DOES in fact benefit from lategame upgrade's protein powder btw. Still haven't done exact tests to figure out if it receives a multiplication bonus of its base damage or if it's a flat additive 1 damage (not sure how lategame coded it but if they did a multiplier with a shovel base damage of 1 the shovel damage bonus would function the same so could be either) but I can attest personally fireaxe is affected by protein powder which is awesome

[merry tapir]

YOOOOOO

I was wondering that

[atomic light]

are these intended ?
can we say its part of the dungeon lore that the items are collecting dust 😂

[fervent blaze]

holy shit they leave imprints on the floor? i never noticed lmao

that's so funny

[silk crescent]

Some AC hater just been 💀💀lol

[hollow kernel]

Huh?

[silk crescent]

A little bit too stringent I think

[acoustic cloak]

I think it's additive, if you look at the way it's coded it is supposed to add 1 point of damage for each level of the perk

So the shovel does 1, the axe does 4, by default.

That's how I was shown it

[floral bloom]

Man the jump in that one room is hard

I can’t tell you how many times people have died to it

[floral bloom]

??

[nova lake]

next update is coming along nicely

likely release before/on the weekend

pretty huge update, hella bug fixes and improvements, new rooms for dungeon, and initial release of sewer

[floral bloom]

Man I really need to start on my interior I’m just afraid of starting because of how big a task it is lmao

Grats on sewer

[nova lake]

yeah ive spent alottt of my free time in blender lately lol

[languid nexus]

Same. It's noticeably harder to make that jump than the ones in the default facility.

[zinc sigil]

What's your interior idea 👀

[languid nexus]

He wants to make a mine themed interior

There's an ideas thread for it

[floral bloom]

At this rate somebody is gonna make it before me lol

[floral bloom]

For the blender parts is there anything specific I should do when making rooms or can I just get the scavenger model for size reference and cook

[nova lake]

you can cook your rooms only have to work with your other rooms

scaling matters but easily fixed in unity

if its off

[floral bloom]

So the entrances just sorta have to line up or whatever

[nova lake]

dungen is pretty good though, one piece of advise is try keep all doorways 90 degrees from eachother, in my experience dungen doesnt like non 90 degree doorways

yep ideally your entrances would be the same size

[floral bloom]

I’m assuming you have them all in 1 blend file

[nova lake]

yea

i made alot of mine in unity editor

more complex ones i did in blender

likely going to remake them all in blender at some point though

[floral bloom]

I’m probably gonna do all in blender due to having more experience there

[mental jungle]

lets go

[silver stirrup]

Scoopy please, please tell me I can use my lockpickers without them going into the backrooms

[nova lake]

nope i actually made them more likely to dissapear

just because fuck lockpick enjoyers specifically

[silver stirrup]

😭😭

[floral bloom]

I should make my dungeon with no doors so lockpickers can’t do anything

[glad prairie]

any bugs?

[silver stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

[mental jungle]

lol

[silver stirrup]

Yeah I found a hoarder bug and I guess a snare flea counts too

[floral bloom]

I was actually debating on doing this as well a cave / mine doesn’t really have doors

[glad prairie]

☹️

[mental jungle]

of course therte are bugs

in any software

there are bugs

[glad prairie]

not really, everything has bugs yeah but some are game breaking

like, mod spawns being weird and game lagging to 1 fps arent same level bugs

well kinda

but those are the bugs most people talk about

idk if people really care if a door is offset by like 2 inches

[zinc sigil]

Since we're playing the semantic game, I believe what you meant to ask is: "is it stable"

/s

[glad prairie]

oh hi grandpa

stop following me on discord its embarrasing 😦

[zinc sigil]

But those picture you post in that strange anime chatroom with the tentacles is very disturbing. Please come home. We miss you. Your father is worried

-xoxo gramps

[dire harbor]

Hey @nova lake , would it be alright for me to use a screenshot of the dungeon interior on my modpack page, provided I give credit to you and the mod?

Specifically this one
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Easyidle123/Easyidles_Quality_Moons/

[worldly lance]

ive been getting a issue where me and my friends have different interiors whenever we go to a moon

sometimes ill have a facility and my other friend will get mansion inside of the moon

last time i used this it was with the scplab mod and my other friends all got the dungeon interior and ended up spawning outside of the dungeon and falling to their death and i dont know what causing it

[slow hemlock]

Gotta sync your configs

[worldly lance]

hopefully not this

oh ok

[tidal stump]

yeah u can do that by using the profile code feature

iirc that syncs configs as well

[nova lake]

That's cool boss

[dire harbor]

Alright, thanks!

[nova lake]

more sewer screenshots

[native abyss]

she sewer on my scoopy til i variety mod

[hollow kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[neat edge]

are those hl2 explosive barrels? lmaoooooooooo

[nova lake]

nah theyre barrels from a cheap asset pack i bought

[atomic light]

my failing eyes cant see the barrels LOL

nice work tho

[amber oar]

you don,t need lethalcore with this anymore?

[rustic shuttle]

i don't think this ever required lethalcore

[amber oar]

it did at one point

[strong gust]

iirc it was LethalLib, now it's LethalLevelLoader (which requires LethalLib anywho)

LECore is (mostly) needed if you wanted to run with modded moons too, most are built depending on LE

One of the most common moons I see paired up with Scoopy's is, Atlas Abyss, which happens to be one of the very few LLL moons

[neat edge]

scoopy, will this get fixed before the new sewer tileset comes out? Or maybe along side it? 😊

[austere zephyr]

Hey I have an issue with the fire exits. I use the Mimic mod and since Dungeon uses a custom Fire Exit asset it makes things uncompatible. My suggestion is to allow players to replace the custom fire exit with vanilla fire exit via the config file.

[crimson pilot]

it still wouldnt work

mimic mod just doesnt spawn in custom interiors

on purpose im pretty sure

[mental jungle]

im pretty sure they do

I have seen them

wait fire exits mimic

or player mimics

[crimson pilot]

fire exits

[merry tapir]

I'll keep that in mind, thank you

[violet mason]

Sorry if it's already been brought up, Discord's search functionality for threads is awful. Have you considered splitting up the major features into separate mods? Variety mods have always been a big turn-off to me. I think mod packs are better suited for that sort of thing.

[smoky stag]

they look awesome

i feel like the sewers may be a tad dark tho, it looks like a normal floor after you take out the apparatus

i love the dungeon mod but my friends dont cuz of how crazy dark it is

[floral bloom]

Config files exist

[crimson pilot]

isnt this why configs exist

[crimson pilot]

true.............

[violet mason]

They sure do, but I expect most people do not use configs and I'd rather just download what I want to use than need to go in and configure it.

[floral bloom]

Doesn’t really take much time or effort

[violet mason]

If you say so. By the sounds of it, this mod is probably going to get pretty big, though, and I don't like the idea of downloading the content for 4 different interiors and a couple dozen items if I only want to use one interior or something.

[crimson pilot]

that sounds like not the mod creator's problem

[slow hemlock]

I think it's a valid question that would have a valid answer either way

[violet mason]

As a mod creator, I don't really agree. I'm not saying they need to, but it may very well affect whether I use it in the future and I am voicing my opinion regardless.

[mental jungle]

Yea maybe he could release a separate version for those who wants it, and 1 main one that packages them all together

[mental jungle]

Same here needs to add more lights

[smoky stag]

yeah the dungeons just too dark for me tbh, more ligths would fix em compeltely

[mental jungle]

Exactly

It’s hard to appreciate the dungeon when you can’t see it

[smoky stag]

sewers look crazy dark too, even tho the screenshots looks awesome, there is no light in there lol

like always no apparatus mode

[mental jungle]

Yea lol might just be the area he is in

[crimson pilot]

would you prefer, for example, every item in lethal things was its own mod?

[smoky stag]

naw theres lights in here, look how little they are actually lighting up the place

needs a very solid brightness increase, or at least a config option imo

[mental jungle]

Yea it would literally be no light without a flash light

It’s just walking in pitch black tunnels

[smoky stag]

also the way the doors jostle you around is sorta annoying on dungeon

[violet mason]

No. There are lines to be drawn within reason. I do think a full interior is a good candidate for that line.

[crimson pilot]

Why not though?

Lots of the items in lethal things are quite different

some serious some non serious

[slow hemlock]

because dungeons are one big chunk of themed content

its easy to split

[violet mason]

Well, to be frank I don't know what's in Lethal Things. Maybe they're distinct enough, but I don't know.

[mental jungle]

True

[mental jungle]

Yell

[crimson pilot]

The only reason you'd want them to be seperated into different mods is for download space

[mental jungle]

Yep

[crimson pilot]

there is no other actual valid reason for it

[slow hemlock]

the other valid reason is if i don't want that content

period

[crimson pilot]

But if you're running low on space that is important

[crimson pilot]

Then disable it with a config

😁

[slow hemlock]

im aware thats an option

theres multiple solutions to the same problem mate

some prefer different ones

[mental jungle]

Not every one is tech savvy they see true false statements and are like hell nah

[crimson pilot]

Multiple solutions can have multiple levels of effectiveness

Configs are just better

[slow hemlock]

and outright not having the content downloaded is a pretty definitive solution

[crimson pilot]

That only matters for download space like I said

[mental jungle]

There’s 0 harm In giving the option

[crimson pilot]

which is the only good reason

[slow hemlock]

@crimson pilot so if you had infinite harddrive space, you would have no issue with all moons and dungeons being in a single file?

you could config it after all

[mental jungle]

Yea

[crimson pilot]

If it was a single file it wouldnt work

[slow hemlock]

why not

[mental jungle]

That’s not the point of what he’s trying to say anyway

It’s the principle

[crimson pilot]

Can the model for the moon have the code for it in the same file?

[slow hemlock]

yes

[crimson pilot]

then sure

as long as the code is optimized

correctly done

[mental jungle]

Also once scoops starts adding more interiors it will get annoying to disable all of them

[slow hemlock]

and if lethal company had all of zeekers other games bundled in

[crimson pilot]

although I'd assume no one would ever do that

[slow hemlock]

and you had to pick which one you wanted on the main menu

you'd be fine with that?

[violet mason]

Throw in Skyrim while we're at it, I suppose.

[crimson pilot]

yea

infinite file space

[mental jungle]

Ur def trolling

[crimson pilot]

what

as long as I dont have to purchase the other games

I genuinely dont care

[violet mason]

It's okay if you don't care, but I'm not sure why you need to be a voice of opposition if you don't care.

[crimson pilot]

Im not saying I dont care about this whole idea of splitting the mod into different mods

Im saying I wouldnt care about a few extra clicks to load lethal company

[mental jungle]

I hat

[crimson pilot]

and I wouldnt mind downloading this mod if it was split into multiple

but its already one mod

and it has a config file

and if its not a variety mod anymore he'd have to reupload it (for thunderstore atleast)

which ultimately doesnt matter

but is a bit annoying

[violet mason]

I will say, one thing that the current state has affected is the searchability of the mod. I discovered it through watching someone play the mod. I didn't know what it was called, so my first instincts were to search for "Dungeon" and "Castle" on the mod distribution website. Skimming through, neither of those results lead me to the mod (It was on the results for the page of "Dungeon", but I over-looked it since the title didn't make me think of the mod). I ended up doing some external searching to find it. As more variety content gets added to the mod, that's only going to get worse.

[crimson pilot]

Thats the fault of the video creator too tho, as well as the name of the mod

video creator should have linked it

this mod should probably be named better

MoreInteriors is pretty straight forward

[violet mason]

It'd be great if credit was given, but when content creators are running like 30-40 mods these days, it does seem like a lot to keep track of.

[crimson pilot]

someone I watched just posts their mod profile in the description

and I just put every major mod seen in the video in my video descriptions

not really that hard

although Im not that big of a youtuber so maybe there is some pressure or smth idk

[rustic shuttle]

that's silly

[rustic shuttle]

that sounds great that's just free games

[rustic shuttle]

that's just laziness, 30-40 is hardly that much

[tropic night]

Cursed

[fiery matrix]

creating a bunch of seperate mods for different aspects of your mod is way more of a logistical problem than it sounds on face

the solution to "end users don't know how to use config files" is not "therefore make a bunch of seperate mods", the solution is "educate end users on how to use config files"

its really not that hard and you dont need to know how to read an if statement to do it lmao. Most people know what the words "true" and "false" mean. Well set up configs will within reason be intuitive

[violet mason]

I expect so, yeah. I was wondering if there was a particular reason for the mod to be made in this way, such as whether it might supplement Lethal Company (or its modding ecosystem) possibly having cross-mod compatibility issues.

In my case, it's not so much the (in)ability to configure it. I can. It's just the mentality of "I'm downloading a bunch of stuff that I don't want to for one feature". I don't think that's something I can really break away from. It can be worth it to download anyways, but it depends on a lot of factors. In the end, I'm more likely to download and install something that is specifically what I want to use. I like that feeling of modularity.

[fiery matrix]

I'd get this except ultimately none of these mods go past what, half a gig? this isnt really a practical enough problem to be worth the time and effort itd take to fix and support.

down to the individual modder of course; im sure some will do it anyway, and I've even stated that id be willing to make standalone versions of WTO's monsters if the demand was high enough

[violet mason]

Bandwidth does tend to be a factor for me. My location does not have high-speed internet.

Half a gig may not seem like much to you, but that's an hour of downloading for me.

[fiery matrix]

But like... WTO provides a great example. the code on one of the traps checks for the presence of a monster type and vice versa. Its fine if that monster doesnt spawn, IE is disabled via config, but if his code isnt present I now have to go through optional dependencies and a bunch of other overhead thats time better spent making the mod...

I mean even half a gig is a very generous number I'd hope. but idk I admit ive never had to worry about mod sizes this much

for LC. its not like youre download 4k texture packs here

[dire harbor]

In the end I think "everything" mods are just healthy for the community as long as they're well-made. Having individual mods is great, but things like GeneralImprovements are really nice to have because you know they'll always be compatible with themselves. Modpacks and mod profiles are always a patchwork, and the fewer things you can have intermingling while retaining the same features, the better

[fiery matrix]

I do for the record believe in making things easier for the end user in a lot of situations, but I think there needs to be a balance with making things not too difficult on the modder as well

conceptualizing a user friendly config setup and wording is honestly a task all of its own

[fervent blaze]

haven't played with the sewers yet, but it could have greenish lights spread around, giving some glow but it'd be still dark enough to not be "too bright to need a flashlight". it would also give a very different mood to the dungeon itself, which could be cool

[violet mason]

I thought about whether modpacks might be more suitable for something like this, but they probably aren't. I guess a different concept like a "meta mod" or some such that includes a number of mods and can be combined with others might be more useful. I don't think I've seen a concept like that really implemented in modding outside them getting combined into one big mod. That requires maintaining one more mod, though.

[dire harbor]

Libraries?

I guess that's a bit different

[fiery matrix]

Well here I guess ill put it like this. Lets say I make WTO into two mods, one thats everything and one thats just the monsters.

The mod that has everything will probably be fine, because, well, it has everything. The mod that has the monsters, though, if it say... checks for if a specific (custom) room exists on the map, and does something whether that room was found. Because that custom room is not included in the monsters-only mod, I now have to rewrite that monster to compensate. Now I have two versions of the same monster. Now some people will report having bugs with it and ill have to specify whether theyre using the everything mod or the monsters only mod. Now I have to sync two codebases and remember to update both with any changes. etc etc etc.
There are probably better ways around this that arent coming to mind immediately, but none of them are superior to just going up to the end user and saying "here, check this box if you want the custom rooms to spawn and uncheck it if you don't". Because that asset still exists behind the scenes and can still be referenced in the code, its just not as difficult to work with.

You then also have to deal with having multiple mods to update on thunderstore and two sets of patchnotes and all that

this is an extreme version of what im talking about, but the reason Mojang cites for why minecraft updates take so long is in large part because they have to test everything they implement in both java and bedrock, and write different code that needs to act the same, all that

[slow hemlock]

I think your example there is a little uncomparable to two different dungeons though

[violet mason]

Yeah, I probably wouldn't go that route personally. If I were to split it up, I'd probably make a "Monsters" mod and an "Everything else" mod and ensure compatibility, then investigate the ability to bundle them together. I'm not pretending that'd be trivial, and clearly I have no experience with Lethal Company modding, but I understand your point.

[fiery matrix]

Well sure, if you say don't have much crossplay between different aspects of your mod this is inherently a bit easier

[slow hemlock]

which is true in the context of this conversation

[fiery matrix]

You still have to deal with all the frontend headache

two thunderstore uploads and all

any code you mightve been able to share between the two now has to be segregated

[violet mason]

That does sound like good practice to me. But again, I'm a stickler for modularity.

[fiery matrix]

Maybe I want a feature in both of my custom dungeons where the lights can be toggled by the remote scrap. the custom light fixture I write for this now has to be in both codebases

[slow hemlock]

well again kinda no in this specific conversation

because your code is abstracted with your assetbundles

[fiery matrix]

huh? doesnt your code need to access your assetbundles?

[violet mason]

I suppose that's what libraries are for.

But yeah, more work to split up. I get it.

[slow hemlock]

could ship the dll as a core and make the bundles modular

[fiery matrix]

include the dll in both files but make one include one bundle and one include the other? I guess im a bit confused because if its the same dll itd still be trying to access both wouldnt it?

Like to my knowledge you cant include custom code in assetbundles

[slow hemlock]

Scoopys Variety Mod and/or ScoopysCore - .dll

Castle Dungeon Mod - .lethalbundle, dependant on Scoopys Variety Mod
Sewer Dungeon Mod - .lethalbundle, dependant on Scoopys Variety Mod

[fiery matrix]

But then wouldnt this theoretical light fixture need to be in both bundles?

that or one depends on the other

[violet mason]

I imagine it'd be present in ScoopysCore in their example.

[fiery matrix]

the code for it is present in the core, but the gameobject would have to be in one of or both of the bundles

[crimson pilot]

Scoopys Base, Core, or Library

[fiery matrix]

I guess unless you pack the asset into the dll which I hear is possible

[slow hemlock]

i get its an example but would this even be a problem

[fiery matrix]

that or I guess you have a core assetbundle that comes with the core dll. But that has its own problem; what if I only want the custom scrap from this dungeon? then I am downloading the light fixture for no reason

[fiery matrix]

I mean as long as we're taking any amount of bloat to be too much, yes. I do agree its otherwise trivial, besides the fact that this introduces more failure points for a im-kind-of-out-of-it-today-but-am-still-working programmer

that and again this system doesnt scale well to any kind of interplay between objects

[violet mason]

Some amount of bloat generally can't be helped. As I mentioned before, lines need to be drawn somewhere.

For me, that's major features.

[fiery matrix]

I suppose I'd say that itd make sense enough for the context of this mod as it exists right now, but not only should this not be a precident, it also ultimately causes more headache down the line if scoopy DOES decide things should interplay with each other somehow

to be clear @violet mason , I think "my download speeds suck" and the like are pretty good reasons to push for modularity, I do understand the argument there. I mainly took exception with what some people were saying about "not being techy enough for configs". Like sorry man hit the books on that

[violet mason]

I'd say the opposite. I think it'd be best if this became something people were mindful of.

[violet mason]

Which, I think it probably is? Honestly these big pack mods, I've seen maybe 2 of them in my whole life that I've cared enough about their content enough to say "Man, I wish these were split up"

[fiery matrix]

Most people if they like a content mod they like everything it includes

Like I said your case is a valid one for why things should be modular and I am not trying to downplay or negate it, but you must admit its relatively rare

[violet mason]

I get it. I only really meant to bring it up as a consideration for the developer. Whatever they do with it is up to them.

[fiery matrix]

Yeah thats fair if scoopy reads all this and decides "ill try to make it modular" more power to him

when I say "this shouldnt be a precident" I mainly mean I don't want people to expect this out of every modder because there are considerations they probably arent making because they dont do dev stuff themselves, was my main point

[silver stirrup]

Couldn't be more true to the point, Mikestweaks is a brilliant example of this, it has soo much bundled into it but has a bunch of top level config disables so you can cherry pick what you want from the mod, in my case that's item weight adjustments

[sand pumice]

hi, is it possible this error im getting loading into a modded moon is caused by this mod?

[slow hemlock]

no

[sand pumice]

ok, good to know. the error is probably because of the moon right?

oh wait.

uh right yea idk

nah this isnt an LLL issue right?

its an LE(c) moon

[slow hemlock]

mod author probably wants their environment navmeshsurface set to collect from current object hierchary

[amber oar]

Thank you for letting me know:)

[mental jungle]

sewer when 😝

[nova lake]

hopefully today

[bronze prairie]

on god???

fr fr???

[frozen bridge]

no way

[nova lake]

indeed

doing some final testing now

it is still early stages, there will be more rooms added (there is currently about 10 room types) but want to get it out there for bug testing

[nova lake]

possibly wont be releasing today, ended up finding an issue with sewer water not networking correctly that i need to fix

[bronze prairie]

😭

[remote helm]

happy to see it coming out 🙂 soon

[candid pulsar]

a what ?

[sand pumice]

this is so crazyyy

[candid pulsar]

this mod has variety

[nova lake]

update: my pc died lol I think power supply

so expect further delays :)))

[tropic night]

That's a shame bro

[mental jungle]

so today or in a few days?

[silk crescent]

@mental jungle his pc died

[mental jungle]

yea I can read

[silk crescent]

So won't be today

[balmy echo]

omg.... 😭

i was excited

[fervent blaze]

how dare you not have a second, spare pc so you can keep working on the mod without delays

in all seriousness though, hope everything goes smoothly. try to check if it really is the PSU before buying a new one, could be mobo or even cables

cable i had from the psu to the outlet just gave out on me one day. got a new 2$ cable and all was working again

[sand pumice]

current update working great right!

we love u

[slow hemlock]

i smashed scoopys pc in an intent to get new LLL update out before sewer

apologies

[atomic light]

[fervent blaze]

understandable, would've done the same

[tropic night]

https://tenor.com/view/lilo-and-stitch-stitch-gif-20281537

average interaction

[granite flicker]

damn, that's a shame. did you need assistance funding a replacement?

[nova lake]

nah im all good ty though lol

it was psu as i thought, just slapped a new one in and shes good

back to cooking

[silver stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[nova lake]

the time has come

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/scoopy/Scoopys_Variety_Mod/

sewer is out

(and dungeon changes)

for anyone playing, to be clear, it is an early version. there is not a ton of room variety (10 rooms total atm) and there is definitely some bugs

im hoping by getting it out there and getting bug reports so i can fix the major issues before moving on to more rooms

major issues right now are:

• sewer water does not make audio when you walk through it
• enemies can walk through doorways and turrets shoot through them (will be fixed soon)
• you will not be able to leave the facility via the main entrance with 2 handed scrap due to the ladder placed in the entrance room. you will need to find the fire exit for 2 handed scrap. i will likely add a staircase/other redesign of the room in future to address this, but for now youll just have to find a fire exit lol. i might even keep this yet if i decide i want to.
• enemies in general might be a bit jank

in future there will be an apparatus on this map, just havent made the room yet

ill also probably add some dim lights to the piping atm but havent decided whether i want to keep the darkness

sewer itself is very bright though

also vents float because curved rooms (i need to make a new model) and some rooms dont align properly

if you encounter any odd issues other than the ones mentioned above please post here with videos/screenshots if possible or console logs if they are relevant

i expect i will release a quick patch with all the issues i can fix in an afternoon tommorow

Also I will be adding a few more rooms to dungeon still when I get time

But for the most part it is done

[tropic night]

@nova lake If only mimics worked on custom moons

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[slow hemlock]

713 has mentioned finding time to work with me in getting that working with LLL

[tropic night]

so, possible mimics in the custom dungeons? B)

[slow hemlock]

Yeah

with custom models 😄

[timber basin]

with custom models would be pretty nuts

[tropic night]

That will go hard. Hope the 2 handed scraps are worth your life 😄

Good luck getting out of the sewer bub

Idea: Remove the ladder

main entrance should have a chance to collapse per entry

[crimson pilot]

sewer bracken

[rustic shuttle]

sewer looks really good so far! there does seem to be odd purple textures at the bottom of some rooms though

incompatible with oopsallflooded though

[nova lake]

I suspected that would be the case because we both patch flood stuff

I tried to avoid that though, likely something I can fix on my end just haven't had time to look at it

[nova lake]

Also can you send a screenshot of purple textures?

[rustic shuttle]

oh it's not a crash or anything, it's just the entire dungeon is inaccessible because the water starts just a little below the main entrance door

[nova lake]

Ohhhh that makes sense actually hahaha

[rustic shuttle]

not right now, but there was purple wood textures on the floor in one big pipe room. similar to the poison water in dine

[coarse plinth]

I had an issue with the flood problem, over Aquatis but i do not have the mod "oopsallflooded"

[coarse plinth]

Same issue

[rustic shuttle]

oh. hm

[coarse plinth]

And for me it's actually the whole map Aquatis that is being under the water

[nova lake]

I didn't test on any modded moons so could be incompatibilities I need to solve

Does it happen every time

[coarse plinth]

I tried two time and it did not happen.. what

[slow hemlock]

wouldn't be 100% suprised if some modded moons don't understand how to set up their flood values

haven't seen many people talk about it

[coarse plinth]

When i checked the terminal moon list when it happened, Aquatis wasn't on "Flooded" not sure if it can help

[rustic shuttle]

it happened to me on clear experimentation

[coarse plinth]

Do you use Brutal Company mod? Out of curiosity, i removed the mod right after having the flooded issue

[rustic shuttle]

nah

[vivid glen]

I died like a real hero

Inverse teleported into the sewers

Got shot through a wall

turned a corner and got gassed and gnawed on by a puffer

[crimson pilot]

oh yeah btw, idk if it's intentional or not, but you can parkour your way up here if you jump on the pipes on the pump

honestly more satisfying than if there were a ladder right here

[coarse plinth]

Got it again, but no errors on logs

I just kept landing and orbiting Aquatis for the 3 days of deadline and the flood appeared on the last day, another time it appeared on the second day right after an Eclipse

I also tried to 9999 the weight of Sewers interior but it did not make the flood appear more often 🤷‍♂️

[tropic night]

Is the dungeon supposed to be spawning water?

could be flooded mod tweaking but

It wasnt flooded

nevermind its Oops tweaking

[nova lake]

Boss you made the room 😭😭

Yeah oopsallflooded will flood the facility weird because of how it positions floodwater

[crimson pilot]

I couldn't test it because that's your thing 😆

[tropic night]

LethalLib update seems to have broken OopsAllFlooded

[crimson pilot]

and in the updated version (of the blender file), there's a spot for ladders on the tanks :P
but it looks like it wasn't noticed by you lol, but no worries

[tropic night]

we're having floods on default weather

[nova lake]

Oop my bad lol

[nova lake]

Without my mod or with?

[tropic night]

Happening in vanilla dungeon

doubt yours is causing it to flood

day 1 is dry, then it tweaks out day 2

we're just disabling it for now

[floral bloom]

Cuhhh so foolish

[tropic night]

Was the original dungeon replaced by the sewer or is it bundled in?

Holy shit its dark

[rain temple]

feedback: turrets are too strong on sewer interior i suggest to disable them on sewer interior or add something you can hide behind

idk if its bug or intended but my map was flooded (in terminal it shows no weather) and i think it is caused by sewer interior

[nova lake]

Both are bundled

[tropic night]

Alright, I'll have to look at the configs and figure that out

I don't necessarily want it to spawn on the starter moons 😂

[west gull]

I’m guessing the sewer is very wip?

I went through and thought a lot of visual choices are odd and the pathing for enemies is a little wack

[zinc sigil]

Will you make an apparatus toggle in the config? I feel like it doesn't fit the aesthetic

[shell hornet]

Sewer apparatus a giant drain plug

[floral bloom]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1Pl1UhJGRbKfYP/d1337QeBENQt?invite=cr-MSxxSG4sMTA0MDA2OTc5LA

[midnight ember]

can you share the bigger chat mod

[floral bloom]

BetterChat iirc

[midnight ember]

ty

[long grove]

same

I dont have any flooded mods tho

[smoky stag]

@nova lake new sewers are badass

fire exit area where you parkour on pipes is a little too dark to do anything without a flashlight

but otherwsie damn cool interior

i went down main ladder at entrance to 2 turrets, which was very funny

[glass wedge]

to get no castle interior to spawn i just make the moons blank right?

[wary sandal]

whats the point of downloading the mod then

[smoky stag]

to get the sewers lol

dungeon interior way too dark imo

sewers lighting much improved

[tepid palm]

i keep getting this error [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Stack trace:
GrabbableObject.FallWithCurve () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_00A0)
GrabbableObject.Update () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_011B) its prob cuz im in a big mod pack

[wary sandal]

i kinda like the dungeon tho

it fits with atlas abyss map

[smoky stag]

i like the room designs and aestetics a lot

but its still way too dark

[glass wedge]

I dont use atlas abyss and just want the sewers i like them

[smoky stag]

being forced to run a pro flashlight and not inverse tele cuz u cant see anything sucks

[wary sandal]

i play with AC, the headlamp does fine in the dungeon but i understand

[smoky stag]

yea i dont use those kind of mods

the dungeon is about as dark as a normal interior when you pull out the apparatus, which it shouldnt be

[sand pumice]

What moons do you use?

(And, do you think atlas abyss is balanced?)

[wary sandal]

aquatis and atlas abyss and i forgot the other one last time i played

aquatis, hell. if ur outside

atlas abyss, it wasnt too bad

[sand pumice]

Yeah, I decided I don’t want aquatis personally

[sand pumice]

Orion or egypt?

[wary sandal]

i plan to reinstall aquatis once the underwater dungeon one releases

[wary sandal]

i think it was the orion? it was a desert

my friends died before even going to the pymarid in the distance

they missed a jump and died like goobers

[sand pumice]

Probably egypt if there are pyramids :P

[wary sandal]

yeah it was e gypt

my bad

[sand pumice]

Herm, I just dk what moons to use rn

[wary sandal]

just dont use starlancer

ur FPS dies immediately once u leave the ship

[sand pumice]

Starlancer is a hard moon

[sand pumice]

Good to know. Pretty sure nostromo does something similar

[wary sandal]

i like USC vortex moon, cause u land on a actual ship

but its using LE and not LLL

so i removed it, which is sad

[sand pumice]

Does aquatis not use LE too?

[wary sandal]

aquatis also uses LE

so i removed it last time i played

[sand pumice]

O have you tried Generic Moons? It’s 1 mod that adds 4 moons and is surprisingly quick to load

They’re really good

[wary sandal]

no i haven't, everyone seem to be on the LLL train so i stopped using any moons that had LE in them

[kindred grove]

after playing 1 round on sewers we got this

https://i.imgur.com/zZ7XTis.png

water in the orbit, water in the company building

[winged blaze]

well that's unfortunate 😆

(not a bug report, it was probably the OopsAllFlooded mod acting up)

[sand pumice]

Do you have oopsallflooded?

[kindred grove]

nope

i heard lethal lib is completely broken now

[main orbit]

same happened to us right now 😂

[kindred grove]

probably related to that

gonna downgrade to previous version and check

i have general improvements broken as well for some reason

something is really screwed up

[main orbit]

too

infinite deadline

[kindred grove]

i downgraded lethal lib

it didn't help

i'm not even sure now what exacly breaks everything

[main orbit]

just got shot by turret through tank texture in sewers

[kindred grove]

looks like i have bunch of mods broken completely

general improvements, enhanced radar booster (failing to sync configs), bunch of other netcode errors

i wonder which mod screwed up my game like that

i downgraded lethal lib, but it didn't help

[sand pumice]

Downgrade lethal lib 2 versions instead, I believe evaisa recently published an update that tried to fix it

But it might have not done the job

[kindred grove]

i'm at 0.13.2 now

still the same

[sand pumice]

That version should be good

[kindred grove]

yep

but looks like whole netcode is broken as hell

we had items pickup desyncs, doors unlocking desyncs, config desyncs and bunch of other fun stuff

whole game is falling apart

now i wonder which mod is responsible for that

[sand pumice]

Id suggest making sure everyone has 0.13.2 but you’ve probably already done that :(

[kindred grove]

yep, synced modpack by code

[sand pumice]

It really seems like an issue caused by lethal lib yeah

Ok

[pseudo lake]

LL has had some issues recently, it may be acting up again

[sand pumice]

Can you send your modlist as a text file (copy and paste your dependencies list?)

(Dependencies list should be found in settings?)

[kindred grove]

https://pastebin.com/c9N1EHXf

some mods listed there is disabled - physics items, friend patches, cull factory, skibidi toilet, diversity, chillax scraps, control company

[sand pumice]

Lethal escape disabled or no?

[kindred grove]

no

[sand pumice]

Also uncertain company?

Was dat :P

[kindred grove]

enabled

hiding weather, randomizing item and (sometimes) moon prices

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MaxWasUnavailable/UncertainCompany/

[sand pumice]

Try disabling LC Office since it’s really in an early beta atm

But besides that I’m really not sure :( sorry

[kindred grove]

is there any way to run two instances of the game at once?

for debug

so i can disable mods one by one and check

[sand pumice]

Not with mods :( I wish tho

[timber basin]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1184708473800364083

[sand pumice]

O

[timber basin]

^ works with mods

[sand pumice]

Ignore me then

Ik you can execute the game exe file twice but I didn’t know about anything being possible with modded LC

That is crazy useful I shall be doing that

[kindred grove]

i just disabled all the custom dungeons and LLL

gonna test now

at least i will know if it's related or not

nope

it's not related

it's something else

still the same netcode errors

i really don't know

it's either general improvements itself or some other random mod

it's so damn easy to break entire netcode for this game

i wish everyone used same API instead of screwing around 😦

okay, so i think it's 3 separate bugs

in 3 separate mods

and flooded company building belongs to this mod

broken general improvements screens is their own bugs that just got fixed

not sure what to think about items desync tho

lethal company modding sometimes makes me want to ragequit

[glass wedge]

it is most likely lethal lib, i have quite a few of the same mods and others disabled and re-enabled but it doesn't change anything so hopefully they fix it soon

[civic fern]

hey I see it's been mentioned in here so I want to add on that we're having the same issue, we're constantly stuck with every moon and ship flooded since the sewer was added, too

[kindred grove]

i downgraded lethal lib to previous unbroken version, that didn't help much

really weird bugs

[glass wedge]

hmmm it could be the variety mod its self

causeing an error with levels causeing it to flood

[civic fern]

we thought it could possibly be because of the water in the sewers themselves because as long as we don't get the sewer we are completely fine with no flooding

[kindred grove]

i guess i'll disable sewer for now, before it will be patched

[kindred grove]

interesting

disabling BetterSprayPaint just fixed nasty bug with other dungeon mod, MoreInteriors

i wonder if same thing can happen with sewers

[fiery drum]

so is the sewer dungeon whats causing the flooding at the company building?

[kindred grove]

yes, at least it's related somehow

do you have BetterSprayPaint by any chance?

[fiery drum]

no i dont

[kindred grove]

well

then it's vanilla bug in this mod

[dire harbor]

You can try with LethalExpansionCore, I've gotten Aquatis and most other LE moons to work with it. You can even use LLL interiors on those moons

[exotic verge]

While playing the sewer dungeons i was using a lockpick tool on the lock door which the lockpick will go straight to the iron bars or between the both doors and just drops in the middle of the water which wont work was going to take a picture until a bracken went through the wall from the other side and kill me where i think he just went through from the iron bars.

[south parcel]

I love drink water with my scraps

[nova lake]

I'll look into the permanent flooding issue and see if it's on my end

[solid relic]

Also can confirm it's setting water plane across all instances too.

[dire harbor]

Apparently this bug is happening even without OopsAllFlooded

[solid relic]

Sewers is setting waterplane across all instances, sure scoopy will fix it soon.

[dire harbor]

Oh, gotcha

I thought it was a mod incompatibility

[solid relic]

Nah jsut a bug with sewers atm

[obtuse mulch]

Does disabling Sewers fix the bug?

Or is it an issue with the update as a whole

[pseudo lake]

not ever loading in the sewers should not cause any problems

[solid relic]

Yeah just when you land on sewers. Keep it off for now till patch ❤️

❤️

[obtuse mulch]

Gotcha! Right now I’m just trying to figure out what mods I’m good to update in my modpack lol

/incompatibilities

[tropic fog]

Sewers came out?

[obtuse mulch]

Yep, but isn’t the most stable

[tropic fog]

What’s up with it?

[obtuse mulch]

The above flooding issue

[nova lake]

Is it just after you land once that the flooding happens

Like if you go to sewers flooding happens on all maps afterwards

[solid relic]

For me it was once I landed and entered the dungeon, and left the moon.

then went back to another moon.

Then it created the plane again.

Interesting fact too, if using OopsAllFlooded, you end up with 2 water planes - I didn't even know this was possible for the game 😛

@nova lake

[nova lake]

Technically when using oopsallflooded it uses 2 separate water planes for surface and dungeon

[merry tapir]

Oh, so I should just turn off sewers altogether? I just had it set to extremely low weight

[sand pumice]

For now probably yes, until scoopy fixes the water plane not despawning bug

(Idk if that’s what it’s called lol :) )

[slow hemlock]

@nova lake whats this not despawning bug

[sand pumice]

EY I am not completely sure that’s the correct way to refer to it 😆

[west gull]

Yeah that’s kinda funky

[mental jungle]

so the flooded issue is only with oops flooded mod?

[west gull]

Afaik

Went to the interior once to test

[mental jungle]

ok thx

my biggest issue with the interior is that u cant bring 2 handed scrap

[kindred grove]

nope

without too

[mental jungle]

oh snap

[solid relic]

What @kindred grove said, I was just talking about having 2 water planes existing at same time 😛

[mental jungle]

damn hopefully it gets fixed soon

[pseudo lake]

dw its normally getting fixed next upd

[kindred grove]

what i like about the sewer map that you can't easily drag heavy scrap through the main entrance

you have to find fire exit first

that's fun twist

[pseudo lake]

yea add the mimics mod to that and it gives challenge for moons with higher rarity scraps

[kindred grove]

i'm not sure if mimics mod can work on custom dungeons at all

i think it isn't

[pseudo lake]

sad

if it would it'd be sick

[slow hemlock]

soon

[timber basin]

Apparently there's some stuff being worked on for mimic compatibility

[slow hemlock]

lmaoo the way you say apparently your ass does not believe this is gonna work out 😭

[solid relic]

https://tenor.com/view/apparently-kid-live-livetv-gif-25283994

[timber basin]

I'm rooting for it, just that fire exits are completely un-standardised

From custom models to specific rooms like SDM

[slow hemlock]

My initial idea is to provide a way to reference your door prefab in your extendedungeonflow and an animator component on it, then mimic mod can tell that animator to run and it's on you to make a little/jank/polished animation to "open it"

[merry tapir]

Honestly the idea of a mimic door in the dungeon layout could be SOOOO creepy

[timber basin]

Ahk, so still needs the dungeon creators' input

[slow hemlock]

yeahh mimic mod would just have a generic/event like way of calling for it to react

since the main asset related thing mimic mod does is open the door

[timber basin]

Though the exit door in SCP has no back so that'll be interesting to work around

[slow hemlock]

domain expansion: black material plane

[nova lake]

Idk I haven't looked yet because work but it looks like the flood weather I spawn isn't being removed when the scene unloads

[slow hemlock]

your prob spawning it in the wrong scene

[mental jungle]

im pretty sure they can

they were able to for me

on the dungeon

on atlas abyss

[kindred grove]

is there custom dungeon on atlas abyss?

[mental jungle]

no

I used scoopy dungeon mod with it

fits perfectly

[kindred grove]

but in castle dungeon there's no classic fire exits?

only with blue torches

[dire harbor]

you can still go through it and it works fine

[dire harbor]

You sure? I've never seen that

would be pretty cool if it did

[mental jungle]

yes im sure

there were a bunhc

[heady wharf]

Any major issues with the new sewer dungeon yet? Suggestions for best moon to pair with?

[kindred grove]

yes, sometimes it floods other maps with water as you take off, including ship in orbit and company building

[heady wharf]

mmk, will disable until future update, need a good moon to pair it with still anyway

[kindred grove]

i just mix everything into free moons with spawn rate ~50

for diversity

and using scp and scarlet dungeons for paid moons

[heady wharf]

I'm more of a 100% spawn chance, 1 interior for each moon

[kindred grove]

it's not %, it's weight

[heady wharf]

exception being scarlet on dine/rend/titan

it can be 100% if set guaranteed to one specific moon

Egypt has it's own dungeon in the works, after that scoopys castle will be the atlas abyss exclusive

[south bluff]

Aquatis by sefDesat fits kinda well but main entrance room in interior doesnt really make sence

[heady wharf]

Was also thinking the amongus map since the entrances are sewer related sortof

[south bluff]

entrances look like sewer hatches

[sand pumice]

Try Hydro in the GenericMoons moon mod

I think it fits

[pseudo lake]

idk why but i feel like using the sewers on etern

[dire harbor]

I think Acidir also fits, like you're below the mansion on that map

[sand pumice]

is acidir working for you right now?

I get massive lag spikes when both loading in and when just walking around

[dire harbor]

I haven't tried on the latest version, but it was working last I checked

I heard the dev added more detail since then (& fireflies maybe?)

[sand pumice]

yeah, but its not working right now :/

like at all

which is a shame because thats kinda one of my favorites

[solid relic]

@sand pumice What's wrong with Acidir?

[sand pumice]

its laggy as shmick for me right now, not for you?

[solid relic]

Gonna find out now, haven't played any AC today only been back and fore mods 😛

When you say laggy do you mean fps or other?

[Vanilla] Frames do tank when first entering for me, drops down to as low as 30 for like 2 seconds nearly. Overall the frames most part are steady but there is definitely dips going on there and then.

Will try with mods now.

[dire harbor]

I'll also try, once with TheMostLethalCompany + my moons modpack and once with HDLethalCompany on top of those

[solid relic]

had to change fps counter to persistent due to custom UI

So there's deffo a fps difference with mods included, especially if more enemies are spawning etc along with events. Also the load time for it actually pauses for a second for me. Still averaging around 110-130 fps mark. So like 50fps drop and a 2 second freeze when loading into it.

[dire harbor]

I'm getting 25fps before going in, 15fps on the way back

My modpack is pretty large, but this is noticeably laggier than on other planets

anyways this discussion should probably go in https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1195358449534505080

[sand pumice]

I've already mentioned it :/ but yeah its bad...

right sorry

[tropic fog]

its sick yea, only prob i experienced i think is that items can spawn in the death pits

[nova lake]

ohhh interesting, i'll fix this

[tropic fog]

yea ill try to get you a pic, only noticed due to the fact the lategame upgrades let you can a bit further

scan*

thats so messed up lol.

these guys tend to just spin by the walls

hey, do you think you'll add more sewer room variety as well in the future? so far alot of my time in this new interior has been primarily running around the open rooms and pipe crawling

ik its a sewer lol but, i can see potential for rooms with ladders that go downwards for example
mods good as is though, just some ideas

[atomic light]

jester got stuck on most of the props especially the one that is near a wall

[nova lake]

can you please post your modlist

or anyone else whos had this issue

i cant recreate it on my end

or is there a specific process you followed to recreate this

[sleek sun]

Has anyone noticed low spawn rates for enemies in modded interiors recently?

[nova lake]

can you please post your modlist/steps you followed to cause this?

[feral oracle]

I had the same issue too, do you want like a screenshot or a list on discord? All I did was enter the interior, walk around for a bit and then left as I was just testing before playing with others tomorrow

[nova lake]

whatever is easier

wait so the sewer interior itself was fully flooded?

[feral oracle]

the interior was fine, looked normal. though after I left (the moon and went into orbit) my ship became flooded for no reason and then I went to company and it ended up flooded like the screenshot mentioned ealier

the only fix I did was restarting the game

[nova lake]

gotcha

yeah modlist would be huge

[feral oracle]

BepInExPack v5.4.2100 by BepInEx
MoreCompany v1.7.6 by notnotnotswipez
FlashlightToggle v1.5.0 by Renegades
LethalCompanyDRP v1.3.6 by Giltong
SpectateEnemies v2.2.1 by AllToasters
HDLethalCompany v1.5.6 by Sligili
HookGenPatcher v0.0.5 by Evaisa
LethalLib v0.14.2 by Evaisa
ShipLoot v1.0.0 by tinyhoot
LethalCompany_InputUtils v0.6.1 by Rune580
Symbiosis v1.0.5 by NiceHairs
MoreItems v1.0.2 by Drakorle
LethalThings v0.9.4 by Evaisa
NuclearLib v1.0.4 by NiceHairs
TooManyEmotes v1.8.5 by FlipMods
LethalExpansion v1.3.25 by HolographicWings
Scoopys_Variety_Mod v1.0.0 by scoopy
LethalLevelLoader v1.0.7 by IAmBatby
Kast v1.0.3 by Ceelery
E_Gypt_Moon v2.0.13 by KayNetsua
LethalExpansionCore v1.3.15 by jockie
Infernis v1.5.2 by Magic_Wesley
Acidir v2.0.0 by Magic_Wesley
Etern v1.3.4 by Magic_Wesley
ExpansionAssets v1.0.0 by sfDesat
Aquatis v1.1.0 by sfDesat
Orion v1.2.3 by sfDesat
MoreInteriors v1.3.0 by Major_And_Skiz
Atlas_Abyss v1.1.6 by Zingar
SavageCompany v1.1.3 by DerplingDevelopments
Generic_Moons v4.0.0 by Generic_GMD
OdinSerializer v2022.11.9 by Lordfirespeed
LethalNetworkAPI v2.1.1 by xilophor
LC_Office v0.2.0
LCBetterSaves v1.7.3 by Pooble
StarlancerMoons v0.3.1 by AudioKnight
WeatherMultipliers v1.1.0 by Blorb
Celest v0.2.1 by sfDesat

oh jesus christ LMAO

do you want it DM'd to you instead

[nova lake]

i dont mind

i wonder if lethalexpansion is breaking shit again lol

[wise sigil]

my groups having a bug where both the castle and sewer spawn and half of us get stuck in sewer and the rest are in castle the players in sewers fall through the map lots

[nova lake]

that may be caused by configs or mod version not matching

[deep moss]

Uh....Major bug. When ever you get the sewer map, every single moon (including the company building) become flooded with water that ends at the ship's floor level.

[nova lake]

modlist pls

[deep moss]

sent to dms

[coarse plinth]

Using LE core the flooding is a thing, in case you wondered if there was a difference between LE & LE Core

[dire harbor]

@nova lake people have this error with TheMostLethalCompany modpack on the latest version

Which doesn't have LethalExpansion

If you can't recreate with that modpack try the dreaded update all button with the pack

[coarse plinth]

Neither LE or LE Core?

[dire harbor]

Neither

[coarse plinth]

That's good info for Scoopy then i guess since they were guessing about LE messing up

[dire harbor]

One person I saw had clicked Update All, the other only updated MoreInteriors

[coarse plinth]

Also you should be adding Lethal Expansion Core mod, as Orion & Aquatis modder SfDesat set them as dependency

Maybe save you from couple headaches in the future regrding the moons & custom interiors

[feral oracle]

is that not LethalExpansionCore?

or is that something else

[coarse plinth]

Lethal Expansion Core override Lethal Expansion, it's "another" mod

[feral oracle]

oh well, I have both not sure if I should or not, I just install whatever thunderstore tells me too

if it asks for dependecies I just install it

[coarse plinth]

No problem if you have both it's good, LECore automatically override just make sure you have them both

My eyes skipped it, sorry

[normal quest]

Just ran a playthrough - friend had a nutcracker spawn in the wall and kill them. Also, some of the tiles seams can be seen

[crimson pilot]

this also happens with the dungeon interior

mainly the floors

the seams

[nova lake]

i tried with your modpack and couldnt recreate the issue

i loaded into sewer interior, left, went to other moons but the flood plane did not stay

very weird

[feral oracle]

its not loading into flooded moons

its loading into the sewer interior

and then everything else after that becomes flooded

its not an issue with the flooded weather itself

[nova lake]

sorry meant sewer interior

[feral oracle]

o lol

[deep moss]

Indeed

[coarse plinth]

The flooded happened to me without even entering a single time inside the sewer though

And entering and exiting sewers isn't removing the flood you can imagine

[fresh star]

The sewers causes map to flood even after leaving and then coming back

[coarse plinth]

Yes that is a known issue

Been worked on

[nova lake]

can i grab your modlist

i have yet to recreate this issue once myself

[fresh star]

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[nova lake]

and can you explain exactly the steps you took

[deep moss]

Seemingly just...that

just leaving

[fresh star]

So I loaded into a modded moon and turned out to be a sewer. (I forgot to set rarity in the config)

And so when me and my friend died, the ship left and we returned to the moon

Only to see a layer of water almost reaching our necks

I set the moon to the Telamon moon

And so we left again after getting loot and returned to see the water still there

[nova lake]

this may seem unrelated but was the moon the sewer spawned on the first planet you visited

in that session

[fresh star]

Yes

[feral oracle]

oh I should drop this too 018d5941-71a1-bf10-44a5-14088cc702b7

[nova lake]

okay i got it happening consistently, working on a fix now

looks like its not due to conflict i got it on my nearly vanilla save

[coarse plinth]

I was about to told you that i have it every time I land then exit moons, then land again, but only when the dungeon interior is not forced

Like SewerDungeonGuarateen is on false, i manage to get it, but when i set it to true, i don't get it

But glad you managed to got it yourself

[fresh star]

Wonder what the problem was? Was it due to not unloading the water on exiting, thus causing it to cause the water to move up to ground level when the map is loaded back in?

[nova lake]

more or less

should be fixed now

ill push the patch soon

also fixes turrets shooting through and enemies walking through doors

hopefully

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/scoopy/Scoopys_Variety_Mod/ patch is up

if the flooding issue persists please let me know, however this should sort it

[coarse plinth]

Testing it out right now i'll be spamming landing and obiting to find out

4 days of landing and no flood, seems fixed for me ✌️ i'll keep doing it just in case

[near rivet]

oh nice

dude I was just going through a vod to lyk about it tbh I dont know what caused it but tbh I really hope all the time you guys are modding, you're able to get some games in

[coarse plinth]

No issues, tried to spam vanilla moons & modded moons with sewers, tried to change maps mixing vanilla & sewers interior, nothing to report

I also tried to go on already flooded weather moons with sewers interior, it's all fine

[solid relic]

I test stuff standalone (Whatever is included in dependency) and VS other mods. This issue persisted with both. Issue now seems resolved.

[nova lake]

new version is out

just some lighting adjustments

sewer section is a bit dimmer, pipes have lights now

[south bluff]

dont have any footage/screenshots but when we ran into coilhead on this interior it couldn't move even if no one was looking at it. it was standing in a big open room kinda like a crossroad

[fervent blaze]

the sewer rats were looking for you

[solid relic]

@nova lake Yeah that's probs one thing I have also noticed when running it a few times, AI pathfinding seems funny 😛 Beautiful dungeon otherwise ❤️

[boreal frigate]

i keep getting

sewer

🫑

😢

[floral bloom]

Egypt, Infernis, Kast, Generic Moons

[solid relic]

oo Infernis would be awesome!

[floral bloom]

Oh I thought they meant like

Good Moons to play on lol

Not for this interior

Egypt would not be fitting for this interior at all lol

[solid relic]

Egyptian Sewer Dwellers confirmed

[boreal frigate]

do i need to tell everyone to update the config?

or i update and stay as host

[woeful pollen]

for now everyone needs the same config or things will break

[dire harbor]

Also Auralis (from Starlancer), Atlas Abyss, Ganimedes, Acidir

[floral bloom]

Star lancer is just rend / dine if they’d were even more empty

Atlas abyss is cool but the area is too small making it kinda aids to deal with dogs

[dire harbor]

The tree cover on either side to hide from giants and the pathway across the lake to a fire exit make it pretty unique imo

For Auralis

[floral bloom]

Acidir is cool

[dire harbor]

Yeah, probably my favorite

[floral bloom]

I may be thinking of a diff moon

There are like 4 snowy late game mooos

Modded

[dire harbor]

Conviction?

Auralis is gorgeous and pretty well done

Conviction is pretty empty and 1300 credits

[floral bloom]

I would like auralis If the map had more to it than basicslly being a straight walk

With the entire thing lit up

[dire harbor]

I think the point of atlas abyss is to kinda be a pain, it's only 300 but has really good loot so it's meant to be punishment for not having enough credits to go to a late game moon while needing the money

[floral bloom]

Yea

[floral bloom]

It has some nice visuals

And some other cool parts about it

[dire harbor]

I always felt like rend and dine were pure suffering with giants

[floral bloom]

Giants just need a complete overhaul

[dire harbor]

So then being oppressive but actually avoidable by side trees on Auralis makes more fun imo

[dire harbor]

Yeah probably

At least lowered visibility in fog

[floral bloom]

Back on the topic of the thread uhh

It’s crazy how many interiors we have now

[dire harbor]

Yeah

Sewer fits perfectly on Hydro from GenericMoons

[floral bloom]

I have 4 interiors that are modded

Thay can show up on free moons

Then one for paid moons

[dire harbor]

Here's what I did

[floral bloom]

Oh yea right your the guy who graphed out all of the stuff

I mean I would do that but it sounds like

AIDS

To maintain

[pseudo lake]

is there smth you use to visualize everything or do you do all manually

[dire harbor]

Google sheets

[pseudo lake]

so you do it manually

[dire harbor]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T2wzTUHbQfy1O8e0B20XglbPA87ZCX6UPG2SY0fp-YE/edit?usp=drivesdk

I have to make all the configs myself anyways

[dire harbor]

You can just rip my configs / copy the sheet if you want lol

It'll format all the values into what you paste into the mod config

[pseudo lake]

im just using a personal server to write everything down personally

[dire harbor]

Nice

[floral bloom]

Wdym

[floral bloom]

Hadal laboratories

[pseudo lake]

i am patiently waiting for hadal

[floral bloom]

Wants it so bad that they are manifesting it

[dire harbor]

Here

If you copied the spreadsheet and put in your own values, you would be able to copy this cell and just paste it into your mod config

[pseudo lake]

time to mod it using PNGs and no functionality whatsoever

[floral bloom]

Like do you mean if I paste my configs into there it will auto update the entire chart?

[pseudo lake]

man

[floral bloom]

L

[pseudo lake]

the game wants me to go to the two worst moons in the game this is the first day

[floral bloom]

I’ve been noticing so much weather recently

I’m not sure if a mod is causing it or if I’m just unlucky

[dire harbor]

Yeah, you'll have to make a copy but it'll auto update the charts and graph

There's one pie chart that shows how frequent an interior is total, one that shows a single moon (which you can cycle through) and one bar chart that shows everything

[floral bloom]

Also one issue I’ve had related to weather is that the start of every run has the same weather on every moon

[floral bloom]

Oh nice I thought you manually had to input everything

[woeful pollen]

weather is tied to how many moons are loaded by the game

[floral bloom]

In what way

[woeful pollen]

your moon number influences the weather seed

[pseudo lake]

wait i just noticed but this brand new save has a start quota of 0 and 0 days left until deadline

[crimson pilot]

erm what the scallop

[dire harbor]

Can confirm

There's a mod called WeatherTweaks that fixes that

And does a few other things

[pseudo lake]

idk i cant start anymore, imma disable the config i just setup everything for and see if that fixes

[floral bloom]

Actual blessing damn